Master Drummer Tommy Emmanuel Meets Master Guitarist Tommy Emmanuel: “Drums/Mombasa” (Live)

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This video is part of the “Tommy Emmanuel – Center Stage” DVD which was filmed at the Big Room at the Sierra Nevada Brewery in Chico, CA. Filmed and Directed by Peter Berkow.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2019 • 7:58:33pm
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b.d.  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:02:36pm

I guess I never expected Tommy to have an accent?
Great clip Charles.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:14:26pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:19:12pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

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I’m surprised that asshole didn’t link the Thunbergs to Comet Pizza because the Qwazy Qbots are stupid enough to believe any lie they are fed by their Russian puppet masters!

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Mescalero09  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:27:36pm

Tommy Emmanuel has been, will be, and is a magician.
And he makes it look effortless. Like rolling a ball off a flat table.

Aldo Nova with a very young Tommy Emmanuel 1987 on a rooftop filmed by Aldo Nova

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:32:52pm

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:35:05pm

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:36:32pm

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b.d.  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:38:23pm

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:38:34pm

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Dread Pirate  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:40:02pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:42:28pm

My next UM show will be No. 69.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:46:07pm

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:50:40pm

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

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re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

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A Mom Anon  Sep 21, 2019 • 8:54:20pm

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William Lewis  Sep 21, 2019 • 9:04:00pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

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My next UM show will be No. 69.

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X & John Melencamp - both three times. Plus 1 John Doe solo tour.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2019 • 9:15:42pm

The meme that keeps on giving.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2019 • 9:18:07pm

re: #17 William Lewis

X & John Melencamp - both three times. Plus 1 John Doe solo tour.

I’ve been spoiled-ass rotten when it comes to live music. Throughout my 20s I saw four, maybe five live music performances every week. It helps to work in a prominent music venue at the bottom of a world class ski area.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2019 • 9:20:27pm

I was supposed to see Ol’ Dirty Bastard at a nightclub next door from where I worked at the time, my salad days in Steamboat Springs, CO. Alas, that didn’t happen. He died the day before the show.

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2019 • 9:23:34pm

re: #6 The Pie Overlord!

OH HAI LIZARDIA!

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2019 • 9:27:15pm

I think I’m in love.

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2019 • 9:28:47pm

re: #11 Dread Pirate

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I don’t know why they were confused. They were being blackmailed by a US President over a military aid package, already approved by, and funded by Congress, that he was suspending until the Ukes gave him intel on a political rival. Simple enough, isn’t it?

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2019 • 9:36:08pm

re: #22 teleskiguy

I think I’m in love.

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Well, she is a lovely, intelligent human being. I don’t agree with every position she takes, but I bet it would be killer bee to sit down with her over a bottle of wine and just throw ideas back and forth (says the now-old man who was asked to join MENSA when he was 14 years old and thinks he might-could keep up with someone who is as smart as she is in an honest discussion. Maybe yes, maybe no).

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2019 • 9:42:01pm

re: #24 austin_blue

I’m not 100% in agreement with her. But she is a firecracker and clearly DGAF.

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Citizen K  Sep 21, 2019 • 9:48:01pm

re: #24 austin_blue

Well, she is a lovely, intelligent human being. I don’t agree with every position she takes, but I bet it would be killer bee to sit down with her over a bottle of wine and just throw ideas back and forth (says the now-old man who was asked to join MENSA when he was 14 years old and thinks he might-could keep up with someone who is as smart as she is in an honest discussion. Maybe yes, maybe no).

re: #25 teleskiguy

I’m not 100% in agreement with her. But she is a firecracker and clearly DGAF.

If nothing else, she’s of a class that we don’t seem to have much of in the leaders of the Dem party: outspoken and willing to take the fight directly to the GOP, rather than trying to fight on the field of civility.

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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2019 • 9:49:24pm

Dude. Ick.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 21, 2019 • 10:13:17pm

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BigPapa  Sep 21, 2019 • 10:13:53pm

Tommy is a madman. Always brings a smile to my face.

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2019 • 10:18:08pm

re: #26 Citizen K

If nothing else, she’s of a class that we don’t seem to have much of in the leaders of the Dem party: outspoken and willing to take the fight directly to the GOP, rather than trying to fight on the field of civility.

Well that’s exactly it, isn’t it? They have cast civility off like a cicada’s shell, haven’t they?

She has been cast by the POTUS as an enemy of the state, and she has embraced it and jumped right into his grill.

It drives him nuts, because not one, not one single person in the WH, NOONE treats him that way.

Dog bless her. Would that the rest of the Democrats pushed back as hard as she does. Her testicular fortitude, (to hijack a wildly inappropriate term), is greater than the leaders of the House, and those worthies need to realize that that is the only successful way forward. If you want to beat this thug in the WH, you’ve got to slug him in the mouth. Every. Single. Day.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Sep 21, 2019 • 10:33:21pm

re: #28 Joe Bacon 🌹

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2019 • 10:37:52pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 21, 2019 • 10:42:13pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

Hot tubs.

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2019 • 10:43:03pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

Hot tubs.

Jizz receptacles.

Ick.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 21, 2019 • 10:45:06pm

That was it?

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 21, 2019 • 10:46:57pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

Hot tubs.

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2019 • 10:47:50pm

re: #35 Dave In Austin

That was it?

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Frankly, my dear, that is kinda funny.

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retired cynic  Sep 21, 2019 • 10:55:58pm

re: #12 teleskiguy

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My next UM show will be No. 69.

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I just got back from the local bar up the road, listening to my “adopted” son and his group play. They rocked the building off its foundations, and left the dancers begging for more. I’ve heard him a lot, in a number of different groups. He is a drummer that makes people want to dance.

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2019 • 11:10:15pm

re: #38 retired cynic

I just got back from the local bar up the road, listening to my “adopted” son and his group play. They rocked the building off its foundations, and left the dancers begging for more. I’ve heard him a lot, in a number of different groups. He is a drummer that makes people want to dance.

You do know what they call a drummer in a three-piece suit?

The Defendant.

And what they call a drummer who breaks up with his girlfriend?

Homeless.

I’m here all week! Try the veal and be sure to overtip the waitstaff. They won’t spit in your food tomorrow.

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retired cynic  Sep 21, 2019 • 11:11:14pm

re: #39 austin_blue

shakes finger… now, now!

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retired cynic  Sep 21, 2019 • 11:22:43pm

re: #38 retired cynic

I also got to see his daughter and granddaughter, so that made the evening even more special for me.

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austin_blue  Sep 21, 2019 • 11:28:48pm

And it’s late. Sweet scaly dreams.

Liverpool at Chelsea tomorrow at Stanford Bridge. I’ll be watching it on Univision (open non-cable broadcast) because NBC is putting it on their cable network. Stupid fuckwits.

The Ukrainian crisis panic at the WH is spinning up to around 15,000 rpm. The general response to it as abba-da-abba-da-abba. They’ve got nothing. POTUS has been caught Dead Bang. It’s as impeachable as a Watergate cover up, but unless the Congressional leadership grows a spine and a set of stones, it’ll disappear by Wednesday, as a new outrage jumps out of the fever swamp of this hellish chaos of an organization supposedly running our country.

Tiny Tim should have said this:

God help us, every one.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 21, 2019 • 11:36:39pm

Look at how much sucking up to Trump paid in 2018.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 21, 2019 • 11:50:29pm
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uriel  Sep 21, 2019 • 11:55:00pm

Just to add: I hate noticing that I forgot the possessive apostrophe after tweeting. Jack really needs allow *some* editing besides ‘delete and retweet.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:08:50am

Hey, Joe Bacon, my wife and I ran into you over at the Utah Outcasts live chat.

It was interesting to hear that the DSA in your area functions much differently than my “local” DSA here (yours seem to be a poo-flinging fest of purity ponies while mine wants to pry Trump out of the White House with a crowbar).

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:20:14am

People in the deepest blue parts of blue states think “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good” is some kind of sell-out compromise. They’re the Naderites and Jill Shills who refuse to see how much of our current mess is their fucking fault.

In future generations, a “Sarandon” will be a commonly-used adjectival noun. Like “Quisling” or “Vichy”. For texting purposes, they’ll be represented by an emoji of the underwater “But Her E-Mails” sign.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:20:31am

re: #45 uriel

Because we can all blindly trust in “unnamed official briefed on the matter” in Trumpworld.

Here’s an idea: release the fucking whistle blowers report to the house, as the law requires. Then we can all determine it’s veracity.

But that won’t happen. Because…

Reasons.

Just like we don’t need to see Trump’s tax returns…

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Dread Pirate  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:31:17am

…and the Korean Geologic Service is reporting a typhoon approaching the coast.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:46:26am

re: #47 sagehen

People in the deepest blue parts of blue states think “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good” is some kind of sell-out compromise. They’re the Naderites and Jill Shills who refuse to see how much of our current mess is their fucking fault.

In future generations, a “Sarandon” will be a commonly-used adjectival noun. Like “Quisling” or “Vichy”. For texting purposes, they’ll be represented by an emoji of the underwater “But Her E-Mails” sign.

LOL

Here in a deep red area we liberal folks tend to try to move the needle however we can. If the scale has ten points and we can only realistically move it one, then we’ll take the one and work on the other nine later.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:55:13am

re: #49 Dread Pirate

…and the Korean Geologic Service is reporting a typhoon approaching the coast.

USGS is not showing any earthquakes in either Korea.
earthquake.usgs.gov

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Dread Pirate  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:03:13am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🎃

USGS is not showing any earthquakes in either Korea.

They only show 4.5 or higher outside the US.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:05:54am

re: #52 Dread Pirate

They only show 4.5 or higher outside the US.

You can change the settings with the gear icon on the US map to allow you to select +2.5 on the world map. The setting page is here.
earthquake.usgs.gov (it is user antagonistic so it took me a while to figure it out)

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Dread Pirate  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:13:01am

You can select it but it doesn’t show 2.5s outside US.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:29:08am

re: #54 Dread Pirate

You can select it but it doesn’t show 2.5s outside US.

Actually Bosnia reports quakes under 4.5, but that seems to be all.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:05:49am

re: #55 Dread Pirate

Actually Bosnia reports quakes under 4.5, but that seems to be all.

I find it hard to believe a 3.5 magnitude earthquake near Pyongyang (real or nuclear test) could create a tsunami. That said, I’m not a geologist, so take my opinion with a grain of basalt.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:19:45am

Man accidentally kills himself while showing off swordsmanship during parade (goes to The Independent)

This is a part of a Shia Islam ceremony, to show both swordsmanship and mourn the murder of Husayan ibn Ali and his family (Husayan was the grandson of Mohamed). The ceremony is part of the Mourning of Muharran (the first month of the Islamic calendar) which lasts for ten days and ends on Ashura (literally, the tenth) ten days later.

In Iran, injuring yourself during this ceremony is unlawful. Blood-drawing is normally done outside Iran, and Shias outside the country frequently criticise Iranian Shias for not drawing blood.

The man died in Nalanda, India during the parade. The police are investigating.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:21:33am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Well, he was no poser.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:30:21am

re: #58 Dread Pirate

Well, he was no poser.

The ceremony is sort of like Christian penitentes who have themselves nailed to crosses on Good Friday.

In the Shia Muslim religious act, the idea is the person is taking on the suffering of Hussayan; penitentes are demonstrating the same thing over Jesus.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2019 • 4:09:31am

Tropical Storm Karen has formed near the islands:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 4:22:53am

re: #60 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Tropical Storm Karen has formed near the islands:

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Oh noez it’s a Karen. She’s asking for your manager and coming for your job. /s

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2019 • 4:31:53am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 4:35:05am

I promised I wouldn’t post tweets any more, but I get sent an occasional one in E-mail from Christians. Ones like this.

I’ll have to ask my wife about her causing me “troubled pants.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 4:40:40am

re: #62 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I went back to the original post in that Twitter thread. There’s some crazy people there.

A couple days ago when my wife and I went to Oshkosh to buy groceries, there was a business with a US Flag and a Trump/Pence flag from the same staff (that would be the same conservatives who claim they love the flag and don’t know crap about the US Flag Code).

One thing that does is show me what business not to shop at (but to be fair it was an agricultural equipment repair shop so I’m not likely to shop there anyway).

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 4:43:10am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I promised I wouldn’t post tweets any more, but I get sent an occasional one in E-mail from Christians. Ones like this.

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I’ll have to ask my wife about her causing me “troubled pants.”

These are the same sort of people who will tell you about how “backward” Islamic countries are for imposing clothing like burkas or scarves and how “uncivilized” they are for laws that treat female rape victims as the instigators.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 4:44:34am

re: #65 Targetpractice

These are the same sort of people who will tell you about how “backward” Islamic countries are for imposing clothing like burkas or scarves and how “uncivilized” they are for laws that treat female rape victims as the instigators.

Yup.

I really don’t know why fundamentalist Christians hate fundamentalist Muslims so much since they have so much in common.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 4:46:36am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Yup.

I really don’t know why fundamentalist Christians hate fundamentalist Muslims so much since they have so much in common.

Religious equivalent of a “non-compete clause.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 5:08:16am

I’m guessing since Dr. Jordon Peterson went into rehab for Klonopin abuse, he might need to study lobster hierarchies more.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2019 • 5:08:17am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2019 • 5:11:02am

A common trait among xenophobic nationalists: they say stupid things in defense of us-vs-them:

Brexit Party MP candidate ridiculed for bizarre “British fish” comment

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 5:17:59am

re: #69 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Corbyn is such a failure:

UK could be better off outside EU, says Corbyn - video

And so we’re reminded why, despite years of constant fuck-ups, the Tory leadership is less worried about PM Corbyn than they are about PM Farange.

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2019 • 5:21:28am

a dkos diary quotes a tweet from our Lizard King:
dailykos.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2019 • 5:21:41am

re: #71 Targetpractice

Sclerotic socialists are so unable to adapt to 2019.

Our issue today is hyper-nationalism, which has been fueled by changes in the world economy coming so quickly that the change leaves many people unable to deal with how fast their redundancy has hit him.

Corbyn’s mind is still back in the days of Maggie Thatcher.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 5:35:34am

re: #73 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sclerotic socialists are so unable to adapt to 2019.

Our issue today is hyper-nationalism, which has been fueled by changes in the world economy coming so quickly that the change leaves many people unable to deal with how fast their redundancy has hit him.

Corbyn’s mind is still back in the days of Maggie Thatcher.

The UK is suffering much what the US is, namely a period of rapid social change that is leaving large numbers of the native population afraid that they’re in danger of being rendered powerless. The historical precedent is when those populations fear such, they lash out towards whatever populations they fear are taking all the power and the parties they view as aiding such. In many ways it’s a generational issue, as the largest generations are also the ones slowly aging into oblivion, while the younger generation that’s embracing the change is smaller and less engaged.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2019 • 5:41:56am

re: #74 Targetpractice

Corbyn is so unable to counter the xenophobia because, frankly, the Labour party built its base on the industrial centers that have been hard hit and are the most xenophobic.

There is a parallel here, in which the Democratic party used to be based around labor unions, the remnants of which were then attracted to Reagan and finally Trump.

We humans evolved to think in timelines of days, maybe a month (see menstrual cycles), and to have networks of just a few dozen people.

Now we have global networks that sync up millions of people, and economic and social planning encompasses decades.

We’ve built a society, with our evolved language ability and the abstract thinking that comes with it, that is beyond our emotional ability.

Any leader who can counter that has to be especially savvy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2019 • 5:44:56am

In the last Democratic debate, what was most transparent were those candidates who were working the old-unions angel, with statements about union members wanting to keep their health insurance (in opposition to a national single payer system.)

Understandably, as it seems that Trump won the electoral college because the old Democratic machine in union heavy states like MI and PA just didn’t work like the old days.

The Democratic party can’t be a national party just based on us tree-huggers out here in California.

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jeffreyw  Sep 22, 2019 • 5:58:36am

Good morning!

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 5:58:47am

re: #76 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In the last Democratic debate, what was most transparent were those candidates who were working the old-unions angel, with statements about union members wanting to keep their health insurance (in opposition to a national single payer system.)

Understandably, as it seems that Trump won the electoral college because the old Democratic machine in union heavy states like MI and PA just didn’t work like the old days.

The Democratic party can’t be a national party just based on us tree-huggers out here in California.

What I saw at the last debate was the growing reality that the Dems just don’t have the political will to do more than tinker at the edges of the system. That there is just not the will to get out there and educate the voters on why continuing to hold onto the idea of individual insurance as the primary means of attaining healthcare is the reason why healthcare is so expensive in this country. Warren was about the only person on that stage who came close to the reality that businesses in this country have discovered that workers will accept low pay, piss-poor treatment, and loss of all their bargaining ability if you offer health insurance. And will even vote for pay cuts or worse treatment if it means that they can keep that insurance plan.

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BigPapa  Sep 22, 2019 • 6:02:42am

re: #77 jeffreyw

are those habaneros?

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jeffreyw  Sep 22, 2019 • 6:17:24am

re: #79 BigPapa

are those habaneros?

Yes. I was lucky to walk out of the house one day, camera in hand, with Bea nestled in among them.

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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2019 • 6:21:27am

re: #77 jeffreyw

Now that’s a spicy meatball ;)

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jeffreyw  Sep 22, 2019 • 6:24:26am

re: #81 William Lewis

Now that’s a spicy meatball ;)

Some like them hot…

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DangerMan  Sep 22, 2019 • 6:29:23am
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sagehen  Sep 22, 2019 • 6:30:21am

re: #77 jeffreyw

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Is he line-of-sight and leaping distance from the bird feeder?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 6:32:11am

Ken Ham’s New Life-Size Tower Of Babel Reproduction Plagued With Construction Delays (goes to The Babylon Bee)

WILLIAMSTOWN, KY—Ken Ham is at it again! Following the success of Ark Encounter, the good folks at the Creation Museum have broken ground on their newest brainchild: The Tower of Babel.

“Everyone loves seeing Bible stories come to life,” said Ham, CEO of Answers in Genesis. “When we sat down to brainstorm about what to do next, we asked ourselves ‘what did Noah’s descendants do next?’ They built a huge tower!” This, of course, is excluding Ham’s failed project The Table of Nations, which was literally just a big table with names of nations written on it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 6:32:39am

re: #83 DangerMan

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All I can see right now is a replay of Watergate, but one where Nixon continued to break the law without pause due to the total absence of opposition.

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jeffreyw  Sep 22, 2019 • 6:44:52am

re: #84 sagehen

Is he line-of-sight and leaping distance from the bird feeder?

Nope. Cats are attracted to pots for reasons inscrutable. They can be hard on newly potted basil.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2019 • 6:52:44am
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:00:34am

GOOD MORNING LIZARDIA!

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DangerMan  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:05:17am

The news is bleak

The music is good

Enjoy your day

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:05:18am

re: #90 The Pie Overlord!

GOOD MORNING LIZARDIA!

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:08:14am

re: #92 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:14:27am

re: #93 The Pie Overlord!

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:15:24am

re: #90 The Pie Overlord!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:15:42am

re: #90 The Pie Overlord!

GOOD MORNING LIZARDIA!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:17:11am

They are starting to gather across the street for church. That means I’ve been up too long and it’s time to hide in bed.

I’ll catch y’all later.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:18:21am

re: #89 jaunte

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The same week the press acts aghast that Lewandowski said aloud before Congress on live TV that he has no duty to be honest with them, the press reciprocate by having perennial liars on their shows to give us the latest batch of lies.

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jeffreyw  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:20:17am

re: #98 Targetpractice

The same week the press acts aghast that Lewandowski said aloud before Congress on live TV that he has no duty to be honest with them, the press reciprocate by having perennial liars on their shows to give us the latest batch of lies.

The gasps during his testimony were because he broke the fourth wall, and that just isn’t done.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:24:39am
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DangerMan  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:28:48am

re: #99 jeffreyw

The gasps during his testimony were because he broke the fourth wall, and that just isn’t done.

Worked for alvy singer, bugs bunny and Hedy (that’s Hedley) Lemarr

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2019 • 7:31:21am

re: #101 DangerMan

Worked for alvy singer, bugs bunny and Hedy (that’s Hedley) Lemarr

Also Frank Underwood. But maybe that’s a little too on-the-nose of a comparison?

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:00:10am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I promised I wouldn’t post tweets any more, but I get sent an occasional one in E-mail from Christians. Ones like this.

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I’ll have to ask my wife about her causing me “troubled pants.”

It’s the hot new trousers brand.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:09:07am

good grief, he’s a moron…

I guarantee that he has no clue about Mothman.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:12:01am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

As long as the attention is on him DT does not care.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:13:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:14:33am

O_o

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:14:55am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:16:18am

When your landlady who has been watching you like a hawk because she’s worried about you brings you a slice of her key lime pound cake for breakfast, you make the coffee and enjoy it…knowing full well your doctor will butt-bongo you tomorrow…

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:18:41am

re: #78 Targetpractice

What I saw at the last debate was the growing reality that the Dems just don’t have the political will to do more than tinker at the edges of the system. That there is just not the will to get out there and educate the voters on why continuing to hold onto the idea of individual insurance as the primary means of attaining healthcare is the reason why healthcare is so expensive in this country. Warren was about the only person on that stage who came close to the reality that businesses in this country have discovered that workers will accept low pay, piss-poor treatment, and loss of all their bargaining ability if you offer health insurance. And will even vote for pay cuts or worse treatment if it means that they can keep that insurance plan.

Even older Democrats are afraid of too much change. As much as people gripe about their health care, they know what it does. It’s easy for the GOP to play into the fear that change means destruction and loss. It can be hard to convince people that changing something they have worked hard to achieve can be replaced with something better without either proving it to them, or destroying what they have (which is what the Great Depression did).

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:20:29am

re: #86 Targetpractice

All I can see right now is a replay of Watergate, but one where Nixon continued to break the law without pause due to the total absence of opposition.

This was posted yesterday by MsJ:

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:21:15am

re: #87 jeffreyw

Nope. Cats are attracted to pots for reasons inscrutable. They can be hard on newly potted basil.

They are liquids and know they must be stored in a container, which is also why they like boxes.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:22:04am

re: #112 Belafon

They are liquids and know they must be stored in a container, which is also why they like boxes.

My cats aren’t liquid, they’re simply boneless.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:28:43am
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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:30:23am

re: #114 Belafon

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:35:46am

re: #74 Targetpractice

The UK is suffering much what the US is, namely a period of rapid social change that is leaving large numbers of the native population afraid that they’re in danger of being rendered powerless. The historical precedent is when those populations fear such, they lash out towards whatever populations they fear are taking all the power and the parties they view as aiding such. In many ways it’s a generational issue, as the largest generations are also the ones slowly aging into oblivion, while the younger generation that’s embracing the change is smaller and less engaged.

Let’s not forget decades of austerity. I think that’s a bigger driver but what you said definitely applies.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:36:21am

re: #69 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Corbyn is such a failure:

UK could be better off outside EU, says Corbyn - video

He should come out and say that he’s a leaver.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:38:09am

re: #90 The Pie Overlord!

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:38:37am

My cat is weird. She’s not a box or container kitty. Catnip does nothing for her. She’s a left paw drinker out of the water fountain. And on work days (oh! she knows, because I roll out of bed before 6 am and take a shower), she insists on licking my hands after the shower. But I love her anyway.

She’s not going to like it very much when I move her from her current spot on the desk so I can set up for on call. (The work laptop goes where she’s sitting. But she’s a smart kitty. She knows that laptops are not to be stepped on.) One of my coworkers in NorCal got some 49ers tickets, so I took part of his Sunday on call so he could go to the game.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:39:31am

re: #109 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hmmmm. That looks delicious.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:40:29am

re: #90 The Pie Overlord!

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:42:03am

From just now. I used to see decreases on rare occasion. Four in a row? Not in the entire years I’ve followed houses on Redfin. Never before.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:42:29am

apod.nasa.gov

Eye Sky a Dragon
Image Credit & Copyright: Anton Komlev

Explanation: What do you see when you look into this sky? In the center, in the dark, do you see a night sky filled with stars? Do you see a sunset to the left? Clouds all around? Do you see the central band of our Milky Way Galaxy running down the middle? Do you see the ruins of an abandoned outpost on a hill? (The outpost is on Askold Island, Russia.) Do you see a photographer with a headlamp contemplating surreal surroundings? (The image is a panorama of 38 images taken last month and compiled into a Little Planet projection.) Do you see a rugged path lined with steps? Or do you see the eye of a dragon?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:50:17am

Didn’t the moron say just yesterday that the NYT is going bankrupt?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:50:51am
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:53:05am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes he did.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:56:28am
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jaunte  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:57:18am
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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:57:32am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“But corruption in Russia? I’m totally cool with that!”

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:57:45am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Save that tweet. Every little bit helps.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:57:50am

jeebus

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2019 • 8:58:09am
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:00:11am

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

Toomey is not the brightest person and does not keep up with the constant tweets of DT.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:00:37am

good morning.

this is how it’s done

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:01:46am

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Anything to maintain the horse race narrative. “Yeah, Trump and his brood are a bunch of criminal fuckheads, but Hunter Biden made money in Ukraine!”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:04:46am

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m guessing since Dr. Jordon Peterson went into rehab for Klonopin abuse, he might need to study lobster hierarchies more.

According to Newsweek, he was prescribed the medication in April to handle his depression in coping with his wife’s diagnosis of terminal cancer; when her treatments were successful, he tried stopping the drug on his own but suffered from terrible withdrawal symptoms. The real problem appears to be pharmaceutical companies who develop and market highly addictive and dangerous drugs and promote their prescription and overuse. For an anti-anxiety drug to be so addictive after fewer than 6 months seems irresponsible and indeed criminal practice by the companies that market it.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:05:22am

What happened to Maggie?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:05:26am

re: #114 Belafon

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these people just do not speak with each other

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:06:27am

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, that’s an awful of of empty seats to illustrate “turned out in full force”

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:07:16am

re: #137 MsJ

What happened to Maggie?

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“Stopped clock” moment.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:12:08am
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MsJ  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:12:53am
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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:14:09am

re: #137 MsJ

What happened to Maggie?

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Better be careful there Maggie, you might accidentally perform an act of journalism. The folks in Washington demanding propaganda won’t be happy with you.

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BigPapa  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:22:53am

Cartman’s toadies are not on message and making worse. If they were smart they’d all be off the news show right now all hunkered down getting their talking points together. But Cartman’s ego won’t allow himself to keep quiet.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:23:44am

re: #113 Targetpractice

re: #112 Belafon

They are liquids and know they must be stored in a container, which is also why they like boxes.

My cats aren’t liquid, they’re simply boneless.

Wired: Study into fluid dynamics of cats wins big at 2017 Ig Nobel Prize

The referenced paper is here.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:23:53am

Trump recently: “where’s my dictator?”

Last night: anti-Sisi demonstrations break out in Egypt. We know which side Trump is on.

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Skip Intro  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:24:26am

re: #122 MsJ

From just now. I used to see decreases on rare occasion. Four in a row? Not in the entire years I’ve followed houses on Redfin. Never before.

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That’s odd for Redfin. They give my house the highest valuation, by far, compared to Trulia, realtor.com, and Zillow.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:24:39am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, that’s an awful of of empty seats to illustrate “turned out in full force”

Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX :
Indian population: 91,637 1.5% of 5,946,800 total (2010 census)

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:25:41am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:28:00am

Still recovering from the crash of my Mac.

While I was able to recover some files from the /User/Library directory, unfortunately one of the files not recovered was the Chrome bookmarks files.

Alas, I found an old Chrome bookmarks file but it is a couple of years old.

I hate losing bookmarks.

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plansbandc  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:28:05am

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Skip Intro  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:28:06am

re: #149 jaunte

Being “above the law” ultimately means elections are irrelevant since the laws to enforce the results do not apply to Trump. A dangerous message, and the media are promoting it for everything they’re worth.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:31:48am

Ahhhh. Local PBS station WHYY has a whole afternoon of Bob Ross painting.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:34:30am

re: #153 PhillyPretzel

Ahhhh. Local PBS station WHYY has a whole afternoon of Bob Ross painting.

My neighbor is having a big Patriots game-watching party. I wish I had a secret remote to change their channel to a Bob Ross marathon.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:35:00am

re: #153 PhillyPretzel

Ahhhh. Local PBS station WHYY has a whole afternoon of Bob Ross painting.

Happy little trees rejoice.

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Citizen K  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:37:51am

re: #144 BigPapa

Cartman’s toadies are not on message and making worse. If they were smart they’d all be off the news show right now all hunkered down getting their talking points together. But Cartman’s ego won’t allow himself to keep quiet.

Yet even then, they may succeed in spite of themselves because the media is addicted to Democrats in Disarray and “Both Sides Same Thing”. They’re full on intent on making it a crisis for Biden, which is just proof positive that the GOP can invent anything about a Dem and have it turned into major scandal that the media will cover endlessly just to avoid any sense that they just be ‘too hard on Trump’.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:45:09am

July 9:
Heart-warming, karmalicious story from the UK. The Nazi firebug was not seriously injured but he is seriously gaoled. (Hilarious video)
White supremacist accidentally sets own head on fire while trying to burn down synagogue

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b.d.  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:46:10am

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

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these people just do not speak with each other

There are 10,000 people sitting on the roof.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:46:47am

re: #147 Skip Intro

That’s odd for Redfin. They give my house the highest valuation, by far, compared to Trulia, realtor.com, and Zillow.

Not odd…a trend. A bad one.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:47:46am

Jennifer Rubin from the 20th:

If Trump cannot be investigated for this and held accountable for his actions (even if no quid pro quo was involved), we really have given up on our constitutional system. Heaven help us.

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Skip Intro  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:50:16am

re: #159 MsJ

Not odd…a trend. A bad one.

What I mean is that Redfin always wildly overvalues my house compared to the others. On them the value has gone down, as have the asking prices of houses for sale near me.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2019 • 9:58:24am

I think this is important: Rudy Giuliani accused me of exposing Paul Manafort’s Ukraine deals to help U.S. Democrats. That’s a lie. By Serhiy Leshchenko, WaPo Global Opinion

This man should be on the House radar for what he knows about what Giuliani and DT are doing inside Ukraine.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:00:59am

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is my fcking GOP Senator.
Traitor.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:02:20am

And I see the Sunday morning talk shows are full of DT’s spokespeople putting all the spotlight on Biden and son, even Giuliana saying “The kid, unfortunately, is a drug addict.” The “kid”???

washingtonpost.com

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:03:28am

re: #150 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Thank you for reminding me to back up my hard drive on my MacBook Air.

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:07:13am

re: #164 retired cynic

And I see the Sunday morning talk shows are full of DT’s spokespeople putting all the spotlight on Biden and son, even Giuliana saying “The kid, unfortunately, is a drug addict.” The “kid”???

washingtonpost.com

I’d never heard the drug addict accusation…

I do know, however, that Hunter Biden divorced his wife to marry his brother’s widow. So his nieces and nephews are now his stepchildren, and his kids and ex-wife have to be civil to him at family gatherings. That’s… pretty sketchy. I don’t know how a family gets past that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:07:29am

re: #133 PhillyPretzel

Toomey is not the brightest person and does not keep up with the constant tweets of DT.

Pisses me off that Toomey only got re-elected because the corrupt Rendell machine in PA stabbed Joe Sestak in the back.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:08:17am

NO!

THE INFECTION IS SPREADING!

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:09:32am

re: #166 sagehen

I’d never heard the drug addict accusation…

I do know, however, that Hunter Biden divorced his wife to marry his brother’s widow. So his nieces and nephews are now his stepchildren, and his kids and ex-wife have to be civil to him at family gatherings. That’s… pretty sketchy. I don’t know how a family gets past that.

Is Hunter running for public office? No? Then stop wasting my time.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:09:40am

re: #168 Joe Bacon 🌹

NO!

THE INFECTION IS SPREADING!

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Gotta nuke the site from orbit.

//

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cat-tikvah  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:10:08am

re: #133 PhillyPretzel

Toomey is a spineless coward.
Ran on being a “moderate”.
Claimed he wouldn’t be a rubber stamp for Trump.
Won by 1.2 % margin.
Empty suit, rubber stamp Toomey.
Or as my Russian speaking daughter translated for me:
послушный инструмент
poslushnyy instrument/obedient tool

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:10:28am

re: #168 Joe Bacon 🌹

NO!

THE INFECTION IS SPREADING!

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I find the honey pecan (to the left) equally distressing.

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BigPapa  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:10:56am

Wait until we have pumpkin spice mayonnaise.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:12:04am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Yup.

I really don’t know why fundamentalist Christians hate fundamentalist Muslims so much since they have so much in common.

Muslims worship the wrong God.

(Seriously, that’s what they think)

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:12:59am

re: #171 cat-tikvah

I agree but I was trying to be polite. In Toomey’s case it is better to be honest. He is a witless, spineless excuse of a human.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:13:16am

OK what alcoholic beverage should I soak the raisins for the apple strudel?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:14:54am

re: #176 The Pie Overlord!

Hmm. A fruity brandy or rum.

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CarolJ  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:16:15am

re: #168 Joe Bacon 🌹

Speak for yourself. Years ago i used to eat pumpkin cheesecake, which was a mix of canned pumpkin and cream cheese. With this seasonal Kraft mix, I can skip a few steps and make a pumpkin cheesecake with the right amount of flavor.

And if I don’t do that, at least I could put in on a raisin bagel:))

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:16:35am

re: #176 The Pie Overlord!

OK what alcoholic beverage should I soak the raisins for the apple strudel?

Grappa, obvs.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:16:38am

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BigPapa  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:18:08am
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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:19:32am

re: #176 The Pie Overlord!

Bourbon. But that’s just me…in my experience bourbon goes well with brown sugar in glazes for meat and vanilla cake too, lol.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:19:49am

re: #180 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Yeah, that was pretty much what killed my interest in conspiracy theories back in the day, the dawning realization that this sort of shit is just impossible to keep quiet forever. The old adage “Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead” holds true.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:22:00am

Note to self: Don’t MST3K and post. It never works out well.

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CarolJ  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:27:00am

re: #180 Joe Bacon 🌹

Not only that, but while a small, short-lived conspiracy can be kept secret for a while, eventually someone will talk. People have revealed secrets about secret societies, the underworld, about cults. People get disilllusioned, retire, and are so eager to show what they know in order to impress people.

Think about aliens. There would be a fortune awaiting the first person that could come up with proof-so what if the Feds/M1-1/Whatever fired you? You could make up what you lost in earnings by writing a book, giving speeches and selling the evidence at auction. You would never have to work again for anybody.

Not to mention that there would be millions of scientists who would want to study the aliens-their biology, their technology, their culture. An alien would be the mother lode for all of this information-who would want it to go to waste by killing them?

Even if you buy the idea that maybe there’s a vast interest in not upsetting the religious applecart by revealing we are not alone, most real religions focus on ethics and morals and not on origin stories. Love thy Neighbor works even with aliens.

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plansbandc  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:27:24am

Sports is going to kill me. It’s a fact.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:28:16am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:29:58am

re: #186 plansbandc

Sports is going to kill me. It’s a fact.

I was following on twitter since NBC is only playing Liverpool/Chelsea on my TV. Arsenal fans are right assholes sometimes, I tell ya. But that game turned out to be a Guendoozy.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:30:22am

re: #142 MsJ

They’re cute, but may wreak havoc on your reef tank. A nudibranch has an unknown diet and may hoover up wanted animals.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:31:21am

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:35:35am

re: #185 CarolJ

Even if you buy the idea that maybe there’s a vast interest in not upsetting the religious applecart by revealing we are not alone, most real religions focus on ethics and morals and not on origin stories. Love thy Neighbor works even with aliens.

That’s one I’ve never understood. I’ve talked to Muslims before on the subject, and they conceded it’s entirely possible that God created life elsewhere in the Universe. Indeed, a couple of Muslims I know noted that the Qur’an doesn’t rule out extraterrestrial life, but may in fact even hint at the notion. Buddhists of my acquaintance certainly acknowledge that there may well be life out there that we’re currently unaware of and that maybe one of these days, we’d either find that life or it would find us.

Is it just Christianity that holds that man is the only life in the Universe?

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:39:07am

Trump Claims 20 World Class Climbers Tested his Wall - World Class Climbers: “Huh?”

El Jefe on Juanita Jean

During Trump’s silly visit to his wall south of San Diego last week (the one where he tried to reveal secret sensing built into the wall), he made the remarkable claim that 20 world class mountain climbers tried and couldn’t climb it. The claim was bullshit, of course, like the virtually all of his claims. The press immediately tried to confirm Trump’s claim by…wait for it…talking to world class climbers. Said climbers said they had no knowledge of any climbers participating in any test of Trump’s wall, and even added that would help even if asked. They also gave the parting shot that the wall could be easily scaled.

LOL.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:41:26am

It’s been my experience that the larger a conspiracy, the more people that would have to be involved, and so the larger the likelihood that somebody somewhere would release credible evidence to the press. For example, one of my favorite bits about 9/11 was how it was missiles that hit those targets and not hijacked airliners. When I questioned a “Truther” about where the jets went, I got everything from “They were flown to a secret base and the people executed” to “THERE NEVER WERE ANY PASSENGERS!”

No matter which theory you believe, the number of people involved to maintain that conspiracy would make the certainty of some poor schlub getting paid chicken scratch going to the press damn near 100%.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:43:44am

I should really not have been doing this, considering the horrible pain that I experienced this morning, but when I’m stressed, I bake.

Also I think I have achieved the “Hole-y Grail” of Artisan Bread with these loaves. I will know once they have cooled down enough to slice.

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:44:22am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

Is it just Christianity that holds that man is the only life in the Universe?

No, I think it’s only a particular strain of Christianity, i.e., people who believe in special creation (either Old Earth or Young Earth Creationism IF they happen to be biblical inerrantists). Ken Ham, the Ayatollah of Appalachia, doesn’t believe there is any life out in the universe besides earth because God didn’t say so in the Bible.

I keep hoping they find microbes on Mars or Titan or Europa, just to blow these guys’ worldviews to bits.

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CarolJ  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:44:37am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

It seems that only Christianity (and a certain segment of it) needs to have us be alone-and a short earth. If aliens exist, then the universe is older than 6000 years-after all the nearest star-while only 4 light years away, would take far more even as near-light speeds to get to us.

Also, what about the claim that Jesus only revealed his truth and sacrificed his body for earthlings? Did he die for the sins of aliens too?

Other religions seem to be cool with a universe that is old enough for aliens to somehow reach us.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:47:07am

I just bought this book for myself:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:51:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:53:08am

he needs to tell that to Sen. Purdue

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:53:26am
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danarchy  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:53:38am

re: #166 sagehen

I’d never heard the drug addict accusation…

I do know, however, that Hunter Biden divorced his wife to marry his brother’s widow. So his nieces and nephews are now his stepchildren, and his kids and ex-wife have to be civil to him at family gatherings. That’s… pretty sketchy. I don’t know how a family gets past that.

Hunter has given interviews about his struggles with alcohol and cocaine. It’s why he was dismissed from the Navy reserves.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:54:50am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2019 • 10:55:27am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Yup.

I really don’t know why fundamentalist Christians hate fundamentalist Muslims so much since they have so much in common.

A reminder: Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson blamed liberals for causing 9/11 because of our immoral ways. So did our friend Dinesh in his book The Enemy at Home. Their thesis really was that it was the lack of true religion that led to the attack because Muslims could not tolerate how our immorality was harming their religious traditions and modest behavior. So, whatever may be the current RW message, only a few years ago the same religious fanatics were promoting a different message about Islam

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:03:10am
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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:04:51am

re: #164 retired cynic

And I see the Sunday morning talk shows are full of DT’s spokespeople putting all the spotlight on Biden and son, even Giuliana saying “The kid, unfortunately, is a drug addict.” The “kid”???

washingtonpost.com

Another washingtonpost.com

“We haven’t seen anything like this in my lifetime,” said William A. Galston, a senior fellow in governance at the Brookings Institution who graduated from college just before Watergate. “He appears to be daring the rest of the political system to stop him — and if it doesn’t, he’ll go further.”

And that is the point that makes me want to push House Dems to move faster: not just what he has done, but what he will do unleashed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:06:33am

re: #206 retired cynic

Yes, this has been an ongoing thing ever since he got away with things like pussy grabbing, mocking handicapped people and belittling John McCain’s military record…

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:06:50am

re: #206 retired cynic

Two more hair-raising quotes from that last link:

“The reality is, the more the Democrats press for an investigation of what I did in the Ukraine, I invite it,” Giuliani said. “I’m just doing my job as a poor, simple, little defense lawyer who’s defending his client.”

Former House speaker Newt Gingrich, a Trump ally, said the president has calculated that there is a political upside to spotlighting Ukraine and a story he believes “would crush Biden if people came to believe it was true.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:11:41am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, this has been an ongoing thing ever since he got away with things like pussy grabbing, mocking handicapped people and belittling John McCain’s military record…

And tens of millions of Americans were totally fine with that. As Shakespeare said,
“The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings.”

Certainly the MSM bears most of the responsibility for what has happened, but there is something terribly wrong with a public who sees this evil and votes for it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:13:27am

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m so old, I remember when the rumors that Hillary was taking campaign donations from “Chinese-American bundlers” was treated like a major election scandal.

A decade later, the president* that was elected through election interference from Russia is seriously trying to argue that he has every right to seek help from Ukraine in winning his reelection bid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:13:58am

re: #209 Hecuba’s daughter

Certainly the MSM bears most of the responsibility for what has happened, but there is something terribly wrong with a public who sees this evil and votes for it.

and with a party that has no trouble with a candidate who demeans one of their own

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:15:50am

I DID IT! I DID IT!

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:16:48am

Now for the NOMS

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:18:26am

re: #211 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and with a party that has no trouble with a candidate who demeans one of their own

It’s not that Trump demeaned a member of his party, it’s that he demeaned him for being a hero who suffered in captivity. He demeaned him for his very act of courage. Trump is a worthless coward who must reduce everyone to a status beneath him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:22:21am

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Sunday Gasbag shows are always stacked in favor of the Republicans

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Citizen K  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:23:05am

It’s exactly like I’ve been saying for a while re:the effectiveness of large demonstrations. It all hinges on actual coverage, and the media has decided well in advance that any such demonstrations are not supposed to be news. Not the way a 3 dozen strong protest for any conservative cause is.

If a tree falls in the woods, and the media doesn’t cover it, it may as well not happen, and social media is not changing that because, as has been pointed out already, a vast majority of the country still gets its news from ‘old media’ sources.

That’s a bit of the dirty secret to conservative social media success. THey don’t dominate the actual social media landscape. They just leverage it to influence TV, radio, newspapers, etc. for maximum effect to where they may as well own the social media landscape.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:26:09am

re: #212 The Pie Overlord!

Damn, girl. The fucking FLOUR COMPANY is bowing to you. That totally rocks.

(Begins looking for a house in a certain part of Michigan…..I wish…)

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:27:19am

re: #198 The Pie Overlord!

Judaism does not rule out the possibility of life existing on other planets.

On Venus, Have We Got a Rabbi!

There’s apparently an actual rabbinic court that answers space questions.

If Sabbath is from sundown to sundown, does that mean on the space station Sabbath is only 90 minutes and it happens every 10.5 hours?
(answer: NO!! Sabbath on the space station follows Houston time. For Earthbound people where light/dark aren’t on a 24-hour cycle, Sabbath in Antarctica or above the Arctic circle follows your hometown sunset.)

If my great-great-grandson lives on Mars, how will he know when to observe Jewish holidays?
(answer: History holidays, like Hannukah or Purim or Shoah day, follow the Earth calendar. Season holidays, like New Year or a harvest festival, will follow a to-be-created Martian calendar. Sabbath is still every 7th day, even though the days are a slightly different length.)

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plansbandc  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:31:19am

re: #212 The Pie Overlord!

That’s gorgeous. You are not just the Pie OverLord, you are the Baker OverLord.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:31:27am

re: #212 The Pie Overlord!

Congrats. That is great. :)

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ericblair  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:32:38am

re: #216 Citizen K

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It’s exactly like I’ve been saying for a while re:the effectiveness of large demonstrations. It all hinges on actual coverage, and the media has decided well in advance that any such demonstrations are not supposed to be news. Not the way a 3 dozen strong protest for any conservative cause is.

If a tree falls in the woods, and the media doesn’t cover it, it may as well not happen, and social media is not changing that because, as has been pointed out already, a vast majority of the country still gets its news from ‘old media’ sources.

When I lived in metro DC in the Days of W, we’d have big anti-Iraq War protests and pro-immigration protests. The only way you found out about them on the news was the traffic report telling you which roads were closed. Seriously.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:35:51am

re: #151 plansbandc

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Dem: Ultimately, we’re going to have to buy a new vase.
GOP: You’re spending other people’s money. They’re not going to like that.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:39:15am

re: #100 Targetpractice

Oliver Willis

@owillis
Weak

The WaPo article on this interview is much less weak:washingtonpost.com

I had not realized that Schiff has been opposed to impeachment. Last quote in the article:

Schiff is also a close ally of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who has been an impeachment skeptic and put the House on a path of turning to the courts to enforce subpoenas that the administration has ignored.
Yet, on Sunday, Schiff appeared to suggest Pelosi’s impulse to look to the courts would not do in this instance. The inspector general of the intelligence community has deemed the whistleblower allegation to be “urgent,” which, under law, should have triggered the administration to turn it over to Congress.
The administration refused.
“We cannot afford to play rope-a-dope in the court for weeks or months on end,” he said. “We need an answer. If there’s a fire burning, it needs to be put out. And that’s why we’re going to have to look at every remedy. . . . We’re going to have to consider impeachment, as well, as remedy here.”

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:43:25am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

That’s one I’ve never understood. I’ve talked to Muslims before on the subject, and they conceded it’s entirely possible that God created life elsewhere in the Universe. Indeed, a couple of Muslims I know noted that the Qur’an doesn’t rule out extraterrestrial life, but may in fact even hint at the notion. Buddhists of my acquaintance certainly acknowledge that there may well be life out there that we’re currently unaware of and that maybe one of these days, we’d either find that life or it would find us.

Is it just Christianity that holds that man is the only life in the Universe?

A lot of Christians are going to sound exactly like the Muslims you have talked to.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:44:52am

re: #224 Belafon

A lot of Christians are going to sound exactly like the Muslims you have talked to.

Point is that the people who wrote (or wrote down) the Bible had no concept of other planets, much less the possibility of life on them.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:48:58am

re: #216 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

It’s exactly like I’ve been saying for a while re:the effectiveness of large demonstrations. It all hinges on actual coverage, and the media has decided well in advance that any such demonstrations are not supposed to be news. Not the way a 3 dozen strong protest for any conservative cause is.

If a tree falls in the woods, and the media doesn’t cover it, it may as well not happen, and social media is not changing that because, as has been pointed out already, a vast majority of the country still gets its news from ‘old media’ sources.

That’s a bit of the dirty secret to conservative social media success. THey don’t dominate the actual social media landscape. They just leverage it to influence TV, radio, newspapers, etc. for maximum effect to where they may as well own the social media landscape.

People will have to post videos to Twitter and Facebook like it’s been done for other marches.

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jeffreyw  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:52:47am

re: #168 Joe Bacon 🌹

NO!

THE INFECTION IS SPREADING!

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Damn your eyes! I muted the word “pumpkin” on Twitter for 30 days just this morning.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:54:20am

re: #226 Belafon

And start hammering the media social media with video and pics asking why the hell it’s not making the news when a couple dozen nazis in their stupid MAGA hats do.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:54:44am
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:56:19am

re: #168 Joe Bacon 🌹

NO!

THE INFECTION IS SPREADING!

One of the booths at the Boys & Girls Club fundraiser yesterday did a pumpkin spice funnel cake that everyone was raving about (I’m not into funnel cake). The two people I talked to said that pumpkin spice really only works in things you’d just put pumpkin in, and both were disgusted by the pumpkin spice vodka.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:56:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:56:37am
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:57:06am

re: #229 jaunte

“Critical for the facts to come out” means the stuff on Biden.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 22, 2019 • 11:58:19am

“Troubling” exists to cover doing nothing about what is ongoing, while “thoughts and prayers” exists to close discussion of what has already happened but will prompt no action or thought.

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Citizen K  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:00:29pm

re: #226 Belafon

People will have to post videos to Twitter and Facebook like it’s been done for other marches.

re: #228 A Mom Anon

And start hammering the media social media with video and pics asking why the hell it’s not making the news when a couple dozen nazis in their stupid MAGA hats do.

I mean….judging from my timeline, that’s exactly what most of the people attending the marches do. The problem is that it doesn’t pierce the veil, precisely because the great guardians of the narrative simply don’t want it to pierce the veil. It’s becoming clear that there’s no amount of effort that’ll be enough to reach that breaking point. And god help me, I wish I knew how to get around that or counteract that. But seeing what should be no-duh impeachment level malevolence being yet again turned into ‘bad news for Democrats’ by the united front of mainstream media…I’m just losing hope of seeing any breakthrough moment.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:04:27pm

re: #229 jaunte

Mitt Romney

@MittRomney
If the President asked or pressured Ukraine’s president to investigate his political rival, either directly or through his personal attorney, it would be troubling in the extreme. Critical for the facts to come out.

Other than gender and net worth, is there any difference between Susan Collins and Mitt Romney? Asking for a “friend”.

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jeffreyw  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:08:34pm

…unlike the Pie Overlord’s
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:15:34pm

Not sure if this was posted already but for any Trekkies out there: Aaron Eisenberg, who played Nog on DS9, has died at age 50.

No cause has been released.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:20:04pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:20:26pm

Also, is anyone else having problems with LGF right now?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:22:12pm

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

Me too. They seemed to have cleared up.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:24:36pm

re: #236 Hecuba’s daughter

Other than gender and net worth, is there any difference between Susan Collins and Mitt Romney? Asking for a “friend”.

No. Both are Mitch’s rubber stamps.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:33:33pm

You might see some display problems — I’m working on switching the site completely to HTTPS, and it’s a fucking mess right now.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:36:25pm

re: #243 Charles Johnson

Some problems? Okay. At least we know what is going on. :)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:38:18pm

re: #243 Charles Johnson

You might see some display problems — I’m working on switching the site completely to HTTPS, and it’s a fucking mess right now.

For some reason I thought we were already on HTTPS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:39:45pm

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

For some reason I thought we were already on HTTPS.

only the login part, IIRC

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:40:02pm

Conservatives be like: “The cop should have shot the thug! Save taxpayers money!”

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:41:17pm

re: #247 DodgerFan1988

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Conservatives be like: “The cop should have shot the thug! Save taxpayers money!”

I read that with horror. WTF????? No white six year old … oh, why bother….

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Dave In Austin  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:41:17pm

re: #243 Charles Johnson

Thanks for all you do…….

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:42:04pm

Yes, only the sign-in and account settings are currently in HTTPS. But I’m getting tired of seeing the dire warnings from Chrome and other browsers, and they’re probably scaring some visitors away even though there’s nothing insecure here — so I have to tackle this job even though it’s a major pain.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:42:09pm

re: #249 Dave In Austin

Agree with Dave In Austin: you have made this a home away from home for all of us!

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:44:41pm

re: #251 retired cynic

This is my place of refuge on the internet.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:46:56pm

re: #252 PhillyPretzel

Mine too. I really don’t think there’s a better online community than this one.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:47:25pm

re: #252 PhillyPretzel

This is my place of refuge on the internet.

Mine too.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:48:40pm

Thanks again to the kind soul who has given me membership and thus a clean viewing experience. I saw this earlier and found it amusing:

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2019 • 12:52:51pm

re: #248 retired cynic

White kids get calls from principals to medicate their kids, at least that’s what happened to us when The Kid was a little guy and the school had nothing in place for autistic kids. Or an even basic understanding of autism. When a kid has a meltdown it’s often sensory overload which is a sign of autism or other similar neurological type differences. I’d be suing the everloving fuck out of some one over this. It’s not just unnecessary it shows a complete lack of understanding ANY kid, not just one with a sensory issue.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:02:39pm

re: #247 DodgerFan1988

Social Darwinism is deep in the bones of modern America.

Scrape off the surface ornamentation and part of our carceral state is the idea that many people don’t deserve better.

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danarchy  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:04:01pm

re: #256 A Mom Anon

White kids get calls from principals to medicate their kids, at least that’s what happened to us when The Kid was a little guy and the school had nothing in place for autistic kids. Or an even basic understanding of autism. When a kid has a meltdown it’s often sensory overload which is a sign of autism or other similar neurological type differences. I’d be suing the everloving fuck out of some one over this. It’s not just unnecessary it shows a complete lack of understanding ANY kid, not just one with a sensory issue.

I think it all depends on the jurisdiction you are in and how willing a teacher is to call the cops on a child.

Why 9-Year-Old Boy With Autism Got Arrested at School

cnn.com

I don’t remember police ever getting called for school altercations when I was a kid. Well once, but that was in high school and was an actual stabbing.

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Citizen K  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:05:09pm

re: #257 The Ghost of a Flea

Social Darwinism is deep in the bones of modern America.

Scrape off the surface ornamentation and part of our carceral state is the idea that many people don’t deserve better.

Calvinist Predestination is one of the country’s great original sins, intertwined with its other great original sin, Slavery.

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:06:32pm

re: #218 sagehen

On Venus, Have We Got a Rabbi!

There’s apparently an actual rabbinic court that answers space questions.

If Sabbath is from sundown to sundown, does that mean on the space station Sabbath is only 90 minutes and it happens every 10.5 hours?
(answer: NO!! Sabbath on the space station follows Houston time. For Earthbound people where light/dark aren’t on a 24-hour cycle, Sabbath in Antarctica or above the Arctic circle follows your hometown sunset.)

If my great-great-grandson lives on Mars, how will he know when to observe Jewish holidays?
(answer: History holidays, like Hannukah or Purim or Shoah day, follow the Earth calendar. Season holidays, like New Year or a harvest festival, will follow a to-be-created Martian calendar. Sabbath is still every 7th day, even though the days are a slightly different length.)

Christians spent CENTURIES, and I do mean CENTURIES trying to figure out when to celebrate Easter. You’d think it would be as simple as “uhm, around the same time as when Jews celebrate Passover,” but NOPE. There’s a whole article about the Easter controversy in Wikipedia:

en.wikipedia.org

which leads down one path to Quartodecimanism
en.wikipedia.org

and then another path to “computus”, which is specifically about how to compute the date of Easter.
en.wikipedia.org

Many, many, many, many years of time were spent on this. *rolls eyes*

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:10:48pm

re: #259 Citizen K

Calvinist Predestination is one of the country’s great original sins, intertwined with its other great original sin, Slavery.

They’re related. Some of the most staunch promoters of Calvinism in the Southern Baptist Convention, like R.L. Dabney, were also slaveowners and staunch defenders of slavery. It should come as no surprise that some neo-Calvinists love them some Dabney and defend his utter horseshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:12:40pm

re: #260 mmmirele

the one thing I always liked about Easter is that it created the idea of a Moveable Feast that ended up being secularized into the idea of the Progressive Dinner, where guests move from house to house as the courses change throughout the meal.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:14:32pm

I’m surprised it took this long….. Such an asshole.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:15:26pm

re: #258 danarchy

I’m sure that’s part of it, but there is still a profound lack of understanding what autism actually is and how to constructively intervene in a meltdown. A big problem is that special education funding always takes a hit anytime a district runs low on funds.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:16:27pm

re: #263 Dave In Austin

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:19:04pm

re: #260 mmmirele

“Okay, we can celebrate Easter at the same time the Jews have passover.”

“No.”

“Why not?”

“Because fuck Jews. We need our own independent Easter time.”

“Okay, how about we do it a week before Passover?”

“No.”

“Why not?”

“Is too close to Passover. Too close to the Jews.”

“Fine. We’ll do it two weeks after then.”

“No! That’s too far away from Christmas!”

“Oh for fuck sakes! Then how about the third Friday in April each year?”

“No. Will be during Passover some years. Remember, fuck Jews!”

“So you’re saying we should pick a different day every damn year for Easter??”

“Yes, would be the easiest way.”

“No. No, it wouldn’t. Because I just gave you THREE EASIER FUCKING WAYS and you shot them all down!”

“Yes, because, fuck Jews!”

“Jesus fucking Christ.”

“Yes! That’s what it’s about. Celebrating resurrection of Jesus!”

“That’s not what I — You know what? Fuck this. I’m done. Figure your own shit out.”

“Why are you making this so difficult?”

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:19:58pm

re: #263 Dave In Austin

I’m surprised it took this long….. Such an asshole.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:20:43pm

re: #267 DodgerFan1988

I really hope these assholes don’t get Thunberg hurt.

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:29:55pm

re: #266 Eclectic Cyborg

And this is a very concise explanation of what took literally centuries to work out. But it was just that crazy from what I can see.

Ironically, for all the hooraw about settling the date of Easter, we don’t know exactly when Jesus was executed. Nor do we know for certain whether the Last Supper was a Passover meal (synoptic gospels) or something else, not specified (John). Apparently the earliest followers of Jesus didn’t find that to be especially important. I would suspect it became an issue once nascent Christianity was irreparably separated from Judaism, and for the reason you suggest.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:44:59pm

Everyone report that Dinesh tweet. Cow is right. It’s targeted harassment.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:46:28pm
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:49:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:53:12pm

jeebus

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:55:12pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:56:15pm
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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2019 • 1:58:42pm

re: #274 Charles Johnson

Like the motherfuckers can’t multi task, not for good of course, but evil? No problem.

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gocart mozart  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:00:10pm
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CleverToad  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:01:12pm

re: #213 The Pie Overlord!

Now for the NOMS

Now for the celebratory NOMs, some pain meds, and serious rest to brace yourself for tomorrow and the ongoing saga. Take care of yourself, caregiver!

You gots congratulations from King Arthur itself? We stand in awe…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:01:31pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Hey, Joe Bacon, my wife and I ran into you over at the Utah Outcasts live chat.

It was interesting to hear that the DSA in your area functions much differently than my “local” DSA here (yours seem to be a poo-flinging fest of purity ponies while mine wants to pry Trump out of the White House with a crowbar).

Anymouse, I find myself in the same damn situation with them as I did in 2016. With them it’s Bernie or Nothing and they are saying they will vote 3rd party especially if Warren is nominated. Incredible to see their absolute hatred of her.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:02:02pm
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:03:19pm

re: #279 Joe Bacon 🌹

Anymouse, I find myself in the same damn situation with them as I did in 2016. With them it’s Bernie or Nothing and they are saying they will vote 3rd party especially if Warren is nominated. Incredible to see their absolute hatred of her.

Pretty much anyone not Bernie, and their privilege is showing, for sure.

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:03:22pm

re: #271 Dave In Austin

Reported, thanks.

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b.d.  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:05:54pm

to be fair, it’s his date…//

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b.d.  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:06:37pm

re: #280 Charles Johnson

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Romney is Susan Collins without the blush.

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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:10:21pm

re: #256 A Mom Anon

White kids get calls from principals to medicate their kids, at least that’s what happened to us when The Kid was a little guy and the school had nothing in place for autistic kids. Or an even basic understanding of autism. When a kid has a meltdown it’s often sensory overload which is a sign of autism or other similar neurological type differences. I’d be suing the everloving fuck out of some one over this. It’s not just unnecessary it shows a complete lack of understanding ANY kid, not just one with a sensory issue.

We had them asking us to institutionalize our son (adopted from Vietnam so non-white.). Then Madison put in place rules that said anyone in middle-school and up that they called the cops about HAD to be taken to Juvie. We moved north at that point. The policy lasted till a White “A+” cheerleader girl with good PR got arrested for one of the usual bullshit reasons and her rich parents sued the shit out of the district. But the city still has a huge expensive juvie facility that they essentially expect the school district to keep full with minority and poor students in the pipeline to prison.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:11:22pm
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sagehen  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:12:04pm

re: #269 mmmirele

And this is a very concise explanation of what took literally centuries to work out. But it was just that crazy from what I can see.

Ironically, for all the hooraw about settling the date of Easter, we don’t know exactly when Jesus was executed. Nor do we know for certain whether the Last Supper was a Passover meal (synoptic gospels) or something else, not specified (John). Apparently the earliest followers of Jesus didn’t find that to be especially important. I would suspect it became an issue once nascent Christianity was irreparably separated from Judaism, and for the reason you suggest.

Jesus’ birthday couldn’t have been anywhere near the solstice, because there were lambs in the fields. That puts it at early Spring.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:12:10pm

re: #284 b.d.

Romney is Susan Collins without the blush.

At this point I suspect that GOPers that want to play the anti-Trump -but-not-really margin have a handbook of how to minimally perform disapproval but risk nothing solid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:13:43pm
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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:14:22pm

re: #258 danarchy

I think it all depends on the jurisdiction you are in and how willing a teacher is to call the cops on a child.

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I don’t remember police ever getting called for school altercations when I was a kid. Well once, but that was in high school and was an actual stabbing.

One thing I’ll say about Hayward is that even though they did have to call the cops on John a couple of times, the cop always was the voice of reason, discretion and deescalation. They would wait for us, between us all we’d get it sorted (and the school would sometimes admit a given teacher was the problem) and he’d end up going home for the day. After we finally got him into residential therapy for a year, these problems ended but it took us going to court and getting a court order before the state would pay for his therapy even though he was on Badgercare by then.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:16:26pm

“…The collapse of Thomas Cook would put 20,000 jobs at risk, including about 9,000 in the UK. The CAA could be forced to pick up some of the cost of covering the flights home of 150,000 UK customers abroad. Thomas Cook destinations range from mainland Europe to the Caribbean, the US and the Middle East.”
theguardian.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:16:48pm

We really should realize now the GOP will attack anyone if it suits them to: black people, veterans, jews, Muslims, immigrants. Even children and the disabled are not safe from the GOPs wrath.

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MsJ  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:19:47pm

re: #267 DodgerFan1988

He’s not gonna like that one. 😂

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Dread Pirate  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:19:51pm
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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:20:59pm

re: #291 jaunte

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“…The collapse of Thomas Cook would put 20,000 jobs at risk, including about 9,000 in the UK. The CAA could be forced to pick up some of the cost of covering the flights home of 150,000 UK customers abroad. Thomas Cook destinations range from mainland Europe to the Caribbean, the US and the Middle East.”
theguardian.com

Wow. I guess this is dress rehearsal for the chaos that will be Brexit in 39 days?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:21:22pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:23:44pm

re: #292 Eclectic Cyborg

We really should realize now the GOP will attack anyone if it suits them to: black people, veterans, jews, Muslims, immigrants. Even children and the disabled are not safe from the GOPs wrath.

Who are traitors and enemies will be updated in real time. The only thing that won’t change is that somebody will be targeted.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:26:42pm

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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I keep reading that as Howdy Doody. Surely Modi would have objected if he had known!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:31:04pm

re: #298 retired cynic

I keep reading that as Howdy Doody. Surely Modi would have objected if he had known!

Modi Doody?

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uriel  Sep 22, 2019 • 2:55:48pm
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John Hughes  Sep 23, 2019 • 6:09:12am

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

Don’t get it. There’s supposed to be something wrong with being anti-Fascist now?

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John Hughes  Sep 23, 2019 • 6:31:03am

re: #49 Dread Pirate

[ 3.5 magnitude earthquake ]
…and the Korean Geologic Service is reporting a typhoon approaching the coast.

… giant lizard rising from under the waves…


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