The Bob Cesca Podcast: You Can’t Let This Happen to Me!

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Domnick Cunningham & Whalen:

You Can’t Let This Happen To Me! — NSFW! Jody Hamilton and TRex David Ferguson are here; Election Night reactions; Trump makes Kentucky all about him; The woman who flipped off Trump’s motorcade won her campaign; Tiny Trump’s obsessed with the whistleblower; Jeff Sessions is running again; Mark Halperin’s book bombs; Fox News and author screws up criticism of Obama White House; Trump wanted Barr to hold a presser about the phone call; Intelligence officials fight back; Trump is surrounded by Austin Powers henchmen; Public impeachment hearings next week; With music by Option Y and Barker & Broski; and more!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:19:10pm

An, a fresh new thread. I will open it with a kitten picture. The feral kittens are becoming more social. Well, I managed to hold and scritch one. And got purrs.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:19:47pm

re: #1 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Awwwww!!! So sweet.

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:20:39pm

One of the really important things to come out of the Kentucky election is that the Democrats will have a very powerful seat at the table for redistricting in 2021. A governor’s veto is going to be very useful in forcing the legislature to draw fair districts (at least in theory).

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:22:36pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:25:19pm

CL’d on the last thread - but if the decisions about how to structure the Senate’s impeachment trial procedures are made by a simple majority, then we’re all at the gentle mercies of Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins to decide the fate of our Union and democracy.

I’m glad someone with the spine and principle of Sen. Collins could be the deciding…

…never mind, we’re fucked, aren’t we?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:25:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:26:10pm

take fucking seat kimberly coyote.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:27:47pm

The Pastor at my church is out of town this week and asked me to preach at our service tonight. I’ve never delivered a sermon before so I’m a little nervous, but it’s an opportunity I’ve wanted for awhile so I’m hoping for the best!

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:30:03pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

The Pastor at my church is out of town this week and asked me to preach at our service tonight. I’ve never delivered a sermon before so I’m a little nervous, but it’s an opportunity I’ve wanted for awhile so I’m hoping for the best!

Give ‘em Hell!!

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:30:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:32:24pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

The Pastor at my church is out of town this week and asked me to preach at our service tonight. I’ve never delivered a sermon before so I’m a little nervous, but it’s an opportunity I’ve wanted for awhile so I’m hoping for the best!

I’m an atheist but was asked to give the invocation at the graduation for my class of fellows at University of Kentucky.
I took a page from a Native American prayer and then went from there about family.
It was a huge hit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:32:34pm

re: #4 Patricia Kayden

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The Apprentice: ADX Florence.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:32:46pm

re: #9 Decatur Deb

Give ‘em Hell!!

Lol. I was actually reminded of a joke I saw awhile back:

“A pastor was nervous about speaking in front of his congregation
so he put a glass of vodka next to his water glass
the next day he had a note on his desk saying:

don’t chug the vodka

there are 12 disciples not ten

there are ten commandments not 12

we do not refer to the trinity as daddy junior and the spook

david slew goliath, he did not kick the shit out of him

jacob wagered his donkey, he did not bet his ass

david was knocked off his donkey with a rock, not stoned off his ass

the proper blessing before a meal is not rub a dub dub thank you for this grub yeah god

we do not refer to the virgin mary as mary with the cherry

jesus broke the bread at the last supper, he did not say eat me

we do not refer to jesus and the apostles as JC and the boys”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:34:49pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

I call them JC and his Sonshine Band….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:35:11pm

re: #13 Eclectic Cyborg

Lol. I was actually reminded of a joke I saw awhile back:

“A pastor was nervous about speaking in front of his congregation
so he put a glass of vodka next to his water glass
the next day he had a note on his desk saying:

don’t chug the vodka

there are 12 disciples not ten

there are ten commandments not 12

we do not refer to the trinity as daddy junior and the spook

david slew goliath, he did not kick the shit out of him

jacob wagered his donkey, he did not bet his ass

david was knocked off his donkey with a rock, not stoned off his ass

the proper blessing before a meal is not rub a dub dub thank you for this grub yeah god

we do not refer to the virgin mary as mary with the cherry

jesus broke the bread at the last supper, he did not say eat me

we do not refer to jesus and the apostles as JC and the boys”

And Jesus is just Jesus not J Naz.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:38:54pm

Michael Bloomberg is expected to file for the Alabama Dem primary tomorrow. Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III is still an elf.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:40:12pm

re: #16 Decatur Deb

Michael Bloomberg is expected to file for the Alabama Dem primary tomorrow. Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III is still an elf.

*snerk*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:42:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:44:15pm
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Jay C  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:45:08pm

re: #16 Decatur Deb

Michael Bloomberg is expected to file for the Alabama Dem primary tomorrow. Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III is still an elf.

Former NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg?
Why Alabama?
Not that he couldn’t buy a nice residence there (probably 8 or 10 counties), but isn’t the carpetbagging a little TOO obvious?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:46:25pm

re: #20 Jay C

Former NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg.
Why Alabama?
Not that he couldn’t buy a nice residence there (probably 8 or 10 counties), but isn’t the carpetbagging a little TOO obvious?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:47:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:48:32pm
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William Lewis  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:48:46pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

The Pastor at my church is out of town this week and asked me to preach at our service tonight. I’ve never delivered a sermon before so I’m a little nervous, but it’s an opportunity I’ve wanted for awhile so I’m hoping for the best!

I have always enjoyed those opportunities. May you enjoy yours. May I ask what scripture you’ll be speaking on?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:48:59pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Says the guy who ran on repealing his own health care plan.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:49:22pm

re: #20 Jay C

Former NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg?
Why Alabama?

Oh, why the hell not?

(It”s the presidential primary, thus the start of another kamikazi run.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:50:47pm

re: #24 William Lewis

I have always enjoyed those opportunities. May you enjoy yours. May I ask what scripture you’ll be speaking on?

Several, actually but primarily John 9:1-6

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William Lewis  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:53:45pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

Several, actually but primarily John 9:1-6

Ah. I love that lesson. My thoughts on it ended this way:

The dead can take care of the dead. We can not live for the next world
- we can not abandon the pain and suffering of this world to a forlorn
hope of a better life in heaven. No, we must instead live as if the atheists
are right and that this world is all there ever will be.

We must live in the here and now, in the gladness and fullness of heart
that being open to God’s love brings. We must open ourselves to the love
that comes from all creation for God’s creation is the fullest expression
of the that love that exists NOW for each and every person in the world.

Never forget that Jesus healed the eyes of the man born blind right there
and then. He did not tell him how great seeing would be in heaven.

To do less than that in our own lives is the real sin.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:57:25pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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take fucking seat kimberly coyote.

She calls him Don Jr.

ewe

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2019 • 3:59:56pm

If the Flores consent decree has taught me anything it’s that getting the Court to hold onto a civil case after an agreement is reached is fucking gold.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:00:18pm

re: #28 William Lewis

Ah. I love that lesson. My thoughts on it ended this way:

Beautifully said!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:00:31pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

She calls him Don Jr.

ewe

Mommy fetish?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:03:32pm

meanwhile in North Carolina…

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:03:42pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:03:54pm

Did Donald Trump ever run a ponzi scam?

Why yes he did!

The Daily Show - The Trump Network: Donald Trump’s Failed Pyramid Scheme

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:11:58pm

re: #26 Decatur Deb

Former NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg?
Why Alabama?

Oh, why the hell not?

The filing deadline is early, like tomorrow.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:12:57pm

Look at this poor pitiful crybaby whose life is so awful, the most miserable existence & most suffering of any human being on the planet!

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:13:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:13:37pm

re: #34 jaunte

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JFC what a grift.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:14:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:14:41pm

re: #37 The Pie Overlord!

Look at this poor pitiful crybaby whose life is so awful, the most miserable existence & more suffering of any human being on the planet.

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Has a stupid childish name and a whine about the Clintons. He’s such a predictable baby.

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:15:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:15:40pm

oh…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:17:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:18:07pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The fuck.

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:19:07pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:20:51pm

It turns out my 5-yo niece did a thing. He mother is a promoter for local bands in Baltimore, knows Sharptooth, and now her daughter is singing the intro to their new single “Mean Brain”.

Hear Sharptooth’s new single - “Mean Brain”.

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:21:29pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

JFC what a grift.

If you see anyone with an autographed $50 Don Jr. book-like object, stay 500 yards away.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:24:09pm
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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:24:20pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another example of how he lifted the hold only after he was about to be caught. Which is basically what any 16 year old kid does… shit, that’s the garage door opening, quick pour the vodka down the sink… no run the water you dumbfuck, we don’t want the smell…

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:25:16pm

Trump should make this his official campaign song (assuming he doesn’t get a C&D from Warren Zevon)

Terri Clark - Poor, Poor Pitiful Me (Official Video)

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:25:27pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

that’s the kind of statement a party makes in public that makes a prosecutor say “oh, you don’t like the settlement? perhaps we should go to trial instead?”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:25:35pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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I’ve seen mobsters act more dignified.

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:26:59pm

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

Alternative, might I suggest:

Nobody likes me, everybody hates me. (with lyrics)

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:29:39pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:29:40pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:29:55pm

re: #54 KGxvi

Nice. A tie-in to the Sharptooth song I I linked above.

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:30:27pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:30:27pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

His head is remarkably sloped.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:30:44pm

re: #56 gocart mozart

The one on the left looks dead.

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plansbandc  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:31:52pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

Imagine what hot rotting garbage he must be for the hot rotting garbage party to say, “Yeah, you lost. deal with it.”

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:31:58pm

Atwater, Manafort, and Stone. It’s really important to keep front and center how badly these fucks fucked up American politics; with a nod to their wealthy shadow supporters.

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:32:27pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Great Moons of Meepzorp!

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:32:57pm

I think the only person Bloomberg hurts by entering the race is Biden. I don’t see any Warren or Harris supporters swinging to Bloomberg.

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:33:29pm
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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:34:36pm
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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:36:30pm

“…Finally, the settlement agreement imposes a regime of restrictions on any future service by Mr. Trump on a charity’s board of directors, including a total ban on any self-dealing. Any charity he joins as a director must have a majority of independent directors, must engage counsel with expertise in New York not-for-profit law, and must engage the services of an accounting firm to monitor and audit the organization’s grants and expenses. If Mr. Trump forms a new charity, such an organization must comply with these requirements, and also report to the Office of the Attorney General for five years. “
ag.ny.gov

Stronger restrictions than govern the Presidency.

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BeachDem  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:37:48pm

re: #32 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Mommy fetish?

Well, she refers to herself as “mamacita” so you be the judge…

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Dread Pirate  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:38:56pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:40:09pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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take fucking seat kimberly coyote.

Juniors character… Left his five kids for her.

Pffffft.

Thanks for the recipe downstairs. I’m going to make it this weekend.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:45:57pm
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Dread Pirate  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:49:40pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:54:47pm

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

I swear to fuckin’ God I’m not trying to be a dick who just talks shit about people’s appearances that they cannot control. I really do think maybe this goes some way towards explaining why Roger is the way he is and honestly if so that sucks. I mean is he even competent to stand trial?

Because yeesh!

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:56:24pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:56:55pm
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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:58:45pm
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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:59:30pm

Guess what you get when you abuse 10,000 children.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 7, 2019 • 4:59:37pm
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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:00:05pm

Millions of dollars in Republican contributions.

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Jay C  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:01:37pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

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CNN is being (IMO) overly generous to Trump with that “$3.1B” net worth: it’s probably his own cite (and thus almost certainly incorrect). Bloomberg’s estimate OTOH, is likely spot-on. Mayor Mike once famously remarked that every year, he gives away more money than Donald Trump is worth in toto.

And apologies to DD: I didn’t read the posts carefully; somehow I assumed Bloomberg was getting into the AL Senate race.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:03:00pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:05:38pm

re: #80 Jay C

And apologies to DD: I didn’t read the posts carefully; somehow I assumed Bloomberg was getting into the AL Senate race.

Easy mistake, everybody else is.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:05:45pm

We just got back from New York, where the temperature is 20° higher than it is here.

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:07:25pm

re: #58 gocart mozart

Dude stole my joke

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:13:24pm

re: #83 The Pie Overlord!

We just got back from New York, where the temperature is 20° higher than it is here.

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The high today in the DFW area was at midnight. We’re roughly about 15 degrees cooler than 19 hours ago.

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William Lewis  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:15:52pm

Looks like pixar’s about to get up into everyone’s feels again…

Soul | Official Teaser Trailer

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:20:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:20:07pm

re: #77 jaunte

Guess what you get when you abuse 10,000 children.

10000 angry adults with memories. Trump is making us the opposite of what we were for immigrant children like some of my ancestors.

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lawhawk  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:23:45pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

Romney who enacted…. *checks notes* Romney Care in Mass., and which formed the basis of Obamacare.

These guys can’t stop lying, no matter what.

The GOP pushed the individual mandate from Heritage, and then turned around and claimed the entire concept is unconstitutional. They are ultimately obstructionist and regressive, because the moment you actually put their policies into practice, they reverse course and claim that the policies they championed are actually illegal/unconstitutional. They propose this stuff, not to get it enacted, but to thwart further advances and improvements to the nation.

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lawhawk  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:24:49pm

re: #83 The Pie Overlord!

Not for long. They’ve been predicting snowflakes here overnight. I don’t think it’ll get that bad in Bergen County, but maybe out in Sussex and Warren (western NJ) they might see some snow.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:25:29pm

re: #87 gocart mozart

Considering she’s taxing the part of their worth that’s only being used to keep score, it’s going to help people more than it’s going to hurt the wealthy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:27:08pm
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Dread Pirate  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:38:56pm
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:39:23pm

re: #37 The Pie Overlord!

So why did he admit to everything then?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:46:13pm

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:46:34pm

re: #87 gocart mozart

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Brian Wesbury
‏Verified account @wesbury

When you tax something you get less of it. If you tax “wealth” you get less wealth, which means slower growth and an environment that makes it harder for people to accumulate wealth. What sense does it make to remove parts of a cow, instead of taxing the milk that it produces?

Here’s the reality that the rich in this country don’t want to address head on because it would totally destroy their entire “taxing us is bad” mentality: Accumulating wealth for the sake of accumulating wealth like a fucked-up form of “score-keeping” does not help the economy in any way. Every dollar “invested” in a hedge fund, stuffed into a foreign bank, or gambled on the stock market is a dollar that is not doing much more than “rent-seeking.” And while that makes the rich richer, it does nothing for the lower classes who never see that dollar except in the news as a number on the DJI.

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Dread Pirate  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:51:21pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:54:35pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 7, 2019 • 5:59:33pm

re: #98 Patricia Kayden

The Oklahoma Autobahn.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:00:38pm

re: #98 Patricia Kayden

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Preview:

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:05:01pm

For a guy that never settles lawsuits, Trump sure does settle a lot of lawsuits.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:06:36pm
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danarchy  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:07:43pm

re: #91 Belafon

Considering she’s taxing the part of their worth that’s only being used to keep score, it’s going to help people more than it’s going to hurt the wealthy.

I have some issues with the wealth tax. There are reasons it has not been particularly successful in any of the countries where it has been attempted and generally ends up getting repealed, and I haven’t heard how Warren is planning on doing it differently to make it work.

Also billionaires wealth generally isn’t particularly liquid. What happens to the market every april when every rich person in the country has to sell off 6% of their assets to pay their tax bill? what happens to individual companies stock when a Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos have to sell off a a big chunk of their assets every single year to pay taxes, and who is doing all the buying? Do Billionaires just have to start turning the shares over to the government and what happens after 20 years or so, does the government hold the majority stake in these private companies? What if your wealth is all in real estate, do you have to sell property to pay your taxes, and who is buying all the real estate?

Who determines total wealth? Does the IRS hire an army of new auditors to go through all the houses to tally up the value of artwork, stamp collections, coin collections, comic book collections, car collections and what not? It just seems fraught with problems to me.

I think we need to focus on a pretty ironclad high percentage estate tax to mitigate generational wealth accumulation.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:16:01pm
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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:17:41pm

re: #103 danarchy

cnbc.com

Bill Gates is now worth over $100B, after giving all that money away each year. He was worth around $60B when he retired. No, the people who have over $1B, which is where her tax would start, aren’t going to have to sell stuff off to stay at that level.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:17:59pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

The Pastor at my church is out of town this week and asked me to preach at our service tonight. I’ve never delivered a sermon before so I’m a little nervous, but it’s an opportunity I’ve wanted for awhile so I’m hoping for the best!

You’ll do great.

Try not to upset anyone too much. ;)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:18:41pm

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Dread Pirate  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:21:47pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:25:05pm
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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:26:56pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Please, please, have him arrested for failing to appear.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:27:25pm

Holy shit!

Hearing Rachel read excerpts from the new Anonymous book and it’s scaring the #2 out of me!

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makeitstop  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:28:02pm
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Romantic Heretic  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:28:43pm

re: #58 gocart mozart

He never said anything about the Christian Taliban.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:29:02pm

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m watching too. I’m going to sleep much easier.
//

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:29:09pm

re: #103 danarchy

I have some issues with the wealth tax. There are reasons it has not been particularly successful in any of the countries where it has been attempted and generally ends up getting repealed, and I haven’t heard how Warren is planning on doing it differently to make it work.

Also billionaires wealth generally isn’t particularly liquid. What happens to the market every april when every rich person in the country has to sell off 6% of their assets to pay their tax bill? what happens to individual companies stock when a Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos have to sell off a a big chunk of their assets every single year to pay taxes, and who is doing all the buying? Do Billionaires just have to start turning the shares over to the government and what happens after 20 years or so, does the government hold the majority stake in these private companies? What if your wealth is all in real estate, do you have to sell property to pay your taxes, and who is buying all the real estate?

Who determines total wealth? Does the IRS hire an army of new auditors to go through all the houses to tally up the value of artwork, stamp collections, coin collections, comic book collections, car collections and what not? It just seems fraught with problems to me.

I think we need to focus on a pretty ironclad high percentage estate tax to mitigate generational wealth accumulation.

Yep. That has been my argument (though not as well presented) for a long time. Get the money through estate taxes — and improve the determination of these taxes. I cannot even imagine how one would determine the value of non-liquid assets such as artwork. What is an original Picasso worth anyway? Let’s not force this to be done on an annual basis.

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:33:34pm

re: #112 makeitstop

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I know it’s a minor thing compared to all the criming Trump does, but could someone please buy that man one of those mirrors with the hinged mirrors on the side that lets you see your face (or whatever) from a side view? He needs to learn how to apply his makeup so it covers the whole side of his face.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:34:22pm

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

Holy shit!

Hearing Rachel read excerpts from the new Anonymous book and it’s scaring the #2 out of me!

Do tell please.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:35:43pm

re: #77 jaunte

Guess what you get when you abuse 10,000 children.

Jailed with the general population I’m hoping.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:36:17pm

Remainder of thread behind the clicky

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:36:31pm

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. That has been my argument (though not as well presented) for a long time. Get the money through estate taxes — and improve the determination of these taxes. I cannot even imagine how one would determine the value of non-liquid assets such as artwork. What is an original Picasso worth anyway? Let’s not force this to be done on an annual basis.

Actually, you wouldn’t need to tax artwork. That’s not money. If they want to buy stuff with their money, I’m all for it. But having it sit around, nope.

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:36:45pm

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. That has been my argument (though not as well presented) for a long time. Get the money through estate taxes — and improve the determination of these taxes. I cannot even imagine how one would determine the value of non-liquid assets such as artwork. What is an original Picasso worth anyway? Let’s not force this to be done on an annual basis.

Also, how much money would this actually bring in? Wouldn’t it be better to tax capital gains at the same rate as earned income? You could do it on an inflation adjusted basis for long term gains if you wanted, but it seems to me the low tax rate on capital gains helps distort the markets, since it’s all about low taxes on those gains.
It would cost us more in taxes, to be sure, but it seems a reasonable thing to do.

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:38:09pm

re: #121 Belafon

Actually, you wouldn’t need to tax artwork. That’s not money. If they want to buy stuff with their money, I’m all for it. But having it sit around, nope.

What about real estate, stocks, diamonds? That way lies madness.

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:38:53pm

re: #115 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. That has been my argument (though not as well presented) for a long time. Get the money through estate taxes — and improve the determination of these taxes. I cannot even imagine how one would determine the value of non-liquid assets such as artwork. What is an original Picasso worth anyway? Let’s not force this to be done on an annual basis.

That might be a good idea in the long term, but how does it address government revenue shortfalls in the short term? I get that we like the imagery of the rich getting so scared shitless of not being able to leave their wealth to their sprogs that they choose to put it back into the economy and thus can just rely upon the tax revenue from that, but what if they just choose to look for ways to get around the eventual tax bill following their demise?

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:39:42pm

re: #124 calochortus

What about real estate, stocks, diamonds? That way lies madness.

Stocks, definitely. Diamonds, don’t care. Real estate, they pay property taxes, which is pretty much a yearly tax on the value of the thing.

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:45:03pm

re: #126 Belafon

Stocks, definitely. Diamonds, don’t care. Real estate, they pay property taxes, which is pretty much a yearly tax on the value of the thing.

But who makes that decision? It’s OK to keep your money in gemstones or paintings stored in a climate controlled warehouse, boxed up so no one will ever see them, but not cash in a safe deposit box? I don’t understand the distinction.

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danarchy  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:46:24pm

re: #121 Belafon

Actually, you wouldn’t need to tax artwork. That’s not money. If they want to buy stuff with their money, I’m all for it. But having it sit around, nope.

Then you aren’t talking about wealth. I don’t see why art or stocks should be treated any differently. They are both assets that can either appreciate or depreciate in value. The only value either has is what someone is willing to pay for them. By creating loopholes like that you will just have people moving wealth to different types of assets.

I just think a wealth tax will have a hugely distorting effect on the economy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:48:46pm

re: #126 Belafon

Stocks, definitely. Diamonds, don’t care. Real estate, they pay property taxes, which is pretty much a yearly tax on the value of the thing.

Artwork, diamonds, collectibles — all have to be taxed (at least as part of the estate). Otherwise, you will end up with additional money being diverted into non-liquid assets to avoid taxation, instead of money being invested in businesses to grow the economy. Note that property taxes are inconsistent from state to state and property is not taxed on the federal level.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:48:47pm

re: #128 calochortus

But who makes that decision? It’s OK to keep your money in gemstones or paintings stored in a climate controlled warehouse, boxed up so no one will ever see them, but not cash in a safe deposit box? I don’t understand the distinction.

Because money is a representation of the value of labor, and is used as a means of transferring that value. And by hoarding that, they are reducing that being circulated through the economy.

If Bill Gates wants to be worth $100B in paintings, more power to him. But his money will be somewhere else.

Money is how we make transactions. And a few people sitting on it reduces that capability.

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:50:33pm

I must admit, I’m rather confused by the whole “what if the rich have all their wealth bound up in physical objects?” argument for avoiding a wealth tax. Doesn’t the same sort of scenario apply to other suggestions like higher/stricter estate taxes? And haven’t we seen plenty of problems in assessing other sorts of taxes, such as capital gains taxes or property taxes, because the rich have found ways to manipulate the valuation of such in order to defraud tax agencies?

If Bill Gates died tomorrow, would an estate tax be assessed towards only what liquid funds he had? Or would the whole of his wealth, from physical objects to stocks/bonds, be put in the pot in order to determine just how big a tax bill he owed Uncle Sam?

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:50:47pm

re: #131 Belafon

Because money is a representation of the value of labor, and is used as a means of transferring that value. And by hoarding that, they are reducing that being circulated through the economy.

If Bill Gates wants to be worth $100B in paintings, more power to him. But his money will be somewhere else.

Money is how we make transactions. And a few people sitting on it reduces that capability.

But that money Bill Gates has isn’t sitting in a safe deposit box. He presumably invested it and it is out there somewhere circulating.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:51:21pm
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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:51:57pm

re: #130 Hecuba’s daughter

Artwork, diamonds, collectibles — all have to be taxed (at least as part of the estate). Otherwise, you will end up with additional money being diverted into non-liquid assets to avoid taxation, instead of money being invested in businesses to grow the economy. Note that property taxes are inconsistent from state to state and property is not taxed on the federal level.

If you make a painting, and I buy it from you, what are you going to do with that money? What are you going to do with that money if you’re worth a billion dollars? What if you sell your painting through a broker? The broker gets money. If it’s at a place that sells art, the employees get paid.

Are you all thinking that money just disappears after the first transaction?

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:53:34pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

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To be fair, considering the level of bile and hatred Trump and his cronies have directed to any person that questions him, such that plans to injure/kills reporters have had to be foiled…perhaps maintaining anonymity in order to say “Trump is an asshole!” isn’t such a stupid idea.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:53:49pm

re: #133 calochortus

But that money Bill Gates has isn’t sitting in a safe deposit box. He presumably invested it and it is out there somewhere circulating.

Bill gates is worth about 70% more than he was when he retired. His money is out there earning more money without an equivalent contribution to the economy. He’s a rentier, one of the people Adam Smith warned us about.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:54:27pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

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Kellyanne has always been weasely scum. Ooops!!! Did I say the “secret” author’s name out loud?

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:55:58pm

re: #139 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

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Kellyanne has always been weasely scum. Ooops!!! Did I say the “secret” author’s name out loud?

I wouldn’t put it past George. He hears all the stuff that’s going on. And it works great because he can’t be found inside the White House.

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danarchy  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:56:17pm

re: #136 Belafon

If you make a painting, and I buy it from you, what are you going to do with that money? What are you going to do with that money if you’re worth a billion dollars? What if you sell your painting through a broker? The broker gets money. If it’s at a place that sells art, the employees get paid.

Are you all thinking that money just disappears after the first transaction?

Sounds a lot like the stock market, with it’s brokers and financial analysts, mail room clerks, executive assistants etc.. I just don’t see why you are treating one asset differently than another?

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:56:58pm

re: #138 Belafon

Bill gates is worth about 70% more than he was when he retired. His money is out there earning more money without an equivalent contribution to the economy. He’s a rentier, one of the people Adam Smith warned us about.

That may or may not be true, but what has it got to do with not taxing wealth tied up in art?

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:57:11pm

My problem isn’t with the anonymity if it’s to avoid danger to your life or your health. But if you’re doing it while still working for Trump and don’t want to lose your job…yeah, you’re an asshole.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:58:27pm

re: #141 danarchy

Sounds a lot like the stock market, with it’s brokers and financial analysts, mail room clerks, executive assistants etc.. I just don’t see why you are treating one asset differently than another?

Because money is different. Money has one purpose: To exchange labor for product or service. Money not being used for that purpose, being used to keep score, is damaging to any system that uses it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 7, 2019 • 6:59:13pm

re: #136 Belafon

If you make a painting, and I buy it from you, what are you going to do with that money? What are you going to do with that money if you’re worth a billion dollars? What if you sell your painting through a broker? The broker gets money. If it’s at a place that sells art, the employees get paid.

Are you all thinking that money just disappears after the first transaction?

How is this any different than buying stocks from someone? The only issue is that it is more difficult to evaluate a work of art than stocks, which have a market value that fluctuates daily, except for shares from a privately held corporation.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:01:29pm

Li’l Sebastian?

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:01:42pm

re: #144 Belafon

Because money is different. Money has one purpose: To exchange labor for product or service. Money not being used for that purpose, being used to keep score, is damaging to any system that uses it.

I really don’t understand why a diamond in a safe is less damaging to the economy than the cash price of that diamond invested in a business.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:03:47pm

re: #142 calochortus

That may or may not be true, but what has it got to do with not taxing wealth tied up in art?

OK, you got me. I take it back. When you buy a painting, the amount you pay for it will be the value it’s worth. You can treat that as the value of the painting, and that is how it will be taxed every year.

The reason I don’t care about physical assets is that you are exchanging money for that asset. And that asset, while it might go up in value, isn’t really worth anything else until you try to sell it again.

On the other hand, look at where the money of people worth billions are sitting. It’s not circulating as part of transactions for labor. It’s sitting in the stock market, earning money for just being money. And, as I said, and as I believe, that is not contributing to our society, that is drawing money off of other people’s contributions. And that is why I treat that level of money different than what any of us here have.

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danarchy  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:06:30pm

re: #148 Belafon

OK, you got me. I take it back. When you buy a painting, the amount you pay for it will be the value it’s worth. You can treat that as the value of the painting, and that is how it will be taxed every year.

The reason I don’t care about physical assets is that you are exchanging money for that asset. And that asset, while it might go up in value, isn’t really worth anything else until you try to sell it again.

You’ve literally just described stocks…

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:07:57pm

re: #147 calochortus

I really don’t understand why a diamond in a safe is less damaging to the economy than the cash price of that diamond invested in a business.

Does our modern stock market work as a way to invest in companies for long term improvement of our country? Or is it geared toward short term profits in order to keep score?

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uncah91  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:08:32pm

Unless your money is literally cash under a mattress, the argument about “circulation” makes no sense. Even if you put it in a savings account, that money is circulated through the economy (see the Jimmy Stewart speech in “It’s a Wonderful Life”).

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:11:08pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:11:50pm

re: #139 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

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What about Steve Mnuchin?

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:12:21pm

re: #148 Belafon

OK, you got me. I take it back. When you buy a painting, the amount you pay for it will be the value it’s worth. You can treat that as the value of the painting, and that is how it will be taxed every year.

The reason I don’t care about physical assets is that you are exchanging money for that asset. And that asset, while it might go up in value, isn’t really worth anything else until you try to sell it again.

On the other hand, look at where the money of people worth billions are sitting. It’s not circulating as part of transactions for labor. It’s sitting in the stock market, earning money for just being money. And, as I said, and as I believe, that is not contributing to our society, that is drawing money off of other people’s contributions. And that is why I treat that level of money different than what any of us here have.

I think that’s why taxing wealth won’t work well. There are lots of ways to stash it away. I was really surprised to hear about US warehouses that are somehow considered outside the US (maybe at ports of entry, I’m afraid I really don’t remember.) They are full of expensive works of art that are boxed up and never viewed by their owners or anyone else. That is a great tax dodge and way to store your wealth, but I can’t imagine what it does for the economy.

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danarchy  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:12:55pm

re: #150 Belafon

Does our modern stock market work as a way to invest in companies for long term improvement of our country? Or is it geared toward short term profits in order to keep score?

I dunno Amazon lived off of investor money and then off of money it made during it’s IPO before it ever became profitable. Where would we all be without next day shipping. Uber is still living off of investor capital in hopes it will someday be profitable.

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:15:04pm

re: #150 Belafon

Does our modern stock market work as a way to invest in companies for long term improvement of our country? Or is it geared toward short term profits in order to keep score?

It does both. Tax policies, such as taxing capital gains as ordinary income (with a possible adjustment for inflation) would presumably push stock markets away from capital gains at all costs as it is now.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:16:28pm

re: #149 danarchy

You’ve literally just described stocks…

Except stocks are different. Unless a company folds, you have the right to demand I pay you for that stock, hopefully with interest, at any time. And that’s the fundamental point I am trying to make. Money, in an of itself, is different, and has a different relationship in our economy than anything else.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:17:40pm

re: #75 gocart mozart
Whale in video:

Hvaldimir:

Hvaldimir is a male[1] beluga whale that fishers near Hammerfest in northern Norway noticed in April 2019 wearing a camera harness; after being freed from the harness, the whale remained in the area and appeared used to humans. Speculation that he had been trained as a Russian spy whale led to his being dubbed Hvaldimir, from Norwegian: hval (whale) and Vladimir Putin.

The whale appeared beginning on 26 April 2019[2] north of Hammerfest, off the island of Ingøya and near the village of Tufjord on the island of Rolvsøya, wearing a tight-fitting camera harness labelled “Equipment St. Petersburg”, and rubbing against boats in apparent attempts to free himself.[3] Animal rescue staff and the fishers worked to free him from the harness, a fisher named Joar Hesten finally putting on a survival suit and jumping over the side of the boat to loosen the buckles.[2][4] The whale continued to return to the boats for several days, asking for food and playing fetch,[5][6][7] and has shown himself to be very tame, coming when called and liking to be scratched around the blowhole.[6][7][8][9] He later followed a boat to the Hammerfest harbour.[8][10]

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:18:21pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:19:08pm
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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:19:30pm

re: #156 calochortus

It does both. Tax policies, such as taxing capital gains as ordinary income (with a possible adjustment for inflation) would presumably push stock markets away from capital gains at all costs as it is now.

I think a capital gains tax, and a transaction tax, would be a great way to fix the stock market and it’s relationship with us. But when you’re worth $50B, you’re money is earning money just by existing, money that really does represent someone else’s labor. And we strangle the economy by sitting on it.

The other option is to drive inflation up - by printing money - to drive down the net worth of the money people don’t spend. But I’m really not fond of that idea.

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:21:00pm
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Amory Blaine  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:23:22pm

Is Don Jr still married?

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:23:27pm

re: #161 Belafon

I think a capital gains tax, and a transaction tax, would be a great way to fix the stock market and it’s relationship with us. But when you’re worth $50B, you’re money is earning money just by existing, money that really does represent someone else’s labor. And we strangle the economy by sitting on it.

The other option is to drive inflation up - by printing money - to drive down the net worth of the money people don’t spend.

To some extent I think we worry too much about billionaires. There are somewhere around 600 of them in the US. I think the wheels of commerce will turn more smoothly with a broad based but progressive tax system

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:23:57pm

But at some level, I agree, assets are a thing, and probably should be counted. But getting hung up on how much a Picasso should be counted detracts from the fact that it’s their money earning more money without them doing any work, any of their own contribution equal to that earning, that is really troublesome. At least when you go buy something physical, or pay someone a million dollars to play the piano for you, are you contributing to someone else’s labor. And if the person who you bought it from just sits on the money, then the taxing is their problem.

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:26:10pm

re: #165 Belafon

Sadly, no one is asking either one of us to develop tax policy.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:26:18pm

There’s nothing wrong with concentrated ire against people that don’t give a flying fuck if the poor in this country eat or sleep in a home. Whining about their money is telling. If it slows growth, fuck it. Criminal bankers slowed growth, less whining then though.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:26:29pm

re: #164 calochortus

To some extent I think we worry too much about billionaires. There are somewhere around 600 of them in the US. I think the wheels of commerce will turn more smoothly with a broad based but progressive tax system

True, and taxes that force businesses to invest in people. And you combing it with a real estate tax - now we’re back to where we were before. But that’s not where we are now. And, unless you have every wealthy person give almost all of their money away, eventually you get the Kochs.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:28:36pm

Wait until Don Jrs grandkids, shrouded with exploding wealth, gets bored and wants to turn america into his own fiefdom. Tax the fuck out of them, they can spend their time evading it rather than destroying democracy.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:31:07pm

I will just view money as different than the book sitting in front of me or the house I am in because of what money represents. And I will view people who can give a few hundred million a year a way and be worth more at the end of each year as different than the rest of us. And while I don’t hold great animosity toward them - though I wish I could get one of them to pay off a couple of things to make my life much easier - I think that hoarding money, even the semi-imaginary money of the stock market, is a problem, but this one affects all of us.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:32:36pm

America’s Un-American Resistance to the Estate Tax

The founders knew the dangers, and now the danger is back.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:33:49pm

Yeah america shouldn’t have to bow and scrape money from billionaires and rely on their whims to give it away, fuck that.

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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:40:37pm

Hey, here’s a thought. Let’s have higher taxes and a good social safety net for everyone and then we won’t have worry quite so much about amassing money and leaving it to our children.
Nahhh, who would want that?
/

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:41:02pm

Thread of recent Trump political history

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Amory Blaine  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:43:15pm

Over half of my gross income already goes to taxes, payroll, property, gas, every good and service I consume. I’m already paying more than my share. Time for the deadbeats to kick in.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:44:20pm

re: #173 calochortus

Hey, here’s a thought. Let’s have higher taxes and a good social safety net for everyone and then we won’t have worry quite so much about amassing money and leaving it to our children.
Nahhh, who would want that?
/

Now, how do you keep the people who like to keep score from destroying it when they have enough money?

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:44:54pm
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calochortus  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:49:56pm

re: #176 Belafon

Now, how do you keep the people who like to keep score from destroying it when they have enough money?

Well, yeah, that’s a problem. Oligarchy appears somewhere on Brown’s list of Human Universals.

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:53:19pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:57:16pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:58:37pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 7:59:37pm

I heart Soledad

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:02:12pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:04:02pm

re: #147 calochortus

I really don’t understand why a diamond in a safe is less damaging to the economy than the cash price of that diamond invested in a business.

Businesses make things, sell things, and buy things, which employs people. There is a multiplying effect, which is different for giving breaks to poor people (who spend it because they need things), vs. rich people (who need a 10th yacht, apparently).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:05:17pm

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:06:11pm

re: #185 Joe Bacon 🌹

Did you make that?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:09:08pm

re: #186 jaunte

Did you make that?

I’m still learning my way around Photoshop.

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:09:32pm

re: #187 Joe Bacon 🌹

Can I retweet?

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:14:36pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:15:55pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:16:38pm

re: #179 jaunte

Three billionaires are running a hobby campaign for Prez, if you count Trump.

And there is a problem with billionaires beyond their utility. If you have a few billion to spare for lawyers, you or your unborn heir can actually shoot someone on 5th Ave and face low likelihood of any discomfort. That is, even “good” billionaires do not fit into a democracy run through law. They inherently warp the process, and Trump is living proof of it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:19:06pm

re: #188 jaunte

Can I retweet?

Hey, feel free!!!!!!

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:21:01pm

re: #191 Decatur Deb

A few years ago WSJ ran a long article about the effort put into designing supercars like the Bugatti Veyron (since eclipsed by even more expensive vehicles) that combined extreme luxury with extreme performance, just to give the wealthy another display of ostentatious spending. There’s a lot of effort put into clawing back some of the money (and power) they accumulate.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:23:42pm

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:27:21pm
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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:27:51pm

re: #194 Joe Bacon 🌹

I wonder about people who believe slogans painted on a car will convince people of anything.

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:28:22pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:28:45pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:28:57pm

An early example of shooting someone on 6th Ave in front of hundreds of wealthy witnesses:

Harry Kendall Thaw (February 12, 1871 - February 22, 1947)[2][3] was the son of Pittsburgh coal and railroad baron William Thaw Sr. Heir to a multimillion-dollar mine and railroad fortune, Thaw had a history of severe mental instability and led a profligate life. He is most notable for shooting and killing the renowned architect Stanford White on June 25, 1906, on the rooftop of Madison Square Garden in front of hundreds of witnesses. Thaw had become obsessed with his hatred of White. He thought White had blocked his access to the social elite of New York, and White had also had a previous relationship with Thaw’s wife, the model/chorus girl Evelyn Nesbit. White and Nesbit had a sexual relationship in 1901-1902, when she was 16-17 years old, and their relationship had allegedly begun with White plying Nesbit with alcohol (and possibly drugs) and assaulting her while she was unconscious. In Thaw’s mind, the relationship had “ruined” her. Thaw’s trial for murder was heavily publicized in the press, to the extent that it was called the “trial of the century”. After one hung jury, he was found not guilty by reason of insanity.

en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:29:39pm

re: #198 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Macron: NATO is experiencing “brain death” due to Trump admin

White House: “Same”

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:30:30pm

Here’s a good idea:

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:31:07pm

re: #196 jaunte

I wonder about people who believe slogans painted on a car will convince people of anything.

Badly quoting a Bob Marley lyric to support white nationalism is an interesting choice.

Get Up Stand Up | Playing For Change | Song Around The World

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:32:43pm

Holy crap

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gocart mozart  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:38:19pm
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:41:56pm

re: #199 Decatur Deb

One of the many storylines in E.L. Doctrow’s “Ragtime”. An excellent novel.

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Dread Pirate  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:45:18pm
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cat-tikvah  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:46:44pm

My useless Republican senator, who ran on a promise not to be a rubber stamp for trump.
Interesting bit of linguistic trivia:
The colloquial translation of “rubber stamp” in Russian (послушный инструмент) literally translates to “obedient tool”.
thehill.com

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 7, 2019 • 8:47:33pm
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mmmirele  Nov 7, 2019 • 9:10:00pm

re: #112 makeitstop

My congressman, the execrable Andy Biggs, keeps making comments about “the whistleblower” on his FB, but not naming him. I’ve told him a couple of times that the Russians are naming him and some guests on Fox news, and if the whistleblower comes to harm I will hold *him*, Congressman Andy Biggs, to account.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 7, 2019 • 9:48:48pm

re: #203 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Holy crap

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There was an incident like that in Lubbock a few days ago, mixed cleaners and all.

Six people taken to hospital, exposed to chemical fumes at adult care facility

Six people were taken to the hospital after being exposed to chemical fumes at The Plaza adult care facility at 4910 Emory on Saturday.

Lubbock Fire Rescue says an employee was disposing of two chemicals, bleach and scale. The mixture created an off-gas that affected the kitchen and dining hall. The residents were sheltered in their rooms while five employees and one resident were taken to the hospital.

LFR was able to ventilate the building until it was safe.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2019 • 9:59:04pm

re: #203 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Holy crap

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Trying to create a really spicy buffalo wing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2019 • 10:05:26pm

re: #210 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There was an incident like that in Lubbock a few days ago, mixed cleaners and all.

Six people taken to hospital, exposed to chemical fumes at adult care facility

Hell, I remember High School Chemistry Class we were told NEVER mix chlorine bleach with ammonia. Of course the class clown did it and the room had to be evacuated…

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uriel  Nov 7, 2019 • 10:33:03pm

re: #103 danarchy

What happens to the market every april when every rich person in the country has to sell off 6% of their assets to pay their tax bill?

This would actually be a good thing. It means all that money locked up in static capital and and stagnant investments is, finally, being recycled through the economy. In a capitalist economy, (which, unfortunately with we are going to be stuck with, in one form or another for the foreseeable future,) the primary engine for growth, for everyone involved, is the free flow of capital.

The absolute worst situation in such an economy is one where a few oligarchs and monopolists accrue vast sums of money which then gets segregated from the larger cycle by virtue of those privileged individuals just sitting on it. This keeps it from being available to other entrepreneurs/ wage-earners/ funds/ loan organizations to move around in the general economy in ways that can actually encourage purchasing, entrepreneurship or reinvestment.

That’s part of the reason why the 50’s were such a boom time in this country. The rich, while still disgustingly well off by global standards, still faced pressures to actually use their wealth to benefit their workers with reasonably fair pay and benefits, invest in R&D, or spend on charities and philanthropy. And they realized that this was not only good for their tax burden, but benefited the consumers capitalism depends on to be viable.

It’s really the only reason the Ford or Carnagie foundations exist- and the work those foundations enable benefit the public immensely, both in terms of financial and cultural terms.

A capitalist society where the top couple of hundred or so people are allowed to accumulate the monstrous hoards of capital that then gets sequestered away in their own personal treasuries, is really one of the most untenable states for an economy to find itself in. Think French Revolution or 1930’s America levels of unsustainability.

(ETA- ESPECIALLY if we could peg those re-distributions of capital to re-occurring events. Imagine the benefits to small investors and retirement funds if they knew that wide swaths of investment opportunities would crop up, like clockwork, around April every year?)

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 7, 2019 • 10:49:22pm

As I read every lizard’s thought on billionaires, no one here, or on Twitter, has made this observation: Have you never wondered why many folk tales feature an evil dragon and its hoard of gold and treasure?

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uriel  Nov 7, 2019 • 10:51:24pm

re: #214 Sherlock Hound

As I read every lizard’s thought on billionaires, no one here, or on Twitter, has made this observation: Have you never wondered why many folk tales feature an evil dragon and its hoard of gold and treasure?

Ha! You win cleverest reference!

(Also, that is exactly the situation I was trying to describe.)

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Dread Pirate  Nov 7, 2019 • 11:25:25pm
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Dread Pirate  Nov 7, 2019 • 11:45:59pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2019 • 12:10:11am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 8, 2019 • 12:57:58am

re: #218 goddamnedfrank

“Anonymous” is also accidentally demonstrating exactly why Trump just wanders on unchecked by anyone Republican: “He’s a nightmare, but I get my agenda advanced as a side effect of his terrible thoughtless bullshit” is equal parts self-own, confession, and subtle hint that the shit you want is probably horrible because the guy built entirely of sociopathy and cruelty is willing to rubber stamp it.

It’s the kind of argument an Innsmouth citizen makes about their contract with Dagon.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 1:55:40am

up at this hour to take mrs dm to the airport

shes on her way to NJ to see dad (and mom) and then to NYC for a trade show
i’ll be staying toasty and warm with the cats in sofla

not usually up at 4:30 in the AM
sure is quiet
…too quiet

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 2:11:52am
“House Republicans’ latest plan to shield President Trump from impeachment is to focus on at least three deputies — Ambassador Gordon Sondland, Rudy Giuliani, and possibly acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney — who they say could have acted on their own to influence Ukraine policy,” the Washington Post reports.

i wonder how they roped him in and got him to do that ‘perfect’ call. you know, asking for ‘a favor’?

more to the point, why these people are falling over themselves to throw each under the nearest greyhound to protect a guy they idolize yet know is guilty as sin….

During Iran-contra, Alan Simpson said “Either Reagan is lying or he’s a fool.”
So now the R’s are going to actually admit they have twice elected a fool?

Cult of personality indeed.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 2:16:45am

re elizabeth warren:

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 2:17:27am

re: #221 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

i wonder how they roped him in and got him to do that ‘perfect’ call. you know, asking for ‘a favor’?

more to the point, why these people are falling over themselves to throw each under the nearest greyhound to protect a guy they idolize yet know is guilty as sin….

During Iran-contra, Alan Simpson said “Either Reagan is lying or he’s a fool.”
So now the R’s are going to actually admit they have twice elected a fool?

Cult of personality indeed.

It’s very much a personality cult, but it seems to me that it’s mostly emanating from the GOP base - and the elected Republicans are too frightened of their base to stand up to them, especially now that an election year is coming.

If the Trumpites that form a majority of the base turn on them, it’s all over for the Republicans and they damn well know it.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 2:27:45am

re: #223 Dr Lizardo

agreed
and while that is the calculus of the senate and house R’s and the admin, i dont see these three (or any one else) agreeing to be sacrificial lambs

if they dont fall on their swords they might navigate trhought this and save their individual reputations. yeah it would be worse for trump and the party at large and likely bring it dow

if they do take they rap, none of this matters, they are personally toast and what the base thinks of them isnt relevant

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 2:37:53am

re: #169 Amory Blaine

Wait until Don Jrs grandkids, shrouded with exploding wealth, gets bored and wants to turn america into his own fiefdom. Tax the fuck out of them, they can spend their time evading it rather than destroying democracy.

“Loan us all your money, we will use it to buy everything you own and then lease it back to you!”

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 2:50:54am

So, getting used to a vertical mouse. It’s a bit different, to say the least. Previously, I was using a conventional wireless mouse; this new one is also wireless, so it’s just a matter of getting used to the different hand position.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 2:58:35am

So, the trailer for Color Out Of Space (based on the famous short story by H.P. Lovecraft and starring Nick Cage) dropped and it looks interesting.

To be fair, it’s not easy adapting Lovecraft to cinema, but I’d say they made an effort on this one.

COLOR OUT OF SPACE Official Trailer (2020) Nicolas Cage Movie

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 3:06:14am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

So, getting used to a vertical mouse. It’s a bit different, to say the least. Previously, I was using a conventional wireless mouse; this new one is also wireless, so it’s just a matter of getting used to the different hand position.

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I use that exact mouse (but wired) and have for years. I absolutely love it.

My hand thanks me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 3:06:27am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

So, the trailer for Color Out Of Space (based on the famous short story by H.P. Lovecraft and starring Nick Cage) dropped and it looks interesting.

To be fair, it’s not easy adapting Lovecraft to cinema, but I’d say they made an effort on this one.

Glad to see Nick Cage working off his tax debts…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 3:10:35am

Trump impeachment intimidation: Weaponized Twitter feed, die-hard fans who get the ‘code’
We have to accept that part of Trump’s base is ‘deplorable. No breach of ethics, crime or act of moral depravity will shake their blind support.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 3:14:10am

So… Question for you guys.

Above is a tweet about Alex Jones and witness tampering for Roger Stone’s trial.

If you were on the jury, could you be impartial if you knew that? Because I’d vote Guilty no matter what… Just because I was threatened.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 3:14:11am

re: #228 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I use that exact mouse (but wired) and have for years. I absolutely love it.

My hand thanks me.

One of my students ordered a wired left-handed version of that mouse; she has rather mild carpal tunnel syndrome. She says it’s much better than a conventional mouse.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 3:19:07am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

One of my students ordered a wired left-handed version of that mouse; she has rather mild carpal tunnel syndrome. She says it’s much better than a conventional mouse.

I have major tendonitis and my thumbs barely work. This helps enormously.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 8, 2019 • 3:57:30am
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John Hughes  Nov 8, 2019 • 3:59:33am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

And this bit is just stupid:

Countries with socialized medicine make their numbers work through limits on care

Well, no.

It’s countries without “socialised medicine” that put limits on care.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:08:10am

Things like the following just don’t get attention they need. A small circle of investigators dig this stuff up, and a small fraction of the electorate even notices it, the rest just don’t care or worse, approve of turning the US into a theocracy:

How Mike Pence’s Office Meddled in Foreign Aid to Reroute Money to Favored Christian Groups

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:17:24am

re: #221 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

i wonder how they roped him in and got him to do that ‘perfect’ call. you know, asking for ‘a favor’?

more to the point, why these people are falling over themselves to throw each under the nearest greyhound to protect a guy they idolize yet know is guilty as sin….

During Iran-contra, Alan Simpson said “Either Reagan is lying or he’s a fool.”
So now the R’s are going to actually admit they have twice elected a fool?

Cult of personality indeed.

Repubs falling back on the classics, in this case “Overzealous staffers!”. Much like the line that Trump’s too dumb to commit bribery, they really seem to eager to stomp all over his ego to suggest that he’s a total idiot for the purpose of suggesting he stumbled into a crime.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:20:10am

re: #235 John Hughes

And this bit is just stupid:

Well, no.

It’s countries without “socialised medicine” that put limits on care.

Some definitely put a limit on what’s in the guaranteed “market basket”. You can manage that through a mixed system: critical affordable stuff for everyone, ass-enhancement surgery through insurance or the patient’s pocket.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:23:30am

re: #235 John Hughes

And this bit is just stupid:

Countries with socialized medicine make their numbers work through limits on care

Well, no.

It’s countries without “socialised medicine” that put limits on care.

Socialized medicine means Death Panels and people bleeding to death outside of overcrowded clinics…

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steve_davis  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:24:17am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

So, the trailer for Color Out Of Space (based on the famous short story by H.P. Lovecraft and starring Nick Cage) dropped and it looks interesting.

To be fair, it’s not easy adapting Lovecraft to cinema, but I’d say they made an effort on this one.

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possibly Lovecraft’s best story. “The Picture in the Room” is also creepy as hell, but Colour Out of Space could easily stand with anything in Ploughshares or Kenyon Review.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:26:43am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:28:36am

re: #241 Patricia Kayden

TREAT THE PRESIDENT WITH RESPECT.

While we treat him like a child.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:29:59am

re: #241 Patricia Kayden

“Then officials were told that the PowerPoint decks needed to be slimmed down. The president couldn’t digest too many slides. He needed more images to keep his interest - and fewer words.”

Funny thing, these are the very things that endear him to his supporters…they want someone who thinks and speaks the way they do and can explain things in terms they can grasp.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:38:09am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:40:21am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:41:46am

re: #244 Ace-o-aces

Ben i would say from reading Andrew Marantz’ book about the Alt Right (Antisocial) fits in to the “Civic Nationalist” subgroup. The ones that the really big nuts call “Alt lite.”. Good job sourcing his own shit against him. The dude is a bigoted asshole.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:44:20am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:46:31am

re: #247 Patricia Kayden

Meanwhlie we have Trump who is completely uninterested in human rights abroad.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:53:25am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 4:54:34am

re: #249 Patricia Kayden

I guess they feel the evidence will go away if they just ignore it. Too bad evidence doesn’t work that way.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:01:49am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

I didn’t know of such a thing! Thanks I’m going to try it.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:04:55am

re: #251 Shropshire Slasher

I didn’t know of such a thing! Thanks I’m going to try it.

In the brief time I’ve been using it, I can say it’s definitely more comfortable than a conventional mouse.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:09:34am

re: #249 Patricia Kayden

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They want badly to make this another Iran-Contra, insisting that the guy at the top had no idea what his underlings were doing and just went along with whatever they told him. Besides the obvious blow to Donny’s ego in saying that he’s so easily duped that he had no clue what was going on until the alarm bells were sounded, it also needs there to be fall guys who are willing to take the blame in order to protect their boss. And yet nobody’s doing that, everybody is either pointing fingers at Donny or hiding behind whines about an “unfair process.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:26:58am

re: #253 Targetpractice

They want badly to make this another Iran-Contra, insisting that the guy at the top had no idea what his underlings were doing and just went along with whatever they told him.

He was “perfectly” unaware?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:36:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:39:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:40:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:42:58am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:43:51am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait ‘til they install the Skynet CPU’s.

Heh.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:45:12am

re: #253 Targetpractice

They want badly to make this another Iran-Contra, insisting that the guy at the top had no idea what his underlings were doing and just went along with whatever they told him. Besides the obvious blow to Donny’s ego in saying that he’s so easily duped that he had no clue what was going on until the alarm bells were sounded, it also needs there to be fall guys who are willing to take the blame in order to protect their boss. And yet nobody’s doing that, everybody is either pointing fingers at Donny or hiding behind whines about an “unfair process.”

I never voted for Reagan but he was initially elected when we were in the midst of an economic crisis(sky-high interest rates, high inflation, a stock market that still hadn’t recovered from a dramatic fall from its 1972 height) and a continuing international political crisis. He was a very popular president with a congenial personality — even though his domestic policy set the modern Republican standards.

Iran-contra was not a policy to help him get re-elected, nor to benefit Russia; it wasn’t something adopted over the objections of the State Department. This was an illegal policy his administration thought would help the US position in Central America (and I have no doubt that Bush was aware and endorsed it). The GOP may be trying to make it an Iran-contra — but we also didn’t have a “transcript” of a conversation where Reagan was trying to arrange a backdoor exchange of arms to Iran to get funds to the contras.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:47:49am

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

But Corbyn is accused of suborning anti-Semitism. It’s a shame that Labour didn’t have a better leader.

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jeffreyw  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:49:44am

Good morning!

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:51:49am

Apologies if alresdy covered

Rereading CNN’s analysis of the trump foundatuion settlement looks like I was right the first time
Liquidate the 1.8m in the trust plus another 2million personally

The list of nonprofits that the judge approved to receive Trump’s $2 million include the Army Emergency Relief, Children’s Aid Society, City Meals-on-Wheels, Give an Hour, Martha’s Table, United Negro College Fund, United Way of Capital Area and the US Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Those organizations will also receive equal portions of the charity’s remaining liquid assets, which total roughly $1.8 million, according to the judge’s order

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:58:49am

re: #261 Patricia Kayden

But Corbyn is accused of suborning anti-Semitism. It’s a shame that Labour didn’t have a better leader.

And both sides are now accused of taking Russian money (through oligiarchsht - which I never spell right) and paying for the Russians to influence the Brexit referendum.

No wonder Corbyn and Johnson are the “best” the UK ruling class has to offer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 5:59:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:00:11am

This is the equivalent of Butter Emails: the Dems are corrupt, too!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:00:31am

O_o

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:02:33am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

Meanwhlie we have Trump who is completely uninterested in human rights abroad AT HOME.

FIFY

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:04:03am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“We want to know who started this story about a break-in at the Watergate Hotel! We’ll bring in witnesses to testify about how the DNC were spying on the Nixon campaign!”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:04:56am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

In the brief time I’ve been using it, I can say it’s definitely more comfortable than a conventional mouse.

There are two different ones that look almost identical. One is great, the other just ok. The difference is the pressure needed to click. One takes A LOT of pressure.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:09:13am

bloomberg:

and

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:11:34am

re: #237 Targetpractice

Repubs falling back on the classics, in this case “Overzealous staffers!”. Much like the line that Trump’s too dumb to commit bribery, they really seem to eager to stomp all over his ego to suggest that he’s a total idiot for the purpose of suggesting he stumbled into a crime.

reagan could act
he had no trouble ‘pretending’ he was out of the loop and clueless
(he was acting, right?)

trump otoh, has an ego and is mortally concerned with his image and social media presence. he simply will not let this line of defense happen

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:13:45am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Yesterday, NY held Trump to account for running a scam charity. The settlement agreement includes multiple stipulations, including that Trump admits he engaged in wrongdoing and must pay $2 million because of his breach of his fiduciary duty.

So when Trump goes on a rant about how Trump didn’t do anything wrong or that he’s not responsible, or that it was a witch hunt to get him by NY, the state court and State AG have an actual court document with Trump admitting to wrongdoing.

The lawsuit against the Donald J. Trump Foundation was filed in June 2018 — charging the Foundation’s directors with ignoring their oversight duties under New York’s charity laws and demonstrating how Mr. Trump repeatedly used Foundation money for his own personal, business, and political interests, including the unlawful coordination with his 2016 presidential campaign. In the first half of 2016 — at the height of the Republican primaries — Mr. Trump used Foundation money, raised from the public, to demonstrate his purported generosity and attract votes. Mr. Trump and his campaign doled out $500,000 at a campaign rally in the days leading up to the first primary election in the nation, the Iowa caucuses, then took credit for all $2.8 million in grants the Foundation made.

In her decision ordering Mr. Trump to pay $2 million, Justice Saliann Scarpulla said, “…Mr. Trump breached his fiduciary duty to the Foundation and that waste occurred to the Foundation. Mr. Trump’s fiduciary duty breaches included allowing his campaign to orchestrate the Fundraiser, allowing his campaign, instead of the Foundation, to direct distribution of the Funds, and using the Fundraiser and distribution of the Funds to further Mr. Trump’s political campaign.”

In total, the Office of the Attorney General has entered into four stipulation agreements as part of this settlement.

Last year, in December 2018, following a court decision in favor of the Attorney General’s Office, the first stipulation took effect when the Trump Foundation agreed to shutter its doors and dissolve under court supervision. In October 2019, the Office of the Attorney General entered three additional stipulations. One stipulation ensures that the Foundation’s remaining assets will go to reputable charities approved by Attorney General James and that have no connection to Mr. Trump or his family members. Another stipulation ensures that Donald Trump, Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump received training on the duties of officers and directors of charities so that they cannot allow the illegal activity they oversaw at the Trump Foundation to take place again.

The third stipulation includes 19 paragraphs of factual admissions by Mr. Trump and the Foundation of illegal activity. Mr. Trump admitted that the Foundation’s board of directors — of which he was chair — failed to meet, failed to provide oversight over the Foundation, and failed to adopt legally required policies and procedures. He also admitted that these failures “contributed to the Foundation’s participation” in seven related party transactions described in the settlement document and in the Attorney General’s lawsuit.

Mr. Trump and the Foundation have admitted key facts about their illegal political coordination with the Trump campaign, including that a purported Foundation fundraiser in January 2016 was in fact a campaign event, and that Foundation gave the Trump campaign complete control over the timing, amounts, and recipients of the $2.8 million raised through that event. Mr. Trump further admits that he and his campaign took credit for the grants that the Foundation made with funds that had been raised from the public. Justice Scarpulla noted in her decision that “Mr. Trump’s campaign, rather than the Foundation: (1) ‘planned’ and ‘organized’ the Fundraiser; and (2) ‘directed the timing, amounts, and recipients of the Foundation’s grants to charitable organizations supporting military veterans.’”

As everyone suspected, Trump used the foundation as a slush fund. As Democrats knew, Trump’s focus on Clinton’s foundation was a deflection and a tell. When Trump said that Clintons were running a scam foundation, it was a tell namely that Trump was doing the very crimes that he alleged Clintons were doing.

Thing is that Clinton Foundation docs were all publicly available. They published their financials and 990s for all to see. Trump shielded all of his tax documents, and it took the work of folks like Fahrenthold to uncover the malfeasance. And what was uncovered was systematic violations of election law, tax law, and should have resulted in criminal prosecutions.

Trump continues breaking the law on a daily basis, and he blusters and bulkshits his way through life deflecting attention from one crime with a host of others.

His kids are no different. They’ve grown up to be sociopaths just like dad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:13:55am

re: #272 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

reagan could act
he had no trouble ‘pretending’ he was out of the loop and clueless
(he was acting, right?)

trump otoh, has an ego and is mortally concerned with his image and social media presence. he simply will not let this line of defense happen

and this is the difference between electing a B-movie star and a reality TV personality…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:14:02am

heh

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:15:15am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

From the author of “I Don’t Think They Go to Church”

“There are black people putting suitcases into the trunk of a car in broad daylight!”

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:17:50am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

In the brief time I’ve been using it, I can say it’s definitely more comfortable than a conventional mouse.

i used a left handed one of these for years (yes a lefty)

when it died i switched to this. about 7 years now

i hate the movements necessary with conventional type mice

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:19:20am

re: #277 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

I’ve used that Logitech thumb ball since they came out with the original, decades ago. Love it, wouldn’t want a computer without it.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:20:08am

Heh.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:24:26am

re: #277 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

i used a left handed one of these for years (yes a lefty)

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i hate the movements necessary with conventional type mice

I love trackballs…but sadly, here, they’re not easy to find and they tend to be really pricey.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:24:34am

re: #278 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’ve used that Logitech thumb ball since they came out with the original, decades ago. Love it, wouldn’t want a computer without it.

around 10-12 years ago it dawned on me that i could move the pointer device to my left hand and reverse the buttons. epiphany it was. shortly thereafter came the trackball…

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:24:49am

This.

All the people in Trumpworld who have peddled books and whisper about how things are beyond incompetent and criminal in Trumpworld, but do not actually act to stop the criminality and to blow the whistle on everything are fucking cowards and craven.

They’re fine with the policies Trump manages. Some of those who oppose Trump do so not because they oppose the policies, but because Trump is too incompetent to properly impose them.

They wont step up to 25A Trump. They wont speak out against Trump’s nonstop criminal conduct. They however will write books trying to profit on their time in Trump’s criminal syndicate all to claim that they didn’t abide by it.

Sorry, but their actual silence is assent. What we know of Trumpworld is plainly available without tell-all books. Trump is a crook whose singularly spectacular skill is to con people and engage in crimes without being held responsible. Now that Democrats control the House, we’re starting to see him being held responsible, and even these tentative steps show how unhinged Trump is and can be.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:24:59am

re: #268 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

FIFY

That too.

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:25:09am
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:28:01am

speculating on ‘anonymous’ is different than the whistleblower, right?

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:28:51am
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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:29:26am

re: #282 lawhawk

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This.

All the people in Trumpworld who have peddled books and whisper about how things are beyond incompetent and criminal in Trumpworld, but do not actually act to stop the criminality and to blow the whistle on everything are fucking cowards and craven.

They’re fine with the policies Trump manages. Some of those who oppose Trump do so not because they oppose the policies, but because Trump is too incompetent to properly impose them.

They wont step up to 25A Trump. They wont speak out against Trump’s nonstop criminal conduct. They however will write books trying to profit on their time in Trump’s criminal syndicate all to claim that they didn’t abide by it.

Sorry, but their actual silence is assent. What we know of Trumpworld is plainly available without tell-all books. Trump is a crook whose singularly spectacular skill is to con people and engage in crimes without being held responsible. Now that Democrats control the House, we’re starting to see him being held responsible, and even these tentative steps show how unhinged Trump is and can be.

The reason for anonymity is simple: They want to play both sides. They want to set themselves up so that however things work out after Trump is gone, they will have a steady meal ticket for years to come. They’ll play the wingnut welfare circuit until they figure that isn’t getting them enough money or they’re outed as the “anonymous” author, at which time they’ll flip to saying how they were the “lone voice of reason” inside the WH walls.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:33:51am

re: #282 lawhawk

[… Now that Democrats control the House, we’re starting to see him being held responsible, and even these tentative steps show how unhinged Trump is and can be.

Imagine a different 2018 vote
Barely 1 year ago
How far we’ve come

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:38:21am
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sagehen  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:38:55am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:44:15am

A perspective

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John Hughes  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:46:07am

re: #103 danarchy

I have some issues with the wealth tax. There are reasons it has not been particularly successful in any of the countries where it has been attempted and generally ends up getting repealed

What do you mean by “not particularly successful”? How do you define “success”?

In the one case I have experience of* it was partially repealed because rich people didn’t like paying it. This has led to a fall in government revenues.

Also billionaires wealth generally isn’t particularly liquid. What happens to the market every april when every rich person in the country has to sell off 6% of their assets to pay their tax bill?

It’s only 6% for people worth as much as Bill Gates. For an ordinary billionaire it’s only 1.9% Source: https://elizabethwarren.com/calculator/ultra-millionaire-tax

Who determines total wealth? Does the IRS hire an army of new auditors to go through all the houses to tally up the value of artwork, stamp collections, coin collections, comic book collections, car collections and what not? It just seems fraught with problems to me.

Once again, using the only example I have experience of* the taxpayer declares how much he has. If the tax authorities think there is something fishy with the declaration they could audit the taxpayer, and anyone found to have been cheating would be in for a world of hurt.

(* I paid the French wealth tax, the ISF (Impot de Solidarite sur le Fortune), for 3 years. It was a pain the in the arse to calculate but I didn’t end up paying all that much because I’m only a millionaire, not a billionaire).

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:51:55am

re: #292 John Hughes

I think we could avoid the issues of a wealth tax such as they are by simply reverting the income tax brackets to a far more progressive scale. Hike the existing top rate back to 39.6%. Then add two new additional brackets that kick in at $10 million and $50 million.

At $10 million, the rate jumps to 45%. At $50 million, it jumps to 60%.

For those who don’t quite get what that means, if you make $100k a year, this has precisely zero effect on you. If you make $1 million a year, it again has zero effect.

If you make $10.5 million, the 45% only affects the $500k above $10m.

And reinstitute the estate tax on estates above $10 million. That pretty much excludes the so-called family farms and small businesses that the GOP consistently claims are harmed by the existence of this tax.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:52:37am

the trump foundation story barely made the front pages

for the 100th time; yes - this story would have ended any other presidency.

for the 1000th time; yes - if Obama had done this Lindsay Graham would be calling for his head on a platter.

maybe it’s just the massive volume of gish galloping or bulkshitting or whatever

or maybe it’s just that the trump cloud is a lying, cheating, incompetent, petty, criminal and utter presidential catastrophe. AND everyone on all sides knows it.

So nothing moves the needle anymore.

ps - We won’t be surprised if he even attempts to shoot someone on 5th avenue next. We’ve been primed to expect it.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:54:09am

re: #277 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

i used a left handed one of these for years (yes a lefty)

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i hate the movements necessary with conventional type mice

I’ve used one kind of trackball or another for years. My latest is a Kensington wireless model; they’ve gone with an optical trackball like the Logitechs in recent years.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 6:59:00am

re: #293 lawhawk

I think we could avoid the issues of a wealth tax such as they are by simply reverting the income tax brackets to a far more progressive scale. Hike the existing top rate back to 39.6%. Then add two new additional brackets that kick in at $10 million and $50 million.

At $10 million, the rate jumps to 45%. At $50 million, it jumps to 60%.

For those who don’t quite get what that means, if you make $100k a year, this has precisely zero effect on you. If you make $1 million a year, it again has zero effect.

If you make $10.5 million, the 45% only affects the $500k above $10m.

And reinstitute the estate tax on estates above $10 million. That pretty much excludes the so-called family farms and small businesses that the GOP consistently claims are harmed by the existence of this tax.

id be fine with all this. i actually think most would, including the 1% and above

you know why the magats wouldnt?
theoretically ‘one day’ they could hit that $10m or $50m mark

a tax word to the wise:
- you want more money in your pocket after taxes?
- consider the government (ie the irs) as a minority partner - earn more and keep most of it
you never save money by spending money to save taxes

even buying politicians only works for so long. and you’re buying them with after tax dollars

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:00:01am

re: #286 Belafon

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The disability community has known this fact for a long time, and we make it into gallows humor (“Oh, look, that little boy was born without a head, but he’s so HAPPY!!”)

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:00:12am

re: #288 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

Imagine a different 2018 vote
Barely 1 year ago
How far we’ve come

Had the GOP held onto the House, even by a thin sliver of the final vote, then we’d right now be watching the latest hearings into the “crimes” of the Biden family.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:01:46am

re: #298 Targetpractice

Had the GOP held onto the House, even by a thin sliver of the final vote, then we’d right now be watching the latest hearings into the “crimes” of the Biden family.

- every vote matters, every time
- when dems vote dems win
- vote blue no matter who

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:04:10am

re: #299 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

- every vote matters, every time
- when dems vote dems win
- vote blue no matter who

The running theme of the last three elections is that the deciding element in future elections will be turnout. Which is why the middle-of-the-road, “return to normal” tack of Joe and Pete is ultimately a loser, because turning votes is not as important as getting them out there to the polls.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:05:09am

re: #291 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

A perspective

As I describe it: If you hear someone saying they are saving the country, they are probably destroying it.

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lizardofid  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:05:36am

Good morning everyone,

Rickie Lee Jones is 65 today. Where does the time go?

Coolsville

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:06:26am

re: #302 lizardofid

Good morning everyone,

Rickie Lee Jones is 65 today. Where does the time go?

I remember seeing her on SNL for the first time, ca 1978/79

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:07:14am

re: #293 lawhawk

I think we could avoid the issues of a wealth tax such as they are by simply reverting the income tax brackets to a far more progressive scale. Hike the existing top rate back to 39.6%. Then add two new additional brackets that kick in at $10 million and $50 million.

At $10 million, the rate jumps to 45%. At $50 million, it jumps to 60%.

For those who don’t quite get what that means, if you make $100k a year, this has precisely zero effect on you. If you make $1 million a year, it again has zero effect.

If you make $10.5 million, the 45% only affects the $500k above $10m.

And reinstitute the estate tax on estates above $10 million. That pretty much excludes the so-called family farms and small businesses that the GOP consistently claims are harmed by the existence of this tax.

As long as we can get a few of the really wealthy to die over the next four years. Part of what Warren’s tax is trying to address is the problems we have now.

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lizardofid  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:07:30am

re: #301 Belafon

As I describe it: If you hear someone saying they are saving the country, they are probably destroying it.

I always wonder, “saving” it for who.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:10:23am

re: #105 Belafon

cnbc.com

… the people who have over $1B, which is where her tax would start, aren’t going to have to sell stuff off to stay at that level.

And if they do have to sell stuff? My tiny violin will get such a workout!
And if it depresses the prices of fine art etc. (Which were driven to the toposphere by score-keeping billionaires) maybe the art-loving hoi polloi can afford to have some in THEIR homes.

FCS, a billion dollars really is an absurd amount of wealth. Making do on a mere 900+ million is probably do-able.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:13:57am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

So, the trailer for Color Out Of Space (based on the famous short story by H.P. Lovecraft and starring Nick Cage) dropped and it looks interesting.

To be fair, it’s not easy adapting Lovecraft to cinema, but I’d say they made an effort on this one.

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I remember Jerry Sohl’s adaptation “Die, Monster, Die” with Karloff and Nick Adams. Scared me to death as a kid!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:15:38am

re: #307 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember Jerry Sohl’s adaptation “Die, Monster, Die” with Karloff and Nick Adams. Scared me to death as a kid!

I never saw that, but the name Nick Adams certainly rings a bell….IIRC, he starred in a few Japanese sci-fi flicks.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:15:46am

It only took me a month, and two shipments (thank you Ebay!) but I finally replaced the driver’s side mirror on my vehicle. Broke off due to galvanic corrosion and my manly he-man strength trying to fold it back (it doesn’t fold back, there is a button for that).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:16:14am

re: #300 Targetpractice

The running theme of the last three elections is that the deciding element in future elections will be turnout. Which is why the middle-of-the-road, “return to normal” tack of Joe and Pete is ultimately a loser, because turning votes is not as important as getting them out there to the polls.

I get why Joe thinks that way. I do not get why Pete who by far is the youngest and most nationally inexperienced running is running on this. I still remain undecided in the primary though I’m exhausted by Biden’s gimmick though I trust him the most on FP. Pete? Pete just frustrates the hell out of me at this point.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:20:55am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

I get why Joe thinks that way. I do not get why Pete who by far is the youngest and most nationally inexperienced running is running on this. I still remain undecided in the primary though I’m exhausted by Biden’s gimmick though I trust him the most on FP. Pete? Pete just frustrates the hell out of me at this point.

Honestly, I think Pete is trying to siphon off support from Biden’s flagging campaign in order to boost his own flagging campaign, the idea being that he’s younger and less weighed down by baggage than Joe is.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:22:31am

re: #241 Patricia Kayden

“Actually, just skip the words…..”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:23:51am

re: #311 Targetpractice

Honestly, I think Pete is trying to siphon off support from Biden’s flagging campaign in order to boost his own flagging campaign, the idea being that he’s younger and less weighed down by baggage than Joe is.

I think so too but I think he could do it without you know calling black people homophobic for not warming to him because they’re looking at his record. I’ll be honest here. I feel stuck in the middle in the economic arguments. I don’t like Sanders my way or the highway. And while I like Warren more, I understand that not everyone is in love with M4A either. But I’m also not fond of Biden’s “The Republicans will just act normal if I’m elected.”

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:23:56am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

I get why Joe thinks that way. I do not get why Pete who by far is the youngest and most nationally inexperienced running is running on this. I still remain undecided in the primary though I’m exhausted by Biden’s gimmick though I trust him the most on FP. Pete? Pete just frustrates the hell out of me at this point.

He was mayor in a place that is generally conservative. You tend to have to work with people who aren’t on your side politically, and that tends to make you think you can work with people if you just give them a chance. The problem is that view ignores what’s been happening to Democratic presidents over the last 30 years.

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:25:11am
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Dave In Austin  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:26:31am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:30:54am

re: #314 Belafon

He was mayor in a place that is generally conservative. You tend to have to work with people who aren’t on your side politically, and that tends to make you think you can work with people if you just give them a chance. The problem is that view ignores what’s been happening to Democratic presidents over the last 30 years.

Well conservative or not, he seems to have a huge blindspot on race. That’s in contrast with Beto who also represented a relatively conservative area compared to Liz and Bernie.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:31:53am

re: #315 lawhawk

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It’s much like why the “liberal press” is not asking where the testimony that would exonerate Trump is in the transcripts that Repubs demanded be made public. These stenographers are not asking questions, they’re just repeating whatever bad faith arguments are made by people who have absolutely no desire to see this inquiry go anywhere except in the bin.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:32:02am

re: #316 Dave In Austin

That sounds like Trump to me. But nah it’s just Rubio whining about Democrats since he’s a stupid asshole who thinks posting biblical verses makes him look wise.

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:33:03am

Media outlets have short attention spans and don’t quite grasp the significance of Trump admitting to wrongdoing in the Trump scam foundation case. Even in NY media they don’t get it.

This is the kind of story that should be front page above the fold, and yet, not so much.

Weird how that works. What was more important? Bloomberg threatening to run? John Legend deciding to rewrite Baby It’s Cold Outside (stale news at that), or other events of the day.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:33:11am

It seems Bevin might not have much support for overturning the election:

A growing number of Republican lawmakers are urging Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin, a fellow Republican, to either provide evidence of the voting “irregularities” he has alleged or concede Tuesday’s election to Gov.-elect Andy Beshear, who defeated him by 5,189 votes.

GOP Rep. John Blanton is a former state police officer who said he has heard rumors of election problems but no hard evidence.

“The last thing anyone wants to do is overturn a constitutional election,” Blanton said. “We want the will of the people to be done.”

msn.com

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:34:33am

re: #321 Belafon

Bevin is so much like a mirror of Trump in all the bad ways we’ve come to expect.

The party can’t stand him, but they wont actually come out and demand accountability. They’re fine with the policy choices, but find the guy detestable.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:34:38am

re: #320 lawhawk

Just a question: Would this have done anything to any other president other than force them to decide not to run for reelection?

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:34:47am

re: #321 Belafon

It seems Bevin might not have much support for overturning the election:

msn.com

Translation: “We need more than your word to put our own political careers in the shredder, asswipe!”

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:35:19am
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sagehen  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:38:46am

re: #306 Jebediah, RBG

And if they do have to sell stuff? My tiny violin will get such a workout!
And if it depresses the prices of fine art etc. (Which were driven to the toposphere by score-keeping billionaires) maybe the art-loving hoi polloi can afford to have some in THEIR homes.

FCS, a billion dollars really is an absurd amount of wealth. Making do on a mere 900+ million is probably do-able.

Donate the art to a museum. Tax deduction for whatever you spent on it in the first place, good public relations, and lots of people will see the work.

John Paul Getty hated his children; but the whole world is enriched that he spent his money on that museum.

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:39:32am

IIJM, or does all this wealth-tax talk bring recall memories from the dim days of yesteryear (way back in 2013) and Thomas Piketty’s Capital in the Twenty-First Century? Which, among all the other good points it outlined, did predict the looming problems of the over-accumulation of *wealth* in ever-fewer hands in developed economies. IIRC, Piketty’s solution to the toxic-accumulation issue was a sort of wealth tax: but, as I also recall, that conclusion was pretty much used - by the usual critics - to basically discredit the whole work. And - by the more-starboard-leaning - by slamming Piketty as a pinko commie ivory-tower statist; and worse - French: which to some critics was reason enough to completely dismiss C21 in and of itself….

Alors… Prophets with honor, etc. etc….

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:41:29am

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:42:00am

Anybody else remember all the talk since the first closed-door hearings about how “leaks” to the press about what went on in those hearings was “only” about the negative things that hurt Trump? That we were supposed to believe that all the testimony that would help Trump’s position was being suppressed by being kept secret and that Dems were “afraid” to release the transcripts because the public would see the “truth”?

Yeah, it’s funny how all that talk suddenly stopped, isn’t it?//////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:44:25am

moron is flailing

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:47:02am

re: #323 Belafon

A financial scandal and settlement admitting to criminal wrongdoing? The acts involved amount to felony conduct.

I’d say that under any other admin in our nation’s history you’d likely have 50/50 demand for resignation and about 90/100% chance of declining to run for reelection.

Nixon resigned rather than face actual impeachment (and was a 2d term situation).

Teapot Dome scandal under Harding ultimately empowered Congress to subpoena tax records of anyone regardless of position. Harding died during his first term and before the scope of the scandal came to light so that’s not a great analogy.

Iran Contra was during Reagan’s 2d term. Again, not a great analogy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:47:18am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:47:24am

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is flailing

Because the moral value and worth of a political candidate is whether he or she says “nice things” about Herr DrumpF

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:49:05am

re: #329 Targetpractice

Anybody else remember all the talk since the first closed-door hearings about how “leaks” to the press about what went on in those hearings was “only” about the negative things that hurt Trump? That we were supposed to believe that all the testimony that would help Trump’s position was being suppressed by being kept secret and that Dems were “afraid” to release the transcripts because the public would see the “truth”?

Yeah, it’s funny how all that talk suddenly stopped, isn’t it?//////

What About Do Process?!?!?!??!?!?! DJT needs to be able to attack, I mean confront, illegal Whistleblower!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:49:34am
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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:51:17am

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Does anybody want to point out the witch hunt that he’s conducting with Congressional Repubs to attack the whistleblower? Or the corrupt investigation his AG is waging to undermine the nation’s intel agencies?

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:52:05am

re: #331 lawhawk

Thanks. We tend to throw around “this would end any other administration” and while things like this would have caused an uproar - and if it were a Democrat and Republicans were in charge, they would have drawn up impeachment procedings before the end of the day - I just wonder if all of them actually would in isolation.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:53:25am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:54:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:55:45am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:55:49am

re: #272 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

reagan could act
he had no trouble ‘pretending’ he was out of the loop and clueless
(he was acting, right?)

trump otoh, has an ego and is mortally concerned with his image and social media presence. he simply will not let this line of defense happen

Also note this is the same page from the playbook as Christie’s staffers doing the bridge thing without his knowledge.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:56:17am
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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:56:46am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The reality is much simpler: Donny gets a chubby whenever he thinks people are stroking his ego, so being invited to yet another parade where he thinks he’ll be treated as a guest of honor sounds totally awesome to him.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:58:04am

re: #320 lawhawk

I have been a little busy, no blogging time, so forgive me if this is old news around here. On one hand great, but the fact we have fallen to the point of what is at heart a political speech from a judicial figure. Yikes. The bottom line though is glad to see this. The more pretzel twists the GOP goes through to attack trump critics the better.

Trump ‘violates all recognized democratic norms,’ federal judge says in biting speech on judicial independence
msn.com

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“We are in unchartered territory,” said Friedman, 75, an appointee of President Bill Clinton. “We are witnessing a chief executive who criticizes virtually every judicial decision that doesn’t go his way and denigrates judges who rule against him, sometimes in very personal terms. He seems to view the courts and the justice system as obstacles to be attacked and undermined, not as a coequal branch to be respected even when he disagrees with its decisions.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 7:58:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:06:32am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:07:19am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:07:37am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Thanks Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:07:46am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait. A Turkish-Russian military convoy???

When the fuck did that become a thing?

Either since Russia joined NATO or Turkey abandoned it…

which do you think is the more plausible?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:08:19am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:11:10am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s really tone deaf that he sees people who literally died and he thinks of his father’s shady business deals. Let’s call the Trumps what they are. Out of touch snobs who don’t know what sacrifices people make.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:13:21am

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Between him and Trump, the English speaking world’s leaders suck. Thankful for Trudeau.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:14:36am

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I have this to say to that fucking asshole.

My son was killed in Iraq.

SHUT THE FUCK UP TRUMP JR!!!!!!!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:16:26am

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lalalalalalalalalaal not a crime!

OK it is a crime but whistleblower is lying president needs Due process and to confront!

The only crime is whistleblower and ambassador betraying president!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:17:03am

re: #356 Joe Bacon 🌹

I have this to say to that fucking asshole.

My son was killed in Iraq.

SHUT THE FUCK UP TRUMP JR!!!!!!!!!!

He’s such a tone deaf douche. He really thinks the American people are here to serve his father.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:18:18am

All I can say is, whatever list of “witnesses” the GOP pukes out tomorrow is gonna be a hoot. When not a single member of the administration is willing to come forward and either vouch for their boss’ “innocence” or take the fall for him, the only thing left is to try to turn the whole inquiry into a three ring circus.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:18:43am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:19:00am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:19:44am

Do they not know she actually does have a degree in economics?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:19:51am

re: #359 Targetpractice

All I can say is, whatever list of “witnesses” the GOP pukes out tomorrow is gonna be a hoot. When not a single member of the administration is willing to come forward and either vouch for their boss’ “innocence” or take the fall for him, the only thing left is to try to turn the whole inquiry into a three ring circus.

But Biden!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:21:44am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:22:43am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:24:43am

re: #359 Targetpractice

All I can say is, whatever list of “witnesses” the GOP pukes out tomorrow is gonna be a hoot. When not a single member of the administration is willing to come forward and either vouch for their boss’ “innocence” or take the fall for him, the only thing left is to try to turn the whole inquiry into a three ring circus.

The GOP Witness List:

Lou Dobbs
Alex Jones
Diamond And Silk
Tucker Carlson
Rush Limbaugh
Bernie Kerik
Dennis Miller
Yakov Smirnoff
Jacob Wohl
Jack Burkman
Jon Voight
Dana Loesch
And Jesse Lee Peterson.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:26:14am

re: #365 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Truth, comrades. Some fanatics go so far as to sacrifice their own homes by burning them down with purpose-designed incendiary device known as “turkey fryer.”

And those who do not burn down their own homes wind up wrecking domestic harmony in the family for the rest of the year by arguing with drunken uncles about Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:26:53am

re: #362 Ace-o-aces

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Do they not know she actually does have a degree in economics?

You know Don Jr really shouldn’t be calling anyone stupid.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:27:52am

re: #366 Joe Bacon 🌹

The GOP Witness List:

Lou Dobbs
Alex Jones
Diamond And Silk
Tucker Carlson
Rush Limbaugh
Bernie Kerik
Dennis Miller
Yakov Smirnoff
Jacob Wohl
Jack Burkman
Jon Voight
Dana Loesch
And Jesse Lee Peterson.

Nah, they’re going the exact opposite direction, with the first named on the list likely to be

Adam Schiff
The Whistleblower
Hunter Biden
Joe Biden

The former two are totally about presenting the idea that this whole thing is a “hoax” cooked up by or coordinated through Schiff’s office between Schiff and a totally lying CIA operative. And the latter two are (of course) about trying to flip the script into turning the whole thing into the very investigation that Donny wanted into the Bidens for their “crimes.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:27:57am

Oh and Sunny went to that liberal bastion of law schools- Notre Dame which was actually earned unlike anything any member of the Trump family.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:28:56am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:29:23am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They really think Diamond and Silk and Candice Owens insulting black voters intelligence is a winning strategy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:30:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:31:30am

re: #366 Joe Bacon 🌹

The GOP Witness List:

Lou Dobbs
Alex Jones
Diamond And Silk
Tucker Carlson
Rush Limbaugh
Bernie Kerik
Dennis Miller
Yakov Smirnoff
Jacob Wohl
Jack Burkman
Jon Voight
Dana Loesch
And Jesse Lee Peterson.

You forgot Sean Hannity

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:31:46am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

Oh and Sunny went to that liberal bastion of law schools- Notre Dame which was actually earned unlike anything any member of the Trump family.

It’s pretty obvious why Jr thinks she’s dumb, and it’s something he learned from his father.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:32:41am

re: #375 Belafon

It’s pretty obvious why Jr thinks she’s dumb, and it’s something he learned from his father.

Yep. Meanwhile Don Jr doesn’t know his ass from his face.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:32:41am

re: #372 HappyWarrior

They really think Diamond and Silk and Candice Owens insulting black voters intelligence is a winning strategy.

Nah, it’s more about self-affirmation these days than anything else, putting up some low-rent grifters as “proof” that the party still has appeal to black voters. And that the reason they still fail to bring in more than those black folks with money enough to think they’re immune from the party’s racism is because the Dems have the whole of Black America “on a plantation.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:36:07am

re: #374 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You forgot Sean Hannity

He’s claiming Executive Privilege!

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John Hughes  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:36:13am

re: #261 Patricia Kayden

But Corbyn is accused of suborning anti-Semitism.

Accused.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:39:15am

re: #377 Targetpractice

Nah, it’s more about self-affirmation these days than anything else, putting up some low-rent grifters as “proof” that the party still has appeal to black voters. And that the reason they still fail to bring in more than those black folks with money enough to think they’re immune from the party’s racism is because the Dems have the whole of Black America “on a plantation.”

True. It’s a ploy to people like my wingnut cousins who know nothing of history who think they can use the way the parties were in Lincoln’s day to tell Black people they should vote Republican.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:43:05am

re: #379 John Hughes

Accused.

If you buy the argument “Anti-Israeli government policy = Anti-Semite”, then he is guilty…

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:48:22am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

Yep. Meanwhile Don Jr doesn’t know his ass from his face.

To be fair, that is a difficult distinction to make.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:51:11am

re: #382 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

To be fair, that is a difficult distinction to make.

Haha that is true.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:53:17am

Lulz

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:56:16am

re: #384 GlutenFreeJesus

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Lulz

Didn’t we hear complaints that they were being too secret just last week? FFS dude, we know his beef.His beef is that you’re getting impeached at all. And you know what? He deserves it. He’s the one who has acted like a criminal every minute of his Presidency and utterly uninterested in anything that doesn’t line his or his family’s fat pockets.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 8:58:35am

This is amazing. These hand-built cutaway models of the Titanic, the Lusitania and the Normandie were all built by Father Roberto Pirrone and are (or were when this video was posted last year) on display on the Queen Mary.

Titanic, Lusitania, and Normandie Cutaways on the Queen Mary

Wow.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:00:28am

re: #306 Jebediah, RBG

And if they do have to sell stuff? My tiny violin will get such a workout!
And if it depresses the prices of fine art etc. (Which were driven to the toposphere by score-keeping billionaires) maybe the art-loving hoi polloi can afford to have some in THEIR homes.

FCS, a billion dollars really is an absurd amount of wealth. Making do on a mere 900+ million is probably do-able.

to put it another way, we should not necessarily be taxing people with that kind of wealth and income under the same system that we tax 50k a year salaried workers who have nothing left over to save

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:03:49am

Back in a bit - gotta go pick something up.

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:04:05am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So this is Bevin’s (totally lame and totally predictable) “charge” of “election irregularities”?
That Alison Grimes has the temerity to:
1. Count up votes accurately.
2. Announce results that Matt Bevin doesn’t like.
3. (The worst offense) Occupy a KY state office while being a Democrat.

Just wonder why it took him so long.
But not wondering why even the GOP is starting to balk at enabling Bevin’s stupid shenanigans.

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gocart mozart  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:05:04am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:08:23am

re: #389 Jay C

So this is Bevin’s (totally lame and totally predictable) “charge” of “election irregularities”?
That Alison Grimes has the temerity to:
1. Count up votes accurately.
2. Announce results that Matt Bevin doesn’t like.
3. (The worst offense) Occupy a KY state office while being a Democrat.

Just wonder why it took him so long.
But not wondering why even the GOP is starting to balk at enabling Bevin’s stupid shenanigans.

I’m hoping that Bevin being an all around crap person will make it easier for Republicans in Frankfort to tell him that he’s history.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:10:15am

re: #194 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Dew eye no ewe?

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:10:25am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

It appears that’s the case.

In which case, the GOP in KY are more principled than the GOP in Congress? That’s a fucked up situation.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:12:14am

re: #393 lawhawk

It appears that’s the case.

In which case, the GOP in KY are more principled than the GOP in Congress? That’s a fucked up situation.

It really is. We’ve had close elections here and I don’t blame necessarily blame Bevin for wanting to make sure all the votes are counted but it’s obvious to me that this is pure sour grapes too. Think he would take it well if the roles were reversed?

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:14:20am

re: #393 lawhawk

It appears that’s the case.

In which case, the GOP in KY are more principled than the GOP in Congress? That’s a fucked up situation.

Not by much. Really, the whole situation is a harbinger of things to come, as Donny will likely follow the same script of asserting that his loss was due to “fraud” and insist that Dems at the state level are trying to rob him of his “victory.” The truly frightening reality is that, unlike Bevin, Trump has poorly defined “emergency powers” that he could use to basically nullify the election and keep himself in office for life.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:16:03am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:24:39am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:26:41am

re: #397 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Oh they must know that Black Republican group that noted black person Sean Hannity is a board member of.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:27:21am

Note to Republicans. If you have a group for a minority group, don’t stack the board with people who were friend with Hal Turner.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:29:18am

More dumb bad stuff for Trump:

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:29:38am

re: #393 lawhawk

re: #395 Targetpractice

re: #394 HappyWarrior

I get the distinct feeling that the KY GOP’s apparent reluctance to back Gov. Bevin in his asinine election-theft attempt is due way less to a sudden rediscovery of a sense of political ethics, and due more to the likelihood that any such maneuver would probably be shot down in short order by (?) the KY Supreme Court - who, I am guessing, are the last word on in-state election disputes (?). I can see a 530-vote margin (a la Florida 2000) raising questions and needing a recount. 5300 votes, though? Baseless “fraud” charges from a pissed-off loser probably aren’t grounds enough to overcome.

And Matt Bevin being, reportedly, a hugely disliked asshole (even by Republican standards) doesn’t help.

ADD: Although the results are not yet listed on the KY Board of Elections’ website as “certified”, the numbers they have are as follows:

Beshear (D) 709,577
Bevin (R) 704,388
Hicks (L) 28,475 Total: 1,442,390

Winning margin is thus 5,189

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:30:16am

re: #397 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Reminds me of this:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:32:02am

re: #398 HappyWarrior

Oh they must know that Black Republican group that noted black person Sean Hannity is a board member of.

Well, Hannity’s heart has always been suspected to be black.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:35:44am

Big sea puppa wants to play too.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:36:56am

re: #397 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

forget the idiotic blacks for trump fora moment

they think this is the way you participate in government
- by dressing up
- by attending ‘rallies’

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:41:32am

Awarding winners now, when you failed to do so in any of your prior meet/greet efforts doesn’t eliminate the criminal act - fraud - of those earlier acts.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:43:36am

A professional referee says in a lawsuit that disgraced doctor Richard Strauss masturbated in front of him in a shower after a wrestling match at Ohio State University, and he reported the encounter directly to Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) who was then the assistant coach,” NBC News reports.

- Rep. Gym remains in congress

- Katie Hill resigned

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:44:51am

Who would have imagined a pathological liar would also be a pathological frauder.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:45:14am

re: #406 lawhawk

Awarding winners now, when you failed to do so in any of your prior meet/greet efforts doesn’t eliminate the criminal act - fraud - of those earlier acts.

Hey look, reporters, you can do investigative journalism that has an impact. Get on it.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:45:21am

re: #404 Scottish Dragon

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Big sea puppa wants to play too.

“I’m not playing catch, I’m returning your trash that you threw out; why do you keep throwing it back in?”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:47:02am

re: #407 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

- Rep. Gym remains in congress

- Katie Hill resigned

One has a moral compass.

The other does not.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:47:04am

re: #407 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

- Rep. Gym remains in congress

- Katie Hill resigned

further,

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:49:49am

I propose we use LTSI to save some space on all the Let This Sink Ins.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:50:03am

What the …. Oddly compelling, tho

CHAI: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:50:44am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

So, the trailer for Color Out Of Space (based on the famous short story by H.P. Lovecraft and starring Nick Cage) dropped and it looks interesting.

To be fair, it’s not easy adapting Lovecraft to cinema, but I’d say they made an effort on this one.

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Video

Ha, that was Tommy Chong.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:55:54am

re: #410 Barefoot Grin

“I’m not playing catch, I’m returning your trash that you threw out; why do you keep throwing it back in?”

heh!

Obvious though that the whale is having fun and being sociable. What an amazing thing to be able to do.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:57:24am

“It’s the illegal immigrants voting!”

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:57:52am
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:58:24am

re: #221 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

“House Republicans’ latest plan to shield President Trump from impeachment is to focus on at least three deputies — Ambassador Gordon Sondland, Rudy Giuliani, and possibly acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney — who they say could have acted on their own to influence Ukraine policy,” the Washington Post reports.

occam - what makes more sense
- three guys with no real axes to grind with Joe Biden went rogue and risked their careers and reputations to manipulate foreign policy for no apparent reason
- a president with no moral scruples, under the influence of Ukraine’s enemies and deeply fearful of Joe Biden, manipulated foreign policy for his own political survival?

further

- it’s obvious that trump ends up knifing everyone to take the blame for his own actions
- even when they were following his orders
- he’s already scared away the last few qualified people in the job pool.
- If he actually won in 2020, how would he staff the next 4 years, let alone the next 12 months

can they keep scraping the barrel? are there that many career suicidal R’s left?

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:59:14am

I’m amazed that the GOP hasn’t come out to claim that the allegations that Jordan again ignored his duty to report sex predator at OSU is part of an effort to silence and force Jordan from Congress. After all, Jordan’s one of Trump’s loudest bootlickers/sycophants pushing Trump’s defense in the House.

Maybe it’s because they know the allegations are accurate, true, and that Jordan is scum. Or Trump hasn’t figured out what this does for Trump.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 9:59:46am
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:00:12am

re: #417 DodgerFan1988

you know what, trump ‘claims’ his ukraine call was ‘perfect’
his own facts dont bear that out

‘has claimed’ is real weak sauce absent, you know, ….anything

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:00:19am

re: #414 Barefoot Grin

What the …. Oddly compelling, tho

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Video

Sort of reminds me of Tom Tom Club.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:00:58am

Trump also wants to go to the May Day parade because he expects the Russians to fucking worship him there.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:02:06am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

Like the barbarian chiefs exhibited in a Roman triumph.

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:03:39am

Vindman’s testimony is now available….

and nearly all of it is bad for Trumpworld.

Tried embedding the pdf, but it wasn’t having any of it…

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:04:00am

re: #417 DodgerFan1988

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“It’s the illegal immigrants voting!”

Easiest explanation is that the KY GOP are backpeddling madly because nobody other than the craziest of their supporters think that overturning a legitimate election result to keep a deeply unpopular governor in office is a good idea.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:04:19am

re: #425 jaunte

Like the barbarian chiefs exhibited in a Roman triumph.

At least the barbarian chiefs knew they were exhibits. Trump really is the kind of guy who would get cheers from a crowd in Russia and complain about why he’s not “respected” like this at home.

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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:05:53am

If he attends the parade, he’s gonna come back whining that Russia pulled off a bigger parade that he did this past 4th of July and demanding the DOD find a way to drive tanks down Penn Ave, even if it means tearing up the road in the process.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:06:04am

Donaldus The Unaware

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:07:46am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump also wants to go to the May Day parade because he expects the Russians to fucking worship him there.

Well, if the May Day parade includes a nice line-up of Russian weaponry then putting Trump in an open limo right at the front of the line would be quite appropriate with the usual practices.

The podium is saved for showing those who have influence in Russia and perhaps the approximate current pecking order.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:09:30am

re: #425 jaunte

Like the barbarian chiefs exhibited in a Roman triumph.

And just like the fall of Rome, Caligula and Nero all wrapped up in one obese package, will watch the US burn. No fiddle this time.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:09:58am

re: #425 jaunte

Like the barbarian chiefs exhibited in a Roman triumph.

Before they were ritually strangled.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:10:23am

re: #277 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

i used a left handed one of these for years (yes a lefty)

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i hate the movements necessary with conventional type mice

Been using one like the second for years. Love it. Got one for my son last spring when his expensive “gaming” mouse died and he’s loving it too.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:10:31am

re: #429 Targetpractice

If he attends the parade, he’s gonna come back whining that Russia pulled off a bigger parade that he did this past 4th of July and demanding the DOD find a way to drive tanks down Penn Ave, even if it means tearing up the road in the process.

The DoD should tell him we’ve developed stealth technology, and to truly see them, Trump has to wear special VR goggles.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:10:53am

re: #430 jaunte

Donaldus The Unaware

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:10:56am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump also wants to go to the May Day parade because he expects the Russians to fucking worship him there.

Think he knows when it is?
Or does he think it’s named after that famous General May?

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:12:00am

Hey EC! How’d it go last night?

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:12:42am

re: #426 lawhawk

Vindman’s testimony is now available….

and nearly all of it is bad for Trumpworld.

Tried embedding the pdf, but it wasn’t having any of it…

So all that exposing trump talked about…anytime now, right?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:13:06am

I’m just imagining how well it would go over with the usual suspects if any Democrat announced their intention to spend May Day in Moscow.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:14:41am

re: #427 Targetpractice

Easiest explanation is that the KY GOP are backpeddling madly because* nobody other than the craziest of their supporters think that overturning a legitimate election result to keep a deeply unpopular governor in office is a good idea.

* They didn’t think they could get away with it

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:14:57am

re: #419 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

- If he actually won in 2020, how would he staff the next 4 years, let alone the next 12 months

can they keep scraping the barrel? are there that many career suicidal R’s left?

Maybe he can tie it in to a scam like his last “Dinner with Trump” lottery? Donors to the Trump 2020 campaign will get a numbered receipt for their contributions: and if he wins, they will pull numbers at random for government positions.

A seat on the National Security Council?
Assistant Secretary of State?
Federal judgeship?

YOU TOO can be a part of it! Citizen participation in government! Isn’t democracy great??!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:17:19am

re: #442 Jay C

Maybe he can tie it in to a scam like his last “Dinner with Trump” lottery? Donors to the Trump 2020 campaign will get a numbered receipt for their contributions: and if he wins, they will pull numbers at random for government positions.

A seat on the National Security Council?
Assistant Secretary of State?
Federal judgeship?

YOU TOO can be a part of it! Citizen participation in government! Isn’t democracy great??!!

I’m putting Bob in charge of the Bureau of Mines. Bob works in a coal mine and he wants to MAGA. Anyone who opposes Bob is an elitist. //

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:17:38am

re: #438 William Lewis

Hey EC! How’d it go last night?

Thanks for asking. Everything went really well. Not perfect, but really as about as well as could be expected for a first time. Everyone in the congregation seemed to think I did a good job which was reassuring because while I personally thought I did okay I tend to be REALLY harsh on myself so the positive feedback from others was nice.

So hopefully I’ll be back in the pulpit soon.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:17:43am

I’m wondering if the half-wit had any understanding of May Day in the rest of the world? Celebrating a day that is about workers should incense him and his followers.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:17:56am
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TedStriker  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:18:09am

re: #437 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

Think he knows when it is?
Or does he think it’s named after that famous General May?

I’d say ‘James May’, but the dolt doesn’t know who that is either.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:20:31am

re: #442 Jay C

Maybe he can tie it in to a scam like his last “Dinner with Trump” lottery? Donors to the Trump 2020 campaign will get a numbered receipt for their contributions: and if he wins, they will pull numbers at random for government positions.

A seat on the National Security Council?
Assistant Secretary of State?
Federal judgeship?

YOU TOO can be a part of it! Citizen participation in government! Isn’t democracy great??!!

Ya think he * hasn’t* already discussed that with Burnett?

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:20:42am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:20:47am

re: #444 Eclectic Cyborg

Thanks for asking. Everything went really well. Not perfect, but really as about as well as could be expected for a first time. Everyone in the congregation seemed to think I did a good job which was reassuring because while I personally thought I did okay I tend to be REALLY harsh on myself so the positive feedback from others was nice.

So hopefully I’ll be back in the pulpit soon.

Glad it went well. I remember my first time really speaking before a group of people. I was nervous as hell. I still get family members that tell me that put them in awe since they felt they couldn’t have done it themselves. (It was our Nana’s wake and there was a lot of people there.).

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:21:43am

re: #446 jaunte

May Day is not same as V-E Day.

What a dumbass.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:22:28am

re: #449 lawhawk

Well Trump also added a woman he’s credibly accused of bribing to his defense team. Really if you honestly believe Trump is innocent, you should be wondering who the fuck is advising him. Because these aren’t the actions of someone interested in a vigorous defense but more interested in a clown show. I really hope Jordan’s constituents are getting fed up with the fact that he represents Trump more than them but then again I know a lot of people in this country would eat dog shit if Trump told them it was good.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:23:01am

re: #444 Eclectic Cyborg

Thanks for asking. Everything went really well. Not perfect, but really as about as well as could be expected for a first time. Everyone in the congregation seemed to think I did a good job which was reassuring because while I personally thought I did okay I tend to be REALLY harsh on myself so the positive feedback from others was nice.

So hopefully I’ll be back in the pulpit soon.

Sorta like a bar mitzvah without the stuffed derma

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:23:55am

re: #452 HappyWarrior

Clown: “What’s wrong with a bigger clown show?”

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:25:52am
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Stanley Sea  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:27:21am
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Stanley Sea  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:29:12am

Looks like crazy grandpa potus tried to hide the conspiracy theories.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:29:15am
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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:29:17am
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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:30:20am
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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:35:42am

This is what happens when you buy your ambassadorship and don’t have the moral compass to recognize what you’re doing might be criminal.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:36:29am

OK, just picked up the new keyboard, a Microsoft Comfort keyboard. It is different….but I suppose I’ll get used to it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:36:39am

re: #354 HappyWarrior

It’s really tone deaf that he sees people who literally died and he thinks of his father’s shady business deals. Let’s call the Trumps what they are. Out of touch snobs who don’t know what sacrifices people make.

No — they are classless petty grifters who struck it big and Don Jr is learning the tools of the trade so he can pick up after his father leaves the world stage. They are arrogant from learning how gullible the average American is. They know that if you repeat a lie often enough it will be treated as truth by too many voters out there, especially those who find themselves listening to Sinclair radio, Limbaugh, and Faux News. These voters have brains that filter out any news that does not comport with their ideology.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:39:24am

re: #463 Hecuba’s daughter

No — they are classless petty grifters who struck it big and Don Jr is learning the tools of the trade so he can pick up after his father leaves the world stage. They are arrogant from learning how gullible the average American is. They know that if you repeat a lie often enough it will be treated as truth by too many voters out there, especially those who find themselves listening to Sinclair radio, Limbaugh, and Faux News. These voters have brains that filter out any news that does not comport with their ideology.

Just think: Chilren of highly successful people are rarely as good as their parents, and Trump is highly qualified at conning the marks.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:39:55am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:40:42am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump also wants to go to the May Day parade because he expects the Russians to fucking worship him there.

If only Xi Jinping had invited Donny to their big October 1st shindig this year, with a full military parade, and had Trump stand at the podium taking the salute from the PLA, I can damn near guarantee you that Trump would’ve given him not only Hong Kong, but Taiwan, Hawai’i, California, Oregon and Washington to boot.

A missed opportunity on China’s part.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:45:28am

The brains-in-vats people at UCSD are desperate for us not to call them brains in vats:

Neural Organoids Are Not Brains in Vats with Evan Thompson

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:45:55am

Rudy Giuliani’s indicted pals were scheduled to be in Kyiv last month when they were arrested at Washington-Dulles International Airport, TPM has confirmed with their Ukraine lawyer.

It was previously known that Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman had one-way tickets to Vienna via Frankfurt when they were arrested by the FBI on Oct. 9 on campaign finance charges. It has not been reported before now that they were scheduled to subsequently be in Kyiv. Vienna, a common connecting city for air travelers from the United States to Kyiv, has five flights a day to the Ukrainian capital.

Alina Samarets, a Kyiv attorney representing Parnas and Fruman in a dispute with a Ukrainian oligarch, told TPM that the pair had planned on traveling to Kyiv for an Oct. 13 meeting with Ukrainian investigators.

“They were planning on going before they were arrested,” she said in a phone call from Kyiv, adding that she had not been in touch with them since their arrests.

talkingpointsmemo.com

RUDY, YOU GOT SOME ‘SPLAINING TO DO….

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:46:34am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:47:07am

re: #467 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The brains-in-vats people at UCSD are desperate for us not to call them brains in vats:

[Embedded content]

Haven’t we seen this movie? It never ends well for the human race.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:47:18am

re: #467 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The brains-in-vats people at UCSD are desperate for us not to call them brains in vats:

[Embedded content]

Well, we don’t call fetuses people.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:47:35am

re: #468 Joe Bacon 🌹

Rudy Giuliani’s indicted pals were scheduled to be in Kyiv last month when they were arrested at Washington-Dulles International Airport, TPM has confirmed with their Ukraine lawyer.

It was previously known that Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman had one-way tickets to Vienna via Frankfurt when they were arrested by the FBI on Oct. 9 on campaign finance charges. It has not been reported before now that they were scheduled to subsequently be in Kyiv. Vienna, a common connecting city for air travelers from the United States to Kyiv, has five flights a day to the Ukrainian capital.

Alina Samarets, a Kyiv attorney representing Parnas and Fruman in a dispute with a Ukrainian oligarch, told TPM that the pair had planned on traveling to Kyiv for an Oct. 13 meeting with Ukrainian investigators.

“They were planning on going before they were arrested,” she said in a phone call from Kyiv, adding that she had not been in touch with them since their arrests.

talkingpointsmemo.com

RUDY, YOU GOT SOME ‘SPLAINING TO DO….

Fargo Flee

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:48:24am

re: #461 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

This is what happens when you buy your ambassadorship and don’t have the moral compass to recognize what you’re doing might be criminal.

im gonna say sorry but screw moral compass.
you cant apply a moral compass if you havent read the manual
this is far more basic than that.

this is what happens when you:
- have no idea what the job is
- have no idea how anything works
- have no idea what the rules are
- dont include, inform, consult, rely, and trust seasoned career staff
- or even know where they keep the dish soap

- sondland was a rich entitled prick who bought an ambassadorship and was in way way over his head.
- proof? it’s staring us in the face: Ukraine-gate, -ghazi, -contra, -dome
- its not just shaking hands and going to dinners and shuffling papers for a few years. - Stuff like this shit, intrigue happens

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:52:15am

re: #467 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The brains-in-vats people at UCSD are desperate for us not to call them brains in vats:

[Embedded content]

Abby Normal may have a few comments on that matter…..

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:52:48am

I’m reading The Road to Unfreedom by Timothy Snyder right now. Hosting Trump at the Russian festival of Russian-ness would be a supreme triumph of Putin’s quest to undermine America, NATO, and the belief that Ukraine is a sovereign nation and not an historical appendage of Russia.

Sorry, forgot to make the link—that’s my take from reading Snyder.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 8, 2019 • 10:55:24am

re: #473 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

…….

this is what happens when you:
- have no idea what the job is
- have no idea how anything works
- have no idea what the rules are
- dont include, inform, consult, rely, and trust seasoned career staff
- or even know where they keep the dish soap

- sondland was a rich entitled prick who bought an ambassadorship and was in way way over his head.
……

Sondland’s not the first one and, sadly, probably won’t be last one but at least prior administrations had seasoned staff to assist. Hasn’t the State Department been so hollowed out that he may have had nowhere to go for guidance? Or perhaps, it’s part of the arrogance of wealthy (and Republicans in general) who are totally contemptuous of civil servants and are sure that everyone in the private sector is more knowledgeable than anyone who deigns to work for the government.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:05:29am

re: #328 Scottish Dragon

K8DT3JqiAqaLAmQvqMeJR7yQiYwyuXcfQcUPA3Obf64iYTMf3WmhLw==

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:10:11am

What a crock of sh*t. Ben shares a lot of Alt-Right bigoted views on race & IQ’s, anti-immigration, anti-LGBT rights, and anti-feminism. The only issue he has is with them is their anti-semitism.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:12:02am

re: #477 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

UMzlvsF8vBeuLf1jbCJ8AhibNWlf5YPV

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:12:42am

re: #473 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

im gonna say sorry but screw moral compass.
you cant apply a moral compass if you havent read the manual
this is far more basic than that.

this is what happens when you:
- have no idea what the job is
- have no idea how anything works
- have no idea what the rules are
- dont include, inform, consult, rely, and trust seasoned career staff
- or even know where they keep the dish soap

- sondland was a rich entitled prick who bought an ambassadorship and was in way way over his head.
- proof? it’s staring us in the face: Ukraine-gate, -ghazi, -contra, -dome
- its not just shaking hands and going to dinners and shuffling papers for a few years. - Stuff like this shit, intrigue happens

He might not have understood the job, but man was he ever on top of the renovations at his ambassador digs.

Gordon Sondland, Trump envoy and key figure in impeachment probe, faces criticism over $1 million taxpayer-funded home renovation

washingtonpost.com

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:15:17am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:16:03am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:17:12am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:17:23am

I wrote yesterday that a previously-unidentified Jane Doe found dead in the state of Wisconsin had been identified…here’s the story.

journaltimes.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:19:46am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:22:10am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:24:55am

re: #366 Joe Bacon 🌹

The GOP Witness List:

Lou Dobbs
Alex Jones
….

Speaking of Alex Jones…how’s Roger Stone’s trial going? :-)

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:27:39am

“Absent yourself” should be trending bigly soon:

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:28:45am

re: #487 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Bannon is being sworn in to testify…wearing layered black shirts…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:29:23am

re: #430 jaunte

Donaldus The Unaware

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:30:12am

re: #489 lawhawk

Bannon is being sworn in to testify…wearing layered black shirts…

[Embedded content]

Really playing up that “prince of darkness” image he’s tried to cultivate.

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:30:58am

re: #488 Barefoot Grin

“Absent yourself” should be trending bigly soon:

[Embedded content]

Is “absent” a mis-transliteration for “go fuck”???

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:32:14am

re: #492 Jay C

Is “absent” a mis-transliteration for “go fuck”???

Schiff is far too polite sometimes.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:32:58am

re: #476 Hecuba’s daughter

Sondland’s not the first one and, sadly, probably won’t be last one but at least prior administrations had seasoned staff to assist. Hasn’t the State Department been so hollowed out that he may have had nowhere to go for guidance? Or perhaps, it’s part of the arrogance of wealthy (and Republicans in general) who are totally contemptuous of civil servants and are sure that everyone in the private sector is more knowledgeable than anyone who deigns to work for the government.

yup

you ‘fall into’ a gig like this and nothing goes wrong that doesnt make you a pro

it means you got lucky

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:34:27am

re: #480 BeachDem

He might not have understood the job, but man was he ever on top of the renovations at his ambassador digs.

Gordon Sondland, Trump envoy and key figure in impeachment probe, faces criticism over $1 million taxpayer-funded home renovation

washingtonpost.com

thats the point - knew how to manipulate the perks for personal benefit/comfort

didnt know the a, b, c’s of the job

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:35:32am

re: #445 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I’m wondering if the half-wit had any understanding of May Day in the rest of the world? Celebrating a day that is about workers should incense him and his followers.

and the May Day parade isn’t the one with the tanks

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:35:35am

re: #478 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

What a crock of sh*t. Ben shares a lot of Alt-Right bigoted views on race & IQ’s, anti-immigration, anti-LGBT rights, and anti-feminism. The only issue he has is with them is their anti-semitism.

Karma will bite Shapiro in the ass.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:37:38am

re: #487 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Speaking of Alex Jones…how’s Roger Stone’s trial going? :-)

Bannon is apparently up at bat.

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:38:11am

Reload - added the following:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:41:12am

re: #489 lawhawk

Bannon is being sworn in to testify…wearing layered black shirts…

[Embedded content]

This guy/gal is live tweeting Bannon’s testimony.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:47:31am

re: #484 Dr Lizardo

I wrote yesterday that a previously-unidentified Jane Doe found dead in the state of Wisconsin had been identified…here’s the story.

journaltimes.com

holy shit

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:49:03am
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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:49:26am

Good idea!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:52:41am

re: #493 Barefoot Grin

Schiff is far too polite sometimes.

Yes, but I do believe is he rapidly running out of patience with Republican shenanigans and has few fucks left to give.

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:52:44am
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NetworkKed  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:53:07am

So I won’t bring this up too often, but my favorite charity online marathon event of the year started this morning.

Desert Bus For Hope is a fundraiser where a Canadian internet comedy troupe spend a week playing the most boring video game ever - continuously until the donations don’t meet the (slowly escalating) hourly goals. It’s a relatively friendly and affirming place, that tends to get progressively sillier as everyone gets settled into their shifts for the long (150+ hours) haul. Effectively it’s a gaming (tabletop/MTG/video gaming/Twitch)-themed variety show, with giveaways and auctions of various sorts.

desertbus.org
twitch.tv

The money goes directly to Child’s Play, which provides video games and other toys to children’s hospitals and (more recently) domestic violence shelters worldwide.

childsplaycharity.org

(edit:grammar)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:54:07am

re: #501 Stanley Sea

holy shit

Wow, a female murder suspect. That’s not that common.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:58:14am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2019 • 11:59:33am

re: #508 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow, he changed his tune pretty quick, didn’t he?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2019 • 12:00:14pm

re: #509 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow, he changed his tune pretty quick, didn’t he?

all those angry telephone calls worked

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 8, 2019 • 12:01:46pm

re: #467 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The brains-in-vats people at UCSD are desperate for us not to call them brains in vats:

[Embedded content]

Scientific American had a write up in a past issue about these brains. Sounded pretty cool.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 8, 2019 • 12:02:42pm

re: #470 Hecuba’s daughter

Haven’t we seen this movie? It never ends well for the human race.

2050 horror movie “They Saved Trump’s Brain”?

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calochortus  Nov 8, 2019 • 12:03:20pm

re: #509 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow, he changed his tune pretty quick, didn’t he?

Most Freepers gave up on Bevin yesterday.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 12:09:41pm

re: #484 Dr Lizardo

I wrote yesterday that a previously-unidentified Jane Doe found dead in the state of Wisconsin had been identified…here’s the story.

journaltimes.com

the ‘husband’ knew and did nothing about it
obviously knew about the ‘conditions’ during the previous 5 years as well

people suck

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 8, 2019 • 12:14:52pm

re: #502 lawhawk

this is pointless

if you wont testify without a judge’s ok, writing the house and dangling dirt accomplishes nothing

adding a new case would obviously take longer than all those already pending

if the judge decides against mcghan and for the house you gonna respect that or argue it doesnt cover bolton?

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Alephnaught  Nov 8, 2019 • 2:21:04pm

re: #451 lawhawk

May Day is not same as V-E Day.

What a dumbass.

Yeah, the clue is in “May”. WW2 certainly did not end in May.

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John Hughes  Nov 8, 2019 • 3:59:49pm

re: #516 Alephnaught

Uh, VE day is the 8th of May. Russia celebrates it on the 9th.


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