And Now, Your Monday Trump Impeachment Dump

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The dam has well and truly burst today, with a damning deluge of reports on Trump’s attempts to leverage American power to help himself steal another election, and cover up Russia’s involvement in the last one. And not just Trump; it’s now become clear that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Attorney General William Barr are neck-deep in the criminal conspiracy as well.

First, we should note that as part of his normal weekend routine, Trump not only called for the arrest of Rep. Adam Schiff for “treason,” he threatened civil war if the impeachment continues.

Then today, the real stories started to come out.

Rudy Giuliani was subpoenaed to provide documents to House Democrats.

We learned that Mike Pompeo was on Trump’s now-infamous extortion call to the Ukrainian president.

Then, in a one-two punch, we first learned that William Barr had pressured the prime minister of Australia to help him discredit the Mueller investigation…

… and then that story blew even wider open, as we learned that Barr has been approaching numerous foreign entities to help him discredit US intelligence services and hide Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.

This news day qualifies as head-spinning. Trump’s whole house of cards is collapsing around him.

Oh, and by the way, he’s still going on television and confessing to crimes.

UPDATE at 9/30/19 3:40:40 pm by Charles Johnson

And here’s video of Mike Pompeo lying about the Ukrainian phone call.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:01:29pm
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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:04:28pm

At one point today during a presser in the Oval Office, Trump left the office, when the usual way of doing things is for the journalists to file out.

Everything Trump touches dies. US foreign policy since Trump came into office was to further Trump’s political power and personal fortunes. We have still more evidence of this with all the efforts to try and go after Trump rivals like Biden, but also to discredit the investigations into Trump-Russia connections.

For a guy who claims he has no connections, he’s doing an awful lot of criming to cover up those connections and pressuring countries into working with Trump to get dirt on political opponents or to discredit the US intel services and their conclusions about Trump and his repeated entreaties to get assistance from Russia and other foreign powers to win the 2016 election (and now 2020).

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:05:41pm

So anyway, Trump is subverting our foreign intel alliances and Barr is helping, and is therefore working against US intel conclusions that he represents.

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Citizen K  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:06:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:07:48pm

re: #4 Citizen K

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Then they can ask themselves why Obama didn’t threaten Ukraine for dirt on Romney. Too many willful dumbasses here.

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Citizen K  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:08:16pm

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Then they can ask themselves why Obama didn’t threaten Ukraine for dirt on Romney. Too many willful dumbasses here.

I take solace that it’s ‘almost half’ rather than ‘more than half’, I suppose.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:10:13pm
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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:10:15pm

Remember that Trump has been trying to strong arm Turkey re: Turkey’s purchase of Russian weapons systems, and that whole thing went silent a while back. No doubt we’ll learn that all that plays into the ongoing Barr effort to try and discredit the US intel community take on Trump-Russia (and in the process confirms everything the IC says about how Trump is compromised, complicit, and criminalized the US foreign policy to serve him personally).

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:11:41pm

I just got back from my election lesson and we will be using the books again. For some reason the iPads are not ready for the field. So I will be writing everyone who votes into 2 books again. I was really looking forward to using the iPads.

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makeitstop  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:12:45pm

Trump is goddamn lucky that the members of the intelligence community are as professional and apolitical as they are.

If I was in charge I would have burned him down to the waterline a long time ago.

That said, maybe they’ll swing back soon and deliver the (metaphorical) death blow.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:12:55pm

Damn! Dan’s taking Ken to the woodshed.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:13:07pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:14:13pm

This has been the greatest Infrastructure Week so far.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:16:03pm

re: #13 Ace Rothstein

Today would be an awesome day for Trump to release his tax returns.

Seriously, Trump could release his tax returns and it’d barely register on a day like today.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:16:14pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:17:49pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Vogel is a bleeping troll. Thank goodness his nonsensical story has been overridden by real news.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:20:00pm

re: #16 Patricia Kayden

Vogel is a bleeping troll. Thank goodness his nonsensical story has been overridden by real news.

Aside from pushing Rudy’s horseshit talking points he’s got one other thing in common with Rudy: he’s convinced that he’s a hero.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:22:01pm

From the previous thread, I got left behind (not like the movie):

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I’m finding it difficult to get used to using “them” and “their” instead of gendered pronouns when a person isn’t identified.

My inner grammar nazi gets upset about misusing a plural word every time I try.

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Fear not, “they” as a singular pronoun has always been correct. It is only the outsized influence of a couple of grammarians in the XVIII Century claiming “they” cannot be singular because a plural pronoun can’t take a singular antecedent.

They forgot about “you.” By the XVIII Century, “thou” was long gone from English usage.

“They” as a singular pronoun is documented all the way back to 1375.

From the original grammar Nazis, the Oxford English Dictionary:

A brief history of singular ‘they’

Additionally, even at the time those grammarians in the XVIII Century received pushback from everyday speakers, writers, &c.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:22:35pm

Just a reminder: It’s only Monday.

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stpaulbear  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:26:50pm

Can you imagine how filled with joy that a lot of these foreign diplomats are now that the facade is starting to crumble and they can just let it all fly? It’s gonna be like yo’ mama jokes where everyone tries to one-up each other.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:28:30pm

re: #19 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder: It’s only Monday.

We’re going to have another month of Friday news dumps this week, aren’t we?

Dammit, I need to find time to prepare my plumbing against freezing temperatures this week. Folks need to give me an hour or two break.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:28:32pm

re: #19 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder: It’s only Monday.

As noted earlier, every day is Friday now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:28:36pm
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jaunte  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:29:02pm

I’ve had my head down working all day; check the news and Holy Shit.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:29:28pm

re: #22 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As noted earlier, every day is Friday at 5:00 pm now.

Minor edit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:30:49pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:31:07pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🎃

From the previous thread, I got left behind (not like the movie):

Additionally, even at the time those grammarians in the XVIII received pushback from everyday speakers, writers, &c.

I killed my inner grammar nazi with this stake:

‘Grammar’ is not a set of instructions. ‘Grammar’ is a description of how things are done, linguistically.

This kind of linguistic description contrasts with linguistic prescription…

When things start to be done differently, the grammar changes accordingly.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:31:18pm

re: #4 Citizen K

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I don’t care what the masses think
they are asses

I care what the law is

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piratedan  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:31:31pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

ok… so I’m a bad person , if we impeach Barr, can we have him jailed, disbarred and left with nothing but a book of already completed Sudoku puzzles for comfort?

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retired cynic  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:31:35pm

Charlie Pierce is sounding *another* alarm: Ukraine’s Civil War Is a ‘Playground’ for White Supremacists. What Could Go Wrong?

There’s a lot of stirring in various perilous places right now. The president* and his people think they can toy with them, but they’re toddlers in a powder magazine. This is also not a great time in this country for the president* to be talking about traitors and civil wars, either. Not all of those folks in the Soufan report are Serbs.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:31:41pm

I still say the hammer will be the other whistleblower complaint at the IRS where Trump was trying to fuck around with the automatic audits of his returns while POTUS. I know the obsequiousness of the RethugiKKKans knows no bounds, but if true, there is no way they wouldn’t vote to remove.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:33:21pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:33:28pm
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retired cynic  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:34:29pm

More Charlie Pierce’s great language: “And, in case if you were wondering how far up shit-creek Barr has gone, well, if the Washington Post is accurate, he’s found the headwaters at the very least.”

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Dr. Matt  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:34:44pm

A serious insult to Bob Mould:

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ozharas  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:39:09pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is not playing well here either - nobody likes a kiss-arse here and there’s already discussion about our PM and US Amb being so damn eager to help. No wonder we ended up with a state dinner.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:41:04pm

re: #27 wrenchwench

I killed my inner grammar nazi with this stake:

‘Grammar’ is not a set of instructions. ‘Grammar’ is a description of how things are done, linguistically.

When things start to be done differently, the grammar changes accordingly.

grammar nihilist?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:41:41pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:41:41pm

re: #27 wrenchwench

I killed my inner grammar nazi with this stake:

‘Grammar’ is not a set of instructions. ‘Grammar’ is a description of how things are done, linguistically.

When things start to be done differently, the grammar changes accordingly.

The current conservative outrage at using “they” as a singular pronoun is actually a dogwhistle. It stands the place of “we hate those icky transgender people, but you can’t say that now because of the PC Police.”

So “they” was smuggled in to spin up their non-thinking 27% base voters to be angry at the placeholder so they don’t look like the bigots they are.

You’ll note this outrage really didn’t break into the public until “scary men want to use women’s bathrooms” became a conservative talking point.

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William Lewis  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:43:56pm

re: #37 DangerMan

grammar nihilist?

No, grammar utilitarianism.

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stpaulbear  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:44:23pm

re: #34 retired cynic

More Charlie Pierce’s great language: “And, in case if you were wondering how far up shit-creek Barr has gone, well, if the Washington Post is accurate, he’s found the headwaters at the very least.”

Not seeing Barr anywhere here.

Itasca State Park - Mississippi River Headwaters

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:45:04pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:45:53pm

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teleskiguy  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:46:14pm
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austin_blue  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:46:22pm

re: #36 ozharas

This is not playing well here either - nobody likes a kiss-arse here and there’s already discussion about our PM and US Amb being so damn eager to help. No wonder we ended up with a state dinner.

But everyone loves XXXX Bitter.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:46:42pm

re: #42 Scottish Dragon

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Being in your own home while black. Sigh what an injustice.

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ckkatz  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:47:39pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

They look very… tired.

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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:47:45pm

re: #40 William Lewis

No, grammar utilitarianism.

…use it up until dead. Unitilhinism.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:48:44pm

Rybolovlev is a bagman.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:49:20pm

re: #42 Scottish Dragon

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it wasn’t her fucking castle

thinking it was (or making it up to get off) DONT MAKE IT SO

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:50:26pm

This is 2016 all over again. Trump is such a craven son of a bitch and a third of the country loves it. Even if you impeach him, how the hell do you fix that madness?

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:50:55pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

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well if they’re ever attacked by wheels

(hey libtard they’re tires)

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:51:20pm
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Jay C  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:51:31pm

re: #50 DangerMan

it wasn’t her fucking castle

thinking it was (or making it up to get off) DONT MAKE IT SO

Yeah, but “white police officer”, so “benefit of the doubt” (??)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:51:53pm

From the previous thread:
re: #55 Belafon

The one grammar thing I haven’t figured out is how to describe someone who has switched genders when the part of the story is about them transitioning. I was trying to tell my mom about one of my son’s friends, who she had met before the transition, and my mom has enough trouble anyway with using the pronoun the person wants to use now.

“They” is acceptable unless a person tells you or you ask (pesky plural pronoun “you” used as singular here) a preference.

I don’t know the specifics of this person and it’s not my business. Say this person now presents as Becky, when before it was Bill.

Ask her if it sounds okay to reference Becky as “he.”

Additionally, you can see the conservative dogwhistle outrage over Chelsea Manning. While what she did in the Army was reprehensible, she is still a she. The only people who address her as “he” or by her previous name are trying to be assholes.

My wife changed her name after her mother died, because of family reasons I’m not going to get into here. Even changing your name legally is a ton of work.

No one where we live now has ever known her by anything but her current name. Old friends from before her name change quickly switched to her new name because she asked them to. Anyone who wouldn’t do that is not a friend, they’re an asshole.

Asshole who intentionally misgenders people: Hi, my name is Bill.
Me: You don’t look like a Bill. I think you’re a Becky. I’m going to call you Becky because it makes me feel better.

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Jay C  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:52:51pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

This is 2016 all over again. Trump is such a craven son of a bitch and a third of the country loves it. Even if you impeach him, how the hell do you fix that madness?

Try to get the other two-thirds reasonably “woke”….?

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teleskiguy  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:52:54pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:53:12pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

This is 2016 all over again. Trump is such a craven son of a bitch and a third of the country loves it. Even if you impeach him, how the hell do you fix that madness?

One individual at a time, if necessary. We’re in it for the long haul.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:53:13pm

re: #56 Jay C

Try to get the other two-thirds reasonably “woke”….?

True.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:53:37pm

re: #58 wrenchwench

One individual at a time, if necessary. We’re in it for the long haul.

We are. I’m actually optimistic about defeating him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:53:52pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

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Incredibly so.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:55:05pm

re: #50 DangerMan

it wasn’t her fucking castle

thinking it was (or making it up to get off) DONT MAKE IT SO

Her fucking castle is whiteness.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:55:30pm

re: #62 Scottish Dragon

Her fucking castle is whiteness.

White copness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:55:53pm
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austin_blue  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:58:36pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The DDofO would have burned him to the ground.

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DangerMan  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:59:04pm

drip drip drip

just let nature take her course

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:59:34pm

re: #42 Scottish Dragon

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HappyWarrior  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:59:38pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s a damn good question

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 30, 2019 • 3:59:49pm

OK, I had a sudden thought.
Maybe Barr isn’t actually trying to pressure/strong arm allies into discrediting the Mueller and subsequent investigations.
Maybe he’s just using the request for introductions to convince Dotard he’s actually on the case. Much like Trump’s “investigators” who got free vacations to Hawaii looking for “birth records”

Just a thought

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:01:49pm

re: #44 teleskiguy

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Those dudes are really into tires.

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teleskiguy  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:02:24pm
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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:03:54pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

This is 2016 all over again. Trump is such a craven son of a bitch and a third of the country loves it. Even if you impeach him, how the hell do you fix that madness?

Keep voting and keep them out of power.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:04:45pm

Another example of changing word usage can be found right here at Little Green Footballs.

The word “downstairs” is used by everyone here to refer to comments in the previous thread. If you go back over my worthless commentary over my years here, I have never used the word “downstairs.”

If someone felt insulted by my usage of “from the previous thread” rather than “downstairs” (because my brain locks up thinking of a blog thread identifying as a staircase), particularly if that person is Mr. Johnson, I’ll change my usage. I may do so anyway eventually, simply because “downstairs” has fewer letters for my not-so-well working fingers to type.

The same goes for “Lizard,” a member of the community here. I really have trouble thinking of people as reptiles (I’m not David Icke).

As for two spaces after a full stop versus one, I have no trouble switching between the two, since I use a typewriter all the time (my Royal typewriter is right next to my computer).

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austin_blue  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:05:17pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I had a sudden thought.
Maybe Barr isn’t actually trying to pressure/strong arm allies into discrediting the Mueller and subsequent investigations.
Maybe he’s just using the request for introductions to convince Dotard he’s actually on the case. Much like Trump’s “investigators” who got free vacations to Hawaii looking for “birth records”

Just a thought

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I think Barr is a sniveling toady who sold his soul over Iraq and would do whatever the president* asked him to do.

I don’t think there’s an ounce of honor in his body.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:05:57pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:06:40pm

It’s never not time for camels with hats.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:06:49pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I had a sudden thought.
Maybe Barr isn’t actually trying to pressure/strong arm allies into discrediting the Mueller and subsequent investigations.
Maybe he’s just using the request for introductions to convince Dotard he’s actually on the case. Much like Trump’s “investigators” who got free vacations to Hawaii looking for “birth records”

Just a thought

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This theory is belied by the report yesterday citing “someone familiar with Barr’s thinking” that Barr was surprised and angry that Trump had told Zelensky to contact him about Biden and the 2016 election. What Barr is doing now is explicitly intertwined with that same effort. Also, if he is just humoring Trump and stringing him along (he isn’t) that’s almost as bad from the perspective of government fraud and waste.

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austin_blue  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:07:35pm

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Another example of changing word usage can be found right here at Little Green Footballs.

The word “downstairs” is used by everyone here to refer to comments in the previous thread. If you go back over my worthless commentary over my years here, I have never used the word “downstairs.”

If someone felt insulted by my usage of “from the previous thread” rather than “downstairs” (because my brain locks up thinking of a blog thread identifying as a staircase), particularly if that person is Mr. Johnson, I’ll change my usage. I may do so anyway eventually, simply because “downstairs” has fewer letters for my not-so-well working fingers to type.

The same goes for “Lizard,” a member of the community here. I really have trouble thinking of people as reptiles (I’m not David Icke).

As for two spaces after a full stop versus one, I have no trouble switching between the two, since I use a typewriter all the time (my Royal typewriter is right next to my computer).

I have no problem with thinking of Lizards as reptiles. I am often one myself.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:07:52pm

Ah another Trumpette did something naughty!

Stacey Dash was arrested for domestic battery after an incident Sunday night in New Port Richey, FL, according to the Pasco County Sheriff’s Office.

The “Clueless” actress was taken into custody after an argument with a male, whose name was redacted in an incident report obtained by CNN. She is accused of pushing and slapping him.

The report states that police were called to a home Sunday evening “to respond to a domestic dispute” between the two.

“The victim sustained red scratch marks to his upper left arm from being pushed,” the report states.

Dash was taken into custody and transported to the Land O’ Lakes detention facility without incident. She posted bail and was released on Monday morning, according to a spokesperson for the Pasco County Sheriff.

cnn.com

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:10:11pm

Is it over yet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:10:30pm

re: #78 austin_blue

I have no problem with thinking of Lizards as reptiles. I am often one myself.

and there is a very good reason why we refer to ourselves as Lizards.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:10:43pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:10:52pm

re: #80 b.d.

Is it over yet?

THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:11:24pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

It’s never not time for camels with hats.

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Camels With Hats is a great band name.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:12:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:13:41pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

It’s never not time for camels with hats.

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crabs with hats:

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:14:59pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:15:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:16:09pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:18:17pm
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austin_blue  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:31:31pm

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

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Shocked! Shocked, I say!

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Skip Intro  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:33:55pm

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

I guess I’m going to die before they use the word “lie” about Trump.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:34:03pm

re: #91 austin_blue

Shocked! Shocked, I say!

yeah, I wondered why this was going around on twitter today from bot-like accounts.

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:35:34pm

Will Rudy blow his other foot off or shoot the White House gang?

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Skip Intro  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:36:14pm

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:37:02pm

re: #95 Skip Intro

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damn

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:37:12pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:39:06pm
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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:40:23pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:41:39pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

A beautiful voice has been silenced. RIP Ms Norman.

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:42:32pm

It’s not long before some cabinet members start saying how they were only involved in the crimes because they were trying to talk Trump out of them, or how they were secretly gathering evidence to turn over the FBI at a later date

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:44:08pm
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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:44:36pm

re: #101 b.d.

It’s not long before some cabinet members start saying how they were only involved in the crimes because they were trying to talk Trump out of them, or how they were secretly gathering evidence to turn over the FBI at a later date

If someone turns on trump he’ll take them down with him, no matter of it’s true or not.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:46:14pm

From the previous thread:

re: #115 lawhawk

Happy New Year, Lawhawk (and others who celebrate this day here).

I get to use this GIF

Well, it’s not exactly related to Judaism, but it’s the best I have. /s

I am so sorry you had to have police protection during Shul. The fat orange tyrant has brought out the horrible from under their rocks again. I do hope beside the police that things went well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:49:35pm
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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:51:41pm

Sargent has a good write up.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:53:36pm

re: #106 b.d. (Impeach!)

Sargent has a good write up.

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Giuliani and other members of Trumpworld need to keep in mind whether or not they want to go to prison for Trump when a new administration rolls into town.

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:55:50pm

re: #107 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Giuliani and other members of Trumpworld need to keep in mind whether or not they want to go to prison for Trump when a new administration rolls into town.

We need to make sure and nominate someone who isn’t ready to make nice.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:56:01pm

I know a lot of Lizards think a certain former Senator got railroaded, but there is a new accusation against him for sexual harassment. I’ll just leave this here and won’t comment further.

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retired cynic  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:57:38pm

re: #109 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Anonymous

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 4:58:44pm

re: #108 b.d. (Impeach them all)

We need to make sure and nominate someone who isn’t ready to make nice.

They’re all banking on pardons. All we can hope for is a Congressional Truth & Reconciliation Commission that is willing to use civil & inherent contempt to to compel testimony, on the basis that an acceptance of a pardon removes all legal jeopardy and obviates the ability to plead the Fifth.

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:00:49pm

lol, ok then, I guess we can all go home now…

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:01:06pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:02:07pm
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sagehen  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:03:44pm

re: #10 makeitstop

Trump is goddamn lucky that the members of the intelligence community are as professional and apolitical as they are.

If I was in charge I would have burned him down to the waterline a long time ago.

Revenge is a dish best served cold.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:05:11pm

re: #112 b.d. (Impeach them all)

“Fake Poll”
It is Breitbart. What else can one expect? Of course they are going to support DT.

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:05:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:06:55pm

O_o

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:07:44pm

re: #112 b.d. (Impeach them all)

Is that from the Borowitz Report?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:10:16pm

He’s counting Russian trolls and bots.

(Pulpit pimp) Lance Wallnau: Impeaching Trump Would ‘Overturn the Will of 600 Million Americans’

Trump-loving right-wing activist Lance Wallnau streamed a video on his Facebook page last Friday in which he declared that Rep. Adam Schiff “is a flippin’ nutjob” and fumed that in seeking to impeach President Trump, the Democrats are trying to “overturn the will of 600 million Americans,” which is quite a feat considering that the current population of the United States is roughly 330 million.

Wallnau was furious about Schiff’s performance during last week’s House Intelligence Committee hearing in which Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire was grilled about the whistleblower complaint regarding Trump’s effort to press the government of Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter.

“Have you guys heard what this reprehensible character—I mean, the guy looks like he needs deliverance,” Wallnau said. “We can be compassionate and say, ‘Nero’s flippin’ crazy’ while he’s killing Christians. This guy is a flippin’ nutjob.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:10:32pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

They’re all banking on pardons. All we can hope for is a Congressional Truth & Reconciliation Commission that is willing to use civil & inherent contempt to to compel testimony, on the basis that an acceptance of a pardon removes all legal jeopardy and obviates the ability to plead the Fifth.

With Trump, loyalty is a one way street, so I hope after he loses the election he will view them as a bunch of losers and refuse to grant them pardons.

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:11:37pm

re: #119 Ace Rothstein

Is that from the Borowitz Report?

i’m afraid not, it is from the leader of the free world

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mmmirele  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:12:30pm

More about Australia:

and the letter

So I wonder who else is involved in this craziness?

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:16:44pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

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mmmirele  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:17:00pm

I know some people don’t like Molly Crabapple, but don’t shoot the messenger this time around. She’s pointing out that Syria is spreading money around to change opinion, in this case to a YT comedian. Bellingcat has the story and docs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:19:26pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:20:07pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:21:59pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:24:45pm

re: #128 gocart mozart

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Still extremely unlikely, but we’ll see.

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jaunte  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:30:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:31:12pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:32:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:32:22pm
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garzooma  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:32:50pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I had a sudden thought.
Maybe Barr isn’t actually trying to pressure/strong arm allies into discrediting the Mueller and subsequent investigations.
Maybe he’s just using the request for introductions to convince Dotard he’s actually on the case. Much like Trump’s “investigators” who got free vacations to Hawaii looking for “birth records”

Just a thought

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I think *something* is going on with Barr. The normal way authoritarian regimes operate is to have their *own* law enforcement go after political opponents, and Barr is the head of that in the US (at the Federal level, anyway). So why root around in places like Ukraine?

In fact, if you think that Biden’s getting a Ukraine prosecutor fired was prima facie abuse of power, the fact that the FBI is not investigating is fairly embarrassing.

One possibility is that Barr got pushback when he tried to get the FBI to help out. If so, it will be interesting to see what subordinates have to say in hearings.

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gocart mozart  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:34:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:34:46pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:34:46pm

It has been barely a month since a road maniac shot 30 people in Odessa, killing 7. This is a new one. He was going around shooting at people whose cars had broken down beside the road. Juan Rosales, 36, was killed. Another man, 52 year old Jesus Alvarado, was injured. Two other people escaped injury though their cars were damaged.
Alleged Odessa serial shooter writes of renouncing evil to Jesus on Facebook hours before a man was killed

ECTOR COUNTY, Texas (KOSA) - The man linked to last week’s serial shootings in Odessa has been identified as Troy Lee Wilson, according to documents obtained by CBS7.

*****
Wilson’s Facebook page is filled with posts about Jesus, prayer and renouncing evil.
Even on the day investigators say Wilson shot and killed 36-year-old Juan Rosalez, he posted, “Good morning to all hope you have a super blessed day and pray for all you can …… and go into prayer and renounce anything you can to Jesus Christ of evil in your life and or go into prayer ask him to speak in holly (sic) spirit in voice and tell what to renounce …… just say what it is in prayer and renounce in Jesus name amen ……..”

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makeitstop  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:36:04pm
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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:36:19pm

these guys aren’t very bright

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Kilroy was here  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:38:54pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:40:21pm
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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:41:18pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:44:16pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Good. Take along the Nazi-whisperer-yeller-goatie humbug.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:45:11pm

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

They believe they are doing ‘God’s’ work

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Citizen K  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:47:21pm

re: #138 makeitstop

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Australia seems to be enthusiastically embracing the anglosphere’s right-wing swoon.

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lawhawk  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:48:44pm

Everything that’s come out to date should end Trumpworld. The GOP supports. What will it take for them to stop supporting Trump and end Trumpworld?

It’ll be when the polling craters for the GOP. When their internal polling craters, it’ll finally end Trumpworld.

That’s what it’ll take. Not an endlass parade of lifeless packaging of Trump scandals. Not more whistleblowers.

Polling. That’s the only thing getting the GOP to act. It wont even be party over nation - it’ll be to protect their remaining power before Trump absolutely eviscerates their 2020 chances and beyond.

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b.d. (It's all true)  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:53:59pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:55:46pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:56:01pm

Today is just tew much.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:56:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 5:59:59pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:00:14pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:00:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:02:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:04:55pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:05:29pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

Those dudes are really into tires.

Well, if world war III starts because of an invasion of aggressive tires from outer space, their training will have paid off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:12:35pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:14:08pm

re: #149 goddamnedfrank

Today is just tew much.

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Leave me out of this, man.

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:15:50pm

Thread.

Trump and his minions getting false testimony. One from the Ukraine guy ego was fired.

This is going to get ugly.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:18:23pm

re: #159 MsJ

Thread.

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Trump and his minions getting false testimony. One from the Ukraine guy ego was fired.

This is going to get ugly.

what the fuck does gorka add to the party?

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gocart mozart  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:18:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:18:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:21:08pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:21:48pm

They’re off.

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MsJ  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:22:28pm

re: #160 I Would Prefer Not To

what the fuck does gorka add to the party?

More illegality.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:23:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:23:59pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:26:16pm
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makeitstop  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:27:53pm

Interesting question - what type of retribution does Putin have coming his way when this is done? (Pardon the originating tweet from Louise Mensch.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:29:09pm

re: #24 jaunte

I’ve had my head down working all day; check the news and Holy Shit.

I prefer “Wholly Shit.” It’s the whole shit we’re seeing here. /s

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:32:22pm

Horror Movie Daycare

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:34:25pm

re: #156 EPR-radar

Well, if world war III starts because of an invasion of aggressive tires from outer space, their training will have paid off.

Rubber - Trailer

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:34:38pm

bust busy busy…

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jaunte  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:35:26pm

All those paranoid-sounding theories about Trump having been turned into an asset by the Russians years and years ago don’t seem so crazy now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:37:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:38:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:42:16pm

jeebus

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:42:48pm
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jaunte  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:43:00pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

Grotesque.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:43:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:44:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:45:57pm

niterz, lizardz

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:46:57pm
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makeitstop  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:48:55pm

Nope. Nope. And nope.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:51:20pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!

Masochists everywhere cheer.

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Cheechako  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:56:59pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is Gorka being very public and being a show-off about this trip? I wonder what’s being hidden by others.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:58:43pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 30, 2019 • 6:59:45pm

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Masochists everywhere cheer.

When I was scrolling earlier, my tired eyes misread that as “The BEATLES will continue until morale improves.”

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makeitstop  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:00:28pm

re: #186 Cheechako

Why is Gorka being very public and being a show-off about this trip? I wonder what’s being hidden by others.

Yeah, good point.

Has Barr been accounted for? Jared? Uday (or is it Qusay?)?

Who’s doing what while Gorka draws fire?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:01:22pm

re: #186 Cheechako

Why is Gorka being very public and being a show-off about this trip? I wonder what’s being hidden by others.

Gorka thinks this trip is going to prove that trump is innocent and he, not rudy, gets to be the gyro.

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makeitstop  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:03:37pm
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Cheechako  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:05:08pm

FYI - The newest Doc Martin series is now available on Acorn TV. New episode every Thursday.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:07:54pm

re: #172 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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That movie is worth seeing once, especially for the people just watching the tire.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:10:55pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

Maybe Gorka has decided to take his chances in Hungary?

I’ve been predicting sooner or later one or more Republicans would try to flee the country. Gorka has an easy out.

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Belafon  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:11:23pm

re: #184 makeitstop

Only federal immunity related to actions taken before he took office.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:12:57pm

re: #194 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Maybe this IS his out.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:14:30pm

re: #196 GlutenFreeJesus

Maybe this IS his out.

If it was his out he wouldn’t be so public about it. He thinks he’s going to be the hero.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:17:42pm

re: #125 mmmirele

I know some people don’t like Molly Crabapple, but don’t shoot the messenger this time around. She’s pointing out that Syria is spreading money around to change opinion, in this case to a YT comedian. Bellingcat has the story and docs.

Jimmy Dore used to work for The Young Turks, then went libertarian nutbar and left them. Since then he hasn’t been so much comedian as he has been “oligarchy talking head.”

He gets some real chowderheads on his show now, and defends folks like Steven Crowder as a “free speech activist” because YouTube demonitised Crowder’s channel for hateful rhetoric.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:22:39pm
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makeitstop  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:24:21pm
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jaunte  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:26:38pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 30, 2019 • 7:40:25pm

Giphy

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 30, 2019 • 9:22:52pm

re: #156 EPR-radar

Well, if world war III starts because of an invasion of aggressive tires from outer space, their training will have paid off.

What if they WERE beneficent tires and only became aggressive when they saw their brethren’s abuse?


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