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gocart mozart  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:13:43pm

Good Krugman column on obtuse centrism

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gocart mozart  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:15:20pm
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:20:42pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:24:44pm

re: #3 jaunte

This is disgusting, even for a piece of shit like Trump. After his fortune is confiscated as restitution for his innumerable crimes, drop him in a war zone somewhere.

He really needs to have something serious to whine about before he dies.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:26:41pm

re: #4 EPR-radar

This statement needs to be ground into the faces of his supporters.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:26:52pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:26:54pm

File under: Not even remotely surprising.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:29:19pm

re: #3 jaunte

That was during the campaign. Why is it resurfacing now?

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garzooma  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:30:07pm

re: #3 jaunte

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Snopes rates this as “Mostly False”

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:36:17pm

re: #9 garzooma

Ah, thanks. He’s so comprehensively awful it’s odd that anyone feels the need to exaggerate.

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gocart mozart  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:37:01pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:41:06pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:42:19pm
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:42:55pm

re: #8 Colère Tueur de Lapin

That was during the campaign. Why is it resurfacing now?

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:43:53pm

Here is Eli Valley’s cartoon of Jared and Ivanka. In spoiler tags because it’s really creepy, even for Eli Valley. Happy Halloween & sweet dreams!

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retired cynic  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:45:00pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

Eeeek!

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gocart mozart  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:45:02pm
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garzooma  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:46:55pm

re: #13 gocart mozart

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Enes Kanter

@EnesKanter
This video from May 2017. Where #DictatorErdogan gave order to his security staff to beat up peaceful Kurdish protesters in Washington DC front of world’s eyes. Just think about what he is going to do to the Kurds in Syria.!

Note that Enes Kanter is a Turkish basketball player in the NBA, currently with the Boston Celtics.

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EPR-radar  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:48:53pm

re: #10 jaunte

Ah, thanks. He’s so comprehensively awful it’s odd that anyone feels the need to exaggerate.

This is why it’s so important to shift to the executive summary mode for Trump — he’s a lying evil sack of shit.

Any list of his specific outrages will be of semi-infinite length and prone to minor errors like all excessively lengthy lists. In the eyes of our both-siderist media, one typo on such a list cancels out thousands of real Trump outrages.

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gocart mozart  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:49:46pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:51:47pm

re: #20 gocart mozart

Of course Trump is doing that. $1 in Trump’s pocket is literally more important to him than every other human life on Earth, combined.

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gocart mozart  Oct 7, 2019 • 6:55:28pm

The comments are excellent

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:02:01pm

Trump cult followers didn’t give a flying f*ck about citizens getting massacred in mass shootings on our own soil, they sure as hell won’t give a damn about a genocide of Kurds thousands of miles away.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:07:41pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

When he’s right, he’s right.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:08:44pm

re: #18 garzooma

Note that Enes Kanter is a Turkish basketball player in the NBA, currently with the Boston Celtics.

Who if he went back home (or was extradited), he would be taken into custody and murdered.

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EPR-radar  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:10:50pm

re: #25 Ace Rothstein

Who if he went back home (or was extradited), he would be taken into custody and murdered.

If Turkey was interested in a deal like that, I’m sure they could bribe Trump to make it happen.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:12:03pm

Art of the deal.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:13:33pm

re: #27 Dread Pirate

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Art of the deal.

TPP shall now be known as Trump’s Pointless Plan.

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makeitstop  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:17:12pm

re: #18 garzooma

Note that Enes Kanter is a Turkish basketball player in the NBA, currently with the Boston Celtics.

He was a Knick last year. He couldn’t travel to see his family because he was afraid they’d detain him. His father was arrested by the Erdogan government.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:22:04pm

re: #22 gocart mozart

The comments are excellent

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I have no more tolerance for these assholes. I’m going George Constanza on them.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:24:04pm

re: #30 GlutenFreeJesus

“I don’t like him, but what they’re doing to him and his family isn’t right.”

Why would he choose a sentence absolutely never uttered by any Democrat anywhere?

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:25:26pm

Trump’s bullshit is making his own propagandists sloppy.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:25:58pm

Cardillo is a low-rent Chuck C. Johnson.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:29:39pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Schmucky is pretty low-rent himself.

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Chrysicat  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:34:40pm

Aunt Lindsey’s tweetstorm was all over my TL when I was catching up this evening after crashing out just before dawn, so I had hope.

Then a friend noticed that his TL was poisoned again afterwards, so I felt the need to say this since apparently no one had spelt it out yet.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:42:49pm

Rachel talks about how Trump and the GOP have hijacked and co-opted the language so that certain words and phrases can no longer be used to describe exactly what those words mean.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:48:01pm

Lre: #36 The Pie Overlord!

Rachel talks about how Trump and the GOP have hijacked and co-opted the language so that certain words and phrases can no longer be used to describe exactly what those words mean.

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The projection he does is amazing. He’s a fucking moron but he’s convinced arguably 1/3 of the electorate he can do no wrong. I’ll say it again. Trump may have a lower support ceiling than most politicians but his floor is much higher. He will never be as unpopular as Bush was in 2008. He’s created a political cult of personality.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:48:59pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

L

The projection he does is amazing. He’s a fucking moron but he’s convinced arguably 1/3 of the electorate he can do no wrong. I’ll say it again. Trump may have a lower support ceiling than most politicians but his floor is much higher. He will never be as unpopular as Bush was in 2008. He’s created a political cult of personality.

Just like my whole family would gladly line up to kiss Trump’s ass.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:51:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:52:59pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just like my whole family would gladly line up to kiss Trump’s ass.

Yeah same with some of my distant cousins. I even saw that one of them got his photo taken with Candice Owens. I’m civil to them since I run our extended family’s history page but I am so glad that our branch is staunchly liberal and anti Trump from my dad’s oldest sister to my little niece who makes fun of Trump.

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TedStriker  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:53:16pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Cardillo is a low-rent Chuck C. Johnson.

re: #34 Ace Rothstein

Schmucky is pretty low-rent himself.

So, I guess that make Cardillo “no-tell motel” fodder. I suppose?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:54:16pm

Breaking tomorrow for the Texas border at Beaumont, if there are enough bridges from here to NOLA. Yesterday I10 was so empty for a Sunday morning that I thought we might have missed the Rapture.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:56:47pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

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If you’re fucking distracted by your coworker being trans, you’re the problem not the transgendered coworker. I wish fucking conservatives for once would try to empathize for once in their lives but then again I’ve believed for a long time that genuine empathy Is what separates us. I’m not transgendered. I’m a cis heterosexual white dude. I’m America’s Default mode for when my views And identity are considered.

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gocart mozart  Oct 7, 2019 • 7:59:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:01:33pm

I’m confident we will defeat Trump but I want to defeat Trumpism too and I fear we’ll be fighting that for a long time. I’m equally apprehensive that something worse may rise from the ashes. Just as the Tea Party and Trump rose from the Neo Conservatives and Bush’s declines. The mainstream right is more xenophobic than ever. And you can see it in the people that they nominate for local offices. Some of us probably had local Republicans who sure we didn’t vote for but weren’t outright bigoted bastards.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:02:00pm
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Belafon  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:02:00pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

What percentage of the population are straight, white, Christian men? 15-20%? Since they’re a minority, they can be fired for no reason, right?

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:04:11pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

I’m confident we will defeat Trump but I want to defeat Trumpism too and I fear we’ll be fighting that for a long time. I’m equally apprehensive that something worse may rise from the ashes. Just as the Tea Party and Trump rose from the Neo Conservatives and Bush’s declines. The mainstream right is more xenophobic than ever. And you can see it in the people that they nominate for local offices. Some of us probably had local Republicans who sure we didn’t vote for but weren’t outright bigoted bastards.

Defeating Trumpism will require winning two presidential elections and the midterms for all eight years, and outlawing gerrymandering.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:07:23pm

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

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Tippy Top General would be the top of them all.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:10:16pm

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

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Yeah that never happened in the way you described it. Stop fucking lying about where our military was when you took over.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:10:41pm

re: #48 Belafon

Defeating Trumpism will require winning two presidential elections and the midterms for all eight years, and outlawing gerrymandering.

Definitely but it’s a culture war too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:11:15pm

re: #47 Belafon

What percentage of the population are straight, white, Christian men? 15-20%? Since they’re a minority, they can be fired for no reason, right?

That’s different because that’s me!//

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:12:14pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

Definitely but it’s a culture war too.

It is, and defeating it will in part be at the ballot box. It’s definitely not something that will be solved in one election.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:12:26pm

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:13:40pm

re: #53 Belafon

It is, and defeating it will in part be at the ballot box. It’s definitely not something that will be solved in one election.

Yes. We can’t rest on our laurels even or rather especially if we win big in 2020.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:15:50pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Yeah that never happened in the way you described it. Stop fucking lying about where our military was when you took over.

Happy, this is a great example of that thing I mentioned recently where someone uses the second person in response to the author of a tweet embedded within post, rather than to the author of the post itself.

I’m not a fan of it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:16:41pm

He really loves the narrative of stronger men than him be they military men, miners, steelworkers, all men who do jobs him and his chickenshit sons would find beneath them begging him or being in eternal gratitude to him. It’s fucking telling. He wants to be worshiped.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:17:47pm

Family members accept as Gospel truth Trump’s lie about Pershing dipping bullets in pig blood. Why? Because Pulpit Pimp Preachers say that it’s true…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:19:23pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

Happy, this is a great example of that thing I mentioned recently where someone uses the second person in response to the author of a tweet embedded within post, rather than to the author of the post itself.

I’m not a fan of it.

Sorry Frank. I think missed that but I understand and will try not to do it anymore. It’s man so exhausting how he revises history to justify his bs. I don’t know if he’s that deluded or he’s able to lie with that much ease. Thanks though.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:24:06pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon 🌹

Family members accept as Gospel truth Trump’s lie about Pershing dipping bullets in pig blood. Why? Because Pulpit Pimp Preachers say that it’s true…

That’s how propaganda works. I think your family members would likely be more skeptical of right wing bs if these preachers be they be literal clergy or what I’ll call secular clergy like Hannity, Rush, or whoever their favorite right wing talking point parrot is.

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Scout  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:26:53pm

A little tidbit in the morning news here in Tokyo. trump opened his little news conference thingy wishing Prime Minister Shinzo Abe a happy birthday. It’s not his birthday. As others here pointed out recently, it’s Putin’s birthday.

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gocart mozart  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:27:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:30:34pm

Lre: #61 Scout

A little tidbit in the morning news here in Tokyo. trump opened his little news conference thingy wishing Prime Minister Shinzo Abe a happy birthday. It’s not his birthday. As others here pointed out recently, it’s Putin’s birthday.

I guess Trump wanted to give Vlad free reign in Syria as a gift.

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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:38:36pm

re: #35 Chrysicat

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Aunt Lindsey’s tweetstorm was all over my TL when I was catching up this evening after crashing out just before dawn, so I had hope.

Then a friend noticed that his TL was poisoned again afterwards, so I felt the need to say this since apparently no one had spelt it out yet.

Leningrad Lindsey is nakedly engaging in witness intimidation. Republicans seem to have hit upon the idea that the way forward is to keep the public focus on the whistleblowers, accusing them of “hearsay” and questioning their motivations for coming forward. The hope being that if they can force one or both to back away from their allegations, if not outright recant such in order to avoid public exposure, then the whole scandal falls apart.

Meanwhile, the reality is that the scandal ceased being about the whistleblowers the moment Donny stepped out on the White House lawn and publicly asked two foreign nations to assist his reelection by “investigating” his opponent.

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Belafon  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:39:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 8:47:07pm

The past two years but last few weeks especially I find myself wondering what he will do next. I’ve never been a rah rah patriot but I do want my country to have a place in the world and lead by example on the issues that face the world. I think that’s why Trump angers me. We have a lot of issues we face as a planet. Trump has hurt our ability to be a positive force since he’s betrayed trust, credibility, & priorities. All Trump operates for is his own glory. That truly is what makes him such a malevolent force.

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wrenchwench  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:06:37pm
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:07:36pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:07:39pm

My best suggestion to the Dem leadership would be to publicly remind Graham that the right to face one’s accuser is generally understood to mean during a formal trial, that the accused has no right to face their accuser during an investigation. And since an impeachment inquiry is an investigation and not a trial, Trump has no right to know the identities of the whistleblowers any earlier than the day they appear to testify before the Senate. So unless Graham is committing the Senate to a trial and thus to a vote over Trump’s guilt or innocence, then this is an empty threat and will be viewed as such going forward.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:08:04pm

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mmmirele  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:10:13pm
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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:11:23pm

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:12:43pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:13:01pm

🎶 After midnight, we gonna let it all hang out 🎶

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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:15:03pm

re: #73 Ace-o-aces

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That’s some defense. Can Harvard please retroactively take back his law degree because this is a dude who never says anything intelligent pertaining to law.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:16:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:16:50pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

🎶 After midnight, we gonna let it all hang out 🎶

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Dershowitz should try actually looking at evidence rather than rubbing Trump’s balls.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:17:10pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:20:15pm
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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:22:03pm

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:30:34pm

re: #79 jaunte

Their Orange Messiah is beyond reproach, apparently; I guess Lou is telling Pat to get with the program.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:31:45pm

Well this is refreshing. I hope it lasts.

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jaunte  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:32:56pm
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ckkatz  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:34:38pm

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:53:22pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Dershowitz should try actually looking at evidence rather than rubbing Trump’s balls.

Looks like Epstein’s oh-so-convenient demise has shortcircuited any investigations into his clients. Why else is Dershowitz feeling free to comment on Trump’s innocence instead of preparing a defense?

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Chrysicat  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:54:07pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Yes. We can’t rest on our laurels even or rather especially if we win big in 2020.

I still remember how Dana SimmonsSimpson shut down her “I Drew This” feature in 2008 “because we’ve won!”.

I’m still sore with her for not bringing back her brand of political venom, either when the Birfers started making themselves known, or at least once Trump was elected and it was clear we were going to lose all progress going back into the 70s.

That’s what resting on your laurels gets you. We do it again and we’re going to see them wiping out the Thirteenth Amendment in word instead of just in fact.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:55:47pm

re: #85 Hecuba’s daughter

Looks like Epstein’s oh-so-convenient demise has shortcircuited any investigations into his clients. Why else is Dershowitz feeling free to comment on Trump’s innocence instead of preparing a defense?

Gosh that’s not what Dick Wadd Dersh said when it came to Bill Clinton’s impeachment!

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austin_blue  Oct 7, 2019 • 9:56:55pm

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

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That was just bullshit. It didn’t happen. It’s a goddam lie. He’s a fucking liar.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 7, 2019 • 10:02:07pm

re: #82 jaunte

Well this is refreshing. I hope it lasts.

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Certainly appears that Trump is resuming his Nuremberg rallies. He clearly believes that impeachment is a nothingburger — that his administration with the help of the Department of Injustice and possibly the Supreme Court will prevent the House from acquiring any additional evidence.

Trump’s supporters cannot be dissuaded from their total allegiance to him and their belief that it is the Democrats who are guilty. I would not put it past Barr to manufacture evidence and suborn perjury to prosecute anyone who challenges Trump and the GOP.

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teleskiguy  Oct 7, 2019 • 10:19:43pm

Zippety Do Da Zippety Day

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 7, 2019 • 10:23:05pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 7, 2019 • 10:25:01pm

re: #83 jaunte

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Since the city (i.e. the Target Center’s owners) are in the best position to determine how much security for this rally will cost, they can not only set the price but also require payment up front from a known deadbeat (i.e. the Trump campaign). The Secret Service simply coordinates security with the city, they’re not responsible for paying the bills for Donny’s campaign rallies. And freedom of assembly does not convey a right to use a venue without the owner’s consent.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 8, 2019 • 12:46:28am
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Dread Pirate  Oct 8, 2019 • 1:14:35am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2019 • 1:25:28am

re: #94 Dread Pirate

What’s GHCS? That’s an acronym I’m not familiar with.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 8, 2019 • 1:33:36am

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

What’s GHCS? That’s an acronym I’m not familiar with.

No idea, but it sounds important, eh?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2019 • 1:35:34am

Meanwhile, in Hong Kong:

In her weekly press conference on Tuesday, Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam said that Beijing agrees the island should reach a peaceful solution to ongoing mass protests without Chinese intervention, though she refused to rule out that option.

“At this point in time, I still strongly feel that we should find the solutions ourselves,” Lam said. “It is also the position of the central government [in Beijing] that Hong Kong should tackle the problem on her own.”

“But if the situation becomes so bad, then no options can be ruled out if we want Hong Kong to at least have another chance,” she added.

“I cannot tell you categorically now under what circumstances we will do extra things, including calling on the central government to help,” Lam told reporters.

dw.com

It’s only a matter of time before the HK authorities appeal to Beijing to “restore order” - then they’ll declare a state of emergency, the PLA will roll in….and that’s that.

Sure, there will be some angry words and harsh memoranda. But that’s about it. Beijing will say they acted with “maximum restraint” and after a year or two, it’ll all be swept under the rug.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 8, 2019 • 1:54:01am

re: #89 Hecuba’s daughter

I wouldn’t put it past Trump and his supporters to pay foreigners to attack our country in an effort to push impeachment off the front pages. They have no loyalty to the U.S.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 8, 2019 • 2:05:35am

re: #94 Dread Pirate

re: #95 Dr Lizardo

What’s GHCS? That’s an acronym I’m not familiar with.

re: #96 Dread Pirate

No idea, but it sounds important, eh?

It is High Frequency Global Communications System (HFGCS). Previously know as Global High Frequency System (GHFS)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2019 • 2:27:41am

re: #86 Chrysicat

I still remember how Dana SimmonsSimpson shut down her “I Drew This” feature in 2008 “because we’ve won!”.

I’m still sore with her for not bringing back her brand of political venom, either when the Birfers started making themselves known, or at least once Trump was elected and it was clear we were going to lose all progress going back into the 70s.

That’s what resting on your laurels gets you. We do it again and we’re going to see them wiping out the Thirteenth Amendment in word instead of just in fact.

Don’t know her but yeah there was a lot of naïveté on part of the left who just thought electing Obama would get us on our way to the change he ran on and you know what, we did get change but Obama’s record could be even more better if we hadn’t let the GOP take the House in 2010 and Senate in 2014.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 8, 2019 • 3:07:37am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2019 • 3:31:32am

Happy Birthday, Prime Minister Abe! お誕生日、おめでとう!

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 3:48:37am

re: #35 Chrysicat
at the trial lindsey, at the trial

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 3:50:43am

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

hey mike, how do you know you’re not working next to a ‘trans’ or gay or xxxxx right now?

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 3:55:57am

re: #64 Targetpractice

Leningrad Lindsey is nakedly engaging in witness intimidation. Republicans seem to have hit upon the idea that the way forward is to keep the public focus on the whistleblowers, accusing them of “hearsay” and questioning their motivations for coming forward. The hope being that if they can force one or both to back away from their allegations, if not outright recant such in order to avoid public exposure, then the whole scandal falls apart.

Meanwhile, the reality is that the scandal ceased being about the whistleblowers the moment Donny stepped out on the White House lawn and publicly asked two foreign nations to assist his reelection by “investigating” his opponent
.

the cat’s out of the bag
it doesnt matter how or why
federal rules of evidence dont apply

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2019 • 3:56:43am

re: #103 DangerMan

at the trial lindsey, at the trial

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Did you say that about Bill Clinton? Yeah he does in the trial portion of impeachment. You know this but you know your “common sense strict constitutionalist” base is as constitutionally illiterate as your President.

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 3:59:29am

re: #82 jaunte

Well this is refreshing. I hope it lasts.

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cash up front with him - it’s the only way

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2019 • 3:59:49am

re: #104 DangerMan

hey mike, how do you know you’re not working next to a ‘trans’ or gay or xxxxx right now?

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And they call us snowflakes. I don’t think nor do I care about my coworkers gender identity. If they’re good workers and people, it’s not an issue. If you’re distracted by a transgendered coworker, the issue is you not them.

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 4:03:44am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

And they call us snowflakes. I don’t think nor do I care about my coworkers gender identity. If they’re good workers and people, it’s not an issue. If you’re distracted by a transgendered coworker, the issue is you not them.

just looking for permission to be an asshole legally discriminate

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2019 • 4:08:07am

re: #109 DangerMan

just looking for permission to be an asshole legally discriminate

Exactly. This literally is what the Civil Rights movement was all about. You know what, maybe lgbt and or minority businesses should try denying white straight people jobs or services and claiming liberty. I’m sure Fox and the religious “liberty” advocates would totally get that. Oh wait. We’d hear about wars on whites and Christians.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 4:25:42am

So the big scandal with Elizabeth Warren, now that she has demonstrated that she does in fact have Native American blood in her, is that there are some inconsistencies in her account of being fired for being pregnant in the early 70’s?

Only in this sick, topsy-turvy world is a record of public service a liability whereas a total lack of any history of anything but self-service is seen as a plus.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2019 • 4:28:11am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So the big scandal with Elizabeth Warren, now that she has demonstrated that she does in fact have Native American blood in her, is that there are some inconsistencies in her account of being fired for being pregnant in the early 70’s?

Only in this sick, topsy-turvy world is a record of public service a liability whereas a total lack of any history of anything but self-service is seen as a plus.

The media plays favorites usually with older white guys.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 4:33:47am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

The media plays favorites usually with older white guys.

At some point they are going to find out that she fudged her sales records for Girl Scout cookies…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 8, 2019 • 4:37:25am

re: #113 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

At some point they are going to find out that she fudged her sales records for Girl Scout cookies…

Or that she once wasn’t nice to a server!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 4:50:02am

or that she sent private e-mails!!!

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 8, 2019 • 4:55:55am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So the big scandal with Elizabeth Warren, now that she has demonstrated that she does in fact have Native American blood in her, is that there are some inconsistencies in her account of being fired for being pregnant in the early 70’s?

Only in this sick, topsy-turvy world is a record of public service a liability whereas a total lack of any history of anything but self-service is seen as a plus.

She should have just stuck with drinking lots of beer and sexually attacking her fellow teachers in her youth. I understand that is acceptable for a lifetime position appointment, let alone a 4 year term.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:01:28am

Some good news to wake up to:

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:03:37am

FYI: I seems that today is national Pierogi day. Enjoy!

Added: These people are visiting my work campus today. Too bad I work from home.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:09:28am

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

How does the WH look at these impeachment numbers from the Post this morning and assume that their strategy is working?

because it is all FAKE NEWS!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:10:36am

LOL!

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:13:02am

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

Some good news to wake up to:

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How does the WH look at these impeachment numbers from the Post this morning and assume that their strategy is working?

“Strategy”? They have no strategy, at least none that last longer than it takes Cheeto Benito to make it to the toilet. They’re flying by the seat of their pants and it shows in the fact that there is absolutely no coherent message besides “DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:15:28am

Looks like the Brexit negotiations between the UK and the EU have pretty much blown up at this point. There was a call between PM Johnson and Chancellor Merkel….and apparently, it didn’t go well.

theguardian.com

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:17:07am

More obstruction.

Let’s see if this works with Taylor.

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:20:24am

re: #103 DangerMan

at the trial lindsey, at the trial

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Don’t even give him that. The process for impeachment doesn’t require anything a regular trial does. The president isn’t being sent to jail. There’s no right to confront an accuser. Congress doesn’t need an actual law broken to remove the president.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:20:43am
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jeffreyw  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:28:02am

Good morning!

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:31:34am

I think Warren should come out and talk about how women could not only get fired for being pregnant, but couldn’t get a credit card or a loan without the approval of a spouse or her father.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:32:21am

Back later. Off to work.

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:32:44am

A picture from my TV:

Keep digging, Trump
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:33:34am

re: #127 Belafon

I think Warren should come out and talk about how women could not only get fired for being pregnant, but couldn’t get a credit card or a loan without the approval of a spouse or her father.

That was the law in Germany until 1959; women could not conclude legal contracts without their spouse’s signature. And until the 70’s it was anchored in the German Constitution that it was the job of the wife to maintain the household and raise children.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:34:18am

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

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Dave In Austin  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:37:02am

Installation Day!! They moved my surgery up a day
I need y’all’s Tots and Pears…….

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:38:00am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

Installation Day!! They moved my surgery up a day
I need y’all’s Tots and Pears…….

Dibs on your stuff!

/Good luck to ya.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:43:36am

Dotard doesn’t remember ordering Turkey removed from the F-35 program?

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:45:47am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So the big scandal with Elizabeth Warren, now that she has demonstrated that she does in fact have Native American blood in her, is that there are some inconsistencies in her account of being fired for being pregnant in the early 70’s?

Only in this sick, topsy-turvy world is a record of public service a liability whereas a total lack of any history of anything but self-service is seen as a plus.

this is going nowhere:

it’s nondisprovable
it was 1972
entirely different times
and no one kept ‘notes’ or wrote any of this down
there was a lot of ‘nuance’
a lot of it was ‘understood’ and everyone knew ‘how things worked’
way less workplace protections
and how exactly was a 22 yo pregnant woman going to fight back?

we’re looking at this with 2019 ideas of job protections and laws we mostly take for granted (except those dangerous ‘trans’ people above)

from cbsnews

“Two retired teachers who worked at Riverdale Elementary for over 30 years, including the year Warren was there, told CBS News that they don’t remember anyone being explicitly fired due to pregnancy during their time at the school. But Trudy Randall and Sharon Ercalano each said that a non-tenured, pregnant employee like Warren would have had little job security at Riverdale in 1971, seven years before the Pregnancy Discrimination Act was passed.

“The rule was at five months you had to leave when you were pregnant. Now, if you didn’t tell anybody you were pregnant, and they didn’t know, you could fudge it and try to stay on a little bit longer,” Randall said. “But they kind of wanted you out if you were pregnant.”

As the school board minutes show, no member of the Riverdale school board at the time was a woman. A full year after Warren’s dismissal, the Associated Press wrote that a recent New Jersey State Division of Civil Rights decision meant that “pregnant teachers can no longer be automatically forced out of New Jersey classrooms.”

and

meanwhile, now she’s a democrat and is fighting for fairness in the workplace etc

eta: cbsnews cite

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Targetpractice  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:47:40am

re: #134 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dotard doesn’t remember ordering Turkey removed from the F-35 program?

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He’s realizing he shat the bed (again) and is madly trying to come up with reasons why turning a blind eye to genocide is”beneficial” for America.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:48:37am

Among independents, 57% support impeachment

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:50:38am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

Installation Day!! They moved my surgery up a day
I need y’all’s Tots and Pears…….

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Best of luck Dave in Austin!

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:51:43am

re: #118 Eventual Carrion

FYI: I seems that today is national Pierogi day. Enjoy!

Added: These people are visiting my work campus today. Too bad I work from home.

boris johnson: i said prorogue!

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:52:08am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because it is all FAKE NEWS!!!

they say that publicly but they are quaking

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:55:53am

re: #124 Belafon

Don’t even give him that. The process for impeachment doesn’t require anything a regular trial does. The president isn’t being sent to jail. There’s no right to confront an accuser. Congress doesn’t need an actual law broken to remove the president.

actually you are correct and i will adjust my commenting in the future

and though somewhat semantical, at a senate trial the House, on behalf of the United States is more or less the accuser

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:57:57am

re: #129 Belafon

A picture from my TV:

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mccarthy’s poll says nuh-uh //

Playbook: “House Republicans held a conference call Monday to discuss new polling commissioned by Team McCarthy and the NRCC, and the headline for the GOP is this: Just 37% of voters believe Trump’s phone call with the Ukrainian president is impeachable, while 59% say it was appropriate and not worthy of impeachment. 39% of independents say it is impeachable. (Republicans say this is strong polling for them, but Democrats would argue they haven’t publicly started prosecuting the case.)”

presented for amusement. there’s lots wrong with this ‘poll’

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 5:58:56am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

Installation Day!! They moved my surgery up a day
I need y’all’s Tots and Pears…….

as long as it’s not a stent or two you can still run for president //

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:00:30am

re: #136 Targetpractice

He’s realizing he shat the bed (again) and is madly trying to come up with reasons why turning a blind eye to genocide is”beneficial” for America.

his only m/o

- do something, anything that he thinks will benefit him personally
- fix the totally predictable yet unanticipated fallout
- rinse, repeat

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:00:47am

re: #135 DangerMan

this is going nowhere:

That’s not the point, she has now gone from “Pocohontas” to “Pregnohontas” and they will continue flinging this piece of poop at her until they find something else more adhesive.

Like a voting record…

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:04:07am

Morning Joke just said that Trump invited Erdogan to The White House.

WTF?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:06:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:07:13am

re: #147 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Last year, Erdogan threatened to kill US troops standing in his way in Syria with an “Ottoman slap.” This week, Trump flinched and ordered Americans to pull back.

So instead, it was a bitch slap.

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b.d. (Lock Them Up!)  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:08:59am

re: #147 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The only thing that makes sense to me is that Trump had to walk back his permission to Erdogan because of the bipartisan outrage and Erdogan gets a White House visit to make up for it.

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:09:41am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s not the point, she has now gone from “Pocohontas” to “Pregnohontas” and they will continue flinging this piece of poop at her until they find something else more adhesive.

Like a voting record…

sure because 2020 will be the year of epic and desperate ratfu**ing - this piece in this morning’s electoral-vote.com

If these suppositions are correct, then it follows that 2020 will witness more dirty tricks than we have seen in a very long time (and maybe ever), with the lion’s share coming courtesy of the red team.

but this one’s easy

re: #127 Belafon

I think Warren should come out and talk about how women could not only get fired for being pregnant, but couldn’t get a credit card or a loan without the approval of a spouse or her father.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:10:27am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s perfect call isn’t so perfect after all, and the Ambassador who was going to testify this morning has suddenly gotten the word from Trumpworld not to testify.

That’s not suspicious at all. Trumpworld realizes that the Ambassador testifying would be bad hours before he’s set to testify? Yeah, it’s a perfect call alright. Perfect encapsulation of Trumpworld criminal misconduct.

Meanwhile, in another corner of the Trumpworld hive of scum and villainy, Betsy DeVos may face consequences of violating federal court order on stopping going after student who have loans related to various scam schools.

Everywhere you look in Trumpworld, there are scandals and criminal misconduct. Everywhere. Every one of these scandals is impeachment worthy. Trump surrounds himself with crooks and criminals who do his bidding, all while enriching themselves and their cronies. That’s how Trump and the GOP operate.

And they project their crimes on Democrats, or excuse the crime by saying it couldn’t be a crime because it was done in public (yeah, it’s still a crime), or that you need to say magic words to indicate a conspiracy or corrupt acts (quid pro quo is not a Hogwarts inspired spell, but it does help indicate corruption and fraud in the inducement).

Oh, and Trump’s trying to slow walk the appeal on his tax returns just days after saying the SDNY should expedite their ruling. Trumpworld is playing their games, but the 2d Circuit should remind them that there are consequences to their malfeasance.

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CleverToad  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:11:19am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

Installation Day!! They moved my surgery up a day
I need y’all’s Tots and Pears…….

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Good luck, good doctors, good results! Fingers crossed for you

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:12:17am

re: #147 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Another reminder that the Turkish govt has no problem assaulting people here in the US:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:12:23am

re: #150 DangerMan

sure because 2020 will be the year of epic and desperate ratfu**ing

the GOP have no primaries of their own to distract them from devoting full attention to sticking spokes in the wheels of the DNC

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CleverToad  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:17:19am

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:24:58am

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:27:45am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:36:12am
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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:38:38am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:38:38am

So Bill Clinton can run again! According to This Dumb Trumporrhoid:

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:39:14am

re: #160 The Pie Overlord!

That’s unmatched wisdom alright…. unmatched for sheer dumbassery. That’s not what any of this means.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:39:22am

Wait, Betsy hooked up with Jonathan?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:41:31am
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Stanley Sea  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:43:16am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:46:51am
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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:48:42am

re: #131 Dave In Austin

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:49:47am
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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:51:35am
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MsJ  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:53:51am

re: #167 lawhawk

True enough. But it’s the cover up that gets them in the end.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:56:51am
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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:58:30am

Trump reminds me of a guy who goes into a bar and tells the bartender that he’d bet him $100 to urinate into a cup halfway across the room. Bartender takes him up on the bet.

Trump proceeds to piss all over the bar, the bartender, everywhere but the cup.

Bartender laughs and smiles at the good fortune of making $100.

Trump says hold on a sec… goes over to a table and returns with $100. Bartender is like… why are you smiling? You lost $100. Trump’s like, nope. I bet that entire table over there $500 each that I could piss all over you and the bar and you’d smile.

Trump is Trump.
The GOP is bunch at the table.
The institutions of government, including the courts and Democrats, are the bartender.

Big picture folks - Trump continues to hold and accumulate power and the GOP continues enabling him. The bartender needs to smack down Trumpworld hard, and that means including use of inherent contempt powers to back up the subpoena powers.

Without those powers, the subpoenas are empty and while they add to the obstruction counts, it doesn’t get us closer to the information being made public in hearings that show just how corrupt Trumpworld is. Trump gets to continue his twitter tirades and media manipulation.

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 6:58:57am

re: #170 The Pie Overlord!

What’s in the picture?

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:00:58am

re: #172 Belafon

What’s in the picture?

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:04:22am

re: #149 b.d. (It’s all true)

The only thing that makes sense to me is that Trump had to walk back his permission to Erdogan because of the bipartisan outrage and Erdogan gets a White House visit to make up for it.

…that we even have to think this way…..

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:09:30am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

Installation Day!! They moved my surgery up a day
I need y’all’s Tots and Pears…….

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You got it, I would be pretty worried. Best to you!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:09:58am

re: #174 DangerMan

…that we even have to think this way…..

Trump Towers Istanbul

Khashoggi murder in Istanbul

Trump organizations’s connection to MBS and Saudis…

Erdogan seems to have a lot of leverage.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:11:24am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:13:22am

You should have built the wall out of Hillary Clinton because it’s something you’ll never get over.

If your mind were the White House, Hillary would have been living there since 2017!!!

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:16:12am

And now… for something completely different. Post Gabriel Genesis:

Genesis - Squonk (live 1980)

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:16:41am
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A Mom Anon  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:23:58am

What in the everloving fuck is happening? Trump has escalated a genocide of the Kurdish people and no one is trying to stop it? Like I needed more anxiety? Great.

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Jay C  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:25:27am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump Towers Istanbul

Khashoggi murder in Istanbul

Trump organizations’s connection to MBS and Saudis…

Erdogan seems to have a lot of leverage.

Well, to be objective: I read a fairly detailed account linked here yesterday about the background and timeline of Jamal Khashoggi’s murder (New Yorker?) - and while it is fairly obvious that Khashoggi had been marked for the chop*, that it happened at the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul seems to have been just a random chance: his fiancee was Turkish, and lived there; and when he just walked into the consulate one day to ask for a certification of his Saudi divorce, Prince MBS’s thug-squad simply jumped on the opportunity, and offed him on his return visit. It might have happened anywhere, though having their quarry simply show up, on his own, at a diplomatic property certainly made it easier.
That said, it was obvious that Turkish Intelligence was all over this from the get-go (they have audio of the whole murder), and it’s way foolish to think that they wouldn’t leverage their knowledge to the max.

*though maybe not as literally as it turned out.

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:25:43am

re: #179 lawhawk

And now… for something completely different. Post Gabriel Genesis:

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Video

‘Trick of the Tail’ was a really good album - the one where Collins proved that yeah, he could really sing. ‘Squonk’ was pretty heavy for them, and I loved how they brought it back on the closing track on the album, ‘Los Endos.’

This clip features Bill Bruford as the second drummer instead of Chester Thompson. I got to see them on both runs - and while Chester’s a great drummer, I have a soft spot for Bruford from his work in Yes.

Genesis - Los Endos 1976 Live Video Sound HQ

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:31:31am

re: #179 lawhawk

And now… for something completely different. Post Gabriel Genesis:

Post-Gabriel-but-still-not-sold-out-pop Genesis

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:32:20am

re: #180 The Pie Overlord!

Hillary Clinton testified before Congress for 11 hours. Trump wouldn’t last for 11 minutes.

Trump could not go 11 seconds without contradicting either his own testimony or other sworn testimony.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:33:34am

re: #183 makeitstop

‘Trick of the Tail’ was a really good album - the one where Collins proved that yeah, he could really sing. ‘Squonk’ was pretty heavy for them, and I loved how they brought it back on the closing track on the album, ‘Los Endos.’

This clip features Bill Bruford as the second drummer instead of Chester Thompson. I got to see them on both runs - and while Chester’s a great drummer, I have a soft spot for Bruford from his work in Yes.

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That was from around the last time I saw them live, in 1977/78

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:35:48am
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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:37:05am

So Trump makes the announcement without telling anyone, with no input from anyone, and now no one is following the ‘order.’

Big tough guy. The military is pretty much blowing him off here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:37:15am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Odd birthday confusion:

Trump yday at trade deal signing: “Start by wishing my very good friend, Prime Minister Abe of Japan, a very happy birthday.”

Except: Abe’s birthday=Sept. 21.

Putin’s was yesterday.

Kremlin today noted Trump hasn’t wished Putin a happy birthday yet.

Which again indicates that he rules off the cuff with nobody proofing or double-checking anything…

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:38:15am

re: #188 makeitstop

So Trump makes the announcement without telling anyone, with no input from anyone, and now no one is following the ‘order.’

Big tough guy. The military is pretty much blowing him off here.

So what were the reports of troops leaving posts and Turkey commencing bombing?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:38:15am

re: #188 makeitstop

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So Trump makes the announcement without telling anyone, with no input from anyone, and now no one is following the ‘order.’

Big tough guy. The military is pretty much blowing him off here.

Why should they leave when they know that they will just have to be sent back again later to straighten things out?

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:38:56am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump yday at trade deal signing: “Start by wishing my very good friend, Prime Minister Abe of Japan, a very happy birthday.”

Except: Abe’s birthday=Sept. 21.

Putin’s was yesterday.

Kremlin today noted Trump hasn’t wished Putin a happy birthday yet.

But he gave him a bigly perfect present!

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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:39:42am
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:40:23am

It’s really past time to update this talking point.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:43:02am

re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I finally saw them when they were on the Walk This Way tour. Still good, and they played quite a bit of their old stuff.

A while back I got to see The Musical Box, a tribute band, and they play stuff off Foxtrot and Lamb Lies Down on Broadway in period authentic costumes and mannerisms. It’s uncanny really how good they are.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:46:08am

He’s not wrong.

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Jay C  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:46:31am

re: #188 makeitstop

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So Trump makes the announcement without telling anyone, with no input from anyone, and now no one is following the ‘order.’

Big tough guy. The military is pretty much blowing him off here.

Maybe quibbling, but didn’t Trump’s order only apply to US troops in one particular (Kurdish) area of Syria?

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retired cynic  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:48:03am

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

Sorry I am late responding, but sending ALL the best wishes to your wife, and to you.

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retired cynic  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:49:54am

re: #157 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

𝘞𝘉 𝘠𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘨 🍕🐀
@FormerDirtDart
I would counter that it is likely an argument that is seen rather frequently at WND

Well, DT probably weighs twice as much as Jimmie Carter.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:52:40am

The day before Yom Kippur is Eat All Day.
I started with Blueberry Waffles.

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:53:51am

re: #195 lawhawk

I finally saw them when they were on the Walk This Way tour. Still good, and they played quite a bit of their old stuff.

A while back I got to see The Musical Box, a tribute band, and they play stuff off Foxtrot and Lamb Lies Down on Broadway in period authentic costumes and mannerisms. It’s uncanny really how good they are.

Musical Box is Genesis-approved! They were given a lot of the props that Gabriel actually used in live performances. That’s rare in the tribute world.

The only other tribute band I know of who got the thumbs up from the actual artist is a Who tribute (the name escapes me, Who’s Next, I think) who have actually been joined on stage by Pete and Rog.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:55:03am

re: #201 makeitstop

Musical Box is Genesis-approved! They were given a lot of the props that Gabriel actually used in live performances. That’s rare in the tribute world.

The only other tribute band I know of who got the thumbs up from the actual artist is a Who tribute (the name escapes me, Who’s Next, I think) who have actually been joined on stage by Pete and Rog.

Billy Joel did the opposite and got a tribute singer to come join his act.

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:57:01am

re: #196 Barefoot Grin

He’s not wrong.

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The party that wants to govern needs to beat the party that wants to rule. And the levers of power currently favor the party that wants to rule.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:59:06am

re: #198 retired cynic

Sorry I am late responding, but sending ALL the best wishes to your wife, and to you.

Thanks. The responses are all welcome. It’s serious back trouble but could be far worse. Everyone here is great.

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makeitstop  Oct 8, 2019 • 7:59:23am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Billy Joel did the opposite and got a tribute singer to come join his act.

Yeah, Mike the ‘stunt singer.’ Local dude, I’ve played shows with him in the past.

A couple of years ago I met a young Brit who sings for Jethro Tull - Ian Anderson’s ‘stunt singer,’ hitting the notes that Ian can’t hit any more.

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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:05:08am

re: #204 Rightwingconspirator

Thanks. The responses are all welcome. It’s serious back trouble but could be far worse. Everyone here is great.

A late response from me since I missed the initial post - the site looks awesome and hope the misses gets well as best as possible and as soon as possible.

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retired cynic  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:10:34am

re: #204 Rightwingconspirator

Thanks. The responses are all welcome. It’s serious back trouble but could be far worse. Everyone here is great.

Isn’t she the orchid lady? If so, will she be able to keep those? I hope so!

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:11:05am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:12:06am

re: #208 Patricia Kayden

Trump’s tall tale about the military being out of ammunition shows how his lies evolve

I assume that line was drawn in with a Sharpie

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:14:50am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump got tired of his generals telling him they were out of ammo to do his insane military actions (like dropping MOABs on mountains and empty huts in Afghanistan).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:16:15am

re: #210 lawhawk

Trump got tired of his generals telling him they were out of ammo to do his insane military actions (like dropping MOABs on mountains and empty huts in Afghanistan).

I can imagine they were ordered to stack cartridge cases to build sections of The Wall…

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:20:22am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:21:20am

re: #203 Belafon

The party that wants to govern needs to beat the party that wants to rule. And the levers of power currently favor the party that wants to rule.

I am usually like the other guy, but I’m so frustrated with how our system is seemingly crumbling that I want hardcore attack ads, etc. RIGHT NOW.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:22:55am

Reminder: Turkey hosts Incerlik air base and the US flies missions against IS from there. It’s a major support base.

It also stores US nuclear weapons.

Threatening Turkey with war is a bad idea, when your air base could get overrun.

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uncah91  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:24:24am

re: #201 makeitstop

Musical Box is Genesis-approved! They were given a lot of the props that Gabriel actually used in live performances. That’s rare in the tribute world.

The only other tribute band I know of who got the thumbs up from the actual artist is a Who tribute (the name escapes me, Who’s Next, I think) who have actually been joined on stage by Pete and Rog.

I believe there is/are Pink Floyd tribute bands that have official status, and, IIRC are using some of the original instruments on some of their tours.

Brit Floyd is one I have seen. Very well done.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:24:28am

Trump really does everything bigly and better:

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Dr. Matt  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:26:25am

re: #210 lawhawk

Trump got tired of his generals telling him they were out of ammo to do his insane military actions (like dropping MOABs on mountains and empty huts in Afghanistan).

And sadly, his demented Nazi cult base will accept his ammunition lie simply because he’s ‘pwning’ Obama.

Trump’s tall tale about the military being out of ammunition shows how his lies evolve: Trump added layer upon layer of exaggeration until a fib became one of his most absurd lies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:27:05am

re: #215 uncah91

I believe there is/are Pink Floyd tribute bands that have official status, and, IIRC are using some of the original instruments on some of their tours.

Brit Floyd is one I have seen. Very well done.

But Australian Pink Floyd is the Industry Standard

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:28:34am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One of the Floyd tribute bands is called The Machine, and I hope to catch them next time they’re in the area….

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retired cynic  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:29:58am

apod.nasa.gov: Red Sprite Lightning in HD

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:32:06am
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sagehen  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:33:49am

re: #219 lawhawk

One of the Floyd tribute bands is called The Machine, and I hope to catch them next time they’re in the area….

Not to be confused with The Machine we’re supposed to Rage Against….

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retired cynic  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:35:00am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:40:53am

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:40:57am

re: #222 sagehen

Not to be confused with The Machine we’re supposed to Rage Against….

For that, we’re supposed to rally around the flag… with a pocket full of shells. And listen on Guerrilla radio.

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Mescalero09  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:41:36am

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:42:39am

re: #222 sagehen

Not to be confused with The Machine we’re supposed to Rage Against….

No, that’s the one to which we are Welcome, My Son…

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Mescalero09  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:43:47am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

You have mine. Best of wishes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:44:08am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

Installation Day!! They moved my surgery up a day
I need y’all’s Tots and Pears…….

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Good luck! Wishing you an easy recovery.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:44:54am

re: #227 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No, that’s the one to which we are Welcome, My Son…

Have a Cigar!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:45:35am

re: #230 lawhawk

Have a Cigar!

Which one of you is Pink?

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nicdanger  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:47:55am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

best wishes Dave…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:49:13am

What. The. Fuck.

Why isn’t Stone in jail?

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:51:45am

re: #207 retired cynic

Isn’t she the orchid lady? If so, will she be able to keep those? I hope so!

Oh yes, we hope the surgery will return a lot of movement without pain and all that will be fine. in the meantime I help.

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retired cynic  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:54:29am

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:55:12am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 8, 2019 • 8:56:53am

re: #236 DangerMan

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Republicans have sold their souls to Putin. They will stick with Trump till the end.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:00:50am

Getting ready for services tonight. Shocked by what I heard when I was at Rosh Hashanah services with people turning on Booby Nincompoopo with a searing hot hatred for his Trump asskissing. And they despise Trump and want that motherfather gone. don’t even bring up Steven Miller with them! We’re talking lynch mob if they get their hands on him…

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:03:42am

I’ve seen this Alt-Right meme shared on Facebook and Twitter a lot. Conservatives actually believe Russian-style authoritarianism is better than Western Democracy.

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cat-tikvah  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:03:54am

dickpolman.net

“Lindsey and the lickspittles were repeatedly warned about the stable genius”

“By the way, it’s charming that Republicans are more stoked about defending the Kurds in Syria than they are about the defending the Constitution of their own country. And don’t underestimate the possibility that Trump timed his impulsive act to tilt the news cycle away from the burgeoning impeachment probe.

But I digressed. This column is about Trump’s long-signaled foreign policy ignorance. It’s admittedly useless at this point to wonder whether these fuming Republicans were alive in 2016 to heed the warnings; clearly, they switched off their brains and surrendered to the cult, shaming this nation for the foreseeable future. So the better question is, what are they prepared to do now? We’re stuck with a fake president who, yesterday, extolled his “great and unmatched wisdom,” claimed that “people are extremely thrilled” about his cut-and-run decision, and claimed that he hadn’t acted alone (“I always consult with everybody,” he lied), so what are the odds that outraged Republicans will convert their words into action?”

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:06:38am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:08:19am

Question: is a Trump tweet considered an official policy to be implemented immediately or does the president have to go through traditional channels for the government to adopt a policy?

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:09:49am

re: #233 Joe Bacon 🌹

What. The. Fuck.

Why isn’t Stone in jail?

Sounds like something the FBI will need to look into.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:10:12am

re: #242 Hecuba’s daughter

Question: is a Trump tweet considered an official policy to be implemented immediately or does the president have to go through traditional channels for the government to adopt a policy?

It is an official government announcement but it is not binding, I recall that issue from his announced ban on trans service members.

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:10:16am

Now that I say that, people just need to tell the militia groups that Stone is working for the FBI to root them out.

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:12:48am

re: #242 Hecuba’s daughter

Question: is a Trump tweet considered an official policy to be implemented immediately or does the president have to go through traditional channels for the government to adopt a policy?

Yes.

Trump doesn’t know how to enact a policy. He thinks his say-so is enough, and he doesn’t know or care that his public utterances and tweets can be read as policy changes, even if they run counter to everything else the US has ever done.

Prior presidents would run policy changes before their advisers and have a proper rollout, but Trump doesn’t do any of that. He doesn’t listen to advisers, and the DoD was caught unawares of the change re: Kurds and Turkey.

So the Pentagon has to go back to Trump and see if that’s actually what he wants them to do, and until it’s done, everyone’s in chaos mode (because that’s what happens when Trump spews nonsensical ravings on hot spot issues that have deadly consequences) trying to figure out what any of this means.

We have a sociopath in the WH. None of this is good, and it undermines our security and standing in the world. No one will trust the US going forward, which Trump and his know nothing supporters thinks makes us great (again)?

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:13:08am

re: #238 Joe Bacon 🌹

Getting ready for services tonight. Shocked by what I heard when I was at Rosh Hashanah services with people turning on Booby Nincompoopo with a searing hot hatred for his Trump asskissing. And they despise Trump and want that motherfather gone. don’t even bring up Steven Miller with them! We’re talking lynch mob if they get their hands on him…

גמר חתימה טובה
(May you be sealed in for a good year)

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:13:53am

re: #247 The Pie Overlord!

גמר חתימה טובה
(May you be sealed in for a good year)

And the same to both of you and all our fellow Jewish Lizards!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:14:35am

re: #247 The Pie Overlord!

גמר חתימה טובה
(May you be sealed in for a good year)

Sending with a hug and love for you & yours!

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:14:38am

re: #238 Joe Bacon 🌹

Getting ready for services tonight. Shocked by what I heard when I was at Rosh Hashanah services with people turning on Booby Nincompoopo with a searing hot hatred for his Trump asskissing. And they despise Trump and want that motherfather gone. don’t even bring up Steven Miller with them! We’re talking lynch mob if they get their hands on him…

And this is before Trump upset the Israelis by a tweet abandoning the Kurds?? The Trump supporters I know still worship him and believe he’s a genius.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:14:39am

re: #242 Hecuba’s daughter

Question: is a Trump tweet considered an official policy to be implemented immediately or does the president have to go through traditional channels for the government to adopt a policy?

It would appear that the military thinks not.

(By the way, if it turns out that DT has alienated his allies talking about a withdrawal that ends up not happening, we good guys end up with a — very narrow — win. But we still need to impeach him to hang on to our future credibility.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:18:18am

re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter

And this is before Trump upset the Israelis by a tweet abandoning the Kurds?? The Trump supporters I know still worship him and believe he’s a genius.

My family will still line up before Trump and beg to kiss his ass because he’s been anointed by those fucking crooked Pulpit Pimps.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:19:30am

re: #247 The Pie Overlord!

גמר חתימה טובה
(May you be sealed in for a good year)

לשנה טובה to all Jewish lizards! (And to the rest of us as well — we need a break!)

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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:30:30am

Betty Cracker makes an good point that relates to Rick Wilson’s statement at #196:

What I do know is that it took an absurd spectacle to bring Trump to power, and it will take another gaudy extravaganza to oust the motherfucker. Impeaching Trump for not giving up documents doesn’t seem like it would lend itself to a media bonanza, but maybe with the right stage management and compelling witnesses…

It’s a bit like having to wait for Trump to threaten Ukraine before Democrats could get people on board with the idea that Trump should be impeached.

She also has a Washington Post interview with Chris Murphy about how Democrats are proceding:

There has been some suggestion that Democrats would give up on the courts, and merely take all of this stonewalling and make it the subject of an article of impeachment for obstructing Congress.

But Schiff told me that Democrats have the option of doing both simultaneously, though he cautioned that no decisions had been made.

“I do not foreclose at all other efforts in parallel to make sure we fully find out all the facts, including court,” Schiff said. He noted that if the administration fought these efforts, “that will not delay us from going forward with articles of impeachment if they are warranted by the president’s obstruction.”

“We need to protect the country,” Schiff said. “We need to expose whatever wrongdoing has gone on. That work is going to have to proceed.”

Schiff noted, crucially, that Democrats could continue to fight for information in court even after the House voted to impeach — which could potentially lay the groundwork for additional articles later.

“If it is necessary to go down the road of other articles of impeachment, then presumably there will be a trial in the Senate,” Schiff said. “I don’t think there’s a court in the land that will preclude the Congress from getting the evidence it needs at trial.”

And:

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:31:27am

re: #212 Ace-o-aces

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That little shit doesn’t even look like he was a twinkle in his daddy’s eyes in the 70’s. Looks about my oldest sons age, maybe, and my oldest was born in 1985.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:32:46am
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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:33:08am
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Disloyal Archangel  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:36:00am

re: #247 The Pie Overlord!

!צום קל וגמר חתימה טובה לכל
Be signed and sealed in for a good year and have an easy fast!

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:36:33am

re: #257 Belafon

Good. I have questions.

I wonder why he feels the need to make a threat like that to Rudy. Is he somehow stepping out of the DT line?

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:40:20am

re: #252 Joe Bacon 🌹

My family will still line up before Trump and beg to kiss his ass because he’s been anointed by those fucking crooked Pulpit Pimps.

The Jewish Trump acolytes of my acquaintance (including my brother) have not lost their faith. Maybe if Netanyahu came out against him, they would reconsider. They believe Trump is a brilliant real estate developer and expert negotiator. They also do not see in those fleeing violence and death south of the border as akin to the Jews fleeing Nazi persecution and they really don’t care about deaths of those who are not Americans.

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:42:07am

re: #246 lawhawk

Yes.

Trump doesn’t know how to enact a policy. He thinks his say-so is enough, and he doesn’t know or care that his public utterances and tweets can be read as policy changes, even if they run counter to everything else the US has ever done.

Prior presidents would run policy changes before their advisers and have a proper rollout, but Trump doesn’t do any of that. He doesn’t listen to advisers, and the DoD was caught unawares of the change re: Kurds and Turkey.

So the Pentagon has to go back to Trump and see if that’s actually what he wants them to do, and until it’s done, everyone’s in chaos mode (because that’s what happens when Trump spews nonsensical ravings on hot spot issues that have deadly consequences) trying to figure out what any of this means.

We have a sociopath in the WH. None of this is good, and it undermines our security and standing in the world. No one will trust the US going forward, which Trump and his know nothing supporters thinks makes us great (again)?

he thinks his entire presidency is his tweets - a true and exact record of what he wants, thinks and has demanded/commanded.

he has no idea there is a whole mechanism of government out there and doesnt really care

if he tweets it, it happened

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lawhawk  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:45:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:46:30am

re: #235 retired cynic

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KITTEH TOY!!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:46:33am

Hitler’s Generals were ignoring him towards the end too.

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Skip Intro  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:48:29am

re: #264 GlutenFreeJesus

Hitler’s Generals were ignoring him towards the end too.

Yes they were, after Germany had been turned into rubble.

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:50:13am

re: #259 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

I wonder why he feels the need to make a threat like that to Rudy. Is he somehow stepping out of the DT line?

i think its not a threat
it’s ”let’s put on a show” to distract from what the house is doing

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:50:32am
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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:51:15am

re: #262 lawhawk

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I think he was being ironic. Or referring to Nixon’s “strategy” of holing up in the White House and muttering bad things about his “enemies,” Twitter not being available.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:52:22am
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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:53:11am

re: #266 DangerMan

i think its not a threat
it’s ”let’s put on a show” to distract from what the house is doing

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ps - i think he’s just now realized the dems will ask questions too

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Jay C  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:54:22am

re: #259 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

I wonder why he feels the need to make a threat like that to Rudy. Is he somehow stepping out of the DT line?

And I have another question: why should Graham’s “invitation” to Giuliani be interpreted as a “threat”?? AFAICT, he’s offering Rudy! a free forum in front of a Senate Committee to spout off his usual God-knows-what unhinged conspiracy-theory ranting: with free media coverage.

And it probably won’t matter what he says: the Republicans on the Committee will likely fall all over themselves kissing his ass and praising him for being such a Courageous Defender of Truth, Justice, and Donald Trump; while any “questions” from Sen. Harris (or any other Democrat) will be answered with sneering dismissal, insults, and/or outright lies.

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:54:28am

re: #268 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

I think he was being ironic. Or referring to Nixon’s “strategy” of holing up in the White House and muttering bad things about his “enemies,” Twitter not being available.

so “bold move, cotton” eh?

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:57:02am

re: #271 Jay C

And I have another question: why should Graham’s “invitation” to Giuliani be interpreted as a “threat”?? AFAICT, he’s offering Rudy! a free forum in front of a Senate Committee to spout off his usual God-knows-what unhinged conspiracy-theory ranting: with free media coverage.

And it probably won’t matter what he says: the Republicans on the Committee will likely fall all over themselves kissing his ass and praising him for being such a Courageous Defender of Truth, Justice, and Donald Trump; while any “questions” from Sen. Harris (or any other Democrat) will be answered with sneering dismissal, insults, and/or outright lies.

further, everything in that hearing will be quoted over and over as ‘evidence’

while everything coming from a House hearing is unfair, lies, loss of civil rights, etc

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 8, 2019 • 9:59:03am

re: #265 Skip Intro

Yes they were, after Germany had been turned into rubble.

Indeed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:03:42am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

Zoe Tillman

@ZoeTillman
- Setting aside Kavanaugh, the court’s conservative arm spent time exploring the arg that this is a matter for Congress, and not the courts, to decide. On the other side of that coin, the liberal arm asked Qs about historical role of courts in protecting rights

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11:41 AM - Oct 8, 2019

So we know how Loving vs Virginia might have been decided by this court..

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:04:20am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:13:36am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:16:32am

re: #242 Hecuba’s daughter

Question: is a Trump tweet considered an official policy to be implemented immediately or does the president have to go through traditional channels for the government to adopt a policy?

All bets are off with this lunatic in charge. Trump has no idea what the traditional channels are, and no interest in following them anyway.

Needless to say, this is no way to run a country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:19:10am

hahahahaha

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:19:44am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:20:02am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:20:36am
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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:23:53am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahaha

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this is their only go-to - lawsuits

and this one’s a stinker / loser

- private property so not a 1A violation
- history of not paying its bills - see galveston el paso, i think?

depends on what the contract (if any) says, i guess

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:24:07am

re: #271 Jay C

And I have another question: why should Graham’s “invitation” to Giuliani be interpreted as a “threat”?? AFAICT, he’s offering Rudy! a free forum in front of a Senate Committee to spout off his usual God-knows-what unhinged conspiracy-theory ranting: with free media coverage.

And it probably won’t matter what he says: the Republicans on the Committee will likely fall all over themselves kissing his ass and praising him for being such a Courageous Defender of Truth, Justice, and Donald Trump; while any “questions” from Sen. Harris (or any other Democrat) will be answered with sneering dismissal, insults, and/or outright lies.

Are we talking about the same person? The idea that Rudy could control himself enough to dismiss Dems’ questions is rather amusing. Even if he manages it, it’s more evidence for his trial.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:24:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:26:18am

re: #283 DangerMan

- history of not paying its bills - see galveston, i think?

El Paso

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:27:50am
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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:27:58am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

El Paso

thx, fx’d

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:29:30am
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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:29:38am

re: #283 DangerMan

this is their only go-to - lawsuits

and this one’s a stinker / loser

- private property so not a 1A violation
- history of not paying its bills - see galveston el paso, i think?

depends on what the contract (if any) says, i guess

and ps - no one is required to extend you credit terms

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:32:44am
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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:33:56am

this seems….relevant and sorta BIG

A person with knowledge of the situation confirms to NBC News that Ambassador Gordon Sondland spoke by phone with President Trump on September 9 before responding to acting Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor’s text about it being “crazy” to link Ukraine assistance to help with a political campaign.

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:35:21am

and this part:

U.S. officials and others with knowledge of their relationship also say that Sondland is part of a small cadre of ambassadors who enjoy direct and frequent access to Trump. They say the two speak frequently by phone and have spoken extensively about Ukraine in the past.

amazing what campaign donations can buy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:40:31am
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:42:20am

Grifters gonna grift.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:43:10am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:43:58am

re: #295 The Pie Overlord!

What the actual fuck?

It’s as bad as at that idiot televangelist (forget his name) that used to sell that bullshit holy water on his infomercials.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:45:17am

re: #297 Eclectic Cyborg

What the actual fuck?

It’s as bad as at that idiot televangelist (forget his name) that used to sell that bullshit holy water on his infomercials.

I can’t say this is “cultural appropriation” because I don’t know any Jews who do this stupid feces (trying not to cuss before Yom Kippur)

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:46:47am

re: #293 DangerMan

and this part:

amazing what campaign donations can buy

It has ever been so.

Imagine wanting to buy access to DT.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:48:21am

re: #298 The Pie Overlord!

I can’t say this is “cultural appropriation” because I don’t know any Jews who do this stupid feces (trying not to cuss before Yom Kippur)

Stupid fewmets.

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teleskiguy  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:50:02am
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Jay C  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:50:13am

re: #295 The Pie Overlord!

Grifters gonna grift.

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OK: even though Jewish, I’m a little shaky on a large number of observances and beliefs, but one thing I think is pretty clear: “Atonement” on Yom Kippur is meant to be (and can’t be other than) a voluntary, personal offering: it can’t be bought and sold for money like excess airline miles….

And Paula White isn’t even Jewish.

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plansbandc  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:51:44am
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jaunte  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:52:15am

re: #295 The Pie Overlord!

Evangelicals should be deeply troubled by Donald Trump’s attempt to mainstream heresy

Narrator: “But they weren’t troubled, not at all.”

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:53:53am
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Belafon  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:56:24am

re: #305 jaunte

Who’s the youngest non-Trump advisor? /rhetorical

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teleskiguy  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:57:02am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 8, 2019 • 10:58:33am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 8, 2019 • 11:00:18am

re: #301 teleskiguy

Who’s the dude in the middle with the mustache?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 8, 2019 • 11:01:36am

re: #309 Eclectic Cyborg

Who’s the dude in the middle with the mustache?

Ty Cobb?

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jaunte  Oct 8, 2019 • 11:01:46am

re: #309 Eclectic Cyborg

Ty Cobb:
en.wikipedia.org

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 11:02:32am

re: #118 Eventual Carrion

FYI: I seems that today is national Pierogi day. Enjoy!

Added: These people are visiting my work campus today. Too bad I work from home.

Do you think trump might try to pierogi Congress?

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 11:10:26am

re: #296 Charles Johnson

Unsettled aides also immediately began quizzing each other about whether they should alert senior officials.

pro tip 1: if you have to ask, then yes
pro tip 2: if you still don’t, get a lawyer

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danarchy  Oct 8, 2019 • 11:16:53am

re: #283 DangerMan

this is their only go-to - lawsuits

and this one’s a stinker / loser

- private property so not a 1A violation
- history of not paying its bills - see galveston el paso, i think?

depends on what the contract (if any) says, i guess

Minor correction the Target center is owned by the city so it is not private property.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 8, 2019 • 11:20:06am

I knew him when he was a 2nd Lieutenant, way back when I was Staff Sergeant DirtDart. And later, as a Major, when I was First Sergeant DirtDart

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DangerMan  Oct 8, 2019 • 11:21:13am

re: #314 danarchy

Minor correction the Target center is owned by the city so it is not private property.

I stand corrected


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