Astounding New Video From Jacob Collier: “All Night Long”

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I have to admit I didn’t even like the original version of this song, but Jacob takes it to an entirely different universe.

After hundreds of hours of video-editing time, I give you the fruits of my labours… the video for my arrangement of Lionel Richie’s “All Night Long” (Djesse Vol. 1)!

• • • FEATURING • • •

TAKE 6:
Claude V. McKnight III
David Thomas
Joey Kibble
Mark Kibble
Khristian Dentley
Alvin Chea

METROPOLE ORKEST:
Conductor and legend: Jules Buckley
1st Violin: Arlia de Ruiter, Vera Laporeva, Sarah Koch, Denis Koenders, Pauline Terlouw, David Peijnenborgh, Casper Donker, Henriëtte Luytjes, Francoise van Varsseveld, Christina Knoll, Giles Francis & Yannick Hiwat
2nd Violin: Herman van Haaren, Wim Kok, Jasper van Rosmalen, Ruben Margarita, Ewa Zbyszynska, Merel Jonker, Robert Baba & Suzie Collier
Viola: Norman Jansen
Viola: Mieke Honingh
Viola: Julia Jowett
Viola: Iris Schut
Viola: Isabella Petersen
Viola: Wouter Huizinga
Viola: Alex Welch
Cello: Emile Visser
Cello: Maarten Jansen
Cello: Annie Tangberg
Cello: Jascha Albracht
Cello: Sebastiaan de Rode
Double Bass: Erik Winkelmann
Double Bass: Arend Liefkes
Double Bass: Boris Oostendorp
Harp: Joke Schonewille
Flute: Mariël van den Bos
Flute: Janine Abbas
Flute: Liset Pennings
Oboe: Willem Luijt
Clarinet, Saxophone: Marc Scholten
Clarinet, Saxophone: Paul van der Feen
Clarinet, Saxophone: Leo Janssen
Clarinet, Saxophone: Sjoerd Dijkhuizen
Clarinet, Saxophone: Max Boeree
Clarinet, Saxophone: David Kweksilber
Horn: Pieter Hunfeld
Horn: Petra Botma
Horn: Wendy Leliveld
Horn: Lies Molenaar
Horn: Sander van Dijk
Horn: Fons Verspaandonk
Trumpet: Ray Bruinsma
Trumpet: Martijn de Laat
Trumpet: Nico Schepers
Trumpet: Rik Mol
Trumpet: Ruud Breuls
Trumpet: Jo Hermans
Trumpet: Angelo Verploegen
Trombone: Jan Oosting
Trombone: Jan Bastiani
Trombone: Frederik Heirman
Trombone: Martijn Sohier
Bass Trombone: Martin van den Berg
Bass Trombone: Bart van Gorp
Tuba: Ries Schellekens
Percussion: Eddy Koopman
Percussion: Murk Jiskoot
Percussion: Frank Wardenier
Remote Camera Operators: Max Boeree and Alle van der Wal

THE AEOLIANS OF OAKWOOD UNIVERSITY:
Alaysia Bookal, Aleigha Durand, Allayna O’Quinn, Andre Smith, Asriel Davis, Asya Bookal, Briana Marshall, Carl Reed, Celine Sylvester, Chad Lupoe, Charles Wallington, Chesroleeysia Bobb, Cleavon Davis, Cole Henry, Dominique DeAbreu, Haley Flemons, Hector Jordan, Holland Sampson, Jonathan Mills, JoPaul Scavella, Jourdan Bardo, Kashea Whyte, Keviez Wilson, Kobe Brown, Kristin Hall, Leonard Brown, Lincoln Liburd, Louis Cleare, Maia Foster, Malia Ewen, Malik George, Malik Mchayle, Marc Simons, Marissa Wright, Matthew Cordner, Mykel Robinson-Collins, Naomi Parchment, Natrickie Louissant, Patricia Williams, Roddley Point Du Jour, Samara Bowden, Samella Carryl, Terell Francis-Clarke, Zarren Bennett & Jason Max Ferdinand. Videographer: JoPaul Scavella

Electric Bass & Drone Operator: Robin Mullarkey
Chord-sign holders: Quincy Jones, Steve Vai
Circle of Fifths guy: Lionel Richie
Black-and white cynic: George Gershwin

Moroccan Gnawa legend / leader: Hamid El Kasri
Krakebs: Abdelhak Bounhar
Krakebs: Abderrazak Moustaqim
Krakebs: Wahid Boudjeltia
Krakebs: Moulay Abdekrim Alaalaoui

Video Footage: Jacob’s music room; Royal Albert Hall (London); Oakwood University (Alabama); Muziekcentrum van de Omroep (Netherlands); QPAC (Brisbane, Australia); The Opera House (Toronto); the streets of New Orleans; homes in Los Angeles; London parks.

Arranged, orchestrated, recorded, mixed, produced by Jacob in Logic Pro X.
Additional orchestration: Vladimir Nikolov

Video edited by Jacob in Adobe Premiere Pro.

© Hajanga Records

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319 comments

1
Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2019 • 7:35:23pm

Try to identify all the musical quotations in this one. It’s freaking amazing.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 4, 2019 • 7:38:45pm

I have my NY diver’s license. It only took about 7 hours (3 plus hours on the A train, due to $#%#%#%$#%$#%. I can never understand the announcements).

Thanks for you support (driving without a license is not fun). I only did it twice and boy did I NOT speed.

I home and listening to the Yankees on the radio.

Peace to all of you.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 4, 2019 • 7:43:50pm

A head spinning week ends with a massive Friday news dump: Senator Johnson confirming a qui pro quo, Sanders’ heart attack, a third whistleblower possible and Warren firing a top aide. Whew!

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2019 • 7:44:14pm

Got a little fascinating rhythm in there.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 4, 2019 • 7:44:40pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 4, 2019 • 7:45:59pm
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plansbandc  Oct 4, 2019 • 7:50:45pm

re: #2 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m glad you survived that hell.

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gocart mozart  Oct 4, 2019 • 7:51:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2019 • 7:53:07pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 4, 2019 • 7:57:22pm
Weekend at Bernies Part II
Weekend at Bernies part II
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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:01:38pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:06:14pm

Hey Belafon if you are still around, the end of the last thread has some more of my babbling re microphones

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:07:16pm

From the previous thread:
re: #147 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The hinterland gentry:
Alabama Mayor Calls for Killing LGBTQ People in Facebook Post

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These people are the heart and soul of the Republican Party, billionaires and goobers notwithstanding. There is a reason that the local aristocracy was the main target of the French Revolution. Louis XVI, Marie Antoinette, and other high profile types lost their heads, to be sure, but it was the hereditary bosses out in the provinces who contributed the real numbers to Madame Guillotine.

The articles in The Advocate and the Birmingham ABC affiliate are from June.

Nevertheless, NIFB douchecanoes like this guy are why atheists fly the Pumpkin Emoji (hat tip to Mr. Atheist of YouTube who first came under attack from the NIFB and came up with “questions” regarding their sexual attraction to pumpkins, since Steven Anderson called him one repeatedly).

I have no doubt those fascist douchecanoes would come after people like me as well (socialists). Heck he’s got me three times since they’ve also said they would come after atheists and Democrats.

Christians are scary. There was no way to know this guy wants to kill people until he outed himself on Facebook.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:10:35pm

Today my 15yo asked if I could pick up some CDs that he requested through our local little library (meaning that they all came from other libraries in the network). I got there to find that he had ordered 63 CDs. The librarian let me spread them out between mine and my wife’s accounts, then overrode the system to allow me to check out the remainder. I think he’s just going to do a marathon download to his computer. But it’s an impressive range: lots of Dylan, but also Stevie Wonder and Earth, Wind, and Fire. Ornette Coleman, but also the earliest Replacements stuff. A bunch of Coltrane and Monk, but also Joy Division. He’s a super talented clarinetist, but I’ve been encouraging him to take up sax, too, because that’s the only way he can play in the school jazz band. So far, he wants to focus just on clarinet.

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BeachDem  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:18:06pm

Speaking of Diahann Carroll, as someone was on the last thread—what an incredible talent. RIP sweet, talented woman.

I saw her in “No Strings” when it went on tour in 1964. Not surprisingly, the tour only hit northern cities—not welcome in the south (the romance was Diahann and a white man.) Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

I still have the Broadway cast album (Richard Kiley was in it on Broadway.) Obligatory, damn I’m old!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:19:44pm

JFC! This is a crime in itself.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:20:08pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

JFC! This is a crime in itself.

BUTTER EMAILZ!!!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:22:20pm

re: #15 BeachDem

Mid 70s, freshman at Pitt and Ms. Carroll was Yum Yum in The Mikado with Jonathan Harris as Ko-Ko, Kurt Kasznar as The Mikado and Alan Young as Nanki Poo. Glorious to hear them sing as Harris really got evil as Ko-Ko!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:33:57pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

Today my 15yo asked if I could pick up some CDs that he requested through our local little library (meaning that they all came from other libraries in the network). I got there to find that he had ordered 63 CDs. The librarian let me spread them out between mine and my wife’s accounts, then overrode the system to allow me to check out the remainder. I think he’s just going to do a marathon download to his computer. But it’s an impressive range: lots of Dylan, but also Stevie Wonder and Earth, Wind, and Fire. Ornette Coleman, but also the earliest Replacements stuff. A bunch of Coltrane and Monk, but also Joy Division. He’s a super talented clarinetist, but I’ve been encouraging him to take up sax, too, because that’s the only way he can play in the school jazz band. So far, he wants to focus just on clarinet.

My 13 yo plays the Bari-Sax. Its huge!

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:40:12pm

re: #19 NO SMOCKING GUN!

My 13 yo plays the Bari-Sax. Its huge!

And it is super cool too, I think so anyway.

Morphine - Cure for Pain

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:46:55pm
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Belafon  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:49:39pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

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How do you deal with knowing all of the creatures that live in other bodies of water doing the same thing and not shutting them down for cleaning?

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:50:45pm

re: #12 Jebediah, RBG

Hey Belafon if you are still around, the end of the last thread has some more of my babbling re microphones

Thanks.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:55:29pm

Just to let everyone know, I don’t think they’re up to thinking about recording yet. They’re experimenting, playing on instruments they don’t otherwise get to play on (my son, the keyboardist, is a percussionist in band; the sax player plays the flute; the bass play played cello; and the drummer and electric players aren’t in music at school). It’s also an excuse to get together so their moms will let them hang out. But they’re wanting to do a little performing, and would like a couple of mics. I’m not sure when they’re going to want to think about recording.

I’ve read a lot of your suggestions, and am bookmarking various things.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2019 • 8:58:24pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

Today my 15yo asked if I could pick up some CDs that he requested through our local little library (meaning that they all came from other libraries in the network). I got there to find that he had ordered 63 CDs. The librarian let me spread them out between mine and my wife’s accounts, then overrode the system to allow me to check out the remainder. I think he’s just going to do a marathon download to his computer. But it’s an impressive range: lots of Dylan, but also Stevie Wonder and Earth, Wind, and Fire. Ornette Coleman, but also the earliest Replacements stuff. A bunch of Coltrane and Monk, but also Joy Division. He’s a super talented clarinetist, but I’ve been encouraging him to take up sax, too, because that’s the only way he can play in the school jazz band. So far, he wants to focus just on clarinet.

I wish the school Jazz bands would accommodate the kids that want to play. We know there’s Jazz clarinet. My oldest played euphonium, and I’ve seen those used.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:00:16pm

re: #22 Belafon

How do you deal with knowing all of the creatures that live in other bodies of water doing the same thing and not shutting them down for cleaning?

That’s what dry suits and scuba gear are for.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:01:12pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

Clearly thinking creatively way past that one instrument. Kudos.

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BigPapa  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:03:11pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:10:37pm

Good thread breaking down Volker’s testimony.

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:13:24pm

re: #20 Jebediah, RBG

And it is super cool too, I think so anyway.

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Video

Mmmm. Always loved that song.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:13:38pm

re: #24 Belafon

But they’re wanting to do a little performing, and would like a couple of mics. I’m not sure when they’re going to want to think about recording.

I’ve read a lot of your suggestions, and am bookmarking various things.

I wouldn’t even spend the hundred bucks on an SM58 yet, then. You can get cheap knockoffs for 25 or 30 bucks (Samson, Pyle, A-T) and run them into a guitar amp or a cheap vocal amp if all they need now is some PA to be heard over the guitar and drums. Again, call up Sweetwater and they won’t oversell you if you explain what’s needed.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:15:47pm

re: #2 I Would Prefer Not To

I have my NY diver’s license. It only took about 7 hours (3 plus hours on the A train, due to $#%#%#%$#%$#%. I can never understand the announcements).

Thanks for you support (driving without a license is not fun). I only did it twice and boy did I NOT speed.

I home and listening to the Yankees on the radio.

Peace to all of you.

Yikes. That took you almost as long as it takes me here at Chez Tumbleweed, and they have to mail my license from the state capital.

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gocart mozart  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:19:18pm

Latest advances in whiskey science

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Chrysicat  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:19:58pm

re: #10 I Would Prefer Not To

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As I know far too much about “right around the start of the 1990s movies”, wouldn’t that have to be “Part III”? “Weekend at Bernie’s 2” sent them to New Orleans.

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:20:11pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

Today my 15yo asked if I could pick up some CDs that he requested through our local little library (meaning that they all came from other libraries in the network). I got there to find that he had ordered 63 CDs. The librarian let me spread them out between mine and my wife’s accounts, then overrode the system to allow me to check out the remainder. I think he’s just going to do a marathon download to his computer. But it’s an impressive range: lots of Dylan, but also Stevie Wonder and Earth, Wind, and Fire. Ornette Coleman, but also the earliest Replacements stuff. A bunch of Coltrane and Monk, but also Joy Division. He’s a super talented clarinetist, but I’ve been encouraging him to take up sax, too, because that’s the only way he can play in the school jazz band. So far, he wants to focus just on clarinet.

Heheheheh. That’s actually really impressive. Does he have any Mingus, Velvet Underground/Lou Reed in his mix? And if he’s serious about his clarinet, tell him to look for Benny Goodman’s small group stuff and his classical repertoire - little known really and that’s a shame because he was a exquisite player far beyond his swing band.

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gocart mozart  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:21:53pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:24:06pm

I knew growing human cells in pigs was a bad idea.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:25:19pm

re: #37 Dread Pirate

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I knew growing human cells in pigs was a bad idea.

Orwell warned us…

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:25:51pm

re: #29 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Good thread breaking down Volker’s testimony.

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This will definitely need a thread unroll, but Heath Mayo had Texan and Conservative in his bio. This might get through a few people that wouldn’t listen to any of us.

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:27:03pm

re: #33 gocart mozart

Latest advances in whiskey science

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Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Marketing Single Malts as Jell-O shots to the youth market? Damn Pernod/Ricard to hell, the French bastards.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:28:03pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

Today my 15yo asked if I could pick up some CDs that he requested through our local little library (meaning that they all came from other libraries in the network). I got there to find that he had ordered 63 CDs. The librarian let me spread them out between mine and my wife’s accounts, then overrode the system to allow me to check out the remainder. I think he’s just going to do a marathon download to his computer. But it’s an impressive range: lots of Dylan, but also Stevie Wonder and Earth, Wind, and Fire. Ornette Coleman, but also the earliest Replacements stuff. A bunch of Coltrane and Monk, but also Joy Division. He’s a super talented clarinetist, but I’ve been encouraging him to take up sax, too, because that’s the only way he can play in the school jazz band. So far, he wants to focus just on clarinet.

Our public library is part of a chain which circulates CDs and DVDs between them (saving money on them).

Fun thing my wife did once with the “rotating CD list” (what they call it): She’d just taken over as library director. State law requires a librarian in an accredited library must inventory all the library’s property; she was in the middle of inventorying all the books when it was time to mail on the rotating CDs to the next library.

During the book inventory, she found all sorts of unbroken sheets of postage stamps of varying odd values. She used those to mail packages for several months to other libraries, making it look my wife is some sort of sovereign citizen wingnut. (She got comments from other libraries and the state library commission like “why are there sixteen 23¢ stamps on this package”)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:32:04pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

JFC! This is a crime in itself.

But Her E-mails
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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:32:37pm

re: #37 Dread Pirate

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I knew growing human cells in pigs was a bad idea.

So I guess we can put Animal Farm next to The Handmaid’s Tale of books that we didn’t realize were actually prophecies.

/

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makeitstop  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:36:55pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Try to identify all the musical quotations in this one. It’s freaking amazing.

I caught ‘Fascinatin’ Rhythm’ and ‘ABC.’ I’ve only listened to it a few times, and there’s a ton to unpack.

His musical universe just keeps expanding. It’s uncanny. He’s Mozart 2.0.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:37:17pm

re: #19 NO SMOCKING GUN!

My 13 yo plays the Bari-Sax. Its huge!

I started on alto, but it was small enough that I could carry it home from school, and that meant I had to practice. So I switched to baritone since I had to leave it in the band room.

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makeitstop  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:39:00pm

re: #23 Belafon

Thanks.

Mine, too. :)

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sagehen  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:39:14pm

re: #22 Belafon

How do you deal with knowing all of the creatures that live in other bodies of water doing the same thing and not shutting them down for cleaning?

“I never drink water. Fish fuck in it.”
— WC Fields

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makeitstop  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:42:48pm

Dunno if anyone’s posted this here yet, but it’s haunting. Chernobyl 2019, by drone.

Chernobyl 1080P

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:43:12pm

re: #29 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Good thread breaking down Volker’s testimony.

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Heh, Mollie Hemingway was on Fox tonight saying that the Volker testimony DESTROYED the Democrats’ impeachment premises!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:44:45pm

Rachel Maddow was on The View yesterday.

Meghan McCain Asks Rachel Maddow If She Knows Why Fox News Is So Much Better Than Anything She’ll Ever Do (Goes to Wonkette)

Predictably, Meghan McCain’s assertion did not go well for her. (Includes video clip, 4:30)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:48:29pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

Are you suggesting people were getting it on at the Y’s pool, or is this some sort of different incident?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:48:39pm

re: #31 i(m)p(each)sos

I wouldn’t even spend the hundred bucks on an SM58 yet, then. You can get cheap knockoffs for 25 or 30 bucks (Samson, Pyle, A-T) and run them into a guitar amp or a cheap vocal amp if all they need now is some PA to be heard over the guitar and drums. Again, call up Sweetwater and they won’t oversell you if you explain what’s needed.

That’s how my high school garage band did it at first. Then we got a—ok, I wasn’t the guy who hooked stuff up, so I don’t know what to call it—small two-mic box to run two cheap speakers. When we started renting a ballroom for gigs we decided not to buy our own gear (which we couldn’t afford anyway) but rent and pay a sound guy. Fortunately, we had connections in the local music scene and got some good deals on professional stuff.

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:49:46pm

re: #14 Barefoot Grin

Today my 15yo asked if I could pick up some CDs that he requested through our local little library (meaning that they all came from other libraries in the network). I got there to find that he had ordered 63 CDs. The librarian let me spread them out between mine and my wife’s accounts, then overrode the system to allow me to check out the remainder. I think he’s just going to do a marathon download to his computer. But it’s an impressive range: lots of Dylan, but also Stevie Wonder and Earth, Wind, and Fire. Ornette Coleman, but also the earliest Replacements stuff. A bunch of Coltrane and Monk, but also Joy Division. He’s a super talented clarinetist, but I’ve been encouraging him to take up sax, too, because that’s the only way he can play in the school jazz band. So far, he wants to focus just on clarinet.

Get him to check out Don Byron’s CD “Bug Music”. It’s frantic jazz which we all know from 60’s cartoons, but hails from the thirties. Byron is a magnificent clarinet player and the band he built around him is killer bee.

The album includes Raymond Scott (who invented many of the modern electronics still in use today, a musical and electronic legend- wiki him!), Bill Kirby, and Duke Ellington. I saw his band live fifteen or so years ago at UT, and they were tight as a tick. Great show.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:50:45pm

re: #53 austin_blue

Get him to check out Don Byron’s CD “Bug Music”. It’s frantic jazz which we all know from 60’s cartoons, but hails from the thirties. Byron is a magnificent clarinet player and the band he built around him is killer bee.

The album includes Raymond Scott (who invented many of the modern electronics still in use today, a musical and electronic legend- wiki him!), Bill Kirby, and Duke Ellington. I saw his band live fifteen or so years ago at UT, and they were tight as a tick. Great show.

Thank you!

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Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:52:33pm

re: #10 I Would Prefer Not To

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I’m going to Hell for laughing at that, I just know it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:56:50pm

re: #48 makeitstop

Dunno if anyone’s posted this here yet, but it’s haunting. Chernobyl 2019, by drone.

Video

That’s a pretty interesting video. Because of the exclusion zone around the nuclear power plant, there are almost no people living within it. As such you can see that there is almost no vandalism in Chernobyl City (contrast that to the Packard plant in Detroit).

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2019 • 9:59:18pm

re: #49 Barefoot Grin

Heh, Mollie Hemingway was on Fox tonight saying that the Volker testimony DESTROYED the Democrats’ impeachment premises!

This is what we face daily: Trumpsters lying to their audience and the viewers regurgitating these lies. The viewers are never going to read a detailed analysis such as that produced by Heath Mayo. The Senate and House Republicans, whatever some may say in private, are publicly still all in on Trump, except for Mitt with his Collins imitation. We need to purge this entire administration, sooner rather than later in order to have any chance of recovering from the damage the Trump-McConnell axis of evil have inflicted upon our nation.

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:02:30pm

re: #48 makeitstop

Dunno if anyone’s posted this here yet, but it’s haunting. Chernobyl 2019, by drone.

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Video

That’s Pripyat, which is just north of Chernobyl and was abandoned. The entire area north of Chernobyl has be become a “park” of a very strange kind. It’s an exclusion zone. It is by no means a dead zone. Foliage has grown into almost all of the buildings, and there is a population of Przewalski horses (an ancient Asian lineage) rebuilding a breeding cohort there.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:09:54pm

re: #48 makeitstop

Dunno if anyone’s posted this here yet, but it’s haunting. Chernobyl 2019, by drone.

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Video

Intriguing. Certain plant life seems to be flourishing in the absence of humans. It would have been interesting to have comparisons of the town before the catastrophe.

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plansbandc  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:15:38pm

Off topic. I know. How rare for me. :D

Just hit the first episode of “Call The Midwife” Where Thalidomide is used.

I don’t know if I’m gonna be able to watch what happens next.

Thank God Frances Oldham Kelsey would not allow Thalidomide to be OKed for use in the United States. She saved so many lives. Everyone should know her story.

Thalidomide use would have been at it’s peak when my mother was having us kids.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:18:40pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

Orwell warned us…

Deep Blue Sea warned us.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:21:43pm

A Poem

I just remembered that I bought a mini-box of box wine
because I knew that when I got high I would wonder if I had
bought a mini-box of box wine

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plansbandc  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:31:03pm

re: #62 Barefoot Grin

Your poem’s beauty

Has brought a bountiful tear

To my one good eye.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:34:44pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:39:52pm

I’m going to bed now, promise.

But I’m rediscovering my love for Paul Kelly. Night, all:

PAUL KELLY - Somewhere In The City

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:41:20pm

re: #64 Belafon

Folks tried to get #ElizabethCougarWarrencamp trending but that failed. Some viral marketing programme. /s

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:48:08pm

re: #62 Barefoot Grin

A Poem

I just remembered that I bought a mini-box of box wine
because I knew that when I got high I would wonder if I had
bought a mini-box of box wine

Beautiful. Möbius poetry.

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:52:33pm

re: #62 Barefoot Grin

A Poem

I just remembered that I bought a mini-box of box wine
because I knew that when I got high I would wonder if I had
bought a mini-box of box wine

That’s deep.

And I’m off to bed. Another Friday news dump tomorrow! Flop sweat and derp in full display. Huzzah!

It’s like when I lived in an old house in New Orleans when I was in in college and turned on the kitchen light at night and the tree roaches (big fuckers) all froze for a second and then scuttled for cover. That’s where this admin is right now. Panic. No plan. That’s where the R’s are right now. They don’t know whether to shit, piss, or go blind. They just know they need to scuttle out of the light. Like cockroaches.

Suffer, you losers, suffer for your sins and how you backed this pulsating bag of puss for the last three years. This maggot, this fuckwit, this shit stain.

Suffer and lose your power.

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Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:54:31pm

Hope everyone is well! Just wanted to say hi to all the little green footballers out there! Life has been crazy, but maybe an end to the fever dream is finally near.

I’ll try not to be quite a stranger. :)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 10:58:20pm

re: #69 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All

Hope everyone is well! Just wanted to say hi to all the little green footballers out there! Life has been crazy, but maybe an end to the fever dream is finally near.

I’ll try not to be quite a stranger. :)

Hi!

Your words to God’s impeachment inquiry. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 11:04:52pm

Florida woman arrested with an arsenal of weaponry. Also, a copy of “The Turner Diaries,” not illegal but gives her mindset.

cbsnews.com (video, 1:37)

The police say the weapons were sufficient to kill thousands of people.

There were over two dozen completed pipe bombs and an arsenal of semi-automatic rifles. She also had a bunch of books on terrorism, mass murder, &c.

Her parents turned her in. The arrest was made earlier this evening. The parents are claiming she’s undergoing mental health treatment. (yawn).

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plansbandc  Oct 4, 2019 • 11:06:54pm

Social media
Forever might be done now
In shitty Haikus.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 4, 2019 • 11:07:22pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 11:10:14pm

re: #72 plansbandc

Social media
Forever might be done now
In shitty Haikus.

That would probably improve most social media sites.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 11:13:00pm

Col Morris Davis:

I was blacklisted at CNN and MSNBC since the summer of 2015 when I criticized them normalizing Donald Trump, but saying “I warned them!” is like standing on the deck of the Titanic and yelling at the other victims “I told the Captain to slow down and lookout for icebergs!”

(via Twitter, thread, three tweets)

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plansbandc  Oct 4, 2019 • 11:15:57pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🎃

There may soon be a
Ridiculous new twitter
Haikuing all things.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 11:20:39pm

re: #76 plansbandc

There may soon be a
Ridiculous new twitter
Haikuing all things.

See #haiku and #HaikuChallenge

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 4, 2019 • 11:29:10pm

re: #73 Dread Pirate

[Embedded content]

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 11:34:01pm

Breakdown of the percentages by religious faith of people with post-graduate degrees.
pewforum.org

Religious “nones” (the PC term for non-believers) are the largest individual group at 24%.

The Pew Research survey also breaks down other questions of people with post-graduate degrees, such as “is scripture the word of God” (about half say “no” and the rest are split between such as literal, metaphorical, &c); guidance on right and wrong (the overwhelming majority suggest philosophy, common sense or science, with only about a quarter saying “religion,” &c.)

pewforum.org

This shows the opposite end of the scale: Those who have high school educations or less being very religious. A majority of JW’s fit in that category, but Catholics and Evangelical Protestants are nearly half.

(My wife puts me in the “some college” category due to my Navy schooling, but that’s just my wife trying to prop up my ego to make me feel better.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 4, 2019 • 11:53:15pm

With 2020 on the Horizon, Is It Safe to Hope Again? (Goes to Glamour Magazine)

With the president of the United States at last facing consequences and a woman on the rise in the polls, writer Molly Jong-Fast feels…almost cheerful?
By Molly Jong-Fast

Around 6 a.m. on November 9, 2016, I went into my nine-year-old daughter’s bedroom and sat at the foot of her bed, weeping while I watched her sleep. I’m not a person who cries a lot. And if I do, I tend to be both furious and alone. But that morning, all bets were off.

Looking at my daughter in her little bed with her little stuffed bunny, brown hair covering her face, I knew I had failed her. We betrayed our daughters (and sons), allowing a dimwitted reality television host with a raft of sexual assault allegations against him to win the White House. My three kids had been worried about the possibility of a Donald Trump presidency since he descended that golden escalator, but I had soothed them. It could never happen, I said. Totally sure of myself.

I had to wake them up and admit I’d been wrong. That things aren’t fair. That when powerful men are involved, sometimes there are no consequences for bad behavior.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:09:45am

How Gavin McInnes Went from Vice to the Far Right (goes to Los Angeles Magazine, they don’t seem to have Cletus Safaris, they go right to the Head Cletuses).

Wholly crap, who writes this tripe? It reads like a bad erotic Romance novel I would send back and say “rewrite the whole thing. Better yet, burn it.”

The lede of the article:

I enjoy Talking to Gavin McInnes even all these years later—after he called single motherhood “child abuse” and said feminism makes women ugly; after insisting trans people are “gender n*****s”; after he called Muslims “shoeless, toothless, inbred, hill-dwelling, rifle-toting, sodomy-prone men.” Talking to him late one afternoon last November, a few days after he stepped down from the Proud Boys—the “Western Chauvinist” men’s club he founded in 2016—felt both invigorating and dangerous, like knowingly touching a live wire. I was afraid of him, but I wanted, in a twisted way, for him to like me, the way you want your bully to like you. Like all good narcissists, McInnes is charming and funny when he’s not being awful. It’s his modus operandi: to disarm you with humor, provoke, and then deflect. It has been his schtick for 20 years, going back to when he was cofounder and editor of Vice, the chief architect of a culture born in the after-hours joints of the East Village and Williamsburg. His jokes haven’t changed, but the world has.

(more, and LGF will remove the N-word from the post here but I assure you they wrote it out in the original article)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:37:48am

The press misrepresenting both atheists and the Freedom from Religion Foundation. FFRF is not “an atheist group”—it supports separation of church and state. Much of its membership are Christians who also oppose the encroachment of churches on government.

The whole frickin’ media is characterising FFRF this way, as seen in USA Today’s headline:

Atheist group says Texas judge ‘crossed the line’ when she handed a Bible to Amber Guyger

With in-line notations of mischaracterisations by me, from the lede:

A national atheist group [Fact Check: False] has filed a formal complaint with the state of Texas after a judge in a Dallas court gave a Bible to former police officer Amber Guyger who was convicted of murdering her neighbor.

The gesture [Fact Check: Not a gesture, proselytisation] by Texas District Judge Tammy Kemp, who also suggested the Bible could change Guyger’s life [Fact Check: False, she’s already a Christian], came at the end of an emotional sentencing hearing this week. Guyger received a 10-year prison sentence for fatally shooting Botham Jean, an unarmed man in a Dallas apartment she had mistaken for her own.

Kemp left the bench to approach and hug the tearful Guyger, handing her what she said was one of the personal Bibles she used every day.

“This is your job for the next month,” Kemp told Guyger. “It says right here. John 3:16. And this is where you start. ‘For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life …’ [citation outside the Bible needed, and that won’t bring Mr. Jean back you amazing douchecanoe]”

(more at USA Today)

FFRF is right to sue. This is a blatant violation of the I Amendment inserting personal religious views into a criminal trial as an official of the state.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:48:26am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’d also note any time the FFRF brings a suit or complaint for Christian overreach into governmental activity, the media will always write something along the lines of “the Wisconsin-based group” (shades of “outside agitators” from Jim Crow). USA Today (and every other article I’ve read about this so far) does not fail to disappoint in this area.

When the NRA comes in to lobby against a law or file a lawsuit, no media outlet ever characterises them as “the New York-based group.” The same goes for the endless parade of Christian hate groups like Focus on the Family when they bring suits or come up in the news (no one ever writes “the Colorado-based group.”)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:02:12am

From the featured video:

I have to admit I didn’t even like the original version of this song, but Jacob takes it to an entirely different universe.

I’m sorry, Mr. Johnson, I could only get eighty-eight seconds into that video before my ears started peeling.

I like the Lionel Richie original much better. (3:48) I suppose you could sue me or something. /s

Lionel Richie - All Night Long (All Night) (Official Music Video)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:20:09am

Winter has arrived. It’s official: The National Weather Service ordered up a snowstorm for us Wednesday and Thursday.

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Lani  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:24:28am

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹🎃

With 2020 on the Horizon, Is It Safe to Hope Again? (Goes to Glamour Magazine)

With the president of the United States at last facing consequences and a woman on the rise in the polls, writer Molly Jong-Fast feels…almost cheerful?
By Molly Jong-Fast

(more)

That’s how I felt. “I’d dreamed that I would see a woman elected president, and I worried that we had convinced an entire generation of men and women that a female president was unelectable.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:32:52am

re: #86 Lani

That’s how I felt. “I’d dreamed that I would see a woman elected president, and I worried that we had convinced an entire generation of men and women that a female president was unelectable.”

I’m not so much concerned about electing a woman President, though it’s long-past time one was. (Inevitably a parade of people will claim that folks voted for her because she was a woman, just like they did with Hillary Clinton, or voted for an African-American because he is one, like Barack Obama.)

There was no question Hillary Clinton was prepared for the job, and that’s why she got my vote.

There are two women running now I definitely wouldn’t want as the Democratic candidate (Williamson and Gabbard, though to be fair to Gabbard, she does understand how government works).

I wouldn’t vote for any of the women running in the Democratic primary because they are women though, I would vote for one of them because I think she is the best candidate to put forward.

At the moment, none of the men running have really impressed me a whole lot. (Steve Bullock is a good example who fortunately dropped out. A lonely state of Montana cries out for you to run for Steve Daines’s seat.)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:48:36am

(Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

Here’s how old each of the 2020 candidates will be on Inauguration Day 2021

Everyone who is still in the race in both parties.

The hospitalization of 78-year-old Bernie Sanders to treat a blocked artery in his heart ensures that the question of how old is too old to be president moves to the forefront of the Democratic contest.

Here’s a look at the ages of all of the candidates for president (from both parties) and how old each will be when they would be sworn in on Inauguration Day, Jan. 20, 2021[.]

Senator Bernie Sanders would be the oldest at seventy-nine, the youngest would be Mayor Pete Buttigieg at thirty-nine.

Donald Trump weighs in at fourth place (seventy-four), behind Bill Weld (seventy-five) and Joe Biden (seventy-eight).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:02:19am

In my E-mail from a local wag when we were discussing my reëlection loss last year.

Always remember the four laws of local government voter attitudes:
1—I want everything.
2—I want it now.
3—I want it for free.
4—If it is not free, I want somebody else to pay for it.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:09:00am
Today we’re sharing that we’ve recently seen significant cyber activity by a threat group we call Phosphorus, which we believe originates from Iran and is linked to the Iranian government. We’re sharing this for two reasons. First, it is important that we all - governments and private sector - are increasingly transparent about nation-state attacks and efforts to disrupt democratic processes. Second, while we have processes to notify customers about nation state activity and have AccountGuard to monitor accounts of campaigns and other associated organizations related to election processes in democracies around the world, publishing this information should help others be more vigilant and take steps to protect themselves.

In a 30-day period between August and September, the Microsoft Threat Intelligence Center (MSTIC) observed Phosphorus making more than 2,700 attempts to identify consumer email accounts belonging to specific Microsoft customers and then attack 241 of those accounts. The targeted accounts are associated with a U.S. presidential campaign, current and former U.S. government officials, journalists covering global politics and prominent Iranians living outside Iran. Four accounts were compromised as a result of these attempts; these four accounts were not associated with the U.S. presidential campaign or current and former U.S. government officials. Microsoft has notified the customers related to these investigations and threats and has worked as requested with those whose accounts were compromised to secure them.

(more)

blogs.microsoft.com

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Dread Pirate  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:26:49am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:26:50am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Essentially what Microsoft is offering is free monitoring service. What they’re offering is:

Participation is offered on a non-partisan basis and by invitation only. Organizations eligible to participate include:

US-based political campaigns at the federal, state, tribal or local level
US-based political party committee at the national or state level
US-based think tanks and democracy advocacy organizations
US-based political technology vendors; and
Select individuals (with outlook.com and hotmail.com personal emails) invited to participate by an eligible organization listed above.

The requirement is to send in your E-mail address, to which they respond with an application form concerning what group you belong to or if you are a politician.

They are also offering the same services in other democracies.

For the US you can apply here:
microsoftaccountguard.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:56:01am

We All Owe Monica Lewinsky an Apology (Goes to Playboy)

I remember no one in the ’90s—utterly no one—bestowing compassion to Lewinsky, even in private. I don’t recall anyone bringing up the distressing, gross power-dynamic in her and Clinton’s sexual relationship—as she was an intern and he was the fucking President of the United States. There was no larger conversation around the dinner table about how men in positions of power often take advantage of, control, and rape young women, just because they can. Mr. Clinton then, somehow, became a martyr for the universal angry, white man who had cheated and been “found out” by his significant other. And women spewed hatred toward Monica, too, misdirecting rage and despair over the affairs of their boyfriends and husbands onto Lewinsky, who, before the scandal, was a truly encouraging, fresh figure in politics and, really, a model of what all parents should want concerning their daughters.

(more)

Monica Lewinsky will be appearing on the Today show on NBC October 16 to discuss her anti-bullying campaign. For those with television sets, that should be a must-watch; she is smart as a whip and funny.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:56:16am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:11:07am

Running across Twitter right now is an alleged post by Monica Lewinsky that apparently the only way to get Republicans to go through with an impeachment:

“I’m willing to take one for the team and give Trump a blowjob in the Oval office. Apparently that’s the only thing that can convince Republicans to impeach”.

The tweet was faked; it was never on her account.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:12:13am

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🎃

snopes.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:04:14am

Wow, I really killed off this thread. Okay, I’ll meander along myself …

I’m listening to the climate summary right now from the National Weather Service radio station for our area.

We’ve had 17” of rain so far this year, which is 4” above normal.

It’s amazing how much flooding 4” spread over nine months can cause.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:10:36am

It is considerably colder at lower elevations in the region.

Where I live, 3,600’ above sea level, temperatures are in the mid-thirties. Towns at higher elevations (Scottsbluff, Chadron, and Torrington, Wyo.) the temperatures are in the mid-forties.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:12:22am

Prepare for incoming

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:18:45am

(tap tap is this thing on?)

All Windows startup sounds and screens from Version 1.01 to Version 7 (9:38)

All Windows Startup And Shutdown Sounds.wmv

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:19:42am

re: #99 Dave In Austin

Prepare for incoming

I hope “getting back to work” means “returning to the Senate.”

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mmmirele  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:21:10am

re: #86 Lani

That’s how I felt. “I’d dreamed that I would see a woman elected president, and I worried that we had convinced an entire generation of men and women that a female president was unelectable.”

I had a new manager at work ask me if I thought we’d elect a woman president. My response was: “I’d really like to elect a woman president in my lifetime.” His reaction: “YESSSS!”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:27:50am

My computer just put up a begging notification saying it needs updates. Checking Windows Update says my computer is in use most often from 2100 to 0700 MST.

It’s after 0700 here … is it going to force me into an update?

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mmmirele  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:28:42am

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🎃

(tap tap is this thing on?)

All Windows startup sounds and screens from Version 1.01 to Version 7 (9:38)

[Embedded content]

Video

If I wasn’t awake before, I am now. That first TA-DA! after nearly a minute of video nearly made me jump out of my skin.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:29:45am

re: #104 mmmirele

If I wasn’t awake before, I am now. That first TA-DA! after nearly a minute of video nearly made me jump out of my skin.

LOL. I much prefer the more quiet version of a start-up my Commodore 64 gave.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:35:17am

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🎃

(tap tap is this thing on?)

All Windows startup sounds and screens from Version 1.01 to Version 7 (9:38)

[Embedded content]

Macintosh Startup Sound History - Bring Back the Bong! (RIP 1984-2016)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:37:03am

Holy crap, I just watched a video by YouTuber Godless Engineer and his wife KC taking apart a “speaking in tongues” bit from Pentecostal pastor Perry Stone (he is rather well-known amongst Pentecostals and has a show on the Trinity Broadcasting Network).

I passed on posting it here because: Too much making fun of this guy calling it in (he actually checks his cell phone several times during the broadcast), extremely coarse language, adult concepts, a person who looks like a waiter who actually comes in and wipes down his table whilst he’s doing his bit, &c.

Poor KC was practically dying of laughter during the video.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:41:11am

Gotta watch with sound on:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:44:47am

re: #108 Barefoot Grin

Gotta watch with sound on:

Ha! That was hilarious.

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jeffreyw  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:52:46am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:54:31am

Senator Ben Sasse remembered he’s a never Trumper. He still had to both-sides it though.

‘Americans don’t look to Chinese commies for the truth’: Sasse decries Trump’s call for probe (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

WASHINGTON — Sen. Ben Sasse, R-Neb., took issue Thursday with President Donald Trump urging China to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son’s business dealings there.

“Hold up: Americans don’t look to Chinese commies for the truth,” Sasse said in a written statement to The World-Herald. “If the Biden kid broke laws by selling his name to Beijing, that’s a matter for American courts, not communist tyrants running torture camps.”

At the same time, Sasse also offered harsh words for Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. During a hearing last week, Schiff referred to the rough transcript of a phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Schiff presented “the essence of what the president communicates” during the call and spoke as if he were Trump asking Zelensky to manufacture dirt on his political opponent.

(more)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:55:35am

This new iOS release is a piece of shit

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:56:27am

Shocked, shocked I say

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makeitstop  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:56:38am

Heh.

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:03:06am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Trump had threatened to pull out of the UPU as part of his trade war with China, since the UPU allows China to ship small packages to the U.S. at a discounted rate, a policy designed to help developing countries that Trump wanted to see changed. Instead of letting the U.S. withdraw, the union reached a deal with the Trump administration that will enable the U.S. to begin setting its own postal rates next July. Other countries with high international mail volume will be able to phase in higher rates starting in 2021.

Charlie Pierce so agrees with you: Mitt Romney Is the Perfect Man for the Job, Until He’s Not

[This goes to his weekly subscription column, so may not be publicly available.]

Sooner or later, some Republican of actual consequence is going to cut himself loose from the plague ship that is this administration*. It will be trumpeted as politically courageous—which, in fact, it will be, increasingly so as long as the madness continues unabated. But waiting for Mitt Romney to do it is, I believe, doomed and futile. He is the perfect one for the job but, as those of us who know him well will tell you, he’s at his worst when he’s perfect.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:03:09am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:03:41am

re: #112 Dave In Austin

This new iOS release is a piece of shit

Tech tip: Never buy or deploy the first release of anything. Customers are the ultimate beta testers.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:05:18am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The rest of the article goes on to say that Sen. Deb Fischer (R) is trying to focus on farm policy and ignore everything else going on about Trump (she was one of his first endorsers in the Senate), Sen. Ben Sasse says Rep. Adam Schiff is running a “clown show” in the House.

On the House side, my rep Adrian Smith (R-NE3) says “impeachment is a distraction from important issues and Congress needs less drama and more work” (like it gets in the way of Republicans subverting our democracy in the name of capitalist captains-of-industry apparently). Rep. Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE1, Lincoln area) says the Justice Department has found no violation of the law. Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE2, Omaha area) says the President has broken no laws and will vote against impeachment (nice presuppositional apologetics there Rep. Bacon without seeing what the charges or evidence are) and blames Democrats for trying to get foreigners to interfere in our elections citing a letter sent in 2016 (which Republicans also signed but he nor the paper mentions) that chastised Ukraine over dropping prosecutions, and demanding Republicans have “more rights.”

Good to see none of them can get on the same page.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:06:32am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:08:16am
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A Cranky One  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:08:20am

re: #24 Belafon

Just to let everyone know, I don’t think they’re up to thinking about recording yet. They’re experimenting, playing on instruments they don’t otherwise get to play on (my son, the keyboardist, is a percussionist in band; the sax player plays the flute; the bass play played cello; and the drummer and electric players aren’t in music at school). It’s also an excuse to get together so their moms will let them hang out. But they’re wanting to do a little performing, and would like a couple of mics. I’m not sure when they’re going to want to think about recording.

I’ve read a lot of your suggestions, and am bookmarking various things.

Here is a fairly cheap possibility. I think it only comes with one mic, but won’t break the bank, especially if it ends up not being used for long.

parts-express.com

Here is a list of mics from the same company. Some are fairly inexpensive and may be suitable for your application:

parts-express.com

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steve_davis  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:08:59am

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

Classic “Caddy Shack” doodie in pool- Hilarious!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:09:28am

re: #115 retired cynic

LOL (from that article):

He has as secure a Senate seat as there is; he can hold that seat for two terms after he’s dead.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:13:02am

Good thread. The WSJ is doing some great journalism.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:14:35am

re: #117 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I know that but it auto-screwed me.

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MsJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:22:19am

re: #112 Dave In Austin

This new iOS release is a piece of shit

No shit. I can’t figure out how to do some basic shit like finding words on a page or inserting letters when something was misspelled as in some instances it simple won’t allow it.

I hate this latest release.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:28:44am

re: #125 Dave In Austin

I know that but it auto-screwed me.

I got a notification to upgrade a week or so, and tried it. The installation failed. I guess I was lucky.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:28:54am

I’m going to log out. Y’all are probably tired of me for now anyway. /s

It’s late (early), my computer is still whinging about wanting an update, and it’s rum o’clock before bed.

Catch y’all later.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:29:24am

re: #110 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Wer burbs?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:33:33am

I remember the one late night/early morning my well established buzz was ruined by the blank gaze of the guy staring down at me from the Broadway & 31st St RR/R station, and the ‘not’ water dripping down.
And for weeks after the red-brown stained strip of denim that was left plastered to the top of one of the track ties would remind me.

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jeffreyw  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:34:58am

re: #129 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Wer burbs?

I wish I knew!

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mmmirele  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:41:00am

re: #112 Dave In Austin

This new iOS release is a piece of shit

I keep getting emails at least once a week at work telling us not to install it on our work issued phones.

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MsJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:50:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:54:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:55:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:57:00am

moron is mad at mitt

pompous “ass”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:57:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:59:17am
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Jay C  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:03:38am

re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Unf*ck*ngbelievable! (or would be for any US Administration other than the idiot Trump regime)

The Attorney General of The United States is spending wasting government time and money jetting around the world trying to clear the Russians from charges of interfering in the 2016 election? Or worse, pin said charges of interference on Trump’s political enemies??

That they have not found anything after five months of “investigation” is telling, but leaves the question open of exactly why:

1. There IS nothing to “find” (outside of the original Mueller Report conclusions that Russia DID meddle in the election in one way or another).
2. The “probe” has turned up evidence that Point 1 is correct.
3. Trump, Barr and their creatures haven’t found any “exculpatory” evidence and are still waiting to dig some up.

Or more-likely:

4. Trump, Barr and their creatures haven’t found any “exculpatory” evidence and are waiting until they can fabricate some.

Utterly damn disgraceful in any case.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:03:39am

re: #121 A Cranky One

Here is a fairly cheap possibility. I think it only comes with one mic, but won’t break the bank, especially if it ends up not being used for long.

parts-express.com

Here is a list of mics from the same company. Some are fairly inexpensive and may be suitable for your application:

parts-express.com

That stuff looks a little too cheap to last very long in a garage/basement full of teenage kids playing rock band. The Shure SM58 became the standard not because it sounds wonderful but because it’s indestructible. Again, you don’t need an actual $100 SM58 for this… but you want a knockoff with a decent cast metal body, at least. These look like plastic.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:07:52am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:08:59am

re: #141 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Not high crimes just plain treason.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:16:58am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:17:50am

The Republicans are fixating on the part of the phrase ‘…high crimes…” Like there is a special area of the law that defines exactly how high a crime needs to be too meet that threshold. And soliciting assistance from a foreign adversary is not that, according to them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:19:28am

re: #144 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The Republicans are fixating on the part of the phrase ‘…high crimes…” Like there is a special area of the law that defines exactly how high a crime needs to be too meet that threshold. And soliciting assistance from a foreign adversary is not that, according to them.

The fundamental mistake they’re making is that they think they get to define the rules. News flash, Republicans: You don’t.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:19:33am

Last item then I’m really out:

Tucker Carlson: Brett Kavanaugh Backlash is Due to a “Theocracy Run By Atheists” (Goes to Hemant Mehta’s blog The Friendly Atheist)

TL;DR: Tucker Carlson appeared on Dana Perino’s show to claim atheist “theocracy” is attacking Brett Kavanaugh over an alleged sexual assault in high school.

His argument goes like this: A Christian theocracy would probably involve conservatives punishing people for acts they deem immoral… therefore liberals going after the conservative Kavanaugh for anything he did in high school amounts to a “theocracy run by atheists.”

If that makes no sense to you… well, now you know what it’s like to watch FOX News.

(more at the link)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:19:46am

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well the words “give me information or I kill you” were never uttered, so no crime..,,

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:21:22am

re: #147 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Well the words “give me information or I kill you” were never uttered, so no crime..,,

After all, he didn’t shoot Zelensky on Fifth Avenue.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:30:04am

re: #141 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Shut up David Duke wannabe.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:35:04am

Even if you are deluded enough to think the Ukraine thing is a nothing burger. We all saw him call for China to investigate the Bidens. I don’t care what excuses people like Marco Rubio make. The President should never do something like that even to “goat” the media but maybe Rubio would feel better if his family was investigated by the Cuban one but unlike Rubio, I’m not a hack who thinks having Americans investigated by autocratic regimes is acceptable.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:39:09am

What infuriates me is so much of what Trump does is just shrugged off. Meanwhile Obama had to be fucking perfect.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:42:46am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

What infuriates me is so much of what Trump does is just shrugged off. Meanwhile Obama had to be fucking perfect.

Hence the origin of the phrase, “It’s OK if you’re a Republican.”

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:44:52am

Imagine the cowardice of worrying that the ass in the WH will call you an ass.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:45:53am

re: #152 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Hence the origin of the phrase, “It’s OK if you’re a Republican.”

Yep. I’m trying to imagine the response if Obama did anything what close to this piece of crap does on a daily basis.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:47:15am

re: #153 jaunte

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Imagine the cowardice of worrying that the ass in the WH will call you an ass.

Well it’s their own fault. They could have calmed their base instead of pandering to their fears after Obama got elected. The way the American right treated Obama shouldn’t be forgotten nor forgiven.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:48:38am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Every time they had a choice to make, they took the easy, short term choice.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:49:48am

re: #156 jaunte

Every time they had a choice to make, they took the easy, short term choice.

Yep and it’s why they’re eventually going to lose Texas. And if they lose Texas, they’re fucked even if the Rust Belt starts to favor them more.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:51:05am

Trump continues to do Putin’s bidding.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:52:57am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Well it’s their own fault. They could have calmed their base instead of pandering to their fears after Obama got elected. The way the American right treated Obama shouldn’t be forgotten nor forgiven.

They deliberately and maliciously inflamed the fears — as well as manufacturing additional fears for having a black man in the White House. The American right has allied itself with the worst of racism — and that has been true since the 1950’s and the heyday of William Buckley.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:53:54am

re: #158 jaunte

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Trump continues to do Putin’s bidding.

Not just Trump. The entire Republican party, led by Moscow Mitch.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:56:10am

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

They deliberately and maliciously inflamed the fears — as well as manufacturing additional fears for having a black man in the White House. The American right has allied itself with the worst of racism — and that has been true since the 1950’s and the heyday of William Buckley.

Yep. Frankly if you ask me, the Republican Party has with a few exceptions been on a steady decline since Lincoln died. There’s been a few exceptions like Ike, TR, & others but the Republican Party has stood in the way of progress repeatedly.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:58:45am
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sagehen  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:01:21am

re: #124 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Good thread. The WSJ is doing some great journalism.

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WSJ and Bloomberg, their editorials page reflects the political views of their ownership.

But for straight news, they can’t afford to be anything other than accurate, timely and insightful. They have a very specific readership who just won’t put up with anything else. The money this audience makes from knowing what’s really happening (or will soon happen) dwarfs any ideological preference for confirmation bias.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:01:24am

Mike Pompeo’s sacrifice of our nation’s interests to Trump and Putin really astounds me. He graduated first in his class at West Point, he served in the military, he was the CIA director under Trump, he had his law degree from Harvard. This is a sterling record — how could he have compromised himself and our nation to such an extent? Is it just, as Rick Wilson framed it, ETTD?

Edited: for grammar

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:02:49am

re: #164 Hecuba’s daughter

It may be that we are too ready to ascribe ethical behavior to someone with a good resume.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:03:23am

re: #164 Hecuba’s daughter

Mike Pompeo’s sacrifice of our nation’s interests to Trump and Putin really astound me. He graduation first in his class at West Point, he served in the military, he was the CIA director under Trump, he had his law degree from Harvard. This is a sterling record — how could he have compromised himself and our nation to such an extent? Is it just, as Rick Wilson framed it, ETTD?

He’s a religious zealot imo is what best explains Pompeo. Barr is a team GOP hack. That’s how I understand their motivations.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:04:17am

re: #165 jaunte

It may be that we are too ready to ascribe ethical behavior to someone with a good resume.

Indeed. Look at Kissinger. One of the most intellectually gifted public servants I’ve ever seen but I wouldn’t trust him with anything.

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lizardofid  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:04:56am

re: #164 Hecuba’s daughter

Mike Pompeo’s sacrifice of our nation’s interests to Trump and Putin really astound me. He graduation first in his class at West Point, he served in the military, he was the CIA director under Trump, he had his law degree from Harvard. This is a sterling record — how could he have compromised himself and our nation to such an extent? Is it just, as Rick Wilson framed it, ETTD?

Something to do with false prophets would be my guess.

Oh, hello everyone!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:12:35am

re: #166 HappyWarrior

He’s a religious zealot imo is what best explains Pompeo. Barr is a team GOP hack. That’s how I understand their motivations.

He’s a radical Dominionist Xtian who believes that the Rapture is coming at any second.

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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:13:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:17:28am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Mitt Romney is not a good person, and he isn’t going to save the Republican Party.

“Corporations are people, too, my friend!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:18:16am

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

I almost forgot. Those texts between Trump diplomats seeking dirt from Ukraine? They were sent not on State Dept email but on WhatsApp.

yeah, but they weren’t e-mails

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:20:50am

re: #169 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’s a radical Dominionist Xtian who believes that the Rapture is coming at any second.

Exactly. It’s his identity. Ironic isn’t it how they condemn identity politics when Pompeo and Pence both work for the Dominionist world view first.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:22:01am

re: #22 Belafon

How do you deal with knowing all of the creatures that live in other bodies of water doing the same thing and not shutting them down for cleaning?

Don’t drink water, fish fuck in it.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:27:22am

re: #47 sagehen

“I never drink water. Fish fuck in it.”
— WC Fields

Damn, beat me to it :-P

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garzooma  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:35:31am

re: #164 Hecuba’s daughter

Mike Pompeo’s sacrifice of our nation’s interests to Trump and Putin really astounds me. He graduated first in his class at West Point, he served in the military, he was the CIA director under Trump, he had his law degree from Harvard. This is a sterling record — how could he have compromised himself and our nation to such an extent?

Benedict Arnold had a sterling record, too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:37:12am
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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:39:49am

re: #176 garzooma

Benedict Arnold had a sterling record, too.

So did Robert E Lee!

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BigPapa  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:40:10am

re: #174 Eventual Carrion

Don’t drink water, fish fuck in it.

Wait, are you serious? This is quite disturbing.

Will have to stick to tequila until this gets sorted out.

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:41:03am

Boy, without all that urine-colored whipped hair around his head, it would be as tiny as his hands! From WaPo:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:42:05am

re: #178 retired cynic

So did Robert E Lee!

Related by marriage to Washington, Mexican American War hero, & former West Point superintendent but slavery came first.

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:43:03am

re: #180 retired cynic

Like Bluto!

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:44:40am

Holding Ukraine Hostage. So much for Volker’s self-serving accounts. Horrible. Just horrible. (WaPo)

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:49:30am

re: #183 retired cynic

Still reading about Sondland, and his role in all this. Should NOT have been appointed as ambassador to the EU, and then took control of Ukraine for the president*. Brrrr. So much in this article!

In Brussels, Sondland garnered a reputation for his truculent manner and fondness for the trappings of privilege. He peppered closed-door negotiations with four-letter words. He carried a wireless buzzer into meetings at the U.S. Mission that enabled him to silently summon support staff to refill his teacup.
Sondland seemed to chafe at the constraints of his assignment. He traveled for meetings in Israel, Romania and other countries with little or no coordination with other officials. He acquired a reputation for being indiscreet, and was chastised for using his personal phone for state business, officials said.
Sondland also shuttled repeatedly back to Washington, often seeking face time with Trump. When he couldn’t gain entry to the Oval Office, officials said, he would meet instead with White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, preferring someone closer to Trump’s inner circle than national security officials responsible for Europe.
“He always seemed to be in D.C.,” a former White House official said. “People would say, ‘Does he spend any time in Brussels?’ ”

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:54:46am

re: #184 retired cynic

Crony Government

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:55:00am

I’m genuinely struggling to think of a Trump appointee who isn’t balls to the walls awful. Maybe Powell at the Fed. Maybe.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:55:16am

re: #185 jaunte

Crony Government

Yep.

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:55:22am

re: #185 jaunte

Crony Government

Even worse: Criminal Crony Government

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:57:15am
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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:58:20am

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

They deliberately and maliciously inflamed the fears — as well as manufacturing additional fears for having a black man in the White House. The American right has allied itself with the worst of racism — and that has been true since the 1950’s and the heyday of William Buckley.

Well, no. Republicans and Democrats both passed the Civil Rights Act, and both had cohorts of bigots opposing them (more Democrats, though). They also rejected Goldwater pretty soundly. It was 1970 and later that the Southern Strategy and beyond turned them into a nest of racists and nativists.

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sagehen  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:14:46am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

I’m genuinely struggling to think of a Trump appointee who isn’t balls to the walls awful. Maybe Powell at the Fed. Maybe.

Of his 150 judicial nominees, at least a dozen (maybe even 2 dozen!!) are capable, competent, reasonable picks.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:19:51am

How a conservative dark-money group that targeted Hillary Clinton in 2016 spread the discredited story that may lead to Donald Trump’s impeachment.
By Jane Mayer

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:21:17am

Fucking Whisky Tide pods. The Macallan would NEVER engage in this kind of blasphemy!

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:22:05am

re: #189 jaunte

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:22:43am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Yep. I’m trying to imagine the response if Obama did anything what close to this piece of crap does on a daily basis.

Not Obama, but go nuts like this?

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:24:39am

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

Odd. I cannot see it being used for wine let alone scotch.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:24:59am

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

The Macallan would NEVER engage in this kind of blasphemy!

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Wow. That kind of sucks the fun out of drinking.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:25:06am
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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:27:22am

re: #198 goddamnedfrank

No point in aging the alcohol if that’s the plan.

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:28:28am

from NBC News via Charlie Pierce’s last Friday’s column:

The move by the CIA’s general counsel, Trump appointee Courtney Simmons Elwood, meant she and other senior officials had concluded a potential crime had been committed, raising more questions about why the Justice Department later closed the case without conducting an investigation. In the days since an anonymous whistleblower complaint was made public accusing him of wrongdoing, Trump has lashed out at his accuser and other insiders who provided the accuser with information, suggesting they were improperly spying on what was a “perfect” call between him and the Ukrainian president.
But a timeline provided by U.S. officials familiar with the matter shows that multiple senior government officials appointed by Trump found the whistleblower’s complaints credible, troubling, and worthy of further inquiry starting soon after the president’s July phone call. While that timeline and the CIA general counsel’s contact with the DOJ has been previously disclosed, it has not been reported that the CIA’s top lawyer intended her call to be a criminal referral about the president’s conduct, acting under rules set forth in a memo governing how intelligence agencies should report allegations of federal crimes.

my emphasis

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:37:43am
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DangerMan  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:38:49am

Responding to this (which of course is nonsense)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:39:49am
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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:39:58am

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

Fucking Whisky Tide pods. The Macallan would NEVER engage in this kind of blasphemy!

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:42:00am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:42:05am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:42:16am

re: #202 DangerMan

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Speaking of fake Never Trumpers. Ben Shapiro’s a great example

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stpaulbear  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:43:46am

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

The Macallan would NEVER engage in this kind of blasphemy!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:44:54am
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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:45:56am

re: #209 Charles Johnson

He’s as irresponsible now as he was in 2016.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:48:05am

re: #202 DangerMan

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So dedicated to dealing with corruption and rooting it out, he couldn’t answer a reporter when asked to name a single other person who he has asked other countries to look into besides Biden.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:48:19am

I say that because his late, lukewarm support for the Democratic candidate probably make a big difference in the outcome.

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:48:46am

re: #192 jaunte

This New Yorker article, as is usual with Jane Mayer, is IMPORTANT.

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stpaulbear  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:50:23am

re: #209 Charles Johnson

Anne Laurie’s take on Sanders over at Balloon Juice:

Don’t love the ‘Lady MacBeth’ memes, but Jane O’Meara Sanders grew up in a working-class Irish-American parish just a couple of years & a few miles from the one I grew up in. The (bitter) joke among my people was that they called us Harps because we could never stop playing over our grievances in public… and, all too often, this led to playing Heavenly harps of gold, because it’s a dangerous habit to get into.

Jane and Bernie seem to be, whatever their private lives, deeply committed business partners. Political observers have pointed out that this would be a very reasonable time for Bernie to nobly withdraw from the race, take his latest $25mil quarterly donation haul, and settle back to a new role as kingmaker for the remaining candidates to court. But if Jane feels like her guy is being told Go home old man, she’s only too likely to demand that he fight on, even if that should happen to kill him. I’m not proud to say this, but we Harps do love our warrior martyrs.

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DangerMan  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:00:50am

re: #211 Targetpractice

So dedicated to dealing with corruption and rooting it out, he couldn’t answer a reporter when asked to name a single other person who he has asked other countries to look into besides Biden.

Or whynhe just didn’t give the task to the FBI
Ormwhy hide the transcripts
Or
Or

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:02:20am

re: #192 jaunte

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How a conservative dark-money group that targeted Hillary Clinton in 2016 spread the discredited story that may lead to Donald Trump’s impeachment.
By Jane Mayer

I would love for it all get destroyed by this.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:07:53am

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

Fucking Whisky Tide pods. The Macallan would NEVER engage in this kind of blasphemy!

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Fucking Millenials, screwing everything up…wait, I’m a Millenial.

*sigh* On behalf of my generation, I once again apologize for this fuckery.

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BigPapa  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:14:21am

I want to state for the record, I had nothing to do with whiskey tide pods. Wasn’t me.

Glenlivet is like the Budweiser of scotches though. They do that with Lagavulin or Laphroig there will be murders.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:14:45am

re: #217 Targetpractice

That is okay. We know you personally had nothing to do with it. :)

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:21:56am

re: #218 BigPapa

I want to state for the record, I had nothing to do with whiskey tide pods. Wasn’t me.

Glenlivet is like the Budweiser of scotches though. They do that with Lagavulin or Laphroig there will be murders.

Maybe instead of seaweed they could formulate a pod made out of peat.

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BigPapa  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:23:31am

Might as well get my other scotch rankings established:

Dewar’s = Coors Light
Glenfiddich = Miller Light
Cutty Sark = Bud Light

Don’t @ me, these are the facts.

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mmmirele  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:24:15am

re: #169 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’s a radical Dominionist Xtian who believes that the Rapture is coming at any second.

I’m actually going to point out that these two things are contradictory.

The dominionists don’t actually believe Jesus is coming back Real Soon Now, with all the implications of the rapture, the mark of the beast, etc. In their minds, Jesus isn’t coming back until they have taken dominion. Then they will present that which they have taken dominion over to Jesus as a gift.

So while they talk about Jesus coming back*, it’s with a star*. It’s not until they’ve gotten dominion that Jesus will come back.

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Jay C  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:26:16am

re: #202 DangerMan

Actually, Trump has something of a point: “fighting corruption” probably will be a major factor in this country’s political dialogue going forward.

Though it’s unlikely he or his henchminions realize it will be the Trump Administration’s
corruption that’s going to be in the spotlight and on the firing line….

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lizardofid  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:27:04am

re: #220 Barefoot Grin

Maybe instead of seaweed they could formulate a pod made out of peat.

Or tiny little sheep stomachs.

(too far, right?)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:32:16am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:34:58am
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EPR-radar  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:36:04am

re: #222 mmmirele

I’m actually going to point out that these two things are contradictory.

The dominionists don’t actually believe Jesus is coming back Real Soon Now, with all the implications of the rapture, the mark of the beast, etc. In their minds, Jesus isn’t coming back until they have taken dominion. Then they will present that which they have taken dominion over to Jesus as a gift.

So while they talk about Jesus coming back*, it’s with a star*. It’s not until they’ve gotten dominion that Jesus will come back.

Why does this remind me of the communist idea that the state will conveniently wither away after the dictatorship of the proletariat is set up?

IMO these dominionists just want a dictatorship that they run, and to Hell, quite literally, with any idea of turning it over to Jesus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:36:04am

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:36:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:38:00am

my shocked face…

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:39:18am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:43:16am

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:44:00am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:45:06am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

my shocked face…

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:45:26am

This is a very good point. Remember all the Chinese businessmen who get called up on corruption?

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:46:30am

re: #231 Charles Johnson

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He really sounds like he’s enjoying being impeached, doesn’t he?

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:53:10am

re: #229 Charles Johnson

Leopold and Loeb

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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:54:15am

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:57:12am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:01:43pm

re: #238 Disloyal Archangel

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:02:35pm

re: #239 Charles Johnson

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In keeping with the theme of Trump as a dumb-man’s version of Nixon, we get a replay of the “They’re just sore over the election” defense. The idea being that if you win the election, then you’re somehow entitled to serve out your full term because “the people voted.” A total subversion of the intent of the Founders when they wrote impeachment into the Constitution as a measure to address a criminal presidency.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:05:41pm

Seriously amazing gymnast:

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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:07:10pm

re: #240 PhillyPretzel

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:07:41pm

re: #242 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Wow. That is something else.

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BigPapa  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:10:55pm

Biles is truly amazing. Gymnastics is hard enough and she’s pushing the limits.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:12:23pm

re: #243 Disloyal Archangel

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:13:20pm

re: #243 Disloyal Archangel

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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:15:54pm

re: #246 PhillyPretzel

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:17:57pm

re: #233 GlutenFreeJesus

ROFL

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:18:07pm

re: #248 Disloyal Archangel

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:19:44pm

moron is still mad at mitt

guessing that he’s not planning on counting on mitt for support during the impeachment trial when it gets to the Senate.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:21:37pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is still mad at mitt

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guessing that he’s not planning on counting on mitt for support during the impeachment trial when it gets to the Senate.

Romneybot hasn’t even really done much besides show less than total support for Donny and he’s already being raked over the coals. But the bar’s only going to get higher as time goes on, with anything less than total loyalty to the boss grounds for a verbal barrage.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:21:43pm

re: #235 Stanley Sea

This is a very good point. Remember all the Chinese businessmen who get called up on corruption?

MbS did this as a pretense to seize power. Saudi shieks were all corrupt so he had them arrested, some were killed and some forfieted their assets. Putin too. it’s an old tactic

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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:23:20pm

re: #250 PhillyPretzel

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:26:06pm

re: #253 gocart mozart

MbS did this as a pretense to seize power. Saudi shieks were all corrupt so he had them arrested, some were killed and some forfieted their assets. Putin too. it’s an old tactic

It’s a strongman tactic as old as the idea of laws and corruption. Identify your political rivals, accuse them of “corruption” that hurts “the people/state/etc,” then use such to justify their incarceration and/or execution. Some regimes might go through the trouble of holding show trials where the accused are informed of their “crimes,” “evidence” of such introduced to shock and horrify the onlookers, and persons scared shitless of standing in the docket brought in as “witnesses” to said “crimes,” before summary judgement is handed out. Others just skip to having them drug out into the street and shot to save on the paperwork.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:26:38pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is still mad at mitt

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guessing that he’s not planning on counting on mitt for support during the impeachment trial when it gets to the Senate.

LOL, Trump is going with the tainted jury defense by tainting the jury against him.

Interesting

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CleverToad  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:28:13pm

re: #238 Disloyal Archangel

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:29:48pm

Hmmmm, every 6 months my Mac Book Air dumps the backup drive Time Machine into the trash and starts anew…and then it takes a long time to complete an initial backup…

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:31:09pm

re: #254 Disloyal Archangel

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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:31:18pm

re: #247 Stanley Sea

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:31:55pm

Whaaaaaa!!!!

Show us YOUR server Donald!

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NetworkKed  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:34:21pm

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’ve touched hundreds of Windows 2003 servers and never heard that startup sound. Great OS, but no one ever hooked up speakers.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:34:44pm

re: #261 b.d. (It’s all true)

“One totally appropriate phone call.”

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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:34:52pm

re: #261 b.d. (It’s all true)

Whaaaaaa!!!!

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Show us YOUR server Donald!

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:35:08pm

re: #261 b.d. (It’s all true)

Whaaaaaa!!!!

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Show us YOUR server Donald!

And now we’re on to the “Whataboutisms.”

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:35:53pm

re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg

“One totally appropriate phone call.”

Didn’t it used to be a perfect phone call? Now it’s only appropriate?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:37:17pm

re: #261 b.d. (It’s all true)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:37:25pm

And We’re Offffff.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:37:52pm

He really does sound more and more like he just wants to stand on the White House lawn and scream “YEAH, I BROKE THE LAW! WHAT ARE YA GONNA DO ABOUT IT?!”

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:41:03pm

re: #269 Targetpractice

He really does sound more and more like he just wants to stand on the White House lawn and scream “YEAH, I BROKE THE LAW! WHAT ARE YA GONNA DO ABOUT IT?!”

That’s going to be the plan, I am sure that Jared won’t come up with anything better

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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:41:35pm

re: #259 PhillyPretzel

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Jay C  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:42:03pm

re: #268 Dave In Austin

And We’re Offffff.

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Mitt Romney supports ANTIFA!

Seriously, if true, the most positive thing I’ve ever heard about Mitt….

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NetworkKed  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:47:30pm

…I started writing a comment about how there’s got to be a limit on how much of this abuse any GOP senator can take before they decide to vote for conviction. And how showing he’s willing to go this route has to sour all of them on him.

But then I remembered that Republican senators are utterly craven and Trump owns their voters’ mindshare and there’s no hope for one-by-one conversion.

Best case is Trump gets too toxic, and they all commit to bailing out Pence instead. Pence could - as a middleman in some of these dealings - testify against Trump and get effective “immunity” from the R senate. Then they hurry-up nominate a new candidate for 2020.

We can hope, anyway.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:47:56pm

There was a wreck in town that we just passed. One of the cars involved had plates that read “MIST ME”. The answer is nope.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:50:10pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:50:26pm

re: #255 Targetpractice

It’s a strongman tactic as old as the idea of laws and corruption. Identify your political rivals, accuse them of “corruption” that hurts “the people/state/etc,” then use such to justify their incarceration and/or execution. Some regimes might go through the trouble of holding show trials where the accused are informed of their “crimes,” “evidence” of such introduced to shock and horrify the onlookers, and persons scared shitless of standing in the docket brought in as “witnesses” to said “crimes,” before summary judgement is handed out. Others just skip to having them drug out into the street and shot to save on the paperwork.

This was the central point of the conversation between Masha Gessen and Chris Hayes last night on Chris’s show. It’s exactly what Putin did, exactly what Stalin did. Of course one of the very first things Mao did 70 years ago was institute “anti-corruption” campaigns enabling the CCP to target and contain the business community and holdover bureaucrats. Don’t know if Trump comes to it naturally or has guidance—I’d say a little of both.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:51:00pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:52:28pm

So Iraq is going to shit fast & our state dept is searching for conspiracy theories.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:52:44pm

re: #261 b.d. (It’s all true)

So Crooked Hillary Clinton can delete and acid wash 33,000 emails AFTER getting a Subpoena from the United States Congress, but I can’t make one totally appropriate telephone call to the President of Ukraine? Witch Hunt!

BHEM defense

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:53:16pm

re: #275 Joe Bacon 🌹

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I don’t hold any illusions about how much pressure Mitch is under right now, both from the White House and Trump’s sycophants, to just dismiss the impeachment articles and declare that the Senate won’t even entertain them. Or that he won’t slowly move towards that position as the case against Trump grows even more damning.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:53:39pm

re: #279 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

BHEM defense

It’s not a D-fense.

It’s a fucking Z-fense.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:56:48pm
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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:59:06pm

re: #276 Barefoot Grin

This was the central point of the conversation between Masha Gessen and Chris Hayes last night on Chris’s show. It’s exactly what Putin did, exactly what Stalin did. Of course one of the very first things Mao did 70 years ago was institute “anti-corruption” campaigns enabling the CCP to target and contain the business community and holdover bureaucrats. Don’t know if Trump comes to it naturally or has guidance—I’d say a little of both.

Sounds like Bannon’s fingerprints.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 12:59:30pm

Anybody else notice that Brave Sir Romney isn’t saying much while Trump is screaming for his head on Twitter?

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:02:26pm

re: #284 Targetpractice

Anybody else notice that Brave Sir Romney isn’t saying much while Trump is screaming for his head on Twitter?

No need…….he is proving his point….

And it is the weekend, Mitt may be out dancing with his horse.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:03:05pm

re: #284 Targetpractice

Anybody else notice that Brave Sir Romney isn’t saying much while Trump is screaming for his head on Twitter?

To some degree, what is he gonna do? Yellow Fucknutz is going to bellow diversion in anyway possible from here to the end.
All I can say is normal Mormons don’t like YF much either.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:03:16pm

re: #284 Targetpractice

Anybody else notice that Brave Sir Romney isn’t saying much while Trump is screaming for his head on Twitter?

Did you expect Milquetoast Mitt to do anything else?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:03:28pm

re: #283 retired cynic

Sounds like Bannon’s fingerprints.

Bannon knows the classics. It’s amazing how one demento can have such negative influence.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:04:09pm

re: #283 retired cynic

Sounds like Bannon’s fingerprints.

Bannon has repeatedly said he is a disciple of Lenin.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:05:07pm

I think somebody is afraid to bring Trump bad news.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:08:52pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:09:15pm

re: #286 Dave In Austin

To some degree, what is he gonna do? Yellow Fucknutz is going to below diversion in anyway possible from here to the end.
All I can say is normal Mormons don’t like YF much either.

re: #287 Joe Bacon 🌹

Did you expect Milquetoast Mitt to do anything else?

I didn’t really expect more, which I think is sort of the point. Willard is pretty much being used as a lightning rod right now by Senate Repubs, all of Donny’s anger being directed towards him so that others have some cover to express “concern” or even “disapproval.” Why? Because he’s not up for reelection next year, but others like Sasse are.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:09:32pm
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Kilroy was here  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:10:07pm

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:10:58pm

re: #190 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Well, no. Republicans and Democrats both passed the Civil Rights Act, and both had cohorts of bigots opposing them (more Democrats, though). They also rejected Goldwater pretty soundly. It was 1970 and later that the Southern Strategy and beyond turned them into a nest of racists and nativists.

My statement might not have been clear; it was the American right that it criticized—- and until the 1980’s or so, the American right was not equivalent to the GOP. It’s only starting in the Reagan era and then with the Gingrich revolution that the GOP solidified as a RW organization, with no tolerance for dissenting views.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:11:11pm

re: #292 Targetpractice

Let’s just hope Mitch make the right phone calls to the right people. We won’t see what happens behind the door.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:15:52pm

I don’t think Bill is saying what he is trying to say?

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mmmirele  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:16:30pm

re: #284 Targetpractice

Anybody else notice that Brave Sir Romney isn’t saying much while Trump is screaming for his head on Twitter?

It’s General Conference weekend for the Mormon* faithful. He’s faithful, he’s probably watching.

*Yes, I know the leadership of the Mormon church wants everyone to call their organization The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on the first mention, and The Church of Jesus Christ on the second. Nobody knows who that organization is. They do know what “Mormon” means. Plus, “The Church of Jesus Christ” is completely pretentious.

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BigPapa  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:23:05pm

Gales and Bonomassa shredding bluesy rock? Machine says: Yes.

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:23:37pm

re: #297 b.d. (It’s all true)

I don’t think Bill is saying what he is trying to say?

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Not even close. But his desperation is fun to watch.

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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:23:39pm
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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:25:46pm

re: #289 Joe Bacon 🌹

Bannon has repeatedly said he is a disciple of Lenin.

More like Felix Dzerzhinsky…

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:27:06pm

hmmmmmmm

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mmmirele  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:29:19pm

re: #301 Disloyal Archangel

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Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:29:37pm

re: #303 b.d. (It’s all true)

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hmmmmmmm

Glass half full. They are freaking the fuck out.

Romney does not need to respond to the yam on twitter etc.

It’s setting up.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:29:52pm

re: #303 b.d. (It’s all true)

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hmmmmmmm

They’re all still wearily looking at McCarthy getting pantsed last week on 60 Min and deciding that it’s just not worth it. After all, how do they know anything they say will survive longer than the time it takes Donny to make it to the crapper?

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:34:03pm

re: #306 Targetpractice

They’re all still wearily looking at McCarthy getting pantsed last week on 60 Min and deciding that it’s just not worth it. After all, how do they know anything they say will survive longer than the time it takes Donny to make it to the crapper?

lol, that was beautiful, what a moron.

They could also go on the morning shows with a defense any have Trump contradict them, it is not worth the risk without a plan and they will be unable to get one.

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:37:55pm

A Crash Course in Unconscious Sexism The beginning and the ending, but there is a lot good in the middle. And the official Dixie Chicks video for Not Ready to Make Nice as a bonus.

When Senator Sanders’ heart issues (now, finally, acknowledged as a heart attack in a 78-year-old man) were first announced, I commented that we were about to get an object lesson in unconscious sexism.

And have we ever.

I don’t think the answer is to “over cover” Sanders’ health problems the way — with MSNBC timelines broken down by minutes and with hours of talking head discussion — that Clinton’s bout of pneumonia was treated. (And, Goddess knows, we NEED some coverage of Trump’s obvious (SNIFF!) health issues far more than we need to hear minute-by-minute accounts of Sanders’ chest pains.) But I want some some reasonable parity. I want a heart attack in a 78 year-old man to get more attention — because it’s a more serious matter — than a bout of pneumonia in a 69 year-old woman. I want discussions of the need for “transparency” to be equal whether the candidate is a man or a woman. I want us to address the unconscious sexism that resulted in Donald Trump.

To quote the ineffable Ms. Maines: “I’m not ready to make nice. I probably wouldn’t if I could. Cuz I’m mad as hell. Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should.” Millions of women feel this way. Keep underestimating our anger at your own peril.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:41:09pm
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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:42:00pm

The “Deep State” Strikes Back
Trump has spent three years maligning career civil servants. Now, they are honorably exposing his corruption. Washington Monthly, by James Bruno October 5, 2019

Very good, with this paragraph in the middle that strikes me right in the gut. I KNEW those birds were in it!

When nonpartisan “deep state” career professionals are excluded from investigations, the outcomes inevitably become suspect. When the Iran-Contra scandal broke open under Ronald Reagan, the White House initially requested personnel from the State Department and CIA to assist in the investigation. State tapped me to join that effort in late 1986. The day before I was to report for duty, however, the president’s team canceled their request, saying they preferred to keep the investigation “in-house.” Translation: they wanted anything but a full-throated honest inquest. To this day, Reagan’s and Vice President Bush’s foreknowledge of and decision-making in the scandal are not fully known, and the deception to protect them has been held up as an example of post-truth politics.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:42:18pm

re: #309 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

rofl. Someone should use a spell-checker.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:44:20pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:46:39pm

re: #313 Dread Pirate

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“Let President Trump know that we have found Hillary Clinton’s hidden emails!”

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:49:11pm

re: #291 GlutenFreeJesus

Skip to 5:15 when the battle starts.

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Video

Monster!

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:52:54pm

re: #309 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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The Shongles were a great all-female band and it’s just a damn shame that their shit is being sold in some dumpy Ohio Walgreens. They deserve better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:57:22pm

re: #316 Barefoot Grin

The Shongles were a great all-female band and it’s just a damn shame that their shit is being sold in some dumpy Ohio Walgreens. They deserve better.

I thought it was Tommy James and the Shongles

Crimson and Clover - Tommy James & The Shondells

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 5, 2019 • 1:59:14pm

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:22:32pm

re: #303 b.d. (It’s all true)

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hmmmmmmm

About fucking time.


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