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BATTLES is a New York band known for its face-melting, progressive rock. On this episode of Cue’d Up, drummer John Stanier and guitarist/keyboardist Ian Williams perform “Titanium 2 Step” off their upcoming album Juice B Crypts along with guest vocalist Sal Principato of Liquid Liquid. They also debut the first performance of “Fort Greene Park.”

Juice B Crypts is out Friday, October 18th

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makeitstop  Oct 18, 2019 • 8:38:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 18, 2019 • 8:39:08pm

re: #1 makeitstop

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WHERE’S HUNTER RUDY?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 18, 2019 • 8:40:35pm

re: #1 makeitstop

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Perhaps he’s gone to pitch woo to a cousin discovered on 23AndMe.

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gocart mozart  Oct 18, 2019 • 8:54:15pm
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garzooma  Oct 18, 2019 • 8:59:21pm

re: #1 makeitstop

[Embedded content]Rudy Giuliani stopped tweeting two days ago.

Hey, besides all the Ukraine related crimes he’s involved in, he also is trying to spring an Iran sanctions buster. That’s a lot of crimes for a 75 year old — give the poor man a break!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:10:49pm
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austin_blue  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:13:31pm

re: #5 garzooma

Hey, besides all the Ukraine related crimes he’s involved in, he also is trying to spring an Iran sanctions buster. That’s a lot of crimes for a 75 year old — give the poor man a break!

Drumpf is going to break his legs.

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austin_blue  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:17:50pm

re: #4 gocart mozart

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He looks like Joel Osteen’s father.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:21:53pm

re: #4 gocart mozart

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It’s even weirder than what’s in that thread:

Gabbard recalls her childhood as lively and freewheeling: she excelled at martial arts and developed a passion for gardening; she was a serious reader, encouraged by her parents. But a number of Butler’s former disciples recall a harsher, more authoritarian atmosphere. Defectors tell stories of children discouraged by Butler from attending secular schools; of followers forbidden to speak publicly about the group; of returning travellers quarantined for days, lest they transmit a contagious disease to Butler; of devotees lying prostrate whenever he entered the room, or adding bits of his nail clippings to their food, or eating spoonfuls of sand that he had walked upon.

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austin_blue  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:34:36pm

re: #9 goddamnedfrank

It’s even weirder than what’s in that thread:

Well, that seems perfectly normal. What’s your point? Didn’t we all grow up eating holy sand and ingesting our gurus toenails?

I mean, where did YOU grow up?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:36:51pm
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uriel  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:39:14pm

re: #5 garzooma

Hey, besides all the Ukraine related crimes he’s involved in, he also is trying to spring an Iran sanctions buster. That’s a lot of crimes for a 75 year old — give the poor man a break!

I would, if only it weren’t so obvious that sooo many of his crimes appear to the result of him being far too stupid to realize he’s actually committing one. He really thinks that all of us, or at least the *smart ones,* would do the exact same thing, if they were in his shoes.

He is the personification of the idea that the masters of the universe can never do wrong, only *be* wronged.

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austin_blue  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:40:18pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

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Brilliant.

Fortunately, not my cat, who is a sweetheart.

Sorry for the drive-by, but a very long day. Night all, sweet dreams. See you tomorrow.

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garzooma  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:46:21pm

re: #12 uriel

I would, if only it weren’t so obvious that sooo many of his crimes appear to the result of him being far too stupid to realize he’s actually committing one. He really thinks that all of us, or at least the *smart ones,* would do the exact same thing, if they were in his shoes.

He is the personification of the idea that the masters of the universe can never do wrong, only *be* wronged.

There’s a story on Daily Beast (behind a paywall) that addresses this:

Rudy Giuliani’s Big Lie: He Actually Knows Jack Shit About Crime and Security

He’s paid big bucks by people all over the world for security advice that, history shows, he’s unqualified to dispense.

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uriel  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:48:47pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Don’t know about cats- but it’s a *very* sugarglider thing. I have one guy, who has literally licked honey and peach yogurt off my fingers on and off for five years, that still makes a god awful noise every time I pick it’s sleeping quarters of the day up.

And then, five seconds later, it’s begging for mealworms.

Pets are ridiculous, sometimes. Good thing they’re cute.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:50:39pm

They had a cool story on the news this evening. Some elementary school here in Texas has a new student that currently only speaks Russian. Her teacher is using Google translate to talk to her. But, come to find out, there’s another girl her age, also Russian, who speaks both Russian and English. After the two discovered each other, they put the two girls in the same class.

An interesting note: the news story didn’t name the elementary school, I’m pretty sure to protect the school and the students.

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Belafon  Oct 18, 2019 • 9:58:33pm
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uriel  Oct 18, 2019 • 10:10:12pm

re: #17 Belafon

Yes, because it’s totally likely she’d jump from being tied with “someone else” to front runner if Hillary tossed her hat in the ring.

So delusional.

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NetworkKed  Oct 18, 2019 • 10:15:15pm

If Ms. Clinton joined the primary, she’d be… hmm. My fifth or maybe sixth choice. Second tier. Above the trolls and the unaccomplished.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 18, 2019 • 10:22:00pm

Ethnic cleansing is not a political solution that is acceptable.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 18, 2019 • 10:25:00pm

By trade relations he means sanctions on french goods.

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uriel  Oct 18, 2019 • 10:31:08pm

re: #14 garzooma

Daily Beast is one of the few paywalls I’m tempted to pony up for.

Unfortunately, I only have so much money to throw down the bottomless pit of subscriptions, add-ons and what-ever-revenue-stream-lock-downs that are, apparently, the cost of being alive at this particular moment in time.

Sure, $10-$12 doesn’t seem that much- until you multiply it by 500. Especially when that $10-$12 equals an hour of your life.

I mean, how much extraneous income do you guys think I have, after paying for my tattoos, my avocado toast, my bacon appetizers and my soy-milk-lattes?

(I kid! I have no tattoos. And I’m not fond of bacon or avocados.)

(Sorry, hobby-horse of mine. Won’t come up again. Promise.)

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Dread Pirate  Oct 18, 2019 • 10:33:03pm

Under the new proposal, though, cities would be required to replace 3 percent of lead service lines each year — lower than the current requirement of 7 percent.

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plansbandc  Oct 18, 2019 • 10:57:39pm

Due to a series of unfortunate events a couple of years ago, dude and I have been living paycheck to paycheck for awhile now. It’s unsettling, particularly when one needs the solace of booze.

OMG. Booze. So delightful and comforting in this time of pure shit. Yes.

(Paycheck)

fin

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uriel  Oct 18, 2019 • 11:21:02pm

re: #24 plansbandc

Yeah, been there. For what it’s worth, feel your pain. A bit of escapism is sometimes really the only thing that makes life bearable, if you’re in a certain space.

It’s weird that, if you can blow thousands on coke and courvoisier, that’s just you being awesome and whatnot; but if you lower yourself to something as basic as a couple of beers and/or some weed a night, you’re some sort of reprobate.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 18, 2019 • 11:27:44pm

A couple of days ago I noted that the Nautilus gang came was off the California coast. They found there a whale-fall:

Baleen Whale Fall Becomes a Deep Sea Banquet at Davidson Seamount | Nautilus Live

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 18, 2019 • 11:37:10pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 18, 2019 • 11:41:45pm

It’s D-day in the UK:

Brexit vote result LIVE: MPs to decide on Boris Johnson’s deal in Commons showdown

The DUP are desperate to not to have to make a decision:

DUP will consider backing amendment to UK PM Johnson’s Brexit deal

Boris Johnson’s Northern Irish allies will consider backing an amendment which would delay any immediate decision on the British prime minister’s Brexit deal when it comes before parliament on Saturday.

[…]

[DUP] had already said it would not vote in favour of
the deal because of its customs implications for Northern
Ireland.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 18, 2019 • 11:46:04pm

Trump’s treachery is obvious to all, especially to those outside the the bubble.

The painful paradox of Global Britain

Beyond vague slogans and nostalgic evocation of bygone glories, Brexiteers have always struggled to articulate a coherent vision of Britain’s place in the world once it leaves the European Union.

What they do know is that the US will loom large in that post-Brexit future. Once free of the regulatory shackles of Europe, the thinking goes, Britain can renew the special relationship, turning definitively to its more natural ally across the Atlantic as a partner in trade and diplomacy.

What the Brexiteers tend not to acknowledge is that the world has changed since the 2016 referendum. To see how this affects their project, they need only have looked at the unfolding crisis in northern Syria this week. Under Donald Trump, US alliances have been rendered void.

The Kurds, the US’s most reliable ally in its fight against Islamic State, have discovered in the most terrible circumstances that their close involvement with the Americans on the battlefield ultimately counts for nothing. It’s a lesson that South Korea, Japan, Germany and several other Nato states have already had to absorb. In other words, Britain is pinning its hopes on a partner who has never been less trustworthy.

[…]

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CarolJ  Oct 18, 2019 • 11:56:56pm

I tried to link to a comment from another thread, but whatever: I also think that the vote for Gabbard was also going to be enhanced by Republicans voting in Dem primaries because of no competitive primaries of their own. It was supposed to be Tulsi vs Hillary, and the Republican votes were to enhance her stature when she finally lost to Hillary-the establishment candidate. In this move, Tulsi would have been the “anti-war” candidate, ignoring all her anti-choice and anti-gay positions. But they would have hoped to also capitalize on whatever POC credentials she has, somewhat Asian and female to obscure that. Well, at least 3-4 POC are running, at least 4 women, and a partridge in a pear tree, enough diversity to satisfy would-be complainers. Tulsi is left with no assets at all.

They never really calculated that Hillary would stay out of the race. They never thought that there would be a whole field of perfectly acceptable candidates, enough to drown Tulsi out and make her candidacy less than a joke.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2019 • 12:15:25am

re: #30 CarolJ

I tried to link to a comment from another thread, but whatever

The easiest way to do that is to go into that thread, click the reply button for the comment you want to link to, then copy the link code and paste it into your reply here. Another way is to click on the comment number, copy the URL of the page where the comment loads by itself, then go to the thread you want to post it in, click on the “chain link” looking button above the text entry field and paste the URL into the window that pops up.

They never really calculated that Hillary would stay out of the race.

Because all they have is confirmation bias. It was utterly absurd to think she was going to run again, for a lot of reasons but mostly because she’s intelligent and genuinely wants what’s best for the country.

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ericblair  Oct 19, 2019 • 12:19:49am

re: #30 CarolJ

They never really calculated that Hillary would stay out of the race. They never thought that there would be a whole field of perfectly acceptable candidates, enough to drown Tulsi out and make her candidacy less than a joke.

It’s an easy tell. No Dems ever really expected Hillary to be a political factor in this race, and even less to actually run. Putin, and therefore the Russian establishment, have such a hate boner for Hillary that they have marked her as the Eternal Enemy and of course expect to see her behind every tree. The only people on the “left” who are obsessed with her at this stage are the ones who are compromised.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 19, 2019 • 12:47:01am
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2019 • 1:06:40am
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2019 • 1:53:46am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 19, 2019 • 1:55:59am
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Dread Pirate  Oct 19, 2019 • 2:10:03am
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Dread Pirate  Oct 19, 2019 • 2:19:33am

P’t-être que demain ça ira mieux mais aujourd’hui Ma vie c’est de la marde

Maybe tomorrow it will be better but today My life is money shit

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Dread Pirate  Oct 19, 2019 • 2:20:31am

Acadian french is strange.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 19, 2019 • 2:30:16am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 19, 2019 • 2:33:45am

Free market V Trumpers. Guess who won.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 3:46:40am

re: #4 gocart mozart

Tulsi Gabbard is a homophobe who got into politics by promising to pass a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage in 2004.

She blames Hillary for wars Bush started and she blames everyone but Assad for bombing brown people.

She got endorsed by David Duke and Steve Bannon.

In other words, GOP ratfuckers see her as the perfect candidate

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 3:49:05am

re: #33 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Boyz and the Oud

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 3:50:09am

re: #41 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Hundreds of Trump fans were left stranded yesterday after buses to take them to DC never showed up.

Organizers claim the bus company is biased against conservatives, but the bus company has a simpler explanation: they were never paid.

Conservative bus companies would be lining up to transport them free of charge.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 19, 2019 • 5:13:43am

re: #41 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mother Jones goes into the group history of the bus non-organizers. No big surprise.

motherjones.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 5:42:35am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In other words, GOP ratfuckers see her as the perfect candidate

Well she was a good ratfucking candidate but she let the cat out of the bag yesterday. Stein and Greenwald and Tracey did too.

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mmmirele  Oct 19, 2019 • 5:43:39am

The Tulsi fan club got #IamTulsi trending. It’s a pity party, with the Bernie Bros and Jill Stein crowd chiming in. It has the distinct smell of eau de Russian Bot.

I didn’t realize how young Tulsi was. She’s 38. I’ve been voting Democratic longer than she has been alive. She may be old enough to run for president, but I know enough about her background (grew up in a Hindu cult, has NOT disavowed it), is an Assad apologist, is a supporter of Modi, is wobbly on choice and is probably anti-LGBTQ if you pressed her very hard. Nope, she’s in the wrong damned party.

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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2019 • 5:51:33am

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mmmirele  Oct 19, 2019 • 5:59:39am

Oh. #DavidDuke is also trending and it’s because his little-noticed endorsement of Tulsi Gabbard has surfaced in response to #IamTulsi.

nypost.com

Gabbard said she could do without the endorsement, but hell, it’s still out there.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:03:12am

re: #49 mmmirele

Oh. #DavidDuke is also trending and it’s because his little-noticed endorsement of Tulsi Gabbard has surfaced in response to #IamTulsi.

nypost.com

Gabbard said she could do without the endorsement, but hell, it’s still out there.

I love it. The IamTulsi hashtag is full of people shitting on her.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:03:57am

re: #49 mmmirele

Oh. #DavidDuke is also trending and it’s because his little-noticed endorsement of Tulsi Gabbard has surfaced in response to #IamTulsi.

nypost.com

Gabbard said she could do without the endorsement, but hell, it’s still out there.

Tulsi if she were as smart as her fans think she is could have stayed quiet or at least not responded like HRC was talking about her but when she responded and the way she responded the way she did, it’s got people looking at Tulsi. Now people are going to be wondering why David Duke likes a Democratic candidate. Now and this is why Tulsi’s supporters are fucking marks, the Trump right will try to both sides the fact that Trump is liked by Duke and Gabbard is. Ignoring the fact that Gabbard of all the Dem candidates has been the most weak on Trump and Trumpism.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:05:10am

About 3 years too late:

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:07:54am

re: #50 Barefoot Grin

I love it. The IamTulsi hashtag is full of people shitting on her.

Funny how someone who is only polling around 1% could have enough supporters to get a hashtag trending that high?

Hmmmm, it happened when most Americans were asleep too? Hmmmmm

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:09:14am

re: #53 b.d. (Do Me A Favor Though)

Funny how someone who is only polling around 1% could have enough supporters to get a hashtag trending that high?

Hmmmm, it happened when most Americans were asleep too? Hmmmmm

And what’s more is HRC didn’t even say Tulsi Gabbard. I mean obviously it’s who she meant but Tulsi took the bait pure and simple.

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:10:31am

re: #52 Barefoot Grin

About 3 years too late:

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Yep, now the handwringing begins. I NEVER REALLY LIKED TRUMP, I JUST WENT ALONG

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mmmirele  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:12:20am

I just tossed this out there a little while ago and it’s gotten some response.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:13:01am

re: #55 b.d. (Do Me A Favor Though)

Yep, now the handwringing begins. I NEVER REALLY LIKED TRUMP, I JUST WENT ALONG

The Democrats need to make it loudly known that should not be a defense. They enabled Trump pure and simple. And now because Trump may lead to them and their party being in a weak position they want to get off the ship. The time was early on when Trump started this madness.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:17:37am

Fucking Trumpers are the worst. The whole hurr hurr why are Dems more outraged that Trump investitgated Biden’s corruption than the actual corruption. First all, he fucking threatened to hold aid from an ally if they did not comply with him, second of all, do you know who your president’s children are and where in proximity to power they are?” And finally, prove the corruption wasn’t just the standard good old boy network crap that conservatives have been tolerating in corporate board rooms for generations.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:18:03am

re: #52 Barefoot Grin

About 3 years too late:

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All the trump admin exes
What did you do when you were there????

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:19:23am

re: #52 Barefoot Grin

About 3 years too late:

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Yes, but the pace of mental deterioration is also worsening rapidly. I’ve said before that I don’t see how he can last another year just because he’s visibly falling apart under the stress of failure and narcissistic injury. The real problem is how easily our society became slowly inured to this level of craziness through some kind of process of pathological mithradatism. Every week now something comes to light that would have been unthinkable and devastating to his poll numbers in the beginning, but over time the process of seeing no consequences from scandal after scandal because of GOP co-conspiracy has created a kind of sociological scar tissue to keep just enough people in line. Also, the “both sides” media coverage of this insane bullshit has been abominable.

However, again, the trajectory is so obviously fucking bad now that I don’t see how this can be a long term stable state of play.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:20:54am

re: #59 DangerMan

All the trump admin exes
What did you do when you were there????

Seriously. They were fine with Trump until he started turning his ire on them. It’s why I have to admit that I am a little bothered by Mattis being celebrated. I mean am I glad to see former Trump cabinet and other appointees speak out against him? Yes, yes I am but you had the chance to reign him in, you knew what he was and you stood with him quietly with a smile as he did what he did.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:22:12am

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

Yes, but the pace of mental deterioration is also worsening rapidly. I’ve said before that I don’t see how he can last another year just because he’s visibly falling apart under the stress of failure and narcissistic injury. The real problem is how easily our society became slowly inured to this level of craziness through some kind of process of pathological mithradatism.

The line between Reality TV and reality was obscured.

And getting a rise out of liberals and snowflakes became a policy goal in and of itself.

And there were others who used their influence to amplify those already existing tendencies to create and spread chaos.

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:22:24am

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

Yes, but the pace of mental deterioration is also worsening rapidly. I’ve said before that I don’t see how he can last another year just because he’s visibly falling apart under the stress of failure and narcissistic injury. The real problem is how easily our society became slowly inured to this level of craziness through some kind of process of pathological mithradatism. Every week now something comes to light that would have been unthinkable and devastating to his poll numbers in the beginning, but over time the process of seeing no consequences from scandal after scandal because of GOP co-conspiracy has created a kind of sociological scar tissue on just enough people in line.

However, again, the trajectory is so obviously fucking bad now that I don’t see how this can be a long term stable state of play.

HE’S PERFECTLY SANE! THIS IS A TOTALLY RUN OF THE MILL TWEET FROM THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:23:44am

re: #63 b.d. (Do Me A Favor Though)

HE’S PERFECTLY SANE! THIS IS A TOTALLY RUN OF THE MILL TWEET FROM THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD!

if this was a coup, he would have been dragged out of bed and taken to a show trial and then executed which is honestly what a lot of right wingers were advocating for Obama. The Democrats are trying to use the Constitution ot get him and Donnie who has never read the Constitution once in his life thinks that’s a coup.

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b.d. (It's All True)  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:25:53am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

if this was a coup, he would have been dragged out of bed and taken to a show trial and then executed which is honestly what a lot of right wingers were advocating for Obama. The Democrats are trying to use the Constitution ot get him and Donnie who has never read the Constitution once in his life thinks that’s a coup.

lol, I had forgotten about the citizen’s grand jury nonsense that happened during the obama years.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:25:54am

Certain dems seem to have similar strategy/thinking as their path to the white house

If everyone else crashes and burns I can weave through all the wreckage and win!
So vote for me now

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:25:57am

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Uh uh….. That is teh #Fakenewses! Emperor Trump has never lied to us!! The jokes on you Libtard!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:27:10am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

if this was a coup, he would have been dragged out of bed and taken to a show trial and then executed which is honestly what a lot of right wingers were advocating for Obama. The Democrats are trying to use the Constitution ot get him and Donnie who has never read the Constitution once in his life thinks that’s a coup.

If this were a coup, they would not have waited until his personal lawyer, campaign manager and campaign adviser (among others) were all convicted of crimes, they would have just discretely lengthened his tie so that he would trip and stumble down the steps of AF1, breaking his neck…

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:27:17am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Seriously. They were fine with Trump until he started turning his ire on them. It’s why I have to admit that I am a little bothered by Mattis being celebrated. I mean am I glad to see former Trump cabinet and other appointees speak out against him? Yes, yes I am but you had the chance to reign him in, you knew what he was and you stood with him quietly with a smile as he did what he did.

Yup
They were fine as long as they were “in”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:27:36am

re: #67 Dave In Austin

Uh uh….. That is teh #Fakenewses! Emperor Trump has never lied to us!! The jokes on you Libtard!!

I cannot believe Trumpers complain about Biden’s son and think nothing of the fact that Ivanka is always there at formal WH business events. They don’t live in reality. And some of them are in our friend, family, neighbor, and co-worker circle. What I’m wondering is if they’ll ever accept some reality when it comes to Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:30:18am

I remember some were arguing before Ukraine came out that maybe the best course of action was to just let the election happen and give the voters a referendum on Trump. I completely rejected that then as I do now more than ever. You don’t impeach Trump and document his abuses of power so Trump gets removed. You do it so down the road a future President can’t see what this administration has done and use the precedents Trump and his administration have created and say that they shouldn’t be impeached over doing the same or similar actions. So in a way, it’s all about Trump’s abuses of power but it’s also about future abuses of power too.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:32:42am

re: #70 HappyWarrior

I cannot believe Trumpers complain about Biden’s son and think nothing of the fact that Ivanka is always there at formal WH business events. They don’t live in reality. And some of them are in our friend, family, neighbor, and co-worker circle. What I’m wondering is if they’ll ever accept some reality when it comes to Trump.

“It’s not the same”
She’s smart well educated and a fast learner!

Biden knew nothing about the oil and gas industry. //

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:33:19am

re: #69 DangerMan

Yup
They were fine as long as they were “in”

Mattis is still on that board benefiting from the detained kids. Thanks for condemning Trump, Jim but you’re an asshole too. This wasn’t somehow who started out altruistic and calm and then became a corrupt tweet rage machine He’s always been this way.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:35:03am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Mattis is still on that board benefiting from the detained kids. Thanks for condemning Trump, Jim but you’re an asshole too. This wasn’t somehow who started out altruistic and calm and then became a corrupt tweet rage machine He’s always been this way.

I should have added
“In, and getting theirs…..”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:35:59am

re: #72 DangerMan

“It’s not the same”
She’s smart well educated and a fast learner!

Biden knew nothing about the oil and gas industry. //

Had a cousin using McCarthy to whine about Pelosi naming post offices. I didn’t know her in the Obama years but I’m certain we didn’t see her upset that the R’s were trying to repeal ACA repeatedly in the House with its signer in the WH.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:46:38am

Fox looking out for the mental health of its viewers

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:51:41am

re: #76 Barefoot Grin

Fox looking out for the mental health of its viewers

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I think 99% of Fox viewers are safe from that malady.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:51:46am

re: #76 Barefoot Grin

It doesn’t get much closer to “relax, we’ll tell you what to think” than that.

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2019 • 6:53:03am

re: #76 Barefoot Grin

Fox looking out for the mental health of its viewers

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I really doubt that’s what they’re doing: Fox has never encouraged “thinking” of any kind from its audience since the beginning.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:03:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:27:42am

re: #80 jaunte

Pretty amazing how the press acts like the Emoluments Clause doesn’t exist. Only slightly less amazing than watching them fail to note that Trump capped weeks of attacking an opponent’s son for profiting off his dad’s power by giving an 11-figure no-bid contract to his sons.

I can only think that their line of thought (cannot call it logic) is that since Trump was already an established businessman before entering politics, he somehow has licence to continue those activities, whereas the Bidens are not supposed to use their political connections for business purposes because they started out in politics…

or simply IOKIYAR

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:32:57am

re: #20 Dread Pirate

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Ethnic cleansing is not a political solution that is acceptable.

Trump is down with it; he’s trying to ethnically cleanse the US.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:40:24am

Including Ivanka and Jared, how many high-ranking Trump supporters in and out of the administration have children now in patronage jobs?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:41:43am

re: #66 DangerMan

Certain dems seem to have similar strategy/thinking as their path to the white house

If everyone else crashes and burns I can weave through all the wreckage and win!
So vote for me now

Its early, but at the moment it sure looks like the nominee is going to be either Biden or Warren. I’d prefer Warren, but obviously I’ll vote for either. Kentucky’s primary isn’t until May, so we’ll see who is still standing when I finally get to vote.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:43:31am

Woody Harrelson on WTF podcast with some sound advice: ‘sometimes I get overstimulated with all of the information and just have to smoke a fatty and stop thinking about it.’

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:50:11am

re: #83 Barefoot Grin

Including Ivanka and Jared, how many high-ranking Trump supporters in and out of the administration have children now in patronage jobs?

Barr.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:50:53am

No rule says there can’t be more than one Russian tool.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:51:56am

re: #87 jaunte

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No rule says there can’t be more than one Russian tool.

OFFS.

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:55:06am

re: #87 jaunte

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No rule says there can’t be more than one Russian tool.

Ummm, isn’t the Democratic Party, a, you know, a political party??
Isn’t “toeing the party line” kind of a normal thing to expect?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:56:40am

Morning Lizardim from the cloudy wild north country. The cold snap ended yesterday in spectacular fashion, as the fall colors are out in full force here. How go things among the lizardfolk on this temperate fall day?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:56:51am

re: #89 Jay C

Ummm, isn’t the Democratic Party, a, you know, a political party??
Isn’t “toeing the party line” kind of a normal thing to expect?

Those two aren’t interested in the party. They’re interested in themselves.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 7:58:55am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Those two aren’t interested in the party. They’re interested in themselves.

Was Trump interested in the GOP?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:00:42am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Was Trump interested in the GOP?

Nope. I don’t want Trump as my model for what I want my party’s nominee to represent. That should be pretty obvious by now.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:01:05am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Was Trump interested in the GOP?

Only insomuch as it was a means to an end. Once he became President, he shaped the GOP to fit him.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:01:24am

Trumpworld trying to purge the FBI.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:01:41am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can only think that their line of thought (cannot call it logic) is that since Trump was already an established businessman before entering politics, he somehow has licence to continue those activities, whereas the Bidens are not supposed to use their political connections for business purposes because they started out in politics…

or simply IOKIYAR

So was Jimmy Carter, and they made him sell his peanut farm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:03:03am

re: #94 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Only insomuch as it was a means to an end. Once he became President, he shaped the GOP to fit him.

And they were more than willing to go along. They have accomplished some goals, like packing the judiciary and tipping SCOTUS, abolishing regulations and dismantling government agencies, and making abortion and health care less accessible.

But I believe it could cost them in the long run.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:03:37am

re: #96 Eventual Carrion

So was Jimmy Carter, and they made him sell his peanut farm.

Then IOKIYAR it is…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:04:10am

re: #95 jaunte

Trumpworld trying to purge the FBI.

They’re trying to make federal employees loyal to Trump and not the Constitution. They’ve succeeded in some areas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:04:57am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

They’re trying to make federal employees loyal to Trump and not the Constitution. They’ve succeeded in some areas.

“loyal to the Constitution over the current President” = Deep State = attempted coup

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:05:13am

re: #89 Jay C

Ummm, isn’t the Democratic Party, a, you know, a political party??
Isn’t “toeing the party line” kind of a normal thing to expect?

Especially when the party line you ARE toeing is the opposition party lie.

PS edit: I see I missed the ‘n’ in ‘line’, but I am good with how it reads anyway.

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NetworkKed  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:05:43am

Unfortunately, with the GOP dominated by know-nothings, fantasists, and true-believers, the Dems have become the party of the actual adults who want government to be competent. That’s a hell of a big tent, and the coalition problems are inevitable, even without the trolls. The party line is a constant negotiation. …I don’t actually think Sanders would be outside the tent - I dislike him because he’s pitched his own but thinks we should give him ours as well.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:05:52am

I’m learning more about the Kurds especially the women. I can see why it was easy for Trump to convince the wingnuts to turn against them. The women have been vital to their cause. There’s definitely a lot of small letter d-democratic principles with these people. They should be allies and Trump just sold them out. And he makes light of their deaths.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:07:01am

This all feels a lot like Spain in the 30’s to me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:08:10am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

This all feels a lot like Spain in the 30’s to me.

All we need would be for the likes of Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin to intervene and test out their new weapons systems…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:09:04am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All we need would be for the likes of Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin to intervene and test out their new weapons systems…

Modern warfare isn’t about weapons systems. It’s about ideas.

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garzooma  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:09:17am

re: #95 jaunte

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Trumpworld trying to purge the FBI.

It’s inconvenient to get foreign governments to harass your rivals. Much better if you have corrupted law enforcement do it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:11:04am

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Modern warfare isn’t about weapons systems. It’s about ideas.

Ideas are weapons and most of America is defenseless…

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:12:29am

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Barr.

Toensing and DiGenova.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:13:47am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ideas are weapons and most of America is defenseless…

Defenseless isn’t the word I’d use. Trump is like a flesh eating bacterium eating us from within.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:14:39am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

This all feels a lot like Spain in the 30’s to me.

I’m thinking more like Germany…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:17:21am

and Gym haz a sad:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:17:49am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:18:10am

re: #111 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m thinking more like Germany…

Germany in the 20’s. Germany by the 30’s had already been taken over by the Nazis.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:18:25am

Unexpected not surprise,
State Dept. finds no ‘systemic’ classified violation in Hillary Clinton private-server emails
politico.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:18:40am

I’m talking about the struggle for democracy and secular government that’s going on throughout the world not just here.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:19:39am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ideas are weapons and most of America is defenseless…

“How does it feel to be an unarmed man in a battle of wits?”

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:21:09am

re: #96 Eventual Carrion

So was Jimmy Carter, and they made him sell his peanut farm.

This is one part of the standard Republican playbook that Obama anticipated, and took steps to prevent.

Between his election and his inauguration, he sold ALL his stocks, Put half the money into index funds, the other half into T-Bills.

For the $1,4 million that comes with a Nobel Prize, he donated every single penny to charity, as follows:

- $250,000 to Fisher House, a national nonprofit organization providing accommodation for families of patients receiving medical care at military and Department of Veterans Affairs medical centers.

- $200,000 to the Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund, which was set up in the aftermath of the Haitian earthquake to help survivors.

- $125,000 to College Summit, a national nonprofit organization to increase college enrollment rates.

- $125,000 to the Posse Foundation, which awards scholarships to promising public high school students.

- $125,000 to the United Negro College Fund.

- $125,000 to the Hispanic Scholarship Fund.

_ $125,000 to the American Indian College Fund.

- $125,000 to the Appalachian Leadership and Education Foundation.

- $100,000 to AfriCare, which promotes health, food security and access to water primarily in Africa.

- $100,000 to the Central Asia Institute, which education and literacy, especially for girls, in remote regions of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:22:09am

re: #118 sagehen

This is one part of the standard Republican playbook that Obama anticipated, and took steps to prevent.

Between his election and his inauguration, he sold ALL his stocks, Put half the money into index funds, the other half into T-Bills.

For the $1,4 million that comes with a Nobel Prize, he donated every single penny to charity, as follows:

- $250,000 to Fisher House, a national nonprofit organization providing accommodation for families of patients receiving medical care at military and Department of Veterans Affairs medical centers.

- $200,000 to the Clinton-Bush Haiti Fund, which was set up in the aftermath of the Haitian earthquake to help survivors.

- $125,000 to College Summit, a national nonprofit organization to increase college enrollment rates.

- $125,000 to the Posse Foundation, which awards scholarships to promising public high school students.

- $125,000 to the United Negro College Fund.

- $125,000 to the Hispanic Scholarship Fund.

_ $125,000 to the American Indian College Fund.

- $125,000 to the Appalachian Leadership and Education Foundation.

- $100,000 to AfriCare, which promotes health, food security and access to water primarily in Africa.

- $100,000 to the Central Asia Institute, which education and literacy, especially for girls, in remote regions of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

I get so angry thinking about how Obama was and still is treated.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:23:27am

re: #118 sagehen

And still accused him of pocketing the money.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:24:35am

re: #102 NetworkKed

…I don’t actually think Sanders would be outside the tent - I dislike him because he’s pitched his own but thinks we should give him ours as well.

I really don’t want to think about Sanders pitching a tent.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:24:37am

re: #120 Ace Rothstein

And still accused him of pocketing the money.

It was all one giant projection sigh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:25:39am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:26:46am

re: #121 Shropshire Slasher

I really don’t want to think about Sanders pitching a tent.

*WHACK!*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:30:07am

and he’s retweeting a bunch of Fitton/Judicial Watch nonsense

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:30:19am

re: #115 Rightwingconspirator

Unexpected not surprise,
State Dept. finds no ‘systemic’ classified violation in Hillary Clinton private-server emails
politico.com

Yep, the real “witch hunt”came up (as expected) empty. But it did it’s intended job.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:32:02am

re: #126 Eventual Carrion

Yep, the real “witch hunt”came up (as expected) empty. But it did it’s intended job.

Yep, she won’t be running in 2020. :)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:33:49am

re: #87 jaunte

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No rule says there can’t be more than one Russian tool.

Williamson is a Martian asset. There are no Martians but if there were, she is their candidate.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:37:00am

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Williamson is a Martian asset. There are no Martians but if there were, she is their candidate.

Taking the place of the supposedly “Minnesotan” representative Michele Bachmann (R-Mars).

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:38:37am

After this week, I’m really starting to believe this will be over soon.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:39:05am

re: #129 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Taking the place of the supposedly “Minnesotan” representative Michele Bachmann (R-Mars).

Believe she represented Neptune.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:39:52am

re: #130 makeitstop

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After this week, I’m really starting to believe this will be over soon.

It will be a good day. But it’ll only be the beginning of the rebuilding process.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:41:05am
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CarolJ  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:42:28am

re: #87 jaunte

Of course. There has to be a backup in case of disaster. While I think she’s too egotistical and too much woo for the Russians, I wouldn’t be surprised if she has an advisor or two who does have unknowingly to her-those ties. Experienced campaign help is hard to find, and one who actually thinks she has a real chance of getting something even harder. So who knows? If Tulsi has to drop out for some reason totally, perhaps Marianne could fill a gap of some sort.

And she has no electoral experience at all-which makes her even more manipulable by experts with their own agenda. Why not run for school board, Marianne? But running for school board first means engaging in the real world of budgets and neighbors, and possibly having to deal with them as equals. Nothing is more humbling I bet than having to deal with toilet replacement alottments and plowing through levy receipts.

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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:44:59am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

It will be a good day. But it’ll only be the beginning of the rebuilding process.

First things first. Feed Trump a huge plate of his own shit, and televise it.

Metaphorical head on a pike. Let all these other grifting sons of bitches know that their time is done. It’s probably dawning on them at this point, but we need to remove all doubt.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:45:28am

re: #134 CarolJ

Of course. There has to be a backup in case of disaster. While I think she’s too egotistical and too much woo for the Russians, I wouldn’t be surprised if she has an advisor or two who does have unknowingly to her-those ties. Experienced campaign help is hard to find, and one who actually thinks she has a real chance of getting something even harder. So who knows? If Tulsi has to drop out for some reason totally, perhaps Marianne could fill a gap of some sort.

And she has no electoral experience at all-which makes her even more manipulable by experts with their own agenda. Why not run for school board, Marianne? But running for school board first means engaging in the real world of budgets and neighbors, and possibly having to deal with them as equals. Nothing is more humbling I bet than having to deal with toilet replacement alottments and plowing through levy receipts.

I seriously think many people are totally oblivious to what a President does. I’m not supporting Biden but people I talk to who like Biden seem to have the best understanding of what the Executive branch does and how it works.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:45:55am

I need to get to work (doing some editing in a hipster coffee shop where the whispering is about to drive me insane), but I can’t stop obsessing about how bad things are. When I’m done I’m taking the dog for an extra long walk.

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mmmirele  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:46:43am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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and he’s retweeting a bunch of Fitton/Judicial Watch nonsense

That’s my congressman, Andy “I won the American Family Sweepstakes, that’s why I’m rich” Biggs. He is a complete Trump tool.

Andy’s people know exactly who I am, because I regularly make this point on his Facebook.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:47:05am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

It will be a good day. But it’ll only be the beginning of the rebuilding process.

We have to hold stuff together, but I really want Trump to destroy everything that makes the Republican party what it is. He has to bring them down.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:48:22am

re: #139 Belafon

We have to hold stuff together, but I really want Trump to destroy everything that makes the Republican party what it is. He has to bring them down.

Definitely. The GOP needs to die.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:48:46am

re: #137 Barefoot Grin

I need to get to work (doing some editing in a hipster coffee shop where the whispering is about to drive me insane), but I can’t stop obsessing about how bad things are. When I’m done I’m taking the dog for an extra long walk.

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There is, but the correct answer to those question is “No matter what the personal feelings of the employees are, they have always acted in a professional manner. I don’t ask about their politics, because it has not affected their work.”

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:51:47am

re: #126 Eventual Carrion

Yep, the real “witch hunt”came up (as expected) empty. But it did it’s intended job.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:53:00am

Not seeing a problem here.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:53:05am

HRC is a big scapegoat for a lot of people of various ideologies. Yelling at her makes them feel better for their own ideology’s shortcomings and failures.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:53:52am

re: #143 Belafon

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Not seeing a problem here.

Yeah. Tulsi gave away the game which should have been obvious given she’s Tucker’s favorite Democrat.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:55:50am

re: #130 makeitstop

The responses to that are terrifying. This is now beyond Q…a whole level of other craziness.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:56:54am

re: #146 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The responses to that are terrifying. This is now beyond Q…a whole level of other craziness.

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It’s hard to tell who’s a ratfucker and who’s a ratfuck.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2019 • 8:58:44am

Finally moved the whole computer setup out to the porch. Now the dogs are happy not to have to go in and out, patrolling their domain.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:01:45am

QUOI? I want to see her DD-214.

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BigPapa  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:05:58am

Here’s a long read into Toolsi’s cult. Lot’s of correlation with what I’ve previously read.

Butler’s Web: Krishna, Politics, and QNET’s International Pyramid Scheme
Featured Story, Part One of a Three-part Series
by Christine Gralow

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:07:13am

John Cho, who is playing Spike Spiegel, suffered a knee injury on the set. Production has been stopped for 7-9 months. He’s going to require surgery.

deadline.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:09:43am

re: #149 Sherlock Hound

QUOI? I want to see her DD-214.

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It’s telling to me who has taken the bait. HRC didn’t say Tulsi but age, Yang, & Williamson seem to know it. Guilty conscience I guess over using Kremlin lines and apologizing for Assad.

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retired cynic  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:10:06am

re: #149 Sherlock Hound

That one tweet takes care of every single decent thought I had about Yang. All gone.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:10:36am

re: #149 Sherlock Hound

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:11:38am

re: #153 retired cynic

That one tweet takes care of every single decent thought I had about Yang. All gone.

Ditto. I like UBI but screw him.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:16:21am

re: #149 Sherlock Hound

Primary elections haven’t started yet. Judging from the outrage Tulsi is a threat to the perceived front runners. You gotta be in it to win it. Let’s see what happens in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada first.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:18:58am

re: #156 Shropshire Slasher

Primary elections haven’t started yet. Judging from the outrage Tulsi is a threat to the perceived front runners. You gotta be in it to win it. Let’s see what happens in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada first.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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retired cynic  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:19:42am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Ditto. I like UBI but screw him.

Reading that thread, and it turns out he has not released his taxes yet. Hmmm. Good tweet:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:20:33am

re: #158 retired cynic

Reading that thread, and it turns out he has not released his taxes yet. Hmmm. Good tweet:

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Absolutely.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:21:41am

re: #149 Sherlock Hound

QUOI? I want to see her DD-214.

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A lot of the pro-Tulsi comments start with “I support Yang, but…” and “I support Bernie, but….” and basically parrot what Yang wrote.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:23:51am

re: #156 Shropshire Slasher

She’s a fucking traitor working for Assad and Putin to help destroy this nation. She needs to die in a prison cell next to the Trumps, nothing else.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:24:54am

re: #156 Shropshire Slasher

Primary elections haven’t started yet. Judging from the outrage Tulsi is a threat to the perceived front runners. You gotta be in it to win it. Let’s see what happens in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada first.

Tulsi does not represent anything about the Democratic party. She is here to play spoiler, and the only reason she advances is because of Russia and Republicans who don’t have anything else to do. Kind of like why you’re here.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:29:50am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:32:26am

re: #163 jaunte

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They’re showing their true colors imo.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:32:32am

Happy Saturday folks, Happy Sunday across the dateline. Los Angeles local news is abuzz about this secret cargo going from Redondo to San Diego.

Less than a day ago, The War Zone reported on a mysterious and very large object related to a “U.S. Navy demonstration program” that was being shipped by Northrop Grumman from the relatively small marine in Redondo Beach to San Diego. Now, as the object is set to be transported via truck to the pier, we know what it is. It is a high-energy laser system that we can say with near certainty is part of the Solid-State Laser Technology Maturation (SSL-TM) program that Northrop Grumman won the contract for in 2015.

thedrive.com

(Pic from 2005)

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:32:38am

re: #162 Belafon

She is young, she is pretty, and she is a threat judging from the responses here. Hillary Clinton didn’t need to throw that red meat to the masses unless she thought that Tulsi could upset the primary.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:33:18am

Weird how fast conservatives decided they were on the side of traitors and the Russian mob.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:33:29am

I don’t see how people who think the Dem establishment was too conservative embracing SAM(fair) but totally ignore that Tulsi was out and out homophobic.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:34:12am

re: #166 Shropshire Slasher

She is young, she is pretty, and she is a threat judging from the responses here. Hillary Clinton didn’t need to throw that red meat to the masses unless she thought that Tulsi could upset the primary.

It’s that she’s an Assad apologist who started out as a homophobe, you trolling asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:35:00am

She also didn’t even say Tulsi Gabbard but I’m glad that Tuldi knows what she’s done is shady and worthy of condemnation.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:35:17am

My only point I’m trying to make is that they are trying to knock Tulsi out before the primaries. Don’t get your knickers in a twist thinking I’m Vlad, comrades.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:35:58am

re: #166 Shropshire Slasher

She is young, she is pretty, and she is a threat judging from the responses here. Hillary Clinton didn’t need to throw that red meat to the masses unless she thought that Tulsi could upset the primary.

BWAHAHA. I love the willful misreading.

Why won’t people put a little arsenic in their food? Is it that much of a threat to the traditional flavors?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:36:00am

Oh and despite all evidence she acts like Trump doesn’t act Improper in regards to Russia.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:36:20am

It would be absurd to think I was scamming you, wheedled the scammer.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:36:21am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Thank you. You shouldn’t hate.

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bratwurst  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:36:59am

re: #156 Shropshire Slasher

Judging from the outrage Tulsi is a threat to the perceived front runners.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:37:07am

re: #175 Shropshire Slasher

Thank you. You shouldn’t hate.

Dude get a fucking life.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:37:49am

re: #171 Shropshire Slasher

My only point I’m trying to make is that they are trying to knock Tulsi out before the primaries. Don’t get your knickers in a twist thinking I’m Vlad, comrades.

Yep, and people have also tried to knock out Yang, Beto, Pete, and the other 100 or so Democratic candidates.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:39:25am

re: #178 Belafon

Yep, and people have also tried to knock out Yang, Beto, Pete, and the other 100 or so Democratic candidates.

Warren’s faces plenty of criticism from the Dem establishment. I don’t see her crying about a conspiracy against her.

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retired cynic  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:39:50am

OK, change of pace. Just read this with my mouth hanging open.

Ultimate free-range kids: Two boys, 6 and 10, rode horses to New York — from Oklahoma WaPo

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:40:26am

re: #180 retired cynic

OK, change of pace. Just read this with my mouth hanging open.

Ultimate free-range kids: Two boys, 6 and 10, rode horses to New York — from Oklahoma WaPo

That’s incredible.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:40:44am

re: #171 Shropshire Slasher

I wouldn’t accuse you of being a Russian bot.

They have better arguments than you.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:42:07am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:42:40am

re: #182 Sufficient unto the day…

I wouldn’t accuse you of being a Russian bot.

They have better arguments than you.

Indeed.

When your sole purpose is to troll, that’s what you do and that’s what you are.

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CarolJ  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:44:50am

re: #166 Shropshire Slasher

She’s not going to upset the primary. Upsetting the primary means she would have to at least poll in double digits somewhere and actually get some primary votes. With the 15% threshold in order to get delegates, Tulsi isn’t going to spend much time getting them. Indeed, the trumpet of doom is about to arrive for all of the single digit candidates. Most of them will ego back to their current political gigs and wait until there’s a nominee to campaign for them in their respective states.

Hawaii is sapphire blue, so no need for even working to get a good turnout for other candidates. Tulsi will soon have to drop out or face nothing but losses in the primary. Tulsi knows this but will pretend she was pushed out by the DNC rather than by Democratic Primary voters. So she’s going independent in order to “have her say”. Clinton has just nipped that in the bud.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:46:52am

re: #185 CarolJ

But a side effect of that is that Clinton just gave her better name recognition. A little gravitas.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:48:23am

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:49:16am
A face-to-face confrontation between Hillary Clinton and Rep. Tulsi Gabbard set for next week was averted when Clinton backed out of the Fortune Most Powerful Women Summit in Washington, DC.

Clinton aides cited a scheduling conflict late Friday when she announced her withdrawal from a speaking slot at the annual event. One insider told Slate that Clinton dropped out to protest the inclusion of former Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielson on the schedule.

nypost.com

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CarolJ  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:51:46am

re: #186 Shropshire Slasher

Name recognition doesn’t really matter in a Primary election. Those Democrats who are going to be voting on the nominee already know who she is and have already rejected her as a possible candidate. Remember this is a primary, and primaries have a much more involved electorate, In addition, she isn’t the only person on the ballot, and I suspect way more people care about Warren and Biden than even think about Tulsi.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:51:49am

Don’t forget that Tulsi tweeted that the Mueller report exonerated Trump.

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BigPapa  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:52:57am

Toolsi frequently spouts wingnut tropes and positions. She’s a DINO.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:53:13am

re: #190 BlueSpotinAL

Don’t forget that Tulsi tweeted that the Mueller report exonerated Trump.

I had forgotten that. Yeah why on Earth would the Democratic Party’s last nominee have a problem with an individual like that. One that willingly pushes false narratives that benefit Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:53:50am

re: #191 BigPapa

Toolsi frequently spouts wingnut tropes and positions. She’s a DINO.

You’re in Hawaii iirc. Is she your Rep? She’s a grade A phony imo.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:55:03am

re: #166 Shropshire Slasher

She’s a traitor who is a member of a homophobic and islamophobic cult and has been masquerading as a democrat because the Hawaiians are too smart to elect open republicans. The only threat is from people stupid enough to fall for her and those who, like you, push her continued Anti-American agenda.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:56:10am

re: #171 Shropshire Slasher

Truth’s a bitch, isn’t it puppet?

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2019 • 9:59:19am

re: #180 retired cynic

OK, change of pace. Just read this with my mouth hanging open.

Ultimate free-range kids: Two boys, 6 and 10, rode horses to New York — from Oklahoma WaPo

DRIVING back home in 1910 is even more amazing.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:00:53am

re: #186 Shropshire Slasher

But a side effect of that is that Clinton just gave her better name recognition. A little gravitas.

Charles Manson had name recognition too after his outburst. Didn’t help him much.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:02:40am

Ugh. I go away for a while and I miss all the fun.

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mmmirele  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:03:23am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

It’s that she’s an Assad apologist who started out as a homophobe, you trolling asshole.

And she’s soft on a woman’s right to control our own bodies. Let’s not forget that.

We also must not forget that she’s deeply involved in a cult where the leader is worshiped as a Hindu avatar. That article from Meanwhile In Hawaii is eye-opening:

meanwhileinhawaii.org

I did some further nosing around and found that Gabbard is also involved, at least peripherally, with a pyramid scheme called “QI Group” (has had other names in other countries). There are few things that infuriate me more than out and out pyramid schemes and their little siblings “network marketing”, where it’s claimed you sell a product but recruiting a downline is pushed very hard.

The more I learn about Tulsi, the more I find her to be dangerous.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:05:38am

re: #199 mmmirele

And she’s soft on a woman’s right to control our own bodies. Let’s not forget that.

We also must not forget that she’s deeply involved in a cult where the leader is worshiped as a Hindu avatar. That article from Meanwhile In Hawaii is eye-opening:

meanwhileinhawaii.org

I did some further nosing around and found that Gabbard is also involved, at least peripherally, with a pyramid scheme called “QI Group” (has had other names in other countries). There are few things that infuriate me more than out and out pyramid schemes and their little siblings “network marketing”, where it’s claimed you sell a product but recruiting a downline is pushed very hard.

The more I learn about Tulsi, the more I find her to be dangerous.

Thanks. There really is a lot to dislike about her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:05:47am

moron

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NetworkKed  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:06:07am

Wow, I wondered why the comment rate spiked while I got distracted by PEL promotions.

The thing I wonder about Gabbard - are there any actual supporters out there? The numbers are in the range where a moderately active astroturfing campaign could be driving it all, and you never seem to encounter people promoting her in good faith.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:09:01am

re: #195 William Lewis

Coming from you that honestly hurts.

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CarolJ  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:11:32am

re: #202 NetworkKed

Probably not very many. Partly I think it would be geography-Hawaii isn’t even on the continent per se, so you don’t even get the personal buzz from acquaintances who have been there and met her. Think about how Obama got a boost from people who went to Illinois and met him and heard him speak, how he was able to travel around the country and people could get to meet him and speak, from the social connections. Tulsi would have to come to the mainland and stay there. The other part is her cultish connections-one thing about that is the kind of gregariousness that leads to outreach is strongly warned against in them. It can be overcome, but you can’t even try to do that until you are an adult, so no high school acquaintances or college buddies. It takes time to throw off the control-and the controlling attitudes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:11:47am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:12:21am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Didn’t even spell Ken Starrs name right.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:13:01am

I’m still concerned about the whole Gabbard/Hillary thing. Not because Gabbard doesn’t deserve the dunking, because fuck that shit, of course she does.

It’s the fact that we’re seeing signs that Hillary animus is once again overwhelming it all and being applied transitively to Dems as a whole, and far from learning the lessons of 2016, the media are tripling down more than ever. And even folks who should know fucking better, like Josh Marshall and others, are deciding to take Tulsi’s side on the matter and scream “how dare she!”s at Hillary. It doesn’t matter that she’s been literally right about every single shit of this, that Trump is even worse than she imagined and even more than half of his supporters are card-carrying deplorables who will not be moved.

Nope, it’s still the mainstream media selling the idea that the only good Dem is a Dem like Gabbard, who literally stands contrary to almost everything the actual Dems are trying to do, who is standing athwart any attempts to hold Trump and the GOP accountable.

And remember, we here, on Twitter, etc. are the junkies, the one who put this stuff in our veins. The rest of the country only hears what the mainstream media is putting out, and with the added bonus of Facebook and Twitter tipping their hands to make it obvious they’re in the tank for the GOP wholesale as well.

Between this, the continued circular firing squad the primaries are inspiring, and the clear attempts to do to everyone in the Dem line what they did to Hillary…I’m fucking terrified right now. Especially when Trump is able to basically just do all his crimes out in the open, and the media refuses to give it more than a day’s worth of coverage long as they have Hillary or someone Hillary-adjacent to boogeyman.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:13:25am

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Taking their loyalty for granted.”

No, Trump would NEVER do that!

///

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:14:19am
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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:14:30am

re: #203 Shropshire Slasher

Coming from you that honestly hurts.

Sorry, I’ve updinged you when you say good things but this is just you being contrary not using any kind of rational consideration. IOW, you may not be a puppet but you’re acting like one.

Tulsi is a fake Democrat who was running to set up a third party run ala Dr. Jill last time and funded by the same people in Moscow. Hillary’s comments forced her to forswear doing that so she’s now no use for the people backing her pretend run.

If you can’t see that, as obvious as it is, then it’s time for a clueX4.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:20:28am

Well, I walked out of the Los Angeles DSA convention since Berniebots are instituting a purity test. Nice to see that they allowed Tulsitwats to join them but we Warren supporters are not welcome…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:20:54am

re: #162 Belafon

Tulsi does not represent anything about the Democratic party. She is here to play spoiler, and the only reason she advances is because of Russia and Republicans who don’t have anything else to do. Kind of like why you’re here.

They have no primary campaign of their own, so they are free to dedicate themselves fully to sticking spokes in the DNC’s wheels

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:23:05am

re: #210 William Lewis

Sorry, I’ve updinged you when you say good things but this is just you being contrary not using any kind of rational consideration. IOW, you may not be a puppet but you’re acting like one.

Tulsi is a fake Democrat who was running to set up a third party run ala Dr. Jill last time and funded by the same people in Moscow. Hillary’s comments forced her to forswear doing that so she’s now no use for the people backing her pretend run.

If you can’t see that, as obvious as it is, then it’s time for a clueX4.

Tulsi has three strikes against her—she’s been endorsed by David Duke and Steve Bannon and when she’s called out she goes running to Tucker Carlson’s White Trash Power Hour.

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retired cynic  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:25:11am

re: #210 William Lewis

Sorry, I’ve updinged you when you say good things but this is just you being contrary not using any kind of rational consideration. IOW, you may not be a puppet but you’re acting like one.

Tulsi is a fake Democrat who was running to set up a third party run ala Dr. Jill last time and funded by the same people in Moscow. Hillary’s comments forced her to forswear doing that so she’s now no use for the people backing her pretend run.

If you can’t see that, as obvious as it is, then it’s time for a clueX4.

Just because TG said in a tweet that she won’t run as an independent doesn’t mean she won’t. I don’t trust her to walk a straight line.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:25:27am

re: #211 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well, I walked out of the Los Angeles DSA convention since Berniebots are instituting a purity test. Nice to see that they allowed Tulsitwats to join them but we Warren supporters are not welcome…

I really think Warren is the best choice at this point. She’s grown on me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:26:38am

re: #213 Joe Bacon 🌹

Tulsi has three strikes against her—she’s been endorsed by David Duke and Steve Bannon and when she’s called out she goes running to Tucker Carlson’s White Trash Power Hour.

Her career genesis bitching about the homosexual agenda is another. I didn’t like the conservative approach the Dem leadership took on SSM but it wasn’t homophobic.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:27:10am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

I really think Warren is the best choice at this point. She’s grown on me.

Warren is what I’m in on because unfortunately my first choice of Harris has been properly Hillary’d into oblivion it looks like.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:28:25am

re: #217 Citizen K

Warren is what I’m in on because unfortunately my first choice of Harris has been properly Hillary’d into oblivion it looks like.

My first choice was Beto. Harris has yeah unfortunately been HRCed and I hate that. I like Booker and Castro too but neither caught on.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:28:35am

re: #211 Joe Bacon 🌹

Unfortunate. I consider myself still a member but as long as this blindness continues they don’t get any money from me.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:30:30am

re: #214 retired cynic

Just because TG said in a tweet that she won’t run as an independent doesn’t mean she won’t. I don’t trust her to walk a straight line.

Agreed but it makes a good hammer if she does try it. No, I expect they’ll put their money on someone else. Williamson would be a good bit of Woo-Woo for the G(etting)r(epublicans)e(lected)e(every)n(ovember) party.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:31:00am

re: #219 William Lewis

Unfortunate. I consider myself still a member but as long as this blindness continues they don’t get any money from me.

It’s frustrating because while I’m not as economic lefty as you and Joe are, I’m sympathetic but the Bernie cult really bothers me for both the cult of personality and often sexism that exists within it. They’re happy AOC and Omar endorsed Sanders no doubt but I know what would be said if either endorsed Warren.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:31:51am
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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:32:04am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

I really think Warren is the best choice at this point. She’s grown on me.

I’ll keep saying it - I like Warren/Buttigieg as a ticket. She’s got real ideas and plans & he’s willing to attack the fake Christians head on.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:34:05am

re: #223 William Lewis

I’ll keep saying it - I like Warren/Buttigieg as a ticket. She’s got real ideas and plans & he’s willing to attack the fake Christians head on.

I’ll take it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:36:15am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

I’ll take it.

Seconded.

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Citizen K  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:36:25am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

It’s frustrating because while I’m not as economic lefty as you and Joe are, I’m sympathetic but the Bernie cult really bothers me for both the cult of personality and often sexism that exists within it. They’re happy AOC and Omar endorsed Sanders no doubt but I know what would be said if either endorsed Warren.

Thing is, on a purely economic standpoint, I’m probably much closer to Sanders than any other candidate. I just have issue with 1) the fact that they’re willing to take such a ‘burn it down’ approach to getting what they want, and 2) the attempt to distill everything down into pure economics while shitting on the very concept of whatever they consider ‘identity politics’. I would love to bring about some kind of leftytopia, but I also know enough that there’s no way to do that within a generation, much less an election cycle, that either won’t result in scorched earth or vast swaths of minorities left brushed aside and ignored.

I at the very least trust AOC, Omar, and others to not shit the bed and refuse to endorse the eventual candidate, but I can’t help but feel like so many others will be wholly content to ratfuck us on the off chance that they can build from the ashes of what’s left after Trump.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:38:01am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:41:15am

re: #226 Citizen K

Thing is, on a purely economic standpoint, I’m probably much closer to Sanders than any other candidate. I just have issue with 1) the fact that they’re willing to take such a ‘burn it down’ approach to getting what they want, and 2) the attempt to distill everything down into pure economics while shitting on the very concept of whatever they consider ‘identity politics’. I would love to bring about some kind of leftytopia, but I also know enough that there’s no way to do that within a generation, much less an election cycle, that either won’t result in scorched earth or vast swaths of minorities left brushed aside and ignored.

I at the very least trust AOC, Omar, and others to not shit the bed and refuse to endorse the eventual candidate, but I can’t help but feel like so many others will be wholly content to ratfuck us on the off chance that they can build from the ashes of what’s left after Trump.

Yeah it’s the way they dismiss “identity politics.”

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:46:44am

re: #223 William Lewis

Michael Moore has other ideas.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:49:09am

re: #229 Dave In Austin

Moore doesn’t like Warren?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:49:24am

re: #213 Joe Bacon 🌹

Tulsi has three strikes against her—she’s been endorsed by David Duke and Steve Bannon and when she’s called out she goes running to Tucker Carlson’s White Trash Power Hour.

☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:50:15am

re: #214 retired cynic

Just because TG said in a tweet that she won’t run as an independent doesn’t mean she won’t. I don’t trust her to walk a straight line.

Of course she will. Words are meaningless. She’s a liar. Full out.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:52:45am

re: #230 HappyWarrior

Moore doesn’t like Warren?

He was on something last nite the the Bernie is our only salvation……….. the slathering was unlistenable

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:54:10am

re: #227 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:54:23am

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Just as Putin and his criminals here in the states want it. Less people to expose their crimes. All decisions lead to Putin.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 19, 2019 • 10:54:37am

re: #233 Dave In Austin

He was on something last nite the the Bernie is our only salvation……….. the slathering was unlistenable

Oh God. Well I’m not surprised. I don’t trust Moore’s judgment at all on politics.

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dharmamark  Oct 19, 2019 • 12:58:56pm

re: #223 William Lewis

I could be down with that.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 19, 2019 • 1:17:59pm

re: #151 Belafon

Damn - so much for joining Netflix for now….


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