And Now, a Very Special Scary Pockets With Ben Folds & Maiya Sykes: “Kate” [VIDEO]

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Musicians
Lead vocal: Maiya Sykes
Keys: Ben Folds & Jack Conte
Guitar: Ryan Lerman
Drums: Tamir Barzilay
Bass: Joe Ayoub

Recording Engineer: Caleb Parker
Mixing/Mastering: Caleb Parker
Video Production: Ricky Chavez
Production Design: Corey Lubowich
HMU: Roxanne McDanel

Recorded Live at Scary Pockets HQ in Highland Park, CA.

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301 comments

1
Rightwingconspirator  Oct 23, 2019 • 5:54:56pm

That’s some wild vibrato in that voice. Whole thing cheered me up. Loong daaay.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 23, 2019 • 5:55:36pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 23, 2019 • 5:57:59pm
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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 23, 2019 • 5:59:31pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Drudge is surprising me the most, I wouldn’t be shocked if he is turning more wingnuts than all mainstream media combined.

Trump’s silence on his treatment from Drudge is interesting too, wonder how long that will last?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:00:18pm

OK, I’m literally crying here

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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:05:19pm
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stpaulbear  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:11:44pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I’m literally crying here

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The dog’s face just lit up when she finally laughed.

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DesertDenizen  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:13:29pm

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Oh ffs, now I’ve got to have the wall to the south and the east? //

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:16:04pm

Last night I watched Frontline: Zero Tolerance. That was very scary how it planned and worked out. Tonight I will watch something much better: Sense and Sensibility.

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TedStriker  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:19:28pm

Ben Folds, one of my most favorite “occasional Nashvillians” (as many musicians that work outside of country music tend to be that live here, such as Peter Frampton); he was the driving force that kept RCA Studio A (which he leased and sublet parts of to other musicians for years) from getting demolished and replaced by another glass-and-metal residential tower like those that have completely changed the Music Row/Gulch area in recent years.

He may have voted for Bernie last time, but I’m not necessarily going to hold a grudge against him for that… ;-P

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plansbandc  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:19:44pm

It’s good when Jesus loves your wiener.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:20:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:23:10pm
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:24:06pm

re: #11 plansbandc

That is so sweet.

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Chrysicat  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:29:04pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:30:07pm

Won’t go anywhere in the Senate though.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:30:35pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Just an average day in the life of a northern breed household. Both my Malamutes were like that. Honestly, they ruined all other breeds for me. :))))

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stpaulbear  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:31:00pm

re: #10 TedStriker

Ben Folds, one of my most favorite “occasional Nashvillians” (as many musicians that work outside of country music tend to be that live here, such as Peter Frampton); he was the driving force that kept RCA Studio A (which he leased and sublet parts of to other musicians for years) from getting demolished and replaced by another glass-and-metal residential tower like those that have completely changed the Music Row/Gulch area in recent years.

He may have voted for Bernie last time, but I’m not necessarily going to hold a grudge against him for that… ;-P

I was really surprised to learn that Robyn Hitchcock was now living in Nashville. That just didn’t seem possible.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:34:51pm

Wait. Am I behind the times? Bloomberg is reporting that the whistleblower isn’t going to testify now?! What…..

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uncah91  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:39:48pm

re: #19 GlutenFreeJesus

Not sure whether that is true, but the whistleblower’s testimony probably can’t add to the testimony already received. No reason to force them out of anonymity.

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TedStriker  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:45:15pm

re: #19 GlutenFreeJesus

Wait. Am I behind the times? Bloomberg is reporting that the whistleblower isn’t going to testify now?! What…..

re: #20 uncah91

Not sure whether that is true, but the whistleblower’s testimony probably can’t add to the testimony already received. No reason to force them out of anonymity.

And, after what happened today at the HPSCI SCIF with Gaetz’s Charge of the Blight Brigade mob, combined with Trump’s wanting the whistleblower hung, I can see and totally understand why if the whistleblower no longer wants to testify.

I can’t help but feel that Trump, Gaetz, and the GOP thugs successfully intimidated them.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:49:46pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:50:57pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:51:56pm

re: #16 Patricia Kayden

Won’t go anywhere in the Senate though.

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Sadly No the GOP considers cruelty as a benefit or feature, not a flaw. Addicted.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:55:25pm

re: #19 GlutenFreeJesus

If that whistleblower testified, Trump would have he/she murdered. I’m not kidding.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 23, 2019 • 6:56:35pm

re: #25 Ace Rothstein

If that whistleblower testified, Trump would have he/she murdered. I’m not kidding.

Protect he or she well, let him try.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:01:23pm

re: #21 TedStriker

And after what happened today at the HPSCI SCIF with Gaetz’s Charge of the Blight Brigade mob, combined with Trump’s wanting the whistleblower hung, I can see why and totally understand if the whistleblower no longer wants to testify.

I can’t help but feel that Trump, Gaetz, and the GOP thugs successfully intimidated them.

There is no need for the whistleblower to testify. They had no first hand knowledge of any of the actions they reported. It was those who were actually involved who needed to be interrogated.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:01:36pm

Stay the entire fuck away from this shit for at least another couple months fam.

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mmmirele  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:04:06pm

I thought that MLB umpire bit was disturbing, but I wasn’t troubled…

until I saw that he lives here in Mesa, Arizona, on his now-deleted Twitter.

I know there are nearly a half-million people in Mesa, but damn, if that didn’t send a chill down my backside.

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:04:09pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:05:03pm
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TedStriker  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:07:32pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

Stay the entire fuck away from this shit for at least another couple months fam.

I saw on Ars Technica that Apple’s already put out a supplemental update for Catalina.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:10:02pm

So it appears that Andrew Yang is Tulsi Gabbard’s understudy. Who is surprised by this?

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:16:09pm

lol, wingnuts can’t even get arrested right:

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:18:27pm

What’s weird is that these assholes have to know that their ridiculous hardline stances are self defeating. Their client has put them in such a horrid goddamned position that they’re stuck making the most logically and intellectually offensive arguments possible. Any halfway decent professional would just quit before standing in front of an appeals court panel and spewing this putrid fuckshit.

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EPR-radar  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:18:46pm

re: #34 b.d. (It’s All True)

There’s no real need to arrest these turds on the spot. The crimes they have committed aren’t going away.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:19:36pm

re: #32 TedStriker

I saw on Ars Technica that Apple’s already put out a supplemental update for Catalina.

Any notes on their fixing this abomination that’s iOS 13?

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EPR-radar  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:21:04pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

What’s weird is that these assholes have to know that their ridiculous hardline stances are self defeating. Their client has put them in such a horrid goddamned position that they’re stuck making the most logically and intellectually offensive arguments possible. Any halfway decent professional would just quit before standing in front of an appeals court panel and spewing this putrid fuckshit.

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These are arguments made by ‘lawyers’ who believe the only thing that matters in any politically relevant court case is the partisan affiliation of the ‘judges’.

For now that’s mostly incorrect, but Republicans are working diligently to change that.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:21:11pm

re: #32 TedStriker

I saw on Ars Technica that Apple’s already put out a supplemental update for Catalina.

Yeah, and it did fuck all. If I take this laptop to some place with a public wifi I need to reboot into safe mode to get the captive portal to load. Command + Space Spotlight searches don’t work on external disks, and today Safari just fucking forgot how to load Twitter until I did another reboot.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:21:31pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:23:10pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

Assholes like Ben Shapiro have a real talent for projection. Turning people into soulless husks for the greater glory of the 0.001% is the entirety of the US conservative project.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:23:41pm

re: #34 b.d. (It’s All True)

lol, wingnuts can’t even get arrested right:

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Pergram needs to learn how to do a tweet-thread.

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:23:50pm

The Shapiro Plaint: “What will become of the agitators-for-profit when every minority becomes boring and useless for rabble rousing?”

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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:24:10pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:25:16pm

So blatant.

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Belafon  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:26:49pm

re: #45 Patricia Kayden

So blatant.

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Trump: But I’m not getting anything out of it.

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jeffreyw  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:32:23pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:33:39pm
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stpaulbear  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:35:15pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

What’s weird is that these assholes have to know that their ridiculous hardline stances are self defeating. Their client has put them in such a horrid goddamned position that they’re stuck making the most logically and intellectually offensive arguments possible. Any halfway decent professional would just quit before standing in front of an appeals court panel and spewing this putrid fuckshit.

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Didn’t they even go as far as to tell the judge that the cops couldn’t stop the president from shooting more people if he were to go on a rampage?

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:36:04pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:37:24pm

re: #44 gocart mozart

This bit of ass-cancer known as Matt Gaetz has real delusions of grandeur.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:38:34pm

re: #51 EPR-radar

Ass cancer is more fun than Matt Gaetz.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:38:37pm

re: #49 stpaulbear

Didn’t they even go as far as to tell the judge that the cops couldn’t stop the president from shooting more people if he were to go on a rampage?

That’s what Maddow inferred from their argument, but no that was not explicitly asked or stated. I’d argue that stopping a crime spree in process is not the same thing as investigating and that she was being too clever by half.

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EPR-radar  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:40:43pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

That’s what Maddow inferred from their argument, but no that was not explicitly asked or stated. I’d argue that stopping a crime spree in process is not the same thing as investigating and that she was being too clever by half.

The other side can lie at will, and the good guys have to argue with mathematical precision or be hen-pecked by fact checkers. It’s true that Maddow screwed up here, but it’s also true that the rules of the game are deeply, profoundly unfair.

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TedStriker  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:46:24pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, and it did fuck all. If I take this laptop to some place with a public wifi I need to reboot into safe mode to get the captive portal to load. Command + Space Spotlight searches don’t work on external disks, and today Safari just fucking forgot how to load Twitter until I did another reboot.

Egads…as much crap some people give Win10, I have to say that I’ve not had any showstopper bugs happen to me in all of the versions/updates so far. Minor issues, yes, but no major ones.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:48:30pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:48:50pm

re: #32 TedStriker

I saw on Ars Technica that Apple’s already put out a supplemental update for Catalina.

Ever since I updated to Catalina have had problems with Time Machine. Every day it updates at least 10 GB and it takes an hour to prepare before starting to backup very, very slow!

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:49:36pm
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Chrysicat  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:50:13pm

re: #37 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Any notes on their fixing this abomination that’s iOS 13?

I think they may be planning on making it even worse.

My iPhone just informed me that it’s downloaded a forced update from 13.12 to 13.13, to install in its next downtime.

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wrenchwench  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:51:40pm

re: #56 The Pie Overlord!

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This tweet was faster than I:

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:52:04pm

JFC this is utter breathtaking horse shit.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:52:43pm
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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:53:37pm

re: #62 Dave In Austin

vomit

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:53:53pm

re: #62 Dave In Austin

Ethnically cleansing the Kurds isn’t putting them in a shower, Johnny.

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TedStriker  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:58:09pm

re: #64 Ace Rothstein

Ethnically cleansing the Kurds isn’t putting them in a shower, Johnny.

It is if said “shower” dispenses Zyklon B…

*retch*

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:58:23pm

re: #62 Dave In Austin

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Cornholio would sing a different tunes if the Kurds were white…or they were fetuses…

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 23, 2019 • 7:58:44pm

re: #61 The Pie Overlord!

I’m confused. Does Chris really think this is what the RethugiKKKans should do?

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BigPapa  Oct 23, 2019 • 8:00:04pm

‘This is just some light ethnic cleansing. It’s not good but let’s not make a big deal out of if.’ - Cornyn

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2019 • 8:01:36pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2019 • 8:02:23pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 23, 2019 • 8:02:49pm

Because that’s the only way they can win.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 23, 2019 • 8:05:36pm

Why of course this headline is from the NY Times, did you think it was from Breitbart or something?

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 23, 2019 • 8:08:47pm

re: #72 The Pie Overlord!

I cancelled my subscription three years ago.

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retired cynic  Oct 23, 2019 • 8:17:02pm

re: #73 Ace Rothstein

I cancelled my subscription three years ago.

ditto

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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2019 • 8:19:04pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 23, 2019 • 8:22:30pm

re: #71 The Pie Overlord!

Run ads against them. They should be quizzed about this on every talk show and Democrats should keep bringing up these bills.

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stpaulbear  Oct 23, 2019 • 8:43:57pm

re: #72 The Pie Overlord!

Why of course this headline is from the NY Times, did you think it was from Breitbart or something?

Apart from the occasional column by Marc Thiessen, I’m still pretty happy to subscribe to the WaPo. I like this headline from today that gives Betsy DeVos the respect she deserves:

Betsy DeVos blasts ‘Tinseltown’ for ignoring a movie she likes and calls her critics ‘bullies’

Education Secretary Betsy DeVos on Wednesday used a speech marking the 15th anniversary of a school voucher program to blast Hollywood for not supporting a movie she likes. She also used a new term for her critics: “bullies.”

DeVos appeared at a celebration of the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program, the only federally funded school voucher program in the country. It uses public money to provide subsidies to more than 1,000 low-income families to help pay for tuition at private and religious schools.

She also attacked Hollywood for failing to show interest in a new film called “Miss Virginia,” which tells the story of Virginia Walden Ford, a prominent black D.C. activist who fought for vouchers in the late 1990s and 2000s so her son could go to a private school. As Washington Post reporter Perry Stein wrote, the movie’s villain is a fictitious D.C. congresswoman who appeared to be based on Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D), a longtime opponent of vouchers.

The film was produced not by a well-known Hollywood moviemaker but by Moving Picture Institute, which is financially backed by the Mercer Family Foundation, a major donor to Republicans, according to foundation tax filings. It was released this month and shown in about a dozen theaters across the country, Stein reported, and is available on iTunes and video on demand.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 23, 2019 • 8:48:58pm

re: #65 TedStriker

It is if said “shower” dispenses Zyklon B…

*retch*

Reason #1,433 why I DESPISE the term “ethnic cleansing”: Online Nazis just laugh and make “ironic” jokes about “cleansing action with Zyklon-B”. (The Serbs coined the original phrase. Don’t use it. Milosevic doesn’t need a good laugh in Hell.)

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Jason Munro  Oct 23, 2019 • 9:18:51pm

One of my favorite Ben Folds songs. Also love her Scary Pockets Coldplay cover. Also fuck Trump, Gaetz (sp?), and all the other spineless assholes covering for this criminal. Seriously this timeline sucks. How is it fucking possible? Don’t answer, I know why :/

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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2019 • 9:19:55pm
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jaunte  Oct 23, 2019 • 9:23:14pm

They must have cut the pizza scenes from 300 in the final edit.

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gocart mozart  Oct 23, 2019 • 9:27:35pm
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jaunte  Oct 23, 2019 • 9:27:41pm

Yeah, don’t sleep, try to paper over the holes in your brain.

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2019 • 9:29:05pm

(Kiddingly) “Human scum!”

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Targetpractice  Oct 23, 2019 • 9:34:43pm

re: #61 The Pie Overlord!

JFC this is utter breathtaking horse shit.

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Yeah, no, that’s not going to work. Why? Because the internet is forever and there is a wealth of evidence, from videos to text, of Republicans making all sorts of excuses why Bill Clinton deserved to be booted from office even if Americans felt he’d committed no crime. It was about “cleansing the office,” according to Leningrad Lindsey.

Not that they won’t try, but it’s not going to be a winner when you’re a pack of wraiths who sold their souls for cheap.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 23, 2019 • 9:37:38pm

WTF is this incoherent word salad? Jesus, this is embarrassing!

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jaunte  Oct 23, 2019 • 9:39:09pm

Definitely a very packed auditorium, Orange Rainman.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 23, 2019 • 9:57:59pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:00:33pm

re: #86 Ace-o-aces

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:01:46pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:03:47pm
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LastYearsMan  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:17:23pm

re: #91 Dread Pirate

Don’t forget this fun one:

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austin_blue  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:21:04pm

re: #86 Ace-o-aces

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WTF is this incoherent word salad? Jesus, this is embarrassing!

It’s not embarrassing, it is reality.

It is far worse. He is insane.

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sgcleve  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:22:28pm

Watched this video. Watched the Scary Pockets video posted last week with Therese Curatolo. Went into YouTube for more and ended up in the Post Modern Jukebox channel and now have tickets to go see them when they are in town next week.

Thanks Charles. Looking forward to the show. Can’t wait to see which singers will be here.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:28:49pm

GOP - “We support the vets!”

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uriel  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:31:13pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

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austin_blue  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:37:27pm

Off to Alpine tomorrow. We are getting the neighborhood band back together for the annual Big Bend reunion. Couple of gigs in dive bars, and enjoying one of the blackest skies in the US. New moon, so even better.

If you haven’t been to Marfa/Alpine yet, put it on your bucket list. A visit to the UT MacDonald Observatory for a night observation should absolutely be on it.

Oh, and Big Bend National Park is spectacular.

Night all, sweet dreams.

“Matt and the Dumb Bunnies” would be a great name for a Republican rock band

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sgcleve  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:37:44pm

re: #94 sgcleve

Therese Curatolo will be here!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:45:47pm

re: #93 austin_blue

It’s not embarrassing, it is reality.

It is far worse. He is insane.

Trump insane? The truly insane is the Republican posse, led today by Matt Gaetz, who tried to derail the closed door hearing because of their devotion to Trump. The truly insane are the tens of millions of Americans (remember , he still has 41% support) who idealize him and support him wholeheartedly, who think he is a real billionaire and brilliant negotiator, and who actually believe him. The truly insane are those who say on FB that they don’t care about Trump’s wealth or financial management only that he is not a career politician getting rich on government wages.

Hey Anymouse — if you see this, please return to us soon.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 23, 2019 • 10:52:02pm

re: #94 sgcleve

Welcome newcomer to the lizard world!

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uriel  Oct 23, 2019 • 11:13:01pm

re: #80 gocart mozart

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Masterful!

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Dread Pirate  Oct 23, 2019 • 11:46:39pm
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Dread Pirate  Oct 23, 2019 • 11:49:25pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:25:24am

re: #102 Dread Pirate

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As if we needed further reminders that this was an absolute clusterfuck resulting from yet another impulsive action on the part of a man-baby who cannot handle foreign policy further than “Can I interest you in a Trump Hotel?”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:44:26am

re: #104 Targetpractice

As if we needed further reminders that this was an absolute clusterfuck resulting from yet another impulsive action on the part of a man-baby who cannot handle foreign policy further than “Can I interest you in a Trump Hotel?”

Trump has always been impulsive - his business past is littered with the ruins of impulse purchases and half-baked ideas. This has long been known.

This is, of course, a recipe for disaster in a President.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:07:55am

Off to work - back later.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:14:42am

Just a quick heads-up to an L.A. Lizards:

Los Angeles County health officials are warning the public about another case of measles involving a person who visited Disneyland last week.

The person visited Disneyland on Oct. 16, between 9:15 a.m. to 8:35 p.m., and a Los Angeles Starbucks location at 3006 S. Sepulveda Blvd. between 7:50 a.m. to 10 a.m., according to a news release from the L.A. County Department of Public Health.

Anyone who was in those areas at that time may be at risk of developing measles, with symptoms appearing up to 21 days after the exposure.

abc7.com

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:15:11am

Now…off to work. Back later.

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Teukka  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:37:33am

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

Just a quick heads-up to an L.A. Lizards:

abc7.com

Wasn’t this posted previously, with the comment “I’m pretty sure some disease thriller begins like this”?

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Teukka  Oct 24, 2019 • 1:38:08am

re: #109 Teukka

Fuck. California license plate.

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Chrysicat  Oct 24, 2019 • 2:26:09am

re: #88 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 24, 2019 • 3:17:35am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 24, 2019 • 3:19:59am

Frank Robinson is still alive, btw.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 4:20:55am

re: #96 uriel

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Ben really needs to get over trans people. They’ve existed a long time. Much longer than people like him who sell hate and loathing for money. Sick of this hateful little ass.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 24, 2019 • 4:40:13am

re: #103 Dread Pirate

So Trump has helped 600 ISIS prisoners escape so that they can harm innocent people throughout the west once again. He has deliberately made us less safe just to please Erdogan and Putin. Democrats should be shouting this from the rafters.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 24, 2019 • 4:50:14am

Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead but he’s changing addresses anyway:

Franco exhumation: Spanish dictator’s remains being moved

The remains of Spanish dictator Francisco Franco are being moved from a vast mausoleum to a low-key grave, 44 years after his elaborate funeral.

Thursday’s long-awaited relocation fulfils a key pledge of the socialist government, which said Spain should not continue to glorify a fascist who ruled the country for nearly four decades.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 4:50:24am

re: #115 Patricia Kayden

So Trump has helped 600 ISIS prisoners escape so that they can harm innocent people throughout the west once again. He has deliberately made us less safe just to please Erdogan and Putin. Democrats should be shouting this from the rafters.

Trump is a threat to national security.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 24, 2019 • 4:57:06am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 24, 2019 • 5:01:34am

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Trump is a threat to national world security.

FTFY

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 5:04:33am

re: #119 Colère Tueur de Lapin

FTFY

Absolutely.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 5:05:31am

re: #118 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Does Boris lie as easily as Trump?

Stephen Barclay confirms there will be customs checks in Irish Sea despite PM’s denials

Seems that way. I have a FB friend, an Irishman who lives in England who can’t stand Boris who posts constantly about what Boris is up to. I’m telling you. A lot of what I read could be out of here.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 24, 2019 • 5:06:44am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 24, 2019 • 5:10:15am

re: #122 Patricia Kayden

Obama touched or initiated it, it must die. Fuck the country; revenge is key.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 24, 2019 • 5:11:20am

Happy No Quid Pro Quo Thursday!

I can’t wait to see what today’s tantrum entails!

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jeffreyw  Oct 24, 2019 • 5:28:48am

Good morning!

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fern01  Oct 24, 2019 • 5:37:15am

re: #95 DodgerFan1988

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GOP - “We support the vets!”

They are evil. This is when I wish hell existed.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 24, 2019 • 5:51:57am
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jaunte  Oct 24, 2019 • 5:56:27am

Trump’s defenders continue the downward spiral of excuses for the inexcusable.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 5:59:28am

re: #128 jaunte

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Trump’s defenders continue the downward spiral of excuses for the inexcusable.

“Well yeah, he conspired to break the law and tried to break the law, but he failed to break the law so he should be free to try again!”

FFS!!!

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:02:15am

“Yer Honor, sure my client is a criminal trying to do crimes, but he was too stupid, so cut im a break, yeah?”

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:06:21am
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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:10:02am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. GOPers are all ready to move past their SCIF stunt stupidity, and take it up to 12.

They’re still trying to defend their felony crimes as though this is legit. They broke the law and rules regarding SCIFs.

Rule 1: No electronic devices are permitted. Period.
Rule 2: See rule 1.
Rule 3: You think you’re excused because you want to engage in other felony crimes to disrupt ongoing federal investigations? Nope. See Rule 1.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:24:55am
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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:25:02am
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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:27:55am

re: #134 Belafon

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Charge of the Blight Brigade

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:34:26am

HA!

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:34:34am

Republicans Storm Impeachment Hearing After Bombshell Testimony: A Closer Look

Looks like a protest outside a pharmacy when it ran out of Viagra.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:38:33am

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Dave In Austin  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:40:45am

EMOJI > Select All

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:41:59am

re: #139 Dave In Austin

EMOJI > Select All

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Am I surprised?

Nope. It’s what I expect from a Republican.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:45:06am

Oh look I can do a work job!

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Dave In Austin  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:45:35am

I heard Mark Meadows or one of those ilks was down on his knees in the Oval Office.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:46:08am

re: #141 The Pie Overlord!

It’ll come in handy when these fuckers are sent to prison.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:46:33am

re: #139 Dave In Austin

EMOJI > Select All

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The swampiest swamp.

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Teukka  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:47:18am

re: #139 Dave In Austin

EMOJI > Select All

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:49:47am

re: #145 Teukka

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It’s corruption from top to bottom. It’s terrifying that they think they can tie policy to investigating their domestic opponents. If we don’t impeach and remove, this will be open season for more abuse of power down the road and yes Republicans it might include you too.

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Teukka  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:54:45am

So I stopped by on reddit…

Sauce: reddit.com

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:55:22am

re: #44 gocart mozart

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Except for the possibility of getting a lance shoved through your skull, but yeah just like it.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 24, 2019 • 6:58:41am

re: #148 Eventual Carrion

Except for the possibility of getting a lance shoved through your skull, but yeah just like it.

I think he was referring to their collective IQ.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:00:08am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:02:48am

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

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This is how it’s been feeling with Joe Walsh and Trump.

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:06:23am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:07:49am

re: #152 jaunte

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It’s not illegitimate because you say it is.

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:08:00am

re: #152 jaunte

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I look forward to how the NYTimes will shine this turd.

EDIT: Utterly and depressingly related:

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jaunte  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:08:52am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:10:57am

These guys. McConnell and Graham were both supporters and hell Graham was an impeachment manager on the impeachment of a President over lying about a blowjob but yeah it’s totes illegitimate to impeach a President over oh I dunno extorting a foreign country to investigate an opponent. Fuck Graham and McConnell. I hope they’re both destroyed with Trump and whatever shit that they have in their rotten closets comes out.

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:13:01am

re: #156 HappyWarrior

These guys. McConnell and Graham were both supporters and hell Graham was an impeachment manager on the impeachment of a President over lying about a blowjob but yeah it’s totes illegitimate to impeach a President over oh I dunno extorting a foreign country to investigate an opponent. Fuck Graham and McConnell. I hope they’re both destroyed with Trump and whatever shit that they have in their rotten closets comes out.

I hope so too, but McConnell seems to have mined all the flaws in our system to give him almost unlimited power, so any kind of consequence seems predicated on just completely voting him out. And despite having abysmal approval ratings, he just keeps getting voted back in because Kentucky can’t suffer a Dem to live.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:17:07am

re: #154 Citizen K

I look forward to how the NYTimes will shine this turd.

EDIT: Utterly and depressingly related:

Now, imagine if Schiff had gotten all of those guys dragged out in handcuffs.

Edited

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:17:53am

re: #157 Citizen K

I hope so too, but McConnell seems to have mined all the flaws in our system to give him almost unlimited power, so any kind of consequence seems predicated on just completely voting him out. And despite having abysmal approval ratings, he just keeps getting voted back in because Kentucky can’t suffer a Dem to live.

I think McGrath is running a great campaign there. And Kentucky looks likely to replace its Trump ass kiss of a governor with a Dem. Dems can win in Kentucky under the right situation and strategy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:18:26am

re: #158 Belafon

Now, imagine if Schiff had gotten all of those guys drug out in handcuffs.

Martyr cookies galore.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:19:49am

re: #152 jaunte

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The downside risk to this stunt is just staggering once open hearings begin and all the transcripts are released. The Republicans know they’re losing this fight and are desperately trying to rush the Democrats from a position of zero leverage. Meanwhile Trump is psychologically falling apart at an alarming pace.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:21:17am

re: #161 goddamnedfrank

The downside risk to this stunt is just staggering once open hearings begin and all the transcripts are released. The Republicans know they’re losing this fight and are desperately trying to rush the Democrats from a position of zero leverage. Meanwhile Trump is psychologically falling apart at an alarming pace.

We had him comparing the impeachment to lynching on Tuesday, yesterday morning it was “scum of the earth” and then the wall in Colorado. What happens today?

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:27:44am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:30:24am

re: #163 The Pie Overlord!

It looks confused and dismayed.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:30:48am

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

What’s weird is that these assholes have to know that their ridiculous hardline stances are self defeating. Their client has put them in such a horrid goddamned position that they’re stuck making the most logically and intellectually offensive arguments possible. Any halfway decent professional would just quit before standing in front of an appeals court panel and spewing this putrid fuckshit.

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1 - ‘halfway decent professional’
2 - delay, delay, anything to delay

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lizardofid  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:31:23am

re: #163 The Pie Overlord!

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“Let’s get ready to TUMBLLLLLLLLE!” !

Good morning everyone

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:31:52am

re: #36 EPR-radar

There’s no real need to arrest these turds on the spot. The crimes they have committed aren’t going away.

this here.

also, i wonder if that holds true for all the subpoena dodgers.
can they be called to account say in a year after the admin changes?

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:33:44am

re: #43 jaunte

The Shapiro Plaint: “What will become of the agitators-for-profit when every minority becomes boring and useless for rabble rousing?”

well if there’s no longer any need to rouse the rabble, i guess we get to just live our lives with the same liberty and justice as everyone else.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:35:47am

re: #44 gocart mozart

Cartoonish, sweaty, and homoerotic, then?

don’t forget the battle rhinos!!!

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plansbandc  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:36:31am

re: #168 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

Wouldn’t that be nice?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:36:50am

re: #167 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

this here.

also, i wonder if that holds true for all the subpoena dodgers.
can they be called to account say in a year after the admin changes?

Just waiting for a bunch of MAGATS to tell judges they can’t be subpoenaed because they love their President!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:37:07am

re: #167 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

this here.

also, i wonder if that holds true for all the subpoena dodgers.
can they be called to account say in a year after the admin changes?

Why take them away from their jobs selling vacation timeshares?

(Don’t think subpoenas work that way.)

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:38:15am

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

That’s what Maddow inferred from their argument, but no that was not explicitly asked or stated. I’d argue that stopping a crime spree in process is not the same thing as investigating and that she was being too clever by half.

just cause no one asked doesnt mean they wouldnt go there
after all what prez candidate would ever have posited “i can shoot someone on 5th avenue…”

further these are all absurd arguments based on absurd premises:

if the president had a gun and started shooting people on the street and a NYPD street cop tried to shoot the prez can the secret service shoot the cop to protect the president.

asinine

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:39:30am

re: #116 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead but he’s changing addresses anyway:

Franco exhumation: Spanish dictator’s remains being moved

Good to know that he is still dead.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:40:33am

re: #61 The Pie Overlord!

…while lying to a grand jury while president about sex before being president totally is impeachable

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:42:21am

re: #175 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

…while lying to a grand jury while president about sex before being president totally is impeachable

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No one in the GOP can say that anything Trump does is wrong

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:42:39am

re: #175 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

…while lying to a grand jury while president about sex before being president totally is impeachable

That’s the point that needs to be hit home. That they impeached over lying to a grand jury about adultery. Really fucking Republicans ask yourself how you would feel if Obama asked Ukraine or anyone to get dirt on Mitt Romney’s business dealings and tell me what you would want done to him. God this is so infuriating how we live in this post-factual universe where facts don’t matter.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:42:58am

re: #176 b.d. (It’s All True)

No one in the GOP can say that anything Trump does is wrong

Because they’re all a bunch of cowards who are afraid of the base they created.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:44:54am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Because they’re all a bunch of cowards who are afraid of the base they created.

Would you be allowed on Fox News if you did the right thing?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:46:40am
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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:48:43am

re: #112 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Video

love the short pants!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:51:49am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:52:45am

re: #182 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Tough on crime.

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gocart mozart  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:53:45am
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CarolJ  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:54:38am

re: #181 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

He gave it up to pursue education. That means a lot to me. He cared enough to do that even at the price of fame and public acclaim and money.

If he had continued, he would have been a peer with Aretha Franklin and John Coltrane (I think he would have gone the jazz route). He might have had a few gold records at least to his name. I wonder if he ever thought about going back to being pro at some point?

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:55:12am

re: #128 jaunte

impeachment for incompetence in the commission of a crime you morons, you.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:56:33am

The Presstitution never stops.

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danarchy  Oct 24, 2019 • 7:59:21am

Got to admit, Matt is the last person I would have expected to come to Hill’s defense.

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CarolJ  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:00:23am

When and where is incompetence in committing a crime is an excuse? I mean, should we give an unwitting incentive to get it right? “Officer, yes, I didn’t really get the loot in that kidnapping, and the victim escaped, so i should not be charged with a crime”. There are whole categories of attempted crime-murder, rape, other forms of mayhem. The idea is that you shouldn’t even try to commit them. We are not going to trust to luck that you are too incompetent, or the victim too lucky.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:00:30am

re: #164 Decatur Deb

It looks confused and dismayed.

Well, it got plucked out of its box house and put into a new home with no explanation of why it was relocated…

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sagehen  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:01:19am

re: #173 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

just cause no one asked doesnt mean they wouldnt go there
after all what prez candidate would ever have posited “i can shoot someone on 5th avenue…”

further these are all absurd arguments based on absurd premises:

if the president had a gun and started shooting people on the street and a NYPD street cop tried to shoot the prez can the secret service shoot the cop to protect the president.

asinine

There was a movie years ago, based on a novel (Clint Eastwood? Kevin Costner?) where the President was trying to rape a girl, she grabbed a letter opener and stabbed him to protect herself, and the Secret Service shoots her. The rest of the story is chasing the letter opener that would prove the stabbing was self-defense (angle of the wound? I don’t remember.)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:01:28am

re: #189 CarolJ

When and where is incompetence in committing a crime is an excuse? I mean, should we give an unwitting incentive to get it right? “Officer, yes, I didn’t really get the loot in that kidnapping, and the victim escaped, so i should not be charged with a crime”. There are whole categories of attempted crime-murder, rape, other forms of mayhem. The idea is that you shouldn’t even try to commit them. We are not going to trust to luck that you are too incompetent, or the victim too lucky.

It usually isn’t but because Trump gets treated with kid gloves, it’s okay somehow.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:01:33am

re: #153 HappyWarrior

It’s not illegitimate because you say it is.

even if it is illegitimate, there are no exceptions, right?
it must be protected and brought to full term.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:03:58am

re: #189 CarolJ

Sadly, I expect people in office to have some level of impropriety in their lives.

BUT I AT LEAST EXPECT THEM TO BE COMPETENT AT IT!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:04:07am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

It usually isn’t but because Trump gets treated with kid gloves, it’s okay somehow.

The press are not about to kill their golden goose.

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:06:07am

re: #128 jaunte

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Trump’s defenders continue the downward spiral of excuses for the inexcusable.

Because he was too inept to execute it should be reason enough to impeach him!

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:06:28am

re: #155 jaunte

it’s been pointed out time and again that there are steps in the process (and it is due process. theres even an opportunity to confront your accuser - later)

house investigates
house votes
senate holds trial etc

this is the investigation stage but actually only a preliminary part - to determine if the allegations ‘have a basis in reality’

LA Times makes a good point about ‘public’

The purpose of the secret sessions is at least twofold: to try to prevent witnesses in the first phase from coordinating their testimony, and to have a record of sworn testimony that can be used to prevent witnesses from changing their stories when the hearings go public

would the R’s really want to air this unvarnished, unscripted phase?
let the bombshells fly on live tv? really?
i dont think so.

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mmmirele  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:09:58am

Seriously, seriously considering driving over to LA to stand in front of asshat John MacArthur’s church with a sign on Sunday. The sign would simply say:

JOHN MACARTHUR
MARY MAGDALENE PREACHED
“JESUS IS RISEN!”

MacArthur told “teacher to women” Beth Moore to “go home” last weekend. MacArthur and his bunch don’t believe women should preach.

heavy.com

Beth Moore, for her own part, told followers to stop slagging Johnny Mac, and, frankly, she failed. I’m personally thinking she was told to back off because it would put her “teaching to women” and her lucrative Bible study business in jeopardy. And, to be blunt, I have little respect for a woman who benefits from the system while at the same time telling women to back off.

MacArthur’s teachings regarding women are nasty and dangerous. He has a university that is on probation right now with WASC in part because they didn’t report campus sexual assaults as they’re required to by law.

Again, seriously considering this, even though I really hate driving and the idea of driving 425 miles just so I could stand outside with a sign sounds crazy, BUT HEY, it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve done something like this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:10:19am

re: #197 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

The charge that the impeachment inquiry is being run in a non-transparent manner would have more weight if the people making that charge also criticized the WH for not handing over documents, refusing to allow witnesses to testify, and, basically, defying congressional oversight

They have a talking point that they have to play up big. Along with “witch hunt” and “Deep State coup”

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:10:49am

re: #197 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

The GOP would pitch a fit if this was all broadcast, claiming that these witnesses were undermining national security, releasing classified info, etc.

They’re so transparent in every one of these claims, that the media needs to run a chyron indicating as much.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:11:25am

re: #176 b.d. (It’s All True)

No one in the GOP can say that anything Trump does is wrong

no one in the GOP seems to have any sort of spine

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:13:00am

“Genocide of Kurds good for America.”

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mmmirele  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:14:18am

Oh, and just to give you a different idea about how awful John MacArthur is, here’s the former leader of the Assemblies of God. The AoG is a Pentecostal group and part of the larger grouping known as “charismatics.” MacArthur has written and spoken against them. Not saying *they’re* right either, but this tweet is so telling.

*blink* What an enormous waste of money, just so the dude could step on “the charismatics” every time he went behind his desk.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:14:48am

re: #202 DodgerFan1988

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“Genocide of Kurds good for America.”

Fucking Cronyn.

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gocart mozart  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:14:51am

re: #112 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This kid was born 3 years after Elvis but started playing rock & roll in the mid 40s. Kid played rock & roll (Caledonia) for Harry Truman at the White House

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:16:43am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

That’s the point that needs to be hit home. That they impeached over lying to a grand jury about adultery. Really fucking Republicans ask yourself how you would feel if Obama asked Ukraine or anyone to get dirt on Mitt Romney’s business dealings and tell me what you would want done to him. God this is so infuriating how we live in this post-factual universe where facts don’t matter.

it is infuriating

what helps me to not turn the desk over every day is remembering that, for now, power, and not fair play, explains things.

also that “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice”

oh, and that control is an illusion ;-)

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sagehen  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:19:56am

OT: has anyone watched Prodigal Son or Almost Family?

Comment please; is either of them worth my time?

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:20:09am
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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:21:08am

re: #184 gocart mozart

well, if congress ever tries to “substitute its judgement for the electorate’s”, then you’ll have a point.

right now there is an impeachment investigation going on so take your “no soap, radio” elsewhere.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:21:35am

re: #208 Belafon

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Ivanka please leave Kansas alone.

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sagehen  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:22:34am

re: #206 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

also that “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice”

oh, and that control is an illusion ;-)

“Indeed I tremble for my country when reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever: that considering numbers, nature and natural means only, a revolution of the wheel of fortune, an exchange of situation, is among possible events: that it may become probable by supernatural interference!”

—Thomas Jefferson

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:24:12am

re: #191 sagehen

There was a movie years ago, based on a novel (Clint Eastwood? Kevin Costner?) where the President was trying to rape a girl, she grabbed a letter opener and stabbed him to protect herself, and the Secret Service shoots her. The rest of the story is chasing the letter opener that would prove the stabbing was self-defense (angle of the wound? I don’t remember.)

eastwood “Absolute Power”

gene hackman is the prez

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:27:24am

re: #200 lawhawk

The GOP would pitch a fit if this was all broadcast, claiming that these witnesses were undermining national security, releasing classified info, etc.

They’re so transparent in every one of these claims, that the media needs to run a chyron indicating as much.

well, there will be public hearings soon enough, and then they’ll be zugzwanged on this little gambit

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:29:58am

re: #212 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

eastwood “Absolute Power”

gene hackman is the prez

Yes.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:39:05am

I do not like Mark Meadows at all.

But his eulogy for Elijah Cummings was perfect.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:42:26am

re: #215 Dave In Austin

I do not like Mark Meadows at all.

But his eulogy for Elijah Cummings was perfect.

I do wonder why he didn’t speak up for him when Trump trashed him.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:43:44am

Why I’m willing to pay for health coverage as a collective right rather than an individual one:

The Food and Drug Administration has approved a triple combination therapy manufactured by Vertex that would treat 90% of patients with cystic fibrosis.

The big picture: The approval of Trikafta came in record time at five months and will be priced at $311,503 annually, or $23,896 per 28-day pack

axios.com

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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:44:28am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

I think McGrath is running a great campaign there. And Kentucky looks likely to replace its Trump ass kiss of a governor with a Dem. Dems can win in Kentucky under the right situation and strategy.

The eco-conscious corporations backing America’s most insidious climate villain

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:46:17am

re: #217 Belafon

Meanwhile, the GOP effort to strike down the ACA in the courts means that those with a preexisting condition would be hit with massive premium increases if the GOP is successful. The ACA prohibits premium hikes for those with preexisting conditions, and CF is a preexisting condition.

Without that protection, those with CF would lack insurance, and would die so much sooner, while saddled with medically induced bankruptcies from those high costs.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:46:30am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

I can’t explain those things. I heard he was crying on his knees on the Oval Office as well. But I also know there was a relationship there outside the halls. An important one to those 2 men.
And just now, Meadows Eulogy was perfect.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:47:29am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:48:08am

re: #220 Dave In Austin

I can’t explain those things. I heard he was crying on his knees on the Oval Office as well. But I also know there was a relationship there outside the halls. An important one to those 2 men.
And just now, Meadows Eulogy was perfect.

True, true. I don’t deny the friendship was genuine. I just wish he would have said something when Trump trashed Cummings and his district.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 8:49:02am

I’m really gonna miss Cummings. He was what an elected leader should be.

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gocart mozart  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:12:52am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:14:09am

re: #128 jaunte

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Trump’s defenders continue the downward spiral of excuses for the inexcusable.

The WSJ editorial page has always been worthless and dishonest; no one with any integrity should take its rantings seriously.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:15:02am

re: #224 gocart mozart

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His home precinct rejected him overwhelmingly but sure a bunch of people from the middle of the country know what’s really in his heart.//

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:18:35am

I’m not smack talking the middle of the country but that NYC overwhelmingly rejected Trump should have been a sign.

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Jay C  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:21:18am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

I’m not smack talking the middle of the country but that NYC overwhelmingly rejected Trump should have been a sign.

It was.
A sign that New Yorkers were/are hopelessly “un-American” and alien to the “real” America….

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plansbandc  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:22:27am

re: #227 HappyWarrior

The fact that NYC hates him just gives him more status with his base. It’s an overwhelming positive for them.

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plansbandc  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:22:42am

LOL!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:23:02am

re: #228 Jay C

It was.
A sign that New Yorkers were/are hopelessly “un-American” and alien to the “real” America….

Yet they’re fine with using 9/11 to justify their bigotry. I’m not a New Yorker. Frequent visitor but New York is a much better model for what the nation ought to be than “real America.”

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:23:17am

So, this is a completely ignorant take courtesy of the NY Post op ed. I feel dumber just thinking about this, but it needs to be fisked anyways Eco madness is behind the 737 MAX debacle, but no one is talking about it.

There’s a reason no one is talking about it.

It’s sheer dumbfuckery.

Boeing has sought to keep the same airframe in play since there’s huge costs in building new plane from scratch. They thought they could get FAA and authorities to sign off on stretched version of the 737, which has new more efficient engines that cost less to operate than the prior generation of 737.

It’s about operational cost savings, not the environment. Boeing can claim that the plane reduces emissions, because that’s absolutely true. The engines burn less, pollute less, and deliver more power and can haul more people than the prior engine/plane combination.

But the crash happened because Boeing hid that key mechanisms changed and that the computers would take over and fight the pilot over key decisions under certain circumstances, and drive the plane into the ground.

There is nothing about the environment involved here except the toxic culture at Boeing that skirted the rules, and the lax oversight at the FAA as a result of Reagan (and forward) handing over significant oversight to the very manufacturers who build the planes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:23:40am

re: #229 plansbandc

The fact that NYC hates him just gives him more status with his base. It’s an overwhelming positive for them.

Absolutely. Btw I finished that podcast on Reagan. Very much got a Behind the Bastards vibe from Patton and the guys. And holy shit there was a lot I did not know about Reagan as a person.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:27:46am

re: #229 plansbandc

The fact that NYC hates him just gives him more status with his base. It’s an overwhelming positive for them.

it may be a positive to be hated by the east coast elites — if you’re not one

they dont seem to realize that he is in fact an east coast elite - exactly the kind of person who hates him

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Dave In Austin  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:27:50am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

I don’t think he’s capable. To much fear.

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gocart mozart  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:28:38am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:29:45am

re: #234 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

it may be a positive to be hated by the east coast elites — if you’re not one

they dont seem to realize that he is in fact an east coast elite - exactly the kind of person who hates him

He’s exactly the kind of person they hate. Someone who is devoid of morality, family values, but I guess when they discovered that they hate the same people, all was gravy.

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plansbandc  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:31:59am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

Yeah, it’s the comedians’ version of “Behind the Bastards”. Patton’s not usually on it, but he was there to celebrate the 400th episode.

I like how Patton is friends with a bunch of the podcasters I listen to. He’s really good friends with the “My Favorite Murder” ladies, for example.

My podcasters do a lot of cross pollinating in general. I think it’s because pretty much every comedian knows every other comedian. It’s fun, anyway.

The Dollop guys also do a web series where they watch horribly racist/sexist/violent whatever old timey cartoons. It’s pretty damn funny.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:32:00am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

He’s exactly the kind of person they hate. Someone who is devoid of morality, family values, but I guess when they discovered that they hate the same people, all was gravy.

He’s the type of person they’re suppsed to hate. But his racism is one of the family values they enjoy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:34:09am

re: #238 plansbandc

Yeah, it’s the comedians’ version of “Behind the Bastards”. Patton’s not usually on it, but he was there to celebrate the 400th episode.

I like how Patton is friends with a bunch of the podcasters I listen to. He’s really good friends with the “My Favorite Murder” ladies, for example.

My podcasters do a lot of cross pollinating in general. I think it’s because pretty much every comedian knows every other comedian. It’s fun, anyway.

The Dollop guys also do a web series where they watch horribly racist/sexist/violent whatever old timey cartoons. It’s pretty damn funny.

Patton and his brother went to high school with two of my older cousins. They had great things to say about both of them as people. I’ll definitely look at some of their other eps. I really enjoy this format. It’s both really informative and I found myself laughing hard at some of the stuff that was said in the Reagan episode and cringing too since a lot of people consider Reagan a top 5 President of all time. I’m talking about the homophobic crap and how Reagan was totally out of it.

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gocart mozart  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:35:02am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:35:41am

re: #239 Belafon

He’s the type of person they’re suppsed to hate. But his racism is one of the family values they enjoy.

Yep and that’s all that really matters.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:36:36am

Florida man yo’:

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:36:37am

re: #173 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

just cause no one asked doesnt mean they wouldnt go there
after all what prez candidate would ever have posited “i can shoot someone on 5th avenue…”

further these are all absurd arguments based on absurd premises:

if the president had a gun and started shooting people on the street and a NYPD street cop tried to shoot the prez can the secret service shoot the cop to protect the president.

asinine

I don’t understand why people here are giving Rachel a hard time for her comments yesterday; after all, this is the reported exchange about shooting someone on Fifth Avenue:

Judge: “Local authorities couldn’t investigate? They couldn’t do anything about it?” “Nothing could be done? That is your position?”

Trump attorney: “That is correct,”

The attorney did add that such immunity applied only while Trump is in office.

So I don’t see where she went wrong.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:37:31am

re: #241 gocart mozart

Trump couldn’t be bothered to attend.

Priorities.

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plansbandc  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:39:31am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Ignoring AIDS was absolutely evil. The fact that so many people revere him makes me sick.

I didn’t know just how far gone mentally he was during his second term and that it was known and hidden by a ton of people.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:40:41am

re: #246 plansbandc

Ignoring AIDS was absolutely evil. The fact that so many people revere him makes me sick.

I didn’t know just how far gone mentally he was during his second term and that it was known and hidden by a ton of people.

It’s why I’m not happy when people suggest bringing up Bernie and Biden’s age is ageism. But yes the record on AIDS was horrid.

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:41:10am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Patton and his brother went to high school with two of my older cousins. They had great things to say about both of them as people. I’ll definitely look at some of their other eps. I really enjoy this format. It’s both really informative and I found myself laughing hard at some of the stuff that was said in the Reagan episode and cringing too since a lot of people consider Reagan a top 5 President of all time. I’m talking about the homophobic crap and how Reagan was totally out of it.

When Republicans talk about hero worship, ask them about the yearly Reagan celebrations.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:41:58am

re: #245 lawhawk

Trump couldn’t be bothered to attend.

Priorities.

Maybe Trump’s staff felt that his presence would be a distraction?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:42:53am

re: #248 Belafon

When Republicans talk about hero worship, ask them about the yearly Reagan celebrations.

Seriously. They accuse us of worshipping Obama. Reagan, a very very flawed guy not just as a President but a person is revered.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:46:16am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:48:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:54:37am

JFC

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:55:52am

re: #249 Hecuba’s daughter

Maybe Trump’s staff felt that his presence would be a distraction?

with this president yeah

but imagine in general thinking a president would be a distraction paying his respects to a congressman

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:55:54am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:56:12am

re: #254 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

with this president yeah

but imagine in general thinking a president would be a distraction paying his respects to a congressman

Only this President.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:56:23am

Current mood - because we need more love in the world (and to combat the onslaught of Trumpworld bad crazy)…

Seal - Future love paradise (Live in Paris 2005)

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:57:48am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

so there is a reconstituted ISIS?

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 9:59:07am

re: #256 HappyWarrior

Only this President.

yeah

and im sure my parents felt that way about me - being a disruption or distraction at a funeral

when i was 6

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:00:18am

re: #258 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

You noticed that too….

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Belafon  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:01:00am

re: #258 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

so there is a reconstituted ISIS?

“I’m going to claim credit for solving a problem I created in the worst way possible.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:01:38am

re: #254 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

with this president yeah

but imagine in general thinking a president would be a distraction paying his respects to a congressman

Can he really sit quietly and respectfully when one of his antagonists is being praised?

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:03:41am
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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:04:44am

re: #262 Hecuba’s daughter

Can he really sit quietly and respectfully when one of his antagonists is being praised?

sure, just give him a phone to play with

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:10:42am

re: #263 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

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They got so lucky with a fool like Trump.

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plansbandc  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:11:02am

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gocart mozart  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:12:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:15:27am

O_o

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:16:27am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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The only scam is Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:17:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:17:48am
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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:18:01am

additional criminal conspiracy charges? and wow, this is where we are: having to say “additional.”

im guessing likely Sondland and likely he needed some ‘prepping’ using the info that became public.

bought himself an ambassadorship without understanding how any of it works - in front and behind the scenes. an amateur.

his lawyer pushed back this AM ‘disputing’ some of taylor’s testimony. (that was the headline)

the actual statement was sondland does not recall a, b, or c. nothing about disputing.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:23:48am

re: #267 gocart mozart

they didnt merely ‘scatter out of a room’

you swarmed
into a locked SCIF
unannounced
SURPRISING half the people in the room
who had no idea what was happening
because they assumed the room was SECURE

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:23:52am

re: #272 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

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additional criminal conspiracy charges? and wow, this is where we are: having to say “additional.”

im guessing likely Sondland and likely he needed some ‘prepping’ using the info that became public.

bought himself an ambassadorship without understanding how any of it works - in front and behind the scenes. an amateur.

his lawyer pushed back this AM ‘disputing’ some of taylor’s testimony. (that was the headline)

the actual statement was sondland does not recall a, b, or c. nothing about disputing.

Unfortunately, buying ambassadorships is standard practice in both Democratic and Republican administrations. But, before Trump, most of these ill-equipped amateurs deferred to the advice of the seasoned professionals at the embassy and did not engage in nefarious backdoor transactions. But as Rick Wilson says, ETTD.

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Citizen K  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:27:06am

Man, there’s simply nothing more exhausting and rage inducing than the Calvinist “wealth = personal worth” mindset. Clearly, if you’re working your ass off and aren’t rich, you’re just a bad person and deserve your squalor and misery. Good people succeed always and are rich, therefore if you’re poor you’re bad and worth only contempt. And you should never have any free time, luxury, or breathing room ever, because wanting that proves you’re just too lazy to be good like all those holy rich people.

I want to say that this is worth torches and pitchforks but it’s clear a significant amount of people in this country would take up said torches and pitchforks and march on the peasantry instead of the aristocracy.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:29:16am

re: #274 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately, buying ambassadorships is standard practice in both Democratic and Republican administrations. But, before Trump, most of these ill-equipped amateurs deferred to the advice of the seasoned professionals at the embassy and did not engage in nefarious backdoor transactions. But as Rick Wilson says, ETTD.

what you wrote is what i meant

its how they do everything in this admin. with amateurs who dont know how anything works or is even supposed to work.

it;s really why everything this admin touches, dies. they are absolutely clueless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:30:09am

re: #275 Citizen K

There is nothing wrong with attending evening classes, expanding one’s qualifications, etc., especially when you are young, but one should not be punished with poverty for not doing it.

People also have families to raise on those evenings…

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:30:19am

re: #275 Citizen K

Because the rich and powerful have weaponized information and the conversation to the point that the poor think that those poorer than they are a threat to their wellbeing, when the rich continue to consolidate power and wealth in their hands while the burdens shift to everyone but the rich.

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DesertDenizen  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:30:29am

re: #275 Citizen K

That’s because they’re too proud or stupid to admit they’re part of the peasantry. Their self image is based on being able to look down on someone. This provides an additional avenue beyond their racism and sexism. That it is still socially acceptable hate is a bonus.

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mmmirele  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:32:37am

re: #273 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

they didnt merely ‘scatter out of a room’

you swarmed
into a locked SCIF
unannounced
SURPRISING half the people in the room
who had no idea what was happening
because they assumed the room was SECURE

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I have two friends whose husbands work in SCIFs in DC. One of them said yesterday that if her husband had taken his phone into the office, this is what would have happened: 1) his phone would have been taken away. 2) His phone would have been pulled apart into pieces and he might get the pieces back in six weeks. 3) He would probably get fired. They are SERIOUS about No Electronic Devices in a SCIF.

I hate that my congressman is a fucking lawbreaker.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:33:19am

re: #275 Citizen K

alex sez we should work two jobs, the 2nd one at night

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Sir John Barron  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:33:39am

re: #248 Belafon

When Republicans talk about hero worship, ask them about the yearly Reagan celebrations.

No need to go back that far—look at the daily DJT celebrations.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:34:59am

re: #280 mmmirele

I have two friends whose husbands work in SCIFs in DC. One of them said yesterday that if her husband had taken his phone into the office, this is what would have happened: 1) his phone would have been taken away. 2) His phone would have been pulled apart into pieces and he might get the pieces back in six weeks. 3) He would probably get fired. They are SERIOUS about No Electronic Devices in a SCIF.

I hate that my congressman is a fucking lawbreaker.

There are criminal charges involved too…. so yeah, these fuckers need to be held accountable, and their phones seized, especially those two who may have tweeted from inside.

Every last one of their electronic devices need to be accounted for and scanned for malware that could enable our rivals and enemies access to our most important classified info and methods.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:35:16am

re: #281 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

alex sez we should work two jobs, the 2nd one at night

again, if you are young and single, that is a great thing to do and I can only recommend that as a beneficial course of action

But not all of us fit that bill

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dirkdigglerjr  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:35:16am

re: #267 gocart mozart

This guy has a near-death experience. Instead of using his recovery time to reflect on his career and how he might change to become a positive influence for everyone, he emerges as a bigger a-hole than before.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:35:49am

re: #275 Citizen K

further, if we all stop watching netflix we’d put em out of business.

no compassion for the netflix employees?
or do they have to follow this model too?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:36:07am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:37:12am
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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:37:18am

re: #280 mmmirele

I have two friends whose husbands work in SCIFs in DC. One of them said yesterday that if her husband had taken his phone into the office, this is what would have happened: 1) his phone would have been taken away. 2) His phone would have been pulled apart into pieces and he might get the pieces back in six weeks. 3) He would probably get fired. They are SERIOUS about No Electronic Devices in a SCIF.

I hate that my congressman is a fucking lawbreaker.

those folks are not Republicans // (.5)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:38:42am

re: #281 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

alex sez we should work two jobs, the 2nd one at night

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Fuck these guys and their cult of work.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:39:32am

re: #283 lawhawk

There are criminal charges involved too…. so yeah, these fuckers need to be held accountable, and their phones seized, especially those two who may have tweeted from inside.

Every last one of their electronic devices need to be accounted for and scanned for malware that could enable our rivals and enemies access to our most important classified info and methods.

the president’s lawyer’s are making the case that he cant be investigated or prosecuted while in office.

i dont think they’ve included sitting congressmen in their arguments.

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Targetpractice  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:41:14am

re: #232 lawhawk

So, this is a completely ignorant take courtesy of the NY Post op ed. I feel dumber just thinking about this, but it needs to be fisked anyways Eco madness is behind the 737 MAX debacle, but no one is talking about it.

There’s a reason no one is talking about it.

It’s sheer dumbfuckery.

Boeing has sought to keep the same airframe in play since there’s huge costs in building new plane from scratch. They thought they could get FAA and authorities to sign off on stretched version of the 737, which has new more efficient engines that cost less to operate than the prior generation of 737.

It’s about operational cost savings, not the environment. Boeing can claim that the plane reduces emissions, because that’s absolutely true. The engines burn less, pollute less, and deliver more power and can haul more people than the prior engine/plane combination.

But the crash happened because Boeing hid that key mechanisms changed and that the computers would take over and fight the pilot over key decisions under certain circumstances, and drive the plane into the ground.

There is nothing about the environment involved here except the toxic culture at Boeing that skirted the rules, and the lax oversight at the FAA as a result of Reagan (and forward) handing over significant oversight to the very manufacturers who build the planes.

My understanding from reading around is that it’s actually worse than that. The new engines on the 737 Max are more powerful and more efficient, but they’re also larger and require pylons that have been shortened and pushed further forward of the wing than on a stock 737. This had the result of pushing the aircraft’s aerodynamic center forward, which leaves it much more likely to stall in event too much power is applied. Boeing’s solution? Put in a “middle man” computer that senses the aircraft is in a stall and bypasses pilot input to force the nose down.

With the new design finished, they then exploited loopholes in FAA regs that allow manufacturers to self-certify to say that their engineers had signed off on the mods so that they could push the plane into production as an “upgrade” to an existing model rather than a whole new aircraft that needed proper testing and certification. And then sold them to airlines as “upgrades” that pilots experienced with existing 737 models could type-certify on with a few hours in a simulator. Pilots are alleging that Boeing gave them no instruction on the new anti-stall system and buried all mention of it in the manuals, while Boeing (in full CYA mode) is claiming the pilots were trained in how to deactivate the system in an emergency. Note the keywords “in an emergency,” which generally in industry speak means “at normal flight altitudes, in normal conditions, with no other problems going on at the time.” No instruction was given on what to do when you’re climbing after take-off and the system decides (due to faulty data) that you’re actually in a stall and bypasses all controls so it can augur the nose into the ground.

Surprise, surprise, relying upon companies to police themselves doesn’t work.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:43:23am

re: #291 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

the president’s lawyer’s are making the case that he cant be investigated or prosecuted while in office.

i dont think they’ve included sitting congressmen in their arguments.

The infamous 1973 DOJ rules apply only to the office of the President and not to any other government official.

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lawhawk  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:47:58am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:48:33am

re: #292 Targetpractice

My understanding from reading around is that it’s actually worse than that. The new engines on the 737 Max are more powerful and more efficient, but they’re also larger and require pylons that have been shortened and pushed further forward of the wing than on a stock 737. This had the result of pushing the aircraft’s aerodynamic center forward, which leaves it much more likely to stall in event too much power is applied. Boeing’s solution? Put in a “middle man” computer that senses the aircraft is in a stall and bypasses pilot input to force the nose down.

With the new design finished, they then exploited loopholes in FAA regs that allow manufacturers to self-certify to say that their engineers had signed off on the mods so that they could push the plane into production as an “upgrade” to an existing model rather than a whole new aircraft that needed proper testing and certification. And then sold them to airlines as “upgrades” that pilots experienced with existing 737 models could type-certify on with a few hours in a simulator. Pilots are alleging that Boeing gave them no instruction on the new anti-stall system and buried all mention of it in the manuals, while Boeing (in full CYA mode) is claiming the pilots were trained in how to deactivate the system in an emergency. Note the keywords “in an emergency,” which generally in industry speak means “at normal flight altitudes, in normal conditions, with no other problems going on at the time.” No instruction was given on what to do when you’re climbing after take-off and the system decides (due to faulty data) that you’re actually in a stall and bypasses all controls so it can augur the nose into the ground.

Surprise, surprise, relying upon companies to police themselves doesn’t work.

It’s standard GOP philosophy that (a) businesses can police themselves without government interference and (b) businesses don’t need any stinking regulations that they need to follow. The Ayn Rand view of the economy to rule us all!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:50:04am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is nothing wrong with attending evening classes, expanding one’s qualifications, etc., especially when you are young, but one should not be punished with poverty for not doing it.

People also have families to raise on those evenings…

Not too mention working non-stop WITHOUT breaks will destroy your productivity and make you a tired, aggravated, miserable person.

That’s why it’s called work-life BALANCE.

I’ve been working on creating a board game in my spare time. Some nights what I do, is I come home from work, eat dinner, spend a few hours working on the game and then watch TV or play video games for awhile before I go to bed.

Some nights I put some extra time in on the game. Some nights none at all.

There is more to life than fucking working yourself to death. This is so unique to American culture. Other countries have rest periods mandated BY LAW. Here, there are some states where an employer doesn’t even have to give you ANY BREAKS AT ALL if they don’t want to.

We’re human being, not fucking slaves. We deserve down time.

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DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:50:10am

i’ve been at my desk all day - havent looked out the window

i just do and there’s a house missing

across and 2 doors down - not even 400 feet down the road

they razed it and half has already been carted away

these news cycles sure are mesmerizing

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CarolJ  Oct 24, 2019 • 10:50:45am

re: #246 plansbandc

It was less devastating because it was a second term. Once the re-election happened, things probably started to go on some autopilot waiting for the next guy. He seems less arrogant and divisive than Trump, too. And we were fortunate to have good people who could keep things going with no desire to overturn and wreck everything.

And now for my beg:
gofundme.com

While I don’t regret the retirement at all-more time to write, and I feel much better, the buyout that helped enable me to retire has created as you can see, a little problem with Social Security. I’m going to be reimbursed, but whatever happens is going to take about a month, and I can do is wait. I know I’m asking a lot, but thanks to your generosity, I’ve been able to pay my condo fee and a student loan as well. Plus I hope to do some dental work as well.

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CarolJ  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:00:08am

re: #275 Citizen K

It explains the weird guilt I’m feeling about being retired. After years of precariousness, I finally have some stability. But I’m not hustling, and don’t need to anymore. No more going to unemployment looking for jobs that paid less than my seasonal job anymore. No looking for even temporary jobs anymore. I can sit at home now, write and rest. Instead of going through the off-and on tango, It’s every month for the rest of my life now.
A non-Calvinist self could say, I earned it, and probably paid more in taxes (sales and otherwise), than I will ever draw out.

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EPR-radar  Oct 24, 2019 • 11:21:14am

re: #294 lawhawk

I’ve seen elsewhere that Buttigieg pretended the tea party wasn’t just Republicans in 2010, but I haven’t been able to get a good source. If that’s true, then I’m done with him.

By 2010, it was completely clear what the tea party was — racist Republicans letting their freak flags fly.

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retired cynic  Oct 24, 2019 • 12:07:33pm

re: #294 lawhawk

Jeet Heer

@HeerJeet
Pete Buttigieg’s model supreme court justice is a guy who was appointed by Reagan, consistently worked to gut workers’ rights & voting rights, and resigned to allow Donald Trump to appoint Kavanaugh.

That takes care of Buttigieg for me! Out!


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