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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:43:51pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:44:52pm

WORST SONG EVER: “I Put Your Picture Away”

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:47:22pm

HA HA

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:48:30pm
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nicdanger  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:48:50pm

re: #2 The Pie Overlord!

WORST SONG EVER: “I Put Your Picture Away”

Isn’t that the one she did with Bob whatisname…I mean kid rock?

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:48:57pm

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

HA HA

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Has shades of Election Night 2012 at the Romney HQ. I wonder if the campaign staff will likewise find themselves unable to get home because their campaign credit cards have suddenly been deactivated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:49:40pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:50:07pm

re: #5 nicdanger

Isn’t that the one she did with Bob whatisname…I mean kid rock?

Yeah

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:52:42pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The deeper Leandowski dug himself, the more frantic the Repubs got in trying to defend him, until they finally just got up and left in a huff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:53:15pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:54:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:55:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:57:10pm

Netanyahu just might try to seize power despite the election, knowing that Trump would support him. This might be bad. I hope not.

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:57:33pm

And now we get our preview of Election Night 2020, as the wannabe dictator desperately tries to cling to power in defiance of the law in order to avoid the consequences of his criminal acts.

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2019 • 5:59:30pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick will have to be forcibly removed from the White House in a straitjacket, he’ll never concede defeat in an election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:02:41pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:03:04pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:03:05pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Fuckface Von Clownstick will have to be forcibly removed from the White House in a straitjacket, he’ll never concede defeat in an election.

He won’t concede, but will instead accuse the media of broadcasting “fake” results while he insists the DOJ will be investigating every state he lost to get the “real” results. As well as suing in the courts to prevent the vote totals from being certified. And, towards the end, imploring the Congressional Repubs to save his ass by taking whatever steps necessary to prevent the election results from being certified.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:03:55pm

I know I do not remember the whole quote from Downton Abbey. The scene is where Violet Crowley is having a chat with Mrs Grey regarding her new father-in-law. At the end of the chat Violet says to Mrs Grey something on the lines of they will drag you out with your finger nails catching at the door casings. I know it is episode 7 of the final season.

That is how I see DT leaving the WH.

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Skip Intro  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:05:46pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

And now we get our preview of Election Night 2020, as the wannabe dictator desperately tries to cling to power in defiance of the law in order to avoid the consequences of his criminal acts.

The law has never troubled him before.

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Skip Intro  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:06:23pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

That’s exactly what he’s going to do if he loses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:06:38pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:08:15pm

Then there are some who say Fuckface Von Clownstick won’t even make it to Election Day due to his dementia. Hell, even The Mooch says he doesn’t make it to March.

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b.d.  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:08:38pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Baton Rouge Alabama?

I guess we just change all the state’s names to Alabama when a bad storm hits them now.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:09:07pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

Maybe that is what Nancy Pelosi is waiting for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:09:33pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:09:45pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

See, Trump was right!! /s

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:09:57pm

re: #24 b.d.

It looks like a typo to me. We all make them.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:10:42pm

Just fascinating

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:11:03pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Fuckface Von Clownstick will have to be forcibly removed from the White House in a straitjacket, he’ll never concede defeat in an election.

Sounds good to me.

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Skip Intro  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:13:56pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

When Facebook is the only functioning law enforcer you know we’re in deep crap.

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Skip Intro  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:14:45pm

re: #25 PhillyPretzel

Maybe that is what Nancy Pelosi is waiting for.

That’s just not going to happen.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:15:25pm

re: #31 Skip Intro

When Facebook is the only functioning law enforcer you know we’re in deep crap.

Netanyahu is outside our jurisdiction, actually.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:15:53pm

re: #32 Skip Intro

I know that.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:15:53pm

From the previous thread:

re: #223 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, Netanyahu may be losing the election, badly.

Someone on Daily Kos argued that, rather than the rise of fascists everywhere, we could be seeing the last gasps of this time period’s old guard clinging to power. They used Italy as an example, and Netanyahu losing would add to that. It won’t be easy to bring them all down, but it’s not impossible.

dailykos.com

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Skip Intro  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:19:23pm

re: #33 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Apparently not of Facebook’s.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:23:51pm

re: #36 Skip Intro

Apparently not of Facebook’s.

If you think a facebook suspension is law enforcement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:24:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:25:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:26:10pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:27:20pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Again, our preview of 2020, where Trump screams that the results can’t be legitimate unless it can be proven that every vote came from a “legal” American.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:27:40pm
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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:30:03pm

re: #41 Targetpractice

Again, our preview of 2020, where Trump screams that the results can’t be legitimate unless it can be proven that every vote came from a “legal” American.

And a preview for 2020 will be how the people react to it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:30:04pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:31:58pm
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BigPapa  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:32:55pm

bowl of dicks

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:33:30pm
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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:34:50pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:35:19pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:37:22pm

Nevermind, @RudePundit is OK but he had to delete one post.

VB was never offered that option.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:37:58pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:38:17pm

re: #50 The Pie Overlord!

First VB, now RudePundit

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@jack doesn’t like anyone who slanders his right wing bosom buddies!

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:39:18pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Likely on the promise from Donny that if he didn’t make a fuss, the money would just be “put back” in the following DoD budget request.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:41:20pm

re: #50 The Pie Overlord!

Saw this on his feed:

Gone
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Skip Intro  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:42:26pm

re: #37 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

When there is no law enforcement you take what you can get.

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:42:35pm

re: #49 The Pie Overlord!

When I saw her in Aurora, CO in April it took about an hour for me to get some pictures with her, probably two hours total to get everyone in line (and she makes good on that, *everyone* in line gets a photo).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:43:03pm
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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:43:29pm

re: #46 BigPapa

I wonder who it’s for…

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BigPapa  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:45:16pm

re: #58 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

I wonder who it’s for…

Obviously not me.

Likely, not me.

Hopefully… not me.

Better not be for me.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:46:49pm

To get straight to the point……

Facebook Post

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:46:49pm

re: #57 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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LIz continues to slowly eat into Joe’s lead, now got him down to a single digit lead.

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retired cynic  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:47:40pm

re: #57 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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WTF that Yang is 4% and Booker is 2%? That’s nutz.

Edit for typo!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:49:22pm

This is a serious forum so I’m trying to cut back on cute animal pics, but I just can’t resist this one.

Facebook Post

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:49:38pm

re: #62 retired cynic

WHT that Yang is 4% and Booker is 2%? That’s nutz.

If you listen to policy discussions, you hear about Yang’s universal income idea, and almost nothing about Booker.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:50:27pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Netanyahu just might try to seize power despite the election, knowing that Trump would support him. This might be bad. I hope not.

I don’t think Isrealis will put up with it. I really don’t.

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retired cynic  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:50:39pm

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is a serious forum so I’m trying to cut back on cute animal pics, but I just can’t resist this one.

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A baby snapping turtle showed up in my yard today, a long way from any kind of water, and looking pretty dry. We put him in a dish with water and a rock, and he made himself to home.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:50:53pm

Things You Will Never Hear Trump Say for $500, Alex:

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:51:00pm

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is a serious forum

Pull my finger.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:51:22pm

re: #57 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I’m curious what those breakdowns looked like at this point in time in 2007. Early on, Clinton was leading Obama among blacks.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:52:54pm

re: #68 teleskiguy

Pull my finger.

We’ve already had a post about explosions raining cow semen, and related band names, so I’m not sure we’re anywhere close to serious.

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BigPapa  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:53:21pm

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Those are the Cutest Murder Mouses I’ve ever seen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:53:31pm
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plansbandc  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:53:56pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

That is one of the cutest pics evah.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:54:23pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2019 • 6:57:56pm

They are so good. So good.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:00:06pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:01:32pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Maybe for the march and rally against gun violence. Otherwise no.

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retired cynic  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:03:18pm

The Museum of the Moon: An Illuminated 23-Foot Lunar Replica Currently Touring the World, on This Is Collosal.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:04:06pm

re: #77 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Maybe for the march and rally against gun violence. Otherwise no.

I would think a red sweatshirt, with all the schools listed in order, would be more effective

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:05:09pm
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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:05:43pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I would think a red sweatshirt, with all the schools listed in order, would be more effective

Sounds good to me.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:07:14pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I would think a red sweatshirt, with all the schools listed in order, would be more effective

And follow them with a few underlines with nothing on them.

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MsJ  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:10:09pm

re: #46 BigPapa

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uriel  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:13:44pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

He won’t concede, but will instead accuse the media of broadcasting “fake” results while he insists the DOJ will be investigating every state he lost to get the “real” results. As well as suing in the courts to prevent the vote totals from being certified. And, towards the end, imploring the Congressional Repubs to save his ass by taking whatever steps necessary to prevent the election results from being certified.

I really don’t see how the people who seem to think the secret service will haul him out of the West Wing if he decides to stay can’t get this. He’s not going to do a scarface in the Oval Office with an AR and a bunch of powdered adderall.

He’s going to de-legitimize the results, tie things up in the courts, and send his “acting” flying monkeys out to muddy the waters by abusing their offices. All the while telling the public that we can’t make any rash decisions until ‘all the facts are in.’ He’ll take it to the supreme court, he’ll pull in the senate, house, and friendly governors. He’ll appoint committees headed up by people like Chris Kobach and Ken Cuccinelli to ‘get to the bottom of things.’

And he’ll keep doing that, until ‘all the facts’ can be massaged in such a way that the confusion and mistrust he and his have sown convinces enough of the public that, well, maybe he does have a point.

If he can get things there, he wins.

It’s not going to be a showdown, guns blazing. It’s going to be death by pool noodle- long, drawn out, and stupid.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:14:22pm

The Onion:

Religious Conservatives Argue Adam And Eve Would Never Have Been Banished From Eden If They’d Had Guns

HOUSTON—In what they described as scriptural evidence of the right to bear arms, leading figures among the religious right gathered Wednesday to issue a statement arguing that Adam and Eve would never have been banished from the Garden of Eden if they had owned guns. “Just imagine: If Adam and Eve had carried firearms and stood their ground against God, they would have been able to eat the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge in peace, and He could never have forced them to leave paradise,” said Pastor Hugh Peters of Houston’s Second Baptist Church, explaining how the entire course of human history would have been altered for the better if the first man and woman had taken the simple precaution of keeping a semiautomatic weapon at the ready for use during emergencies.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:15:21pm

How nice of Bibi be the test case for a fascist takeover here in America. He’s sending signals to Trump to try the exact thing here next year. Save these quotes. Trump will be repeating them.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:17:03pm

re: #84 uriel

I really don’t see how the people who seem to think the secret service will haul him out of the West Wing if he decides to stay can’t get this. He’s not going to do a scarface in the Oval Office with an AR and a bunch of powdered adderall.

He’s going to de-legitimize the results, tie things up in the courts, and send his “acting” flying monkeys out to muddy the waters by abusing their offices. All the while telling the public that we can’t make any rash decisions until ‘all the facts are in.’ He’ll take it to the supreme court, he’ll pull in the senate and house, he’ll appoint committees headed up by people like Chris Kobach and Ken Cuccinelli to ‘get to the bottom of things.’

And he’ll keep doing that, until ‘all the facts’ can be massaged in such a way that the confusion and mistrust he and his have sown convinces enough of the public that, well, maybe he does have a point.

If he can get things there, he wins.

It’s not going to be a showdown, guns blazing. It’s going to be death by pool noodle- long, drawn out, and stupid.

Your assumption is that he’s not going to have a successor after the election. He won’t be the only person there. The person who beats him will still be the elected president. That person will have not only the backing of the majority of the electorate, but the actual constitution that even people like those I work with expect to be paid a little respect to.

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retired cynic  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:18:53pm

re: #87 Belafon

Your assumption is that he’s not going to have a successor after the election. He won’t be the only person there. The person who beats him will still be the elected president. That person will have not only the backing of the majority of the electorate, but the actual constitution that even people like those I work with expect to be paid a little respect to.

I still agree that he will try it. Chaos has always worked for him before. He lives there.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:20:02pm

re: #88 retired cynic

I still agree that he will try it. Chaos has always worked for him before. He lives there.

I’m not saying he won’t try it. I’m just saying Trump doesn’t exist in a vacuum (though that might be a worthy experiment, a vacuum).

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:20:08pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:21:26pm
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Belafon  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:23:00pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

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If only those damn superdelegates would stay out of things.

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:23:07pm

I told Elizabeth a joke.

What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?

Make me one with everything.

“That’s really funny!” she told me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:25:02pm

My name is Greta Thunberg.

I have not come to offer prepared remarks at this hearing

I am instead attaching my testimony. It is the IPCC Special Report on Global Warming of 1.5°C[SR1.5] which was released on October 8, 2018.

I am submitting this report as my testimony because I don’t want you to listen to me. I want youto listen to the scientists. And I want you to unite behind the science.

And then I want you to take action.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:33:50pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:35:47pm

And here’s me, screaming at a wall.

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retired cynic  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:36:50pm

re: #95 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is SO INSANE!

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:37:30pm

I wish Tom Steyer would pay attention to this instead of dumping money into broadcast ads.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:39:18pm

re: #96 teleskiguy

Late stage entertainment: shit out worse versions of safe IP.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:41:24pm

re: #99 The Ghost of a Flea

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Late stage entertainment: shit out worse versions of safe IP.

Go all the way and post a picture of a Francis Bacon painting!

francis-bacon.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:42:42pm

re: #99 The Ghost of a Flea

Hieronymus Bosch portrayed Twitter very accurately, considering it was 500 years ahead of his time.

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uriel  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:43:52pm
Your assumption is that he’s not going to have a successor after the election.

No, I aware of that- but that successor will have very few institutional, financial or legal resources to fight back against the (still sitting, for several months) potus, if he decides to go that route.

I may be wrong.

On the other hand, I know Clinton had a successor- but I’m still not entirely sure it was the guy who took the oath. All that took was some well dressed rioters and a willing supreme court.

And I’m pretty sure Trump will, at a minimum, have those too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:44:02pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:44:05pm

re: #96 teleskiguy

This got retweeted by someone with 83,000 followers. My menshies are goin’ crazy, man!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:46:43pm

No. No. No.

Cousin’s church is going to exclusively serve Trump wine for communion…

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:46:52pm

re: #99 The Ghost of a Flea

Dude, I love you, man.

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retired cynic  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:47:11pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

This got retweeted by someone with 83,000 followers. My menshies are goin’ crazy, man!

Who would replace Andre the Giant? Who would play Inigo Montoya? Who would play the marrying priest, or replace Billy Crystal, or….

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:53:41pm

Jesus

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:55:50pm
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sagehen  Sep 17, 2019 • 7:59:58pm

re: #74 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Let me guess — after they pay the grand they get their appeal… and then are turned down again.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:01:28pm

re: #109 Patricia Kayden

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calochortus  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:09:02pm

We survived the Trump-thing being in the area for the first part of the afternoon by going to my daughter’s house to spend some quality time with her and our granddaughter. We luckily were able to get out of our neighborhood without too much trouble as we left after Trump got to his destination and we were going the other way.

I have never seen so many cops hanging out at intersections and side streets, and a bunch at the freeway interchange. Clinton used to come to Portola Valley, Obama came once. Neither occasioned more than a couple highway patrol hanging out at the freeway interchange (and whatever security escort was on the job.)

Our neighborhood listserve was crammed with people saying they had been stuck for an hour not allowed on the main road through town (there is no other way to get to our neighborhood.) The early school bus had to turn back. It was a mess. Fortunately, by the time we came home it was all over. I would have enjoyed seeing the Baby Trump Blimp, but spending time with the aforementioned daughter/granddaughter was better.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:11:47pm

Super, super, super cool.

The smart money says one or more firms got caught with their pants down by the Saudi refinery attack and everyone smells blood in the water.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:12:23pm

We made it to Amarillo. There was a terrible accident on Route 66, then the hippie scavengers descended.

(Stock shot—will post ours when we get a decent connection.)
en.wikipedia.org

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Dread Pirate  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:20:46pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:23:10pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:35:37pm

Deep cut

Bruce Springsteen - Ramrod

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:39:41pm

re: #112 calochortus

I got caught in fucking Trumptraffic today. Close to two hours to get from Pico & Bundy to 6th & LaBrea.

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calochortus  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:40:30pm

re: #118 Jebediah, RBG

I got caught in fucking Trumptraffic today. Close to two hours to get from Pico & Bundy to 6th & LaBrea.

My condolences.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:43:57pm
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SteelPH  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:44:44pm

re: #116 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m so glad there’s none of them pesky regulations.
//

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:47:02pm

TRUMP WORRIED UNSIGHTLY HOMELESS ARE HURTING PROPERTY VALUES

According to the president, wealthy foreigners are livid about what the homeless are doing to their investments.
During a speech at a Republican conference in Baltimore last week—a city that Trump has described as “a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess” where “no human being” would “want to live”—the president said that he had put California on “notice” to “clean it up,” adding, “These are our great American cities and they’re an embarrassment.” The president has also called the homeless situation in San Francisco “inappropriate” and the city “disgusting,” because his empathy runs deep.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:53:31pm

Californians, Los Angelenos believe in law and order. Peace. Ethics. Morality. Hence a certain controversial President left unscathed, other than his rather questionable pride.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:55:04pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:57:02pm
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sagehen  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:57:05pm

re: #124 Dread Pirate

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Do we know if it was an accident?

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BigPapa  Sep 17, 2019 • 8:59:57pm

re: #124 Dread Pirate

So begins the Antifa Accords

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danarchy  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:01:51pm

re: #123 Rightwingconspirator

Californians, Los Angelenos believe in law and order. Peace. Ethics. Morality. Hence a certain controversial President left unscathed, other than his rather questionable pride.

And unfortunately with an extra 15 million dollars or so in his war chest.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:02:13pm

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

TRUMP WORRIED UNSIGHTLY HOMELESS ARE HURTING PROPERTY VALUES

Fuck him. I could take a photo of an unconscious homeless man in the doorway of studio/ single bedroom condos that cost 5 to 8 weeks on California minimum hourly wages per month. On Broadway, 90014.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:02:22pm

Chad

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:03:47pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:04:40pm

re: #129 Rightwingconspirator

I could show him the same in Philly.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:13:12pm

re: #3 The Pie Overlord!

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:15:39pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:23:31pm

Deep dive into personal archives:

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Dread Pirate  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:30:57pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:33:42pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:41:51pm

There was a labor summit in Philly on Tuesday that featured six of the Democratic candidates.
whyy.org

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:43:10pm

OK Dr Who fans!

Here’s a clip of Two Doctors meeting each other…before they became Doctor #1 and Doctor #3…

Will Any Gentlemen?

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austin_blue  Sep 17, 2019 • 9:50:53pm

re: #136 Dread Pirate

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So they are finally replacing the Dirty White Rocket, the T-38, which I trained in in…1979.

And it was old then.

Fun plane to fly, it has wings like knife blades. At around 280 knots, it has a 0 degree angle of attack, which means all of the lift generated by the plane to keep it in the air is generated by the shape of the body, not the wings. You didn’t really do loops, you did high-angle climbs and dives. It is an absolute supersonic telephone pole.

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austin_blue  Sep 17, 2019 • 10:00:29pm

Oh, and we may finally get some rain this week thanks to a pissant tropical storm that magically appeared this morning just south of Galveston (Oh, Galveston! Thank you, Jimmy Webb, the best songwriter you have probably never heard of).

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 17, 2019 • 10:06:16pm
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austin_blue  Sep 17, 2019 • 10:20:59pm

re: #142 goddamnedfrank

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Well, that’s…sacrilegious, isn’t it?

By the way I’ve got a question about Israeli election law:

What does the 3.5% threshold mean? If the party as a whole does not meet the threshold, does it mean that individual candidates who win a given district and get the most votes can’t be seated and the next candidate down-ballot whose party met the 3.5% gets the seat?

Enquiring minds, etc.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 17, 2019 • 10:28:26pm

re: #143 austin_blue

Well, that’s…sacrilegious, isn’t it?

By the way I’ve got a question about Israeli election law:

What does the 3.5% threshold mean? If the party as a whole does not meet the threshold, does it mean that individual candidates who win a given district and get the most votes can’t be seated and the next candidate down-ballot whose party met the 3.5% gets the seat?

Enquiring minds, etc.

Ranked choice voting would address this by divvying up the votes of the candidate whose party failed to qualify, but really I have no clue.

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austin_blue  Sep 17, 2019 • 10:37:39pm

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

Ranked choice voting would address this by divvying up the votes of the candidate whose party failed to qualify, but really I have no clue.

Dang. Anybody else have a clue?

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austin_blue  Sep 17, 2019 • 10:54:21pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Deep dive into personal archives:

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I was in Mildenhall in 1982 when we were picking up the RAF NATO refueling duties while they were in the Falklands. Six weeks in the bleak moors of East Anglia. Met Randy Andy, prince of the realm, (an absolute twit), in the Officers Club. Got put up in a TrustHouse Forte hotel in Newmarket because there was no room on base. My naviguesser asked me about the bidet in his room. When I told him what it was, he just looked stricken and walked away. Americans, what can you do?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 17, 2019 • 11:02:18pm

Ah, the party of family values:

A Pennsylvania state lawmaker is facing child pornography possession charges after authorities say a social media website told them the user had uploaded an image using their service.

The state attorney general’s office said Sen. Mike Folmer was arrested and charged Tuesday night. Investigators allegedly found images of child pornography on Folmer’s cell phone when they executed a search warrant at his house in Lebanon County.

The investigation began as a result of a CyberTip reporting that an electronic service provider, Tumblr, discovered that a user had uploaded an image of child pornography using their application.

A message left at Folmer’s listed home telephone number wasn’t immediately returned and it wasn’t immediately clear if he has a lawyer.

The 63-year-old Republican was elected to a fourth term in November. Long considered one of the chamber’s most conservative members, Folmer was crucial to helping swing Republican votes behind a bill to legalize medical marijuana in 2016.

wfmz.com

Another Republican bites the dust.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 17, 2019 • 11:03:49pm
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austin_blue  Sep 17, 2019 • 11:08:45pm

Well I turned into a pumpkin an hour ago. Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 17, 2019 • 11:24:53pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 17, 2019 • 11:38:18pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 12:15:41am

re: #85 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Onion:

Religious Conservatives Argue Adam And Eve Would Never Have Been Banished From Eden If They’d Had Guns

And Jesus would not have been crucified if he and his disciples had been properly armed!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 12:18:01am

re: #96 teleskiguy

Sony Pictures Entertainment CEO Tony Vinciquerra says that “very famous people whose names I won’t use” want to redo Norman Lear’s ‘The Princess Bride’

Like covering a Beatles’ song…you can do a lame-ass shadow-of-its-former-self version or you cam - if you are truly talented - do a completely different version that lives on its own strengths like Joe Cocker’s Little Help from my Friends

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 12:19:56am

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

Super, super, super cool.

The smart money says one or more firms got caught with their pants down by the Saudi refinery attack and everyone smells blood in the water.

They all have their pants around their ankles, they have just mutually agreed to let that be Business as Usual

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 12:22:07am

re: #137 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Am I nuts, or is it weird for the 27-year-old Russian Federation to use the Nazi-sanctioned Soviet liquidation of Eastern Poland to implicitly defend its latter-day imperialism

They quietly ignored the Hitler-Stalin non-aggression pact that allowed for the division and occupation of Poland.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 18, 2019 • 12:42:00am
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Dread Pirate  Sep 18, 2019 • 12:42:51am
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 18, 2019 • 1:46:17am
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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2019 • 1:54:13am

re: #158 Patricia Kayden

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If Bibi loses, we may witness a Cat 6 shitstorm from 1600 Penn Ave.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2019 • 2:13:14am

In Brexit news, this apparently happened:

Boris Johnson’s nightmare in Luxembourg was more than just a public embarrassment delivered at the hands of the Grand Duchy’s Xavier Bettel.

The FT on Wednesday morning reports on a chastening encounter over lunch between Mr Johnson, Michel Barnier and Jean-Claude Juncker, which one official described as a “penny dropping” moment for the prime minister over what it really means to replace the Irish backstop.

According to an account of the meeting, the prime minister was told by his EU counterparts in no uncertain terms that the UK’s plan to replace the backstop by allowing Northern Ireland to stick to common EU rules on food and livestock (known as SPS) was not enough to prevent customs checks on the vast majority of goods that cross the Irish border.

At that point, a befuddled Mr Johnson turned to David Frost, his chief negotiator, and Stephen Barclay, Brexit secretary, and said: “So you’re telling me the SPS plan doesn’t solve the customs problem?”

The exchange, according to one EU official, was part of an abrupt “learning curve” for Mr Johnson in his first face-to-face meeting with Mr Barnier and Mr Juncker since he took office. Another official describes the prime minister gradually “slumping” in his chair as the reality of the UK’s negotiating position and the limited time left to strike an agreement dawned on him. “He wasn’t used to hearing it”, added the official.

amp.ft.com

JFC.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 18, 2019 • 2:16:58am

Morning all…. My view of the non sleeping world this morning. Quiet deck time is the best time.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 18, 2019 • 2:36:55am

re: #160 Dr Lizardo

Boris is just a better educated clown than Trump. He certainly has Trump’s bluster and ego. I just wish Corbyn would step down and let someone else lead the opposition.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2019 • 2:38:42am

That election in Israel is still neck and neck, with Blue and White still ahead (by a razor-thin margin) of Likud.

It’ll be interesting to see with President Rivlin does; I would imagine that he’d give Gantz a first shot at forming a coalition government, seeing as Blue and White looks to be ahead in Knesset seats….as things stand right now, they’re one seat ahead of Likud.

A real nail-biter.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2019 • 2:40:43am

re: #163 Dr Lizardo

Actually, it looks like Blue and White are tied with Likud at 32 Knesset seats each.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2019 • 2:47:00am

Back in a bit.

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Disloyal Archangel  Sep 18, 2019 • 3:20:43am

Good morning Lizards!

re: #143 austin_blue

By the way I’ve got a question about Israeli election law:

What does the 3.5% threshold mean? If the party as a whole does not meet the threshold, does it mean that individual candidates who win a given district and get the most votes can’t be seated and the next candidate down-ballot whose party met the 3.5% gets the seat?

Enquiring minds, etc.

It doesn’t work like that…
To explain this correctly is to delve into the system in depth.

Explained below (warning, long post - have a painkiller on hand for potential headaches):

Israel has two separate elections - national elections for Prime Minister and Knesset parliament (what we saw yesterday), and local elections for mayors and city/town council seats.
Local elections are fixed dates and take place every 5 years, like clockwork.
National elections are supposed to be every 4 years but can be declared early based on political shenanigans - just about every election since 1999 saw this, with this year being the worst case with two elections in under a year.
There are no “district” elections in Israel.

Here’s where things start getting messy, because this isn’t a winner-takes-all system.

Both elections work the same way - there are NO individual candidates. Eligible voters don’t elect a person for a role, but vote for a party with a literal list of representatives. The lists are the result of a ranked primary election - whoever gets the most internal votes is listed at the top and leads the party. Regardless of whether or not that person later becomes PM or mayor, the list will determine who’s in the Knesset or city council based on the final results.
Note: the list size reflects how much votes/seats a party expects to get at most, not necessarily how much they’ll ACTUALLY get.
For example, if a party’s national list has 20 ranked people and it only wins 10 seats in the end, then the top 10 will make it into the Knesset, while those ranked 11 and beyond go home.

The party that has the highest percentage of total votes in an election is declared the winner and its leader usually takes the relevant top position (mayor or prime minister).
Meanwhile, the Knesset/council seating is distributed according to representation.

In the national election, there number of Knesset seats is fixed - 120 in total, every election - and the number of seats that a party wins is based on the vote percentage distribution. If no party gets a majority of 61 (never happens), then the party with the highest percentage of votes is usually tasked by the President to form a coalition government, and has a month to negotiate with other parties to form such a government.
It is in these negotiations that certain positions are often assigned. One party might agree to join a coalition government if its top military guy will be Defense Minister as part of the negotiations; another if their guy is Health Minister, and so on. (Some parties even run specifically on this premise - “give us enough votes and our guy will be Minister of X in the next coalition government”.)

It’s the national elections are where the 3.25% (not 3.5%) threshold comes into play. If a party doesn’t meet this threshold - which currently represents a minimum of 120,000 votes, 3 parliament seats - then it effectively has its votes tossed to the trash bin. They lose everything, get no governmental position of any kind and their voters won’t be represented in any way.
It’s the same thing every election cycle, and it’s a risk that both the parties and their voters know going in. For a few, it’s a close call, falling short by just a few thousand votes; for others, it’s a lost cause to begin with. This time around, of the 29 parties running for the Knesset (yes, you read that right - twenty nine freaking parties), at least 10 “parties” got just a few thousand votes each. They never had a chance to begin with and folks still wasted their votes on them nonetheless.

Fin.

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steve_davis  Sep 18, 2019 • 3:38:04am

re: #84 uriel

I really don’t see how the people who seem to think the secret service will haul him out of the West Wing if he decides to stay can’t get this. He’s not going to do a scarface in the Oval Office with an AR and a bunch of powdered adderall.

He’s going to de-legitimize the results, tie things up in the courts, and send his “acting” flying monkeys out to muddy the waters by abusing their offices. All the while telling the public that we can’t make any rash decisions until ‘all the facts are in.’ He’ll take it to the supreme court, he’ll pull in the senate, house, and friendly governors. He’ll appoint committees headed up by people like Chris Kobach and Ken Cuccinelli to ‘get to the bottom of things.’

And he’ll keep doing that, until ‘all the facts’ can be massaged in such a way that the confusion and mistrust he and his have sown convinces enough of the public that, well, maybe he does have a point.

If he can get things there, he wins.

It’s not going to be a showdown, guns blazing. It’s going to be death by pool noodle- long, drawn out, and stupid.

he’s welcome to do whatever he wants. the states are going to certify the results. the courts are powerless to prevent that. the framers of the constitution designed it specifically to prevent a wannabee jumped up monarch from taking control. on jan 22 of 2021, the new president will be sworn in, as well as 535 members of congress. they’re not going to be sitting around worrying about trump gumming up the works. netanyahu is a thorn who will likewise be pulled.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 18, 2019 • 4:31:52am

Still recovering from a simultaneous crash of my boot drive and TimeMachine drive. So I had to do a fresh install of MacOS and now slowing putting the pieces together.

I don’t know what happened but both drives are on the same Firewire bus and perhaps there was a surge?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 18, 2019 • 4:48:27am

re: #85 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Onion:

Religious Conservatives Argue Adam And Eve Would Never Have Been Banished From Eden If They’d Had Guns

So breaking the rules is justified if you are better armed? What religion do these fucknuts follow?

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Weaselone  Sep 18, 2019 • 4:51:05am

re: #169 Eventual Carrion

So breaking the rules is justified if you are better armed? What religion do these fucknuts follow?

It’s the Onion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 5:04:14am

re: #143 austin_blue

Well, that’s…sacrilegious, isn’t it?

By the way I’ve got a question about Israeli election law:

What does the 3.5% threshold mean? If the party as a whole does not meet the threshold, does it mean that individual candidates who win a given district and get the most votes can’t be seated and the next candidate down-ballot whose party met the 3.5% gets the seat?

Enquiring minds, etc.

I don’t know about Israel, but in Germany, where they have a 5% threshold, half the seats in Parliament are direct mandates and the rest are apportioned according to each party’s share of the vote, taken from a list that each party presents before the election.

A party can also get in without 5% if it wins three direct mandates.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 5:17:13am

re: #143 austin_blue

Well, that’s…sacrilegious, isn’t it?

By the way I’ve got a question about Israeli election law:

What does the 3.5% threshold mean? If the party as a whole does not meet the threshold, does it mean that individual candidates who win a given district and get the most votes can’t be seated and the next candidate down-ballot whose party met the 3.5% gets the seat?

Enquiring minds, etc.

In a lot of parliamentary systems, you vote for the party, not a candidate, and the party chooses from a set of candidates who to sit. And the seats are given out proportionality, not based on districts. Thus, if I have n seats, a party needs to at least clear 100/n percent, otherwise you would have at least n parties running to claim a seat. And, for governing sake, the threshold probably needs to be higher than 100/n, because a bunch of ine seat parties would still make governing hard.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 18, 2019 • 5:21:34am
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jeffreyw  Sep 18, 2019 • 5:34:29am

Good morning!

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 18, 2019 • 5:53:28am

re: #170 Weaselone

It’s the Onion.

Ahhh, missed that. Must be morning. But it is bad when you can actually imagine one of them saying that.

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Citizen K  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:01:28am

So….our esteemed host tweeted this last night.

….about that….

They learn nothing, because they believe this is the way it should be. The media will always privilege conservatives even when they say outright ‘I will not be telling you anything because I have contempt for you’ and then proceed to lie in their faces. Meanwhile, Dems get treated like inherent monsters and liars from the get go no matter fucking what they do.

This is a fucking miserable timeline.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:09:31am

re: #118 Jebediah, RBG

I got caught in fucking Trumptraffic today. Close to two hours to get from Pico & Bundy to 6th & LaBrea.

My office is only a block away from where Shiterrella is staying at the Intercontinental Hotel in Downtown Los Angeles.

And it was a pain in the @$$ to get home with the main entrance to the downtown Metro station closed and streets blocked off…Now I got to leave early to get to work on time today…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:13:28am

re: #168 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Still recovering from a simultaneous crash of my boot drive and TimeMachine drive. So I had to do a fresh install of MacOS and now slowing putting the pieces together.

I don’t know what happened but both drives are on the same Firewire bus and perhaps there was a surge?

That’s why I always make two backups to my main drive—one with Time Machine and another with Carbon Copy Cloner every day. I’ve had the double whammy with Time Machine and the main drive and I fall back by wiping the drive clean and using CCC to restore.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:13:56am

re: #176 Citizen K

Lewandowski has no obligation to be honest with the media

The media have no obligation to be honest with us

And that is the New Media Reality

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Citizen K  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:18:33am

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lewandowski has no obligation to be honest with the media

The media have no obligation to be honest with us

And that is the New Media Reality

That’s the dirty secret to our entire society it seems: no one is really obligated to treat anyone with any respect or decency, and the only real camaraderie is in banding together to demean and disrespect groups too weak or too small to fight back. Any assumption of inherent dignity will only result in being taken advantage of by those strong enough and smart enough to take advantage of you until they shiv you.

It’s a cynical, nihilistic, and inherently bleak worldview. But looking at who gets to succeed in our country, and the deference those who hide nothing about their shittiness receive, it’s apparently the most realistic one.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:23:20am

re: #180 Citizen K

That’s the dirty secret to our entire society it seems: no one is really obligated to treat anyone with any respect or decency, and the only real camaraderie is in banding together to demean and disrespect groups too weak or too small to fight back. Any assumption of inherent dignity will only result in being taken advantage of by those strong enough and smart enough to take advantage of you until they shiv you.

It’s a cynical, nihilistic, and inherently bleak worldview. But looking at who gets to succeed in our country, and the deference those who hide nothing about their shittiness receive, it’s apparently the most realistic one.

Listen to the callers we deal with at work and they love how Trump kicks down colored people and gays. That’s the main thing they live for—seeing gawd’s anointed king defend the white race. And that attitude is reenforced every second by the Republican 24/7 Bullshit machine on the radio, in newspapers, on the net and especially in the churches.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:23:39am

Replace Jewish with white and you have a Trump quote.

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Citizen K  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:26:31am

re: #181 Joe Bacon 🌹

Listen to the callers we deal with at work and they love how Trump kicks down colored people and gays. That’s the main thing they live for—seeing gawd’s anointed king defend the white race. And that attitude is reenforced every second by the Republican 24/7 Bullshit machine on the radio, in newspapers, on the net and especially in the churches.

I just can’t be that way, I’m not wired that way, and it sickens me to see it so prevalent. But the more I see, the more I’m convinced I’m just in the vast minority and hate and dishonesty really does rule everything.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:31:52am

re: #180 Citizen K

That’s the dirty secret to our entire society it seems: no one is really obligated to treat anyone with any respect or decency, and the only real camaraderie is in banding together to demean and disrespect groups too weak or too small to fight back.

There was a time when news outlets lived from their reputation for accuracy and truth.

Now they live from their audience share.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:32:34am

Something odd about the timing of the bombing in SA supposedly by Iran (which SA itself says the evidence that Iran was the originator of said bombing) and the Israel election.

Not that I am going all CT or anything. But interesting timing nonetheless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:32:48am

124K updings on the nose!

Thank you all, only 1,000 points away from my intermediate Lifetime Goal of 250K

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:35:01am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Israeli elections are once again confounding and not surprising in the slightest.

The balance of power remains split on razor thin margins (56-57, with Gantz’s coalition leading), but Bibi knows that he’s still got advantages here. Israeli law means that the President gets to choose who gets first crack to form the government. Rivlin might tab Bibi to form as he’s the outgoing PM, in which case Bibi could try to cobble together a government out of the fractured parties that make up the Knesset. Or he gives Gantz a shot, which means that Bibi’s truly out.

Ha’aretz runs down a bunch of possibilities, including that there’s no government formed and yet another election is held next year.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:40:06am

re: #183 Citizen K

I just can’t be that way, I’m not wired that way, and it sickens me to see it so prevalent. But the more I see, the more I’m convinced I’m just in the vast minority and hate and dishonesty really does rule everything.

If it seems that way, then you’re spending way too much time reading the internet. I mean, I love the information here, but my kid has some great teachers helping him learn, my dad still helps me figure out stuff around the House, Elizabeth Warren spends four hours taking pictures with people that show up at her rallies, the Obamas are still alive and doing their Obama thing, my dogs are still cute and frustrating and adorable. It’s tough when you see the people at the top like they are now, but we have the ability to deal with them, no matter what the gloom around here gets like (the “Oh, he’ll just declare himself president for life if he loses” is crap thinking).

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Disloyal Archangel  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:46:44am

re: #187 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Israeli elections are once again confounding and not surprising in the slightest.

The balance of power remains split on razor thin margins (56-57, with Gantz’s coalition leading), but Bibi knows that he’s still got advantages here. Israeli law means that the President gets to choose who gets first crack to form the government. Rivlin might tab Bibi to form as he’s the outgoing PM, in which case Bibi could try to cobble together a government out of the fractured parties that make up the Knesset. Or he gives Gantz a shot, which means that Bibi’s truly out.

Ha’aretz runs down a bunch of possibilities, including that there’s no government formed and yet another election is held next year.

Good morning/afternoon!

What’s not mentioned is that President Rivlin and Knesset Chairman Edelstein have both made it clear that a “3rd round” is not something that they’re going to allow.
So one way or another, someone’s gonna be assembling a government this time around.

As it stands now, Gantz has the higher number compared to Bibi.
Netanyahu’s argument last time was that since it was too close to call, then the head of the biggest party representing the biggest bloc should call the shots.
That’s not the case anymore; Ganz is the biggest party AND in the bigger bloc.
And it might grow further, since it seems that they’re only starting to count the ballots from the predominantly Arab cities - The Joint List has 13 but could rise to as high as 15 seats, increasing the left-wing bloc at the expense of the right.
So that one claim that he barely got away with last time holds no water now.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:50:53am
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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:52:12am

re: #189 Disloyal Archangel

Bibi’s last remaining argument is that the Joint List (aka the Arab parties) shouldn’t count. It’s the appeal to apartheid. And it’s not without its backers on the right wing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 6:55:09am

re: #190 MsJ

1 in 16 women said their first time having sex was rape, according to a new study in the Journal of the American Medical Association

The word “rape” often evokes strong images of violence, but it covers a lot of situations that are not necessarily violent, just non-consensual.

I for one cannot for the life of me imagine having sex with any woman who is not actively willing, under any circumstances. But I guess there are lot of men out there who have to problem with that…

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plansbandc  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:00:17am

I wish to be there…

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:01:47am

Off to work shortly but looking at local news and some whales put on a star appearance for a whale-watching boat. Those critters have huge brains. Is some clever whale putting on “see the humans” tours at this point?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:03:03am
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:04:49am

Yair Rosenberg explains the very confusing (& fucked up) Israeli election process:

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Disloyal Archangel  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:04:59am

re: #191 lawhawk

Bibi’s last remaining argument is that the Joint List (aka the Arab parties) shouldn’t count. It’s the appeal to apartheid. And it’s not without its backers on the right wing.

Agreed wholeheartedly.
But the one he needs to convince is President Rivlin, an honorable moderate who’s been the target of plenty on the right before, including Netanyahu (who he probably hates with a passion by now) and who is on good terms with the Arab populace. There’s no way he’d go along with that, if for no other reason that it would mean his end - the end of his career, the end of his reputation and name, and that it would probably spark holy hell, riots and violence throughout the country.
Not gonna happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:05:47am

re: #194 Rightwingconspirator

Off to work shortly but looking at local news and some whales put on a star appearance for a whale-watching boat. Those critters have huge brains. Is some clever whale putting on “see the humans” tours at this point?

why the fuck would they want to see us?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:10:19am

People Googling like mad

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:10:28am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

why the fuck would they want to see us?

As a warning to their children?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:11:54am

re: #200 Belafon

As a warning to their children?

That occurred to me as the only thing that would be of interest to them

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:22:46am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

why the fuck would they want to see us?

Why do we want to see them?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:25:28am

re: #202 MsJ

Why do we want to see them?

because they are large and majestic. We are puny and stupid.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:27:36am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because they are large and majestic. We are puny and stupid.

Meaning different. Isn’t that what zoos are for? :D

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:28:42am

re: #204 MsJ

Meaning different. Isn’t that what zoos are for? :D

whales are large and awesome, a source of wonder. we are small and ugly and a source of annoyance or worse…we generally don’t go to zoos to see pests and vermin.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:29:46am
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MsJ  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:30:16am

re: #205 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

whales are large and awesome, a source of wonder. we are small and ugly and a source of annoyance or worse…we generally don’t go to zoos to see pests and vermin.

I think I resent that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:31:35am

re: #207 MsJ

I think I resent that.

I am trying to view ourselves from the point of view of the whales, who just want to live and find themselves attacked or poisoned by small pink monkey creatures in boats…

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:32:36am

re: #204 MsJ

Meaning different. Isn’t that what zoos are for? :D

They did stick us on less than 30% of the earth’s surface.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:33:43am

re: #207 MsJ

I think I resent that.

I’m pretty sure I resemble it.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:34:38am

And we know the whales got on land, looked around, and said “I’m not having anything to do with this,” and went back into the water.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:34:43am

re: #209 Belafon

They did stick us on less than 30% of the earth’s surface.

whereby too many of us still seem to think that if we just toss it into the remaining 70% it is gone and no longer our problem…

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:34:50am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am trying to view ourselves from the point of view of the whales, who just want to live and find themselves attacked or poisoned by small pink monkey creatures in boats…

But you are applying human logic and giving that logic to whales. My proposition is as valid as yours as I am applying my human logic to them.

FTR, while I can be pesty at times, I am not vermin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:36:17am

re: #213 MsJ

But you are applying human logic and giving that logic to whales. My proposition is as valid as yours as I am applying my human logic to them.

FTR, while I can be pesty at times, I am not vermin.

it is really rude to refer to fellow humans as such, but again, I am trying to look at at us from the cetacean point of view…

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:40:19am
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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:40:54am

Who is Robert O’Brien.

He works for Trumpworld. That should be a red flag right there.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:42:46am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:43:01am

Well, this is lovely…

GIZMODO - It turns out that anyone with basic computing skills and an internet connection can access millions of private medical images and data—such as MRIs, X-rays, and CT scans—as well as a buffet of valuable private info, according to a disturbing report from ProPublica.

The gist is that as the medical community moved from analog to digital methods of sharing test results, security practices lagged behind. Unlike data breaches in other industries, where hackers make use of flaws in a company’s security practices, many digital medical records systems don’t even require passwords. What that means is you don’t even need fancy hacker software to peep at millions of medical test results. All you need is to know where to look, and an internet browser.

In its investigation, ProPublica worked with German security firm Greenbone Networks, and journalists from German broadcaster Bayerischer Rundfunk. It ultimately identified 187 servers in the U.S. that lacked passwords or basic security precautions. In total, the data from more than 16 million medical scans worldwide are available online. What’s worse is that on top of private medical images, the scans include sensitive information such as names, birthdates, and in some cases, Social Security numbers.

One issue is it’s unclear who exactly is at fault, and many of the parties involved seem to think securing data is someone else’s responsibility.

Apparently nobody gives a shit about anything anymore as long as they can keep making money.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:48:29am

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

Apparently nobody gives a shit about anything anymore as long as they can keep making money.

Why didn’t ftp and telnet not require passwords? Where are the protocols based on plain text? Why wasn’t www proposed with a security standard?

Because the scientists and engineers who created them were thinking about sharing information, because that’s what they want to do. That’s what this looks like. Doctors want to be able to share and access data.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:49:19am
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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:49:22am

re: #122 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

TRUMP WORRIED UNSIGHTLY HOMELESS ARE HURTING PROPERTY VALUES

Property values being harmed. In California. Pause for a moment to consider that statement.

(Since there’s a clear correlation between homelessness and increased housing costs, he should be arguing that the homeless are driving up property values. Don’t tell me I need sarc tags.)

Oh. Good morning.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:50:07am

re: #199 The Pie Overlord!

People Googling like mad

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Then they google ASAP Rocky

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:51:01am

Interesting thread
And I note, it’s still early

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:51:20am

re: #221 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

Property values being harmed. In California. Pause for a moment to consider that statement.

(Since there’s a clear correlation between homelessness and increased housing costs, he should be arguing that the homeless are driving up property values. Don’t tell me I need sarc tags.)

Oh. Good morning.

Yeahbutt, the cruelty is the point. He’s going to start rounding up and imprisoning homeless.

Because he wants to.

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Citizen K  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:56:04am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Interesting thread
And I note, it’s still early

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As someone who would love to see Harris make it to the end, seeing the polls like this just depress me, especially how consistent the hard drop has been. She’s torpedoing so hard, and the only thing I can see about why is the 2nd debate with the Tulsi attacks and the continued “COPMALA!!” rage. And seeing that bullshit linger this hard and continue to sink her numbers is just….fucking hell.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 18, 2019 • 7:56:05am

re: #224 MsJ

I hate that I have to upding your post, but I do.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:00:25am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Interesting thread
And I note, it’s still early

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- 8 for Harris? What the fuck is that about?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:02:18am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:10:21am

re: #227 Eclectic Cyborg

See
re: #57 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:12:54am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:13:55am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

The proposed background check process will have so many holes in it even Swiss Cheese will be like: “Damn, son.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:13:59am

re: #215 lawhawk

Lewandowski testified about an episode of obstruction he was involved in that was detailed in the Mueller report, but he admits that he never actually read the report itself.

Trump hasn’t either, why should he?

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:14:11am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:15:09am

It’s the oldest play in politics (or business for that matter): Make it look like you are changing something without actually changing anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:16:49am
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plansbandc  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:19:02am

re: #224 MsJ

Also when he legalizes weed the night before the election, his private prison buddies are going to need a whole new bunch of inmates. The homeless will fit that bill nicely, as will immigrants and the alleged mentally ill (meaning, of course democrats and other dissidents).

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:19:46am

re: #15 teleskiguy

Fuckface Von Clownstick will have to be forcibly removed from the White House in a straitjacket, he’ll never concede defeat in an election.

I’m afraid he is going to do a horrific amount of damage on the way out. People keep saying “Duh! Arrest him and carry him out of the White House on Inauguration Day”.

It won’t be that easy. He can declare martial law. He can have troops suppress demonstrations. He can have Barr try to indict the president elect. He can have things tied up in courts staffed by his appointees.

He can basically wreck the country.

One of the things another administration congress will need to do is radically cut back on the powers if the presidency. We now see how they can be abused.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:21:15am
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:22:51am

re: #18 Targetpractice

He won’t concede, but will instead accuse the media of broadcasting “fake” results while he insists the DOJ will be investigating every state he lost to get the “real” results. As well as suing in the courts to prevent the vote totals from being certified. And, towards the end, imploring the Congressional Repubs to save his ass by taking whatever steps necessary to prevent the election results from being certified.

There are scenarios where he might be able to sue in enough states to get the whole thing thrown to the House of representatives…and each state delegation gets one vote…meaning he would win. That is another nightmare waiting to happen where states like NY and California could basically refuse to recognize the federal government and act independently.

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gocart mozart  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:23:11am
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:24:41am

re: #225 Citizen K

As someone who would love to see Harris make it to the end, seeing the polls like this just depress me, especially how consistent the hard drop has been. She’s torpedoing so hard, and the only thing I can see about why is the 2nd debate with the Tulsi attacks and the continued “COPMALA!!” rage. And seeing that bullshit linger this hard and continue to sink her numbers is just….fucking hell.

I’ve been at a loss to explain why she and Booker are doing so badly. I think there is a very low tolerance for risk (anything other than moderate white dude) right now.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:26:32am

re: #219 Belafon

Because the scientists and engineers who created them were thinking about sharing information, because that’s what they want to do. That’s what this looks like. Doctors want to be able to share and access data.

That’s why the internet in its current form is permanently broke - security was not a core requirement in its design.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:27:15am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

The ‘licensed transfer agent’ seems like a possible revenue engine for a Notary.

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Citizen K  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:31:56am

re: #241 Scottish Dragon

I’ve been at a loss to explain why she and Booker are doing so badly. I think there is a very low tolerance for risk (anything other than moderate white dude) right now.

It’s especially frustrating with Harris because she climbed up significantly, and then dropped extra hard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:32:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:34:13am

moron

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:36:29am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Despot.

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retired cynic  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:37:32am

re: #233 MsJ

The record-keeping requirements would be enforced via civil penalties. Also, if a firearm were used in a crime, the seller would enjoy the same civil immunity as FFLs…

Well, speak of toothless!

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:37:37am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

Liar.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:39:53am

Just spitballing here, but maybe Kamala would be an excellent VP choice for one of the other candidates?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:41:36am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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States’ rights!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:41:49am
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:44:03am

re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg

Just spitballing here, but maybe Kamala would be an excellent VP choice for one of the other candidates?

Have her replace Barr.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:47:01am

re: #240 gocart mozart

I’ve always been partial to this performance.

Jimi Hendrix - Hey Joe Monterey Pop Festival 1967

Just damn.

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William Lewis  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:53:12am

re: #140 austin_blue

So they are finally replacing the Dirty White Rocket, the T-38, which I trained in in…1979.

And it was old then.

Fun plane to fly, it has wings like knife blades. At around 280 knots, it has a 0 degree angle of attack, which means all of the lift generated by the plane to keep it in the air is generated by the shape of the body, not the wings. You didn’t really do loops, you did high-angle climbs and dives. It was an absolute supersonic telephone pole.

I read the Pilot’s manual for it and it seemed like 1) a hell of a lot of fun and 2) a plane that could the fuck away from a new pilot really easily.

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jeffreyw  Sep 18, 2019 • 8:58:47am

Jimi Hendrix - Red House

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:00:13am
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:02:30am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“all advertised commercial sales”

As I predicted they’re planning to carve out a massive exception for gifts, inheritances, and wink-wink nudge-nudge “barter” handshake deals.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:04:11am

re: #255 William Lewis

I read the Pilot’s manual for it and it seemed like 1) a hell of a lot of fun and 2) a plane that could the fuck away from a new pilot really easily.

I heard stories about the F104 like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:04:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:06:06am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Everyone cries here.”

see? The deterrent effect is working!

/

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:07:53am

re: #249 MsJ

Asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:13:27am
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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:13:46am

re: #241 Scottish Dragon

I’ve been at a loss to explain why she and Booker are doing so badly. I think there is a very low tolerance for risk (anything other than moderate white dude) right now.

Some of it’s that, but they just aren’t in the news that much. I’ve had Harris as my top choice, but Warren is the one we’re hearing about. The selfie story alone is a masterstroke of marketing as well as a great way to get with the constituents.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:15:03am

re: #264 Belafon

Some of it’s that, but they just aren’t in the news that much. I’ve had Harris as my top choice, but Warren is the one we’re hearing about. The selfie story alone is a masterstroke of marketing as well as a great way to get with the constituents.

Harris has been my top choice also.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:15:14am

re: #242 Eric The Fruit Bat

That’s why the internet in its current form is permanently broke - security was not a core requirement in its design.

Agreed. We need a top-down restructure, and flip everything over. Not sure how that will work without a super-global crisis.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:15:27am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

These are turbulent days for the migrants of El Buen Pastor. For the first time since World War II, the U.S. government is turning away thousands of asylum seekers regardless of their need for refuge.

A series of Trump Administration immigration rule changes have effectively sealed the border to the vast majority of asylum seekers, leaving tens of thousands of migrants in limbo, and shifting responsibility for U.S. immigration policy to the Mexican government and dozens of Mexican shelters.

…

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security insists the January policy returning migrants to Mexico is designed to bring order to the asylum process and “decrease the number of those taking advantage of the immigration system.”

Before the new policy, migrants who passed a so-called “credible fear” screening could stay in the U.S. while immigration courts decided their case. Now, it’s often not clear how the process works.

At first, only Central Americans were sent back to Mexico under the new policy. Then, starting in June, Cubans were also sent back. Pregnant women, non-Spanish speakers, and other vulnerable migrants are sometimes — but not always — allowed into the U.S.

A second administration order, on July 16, effectively denied asylum to most migrants arriving at the border from that day forward, insisting they must first seek asylum in another country they had passed through.

That order split the shelter into winners and losers, and punished many of those who had waited for their number to come up.

Suddenly, people who had asked for asylum before July 16 — even if they had done so after arriving in the U.S. illegally — could proceed with their asylum applications while they waited in Mexico. But nearly everyone who tried to put in an asylum request after that date would first have to apply for asylum in Mexico or another country they had passed through.

I hate the Trump administration so fucking much.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:16:48am

re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg

Just spitballing here, but maybe Kamala would be an excellent VP choice for one of the other candidates?

If we were to remove her from the Senate, which I’m not sure is a good idea, I would either put her as AG or head of DHS (time to restructure ICE).

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:20:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:25:53am

re: #269 Scottish Dragon

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trail brazers?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:25:53am

re: #265 Scottish Dragon

Harris has been my top choice also.

The Bernie Bros launched a coordinated attack on her since last year. But they apparently haven’t figured out how to damage Warren. Nothing pleases me more than seeing the decline in Sanders support. I really like Warren but am not sure how the Medicare for All proposal will play out in a general election. Would love to see a Warren-Harris ticket, but that is not a winning combination in the contemporary world but hopefully some time in the near future.

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William Lewis  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:26:26am

re: #269 Scottish Dragon

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Remains a mistake; give the tactical and transport assets back to the army and the strategic assets to the navy. The separate AF has not been worth the additional cost.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:26:36am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

trail brazers?

my trail is brazen

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retired cynic  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:27:27am

The Hummingbird Whisperer (on Colossal)

Neat short video

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:27:36am

re: #272 William Lewis

Remains a mistake; give the tactical and transport assets back to the army and the strategic assets to the navy. The separate AF has not been worth the additional cost.

They will always recall that golden age when we were the only nation with nuclear weapons and the aircraft to deliver them anywhere around the world

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:36:54am
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:37:54am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:38:50am

Is it possible Omar will lose in the next election as a result of all this crap?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:38:57am

My question: why in the world does Robert C. O’Brien supposedly speak Afrikaans? That is a very odd and troubling choice for foreign language skill for a person who has no ties to South Africa in the days of apartheid.

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danarchy  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:39:39am

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, sorry namecheap is a well known low cost domain name registrar. I’ve used them in the past . The fact Corey registered and hosted his domain there means he’s cheap, that’s all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:41:25am

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

Is it possible Omar will lose in the next election as a result of all this crap?

I am more worried about her becoming the victim of an assassination attempt than about her losing her seat.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:43:37am

re: #276 The Pie Overlord!

It looks like the original tweet is gone.

re: #278 Eclectic Cyborg

Is it possible Omar will lose in the next election as a result of all this crap?

Highly unlikely. As much as Trump tries, she’s popular in her district.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:44:00am

re: #276 The Pie Overlord!

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:46:18am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wasn’t she dancing with LIzzo in the video? It’s been a few days so I don’t quite remember.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:47:22am

re: #280 danarchy

Yeah, sorry namecheap is a well known low cost domain name registrar. I’ve used them in the past . The fact Corey registered and hosted his domain there means he’s cheap, that’s all.

I remember when optics mattered.

Apparently, that only matters if you’re a democrat.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:58:23am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s trying to get her killed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2019 • 9:59:03am

re: #277 The Pie Overlord!

Thread on the Trump smear machine and how it turned an innocent event involving @IlhanMN into a false allegation of her dancing on 9/11(!). Absolutely despicable.

…

Is it possible that the motivation for this smear is to distract from the very real Trump intent of hosting the Taliban at Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11?

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:00:27am

re: #287 Hecuba’s daughter

Is it possible that the motivation for this smear is to distract from the very real Trump intent of hosting the Taliban at Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11?

Yes

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:00:29am

Meanwhile Trump actually is friendly with the scion of a guy who said we deserved 9/11,

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:01:46am

re: #288 Belafon

Yes

He’s like a monkey throwing shit at the wall. No art to it. Just shit

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:05:09am

To recap, on September 11, 2001, Trump said he saw the second plane hit the tower (from over 4 miles away), witnessed Muslims dancing in celebration in New Jersey (12 miles away), and helped first responders at ground zero all at the same time.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:05:56am

re: #291 Ace Rothstein

To recap, on September 11, 2001, Trump said he saw the second plane hit the tower (from over 4 miles away), witnessed Muslims dancing in celebration in New Jersey (12 miles away), and helped first responders at ground zero all at the same time.

He’s such a pathetic liar and easily 40% of our country buys every word.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:06:04am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

trail brazers?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:16:41am

re: #291 Ace Rothstein

To recap, on September 11, 2001, Trump said he saw the second plane hit the tower (from over 4 miles away), witnessed Muslims dancing in celebration in New Jersey (12 miles away), and helped first responders at ground zero all at the same time.

Good ol’ North Korean style revisionism, right there.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:21:24am

re: #294 Eclectic Cyborg

Good ol’ North Korean style revisionism, right there.

He exists in multiple universes simultaneously. It’s like a crappy Spiderverse, but with Trump.

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gocart mozart  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:24:26am
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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:27:09am

Young, smart Democratic women scare the living fuck out of wingnuts, apparently.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:29:28am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:31:02am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:33:05am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:36:13am

re: #297 makeitstop

Young, smart Democratic women scare the living fuck out of wingnuts, apparently.

This seems more accurate to me.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:38:28am

Megan ArgleBargle says wimminz just can’t haz real reliable memories so who knowz what teh real troof is about Kavanaugh?

I wish I were kidding.

Total retread of the bullshit from the GOP a year ago.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:40:42am

re: #302 Scottish Dragon

Sigh.

Why does the NYT and The Post keep turning their opinion pages over to these nutbars?

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:42:15am
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:43:01am

re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg

Sigh.

Why does the NYT and The Post keep turning their opinion pages over to these nutbars?

McMegan should stick with her expensive kitchen alliances. She’ll do less damage.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:45:40am
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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:48:51am

re: #291 Ace Rothstein

To recap, on September 11, 2001, Trump said he saw the second plane hit the tower (from over 4 miles away), witnessed Muslims dancing in celebration in New Jersey (12 miles away), and helped first responders at ground zero all at the same time.

While claiming on tv that his building was now the tallest in NYC (it wasn’t even the tallest in Lower Manhattan).

Forget about the thousands murdered, Trump cared only to lie to everyone that his building was now the tallest (it wasn’t).

And he’s lied about what he and his company did at Ground Zero - which was nothing. He didn’t do anything there. He wasn’t involved in clearing debris or rebuilding.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:50:16am
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uriel  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:50:41am

re: #80 goddamnedfrank

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:54:29am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2019 • 10:59:21am

For those Lizards interested in crime/criminology, looks like there’s been a major break in the Hwaseong Serial Murders case, sometimes referred to as South Korea’s Zodiac case.

There was a conclusive DNA match and a suspect has been identified - he’s already serving a life sentence for raping and murdering his sister-in-law back in early 1994; he’s being identified by South Korean authorities only as “Mr. A”.

The Hwaseong Serial Murders inspired the outstanding South Korean film Memories of Murder, which is one of those films I strongly recommend; it’s easily the equal of David Fincher’s Zodiac.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:03:22am

re: #311 Dr Lizardo

Here’s an English-language article: koreaherald.com

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:06:55am

re: #311 Dr Lizardo

For those Lizards interested in crime/criminology, looks like there’s been a major break in the Hwaesong Serial Murders case, sometimes referred to as South Korea’s Zodiac case.

There was a conclusive DNA match and a suspect has been identified - he’s already serving a life sentence for murdering his sister-in-law back in late 1993; he’s being identified by South Korean authorities only as “Mr. A”.

The Hwaesong Serial Murders inspired the outstanding South Korean film Memories of Murder, which is one of those films I strongly recommend; it’s easily the equal of David Fincher’s Zodiac.

That reminds me…

Unbelievable just came out on Netflix right now and it is outstanding and utterly enraging. True story I read about last year of a serial rapist and how (middle aged male) police refused to believe his first victim and charged her with making a false report. The look on one of the detectives faces when he is informed that police in Colorado have the rapist and linked it “to one of your unsolved cases” is something to see as he realizes the teen age girl he got convicted and sentenced for lying…was not lying.

This is one that will make you want to punch holes in walls. The teen girl in question settled against Snownomish, got a job as a long haul trucker and is married with two kids. She said that the scene of her interrogation by the two detectives is absolutely dead on as to what happened.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:08:21am
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:12:44am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uh oh. 2008 here we go again…

Cash available to banks for their short-term funding needs all but dried up earlier this week, and interest rates in U.S. money markets shot up to as high as 10% for some overnight loans, more than four times the Fed’s rate.
That forced the Fed to make an emergency injection of more than $125 billion over the past two days, its first major market intervention since the financial crisis more than a decade ago, to prevent borrowing costs from spiraling even higher. While the effort restored a measure of order to the short-term bank funding market, it was not enough to stop the Fed’s benchmark lending rate from rising above its targeted range of 2.00% to 2.25%.

Last time this happened, businesses were struggling to make payroll or stock things like…food on shelves.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:13:07am
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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:16:35am

The economy is doing so great that the Fed has had to cut interest rates twice.

Both are consequences of Trump’s idiotic trade war, and the economy slowing down due to the drag the trade war has on business spending.

But the liquidity issues seem to be a whole new wrinkle of awfulness, and Trump cares only that his businesses see a huge break due to the rate cut (he’s leveraged to his eyeballs, so every cut in the fed rate means he potentially sees millions in savings).

None of this is normal.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:17:32am

America owes a debt of gratitude to Danial Dale and his reporting.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:20:46am

On the subject of films, this looks good:

Knives Out (2019) New Trailer – Daniel Craig, Chris Evans, Ana de Armas

Written and directed by Rian Johnson.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:24:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:28:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:32:02am
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KGxvi  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:32:37am

re: #253 Scottish Dragon

Have her replace Barr.

I’d rather she stay in the Senate. VP is, in my opinion, is mostly worthless. AG would be good, but it only makes sense if she either wants to return to California politics (governor) or run for president again in 8 years.

California politics is crowded and there’s no guarantee she would win a race for governor when Newsom is termed out.

She can build a nice legacy in the Senate. And would be a more interesting choice for the Supreme Court if/when a vacancy opens during a Democratic administration.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:32:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:35:58am
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:41:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:43:38am
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:43:57am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That was really, really hard to watch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:49:35am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:50:19am

re: #328 Scottish Dragon

That was really, really hard to watch.

I think that was the idea.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:50:40am

moron

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:51:31am

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

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moron

And of course the coming economic collapse will no doubt be blamed on the next Democratic President.

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retired cynic  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:52:12am

re: #328 Scottish Dragon

That was really, really hard to watch.

I didn’t try. Getting overwhelmed here…

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:54:18am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rep. Mark Pocan
✔
@repmarkpocan
This is a BIG deal. Today, we found out 1200 empty beds in the Homestead detention center costs us $720k/day.

Why are we bankrolling the pockets of a private company for running an empty facility? The American people deserve answers @realDonaldTrump.

No private facilities. These should all be government owned and government run.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:58:14am
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retired cynic  Sep 18, 2019 • 11:59:43am

Context on Kamala Harris as career prosecutor: medium.com

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 18, 2019 • 12:00:24pm
Porn star Jessica Jaymes has been found dead at home in California, it was reported Wednesday. She was just 43.

nypost.com

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2019 • 12:01:20pm

re: #297 makeitstop

Young, smart Democratic women scare the living fuck out of wingnuts, apparently.

Things they don’t like about AOC, Omar, etc.:
Democrat
Young
Smart
non-WASP
The Democratic party doesn’t think there’s anything wrong with them.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 18, 2019 • 12:02:31pm

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Privatization creates proxy structures that function like government but have no accountability, not “less government.”

Their opaque operations means that they can be unecessarily large and expensive because they’ve padded but the public is forced to pay the bill regardless.

They’re the perfect representation of how modern conservatives don’t care in the least about “small government”: they’re fine with cruelty, waste, and inefficiency (relative to stated function rather than profit motive). Privatization not only feeds their venal and corrupt impulses, but also their authoritarian ones: they like that these groups do less, to the point of hurting, sickening, and killing people.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2019 • 12:09:02pm

re: #337 Shropshire Slasher

nypost.com

Damn.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2019 • 12:25:08pm

re: #337 Shropshire Slasher

From the story, seems she had a medical history of seizures.


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