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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:27:51pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:29:22pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:32:00pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:37:06pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

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Instead, Barr and Steven Miller are applauding them for rubbing out a witness…

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:37:57pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:38:48pm

re: #5 goddamnedfrank

And he’s got Gorka And Screwdy Giuliani “assisting with the persuasion…”

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:40:53pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

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The police need to remember - there is no statue of limitations on murder.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:46:48pm
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uriel  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:47:43pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

The whole situation is just so blatantly, in your face FUBAR. Heads should be rolling like bowling balls.

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MsJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:49:42pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:54:16pm

And who will be on the Sunday Gasbag Shows?

NBC’s “Meet the Press”: Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.)

ABC’s “This Week”: Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.)

CBS’s “Face the Nation”: Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), Reps. Jim Hines (D-Conn.) and Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.)

“Fox News Sunday”: Reps. Val Demings (D-Fla.) and Chris Stewart (R-Utah)

CNN’s “State of the Union”: GOP presidential candidates former Gov. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) and former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.), Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.)

I’m sure there will be a heaping helping of Republican $tenographers$ on the panels tossing softballs at Republicans and spitballs at Democrats…

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MsJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 8:59:25pm

Hmmmm

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:00:46pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

And who will be on the Sunday Gasbag Shows?

NBC’s “Meet the Press”: Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.)

ABC’s “This Week”: Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.)

CBS’s “Face the Nation”: Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), Reps. Jim Hines (D-Conn.) and Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.)

“Fox News Sunday”: Reps. Val Demings (D-Fla.) and Chris Stewart (R-Utah)

CNN’s “State of the Union”: GOP presidential candidates former Gov. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) and former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.), Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.)

I’m sure there will be a heaping helping of Republican $tenographers$ on the panels tossing softballs at Republicans and spitballs at Democrats…

Now that it looks bad for Republicans, we have half and half. Otherwise it’s all Republicans. So it’s progress.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:00:50pm

re: #10 MsJ

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Short preview of the Sunday shows: “This call was totally normal, asking ‘favors’ from allies is totally normal, there’s no proof that Trump did anything illegal, and WHAT ABOUT BIDEN!?!”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:02:14pm
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fern01  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:05:42pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

The FBI and the DOJ Civil Rights Division should be tearing DPD apart right now.

This is the trump FBI & DOJ - you do not understand how it works.

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garzooma  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:05:43pm

From last month, a preview of what’s coming to this country: Putin’s thugs raiding opposition members under pretext of “fighting corruption”:

MOSCOW — In a nationwide crackdown to prevent discontent in Moscow from spreading to far-flung regions, Russian security forces on Thursday raided and searched hundreds of homes and offices of activists across the country who were affiliated with the opposition leader Aleksei A. Navalny. […]

The money-laundering case against Mr. Navalny’s organization, announced in early August, is widely viewed as transparently political. It is focused on allegations that his foundation funded its work with 1 billion rubles — around $15 million — “obtained by criminal means.”

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MsJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:08:28pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

And who will be on the Sunday Gasbag Shows?

NBC’s “Meet the Press”: Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.)

ABC’s “This Week”: Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.)

CBS’s “Face the Nation”: Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), Reps. Jim Hines (D-Conn.) and Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.)

“Fox News Sunday”: Reps. Val Demings (D-Fla.) and Chris Stewart (R-Utah)

CNN’s “State of the Union”: GOP presidential candidates former Gov. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) and former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.), Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.)

I’m sure there will be a heaping helping of Republican $tenographers$ on the panels tossing softballs at Republicans and spitballs at Democrats…

CNN is gonna be lit. I might break down and watch that.

Meet the Chuck has possibilities, too. He seems to have found some righteous anger recently.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:12:29pm

Fucking great.

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MsJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:14:34pm
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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:15:51pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Fucking great.

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What do we know about that “news” source.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:21:19pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Fucking great.

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Wait, wasn’t the whole argument for the Steele dossier being a work of “fiction” that Steele called upon former contacts in Russia in order to gather info?

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:31:34pm
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Belafon  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:39:02pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Just cycling through the English speaking countries.

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MsJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:41:24pm

Twelve?

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MsJ  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:47:34pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:54:13pm

Not often heard, I love the moody feeling in this piece by a Polish composer under preformed (at least here in the US):

Witold Maliszewski - Kuyavian Fantasy in G-minor for piano and orchestra, Op.25 (1928)

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2019 • 9:56:25pm

re: #27 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Not often heard, I love the moody feeling in this piece by a Polish composer under preformed (at least here in the US):

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Video

New piece to me. Thumbs up!

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plansbandc  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:02:42pm

Balloons were flying
Then they weren’t at all, damn it
Motherfucking fog.

(Mass Ascension was cancelled Sat. morning)

I think the folks that have come here from the four corners of the world are confused. First, the day before the Balloon Fiesta started, it rained about 3 inches. (LOL)

Then, everything was a go for flight this morning, and the ridiculous fog dropped. And it was foggy everywhere for miles.

So, the world travelers are all, Uh. This IS the desert southwest that google told us about, right? RIGHT??

Dude and I were like, WTF about the fog. It was absolutely ridiculous. Albuquerque weather was like MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:07:03pm

Trump’s Jail Cell is being prepared…

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fern01  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:10:43pm

re: #25 MsJ

Might be 11, the math doesn’t seem to be too good in Alabama

Nine men between the ages of 18 and 22 were first arrested over two days in mid-September, according to the Gadsden Times. The two latest arrests occurred Monday and brought the total number of men charged to 12.

9 +2 = 12?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:11:57pm
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austin_blue  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:20:21pm

re: #25 MsJ

Twelve?

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And of course, the school mascot is the Gamecocks.

Irony has taken poison, cut it’s wrists in the bathtub, and just dropped a CD player playing “White Rabbit” at FULL VOLUME into the tub.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:23:58pm

re: #25 MsJ

“The girls were older than 12 but younger than 16.”

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austin_blue  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:25:53pm

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

“The girls were older than 12 but younger than 16.”

Thank dog they weren’t children!

Oh, and Roy Moore is asking for e-mail addresses.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:45:15pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Fucking great.

Stedman is quoting The Epoch Times, the Falun Gong nutbar paper which posts conspiracy theories and was the second-largest buyer of adverts on Facebook for Trump’s campaign after Trump himself.

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BigPapa  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:53:46pm
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austin_blue  Oct 5, 2019 • 10:55:42pm

Running up on 1:00 here. Night all. Another jaded day in our fucked up timeline.

I can’t even get even get riled up about a fuzzily reported child rape ring at a southern Alabama University. I am pretty much toast. I do not like myself for reacting this way, but there it is. I feel like I’m punch drunk. Maybe I’ll wake up tomorrow and rediscover my humanity.

Right now, I’m beat. Damn.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:13:57pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Yeah, Epoch Times is little better than Breitbart or Infowars, quite frankly. It’s a lunatic-fringe media outlet.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:20:08pm

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, Epoch Times is little better than Breitbart or Infowars, quite frankly. It’s a lunatic-fringe media outlet.

Yeah it’s a shit source but that story has been confirmed elsewhere. I really hope Misfud isn’t being treated like he’s on the up and up. The fact that none of the actual fact witnesses from the Mueller Report appear to have been contacted yet and the investigation is instead focusing on crank theories is deeply troubling.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:28:19pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

Yeah it’s a shit source but that story has been confirmed elsewhere. I really hope Misfud isn’t being treated like he’s on the up and up. The fact that none of the actual fact witnesses from the Mueller Report appear to have been contacted yet and the investigation is instead focusing on crank theories is deeply troubling.

What The Epoch Times is peddling hasn’t been confirmed. Stedman might have used a legitimate source like the Washington Post.

Oh wait, no legitimate sources are reporting this. The Epoch Time’s article is spreading rapidly across right wing fever swamps like The Washington Examiner though.

According to The Epoch Times Mifsud’s laywer is only talking to EP and only via E-mail.

I’d put the link to the article there Stedman is quoting, but I don’t want to kill too many brain cells here.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:32:50pm

So, just watched the trailers for ST: Picard and the third season of Disco respectively…and I’m beginning to realize how much I miss the days of episodic Trek.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:41:21pm

Tucker Carlson says Trump’s Ukraine call was inappropriate: ‘There’s no way to spin this’ (Goes to CNN Business)

When you’ve lost the Tucker Carlson White Power Hour …

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:45:43pm

Meanwhile, the QAnon nutburgers have just cranked up the crazy to 11.

Hell, maybe 12.

In a private tag, because this is full-on psychosis from a Qcumber.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 5, 2019 • 11:48:38pm

Possible transformer explosion

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Targetpractice  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:03:47am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Tucker Carlson says Trump’s Ukraine call was inappropriate: ‘There’s no way to spin this’ (Goes to CNN Business)

When you’ve lost the Tucker Carlson White Power Hour …

He hasn’t lost Carlson, because the sack of shit immediately starts spinning Donny’s actions as “not that bad” before the end of the first paragraph. Then spends the rest of the op-ed making the “If he’s so bad, just vote him out!” argument that has become the last refuge of wingnuts who have no real defense for the man’s actions. How does Tucker know it wasn’t a crime? Because the DOJ (read: Barr) said so and wingnuts have never questioned the conclusions of the DOJ…oh wait, they’re doing that now as they cheer on Billy flying off to foreign locales to ask their help in “investigating” the FBI.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:04:43am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, the QAnon nutburgers have just cranked up the crazy to 11.

Hell, maybe 12.

In a private tag, because this is full-on psychosis from a Qcumber.

Wow. Sit back and watch the fun as they turn on each other.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:12:03am

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Wow. Sit back and watch the fun as they turn on each other.

If this gains traction with the hardcore nutburger Trumpites, it could actually hurt his re-election chances.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:16:36am

Meanwhile, Trump is busy doing his damnedest to lose Utah in next year’s re-election.

President Donald Trump on Saturday called U.S. Senator Mitt Romney a “pompous ass” after his sharp critique of the president’s push for other nations to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, a Democratic political rival.

“Mitt Romney never knew how to win. He is a pompous ‘ass’ who has been fighting me from the beginning,” Trump wrote of his fellow Republican on Twitter.

cnbc.com

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:17:44am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:40:03am

re: #50 Dave In Austin

The article is over a year old

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:42:57am

re: #51 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trying to keep the outrage alive I guess.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:56:41am

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🎃

What The Epoch Times is peddling hasn’t been confirmed. Stedman might have used a legitimate source like the Washington Post.

Oh wait, no legitimate sources are reporting this. The Epoch Time’s article is spreading rapidly across right wing fever swamps like The Washington Examiner though.

According to The Epoch Times Mifsud’s laywer is only talking to EP and only via E-mail.

I’d put the link to the article there Stedman is quoting, but I don’t want to kill too many brain cells here.

The Guardian reported it thusly:

The Daily Beast reported on Wednesday that Barr and Durham met Italian agents at the US embassy in Rome, where they were shown evidence that Italy had on Mifsud, including a tape he handed over to the authorities when he applied for police protection after disappearing in October 2017. On the tape, he reportedly explained why he might be in danger.

Here’s the Daily Beast’s coverage of the incident and provenance of the tape:

The Italian justice ministry’s public records show that Mifsud had applied for police protection in Italy after disappearing from Link University, where he worked and, in doing so, had given a taped deposition to explain just why people might want to harm him.

A source in the Italian Ministry of Justice, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told The Daily Beast that Barr and Durham were played the tape.

In addition Marcy Wheeler compiled all the coverage of Barr going to Italy to listen to the deposition, which Mifsud reportedly handed to the Italians when he applied for asylum.

Yesterday, the Daily Beast provided details about what Bill Barr was doing in Italy on the trip to dig up dirt first confirmed by the WaPo. According to DB, Barr and John Durham went to Italy on short notice (that is, even as the Ukraine scandal he is personally implicated in was breaking) to watch a videotaped deposition by Joseph Mifsud.

Marcy also goes back and establishes the initial impetus for Barr’s and Durham’s trip:

The Attorney General’s voyage to Italy got set in motion last fall when Ross published two stories relying on Mifsud’s “attorney” Stephen Roh (who himself has close ties to Russia). The first, dated September 10, reported that Mifsud was alive and well hiding in Italy. The second, published October 24, was explicitly a set-up for George Papadopoulos’ testimony before the joint OGR/HJC investigation into the Russian investigation. It included comments from Roh alleging that Mifsud was not a Russian asset, but was instead a Western one.

So if you’re done talking down to me and acting like a gigantic asshole the underlying point Stedman is trying to make in his tweet seems perfectly valid. Instead of directly interviewing actual FBI agents or primary fact witnesses in the case, Durham is letting Barr drag him around the world to listen to random videotapes of fever swamp retcon bullshit from Mifsud, who for all intents and purposes acts exactly like a Russian asset.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2019 • 1:02:28am

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

Big Youtube presence as well.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Oct 6, 2019 • 1:03:58am

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

So if you’re done talking down to me and acting like a gigantic asshole the underlying point Stedman is trying to make in his tweet seems perfectly valid. Instead of directly interviewing actual FBI agents or primary fact witnesses in the case, Durham is letting Barr drag him around the world to listen to random videotapes of fever swamp retcon bullshit from Misfud, who for all intents and purposes acts exactly like a Russian asset.

(bolding mine)

I fail to see where I was being “a giant asshole” and “talking down to you.”

I do appreciate you bringing other sources for me to look at, which I will.

If folk thing I’m being “a giant asshole” and “talking down to people” from my mighty high school educated perch, I need a long break from this place.

I’ll catch y’all much later.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2019 • 1:33:20am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 6, 2019 • 3:17:29am

……and murder your brother:
Georgia Teacher Tells Students Confederate Flag Means ‘You Intend To Marry Your Sister’

Not the hero we deserve but the hero we need: A teacher in Georgia has been placed on administrative leave after sharing a hard truth about the Confederate flag.

Newsweek reports:

A teacher in Richmond County, Georgia, has been placed on administrative leave after showing students a picture of the Confederate flag with words that many deemed to be incendiary.

The teacher from Hephzibah High School, who has not been identified, shared the picture of the controversial flag with words that read: “A sticker you put on the back of your pickup truck to announce that you intend to marry your sister. Think of it like a white trash ‘Save the Date’ card.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 6, 2019 • 3:51:40am
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steve_davis  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:04:56am

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

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oh please. the cops don’t actually have a Hat Squad driving around executing people who testify against cops. He was either mistaken for someone else by drug dealers, or he was doing something that got him executed by drug dealers.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:10:49am

re: #59 steve_davis

How do you know it was “drug dealers”?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:14:24am
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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:18:22am

re: #59 steve_davis

Giphy

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:18:46am
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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:22:37am

Hmm.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:24:12am
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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:24:20am

America, FUCK YEAH!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:25:51am

re: #64 teleskiguy

Suspect George is just fishing for viewers.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:26:06am

*raises hand*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:51:35am

re: #8 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Science Is No Enemy of Christianity

true in general, but Science is the very Nemesis of Fundamentalist Biblical Literalism

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:56:14am

At least we’re not the only country in the world right now dealing with a mass shooting.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:59:05am

Leaving Ft. Stockton at dawn, after needed repairs and refitting. Friendly natives helped us replenish the box Pinot strores, and morale is improved. Next stop is San Antonio, site of a historic minor skirmish between presidential forces and a group of undocumented border-crossers.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 4:59:17am
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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:16:36am

Greatest marching band in the world.

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jeffreyw  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:19:46am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:23:03am

re: #73 teleskiguy

This is awesome—the #Apollo11 Moon landing in marching band form!

Where is Stanley Kubrick as a tuba player out faking it all on 70mm film?

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:28:21am

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:32:21am

Good morning Lizards!

Trump’s thin skin won’t allow Republicans to save his ass by even mildly criticizing him

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:34:09am

re: #64 teleskiguy

Hmm.

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Here it is:

Kinda an expansion on Friday’s rumor:

Man! Did Rick Perry ever screw things up!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:35:03am

So what Deep Throat was to Nixon, is Whistle Blower to Trump…

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ericblair  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:36:19am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So what Deep Throat was to Nixon, is Whistle Blower to Trump…

I’m guessing we’ll see whistleblowers coming out on a near daily basis, now. There’s safety in the herd.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:39:25am

re: #80 ericblair

I’m guessing we’ll see whistleblowers coming out on a near daily basis, now. There’s safety in the herd.

Makes it harder for them to derail/silence them all, because that seems to be their strategy.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:39:41am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So what Deep Throat was to Nixon, is Whistle Blower to Trump…

Interesting to see which whistleblower is the one who brings Cheeto down? WB#1, WB#2 or a WB that hasn’t even got his whistle yet?

The definition and my reaction for the word whistleblower has forever been changed, for me anyways

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:40:03am

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

And who will be on the Sunday Gasbag Shows?

NBC’s “Meet the Press”: Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.)

ABC’s “This Week”: Reps. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.)

CBS’s “Face the Nation”: Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), Reps. Jim Hines (D-Conn.) and Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.)

“Fox News Sunday”: Reps. Val Demings (D-Fla.) and Chris Stewart (R-Utah)

CNN’s “State of the Union”: GOP presidential candidates former Gov. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) and former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.), Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.)

I’m sure there will be a heaping helping of Republican $tenographers$ on the panels tossing softballs at Republicans and spitballs at Democrats…

note not one person from the white house or admin

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steve_davis  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:41:35am

re: #60 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

How do you know it was “drug dealers”?

Okay. Offer me another coherent, non-paranoid explanation for why a guy standing out on the street at 1 a.m. gets gunned down by people driving by: they either thought he was somebody they needed to execute, or he WAS somebody they needed to execute.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:46:36am

re: #77 b.d. (It’s all true)

Good morning Lizards!

Trump’s thin skin won’t allow Republicans to save his ass by even mildly criticizing him

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Typical Trump.

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:46:36am

re: #45 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Possible transformer explosion

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of course you know my first thought.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:46:51am

re: #84 steve_davis

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:47:58am

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Typical Trump.

Trying to defend Trump from his own mistakes is like trying to save a rattlesnake from a pit with your bare hands.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:48:38am

The phone call was “perfect” and “beautiful” but it’s Rick Perry’s fault?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:50:33am

re: #88 b.d. (It’s all true)

Trying to defend Trump from his own mistakes is like trying to save a rattlesnake from a pit with your bare hands.

Ha now that’s an analogy. But hey if Trump being an ass who can never admit being results in his downfall, I’ll take it because he’s going to take a lot of people with him and the GOP base will be in shambles since they’ll be convinced that he was betrayed by McCarthy and Mitch.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:52:50am

re: #89 Ace Rothstein

The phone call was “perfect” and “beautiful” but it’s Rick Perry’s fault?

Yeah. Doesn’t add up does it? I was talking to one of my friends. Made the observation but Trump’s attorneys have never done criminal defense and you combine that with Trump being a loudmouth. It’s like if John Gotti had 2019 Rudy representing him instead of Bruce Cutter who was a savvy defense attorney.

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:53:37am

re: #77 b.d. (It’s all true)

Good morning Lizards!

Trump’s thin skin won’t allow Republicans to save his ass by even mildly criticizing him

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cautiously I say..good for us. not so good for Trump when th e guy doesn’t to nuance well

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 5:54:51am

re: #80 ericblair

I’m guessing we’ll see whistleblowers coming out on a near daily basis, now. There’s safety in the herd.

drip drip drip
“you’ve got to let nature take her course”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:02:11am

I think Trump doesn’t know a damn thing about what the President does. He’s watched some movies and all that. It’s to me telling that the two people who sparked his run were a black guy (Obama) and a woman (Clinton), I think he really looked at both of them and thought “I could do it better because I’m a white guy.” He’s always been an obnoxious prick but he never seriously talked about running for President until after Obama and HRC proved that non whites and men were viable. His entire political career and support base is pretty much angry white dudes who thought anyone could do it better than Obama or Clinton.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:04:47am
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sagehen  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:11:20am

re: #82 b.d. (It’s all true)

Interesting to see which whistleblower is the one who brings Cheeto down? WB#1, WB#2 or a WB that hasn’t even got his whistle yet?

The definition and my reaction for the word whistleblower has forever been changed, for me anyways

No one of them will be “the one”; the effect will be cumulative.

How many hairs make a beard? How many straws can a camel carry?

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sagehen  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:12:59am

re: #84 steve_davis

Okay. Offer me another coherent, non-paranoid explanation for why a guy standing out on the street at 1 a.m. gets gunned down by people driving by: they either thought he was somebody they needed to execute, or he WAS somebody they needed to execute.

He wasn’t “standing out on the street”, and he didn’t get gunned down by “people driving by.”

He pulled into his parking space at his apartment, got out of the car, and somebody who’d been in the parking lot waiting for him shot him.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:15:32am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:17:20am


I’ll show myself out now.
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:18:20am

re: #94 HappyWarrior

I think Trump doesn’t know a damn thing about what the President does.

He ran as the ultimate Outsider, the anti-politician, not beholden to any special interests.

The prime example is his Wall: had be been at all serious or competent, he would have, immediately upon assuming office, assembled a planning commission to assemble design, engineering, environmental and legal studies as well as proposing a budget and timetable.

He has done none of that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:20:40am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He ran as the ultimate Outsider, the anti-politician, not beholden to any special interests.

The prime example is his Wall: had be been serious or competent, he would have assembled a planning commission to assemble design,engineering, environmental and legal studies as well as proposing a budget and timetable.

He has done none of that.

Right. Because he doesn’t know what a President does. He just talked a lot of shit and enough of people bought it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:23:18am

Trump is beholden to a special interest. And that’s him. His ego. His wallet. His relationships. Although Trump could not tell you a damn thing about Ayn Rand’s writings, his presidency is the ultimate Randian presidency.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:26:33am

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Right. Because he doesn’t know what a President does. He just talked a lot of shit and enough of people bought it.

Because it allowed them to express their frustration and hatred for politicians and “politics as usual”.

We are certainly getting politics as unusual as ever.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:28:27am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Trump is beholden to a special interest. And that’s him. His ego. His wallet. His relationships. Although Trump could not tell you a damn thing about Ayn Rand’s writings, his presidency is the ultimate Randian presidency.

And also the people who have him in their pockets be it with debts they could call in or kompromat they could release

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:30:38am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because it allowed them to express their frustration and hatred for politicians and “politics as usual”.

We are certainly getting politics as unusual as ever.

Yeah it’s what they wanted. My point is we have someone who has no idea about the office they’re in charge of. Like past awful Presidents. Yes, they were awful but in my life and reading of history, we have never had a President that misunderstood what the Presidency was so profoundly. That may have been Trump appealing to some but imo it’s also going to be his downfall along with his inability to ever admit being wrong.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:31:22am

Shit. He’s fucking tweeting again.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:32:44am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And also the people who have him in their pockets be it with debts they could call in or kompromat they could release

Sure. Either way, he’s the ultimate special interest candidate. His administration isn’t benefiting the American people. It came out yesterday that Javanka made 80 million bucks last year. The executive branch has been reduced to a frigging government expansion of the Trump Organization and it shows daily.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:33:17am
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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:34:08am

What. An. Asshole.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:36:09am

re: #109 teleskiguy

What. An. Asshole.

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Thanks for solidifying us Donald, Manchin is probably a bit confused this AM though.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:37:09am

re: #109 teleskiguy

What. An. Asshole.

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So Ronna.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:38:07am

Gym Jordan is so smrt.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:41:01am

re: #112 teleskiguy

Gym Jordan is so smrt.

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OFFS. What a pathetic excuse. And yeah he was serious considering he fucking did it in a discussion with the Chinese President first. But we get it Gym, you’re a feckless wanker who is never critical of Dear Leader Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:41:04am

re: #97 sagehen

He wasn’t “standing out on the street”, and he didn’t get gunned down by “people driving by.”

He pulled into his parking space at his apartment, got out of the car, and somebody who’d been in the parking lot waiting for him shot him.

Just offhand, but that sounds highly suspicious. Sounds like a Cosa Nostra hit or something. Seriously - that’s like something straight out of a Scorsese mob flick.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:42:32am

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Just offhand, but that sounds highly suspicious. Sounds like a Cosa Nostra hit or something. Seriously - that’s like something straight out of a Scorsese mob flick.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:42:37am
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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:43:05am

re: #112 teleskiguy

Gym Jordan is so smrt.

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IT WAS ONLY A JOKE! LIKE CALLING IN A BOMB THREAT! OR SWATTING SOMEONE!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:43:28am

How fucked is your party if Romney comes off as a voice with some conscience. The dude who joked about liking to fire people, smirked about Benghazi, & popularized “self deport.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:45:18am

I’m not praising Romney. It’s a low bar to say good on you if you condemn the President for wanting a foreign power especially an authoritarian one like the PRC to investigate a political opponent.

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danarchy  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:48:06am

re: #97 sagehen

He wasn’t “standing out on the street”, and he didn’t get gunned down by “people driving by.”

He pulled into his parking space at his apartment, got out of the car, and somebody who’d been in the parking lot waiting for him shot him.

Do you have a link to the source for this? Just about everything I am finding has the same vague report. He was shot in a parking garage at an apartment complex, not the same one where Botham Jean was shot at, but none of them specify he lived there, he might it has been more than a year, he may have moved. No one seems to have seen it, they just heard shots and then saw the car speeding out of the garage.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:48:18am

TWEET TWEET

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ericblair  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:49:20am

re: #109 teleskiguy

What. An. Asshole.

The Democrats are lucky that they don’t have any Mitt Romney types. They may be lousy politicians, with really bad policies (Open Borders, Sanctuary Cities etc.), but they stick together!

He just called the Democrats united: he’s really lost all touch with reality.

However, Democrats are as united now as we are going to get, and props to everybody involved for that. What unites Republicans is self-interested greed and fear, which can fall apart pretty catastrophically.

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:55:17am

re: #94 HappyWarrior

I think Trump doesn’t know a damn thing about what the President does. He’s watched some movies and all that. It’s to me telling that the two people who sparked his run were a black guy (Obama) and a woman (Clinton), I think he really looked at both of them and thought “I could do it better because I’m a white guy.” He’s always been an obnoxious prick but he never seriously talked about running for President until after Obama and HRC proved that non whites and men were viable. His entire political career and support base is pretty much angry white dudes who thought anyone could do it better than Obama or Clinton.

+1

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:57:23am

re: #122 ericblair

He just called the Democrats united: he’s really lost all touch with reality.

However, Democrats are as united now as we are going to get, and props to everybody involved for that. What unites Republicans is self-interested greed and fear, which can fall apart pretty catastrophically.

He is also signalling that the GOP needs to circle the wagons and defend him at all costs if they want the party to survive in its current form

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:58:48am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He ran as the ultimate Outsider, the anti-politician, not beholden to any special interests.

The prime example is his Wall: had be been at all serious or competent, he would have, immediately upon assuming office, assembled a planning commission to assemble design, engineering, environmental and legal studies as well as proposing a budget and timetable.

He has done none of that.

One could be competent, capable, knowledgeable about the job and still be an outsider

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 6:59:58am

re: #123 DangerMan

+1

We need a term for someone who is the opposite of a statesman/woman. Traitor may work but Trump is something worse than Benedict Arnold since he was never interested in our country to begin with. As I said, he’s the ultimate Randian who thinks only about him and what will benefit him. I can’t even call him a right wing ideologue. Like fuck Steve Bannon with a spork but that guy has a thought out ideology. It’s hateful bs. It’s fascist. But Trump is only out for Trump.

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:00:15am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Trump is beholden to a special interest. And that’s him. His ego. His wallet. His relationships. Although Trump could not tell you a damn thing about Ayn Rand’s writings, his presidency is the ultimate Randian presidency.

Exactly. He’s not in it to be president
He’s in it to get rich
And to say he was president..ie in the club, picture in the wall etc

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:00:48am

re: #125 DangerMan

One could be competent, capable, knowledgeable about the job and still be an outsider

he ran on the image of being competent, capable, knowledgeable and successful, but he could not even get competent, capable, and knowledgeable to work for him.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:00:55am

re: #125 DangerMan

One could be competent, capable, knowledgeable about the job and still be an outsider

Lincoln. Only one term in Congress but he was wise as much as Trump is ignorant.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:01:15am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:02:14am

re: #127 DangerMan

Exactly. He’s not in it to be president
He’s in it to get rich
And to say he was president..ie in the club, picture in the wall etc

To that extent, it’s what Romney has in common with him. Just another resume addition. As I said, he’s the antithesis of a statesman/woman.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:02:43am

re: #50 Dave In Austin

This is what you throw at Republicans who can’t decide if he should be removed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:03:52am

re: #130 teleskiguy

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Is that why he can’t break 50% approval despite his “awesome accomplishments.” Money doesn’t tell shit especially given a lot of his money is coming from wealthy interests.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:04:53am

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

The Guardian reported it thusly:

Here’s the Daily Beast’s coverage of the incident and provenance of the tape:

In addition Marcy Wheeler compiled all the coverage of Barr going to Italy to listen to the deposition, which Mifsud reportedly handed to the Italians when he applied for asylum.

Marcy also goes back and establishes the initial impetus for Barr’s and Durham’s trip:

So if you’re done talking down to me and acting like a gigantic asshole the underlying point Stedman is trying to make in his tweet seems perfectly valid. Instead of directly interviewing actual FBI agents or primary fact witnesses in the case, Durham is letting Barr drag him around the world to listen to random videotapes of fever swamp retcon bullshit from Mifsud, who for all intents and purposes acts exactly like a Russian asset.

Thanks for the additional sources. The original one is crap, though, and would make Breitbart look reputable. I would think it’s fair to challenge it as a source.

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:05:20am

re: #121 Stanley Sea

TWEET TWEET

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“Multiple” could be two.
Could be 29.
Could be semantics
Could be time to start shitting your pants

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:06:28am

re: #122 ericblair

He just called the Democrats united: he’s really lost all touch with reality.

However, Democrats are as united now as we are going to get, and props to everybody involved for that. What unites Republicans is self-interested greed and fear, which can fall apart pretty catastrophically.

Nothing he says has to be true or accurate. Or be true tomorrow. It just has to fit the current/instant narrative

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:08:28am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Lincoln. Only one term in Congress but he was wise as much as Trump is ignorant.

Hell most any ethical lawyer type who read the Constitution would be better

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:10:29am

re: #130 teleskiguy

- Obama didn’t need as much money to win reelection
- there are 12 Dems running so Dem donations are both spread around and being held back till the field thins

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:11:46am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Makes it harder for them to derail/silence them all, because that seems to be their strategy.

Later on, we find out that the number of whistleblowers is the total number of CIA employees.

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uncah91  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:12:54am

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Lincoln. Only one term in Congress but he was wise as much as Trump is ignorant.

Lincoln was involved in politics long before he ran for President. I don’t think it’s accurate to call him an outsider.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:13:35am

re: #137 DangerMan

Hell most any ethical lawyer type who read the Constitution would be better

Absolutely. Part of the job is delegating. Is anyone honestly wowed by what Pompeo is doing at Foggy Bottom or what Barr is doing at RFK. These aren’t Lincoln’s Team of Rivals. This is Trump’s Team of Lackeys. No one challenges him. It’s not merely Trump is lacking the Professional qualifications to be potus. He lacks the character traits that make people who may not necessarily have the best resume for potus but do have the intellect and skills to be able administrators.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:14:45am

re: #140 uncah91

Lincoln was involved in politics long before he ran for President. I don’t think it’s accurate to call him an outsider.

An outsider to Washington but definitely fair enough since he was literally a co-founder of the Republican Party which funnily I recall Obama mentioning to GOP outrage.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:18:02am

In fact Ronna doesn’t consider at all that I think many Americans even some right leaning ones are sick of Trump’s drama. Maybe some of them think a lot of the criticism is overblown but whereas usually an incumbent can argue their re-election means stability, Trump can’t argue that.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:18:59am

re: #109 teleskiguy

What. An. Asshole.

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If Democrats were united, you would have been impeached on January 4th this year.

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mmmirele  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:19:04am

re: #8 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:22:31am

re: #145 mmmirele

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I was told that the Jewish and subsequent Islamic prohibition on consuming pork products is because the screams of hogs resemble mankind more. We’re in a world far removed from where the average person is intimately involved in agriculture. I think that speaks to your point about considering the times holy books were written.

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uncah91  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:24:38am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

An outsider to Washington but definitely fair enough since he was literally a founder of the Republican Party which funnily I recall Obama mentioning to GOP outrage.

Yeah, I think I’d say Lincoln fits more in the category of “reformer” than “outsider”. Usually, when we talk about the body politics hunger for an “outsider”, it’s more about the desire for someone who doesn’t have any particular interest in the rules of politics. It’s the rejection of what is seen as process over results, as if the process was the issue. It’s the hunger for the “man in charge” who “just gets things done”.

Now mind you, you could say some of the same about reformers, but usually they do care deeply about process, principals and law. Because it is the law that stands between us and the worst of our own impulses.

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teleskiguy  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:26:12am
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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:26:48am

re: #144 Belafon

If Democrats were united, you would have been impeached on January 4th this year.

Unlike r’s there isn’t one kind of Dem
Heck just look at the 12 running for prez

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mmmirele  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:27:02am

re: #15 NO SMOCKING GUN!

This article says what I said here a couple of days ago. SCOTUS is going to make abortion illegal in much of the country, without even reversing Roe, but rather eviscerating it.

And, to be blunt about it, making abortion illegal doesn’t mean that abortion will stop. All it means is that legal abortions in states like California and New York will become harder to get and women will turn to potentially dangerous underground sources of abortion, just as happened prior to Roe v. Wade. What saved the US from a massive number of deaths in those years was the availability of antibiotics. Now that antibiotics are becoming less useful, it’s entirely possible women will die.

If you want a preview for what it will be like, just go to Brazil or Argentina, where there are medical wards filled with women who attempted abortions and it turned dangerously bad. Women don’t stop getting abortions because it’s illegal or nearly so. The financial and social pressures that push abortion are still there.

The abortion pill may alleviate some of the danger, but it is concerning that women may be taking it without medical supervision, because it doesn’t always work.

We’re in for bad times, folks.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:27:29am

re: #147 uncah91

Yeah, I think I’d say Lincoln fits more in the category of “reformer” than “outsider”. Usually, when we talk about the body politics hunger for an “outsider”, it’s more about the desire for someone who doesn’t have any particular interest in the rules of politics. It’s the rejection of what is seen as process over results, as if the process was the issue. It’s the hunger for the “man in charge” who “just gets things done”.

Now mind you, you could say some of the same about reformers, but usually they do care deeply about process, principals and law. Because it is the law that stands between us and the worst of our own impulses.

Definitely. We could use a Lincoln right now. I’ve been teaching my five year old niece a little about the Presidents. I always tell her Abe is my favorite. She’s more partial to Washington. And I can’t argue since Washington had a lot of wisdom in first turning down an offer of king and then retiring after two terms.

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:29:30am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I was told that the Jewish and subsequent Islamic prohibition on consuming pork products is because the screams of hogs resemble mankind more. We’re in a world far removed from where the average person is intimately involved in agriculture. I think that speaks to your point about considering the times holy books were written.

Veal Parmigiana

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:30:57am

re: #152 DangerMan

Veal Parmigiana

Yeah veal is a lot more taboo than it used to be. I like veal but I admit, I’d feel bad eating it regularly.

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:31:51am

re: #147 uncah91

Yeah, I think I’d say Lincoln fits more in the category of “reformer” than “outsider”. Usually, when we talk about the body politics hunger for an “outsider”, it’s more about the desire for someone who doesn’t have any particular interest in the rules of politics. It’s the rejection of what is seen as process over results, as if the process was the issue. It’s the hunger for the “man in charge” who “just gets things done”.

Now mind you, you could say some of the same about reformers, but usually they do care deeply about process, principals and law. Because it is the law that stands between us and the worst of our own impulses.

My experience is that outsider means not so much has no interest in the rules but has not been corrupted by the process/system

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:32:17am

re: #145 mmmirele

Free, not every Christian takes the Bible literally. The Bible is a record of man’s attempts to reach out to God. The texts have to be studied within their historical and social milieux, not yanked out as proof texts for whatever crazy happens to strike one’s mind.

Science and the Bible are not necessarily in conflict unless you are a dogmatic Fundamentalist Biblical Literalist.

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mmmirele  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:34:33am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I was told that the Jewish and subsequent Islamic prohibition on consuming pork products is because the screams of hogs resemble mankind more. We’re in a world far removed from where the average person is intimately involved in agriculture. I think that speaks to your point about considering the times holy books were written.

That’s actually an interesting thought. So far as I know, there are no extended examinations of more modern scriptures (such as the Book of Mormon* and the Urantia Book) as products of their time. For the latter, I remember Martin Gardner wrote a skeptical takedown of the whole Urantia movement. He pointed out that the writings in the Urantia Book were not awfully revelatory but situated completely within the upper middle class milieu of the people who were the recipients of the Urantia Papers. One could probably do the same with other, more modern, channeled material and come to similar conclusions-very human documents, written within their times as an attempt to explain the essentially unexplainable.

*Yes, I am very aware that the Mormon church sees this as an ancient document. There is no evidence for same.

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:35:34am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

Definitely. We could use a Lincoln right now. I’ve been teaching my five year old niece a little about the Presidents. I always tell her Abe is my favorite. She’s more partial to Washington. And I can’t argue since Washington had a lot of wisdom in first turning down an offer of king and then retiring after two terms.

Washington started that long inevitable trend of cutting down all the rainforests /

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:36:46am

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Yeah veal is a lot more taboo than it used to be. I like veal but I admit, I’d feel bad eating it regularly.

Ok but I was going in an entirely different direction. ;-)

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:38:33am

They’re doing a story on CBS this morning about Lizzo. It was really good and I think almost every young kid, especially girls, should see it.

Lizzo got a music scholarship for the flute to the University of Houson. She went back, and was talking in front of the band and asked to borrow a piccolo. And all the players were waving their instruments at her in the “pick mine and I will never wash it again way.”

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:42:49am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Science and the Bible are not necessarily in conflict unless you are a dogmatic Fundamentalist Biblical Literalist.

Reconciling science and religion is a fools errand imo.
Even smart people who have tried I think failed miserably
They are best off staying in their own worlds

- science and its quest is to understand, to believe that; by virtue of independent, repeatable and transparent proof.
- religion and its quest is to believe in; to have faith without proof.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:46:34am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. We’re finally experiencing fall here (well, somewhat like fall). After 90 degree record last week, we had freeze/frost warnings over the past day or so just north and west of NYC.

But that’s not what should send chills down your spine.

It’s that we’ve got whistleblower number two, and they’re not only confirming everything number one said, but everything that Trump said on video, Trump readout stated, and corroborates the fact that Trumpworld engages in quid pro quo activities to use US foreign policy for expressly going after Trump political enemies.

Trump continually lies and makes up bulkshit - claiming that the first whistleblower was making up stuff, even though it expressly corroborates what Trump himself has repeatedly stated on video.

Media outlets need to stop with the magic balance fairy both sides bulkshit. Trump is a corrupt criminal whose statements are all deflections, obfuscations, and lies about Trump’s criminal conduct. He wants to go after Biden claiming Biden did all the things Trump has actually done (and is still doing). Trump wants to smear Hunter Biden, when his own kids are enriching themselves precisely because they’re working for the administration and using the levers and power of government to direct taxpayer funds and activities at their businesses. It’s not just the golf business every fucking weekend. It’s the Scotland golf resort and USAF sorties that have to overnight at a Trump hotel despite not being the closest or cheapest stay near the airport.

It’s Pence staying at a Trump business 100s of miles from where he was supposed to meet with govt officials. It’s all the foreign countries and lobbyists knowing that the quickest route to Trump access and him doing what they want is to stay at a Trump business or to give Trumpworld benefits they would never ordinarily ever get.

It’s a criminal conspiracy all the way down, and the GOP are complicit in all of this.

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:46:40am

Apparently Rick Perry is not ready to go gently under that good bus

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:48:20am
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Stanley Sea  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:53:36am

re: #162 DangerMan

Apparently Rick Perry is not ready to go gently under that good bus

??

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:54:25am
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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:55:33am
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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:56:13am

re: #161 lawhawk

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:56:19am

re: #166 DangerMan

And yet the GOP bends over backwards to protect a clearly criminal Trump.

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Jay C  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:56:48am

re: #130 teleskiguy

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I think the main subtext of Ronna McDaniel’s “Dollars are the real polls” statement is that, for the GOP, anyway, “Dollars are the real electorate”.

I wonder how those figures break down? For Democrats,, $125 million in contributions is likely to be a million people giving $125 each: for Republicans probably less than a dozen donors….

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 7:58:03am

re: #164 Stanley Sea

??

Oops

Politicalwire.com

When it comes to dealings with Ukraine, Energy Secretary Rick Perry told CBN News he probably has the most expansive relationships as any cabinet secretary but says he’s never heard Joe Biden or his son Hunter come up in conversation.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:01:43am

re: #170 DangerMan

Oops

Politicalwire.com

Later this week, stories about Trump being furious with Perry and calling him names. Perry is awful in his own ways but he rightfully doesn’t want to be Trump’s fall guy.

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mmmirele  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:02:40am

re: #159 Belafon

They’re doing a story on CBS this morning about Lizzo. It was really good and I think almost every young kid, especially girls, should see it.

Lizzo got a music scholarship for the flute to the University of Houson. She went back, and was talking in front of the band and asked to borrow a piccolo. And all the players were waving their instruments at her in the “pick mine and I will never wash it again way.”

Here’s that Lizzo story. It’s great. I didn’t know she attended the University of Houston (one of my universities).

cbsnews.com

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:03:04am

re: #166 DangerMan

This tells you just how cowardly R Senators are being, and by cowardly, I mean greedy. They’re already set for the rest of their lives. They just want even more.

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retired cynic  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:04:04am

re: #167 Rightwingconspirator

Needs more greenish-grey tinge to the whipped hair.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:05:40am

re: #172 mmmirele

Here’s that Lizzo story. It’s great. I didn’t know she attended the University of Houston (one of my universities).

cbsnews.com

Thanks for finding it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:05:51am

re: #160 DangerMan

Reconciling science and religion is a fools errand imo.

Science is about how, religion is about why

But we really do not teach what science is (and what it is not) which leads to a lot of confusion and false claims/conclusions

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:09:46am

Chuck Todd having none of it from Ron Johnson

Link

Chuck found a spare spine?
Or too much bran with breakfast?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:11:10am

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:13:30am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Science is about how, religion is about why

But we really do not teach what science is (and what it is not) which leads to a lot of confusion and false claims/conclusions

Well put.

And the problem with both is when they delve into the other.

Religion claiming here’s how…without gerpnerally accepted scientific proof
Science claiming here’s why….

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:14:08am

Bunker time.

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danarchy  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:18:59am

re: #169 Jay C

I think the main subtext of Ronna McDaniel’s “Dollars are the real polls” statement is that, for the GOP, anyway, “Dollars are the real electorate”.

I wonder how those figures break down? For Democrats,, $125 million in contributions is likely to be a million people giving $125 each: for Republicans probably less than a dozen donors….

It would be great if this was true, but if I recall correctly the average Trump donation was pretty low, under $100. They had over 300000 new first time donors this quarter. I don’t think we should fool ourselves into believing he doesn’t have a disconcertingly large base of support.

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Jay C  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:19:07am

re: #170 DangerMan

Oops

politicalwire.com

When it comes to dealings with Ukraine, Energy Secretary Rick Perry told CBN News he probably has the most expansive relationships as any cabinet secretary but says he’s never heard Joe Biden or his son Hunter come up in conversation.

So what does this even mean?

I guess it depends on how the regime is planning to/thinks it can spin it. “Biden name didn’t come up” can mean either:

A) No dirt-digging was solicited, i.e. FAKE NEWS!! HOAX!! spin vindicated; or

B) (much more likely IMO) Rick Perry was out of the loop on the dirt-hunting/quid-pro-quo stuff, and is now being set up* as the Fall Guy. Or Convenient Witness, take your pick.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:19:33am

re: #180 jaunte

Insane Twitter rants coming in 3…2…1…

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:19:58am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I was told that the Jewish and subsequent Islamic prohibition on consuming pork products is because the screams of hogs resemble mankind more. We’re in a world far removed from where the average person is intimately involved in agriculture. I think that speaks to your point about considering the times holy books were written.

Goat screams sound more human than pig squeals so that can’t be the reason.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:20:39am

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

I imagine there’s a lot of cursing at aides who have no idea what to suggest to him next.

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:22:59am

re: #182 Jay C

So what does this even mean?

I guess it depends on how the regime is planning to/thinks it can spin it. “Biden name didn’t come up” can mean either:

A) No dirt-digging was solicited, i.e. FAKE NEWS!! HOAX!! spin vindicated; or

B) (much more likely IMO) Rick Perry was out of the loop on the dirt-hunting/quid-pro-quo stuff, and is now being set up* as the Fall Guy. Or Convenient Witness, take your pick.

B.

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danarchy  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:23:10am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I was told that the Jewish and subsequent Islamic prohibition on consuming pork products is because the screams of hogs resemble mankind more. We’re in a world far removed from where the average person is intimately involved in agriculture. I think that speaks to your point about considering the times holy books were written.

I seriously doubt this is the reason. More likely they saw pigs will literally eat just about anything. Including excrement from other animals etc. They probably also noticed a lot of people getting sick from eating pork even if they had no idea what trichinosis was.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:24:29am

re: #184 The Pie Overlord!

Goat screams sound more human than pig squeals so that can’t be the reason.

Yeah I think so too.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:24:30am

re: #187 danarchy

Smart to put a religious prohibition on something literally unclean that would sicken you.

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retired cynic  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:25:10am

re: #184 The Pie Overlord!

Goat screams sound more human than pig squeals so that can’t be the reason.

So do peacock yells: HALP!

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BigPapa  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:25:38am

Jared Kushner to lead Trump’s impeachment defense — and Twitter asks what could possibly go wrong

A most brilliant plan! It’s time to get out the really good popcorn.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:25:43am

re: #187 danarchy

I seriously doubt this is the reason. More likely they saw pigs will literally eat just about anything. Including excrement from other animals etc. They probably also noticed a lot of people getting sick from eating pork even if they had no idea what trichinosis was.

I dunno. My point is that a lot of what we deem acceptable comes from a different time. But yeah there’s a reason why pigs are considered dirty animals compared to cattle and poultry.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:25:58am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:26:07am

I’m seeing various blood-curdling threats from Oaf-Keepers and other semi-organized pro-Trump gangs. It occurred to me that if you went back 40 years and told Yuri Andropov that there would someday be masses of armed pro-Russian partisans operating openly in the US, and that this would happen within the lifetime of people who were already adults at the time, he would have declared you insane and had you sent you away to the nuthouse/gulag for treatment.

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:27:44am

re: #191 BigPapa

Jared Kushner to lead Trump’s impeachment defense — and Twitter asks what could possibly go wrong

A most brilliant plan! It’s time to get out the really good popcorn.

OMG that Thanksgiving after the #greatfail

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:28:47am

re: #194 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m seeing various blood-curdling threats from Oaf-Keepers and other semi-organized pro-Trump gangs. It occurred to me that if you went back 40 years and told Yuri Andropov that there would someday be masses of armed pro-Russian partisans operating openly in the US, and that this would happen within the lifetime of people who were already adults at the time, he would have declared you insane and had you sent you away to the nuthouse/gulag for treatment.

Yeah. Somewhere the old Soviets are in awe that American right wingers are taking Putin’s narrative over our IC.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:36:24am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Stedman is quoting The Epoch Times, the Falun Gong nutbar paper which posts conspiracy theories and was the second-largest buyer of adverts on Facebook for Trump’s campaign after Trump himself.

Yes and those religious nutcases are flooding YouTube with their Trump asskissing ads.

Falun Gong kisses Trump’s ass the same way Rev. Moon and his stooges kissed Nixon’s ass!

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sagehen  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:43:19am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

I was told that the Jewish and subsequent Islamic prohibition on consuming pork products is because the screams of hogs resemble mankind more. We’re in a world far removed from where the average person is intimately involved in agriculture. I think that speaks to your point about considering the times holy books were written.

The prohibition on pork isn’t specifically stated as “pork” — the kosher rules say things like
“split hoof” or “chews its cud.” For seafood, does it have scales and fins? For birds, predator and scavenger species are un-kosher. Reptiles, amphibians, worms and most insects are forbidden.

It’s not about their noise; it’s about what the animals themselves eat, because who the hell knows what they’ve got in their systems.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:45:13am

re: #198 sagehen

The prohibition on pork isn’t specifically stated as “pork” — the kosher rules say things like
“split hoof” or “chews its cud.” For seafood, does it have scales and fins? For birds, predator and scavenger species are un-kosher. Reptiles, amphibians, worms and most insects are forbidden.

It’s not about their noise; it’s about what the animals themselves eat, because who the hell knows what they’ve got in their systems.

a number of explanations. cattle/goat herders can be nomadic. swine can only be kept if one is settled.

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Skip Intro  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:45:17am

re: #138 DangerMan

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- Obama didn’t need as much money to win reelection
- there are 12 Dems running so Dem donations are both spread around and being held back till the field thins

They’ll need at least double that after Trump takes his 50% off the top.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:47:42am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s what they wanted. My point is we have someone who has no idea about the office they’re in charge of. Like past awful Presidents. Yes, they were awful but in my life and reading of history, we have never had a President that misunderstood what the Presidency was so profoundly. That may have been Trump appealing to some but imo it’s also going to be his downfall along with his inability to ever admit being wrong.

As I’ve said before Trump makes Buchanan look like Superman and Andrew Johnson look like Captain America!

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Jay C  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:50:40am

re: #181 danarchy

It would be great if this was true, but if I recall correctly the average Trump donation was pretty low, under $100. They had over 300000 new first time donors this quarter. I don’t think we should fool ourselves into believing he doesn’t have a disconcertingly large base of support.

Oh, I’m not underestimating the numbers of the donor base: it’s just that for a Party with a (so far) unchallenged incumbent looking for second term, the donation pattern a year out from the election is typically wholesale, rather than retail. Which analysis seems to incorrect this time.

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Skip Intro  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:54:28am

Trump’s Interior Dept decides to open up all Federal land in CA to fracking, over 300 written objections, all of which Interior calls “invalid”. This is going to be one hell of a fight.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:56:29am

re: #201 Joe Bacon 🌹

As I’ve said before Trump makes Buchanan look like Superman and Andrew Johnson look like Captain America!

That causes me to recall a round of Dozens on the streets of Gary, Indiana between my buddies Melvin Gates and Patrick Melaine, it was building up to the mother-and-father part of the put-down, to which Melvin commented: “Yo mama look like Superman and yo’ fatha look like Rin-TIn-Tin!”

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mmmirele  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:57:16am

Cats in therapy. Another Ze Frank production.

Cats In Therapy

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:57:25am

re: #130 teleskiguy

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Thanksgiving dinner at the Romney’s is going to go off the rails…

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2019 • 8:58:49am

re: #187 danarchy

I seriously doubt this is the reason. More likely they saw pigs will literally eat just about anything. Including excrement from other animals etc. They probably also noticed a lot of people getting sick from eating pork even if they had no idea what trichinosis was.

Trichinosis is the most likely explanation. Some poor schmuck ate an undercooked pork chop back during the Neolithic Age and that left one hell of an impression, namely, that the animal was somehow cursed and anyone who ate its flesh would certainly die as a result of that curse.

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sagehen  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:04:00am

Animals with paws are ABSOLUTELY DEFINITELY not kosher.

Lions and tigers and bears (and dogs and cats and mice and rabbits) — TREIF!! TREIF!!

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:04:19am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

I recently heard Professor Jennie Brand-Miller speaking about her research on evolutionary nutrition; she pointed out that compared to the nutritive improvement in cooking starchy tubers, cooking meat did not add as much value, so the practice of eating uncooked or undercooked meats has probably persisted throughout human evolution.
sydney.edu.au

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:06:57am

Party of Thugs.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:08:11am

re: #209 jaunte

I recently heard Professor Jennie Brand-Miller speaking about her research on evolutionary nutrition; she pointed out that compared to the nutritive improvement in cooking starchy tubers, cooking meat did not add as much value, so the practice of eating uncooked or undercooked meats has probably persisted throughout human evolution.
sydney.edu.au

Interesting. I’ll have to check that out.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:11:06am
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lizardofid  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:11:36am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

Trichinosis is the most likely explanation. Some poor schmuck ate an undercooked pork chop back during the Neolithic Age and that left one hell of an impression, namely, that the animal was somehow cursed and anyone who ate its flesh would certainly die as a result of that curse.

A good meat thermometer might have changed things.

Hello everyone!

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William Lewis  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:14:48am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

Trichinosis is the most likely explanation. Some poor schmuck ate an undercooked pork chop back during the Neolithic Age and that left one hell of an impression, namely, that the animal was somehow cursed and anyone who ate its flesh would certainly die as a result of that curse.

Still can. One theory about Mozart’s death is trichinosis and there was a set of cases in Hawaii a couple of years ago from an undercooked pig roast.

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lizardofid  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:17:28am

re: #209 jaunte

I recently heard Professor Jennie Brand-Miller speaking about her research on evolutionary nutrition; she pointed out that compared to the nutritive improvement in cooking starchy tubers, cooking meat did not add as much value, so the practice of eating uncooked or undercooked meats has probably persisted throughout human evolution.
sydney.edu.au

There was a series on NPR about the history of food that got in to the science of it. The way cooking unlocked the nutrients in rice was truly remarkable.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:18:17am

Now that the Qwazy Qs are turning on Pence…wondering when Pence will turn on Captain Cheeseburger…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:20:17am

re: #210 jaunte

Party of Thugs.

Does Rudy even have any nephews?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:20:58am

re: #216 Joe Bacon 🌹

Now that the Qwazy Qs are turning on Pence…wondering when Pence will turn on Captain Cheeseburger…

That’s General Admiral Cheeseburder to you! But yeah doesn’t surprise me. That’s what happens when you build a cult of personality up.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:27:34am

...

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:42:16am

re: #169 Jay C

I think the main subtext of Ronna McDaniel’s “Dollars are the real polls” statement is that, for the GOP, anyway, “Dollars are the real electorate”.

I wonder how those figures break down? For Democrats,, $125 million in contributions is likely to be a million people giving $125 each: for Republicans probably less than a dozen donors….

Corporations are people…

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Danack  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:47:35am

If you’ve ever wanted to see a good example of a “face like thunder”, here you go:

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ericblair  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:55:32am

re: #187 danarchy

I seriously doubt this is the reason. More likely they saw pigs will literally eat just about anything.

Pigs will eat anything, but goats will eat ANYTHING.

Also, rabbit is treif? Honest question. It’s pretty common in western Europe in the grocery stores.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2019 • 9:56:37am

re: #222 ericblair

Pigs will eat anything, but goats will eat ANYTHING.

Also, rabbit is treif? Honest question. It’s pretty common in western Europe in the grocery stores.

and chickens will eat other chickens

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:01:54am

I didn’t read the linked article, but my guess about Jared leading the impeachment defense is that he has connections to foreign intel services that might help muddy waters (in addition to what Barr is up to) or try to get oppo on key Dems.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:05:24am

he is so nutz

is it raining so he can’t golf?

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:07:54am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes. There is a chance of rain.
forecast.weather.gov

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Alephnaught  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:12:02am

re: #172 mmmirele

Here’s that Lizzo story. It’s great. I didn’t know she attended the University of Houston (one of my universities).

cbsnews.com

Lizzo’s set was one of the highlights of the Glastonbury Festival this year.

Lizzo - Juice (Glastonbury 2019)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:14:11am
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Weaselone  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:15:00am

re: #59 steve_davis

oh please. the cops don’t actually have a Hat Squad driving around executing people who testify against cops. He was either mistaken for someone else by drug dealers, or he was doing something that got him executed by drug dealers.

Let me give you an alternate explanation. He was killed by a random asshat who didn’t like that his testimony put a white female officer behind bars. You know,a slightly more violent version of the people who got another witness fired by harassing her employer - or were those people also just random drug dealers?

There’s a lot of drug related murders in this country, but not so many that your random guy with no history of involvement in the drug trade is likely to get ambushed and killed on any given day getting out of his car in front of his apartment building.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:16:09am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

and chickens will eat other chickens

We used to keep chickens. I always found it satisfying to feed them the shells from the eggs they had laid. Like organic recycling.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:18:14am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

Trichinosis is the most likely explanation. Some poor schmuck ate an undercooked pork chop back during the Neolithic Age and that left one hell of an impression, namely, that the animal was somehow cursed and anyone who ate its flesh would certainly die as a result of that curse.

The stringent prohibition on lobster would explain some poor schmuck who ate one without cooking it alive.

Now I’m thinking, who was the first person to think, Hey, if we boil this sucker alive maybe we can eat it and not throw up!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:24:20am

Adorable, and terrifying

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:31:07am

KOSHER MEAT:
Beef
Sheep
Goat
Venison
(any animal that ruminates & has a split hoof)

KOSHER FOWL:
Chicken
Turkey
Duck
Goose
Pigeon
Dove

NON-KOSHER ANIMALS:
Pig
Rabbit
Horse
Mule
Camel
Dog
Cat

KOSHER FISH:
Must have fins & scales
NON-KOSHER SEAFOOD:
Whale
Walrus
Dolphin
Lobster
Shrimp
Crab
Clam
Oyster
Eel
Swordfish
Shark

Now according to my DNA results I have 1.1% Eskimo/Inuit so I am a descendant of Whale & Walrus Eaters!

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:31:58am

re: #231 The Pie Overlord!

The stringent prohibition on lobster would explain some poor schmuck who ate one without cooking it alive.

Now I’m thinking, who was the first person to think, Hey, if we boil this sucker alive maybe we can eat it and not throw up!

I sometime think about the poor shlubs who discovered - with quite unfortunate results - what not to eat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:32:47am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

You do have an obligation to investigate corruption Donnie.

The problem is you are asking OTHER COUNTRIES TO DO IT FOR YOU.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:36:03am

re: #233 The Pie Overlord!

Do you get any free days? Like on Leap Year or a Blue Moon?

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:41:18am

apparently Louisiana hasn’t suffered enough

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:41:58am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:43:11am
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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:43:15am

aka, expect lots of tweets

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:47:19am

re: #63 teleskiguy

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Damm it

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:48:36am
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Jay C  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:52:55am

re: #238 jaunte

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Jeeez, Mike: isn’t the answer obvious?

This Administration doesn’t care in the goddamn least about “preventing interference” in the 2020 election: their sole concern is to make sure that said interference benefits them (Trump & GOP), and them only….

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:53:25am

re: #242 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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parody account but yeah

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mmmirele  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:55:43am

The twits at Desiring God (the “ministry” of John Piper, a Baptist Calvinist), tweeted this out yesterday.

Twitter is ripping them apart, as well they should be.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 10:58:06am

re: #245 mmmirele

The twits at Desiring God (the “ministry” of John Piper, a Baptist Calvinist), tweeted this out yesterday.

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Twitter is ripping them apart, as well they should be.

That doesn’t make me like their God.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:01:35am

re: #231 The Pie Overlord!

The stringent prohibition on lobster would explain some poor schmuck who ate one without cooking it alive.

Now I’m thinking, who was the first person to think, Hey, if we boil this sucker alive maybe we can eat it and not throw up!

I will always want to know who decided to boil an egg.

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mmmirele  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:02:21am

re: #246 HappyWarrior

That doesn’t make me like their God.

I’d rather listen to the gospel of Daniel Johnston:

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:04:06am
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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:04:19am

re: #247 Belafon

I will always want to know who decided to boil an egg.

The same guy who threw away the fruit, dried the seed of the coffee plant, roasted it and figured out to add water?

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:06:24am

re: #250 b.d. (It’s all true)

Who said it was a guy? It might have been a woman. :)

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:07:34am
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lizardofid  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:07:59am

re: #250 b.d. (It’s all true)

The same guy who threw away the fruit, dried the seed of the coffee plant, roasted it and figured out to add water?

Caffeine deprived ancient astronauts?

//

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:10:11am

re: #251 PhillyPretzel

The first chemists.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:13:10am
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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:15:09am

This poster is to Fine Art as Donald Trump is to President.

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austin_blue  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:15:19am

re: #179 DangerMan

Well put.

And the problem with both is when they delve into the other.

Religion claiming here’s how…without gerpnerally accepted scientific proof
Science claiming here’s why….

S. J. Gould said they were non-overlapping magisteria. I defer to his expertise. Always. RIP, SJG.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:18:17am

re: #255 jaunte

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It looks like he is falling off a building.

lol, the Russians called a meeting to tell him they didn’t need him any more?

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:19:07am

re: #258 b.d. (It’s all true)

He fought the law of gravity and the law won.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:19:11am

re: #245 mmmirele

The twits at Desiring God (the “ministry” of John Piper, a Baptist Calvinist), tweeted this out yesterday.

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Twitter is ripping them apart, as well they should be.

I’ve dealt with Calvinists who were in Mom’s Orthodox Presbyterian Church and they really are into the “TULIP” shit.

Calvinism can be summed up as “TULIP” with:

Total Depravity—Man is born depraved and is inherently lost.

Unconditional Election—BUT, The Big G predestined a small elite to be saved. Everyone else goes to the BBQ joint for all eternity no matter how they live their lives. Do note the inconsistency with the first point

Limited Atonement—JC sacrificed himself for those The Big G preselected. Everyone else—BBQ time…

Irresistible Grace—Once the Big G grabs you by the MEOW you can’t let go. But this point is also inconsistent with the first point

Preservation of the Saints—God preserves His people so they can never be lost. To put it simply, it means this: “Once you are saved, you are always saved.” Even after Falwell Jr paid $1.8 million to ride the “Three Way Of Love” with his pool stud, he’s still saved…but Bill Clinton is going to the BBQ pit…

I would get in arguments with Mom’s pastor. He always got pissed off that I followed Dad into Judaism. He really got pissed off the time I recited Nichiren Daimoku when he started his asinine babbling.

Moral of the story—You can’t engage in a battle of wits with brain-dead Xtians.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:23:01am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:23:42am

re: #248 mmmirele

I’d rather listen to the gospel of Daniel Johnston:

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I’d rather listen to the Gospel of Roddenberry, “Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations”!

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:28:18am

I just saw this on the WHYY website (this news item is from NPR):
whyy.org

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:28:50am

Damn…had to work all morning and was dying for a report on CNN and NBC

NBC’s “Meet the Press”: Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Chris Murphy (D-Conn.)

CNN’s “State of the Union”: GOP presidential candidates former Gov. Mark Sanford (R-S.C.) and former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.), Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.)

Other than Chuck Todd not taking anything from Ron Johnson…I couldn’t watch. Anyone have the Cliff Notes of what happened?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:29:30am

re: #263 PhillyPretzel

I just saw this on the WHYY website (this news item is from NPR):
whyy.org

Yes, another Steven Miller wet dream that was proposed a couple days ago.

Miller needs to be indicted on kidnapping and murder charges.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:30:02am

re: #264 MsJ

Damn…had to work all morning and was dying for a report on CNN and NBC

Other than Chuck Todd not taking anything from Ron Johnson…I couldn’t watch. Anyone have the Cliff Notes of what happened?

What????

Chuck U stood up to Johnson WHACKS??????

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:31:09am
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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:32:38am

re: #266 Joe Bacon 🌹

What????

Chuck U stood up to Johnson WHACKS??????

I think that Chuck has figured out that this was his moment in time.

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stpaulbear  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:35:33am

re: #255 jaunte

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They’ve got 10,000 copies with “087 of 500” printed on them.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:36:34am

re: #269 stpaulbear

“Limited first edition.”

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DangerMan  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:36:48am

re: #257 austin_blue

S. J. Gould said they were non-overlapping magisteria. I defer to his expertise. Always. RIP, SJG.

Precisely

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calochortus  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:37:11am

re: #270 jaunte

“Limited first edition.”

Limited to the number they can sell.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:39:18am

This would be a fun basement.

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Jay C  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:40:55am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

More like the “uphold your reputation train” for Bill Barr has not only left the station, but left the station, hit a bridge abutment, derailed, rolled down the embankment and caught fire.

But back at the station, management is still selling tickets, insisting there’s nothing at all going wrong. And hoping the passengers won’t notice or have questions about the huge yellow crane on the flatcar slowly trundling down the track….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:42:18am

re: #272 calochortus

Limited to the number they can sell.

“Business is great! Completely sold out on my first shipment!”

“Yeah but you only made five of them…”

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Jay C  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:42:53am

re: #270 jaunte

“Limited first edition.”

The “limited second edition” will be 10,000 prints all numbered “107/500”…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:43:30am

Keep digging, Captain Cheeseburger! Keep Digging!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:46:53am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Barr is finding out what he should have known from the start. And that’s that Trump is only into protecting himself. Should have just been the endnote to Iran-Contra, Bill but you had to write the op ed defending firing Comey and go all out lying about the Mueller Report. But don’t worry, I’m sure you’ll get a nice book deal after you lose your law license.

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:47:40am

This is chilling and and more.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:47:43am

re: #273 jaunte

This would be a fun basement.

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Wow what a find.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:48:33am

re: #279 MsJ

This is chilling and and more.

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Very. That’s honestly one of the scariest things I’ve read.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:49:07am

Hello, is this the DC Comics Legal Department?

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MsJ  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:49:36am

re: #279 MsJ

This is chilling and happening more and more.

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Fucking shitty iOS.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:49:53am

re: #282 jaunte

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Hello, is this the DC Comics Legal Department?

Superman vs. Superasshole.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:50:07am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Reading into the article, it was found in 1963, but this is the first I’ve heard the story.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:50:33am

re: #284 Joe Bacon 🌹

Tracing a Superman poster, now that’s real art.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:52:08am

re: #285 jaunte

Reading into the article, it was found in 1963, but this is the first I’ve heard the story.

Yeah same. It’s amazing how much history is hiding beneath our homes, in our oceans, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:54:44am

re: #282 jaunte

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Hello, is this the DC Comics Legal Department?

In this version, Jonathan Kent is a kindly former kgb man named Vlad.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:56:54am

Too bad the Soviet propagandists never thought to remake Stalin as Superman given Stalin was literally the Man of Steel first.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:57:36am

4 more tweets hidden for space savings.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 6, 2019 • 11:59:01am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:00:18pm

re: #290 Dread Pirate

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That would be the same Paul Manafort that fucked over their country too. This is textbook extortion.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:00:47pm

re: #291 Dread Pirate

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Yes sounds like the implication to me.

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William Lewis  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:02:36pm

re: #233 The Pie Overlord!

Thank you for that list, it’s helpful to know. I am curious, I would have thought that swordfish was ok so it made me go look them up and I learned that they lose their scales while growing up so, hence, they don’t qualify. Love learning these kinds of things.

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William Lewis  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:04:34pm

re: #245 mmmirele

The twits at Desiring God (the “ministry” of John Piper, a Baptist Calvinist), tweeted this out yesterday.

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Twitter is ripping them apart, as well they should be.

Good God (that phrase intentional) what utter idiots.

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William Lewis  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:06:12pm

re: #247 Belafon

I will always want to know who decided to boil an egg.

I always figured they had some to crack and eat raw sitting there that fell into the soup pot. When fished out afterwards - hey, this tastes MUCH better than raw :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:06:58pm

re: #291 Dread Pirate

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I read something last night that there are at least three.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:10:24pm

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read something last night that there are at least three.

two are about Ukraine; the third, IIRC, involves the IRS

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:12:53pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

two are about Ukraine; the third, IIRC, involves the IRS

Yeah something about a Trump appointee at IRS interfering with an audit of Trump and or Pence.

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Chrysicat  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:16:20pm

I’m sorry, but when you not only see retaliatory murders by the cops, but they come three days after conviction, that’s an announcement they’re nothing but another criminal syndicate. And I’m not sure there’s a way for anyone who isn’t a cisgender white to ever trust any cop in the entire country even if they try to cure the corruption now.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:18:27pm

re: #96 sagehen

How many straws can a camel carry?

N-1

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:23:17pm

re: #294 William Lewis

Thank you for that list, it’s helpful to know. I am curious, I would have thought that swordfish was ok so it made me go look them up and I learned that they lose their scales while growing up so, hence, they don’t qualify. Love learning these kinds of things.

I got curious and looked that up once. Turns out it depends on which Rabbi you ask.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:24:43pm

re: #296 William Lewis

I always figured they had some to crack and eat raw sitting there that fell into the soup pot. When fished out afterwards - hey, this tastes MUCH better than raw :)

If you find out that one thing tastes better after cooking, you’re likely to try it out on everything else, too.

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mmmirele  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:24:54pm

re: #279 MsJ

This is chilling and and more.

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A guy who lived in my co-op in college and who is a radio professional had a similar thing happen to him a couple years ago. He complained to Customs but nothing happened.

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William Lewis  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:30:08pm

re: #300 Chrysicat

Even a bi CIS White Boy has family. I had little trust of cops before this; much less now.

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Jay C  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:30:40pm

re: #247 Belafon

I will always want to know who decided to boil an egg.

I think there has been a filmed documentary about this……

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:31:14pm

re: #286 jaunte

Tracing a Superman poster, now that’s real art.

Best artist since George Zimmerman

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CarolJ  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:35:05pm

Cooking also preserves food. Bread lasts longer as toast, dried meat, somethings are easier and softer once cooked, plus more storable. It’s the reason why the discovery of fire and cooking is just above books for tremendous discoveries.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 6, 2019 • 12:35:53pm

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