Josh Ritter’s New Music Is Powerfully Political: Tiny Desk Concert With Amanda Shires and Jason Isbell [VIDEO]

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Watch Josh Ritter play “All Some Kind of Dream”, “The Torch Committee” and “The Gospel of Mary” at the Tiny Desk.

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Sept. 27, 2019 | Bob Boilen — Josh Ritter came to the Tiny Desk with the enthusiasm of a young child and the wisdom of an old soul. He arrived armed with a message and musical soulmates, Amanda Shires on fiddle and Jason Isbell on acoustic guitar. Both play on Josh’s 2019 album Fever Breaks; in fact, Jason produced the record. This is Josh Ritter’s second appearance at the Tiny Desk; his first was on Valentine’s Day 2011. On this day, his heart was on America.

Each song was filled with frustrations regarding the treatment of refugees, immigration, politics and our hearts. On “All Some Kind of Dream,” he sings, “There was a time when we were them / Just as now they all are we / Was there an hour when we took them in? / Or was it all some kind of dream?” When the song ended, Josh stared into the NPR crowd. “I feel like the big thing that we all have to fight against is this notion that we’re not all human beings,” he said. “And they’re trying to break us in every number of ways, all different little groups, and that we have no power, but we have power!”

Then he, Amanda and Jason launched into another Josh Ritter piece of passion, “The Torch Committee,” a song I believe is about evil and complacency. The trio ended with a new song, one I’d not heard before called “The Gospel of Mary.” It imagines Joseph, Mary and their child as refugees. Honestly, it was a draining concert with challenges to who we are and who, as a country and a people, we wish to be. As the applause faded Josh hugged his bandmates, thanked the crowd, smiled and said, “America, we love you, but you’ve gotta change!” Music can do that, and Josh Ritter is an agent for that change.

SET LIST
“All Some Kind of Dream”
“The Torch Committee”
“The Gospel of Mary”

MUSICIANS
Josh Ritter: vocals, guitar; Amanda Shires: vocals, violin; Jason Isbell: guitar

CREDITS
Producers: Bob Boilen, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Maia Stern, Beck Harlan; Associate Producer: Bobby Carter; Executive Producer: Lauren Onkey; VP, Programming: Anya Grundmann; Photo: Emily Bogle/NPR

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:05:11pm

We’ve reached the point where North Korea is telling us the truth more than Pompeo’s State Department.

Must be time for another beautiful letter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:08:44pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:09:57pm

Bad to worse

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:11:11pm

re: #1 b.d. (It’s all true)

We’ve reached the point where North Korea is telling us the truth more than Pompeo’s State Department.

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Must be time for another beautiful letter.

State Dep. career diplomats stuck trying to turn sow’s ear into designer Trump purse, trying to convince impossible-to-please boss that the NorK “negotiators” didn’t engage in yet another round of aimless “talks” so they could continue to shit on said boss’ lawn and get complimented on the fragrance.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:11:15pm

re: #3 Dave In Austin

Bad to worse

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With Trump’s blessings…

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:15:11pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And we get a reminder of just how fucked we are that an air-tight case now basically exists to remove the president* from office, but there is widespread doubt that it can happen because one half of our political system believe that the only crime that occurred…was that anybody outside the conspirators ever found out about it all in the first place.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:19:06pm

This is a little better

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:19:17pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:20:12pm

re: #6 Targetpractice

I know Trump probably won’t be removed, but I still want to get all GOP Senators on record. Either you support Trumps destruction of our country or you don’t. No running, no hiding. You have to vote and you will he held accountable for that vote next year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:22:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:24:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:26:40pm
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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:26:57pm

re: #3 Dave In Austin

Bad to worse

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Holy Cow. Holy %^&*()

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:27:01pm

Bernie stans coming at me.

I’ve already gotten several fuck you’s and other insults too.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:28:11pm

Example.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:28:30pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Bernie stans coming at me.

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I’ve already gotten several fuck you’s and other insults too.

lol, please source that….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:28:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:28:47pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Example.

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he sounds nice…

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:28:59pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:33:29pm
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BigPapa  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:35:28pm

Charles - thanks for turning me on to Beth Hart. I still owe you for Knower. Jacob Collier I can’t even talk about now.

Am I The One - Beth Hart Live

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:36:01pm
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BigPapa  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:39:45pm

Seriously, this woman is an amazing singer. She knows her power: notice how she’s pulling the mic away when she wails.

Beth Hart - Caught Out In The Rain (Live At The Royal Albert Hall) 2018

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:40:23pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:41:56pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:42:55pm

re: #25 gocart mozart

I still like Ukraine Clown Posse.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:43:44pm
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TedStriker  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:44:49pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

I still like Ukraine Clown Posse.

“Insane in the Ukraine”

/yeah, I know that’s a riff on Cypress Hill, but…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:44:49pm

Usual suspects are already dissecting and whining about this drop today:

Star Trek: Picard | NYCC Trailer | CBS All Access

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BigPapa  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:45:07pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

I still like Ukraine Clown Posse.

Ukraine Clown Posse wins everything for evermore.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:50:56pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course there is give and take, that is what diplomacy is BUT diplomacy is for the benefit of the country, not the individual……

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TedStriker  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:51:36pm

re: #29 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Usual suspects are already dissecting and whining about this drop today:

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Video

Fuck the whiners, I’m so fucking stoked for this:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:51:47pm
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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:52:48pm

Crabs In Bucket 2020

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:53:21pm
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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:54:11pm

Godfather says Fredo made him do it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:54:23pm

Trumps gonna need a bigger bus to throw people under.

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TedStriker  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:56:43pm

re: #37 Eclectic Cyborg

Trumps gonna need a bigger bus to throw people under.

Hell, there’s gonna be so many people to throw under the bus, Trump’s gonna need Bigfoot.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:57:00pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:57:42pm
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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:57:53pm

re: #34 jaunte

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Crabs In Bucket 2020

LOL so the answer is:

Rick Perry, in Ukraine, with the Telephone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:59:21pm
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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:59:34pm
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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 2:59:37pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Man’s best friend? More like my friends!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:00:22pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:02:22pm

Say Rick, you have something sticking out of your back. It looks knife-shaped.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:03:41pm

HEY YOU! WHY DID YOU MAKE ME CALL THAT UKRAINE GUY ANYWAY!?!?!

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:05:25pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:06:21pm

re: #47 b.d. (It’s all true)

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HEY YOU! WHY DID YOU MAKE ME CALL THAT UKRAINE GUY ANYWAY!?!?!

Maggie again telling everybody the flippin’ obvious. Good to see that the Times are employing top-rate talent.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:06:29pm

re: #47 b.d. (It’s all true)

HEY YOU! WHY DID YOU MAKE ME CALL THAT UKRAINE GUY ANYWAY!?!?!

That’s some straight-up Game of Thrones shit right there.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:06:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:07:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:07:21pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tell ya what Brad. Warren will have China investigate if she’s elected? What’s that? You don’t like an authoritarian regime investigating you? But you’ve done wrong you insist.//

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:08:21pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What do people usually call an investigation that exists for no other reason than to look for something incriminating, no matter how tangentially connected to the original reason?

Oh, right, a WITCH HUNT!

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:08:28pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mighty low bar (Romney) yet trump still can’t beat it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:09:09pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Bernie stans coming at me.

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I’ve already gotten several fuck you’s and other insults too.

He’s 78 and has known heart trouble. That’s not good at all. It’s not ageist.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:09:11pm

Shorter Trump: “It was everyones fault but mine!”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:09:56pm

re: #55 William Lewis

Mighty low bar (Romney) yet trump still can’t beat it.

Yeah his kids are just dicks but not crooks.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:10:03pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s a nice campus. My middle son went there one summer for a pipe organ camp (he plays all manner of keyboards, organ, piano, pipe organ). At the end of the 2 weeks when us parents picked the kids up we walked from church to church (there were like 8 of them with big pipe organs), and the kids all did their thing on the particular organ they had been practicing on during the camp. Was a real nice time.

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TedStriker  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:10:08pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

He’s 78 and has known heart trouble. That’s not good at all. It’s not ageist.

Frankly, it’s prudent risk management to question why Bernie still needs to be in this race at this point.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:10:28pm

re: #57 Eclectic Cyborg

Shorter Trump: “It was everyones fault but mine!”

Ooooops
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:11:26pm

re: #60 TedStriker

Frankly, it’s prudent risk management to question why Bernie still needs to be in this race at this point.

It really is.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:13:10pm

Well Rick, it’s either roll on Trump or have the bus roll over you. Just a reminder, the longer you dither, the more likely you’re gonna end up in prison stripes.

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Mattand  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:13:35pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Bernie stans coming at me.

Bernie Sanders needs to suspend his campaign. This election is far too important to risk putting someone in the White House who’s just had a heart attack. I can’t believe we’re even debating this at all.

I’ve already gotten several fuck you’s and other insults too.

I was thinking about this as I passed my Bernie Bro neighbor’s house walking the dog today.

Have the Bros started in with the conspiracy theories blaming Clinton and/or the DNC for Bernie’s heart attack yet?

I’m actually deadly fucking serious about that. The Bros can quickly become MAGAts who can spell properly at the drop of a hat.

And I absolutely agree that Bernie needs to seriously consider bowing out.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:14:27pm
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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:15:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:16:56pm

re: #65 jaunte

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I seriously imagine Pompeo as a powerful and cold blooded Ned Flanders. He won’t curse but he will turn the blind eye if you butcher a journalist who has criticized his boss and the House of Saud.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:18:05pm

“I totally didn’t commit any crimes, but if I did it was at the direction of others!” is generally not a convincing defense under any circumstances. But particularly when you are the guy in charge with the power to hire and fire on a whim.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:19:12pm

Making Perry his fall guy. Pathetic. He really is the opposite of The Buck Stops Here. The responsibility of the Presidency to him is a game of hot potato like I play with my niece except my niece although she tries to get every edge will accept defeat.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:19:36pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

Well Rick, it’s either roll on Trump or have the bus roll over you. Just a reminder, the longer you dither, the more likely you’re gonna end up in prison stripes.

I see what you did there.

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NetworkKed  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:19:38pm

Uh. Either this is totally coordinated “Sure, boss, pin that rampant illegality on me, who can be indicted particularly after I’ve resigned!”

Or we’re going to get cabinet secretaries making the committee testimony tour real fast. Does Perry like Trump that much?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:20:08pm

re: #68 Targetpractice

“I totally didn’t commit any crimes, but if I did it was at the direction of others!” is generally not a convincing defense under any circumstances. But particularly when you are the guy in charge with the power to hire and fire on a whim.

Rudy never practiced defense law iirc and man it shows in his client.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:20:17pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:20:56pm
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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:21:24pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

They’re no strangers to crime
They know the rules and so do I
A full impeachment’s what I’m thinking of
You wouldn’t get this from any other guy

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Mattand  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:22:02pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’ll never have Romney’s class.

You’ll never have Romney’s patriotism.

You’ll never have Romney’s integrity.

You’ll never have Romney’s long, happy marriage, or self-made kids who lead full lives, not profiteering from their dad’s position.

You’ll never have Romney’s hair.

Uh, we are talking about the same guy who made his money by buying businesses, saddling those businesses with all the debt he incurred buying them, and then selling them off piece meal, right?

Self-made kids? If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but I’d like to see the citation on that.

Integrity? The same guy who created Romneycare in MA and then derided the ACA while running against Obama?

Also, the same guy who would put a dog on the fucking roof of his car, rather than let it ride safely in the cabin?

I’m glad he’s speaking out against Trump, sorta, and what not, but Christ; let’s not build the fucking statue yet.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:22:32pm

If Bernie did get the nomination, his health would be used against him 24/7. Life is not fair, Bernie needs to drop out, we need to win.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:23:07pm

re: #71 NetworkKed

Uh. Either this is totally coordinated “Sure, boss, pin that rampant illegality on me, who can be indicted particularly after I’ve resigned!”

Or we’re going to get cabinet secretaries making the committee testimony tour real fast. Does Perry like Trump that much?

It honestly seems like nothing more than an extension of the existing “This was a perfect phone call!” defense strategy that has so far not found many buyers, i.e. portraying the act of making the call the “crime” rather than the contents of the call. That way they can keep arguing that what they did was perfectly legal, like a getaway driver insisting that he was just transporting his friends from the bank to their house.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:23:27pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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IT WASN’T A HEART ATTACK!! SOMEONE JUST GOT A PIECE OF KRYPTONITE TOO CLOSE TO THE BERN!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:23:35pm

re: #64 Mattand

Yes Berniebros are blaming Hillary…

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Mattand  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:23:50pm

re: #77 I Would Prefer Not To

If Bernie did get the nomination, his health would be used against him 24/7. Life is not fair, Bernie needs to drop out, we need to win.

Did Ike have his heart attack in office or prior to either election? Trying to fend off a potential Bro talking point in advance.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:24:03pm
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Mattand  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:24:06pm

re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes Berniebros are blaming Hillary…

OMG, seriously???

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:26:41pm

re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes Berniebros are blaming Hillary…

That seems on brand.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:27:59pm

re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes Berniebros are blaming Hillary…

True to form

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:28:10pm

re: #83 Mattand

OMG, seriously???

“This wouldn’t have happened if Hillary hadn’t stolen the nomination from Bernie”

BULL SHITT!!!!!

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:28:48pm

re: #81 Mattand

He was president, and he was 64.
ozy.com

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:31:06pm

double header

my favorite:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:32:30pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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He’s fortunate it wasn’t fatal.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:33:11pm

re: #81 Mattand

Did Ike have his heart attack in office or prior to either election? Trying to fend off a potential Bro talking point in advance.

In. Definitely in.

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Jay C  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:33:50pm

re: #81 Mattand

Did Ike have his heart attack in office or prior to either election? Trying to fend off a potential Bro talking point in advance.

IIRC, in 1955, age 65 - about a year or so before his second (re-) election.
And at the time, I think his health issues were a big deal (Ike was the oldest sitting President (?) ) . Not that it hurt his re-election chances, though.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:33:54pm

Now LBJ did have one and in the Senate prior to being elected.

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CarolJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:34:30pm

re: #81 Mattand

But campaigning was different then. Candidates were chosen at the Conventions, and there were few primaries. So it was a short period of active campaigning then. What happened was the melee at the Democratic Convention of 1968, where many of the new delegates objected to the less than transparent nomination of Hubert Humphrey. So there were reforms made at the 1972 convention that moved the nominating process for delegates from state conventions to primaries. An open process led to primaries instead of simply going to the Convention.
Winning those created a much longer race and of course, a more grueling one.
MC-Govern Fraser Commission

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:35:56pm

re: #91 Jay C

IIRC, in 1955, age 65 - about a year or so before his second (re-) election.
And at the time, I think his health issues were a big deal (Ike was the oldest sitting President (?) ) . Not that it hurt his re-election chances, though.

It definitely made his VP choice a concern. Eventually Nixon did stay as VP but he nearly got moved to Defense Secretary. Ike and Nixon weren’t close.

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makeitstop  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:38:00pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

I still like Ukraine Clown Posse.

I liked ‘Orange Crush.’

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CarolJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:38:21pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

And of course, with the rules at the time, Ike barely had to campaign. His nomination at the convention was as assured as an incumbent, so he only had to show up and take the accolades. Yes, there was concern about his health, but no concern that simply running again would kill him.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:39:49pm
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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:39:54pm

F*ck. No details given out yet and I am loathe to buy into conspiracies.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:40:50pm

So Trump did nothing wrong, but…

- Pompeo was listening in on the call
- Only a limited number of staff were in on the call
- The call was immediately jammed into a super-secret computer server
- When a whistleblower made a complaint about the call, the whole thing was immediately silenced
- When a criminal complaint was made in conjunction to the whisteblower’s complaint, the DOJ put the kibosh on it without an investigation

And we’re supposed to believe that all this happened because Rick Perry pressed Trump to make a call.

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Jay C  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:41:45pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

It definitely made his VP choice a concern. Eventually Nixon did stay as VP but he nearly got moved to Defense Secretary. Ike and Nixon weren’t close.

What was Eisenhower’s comment when asked in 1960 about Nixon’s contributions to his Administration? “Give me a week or so, and I’ll think of something” ?

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:42:51pm

Can anyone explain the last Tweet?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:44:59pm

re: #101 gocart mozart

Can anyone explain the last Tweet?

Dudebro-speak for, “You’re right, but I don’t want to admit it, so I’m just going to say something that will hopefully sound deep enough that I can get off this painful topic.”

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:45:23pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:46:51pm

re: #101 gocart mozart

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Can anyone explain the last Tweet?

The last redoubt of postmodernists?

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Cheechako  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:47:29pm

re: #25 gocart mozart

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I’d like to nominate: “Obfusgate”

From the word:

obfuscate[ ob-fuh-skeyt, ob-fuhs-keyt ]

verb (used with object), ob*fus*cat*ed, ob*fus*cat*ing.
to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.
to make obscure or unclear:
to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information.
to darken.

Unfortunately the term is a real tongue twister and hard to speak.

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CarolJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:48:57pm

I’m a Biden supporter-Warren is my second choice. But I would want him to drop out instead of killing himself. He has as much to offer in say, a Cabinet position as as President. Plus if you love the person, you would want what’s best for them and live long and prosper.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:49:05pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:51:11pm
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Weaselone  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:54:51pm

It doesn’t even make sense. Why would Rick Perry request that Trump call the President of Ukraine and to demand the investigation of Hunter Biden in exchange for releasing aid? The only reason that makes sense is that Perry went to Ukraine to present the blackmail, the response was essentially “you’re joking right?” and he came back and indicated that the blackmail attempt is only going to be taken seriously if Trump delivers it.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 3:58:21pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:01:00pm

re: #110 goddamnedfrank

That is a perfect analogy.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:02:10pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, the fact that Trump can’t clear Romney’s class, patriotism, and integrity is pretty telling.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:04:35pm

re: #111 Eclectic Cyborg

That is a perfect analogy.

Except that my calling Rick Perry a random piece of equipment implies he might be in some way useful.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:06:46pm

re: #100 Jay C

What was Eisenhower’s comment when asked in 1960 about Nixon’s contributions to his Administration? “Give me a week or so, and I’ll think of something” ?

Yes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:09:01pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:13:39pm

re: #115 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“I’m not against whistleblowing except when the whistleblower follows the rules and the alleged perp is my protectors’ installed tool.”

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:21:05pm

re: #76 Mattand

Uh, we are talking about the same guy who made his money by buying businesses, saddling those businesses with all the debt he incurred buying them, and then selling them off piece meal, right?

Self-made kids? If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but I’d like to see the citation on that.

Integrity? The same guy who created Romneycare in MA and then derided the ACA while running against Obama?

Also, the same guy who would put a dog on the fucking roof of his car, rather than let it ride safely in the cabin?

I’m glad he’s speaking out against Trump, sorta, and what not, but Christ; let’s not build the fucking statue yet.

Yup. That fucking miserable excuse for a man.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:24:38pm

re: #115 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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It’s almost like Greenwald and Tracey are hacks.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:27:19pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:28:10pm

I’m not sure why the Daily News has retweeted this afte two and a half months
But, it is ‘Lizard’ related

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:30:43pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m not sure why the Daily News has retweeted this afte two and a half months
But, it is ‘Lizard’ related

[Embedded content]

Gotta turn off the autocorrect on the cake icer.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:31:39pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

They always assume anyone critical of St. Bernie must be a corporatist. They act a lot like Trump supporters.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:32:34pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m not sure why the Daily News has retweeted this afte two and a half months
But, it is ‘Lizard’ related

[Embedded content]

I’m sure the baker’s strong Christian faith made them do that.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:33:05pm

We are at Ft Stockton TX. Like many communities, local pride has produced a little drama about the founding. Here is the script for Ft Stockton’s origin myth:

COL, 10th US Cavalry ( Buffalo Soldiers): “Build a fort here.”
2LT, 10th US Cavalry: “Why here, sir?”
COL: “Why the hell not?”

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:33:51pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That poor child. I feel sorry for her.

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TedStriker  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:37:41pm

re: #125 PhillyPretzel

That poor child. I feel sorry for her.

Did whoever picked up the cake not read it before taking it home?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:37:47pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:38:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:40:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:43:58pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:44:36pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:46:41pm

Has there been some kind of generational shift with regards to putting things in our butts?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:46:44pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:51:29pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

I’m old enough to remember when Biden claimed that VP Pence was a good guy. Now Pence is backing Trump’s claims that he and his son are criminals.
google.com

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sagehen  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:52:23pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

I still like Ukraine Clown Posse.

Ukrainium One.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:56:12pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m laughing way too hard at that. Bad me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:56:44pm

moron is still upset

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BeachDem  Oct 5, 2019 • 4:59:18pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Where’s Carly Fiorina when you need her?

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lawhawk  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:02:18pm

re: #105 Cheechako

I’m still kinda partial to Treason Tower or Corruptalago.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:04:54pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is still upset

[Embedded content]

Biden is NOT the VP anymore you angry shitweasel.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:05:54pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is still upset

[Embedded content]

Is that why more people support impeaching you than ever before but yeah tweeting Pinocchio makes you look so clever when you lie about everyone and everything.

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lawhawk  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:07:54pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Is that why more people support impeaching you than ever before but yeah tweeting Pinocchio makes you look so clever when you lie about everyone and everything.

It’s always projection like IMAX with Trumpworld. That is when they’re not lying, obfuscating, exaggerating, or deflecting.

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Interesting Times  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:08:05pm

Good distinction:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:11:11pm

re: #143 Interesting Times

Good distinction:

[Embedded content]

Exactly

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:12:36pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s how we see how close the coyote pack is.

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lawhawk  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:12:55pm
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sagehen  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:16:17pm

PBS show I’m watching and highly recommend:

Hip Hop Nutcracker

The music is the standard Tchaikovsky score. The staging — sets, costumes, choreography — is 1980’s b-boy.

(the show will be at the Kings Theater in Brooklyn Dec 15, and I think there may be a national tour)

Youtube Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:18:52pm

re: #145 retired cynic

That’s how we see how close the coyote pack is.

It reminded me of jeffrey’s possum/raccoon night photos.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:19:49pm
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makeitstop  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:20:38pm

I’m hoping everyone who knows a White House staffer is retweeting this thread.

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DangerMan  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:20:52pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Plus didnt Romney get more votes than trump?

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:22:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:23:00pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

That’s obscene.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:24:11pm

re: #151 DangerMan

Plus didnt Romney get more votes than trump?

I don’t know

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:26:49pm
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sagehen  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:28:13pm

re: #151 DangerMan

Plus didnt Romney get more votes than trump?

Romney 60,928,981
Obama 65,899,625

Trump 62,984,828
Clinton 65,853,514

Hillary Clinton got more votes than any white man, ever.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:28:22pm

re: #151 DangerMan

Plus didnt Romney get more votes than trump?

Trump got more votes than any other Republican candidate for President.

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Interesting Times  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:28:43pm

re: #151 DangerMan

Plus didnt Romney get more votes than trump?

No:

Democratic Barack Obama (incumbent)/Joe Biden (incumbent) 65,915,795 51.1%
Republican Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan 60,933,504 47.2%

Republican Donald Trump/Mike Pence 62,979,636 46%
Democratic Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine 65,844,610 48.1%

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:29:25pm

re: #156 sagehen

Hillary Clinton got more votes than any white man, ever.

And we Californians say, “you’re welcome”.

Seriously, add up the totals but leave out California. You’ll find that Trump won handily.

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CarolJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:32:02pm

re: #159 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Aren’t Californians citizens too? And as you folks always say, its the Electoral College, not the popular vote. You are just mad that the most populous state in the Union, and the most sophisticated and diverse, just didn’t buy that a reality show star, and a failed businessman was Presidential timber.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:32:38pm

re: #159 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And we Californians say, “you’re welcome”.

Seriously, add up the totals but leave out California. You’ll find that Trump won handily.

Now leave out Alabama. Please.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:37:00pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:38:31pm
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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:38:34pm

re: #162 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Ummm, one would THINK that was important enough to be mentioned on front pages everywhere…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:41:42pm
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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:42:24pm

re: #164 retired cynic

“…The drama roiling Washington has intensified scrutiny of Giuliani’s private work as a lawyer and consultant around the globe and his unorthodox decision to continue to represent clients with foreign interests while serving as the president’s personal lawyer.

How Giuliani navigates between the needs of his foreign clients and those of the president is unclear. The former New York mayor, whose private security and consulting firm does not disclose its clients, has never registered as a foreign lobbyist, saying he does not do work that would require such filings.

He has accepted work from a number of foreign interests whose policy goals have been at odds with U.S. policy, including the Mujahideen-e Khalq, or MEK, an Iranian resistance group operating in exile that was previously listed as a terrorist group by the State Department, a designation removed in 2012.”
washingtonpost.com

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:43:14pm

re: #166 jaunte

Thank you!!

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DangerMan  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:44:18pm

re: #156 sagehen

Romney 60,928,981
Obama 65,899,625

Trump 62,984,828
Clinton 65,853,514

Hillary Clinton got more votes than any white man, ever.

Sorry. Thanks.
I thought I read it somewhere today
Gotta source stuff myself

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:54:10pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 5:55:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:00:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:02:25pm
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fern01  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:04:30pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Bernie stans coming at me.

[Embedded content]

I’ve already gotten several fuck you’s and other insults too.

And that media that insisted Hillary Clinton was so ill - and too old to run. I’m intrigued as to why trump & Sanders get away with all this while Biden is now being attacked on all sides.

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ozharas  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:07:50pm

Meanwhile….

‘Sack me if you dare,’ Boris Johnson will tell the Queen

thetimes.co.uk

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:09:08pm
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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:09:36pm

re: #174 ozharas

Meanwhile….

‘Sack me if you dare,’ Boris Johnson will tell the Queen

thetimes.co.uk

I’m sure she could beat up Boris right now.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:10:47pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:13:02pm

re: #175 Belafon

How weak is a president who makes a phone call at the urging of his Sec. of Energy that he didn’t want to make?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:14:42pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:14:56pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh please, Liz, tell Boris to fuck off and hit the bricks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:15:45pm

Hmmm haven’t seen the latest from Garrison or McNaughton in quite a while. Wonder what those Proletarian Propagandists are doing?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:17:32pm

re: #178 Colère Tueur de Lapin

How weak is a president who makes a phone call at the urging of his Sec. of Energy that he didn’t want to make?

At the end, it will be Trump, Jared, and Ivanka in the bunker, as he will have thrown everybody else under the bus.

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:18:07pm

re: #182 NO SMOCKING GUN!

At the end, it will be Trump, Jared, and Ivanka in the bunker, as he will have thrown everybody else under the bus.

Not if he can kick Jared out.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:20:03pm

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:23:17pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:24:40pm

re: #175 Belafon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:27:10pm

thread

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:27:34pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:30:16pm
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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:31:41pm

re: #173 fern01

And that media that insisted Hillary Clinton was so ill - and too old to run. I’m intrigued as to why trump & Sanders get away with all this while Biden is now being attacked on all sides.

They know Bernie is easy for Trump so they can still have their f*ing horse race.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:31:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:32:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:33:16pm
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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:34:21pm

re: #174 ozharas

Meanwhile….

‘Sack me if you dare,’ Boris Johnson will tell the Queen

thetimes.co.uk

Have his ass arrested for high treason & jail his ass in the tower, your Majesty. I believe that power is still yours.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:35:54pm

Great thread on getting out while the getting is good.

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:40:29pm

re: #195 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Great thread on getting out while the getting is good.[Embedded content]

I have a friend who had a career as a lawyer defending various clients and she has waxed eloquent on the topic. She also was married to a man she termed a narcissistic sociopath. She has been beating the war drums since DT won the R nomination.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:40:51pm

If I sound like I’m getting a bit caustic here, it’s because I’m officially pissed off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:42:41pm
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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:45:21pm

re: #197 goddamnedfrank

If I sound like I’m getting a bit caustic here, it’s because I’m officially pissed off.

[Embedded content]

“It’s ok because Democrats did it.”
“Democrats didn’t do it. I’m sure they did. Let me look.”
“Im sure they did do it, let me ask around.”
“No, I know they did it. It’s right here in this document I wrote.”

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:45:50pm

re: #197 goddamnedfrank

If I sound like I’m getting a bit caustic here, it’s because I’m officially pissed off.

[Embedded content]

The tuft of shirt sticking out between pants, jacket and flak jacket make that image. And the Rs made fun of Michael Dukakis in a tank. At least he served in the Army! (And was a Swarthmore grad, like my husband.)

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:46:58pm

But he is not better than this.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:52:57pm

re: #201 jaunte

What gets me most about Pompeo is how he holds himself out as an Evangelical Christian. What happened to his morals and being truthful?

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Jay C  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:53:10pm

re: #191 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Gee, can’t find any GOP Congressional leaders to show up on the Sunday gas fests? Here’s a radical idea: how about booking some Democrats instead? Or would that be too biased?

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:56:14pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 6:59:48pm

re: #202 Patricia Kayden

What gets me most about Pompeo is how he holds himself out as an Evangelical Christian. What happened to his morals and being truthful?

Pompousass is like every other Republican. His morals are those espoused by Ayn Rand.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:00:56pm

re: #203 Jay C

Gee, can’t find any GOP Congressional leaders to show on the Sunday gas fests? Here’s a radical idea: how about booking some Democrats instead? Or would that be too biased?

Remember that the typical Democrat who goes on the Sunday Gasbag shows is Joe LIEberman…

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Interesting Times  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:01:29pm

Bwahaha:

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:08:26pm

This is how Simon talks to his friends

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TedStriker  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:09:47pm

re: #208 gocart mozart

This is how Simon talks to his friends

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:16:17pm

This was the book plug he was referencing

Unrelated truth

This is hilarious

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:23:42pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:24:40pm
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fern01  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:28:56pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

It definitely made his VP choice a concern. Eventually Nixon did stay as VP but he nearly got moved to Defense Secretary. Ike and Nixon weren’t close.

Seems to me President & VP are rarely close - the VP is chosen to bring in a different set of votes. Only exception seems to be Obama & Biden - but Biden was selected to be the old white guy - bring in a different set of votes.

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fern01  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:29:42pm

re: #98 b.d. (It’s all true)

F*ck. No details given out yet and I am loathe to buy into conspiracies.

[Embedded content]

I’ll sure buy into the conspiracy theory - this is horrifying

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:33:19pm
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uriel  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:33:25pm

re: #115 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:34:09pm

re: #214 fern01

I’ll sure buy into the conspiracy theory - this is horrifying

He testified against a cop and then got shot in the mouth. That seems like a very clear message.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:35:42pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:42:50pm
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Danack  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:44:22pm

re: #213 fern01

Seems to me President & VP are rarely close …. Only exception seems to be Obama & Biden

My understanding is that they weren’t that close before running.

Apparently Biden wasn’t aware of how much Obama respected him until in one of the debates, when a question that Biden hadn’t listened was passed to him in the form of “and what do you think Senator Biden?” and rather than let him stumble, Obama whispered what the question was about to him.

From that, and then running for office, and then during the Obama Presidency, is when their friendship developed.

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Jay C  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:45:49pm

re: #213 fern01

Seems to me President & VP are rarely close - the VP is chosen to bring in a different set of votes. Only exception seems to be Obama & Biden - but Biden was selected to be the old white guy - bring in a different set of votes.

Well, I seem to recall GW Bush and VP Cheney were a pretty tight team: but then, I guess they would have to, so that Cheney could run the country efficiently…..

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:47:04pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:47:24pm
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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:50:59pm

re: #207 Interesting Times

Bwahaha:

[Embedded content]

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:53:10pm
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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 7:58:12pm
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jaunte  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:01:58pm
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fern01  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:02:20pm

re: #190 William Lewis

They know Bernie is easy for Trump so they can still have their f*ing horse race.

What happens if a candidate dies during the campaign - can a party put up a replacement? Bernie & trump are a pair who care about self above all else.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:04:47pm

re: #227 jaunte

Change the rules to protect the Constitution and … not have an impeachment trial? But… isn’t that IN the Constitution? I’m so confused.

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fern01  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:05:04pm

re: #197 goddamnedfrank

If I sound like I’m getting a bit caustic here, it’s because I’m officially pissed off.

[Embedded content]

Guy trying to emulate Princess Diana - does it so very badly. Reminds one of Freddy Eynsford-Hill

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:11:06pm

re: #226 Belafon

It’s hardly a new theory. The Big-Men-of-History concept is in part based on the idea that being infamous is better than being forgotten.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:13:44pm
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uriel  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:14:04pm

re: #227 jaunte

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:19:57pm

The witnesses in the Amber Guyger murder trial are now being systematically targeted for retaliation and elimination.

The witness has been identified only as Bunny and has stated that she recorded Guyger on her cellphone after hearing the fatal shots and Botham asking Guyger why did you shoot me. That video was seized by prosecutors and has not been seen by the public. In addition, she was placed under a gag order by the prosecution and cannot discuss the details of the video in public. Despite the fact she was only a witness to the shooting, she has received death threats and now she says she has been fired from her job.

According to her, people began contacting the pharmaceutical company where she worked claiming that she was a radical, anti-police and a Black extremist. As a result, she claims the company did not want the publicity and fired her as well as revoking the credentials of her profession.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:26:24pm

re: #234 goddamnedfrank

Wow. She should have gone to the media instead and asked to be an anonymous source. I’m trying to figure out why prosecutors would bury this evidence.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:29:17pm
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John Hughes  Oct 6, 2019 • 3:35:03am

re: #82 Charles Johnson

If Rick Perry told Donald Trump to jump off a bridge, would he do it?

Can we work out a way of getting Rick to try?


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