The Bob Cesca Podcast: Meltdown

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Massey & Associates, PC:

Meltdown — NSFW! Jody Hamilton and TRex David Ferguson are here today; Tony Atamanuik’s Trump impression; The Trump Meltdown; Trump says “server” 8 times in 24 seconds, the Kurds are worse than ISIS, and Syria has sand; Nancy Pelosi stands up to Trump; Trump says we’ve been allies with Italy for thousands of years; The Harry Dunn blunder in the White House; G7 to be held at Trump Doral; Safe home, Elijah Cummings; Mulvaney confesses to quid pro quo; Vanity Fair reports on Trump’s stock manipulation; With music by Listening Ritual and Rene Trossman; and more!

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220 comments

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:09:38pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:11:27pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:13:46pm
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plansbandc  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:14:46pm

Holy crap. Just say the worker’s video showing a bent metal pole holding up a huge section of concrete ceiling at the failed Hard Rock build. Damn.

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:17:14pm

Hi Lizards,

Mick really helped out a bunch today didn’t he? Nice to see he issued a correction blaming the press for just showing the world what he said.

I’d be surprised if he has a job by the time Trump gets back from Texas.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:19:23pm

re: #5 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

Hi Lizards,

Mick really helped out a bunch today didn’t he? Nice to see he issued a correction blaming the press for just showing the world what he said.

I’d be surprised if he has a job by the time Trump gets back from Texas.

I could easily believe that Trump sent him out there specifically to say that, thinking that if he says it out in the open, that means it’s not a crime or impeachable because he hasn’t tried to hide it.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:20:02pm

re: #5 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

Hi Lizards,

Mick really helped out a bunch today didn’t he? Nice to see he issued a correction blaming the press for just showing the world what he said.

I’d be surprised if he has a job by the time Trump gets back from Texas.

He only has the job because nobody else wants it, and Trump reportedly loved what he said. He’s also still OMB director, so getting rid of him creates two vacancies.

I have no idea what’s going to happen but wouldn’t be surprised if they go all in on the Big Lie that we didn’t see what we all saw.

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:20:13pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

I could easily believe that Trump sent him out there specifically to say that, thinking that if he says it out in the open, that means it’s not a crime or impeachable because he hasn’t tried to hide it.

Nah, he just is an idiotic f-up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:20:50pm
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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:20:54pm

re: #2 Patricia Kayden

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I called that one earlier today. Trump, Pence and Pompeo are really getting their noses rubbed in it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:21:56pm

“YMCA”

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Jay C  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:22:49pm

re: #5 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

Hi Lizards,

Mick really helped out a bunch today didn’t he? Nice to see he issued a correction blaming the press for just showing the world what he said.

I’d be surprised if he has a job by the time Trump gets back from Texas.

Naaah, he told off the media on Trump’s behalf: he’ll probably get the Presidential Medal of Freedom….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:24:06pm
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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:24:46pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Time to gather the assets and bring them home, they notice that the damn has burst too and everyone will be singing soon.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:24:47pm

If you haven’t had your fill of divine monarchs, you might catch the Met Opera production of Philip Glass’ Ahknaten at a local movie simulcast. There are several in Alabama. Finder at site:

metopera.org

Phelim McDermott on Akhnaten

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:27:37pm

Do you ever get the feeling that peoples’ email responses to you are increasingly outlook and gmail auto-response suggestions?

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:30:07pm

From downstairs:

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

Trump’s base actually LOVES the idea that he’s extorting a foreign country to get dirt on the Dems. Remember, these clowns contain many who believe in QAnon, and they’re CONVINCED of the truth of every single crazy, stupid, impossible conspiracy theory. This is what they’ve been waiting for, for years - someone who would use any means to attack the people they’re absolutely convinced think they’re ignorant, racist hicks.

Back when we were being called ‘treasonous’ for criticizing GWB’s handling of Iraq, these people thought that was ‘being too nice’ and ‘letting the Dems trample all over us’.

Really, it’s not so much the whole QAnon BS as it is decades of post-Watergate programming by Nixon’s cronies and the proto-wingnuts who defended him. All the major points of the defense for the Watergate break-in are there:

1. “Both sides do it” - i.e. getting “dirt” through illegal means is “common”
2. “Dems don’t want to talk about Chappaquiddick/Hunter Biden” - i.e. impeachment is a “distraction” from a far worse Dem “scandal”
3. “They’re just angry they lost the election” - i.e. impeachment is just “revenge”
4. “This is ‘normal’ foreign policy” - i.e. what looks blatantly corrupt is just “business as usual”
5. “This is about hurting the president/his reelection!” - i.e. impeachment is a political move rather than about holding him accountable
6. “They just got caught!” - see “both sides do it”

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:36:41pm

This is pretty good from Malcolm:

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:40:14pm

Thread (there has to be a limit to the times the Trumps can say “I didn’t know it was illegal”):

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:50:39pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:51:47pm

re: #19 Barefoot Grin

Thread (there has to be a limit to the times the Trumps can say “I didn’t know it was illegal”):

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Yeah, Mulvaney obviously thought he was being clever today by saying that there was quid pro quo, but it wasn’t about the Bidens and just about a crazed conspiracy theory involving Ukrainian hacking in the ‘16 election.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:53:30pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:53:37pm

Jan Brewer is about to have a bad Twitter day

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 4:57:15pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:00:02pm

re: #22 Patricia Kayden

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So O’Keefe caught CNN conspiring to commit…journalism?

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:00:05pm

It’s a Texas freakshow.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:00:54pm

re: #22 Patricia Kayden

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Yeah how dare CNN ask questions. They should try real journalism like editing footage to defame innocent people.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:01:10pm
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Ming5000  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:01:13pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

Feline Mr. Bubz

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:02:09pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

So O’Keefe caught CNN conspiring to commit…journalism?

Next CNN will do horrible things like researching facts. It’s not real journalism like luring a reporter on to a boat while you wait with sex toys.

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:02:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:03:15pm

re: #26 jaunte

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It’s a Texas freakshow.

Well he means the CSA and maybe Russia too.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:03:58pm

re: #31 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

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To call this shit “clown shoes” would be an insult to clowns…and shoes.

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TedStriker  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:04:01pm

re: #31 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

Mulvaney just issued a statement denying that he said what we all heard and saw him say. pic.twitter.com

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) October 17, 2019

The credo of the Trump administration: “Who are you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes/ears?”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:06:03pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:07:06pm

re: #28 jaunte

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A lot of these folks are like band fans without the drugs. They just follow the party and get high on the hate.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:07:42pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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Nah, from the word earlier, he thought Mulvaney told the press exactly what he wanted them to hear (i.e. “Fuck off”). It was only after everybody and their uncle pointed out how fucking stupid a move that was that he yanked Mick’s chain.

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TedStriker  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:08:15pm

re: #36 Barefoot Grin

A lot of these folks are like band fans without the drugs. They just follow the party and get high on the hate.

Bizzaro Earth’s version of Deadheads.

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retired cynic  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:08:37pm

re: #36 Barefoot Grin

A lot of these folks are like band fans without the drugs. They just follow the party and get high on the hate.

And without the music! Hate is no substitute!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:09:39pm

re: #28 jaunte

Cosplay for Conservatives.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:12:18pm

re: #36 Barefoot Grin

A lot of these folks are like band fans without the drugs. They just follow the party and get high on the hate.

it’s the same as I tried to explain to people decades ago about why some are attracted to motorcycle gangs and gangs in general.
The gangs are family and are providing some serious “this is what you are missing” and “this is what you need” and “we are the ones who will welcome and take care of you”.

Saw it happen with the Palin fanbois and gurls with their “Conservatives for Palin”, which is now seriously defunct because of all the infighting and, well, Palin herself just became a freaking joke to all but the less than a half dozen diehards.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:17:49pm

re: #36 Barefoot Grin

A lot of these folks are like band fans without the drugs. They just follow the party and get high on the hate.

Lots of messaging about liberal tears, triggering, and being dicks because someone said they can’t.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:18:50pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

Nah, from the word earlier, he thought Mulvaney told the press exactly what he wanted them to hear (i.e. “Fuck off”). It was only after everybody and their uncle pointed out how fucking stupid a move that was that he yanked Mick’s chain.

Yeah, I never believe anything that comes from the White House. They’re going to say Trump is happy, alert, and incredibly stable and competent no matter what’s really going on.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:19:22pm

re: #8 b.d. (Lock Them Up!)

Nah, he just is an idiotic f-up.

Why not both?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:19:50pm

re: #42 jaunte

Lots of messaging about liberal tears, triggering, and being dicks because someone said they can’t.

They talk about how liberals live in safe spaces when Red America is one of the most homozygous places in the world.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:20:47pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:23:28pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Yeah, I never believe anything that comes from the White House. They’re going to say Trump is happy, alert, and incredibly stable and competent no matter what’s really going on.

I generally don’t either, but we’re really not dealing with normal circumstances here anymore. We’ve a raging loon in the WH who’s seemingly convinced that he’s done nothing wrong and the media are his enemies. So having one his top thugs go out there and tell them to piss off sounds like something that he’d get off on.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:23:45pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Desperate cries to be noticed.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:24:33pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:24:41pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:25:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:25:53pm

re: #48 jaunte

Desperate cries to be noticed.

See, Milo. Look at me, I say homophobic stuff about gays and I’m gay! I’m edgy!

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:26:40pm

re: #50 Patricia Kayden

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This doesn’t feel like a “deal” so much as Erdrogan listening to his generals who likely want the time to regroup, rearm, and consolidate their gains before they run head-long into the Syrians coming the other way.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:27:25pm

re: #49 The Pie Overlord!

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Go home Jan

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:27:35pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:31:01pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:32:10pm

re: #49 The Pie Overlord!

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Jan’s still bitter that she was never asked to run for Congress after she left the governor’s mansion in ‘15.

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fern01  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:32:41pm

re: #26 jaunte

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It’s a Texas freakshow.

Great description - in fact it is perfect

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:34:00pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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Yeah the guy who mocked a disabled reporter can’t control himself. What a surprise. But hey they got their tax cuts and Punchy McDrunkie/Fed Society von Hack on SCOTUS so all is fine.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:36:03pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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A reminder: Wingnuts believe that “yelling and screaming” is a sign of “strength” and shows “dominance” when you’re a male Republican.

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BlueGrl21  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:36:12pm

...

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:37:34pm

Reason number 1 why Trumpism exists:

In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace

The slow anguished death of belief systems is causing a great challenge to fundamentalists, who now have to reconcile why people are refusing to buy their goods.

This leads to the faux “persecution” syndrome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:39:32pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

Jan’s still bitter that she was never asked to run for Congress after she left the governor’s mansion in ‘15.

no one knows her anymore for anything…

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:40:14pm

re: #61 BlueGrl21

It’s Dallas.

Apologies to any Dallas Lizards.

Donnie Does Dallas

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fern01  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:41:04pm

re: #62 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Reason number 1 why Trumpism exists:

In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace

The slow anguished death of belief systems is causing a great challenge to fundamentalists, who now have to reconcile why people are refusing to buy their goods.

This leads to the faux “persecution” syndrome.

Given they are supporting a thrice married adulterer who probably hadn’t spoken to a preacher for 60 years before being elected - belief systems are the biggest fraud perpetuated by the GOP and trump supporters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:41:09pm

moron

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:43:48pm

I was totally not wondering what happened to Ted Cruz’s “Taxes so simple you can fill out a postcard!” and how did it end up here:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:45:41pm

Well look here, Democrats are more “godless” after all, just like the religious right claims:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:46:24pm

I’m thinking even Alex Jones would do a spit-take on this conspiracy theory

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:47:41pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m thinking even Alex Jones would do a spit-take on this conspiracy theory

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Mrs. Wiles, please get Rick back on his medication.

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TedStriker  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:48:15pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m thinking even Alex Jones would do a spit-take on this conspiracy theory

Shit, Jones is probably kicking himself in the ass for not thinking of it first.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:48:35pm

The slope on those curves is rather dramatic. If the de-conversion of American society continues apace, in a decade I think we can claim that the US is a heathen nation.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:50:27pm

re: #71 TedStriker

Shit, Jones is probably kicking himself in the ass for not thinking of it first.

He’ll one up it.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:51:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:55:33pm

re: #74 jaunte

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Being back “Lock Her Up” and “Mexico Will Pay For It.” His new songs suck.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:55:57pm

re: #62 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Reason number 1 why Trumpism exists:

In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace

The slow anguished death of belief systems is causing a great challenge to fundamentalists, who now have to reconcile why people are refusing to buy their goods.

This leads to the faux “persecution” syndrome.

Some of it would have to do with the way they act.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:56:31pm

President Brags-About-Pussy-Grabbing Worried About What Children Hear.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:57:38pm

re: #67 The Pie Overlord!

I was totally not wondering what happened to Ted Cruz’s “Taxes so simple you can fill out a postcard!” and how did it end up here:

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Because she’s not saying the same thing. What she’s saying is this: The government already has your information about how much you earned, how many dependents you have, and similar stuff, so why doesn’t the government send you forms with those filled in?

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:59:29pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m thinking even Alex Jones would do a spit-take on this conspiracy theory

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“Genetically modified soldiers”? Are the Eugenics Wars happening and we just didn’t know?

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CarolJ  Oct 17, 2019 • 5:59:38pm

Nixon and Trump. Both spied on the DNC and got bupkis. Nothing, which is why Trump keeps chasing that server like Ahab chasing the whale he could never catch. Biden? Nothing? HIllary? Nothing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:00:21pm

“Young 2020: Did You Just Send Me 7 Texts In 4 Seconds?
LOL
Because That’s What I Got At 11:20 PM EST”

I don’t know. Is it just me, or is that seriously wordy?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:00:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:00:52pm
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:01:23pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Belafon 2020: I’m here.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:02:24pm
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:02:42pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Jaunte 2020: OK, I Saved You A Bowl Of Veggie Stew

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BlueGrl21  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:03:23pm

re: #84 Belafon

Belafon 2020: I’m here.

Bluegrl21: I’m in San Francisco but my thoughts are there!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:05:22pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

He’ll one up it.

Yep. Betting on they were genetically modified clones. using DNA from Bobba Fetts forefather.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:05:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:05:48pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All his rallies are him bragging about himself or bitching about people who don’t kiss his ass. I’m surprised more Trump supporters haven’t caught on to the fact that he’s just a bore. A miserable old do nothing piece of Queens trash who if not for Daddy Fred would be selling overpriced scalped Mets tickets.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:08:10pm

It’s the 21st century, so the president can’t be everywhere. The Vice President is being used more and more, and I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing. I definitely think the VP in the next administration will be needed to help undo some of what Trump has done. Given this, who of the current presidential candidates would you want as VP to carry the president’s message? Pick anyone, we’re just assuming they wouldn’t win the nomination for this exercise.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:08:53pm

re: #89 jaunte

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So Trump supporters you like having a President who brags about praise from dictators? God this guy’s mind is so full of shit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:09:54pm

re: #91 Belafon

It’s the 21st century, so the president can’t be everywhere. The Vice President is being used more and more, and I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing. I definitely think the VP in the next administration will be needed to help undo some of what Trump has done. Given this, who of the current presidential candidates would you want as VP to carry the president’s message? Pick anyone, we’re just assuming they wouldn’t win the nomination for this exercise.

Beto or Booker or Castro or Klobuchar.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:11:24pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:11:33pm

goddamnedfrank 2020: Drink more water and stop pissing me off!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:11:37pm

re: #84 Belafon

Belafon 2020: I’m here.

That is actually pretty solid

re: #86 jaunte

Jaunte 2020: OK, I Saved You A Bowl Of Veggie Stew

yeah, that could resonate

re: #87 BlueGrl21

Bluegrl21: I’m in San Francisco but my thoughts are there!

I don’t think that will play in Iowa

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:14:06pm

Me: Fuck it all. Vote for me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:14:11pm

re: #94 jaunte

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Wtf.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:15:20pm

re: #84 Belafon

Belafon 2020: I’m here.

I guess I will never get elected. The last text I sent:

T
Ok but the ones uou make r bettet

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:16:13pm
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:16:14pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

He wants people to fight. He gets off on it.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:17:13pm

makeitstop 2020: I couldn’t possibly be worse than what we’ve got now!

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CarolJ  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:17:39pm

Warren, Butigieg?

I have a theory about the decline. The dates seem to coincide with the internet. The internet brought the wide variety of religious beliefs to a person’s desktop. Once that happens, it’s hard to believe that your denomination knows all the answers. Plus, being online is pretty time consuming, and going to a weekly service interferes with that a great deal, plus the internet will never call you a sinner.

This is at the same time as many religions, not just Fundamentalist Christianity, are embracing literalism, biblical inerrancy, and back to the past social and political beliefs. The old days, you can just come and listen for an hour. Now they want a rigid lifestyle and unquestioning beliefs at a time when there are more options. Being religious is harder, the practices are more timeconsuming, and there’s no online option: you have to get dressed and go out on a certain day and usually at a certain time.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:18:32pm

Oh, last text? In that case…

makeitstop 2020: Cool, thx.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:18:54pm

re: #100 Patricia Kayden

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These are the same people that think there was never any debates over the ACA, which took a year to pass.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:19:06pm

re: #89 jaunte

Doesn’t matter who the Whistleblower is at this point. Trump and the witnesses who are testifying before the House have already confirmed everything the Whistleblower said in his complaint. Plus, thanks Mulvaney.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:19:52pm

re: #104 makeitstop

Oh, last text? In that case…

makeitstop 2020: Cool, thx.

You’ll probably need sarc tags with that one.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:23:12pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:24:00pm

re: #100 Patricia Kayden

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Because the Soviets were known for impeachment investigations.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:24:50pm

Conservatives rather have the Kurds die in a genocide than come to the U.S. as refugees.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:25:11pm

re: #91 Belafon

It’s the 21st century, so the president can’t be everywhere. The Vice President is being used more and more, and I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing. I definitely think the VP in the next administration will be needed to help undo some of what Trump has done. Given this, who of the current presidential candidates would you want as VP to carry the president’s message? Pick anyone, we’re just assuming they wouldn’t win the nomination for this exercise.

Warren/Harris ticket.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:26:56pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

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Conservatives rather have the Kurds die in a genocide than come to the U.S. as refugees.

So old, I remember when the gassing of the Kurds became an excuse for why we were right to remove Saddam from power after the whole WMDs BS fell through.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:27:55pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:29:43pm

Awwww

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:30:36pm

I guess it’s possible that Gohmert pulls a fake book in his office that opens a secret door and then he enters, laughs diabolically, and then pulls the levers of all political power…..

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:32:04pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:32:14pm

Pielord 2020: The dryer is dead. I’m at Lowe’s now.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:33:18pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

Are any of them real?

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:33:24pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:33:26pm

re: #108 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Am I supposed to feel sorry for Mattis or some shit? Because you had a chance to do something and didn’t. You aren’t the Meryl Streep of anything.

Jeez.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:33:29pm

re: #117 The Pie Overlord!

Pielord 2020: The dryer is dead. I’m at Lowe’s now.

Speaking to the common folk.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:33:45pm

re: #117 The Pie Overlord!

Pielord 2020: The dryer is dead. I’m at Lowe’s now.

Don’t be a tough guy. Don’t be a fool!

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:33:53pm

That bad huh?

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:34:29pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

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Considering the type of people Hell will let in, maybe it’s not a complement.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:34:36pm

re: #117 The Pie Overlord!

Did you check Consumer Reports?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:34:48pm

re: #122 jaunte

Don’t be a tough guy. Don’t be a fool!

“Hook up later at Panera?”

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:34:48pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:36:20pm

re: #125 PhillyPretzel

Did you check Consumer Reports?

Customer reviews at Lowe’s and Home Depot.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:36:42pm

re: #127 The Pie Overlord!

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:38:56pm

“It was all about the Bidens.”

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:39:29pm

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Interesting given that the POC who make up the base are probably very religious.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:40:08pm

re: #130 Dread Pirate

Another version of nothing here to look at, keep moving.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:40:49pm

re: #127 The Pie Overlord!

He’s joking about a genocide. Sigh.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:43:54pm

They had me at “Hannity Sources”

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:46:28pm

re: #134 jaunte

Probably some guy named Thainny.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:47:01pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:47:14pm
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:49:40pm

re: #137 gocart mozart

During the Masked Singer, my son changed “Living on a Prayer” to “Squidward in a Chair”.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:49:45pm

re: #127 The Pie Overlord!

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Only a matter of time before the MAGA rally will chant “death to the Kurds.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:50:04pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

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Conservatives rather have the Kurds die in a genocide than come to the U.S. as refugees.

What a surprise!!! (not) They are the most gullible people in this nation — Anything their propaganda sources and/or Republican representatives assert, they accept wholeheartedly.

Am waiting to see what happens tomorrow when the OIG report does not indict Obama, Hillary, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, Robert Mueller, et al. Of course, who knows what calumny Barr might cook up, given he is a man of no ethics or principles.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:53:45pm

re: #140 Hecuba’s daughter

What a surprise!!! (not) They are the most gullible people in this nation — Anything their propaganda sources and/or Republican representatives assert, they accept wholeheartedly.

Am waiting to see what happens tomorrow when the OIG report does not indict Obama, Hillary, Lisa Page, Peter Strzok, Robert Mueller, et al. Of course, who knows what calumny Barr might cook up, given he is a man of no ethics or principles.

I expect the report to be much like Comey’s ‘16 news conference: An admission upfront that nobody is being indicted, before moving into a long rant about how the system was “abused” and that those targeted “deserve answers.”

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retired cynic  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:54:56pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

That wouldn’t surprise me at all.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 6:56:35pm
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Florida Panhandler  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:01:53pm

re: #110 DodgerFan1988

Once again, a modern Republican primer:

The Kurds are not the “right sort” of white. They are not welcome.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:02:48pm

re: #144 Florida Panhandler

That is how the R’s see it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:03:00pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

I expect the report to be much like Comey’s ‘16 news conference: An admission upfront that nobody is being indicted, before moving into a long rant about how the system was “abused” and that those targeted “deserve answers.”

Yep. New York FBI field office is probably still Trumplandia. So corrupt to its core.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:03:53pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:05:02pm

The thing is, don’t expect Barr to just totally whiff on the report, there’s going to be a bone somewhere in there thrown to Congressional Repubs who desperately want to change the subject from Ukraine and back to Obama and Hillary. Whether it’s that the FISA court was “abused,” or that Page and Strzok violated departmental policy, or that the WH knew more than it let on, there will be something in the report that will lead to demands that Pelosi bring impeachment to an end and immediately bring Horowitz in to testify about his findings.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:05:35pm

re: #147 gocart mozart

I can’t wait for MAGAts to start screaming that insulting someone doesn’t make them change their behavior.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:07:53pm

re: #144 Florida Panhandler

Once again, a modern Republican primer:

The Kurds are not the “right sort” of white. They are not welcome.

There are many Kurds who are blonde and blue-eyed.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:08:13pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:09:55pm
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DodgerFan1988  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:14:17pm

re: #150 The Pie Overlord!

There are many Kurds who are blonde and blue-eyed.

“But they’re Muslim and Marxists!”

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:14:20pm

re: #84 Belafon

Belafon 2020: I’m here.

BlueSpotinAL 2020: at playground

Oh, that sounds bad.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:15:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:15:36pm

re: #153 DodgerFan1988

“But they’re Muslim and Marxists!”

Brings up there are Christian Kurds who saw the US as a model before Trump fucked then over. *silrncd

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:16:19pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:16:35pm

Haven’t seen teleskiguy in over a week. And Shropshire_slasher hasn’t paid us a visit since the fiasco with the Kurds really took off.

And Anymouse, if you’re listening, please return — overnight activity has slowed down to barely perceptible without your commentary.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:16:41pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:16:52pm

re: #62 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Reason number 1 why Trumpism exists:

In U.S., Decline of Christianity Continues at Rapid Pace

The slow anguished death of belief systems is causing a great challenge to fundamentalists, who now have to reconcile why people are refusing to buy their goods.

This leads to the faux “persecution” syndrome.

It can’t come fast enough.

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retired cynic  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:18:06pm

re: #158 Hecuba’s daughter

Haven’t seen teleskiguy in over a week. And Shropshire_slasher hasn’t paid us a visit since the fiasco with the Kurds really took off.

And Anymouse, if you’re listening, please return — overnight activity has slowed down to barely perceptible without your commentary.

Has anybody on twitter seen teleskiguy?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:19:21pm

re: #161 retired cynic

Has anybody on twitter seen teleskiguy?

Saw him post on FB recently. But I’m not on Twitter.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:19:27pm

C1nnabar 2020: Yes

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:19:37pm

Good breakdown of the legal corner Trump has painted himself into.

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calochortus  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:20:07pm

re: #154 BlueSpotinAL

BlueSpotinAL 2020: at playground

Oh, that sounds bad.

Calochortus 2020: I sent you an email. Please respond to it.

(I might as well have said “I’m old. I text in complete, properly punctuated sentences.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:20:17pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Saw him post on FB recently. But I’m not on Twitter.

Just saw he posted on FB yesterday.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:21:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:22:29pm

HW 2020: But Forrest was known as a Klan founder and war criminal. (I’m explaining why I can get why Shelby Foote would have romanticized Robert E Lee but have no use for him stanning for Bedford Forrest.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:23:00pm

re: #161 retired cynic

Has anybody on twitter seen teleskiguy?

He’s active, last tweet was an hour ago.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:23:21pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:23:32pm

Someone explain to Laura what “sacrifice” means.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:23:40pm

re: #165 calochortus

You are not the only one. My ward leader the other day told me not to go to the special election class because I already took it. This is all he sent me: Don’t come. Of course I had to ask why. All he texted back was Truck Accident. Some day I will get the whole story.

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retired cynic  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:25:18pm

re: #169 goddamnedfrank

He’s active, last tweet was an hour ago.

Thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:25:18pm

re: #171 The Pie Overlord!

Someone explain to Laura what “sacrifice” means.

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She doesn’t understand such things since FNC is a moronic cesspool.

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calochortus  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:26:02pm

re: #172 PhillyPretzel

You are not the only one. My ward leader the other day told me not to go to the special election class because I already took it. This is all he sent me: Don’t come. Of course I had to ask why. All he texted back was Truck Accident. Some day I will get the whole story.

I’m much more comfortable with email, but my son is bad about getting back to me on that, so sometimes I alert him on multiple platforms.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:26:49pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

She doesn’t understand such things since FNC is a moronic cesspool.

I bet she does — it’s the rubes who follow her that don’t understand.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:27:01pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

So Trump supporters you like having a President who brags about praise from dictators? God this guy’s mind is so full of shit.

Yes they love him. Churches have brainwashed them into believing he is the Messiah.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:27:16pm

re: #175 calochortus

That reminds me I have to send my nephew an email on or around his birthday and possibly a gift card.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:28:05pm

re: #176 Hecuba’s daughter

I bet she does — it’s the rubes who follow her that don’t understand.

More likely the case yes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:29:15pm

re: #177 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes they love him. Churches have brainwashed them into believing he is the Messiah.

I really want to see them see everything conservatives worked for go to shit. I want Reagan to be re-evaluated as a protoTrump bigoted asshole.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:33:42pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:36:39pm
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calochortus  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:36:41pm

Spent much of the day at my daughter’s house. She needed to go do some work-related thing (still on maternity leave, but there was a meeting.) Anyway, she felt taking a four month old who had received a bunch of vaccinations yesterday, was probably not a plan, so I went over to babysit. Why yes, granddaughter was fussy, tired, and in need of a little cuddling and spoiling, so it worked well.
They certainly do vaccinate for a lot of stuff these days. It’s sort of amazing-and a good thing, but I can see where some people might find it sort of overwhelming and not want to give them all to their infant/child. Personally, I prefer my granddaughter not get some horrible, preventable disease, much less pass it on to others.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:36:57pm

re: #166 Hecuba’s daughter

Just saw he posted on FB yesterday.

He’s been on Twitter off and on. I myself took a break over the last day.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:39:41pm

re: #182 The Pie Overlord!

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Bill Clinton actually won the popular vote and had an over 50% approval rating when he was impeached for less. Charlie really is showing why TPUSA is Prager U for even stupider people.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:43:23pm

re: #182 The Pie Overlord!

Having a mob back him doesn’t make him right.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:44:44pm

re: #186 Belafon

Having a mob back him doesn’t make him right.

Charlie Kirk is so dumb that Ben Shapiro actually could destroy him by simply saying the alphabet.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:56:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2019 • 7:59:12pm

re: #188 goddamnedfrank

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He thinks he’s General Marshall. Nope. He can also divest himself from the child detainment facilities he invested in.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:05:29pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Charlie Kirk is so dumb that Ben Shapiro actually could destroy him by simply saying the alphabet.

Teh Stupids It Burns

41 years old is not a “child”

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:06:09pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:09:12pm

POS45 absorbed his hate fix from the crowd. It’s his super power!

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:10:57pm

re: #192 The Pie Overlord!

POS45 absorbed his hate fix from the crowd. It’s his super power!

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:12:05pm
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mmmirele  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:23:53pm

re: #177 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes they love him. Churches have brainwashed them into believing he is the Messiah.

On the one hand, this pisses me off enormously, because I think my religion is better than this.

On the other hand, if Evangelical Christianity wants to self-immolate by continuing to support Trump, they can be my guest.

Bumpersticker: Holmes 2020: Yes!
(said in response to a pic of a very cute, very fluffy cat rolling around on the floor of an under construction home addition, not mine)

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:26:28pm

McGlothlen 2020: I don’t give a fuck how you pronounce it.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:27:26pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:27:55pm

Trump’s Nuremberg rallies continue and his supporters appear more devoted than ever. This cannot end well for our nation.

OTOH Father Coughlin had a devoted following during the 1930’s and yet his base disappeared after our government silenced his broadcasts after the start of WWII. No one will silence Trump in modern social media but people can become irrelevant. And hopefully that is the fate that will await him and every member of the GOP who supports him. May their party go extinct in the near future.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:38:31pm

Oh my!

Now it can be told that Shemp was male stripper…

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:43:08pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:46:23pm
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plansbandc  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:50:32pm

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

Just so painfully stupid.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 17, 2019 • 8:51:16pm
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sagehen  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:03:18pm

re: #115 Barefoot Grin

I guess it’s possible that Gohmert pulls a fake book in his office that opens a secret door and then he enters, laughs diabolically, and then pulls the levers of all political power…..

It’s every bit as possible as Jar Jar Binks is the Sith Lord mastermind…

Youtube Video

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:10:17pm

re: #201 goddamnedfrank

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To paraphrase Thanos: The arrogant never think they can fail.

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mmmirele  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:11:33pm

Because my hours changed at work, my commute to/from work has become more tedious, so I’ve started to listen to books. (It will get even more tedious next month, when my hours move to 8 to 5 with the end of Daylight Stupid Time for everyone outside of Arizona.) This distracts me somewhat from the people who can’t be bothered to use their turn signals.

The book I’m listening to right now is “Billion Dollar Whale” by Tom Wright and Bradley Hope, two Wall Street Journal reporters. It’s about the rise of Jho Low and the 1MDB sovereign wealth fund scandal. In between the eye popping descriptions of Low’s spending (seriously eye popping), there’s trenchant criticism of how little serious oversight there is of the vast sums of money moving about in world markets and how so much of that oversight is little more than perfunctory. For example, I’d never considered how IOLTA (Interest On Lawyers’ Trust Accounts*) accounts could be used to mask insane money movements. Low used the IOLTA account of a New York white-shoe firm founded in the 1870s to pass through a few hundred million dollars. Apparently banking regulators in other countries have been critical of IOLTA acounts, which I didn’t know.

I’ve gotten in the book up to the autumn of 2009, just after Low set up a joint venture between 1MDB and a kind of shady Saudi oil firm, and in the process of getting the $1 billion from 1MDB, managed to siphon off $700 million of that money. At the time, Low was 28 years old. Some of the money siphoned off later is alleged to have been used to fund “The Wolf of Wall Street.”

While “Billion Dollar Whale” was released a year ago in the US, it only just recently found a distributor in the UK, because Low (who is in hiding) has retained the law firm Schillings to make accusations of libel.

theindependent.sg

Interestingly, this is similar to the hooraw surrounding Ronan Farrow’s “Catch and Kill”, which was the subject of a libel threat in Australia this week, but again, booksellers are selling the book.

theguardian.com

Do I think “Billion Dollar Whale” is a good book? It’s certainly hard to stop listening to. I’ve had to pry myself away from the car to go in to the office.

* money lawyers hold in trust, the interest is scooped off the top and used for indigent defense, that sort of thing.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:12:40pm
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Kilroy was here  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:21:41pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:30:04pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:32:08pm

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

Teh Stupids It Burns

41 years old is not a “child”

[Embedded content]

This the same Don Jr that went (in succession):

“There was never a meeting!”
“Okay, there was a meeting, but no campaign staff were involved!”
“Okay, there was a meeting with campaign staff, but no Russians were there!”
“Okay, there was a Russian there, but she wasn’t connected to the Russian gov’t!”
“Okay, so she was a Russian gov’t official, but it was a discussion about adoptions!”
“Okay, so it was actually a discussion about dirt on Hillary, but nothing came of it!”
“Okay, so maybe we got something, BUT THAT’S PERFECTLY LEGAL!”

That Don Jr?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:32:41pm

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DesertDenizen  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:35:01pm

Courtesy of my father. Please share. He would love to see it on twitter.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:38:14pm

Buttery males!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:41:28pm

re: #213 Dread Pirate

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Buttery males!

But it’s ok for that fat fart motherfather to use an unsecured phone and his kids get to use their private servers…but that’s OK because Republicans are above the law…

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:46:06pm

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

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It’s a running theme: Trump’s former cronies are cool with maintaining the oath of silence right up until he backs that bus over them, then suddenly their lips loosen and they’re all ready to stand up to him.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:48:33pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 9:57:13pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:27:28pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 17, 2019 • 10:27:52pm

re: #217 Dread Pirate

Betsy Woodruff Swan

@woodruffbets
* 3h
A source familiar with Nunes’ comments on the Steele dossier said the episode was “nutso” and “awkward,” and that Sondland appeared perplexed by it. thedailybeast.com
….

The reason that the GOP wants public hearings — so that they can explore fringe CTs and incite their base; hard to do that when there is no audience. It’s also more difficult to browbeat witnesses when there is no Trumpster audience waiting to spread lies.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2019 • 3:23:22am

re: #213 Dread Pirate

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Buttery males!

God he has like no material.


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