FBI Arrests Army Soldier for Allegedly Planning to Bomb Major American News Network

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We’re starting off the week with news of yet another far right terrorist (allegedly), a US soldier who discussed plans to bomb an unnamed major American news network, and kill presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke.

Just another day in Donald Trump’s America.

The FBI has arrested a U.S. soldier who allegedly discussed plans to bomb a major American news network, planned to travel to Ukraine to fight with violent far-right group Azov Battalion and allegedly distributed information online on how to build bombs. He also allegedly suggested targeting Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke.

According to charging documents in the case, Jarrett William Smith, who transferred to Fort Riley, Kansas, in July, joined the U.S. military only after first expressing his desire to fight in Ukraine.

On Aug. 19, 2019, Smith allegedly spoke with an FBI informant in an online chat group and discussed a plan for an attack inside the U.S., his search for more “radicals” like himself, and the possibility of killing members of the group Antifa.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:37:09am

Stochastic terrorism. The Trumpites are tuning up for November 2020.

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Targetpractice  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:38:04am

Y’know, try as I might, I can’t ever remember there ever being such a case like this or those past ones during the Obama years. Or even the Dubya years. I remember cases during the Clinton years, but those were generally in response to shit that was said about him rather than by him.

It’s almost like having a hate-spewing, gutter-dwelling shitstain of a human being in the White House leads people to think that this sort of thing is acceptable…

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prairiefire  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:40:19am

Oooof, Fort Riley. Weird place. I think some national drug dealing goes on around there. Crazy hyper cop vibe.

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jaunte  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:40:28am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:41:11am

But remember, it’s those poor Asylum seeking kids who are the REAL THREAT!

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jaunte  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:43:56am

And yet another white supremacist:

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jaunte  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:45:27am
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Targetpractice  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:45:56am

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Stochastic terrorism. The Trumpites are tuning up for November 2020.

I’ve never bought into the idea that Trump or his toadies are actively planning to stage an attack or in some way create a scenario where they’d then try to “postpone” or “cancel” the election next year, but I cannot for the life of me say that I find the idea that they wouldn’t try to take advantage of a domestic terror attack to do such totally impossible.

These nimrods have never struck me as overly great at planning things, but they have certainly impressed me with their ability to take advantage of otherwise adverse situations.

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William Lewis  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:46:04am

re: #3 prairiefire

Oooof, Fort Riley. Weird place. I think some national drug dealing goes on around there. Crazy hyper cop vibe.

It was a shit posting in 1984 let me tell you. I might have stayed in the Active Army except for the year of hell there. The Infantry BN next door had concertina around the windows of the barracks to keep the soldiers _IN_ the place; awol rates were horrific. Of course, during a January FTX that same BN had over 40% of their personnel go down with some form of cold injury like frost bite. Shit leadership & shit troops; if 1ID had gone into combat then we would have been slaughtered in minutes.

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Thanos  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:46:53am

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Them or that evil scary Thunberg kid! ///

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:48:39am

re: #10 Thanos

Them or that evil scary Thunberg kid! ///

Or six year olds in Florida classrooms.

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Thanos  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:51:19am

Here’s my recommended long read for the day:
newrepublic.com
an article about how a right wing campaign to change bullies into victims has become the “cancel culture.”

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b.d.  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:51:41am

Guys who want to kill you for taking away your guns need to have their guns taken away.

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prairiefire  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:51:50am

re: #9 William Lewis

It does look like a prison. There was a cop car waiting at every highway entrance and exits. Maybe for AWOLs, I thought it seemed like drugs. My work colleague got pulled over cuz I had a pill bottle in my hand for my Ear Infection and the fker saw it. I had my bloody pillow on my lap cuz my ear drum burst and he let us go. Kansas Krazy!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 23, 2019 • 11:57:15am
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lawhawk  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:01:27pm

Trump makes idiotic comments about how he’s this great arbitrator and totally ignores that Pakistan was where OBL was ultimately found and killed by a US raid in Abbottabad, which was down the road from a major Pakistani military base. He can’t keep up with his own bulkshit talking points - because he’s always got to make it about himself and how he’s the best/answer to everything, when he doesn’t have a clue about anything, and shows no interest in facts or logic, which are kind of necessary to being an arbitrator or negotiator mediator.

In fact, it’s part of the job description of being an arbitrator/mediator - to know the facts and circumstances and reach a consensus that works for everyone. Trump is supremely ignorant about everything and doesn’t listen to anyone who tells him what he doesn’t want to hear.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:01:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:04:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:04:28pm
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plansbandc  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:04:57pm

Loving this shirt that popped up in one of my FB groups…

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:05:56pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Yeah, it’s the mobster mentality that most troubles me, because they have no rock-bottom they can ever reach. No act is too evil, too depraved. They are not the cute Tony Soprano that people saw on HBO.

Trump marinated in the world of wiseguys, Vory v Zakone and his father’s neo-Nazi leanings.

We’re seeing how his instincts are to break the law and then grab his balls and shake them at the so-called “authorities,” daring them to try to hold him to account…

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:06:20pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

And the transgender people using public bathrooms.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:13:21pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

They had all better realize she’s Katniss Everdeen, and had better watch the end of the Hunger Games movies.

Fixed a spelling, thanks to Lawhawk.

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Skip Intro  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:14:57pm

Trump whines at UN the he’d have won a Nobel prize “for lots of things if they gave them out fairly, which they don’t.”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:16:07pm
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A Mom Anon  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:16:49pm

re: #23 Belafon

I’m seeing shit on my Facebook feed about how she’s being manipulated by her devious parents and that she isn’t that bright because of autism. My friend and follow lists keep getting smaller and smaller. And I honestly don’t give a fuck anymore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:20:02pm

re: #23 Belafon

They had all better realize she’s Katniss Aberdeen, and had better watch the end of the Hunger Games movies.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:21:02pm

re: #26 A Mom Anon

I’m seeing shit on my Facebook feed about how she’s being manipulated by her devious parents and that she isn’t that bright because of autism. My friend and follow lists keep getting smaller and smaller. And I honestly don’t give a fuck anymore.

She wouldn’t have delivered the lines she has admonishing the adults to do their jobs if she were. Of course her parents shaped her, but having had 16 year olds, she wouldn’t be doing this stuff that emphatically if she didn’t believe it.

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Citizen K  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:22:43pm

re: #26 A Mom Anon

I’m seeing shit on my Facebook feed about how she’s being manipulated by her devious parents and that she isn’t that bright because of autism. My friend and follow lists keep getting smaller and smaller. And I honestly don’t give a fuck anymore.

re: #28 Belafon

She wouldn’t have delivered the lines she has admonishing the adults to do their jobs if she were. Of course her parents shaped her, but having had 16 year olds, she wouldn’t be doing this stuff that emphatically if she didn’t believe it.

It’s all projection, just like everything else. They know most of their conservative wunderkinder are exactly what they accuse Greta of being, so they can’t perceive that a young activist like her actually is being sincere.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:23:30pm
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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:24:57pm

re: #24 Skip Intro

Trump whines at UN the he’d have won a Nobel prize “for lots of things if they gave them out fairly, which they don’t.”

is he talking a nobel for literature, physics, chemistry, economics or maybe medicine?

oh wait, he’s talking the peace prize right?

well here’s a clue: the process isn’t “fair”. it’s not designed to be.
to think “fairness’ enters into it is stupefyingly clueless

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:25:22pm

Fuck Jim Hoft and his shit filled hate blog.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:25:26pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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she’s autistic AND has Asperger Syndrome…

imagine that…

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lawhawk  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:25:44pm

re: #23 Belafon

They had all better realize she’s Katniss AberdeenEverdeen, and had better watch the end of the Hunger Games movies.

FTFY

Katniss Everdeen.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:25:50pm
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uncah91  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:26:31pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

She has autism and she suffers from Asperger’s? Woah, that’s amazingly tautological…

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Skip Intro  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:26:44pm

re: #31 DangerMan

“Fairness” is his excuse for everything. The 2016 election wasn’t going to be fair if he lost, and I have no doubt that he’ll use that again if he loses in 2020 when he refuses to leave.

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uncah91  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:27:20pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

GMTA?

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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:27:53pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

notice how they slid that in: concerned about climate = socialist

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:28:06pm

re: #38 uncah91

GMTA?

I know…the double whammy there has to be a heartbreaker//////////

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A Mom Anon  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:28:15pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s truly fucking hilarious is the notion that you could get a teenager on the autism spectrum to do any damned thing they truly didn’t want to do or believe in. Ask me how I know this, lol. That young lady is smarter than a barrel of wingnuts , but then so is an amoeba.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:29:13pm

I came to a sad realization the other day: I am likely part of the LAST generation of kids (I graduated the year of the Columbine shootings), either in the U.S. or Canada, that will NOT have to go through active shooter/lockdown drills at school.

That fucking infuriates me.

I NEVER worried about getting shot at school. Beat up? Maybe if I said the wrong thing to the wrong kid but that’s just school for you. But never shot. It didn’t even cross my mind.

Now I have nieces and nephews in my life and to think they will have to, as FIVE YEAR OLDS, start training for these kinds of things, is so disheartening. Even worse, I think about what would happen if I lost any of them in a school shooting. :(

Fuck gun culture.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:30:02pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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“if a Republican ever did what Joe Biden did … they’d be getting the electric chair right now,”

Trump is admitting he has committed crimes that deserve capital punishment, because he always projects his own bad acts on to others.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:30:17pm

re: #34 lawhawk

FTFY

Katniss Everdeen.

Thanks. Fixed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:32:46pm

re: #39 DangerMan

notice how they slid that in: concerned about climate = socialist

[Embedded content]

EXT. A small camp in the middle of a smoldering wasteland that used to be Kentucky. An OLD MAN with a rifle slung across his back and an American Flag patch on his jacket is talking to two young children who are eating small morsels of food that barely take up any room on their plates.

OLD MAN: Let me tell you kids how socialism ruined the world and caused all his. It began with the election of a great American President in 2016…

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:33:05pm

re: #39 DangerMan

notice how they slid that in: concerned about climate = socialist

How dare the young ones be concerned about their future when they won’t consider my present. ///

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:35:06pm
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Belafon  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:37:29pm

Her speech:

This is all wrong. I shouldn’t be standing here. I should be back in school on the other side of the ocean. Yet you all come to me for hope? How dare you! You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words. And yet I’m one of the lucky ones. People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. And all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth. How dare you!

For more than 30 years the science has been crystal clear. How dare you continue to look away, and come here saying that you are doing enough, when the politics and solutions needed are still nowhere in sight.

You say you “hear” us and that you understand the urgency. But no matter how sad and angry I am, I don’t want to believe that. Because if you fully understood the situation and still kept on failing to act, then you would be evil. And I refuse to believe that.

The popular idea of cutting our emissions in half in 10 years only gives us a 50% chance of staying below 1.5C degrees, and the risk of setting off irreversible chain reactions beyond human control.

Maybe 50% is acceptable to you. But those numbers don’t include tipping points, most feedback loops, additional warming hidden by toxic air pollution or the aspects of justice and equity. They also rely on my and my children’s generation sucking hundreds of billions of tonnes of your CO2 out of the air with technologies that barely exist. So a 50% risk is simply not acceptable to us - we who have to live with the consequences.

To have a 67% chance of staying below a 1.5C global temperature rise - the best odds given by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change - the world had 420 gigatonnes of carbon dioxide left to emit back on 1 January 2018. Today that figure is already down to less than 350 gigatonnes. How dare you pretend that this can be solved with business-as-usual and some technical solutions. With today’s emissions levels, that remaining CO2 budget will be entirely gone in less than eight and a half years.

There will not be any solutions or plans presented in line with these figures today. Because these numbers are too uncomfortable. And you are still not mature enough to tell it like it is.

You are failing us. But the young people are starting to understand your betrayal. The eyes of all future generations are upon you. And if you choose to fail us I say we will never forgive you. We will not let you get away with this. Right here, right now is where we draw the line. The world is waking up. And change is coming, whether you like it or not.

dailykos.com

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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:42:16pm

re: #48 Belafon

Her speech:

dailykos.com

Day-um.

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makeitstop  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:43:23pm

re: #48 Belafon

Her speech:

dailykos.com

The first line is missing:

‘My message is this: we are watching you.’

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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:46:02pm

re: #42 Eclectic Cyborg

I came to a sad realization the other day: I am likely part of the LAST generation of kids (I graduated the year of the Columbine shootings), either in the U.S. or Canada, that will NOT have to go through active shooter/lockdown drills at school.

That fucking infuriates me.

I NEVER worried about getting shot at school. Beat up? Maybe if I said the wrong thing to the wrong kid but that’s just school for you. But never shot. It didn’t even cross my mind.

Now I have nieces and nephews in my life and to think they will have to, as FIVE YEAR OLDS, start training for these kinds of things, is so disheartening. Even worse, I think about what would happen if I lost any of them in a school shooting. :(

Fuck gun culture.

you are right about all this.
i wonder though, if to the kids, it will seem normal.
they wont know any different

when i went to school air raid drills were a thing just like fire drills.
we never looked past it.

id guess that my teachers may have felt like you because when they were kids i dont think air raids were a thing (yet)

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Skip Intro  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:46:24pm

re: #43 The Pie Overlord!

Trump is admitting he has committed crimes that deserve capital punishment, because he always projects his own bad acts on to others.

He is and he has and I think we could retire the national debt if it was shown on pay per view.

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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:47:41pm

re: #43 The Pie Overlord!

“if a Republican ever did what Joe Biden did … they’d be getting the electric chair right now,”.

if biden ‘did something’ and trump knows what it is, then prosecute him

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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:48:49pm

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

EXT. A small camp in the middle of a smoldering wasteland that used to be Kentucky. An OLD MAN with a rifle slung across his back and an American Flag patch on his jacket is talking to two young children who are eating small morsels of food that barely take up any room on their plates.

OLD MAN: Let me tell you kids how socialism ruined the world and caused all his. It began with the election of a great American President in 2016…

plates survived? ;-)

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:49:45pm

re: #50 makeitstop

The first line is missing:

‘My message is this: we are watching you.’

That’s the speech she gave the Guardian according to the diary, which you can find here: theguardian.com. She might have added that.

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Skip Intro  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:50:11pm

re: #53 DangerMan

if biden ‘did something’ and trump knows what it is, then prosecute him

I thought it was Biden’s son who supposedly “did something”. Am I missing something?

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:50:43pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

I thought it was Biden’s son who supposedly “did something”. Am I missing something?

“A” Biden did something, therefore Joe is wrong.

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William Lewis  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:51:11pm

re: #54 DangerMan

plates survived? ;-)

A plastic one, perhaps? Or a bread trencher with a wooden spoon.

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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:51:38pm

re: #47 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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that logic is ‘if only everyone voted for bernie, he’d win’

you dont ‘deprive someone of winning’ by choosing to support someone else

if he’s good enough, he’ll win
if he doesn’t can’t attract enough support, well…..

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:51:43pm

re: #47 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

In case anyone was wondering, it’s definitely a real tweet. And not the only use of the hashtag

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BigPapa  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:52:37pm

re: #36 uncah91

She has autism and she suffers from Asperger’s? Woah, that’s amazingly tautological…

That’s like being killed by death.

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sizzzzlerz  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:54:31pm

re: #9 William Lewis

I know every profession has its own set of acronyms meant to act as a private language between colleagues but could you cut us civilians a break here and provide a decoder ring to your militiary speak:

BN, FTX, 1ID

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:54:47pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

I thought it was Biden’s son who supposedly “did something”. Am I missing something?

The allegation is that Joe Biden pressured Ukraine’s government to have a specific prosecutor removed in order to protect his son Hunter. That allegation falls apart when you realize that the prosecutor in question was never investigating Biden’s son, but instead an oligarch who was the CEO of a company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, and the investigation had quietly ended without charges being filed before Joe joined the broad international diplomatic push to have the prosecutor removed. The prosecutor in question was universally thought of as deeply corrupt, never once filed a high profile case, and was notorious for “investigating” targets so that he could shake them down for payoffs.

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Targetpractice  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:54:48pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

I thought it was Biden’s son who supposedly “did something”. Am I missing something?

Donny is a believer of the conspiracy theory that Faux has been promoting for years that the Ukrainian gov’t conspired with the Obama admin to falsify documents in order to accuse Paul Manafort of corruption.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:54:57pm
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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:55:44pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

I thought it was Biden’s son who supposedly “did something”. Am I missing something?

i cant explain anything that moron says or what he means.
it is what he said:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:56:08pm

re: #36 uncah91

She has autism and she suffers from Asperger’s? Woah, that’s amazingly tautological…

She has Asperger
It’s now listed as a subtype of autism spectrum disorder

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:56:57pm

re: #67 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

She has Asperger
It’s now listed as a subtype of autism spectrum disorder

That’s the tautology.

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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:57:19pm

re: #62 sizzzzlerz

I know every profession has its own set of acronyms meant to act as a private language between colleagues but could you cut us civilians a break here and provide a decryption ring to your militiary speak:

BN, FTX, 1ID

QFT ;-)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:57:27pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:58:03pm

re: #65 Dread Pirate

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According to the conspiracy theory, the documents used against Paul Manafort were fabricated or altered in order to accuse him of corruption as a way of forcing him to leave Trump’s presidential campaign. And since Paulie was friends with the Don, he sees it as an attack on him personally which Biden was either responsible for or an accomplice to.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:58:31pm

re: #62 sizzzzlerz

I know every profession has its own set of acronyms meant to act as a private language between colleagues but could you cut us civilians a break here and provide a decoder ring to your militiary speak:

BN, FTX, 1ID

I believe they are:
BN - batallion.
FTX - field training exercize
1|D - first division

Or maybe one division, as in any.

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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 12:59:22pm

re: #64 Targetpractice

Donny is a believer of the conspiracy theory that Faux has been promoting for years that the Ukrainian gov’t conspired with the Obama admin to falsify documents in order to accuse Paul Manafort of corruption.

like i said, if trump has the goods on biden, then prosecute.

since he doesnt, saying “if a Republican ever did what Joe Biden did” as if it were true, is just bullshit

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:01:04pm

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

Fuck Jim Hoft and his shit filled hate blog.

they really feel put out by a teenage girl with braids who will not stand for their bullshit

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:01:22pm

re: #54 DangerMan

plates survived? ;-)

Repurposed hub caps. :P

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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:03:05pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

Repurposed hub caps. :P

work that into the narrative and i think it’s a hit

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Dave In Austin  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:04:14pm
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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:04:22pm

re: #62 sizzzzlerz

I know every profession has its own set of acronyms meant to act as a private language between colleagues but could you cut us civilians a break here and provide a decoder ring to your militiary speak:

BN, FTX, 1ID

Battalion, Field Training Exercise, First Infantry Division

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William Lewis  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:06:59pm

re: #62 sizzzzlerz

I know every profession has its own set of acronyms meant to act as a private language between colleagues but could you cut us civilians a break here and provide a decoder ring to your militiary speak:

BN, FTX, 1ID

Sorry, slipped back into an earlier lifetime.

Battalion about 500 guys

FTX is Field Training Exercise where you spend a month pretending to do your real job.

1ID is 1st Infantry Division. About 10,000 men and women. Oldest Division in the Army.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:07:06pm

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

The allegation is that Joe Biden pressured Ukraine’s government to have a specific prosecutor removed in order to protect his son Hunter. That allegation falls apart when you realize that the prosecutor in question was never investigating Biden’s son, but instead an oligarch who was the CEO of a company Hunter Biden sat on the board of, and the investigation had quietly ended without charges being filed before Joe joined the broad international diplomatic push to have the prosecutor removed. The prosecutor in question was universally thought of as deeply corrupt, never once filed a high profile case, and was notorious for “investigating” targets so that he could shake them down for payoffs.

Also, after the corrupt prosecutor was removed his successor re-opened the investigation into the oligarch, only to close it a second time without filing any charges. There is no evidence whatsoever that Biden moved to have the second prosecutor removed or that second investigation reigned in. The truth is that Hunter was only ever tangentially related to any of this simply through his association and there was no allegation of wrongdoing ever leveled against him.

Lastly, it’s hypocritical as fuck for Trump to rail against “corruption in Ukraine” and try to use it as a weapon against Biden’s family while he kowtows to MBS in Saudi Arabia, KJU in North Korea, and while his adult children use the Trump properties to openly launder bribes from corrupt governments and meet with corrupt foreign leaders to pursue lucrative building contracts. Ivanka and Jared are sitting in the White House right now racking in Chinese patents after negotiating a badly needed bailout from the Emirates for his families 666 5th Avenue property.

The sheer gall of it all is just staggering to behold.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:07:12pm

re: #48 Belafon

You gotta watch it, reading it doesn’t really do it justice. Asperger Syndrome doesn’t make this an easy task either. And AS aside, she’s brave as fuck. Because the Nazi contingency is hellbent on her destruction. And they are not above destroying a kid and her family to do that. I hope they are prepared.

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Targetpractice  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:07:50pm

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they really feel put out by a teenage girl with braids who will not stand for their bullshit

It’s nothing new, they act this way any time a child or teen becomes the face of a movement for change. We saw it with the Parkland survivors who were accused of being pushed into supporting gun control by their parents.

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mmmirele  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:09:20pm

I asked a friend about the weird abuse allegations going around and…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:10:41pm

re: #79 William Lewis

Sorry, slipped back into an earlier lifetime.

Battalion about 500 guys

FTX is Field Training Exercise where you spend a month pretending to do your real job.

1ID is 1st Infantry Division. About 10,000 men and women. Oldest Division in the Army.

The BRO

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plansbandc  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:11:14pm

re: #42 Eclectic Cyborg

We had riots and bomb threats because of desegregation busing. So all was not peaceful.

But having to do shooter drills? That’s a whole other level of fucked up.

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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:11:17pm

re: #77 Dave In Austin

‘accountability’
- to this topic: we’ll fuck up the planet and let the kids try and save it

more in general:

- we’ll fight a war off book and let the next guy figure how to pay the bills
- tax cut for the rich, tank the economy, blame the next guy (rinse, repeat). oh wait, now we gotta gut social programs.
- guns. who ever takes fucking accountability for whatever their gun (or a gun they ‘sold’) does?

having a job and paying bills has what-the-fuck to do with social responsibility?

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Targetpractice  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:11:26pm

re: #77 Dave In Austin

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I do work, and I do pay my own bills. And I’ve watched as “cheap” energy has become more and more expensive as the companies that provide it keep making more and more excuses for why they have to keep jacking up the rates.

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Citizen K  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:12:11pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

It’s nothing new, they act this way any time a child or teen becomes the face of a movement for change. We saw it with the Parkland survivors who were accused of being pushed into supporting gun control by their parents.

And then as soon as one was all gung-ho about guns and conservatism, he became their new shining star. Even after (Especially after?) he got caught on racist tirades.

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William Lewis  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:12:41pm

re: #84 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The BRO

Yep. Big Red One from the red numeral on the divisional patch.

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Targetpractice  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:13:05pm

re: #86 DangerMan

‘accountability’
- to this topic: we’ll fuck up the planet and let the kids try and save it

more in general:

- we’ll fight a war off book and let the next guy figure how to pay the bills
- tax cut for the rich, tank the economy, blame the next guy (rinse, repeat). oh wait, now we gotta gut social programs.
- guns. who ever takes fucking accountability for whatever their gun (or a gun they ‘sold’) does?

having a job and paying bills has what-the-fuck to do with social responsibility?

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But don’t dare touch what is “theirs” or else you’re being a “socialist.”

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Skip Intro  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:13:51pm

re: #64 Targetpractice

Donny is a believer of the conspiracy theory that Faux has been promoting for years that the Ukrainian gov’t conspired with the Obama admin to falsify documents in order to accuse Paul Manafort of corruption.

Is it really only Monday?

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plansbandc  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:13:54pm

re: #47 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That one is hot garbage. Absolutely vile.

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Targetpractice  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:16:01pm

My favorite are those wingnuts who genuinely believe that they’ve a “right” to SS or Medicare because “I paid for it!” You know, as though there as this big account with their name on it that has been quietly accruing interest for decades and now they’re just cashing it out.

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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:18:52pm

re: #92 plansbandc

That one is hot garbage. Absolutely vile.

White privilege, thy name is Bernie Bro.

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mmmirele  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:19:00pm

re: #26 A Mom Anon

I’m seeing shit on my Facebook feed about how she’s being manipulated by her devious parents and that she isn’t that bright because of autism. My friend and follow lists keep getting smaller and smaller. And I honestly don’t give a fuck anymore.

Being on the autism spectrum doesn’t mean you’re not intelligent. Some autistic people (like me) are very intelligent but can be socially clueless. I always hated being told I wasn’t working up to my potential.

I think it’s great Thunberg has done so much despite the autism. I’d note that she wasn’t diagnosed until a couple of years ago, which is another data point on how autism manifests differently in girls than in boys and is diagnosed much later than boys.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:19:16pm

re: #86 DangerMan

‘accountability’
- to this topic: we’ll fuck up the planet and let the kids try and save it

more in general:

- we’ll fight a war off book and let the next guy figure how to pay the bills
- tax cut for the rich, tank the economy, blame the next guy (rinse, repeat). oh wait, now we gotta gut social programs.
- guns. who ever takes fucking accountability for whatever their gun (or a gun they ‘sold’) does?

having a job and paying bills has what-the-fuck to do with social responsibility?

Monday doesn’t get responsibility, and therefore shouldn’t be allowed to have anything until they understand the concept.

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plansbandc  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:19:59pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:20:06pm

Bold threats again.

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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:20:50pm

re: #95 mmmirele

Being on the autism spectrum doesn’t mean you’re not intelligent. Some autistic people (like me) are very intelligent but can be socially clueless. I always hated being told I wasn’t working up to my potential.

I think it’s great Thunberg has done so much despite the autism. I’d note that she wasn’t diagnosed until a couple of years ago, which is another data point on how autism manifests differently in girls than in boys and is diagnosed much later than boys.

And isn’t it spelled “Asberger’s”?

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KGxvi  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:24:36pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate

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Bold threats again.

Threats mean nothing unless you are willing to back them up. Send the subpoenas with copies of articles of impeachment for everyone that can be impeached.

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b.d.  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:24:37pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate

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Bold threats again.

OMG! Not subpoenas that they will blow off!!!!

Oh the humanity!!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:25:49pm

re: #89 William Lewis

Yep. Big Red One from the red numeral on the divisional patch.

And, just like that, twitter delivers

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mmmirele  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:28:51pm

re: #99 austin_blue

And isn’t it spelled “Asberger’s”?

Asperger’s, but that term has been deprecated in favor of autism spectrum disorder.

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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:29:35pm

re: #103 mmmirele

Asperger’s, but that term has been deprecated in favor of autism spectrum disorder.

Thanks!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:30:18pm
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MsJ  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:32:45pm
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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:33:19pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lots of Europeans have got a Moor in the woodpile through Sicily or Spain.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:33:38pm

re: #99 austin_blue

And isn’t it spelled “Asberger’s”?

Asperger’s does not prevent someone from being brilliant and successful; indeed they can often focus and understand details that would overwhelm the rest of us. One person profiled in Michael Lewis “The Big Short” was an M.D. with Asperger’s who read financial statements, comprehended their underlying flaws, and made a fortune on shorting certain securities.

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KGxvi  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:33:50pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well then, I can assume the acting Sec of DHS (because they’re all “acting” at this point) will be asked to clean out his desk by the close of business today?

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Citizen K  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:34:11pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

More importantly, I’m still waiting to see if the DHS classification lasts more than a couple weeks. Remember when the FBI classed the Proud Boys as an extremist group, then two weeks later rescinded that and said it was the result of a ‘miscommunication’?

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Dread Pirate  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:35:35pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:38:04pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate

Bold threats again.

Gaah.

With the way things are going now, Trump’s re-election is all but assured.

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KGxvi  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:40:14pm

re: #112 Eric The Fruit Bat

Gaah.

With the way things are going now, Trump’s re-election is all but assured.

This is one of those times that having something akin to the UK’s Liberal Democrats would be useful in American politics: a third party that can call bullshit on nominal political allies.

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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:41:07pm

re: #107 austin_blue

Lots of Europeans have got a Moor in the woodpile through Sicily or Spain.

unless we’re literally talking biology and science, race is a meaningless and arbitrary cultural construct. it’s totally made up and has no ‘actual’ definers. only ‘apparent’ ones.

anyone who travels in that kind of thought, using it for making assumptions, decisions, etc, goes right into the crackpot category for me.

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Citizen K  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:41:36pm

“What about ‘Both Sides, Same Thing!!’ do you stupid libs not get, HRM?!”

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Jay C  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:43:10pm

re: #106 MsJ

“hamburger ban” and “socialist”.
Jeez, can’t these people even come up with some new cliches?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:44:50pm

re: #113 KGxvi

This is one of those times that having something akin to the UK’s Liberal Democrats would be useful in American politics: a third party that can call bullshit on nominal political allies.

Unfortunately, a significantly meaningful third party in the US is not going to happen - and when one surfaced, it lead to the nightmare we are living in.

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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:51:00pm

re: #114 DangerMan

unless we’re literally talking biology and science, race is a meaningless and arbitrary cultural construct. it’s totally made up and has no ‘actual’ definers. only ‘apparent’ ones.

anyone who travels in that kind of thought, using it for making assumptions, decisions, etc, goes right into the crackpot category for me.

Exactly. My parents were German and Irish, but the Irish were Europe’s mercenaries for centuries and many of the Spanish Armada’s ships foundered off the Irish west coast as they tried to get back to Spain. Many of the rescued sailors liked the place (good Catholic country and all). I wouldn’t be at all surprised if I had a drop or two of Moorish blood in my veins.

And really, who the hell cares about this except for creepy fanatics?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 23, 2019 • 1:58:22pm

re: #118 austin_blue

Exactly. My parents were German and Irish, but the Irish were Europe’s mercenaries for centuries and many of the Spanish Armada’s ships foundered off the Irish west coast as they tried to get back to Spain. Many of the rescued sailors liked the place (good Catholic country and all). I wouldn’t be at all surprised if I had a drop or two of Moorish blood in my veins.

And really, who the hell cares about this except for creepy fanatics?

In one real sense the story of Adam and Eve is true: if you go back far enough, we are all related to each other — descended from common ancestors from Africa.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:00:16pm
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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:00:48pm

re: #118 austin_blue

Exactly. My parents were German and Irish, but the Irish were Europe’s mercenaries for centuries and many of the Spanish Armada’s ships foundered off the Irish west coast as they tried to get back to Spain. Many of the rescued sailors liked the place (good Catholic country and all). I wouldn’t be at all surprised if I had a drop or two of Moorish blood in my veins.

And really, who the hell cares about this except for creepy fanatics?

exactly
is it culture and traditions, is it language and customs
is it where you came from
is it when you came from there
is it how long you predecessors were there
is it blood
is it dna
or, gasp, food
if you were literally abducted at birth and raised elsewhere and elsewise, which are you? (obvious physical traits notwithstanding)

how do you even know?
what your parents and family told you?
even dna tests don’t tell a full story

the whole thing is idiotic

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:03:06pm
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austin_blue  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:04:30pm

re: #121 DangerMan

exactly
is it culture and traditions, is it language and customs
is it where you came from
is it when you came from there
is it how long you predecessors were there
is it blood
is it dna
or, gasp, food
if you were literally abducted at birth and raised elsewhere and elsewise, which are you? (obvious physical traits notwithstanding)

how do you even know?
what your parents and family told you?
even dna tests don’t tell a full story

the whole thing is idiotic

And yet, people will fight over it to the death. I think it may have something with inciting the rubes on the left side of the old IQ bell curve. Worked a treat in Germany.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:05:18pm
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KGxvi  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:05:32pm

re: #119 Hecuba’s daughter

In one real sense the story of Adam and Eve is true: if you go back far enough, we are all related to each other — descended from common ancestors from Africa.

I believe they’ve pinpointed (as much as one can) the Mitochondrial Eve to somewhere around 150,000 years ago. The Mitochondrial Adam is a bit harder to pinpoint, and range anywhere from 180,000 years ago to 520,000 years ago.

Apparently the common ancestor of Homo Sapiens and Neanderthal is around 580,000 years ago.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:09:46pm

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

Replies to Mcconnells tweet do not disappoint.

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DangerMan  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:11:47pm

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

re: #120 The Pie Overlord!

contrast these two, re “There’s no bottom, no shame.”

mcconnell is ruthless and knows exactly what he’s doing all the time. an evil political genius, as it were.

trump is clueless. he doesnt plan. about anything. he just does whatever he wants and then tries to justify it later. shame requires a personality and a conscience. he’s just a sociopath.

he didnt read the mueller report and ‘decide’ three days later to get on the call with Ukraine, etc. he just did it.

it blew up a week ago. it might never have

now he / they are just looking for a narrative before the next thing happens.

there aint no plan. there’s never a plan. it’s explain, obfuscate, delay, blow smoke and use mirrors. nothing more. and at doing that, he is a bit of a savant.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:15:26pm

re: #61 BigPapa

That’s like being killed by death.

Motörhead ♠ Killed By Death ♠

Had to be done. Please excuse the gratuitous use of zebra-striped spandex tights.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:22:51pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:24:59pm

Wow. Lemmy killed the thread.

He would be very proud to have done so.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:26:09pm

JFC. It’s all so awful. Hey guys. Finally got my phone fixed. Busy with work and play. Hope all is well on a personal level even if our country has gone nuts.

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Skip Intro  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:26:28pm

re: #127 DangerMan

Trump knows the Republicans and the media will always provide cover to him.

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Belafon  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:26:47pm

re: #129 Dread Pirate

Which has theoretically always been true, we’ve just never elected someone who decided try it all the time.

Oh, and Roberts will declare that Democrats can’t do it after January, 2021.

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BigPapa  Sep 23, 2019 • 2:40:31pm

re: #128 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

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Video

Had to be done. Please excuse the gratuitous use of zebra-striped spandex tights.

First concert ever: Motorhead and Mercyful Fate. And some other band.

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Sinistershade  Sep 23, 2019 • 3:03:03pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

“It’s like, how much more white could this be, and the answer is none. None more white.”

—Nigel Tufnel (paraphrased)


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