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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:31:10am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:31:57am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:33:55am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Oh, so if the “special” “counsel” says someone is guilty, they’re guilty? Is that it?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:34:37am

re: #1 Belafon

Collins was only a coffee boy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:35:04am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Sir John Barron  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:37:42am

re: #5 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s true, I sure miss Speaker Gingrich’s totally non-bi-partisan impeachment process, that wasn’t based on a Whitewater like witch hunt fishing expedition that took years and went back decades.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:40:50am

re: #5 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes, such a lynch mob this gang of lynchers in Congress is, this *checks notes*, Speaker Pelosi and Intelligence Chairman Schiff.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:48:35am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:49:51am
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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:50:10am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

guy in the back on the right is trying hard not to laugh

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:51:04am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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HUNTER BIDEN ONLY GOT WHAT HE GOT BECAUSE HIS DAD WAS VP. NOW EXCUSE ME WHILE I SWEAR IN SOME GUY NAMED SCALIA

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:52:35am

Oh, hell. Now we got to deal with ANOTHER Scalia?

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 11:54:55am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, hell. Now we got to deal with ANOTHER Scalia?

This one won’t be in government for as long and won’t be able to do as much damage.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:00:19pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:00:26pm

Not that he’ll ever read it:

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:01:31pm

I’m finding it difficult to get used to using “them” and “their” instead of gendered pronouns when a person isn’t identified.

My inner grammar nazi gets upset about misusing a plural word every time I try.

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:03:33pm

WATCH OUT TULSI!!!

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sagehen  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:05:42pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I’m finding it difficult to get used to using “them” and “their” instead of gendered pronouns when a person isn’t identified.

My inner grammar nazi gets upset about misusing a plural word every time I try.

Try s/he to indicate uncertainty.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:06:59pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Well, there’s always “it”.

This is a real problem with English. We don’t have a neutral pronoun.

At least in Japanese one can speak of a person as just a person.

But in English, we have to conjoin words, such as “that person” or “this person”.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:07:23pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I’m finding it difficult to get used to using “them” and “their” instead of gendered pronouns when a person isn’t identified.

My inner grammar nazi gets upset about misusing a plural word every time I try.

I did for a while, too.

Then I realized it felt better to make other people happy to be called what they wanted to be called, more than it did to insist on following a fairly arbitrary grammar rule that’s rapidly changing anyway.

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:08:54pm

Welp, this gets worse and worse.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:12:49pm

re: #11 b.d.

HUNTER BIDEN ONLY GOT WHAT HE GOT BECAUSE HIS DAD WAS VP. NOW EXCUSE ME WHILE I SWEAR IN SOME GUY NAMED SCALIA

…chao
…trump
…trump
…trump
&
…trump
shall we go for the non-namesakes next?

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mmmirele  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:13:25pm

re: #15 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Al is an Asshat.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:13:32pm

This should be added as an article of impeachment.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:13:52pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I’m finding it difficult to get used to using “them” and “their” instead of gendered pronouns when a person isn’t identified.

My inner grammar nazi gets upset about misusing a plural word every time I try.

we dont mind

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:14:28pm

re: #17 b.d.

WATCH OUT TULSI!!!

NEWS: @GovJVentura is considering a presidential run as an independent.

“I have that voice in the back of my head that says, ‘if not me, then who’?

who?
i have a list

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:14:37pm

Lots of info in that poll link…..

Haven’t digested it yet.

The trend is your friend

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calochortus  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:16:07pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I’m finding it difficult to get used to using “them” and “their” instead of gendered pronouns when a person isn’t identified.

My inner grammar nazi gets upset about misusing a plural word every time I try.

On the other hand “you” used to be plural, hence “Bob, are you going with us?” Instead of “Bob, is you going with us?” You’d never say “Bob are going with us.” It’s the “you” that make singular plural, as it were.

And yeah, I have an inner grammar Nazi too.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:17:17pm

The similarities between RWNJ militias and Al Qaeda are a frequent subject of comment and mockery. If/when they do start their pogrom, there will be another: Their most damaging acts will result from suicide attacks. They won’t wear bomb belts or make pre-martyrdom videos but only a hard core of suicidal nut-cakes will be willing to take real action. A cell that storms a federal office building or military base will be eradicated whether they actually plan to be or not. The only question is how much damage they can do in the meantime.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:18:14pm

Another one who likely won’t bother to ever read:

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:18:23pm

re: #24 Dread Pirate

wb really deserves some kudos

via politicalwire.com

The Daily reports that before the whistleblower filed a formal complaint with inspector general for the Intelligence Community, he or she tried to do it through the CIA’s internal watchdog system.

But the White House found out and quashed it. So the whistleblower escalated.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:19:06pm

re: #27 b.d.

Lots of info in that poll link…..

Haven’t digested it yet.

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The trend is your friend

evidence will do that

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mmmirele  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:19:45pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I’m finding it difficult to get used to using “them” and “their” instead of gendered pronouns when a person isn’t identified.

My inner grammar nazi gets upset about misusing a plural word every time I try.

I have to write reports where, sometimes, the issue is due to the actions of a specific person. I am not permitted to identify the person directly. Instead we identify by group and use they/them pronouns. I’ve done this for over a decade so I’m used to it-in reports. When talking to someone directly who uses they/them pronouns, I stumble and babble.

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mmmirele  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:25:13pm

re: #30 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Jack Graham is a real piece of work.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:26:28pm

“The Daily reports that before the whistleblower filed a formal complaint with inspector general for the Intelligence Community, he or she tried to do it through the CIA’s internal watchdog system.

But the White House found out and quashed it.”

This definitely seems like Watergate level fuckery,

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:28:57pm
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uncah91  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:29:06pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I’m finding it difficult to get used to using “them” and “their” instead of gendered pronouns when a person isn’t identified.

My inner grammar nazi gets upset about misusing a plural word every time I try.

I know what you mean, and it can be uncomfortable, but the way you are stating it isn’t actually true.

Example:
A : “My friend is joining us for dinner.”
B: “Oh? How are they getting here?”

It’s not your grammar nazi so much as hearing it deployed in a manner that is unfamiliar to you. It’s also worth noting that the word “you” used to be strictly plural and it’s usage changed to ambiguous (plural or singular) over time (replacing thou).

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:29:21pm
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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:29:50pm

From NBC:

“Now there are growing fears among people close to Trump that Bolton and his allies are poised to inflict the most damage on the president given his unceremonious exit from the White House and how much he knows from his 17 months there.

“They know where a lot of the bodies are buried,” one person close to the White House said.”

what’s a bigger danger to trump right now?
- bolton trying to hurt him
- rudy trying to help him

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:31:01pm

re: #39 DangerMan

From NBC:

what’s a bigger danger to trump right now?
- bolton trying to hurt him
- rudy trying to help him

Bolton still needs wingnut welfare, he’ll say little of value….

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Dread Pirate  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:32:04pm
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Danack  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:32:40pm

If the season finale has John fucking Bolton becoming the hero of the story, I don’t know whether the script writers need awards, or to be never allowed to work again.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:36:20pm

re: #42 Danack

If the season finale has John fucking Bolton becoming the hero of the story, I don’t know whether the script writers need awards, or to be never allowed to work again.

bolton is a patriot
sure he has a (to us) perverse idea of what american interests are and how to protect them
and he knows trump is reckless, careless with those american interests
something’s gotta give (maybe)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:36:22pm

re: #34 mmmirele

Jack Graham is a real piece of work.

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Fuck these Pulpit pimps!

TAX THE CHURCHES!!!!!!

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:37:05pm

re: #20 i(m)p(each)sos

I did for a while, too.

Then I realized it felt better to make other people happy to be called what they wanted to be called, more than it did to insist on following a fairly arbitrary grammar rule that’s rapidly changing anyway.

Especially since it used to be the norm to use “they” and “them” at one point.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:37:33pm

I have long used they/them/their to avoid the clumsy-sounding “he or she/him or her/his or her” construction, but that is for stylistic purposes, grammar be damned. Gender awareness plays little role in such considerations.

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calochortus  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:37:41pm

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

“The Daily reports that before the whistleblower filed a formal complaint with inspector general for the Intelligence Community, he or she tried to do it through the CIA’s internal watchdog system.

But the White House found out and quashed it.”

This definitely seems like Watergate level fuckery,

Apparently the whistleblower had to do it through the CIA. For nat’l security agencies it isn’t possible to legally go directly to Congress.

From NPR:

“…the Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act allows workers to report wrongdoing they see in their agencies directly to members of Congress. But there are different rules for people who work in national security.

“If you work in the intelligence community you must bring your concern to the inspector general before you can go to Congress,” he says, whereas an employee at the Department of Housing and Urban Development, for example, “can go right to [their] member of Congress or the committee that has jurisdiction over housing” and report their concerns. “Those are two major differences, as we’re seeing play out,” Colapinto says.”

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:39:18pm

re: #47 calochortus

Apparently the whistleblower had to do it through the CIA. For nat’l security agencies it isn’t possible to legally go directly to Congress.

From NPR:

I predict a change in the law, once the orange maggot is out of office.

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CleverToad  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:41:23pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I’m finding it difficult to get used to using “them” and “their” instead of gendered pronouns when a person isn’t identified.

My inner grammar nazi gets upset about misusing a plural word every time I try.

Ditto. I’m old.
I understand the reasoning. I will respect the people who have asked for this usage as their preference. I’ll get used to hearing it in a few years. It will take me a loooong time to use this convention without the awkward double-think of ‘wait, that sounds wrong/no, that’s how you’re supposed to say it…’

I accept the need for singular ‘they.’

Single-space after a period? Now there, ain’t nobody gonna make my fingers stop typing it that way. And don’t even get me started on not underlining book titles when they can’t even make up their dang minds up about italics vs. quotes…

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:43:30pm

House Minority Leader McCarthy: “Pelosi Doesn’t Speak for America on Impeachment”

tell me kevin, McConnell has been gumming up the works for a couple of years now

does he ‘speak for America’ or only part of it?

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:45:33pm

re: #39 DangerMan

From NBC:

what’s a bigger danger to trump right now?
- bolton trying to hurt him
- rudy trying to help him

Please let it be both. Please.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:46:32pm

re: #24 Dread Pirate

Pelosi: “let’s keep the impeachment inquiry narrowly focused”

Trump: “no!!! I’m going to openly do all the crimes!!!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:47:23pm

re: #50 DangerMan

House Minority Leader McCarthy: “Pelosi Doesn’t Speak for America on Impeachment”

tell me kevin, McConnell has been gumming up the works for a couple of years now

does he ‘speak for America’ or only part of it?

she speaks for people who voted for democrats, who, despite the tweaked and gerrymandered representative outcomes, still comprise the majority of voters in the USofA

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uncah91  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:47:52pm

re: #49 CleverToad

I accept the need for singular ‘they.’

You even already use the singular they (see my comment above), anytime you are unaware of the gender of the individual to which you are referring. (Note the disagreement of subject-verb tense here, as well.)

You just aren’t used to using it in this specific situation. It is a change in usage, and changes to our native language tend to make us uncomfortable. This is pretty normal.

But I think it’s incorrect to fall back on the idea that it’s because we are violating some “rule”, if that makes any sense.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:48:20pm

re: #49 CleverToad

Ditto. I’m old.
I understand the reasoning. I will respect the people who have asked for this usage as their preference. I’ll get used to hearing it in a few years. It will take me a loooong time to use this convention without the awkward double-think of ‘wait, that sounds wrong/no, that’s how you’re supposed to say it…’

I accept the need for singular ‘they.’

Single-space after a period? Now there, ain’t nobody gonna make my fingers stop typing it that way. And don’t even get me started on not underlining book titles when they can’t even make up their dang minds up about italics vs. quotes…

The one grammar thing I haven’t figured out is how to describe someone who has switched genders when the part of the story is about them transitioning. I was trying to tell my mom about one of my son’s friends, who she had met before the transition, and my mom has enough trouble anyway with using the pronoun the person wants to use now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:48:51pm

re: #54 uncah91

You even already use the singular they (see my comment above), anytime you are unaware of the gender of the individual to which you are referring. (Note the disagreement of subject-verb tense here, as well.)

you is be crayzee

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:49:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:52:32pm
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uncah91  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:53:14pm

re: #55 Belafon

I think you can use the sort-of-clumsy-but-that-is -the-point construction “sex assigned at birth”.

“She was still being identified by her sex assigned at birth of male.” Yeah, very clumsy, but it enhances clarity. But I could be wrong about the currently preferred language.

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piratedan  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:55:05pm

have to admit, Nonna Pelosi knows her subject matter, she continues to try and show restraint and reasonableness and Trump just keeps stepping on rakes and continuously implicating additional culprits and crimes. She’ll only need to call one witness, DJT… who will gladly take the stand thinking that he’s gonna exonerate himself and will hang himself instead.

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uncah91  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:55:46pm

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The thing about AAVE is that it is actually consistent on subject-verb agreement on this front, where is most other American dialects aren’t.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:55:51pm

Shit’s gettin’ real now.

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:57:15pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Shit’s gettin’ real now.

Can’t wait to see what they’ll do when Rudy tells them to Fuck off.

I hope beyond all hope that they throw his ass in the pokey.

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Jay C  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:57:24pm

re: #50 DangerMan

House Minority Leader McCarthy: “Pelosi Doesn’t Speak for America on Impeachment”

tell me kevin, McConnell has been gumming up the works for a couple of years now

does he ‘speak for America’ or only part of it?

Standard GOP line: the minority Party with the nominal allegiance of only about 35% of the electorate (at the outside) are the only ones who have any authority to “speak for America”. Because big political reasons. And God. Or whatever

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:58:00pm

re: #60 piratedan

have to admit, Nonna Pelosi knows her subject matter, she continues to try and show restraint and reasonableness and Trump just keeps stepping on rakes and continuously implicating additional culprits and crimes. She’ll only need to call one witness, DJT… who will gladly take the stand thinking that he’s gonna exonerate himself and will hang himself instead.

“She’s just a woman!” - Trump’s last words

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 12:59:46pm

so full of shit

and then this:

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:00:18pm

Leopards and spots and stuff.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:04:27pm

re: #19 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Well, there’s always “it”.

This is a real problem with English. We don’t have a neutral pronoun.

At least in Japanese one can speak of a person as just a person.

But in English, we have to conjoin words, such as “that person” or “this person”.

And pronouns are often unnecessary once context is established.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:04:35pm

re: #67 MsJ

Leopards and spots and stuff.

I’m just curious who these mythical Democrats she’s trying to attract that are also against impeachment.

They’re called Republicans, Tulsi, and they’re not going to vote for you in the general election.

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:06:38pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:11:00pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:11:17pm

re: #69 Belafon

I’m just curious who these mythical Democrats she’s trying to attract that are also against impeachment.

Russia’s propaganda machine discovers 2020 Democratic candidate Tulsi Gabbard

Also:

Russia takes side of Democratic 2020 candidate in row with British investigator over war crimes

Russia has publicly supported 2020 Democratic candidate Tulsi Gabbard after a British investigative journalist covering the Kremlin described her stance on the Syrian conflict as “self-contradictory” and an “error filled mess”.

In a tweet posted on its account on Monday morning, the Russian embassy in South Africa appeared to support the Hawaii Democrat while attacking Eliot Higgins, founder of the open source investigative site Bellingcat, which has investigated the country’s involvement in the Syrian airstrikes, as well as the downing of the MH17 passenger plane over Ukraine and the poison attack against former Russian military intelligence officer Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia in Salisbury last year.

[…]

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:13:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:14:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:15:01pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:17:04pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

“Your failure or refusal to comply with the subpoena, including at the direction or behest of the President or the White House, shall constitute evidence of obstruction of the House’s impeachment inquiry, and may be used as an adverse inference against you and the President.”

It’s not a threat to cram the House ceremonial mace up Rudy’s ass if he obstructs, but it will do.

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calochortus  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:17:24pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

so full of shit

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So, the stuff that is already made here may continue to be made here for a while?
Winning! I guess.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:18:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:20:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:20:48pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:22:13pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:23:02pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Look how empty that desktop is. Fucker doesn’t do any work at all.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:24:48pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

The core of the party isn’t going to let him lose a nomination. Will enough of the remaining GOP not vote for him in the general, allowing a Democrat to win?

They need someone to act like Teddy Roosevelt.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:25:00pm

re: #76 EPR-radar

“Your failure or refusal to comply with the subpoena, including at the direction or behest of the President or the White House, shall constitute evidence of obstruction of the House’s impeachment inquiry, and may be used as an adverse inference against you and the President.”

It’s not a threat to cram the House ceremonial mace up Rudy’s ass if he obstructs, but it will do.

Right - but the Democrats have to actually do it.

It’s going to be a test of how serious they are, because it’s guaranteed Giuliani will not comply.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:25:02pm

*snerk*

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:26:02pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Mac Pro is already assembled in TX. Since Obama. Apple was going to move production overseas because of the tariffs. But they were able to secure an exemption, so it’s business as usual. Trump trying to take credit for something he has nothing to do with. Surprise.

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piratedan  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:26:25pm

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

in a way, I’m happy he’ as lazy as he is, imagine if he was as productive as Nancy Smash, all the oldsters would be in labor camps and they’d be picking amongst the most beautiful to be their “personal attendants” with the Constitution abolished and what remains of the press corps that aren’t totally in the bag for him “kashoggi’d”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:26:30pm

re: #81 Dread Pirate

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JFC. He really believes foreign leaders are supposed to help him in avoiding accountability.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:30:10pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:31:19pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

JFC. He really believes foreign leaders are supposed to help him in avoiding accountability.

This actually makes perfect sense in a twisted way. Trump is the greatest projectionist of all time, so he sees all other world leaders as being just as corrupt as he is.

In some cases (Saudi Arabia and North Korea), Trump’s expectations align with reality. These are the leaders he gets along with most easily.

But any honest foreign leader trying to do a difficult job? Forget about it. Trump has no comprehension of how such a person could exist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:31:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:32:17pm
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Jay C  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:32:53pm

re: #83 Belafon

They need someone to act like Teddy Roosevelt.

You mean, draw off enough votes so that the “regular” Republican ends up with bupkis in the EC, and the Dem takes the election in a romp?

Works for me…..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:33:04pm

re: #90 EPR-radar

This actually makes perfect sense in a twisted way. Trump is the greatest projectionist of all time, so he sees all other world leaders as being just as corrupt as he is.

In some cases (Saudi Arabia and North Korea), Trump’s expectations align with reality. These are the leaders he gets along with most easily.

But any honest foreign leader trying to do a difficult job? Forget about it. Trump has no comprehension of how such a person could exist.

Nailed it.

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EPR-radar  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:33:22pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s getting to the point where it is logically impossible to ‘smear’ Trump.

A smear must be false and defamatory, and we really are rapidly running out of horrible things to say about Trump that are false.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:33:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:34:03pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:35:06pm

MSNBC saying Pompeo listened in on the Ukraine call…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:36:05pm

re: #98 Joe Bacon 🌹

MSNBC saying Pompeo listened in on the Ukraine call…

Pompeo can be impeached with him and share a bunk.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:36:43pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hate it that wacko is a voice of reason there but here we are.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:37:51pm

wsj.com

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was among administration officials who listened in on the July 25 phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a senior State Department official said Monday, a disclosure that ties the State Department more closely to the House impeachment inquiry.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:38:24pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

He’s going for the impeachable offenses record, folks.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:38:48pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

It was Australia Trump’s first coffee fetcher bragged to that got the Mueller report started.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:40:35pm

re: #102 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s going for the impeachable offenses record, folks.

Well at this right, he will get record ratings, for his criminal trial.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:40:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:42:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:43:22pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I have ancestors from Fermanagh. Boris seems eager to be the worst thing to happen to the Irish people in a long time.

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Jay C  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:45:57pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I have ancestors from Fermanagh. Boris seems eager to be the worst thing to happen to the Irish people in a long time.

Well, he seems to be making a determined effort to be “the worst thing to happen to the British people in a long time” - maybe he doesn’t want the Irish to feel left out…

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:46:18pm

Leave me the fuck alone when I’m trying to row!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:46:50pm

re: #108 Jay C

Well, he seems to be making a determined effort to be “the worst thing to happen to the British people in a long time” - maybe he doesn’t want the Irish to feel left out…

Ha true.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:48:29pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

I think Mueller tried to stay as neutral as possible to avoid something like this, even though we all knew it would always be an option for Trump.

Pelosi should announce that the Mueller report was so two weeks ago.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:48:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:48:46pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:49:47pm

Pompousass speaketh before the latest WSJ bombshell!

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:50:52pm

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area on this Rosh Hashanah. Shul had extra police on hand, both outside and inside the building. The ones inside are particularly disquieting, because it was all due to the terror attack last year at Tree of Life.

Right wing domestic terrorist was responsible then, and Trump’s stochastic terrorism means that we have to spend even more on safety/security during our Holy Days.

At the same time, Trump’s now threatening a goddamned civil war because he’s subject to impeachment? This fucker thinks only of himself at all times, and doesn’t care about the consequences. He’d tear the nation apart and have his know-nothing supporters engage in violence so long as Trump thinks he’s threatened. This isn’t only not normal, it’s still more impeachable conduct.

Trump does not belong in office. That was true from before the election, but every passing day finds more to disquality and remove him from office. Impeachment is one route. Another is the 25A, but don’t expect Trump’s cabinet to do anything.

They’re just as corrupt and compromised as Trump himself.

How do we know this? Because they are lying and engaging in felony conduct to defend and protect Trump. Pompeo lied about what he knew and when. He was on the Ukraine call. That makes him party to the felony misconduct.

Rudy is subpeonaed to hand over documents, emails, and other comms relating to his conduct - and he admitted on live tv that he had that information. He better be lawyered up (and hope his lawyer is better than Trump has) because that lawyer will need to remind Rudy of his 5A right against self-incrimination.

Oh, and now learn that Trump tried to pressure Australia to dig up dirt on Trump’s political enemies too. We are seeing that Trump’s entire foreign policy was not only reactionary but entirely focused on actions that benefit Trump personally, and was willing to throw our allies under the bus to maximize the pressure. This too is an impeachable offense.

That’s one of the reasons that polls are showing support for impeachment of Trump growing significantly. The events of the past week are finally turning the nation against Trump in a way that prior conduct failed to do.

The thing of it is, that Mueller’s report showed rampant obstruction and misconduct. The Ukraine mess relates directly back to Mueller and seeking foreign powers to assist Trump personally in going after his political enemies/rivals.

Trump hasn’t changed. He’s been doing this all along.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:51:00pm

re: #112 Patricia Kayden

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He not only needs to be impeached but sent to prison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:51:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:51:56pm

re: #114 Joe Bacon 🌹

Pompousass evades answering about the new allegations from the WSJ:

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Bullshit Pompeo. This wasn’t about anti corruption. It was about your boss trying to knee cap someone he saw as a threat.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:52:28pm

OK so Trump asked Ukraine and Australia for help discrediting the Mueller Report.

Let’s start a pool to guess which country is next!

My guess—RUSSIA!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:52:46pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But that’s just cuz Trump in his infinite wisdom outsmarted them.//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:53:54pm

moron is just flailing…

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mmmirele  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:54:17pm

re: #103 Belafon

It was Australia Trump’s first coffee fetcher bragged to that got the Mueller report started.

Maybe State should have allowed Scott Morrison to bring Brian Houston, his personal spiritual advisor and a thoroughly awful person to the USA. Brian covered up his father Frank’s sexual abuse of a child. It came out during the Royal Commission hearings.

theguardian.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:54:51pm

Is there anything he’s not a malignant tumor of corruption in? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

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EPR-radar  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:55:28pm

re: #119 Joe Bacon 🌹

OK so Trump asked Ukraine and Australia for help discrediting the Mueller Report.

Let’s start a pool to guess which country is next!

My guess—RUSSIA!

Russia is probably the only country that doesn’t have a damning instance of Trump shitting the bed on that famous server. Putin is too smart to say anything incriminating on that kind of phone call, and was also probably able to keep Trump from fucking up.

Trump’s treason with Putin was plotted in those in-person meetings with nobody else attending.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:56:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:57:53pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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McCarthy isn’t Boehner or even Paul Ryan. There’s a reason he was bypassed when Boehner stepped down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:58:26pm

something for the watch fans here:

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Jay C  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:59:09pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s good that she raises the question, but I’m guessing that Rep. Ocasio-Cortez already knows the answer….

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Chrysicat  Sep 30, 2019 • 1:59:47pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:01:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:06:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:07:40pm

re: #1 Belafon

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:08:17pm
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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:08:43pm

re: #65 Belafon

“She’s just a woman!” - Trump’s last words

that’s what bobby riggs said

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:08:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:10:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:11:52pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mayor McCheese will be the acting acting Secretary of Hamburders.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:13:12pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

Collins, Trump’s first House supporter, is going down in flames for corruption.

Everyone in Trumpworld is compromised and complicit. This is just more of the same.

To paraphrase Graham - if Trump wins, the GOP is fucked.

Yes, yes they are. And the GOP deserves to be destroyed. That the GOP continues defending Trump shows that they put party over nation as always, and even if some start to defect, it’ll be to protect the party and their power (and their own seats in Congress).

At this point the 2018 blue wave might be a ripple compared to what happens in 2020 (I hope). The GOP needs to be swept from office at all levels, and retaking the Senate needs to be paramount to make sure that we start the process of restoring good government.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:15:00pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

JFC. He really believes foreign leaders are supposed to help him in avoiding accountability.

he’s is factually too ignorant to know the rules and the law - so he doesnt care.
they elected a rank amateur

he is surrounded by some people who do know the rules - ie barr, pompeo.
they have no excuse

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:16:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:16:22pm

re: #139 DangerMan

he’s is factually to ignorant to know the rules and the law - so he doesnt care
they elected a rank amateur

he is surrounded by some people who do know the rules - ie barr, pompeo
they have no excuse

Absolutely and it’s why they need to join him on the dock.

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Jay C  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:16:40pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

Anyone know what the NY practice is regarding vacant House seats? Special election?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:17:13pm

re: #140 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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That guy is such a creepy little fuck. One of the best arguments for overturning citizens united.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:19:03pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

(too late)

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:19:05pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

That guy is such a creepy little fuck. One of the best arguments for overturning citizens united.

Better argument for 90% tax rates.

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EPR-radar  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:21:00pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

That guy is such a creepy little fuck. One of the best arguments for overturning citizens united.

Yes. I’m sure Peter Thiel is one of the many psychopaths looking at what the GOP has become under Trump and considering how best to use it to seize power in a fascist dictatorship.

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Chrysicat  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:21:32pm

re: #145 MsJ

Better argument for 90% tax rates.

At this point, that would just keep anyone from ever reaching his level again.

He’s the argument for a wealth tax and maybe not just one that hits 5 cents on every 100 bucks.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:21:50pm

re: #142 Jay C

Anyone know what the NY practice is regarding vacant House seats? Special election?

Each state sets their own rules. Never mind. I didn’t answer what you asked.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:22:00pm

WOW this is getting wild.

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EPR-radar  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:23:27pm

The funny thing about Peter Thiel is that he’s such an arch-libertarian that certain embarrassing things about his personal life become obvious from his acts.

E.g., his funding of dodgy research into a dubious herpes vaccine/cure.

There’s only one reason an arch-libertarian would give a shit about herpes.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:23:57pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

WOW this is getting wild.

I will have to admit that I did not see this being the stuff that would come out when impeachment was announced.

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EPR-radar  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:24:34pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

Holy shit. It looks like Trumpco really has declared war on the entire US intelligence community.

Let’s see how well that works out for them.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:24:37pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

Barr is hoping foreign countries will back up Trump’s insane conspiracy theory generated in the right wing fever swamps. He’s hoping to find evidence of “deep state” bulkshit, and is going to foreign countries to get info that would discredit what our own intel services found, what the US Senate found, and all to keep Trump in power.

Yeah, Barr’s a fucknut who is up to his eyeballs in criminal misconduct here too.

And it’s just Monday. Imagine where we’ll be by Friday.

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makeitstop  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:24:39pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

WOW this is getting wild.

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Jesus, they were literally pulling out all the stops.

Schiff should just invite all these foreign diplomats that they ‘talked to’ to come and tell us all what they were asked/ordered to do. And whether they did it.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:26:01pm

re: #153 lawhawk

It’s always Friday now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:26:35pm

re: #145 MsJ

Better argument for 90% tax rates.

I hear ya but it’ll be a bitch to get 50.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:27:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:29:36pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

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It’s horrifying.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:29:59pm

re: #151 Belafon

I will have to admit that I did not see this being the stuff that would come out when impeachment was announced.

of course, they always knew what we didnt know which is why they were always so terrified of ‘leaks’ and leakers

im surprised they managed to contain it all this long

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:30:17pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

WOW this is getting wild.

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That fucker needs to be thrown in prison, too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:30:53pm

re: #151 Belafon

I will have to admit that I did not see this being the stuff that would come out when impeachment was announced.

And we’re not even a week into this.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:31:12pm

re: #160 MsJ

That fucker needs to be thrown in prison, too.

Absolutely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:31:45pm

JFC

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:32:18pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:33:14pm

re: #164 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:36:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:37:12pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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He used your own words.

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:38:13pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

Sing it!

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:38:34pm

re: #142 Jay C

Anyone know what the NY practice is regarding vacant House seats? Special election?

Cuomo will call a special, and I’ll bet that because it has the potential to be a flip (this was a razor-thin win for Collins in 2018 that went to a recount before he finally pulled it out), he’ll call the special quickly. That’s a difference from NY-25 to the east (my district), in which he waited forever to call the special after Louise Slaughter (D) died, and so we had the special on the same day as the general election to fill the seat last year.

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Jay C  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:39:55pm

re: #148 Belafon

Each state sets their own rules. Never mind. I didn’t answer what you asked.

So I googled the subject, and other than the requirement by NYS that a Congressional vacancy be filled “by special election” - except in some non-relevant circumstances - it seems like Collins’ seat is going to be vacant for some months (I gather that a nominating primary and a special election will need to be scheduled). Tough for his district, but there we are….

Funny, googling “congressional vacancy new york” pulled up a number of job opportunities (presumably related to the “vacancy term(?)) including a staffer position with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Too bad I don’t live in The Bronx….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:40:34pm
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Jay C  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:42:30pm

re: #169 i(m)p(each)sos

Thanks: slow fingers…..

ADD: Odd, though, that they didn’t call a special after Rep. Slaughter died in March of 2018: the law I googled had a cut-off date of July 1 of a general-election year.
It’s Albany, so who knows…?

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:44:33pm

So, I think we’re already on our third Friday.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:45:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:46:23pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

Short version: The President of the United States is asking Foreign Officials to discredit the United States.

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Chrysicat  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:46:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:46:44pm

re: #174 lawhawk

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Barr needs to be investigated too. Is he just a naked GOP partisan or is he being paid?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:47:16pm

Ukranium1!!!!!!!1!!!!111!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:47:35pm

Being as it’s a slow news day, I guess The Hill ran out of story ideas…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:49:32pm

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

Being as it’s a slow news day, I guess The Hill ran out of story ideas…

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I guess the President threatening a whistleblower wasn’t enough.

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plansbandc  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:49:44pm

I feel I need to say this but it’s hard for me to swear because I almost never swear, but…

FUCK TRUMP

There. I feel better now.

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Chrysicat  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:49:48pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:52:00pm

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Barr needs to be investigated too. Is he just a naked GOP partisan or is he being paid?

Both is a valid option.

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steve_davis  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:52:15pm

re: #28 calochortus

On the other hand “you” used to be plural, hence “Bob, are you going with us?” Instead of “Bob, is you going with us?” You’d never say “Bob are going with us.” It’s the “you” that make singular plural, as it were.

And yeah, I have an inner grammar Nazi too.

the reason we say “you are” is because we lost “thou art” as the second person singular informal back in the 1700’s. So now we use “you are” to signify both singular and plural “you” status, and we no longer have an informal and formal form of the second person.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:52:16pm

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

Being as it’s a slow news day, I guess The Hill ran out of story ideas…

re: #182 Chrysicat

This story is going to disappear so fast.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:52:45pm

YIKES

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:53:51pm

re: #182 Chrysicat

And yet…. Trump was accused by more than 20 women of sexual assault or misconduct/harassment, and Trump’s Access Hollywood video corroborates those women when he claimed he could grab women by the genitals and get away with it.

That he is still in office after that (that he was ELECTED after that video) shows the double standards are in play.

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stpaulbear  Sep 30, 2019 • 2:55:20pm

re: #46 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have long used they/them/their to avoid the clumsy-sounding “he or she/him or her/his or her” construction, but that is for stylistic purposes, grammar be damned. Gender awareness plays little role in such considerations.

GLBT people have been using this forever. It’s useful when you don’t trust telling someone about your same-sex relationship.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:00:06pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

Leave me the fuck alone when I’m trying to row!

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merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
life goes down the drain.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:03:16pm

re: #46 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have long used they/them/their to avoid the clumsy-sounding “he or she/him or her/his or her” construction, but that is for stylistic purposes, grammar be damned. Gender awareness plays little role in such considerations.

People have always used they/them for singular indeterminate or unclassifiable. So the new thing here isn’t the singular they, it’s a growing awareness that some individuals actually prefer, in person, to remain gender indeterminate and that it’s just polite for us to treat them the way we’d want to be treated in their shoes.

People have got to know their goddamned limitations and one of mine is that I wasn’t brought upon this Earth to understand other people’s fucking personal preferences.

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makeitstop  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:08:17pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

YIKES

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I’ve seen that walk on people who took way too much of one substance or another.

They’ve got that bitch tranq’d to the gills.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:15:56pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I’m finding it difficult to get used to using “them” and “their” instead of gendered pronouns when a person isn’t identified.

My inner grammar nazi gets upset about misusing a plural word every time I try.

Fear not, “they” as a singular pronoun has always been correct. It is only the outsized influence of a couple of grammarians in the XVIII claiming “they” cannot be singular because a plural pronoun can’t take a singular antecedent.

They forgot about “you.” By the XVIII Century, “thou” was long gone from English usage.

“They” as a singular pronoun is documented all the way back to 1375.

From the original grammar Nazis, the Oxford English Dictionary:

A brief history of singular ‘they’

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stpaulbear  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:24:03pm

re: #153 lawhawk

Barr is hoping foreign countries will back up Trump’s insane conspiracy theory generated in the right wing fever swamps. He’s hoping to find evidence of “deep state” bulkshit, and is going to foreign countries to get info that would discredit what our own intel services found, what the US Senate found, and all to keep Trump in power.

Yeah, Barr’s a fucknut who is up to his eyeballs in criminal misconduct here too.

And it’s just Monday. Imagine where we’ll be by Friday.

Can you imagine how filled with joy that a lot of these foreign diplomats are now that the facade is starting to crumble and they can just let it all fly? It’s gonna be like yo’ mama jokes where everyone tries to one-up each other.

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danarchy  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:29:01pm

re: #182 Chrysicat

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He just started a new radio show on SiriusXM and his podcast is doing well, so apparently it was time to whack him again.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 30, 2019 • 9:13:03pm

re: #57 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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I have lost my way


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