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jaunte  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:12:02pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:13:33pm

It looks more and more like Trump tried to use military aid to Ukraine to extort them into assisting his campaign in destroying Joe Biden’s candidacy. And now that they’ve been caught, they’re moving quickly to the “Who cares?” stage where they argue that even if they did blatantly violate the law, nobody (who matters) got hurt and they’ve “made it right” by restoring the military aid, so he should be issued yet another mulligan and the matter dropped.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:15:35pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:16:24pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

It looks more and more like Trump tried to use military aid to Ukraine to extort them into assisting his campaign in destroying Joe Biden’s candidacy. And now that they’ve been caught, they’re moving quickly to the “Who cares?” stage where they argue that even if they did blatantly violate the law, nobody (who matters) got hurt and they’ve “made it right” by restoring the military aid, so he should be issued yet another mulligan and the matter dropped.

If this is all there is, I doubt it will change a single R vote in the Senate.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:18:15pm

So why did Dan Crenshaw hide from veterans who wanted to ask him why he’s such a Trump toady?

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retired cynic  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:18:20pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

There it is! My favorite!

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:18:57pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:22:52pm

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:23:34pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:23:46pm

By the way, before Rudy was on CNN to scream “YES, I ORDERED THE CODE RED!,” they had Matt Schlapp on to begin setting the stage for the Repub excuse for ignoring this story: “The whistleblower is politically motivated!”

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:26:02pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

By the way, before Rudy was on CNN to scream “YES, I ORDERED THE CODE RED!,” they had Matt Schlapp on to begin setting the stage for the Repub excuse for ignoring this story: “The whistleblower is politically motivated!”

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Apparently Fox News is already on deck with some drivel about the whistleblower being a deep state operative.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:26:30pm

re: #8 Ace Rothstein

The chorus to this here 90s song.

TOOL - Ænema (Audio)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:27:54pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:28:03pm

re: #11 EPR-radar

So the deep state operative is right about the whole thing and they still deny it?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:28:58pm

re: #8 Ace Rothstein

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Every time I see a picture of 0$teen he reminds me of Conrad Poohs and his Dancing Teeth!

Conrad Poohs & His Dancing Teeth (monthy python)

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:30:26pm

re: #13 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Historians.

Seriously?

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Dread Pirate  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:31:20pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:31:35pm

What the Democrats don’t seem to understand is that they are participants in a war vs. Republicans and Republican enablers in the media.

So far it’s mostly a propaganda war, and the main problem is that the Democrats aren’t really fighting back as needed to even stay in the war, much less win it.

Of course there can be no Fox News of the left because it would be stupid and also it wouldn’t work because the US left does not have the insatiable appetite for lies that the right does. The failure of Air America was disappointing.

But it remains essential for the left to have its own propaganda. That doesn’t have to be lies — Allied propaganda vs. the Axis powers in WWII was mostly truthful, and I see no reason to lie about Republicans when the truth about them is so damning.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:32:26pm

re: #14 Ace Rothstein

So the deep state operative is right about the whole thing and they still deny it?

It’s the Steele dossier approach: So muddy the waters by arguing about the “bias” of the source that people will argue that rather than the actual contents. In this case, insist that this was a totally innocent call and that a “deep state operative” had a political motivation to bring it to the attention of higher ups.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:34:51pm

Don’t kid yourselves. The “Second Civil War” talk shouldn’t be discounted.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:35:47pm

re: #14 Ace Rothstein

So the deep state operative is right about the whole thing and they still deny it?

Well, when the Russian asset in the White House starts fucking up everything the US intelligence community has been doing for decades, there will be massive resistance from the IC.

IMO the ‘deep state’ bullshit narrative is mainly focused on neutering that resistance. It’s also handy as a generic conspiracy theory to fill the hard vacuum inside wing skulls.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:36:01pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

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Don’t kid yourselves. The “Second Civil War” talk shouldn’t be discounted.

We hear that racist bullshit every day at work from callers, especially those on SSI disability who would gladly kill for the white race.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:37:30pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:38:03pm

re: #8 Ace Rothstein

“See you down in Arizona Bay…”

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:38:26pm
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Amory Blaine  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:43:41pm

re: #13 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

You’re doing gods work on the Twitter. Hat’s off!

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CleverToad  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:47:10pm

The find of my evening, courtesy of Mark Evanier’s blog and the husband who was reading it, wondering why is it we never knew this existed?

Quoting Mr. Evanier:
“In 1967, writer-musician Mason Williams released a song called “Classical Gas” and the following year, it became quite a big hit. Part of its popularity no doubt flowed from what we would now call a “music video” though at the time, that was not a term in the common lexicon. Working with a filmmaker named Dan McLaughlin, Williams made a film that set his song to the visual of 3000 great works of art, each of them on the screen for but a fraction of a second.

Williams was then the Head Writer for The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour on CBS and the video debuted on The Summer Brothers Smothers Show, which was a summer replacement series that filled Tom and Dick’s time slot for a while in the summer of ‘68. Glen Campbell was the host.

This, uploaded to YouTube by Mason Williams himself, is that 3 minute and 10 second video. If you are familiar with the tune from its frequent radio play, you may notice that this is a different recording of the song. There are several. If you go to Spotify to listen to “Classic Gas” by Mason Williams, there’s a version that’s 2:36, another that’s 3:08 and one that’s 3:31 and I don’t think any of them are this one. My thanks to Maggie Thompson who discovered this was online…”

Classical Gas - 3000 Years of Art

SERIOUS WARNING: This is entirely composed of very fast-flashing images, do NOT watch if you have problems with that.

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:47:24pm
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jaunte  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:48:23pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:49:59pm

re: #29 jaunte

March of the Turkeys.

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retired cynic  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:52:43pm

re: #27 CleverToad

Thank you!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:56:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:57:49pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 19, 2019 • 7:58:57pm

re: #27 CleverToad

The find of my evening, courtesy of Mark Evanier’s blog and the husband who was reading it, wondering why is it we never knew this existed?

Quoting Mr. Evanier:
“In 1967, writer-musician Mason Williams released a song called “Classical Gas” and the following year, it became quite a big hit. Part of its popularity no doubt flowed from what we would now call a “music video” though at the time, that was not a term in the common lexicon. Working with a filmmaker named Dan McLaughlin, Williams made a film that set his song to the visual of 3000 great works of art, each of them on the screen for but a fraction of a second.

Williams was then the Head Writer for The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour on CBS and the video debuted on The Summer Brothers Smothers Show, which was a summer replacement series that filled Tom and Dick’s time slot for a while in the summer of ‘68. Glen Campbell was the host.

This, uploaded to YouTube by Mason Williams himself, is that 3 minute and 10 second video. If you are familiar with the tune from its frequent radio play, you may notice that this is a different recording of the song. There are several. If you go to Spotify to listen to “Classic Gas” by Mason Williams, there’s a version that’s 2:36, another that’s 3:08 and one that’s 3:31 and I don’t think any of them are this one. My thanks to Maggie Thompson who discovered this was online…”

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Video

SERIOUS WARNING: This is entirely composed of very fast-flashing images, do NOT watch if you have problems with that.

Back in the mid-seventies, some local television stations would use the section from about 1:13-1:30 as the theme for their local news broadcasts.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:03:20pm
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jaunte  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:05:03pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:07:07pm

re: #27 CleverToad

I remember seeing this when it was shown on Glen Campbell’s show. Makes me wish those classic variety shows were on DVD or streaming. Production folks tell me the main thing stopping shows like Glen Campbell, Danny Kaye, Steve Allen and Judy Garland (among others) from going on streaming or DVD are the music clearances.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:09:43pm

re: #36 jaunte

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I got a feeling that Screwdy is deliberately doing this. He’s gladly sacrificing himself for The Party.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:10:07pm
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jaunte  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:10:22pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:13:33pm

Yeah. This will work.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:13:57pm

re: #39 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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When all is said and done, this shit is gonna make Teapot Dome look tame.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:14:33pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

I got a feeling that Screwdy is deliberately doing this. He’s gladly sacrificing himself for The Party.

I have a hard time buying that.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:15:33pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

I got a feeling that Screwdy is deliberately doing this. He’s gladly sacrificing himself for The Party.

“Sacrifice” implies that there are any negative consequences from such an act. I think we all know by now that the worst Rudy may be looking at is not being invited back to CNN for awhile.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:16:05pm

re: #41 MsJ

Everywhere you look, a bootlegger.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:18:34pm

FWIW, the Faux nightly shows that spew hatred are doing very well in the ratings, doing quite high numbers.

Trump is good for their business.

Millions of Americans are deep into the new-new-fascism, and Trump is their id made flesh.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:21:44pm
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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:30:56pm

re: #8 Ace Rothstein

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Grifter.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:38:58pm

Looks like BIOLA’s cop-apologist professor doesn’t like hard questions:

I replied to one of his posts. Also carried on a conversation with someone who had replied to one of his posts.

J Warner Wallace just blocks people who ask the hard questions.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:43:03pm

It’s starting to look like the only thing that was newsworthy about this whistleblowing incident was that it confirmed something that most of us suspected for awhile, that the withholding of military aid from Ukraine was an attempt at extortion. The sad reality is that the revelation of such will now do more to get the “BIDEN CORRUPTION!” story greater coverage than it might have received had Ukraine cooperated with the extortionists.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:44:53pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:45:10pm

Wallace tweeted out a link to one of his articles, on why a literal “Resurrection body” is a real and necessary thing for believers.

I wanted to ask:

Do Resurrection bodies?
1) drink liquids?
1b) if so, then do they urinate?
2) eat solid food?
2b) if so, then do they defecate?
3) become sexually aroused?
3b) even if they don’t have genitalia, is attraction still possible?
4) get hangnails?

But he blocked me right before I could post the tweet.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:46:15pm

re: #51 Ace-o-aces

That’s some Inception looking fuckin’ cable news.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:51:33pm

I spent a little money on myself (~$300):

Galaga, Best Arcade Game
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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2019 • 8:55:05pm

re: #51 Ace-o-aces

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Y’know, that does bring up a sad reality: For all the excitement and expectation when Rudy blurted out that Donny had paid off Cohen to pay off Daniels, there were no negative consequences whatsoever experienced by anybody not named “Michael Cohen.”

I rather suspect that that will be the same outcome of tonight’s events, that now that Rudy’s admitted out loud what most people suspected for awhile, the trajectory of this whole scandal will rapidly mirror that of the stock market on Black Tuesday. The media’s interest in the story will have been sated, Republicans now have their excuse to ignore the crimes committed, and Democrats will be back to promising yet more “investigations” that will drag on to the heat death of the universe.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:02:07pm

I don’t know, extorting a country over Congressionally mandated military aid if they don’t cough up false intel on a political opponent might be juuuuuust a little over the top.

Especially when the only beneficiaries are Mango Metamussolini and Putin.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:10:57pm

If you go the Houston NWS site, pull up the Local Radar link, and click on Storm Total, you will note that there is a huge white area north and east of Houston that is white. If you look at the scale to the right, you will note that the white areas indicate that more than 25” of rain has fallen in that area.

What it it doesn’t mention is that within that area, there are spots where over 40” of rain has fallen.

It’s still raining. Welcome to the greenhouse.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:11:03pm

re: #56 austin_blue

I don’t know, extorting a country over Congressionally mandated military aid if they don’t cough up false intel on a political opponent might be juuuuuust a little over the top.

Especially when the only beneficiaries are Mango Metamussolini and Putin.

I might believe it if Cheeto Bonito’s buds in Congress weren’t right now sporting wood over fantasies that the OIG’s report on the FISA warrants will implicate the entire Obama admin in a conspiracy to put Hillary Clinton in the White House.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:11:48pm

re: #56 austin_blue

You’d think. But nothing will come of this either.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:13:16pm

re: #57 austin_blue

If you go the Houston NWS site, pull up the Local Radar link, and click on Storm Total, you will note that there is a huge white area north and east of Houston that is white. If you look at the scale to the right, you will note that the white areas indicate that more than 25” of rain has fallen in that area.

What it it doesn’t mention is that within that area, there are spots where over 40” of rain has fallen.

It’s still raining. Welcome to the greenhouse.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:16:36pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:17:31pm

Harvey in 2017 remains the wettest tropical storm to ever make landfall in the United States. Some sites got over 60 inches of rain.

That’s fucking unreal. Fucking. Unreal.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:18:21pm

You know the moment that shit like this will become “too much”? It’ll be the very moment after a Democrat takes the oath of office. Before then, Donny could nuke L.A. and Lindsey Graham would hail is as a show of “strength.”

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:26:08pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

Life on a mudbank.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:37:12pm

My main thoroughfare (I-70) got covered in three feet of mud and dirt after *a few* inches of rain fell in a short amount of time some years back. The highway was closed for almost 72 hours.

Geology is fun!

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:46:08pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

Harvey in 2017 remains the wettest tropical storm to ever make landfall in the United States. Some sites got over 60 inches of rain.

That’s fucking unreal. Fucking. Unreal.

It is, and it’s a huge wake-up call for the petrochemical industry on the Texas gulf coast, and on into Lousiana.

The refineries that supply gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel, and the cracking plants that supply feedstock and finished products for the plastics industry (and there are literally thousands of these plants and supporting facilities between Corpus and New Orleans) were built because they had easy access to ports where ships and pipelines provided them raw feedstock to make their products.

They have billions of dollars in infrastructure in that swath of coastal land, and now all of them are at a much higher risk because of climate change.

You know who will eventually demand a carbon neutral electrical grid? ExxonMobil, Shell, Texaco, BP, and the rest of the Gulf Coast petrochemical industries. They aren’t idiots. They’ve run the numbers, and they are looking down a huge and increasingly lethal gun barrel to their profits.

This is the blessing and curse of capitalism, where the companies that have caused the problem in the first place eventually realize that their self-interest forces them to be part of the solution.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:48:48pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

My main thoroughfare (I-70) got covered in three feet of mud and dirt after *a few* inches of rain fell in a short amount of time some years back. The highway was closed for almost 72 hours.

Geology is fun!

Geology is relentless. You can try to engineer it, but it’s going to fuck you right up the ass in the end.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:53:09pm

re: #67 austin_blue

Geology is relentless. You can try to engineer it, but it’s going to fuck you right up the ass in the end.

My best friend, dude I’ve known since the second grade, is a geologist for the U.S. Department of Interior. We started as ski buddies.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2019 • 9:54:12pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

You know the moment that shit like this will become “too much”? It’ll be the very moment after a Democrat takes the oath of office. Before then, Donny could nuke L.A. and Lindsey Graham would hail is as a show of “strength.”

I always expect a certain amount of “it’s wrong when they do it” from both sides. Like, I know that is just part of the dance. But the run that the GOP has been on in the last decade and a half or so, is really unprecedented.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 10:05:30pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 10:12:14pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

The first time I heard this tune was on the radio. I was driving to Jackson Hole Mountain Resort on a 20 inch powder day. It snowed 20 more inches the next day. That next day *blew my mind.*

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Dread Pirate  Sep 19, 2019 • 10:14:07pm
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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2019 • 10:20:12pm

re: #68 teleskiguy

My best friend, dude I’ve known since the second grade, is a geologist for the U.S. Department of Interior. We started as ski buddies.

Well I was a working geologist for thirty years: oil and gas exploration, environmental clean-ups, emergency response. I know the dirt, and it’s not our friend. Fukushima in Japan was not an *accident*, it wasn’t an *event*, it was an eventuality that finally came to pass. The facility was not engineered to survive what was always a real possibility. They never imagined that it would happen.

That is climate change. It is a self-inflicted wound. It has been building since we started burning coal and oil and is now sitting in our laps, licking us like a leopard just before it rips our faces off. We can do what we can stop it, to mitigate it, and reverse it, or we can just say lah-di-da and wreck the only home we have.

Ten years, people, ten years. That’s all we’ve got to enact real plans until we start reaching tipping points, and the world goes gonzo.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 10:26:57pm

re: #73 austin_blue

Well I was a working geologist for thirty years: oil and gas exploration, environmental clean-ups, emergency response. I know the dirt, and it’s not our friend. Fukushima in Japan was not an *accident*, it wasn’t an *event*, it was an eventuality that finally came to pass. The facility was not engineered to survive what was always a real possibility. They never imagined that it would happen.

That is climate change. It is a self-inflicted wound. It has been building since we started burning coal and oil and is now sitting in our laps, licking us like a leopard just before it rips our faces off. We can do what we can stop it, to mitigate it, and reverse it, or we can just say lah-di-da and wreck the only home we have.

Ten years, people, ten years. That’s all we’ve got to enact real plans until we start reaching tipping points, and the world goes gonzo.

QUOTED FOR FUCKING TRUTH

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SteelPH  Sep 19, 2019 • 10:28:04pm

I can’t wait for Trump to declare that trichinosis is fake news.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2019 • 10:28:41pm

And that’s it, done for the night. Sweet dreams, all.

Maybe Drumpf will throw in the towel tonight.

And maybe monkeys will fly out of my ass.

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EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2019 • 10:29:54pm

re: #73 austin_blue

Well I was a working geologist for thirty years: oil and gas exploration, environmental clean-ups, emergency response. I know the dirt, and it’s not our friend. Fukushima in Japan was not an *accident*, it wasn’t an *event*, it was an eventuality that finally came to pass. The facility was not engineered to survive what was always a real possibility. They never imagined that it would happen.

That is climate change. It is a self-inflicted wound. It has been building since we started burning coal and oil and is now sitting in our laps, licking us like a leopard just before it rips our faces off. We can do what we can stop it, to mitigate it, and reverse it, or we can just say lah-di-da and wreck the only home we have.

Ten years, people, ten years. That’s all we’ve got to enact real plans until we start reaching tipping points, and the world goes gonzo.

Regrettably, the US will definitely be more part of the problem than part of the solution over this 10 year time frame, because there is no way in hell the GOP has its national level power broken soon enough.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 10:35:19pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 19, 2019 • 10:40:33pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2019 • 10:59:17pm

Very offensive metal music.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2019 • 11:48:31pm

re: #80 teleskiguy

Very offensive metal music.

looks like devil bunnies to me

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2019 • 11:51:00pm
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 20, 2019 • 12:53:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2019 • 12:55:33am

re: #83 Ace-o-aces

“I fell headlong into confirmation bias” should be The Federalist’s motto.

All abortions are bad, remember? Even rape, incest and ones that threaten the mother’s life.

Because God loves the Unborn more than the Born.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Sep 20, 2019 • 2:45:30am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s a little ironic that article is from the BBC, who broadcast this

for decades

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2019 • 2:51:09am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Looks like Trudeau is a goner…over…

Canada’s Justin Trudeau cannot say how often he wore blackface

Please don’t say that. Scheer’s a trump wannabe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2019 • 2:52:57am

re: #85 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

It’s a little ironic that article is from the BBC, who broadcast this

for decades

Look, somebody saw what happened in Virginia, it was a low blow but it worked, and thought to repeat it on Trudeau.

Blackface is another one of those cultural nuances that needs to be addressed, but nuance is dead in the poo-flinging match that modern political discourse has degenerated into.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2019 • 3:24:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2019 • 3:27:15am

U.S. Marine unit makes plans to hold annual ball at Trump’s Mar-A-Lago resort amid controversy over spending at Trump venues

You’d think that Trump could at least offer an employee discount…

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2019 • 4:24:06am

So…”Alienstock” is a thing.

And tens of people are in attendance!

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2019 • 4:25:10am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

U.S. Marine unit makes plans to hold annual ball at Trump’s Mar-A-Lago resort amid controversy over spending at Trump venues

You’d think that Trump could at least offer an employee discount…

Trump and discount never go in the same sentence. He likely inflated the price twice over. I mean, WE are paying for it, so suck as much money out of the treasury as possible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2019 • 4:25:11am

re: #90 MsJ

So…”Alienstock” is a thing.

I am sure that for most of these folks, it is all irony and performance art.

But you can never tell these days.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 20, 2019 • 4:26:13am

re: #91 MsJ

Trump and discount never go in the same sentence. He likely inflated the price twice over. I mean, WE are paying for it, so suck as much money out of the treasury as possible.

true, why should he do differently than any other military contractor?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 20, 2019 • 4:45:40am

re: #13 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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L. Ron Hubbard existed, so Scientology religion is true? Mohammad existed, so Islam religion is true? Smith existed, so Mormon religion is true? They all can’t be right, but they all could be wrong.

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2019 • 4:51:40am

The field continues to thin:

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 20, 2019 • 5:20:55am

re: #54 Belafon

I spent a little money on myself (~$300):

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I agree. There is a tavern just down from my office that still has a working machine in the bar area. Was my fav game in my video arcade days.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2019 • 5:24:12am

Wouldn’t that be ironic.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2019 • 5:27:51am

Man…America 2019.

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DangerMan  Sep 20, 2019 • 5:28:47am

re: #2 Targetpractice

It looks more and more like Trump tried to use military aid to Ukraine to extort them into assisting his campaign in destroying Joe Biden’s candidacy. And now that they’ve been caught, they’re moving quickly to the “Who cares?” stage where they argue that even if they did blatantly violate the law, nobody (who matters) got hurt and they’ve “made it right” by restoring the military aid, so he should be issued yet another mulligan and the matter dropped.

Right
It’s only a crime if you’re successful

Conspiracy? What’s that?

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Mike Lamb  Sep 20, 2019 • 5:30:32am

re: #83 Ace-o-aces

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Just need to get the Latin translation.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 20, 2019 • 5:32:16am

re: #83 Ace-o-aces

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The fact that these assholes are actually bringing ectopic pregnancies into the abortion debate is staggering to me. Talk about pulling back the mask in terms of the disregard they have for women.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 20, 2019 • 5:37:19am

re: #73 austin_blue

Well I was a working geologist for thirty years: oil and gas exploration, environmental clean-ups, emergency response. I know the dirt, and it’s not our friend. Fukushima in Japan was not an *accident*, it wasn’t an *event*, it was an eventuality that finally came to pass. The facility was not engineered to survive what was always a real possibility. They never imagined that it would happen.

That is climate change. It is a self-inflicted wound. It has been building since we started burning coal and oil and is now sitting in our laps, licking us like a leopard just before it rips our faces off. We can do what we can stop it, to mitigate it, and reverse it, or we can just say lah-di-da and wreck the only home we have.

Ten years, people, ten years. That’s all we’ve got to enact real plans until we start reaching tipping points, and the world goes gonzo.

All these brainwashed Xtians are going to get the shock of their lives when JC and his Sonshine Band pull a no show. They are absolutely convinced that the Holy Hoover Vacuum Cleaner is going to be switched on and they’re going to float up to Hay-Venn and leave us heathen Democrats here to suffer the tribulation…

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2019 • 5:41:12am
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plansbandc  Sep 20, 2019 • 5:46:12am

re: #54 Belafon

I want a “Crazy Climber” console.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 20, 2019 • 5:55:11am

I’m still in awe over just how f’n stupid this ass is!

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:01:59am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

DeBlasio has called it quits in his race for the WH. Aloofness and indifference are no way to run a campaign (or NYC), and he garnered no support. Good.

More of the MOE candidates should throw in the towel, and yeah, I’m looking at Williamson and Gabbard in particular. Those two lunatics don’t deserve any airtime for their noxious positions.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:03:10am

re: #105 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reminding everyone that he’s a sociopath and a misogynist? Yeah, no wonder he holds Trump in such esteem.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:09:38am

re: #106 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

DeBlasio has called it quits in his race for the WH. Aloofness and indifference are no way to run a campaign (or NYC), and he garnered no support. Good.

More of the MOE candidates should throw in the towel, and yeah, I’m looking at Williamson and Gabbard in particular. Those two lunatics don’t deserve any airtime for their noxious positions.

Gabbard has a completely different purpose - to be a spoiler. Nothing more. She will never throw in the towel.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:09:42am

re: #106 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

DeBlasio has called it quits in his race for the WH. Aloofness and indifference are no way to run a campaign (or NYC), and he garnered no support. Good.

More of the MOE candidates should throw in the towel, and yeah, I’m looking at Williamson and Gabbard in particular. Those two lunatics don’t deserve any airtime for their noxious positions.

I fully expect the Getting Republicans Elected Every November Party to nominate either one of those assholes to be this year’s Jill Stein!

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sagehen  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:09:53am

re: #102 Joe Bacon 🌹

All these brainwashed Xtians are going to get the shock of their lives when JC and his Sonshine Band pull a no show. They are absolutely convinced that the Holy Hoover Vacuum Cleaner is going to be switched on and they’re going to float up to Hay-Venn and leave us heathen Democrats here to suffer the tribulation…

Louis C.K. “If God Came Back”

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:11:19am

Trumpworld is threatening to withhold federal funds from Duke and UNC Chapel Hill because a course being offered isn’t sufficiently positive about Christianity and Judaism, and focuses on Islam.

Umm…. this is actually a free speech abuse - where the government is seeking to impose its religious views on an educational institution.

The Trump administration has threatened to withdraw federal funding for a Middle East Studies course jointly taught by Duke University and the University of North Carolina because it believes it is too positive in its depiction of Islam in comparison to its portrayal of Judaism and Christianity. The Department of Education said the consortium had failed to offer a “balance of perspectives” on the religions and ordered the universities to remake the course to provide a more “positive” portrayal of Judaism and Christianity or lose its federal funding. The consortium received $235,000 in federal grant money last year. There is “a considerable emphasis placed on the understanding the positive aspects of Islam, while there is an absolute absence of any similar focus on the positive aspects of Christianity, Judaism or any other religion or belief system in the Middle East,” the Department of Education said in its letter to the schools.

“In a rare instance of federal intervention in college course content, the department asserted that the universities’ Middle East program violated the standards of a federal program that awards funding to international studies and foreign language programs,” the New York Times reports. “The inquiry was part of a far-reaching investigation into the program by the department, which under Betsy DeVos, the education secretary, has become increasingly aggressive in going after perceived anti-Israel bias in higher education.”

It’s rare until Trumpworld, which wants to remind everyone that Christianity is paramount in the US, and Islam is bad. They throw Judaism in for “balance” but make no mistake, this is about Trumpworld pushing their religious worldview to the exclusion of all others.

The program doesn’t violate any standards. It’s just more bulkshit from DeVos and the Christian fundamentalists.

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Jay C  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:11:54am

re: #105 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m still in awe over just how f’n stupid this ass is!

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Awesome indeed.

Can Jacob Wohl find a locking briefcase he can lock his head into? And then lose the key?

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:19:52am

I’ve thought about this as well:

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DangerMan  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:20:44am
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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:24:33am
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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:25:25am

re: #113 Belafon

It’s hard to do from prison, which is where he should be after indictment on obstruction of justice, financial crimes, and being the unindicted coconspirator in the Cohen case (and that’s not counting all the criminal acts from this week alone).

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DangerMan  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:27:02am

re: #67 austin_blue

Geology is relentless. You can try to engineer it, but it’s going to fuck you right up the ass in the end.

Thinking you’re in control is an illusion
Permanence is an illusion

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:28:46am

re: #101 Mike Lamb

The fact that these assholes are actually bringing ectopic pregnancies into the abortion debate is staggering to me. Talk about pulling back the mask in terms of the disregard they have for women.

It’s the usual “muddying the water” BS to justify draconian policies, combined with “doctors are always playing CYA” BS for flavoring. Since the overall goal of wingnuts is a total ban on abortions of any kind, the “centrist” position that abortions be kept legal in cases of incest and medical necessity have to be kneecapped. Enter articles like these where you get the “baffle them with bullshit” approach of arguing that doctors are only performing abortions in the case of ectopic pregnancies to avoid being sued, rather than because early intervention is the only sure means of preventing a woman from dying due to internal bleeding.

As we’ve seen in other countries, the result is that even in cases where “medical necessity” is an exemption under abortion bans, hospitals are so scared of being held criminally liable that they gamble on risk “wait and see” approaches in the hopes that they can convince a prosecutor that they had “no choice.”

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DangerMan  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:31:10am

re: #83 Ace-o-aces

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“Preborn” is pretzel twisting assininity

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:32:02am

re: #83 Ace-o-aces

aceoaces
@aceoaces
“I fell headlong into confirmation bias” should be The Federalist’s motto.

2:50 AM - Sep 20, 2019

It’s not confirmation bias; it’s an agenda that The Federalist promotes and it’s only when the pushback is overwhelming and hostile that they reconsider.

Small point: Besides the author’s insistence on relying only on anti-choice doctors for her arguments, it’s annoying to see her insistence on using “he” for the fetus. Yes, that was the grammatical convention foisted on us decades ago, but it has become jarring to see its continued use by conservatives because of their refusal to accept change in anything, including language, due to their continued view that “male” is the standard (especially white Christian males) and anything else is an aberration.

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DangerMan  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:33:12am

re: #95 Targetpractice

The field continues to thin:

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De Blasio was running for president? Who knew?

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:33:15am

re: #115 lawhawk

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Ukraine basically putting Trump on the spot, as he has (through Rudy) been trying to get them to start an investigation without public provocation in the hopes that it could be sold to the press as their looking into “corruption” rather than what it really is: Digging for any “dirt” on the Bidens that they can find.

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jeffreyw  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:35:07am

Good morning!

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:45:57am

re: #123 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

I think the squirrels stuck somthing in front of your camera so you can’t see what’s going on at the feeders.

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DangerMan  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:46:05am

re: #123 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

That’s some camera you got there

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:52:27am
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William Lewis  Sep 20, 2019 • 6:52:35am

re: #54 Belafon

I spent a little money on myself (~$300):

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Cool. Not a video game but an old computer for me:

233 mhz DEC Alpha with 384mb ram, a big disk adapted down, and a whole 8 mb video card :) A screamer for 1995. My plan is to run Digital Tru64 5.1B Unix on it so I can use Open Genera 2 (a LISP system) on that. It’ll be about $500 spent on a $150 computer by the time I’m done ;)

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unproven innocence  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:04:15am

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Preview:

Unbelievable | Official Trailer | Netflix

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jeffreyw  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:07:21am

re: #124 Belafon

re: #125 DangerMan

That’s a painting a chat-room friend brought back one year from Belize, she emailed a photo of it. I’ve always liked it.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:22:02am

A couple days back, I posted about the South Korean authorities finding the identity of the Hwaseong Serial Killer. His name has been officially released by the police there.

Between 1986 and 1991 a record number of police officers were mobilised to try to find the person who raped and murdered women in rural parts of Hwaseong, south of the capital, Seoul.

They investigated 21,000 individuals and compared the fingerprints of about 20,000 more without success, and the case inspired South Korean filmmaker Bong Joon-ho’s 2003 box office hit Memories of Murder.

But using the latest forensic techniques to retrieve DNA, officers have identified Lee Chun-jae, 56, as a suspect in at least three of the killings, said Ban Gi-soo of the Gyeonggi Nambu provincial police agency.

Samples collected from evidence, including a victim’s underwear, matched Lee’s, the police said.

Lee is serving a life sentence for raping and murdering his sister-in-law in 1994. He denies involvement in the Hwaseong murders and the 25-year statute of limitations has expired, meaning he will not be prosecuted, police added.

theguardian.com

The statute of limitations ran out in 2006, but at the very least, it now seems the mystery has been solved.

Personally, I hope that one of these days in the not-too-distant future, we’ll finally know who the Zodiac Killer was. Even if he’s deceased, it’d be nice to finally have a name, not a moniker.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:22:39am

re: #117 DangerMan

Around my house we call that “Mother Nature shall eat you and not even burp, puny human.”

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rhuarc  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:31:43am

re: #113 Belafon

I’ve thought about this as well:

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I think everything of his and his immediately family will be bugged 6 ways to Sunday just for this reason. They won’t be able to say one word in any format without being listened to by the IC.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:32:45am

re: #121 DangerMan

Who?!

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carey94tt  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:34:49am

re: #12 teleskiguy

One of my favorites from Tool.

I could sure use a vacation from this bullshit three ring circus side show. Amen.

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DangerMan  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:36:40am

re: #133 GlutenFreeJesus

Who?!

;-)

i read in comments this morning:

- a poll said 110% of nyc residents didnt want him to run

- another poll said he had 0% support in nyc. must have been tough to face his wife and mother

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:39:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:39:53am
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:40:01am

re: #73 austin_blue

Well I was a working geologist for thirty years: oil and gas exploration, environmental clean-ups, emergency response. I know the dirt, and it’s not our friend. Fukushima in Japan was not an *accident*, it wasn’t an *event*, it was an eventuality that finally came to pass. The facility was not engineered to survive what was always a real possibility. They never imagined that it would happen.

That is climate change. It is a self-inflicted wound. It has been building since we started burning coal and oil and is now sitting in our laps, licking us like a leopard just before it rips our faces off. We can do what we can stop it, to mitigate it, and reverse it, or we can just say lah-di-da and wreck the only home we have.

Ten years, people, ten years. That’s all we’ve got to enact real plans until we start reaching tipping points, and the world goes gonzo.

I think we already passed that point. 6th mass extinction is upon us.

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:47:43am

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well yeah, but the whistleblower may have voted for Hillary, so we can’t trust anything he says!

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2019 • 7:59:33am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Looks like Trudeau is a goner…over…

Canada’s Justin Trudeau cannot say how often he wore blackface

I can not possibly vote for someone who once wore a Hitler costume to a Halloween party!

*Votes for actual Hitler*

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:01:31am

re: #138 Scottish Dragon

I think we already passed that point. 6th mass extinction is upon us.

And, hopefully whatever self-indulgent species become ‘master’ won’t be such a fuck-up. I think upon the search for Earth in the reboot of Battlestar Galactica and their reaction when they did find the smoldering ruin that is/was Earth/their goal. “Holy shit, they really fucked up. Let’s move on, this place is hosed.”

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:10:09am

re: #141 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And, hopefully whatever self-indulgent species become ‘master’ won’t be such a fuck-up. I think upon the search for Earth in the reboot of Battlestar Galactica and their reaction when they did find the smoldering ruin that is/was Earth/their goal. “Holy shit, they really fucked up. Let’s move on, this place is hosed.”

That episode was devastating.

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sagehen  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:12:51am

So every time Trump says “[name] did [wrong thing], but the media never looks into that because he’s a Democrat and the media is all partisan”….

Does nobody ever point out that Fox is big wealthy media, they have people on their staff they insist are journalists… why aren’t they looking into it if it’s so “obvious”?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:14:04am

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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:16:00am

re: #140 The Pie Overlord!

VB—ran into a totally unfamiliar kashrut concept on I 40, in Oklahoma (I think). A roadside business was dedicated to tanker-truck washout, including food grade liquid carriers. Its big billboard advertised kosher approval.

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:17:51am

re: #143 sagehen

So every time Trump says “[name] did [wrong thing], but the media never looks into that because he’s a Democrat and the media is all partisan”….

Does nobody ever point out that Fox is big wealthy media, they have people on their staff they insist are journalists… why aren’t they looking into it if it’s so “obvious”?

Because he’s trying desperately to change the subject to one that benefits him, namely the idea that Biden’s son engaged in corrupt acts in Ukraine that warrant investigation. It’s the same reason he constantly talked about how the media “wasn’t talking about” Hillary emails or the Clinton Foundation, only to then turn the stories they did run into “proof” that she was corrupt and dishonest.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:18:27am

The GOP projects like IMAX incessantly. This is more of that. When they complain that X is doing something wrong/illegal/anti-Semitic, racist, misogynist, the odds are that the person making the complaint has actually done the bad thing, and the target X hasn’t done any such thing.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:19:41am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

Probably to ensure that the entire food supply chain maintains kosher certifications (that you’re not putting nonkosher liquids in to a kosher carrier (or mixing meat and dairy products, etc.)

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Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:21:35am

Basically, by whining that “the media” isn’t looking into fictional allegations of corruption by the Bidens, Donny is acting like the stereotypical bully who whines that he’s being punished when other kids are doing bad things and the teacher isn’t punishing them.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:24:48am

re: #148 lawhawk

Probably to ensure that the entire food supply chain maintains kosher certifications (that you’re not putting nonkosher liquids in to a kosher carrier (or mixing meat and dairy products, etc.)

Yes—makes perfect sense, when you think of it. Not the sort of thing you expect along the road in OK.

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:31:40am
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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:32:57am

Owens works for/is associated with Prager U, which is not an accredited university, but still holds itself out as a “university”. The entity is a nonprofit based in Maryland. Maryland officials could go after Prager the same way NY officials did in shutting down Trump’s scam school.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:34:03am

re: #152 lawhawk

Owens works for/is associated with Prager U, which is not an accredited university, but still holds itself out as a “university”. The entity is a nonprofit based in Maryland. Maryland officials could go after Prager the same way NY officials did in shutting down Trump’s scam school.

Isn’t Prager U a YouTube channel? That’s what I read on the Friendly Atheist.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:34:25am

re: #152 lawhawk

Owens works for/is associated with Prager U, which is not an accredited university, but still holds itself out as a “university”. The entity is a nonprofit based in Maryland. Maryland officials could go after Prager the same way NY officials did in shutting down Trump’s scam school.

Could they go after Prager U as a diploma mill?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:34:57am
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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:37:32am

re: #154 Dr Lizardo

Could they go after Prager U as a diploma mill?

It doesn’t offer degrees, so it doesn’t rank as a diploma mill. But it dilutes the meaning of the term university, which has specific connotations and legal meaning.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:38:08am

The America that voted for Trump was formed in the crucible of religion-based gas-lighting long before Trump ran for office using the same techniques:

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lawhawk  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:44:25am
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DangerMan  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:46:21am

re: #139 Targetpractice

Well yeah, but the whistleblower may have voted for Hillary, so we can’t trust anything he says!

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even less if it’s a ‘she’

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John Hughes  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:46:40am

re: #66 austin_blue

They have billions of dollars in infrastructure in that swath of coastal land, and now all of them are at a much higher risk because of climate change.

So what. All those billions of dollars of infrastructure must be scrapped wherever they’re installed. We cannot afford to keep them in use.

All money invested in fossil fuel extraction will be lost. Or we will be lost.

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John Hughes  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:49:33am

re: #77 EPR-radar

Regrettably, the US will definitely be more part of the problem than part of the solution over this 10 year time frame, because there is no way in hell the GOP has its national level power broken soon enough.

America has to hope that the solution for our problems is not the one in the last few pages of Brunner’s The Sheep Look Up.

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danarchy  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:50:49am

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

A couple days back, I posted about the South Korean authorities finding the identity of the Hwaseong Serial Killer. His name has been officially released by the police there.

theguardian.com

The statute of limitations ran out in 2006, but at the very least, it now seems the mystery has been solved.

Personally, I hope that one of these days in the not-too-distant future, we’ll finally know who the Zodiac Killer was. Even if he’s deceased, it’d be nice to finally have a name, not a moniker.

First off, why the heck is there a statute of limitations on murder, especially serial murder. It would be nice to get an identity on the Zodiac, but it is not going to be easy. He didn’t leave DNA at any of the crime scenes. They got a partial profile from the back of the stamps he used to mail his ciphers, but that was already submitted for a genealogical search almost a year ago and since it is a partial they were not hopeful.

He did send a piece of one of the victim’s shirts to a newspaper, so maybe if he touched that they can use new tech to pull touch DNA from it? Wouldn’t count on it though.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:53:17am

The only good thing about my Mac crashing is that doing a fresh OSX install results in a cleaner and faster working system.

I’ve done the Migration Assistant thing for years (bringing in old settings) and that probably automatically copied over 10 year old settings that were bogging things down.

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retired cynic  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:53:47am

The Gun Is Smoking, But Don’t Count on It Being the Murder Weapon

Charlie Pierce says don’t expect consequences to the Ukrainian “thing.” He compares it to the Iran-Contra scandal. It’s a very depressing column.

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sagehen  Sep 20, 2019 • 8:55:16am

re: #147 lawhawk

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The GOP projects like IMAX incessantly. This is more of that. When they complain that X is doing something wrong/illegal/anti-Semitic, racist, misogynist, the odds are that the person making the complaint has actually done the bad thing, and the target X hasn’t done any such thing.

Or they’ve both done it, but IOKIYAR.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:02:12am

re: #157 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

To be fair, there are millions of people of color who are fervent Christians but do not support or vote for Republicans. It’s White Evangelicals and Conservative Christians who support Trump.

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retired cynic  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:03:30am

Francis Bacon’s Preserved Art Studio
on Atlas Obscura: for Joe!

The studio where he worked was as chaotic as you’d expect, and it’s been preserved for visitors to come and see.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:13:03am

re: #164 retired cynic

The Gun Is Smoking, But Don’t Count on It Being the Murder Weapon

Charlie Pierce says don’t expect consequences to the Ukrainian “thing.” He compares it to the Iran-Contra scandal. It’s a very depressing column.

At this point I am convinced only the voters can bring Trump down.

Everyone else seems more than content to just let him do whatever.

Expect mass GOP defections from the Trump train after he leaves office.

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John Hughes  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:13:20am

re: #83 Ace-o-aces

She is still unable to say that the choices are:

1. remove the “baby”, “killing” it and saving the mother.
2. do nothing. The “baby” certainly “dies”, the mother probably dies.

(Scare quotes above because there is no “baby” involved and since it has no chance of living talking about its “death” is silly).

All of her nonsense about “bad indirect outcomes” is a waste of breath. The “baby” is already “dead”.

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John Hughes  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:17:11am

re: #85 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

It’s a little ironic that article is from the BBC, who broadcast [ the black and white minstrels show ]

for decades

1958 - 1978.

It was truly a thing of horror.

When was Trudeau (born 1971) putting on the blackface?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:17:19am

re: #162 danarchy

Czech Republic has a statute of limitations on homicide as well - it’s 20 years here.

As far as the Zodiac goes, yeah, that may well be a mystery for all time, much like Jack the Ripper; lots of speculation, but nothing concrete.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:18:33am

re: #164 retired cynic

The Gun Is Smoking, But Don’t Count on It Being the Murder Weapon

Charlie Pierce says don’t expect consequences to the Ukrainian “thing.” He compares it to the Iran-Contra scandal. It’s a very depressing column.

The GOP crime organization will readily dismiss Republican acts of extortion committed against our allies. Their behavior predated Trump and will continue long afterwards if they don’t suffer repercussions — and they won’t. The GOP march in lockstep to assure the destruction of our democracy.

It is only if the whistle-blower reported a Trump deference to Putin or a Trump support of the Khashoggi assassination that there might be a possibility that his behavior would be a step too far even for the GOP.

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sagehen  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:20:45am

re: #170 John Hughes

1958 - 1978.

It was truly a thing of horror.

When was Trudeau (born 1971) putting on the blackface?

Almost 20 years ago; he was a teacher at the school.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:24:20am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Looks like Trudeau is a goner…over…

Canada’s Justin Trudeau cannot say how often he wore blackface

Why? Trudeau is not a racist. He has been exemplary when it comes to the treatment of refugees (even meeting them at airports) and I’ve yet to hear of any racist incidents in his past. Wearing blackface is wrong but he has apologized and these incidents are well in his past. I hope Canadians aren’t silly enough to ditch him for Scheer who sounds like an actual racist and xenophobe.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:28:23am

re: #174 Patricia Kayden

True. However, Trudeau is also saddled by the legacy of his father who was one of the more polarizing Prime Ministers we’ve ever had. There are many Canadians who simply refuse to vote for a Trudeau. Justin was also tainted by a scandal earlier this year (google “SNC Lavalin” for more on that) which soured some Canadians on him.

That said there are also plenty of us who realize Andrew Scheer is an asshole, so we’ll see what happens.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:30:10am
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:31:11am

Oh dear…

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:32:46am

re: #169 John Hughes

She is still unable to say that the choices are:

1. remove the “baby”, “killing” it and saving the mother.
2. do nothing. The “baby” certainly “dies”, the mother probably dies.

(Scare quotes above because there is no “baby” involved and since it has no chance of living talking about its “death” is silly).

All of her nonsense about “bad indirect outcomes” is a waste of breath. The “baby” is already “dead”.

She didn’t want to use the term “abortion” to describe the procedure because that would suggest that there might be circumstances when such a procedure is necessary. My standard position: Anyone who writes for the Federalist is totally dishonest and with no moral compass.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:35:26am

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

True. However, Trudeau is also saddled by the legacy of his father who was one of the more polarizing Prime Ministers we’ve ever had. There are many Canadians who simply refuse to vote for a Trudeau. Justin was also tainted by a scandal earlier this year (google “SNC Lavalin” for more on that) which soured some Canadians on him.

That said there are also plenty of us who realize Andrew Scheer is an asshole, so we’ll see what happens.

The senior Trudeau was a much loved PM.

The SNC Lavalin scandal originated with the Harper government and, if the Liberals had one ounce of intelligence, they would have held hearings and get on record who wanted the largest firm in Quebec (not to mention Canada on the whole) to go under (for 10 years, which might as well have been permanent) because there would literally be not one conservative MP would would have gone on record to do that. Not one. (nor would there have been many Liberals who would go on the record for that, because that would guarantee that the party would never, ever win any seats in Quebec again. Ever.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:39:21am

re: #176 Scottish Dragon

His article is full of strawmen. Eric son of Erick has long been nothing more than a propaganda machine.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:39:59am

re: #174 Patricia Kayden

Why? Trudeau is not a racist. He has been exemplary when it comes to the treatment of refugees (even meeting them at airports) and I’ve yet to hear of any racist incidents in his past. Wearing blackface is wrong but he has apologized and these incidents are well in his past. I hope Canadians aren’t silly enough to ditch him for Scheer who sounds like an actual racist and xenophobe.

I have never seen a version of the Aladdin story in which he was any sort of African, thus I have trouble with the “blackface” bit. (Is it still wrong when a Disney actor does it?)

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:45:39am

re: #181 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

I have never seen a version of the Alladin story in which he was any sort of African, thus I have trouble with the “blackface” bit. (Is it still wrong when a Disney actor does it?)

Not that I am sticking up for his stupidity or anything, but I do not think this was blackface…it was tan face (to emulate middle eastern color). Not saying its any better but it is different in terms of what blackface is and the racist history it brings up.

This is just what I read.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:48:04am

re: #145 Decatur Deb

VB—ran into a totally unfamiliar kashrut concept on I 40, in Oklahoma (I think). A roadside business was dedicated to tanker-truck washout, including food grade liquid carriers. Its big billboard advertised kosher approval.

Tanker trucks are used to transport milk. When my son worked at the Ontario dairy, the tankers all carried the COR (Canadian kashrut logo)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:49:48am

re: #182 MsJ

Not that I am sticking up for his stupidity or anything, but I do not think this was blackface…it was tan face (to emulate middle eastern color). Not saying its any better but it is different in terms of what blackface is and the racist history it brings up.

This is just what I read.

I agree with this.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:51:58am

re: #182 MsJ

Not that I am sticking up for his stupidity or anything, but I do not think this was blackface…it was tan face (to emulate middle eastern color). Not saying its any better but it is different in terms of what blackface is and the racist history it brings up.

This is just what I read.

Sir Laurence Olivier as “Othello”

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:54:15am

re: #182 MsJ

Not that I am sticking up for his stupidity or anything, but I do not think this was blackface…it was tan face (to emulate middle eastern color). Not saying its any better but it is different in terms of what blackface is and the racist history it brings up.

This is just what I read.

I’ll go further. I am simply bemused by the enormous scandal over his adding makeup to resemble a deeply tanned white (Caucasian) cartoon character.

Of course the people trying to hype this up are probably white supremacists who don’t see any difference between “Arabs” and Africans. (Quotation marks because the provenance of the 1000 nights suggests that Aladdin was Persian — i.e. one of the original Aryans).

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 20, 2019 • 9:58:28am

re: #37 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember seeing this when it was shown on Glen Campbell’s show. Makes me wish those classic variety shows were on DVD or streaming. Production folks tell me the main thing stopping shows like Glen Campbell, Danny Kaye, Steve Allen and Judy Garland (among others) from going on streaming or DVD are the music clearances.

Dude. You have no idea.

Just trying to get the clearance from the Baha Men for “Who let the dogs out” for use in the Scooby-Doo movie ate up my roommate’s life back in the early 2000s.

The labels got desperate for money, and the one source left was Publishing. Used to be the bastard stepchild that nobody gave a shit about, now it’s steady hard cash, so they are milking the living hell out of their remaining cow.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:03:32am

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

True. However, Trudeau is also saddled by the legacy of his father who was one of the more polarizing Prime Ministers we’ve ever had. There are many Canadians who simply refuse to vote for a Trudeau. Justin was also tainted by a scandal earlier this year (google “SNC Lavalin” for more on that) which soured some Canadians on him.

That said there are also plenty of us who realize Andrew Scheer is an asshole, so we’ll see what happens.

I’m certainly glad we saddle children with the legacy of their parents. It makes it easy to brush off people without having to acknowledge them on their own merits.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:08:31am

re: #187 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Dude. You have no idea.

Just trying to get the clearance from the Baha Men for “Who let the dogs out” for use in the Scooby-Doo movie ate up my roommate’s life back in the early 2000s.

The labels got desperate for money, and the one source left was Publishing. Used to be the bastard stepchild that nobody gave a shit about, now it’s steady hard cash, so they are milking the living hell out of their remaining cow.

Oh, I’ve heard from Sylvia Kaye and Joey Luft among others about how they can’t get the music clearances to get the Danny Kaye and Judy Garland shows on DVD or streaming. Shout ran into a stone wall with the clearances when putting out their Ernie Kovacs DVD set so they cut the songs out. Even the Tonight Show theme was cut from Ernie’s DVD set…

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sagehen  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:19:48am

re: #182 MsJ

Not that I am sticking up for his stupidity or anything, but I do not think this was blackface…it was tan face (to emulate middle eastern color). Not saying its any better but it is different in terms of what blackface is and the racist history it brings up.

This is just what I read.

He also admitted to a blackface episode, when he was a teenager. (no photos have been produced, but presumably he was worried they might be).

ETA: singing “Day-O” in costume as Belafonte, for a school talent show.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:23:24am
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Teukka  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:29:12am
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gocart mozart  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:30:33am

re: #176 Scottish Dragon

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:34:36am

re: #193 gocart mozart

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I reported that prick’s threat knowing full well that @jack won’t lift a finger…

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William Lewis  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:38:15am

re: #193 gocart mozart

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If they try that shit again, when we get done defeating them again, we need to deal with them such that they look at the English response to the Jacobite rebellion as generous.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:40:57am

OMG the comments are pure gold…

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:44:13am

Adam L. Silverman would like everyone to understand that the Whistleblower Protection Act doesn’t actually protect whistleblowers in the intelligence community:

At this point, if they haven’t done so already, the Intelligence official or officer who made the complaint and his or her attorneys should have plans in place to both mitigate potential retaliatory legal action the administration might take and to safeguard her or his life and that of his or her family. The reason these actions are necessary is because the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act DOES NOT ACTUALLY PROTECT WHISTLEBLOWERS! Ken McClanahan, an attorney specializing in national security law, classification, and clearance provides a handy explainer at Just Security.

What is the ICWPA?

The ICWPA holds the dubious distinction of being the only “Whistleblower Protection Act” that doesn’t actually include any whistleblower protections. To summarize the law’s extensive history, I’ll say: It originally was intended to provide protections for national security whistleblowers who wanted to go to Congress, but was watered down in the final iteration due to separation of powers objections from the executive branch. While keeping the original - and misleading - name, the final law only really established a mechanism for Intelligence Community whistleblowers to forward a complaint to the congressional intelligence committees by way of an inspector general. It is a breakdown in this process that Schiff is flagging.

What is the ICWPA process?

Simply speaking, if a whistleblower working for an Intelligence Community agency wants to bring something to the attention of the congressional intelligence committees, they must write up a complaint and give it to either their agency’s inspector general or the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG), specifically stating that it is an ICWPA complaint. The ICIG then has 14 days to decide if the complaint pertains to an “urgent concern” and if it is credible.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:52:02am

re: #157 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The America that voted for Trump was formed in the crucible of religion-based gas-lighting long before Trump ran for office using the same techniques:

The argument I heard on the radio yesterday while scanning through stations was this: It’s the fact that everything works so awesomely well that proves that there’s a god.

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DangerMan  Sep 20, 2019 • 10:57:02am

re: #198 Belafon

The argument I heard on the radio yesterday while scanning through stations was this: It’s the fact that everything works so awesomely well that proves that there’s a god.

“everything works” can be explained without having to inject a god in the proof

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:00:38am

re: #199 DangerMan

“everything works” can be explained without having to inject a god in the proof

I know, but it wasn’t a proof this guy was after. He already knew there was a god.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:02:23am
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:05:29am

re: #198 Belafon

The argument I heard on the radio yesterday while scanning through stations was this: It’s the fact that everything works so awesomely well that proves that there’s a god.

Now that’s a laugh. I would have the same answer for them as I have for the “Intelligent design” shit. I was born with a malformed aortic valve (that should have killed me by the time I was 10 as it had for so many others, if it hadn’t been for the great doctors that kept me alive), so for me that designer is shit for brains then.

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DangerMan  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:08:19am

re: #200 Belafon

I know, but it wasn’t a proof this guy was after. He already knew there was a god.

ah
missed that part

there’s only two ways he ‘knows’

somebody told him or divine inspiration

the first one is problematic - how did that person know? and before him and, ad infinito backwards

if the second, he’s gonna have to explain that because that would make him rather ‘special’

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:08:50am

JFC this is the babbling gibberish of a senile old idiot

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:10:03am

Dude is a professor of physics, but also an IDiot:

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:10:31am

NOBODY SAYS “TIPPY TOP” UNLESS THEY ARE IN A PRESCHOOL.

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MsJ  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:11:39am

Damn…just saw that new midnight green iPhone 11 Pro and I am drooling.

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Belafon  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:13:34am

re: #207 MsJ

Damn…just saw that new midnight green iPhone 11 Pro and I am drooling.

I’ve seen the image of the cameras on the back, and my thought is that the Matrix got the robot design correct.

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DangerMan  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:13:48am

re: #204 The Pie Overlord!

JFC this is the babbling gibberish of a senile old idiot

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its the way he talks about everything
it’s all bullshit because he doesnt have a clue about any of it
no grasp of the general, no knowledge of the specifics

a stupid/ignorant person trying to sound smart

unfortunately there’s 30-40% of this country that seems just as ignorant as he is
they don’t have to wherewithal to engage the bullshit detector

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:16:21am

re: #207 MsJ

Damn…just saw that new midnight green iPhone 11 Pro and I am drooling.

I currently have a 7; my green iPhone 11 is on order from my provider.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:20:14am

I think the red iPhone11 looks pretty cool!

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EPR-radar  Sep 20, 2019 • 11:32:15am

re: #202 Eventual Carrion

Now that’s a laugh. I would have the same answer for them as I have for the “Intelligent design” shit. I was born with a malformed aortic valve (that should have killed me by the time I was 10 as it had for so many others, if it hadn’t been for the great doctors that kept me alive), so for me that designer is shit for brains then.

The intelligent design crowd has its fair share of middle aged and older men. How these people can believe in intelligent design of the human prostate is beyond comprehension.


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