Seth Meyers: Trump Is Having an Impeachment Meltdown
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Seth takes a closer look at Trump wanting to dig a trench around the southern border and fill it with alligators and snakes.
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Well, itâs the first weekend of the Austin City Limits Festival and the projected high temps are 98 tomorrow, and 99/99 on Saturday and Sunday. With the first real âcoolâ front coming in Monday a.m., compression wave could push temps above 100 on Sunday.
September in Austin was hotter than July. Global Wierding.
The Fest is held at Zilker Park, about 3/4 of a mile west of the house, and 70,000 of our closest friends will be wandering through my âhood to get there.
Today I saw the stupidest dockless scooter vision evah!
A tragically hip hipster (Major man bun, tight jeans, t-shirt, sunglasses) was driving down Barton Springs Road. His sig-other was standing in front of him and, (this is the best part) sheâs holding a full-grown English bulldog in her arms. Heâs looking in control, sheâs smiling rather frantically, and the dog (undoubtedly named either âWinstonâ, or âChurchillâ, or âToughieâ) looked like he would like to be anywhere else on Planet Earth, or least on skateboard.
Iâm for the rack. Night all, sweet dreams.
Today, btw, was just bizarre. Drumpf is a meat bag excreting flop sweat. His staff is a fire ant mound that has just been kicked over. His administration is a plane crash. Itâs horrifying and disgusting, but you canât look away.
Has the moniker âthe Giuliani Dossierâ been coined yet?
â Jerry Dunleavy (@JerryDunleavy) October 3, 2019
that Dossier sure is Dodgy. Weâre all assuming itâs Ghouliani, but are we sure?
Anyone else notice how Donald Trump hasnât said jack shit about Bernieâs heart problem?
Trump is a coward, he attacks that which he fears and he zeroes in on any perceived weakness. If he was actually afraid of running against Sanders heâd have said something by now.â Jason McGlothlenstein (@goddamnedfrank) October 3, 2019
Yep, Trumpâs melting down, and that press conference yesterday was certainly good evidence of it. The Finnish President, Sauli Niinisto, left no doubt about it - his facial expression was like a movie or TV scene that freeze-frames with a record scratch and a voiceover saying, âYouâre probably wondering how I got hereâŠ.â
re: #7 Dr Lizardo
Yep, Trumpâs melting down, and that press conference yesterday was certainly good evidence of it. The Finnish President, Sauli Niinisto, left no doubt about it - his facial expression was like a movie or TV scene that freeze-frames with a record scratch and a voiceover saying, âYouâre probably wondering how I got hereâŠ.â
Yes, I keep hoping someone apologized to him or something.
re: #8 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!
Yes, I keep hoping someone apologized to him or something.
Same here. The look on his face said it all.
âFFS, this guyâs nuts. Someone please get me outta hereâ.
âTis the beginning of the month and the Washington Post has sent me a new 30-day free digital subscription code. First one inâŠ
From the last thread:
re: #166 gocart mozart
ROTFLMAO, this is on the 495 Beltway around Washington pic.twitter.com/roSnoR9MAE
â Stone đ„¶ (@stonecold2050) October 3, 2019
The backstory is that back in the early 1970âs when the Mormon Temple was being built, a lot of people had no idea what it was. So somebody tagged the bridge with âSurrender Dorothyâ . Which was a Wizard of Oz reference to the very exotic building going up. Seemed good humored guess at the time.
Looks like it has been updated to fit into these crazy times.
The loonies are really coming out of the woodwork now and sadly, I expect weâll see more of this as the impeachment process moves forward.
A man in Arizona was recently arrested and charged with vandalizing a Catholic chapel. Police believe heâs a member of the pro-President Donald Trump conspiracy theory/support group known as âQAnonâ.
According to The Arizona Republic, the Chapel of the Holy Cross in Sedona was attacked by a man swinging a crowbar into the altar on September 25th. The attack smashed several sacred chalices. The incident was caught on video and posted online. Afterwards, the same man allegedly sprayed âevilâ onto the sidewalk in front of the church.
The Sedona Police Department later arrested 41-year-old Timothy Larson and charged him with aggravated criminal damage, disorderly conduct, and a hate crime. Authorities highlighted Larsonâs Twitter account which allegedly identified him as a fervent believer in the far-right QAnon conspiracy theory that so-called âdeep stateâ elements are angling to somehow subvert President Trump and his supporters.
QAnon-aligned conspiracy theorists frequently make false accusations against high-profile members of the political and media establishment and also issue predictions and prognostications which never come to pass â facts which only serves to deepen their followersâ irrational faith in the 21st century mystery cult.
Yup, it is likely that there is going to be a lot more stochastic terrorism set off. And innocent people are going to get hurt.
While I do not have any specific knowledge, I must admit that I am more concerned about more organized groups who have been studying and practicing violence. Groups like the III%âers, the âProud Boysâ and other various Neo-Nazi groups.
At this point from what I have seen publicly, I suspect that urban and suburban local authorities can handle them. And, fortunately, they do not seem to be gaining much traction with the public at large.
re: #3 austin_blue
Well, itâs the first weekend of the Austin City Limits Festival and the projected high temps are 98 tomorrow, and 99/99 on Saturday and Sunday. With the first real âcoolâ front coming in Monday a.m., compression wave could push temps above 100 on Sunday.
September in Austin was hotter than July. Global Wierding.
The Fest is held at Zilker Park, about 3/4 of a mile west of the house, and 70,000 of our closest friends will be wandering through my âhood to get there.
Today I saw the stupidest dockless scooter vision evah!
A tragically hip hipster (Major man bun, tight jeans, t-shirt, sunglasses) was driving down Barton Springs Road. His sig-other was standing in front of him and, (this is the best part) sheâs holding a full-grown English bulldog in her arms. Heâs looking in control, sheâs smiling rather frantically, and the dog (undoubtedly named either âWinstonâ, or âChurchillâ, or âToughieâ) looked like he would like to be anywhere else on Planet Earth, or least on skateboard.
Iâm for the rack. Night all, sweet dreams.
Today, btw, was just bizarre. Drumpf is a meat bag excreting flop sweat. His staff is a fire ant mound that has just been kicked over. His administration is a plane crash. Itâs horrifying and disgusting, but you canât look away.
Hi.
Meanwhile here, I was wakened by the warning alarm on my weather radio this afternoon.
I looked at the display, which read âunidentified warning.â
Turned the radio on for the forecast; we have a freeze warning tonight.
it is currently 29°F. Tomorrowâs high is scheduled for 63°F.
Over in the north Atlantic, Ireland has hurricane warnings in effect for the whole west coast and half of the island, as post-tropical Hurricane Lorenzo is now expected to make a direct hit from the west.
Hurricane Lorenzo is just off the Irish coast.
met.ie (Atlantic surface map showing how weather systems around Ireland are moving)
re: #14 ckkatz
Yup, it is likely that there is going to be a lot more stochastic terrorism set off. And innocent people are going to get hurt.
While I do not have any specific knowledge, I must admit that I am more concerned about more organized groups who have been studying and practicing violence. Groups like the III%âers, the âProud Boysâ and other various Neo-Nazi groups.
At this point from what I have seen publicly, I suspect that urban and suburban local authorities can handle them. And, fortunately, they do not seem to be gaining much traction with the public at large.
Conservative violence has existed as long as the nation has. Whether itâs the Whiskey Rebellion, the Civil War, the murder and mayhem of Jim Crow, the National Alliance and the Sagebrush Rebellion, there is nothing new here.
Most of these schmucks are 101st Keyboard Warrior Division. Vigilance is always warranted, but folks like local police and the FBI also keep track of the same groups you are concerned about.
Kirk Cameron thinks atheism is contagious (in the way of an illness). He explains how he became a Christian to Ray Comfort by making up a BS story about a teacher telling him things he believed arenât really true, spurring religious research (a common Christian apologetic).
(Goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language, 14:52)
re: #8 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!
Yes, I keep hoping someone apologized to him or something.
He understands that Trump does not represent a majority of American voters.
re: #13 Dr Lizardo
The loonies are really coming out of the woodwork now and sadly, I expect weâll see more of this as the impeachment process moves forward.
Sedona. AZ was always crawling with New Agers, Crystal Heads and fans of Esoterica. Probably has to to do with the purported Spiritual Vortex located there, which itself is related to the near-perfect climate, spectacular scenery and high concentration of millionairesâ homes located there.
re: #18 Anymouse đčđ
Kirk Cameron thinks atheism is contagious (in the way of an illness). He explains how he became a Christian to Ray Comfort by making up a BS story about a teacher telling him things he believed arenât really true, spurring religious research (a common Christian apologetic).
(Goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for coarse language, 14:52)
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Sure, atheism is contagious. The vector of transmission is called âeducation.â As in the dumber you are, the more readily you buy into a 2000+ book of fairy tales written by dumb-as-dirt goat farmers and put together by a church dedicated to ensuring no texts that would hinder or question its authority be included.
re: #21 Targetpractice
Sure, atheism is contagious. The vector of transmission is called âeducation.â
Remember that to these crackers, âatheismâ or âgodlessnessâ = Evil + Sin.
They cannot grasp how other people might be able to be good human beings without fear of Eternal Damnation to keep them in line.
re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Remember that to these crackers, âatheismâ or âgodlessnessâ = Evil + Sin.
They cannot grasp how other people might be able to be good human beings without fear of Eternal Damnation to keep them in line.
In my experience, some of the crookedest fuckers tended to those who professed to being âmen of God.â And I will never understand the concept of a religious system that says âYouâre doomed for eternity for your Earthly sinsâ but also says âIf you receive absolution, then all your Earthly sins are forgiven,â and puts the power to absolve solely within the confines of the church. Thatâs not a system of morality, thatâs a system of control.
re: #23 Targetpractice
⊠Thatâs not a system of morality, thatâs a system of control.
and places the Church in charge of selling special dispensations and absolutionâŠremember that?
re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Remember that to these crackers, âatheismâ or âgodlessnessâ = Evil + Sin.
They cannot grasp how other people might be able to be good human beings without fear of Eternal Damnation to keep them in line.
Yup.
âIf you have to follow your religious faith to keep from raping and murdering, by all means donât give up your faith.â
re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
and places the Church in charge of selling special dispensations and absolutionâŠremember that?
And letâs not forget the centuries of political patronage, with dynasties made or broken by whose family member was sitting in the Chair of St Peter.
re: #23 Targetpractice
In my experience, some of the crookedest fuckers tended to those who professed to being âmen of God.â And I will never understand the concept of a religious system that says âYouâre doomed for eternity for your Earthly sinsâ but also says âIf you receive absolution, then all your Earthly sins are forgiven,â and puts the power to absolve solely within the confines of the church. Thatâs not a system of morality, thatâs a system of control.
From things which show up in my inbox from time to time. In this case, itâs sort of a response to the conservative formula of âthoughts and prayersâ when something bad happens.
Hasidim are Orthodox Jews who follow Mosaic Law strictly; they arose out of a piety movement in Judaism in the latter part of the XXVIII Century.
An interesting quotation from the book âTales of Hasidimâ:
Why Did God Create Atheists?
There is a famous story told in Chassidic literature that addresses this very question. The Master teaches the student that God created everything in the world to be appreciated, since everything is here to teach us a lesson.
One clever student asks âWhat lesson can we learn from atheists? Why did God create them?â
The Master responds âGod created atheists to teach us the most important lesson of them all â the lesson of true compassion. You see, when an atheist performs an act of charity, visits someone who is sick, helps someone in need, and cares for the world, he is not doing so because of some religious teaching. He does not believe that God commanded him to perform this act. In fact, he does not believe in God at all, so his acts are based on an inner sense of morality. And look at the kindness he can bestow upon others simply because he feels it to be right.â
âThis means,â the Master continued âthat when someone reaches out to you for help, you should never say âI pray that God will help you.â Instead for the moment, you should become an atheist, imagine that there is no God who can help, and say âI will help you.ââ
âMartin Buber, Tales of Hasidim Vol. 2 (1991)
re: #25 Anymouse đčđ
Yup.
âIf you have to follow your religious faith to keep from raping and murdering, by all means donât give up your faith.â
This is why the Bible Belt needs such fire-and-brimstone theology:left to themselves, these people are the drinkinest, whorinest, fightinest, gamblinest bunch of roustabouts and troublemakers we have ever encountered.
They need a very tightly laced moral corset to keep them at all in line, and basically, if they are not workinâ hard or prayinâ, they are sinning or fighting off the temptation to do so.
re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They keep telling us âThe South will rise again.â I keep wondering when that happens.
re: #29 Anymouse đčđ
They keep telling us âThe South will rise again.â I keep wondering when that happens.
Just as soon as the SSDI checks stop showing up in the mail.
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âSingular theyâ: God said it, I believe it, that settles it (Goes to Language Log at the University of Pennsylvania)
This is a short article on the use of the pronoun âtheyâ with a singular antecedent.
The important part of the article lists out all the Bible verses in the KJV and other versions which use âtheyâ as a singular pronoun.
re: #29 Anymouse đčđ
They keep telling us âThe South will rise again.â I keep wondering when that happens.
Well, if it means that theyâll resort to drinking, whoring and gambling as a full-time occupation, heyâŠâŠthat might well be an improvement.
re: #31 Anymouse đčđ
âSingular theyâ: God said it, I believe it, that settles it (Goes to Language Log at the University of Pennsylvania)
This is a short article on the use of the pronoun âtheyâ with a singular antecedent.
The important part of the article lists out all the Bible verses in the KJV and other versions which use âtheyâ as a singular pronoun.
In English translations of the Qurâan, God always refers to himself as âWeâ, similar to the âroyal Weâ that Queen Elizabeth II uses.
Itâs almost an entirely obsolete style, especially in American English.
re: #33 Dr Lizardo
In English translations of the Qurâan, God always refers to himself as âWeâ, similar to the âroyal Weâ that Queen Elizabeth II uses.
Itâs almost an entirely obsolete style, especially in American English.
We still use it on occasionâŠwhen we are amused.
re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We still use it on occasionâŠwhen we are amused.
A newspaper publisher will sometimes use âweâ to refer to a position the newspaper takes on a particular subject (a newspaper consisting of many people).
Irony is dead https://t.co/CzBfsT2XJj
â Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 3, 2019
Australia responds to Lindsay Grahamâs letter (and finally reads the room)
⊠you made mention of the role of an Australian diplomat. We reject your characterization of his role.â
Australiaâs response to Senator Lindsey Graham pic.twitter.com/xiQJ26errM
â Joe Hockey (@JoeHockey) October 3, 2019
re: #36 Patricia Kayden
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It really is like theyâre daring Democrats to launch an investigation into their business activities.
re: #38 Targetpractice
It really is like theyâre daring Democrats to launch an investigation into their business activities.
They know that our press will pick up the whataboutism and that will provide them with a smoke screen.
re: #38 Targetpractice
It really is like theyâre daring Democrats to launch an investigation into their business activities.
No one ever used the Trump name on a property and paid them for it to make money on a building property. /s
Trump is energized, and so is his base:
âThese people are trying to destroy our country, theyâre sick, thereâs something wrong with them,â Trump said. He repeated his complaint about Schiff making up his own dialogue when supposedly quoting from the transcript of the phone call at last weekâs hearing.
âHe quoted the president of the United States in a fraudulent manner, he made the entire thing up,â Trump said. âHe couldnât quote me because there was nothing to quote ⊠he just made the whole thing up, heâs sick.â
Schiff, who defended his fictional rendition as âparody,â is, ironically, part of the third reason for Trumpâs optimism. He cites the âtremendous responseâ among his supporters, saying they are motivated by the attacks coming from Democrats and the media.
âI see the fundraising, itâs the biggest ever,â Trump said, mentioning the record $125 million take for his campaign and the Republican National Committee.
Hilariously creepy (thread):
â Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) October 3, 2019
re: #36 Patricia Kayden
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Who the fuck are you to whine about this Beavis? Your brother in law was acting as shadow Secretary of State before your Daddy got that jagoff Pompeo.
re: #38 Targetpractice
It really is like theyâre daring Democrats to launch an investigation into their business activities.
I wouldnât be surprised right now if the Screw York Times was conspiring with BreitFART to publish âBiden Cashâ.
re: #41 Shropshire Slasher
Trump is energized, and so is his base:
His energised base didnât help much in 2018.
Meanwhile, living in a town where everyone but eight people voted for Trump, I see a lot of people who are disillusioned by the supposed promise of economic revival by Trump.
The latest state polling is in for Morning Consult regarding President Trumpâs popularity by state.
The interesting thing about the map (red is underwater, blue is supporting) is the High Plains states are sliding more.
My state (Nebr.) has slipped further: Trump is now at -2 (down from +23 in Jan 17). We are definitely in swing state territory (hey Dems, you want five electoral votes? How about campaigning here).
ND and SD are at +1 (also putting them in swing territory).
TX is +2 (also swing territory, and the death knell for the GOP if it falls to the Dems in 2020). Only Oklahoma is outside swing territory (+11).
re: #45 Anymouse đčđ
His energised base didnât help much in 2018.
Meanwhile, living in a town where everyone but eight people voted for Trump, I see a lot of people who are disillusioned by the supposed promise of economic revival by Trump.
The latest state polling is in for Morning Consult regarding President Trumpâs popularity by state.
The interesting thing about the map (red is underwater, blue is supporting) is the High Plains states are sliding more.
My state (Nebr.) has slipped further: Trump is now at -2 (down from +23 in Jan 17). We are definitely in swing state territory (hey Dems, you want five electoral votes? How about campaigning here).
ND and SD are at +1 (also putting them in swing territory).
TX is +2 (also swing territory, and the death knell for the GOP if it falls to the Dems in 2020). Only Oklahoma is outside swing territory (+11).
Not surprised about Oklahoma.
100 years ago the state with the most radical Socialist Party was Oklahoma. But add in 100 years of Right Wing Xtianity and POOF!
re: #46 Joe Bacon đč
Not surprised about Oklahoma.
100 years ago the state with the most radical Socialist Party was Oklahoma. But add in 100 years of Right Wing Xtianity and POOF!
The LBJ quote works well for Oklahoma.
re: #46 Joe Bacon đč
Not surprised about Oklahoma.
100 years ago the state with the most radical Socialist Party was Oklahoma. But add in 100 years of Right Wing Xtianity and POOF!
I had the displeasure of living in Oklahoma. The Nebraska Panhandle is positively progressive compared to Oklahoma.
I donât see some great socialist wave here in the High Plains, but moving the needle somewhat to the left of Genghis Khan would be nice.
Youâve noted your DSA group in Los Angeles is all in on Bern or Bust. Our own DSA groups here (Lincoln and Omaha) are far more pragmatic: They know that the needle is only going to move gradually, and they will support pretty much any Democrat (not Gabbard or Williamson) to prevent another Trumpsterfire.
re: #41 Shropshire Slasher
Trump is energized, and so is his base:
As Anymouse already noted, red voters were also âenergizedâ in 2018, so much so that they surpassed the 2016 turnout. Problem was that the anti-Trump vote was so much higher that even increased wingnut turnout did not save their asses. And that was an election where A) Trump wasnât on the ballot and B) he wasnât facing impeachment.
Iâm sure that Trump is thrilled by that fundraising take, as itâs even more money that will end up in his pockets before next November.
re: #49 Targetpractice
As Anymouse already noted, red voters were also âenergizedâ in 2018, so much so that they surpassed the 2016 turnout. Problem was that the anti-Trump vote was so much higher that even increased wingnut turnout did not save their asses. And that was an election where A) Trump wasnât on the ballot and B) he wasnât facing impeachment.
Iâm sure that Trump is thrilled by that fundraising take, as itâs even more money that will end up in his pockets before next November.
Rest assured that Charles Koch, the Mercers, Adelson, Foster Fries and the My Pillow Asshole will be prepared to dump hundreds of millions of dollars into the GOP to keep the Republicans in control of the Senate.
His base is probably energized but so is ours. And the best heâs had against Warren is the lame Pocahontas insult?
re: #50 Joe Bacon đč
Rest assured that Charles Koch, the Mercers, Adelson, Foster Fries and the My Pillow Asshole will be prepared to dump hundreds of millions of dollars into the GOP to keep the Republicans in control of the Senate.
Maybe so. Mr. Koch has noted he would fund Democrats this time around though (and any Democrat who took his money would probably be toast).
The GOP is still defending more seats than the Dems. That said, some of those seats are in particularly red states (like Mike Enzi in Wyoming). Weâll have to see what happens. What we donât need is a lefty version of the Tea Party.
re: #49 Targetpractice
What were the Democrats running on in 2018? Donât you think the constant barrage of impeachment hearings will drown out the voices of sanity in the Democratic Party?
Hereâs hoping the leader of the free world doesnât lose his mind in front of the planet again today.
Am I too late already to wish that?
re: #52 Anymouse đčđ
Maybe so. Mr. Koch has noted he would fund Democrats this time around though (and any Democrat who took his money would probably be toast).
The GOP is still defending more seats than the Dems. That said, some of those seats are in particularly red states (like Mike Enzi in Wyoming). Weâll have to see what happens. What we donât need is a lefty version of the Tea Party.
GOP is defending more seats, is losing more and more incumbent advantage with each retirement, and thatâs even before we get into the down ticket races in states that are being forced to redraw their districts after years of gerrymandering.
re: #53 Shropshire Slasher
What were the Democrats running on in 2018? Donât you think the constant barrage of impeachment hearings will drown out the voices of sanity in the Democratic Party?
âVoices of sanityâ? You mean like Tulsi Gabbard?
re: #56 Targetpractice
âVoices of sanityâ? You mean like Tulsi Gabbard?
Itâs a false choice. Impeachment is sanity. Pretending that Trumpism is in any way normal or acceptable is not.
Pardon me if I donât want to hear about what Trumpâs âbaseâ being stirred up when heâs never polled above 50% and makes his own scandals worse.
For the European contingent of LGF:
I just received an invitation to come to Germany for an event of an organisation I belong to.
I ran the idea by my wife, and she says we have the money to go. It will be in Aschaffenburg, Germany on May 21-24, 2020.
If we go (it seems promising at the moment) there is a possibility we can inflict ourselves on European LGF members.
re: #54 b.d. (Impeach them all)
Hereâs hoping the leader of the free world doesnât lose his mind in front of the planet again today.
Am I too late already to wish that?
I think Justin Trudeau is pretty sane. I imagine he wonât melt down on television. /s
re: #53 Shropshire Slasher
What were the Democrats running on in 2018? Donât you think the constant barrage of impeachment hearings will drown out the voices of sanity in the Democratic Party?
Preserving healthcare, the economy, and holding Mr. Trump accountable for his actions.
If Mr. Trump is still in office, that theme doesnât change. In the meantime, when the rubber hits the road, I really donât think a whole bunch of farmers or manufacturing workers want to lose their jobs and homes just to âown the libsâ (and the ones who do probably deserve it anyway).
Weâll have to see: Itâs still over a year before the election.
re: #27 Anymouse đčđ
From things which show up in my inbox from time to time. In this case, itâs sort of a response to the conservative formula of âthoughts and prayersâ when something bad happens.
Hasidim are Orthodox Jews who follow Mosaic Law strictly; they arose out of a piety movement in Judaism in the latter part of the XXVIII Century.
An interesting quotation from the book âTales of Hasidimâ:
Why Did God Create Atheists?
There is a famous story told in Chassidic literature that addresses this very question. The Master teaches the student that God created everything in the world to be appreciated, since everything is here to teach us a lesson.
One clever student asks âWhat lesson can we learn from atheists? Why did God create them?â
The Master responds âGod created atheists to teach us the most important lesson of them all â the lesson of true compassion. You see, when an atheist performs an act of charity, visits someone who is sick, helps someone in need, and cares for the world, he is not doing so because of some religious teaching. He does not believe that God commanded him to perform this act. In fact, he does not believe in God at all, so his acts are based on an inner sense of morality. And look at the kindness he can bestow upon others simply because he feels it to be right.â
âThis means,â the Master continued âthat when someone reaches out to you for help, you should never say âI pray that God will help you.â Instead for the moment, you should become an atheist, imagine that there is no God who can help, and say âI will help you.ââ
âMartin Buber, Tales of Hasidim Vol. 2 (1991)
I like that story.
The âvoices of sanityâ largely are falling into the âNothing is getting done!â camp, which was pretty well addressed yesterday by Pelosi. The House is getting things done, itâs passing bills, but those bills are sitting in the Senate by order of Mitch McConnell. And this is not something that started last week, heâs been sitting on bills for months and has sworn that certain bills that weâre told impeachment is âimperilingâ would never come to a vote. So yes, itâs a false dilemma, the idea that the price for legislation that was never going anywhere to begin with is letting Trump skate on his crimes until next November.
If you want to understand where voters get the idea that âboth sides are the same,â look to those âvoices of sanity.â
re: #41 Shropshire Slasher
Trump is energized, and so is his base:
âso is his baseâ
âso is his baseâ
His base might be strong, but thatâs not the same as the Republican base.
But also, Trumps base is small. Even if they are really motivated and turn out to vote in higher numbers, a high turnout rate for 30% of voters, is going to be relatively small to a increased turnout rate for the 55% (or so) of voters who are sick of his shit.
Even without any new events occurring, the 2020 elections are going to be incredibly tough for Republicans. And weâve got a whole year of President Sundown losing his shit.
At the risk of making a prediction - this is likely to come to an end more suddenly (though maybe not soon), when someone forces Trump to sit down and answer questions in front of a camera.
re: #64 Danack
Considering how rapidly Mr. Trump seems to be declining (at least to me), Iâm not sure he will be able to mount an effective campaign for President.
He hasnât held a Nuremberg Electric Boogaloo 2 rally in some time. Heâs mostly avoiding public appearances. Heâs spending more time on Twitter.
On the GOP side of the aisle, there has to be calculations by Republican politicians whether they need to stay connected to him or distance themselves from him. The RNC is sticking by him because thatâs their job.
The number of Republicans headed for the exits seems to show the party as its behaving now canât hold.
re: #58 HappyWarrior
But what he is polling at is far to high to try to impeach him.
Good thing Trump doesnât care about polls.
More ominous numbers https://t.co/oNvOZHI2F3
â Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 3, 2019
re: #64 Danack
I heard that in 2016, wasnât accurate, but maybe it will energize the Democrats base. Iâm of the opinion the breathlessness of the impeachment cry will wear them out
re: #66 Shropshire Slasher
But what he is polling at is far to high to try to impeach him.
Impeachment investigations are already underway.
Nixon was polling quite high until the investigation started. As the information came out, his support suddenly collapsed and a couple weeks later he was out.
I donât see Mr. Trump resigning (at least not willingly) because he would view resignation as defeat. (That, and those states champing at the bit for state prosecutions.)
Trump has always been underwater, and in the last few days suddenly sunk in polling. Even Rasmussen has him (slightly) underwater.
re: #66 Shropshire Slasher
But what he is polling at is far to high to try to impeach him.
See Nixon, Richard M.
re: #68 Shropshire Slasher
I heard that in 2016, wasnât accurate, but maybe it will energize the Democrats base. Iâm of the opinion the breathlessness of the impeachment cry will wear them out
Mrs. Clinton won the election by popular vote. The problem is the Electoral College is weighted toward acres and not people.
What is noteworthy is the slide in nominally red states like mine (as noted above, he won with +25 in the vote but is currently -2).
There is more than one way to win an election. One is energising more of your voters than the other guys. Another is that the other guys are disillusioned and chose to vote for the Democrats (or donât vote at all).
In my state, the voter turnout was north of 80% (mail voting works) in the 2016 election. The GOP really doesnât have more people they can energise: They need to appeal to the squishy middle and Democrats who didnât vote because they saw voting as pointless in such a Trump-loving state.
Democrats arenât voting for the GOP here (which explains why in the local 2018 elections the state party fielded the most Democratic candidates in history and a huge number won - my own reĂ«lection failing was actually a minority of the Democratic candidates on the ballot here). The squishy 20% or so who didnât vote here are the target of both the GOP and Dems, and the GOP really doesnât have a lot to offer them (a wall a thousand miles away? Soybean and corn prices crashing?)
re: #66 Shropshire Slasher
But what he is polling at is far to high to try to impeach him.
Heâs been steadily polling lower than either Nixon or Clinton when impeachment inquiries began and his numbers have been in decline since last week. In fact, by contrast, when Clinton was impeached, his job approval numbers jumped 10 pts to 73%.
re: #46 Joe Bacon đč
Not surprised about Oklahoma.
100 years ago the state with the most radical Socialist Party was Oklahoma. But add in 100 years of Right Wing Xtianity and POOF!
Great article this month in the Smithsonian on the Oklahoma Socialist âGreen Corn Rebellion.â
My wife is watching a series on Hulu called âBless This Mess,â about a city family which inherits a farm in ultra-rural Nebraska. They move here and try to run the farm.
My wife notes the farm looks like a farm around here (perhaps near the village of Arthur).
re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We still use it on occasionâŠwhen we are amused.
We use it sometimesâŠwhen we are petsing our precioussss.
his presidency is collapsing, yet the need to normalize remains strong
â Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) October 3, 2019
Also: âenemiesâ doesnât really capture that heâs vilifying the press in scary and authoritarian ways. âImaginedâ doesnât really capture that heâs just makes shot up and then lies about it. Frequently. On tv.
So Iâd tell the @nytimes to do better, but then..,â Soledad OâBrien (@soledadobrien) October 3, 2019
It can be treading familiar ground to knock on the NYT, but itâs important because of just how damaging their âboth sidesâ pathology is, and how, while theyâre the worst offender, theyâre not outliers. Just the vanguard of the absurd normalization afforded to Trump and Co.
re: #67 b.d. (Impeach them all)
Good thing Trump doesnât care about polls.
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In ânormalâ times, this would be dreadful news indeed for a sitting President facing scandals: 45% favoring âimpeachment and removalâ NOW? Basically, Trumpâs numbers are starting where Nixonâs ended. Just before Tricky Dick went on that one-way helicopter rideâŠ
But, as consistently and insistently noted, weâre living in far from ânormalâ times.
re: #73 Barefoot Grin
Great article this month in the Smithsonian on the Oklahoma Socialist âGreen Corn Rebellion.â
Oklahomaâs entire existence is the result of socialism.
Starting with the Homestead Act â the federal government gave FREE LAND!! to people who couldnât possibly have pulled together cash for purchases. The federal government provided for the safety of the people on that land, by having US Army remove the previous owners who would have objected to the new arrivals. Then the federal government built a railroad, so these farmers would have a market available for their crops. And land grant universities, so the farmersâ kids would be well-educated as to the newest best practices in farming (which were discovered by federally funded research). And when the farmers ignored the best practices and over planted the whole region into a dust bowl â it was federally funded scientists with their federally funded staff and federally funded equipment and supplies who rehabbed the land to make it productive again. Those farms are still receiving price supports and subsidies.
But how dare THOSE PEOPLE want a handout paid for by the taxes paid by these intrepid, hard-working, self-made bootstrappers who earned everything themselves with no help from anyone.
re: #76 Citizen K
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It can be treading familiar ground to knock on the NYT, but itâs important because of just how damaging their âboth sidesâ pathology is, and how, while theyâre the worst offender, theyâre not outliers. Just the vanguard of the absurd normalization afforded to Trump and Co.
He reiterated on live TV his demands that Schiff resign for something that is not a crime and that he be tried for âtreason.â âStormy mood,â my ass.
re: #79 Targetpractice
He reiterated on live TV his demands that Schiff resign for something that is not a crime and that he be tried for âtreason.â âStormy mood,â my ass.
Câmon, I mean, itâs not like he did something truly obscene like use a curse word or something live.
re: #51 HappyWarrior
His base is probably energized but so is ours. And the best heâs had against Warren is the lame Pocahontas insult?
What I wouldnât give to have Warren give trump a stern âOh, grow up, youâre not five years oldâ in a debateâŠface to face.
Maybe âstormy moodâ was somebodyâs attempt at a bad pun?
re: #76 Citizen K
It can be treading familiar ground to knock on the NYT, but itâs important because of just how damaging their âboth sidesâ pathology is, and how, while theyâre the worst offender, theyâre not outliers. Just the vanguard of the absurd normalization afforded to Trump and Co.
If you think the Times is normalising him, youâre not seeing my local media (newspapers, television, and radio).
Tom Steyer could do a great service by purchasing media outlets in red states to provide actual balanced news coverage, instead of a quixotic run at the Presidency. Sheldon Adelson shut down the close investigative journalism exposing corruption in the casino industry in Las Vegas (including his casino) by purchasing the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Iâd buy someone all the drinks if they bought the Scottsbluff Star-Herald just so it reports mostly balanced news coverage.
We get right-wing opinion columns to balance the far-right opinion columns.
The only liberal voice they ever get is when they print a letter from a Democrat in the area in the letters column. (I was amazed they printed a letter from me going after the publisher of the newspaper.)
Over in the county next door, the Garden County News eliminated all political coverage in their paper (even local politics) to encourage âcivility.â (The News is an independently-owned paper.)
re: #78 sagehen
tarting with the Homestead Act â the federal government gave FREE LAND!! to people who couldnât possibly have pulled together cash for purchases..
I always found it funny that straight, law-abiding people enjoyed calling themselves âSoonersâ to celebrate cheating their neighbors by getting to that free land before the legal start.
re: #82 sagehen
Maybe âstormy moodâ was somebodyâs attempt at a bad pun?
Stormy Daniels for President! Make Porn Great Again!
Louisiana has still not solved (that means hasnât bothered to investigate) who blew up her campaign managerâs car when she was running for the Senate there.
re: #83 Anymouse đčđ
the Garden County News eliminated all political coverage in their paper (even local politics) to encourage âcivility.â
The âshut up and endure whatâs coming to youâ method.
re: #86 jaunte
The âshut up and endure whatâs coming to youâ method.
They claim now they only print âgood news.â
I ended my subscription to their paper when they ended local political coverage.
They also will not print any political letters to the editor.
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re: #83 Anymouse đčđ
If you think the Times is normalising him, youâre not seeing my local media (newspapers, television, and radio).
Tom Steyer could do a great service by purchasing media outlets in red states to provide actual balanced news coverage, instead of a quixotic run at the Presidency. Sheldon Adelson shut down the close investigative journalism exposing corruption in the casino industry in Las Vegas (including his casino) by purchasing the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Iâd buy someone all the drinks if they bought the Scottsbluff Star-Herald just so it reports mostly balanced news coverage.
We get right-wing opinion columns to balance the far-right opinion columns.
The only liberal voice they ever get is when they print a letter from a Democrat in the area in the letters column. (I was amazed they printed a letter from me going after the publisher of the newspaper.)
Over in the county next door, the Garden County News eliminated all political coverage in their paper (even local politics) to encourage âcivility.â (The News is an independently-owned paper.)
True, but arguably, the Times doing it is much worse, both in scope and in optics. The Times is a national paper with international reach by comparison, and not to mention one of the regularly derided âLiberal Mediaâ. Them going all in on the normalization effort sets the baseline and does a whole lot in openly pushing the Overton Window rightward. Thereâs a reason why folks around here and other lefty blogs tend to deride the whole thing of âEven The Liberal _____âŠâ.
re: #49 Targetpractice
As Anymouse already noted, red voters were also âenergizedâ in 2018, so much so that they surpassed the 2016 turnout. Problem was that the anti-Trump vote was so much higher that even increased wingnut turnout did not save their asses. And that was an election where A) Trump wasnât on the ballot and B) he wasnât facing impeachment.
Iâm sure that Trump is thrilled by that fundraising take, as itâs even more money that will end up in his pockets before next November.
Itâll end up in the pockets of his legal âteamâ because heâs going to be diverting so much of that campaign funds to pay his legal defense across all the lawsuits, impeachment, etc.
And yet, the money keeps flowing into Facebook to misinform the masses via the agitprop Trump spews directly to his base.
*whispers in your ear*
the disaster is the most obviously corrupt president in American history and a complicit and craven Republican Party https://t.co/PBTxVrXzotâ LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) October 3, 2019
re: #69 Anymouse đčđ
We were also waging a very unpopular war. At that time the broadcast media had much more power to shape the daily news narrative. Now? Trump has this thing called tweeting that sets the narrative.
Geez, even fucking Nickelback wants nothing to do with Trump.
This: https://t.co/Oqh8YjeMMk
â Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) October 3, 2019
re: #91 jaunte
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Which means that if it comes in 10K above the estimate, weâll be told that the economy is âstronger than predictedâ and this helps Trumpâs fight against impeachment.
Thatâs not what happened Glenn. Do you ever read your own website?https://t.co/ycpWaPQge2
â aceoaces (@aceoaces) October 3, 2019
Do you think the people who work at the The Intercept are ever embarrassed by Glenn?
While weâre discussing the media, it seems the state media is faltering:
Brian Kilmeade: âToday Kurt Volker goes up, heâs the [former] envoy to the Ukraineâ
Steve Doocy: âHeâs going to say he was pressured out.â
Kilmeade: âUhh *three second pause* Iâm not sure.â pic.twitter.com/uhUyKozCUVâ Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) October 3, 2019
re: #70 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire
And you are assuming the hearings will be a net positive for the Democrats.
â ⧠We R The Squirrels ⧠(@WeRTheSquirrels) October 3, 2019
re: #96 Targetpractice
While weâre discussing the media, it seems the state media is faltering:
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Those couch cancers havenât had to think for years and havenât been made to play defense.
Theyâre old dogs who will not pick up on this new trick very easily.
Good! The timing could not have been better.
re: #90 lawhawk
Itâll end up in the pockets of his legal âteamâ because heâs going to be diverting so much of that campaign funds to pay his legal defense across all the lawsuits, impeachment, etc.
And yet, the money keeps flowing into Facebook to misinform the masses via the agitprop Trump spews directly to his base.
The more money they line Trumpâs pockets with, the less money for other conservative candidates.
I just got an E-mail from a friend in Switzerland (IRL friend) urging me to come to the convention in Germany in May. He points out that Europe can handle two cornpones from the Nebraska Panhandle.
My wifeâs been thinking about this, and she is warming to the idea. Weâll likely be calling the travel agent in Oshkosh to make an appointment to plan a flight from Regina, Saskatchewan to Frankfurt now.
LGFers in Europe better hide, it looks like weâre coming soon.
Democrats now realize all they have to do is keep encouraging Trump to have public panic attacks and temper tantrums.
What you most hear from congressional Republicans on impeachment this week is the sound of silence.
GOP sources tell CNN they have a good reason for that fear. They have no idea what else House Democratsâ investigation will uncover or what comes next.
Along with that fear is frustration with President Donald Trump: his ranting in performances full of false claims, like Wednesday in the Oval Office and White House East Room, and stream of consciousness rapid-fire tweets â curse words and all â are not exactly an anti-impeachment road map for his fellow RepublicansâŠ
And although phrases like âwitch huntâ and âhoaxâ worked for the President politically during the investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller, concerned GOP sources â more than half a dozen, including some in leadership who are talking to and hearing from the rank and file â tell CNN that they worry the President isnât comprehending what they believe to be true, that this is differentâŠ
Several congressional Republicans tell CNN that their concern is exacerbated by getting very little guidance from the White House. CNN reported last week that, despite an initial flirtation with setting up an impeachment war room in the mold of Bill Clintonâs White House during his impeachment, the Trump team is not going there now.
âThere is no White House war room. Why are we the ones who have to defend him?â asked one congressional GOP source.
re: #97 Shropshire Slasher
And you are assuming the hearings will be a net positive for the Democrats.
And youâre assuming that Trumpâs corruption and criminality that is out in the open is a net benefit to the GOP?
Who are you kidding.
Oh wait. Youâre just parroting GOP talking points even as new polling continues to see support grow for impeachment and removal from office.
re: #97 Shropshire Slasher
And you are assuming the hearings will be a net positive for the Democrats.
Just announcing the investigation has tipped the numbers considerably.
The very thought of impeachment is making Trump lose his mind in public.
SoâŠ.yeah. Net positive for sure.
re: #97 Shropshire Slasher
And you are assuming the hearings will be a net positive for the Democrats.
If future hearings are anything like that conducted with Acting Director Maguire last week, then I think the Dem leadership has a lot of reason to believe future hearings will only further harm the WHâs position.
Trump Wanted Border Guards to Have Bayonets https://t.co/vKolfyiqq1 via @politicalwire
â Taegan Goddard (@politicalwire) October 3, 2019
Trump is so nuts his people have to try to suppress stories about what he actually says.
âDeputy White House press secretary Hogan Gidley declined to comment on the presidentâs suggestions.â
re: #104 lawhawk
I look forward to to see Adam Schiff continue to make an ass out of himself. Troll? Thatâs the best you got? Yawn.
My wife made her decision.
We are going to Germany.
She also wants to combine that with a rail trip across France, Spain, and Portugal.
I guess I need to make an appointment with the travel agent.
re: #108 Shropshire Slasher
I look forward to to see Adam Schiff continue to make an ass out of himself. Troll? Thatâs the best you got? Yawn.
Youâre right, Schiff asking Maguire on live TV about a prank involving naked photos of Trump was a laugh riotâŠoh wait, that was Nunes.
re: #110 Targetpractice
Howâs his lawsuit against a cow coming along?
re: #107 jaunte
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Trump is so nuts his people have to try to suppress stories about what he actually says.
âDeputy White House press secretary Hogan Gidley declined to comment on the presidentâs suggestions.â
And I have a feeling another thing they are likely to want to suppress is the level of Trump-voter/GOP support said âbayonetsâ proposal would actually have.
re: #108 Shropshire Slasher
I look forward to to see Adam Schiff continue to make an ass out of himself. Troll? Thatâs the best you got? Yawn.
Where has Rep. Schiff âmade an ass out of himself?â Please show your work.
My Republicypher representative Adrian Smith (NE-3) says absolutely nothing about any of this. All he does is say how heâs working on behalf of Nebraska farmers and ranchers. He is entirely avoiding the elephant in the room.
re: #112 Jay C
3% want to handle the bayonet themselves.
0% if the other side brings bayonets.
re: #111 jaunte
Howâs his lawsuit against a cow coming along?
Itâs moooooooooving along.
Itâs not even a cow; itâs a parody cow.
re: #107 jaunte
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âDeputy White House press secretary Hogan Gidley declined to comment on the presidentâs suggestions.â
Bayonets, sounds perfectly unmonsterlike. This guy wonât even fire his own employees to their face but wants our border guys to ram bayonets through women and children trying to have the opportunity for a better life.
re: #113 Anymouse đčđ
Where has Rep. Schiff âmade an ass out of himself?â Please show your work.
My Republicypher representative Adrian Smith (NE-3) says absolutely nothing about any of this. All he does is say how heâs working on behalf of Nebraska farmers and ranchers. He is entirely avoiding the elephant in the room.
Iâm gonna guess âmade up a transcriptâ or some wording to that effect, the talking point du jour among wingnuts who want desperately to act as though theyâre the ones looking good in all this.
re: #115 Anymouse đčđ
Itâs moooooooooving along.
Itâs not even a cow; itâs a parody cow.
Do parody cows make I canât believe itâs not butter?
Wife: I thought you were going to take out the trash?
Me: ASK THE PRESIDENT OF FINLAND A QUESTION!â Angry Staffer (@AngrierWHStaff) October 3, 2019
re: #113 Anymouse đčđ
Schiffâs parody of Trumpâs phone calls to the Ukraine. That. Was. Dumb. Where is that whistleblower report anyway?
Holding a lawless president accountable for criminal behavior is not a partisan issue. Presenting it as such is to deflect and defend it.
re: #124 BigPapa
You have to wonder why anyone would be so invested in the hopeless cause of pretending this president* is a net positive for the country.
This must-read piece by @ThePlumLineGS does something Iâve been waiting for: add up Trumpâs ridiculous legal arguments, which place him above the law/King George III. https://t.co/nZZcZR86Ab
â Neal Katyal (@neal_katyal) October 3, 2019
re: #108 Shropshire Slasher
I look forward to to see Adam Schiff continue to make an ass out of himself. Troll? Thatâs the best you got? Yawn.
Fuck off.
re: #97 Shropshire Slasher
And you are assuming the hearings will be a net positive for the Democrats.
Hearings arenât meant to be a net positive for a political party. Hearings are to determine if behaviour or actions warrant removal from office.
Hearings could also clear Mr. Trump of any suspicion. In that event, the GOP and Mr. Trump should welcome the chance to show he is not unfit for office. Any impeachment hearings before the relevant committees allow Republican representatives to present evidence which they believe debunks claims against him.
Over on the Senate side (assuming articles of impeachment are actually approved, which is not a sure thing yet), in the Senate trial Mr. Trump or his allies are free to present any sort of evidence showing that he has not broken the law or violated his oath.
The process of impeachment still provides for the person impeached to present their case that they have not done anything untoward or illegal.
Sen. Lindsey Graham noted during the impeachment of Bill Clinton that the purpose of impeachment was to remove the stain of impropriety on the office of the Presidency.
As such, the constitutional procedure of impeachment protects the office, not the person.
Schiff didnât parody, he paraphrased. In that this was over a 3 hour hearing with much damning testimony, focusing on Schiffâs paraphrasing of events is pretty desperate. Supporters of President Cartman are grasping at *anything* that can be used to make more noise and muddy the waters.
And Iâm fucking enjoying every bit of the increasing ridiculousness.
re: #108 Shropshire Slasher
I look forward to to see Adam Schiff continue to make an ass out of himself. Troll? Thatâs the best you got? Yawn.
Gotta love that quoting Trump is now the fault of the quote. But, I get it. You watching your party turn to shit in real time and itâs hard to handle.
re: #111 jaunte
Howâs his lawsuit against a cow coming along?
Screw that, Iâm more interested in Rudy filing suit against âThe Swamp.â
re: #121 Shropshire Slasher
Schiffâs parody of Trumpâs phone calls to the Ukraine. That. Was. Dumb. Where is that whistleblower report anyway?
Not so âdumbâ that it didnât have the near-immediate effect of making Donald Trump lose his shit on live TV and end up ranting, spewing, and calling Schiff a âtraitorâ. Whose credibility do you think was more damaged?*
And that POTUS Donald Trump has - outside of his cultish âbaseâ - pretty much trashed whatever inherent credibility his office ought to have provided him, is IMO, one of the great underreported aspects of this whole sorry (Mal)Administration.
re: #131 makeitstop
Thereâs a âno standingâ joke in there somewhere.
re: #121 Shropshire Slasher
Schiffâs parody of Trumpâs phone calls to the Ukraine. That. Was. Dumb. Where is that whistleblower report anyway?
Adam Schiff did not âparodyâ the report; he paraphrased it and said so.
As for âwhere is the whistleblower report,â if I can find it in two seconds on a search engine using an Internet service connexion consisting of two cans with a seven hundred mile string between them and read it, Iâm sure you can.
At any rate, here it is. Please read it. I dare you.
READ: House Intel Committee Releases Whistleblower Complaint On Trump-Ukraine Call (goes to NPR)
re: #131 makeitstop
Screw that, Iâm more interested in Rudy filing suit against âThe Swamp.â
Bring on discovery!
Really, what WH talking point will we be subjected to next?
âSchiff orchestrated the whistleblower report!â?
âThe whistleblower form was changed âmysteriouslyâ!â?
âThere was no explicit âquid pro quoâ!â?
Iâm breathless with anticipation.
re: #136 Targetpractice
Really, what WH talking point will we be subjected to next?
âSchiff orchestrated the whistleblower report!â?
âThe whistleblower form was changed âmysteriouslyâ!â?
âThere was no explicit âquid pro quoâ!â?
Iâm breathless with anticipation.
Schiff wrote the report!!!
//
Oh good grief, this petty ass.
Trump posted the Nickleback video to the Official White House Youtube channel after it was pulled from Twitter pic.twitter.com/HRfeU6uIJ0
â Oliver Willis (@owillis) October 3, 2019
(And no, thatâs not a joke, they really went ahead and just put it on Youtube after it was struck on Twitter)
re: #117 Targetpractice
Iâm gonna guess âmade up a transcriptâ or some wording to that effect, the talking point du jour among wingnuts who want desperately to act as though theyâre the ones looking good in all this.
I believe the reasoning theyâre attempting is this:
1. Whistleblower calls Schiff out of concern (why would a whistleblower call otherwise).
2. Schiff tells the whistleblower to say that Trump did X.
3. Whistleblower says Trump did X.
(Now watch where this goes off the rails)
4. Trump says he did X.
5. Trump releases transcript saying he did X.
(Now we have to fix this)
6. Trump denies he did X.
7. Trump says transcript he released doesnât exist.
Wingnut radio got the talking point to hammer on the changing of the whistlblower law from 1st hand evidence only to 2nd hand evidence âright before the whistleblower submitted his complaintâ and AHA! ConSPIRACY!
re: #27 Anymouse đčđ
Great lesson! Thanks for posting it.
re: #108 Shropshire Slasher
I got to ask you SSâŠAre you Michael Tracey?????????????
re: #142 The Pie Overlord!
Great lesson! Thanks for posting it.
Well, itâs not original to me as I noted. I found it interesting though.
re: #139 Citizen K
Oh good grief, this petty ass.
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Because looking petty as fuck is really gonna impress the voters.
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re: #145 Targetpractice
The liddleâest president*
The Banter takes a bunch of Hillary hating Loony Leftists (Greenwald, Halper, Tracey, Mate) to the woodshed and gives them the damned good whacking they deserve!
re: #140 Belafon
I believe the reasoning theyâre attempting is this:
1. Whistleblower calls Schiff out of concern (why would a whistleblower call otherwise).
2. Schiff tells the whistleblower to say that Trump did X.
3. Whistleblower says Trump did X.
(Now watch where this goes off the rails)
4. Trump says he did X.
5. Trump releases transcript saying he did X.
(Now we have to fix this)
6. Trump denies he did X.
7. Trump says transcript he released doesnât exist.
Yep, the point shit went sideways for Repubs was the moment Trump admitted to the crime. Before that, they could dismiss it as ârumorâ or a âconspiracy theoryâ and insist that there was simply no way that the whistleblower report pertained to a serious matter. Then he opened his gob because he felt untouchable and things snowballed from there.
re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
He understands that Trump does not represent a majority of American voters.
Thatâs the thing. The president is our representative, whether we like it or not, whether he has our support or not. He was put into office in form of law, majority or not.
An incident like that reflects on all of us.
re: #140 Belafon
I believe the reasoning theyâre attempting is this:
1. Whistleblower calls Schiff out of concern (why would a whistleblower call otherwise).
2. Schiff tells the whistleblower to say that Trump did X.
3. Whistleblower says Trump did X.
(Now watch where this goes off the rails)
4. Trump says he did X.
5. Trump releases transcript saying he did X.
(Now we have to fix this)
6. Trump denies he did X.
7. Trump says transcript he released doesnât exist.
I dunno: tbh, this timeline seems to be pretty much the way the âUkrainegate whistleblowerâ flap actually has worked out: with exception of point 2). Which I would edit to say:
2) Schiff tells the whistleblower to go to the relevant IG to say that Trump did X
Of course, itâs points 4-7 which are the sick partâŠ.
Beyond the warm joy of watching everybody laugh at Hipster Coffee Boy Wohl and The Fly Burkman be ridiculed, a large amount of people are enjoying the thought of Warren getting some side action from young stud. If only she paid him $130k to shaddap!
re: #150 Jay C
I dunno: tbh, this timeline seems to be pretty much the way the âUkrainegate whistleblowerâ flap actually has worked out: with exception of point 2). Which I would edit to say:
2) Schiff tells the whistleblower to go to the relevant IG to say that Trump did X
Of course, itâs points 4-7 which are the sick partâŠ.
The first few steps are what SS and the other Republicans are attempting to argue. Then they have to deny what happened next for it to work. As Targetpractice said, it would have worked had Trump shut up and not released anything.
I am just waiting for Elizabeth Warren to goof on Wohl and Burkman. It will be a treat to see her engage in Tongue-Fu and rip those assholes to pieces!
re: #153 Joe Bacon đč
I am just waiting for Elizabeth Warren to goof on Wohl and Burkman. It will be a treat to see her engage in Tongue-Fu and rip those assholes to pieces!
Or she should just ignore them. I find it interesting that nothing happened to Wohl after he tried to pay women to deride Mueller. Thatâs a hell of White privilege heâs got going fir him.
re: #153 Joe Bacon đč
I am just waiting for Elizabeth Warren to goof on Wohl and Burkman. It will be a treat to see her engage in Tongue-Fu and rip those assholes to pieces!
If asked about the alleged long term/months whirlwind affair, Warren winks and says âSemper Fiâ I will drop to the floor and do the Wiggle Worm before death.
We ride at dawn
â Eightzero (@Eightzero3) October 3, 2019
re: #154 Patricia Kayden
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Trump Is Going to Burn Down Everything
quoted from the politicalwire.com excerpt in its entirety
(i could bold the whole thing)
Rick Wilson: âIn private, Republicans are in the deepest despair of the Trump era. Theyâve got that hang-dog, dick-in-the-dirt fatalism of men destined to die in a meaningless battle in a pointless war. Theyâve abandoned all pretense of recapturing the House, their political fortunes in the states are crashing and burning, and the stock-market bubble they kept up as a shield against the downsides of Trumpââbut muh 401(k)!ââis popping.â
âYou want to know why so few Republicans have held town-hall meetings since early 2017? Because Trump is the cancer they deny is consuming them from the inside out. They see the political grave markers of 42 of their GOP House colleaguesâand several hundred down-ballot Republicansâbooted from office since 2017 and know that outside of the deepest red enclaves, theyâre salesmen for a brand no one is buying.â
âI have some bad news, Republicans. It never gets better. There is no daylight at the end of this tunnel. Trump is a suicide bomber, and youâve strapped yourselves to him so tightly that when he explodes, youâre going out to meet the 72 porn stars of the Trumpian afterlife with him. (Spoiler alert: They all look like Ivanka.)â
re: #130 Belafon
Gotta love that quoting Trump is now the fault of the quote. But, I get it. You watching your party turn to shit in real time and itâs hard to handle.
In fairness, I was also mystified as to why Schiff felt like he needed to paraphrase Trumpâs transcript. Just read the damned thing. Keep the tone serious. The paraphrase wasnât meant to be funny, but it smelled a bit of typical congressional grandstanding. And Schiff is way too good at examination to have to resort to that sort of thing.
re: #161 DangerMan
They all look like Ivanka
Thatâs not necessarily an insult. Now, if they all were copies of Ivanka talking about how Trump is better than the Republican is, that would be some great hell.
re: #63 Targetpractice
The âvoices of sanityâ largely are falling into the âNothing is getting done!â camp, which was pretty well addressed yesterday by Pelosi. The House is getting things done, itâs passing bills, but those bills are sitting in the Senate by order of Mitch McConnell. And this is not something that started last week, heâs been sitting on bills for months and has sworn that certain bills that weâre told impeachment is âimperilingâ would never come to a vote. So yes, itâs a false dilemma, the idea that the price for legislation that was never going anywhere to begin with is letting Trump skate on his crimes until next November.
If you want to understand where voters get the idea that âboth sides are the same,â look to those âvoices of sanity.â
quoted for âthatâs the Dems 2 pronged attackâ
- we can do the peopleâs business and carry on an impeachment at the same time
- and also stating mcconnell is the clog
Perfectly sane, no projection here at all:
Fake News, just like the snakes and gators in the moat. The Media is deranged, they have lost their minds! https://t.co/rk26SXj4il
â Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 3, 2019
âGreen Acres Is The Place For MeâŠâ
Jack, did you & that Wohl clown identify the whistleblower yet? As I recall, you claimed youâd be doing that yesterday. Another empty promise? pic.twitter.com/x2wDKYOg72
â Liddleâ âIl Duceâ Coup (@OK_Dumbass) October 3, 2019
re: #166 b.d. (Impeach them all)
Perfectly sane, no projection here at all:
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In other words itâs either on the money or so close that he reflexively is disputing it.
The 40 Republican House members who lost their seats last November could not be immediately reached for comment https://t.co/yMoZPycV6a
â Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 3, 2019
re: #66 Shropshire Slasher
But what he is polling at is far to high to try to impeach him.
no hearings yet
no testimony under oath or on television
no receipt of requested / subpoeaned documents
this is only the first week
which way did the polls move in that week?
We know you want to stock your moat with piranhas!
â The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) October 3, 2019
re: #162 steve_davis
Schiff cheapened the whole process. Amateur.
re: #172 Shropshire Slasher
Schiff cheapened the whole process. Amateur.
The bar for cheapening an office has been moved significantly since Hair Furor lied by taking the oath.
re: #172 Shropshire Slasher
Schiff cheapened the whole process. Amateur.
âcheapened the whole processâ
These jokes just write themselves sometimes.
re: #92 Shropshire Slasher
We were also waging a very unpopular war. At that time the broadcast media had much more power to shape the daily news narrative. Now? Trump has this thing called tweeting that sets the narrative.
nonsense.
From electoral-vote.com 190822
Only 22% of Americans are on Twitter at all. Also, 80% of the Twitter content is created by 10% of its users. In case you donât have a calculator handy, this means that 2% of Americans create 80% of the content on Twitter. So Twitter is not representative of anything other than the 2% of the population that spends its whole day tweeting. Yet the media act like if something is trending on Twitter, then the whole country is talking about it and it is important. Nope and nope again. (V)
re: #100 Anymouse đčđ
The more money they line Trumpâs pockets with, the less money for other conservative candidates.
I just got an E-mail from a friend in Switzerland (IRL friend) urging me to come to the convention in Germany in May. He points out that Europe can handle two cornpones from the Nebraska Panhandle.
My wifeâs been thinking about this, and she is warming to the idea. Weâll likely be calling the travel agent in Oshkosh to make an appointment to plan a flight from Regina, Saskatchewan to Frankfurt now.
LGFers in Europe better hide, it looks like weâre coming soon.
dont take the scythe on the plane
re: #172 Shropshire Slasher
Trump openly commits crimes in front of a live audience, and youâre complaining about Schiff doing his job and protecting the rule of law.
Youâre going on perma-mute.
Asked what he wanted President Zelensky to do about the Bidens, âIf they were honest about it, they would start a major investigation into the Bidens.â pic.twitter.com/CZ0ikrtEdp
â Peter Alexander (@PeterAlexander) October 3, 2019
It really says a lot (none of it good) when the only criticism that could be aimed at that hearing is Schiff âcheapened the whole processâ by paraphrasing the transcript. Whatever damage was done by that was pretty well undone when he nailed Maguire to the wall for his decision to go the WH and DOJ about the complaint because he had made a personal decision that executive privilege applied even though thatâs not how the law or legal precedent works.
re: #169 jaunte
And letâs count all the GOPers who are heading for the exits before 2020 (not counting all the GOPers who are indicted, or taking plea deals - like Hunter and Collins).
The numbers are growing nearly daily. At same time, Democrats who were on the fence about impeachment are boarding the train. Why? Because the reality is that upholding the rule of law is a good thing.
Rep. Max Rose, who represents Staten Island and a district that went hard for Trump in 2016, came out in favor of impeachment. Why? Because the facts demand it.
re: #164 Anymouse đčđ
âImpeachmoot now!â
Much LOL.
As I said downstairs, I am calling the hearings now proceeding in the house the Impeachmoot. This expresses my support for them.
re: #178 lawhawk
From the tweet:
Asked what he wanted President Zelensky to do about the Bidens, âIf they were honest about it, they would start a major investigation into the Bidens.â
Donny, they already told you that if you want them to open an investigation, all you have to do is make a formal request for such. Why is this so hard?
re: #125 jaunte
You have to wonder why anyone would be so invested in the hopeless cause of pretending this president* is a net positive for the country.
because at this stage, to abandon the president is to blame yourself for creating this mess.
the cognitive dissonance would be deafening
personal responsibility my ass
re: #97 Shropshire Slasher
And you are assuming the hearings will be a net positive for the Democrats.
Yep, the more dirt that is exposed in public, the worse itâs going to get for him and his republican enablers.
re: #172 Shropshire Slasher
Schiff cheapened the whole process. Amateur.
If this is the only thing there is to criticize in the whole hearing, Iâd say theyâre doing pretty well.
In the interest of not allowing ourselves to be distracted by Repug petty talking points, I suggest we now move on. Also, donât feed the troll.
re: #140 Belafon
I believe the reasoning theyâre attempting is this:
1. Whistleblower calls Schiff out of concern (why would a whistleblower call otherwise).
2. Schiff tells the whistleblower to say that Trump did X.
3. Whistleblower says Trump did X.
(Now watch where this goes off the rails)
4. Trump says he did X.
5. Trump releases transcript saying he did X.
(Now we have to fix this)
6. Trump denies he did X.
7. Trump says transcript he released doesnât exist.
âStake Your Claimâ from âAnother Monty Python Recordâ
Game Show Host (John Cleese): Good evening and welcome to âStake Your Claimâ. First this evening we have with us Mr Norman Voles of Gravesend who claims he wrote all Shakespeareâs works. Mr Voles, I understand you claim that you wrote all those plays normally attributed to Shakespeare?
Voles (Michael Palin): That is correct. I wrote all his plays and my wife and I wrote his sonnets.
Host: Mr Voles, these plays are known to have been performed in the early 17th century. How old are you, Mr Voles?
Voles: 43.
Host: Well, how is it possible for you to have written plays performed over 300 years before you were born?
Voles: Ah well. This is where my claim falls to the ground.
Host: Ah!
Voles: Thereâs no possible way of answering that argument, Iâm afraid. I was only hoping you would not make that particular point, but I can see youâre more than a match for me!
Host: Mr Voles, thank you very much for coming along.
Voles: My pleasure.
re: #177 DangerMan
dont take the scythe on the plane
He wants me to bring my hammered dulcimer.
I will have to ask the travel agent how that works.
re: #178 lawhawk
Trump openly commits crimes in front of a live audience, and youâre complaining about Schiff doing his job and protecting the rule of law.
Youâre going on perma-mute.
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Am I missing something or is he just flat out committing crimes off the cuff and openly now?
re: #121 Shropshire Slasher
Schiffâs parody of Trumpâs phone calls to the Ukraine. That. Was. Dumb. Where is that whistleblower report anyway?
Schiff merely translated the phone call from Mafia Donese to English for those who didnât understand the implications. It was a totally honest explanation of Mango Mussoliniâs words.
re: #179 Targetpractice
It really says a lot (none of it good) when the only criticism that could be aimed at that hearing is Schiff âcheapened the whole processâ by paraphrasing the transcript. Whatever damage was done by that was pretty well undone when he nailed Maguire to the wall for his decision to go the WH and DOJ about the complaint because he had made a personal decision that executive privilege applied even though thatâs not how the law or legal precedent works.
like a judge says to every potential jury âwhat the lawyers say or how they say it is not evidenceâ
(or something like that - ianal)
By the way, the whole âimpeachment is a bad ideaâ bit would work better if the Dow wasnât shitting the bed for the third day straight.
re: #172 Shropshire Slasher
Schiff cheapened the whole process. Amateur.
âWe need something to grasp at!â
âHow about Schiff?â
âWhat he said wasnât all that baâââ
âI said: WHAT ABOUT SCHIFF?!â
re: #130 Belafon
Gotta love that quoting Trump is now the fault of the quote. But, I get it. You watching your party turn to shit in real time and itâs hard to handle.
I see another DF event on the horizon.
re: #191 Targetpractice
By the way, the whole âimpeachment is a bad ideaâ bit would work better if the Dow wasnât shitting the bed for the third day straight.
Due in no small part to Trumpâs idiotic trade war pushing manufacturing into recession. Farming is right behind them (all while Trumpâs AG Secretary Perdue tells small farmers to go fuck themselves).
re: #187 Anymouse đčđ
He wants me to bring my hammered dulcimer.
I will have to ask the travel agent how that works.
i took an autoharp on a plane a couple of years ago. domestic. as a carry on.
no - thereâs no joke in there
re: #191 Targetpractice
By the way, the whole âimpeachment is a bad ideaâ bit would work better if the Dow wasnât shitting the bed for the third day straight.
And itâs shitting the bed because Trumps idiotic Trade Wars are starting to rack up real economic damage with little end in sight.
When every day starts with âLetâs see how much 401(k) is doiâŠHOLY SHIT!,â the argument that people donât want the man gone starts to lose a bit of weight.
re: #188 b.d. (Impeach them all)
Donât stop Lawhawk, heâs on a roll.
re: #188 b.d. (Impeach them all)
Am I missing something or is he just flat out committing crimes off the cuff and openly now?
One of the things I like about Balloon Juice is they built the pie filter into the website.
re: #192 Belafon
You mean I canât pick on the pasty white guy?!
re: #205 Shropshire Slasher
You mean I canât pick on the pasty white guy?!
Passenger: THE TITANIC IS SINKING!
You: That violinist is a little flat.
re: #203 Belafon
One of the things I like about Balloon Juice is they built the pie filter into the website.
Wait, Balloon Juice has a pie filter? Why am I not on there?
re: #162 steve_davis
In fairness, I was also mystified as to why Schiff felt like he needed to paraphrase Trumpâs transcript. Just read the damned thing. Keep the tone serious. The paraphrase wasnât meant to be funny, but it smelled a bit of typical congressional grandstanding. And Schiff is way too good at examination to have to resort to that sort of thing.
I originally updinged this, because I didnât like the âparodyâ concept. But I just rechecked Schiffâs remarks (from Politifact):
âShorn of its rambling character and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the president communicates: âWeâve been very good to your country. Very good. No other country has done as much as we have. But you know what? I donât see much reciprocity here. I hear what you want. I have a favor I want from you, though. And Iâm going to say this only seven times, so you better listen good. I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand? Lots of it. On this and on that. Iâm going to put you in touch with people, not just any people. Iâm going to put you in touch with the attorney general of the United States, my attorney general Bill Barr. Heâs got the whole weight of the American law enforcement behind him. And Iâm going to put you in touch with (presidential attorney) Rudy (Giuliani). Youâre going to love him, trust me. You know what Iâm asking and so Iâm only going to say this a few more times, in a few more ways. And by the way, donât call me again. Iâll call you when youâve done what I asked.â
âThis is, in sum and character, what the president was trying to communicate with the president of Ukraine. It would be funny if it wasnât such a graphic betrayal of the Presidentâs oath of office. But as it does represent a real betrayal, thereâs nothing the president says here that is in Americaâs interest after all.â
Later in the hearing, when Rep. Mike Turner, R-Ohio, pointed out that what Schiff said did not match the readout of the call, Schiff said his summary was âmeant to be at least part in parody.â
He says, both before and after, that these arenât the actual words. My only quibble at this point is the âparodyâ remark. He should have said âmaybe the honorable gentleman from Ohio didnât hear me when I said âShorn of its rambling character and in not so many wordsâ at the beginning and âin sum and characterâ at the end.â
re: #209 garzooma
It sounded like someone from SNL wrote it.
re: #195 DangerMan
i took an autoharp on a plane a couple of years ago. domestic. as a carry on.
no - thereâs no joke in there
A dulcimer is quite a bit bigger and heavier.
It wonât hurt to ask at any rate. Considering how much it cost, buying a seat for it might be cheaper than seeing it destroyed in baggage.
If a whistleblower had come forward to say Trump had privately told Xi he should launch an investigation into the Bidens, itâd be a huge story. Thatâs what Trump just did publicly.
â Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 3, 2019
re: #212 b.d. (Impeach them all)
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He thinks itâs wrong for Congress to investigate him and even treason but itâs fine for a foreign power to investigate his opponents at his behest. He not only needs to be impeached. He needs to go on trial.
GOP 2017-2018: no collusion!
GOP 2019: itâs fine! https://t.co/uLeIJ0nZBEâ Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) October 3, 2019
re: #212 b.d. (Impeach them all)
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MAYBE IF I DO THIS STUFF IN THE OPEN THEYâLL LEAVE ME ALONEâŠ.WHAT COVER-UP!?!?!
My wife just left me.
(She walked to the Post Office to mail our bills then went to the beauty salon for a haircut.)
re: #217 Anymouse đčđ
My wife just left me.
(She walked to the Post Office to mail our bills then went to the beauty salon for a haircut.)
Itâs never the leaving thatâs the issue. Itâs always whether they will return.
re: #217 Anymouse đčđ
My wife just left me.
(She walked to the Post Office to mail our bills then went to the beauty salon for a haircut.)
So youâre saying on probation?
//
Donny just called on foreign powers to interfere in our elections on live TV.
Obviously this is only going to help him and the Repubs next November.
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re: #217 Anymouse đčđ
My wife just left me.
(She walked to the Post Office to mail our bills then went to the beauty salon for a haircut.)
Sounds fishyâŠ.whatâs a Post Office?
re: #220 Targetpractice
Donny just called on foreign powers to interfere in our elections on live TV.
Obviously this is only going to help him and the Repubs next November.
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It will if Schiff makes fun of him for doing it. ///
I go off line for an hour and Trump is trying to collude with a whole new country.
â Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 3, 2019
re: #220 Targetpractice
Donny just called on foreign powers to interfere in our elections on live TV.
And whatâs worse, called on them do so by endorsing a pre-written conspiracy-theory scenario scripted by WH-supporting hacks and RW media nutjobs.
SO very PresidentialâŠ.
re: #210 Shropshire Slasher
It sounded like someone from SNL wrote it.
The official âtranscriptâ reads like a SNL routine. It was similar to the time when a televised cabinet level meeting showed every senior official (except Mattis) demeaning themselves by lavishing over-the-top praise on the corrupt dictator wannabe that occupies the Oval office and is working assiduously to destroy our nation with the enthusiastic support of the Republican party.
What is so amazing is how all you Republicans are in love with Putin and donât care about our traditional allies. It was unsettling to see Trump tell Zelenksy at the press conference to negotiate with Putin. Trump withholding aid from Ukraine unless they comply with his extortion demands is an outrage. But then Trump is Neville Chamberlain without the underlying loyalty to his nation.
re: #95 Ace-o-aces
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Do you think the people who work at the The Intercept are ever embarrassed by Glenn?
I think Russia is paying him. Full stop.
Wow, talk about rambling, though:
Trump: China should start an investigation into the Bidens because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened in Ukraine. So I would say President Zelensky, if it was me, I would start an investigation into the Bidens.
Which country is Zelensky president of?
re: #81 MsJ
What I wouldnât give to have Warren give trump a stern âOh, grow up, youâre not five years oldâ in a debateâŠface to face.
I wouldnât do that, without expecting to be assaulted.
re: #211 Anymouse đčđ
A dulcimer is quite a bit bigger and heavier.
It wonât hurt to ask at any rate. Considering how much it cost, buying a seat for it might be cheaper than seeing it destroyed in baggage.
hammered dulcimer, you said?
if itâs gonna be in a seat, maybe it should be sober before you board
Not sure we need subpoenas or witnesses or really anything else when dumbfuck just keeps confessing and committing the same crimes over and over again in front of the cameras.
â Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) October 3, 2019
re: #218 Belafon
Itâs never the leaving thatâs the issue. Itâs always whether they will return.
She just returned. The beauty shop is closed today.
Who knows what would have happened if she got that haircut: She might have been able to disappear entirely. /s
This was the equivalent of Nixon standing on the White House lawn and announcing that heâd ordered the break-in.
re: #213 HappyWarrior
He thinks itâs wrong for Congress to investigate him and even treason but itâs fine for a foreign power to investigate his opponents at his behest. He not only needs to be impeached. He needs to go on trial.
doesnt know any of the rules (we need an outsider!*)
then when whatever it is blows up, and itâs explained to him, doesnât care
* i wouldnt mind an educated, competent âoutsiderâ
re: #109 Anymouse đčđ
My wife made her decision.
We are going to Germany.
She also wants to combine that with a rail trip across France, Spain, and Portugal.
I guess I need to make an appointment with the travel agent.
That sounds wonderful. Can I go, too? Like a 200 pound cat?
Bloomberg: âCadre, a real estate technology startup co-founded and partly owned by White House senior adviser Jared Kushner, is discussing an investment of at least $100 million from a private fund that receives much of its capital from the governments of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.â
but, but, butâŠâŠ
re: #234 retired cynic
That sounds wonderful. Can I go, too? Like a 200 pound cat?
Our Smart car only has two seats.
Unless you want to ride seven hundred miles one-way to Regina in the back on top of the engine.
Jacob Wohl claims Liz Warren had an affair with a 24-year old marine.
I hope this is untrue. With her stamina, she couldâve killed the poor man.
https://t.co/KmOrIgUQvRâ The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) October 3, 2019
re: #231 Anymouse đčđ
Wouldnât it be more prudent to leave you in Germany? Can you swim?
re: #237 Targetpractice
Now that might be my favourite tweet of the day so far.
re: #232 Targetpractice
But then he couldnât be impeached because of the cover up!
re: #237 Targetpractice
The guy has already been banned from the National Futures Association and is under indictment in California.
Now he thinks Warren having a relationship with a US Marine is a bad thing.
Methinks Wohl was dropped on his head as a child b/c his judgment is sorely impaired.â lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 3, 2019
SS must be Michael Tracey to continue posting these GOP talking points!
re: #240 Shropshire Slasher
But then he couldnât be impeached because of the cover up!
Trump obstructed justice and covered up the prior behavior, violated federal laws, etc. re: Ukraine. Because he now is engaging in entirely new crimes (re: China) in the open doesnât change the prior criminal act. Thatâs not how any of this works.
re: #239 Eclectic Cyborg
Now that might be my favourite tweet of the day so far.
âhelen mirren is jealousâ
re: #175 The Pie Overlord!
Delete your account.
Delete your LIFE. He definitely took a wrong turn somewhere in his pathetic life.
In related news, dog thinks its wrong that heâs not being consulted on his impending neutering:
GOP minority leader calls for delay on Trump impeachment until Pelosi agrees to give White House more control over process https://t.co/VmBdZdMEcM
â Raw Story (@RawStory) October 3, 2019
Wait a sec. Schiff goes a little bit on point allegorical, and catches more shit for it than the parade of lies out of the White House? NOT LISTENING to this.
Remember this?
â[N]o principle of law excludes public acts from the reach of the obstruction laws. If the likely effect of public acts is to influence witnesses or alter their testimony, the harm to the justice systemâs integrity is the sameâ (Mueller Report Vol. II, Page 7) https://t.co/kWQ3DS1Oz9â Preet Bharara (@PreetBharara) October 3, 2019
re: #211 Anymouse đčđ
A dulcimer is quite a bit bigger and heavier.
It wonât hurt to ask at any rate. Considering how much it cost, buying a seat for it might be cheaper than seeing it destroyed in baggage.
The only way to take a largish, valuable instrument to Europe is in a carbon fiber case. Light, but very strong. Colorado Cases is your first choice. Send the detes on your dulcimer and they will build it. It comes with a tough, zippered canvas case. Expensive, but a lot cheaper than a newdulcimer.
re: #238 Shropshire Slasher
Wouldnât it be more prudent to leave you in Germany? Can you swim?
It would be cheaper. A one-way ticket anyway.
Iâm not sure what Iâd do with my house here though.
re: #248 Targetpractice
In related news, dog thinks its wrong that heâs not being consulted on his impending neutering:
From the Raw Story tweet:
GOP minority leader calls for delay on Trump impeachment until Pelosi agrees to give White House more control over process
That is not how any of this works. They arenât even grasping for straws; those are already gone and theyâre grasping for grass blades now.
re: #210 Shropshire Slasher
It sounded like someone from SNL wrote it.
It sounded like rhetoric. If you donât like it, take it up with Aristotle.
re: #248 Targetpractice
In related news, dog thinks its wrong that heâs not being consulted on his impending neutering:
Bank robber wants control of the criminal investigation.
I love the smell of desperation in the morning.
re: #256 Anymouse đčđ
Admitted bank robber.
re: #254 Anymouse đčđ
From the Raw Story tweet:
GOP minority leader calls for delay on Trump impeachment until Pelosi agrees to give White House more control over process
That is not how any of this works. They arenât even grasping for straws; those are already gone and theyâre grasping for grass blades now.
Two words: Merrick Garland
Two More words and itâs not âhappy birthdayâ
re: #254 Anymouse đčđ
From the Raw Story tweet:
GOP minority leader calls for delay on Trump impeachment until Pelosi agrees to give White House more control over process
That is not how any of this works. They arenât even grasping for straws; those are already gone and theyâre grasping for grass blades now.
I should have quoted their demanâŠer, their ârequestsâ:
McCarthy asked the Democratic majority to put each subpoena request before a full committee vote, give ranking committee chairs subpoena power, and allow the presidentâs counsel to take part in all depositions, cross-examine and recommend witnesses, and present or object to evidence.
Translation: âWe want the power to turn this inquiry into a three-ring circus!â
Even Saddam Hussein never had polls this good.
â Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 3, 2019
re: #261 b.d. (Impeach them all)
Even Saddam Hussein never had polls this good.
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Lol. Heâs really really getting even more pathetic.
re: #260 Targetpractice
I should have quoted their demanâŠer, their ârequestsâ:
Translation: âWe want the power to turn this inquiry into a three-ring circus!â
They get to do everything they requested in a Senate trial, if impeachment charges are referred.
The defence doesnât get to cross-examine witnesses or call experts if a prosecutor hasnât brought a case. If they want to argue this should run like a trial rather than an impeachment, thatâs how it works.
They really want to go down with the Trumptanic, donât they? The smart cowards already left Congress.
re: #248 Targetpractice
GOP minority leader calls for delay on Trump impeachment until Pelosi agrees to give White House more control over process https://t.co/VmBdZdMEcM
â Raw Story (@RawStory) October 3, 2019
youâre in the minority. thatâs not how any of this works.
try the opposite: mitch, please bring every bill you get from the house up for a vote
re: #263 Anymouse đčđ
They get to do everything they requested in a Senate trial, if impeachment charges are referred.
The defence doesnât get to cross-examine witnesses or call experts if a prosecutor hasnât brought a case. If they want to argue this should run like a trial rather than an impeachment, thatâs how it works.
They really want to go down with the Trumptanic, donât they? The smart cowards already left Congress.
The whole purpose of these requests seems pretty clear: The Repubs are losing the messaging war and need to find some way to drag it back to being about Biden. So they want to subpoena âwitnessesâ and introduce âevidenceâ that has nothing to do with the crimes being investigated and everything to do with presenting the impeachment as a âcover-up.â
re: #249 Rightwingconspirator
Wait a sec. Schiff goes a little bit on point allegorical, and catches more shit for it than the parade of lies out of the White House? NOT LISTENING to this.
add to that, he says itâs âallegoricalâ both before and after
re: #266 DangerMan
add to that, he says itâs âallegoricalâ both before and after
If he was a real man, he would have just said it without qualifications, declared it the truth, and then bullied his way into making it the truth. Thatâs the GOP way after all.
re: #262 HappyWarrior
Lol. Heâs really really getting even more pathetic.
The intended audience for that tweet are Senate and House Republicans that may be wavering. âThe base still loves me, turn on me and your done.â
re: #254 Anymouse đčđ
From the Raw Story tweet:
GOP minority leader calls for delay on Trump impeachment until Pelosi agrees to give White House more control over process
That is not how any of this works. They arenât even grasping for straws; those are already gone and theyâre grasping for grass blades now.
And theyâll be down to clawing at the dirt before you know itâŠ
IIJM, or does it seem to anyone else that the House Republicans have basically given up by ceding their Leadership to the gang of buffoons exemplified by Kevin McCarthy, Devin Nunes, Jim Jordan, Mark Meadows, et. al.? I mean, theyâre not in a really good position as the Minority and all, but one would think theyâd want to at least look like theyâre doing their jobs responsibly.
Saboteur detected! Exterminate! Exterminate! Exterminate!
Doctor Who slammed as âsci-fi garbageâ by former BBC boss who says Star Wars is better
Ex-BBC One controller Michael Grade has opened up about his decision to postpone Doctor Who in 1985, and slammed the show as âscience fiction garbageâ. Grade first took the job in 1984, and less than a year later he had binned one of the channelâs most iconic shows and spent its budget elsewhere.
Speaking to the Evening Standard, the former boss stood by his decision to axe the long-running Saturday night staple. Former BBC One controller Michael Grade slammed Doctor Who, which he axed in 1985 (Picture: Getty) âI hated Doctor Who,â he said. âI said to the producer, âHave you ever seen Star Wars or ET?â He said yes. I said âwell Iâve got news for you, so have our audience.â What we were serving up as science fiction was garbage.â
Trumps base may be lined up behind him but theyâre an increasingly a bigger minority than they were. The country is at a different place on impeachment than it was on the first day of Summer let alone Labor Day. Trump is hanging himself with his own rope.
re: #268 danarchy
The intended audience for that tweet are Senate and House Republicans that may be wavering. âThe base still loves me, turn on me and your done.â
Yeah but come on, thatâs the crazy of crazy.
Our normal brexit in the know people are asleep.
Not sure if posted.
E.U. rejects new British Brexit proposal, raising prospect of chaotic break within weeks https://t.co/xePTFqIo17
â Post World (@PostWorldNews) October 3, 2019
Imagine Clinton, in the midst of his impeachment, standing in front of reporters on the South Lawn and asking Lewinsky to meet him later for a date.
â ryan teague beckwith (@ryanbeckwith) October 3, 2019
If Obama were RTing Kos or HuffPost unscientific polls, heâd rightfully get laughed at. RTing Breitbart sucking him off is nucking guts.
Heâs asking a brutal, communist regime to investigate his fellow Americans.
Donald Trump is the most disloyal, un-American President weâve ever had. https://t.co/G9UxbzprCzâ Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) October 3, 2019
Donât need anymore evidence. Heâs given you all you need. Impeach him now.
â Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) October 3, 2019
re: #270 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Saboteur detected! Exterminate! Exterminate! Exterminate!
Doctor Who slammed as âsci-fi garbageâ by former BBC boss who says Star Wars is better
Iâve seen a lot of agreement that Star Trek killed off the original Doctor Who for that reason. It was hard to justify the stage acting production quality of the shows when Star Trek was doing its special effects every episode.
re: #276 Scottish Dragon
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Are we sure that Joe Walshâs mirror universe double didnât just kill him and take his place?
WTFITS
President @realDonaldTrump is wheels up for Florida! pic.twitter.com/gJACdaArnb
â The White House (@WhiteHouse) October 3, 2019
I had lunch with a Trumpster friend yesterday; we donât discuss Trump but we did have a discussion about corruption (the Chris Collins case) and he did make the fair point that both sides do engage in these financial irregularities. But it is clear that every member of the contemporary GOP and their supporters are loyal only to their party and their dear leader, not to this nation or the best of its heritage. They like the idea of foreign interference in the election if it guarantees their victories.
I am 100% confident that every Trumpster* would have supported Hitler until he started losing the war (*If Hitlerâs target were a different group â such as Muslims â so would Jewish Trumpsters). Their enthusiasm for his treatment of immigrants, his racism, his affinity for dictators, and his vitriol toward anyone who fails to worship him demonstrates daily their lack of commitment to democracy and their desire to be ruled by a âstrong manâ.
re: #268 danarchy
The intended audience for that tweet are Senate and House Republicans that may be wavering. âThe base still loves me, turn on me and your done.â
That may be the message, but I really doubt whether âSenate and House Republicansâ are going to credit a 62-1 joke poll from Breitbart as being a particularly authoritative endorsement of said view.
re: #284 Scottish Dragon
Every weekend is a four day weekend now.
Every hour is a Friday news dump.
Iâm off to bed; itâs way past my bedtime.
Gâday, yâall.
re: #283 Jay C
That may be the message, but I really doubt whether âSenate and House Republicansâ are going to credit a 62-1 joke poll from Breitbart as being a particularly authoritative endorsement of said view.
Exactly. Iâm sorry but this is just absurdity on display. Yes we know a majority of Republican base voters support him but this is delusion and thatâs charitable.
Someone should inform the president that impeachable offenses committed on national television still count. https://t.co/ABObD2Ie4S
â Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 3, 2019
re: #284 Scottish Dragon
Every weekend is a four day weekend now.
Whatâs with the âTwo Steps From Hellâ background music? Thatâs really over the top for a golf vacation.
re: #288 The Pie Overlord!
Whatâs with the âTwo Steps From Hellâ background music? Thatâs really over the top for a golf vacation.
Needs to feel cinematic I guess.
re: #282 Hecubaâs daughter
I had lunch with a Trumpster friend yesterday; we donât discuss Trump but we did have a discussion about corruption (the Chris Collins case) and he did make the fair point that both sides do engage in these financial irregularities. But it is clear that every member of the contemporary GOP and their supporters are loyal only to their party and their dear leader, not to this nation or the best of its heritage. They like the idea of foreign interference in the election if it guarantees their victories.
I am 100% confident that every Trumpster* would have supported Hitler until he started losing the war (*If Hitlerâs target were a different group â such as Muslims â so would Jewish Trumpsters). Their enthusiasm for his treatment of immigrants, his racism, his affinity for dictators, and his vitriol toward anyone who fails to worship him demonstrates daily their lack of commitment to democracy and their desire to be ruled by a âstrong manâ.
âŠas long as its their strong man
on a side note, i put chris collins in a different category than Duncan hunter or even trump
hunter and trump committed political crimes, they are politically corrupt.
if i understand it, collins committed run of the mill insider trading, unrelated to his office.
re: #287 lawhawk
heâs trying to normalize the criminality*
Someone should inform the president that impeachable offenses committed on national television still count. https://t.co/ABObD2Ie4S
â Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) October 3, 2019
* i assume thatâs what hes trying to do
if thatâs not his plan and heâs just winging it, then heâs just nuts
Yes. In broad daylight.
â Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) October 3, 2019
re: #290 DangerMan
âŠas long as its their strong man
on a side note, i put chris collins in a different category than Duncan hunter or even trump
hunter and trump committed political crimes, they are politically corrupt.
if i understand it, collins committed run of the mill insider trading, unrelated to his office.
Trump has committed financial crimes his entire life and got away with them. He is continuing and expanding this practice since he took office
re: #291 DangerMan
heâs trying to normalize the criminality*
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* i assume thatâs what hes trying to do
if thatâs not his plan and heâs just winging it, then heâs just nuts
He is forcing it in our faces. He wants to be caught, and have us realize that we are catching him breaking laws and we canât make him stop.
re: #280 The Pie Overlord!
WTFITS
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Heâs off to The Villages to sign some kind of Medicare executive order.
Sucking up to the old white farts with some meaningless bulkshit
re: #290 DangerMan
âŠas long as its their strong man
on a side note, i put chris collins in a different category than Duncan hunter or even trump
hunter and trump committed political crimes, they are politically corrupt.
if i understand it, collins committed run of the mill insider trading, unrelated to his office.
And remember Collins was the first House member to support Trump. Birds of a feather ..
re: #294 Scottish Dragon
I kind of view it as Go Ahead and Stop Me, I Dare You really. And no one has, so it continues. If we as a nation do not make some new damned laws to prevent this shit again we deserve to become a mess.
lol, for the love of God.
I would not have thought that I needed to say this. pic.twitter.com/T743CsXq79
â Ellen L Weintraub (@EllenLWeintraub) June 13, 2019
re: #293 Hecubaâs daughter
Trump has committed financial crimes his entire life and got away with them. He is continuing and expanding this practice since he took office
oh i dont disagree with that at all
since last week with the ukraine call and yesterday and today, iâve just about walled off everything pre- presidency for a while. iâve also walled off emoluments, mueller / obstruction, and 10000 other things. as he continues to re-light himself on fire, this is enough to maybe get him out. more than enough to delegitimize the entire administration and the R party.
his previous life will catch up with him as soon as heâs out
re: #292 gocart mozart
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He seems to think that if he commits crimes continually, yâall will never be able to get the documents typed.
â Almasian Michael (@AlmasianMichael) October 3, 2019
re: #298 b.d. (Impeach them all)
lol, for the love of God.
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follow up:
Is this thing on? đ https://t.co/K6phZRex8k
â Ellen L Weintraub (@EllenLWeintraub) October 3, 2019
re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth
Heâs off to The Villages to sign some kind of Medicare executive order.
Sucking up to the old white farts with some meaningless bulkshit
All while his actual budget proposal calls for still more Medicare cuts. Heâs lying his ass off to everyone as always.
The Presidentâs budget cuts Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security by over $1 trillion. https://t.co/nps9TvVD3J
â Jon Favreau (@jonfavs) September 29, 2019
re: #270 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Thatâs funny because I fell unapologetically in love with Dr. Who in 1985. Tom Baker will always be my favorite. Molded me.
re: #297 A Mom Anon
I kind of view it as Go Ahead and Stop Me, I Dare You really. And no one has, so it continues. If we as a nation do not make some new damned laws to prevent this shit again we deserve to become a mess.
Unfortunately, as long as Republicans remain in charge of the WH and the Senate, we have no way to pass meaningful legislation. And one of the fatal flaws in our Constitution contributes to the possible demise of our nation: The way the Senate is established with the possibility of 52 senators of one party representing less than 20% of the population (and theoretically only 10% of the voters) may doom us.
re: #302 lawhawk
All while his actual budget proposal calls for still more Medicare cuts. Heâs lying his ass off to everyone as always.
@ChrisMegerian
The presidentâs schedule for Thursday includes this event â âTHE PRESIDENT delivers remarks and signs an Executive Order Protecting Medicare from Socialist Destruction in The Villages, FLâ[Embedded content]
well to be fair, the president isnt a socialist.
heâs gutting SS and medicare by $1T as a non-socialist
re: #303 Shropshire Slasher
Thatâs funny because I fell unapologetically in love with Dr. Who in 1985. Tom Baker will always be my favorite. Molded me.
Tom Baker left in 1981 â the following doctors of the original series did not have the same level of charisma as Baker.
heard on TV: âright now weâll double your order, just pay a separate feeâ
advertising works - thats why they keep doing it
these people believe this stuff
and they make voting decisions because âright now, you can buy two. just pay for two!â
re: #297 A Mom Anon
I kind of view it as Go Ahead and Stop Me, I Dare You really. And no one has, so it continues. If we as a nation do not make some new damned laws to prevent this shit again we deserve to become a mess.
The one law Democrats could pass that would have an impact on the White House no matter whoâs in charge afterwards would be to make it explicit that a sitting president can be indicted.
re: #66 Shropshire Slasher
But what he is polling at is far to high to try to impeach him.
You couldnât be more ahistorical and wrong:
But that was just the beginning of the toll the scandal would take on the president that year. The televised Watergate hearings that began in May 1973, chaired by Sen. Samuel Ervin, commanded a large national audience - 71% told Gallup they watched the hearings live. And as many as 21% reported watching 10 hours or more of the Ervin proceedings. Not too surprisingly, Nixonâs popularity took a severe hit. His ratings fell as low as 31%, in Gallupâs early August survey.
The public had changed its view of the scandal. A 53% majority came to the view that Watergate was a serious matter, not just politics, up from 31% who believed that before the hearings. Indeed, an overwhelming percentage of the public (71%) had come to see Nixon as culpable in the wrongdoing, at least to some extent. About four-in-ten (37%) thought he found out about the bugging and tried to cover it up; 29% went further in saying that he knew about the bugging beforehand, but did not plan it; and 8% went all the way, saying he planned it from beginning to end. Only 15% of Americans thought that the president had no prior knowledge and spoke up as soon as he learned of it.
Yet, despite the increasingly negative views of Nixon at that time, most Americans continued to reject the notion that Nixon should leave office, according to Gallup. Just 26% thought he should be impeached and forced to resign, while 61% did not.
A lot of key scandal events were to follow that year and into 1974, but public opinion about Watergate was slow to change further, despite the high drama of what was taking place. For example, October 1973 was a crucial month as the courts ruled that the president had to turn over his taped conversations to special prosecutor Archibald Cox, and subsequently Nixon ordered for the dismissal of Cox in what came to be known as the Saturday Night Massacre. The public reacted, but in a measured way. In November, Gallup showed the percentage of Americans thinking that the president should leave office jumping from 19% in June to 38%, but still, 51% did not support impeachment and an end to Nixonâs presidency.
Last time you showed up you asserted that surviving impeachment is what gave Clinton a second term, even though he wasnât impeached until his second term. Youâre just always fucking wrong.
re: #294 Scottish Dragon
He is forcing it in our faces. He wants to be caught, and have us realize that we are catching him breaking laws and we canât make him stop.
Please stop casting this in terms of strategy, there is none. Heâs a blind, cornered, wounded animal just lashing out, incapable of admitting error or retreating from a position once heâs taken it. All he knows is how to double down on attacking what he fears.
re: #309 goddamnedfrank
Itâs Slasher. Heâs just trying to provoke us.
re: #309 goddamnedfrank
Yes, my memory was completely wrong. I had to go back and read some of the dates that what happened when. I had it confused with the fact that a major news publisher sat on the Lewinsky affair until after the election. Itâs where Drudge became a household name.
This made me chuckle:
How They expect you to React When You get an Amber Alert đđđ pic.twitter.com/HO0AGTHB2k
â Mark Phillips (@SupremeDreams_1) October 2, 2019
re: #310 goddamnedfrank
Please stop casting this in terms of strategy, there is none. Heâs a blind, cornered, wounded animal just lashing out, incapable of admitting error or retreating from a position once heâs taken it. All he knows is how to double down on attacking what he fears.
No, I do think it is a strategy of a sort. He has always been a sadist and he likes shoving this sort of thing into other peopleâs facesâŠlike his affairs being on NY tabloids etc. Also, it is a hallmark of authoritarianism to flaunt power over the impotence of the people and remind them of their place.
re: #311 Eclectic Cyborg
Iâve been following politics my entire adult life, and I disagree with most of you here.
I love it when people are flat out fucking wrong and then try to save a little face by trying to tell you some barely even trivia that you goddamn lived through.
re: #317 goddamnedfrank
There their theyâre
re: #310 goddamnedfrank
Please stop casting this in terms of strategy, there is none. Heâs a blind, cornered, wounded animal just lashing out, incapable of admitting error or retreating from a position once heâs taken it. All he knows is how to double down on attacking what he fears.
He has learned throughout his life that blustering, lying, and proclaiming he is infallible is a winning strategy. Why switch when this has always worked in the past? His supporters are zombies incapable of independent thought. He is appealing to them and not the rest of us. And the entire GOP delegation in Washington either is directly owned by Putin or zombified â not a single member with courage or decency. The only one to stand up for truth (well â at least one time) had to leave the party. There is no room for dissent.
re: #309 goddamnedfrank
You couldnât be more ahistorical and wrong:
Last time you showed up you asserted that surviving impeachment is what gave Clinton a second term, even though he wasnât impeached until his second term. Youâre just always fucking wrong.
Actually, I think SS MAY have about half a point. Yes, Trumpâs polling is (relatively) high for a President facing impeachment hearings. For now. However:
1. Polling for âimpeachmentâ and âremovalâ (an important distinction) averages about 47% in favor. Not a good starting place, if youâre the target.
2. Serious hearings in the House havenât even started yet.
3. So far, the Presidentâs and his croniesâ defenses/rebuttals against the corruption charges have been mainly hysterical insults, inarticulate blathering and conspiracy-theory babblement. And that approach doesnât seem likely to change.
So all in all, not a rosy prospect for Mango Mussolini - though of course, the final determination of his fate will rest on political, not legal grounds. As it always has.
re: #317 goddamnedfrank
I love it when people are flat out fucking wrong and then try to save a little face by trying to tell you some barely even trivia that you goddamned lived through.
Misdirection playâŠ. refuge of the lost souls, scoundrels, and Trumpâs go-to move when cornered.
re: #316 Shropshire Slasher
Iâve been following politics my entire adult life, and I disagree with most of you here.
The problem isnât that you disagree with most of us. The problem is that youâre a goddamned fucking idiot about it.
re: #313 Flying Squirrel Girl
This made me chuckle:
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They even had a drone!
People are hilarious.
Mets fire manager Mickey Callaway after 2 seasons. That was the slow-moving train wreck we all expected would have occurred at the All Star Break.
It was. https://t.co/eNij7zFCdq
â Joe Scarborough (@JoeNBC) October 3, 2019
If your point of view just magically seems to go hand in glove with you constantly getting basic facts wrong, maybe reexamine the fucking point of view.
re: #322 goddamnedfrank
If you need to insult other people to feel better about yourself, I understand. I have broad shoulders, I can take it.
re: #316 Shropshire Slasher
Iâve been following politics my entire adult life, and I disagree with most of you here.
OK. So?
re: #329 Scottish Dragon
Donât sit in a bubble.
re: #322 goddamnedfrank
The problem isnât that you disagree with most of us. The problem is that youâre a goddamned fucking idiot about it.
Got a LOL IRL outta me on that one.
re: #314 Scottish Dragon
No, I do think it is a strategy of a sort. He has always been a sadist and he likes shoving this sort of thing into other peopleâs facesâŠlike his affairs being on NY tabloids etc. Also, it is a hallmark of authoritarianism to flaunt power over the impotence of the people and remind them of their place.
Trumpâs Every Move Is Brilliant and Calculated
Alexandra Petri: âFor the last time, this is all part of the plan. Getting himself impeached is actually a strategic triumph for President Trump, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just not playing chess in enough dimensions. Consider what is the greater mark of strategic genius: to mire yourself and your administration in an endless series of idiotic and pointless controversies, often rife with misspellings, damaging your standing at home and abroad, or to NOT do that? If you say the second, you are a fool. This is all part of the plan. Actually, this is good. Actually, this is great.â
âI repeat, every move that Trump makes, has made or is making, currently, with the president of Finland sitting helplessly by his side, wearing an expression of alarm, is planned. It is a genius plan. It might look like the random, haphazard flailing of a cat that has gotten its head stuck in a bucket. But actually he is in total control.â
(yes, itâs satire)
re: #330 Shropshire Slasher
Donât sit in a bubble.
Oh fer gawds sake drop the martyrdom schtick, my dude. Disagreement is all over here at LGF, but we do expect your POV to be buttressed in a reasonable way and documented if you are making a fact claim.
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re: #316 Shropshire Slasher
Iâve been following politics my entire adult life, and I disagree with most of you here.
You know what I like to do when I encounter a website where I disagree with most of the people on it?
Stop visiting it.
re: #332 DangerMan
Trumpâs Every Move Is Brilliant and Calculated
(yes, itâs satire)
Petridishes is always funny.
Yes, I think it is his strategy because doubling down is ALWAYS his strategy and it has (nearly) always worked before. Just that this time, he is admitting to actual crimes on TV in real time.
re: #333 Scottish Dragon
Oh fer gawds sake drop the martyrdom schtick, my dude. Disagreement is all over here at LGF, but we do expect your POV to be buttressed in a reasonable way and documented if you are making a fact claim.
And fuck the NYPost & the Daily Mail.
Geeze.
re: #335 Mattand
I donât care to dissuade visitors who are not being trolls. I do want better arguments from them, though.
re: #316 Shropshire Slasher
Iâve been following politics my entire adult life, and I disagree with most of you here.
So has Bill Kristol, and youâre making him look like fucking Thomas Jefferson right now.
re: #316 Shropshire Slasher
Iâve been following politics my entire adult life, and I disagree with most of you here.
disagreement is fine
- be reasonably accurate
- support your positions
- clearly indicate opinion
- donât throw one-liner, irrelevant bombs and expect any kind of praise
re: #330 Shropshire Slasher
We have plenty of needles to poke at your bubbleâŠ
Interesting point.
The U.S. justice system hasnât yet been corrupted enough to investigate Trumpâs political enemies at his request, so heâs turning to a proper authoritarian regime to do the job. Outsourcing jobs Americans wonât do, you might say.
â Julian Sanchez (@normative) October 3, 2019
re: #338 Scottish Dragon
I donât care to dissuade visitors who are not being trolls. I do want better arguments from them, though.
Get what youâre saying, but I kinda question SSâs sincerity.
Life comes at you fast:
WATCH: House Republicans end impromptu press conference after learning of Trumpâs latest Biden rant https://t.co/y3Q3DSmgSI
â Raw Story (@RawStory) October 3, 2019
re: #341 Joe Bacon đč
We have plenty of needles to poke at your bubbleâŠ
A whole Hapsburg tertio of needles!
re: #342 Scottish Dragon
One of the useful bits of our system when it comes to fighting against corruption is that itâs typically pretty diffuse in nature, especially the DOJ. US Attorneys, especially on the criminal side, tend to work fairly independent of the main DOJ in part because most crimes tend to be local. But the same thing is true for most agencies, the WH and Cabinet heads might hand down policy but itâs typically left to the career types to actually carry out that policy. Thatâs why you rarely see claims of widespread corruption - if thereâs a problem, itâs usually isolated.
re: #344 Targetpractice
Life comes at you fast:
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Gym Jordan in a verbal half NelsonâŠ.
re: #338 Scottish Dragon
I donât care to dissuade visitors who are not being trolls. I do want better arguments from them, though.
more m. python:
Man: I came here for a good argument.
Mr. Vibrating: No you didnât; no, you came here for an argument.
re: #316 Shropshire Slasher
Iâve been following politics my entire adult life, and I disagree with most of you here.
Doesnât make you special, but thanks.
re: #335 Mattand
Then how do I learn if I donât hear both sides of the story?
re: #348 DangerMan
more m. python:
Man: I came here for a good argument.
Mr. Vibrating: No you didnât; no, you came here for an argument.
You didnât come here to be insulted?
re: #351 Scottish Dragon
You didnât come here to be insulted?
Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.
re: #350 Shropshire Slasher
Then how do I learn if I donât hear both sides of the story?
Bothsides fallacy. Sometimes there are two sides, and sometimes not.
How you weight your evidence is up to you. Iâm not sure what you are getting at here, though.
re: #350 Shropshire Slasher
Then how do I learn if I donât hear both sides of the story?
Hearing both sides of the story is only useful if both sides are generally honest. Hearing both sides is meaningless if one side is objectively bullshitting their way through everything.
You donât need to hear from the kids that tracked mud in the house telling you it was the dog when the dog doesnât wear shoes the same size as the kids.
most stories donât have two (both) sides
crackpot
done
Unauthorized medical testing violates international human rights law. Once again, IT IS LEGAL TO SEEK ASYLUM. Under this new policy everyone who crosses the border & gets detained, including children, will be entered into an FBI national criminal database. https://t.co/LUpYfeGq1P
â RAICES (@RAICESTEXAS) October 2, 2019
re: #353 DangerMan
Ah yes, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.
YOU MORON! Itâs room A12! Room 12A is where we get the Soros backed bitcoin payments!
//
re: #355 KGxvi
Hearing both sides of the story is only useful if both sides are generally honest. Hearing both sides is meaningless if one side is objectively bullshitting their way through everything.
You donât need to hear from the kids that tracked mud in the house telling you it was the dog when the dog doesnât wear shoes the same size as the kids.
um, erm, whassup in your house?
moron
95% Approval Rating in the Republican Party, and record setting fundraising that has taken place over the past two weeks. Thank you!
â Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 3, 2019
re: #336 Scottish Dragon
Petridishes is always funny.
Yes, I think it is his strategy because doubling down is ALWAYS his strategy and it has (nearly) always worked before. Just that this time, he is admitting to actual crimes on TV in real time.
And thatâs why heâs asking for outside help, because not enough people here will just defer to him. And people do need to realize how far he is willing to go if heâs unchecked. He will sacrifice your sons and daughters if he has to.
re: #358 KGxvi
YOU MORON! Itâs room A12! Room 12A is where we get the Soros backed bitcoin payments!
//
Ah.
i think we might have drifted off the scriptâŠ
re: #359 DangerMan
um, erm, whassup in your house?
When it gets very hot, you might need shoes for your dog so they donât burn their foot pads.
re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth
Heâs got 95% support among 35% of the population⊠definitely want to brag about that.
re: #350 Shropshire Slasher
Then how do I learn if I donât hear both sides of the story?
Please. Your mind was made up before you started posting. Stop with the JAQing off.
re: #367 Scottish Dragon
Iâm not dead yetâŠ
Tis but a scratch
ps - googling âpython argumentâ took me to a whole ânother place ;-)
re: #368 DangerMan
Tis but a scratch
ps - googling âpython argumentâ took me to a whole ânother place ;-)
LOL. Let me guess: Either muscleheads trying to see whose arms are biggest or a technobabble filled hellhole.
re: #350 Shropshire Slasher
Helpful hint!
19th Century Fox ainât telling the truth about anything!
re: #369 Eclectic Cyborg
LOL. Let me guess: Either muscleheads trying to see whose arms are biggest or a technobabble filled hellhole.
Probably something about how to check for types of parameters.
re: #368 DangerMan
Tis but a scratch
ps - googling âpython argumentâ took me to a whole ânother place ;-)
Itâs spelled âpython argumentâ, but itâs pronounced âThroat Warbler Mangroveâ.
re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth
moron
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re: #372 Mattand
Itâs spelled âpython argumentâ, but itâs pronounced âThroat Warbler Mangroveâ.
Next to the Ministry of Silly Walks.
re: #330 Shropshire Slasher
Donât sit in a bubble.
Iâm curious. When you are MAGAing, what are the times in our history that we were great? And did you want us to return to that time period?
New: The ACLU has filed a class action seeking damages for families separated at the US-Mexico border https://t.co/zp3JYBIxSx
âAlthough separated families can never be made whole, justice requires redress for their suffering.â pic.twitter.com/oyrqDRuNohâ Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) October 3, 2019
BREAKING: Manhattan D.A. Vance comes out swinging against @TheJusticeDept for having âelected to insert itselfâ in this litigation, calling the bid âaudaciousâ in a 3-page letter. cc: @CourthouseNews
Doc: https://t.co/nHCC8acq74 pic.twitter.com/Vr93OurlFzâ Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) October 3, 2019
LOL
Leader McCarthy, we look forward to you soon becoming Speaker of the House. The Do Nothing Dems donât have a chance! https://t.co/uWPdGJg99F
â Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 3, 2019
At this point, not believing Trump âcolludedâ with Russia in some substantive manner in 2016 is like being a wife of a pro sports star who decides 1st allegation of infidelity was not proven who then doesnât revisit that when their spouse openly admits to an immediate 2nd episode https://t.co/x7PgUXwbdH
â John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) October 3, 2019
re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth
Adam Klasfeld
â
@KlasfeldReports
BREAKING: Manhattan D.A. Vance comes out swinging against @TheJusticeDept for having âelected to insert itselfâ in this litigation, calling the bid âaudaciousâ in a 3-page letter. cc: @CourthouseNewsDoc: documentcloud.org âŠ
Recall that the Hitler judiciary and legal system did everything by the book because they corrupted the entire system. Barr and the GOP are working on that now. Not a single member of the GOP in the administration or in Congress has shown themselves to be honest.
The White House has been DMCAâd pic.twitter.com/U1l867Tioo
â Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) October 3, 2019
Iâm still optimistic weâll see those fucking tax returns someday.
Like the Beatles said: Itâs getting better all the time. Thanks, babe, for 27 amazing years! pic.twitter.com/mImRqIYn1R
â Barack Obama (@BarackObama) October 3, 2019
Iâve never really understood this âlook at all the money we gotâ bit as some sort of political virtue.
I mean, if fundraising is a measure of fitness for office, weâd have a mob boss for presiâŠ
Never mind. https://t.co/qH2iPAMkIiâ Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 3, 2019
GOP leader wants to stop impeachment unless he gets power GOP stripped from Democrats https://t.co/NarTlzx15A
â Oliver Willis (@owillis) October 3, 2019
Poor little crooked donnie. Getting triggered every day on twitter will just provide further proof to future generations that his whole house of cards collapsed much quicker than anyone expected. Let us hold a minute of silence to mourn his administration. NOT!
re: #386 Targetpractice
Sucks, when the tables get turned on you doesnât it, Kevin?
re: #386 Targetpractice
Iâm waiting for McCarthy to say âJust because we did it doesnât make it right.â
re: #388 Eclectic Cyborg
Sucks, when the tables get turned on you doesnât it, Kevin?
Comity exists for a reason in politics. But the GOP has gone for zero sum winner take all bulkshit, and trampling over the rule of law in the process. They donât get to change the rules to give them power that they themselves stripped from Democrats when the roles were reversed. Theyâre hypocrites all the way down.
re: #369 Eclectic Cyborg
LOL. Let me guess: Either muscleheads trying to see whose arms are biggest or a technobabble filled hellhole.
Whoâs going to be the first Republican to demand an inquiry into the identity of the cameramen who recorded Trump this morning?
â Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) October 3, 2019
re: #386 Targetpractice
From the article:
Republicans changed the rule to give several committee chairs the unilateral authority to issue subpoenas without minority input or consent.
McCarthy, who was House majority leader at the time, encouraged his fellow Republicans to use this rule change to ram through subpoenas to the Obama White House without interference from Democrats.
Thatâs the sort of shit you do when you believe in your permanent majority bullshit (which I remember Hugh Hewitt first spouting back when I was in law school a decade and a half ago now). This is just one of those reminders that you donât weaken the minority because one day, usually sooner than you think, youâre going to be in the minority.
Thereâs some serious projection like IMAX going on in Trumpworld.
All of Trumpâs crimes are projected on Trumpâs enemies and rivals, regardless of the facts.
Trump is actively profiting from his position. Pence ignores indisputable facts (which is why heâs still VP).â lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 3, 2019
re: #388 Eclectic Cyborg
Sucks, when the tables get turned on you doesnât it, Kevin?
we never thought weâd be in the minorityâŠ.
SCOOP: CNN is refusing to air the Trump campaign ad pushing the Biden-Ukraine claims. https://t.co/M71xh2CXso
Via @AndrewKirellâ Sam Stein (@samstein) October 3, 2019
re: #393 KGxvi
From the article:
Thatâs the sort of shit you do when you believe in your permanent majority bullshit (which I remember Hugh Hewitt first spouting back when I was in law school a decade and a half ago now). This is just one of those reminders that you donât weaken the minority because one day, usually sooner than you think, youâre going to be in the minority.
thatâs why mcconnell wrote that asinine filibuster op-ed back in augustâŠjust in case
re: #390 lawhawk
Comity exists for a reason in politics. But the GOP has gone for zero sum winner take all bulkshit, and trampling over the rule of law in the process. They donât get to change the rules to give them power that they themselves stripped from Democrats when the roles were reversed. Theyâre hypocrites all the way down.
I started listening to Limbaugh shortly after 9/11, listened fairly consistently for about 5 years or so. One of the things I remember him always bitching about is how âcompromise means the liberals get whatever they want and we go along with itâ and then saying that since the GOP had the majority âcompromiseâ should work the other way. I think that was the start of the zero sum game they play today. And zero sum makes sense if your answer to everything is ânoâ or âfuck you, I got mine.â
Fall was in the air todayâŠRaymond Fall from maintenance. Fell from a cherry picker at the top of a Boeing 777. Tragic.
â DeirdređșđžđŽó §ó ąó łó Łó Žó ż (@Celticlassy10) October 3, 2019
re: #394 lawhawk
then âthe american peopleâ should be asking the FBIâŠ
Moments ago, Vice President Mike Pence defended President Trump pressing Ukraineâs Zelensky to investigate the Bidens. âThe American people have a right to know if the vice president of the United States, or his family, profited from his position.â
â Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) October 3, 2019
A source passes this along from the Library of Congress cafeteria, where the food service folks appear to have some strong views about current events. pic.twitter.com/bSBzJfhGsm
â Ken Dilanian (@KenDilanianNBC) October 3, 2019
re: #400 DangerMan
âThe American people have a right to know if the vice president of the United States, or his family, profited from his position.â
Given who you work for, Mike⊠that seems like a less than ideal defense.
CNN is refusing to air Trumpâs ad on Biden, because it contains demonstrably false claims
But Facebook is running it
Facebook tells me itâs policy is to run political ads even if they contain lies https://t.co/4aTevXJIwr pic.twitter.com/Zu9SofhwDmâ Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) October 3, 2019
No one wants to kiss you at your kissing booth. #SignsYoureNotVeryPopular pic.twitter.com/1G2llYSNmC
â âMad Catâ Cattis (@GeneralCattis) October 3, 2019
Iâm beginning to think we need to find ways to decouple the offices of the president and vice-president.
For one, Iâm not sure it makes sense to consider the VP part of the executive branch, since most of the officeâs constitutional duties are actually legislative in nature.
Part of me feels like it would be better to actually vote for the offices separately (how that would effect the actual electoral vote is another question, but most states bind their electors to the popular will anyway).
From the Daily Beast today:
More conspiracy theories will take hold as Trump fights for his political life. âWhether or not the narrative is true almost doesnât matter anymore,â says Stan. âThe right wing will flood the zone and the base will swallow it hook, line, and sinker. And the political reporters will feel compelled to write about it. Itâs just about getting the narrative out there.â
And getting the voters to throw up their hands in disgust. Thatâs the response Trump wants. Thatâs how he wins.
The screaming will increase in duration and intensity as the base feels cornered, and their grand dreams are stripped away from them by merciless reality.
Will they tool up & start shooting those they blame for this? Almost assuredly.
EAGLE EYES: A conservation group has released stunning aerial footage from a camera attached to an eagle named Victor, providing a birdâs-eye view of several crumbling European glaciers in what they hope will serve as a climate change wake-up call. https://t.co/t9IKIYRZL7 pic.twitter.com/pr9sOqh4sE
â ABC News (@ABC) October 3, 2019
re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth
Facebook tells me itâs policy is to run political ads even if they contain lies
So, Facebookâs corporate policy is defamation. Awesome.
meanwhile in Scotland:
Iâve worked for weeks on an investigation into financial ties b/w US Defence Dept & Glasgow Prestwick Airport, an issue being probed by the House Oversight Committee in US Congress. Iâm shocked at what I found. My longreadâs written, legalled & ready to roll. Online at 10pm BST. pic.twitter.com/5xk2TuPljV
â Martyn McLaughlin (@MartynMcL) October 3, 2019
(that would be 5 pm EDT)
re: #405 KGxvi
Iâm beginning to think we need to find ways to decouple the offices of the president and vice-president.
For one, Iâm not sure it makes sense to consider the VP part of the executive branch, since most of the officeâs constitutional duties are actually legislative in nature.
Part of me feels like it would be better to actually vote for the offices separately (how that would effect the actual electoral vote is another question, but most states bind their electors to the popular will anyway).
For now, heâs just another spokesperson for Trump. They were separate, originally, and that caused so many problems they fixed it pretty quickly.
re: #406 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)
From the Daily Beast today:
The screaming will increase in duration and intensity as the base feels cornered, and their grand dreams are stripped away from them by merciless reality.
Will they tool up & start shooting those they blame for this? Almost assuredly.
A few will. Most will turn their attention to 2022 after the GOP loses in 2020.
Seniors in The Villages are calling out #TrumpsBrokenPromises.
âDonald Trump has done irreparable damage. He is not a Republican, he is not a Democrat. He is not for seniors. He is not for the military. He is for Donald Trump. Period.â pic.twitter.com/aDlGO7ttoFâ Florida Democrats (@FlaDems) October 3, 2019
Seniors in The Villages are calling out #TrumpsBrokenPromises.
âI donât feel that Donald Trump is good for seniors. I think weâve reached a tipping point and Iâm not sure what kind of future thereâs going to be.â pic.twitter.com/PgGx8o2UJDâ Florida Democrats (@FlaDems) October 3, 2019
27 years ago, this guy promised me a life full of adventure. Iâd say heâs delivered. Hereâs to our next chapter of becoming empty nesters and discovering whatâs nextâwhile still feeling the magic that brought us together all those years ago. Happy anniversary, Barack. pic.twitter.com/ZKhvQGEo0B
â Michelle Obama (@MichelleObama) October 3, 2019
re: #405 KGxvi
Iâm beginning to think we need to find ways to decouple the offices of the president and vice-president.
For one, Iâm not sure it makes sense to consider the VP part of the executive branch, since most of the officeâs constitutional duties are actually legislative in nature.
Part of me feels like it would be better to actually vote for the offices separately (how that would effect the actual electoral vote is another question, but most states bind their electors to the popular will anyway).
Wasnât that the original system set up by the Constitution til it was changed by the Twelfth (?) Amendment?
It had its flaws, but I wonder what the political scene would look like today, if Hillary Clinton , rather than Mike Pence, was next in line..?
Sounds about right. pic.twitter.com/9YdJQEUZKT
â DeirdređșđžđŽó §ó ąó łó Łó Žó ż (@Celticlassy10) October 3, 2019
I canât wait until Trump releases the report from Nigeria, Dominica or Somalia on Bidenâs corruption.
Those will convince me!
//
re: #410 Belafon
For now, heâs just another spokesperson for Trump. They were separate, originally, and that caused so many problems they fixed it pretty quickly.
The problems werenât really because they were separate, so much as because of how they did the voting (first place in the electoral college was president, second place was vice president).
I so miss having a President who was a decent human being.
re: #405 KGxvi
Iâm beginning to think we need to find ways to decouple the offices of the president and vice-president.
For one, Iâm not sure it makes sense to consider the VP part of the executive branch, since most of the officeâs constitutional duties are actually legislative in nature.
Part of me feels like it would be better to actually vote for the offices separately (how that would effect the actual electoral vote is another question, but most states bind their electors to the popular will anyway).
They tried that. It was a problem. Thatâs why the 12th Amendment.
âElizabeth Warren, Cougar?â sign at Jacob Wohl presser. LOL. https://t.co/mhCEjhizQW
â JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) October 3, 2019
re: #410 Belafon
For now, heâs just another spokesperson for Trump. They were separate, originally, and that caused so many problems they fixed it pretty quickly.
There werenât parties originally and the founding fathers did not favor them. Article 2 specified that the person who received the most electors became President, if the person received a majority of the electors, and the person in 2nd place became Vice-President.
re: #414 Jay C
Wasnât that the original system set up by the Constitution til it was changed by the Twelfth (?) Amendment?
It had its flaws, but I wonder what the political scene would look like today, if Hillary Clinton , rather than Mike Pence, was next in line..?
The only real change in the 12th Amendment was that there are now separate ballots cast in the electoral college rather than a single ballot. Most of how the Vice Presidency works today is a modern construction, post WWII mostly, and because the parties captured the VP nominations.
I suppose to incels, a cougar is the ultimate enemy.
re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth
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The president, who created a brand based on being a master dealmaker who gets everything he wants, and on winning everything he sets out to do, is now pathetically begging other countries to help win an election against a man he has called feeble and crazy.
THIS is your bullgod?â Mike Rothschild (@rothschildmd) October 3, 2019
re: #421 Hecubaâs daughter
There werenât parties originally and the founding fathers did not favor them. Article 2 specified that the person who received the most electors became President, if the person received a majority of the electors, and the person in 2nd place became Vice-President.
Hell, originally it was considered unseemly to run a campaign for president, or to even be considered to want the job. Imagine campaigns basically being run by SuperPACs and the actual candidates saying things like âif itâs the will of the people, and the electors, then I will serve.â
re: #423 jaunte
I suppose to incels, a cougar is the ultimate enemy.
Did the Marine ever show up to âcorroborateâ the Wohl fable?
re: #427 Hecubaâs daughter
I havenât really been tracking the story.
re: #426 KGxvi
Hell, originally it was considered unseemly to run a campaign for president, or to even be considered to want the job. Imagine campaigns basically being run by SuperPACs and the actual candidates saying things like âif itâs the will of the people, and the electors, then I will serve.â
âI will not accept if nominated and will not serve if elected.â
re: #418 Eclectic Cyborg
I so miss having a President who was a decent human being.
I miss having a President who could pass a Voight Kampff testâŠ
re: #414 Jay C
Wasnât that the original system set up by the Constitution til it was changed by the Twelfth (?) Amendment?
It had its flaws, but I wonder what the political scene would look like today, if Hillary Clinton , rather than Mike Pence, was next in line..?
Where that would have been really interesting would have been in 2001. Assuming a result similar to Gore vs Bush. Bush as president, Gore as VP with a 50/50 Senate.
re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth
âThe Villagesâ being a notorious hot-bed for elder sex-swapping.
re: #426 KGxvi
Hell, originally it was considered unseemly to run a campaign for president, or to even be considered to want the job. Imagine campaigns basically being run by SuperPACs and the actual candidates saying things like âif itâs the will of the people, and the electors, then I will serve.â
Washington in particular thought it crass and borderline despotic to actually want to run for the job. He wrote letters and sought advice on whether he should actually accept the job, since he thought that he would appear interested (IE seeking personal gain) by taking the position.
re: #427 Hecubaâs daughter
obviously john cena is elizabeth warrenâs marine lover pic.twitter.com/Etrk51iZSW
â Oliver Willis (@owillis) October 3, 2019
O_o
Barr thinks this is all just hilarious. https://t.co/SSxvKUvclc
â Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) October 3, 2019
re: #306 Hecubaâs daughter
Tom Baker left in 1981 â the following doctors of the original series did not have the same level of charisma as Baker.
Nor his mad rap battle prowess.
Iâll show myself outâŠ
Joe, I fear the GOP is done. You and any other sane conservatives should see if a new center right conservative party can be built.
â DeirdređșđžđŽó §ó ąó łó Łó Žó ż (@Celticlassy10) October 3, 2019
re: #431 Targetpractice
âI will not accept if nominated and will not serve if elected.â
âWilliam Tecumseh Sherman
1884
re: #426 KGxvi
Hell, originally it was considered unseemly to run a campaign for president, or to even be considered to want the job. Imagine campaigns basically being run by SuperPACs and the actual candidates saying things like âif itâs the will of the people, and the electors, then I will serve.â
Or the long-time tradition of the âfront porch campaignâ, where the candidate basically stayed home and did the occasional interview, while Party operatives did the scutwork of actual campaigning.
New: The son of Rep. Chris Collins, who admitted to an insider trading conspiracy two days ago, pleaded guilty too today.
Cameron Collins confirmed he received the info from his father and knew it was âwrong and illegal.â
Background, @CourthouseNews: https://t.co/c2bRee9Pnvâ Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) October 3, 2019
re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth
Greenland isnât a country but a territory of *checks notes* - Denmark.
re: #420 jaunte
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âElizabeth Warren, Cougar?â sign at Jacob Wohl presser. LOL.
If he dies, he dies.
re: #445 b.d. (Theyâre all guilty as sin)
Joe is not a sane conservative.
He came around. He apologized for some of the things he said previously.
re: #443 lawhawk
Greenland isnât a country but a territory of *checks notes* - Denmark.
NOT FOR LONG!
NICKELBACKLASH â Trump fans are enraged at Nickelback and not over their music. https://t.co/2cArOukoaC
Via @willsommerâ Sam Stein (@samstein) October 3, 2019
By a 52-21 margin, Americans think asking Ukraine to investigate Biden is an abuse of power, per USAToday poll.
The gap among independents is huge: 45%-16%.
Itâs even close among Republicans: 30%-40%.
Doubling down like this is ⊠unbelievably risky. https://t.co/PDVrJrMxSBâ Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) October 3, 2019
THIS IS URGENT AND DANGEROUS.
The Trump Administration is doing little while Ebola rages in Central Africa. A deadly example of failed US global leadership.
The Ebola epidemic is in full swing. Where is the Trump administration? - The Washington Post https://t.co/gfResAPLwOâ Susan Rice (@AmbassadorRice) October 3, 2019
re: #444 garzooma
If he dies, he dies.
âI wasnât finished, and he just fell asleep. When I got back from my campaign stop, he was gone.â - Warren, possibly.
Remember when Mike Pence took a boondoggle trip across Ireland solely to stay at trumpâs hotel and then lied about it?
That was last month. #Shameless https://t.co/x45Zwp7zv0â Bill Pascrell, Jr. (@BillPascrell) October 3, 2019
Dunkin Donuts would like to be excluded from this narrative https://t.co/7xFyDKrcwa
â Kathryn Watson (@kathrynw5) October 3, 2019
re: #450 Belafon
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Somehow, I donât think itâs Dems who have to worry about turning off indie voters with this impeachment inquiry.
The president canât specifically identify anything inaccurate in the whistleblowerâs complaint: pic.twitter.com/KKl2BckJkB
â Kathryn Watson (@kathrynw5) October 3, 2019
Whatâs funny is Mike Penceâs administration when he was governor of Indiana tried to start their own news agency, but the plan was shelved when the free press pushed backhttps://t.co/yWTs1YUFlT
â Kathryn Watson (@kathrynw5) October 3, 2019
Great thread with some much-needed perspective on why the norms President Trump ignores are so important.
And why his refusal to follow them are further evidence of corruption that the GOP has been ignoring.
They brought this on themselves. https://t.co/zlNPlRqQifâ Justin Blankenship (@jgblankenship) October 3, 2019
good fucking grief
trump in florida says he âwouldnât be surprisedâ if âsome of the hoaxâ heâs facing originated from industries like the pharmaceutical industry he says heâs fighting
â Justin Sink (@justinsink) October 3, 2019
re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth
Kathryn Watson
â
@kathrynw5
The president canât specifically identify anything inaccurate in the whistleblowerâs complaint:
To be fair, since Trump doesnât read, he canât identify anything accurate or inaccurate in any document.
Why is Newt Gingrich in Italy listening to Pompeo speak and gazing at him like theyâre lovers? pic.twitter.com/zML6bTd6Ps
â Mystery Solvent (@MysterySolvent) October 3, 2019
re: #462 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Newtâs current wife is the ambassador to the Vatican.
ReallyâŠâŠ
re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth
good fucking grief
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Hmm, is that meant to be some kind of dog whistle?
Trump says Biden and people like Biden are probably why China has had trade advantages over the US. Also he slams politicians who have their sons profiting off their offices, so sad for @DonaldJTrumpJr pic.twitter.com/mOOOlZfzRf
â Oliver Willis (@owillis) October 3, 2019
re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth
I know
Figured it was rhetorical. But he does have moo cow eyes, doesnât he?
Trump says âObummercareâ but then immediately insists he didnât actually say that pic.twitter.com/8BuE0ZgwEj
â Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 3, 2019
President Infowars floats a conspiracy theory that prescription drug execs played a role in âthe hoaxâ because they want him out of office. pic.twitter.com/GUXSvG3E7L
â Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 3, 2019
re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth
Speaking at a SEC conference, Bill Barr opens with a joke, saying reporters were shouting questions at him yesterday and one asked âWhat country are you going to next, Mr. Barr?â He says, chuckling: âAnd I said, âGreenland.ââ
based on that read, no he didnt
So consensus pls.
Is his plan at this point to believe the Senate will vote party line for this guy regardless of the evidence?
re: #443 lawhawk
Greenland isnât a country but a territory of *checks notes* - Denmark.
well heâs the AG not the SOS // (1/2)
re: #473 Dave In Austin
So consensus pls.
Is his plan at this point to believe the Senate will vote party line for this guy regardless of the evidence?
Yep. As he said, he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose any voters â especially in the Senate GOP
Yes, that is his plan.
However⊠more than 20 Senate Republicans are up for re-election 13 months from now. Keeping their jobs is more important to them than him keeping his job. And most of them are MUCH better at reading tea leaves than he is.
re: #476 sagehen
Yes, that is his plan.
However⊠more than 20 Senate Republicans are up for re-election 13 months from now. Keeping their jobs is more important to them than him keeping his job. And most of them are MUCH better at reading tea leaves than he is.
Your fingers to dogâs eyesâŠ.
re: #421 Hecubaâs daughter
There werenât parties originally and the founding fathers did not favor them. Article 2 specified that the person who received the most electors became President, if the person received a majority of the electors, and the person in 2nd place became Vice-President.
As explained in
Hamilton: The Election of 1800
re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth
(on top of every other posture, no doubt he hasnt read it himself)
The president canât specifically identify anything inaccurate in the whistleblowerâs complaint: pic.twitter.com/KKl2BckJkB
â Kathryn Watson (@kathrynw5) October 3, 2019
This is a good thing.
93.5% Of Eligible Voters In Travis County Are Registered To Vote. Thatâs A Record. https://t.co/SPJcyAUsbOâ đŠAnd the Wind Cries âImpeachMootâđŠ (@DaveoutofAustin) October 3, 2019
The text messages, which were obtained by @ABC News, were shared by Volker during a closed door deposition before multiple House committees this morning https://t.co/o14uTe5q3Y
â ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) October 3, 2019
re: #479 DangerMan
(on top of every other posture, no doubt he hasnt read it himself)
Trump has never failed, he has only been failed.
/
re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth
So Trump will label Taylor a member of the Deep State. Count on it.
re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth
LOL â Trump promises a new âincredibleâ health care plan that will be released âif the Republicans take back the House, keep the Senate, [and] keep the presidency.â
is there a skip in the record?
we heard that last time
re: #473 Dave In Austin
So consensus pls.
Is his plan at this point to believe the Senate will vote party line for this guy regardless of the evidence?
well since no oneâs given any testimony and virtually no dox have been received who knows
oh, and there aint no plan
re: #481 Sir John Barron
He already has Faux News State Media
Theyâve started to sour on him lately though. He canât stand it if they donât recklessly kiss his ass 24/7/365.
re: #473 Dave In Austin
So consensus pls.
Is his plan at this point to believe the Senate will vote party line for this guy regardless of the evidence?
Thatâs what I expect.
US diplo texts: this shakedown is wrong. Trump appointee replies: We all agree there is no shakedown. Also letâs take this conversation off text. https://t.co/2cZ0kflReo via @TPM
â Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 3, 2019
âHide the shakedown evidence!â
I just spent 5 minute defacing my Congressman Twitter page.
If you donât like yours, Iâd suggest you take 5 min. every day and do so.
It just feels right.
oh dear
The Jacob Wohl press conference has kicked off, but is being drowned out by hecklers and a car stereo.
â Will Sommer (@willsommer) October 3, 2019
Now the accuser is taking off his shirt for some reason. Wohl and Burkman day this is proof of something.
â Will Sommer (@willsommer) October 3, 2019
The supposed âsex scarâ from Jacob Wohlâs accuser is just from a chain from a swingset. Asked about this, the accuser just shrugged. https://t.co/vE0jqtzPGi
â Will Sommer (@willsommer) October 3, 2019
re: #491 Sir John Barron
âGreat Healthcare for You. Maybe. Fast. Big Plan. â
âPerfect. Beautiful.â
re: #487 DangerMan
is there a skip in the record?
we heard that last time
We heard this in 2016. GOP had no plan. It was repeal and donât bother replacing. Democrats retook the House in 2018 on strength of their fight to protect health coverage for Americans.
2018 - Trump claimed he had another tax cut in his pocket weeks before the midterms, but that was total vaporware since no one saw a plan. It never existed. Trump doesnât have a health care plan either.
2019 - again with the tax cuts and health care plans. GOP had a decade to come up with an alternative to the ACA, and all they could agree was try and repeal it legislatively (and that failed in bipartisan manner), or try the courts to achieve the same result.
At this rate, Trump will roll out an infrastructure week plan in 3⊠2⊠1âŠ
Weâll sooner see Trumpâs tax returns than any health care plan, let alone infrastructure or tax cuts proposals.
re: #491 Sir John Barron
âGreat Healthcare for You. Maybe. Fast. Big Plan. â
..youâll have it if i win and we take the house back
give us an outline, whatâs in it, howâs it gonna work? (itâs written already right?)
i dont want to get into specifics, but itâs gonna be great
(and thereâs your tell)
re: #492 jaunte
itâs not a negotiation
you dont get to âagreeâ what it is
(he died. we all agreed it wasnt murder)
US diplo texts: this shakedown is wrong. Trump appointee replies: We all agree there is no shakedown. Also letâs take this conversation off text. https://t.co/2cZ0kflReo via @TPM
â Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 3, 2019
New: In May, Ukrainian oligarch said Giuliani was orchestrating a âclear conspiracy against Bidenâ https://t.co/75HV4BMVQp @washingtonpost
â Josh Rogin (@joshrogin) October 3, 2019
Kolomoisky claims to have text messages from and receipts of payments to Giulianiâs partners who were trying to get Ukrainians to interfere in U.S. politics: https://t.co/75HV4BMVQp
â Josh Rogin (@joshrogin) October 3, 2019
re: #498 DangerMan
Itâs like âshut up, he explained.â
I totes want ELIZABETH WARREN: COUGAR!! now. đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
â DeirdređșđžđŽó §ó ąó łó Łó Žó ż (@Celticlassy10) October 3, 2019
Jack Burkman seems like exactly the guy who doesnât understand what âESTâ means and that itâs not actually the time zone DC is on right now.
re: #498 DangerMan
itâs not a negotiation
you dont get to âagreeâ what it is
(he died. we all agreed it wasnt murder)
âThere was no shakedown. Also, I can do shakedown NOT ILLEGAL!â
And the latest Jacob Wohl /Jack Burkman press conference comes to an end, with the two and their bogus accuser retreating inside. The hecklers definitely appeared to have taken control of this one.
â Will Sommer (@willsommer) October 3, 2019
re: #501 Scottish Dragon
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like i said the other day press conference âin his drivewayâ tells you all you need to know
re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth
âItâs not a conspiracy if weâre trying to find a conspiracy or if we are trying to create a conspiracy to find.â
/
Iâm not really sure whatâs going on, but I heard itâs bad. https://t.co/NhgOyJ0hha
â Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 3, 2019
Iâll passâŠ
Jacob Wohlâs Elizabeth Warren press conference was legendary comedy, you can watch the whole thing here:https://t.co/Ycjlf08e7N
â Eliot Higgins (@EliotHiggins) October 3, 2019
re: #68 Shropshire Slasher
I heard that in 2016, wasnât accurate, but maybe it will energize the Democrats base. Iâm of the opinion the breathlessness of the impeachment cry will wear them out
A friend who is pre-planning an #ImpeachmentParty suggested the first thing in the menu: âsubpoena coladasâ.
Any more ideas?â Vote Dem for the Planet (@Brasilmagic) October 3, 2019
Aaaaand here we go.
Nothing to see here. https://t.co/RLVvCMaGa2
â Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) October 3, 2019
Full on Mugabe.
he is nutz, and so are those Villagers eejits
Pres Trump says âMedicare is under threat like never before.â Says almost every Democrat advocates a healthcare takeover that would obliterate Medicare. Says heâll ânever allow those politicians to steal your healthcare and give it to illegal immigrants.â
â Mark Knoller (@markknoller) October 3, 2019
In a campaign style speech, Pres charges that Democratic healthcare proposals would âput everyone into a single socialist government-run program,â that would end private insurance for all Americans. pic.twitter.com/PWxtyLFTbP
â Mark Knoller (@markknoller) October 3, 2019
Pres says the Executive Order heâs signing today will strengthen Medicare with ânew tools and optionsâ for Medicare Advantage. Says it will also reduce âunnecessary regulationsâ and âstop fraud and abuse.â
â Mark Knoller (@markknoller) October 3, 2019
Pres assures Villages audience that his healthcare policy will protect vulnerable patients, deliver affordability, protect those with pre-existing conditions, and challenge Congress to stop âpractice of surprise medical billing.â pic.twitter.com/6vxLeB1c4i
â Mark Knoller (@markknoller) October 3, 2019
Ten comments in the bottom comments section. Is this a record?
re: #514 I Would Prefer Not To
Ten comments in the bottom comments section. Is this a record?
Giving BrianJ a run for the rosesâŠ
re: #512 Scottish Dragon
Aaaaand here we go.
Full on Mugabe.
But it was bad, very wrong, for Obama DOJ to âspyâ on Trump.
////
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Elizabeth Warren âasked for a cat of nine-tailsâ, says Warrenâs accuser.
â Robert Caruso (@robertcaruso) October 3, 2019
âI had many BDSM sessions with @ewarrenâ, says âthe war hero Marineâ Jacob Wohl found. pic.twitter.com/JVWTccpJ1H
â Robert Caruso (@robertcaruso) October 3, 2019
The press conference is being drowned by out by Chumbawamba. Jacob tells the security guard to remove a heckler, but the guard appears to refuse on the grounds that the man is on public property.
â Will Sommer (@willsommer) October 3, 2019
Trump turning a WH (taxpayer funded) event on Medicare into campaign rally: âThese are maniacs. Elizabeth, Pocohantas. When I used to hit her, I thought she was done. But she came back from the ashes. Now Iâm gonna have to do it again because I donât see Sleepy Joe making it.â
â Jim Acosta (@Acosta) October 3, 2019
So, to sum up:
Elizabeth Warren is apparently a dom whose sub is a BUILT 24yo married marine
the marine was allegedly given a huge scar by Warren âwhippingâ him
He left his instagram public, which immediately disproves the scar story
Jacob Wohl is a virgin who canât drive.â Dianna EEEEK Anderson đłïžâđ (@diannaeanderson) October 3, 2019
re: #513 Backwoods_Sleuth
he is nutz, and so are those Villagers eejits
Pres Trump says âMedicare is under threat like never before.â Says almost every Democrat advocates a healthcare takeover that would obliterate Medicare
Right. Medicare-for-All will obliterate Medicare
Todayâs Jacob Wohl press conference topic: pic.twitter.com/48cSCHlrpw
â Will Sommer (@willsommer) October 3, 2019
re: #520 b.d. (Theyâre all guilty as sin)
The press conference is being drowned out by Chumbawamba.
Best detail ever.
This is the supposed Marine that Liz Warren was wearing out in the bedroom (as if that idea makes her less popular)â
Brainiac left his Instagram account public. https://t.co/jH5tbjv1wlâ Killer Klowns From Outer Space đșđž (@soonergrunt) October 3, 2019
Where do Wohl and Burkman keep getting the money to do this shit?
re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth
Just the President casually joking about violence against women.
Dude has a Triple XXX tattoo? What a La-Hoo-Za-Hayair!
re: #528 Eclectic Cyborg
Where do Wohl and Burkman keep getting the money to do this shit?
My guess is Wohlâs dad is bankrolling this shit show. Or itâs from the same fountain of funds that gives us project Veritas (aka the OâKeefe shitshow).
re: #519 Backwoods_Sleuth
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Elizabeth Warren âasked for a cat of nine-tailsâ, says Warrenâs accuser.
itâs a lie because itâs âcat âo nine tailsâ (clip/magazine)
and iâd be asking dates, times, places
re: #65 Anymouse đčđ
He hasnât held a Nuremberg Electric Boogaloo 2 rally in some time.
Glad to see that reference used. I used to use it a bunch but all the whippersnappers around me werenât getting it. Gosh darn whippersnappers!
re: #523 b.d. (Theyâre all guilty as sin)
gave him a scar recently
So, to sum up:
Elizabeth Warren is apparently a dom whose sub is a BUILT 24yo married marine
the marine was allegedly given a huge scar by Warren âwhippingâ him
He left his instagram public, which immediately disproves the scar story
Jacob Wohl is a virgin who canât drive.â Dianna EEEEK Anderson đłïžâđ (@diannaeanderson) October 3, 2019
yeah, sheâs a public figure
this is in no way a satire (thought it might come up as a defense)
assuming she doesnt turn this on itâs head like it already looks like itâs doing to itself, has she got a case against these two bozos?
LOLWUT?
My guy has a Triple X movie logo tattoo this frigging ROCKS
â Gabe Delahaye (@gabedelahaye) October 3, 2019
From Pelosi response to Kevin McCarthy: âI received your letter this morning shortly after the world witnessed President Trump on national television asking yet another foreign power to interfere in the upcoming 2020 elections.â She really is in a whole different league.
â Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) October 3, 2019
shorter pelosi: rofl, no https://t.co/wb52bL2ZME
â Oliver Willis (@owillis) October 3, 2019
re: #534 DangerMan
gave him a scar recently
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yeah, sheâs a public figure
this is in no way a satire (thought it might come up as a defense)assuming she doesnt turn this on itâs head like it already looks like itâs doing to itself, has she got a case against these two bozos?
Ahahahahahahha hereâs a photo from 2016 showing the âscarâ that Liz Warren gave him after a BDSM whipping this year pic.twitter.com/0H7PCEUYvb
â Aric Toler (@AricToler) October 3, 2019
And hereâs the Facebook, with the same tattoo. The guy was apparently really a Marine, but everything else is hilariously fake. He was in the 1/3, not 13.https://t.co/C9jcj44jW7 pic.twitter.com/pa8kUFLZDs
â Aric Toler (@AricToler) October 3, 2019
This guy just took off his shirt to show off âwhipping scarsâ that he supposedly got a few months ago, and literally posted a photo of this same scar on his public Instagram profile in 2016, I canât get over how dumb he (and Jacob) is.
â Aric Toler (@AricToler) October 3, 2019
Fightinâ the Pharmaceuticals
Winning for the Vets & service members (and their families)
Tricare Drug Costs to Increase More Than 40% in 2020 https://t.co/9DBF42tn2M
âCome Onâ: DC Judge Exasperated as Larry Klayman Lobs Legal Attacks on Mueller https://t.co/w1XFuaW8Xz via @TheNLJ
â Christine Corcos (@LpcProf) October 3, 2019
re: #543 FormerDirtDart đđ
Why do judges keep giving Klayman the time of day and donât just seek his disbarment for clogging up the legal system with his bulkshit? His actions have always been egregious, but he keeps taking it to new levels.
Yes. Thatâs how you got elected. Foreign agencies interfered in our democracy. And you deny it despite overwhelming and provable evidence and Mitch McConnell blocks any legislation to stop it.
Thank you for bringing it up. https://t.co/kpGtTNbW79â Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 3, 2019
re: #523 b.d. (Theyâre all guilty as sin)
Never expected this kind of thing during Infrastructure Week.
re: #534 DangerMan
She should ignore this nonsense. Senator Warren is a busy and serious candidate. Why dignify this foolishness with a response?
re: #547 Patricia Kayden
She should ignore this nonsense. Senator Warren is a busy and serious candidate. Why dignify this foolishness with a response?
She would get some serious street cred. :-D
And yet he tweeted two minutes before you tweeted this and he just tweeted again https://t.co/2bSVFzAObI
â Yashar Ali đ (@yashar) October 3, 2019
re: #541 Backwoods_Sleuth
I really hope not, but have any real âmediaâ given Wohl and Burkmanâs ludicrous charade any attention - other than the mockery and scorn it deserves?
I would have thought these bozos would have exhausted whatever shreds of credibility they might have had after their last stunt fizzled, but who knows�
Letâs say itâs true.
Letâs say it is.
Letâs just say for a moment, that it happened.
Elizabeth Warren fucked a Marine so damned hard it left him physically scared and emotionally broken.
A MARINE.
Imagine what sheâll do to Putin.
Or Kimâs soft ass.
Iâm just saying.â Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 3, 2019
re: #547 Patricia Kayden
She should ignore this nonsense. Senator Warren is a busy and serious candidate. Why dignify this foolishness with a response?
ignoring is my #1 go to with crackpots to be sure
since trump hasnt said anything egregious in the last 20 minutes i was just musing whether one way or another she could squash these two like the bugs they are
either approach works for me
This is not âhearsay.â
This is not an âadmission.â
This is what is called the âactus reus.â
This is the act of the crime itself. https://t.co/cDUH2hBqdBâ Scott Hechinger (@ScottHech) October 3, 2019
re: #551 lawhawk
i concede
elizabeth warren herself doesnt have to do anything
thereâs a posse
Letâs say itâs true.
Letâs say it is.
Letâs just say for a moment, that it happened.
Elizabeth Warren fucked a Marine so damned hard it left him physically scared and emotionally broken.
A MARINE.
Imagine what sheâll do to Putin.
Or Kimâs soft ass.
Iâm just saying.â Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 3, 2019
Warrenâs campaign needs to come out with some cougar merch asap
â Jason McGlothlenstein (@goddamnedfrank) October 3, 2019
re: #553 jaunte
actus rectus
the orange asshole in action
This is not âhearsay.â
This is not an âadmission.â
This is what is called the âactus reus.â
This is the act of the crime itself. https://t.co/cDUH2hBqdBâ Scott Hechinger (@ScottHech) October 3, 2019
re: #556 DangerMan
actus rectus
the orange asshole in action
âIf I openly admit a crime, then it isnât a crime, OK?â
//
re: #557 DangerMan
is there a cougar voting bloc?
Is there a block of people who donât think a woman should be held to a different standard than men? Yep.
re: #558 Sir John Barron
âIf I openly admit a crime, then it isnât a crime, OK?â
//
who would be stupid enough toâŠ., oh wait, i just didâŠ
re: #557 DangerMan
is there a cougar voting bloc?
Probably a lot of cross over with college educated white women, Iâm guessing
re: #551 lawhawk
Letâs say itâs true.
Letâs say it is.
Letâs just say for a moment, that it happened.
Elizabeth Warren fucked a Marine so damned hard it left him physically scared and emotionally broken.
A MARINE.
Imagine what sheâll do to Putin.
Or Kimâs soft ass.
Iâm just saying.
â Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) October 3, 2019
SeriouslyâŠif any of this was true (which, given the source, I seriously doubt), Warren went up a bit in my estimation. I donât give a shit what kinks anyone has, as long as itâs between people old enough to legally consent and understand.
re: #555 goddamnedfrank
re: #557 DangerMan
is there a cougar voting bloc?
re: #559 Belafon
Is there a block of people who donât think a woman should be held to a different standard than men? Yep.
re: #561 KGxvi
Probably a lot of cross over with college educated white women, Iâm guessing
Wohl & Co., in trying to push the âWarren is a lecherous reprobate whoreâ angle donât realize that, to many nowadays, being a âcougarâ (even one thatâs into BDSM) really doesnât register as a problem with many people.
Hell, there was a fairly popular TV show that ran on ABC and TBS for six years called Cougar Town, ferchrissakes (even if it drifted from the âcougarâ plotline)âŠ
re: #261 b.d. (Theyâre all guilty as sin)
Even Saddam Hussein never had polls this good.
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And the west wing of the insane asylum voted 98% - 2% that they should be allowed to smear their shit on the walls.
re: #527 FormerDirtDart đđ
Killer Klowns From Outer Space đșđž
@soonergrunt
This is the supposed Marine that Liz Warren was wearing out in the bedroom (as if that idea makes her less popular)â
Brainiac left his Instagram account public.
Is his back covered in pimples? Ewwww. Never saw bright red freckles before. Ugghhh.
re: #357 DodgerFan1988
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Who is going to be their/our Dr. Mengele for this process?
re: #387 Tgrad98
Poor little crooked donnie. Getting triggered every day on twitter will just provide further proof to future generations that his whole house of cards collapsed much quicker than anyone expected. Let us hold a minute of silence to mourn his administration. NOT!
I did a minute of silence, I was dancing with a smile on my face thoâ.
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