Seth takes a closer look at the first public hearings in the impeachment inquiry and the major new bombshell about President Trump’s involvement in the Ukraine scandal.
This should keep Ivanka inline
She doesn’t want daddy getting any ideas
The king’s official mistress has been stripped of all titles and honours for “ingratitude, misbehaviour and disloyalty” https://t.co/aBIpn6cBi6
— The Economist (@TheEconomist) November 14, 2019
I just saw an ad for some cruise line, using Jefferson Airplane’s “White Rabbit” as the theme music. Mrs FBW pointed out, “That’s about a drug trip!”
i thought, “What’s next? An ad for Georgia peaches using” Strange Fruit “?
re: #2 Blind Frog Belly White
I just saw an ad for some cruise line, using Jefferson Airplane’s “White Rabbit” as the theme music. Mrs FBW pointed out, “That’s about a drug trip!”
Grace Slick is 80.
Giuliani claims the same thing! The anti-Semitic conspiracy theory underlining all this hasn’t gotten enough attention.https://t.co/i0y6thLVSe https://t.co/GfEqlKayWy pic.twitter.com/LC3vq2Zz54
— Michelle Goldberg (@michelleinbklyn) November 14, 2019
I’ve been at a loss for words all day considering the developments and the NPR panel I just heard that FUCKING BOTHSIDERED AGAIN.
So I’ll go to bed by noting that I’m almost as much triggered by Joe DiGenova’s ca. 1970s key-bowl swinger look as I am by Gym Jordan’s “I’m not wearing a jacket because I mean business and i just came out of the steam room.”
This is what fascism looks like. It looks like Joe DiGenova on Fox News.
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) November 14, 2019
re: #6 gocart mozart
Please put that Tweet in private tags. You may think the cat (or whistleblower) is already out of the bag, but please don’t out the WB here.
“Trump lacks the cognitive ability to identify a goal and then formulate a plan to achieve that goal, which is the most basic criteria for being a functioning adult, and that’s why I feel he should have the nuclear codes.” -@benshapiro
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) November 14, 2019
So just for clarity, here’s the ‘hostage video’ where Zelensky allegedly confirms no one pressured him. This is maybe half of the GOP argument. pic.twitter.com/39L0FTUpMA
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 13, 2019
Please also stop chipping in to Devin Nunes’ Democratic challenger @PhilArballo2020 and our efforts to defeat him: https://t.co/B4AzH5V8iV
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) November 13, 2019
he’s coming for his red singlet shaped balloon
pic.twitter.com/O7osoTBn8B— David Jones (@DavidJones2019) November 14, 2019
re: #8 Ace-o-aces
So, this defense of Trump is literally that actions under the 25th Amendment should commence immediately
re: #8 Ace-o-aces
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If Trump is incapable of intent Shapiro should be calling for the 25th Amendment to be used and Trump removed immediately.
re: #4 Dread Pirate
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In other words Di Genova and Toensing are jumping on Richard Spencer’s Hate The Jews wagon.
These motherfathers need to be disbarred along with Giuliani!
re: #12 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
If Trump is incapable of intent Shapiro should be calling for the 25th Amendment to be used and Trump removed immediately.
Should, but won’t because (mumble mumble mumble).
“When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper … despotic in his ordinary demeanour - known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty - when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity - to join in the cry
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) November 14, 2019
It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may ‘ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.” - Alexander Hamilton arguing for including impeachment in the Constitution.
— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) November 14, 2019
Alabama governor Kay Ivey has announced she has lung cancer. Alabama is the worst state on record, if you contract lung cancer.
In Alabama, lung cancer patients have the greatest risk of death
al.com
Everything but the kitchen sink.
They are literally attacking one of the impeachment witnesses for…….drinking water pic.twitter.com/vVSrCcVNcS
— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) November 14, 2019
re: #18 teleskiguy
Everything but the kitchen sink.
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Pisses me off why Bloomberg and Steyer will NOT launch a hostile takeover of Fox.
A friend of mine said brussel sprouts are plant tumors. This perturbs me.
Contemplating nuclear war or merely un-Friending on Facebook.
re: #16 Decatur Deb
Alabama governor Kay Ivey has announced she has lung cancer. Alabama is the worst state on record, if you contract lung cancer.
In Alabama, lung cancer patients have the greatest risk of death
al.com
I’m a cancer survivor myself, so I don’t wish this kind of hell on anyone. Even someone as awful as Kay Ivey. But isn’t it ironic that she governs a state where a lung cancer patient has the worst chance of recovery?
re: #20 BigPapa
A friend of mine said brussel sprouts are plant tumors. This perturbs me.
Contemplating nuclear war or merely un-Friending on Facebook.
This is what I do with fresh Brussel Sprouts cut off of the stalk
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) November 14, 2019
Here is the video where Zelensky confirms he was not pressured by Trump in any way and apologizes for any misinterpretation or misunderstanding. https://t.co/gWrFYmiI5Y
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) November 14, 2019
re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹
This is what I do with fresh Brussel Sprouts cut off of the stalk
At any one time walking down the street I have at least 3 brussels sprouts recipes that will make you slap yo mama. Few of them have bacon in them. Because I have the vegan equivalent of bacon, truffle powder. Couple of shakes of truffle powder on anything and it tastes better.
Rep. Jim Himes: When you hear Trump’s words on his phone call with President Zelensky of Ukraine, do you hear the president engaged in a thoughtful and well-calibrated anti-corruption program?
George Kent: “I do not.”#ImpeachmentHearings pic.twitter.com/gvQo2kWQug— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) November 13, 2019
It’s Martin Short in a fat suit pic.twitter.com/IP0nsNlhzR
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) November 14, 2019
re: #30 gocart mozart
Now we know why his wife is so thin.
re: #21 thecommodore
I’m a cancer survivor myself, so I don’t wish this kind of hell on anyone. Even someone as awful as Kay Ivey. But isn’t it ironic that she governs a state where a lung cancer patient has the worst chance of recovery?
I don’t wish it on her or on the Medicaid recipients who don’t get screening because of AL GOP policy.
re: #8 Ace-o-aces
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Really stupid argument. This is exactly why he ended up on Breitbart and not doing actual litigation. He’s really not as clever as his circle jerk thinks he is. And if he actually believes this, he should support 25ing Trump but he won’t because he’s a principle lacking hack.
re: #27 BigPapa
At any one time walking down the street I have at least 3 brussels sprouts recipes that will make you slap yo mama. Few of them have bacon in them. Because I have the vegan equivalent of bacon, truffle powder. Couple of shakes of truffle powder on anything and it tastes better.
I tried potato chips dusted with truffle powder and they were awful.
There is no substitute for BACON!
I keep forgetting to mention this, but Jimmy Kimmel last night had a really funny skit. They had Carrie Underwood at some boot store. She would start singing one of her songs over the PA while watching the security cameras. Then she would change the song to coincide with what one of the customers was doing. It was funny when the customer realized that they were the subject of the song.
re: #34 HappyWarrior
Really stupid argument. This is exactly why he ended up on Breitbart and not doing actual litigation. He’s really not as clever as his circle jerk thinks he is. And if he actually believes this, he should support 25ing Trump but he won’t because he’s a principle lacking hack.
I got a feeling somebody flunked their bar exam just like Pat Robertson and Gym Jordan…
JFC!
Oh, I’m sorry, should they have included a fucking car chase?!
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) November 14, 2019
re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹
I got a feeling somebody flunked their bar exam just like Pat Robertson and Gym Jordan…
I wouldn’t be shocked honestly. He really isn’t that smart. He’s got some, I stress some debate skills but legal smarts? I never see them. I see a mediocre mind who gets touted as smart because he gets to be compared to Charlie Kirk, Jacob Wohl, & Steven Crowder.
Maybe they can come out next time and have a nip-slip so then you can whine about how they’re being indecent or some other rubbish.
Or they can come out and entertain you with sock-puppets and casual racism for effect.
What happened to reporting facts & not entertainment? https://t.co/XRdpCu711m— psychedelicatessen (@MentalRiot) November 14, 2019
In case you were wondering why the WHPC sucks. What a clown ass tweet. https://t.co/gIPNPqRNcm
— Wakandan War Dog (@Kennymack1971) November 14, 2019
WTF is wrong with these reporters?
re: #39 Ace-o-aces
JFC!
The traditional media is trying to become more like the media that helped fuel Trump’s rise and this is why I really worry about our future. The story ignores that these guys are credible witnesses who have served in both party’s administrations and testified that what Trump did was completely out of bounds for a President but because it didn’t have “pizzazz”, this ass is trying to dismiss it as a failure.
re: #42 Ace Rothstein
We almost deserve this.
It amazes me that Trump co hates the media so much when the media has helped them so much with their narratives.
How do I retweet this a million times?
cc: the reuters guy. John Allen from nbc. And everybody at axios. Stop sucking, please. https://t.co/5OcciALkol— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) November 14, 2019
re: #45 HappyWarrior
The traditional media is trying to become more like the media that helped fuel Trump’s rise and this is why I really worry about our future. The story ignores that these guys are credible witnesses who have served in both party’s administrations and testified that what Trump did was completely out of bounds for a President but because it didn’t have “pizzazz”, this ass is trying to dismiss it as a failure.
I guess the hearings need Russell Crowe walking out in gladiator gear, killing someone, and then asking the cameras whether or not they are sufficiently entertained.
Treating our governmental processes as some sort of reality show… I don’t really know how to react from this other than feeling some blind anger.
re: #48 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
I guess the hearings need Russell Crowe walking out in gladiator gear, killing someone, and then asking the cameras whether or not they are sufficiently entertained.
Treating our governmental processes as some sort of reality show… I don’t really know how to react from this other than feeling some blind anger.
It’s so absurd.
“Democratic lawmakers tried their hand at reality television with mixed results on Wednesday as they presented arguments to the American public for the impeachment of a former star of the genre, Donald Trump.”
What a shit take. WTF is wrong with you? https://t.co/P6AOXTlncE— Polly Sigh (@dcpoll) November 14, 2019
re: #39 Ace-o-aces
JFC!
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If they want razzle dazzle, they can go see “Chicago.” Our fucking media, ladies and gents.
Give ‘em the old flim flam flummox
Fool and fracture ‘em
How can they hear the truth above the roar?
Throw ‘em a fake and a finagle
They’ll never know you’re just a bagel,
Razzle dazzle ‘em
And they’ll beg you for more!
re: #50 jaunte
and we wonder why the American public is misinformed about the issues…. with hot takes like this it makes you wonder, why is this fuck on the news desk? Quit your fekking job and go apply over at the AV Club you poseur!!
re: #50 jaunte
The more our media wants to treat this all as a fucking game, the more disillusioned I get. Let me put it loudly. OUR FUCKING PRESIDENT THREATENED TO WITHHOLD AID FROM AN ALLY IN A KEY GEOPOLITICAL PLACE IF THEY DID NOT INVESTIGATE HIS POTENTIAL OPPONENT AND VALIDATE HIS CONSPIRACY THEORIES. And if you seriously believe Trump who hasn’t met a dictator he hasn’t liked or a shady business deal was interested in corruption, you’re dumber than Trump himself.
If only Schiff had an announcer, smoke and fireworks like in the WWE as he entered the room.
Some of these reporters need to wake up and notice that Trump is very buddy-buddy with tyrants who don’t think twice about bonesawing a man into pieces for an unfavorable report. They have a responsibility beyond themselves and their entertainment.
re: #54 GlutenFreeJesus
If only Schiff had an announcer, smoke and fireworks like in the WWE as he entered the room.
Schiff should have tagged HRC in and HRC should have hit Jim Jordan with a chair for revenge for grilling her over Benghazi. And then Trey Gowdy would have tagged in too. // Seriously what the fuck media. This isn’t Mark Burnett’s the US Government. This is our government. This is what those fucking soldiers that so many people fucking reduce to a meme literally died to have be our system of government. An imperfect system but far superior to what our ancestors gained their independence fighting against and then what their descendants fought against in the world wars.
re: #55 jaunte
Some of these reporters need to wake up and notice that Trump is very buddy-buddy with tyrants who don’t think twice about bonesawing a man into pieces for an unfavorable report. They have a responsibility beyond themselves and their entertainment.
That’s exactly what makes me furious about these stupid takes. We have a President who has shown that he does not value a free press and he’s fine with dissident journalists being murdered.
cc: all you crappy journalists who are using the word ‘pizazz ‘ in your reporting. https://t.co/P5zGxMRS00
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) November 14, 2019
re: #58 jaunte
The role of Edward Morrow has been played by Soledad O’Brien. If our media had more men and women like her, Trump’s sorry ass wouldn’t have gotten anywhere because the media would have actually looked at the fucked up people who pushed the Trump presidency on us. A bunch of stupid miserable fucking people who consider themselves Alphamales but are in fact some of the biggest losers you’ll ever see who think they’re hot fucking shit because they can type stupid shit on Twitter.
re: #59 HappyWarrior
who think they’re hot fucking shit because they can type stupid shit on Twitter
Hey, wait a minute.
The Constitution is clear. A president can only be impeached for high-rated crimes and pizzazzy misdemeanors. https://t.co/KVq5f7AftA
— Tea Pain (@TeaPainUSA) November 14, 2019
re: #60 jaunte
Hey, wait a minute.
Ha. I’m talking about all the “alpha males” of the world who talk shit on Twitter about minorities, immigrants, and women but who shrivel up like their little dicks if they ever have to deal with real conflict.
re: #61 jaunte
Ah yeah, that’s in the same provision that said Eric Trump must be entertained by the impeachment hearings which means the next impeachment hearing will need a monkey eating its own poop which is how Eric spends his days when he’s not tweeting.
was so pissed off I sent the following to Mr. Allen (which links to his e-mail if you burrow thru his tweet)
Jonathon,
Maybe tomorrow the Democrats could stage a car chase or perhaps a musical number in order to keep your attention about the lawbreaking of the President and who was involved in the extortion of your tax dollars and mine in withholding Congressionally approved Military aid in exchange for a public statement that they could use as propaganda in the 2020 election and smear a political opponent. You’re right, these kinds of things happen every day in the history of our nation, so I guess its not really that big a deal.
Maybe something really exciting will happen tomorrow, or you could even liven things up yourself, by perhaps taking note on how many times in the last 50 years we’ve had Presidents use our tax dollars in order to hamstring their political opponents and show us how many times both sides do it, so that you could show us all how right your are to be bored by the proceedings.
Do better….
I really wish we’d quit focusing on Trump looking for dirt on Biden to help him and instead look at the bigger picture of Trump’s attempt to weaken Ukraine’s position against Russia. #AllRoadsLeadToPutin
— Rick S (@gratepool) November 14, 2019
Maybe a story with rockets, bombs and death will have a little more pizzazz.
I think the invasion of Iraq has really numbed a lot of Americans to Russia’s crime of seizing land from Ukraine.
re: #65 jaunte
Maybe a story with rockets, bombs and death will have a little more pizzazz.
The fact is this. Ukraine has a border with a few very important NATO allies. Ukraine is also a sovereign nation and has been since the fall of the USSR. Also relevant is that Trump shares Putin’s view on Ukraine being part of the Russia Federation. Trump doesn’t give two fucks about our NATO or EU allies because he wants our alliances to operate like a Mafia protection ring.
re: #66 jaunte
I think the invasion of Iraq has really numbed a lot of Americans to Russia’s crime of seizing land from Ukraine.
I think so too and that really upsets me. Iraq was awful. My teenage years included protesting that war. But you know what, Ukraine still has a right to its sovereignty and it should disgust people that Trump has no problem with Russia hassling an ally, an ally that sees us a role model. I think that’s what angers me the most. Trump never fails to call the nations and people he throws under the bus “ungrateful” or accuse them of ripping us off. Ukrainians look to Western Europe and the US/Canada as an ally and a model. It’s the same crap with the Kurds. I mean the neo-conservatives were awful because they never thought about the long term consequences of their invasions and war fantasies but they weren’t doing that to benefit dictatorships and the Trump doctrine benefits dictators as long as they kiss Trump’s ass. The Trump doctrine is thus far worse than the Bush doctrine is.
me, yesterday: “When Democrats hold gravely serious hearings, journalists inexplicably don their theater criticism caps and judge the inquiry based on its entertainment value.”; https://t.co/gmE4mYP3SU
— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) November 14, 2019
The media cannot be trusted with the impeachment. They’ll both-sides this shit to death. Wasn’t it Jeff Zucker who said that Fuckface Von Clownstick was bad for the country but excellent for the media’s bottom line? FVC is a cash register to them, cha-ching cha-ching.
The impeachment hearing may have had substance and important information, but why did nobody throw water in somebody’s face after finding out they’ve actually been dead for ten years? My latest, for CNN.
— Cody Johnston (@drmistercody) November 14, 2019
The problem they are facing, sadly, is every sane person in the galaxy knows Trump is 100% guilty. Of everything. And saying so all day every day is not great TV to them. He’s been guilty of everything for years really. They think they need sparkle. https://t.co/qLWSYPgDzq
— Todd Poirier (@todd_poirier) November 14, 2019
Transparent guilt: boring.
Here’s the truth: 90%+ of reality is boring. That’s why we have scripted shows and (in recent decades) “reality TV,” because we like the idea of seeing only the interesting bits without slogging through things like characters spending hours asleep or taking a shit. If you actually offered people the chance to see their favorite “reality TV” shows in real time, the initial burst of interest would almost immediately taper off into whining that it’s “boring” and “dull.”
Who would want to tune into Hell’s Kitchen and spend hours watching the losers in that day’s challenge doing prep work like cutting veggies or butchering meat?
Or Survivor where the majority of the night scenes involve little light and a whole lot of silence?
And would The Apprentice be as interesting if we had to sit through hours of contestants doing grunt work or filling out paperwork?
I’m sure that House Dems could have made today’s proceedings shocking and dazzling to viewers if they could do it all behind closed doors, then release an hour long program where only the most “exciting” bits were spliced together as though it was the entirety of the hearing.
re: #71 teleskiguy
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And why didn’t we find out that Ambassador Taylor is actually Trump’s brother Fred who faked his death and became a respected diplomat.//
I feel like this is a good time to remind people the Ben spent years working at Breitbart when they had an entire section dedicated to “black crime”.
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) November 14, 2019
re: #73 Targetpractice
Here’s the truth: 90%+ of reality is boring. That’s why we have scripted shows and (in recent decades) “reality TV,” because we like the idea of seeing only the interesting bits without slogging through things like characters spending hours asleep or taking a shit. If you actually offered people the chance to see their favorite “reality TV” shows in real time, the initial burst of interest would almost immediately taper off into whining that it’s “boring” and “dull.”
Who would want to tune into Hell’s Kitchen and spend hours watching the losers in that day’s challenge doing prep work like cutting veggies or butchering meat?
Or Survivor where the majority of the night scenes involve little light and a whole lot of silence?
And would The Apprentice be as interesting if we had to sit through hours of contestants doing grunt work or filling out paperwork?
I’m sure that House Dems could have made today’s proceedings shocking and dazzling to viewers if they could do it all behind closed doors, then release an hour long program where only the most “exciting” bits were spliced together as though it was the entirety of the hearing.
Our dystopian present is not something Orwell or Huxley would have seen since neither man lived to see Mark Burnett’s garbage.
I really hope history is able to eventually explain why Republicans are willing to die for a man who, when push comes to shove, would quickly abandon them
— Roland Scahill (@rolandscahill) November 14, 2019
I’ve been stating that liberals need to become police officers to help combat the abuse of authority. I just realized, after reading the reactions above, that more liberals need to go into the news as well.
re: #75 Ace-o-aces
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Other fact. Ben liked Milo long before he didn’t. Ben doesn’t deserve threats or antisemitic harassment but he deserves all the reminders he can get for being a bigoted prick who helped poison dialogue.
re: #77 jaunte
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Because they’re afraid of the asshole base their party began to create when their party’s leaders saw the Dixiecrats votes were ripe for the taking.
Y’know, I remember sitting through most of the 11 hours of the Gowdy Doody Show and it’s attempt to catch Hillary is some dramatic courtroom moment where the entire “conspiracy” came crashing down on live TV and she was exposed as a criminal for all to see. And when it ended with no big reveal, no big dramatic moment, and the star of the show walking out covered in flop sweat and muttering about “unanswered questions” while the supposed “criminal” left without a hair out of place on her head, I don’t remember the media moaning that it had all been so “boring.”
re: #43 jaunte
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This is how democracy dies, with insipid fools writing about a lack of pizzazz
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) November 14, 2019
Wrong. These questions elicited statements from Sondland to the witnesses that aid was withheld for conditions. Those would be admissible even in court under FRE 801(d)(2) co-conspirator statements because it is considered reliable. Conspiracies need multiple actors to succeed. https://t.co/bUIJdm8dFi
— Mimi Rocah (@Mimirocah1) November 13, 2019
“I want to fuck you like an animal…in the back of my pick-up”.
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) November 14, 2019
Just when you think he’s hit rock bottom, he finds a way to go lower!
Pres. Trump claims Turkish Pres. Erdogan “has a great relationship with the Kurds.” pic.twitter.com/tsxNZFzwVx
— Evan McMurry (@evanmcmurry) November 13, 2019
The QAnon nuts seem to be getting riled up over some alleged “Q confirmation” that Trump has gone to his reward (such as it were) and been replaced by a body double.
It seems to be getting spread by a relatively minor segment of the Qult, but of course, their fever dreams are growing increasingly unhinged.
In a private tag, because this one may cause brain damage. It’s entirely SFW, just 100% batshit crazy.
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re: #85 Ace-o-aces
Just when you think he’s hit rock bottom, he finds a way to go lower!
@evanmcmurry
Pres. Trump claims Turkish Pres. Erdogan “has a great relationship with the Kurds.”
“Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.”
re: #2 Blind Frog Belly White
I just saw an ad for some cruise line, using Jefferson Airplane’s “White Rabbit” as the theme music. Mrs FBW pointed out, “That’s about a drug trip!”
i thought, “What’s next? An ad for Georgia peaches using” Strange Fruit “?
My favorite scene involving White Rabbit from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
re: #20 BigPapa
A friend of mine said brussel sprouts are plant tumors. This perturbs me.
Contemplating nuclear war or merely un-Friending on Facebook.
I can understand hating Brussels sprouts for the fact that our standard way of preparing them is to boil them down to mush, as is the case with cauliflower or broccoli.
There are ways of preparing then in which they are delicate and crunchy yet tender and taste wonderful.
re: #48 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
I guess the hearings need Russell Crowe walking out in gladiator gear, killing someone, and then asking the cameras whether or not they are sufficiently entertained.
Treating our governmental processes as some sort of reality show… I don’t really know how to react from this other than feeling some blind anger.
I read that in ancient rome, public figures such as actors or gladiators were considered infam and forbidden occupy public office to avoid turning politics into spectacle.
We are starting to see some of the reasoning behind it.
re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I read that in ancient rome, public figures such as actors or gladiators were considered infam and forbidden occupy public office to avoid turning politics into spectacle.
We are starting to see some of the reasoning behind it.
Maybe at some point in their earlier history, the Romans had dealt with someone, perhaps an actor or gladiator, who parlayed their fame into public office and after creating some kind of shitshow, the Roman Senate decided they weren’t having that anymore in the future.
re: #86 Dr Lizardo
The QAnon nuts seem to be getting riled up over some alleged “Q confirmation” that Trump has gone to his reward (such as it were) and been replaced by a body double.
It seems to be getting spread by a relatively minor segment of the Qult, but of course, their fever dreams are growing increasingly unhinged.
In a private tag, because this one may cause brain damage. It’s entirely SFW, just 100% batshit crazy.
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1. Yeah, that is some serious delusional content
2. Not surprisingly the Q-Anon folks appear not to comprehend how the 25th Amendment works
3. I am now wondering if the 25th had not been ratified in ‘67, would Nixon have resigned. What are the chances that Nixon would bow out, and allow the Democratic Speaker of the House assume the presidency?
re: #91 Dr Lizardo
Maybe at some point in their earlier history, the Romans had dealt with someone, perhaps an actor or gladiator, who parlayed their fame into public office and after creating some kind of shitshow, the Roman Senate decided they weren’t having that anymore in the future.
Because people would support these infams because of their popularity, not their politics.
Nowadays, our news media give them free publicity and refrain from asking any embarrassing questions in order not to lose access, as these people bring in readers/viewers…
re: #92 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
1. Yeah, that is some serious delusional content
2. Not surprisingly the Q-Anon folks appear not to comprehend how the 25th Amendment works
3. I am now wondering if the 25th had not been ratified in ‘67, would Nixon have resigned. What are the chances that Nixon would bow out, and allow the Democratic Speaker of the House assume the presidency?
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Q-cumbers probably think the 25th Amendment is “fake news!” or some “Deep State mechanism to legally pull off a coup!” or some such crap.
They’re nuts, quite frankly. Some of them have gone so far off the deep end, I doubt they’re reachable anymore.
re: #94 Dr Lizardo
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Q-cumbers probably think the 25th Amendment is “fake news!” or some “Deep State mechanism to legally pull off a coup!” or some such crap.
They’re nuts, quite frankly. Some of them have gone so far off the deep end, I doubt they’re reachable anymore.
Many are far gone, others are just trolls and attention/sensation-seekers who enjoying getting a rise out of people. But whatever their motive, they have reached a critical mass in that they are starting to affect the public discourse.
re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Many are far gone, others are just trolls and attention/sensation-seekers who enjoying getting a rise out of people. But whatever their motive, they have reached a critical mass in that they are starting to affect the public discourse.
I wonder how many of these QAnon nutters we’ll see running for office under the GOP banner next year? I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there weren’t at least a few - provided that QAnon hasn’t been completely and utterly debunked by then (arguably, after a slew of failed and laughable predictions, Q should’ve been utterly discredited long ago).
re: #96 Ming5000
George Conway was well spoken yesterday. He is another capable never-Trumper.
Too bad there are so few MAGAs who have his perspective.
re: #97 Dr Lizardo
I wonder how many of these QAnon nutters we’ll see running for office under the GOP banner next year? I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there weren’t at least a few - provided that QAnon hasn’t been completely and utterly debunked by then (arguably, after a slew of failed and laughable predictions, Q should’ve been utterly discredited long ago).
I can see them taking over the GOP post-Trump, even if he wins and especially if he loses.
re: #97 Dr Lizardo
I wonder how many of these QAnon nutters we’ll see running for office under the GOP banner next year? I wouldn’t be at all surprised if there weren’t at least a few - provided that QAnon hasn’t been completely and utterly debunked by then (arguably, after a slew of failed and laughable predictions, Q should’ve been utterly discredited long ago).
Q cannot be debunked at our present level of public mental health. If America were 70% sane, Q would never have been bunked.
re: #2 Blind Frog Belly White
I just saw an ad for some cruise line, using Jefferson Airplane’s “White Rabbit” as the theme music. Mrs FBW pointed out, “That’s about a drug trip!”
i thought, “What’s next? An ad for Georgia peaches using” Strange Fruit “?
I see you, and raise you Stone Temple Pilots selling Ram pick-me-up trucks.
re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I can see them taking over the GOP post-Trump, even if he wins and especially if he loses.
At that point, the GOP probably end up going the way of the Know-Nothings - a party of cranks and conspiracy theorists, populated by nativists and would-be theocrats.
Presumably, some new center-right party will emerge from the ashes and balance will be restored.
re: #103 Dr Lizardo
At that point, the GOP probably end up going the way of the Know-Nothings - a party of cranks and conspiracy theorists, populated by nativists and would-be theocrats.
Presumably, some new center-right party will emerge from the ashes and balance will be restored.
Cough, cough, spit…wipes sleeves. They’re called “Democrats”.
re: #96 Ming5000
George Conway was well spoken yesterday. He is another capable never-Trumper.
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Not to be a dick about it and I welcome every never-trumper, but this guy, along with Ann Coulter were a big part of the Clinton impeachment. Conway was on the legal team.
Great you’re onboard now…but it is only the level of what trump is doing that is driving this…meaning he’s ruining the republican party.
All these people, Conway, Rick Wilson, et. freaking al, are going to be back to “dems suck” immediately after this trump thing leaves. They are all, lock, stock and barrel, part of WHY we have trump.
re: #106 Eventual Carrion
The road to Idiocracy.
One key moment was when John McCain tried to stand up to people calling Obama a traitor and he was shouted down.
That started a race to the bottom of the barrel of outrageous claims and attention-seeking behavior that is still gaining momentum. Qanon is a symptom of that tendency, since they know that as long as something is anti-Democrat, it will not be seriously called out or challenged by the GOP and once it becomes a “trending on Twitter” hashtag, it will get picked up and discussed by the media as if it had some merit.
“They had a decent enough day one to make you want to see day two.” - Chuck Todd.
“The first two witnesses called Wednesday testified to President Trump’s scheme, but lacked the pizzazz necessary to capture public attention.” - @NBCNews analysis.
Please don’t do this.— Micheline Maynard (@MickiMaynard) November 14, 2019
Chuck Todd in yesterday’s NBC live round-table was awful. His insipid comments were highlighted compared to the better commentary around him. I was embarrassed for him.
Short thread.
Republicans discussing longer Senate impeachment trial to disrupt Dem primaries. The conversations remain fluid, but they could pose a serious challenge to the half-dozen Democratic senators running for president if a trial stretches into February.
https://t.co/aMcWgGIz3C— Yeah Sure WTF Ever (@YeahSureWhatev2) November 14, 2019
re: #111 steve_davis
“they dropped no bombshells….” Yeah, other than that whole “my staffer overheard Sondland on the phone with Trump explaining how ‘penis pumps really are my bag, baby!’”
We are so jaded from infotainment that we react to nothing but sensation and bombshells. Shooting-on-5th-Avenue stuff.
From the guardian
Nunes is a one-time dairy farmer who now milks the bursting udders of an entire herd of conspiracy-minded cows.
Lottery sales, of the draw games, has really slowed down. If we think of this as an economic indicator, it suggests that people have less discretionary money than they did last year.
I’ve also noticed that many of the high-priced houses in the county that were for sale have been pulled off the market. Some have sold, at prices much lower than the asking, but others are just pulled.
If the rich think that now is not the time to sell, or if they have to sell then to take much lower than asking price, then that too is an indicator.
re: #114 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Still, the jobs numbers are looking good and if DT can keep that up through next November, that will work in his favor.
re: #103 Dr Lizardo
At that point, the GOP probably end up going the way of the Know-Nothings - a party of cranks and conspiracy theorists, populated by nativists and would-be theocrats.
Presumably, some new center-right party will emerge from the ashes and balance will be restored.
The alt-right’s strategy is to “poison the well” and they are succeeding. They have been destroying the Republican Party from within and weakening the Democratic Party through propaganda.They really have no firm ideology amongst themselves except for White Supremacy. Their economics are all over the map, pretending to adhere to Libertarianism but utterly silent on their hero Trump’s overt government interference in the “free market”. The Republican and Democratic parties are being destroyed and in the ashes an informal Republican-in-name-only hegemony is being built. The huge swath of red voting districts across the heartland has unhooded themselves and elected a spectrum of white supremacists whose only direction is one single goal - relegating the 20th Century political apparatus to the dustbin of history. They are already halfway there. In its place is a 21st Century internet-enabled populism celebrating authoritarianism.
The combination of Trump’s narcissism-inspired global trade war, and the continued movement of national wealth into the hands of the very few, is killing the economic engine of the US.
re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The unemployment numbers look good because of several factors. Remember, only those looking for work are considered. Also, many people have minimum wage jobs that are dead ends and the minimum wage is just not keeping up with prices, so while a part-timer is considered “employed”, such people are the working poor and are at high risk of disaster.
re: #117 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The unemployment numbers look good because of several factors. Remember, only those looking for work are considered. Also, many people have minimum wage jobs that are dead ends and the minimum wage is just not keeping up with prices, so while a part-timer is considered “employed”, such people are the working poor and are at high risk of disaster.
They just have to look good on a superficial level and hold up until the second Tuesday in November…
re: #117 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The combination of Trump’s narcissism-inspired global trade war, and the continued movement of national wealth into the hands of the very few, is killing the economic engine of the US.
The unemployment numbers look good because of several factors. Remember, only those looking for work are considered. Also, many people have minimum wage jobs that are dead ends and the minimum wage is just not keeping up with prices, so while a part-timer is considered “employed”, such people are the working poor and are at high risk of disaster.
This here. One question I have for anyone who might know the way the employment numbers are calculated. If I , as one person, hold 2 or 3 jobs. Is that employment number based on the one person or counted 2 or 3 times depending on how many jobs I have.
re: #114 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Lottery sales, of the draw games, has really slowed down. If we think of this as an economic indicator, it suggests that people have less discretionary money than they did last year.
I’ve also noticed that many of the high-priced houses in the county that were for sale have been pulled off the market. Some have sold, at prices much lower than the asking, but others are just pulled.
If the rich think that now is not the time to sell, or if they have to sell then to take much lower than asking price, then that too is an indicator.
As I have mentioned before, I get emails from Redfin daily. Every day prices in CA have dropped. Last night I got one that was on the market for $6m. It dropped in price by $300k. That was the biggest drop I have seen yet.
For years I would see a price decrease every few months. Now it is every day.
Household debt is at an all time high:
A few may claim this is a good thing, that it indicates banks are confident that the populace can repay loans.
However, I suggest that this debt increase only the result of a long term push by the Fed to keep rates low. If rates start to creep up, households will not be able to service this debt.
This is the problem that our American society faces, structurally: we have designed a society that can only work by consuming greatly more than what we can actually produce or for which we can trade.
And personally, I like most people in retirement now find that medical bills are going to be much higher than anticipated, that my “golden years” are going to be years of owing hospitals and doctors a great deal of money. As many of us grow to be very old, the cost of long-term care is going to be astronomical and I wonder how our society will resolve it.
re: #117 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
This entire “economic miracle” is occurring during a $1 Trillion Federal Debt load increase this year alone. A big giant credit card being slapped down while taxes lowered for the highest tier of society means this entire economy is a fraud. Our Public Debt numbers are out of control closer to basket cases Greece and Italy. When the bubble bursts, and it will, the current “Miracle” will be exposed.
re: #116 Florida Panhandler
The alt-right’s strategy is to “poison the well” and they are succeeding. They have been destroying the Republican Party from within and weakening the Democratic Party through propaganda.They really have no firm ideology amongst themselves except for White Supremacy. Their economics are all over the map, pretending to adhere to Libertarianism but utterly silent on their hero Trump’s overt government interference in the “free market”. The Republican and Democratic parties are being destroyed and in the ashes an informal Republican-in-name-only hegemony is being built. The huge swath of red voting districts across the heartland has unhooded themselves and elected a spectrum of white supremacists whose only direction is one single goal - relegating the 20th Century political apparatus to the dustbin of history. They are already halfway there. In its place is a 21st Century internet-enabled populism celebrating authoritarianism.
My hope is that the alt-right and the alt-alt-right eat themselves into oblivion. Donny Jr and Eric getting boo’d at every college they’re brought into. The white supremacists are eating the religious righties. They’re all seeing that republicans only care about money for the rich. I can’t believe it’s this that will likely save us.
I hope for a total implosion on the right. Whatever brings it about.
re: #120 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
One of the houses I had checked online in summer, which had an asking price of $3M, did sell, but for $2M, which is quite a drop. It was a classic house in an exclusive neighborhood and had much history and charm, but that was not enough to keep the price up.
re: #122 Florida Panhandler
This entire “economic miracle” is occurring during a $1 Trillion Federal Debt load increase this year alone. A big giant credit card being slapped down while taxes lowered for the highest tier of society means this entire economy is a fraud. Our Public Debt numbers are out of control closer to basket cases Greece and Italy. When the bubble bursts, and it will, the current “Miracle” will be exposed.
Whereupon it will be dumped on a Democratic administration or blamed on Democrats’ “obstructionism” and “over-regulation”.
re: #113 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
From the guardian
I’ve seen nothing about him that suggests he belongs on the Intel Committee let alone to be Schiff’s counterpart on it. I mean yeah I don’t like Will Hurd but someone like him would actually make sense. Even that dipshit Radcliffe would too. But Devin Nunes?
re: #117 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The combination of Trump’s narcissism-inspired global trade war, and the continued movement of national wealth into the hands of the very few, is killing the economic engine of the US.
The unemployment numbers look good because of several factors. Remember, only those looking for work are considered. Also, many people have MULTIPLE minimum wage jobs that are dead ends and the minimum wage is just not keeping up with prices, so while a part-timer is considered “employed”, such people are the working poor and are at high risk of disaster.
I have to think that someone holding down multiple minimum wage jobs shows positively in the statistics when it really isn’t.
re: #122 Florida Panhandler
Public debt was designed to be a stimulus.
The GOP howled at Obama when he came in and wanted a stimulus.
Now for some reason an even larger stimulus is fine.
Funny how that works.
re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They just have to look good on a superficial level and hold up until the second Tuesday in November…
That’s true at the surface level, for propaganda. If actual job scarcity is buried in the fluff, people will sense that their folding cash, and that of their friends/neighbors, is vaporizing.
re: #128 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Public debt was designed to be a stimulus.
The GOP howled at Obama when he came in and wanted a stimulus.
Now for some reason an even larger stimulus is fine.
Funny how that works.
It’s all about the By Who and For Who.
re: #129 Decatur Deb
I suggest that the declining lottery sales and the decreasing house prices are such a “sense”.
Not sure that Trump and the GOP can keep up this charade for another year.
A white nationalist friendly Facebook group in Maine is urging its members to kill as many Muslims as possible and Facebook is refusing to take any action.
I wrote about the mess for an indie Maine paper, here’s the story: https://t.co/A48WxT358u— Nathan Bernard (@nathanTbernard) November 13, 2019
re: #133 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Ever notice that the people triggered by minorities the most never actually interact with them?
Looking again at that Fed link I shared, one can see that the non-housing debt is rising much faster than the housing debt.
This is the transition to the old company-store society that plagued economies in the late 19th century, where people could not save capital because all their wages went to daily living expenses.
re: #121 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Household debt is at an all time high:
A few may claim this is a good thing, that it indicates banks are confident that the populace can repay loans.
However, I suggest that this debt increase only the result of a long term push by the Fed to keep rates low. If rates start to creep up, households will not be able to service this debt.
This is the problem that our American society faces, structurally: we have designed a society that can only work by consuming greatly more than what we can actually produce or for which we can trade.
And personally, I like most people in retirement now find that medical bills are going to be much higher than anticipated, that my “golden years” are going to be years of owing hospitals and doctors a great deal of money. As many of us grow to be very old, the cost of long-term care is going to be astronomical and I wonder how our society will resolve it.
To take the edge off that panic a bit, I can tell you that medical costs will be reasonable for two Medicare-enrolled people IF:
1) Both are fairly healthy. (We are often surgical cases, not heavy prescription users.)
2) You can stay in a large employer or other insured pool and,
3) You can afford about 600/month supplemental insurance through the pool.
re: #129 Decatur Deb
That’s true at the surface level, for propaganda. If actual job scarcity is buried in the fluff, people will sense that their folding cash, and that of their friends/neighbors, is vaporizing.
There are people who are well prepared to believe (or at least promote) statistics over reality.
re: #128 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Public debt was designed to be a stimulus.
The GOP howled at Obama when he came in and wanted a stimulus.
Now for some reason an even larger stimulus is fine.
Funny how that works.
I still recall the halcyon days of a budget surplus under Clinton and Rush was explaining that it was immoral for the government to be collecting more money from us than it needed to operate.
In fact, that court characterized WH unwillingness to comply as “obstruction” and used that to *bolster* the need for Congress to be able to obtain documents.
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) November 14, 2019
Man, when you’ve lost the racist dumpster dwellers like Joe Walsh
.@gtconway3d is a patriot who is defending his country. @KellyannePolls is a hired gun who is defending someone she knows is an incompetent con man. I’m with George. There’s no defense for Trump. https://t.co/KCNJaO0ca8
— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) November 14, 2019
Morning all.
Wife and I got to a movie maybe every couple of years at this point. Both of us are big Action and SF fans.
We’re both ready for some Mr Rogers…….
What say you?
I haven’t gone to a movie since 2005 (LOTR: Return of the King).
Do they still let you smoke in the theaters? (JK)
re: #21 thecommodore
I’m a cancer survivor myself, so I don’t wish this kind of hell on anyone. Even someone as awful as Kay Ivey. But isn’t it ironic that she governs a state where a lung cancer patient has the worst chance of recovery?
She has the wherewithall to go elsewhere to be treated.
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.
The evolving media narrative that the pundits have deemed about day 1 of the impeachment hearings is that they are significant but boring/lacking pizzazz?
There’s so much bulkshit to unpack here, but let’s start with the indisputable fact that the Democrats have made a case that Trumpworld committed multiple federal felonies and the GOP doesn’t dispute the case on the facts or evidence, but rather obstructs, obfuscates, and engages in deflections, dodges, and spurious conspiracy theories to waste the time.
This isn’t analysis. This is bread and circuses bulkshit that spews Trump talking points.
The facts are damning enough even before yesterday. But what do you want? People flying from chandeliers?
Trial by combat?
Do better.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 14, 2019
Media pundits want more excitement from the impeachment hearings?
.@RepAdamSchiff should seriously gavel in this morning’s hearing with a bear juggling bowling pins while riding a unicycle in order to make the fucking point for the news media.
— Charles #GetCovered-ba (@charles_gaba) November 14, 2019
Heck, Let’s get Dick Wolf involved and treat this as Law and Order: High Crimes edition.
I’m sure Sam Waterston is available to play prosecutor role. pic.twitter.com/y19ere05eN— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 14, 2019
The reality is that the evidence is so damning and overwhelming that the GOP don’t have a defense. They can only resort to smearing Schiff and the case and career diplomats who knew that Trumpworld was violating the law.
What’s worse is that the media is spewing the GOP talking points that the hearings are boring.
Fuck that. There’s nothing boring about identifying criminals and misconduct. That’s what we’ve learned from nearly 30 years of Law and Order, NCIS, etc.
What do we need? The Law and Order gong sound each time a crime is identified and we quick cut to Trump squirming?
If there were no crimes committed, Trump should allow all of his cronies to testify under oath.
As was pointed out to Jim Jordan, we could get first-hand testimony from Trump. All he needs to do is show up. But he wont. His lawyers know that it would put the nail in the coffin of his failed admin. If Democrats keep going after his ego, Trump might take the bait and disregard his lawyers.
re: #143 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
She has the wherewithall to go elsewhere to be treated.
If living were a thing that money could buy,
You know the rich would live
And the poor would die,
All my trials Lord, soon be over
re: #126 HappyWarrior
I’ve seen nothing about him that suggests he belongs on the Intel Committee let alone to be Schiff’s counterpart on it. I mean yeah I don’t like Will Hurd but someone like him would actually make sense. Even that dipshit Radcliffe would too. But Devin Nunes?
Dunno: Cow Man Nunes is a holdover on the HPSCI from previous GOP-led Congresses, where he had been the Committee’s Chairman since 2015. Since he did his job adequately (mainly being a mindless Party hack, Trump-defender and ideological crank - he’s been the GOP’s point-man anti-environmentalist for years), I guess they figured they should just leave him in place. Not that the Republicans seem to give a flying about ANY Committee - or House process in general - when they’re in the Minority….
Nah, the people testifying should do so while juggling. Or perhaps they should sing their testimony a la Southwest Airlines safety announcement. That was always entertaining. #BreadAndCircusWithoutTheBread
— Yeah Sure WTF Ever (@YeahSureWhatev2) November 14, 2019
Trump hotel’s biggest selling point, according to a copy of the brochure seen by CNN, is the one thing that the Trump family insists it didn’t take advantage of: profiting off foreign governments.
https://t.co/w7L4ljwkD0— Shimon Prokupecz (@ShimonPro) November 14, 2019
re: #149 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
At the end of the article
“… Foreign business is not the only selling point the Trump Organization is highlighting to possible buyers. They’re also anticipating a boost to the hotel market from one company the president loves to hate, Amazon, whose CEO Jeff Bezos also owns the Washington Post.
One full page in the 46-page package promotes the benefits that may come from Amazon’s decision to build its second headquarters in northern Virginia. JLL projects that Amazon could add 880,000 room nights in seven years, “further driving compression,” or full occupancy, “to the lodging sector in Washington DC.” …”
These are some of the descriptions of George Kent and Bill Taylor from Fox’s prime time shows: “Two homeless guys.” They “looked like people who sat by themselves at recess.” And “self-important” bureaucrats. https://t.co/HHgFa0rSlb
— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) November 14, 2019
See, the news isn’t all bad…
Today’s top business headlines:
- Federal Reserve chair: US growth threatened by trade wars
- Americans have a record $14 trillion in debt
- WeWork losses double to $1.25 billion
- Disney+ hits 10 million subscribers since its launchhttps://t.co/0XzK8kcI2R pic.twitter.com/PyUW2MvJom— CNN (@CNN) November 14, 2019
re: #151 Stanley Sea
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FNC really is getting more pathetic. How about actually talking about what they testified to or are the shitheads that run FNC too cowardly to bring that up because it might cast doubt in Dear Leader. These are two career diplomats whom unlike the hacks at FNC aren’t interested in an ideological agenda.
re: #140 Dave In Austin
Morning all.
Wife and I got to a movie maybe every couple of years at this point. Both of us are big Action and SF fans.We’re both ready for some Mr Rogers…….
What say you?
When aliens try to move in next door, he’s had just about enough.
Mr Rogers in “No More Mr Nice Guy”
re: #142 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
I haven’t gone to a movie since 2005 (LOTR: Return of the King).
Do they still let you smoke in the theaters? (JK)
They didn’t let you smoke in 2005.
“Convicted of a crime I didn’t even commit. Hah! Attempted murder? Now honestly, what is that? Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry? Do they?”
— Sideshow Bob, “The Simpsons,” Season Six, Episode Five, 1994
This rhetorical absurdity, originally intended as joke on a TV cartoon, is now being trotted out in all seriousness by the GOP. What New York magazine writer Jonathan Chait has called the “Sideshow Bob defense” has become central to Republican efforts to shield President Trump from accusations of wrongdoing. Because the Ukrainian quid pro quo was ultimately unsuccessful, the argument goes, no crime was committed, even if one was attempted. The editorial page of the Wall Street Journal wrote (apparently not joking): “Many people in the Administration opposed the Giuliani effort, including some in senior positions at the White House. This matters because it may turn out that while Mr. Trump wanted a quid-pro-quo policy ultimatum toward Ukraine, he was too inept to execute it.”
washingtonpost.com
re: #143 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
She has the wherewithall to go elsewhere to be treated.
Just like rich daughters have the means to travel out of state for their abortions…
re: #152 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
See, the news isn’t all bad…
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Disney+ does not work on my internet provider so I already dropped it.
re: #155 Belafon
They didn’t let you smoke in 2005.
I remember lighting up a joint in the cinema at Indiana University in 1976 to the trippy scene in 2001: A Space Odyssey
re: #146 Decatur Deb
If living were a thing that money could buy,
You know the rich would live
And the poor would die,
All my trials Lord, soon be over
A new report estimates nearly 2,800 Floridians have died because the state did not expand Medicaid.
re: #161 NO SMOCKING GUN!
A new report estimates nearly 2,800 Floridians have died because the state did not expand Medicaid.
The Tree of Free Enterprise must occasionally be watered with the blood of consumers!
What we need is a John Oliver musical extravaganza production number summarizing the impeachment hearings.
re: #126 HappyWarrior
I’ve seen nothing about him that suggests he belongs on the Intel Committee let alone to be Schiff’s counterpart on it. I mean yeah I don’t like Will Hurd but someone like him would actually make sense. Even that dipshit Radcliffe would too. But Devin Nunes?
Politics got nothing to do with smarts capabilities nor expertise
Kellyanne Conway melted down after Wolf Blitzer asked her to respond to something her husband said on MSNBC. #triggered pic.twitter.com/deESAcuHPB
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 14, 2019
re: #138 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I still recall the halcyon days of a budget surplus under Clinton and Rush was explaining that it was immoral for the government to be collecting more money from us than it needed to operate.
Right
Don’t ever pay down the debt
Or save for future unplanned occurrences or
Or
Or
re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The Tree of Free Enterprise must occasionally be watered with the blood of consumers!
And then some sweat and tears to cover the warranty.
Do all of you generally accept this sentiment:
Watching the hearings today, I think they went a lot better than the Mueller hearings.
Dems learned a lot from the Mueller hearings.
•How to manage a hearing and prevent Republicans from doing crazy s-t
•The value of using a staff attorney
•How to plan out a series of questions that each member will ask, that fit into a coherent whole
•The importance of pre-screening the witness and planning out the questions
•The importance of a good and clear witness
•How to make questions clear and straightforwardthe Mueller hearings may not have been that great… but it does look like the Dems learned a lot !
I’ve tried many federal criminal cases, and Wednesday’s hearing looked a lot like trials in which the prosecution has the defendant on tape admitting to a crime. When defense attorneys can’t mount a defense on the merits, they raise a lot of peripheral issues in the hope of convincing at least one juror that there is reasonable doubt.
So every time you heard the Republican’s designated counsel ask about Hunter Biden’s language skills or one of the Republican members of the Intelligence Committee ask whether the Obama administration sold Javelin missiles to Ukraine, what you were actually hearing was a defense attorney doing his level best to avoid talking about what his client said on tape. It was chaotic and often unfocused, though not always. In fact, there were moments when members actually executed their playbook with some skill.
But they simply can’t overcome the abundant evidence Democrats possess to prove their central point—that President Donald Trump conditioned military aid to Ukraine on a public announcement that his political rival, Joe Biden, was under investigation.
re: #172 Belafon
I’ve tried many federal criminal cases, and Wednesday’s hearing looked a lot like trials in which the prosecution has the defendant on tape admitting to a crime. When defense attorneys can’t mount a defense on the merits, they raise a lot of peripheral issues in the hope of convincing at least one juror that there is reasonable doubt.
There will be no conviction unless the GOP-majority Senate has some major moral-civic epiphany, this trial is about presenting evidence to US voters in the hopes it will convince enough of them not to let DT back for a second term.
re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There will be no conviction unless the GOP-majority Senate has some major moral-civic epiphany, this trial is about presenting evidence to US voters in the hopes it will convince enough of them not to let DT back for a second term.
I fully expect McConnell to block the impeachment from ever taking place and he just needs a simple majority of the Communist Republicans to toss Roberts out of the chair. Of course he will give passes to wimps like Collins, Gardner and another one of his rubber stamps in a tight race (McSally)…
re: #164 The Pie Overlord!
What we need is a John Oliver musical extravaganza production number summarizing the impeachment hearings.
Tweet that shit to him! If they want circus, he would be a fabulous Caesar Flickerman!!
This guy is really good.
Fixed it.#TrumpErdoganMeeting pic.twitter.com/iiY5h1Aqjn
— Paul Lidicul (@PaulLidicul) November 14, 2019
Personal stuffs and suffs.
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re: #177 mmmirele
Personal stuffs and suffs.
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This is an official US government account amplifying a partisan opinion by a campaign advisor of the president suggesting impeachment is “overthrowing the government.” Should @WhiteHouse staff be describing a Constitutional process this way on this channel? Cc @ianbassin
— Alex Howard (@digiphile) November 14, 2019
re: #104 Decatur Deb
I think that the Democrats will just split into two sane parties, both sane and diverse. One will take the Blue Democrats, the others Centrist to Left Democrats. So far it hasn’t happened because splitting would give openings to those terrible Republicans. But should the Republicans disappear, there could be a new party.
“This is even bigger than the president. This is an attempt to overthrow the federal government from the inside.”
Exactly the same rhetoric used to describe the Clinton impeachment?
re: #180 CarolJ
I think that the Democrats will just split into two sane parties, both sane and diverse. One will take the Blue Democrats, the others Centrist to Left Democrats. So far it hasn’t happened because splitting would give openings to those terrible Republicans. But should the Republicans disappear, there could be a new party.
Wishful thinking. Narrow-minded bigots will never go away. There will more likely be a QAnon Party by the end of the next decade…
Picnicking Possums pic.twitter.com/yFEOeldsmy
— jeffreyw (@imjeffreyw) November 14, 2019
re: #105 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I’m not sure they can go back. The semi-rational Republican Party where they can work is gone. Unless they do a Soviet-style show trial confession, they will have little chance of working with the Trump Republican Party. And even then, as any member who has fled a cult realizes, there is no real coming back. The die-hards don’t trust them, and the habits of new independence unshakeable. When one has barfed up the Kool-Aid, one cannot drink it without gagging again.
Good morning Lizards!
There is a way to adjust a YouTube video so a flattering image displays as a still. That did not happen here. pic.twitter.com/GP76PC9yCx
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) November 14, 2019
I can’t wait for more Dems to join the race after suddenly realizing the fact now that Joe Biden is not a good campaigner! That being an epiphany just now is reason enough for derision to the Johnny-come-latelys . Sorry the billionaires haven’t found a candidate that will kiss their ass enough for their liking.
re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I don’t think the people will go away, there are still Communist Party members after all. But such a party lacks the ability to relate to anyone who doesn’t worship Trump, or wants reality-based governing with results (especially good ones)
The current lead story on Google News’ curated impeachment coverage is from…Fox News:
CAREER DIPLOMATS WITHSTAND GRILLING AT PARTISAN IMPEACHMENT HEARING
re: #184 CarolJ
I’m not sure they can go back. The semi-rational Republican Party where they can work is gone.
These are the “Don’t retreat, reload!” people. Any failure is due to other influences, not their own shortcomings.
They can only go farther down the rathole.
Trial balloon blows away as Trump threatens to fire the Intel Inspector General for “disloyalty”
At any other time, with any other president, this would be top of the news for weeks. with Trump? Just another fukin’ day at the office.
https://t.co/B5cTcg79vz— 🖕🏻Aunt Crabby calls Bullshit 🖕🏻 (@DearAuntCrabby) November 14, 2019
I’m now positive that people who claim to have seen aliens have actually just seen baby owls. pic.twitter.com/CAr65NG9qR
— Daniel Holland (@DannyDutch) November 14, 2019
re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
These are the “Don’t retreat, reload!” people. Any failure is due to other influences, not their own shortcomings.
They can only go farther down the rathole.
It’s not about their shortcomings. It’s that the people who would have worked with them before think of them as traitors, and lack even the basic grounding in reality for political success. One might as well yell at a door, than get these people to listen to any of the Never Trumper pundits and advisors.
The Republicans think of them as heretics, not merely people with differences of opinions that can be smoothed over with the restoration of the Republic. So there will be no clients to work with on the Republican side. Even those who might work with them will be cowed away from doing so.
moron is upset.
again
.@DanHenninger WSJ: Nancy Pelosi had it right the first time when she did not want to go down the Impeachment path. Make it a voting issue. But no, the Left insisted on raising this to the gravity of a constitutional crisis & Impeachment. The hearings suggested it’s not going…
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 14, 2019
….that the House Democrats have done since she’s become Speaker, other than chase Donald Trump.” This Impeachment Hoax is such a bad precedent and sooo bad for our Country!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 14, 2019
re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m now positive that people who claim to have seen aliens have actually just seen baby owls.
I can imagine having that reaction to stumbling across some of those in the dark…
re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth
moron is upset.
again
Ask Mitch to send you the stack of bills that the House has sent over that he has been sitting on…
re: #180 CarolJ
I think that the Democrats will just split into two sane parties, both sane and diverse. One will take the Blue Democrats, the others Centrist to Left Democrats. So far it hasn’t happened because splitting would give openings to those terrible Republicans. But should the Republicans disappear, there could be a new party.
In normal times, I would fall out of the Dems, to the left. These are not normal times, and I will never see normal times. Right now the only candidate criterion is electability—we must get rid of these fascist scum.
re: #133 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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The latter is a federal offense. Have you contacted @FBI ?— 🐄 Teo 🐄 (@Teukka72) November 14, 2019
Good morning from frigid western NY, where even county-level Republicans can’t resist the ol’ power grab. My home county elected its first Democratic county executive in a generation last week.
Guess what the R-controlled county legislature and the outgoing R county exec are trying to ram through before they leave office? A Wisconsin-style bill to limit the powers of the new D exec when he takes over.
I suspect the hands of ALEC at work behind the scenes, but I can’t prove it. And at least there’s a LOT of pushback because social media in town caught wind of this quickly.
re: #196 Decatur Deb
In normal times, I would fall out of the Dems, to the left. These are not normal times, and I will never see normal times. Right now the only candidate criterion is electability—we must get rid of these fascist scum.
And to think that there were times when I at least considered voting for GOP candidates…
re: #16 Decatur Deb
Alabama governor Kay Ivey has announced she has lung cancer. Alabama is the worst state on record, if you contract lung cancer.
In Alabama, lung cancer patients have the greatest risk of death
al.com
Hells Bells my mom died from lung cancer in Alabama I really can’t click the link
re: #197 Teukka
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If someone gets hurt because of the Facebook group. Facebook is responsible. pic.twitter.com/hJ7JWxpnIZ
The CPPCG and 18 USC § 1091 would indicate that @facebook could potentially be seen as accessories to the crime.
Which, by the way, is under universal jurisdiction.— 🐄 Teo 🐄 (@Teukka72) November 14, 2019
So who was the whistleblower on this “Private” FB group?
re: #200 Broad With Sass
Hells Bells my mom died from lung cancer in Alabama I really can’t click the link
Sorry. The article is mostly a recap of statistical standings among the states. It follows long-known discussion of access and costs.
Recanvass happening now in Kentucky.
No happiness for Bevin so far
Here’s the site where you can see the recanvasses coming in. So far there have been no differences reported.https://t.co/uNloZ0NkNx
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) November 14, 2019
re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth
Impeachment is in the US Constitution. Nothing about this is overthrowing the govt.
Trump was caught engaging in federal felonies. If removed from office, Pence becomes President. That’s how the Constitution works. You’re deflecting/dodging/lying and criming.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 14, 2019
re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth
Recanvass happening now in Kentucky.
No happiness for Bevin so far
Then on to plan B, start circulating rumors of “irregularities” and “voter fraud” among Democrats…
re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So who was the whistleblower on this “Private” FB group?
Who knows?
The thing is, White Nationalism plays on Group/Collective Narcissism [TL;DR Narcissism where the narcissistic entity is the persons ingroup rather than the self], which leads to the same sorts of effects as plain vanilla garden variety narcissism.
One such effect is delusions of grandeur. They believe that they are so great actors that they try to infiltrate outgroup chats and fora, not realizing that the personas they create are based on their own prejudiced and stereotypical views of the outgroup that they stick out worse than a sore thumb to the members of the outgroup.
But their view of their ingroup is so inflated that they don’t understand that, but rather WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH and REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE about $oro$, Roth$child, Illuminati, Jew, or whatever snitches and moles ratting them out. Their inflated view of themselves also leads them into the delusion that there is no way the stupid outgroups could ever uncover them. Which, of course, means that their OpSec and InfoSec practices leave :cough: a lot :cough: to be desired…
re: #205 lawhawk
I’m sure it was mentioned here yesterday. I was off book
If it’s a coup, see who benefits to figure out who’s behind it
(Ie Pence)
“This is even bigger than the president. This is an attempt to overthrow the federal government from the inside.”
More from Jenna Ellis Rives: https://t.co/TrB4dZyln3— The White House (@WhiteHouse) November 14, 2019
re: #201 Teukka
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Very fun when you go somewhere on a family gathering and the first thing that happens when you enter the country is you being arrested.
Happened in Sweden the other day.— 🐄 Teo 🐄 (@Teukka72) November 14, 2019
re: #198 i(m)p(each)sos
Good morning from frigid western NY, where even county-level Republicans can’t resist the ol’ power grab. My home county elected its first Democratic county executive in a generation last week.
Guess what the R-controlled county legislature and the outgoing R county exec are trying to ram through before they leave office? A Wisconsin-style bill to limit the powers of the new D exec when he takes over.
I suspect the hands of ALEC at work behind the scenes, but I can’t prove it. And at least there’s a LOT of pushback because social media in town caught wind of this quickly.
I read that over at Balloon Juice, from one of the posters there who lives in your district: balloon-juice.com
re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Then on to plan B, start circulating rumors of “irregularities” and “voter fraud” among Democrats…
they tried that yesterday; it did not go well.
Can’t believe Jacob Wohl isn’t here
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) November 13, 2019
wherefore art thou laura loomer
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) November 13, 2019
Yeah, so all of the claims made by that group were rather quickly debunked. They had not called any county clerks or looked into the claims themselves before holding a press conference. https://t.co/ckErTr8us2
— Daniel Desrochers (@drdesrochers) November 13, 2019
re: #209 Teukka
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— 🐄 Teo 🐄 (@Teukka72) November 14, 2019
heh
Looks like there was a slight change in Madison County, but did not affect margin between Bevin and Beshear… write in votes for — I’m not kidding — “Blackii Effing Whyte”
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) November 14, 2019
More Important BEW info: This is the address on his drivers license from “Boobie Ridge, KY” pic.twitter.com/5rYU8NI21W
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) November 14, 2019
re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth
they tried that yesterday; it did not go well.
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And those 2 mom’s children were not fathered by their respective husbands.
No proof of that, but by their figuring it is just as valid as their accusations. See how easy this is.
Three cows vanished during Hurricane Dorian. Months later, they’ve been found chilling on an island miles from shore. https://t.co/DmlLWXGts2
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) November 14, 2019
Hope she said this with some kind of laser or pyrotechnic show happening behind her so the press didn’t get bored.
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) November 14, 2019
Students evacuate after shooting at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita, California. https://t.co/D6PjO6Y4F7 pic.twitter.com/YD3iGA7Ol5
— NBC News (@NBCNews) November 14, 2019
Update: At least six victims in shooting at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita, LA County Fire Department says. https://t.co/9GmuwSlAyV
— NBC Los Angeles (@NBCLA) November 14, 2019
Jury deliberations underway in the Stone trial, and it’s a good time to remind the studio audience that Trump was implicated in that case as well.
Prosecutor: he was communicating with the Trump campaign about WikiLeaks’ plans every chance he got.
Roger Stone knew that if this information came out, it would look really bad for his longtime associate Donald Trump, so he lied to the committee.— Shimon Prokupecz (@ShimonPro) November 14, 2019
He lied about telling the Trump campaign about his conversations with the intermediary. He lied about his written communications with the intermediary, and he lied about his other written communications about Assange.
— Shimon Prokupecz (@ShimonPro) November 14, 2019
Read it all…
And there’s a good chance that the jury will return a verdict rather quickly seeing how Stone didn’t put up any defense witnesses and didn’t testify.
#Breaking: There are at least seven victims injured following a shooting at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita. The search continues for the shooter. https://t.co/2RhxhgL4Bw
— NBC Los Angeles (@NBCLA) November 14, 2019
re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth
re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Not sure it’s going to be worth it for Bevin, or the KY GOP - who, IIRC, would have to pay for a formal “recount”. The re-canvass is just reviewing and re-confirming reported numbers: the way these things usually play out is that one finds a few arithmetical errors and/or mis-reports from a few precincts, but it’s really unlikely that it is going to make up a 5,000+ vote difference.
More probably that Bevin is just being Bevin - i.e. an asshole - and going through the motions so he can grudgingly give up the Governorship and crawl off to RW radio or wherever so he can spend his time tweeting out stupid shit about being “robbed” of the election….
I worry that we are living in a world where Tech companies will never really be held accountable, legally or otherwise, for the actions of the users of their services.
They just don’t give a shit and they’ve paid enough politicians to insulate themselves from any adverse consequences they may otherwise face.
BREAKING UPDATE: At least one person has been struck by gunfire in a shooting outside Saugus High School in Santa Clarita. Authorities are searching for a male Asian suspect in black clothing. pic.twitter.com/DRULCfnGen
— CBS Los Angeles (@CBSLA) November 14, 2019
re: #203 Decatur Deb
I did click..and no shit they don’t do screening…Mom fell at the World’s Fair in TN…they thought they missed a rib fracture so a few weeks later they finally did the rib xray..no fracture just stage 4 lung cancer
As recently as a year ago, Facebook pretended to be apologetic about how one of its executives was a public supporter of Kavanaugh’s confirmation.
Now the mask is off. https://t.co/YLFC6gFSOS— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) November 14, 2019
re: #221 Jay C
More probably that Bevin is just being Bevin - i.e. an asshole - and going through the motions so he can grudgingly give up the Governorship and crawl off to RW radio or wherever so he can spend his time tweeting out stupid shit about being “robbed” of the election….
yep, he has nothing to lose for being a dickhead
Me sneaking past my boss’s office when I’m late for work.
📹: Imgur user WetBreadMan pic.twitter.com/faWl21NFaZ— Paul Bronks (@SlenderSherbet) November 14, 2019
re: #216 makeitstop
How do they know it wasn’t originally five?
Oh and ‘chilling’? What else were they gonna do? Build a raft and send ginger and Mary Ann for help?
re: #224 Eclectic Cyborg
“male Asian suspect”
And heeeeere come the racists!
Too sad but too true. This “Asian’s” family could have been Americans longer than the idiots making racist comments family have been American.
re: #224 Eclectic Cyborg
“male Asian suspect”
And heeeeere come the racists!
“If you didn’t say anything about the Las Vegash shooting, you can just be quiet.”
Pelosi with some serious shade for Trump: “If the president has something that is exculpatory — Mr. President, that means you have anything that shows your innocence — then he should make that known … so far we haven’t see that.” pic.twitter.com/2BMVk8wrgo
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 14, 2019
re: #231 Belafon
“If you didn’t say anything about the Las Vegash shooting, you can just be quiet.”
I don’t know a clip from a magazine so I’ll just sit here quietly
(Seriously though..we can’t normalize this. As daily an occurrence as it is)
re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth
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If I were Blackii, I’d definitely demand a recount….
PS: Just for fun, I googled images for boobie ridge ky 42070 : man, I certainly got what I expected….
Justice Department prosecutors made an impassioned plea for jurors to convict Roger Stone of lying to Congress, because “truth still matters,” even in our politically polarized times, and especially when our institutions are on the line. You should read it for yourself. pic.twitter.com/V5j5KRbwjF
— Marshall Cohen (@MarshallCohen) November 14, 2019
Everyone forgets that “Pretty Hate Machine” happened in the other timeline. In this, The Stupid Timeline, Rezner is married to Shania Twain and wrote and produced her big hit “Man! I feel like a woman”
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) November 14, 2019
Other items the FBI found on Parnas
-An envelope with $5k in $100 bills
-Two Rolex watches
-Five cell phones
-Eight credit/debit cards
-Trump campaign straws
-A blank check from the company he used—illegally, feds say—to make huge political donationshttps://t.co/E0me6aPOZg— Lachlan Markay (@lachlan) November 14, 2019
Or will there be something even further out of the box? A mass GOP walkout? A staged Brooks Brothers riot? Don’t say I’m being silly — they’ve got nothing, and will do anything to hide that reality 4/
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) November 14, 2019
Are there no public impeachment hearings today??
re: #236 gocart mozart
Trent is going for winning every music award available, whether he wants ‘em or not.
He’s already got the Grammy and Oscar and Golden Globe.
Color me impressed when they bring The Downward Spiral to Broadway and he wins a Tony. /half… I’d pay good money to see that.
(Yes I know it’s pronounce whitey, I don’t care I regret nothing)
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) November 14, 2019
70 counties now reporting…. no change in Beshear and Bevin totals. #kygov
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) November 14, 2019
There has been a shooting at Saugus High School, about 35 miles north of downtown Los Angeles. It’s been reported that there are at least six victims. The gunman is on the loose and nearby elementary schools are on lockdown.
We don’t have to live like this. https://t.co/91LN0fJOvy— Shannon Watts (@shannonrwatts) November 14, 2019
Good morning everyone!
It probably just confirms my being out of touch, but I had never heard the story about Mary Steenburgen waking up from surgery with “her brain full of music”. Apparently it caused a total redirect in her life.
re: #242 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Just another day in the NRA’s America.
At almost the exact moment news breaks of a school shooting in California, Sen. @ChrisMurphyCT made a Senate motion to consider the gun background check bill for a vote. The motion was blocked by Sen. @CindyHydeSmith (R-MS). pic.twitter.com/1mm6Sh0Hjm
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) November 14, 2019
That is hardly enough for a President, who should have the talent and vision to move the country forward; but Trump can even meet the bare minimum we expect for people who aren’t institutionalized or incarcerated. #ImpeachTrump
— aagcobb (@aagcobb1) November 14, 2019
I just came here to say something something rabbit hole Trent Reznor country something something but there’s another shooting and right now is the time to talk gun control.
If I ever get shot like that I give full permission to carry my blown apart carcass up and down the House of Reps while the putrid stench of my decomp wafts through every NRA sycophants nostrils.
Have at it.
re: #233 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
I don’t know a clip from a magazine so I’ll just sit here quietly
(Seriously though..we can’t normalize this. As daily an occurrence as it is)
The quotes around the statement were supposed to imply I was talking about the racists who will be commenting. Sorry I didn’t make that clear.
re: #236 gocart mozart
How Reznor wins a CMA award:
The story of the unlikely dominance of “Old Town Road” has plenty of twists and turns on its way to the fastest Diamond certification from the RIAA (denoting the equivalent of 10 million total units sold in the U.S.) of any song in history. In 2018, then-19-year-old Lil Nas X dropped out of college to pursue a music career. In October of that year, he found the YoungKio-produced beat he’d eventually use for “Old Town Road” online and purchased the rights to use it for a whopping $30. Since the site on which it was purchased was anonymous, YoungKio didn’t even realize his beat had been used for the track until it started to go viral on social media, particularly Tik-Tok.
Soon after “Old Town Road” was released, Trent Reznor got a call from Lil Nas X’s manager regarding clearance for a sample used in the production. As it turned out, YoungKio had used a snippet of a banjo part from Nine Inch Nails’ “34 Ghosts IV”, which appeared on 2008’s Ghosts I-IV. Reznor gave his blessing to the track’s sample. Soon after, country music stalwart Billy Ray Cyrus appeared on a remix of the track, which would go on to become a global sensation despite being controversially removed from the Billboard “Hot Country Songs” chart for “not [embracing] enough elements of today’s country music.”
As Reznor told Rolling Stone in October, “The way it was presented to me originally is I got a call from my management saying, ‘We got a call from a panicked manager saying they had used the sample of something off Ghosts. They should have cleared it, but it didn’t get cleared. It’s picking up some steam on the viral Spotify charts. What do you think about that?’ And I said, ‘Look, I’m fine with it. I get how stuff goes. They’re not saying they didn’t sample it. Just work it out, but don’t be a roadblock to this.’ I hadn’t heard it yet. Then a few weeks later, I was like, ‘Holy shit.’”
“At first, when you hear your stuff turned into something else, it always feels awkward because it’s something that intimately came from you in some way,” Reznor explained. He did, however, note that the song was “undeniably hooky.”
I’d like to offer my heartfelt thoughts (“Fuck you, you evil fascist stooge!) and prayers:
Let their lying lips be silenced,
for with pride and contempt
they speak arrogantly against the righteous.
(Psalm 31:18)
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— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 14, 2019
re: #252 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I’d like to offer my heartfelt thoughts (“Fuck you, you evil fascist stooge!) and prayers:
Let their lying lips be silenced,
for with pride and contempt
they speak arrogantly against the righteous.
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Bye snowflake.
re: #250 Belafon
The quotes around the statement were supposed to imply I was talking about the racists who will be commenting. Sorry I didn’t make that clear.
i knew what you meant
i probably should have quoted mine as well
i misuse quotes as much as sarc tags
meanwhile, in good news
thegreatpoolpondconversion is getting 20 yards of lake sand delivered momentarily
another appx 55,000 pounds we’ll have to move wheelbarrow by wheelbarrow…
(whose idea was this?)
This is significant. To reiterate, the fact that Trump and Sondland had an open line so Trump could get briefed every step of the way completely undercuts the GOP nonsense that the extortion piece of the plot was suddenly freelanced by Sondland. https://t.co/eF7zSNx8W0
— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) November 14, 2019
re: #256 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
meanwhile, in good news
thegreatpoolpondconversion is getting 20 yards of lake sand delivered momentarily
another appx 55,000 pounds we’ll have to move wheelbarrow by wheelbarrow…
(whose idea was this?)
Think what you’re saving on gym fees.
re: #251 Belafon
And this wasn’t Reznors first involvement with Country either. He (reluctantly at the time) agreed to allow his song “Hurt” to be covered by Johnny Cash about 15 years ago.
The result, and the the music video that went with it, is now considered one of the all time highlights of Country music.
re: #257 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
This is significant. To reiterate, the fact that Trump and Sondland had an open line so Trump could get briefed every step of the way completely undercuts the GOP nonsense that the extortion piece of the plot was suddenly freelanced by Sondland.
This was Trump’s baby from the get-go. He is ready to ignore almost every other aspect of governing except strong-arming people to do what he wants.
And there’s been a shooting at Saugus High, maybe 10-15 miles NE of here. 7 injured, 2 or 3 critically. Suspected shooter is…15. He may have shot himself, too, in the house where he fled.
And it will barely be news. We are so fucked.— Harry Turtledove (@HNTurtledove) November 14, 2019
re: #232 lawhawk
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Good, Pelosi understands you need to talk to this occupant of the oval office as if he were an 8 year old. Explain the big words to him.
re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
This was Trump’s baby from the get-go. He is ready to ignore almost every other aspect of governing except strong-arming people to do what he wants.
Must read from TPM’s Josh Kovensky - a reporter for Talking Points Memo in New York City. He previously worked for the Kyiv Post in Ukraine, covering politics, business, and corruption there.
Can’t recommend this story strongly enough. Critical to understanding how the Ukraine plot happened. Trump/Rudy had a deal with the old team. But Zelenskys election changed everything and set off a scramble to make him sign on. https://t.co/GClaCpEyyT via @TPM
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 14, 2019
Live stream, Saugus high school shooting. Suspect is a student. Lockdown lifted for other schools.
Assuming Roger Stone is convicted, would trial transcripts of testimony that contrasts with Trump’s written answers under oath on the same topic (and he’s said, on camera, that it wasn’t his lawyers writing those answers, he wrote them himself), add a perjury charge to the articles of impeachment? IIRC, Republicans in the Clinton impeachment seemed to think lying under oath was sort of a big deal…
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re: #265 sagehen
Assuming Roger Stone is convicted, would trial transcripts of testimony that contrasts with Trump’s written answers under oath on the same topic (and he’s said, on camera, that it wasn’t his lawyers writing those answers, he wrote them himself), add a perjury charge to the articles of impeachment? IIRC, Republicans in the Clinton impeachment seemed to think lying under oath was sort of a big deal…
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There is no way Trump could testify without contradicting either himself or other sworn testimony.
re: #265 sagehen
Assuming Roger Stone is convicted, would trial transcripts of testimony that contrasts with Trump’s written answers under oath on the same topic (and he’s said, on camera, that it wasn’t his lawyers writing those answers, he wrote them himself), add a perjury charge to the articles of impeachment? IIRC, Republicans in the Clinton impeachment seemed to think lying under oath was sort of a big deal…
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Speaking of which - what the hell is taking so long with these deliberations? The guy didn’t even present a defense, for cryin’ out loud.
Makes me a little nervous that they haven’t returned a verdict yet, TBH.
re: #265 sagehen
Assuming Roger Stone is convicted, would trial transcripts of testimony that contrasts with Trump’s written answers under oath on the same topic (and he’s said, on camera, that it wasn’t his lawyers writing those answers, he wrote them himself), add a perjury charge to the articles of impeachment? IIRC, Republicans in the Clinton impeachment seemed to think lying under oath was sort of a big deal…
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It’s really up to the House leadership and committees dealing with impeachment. In a broad impeachment inquiry, sure, it ties in with the obstruction of justice narrative tied to the Mueller investigation. And as Pelosi said this morning, all roads lead to Putin, so it ties into the larger story as well.
re: #267 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I’d try it.
re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There is no way Trump could testify without contradicting either himself or other sworn testimony.
trump can’t spit out two sentences without contradicting himself.
re: #267 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Nope
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Mmm…I would totally try that…if it didn’t taste like pumpkin pie.
re: #268 makeitstop
Speaking of which - what the hell is taking so long with these deliberations? The guy didn’t even present a defense, for cryin’ out loud.
Makes me a little nervous that they haven’t returned a verdict yet, TBH.
They always say a quick verdict benefits the defense. So…
The trumpster contacts on my FB think that the R’s are destroying the Dems in the hearings. In particular, Gym has been devastatingly good and is making the Dems soil their shorts.
Also, Schiff is a bug-eyed freak and an idiot. The hearings are a sham because everything is hearsay and there’s no evidence of wrong doing. Annnd what the Dems are doing is illegal and they’re are just attacking tRump because they hate him. It is, in fact, a witch hunt.
Did you know that tRump has kept every single promise he’s made? Yep. The economy is perfect. Look at all he’s accomplished!! The leftists’ democrat party just can’t handle the truth.
re: #271 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
trump can’t spit out two sentences without contradicting himself.
because he is used to nobody calling him out on it
re: #274 plansbandc
So, no convincing them. And I’m pretty sure the economy tanking will be because the wall wasn’t built or something.
re: #252 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I’d like to offer my heartfelt thoughts (“Fuck you, you evil fascist stooge!) and prayers:
Let their lying lips be silenced,
for with pride and contempt
they speak arrogantly against the righteous.
(Psalm 31:18)[Embedded content]
Hope he can find a safe place from all those thugs murdering with their words.
re: #256 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
meanwhile, in good news
thegreatpoolpondconversion is getting 20 yards of lake sand delivered momentarily
another appx 55,000 pounds we’ll have to move wheelbarrow by wheelbarrow…
(whose idea was this?)
Yeah but when you’re all done you can sit back and say, “Damn every muscle I have hurts like hell!”.
re: #268 makeitstop
Speaking of which - what the hell is taking so long with these deliberations? The guy didn’t even present a defense, for cryin’ out loud.
Makes me a little nervous that they haven’t returned a verdict yet, TBH.
It would take only one trumpster on the jury to prevent a decision. That said, having been on a jury myself (for a ridiculous case that belonged before Judge Judy), we delayed reaching a final verdict so that we could get a free lunch. Of course, jury deliberations were immediately after a the brief trial and we were starving.
Again asking:
Why was Erdogan invited to our White House?
Why did GOP senators agree to meet with him and Trump in the Oval Office?
Why is this dictator who killed hundreds and displaced over 100,000 Kurd allowed this stature?
What is happening to our foreign policy?— Amy Siskind 🏳️🌈 (@Amy_Siskind) November 14, 2019
re: #271 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
trump can’t spit out two sentences without contradicting himself.
Weren’t his answers phrased in a way to prevent contradiction? For example, instead of saying “we did not talk”, his statement was “I do not recall any such conversation”.
re: #232 lawhawk
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This might be a little concern trolly on my part, but the concern with her statement is that it absolutely tees up their ability to yammer about “due process”.
re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m waiting on the Trump/Putin/Erdogan/KJU group shot.
re: #274 plansbandc
The trumpster contacts on my FB think that the R’s are destroying the Dems in the hearings. In particular, Gym has been devastatingly good and is making the Dems soil their shorts.
Also, Schiff is a bug-eyed freak and an idiot. The hearings are a sham because everything is hearsay and there’s no evidence of wrong doing. Annnd what the Dems are doing is illegal and they’re are just attacking tRump because they hate him. It is, in fact, a witch hunt.
Did you know that tRump has kept every single promise he’s made? Yep. The economy is perfect. Look at all he’s accomplished!! The leftists’ democrat party just can’t handle the truth.
Seeing the same. It amazes me how they have this separate reality.
re: #276 Belafon
Not gonna happen. These people are lost forever.
re: #283 Mike Lamb
This might be a little concern trolly on my part, but the concern with her statement is that it absolutely tees up their ability to yammer about “due process”.
We’re in the evidence gathering phase to convince a grand jury. It would be useful for him to present what he has to cast doubt on the need for a trial.
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re: #283 Mike Lamb
This might be a little concern trolly on my part, but the concern with her statement is that it absolutely tees up their ability to yammer about “due process”.
Here’s the thing about arguing “due process” if you think the process isn’t fair, you need to be able to say what process you believe is “due” under the circumstances. If you say “we can’t present evidence” and the other side says “ok, come here and testify” and you say “fuck no” well then you don’t really have a due process argument. You have a tantrum.
re: #287 Belafon
We’re in the evidence gathering phase to convince a grand jury. It would be useful for him to present what he has to cast doubt on the need for a trial.
I fully understand where we are in the process. Right now, it isn’t about excupaltory evidence. It’s about whether there is probable cause that a crime occurred (using these terms more conversationally), with the ability to introduce exculpatory evidence in the Senate. But she’s walking into their talking points a bit with her phrasing.
(And as I said, I know this comes off a bit like a concern troll statement, but it just jumped out at me when I read her statement. I don’t have issues with how she’s been handling things, though).
re: #258 Decatur Deb
Think what you’re saving on gym fees.
rough calculation, 125 wheelbarrow loads…
maybe we could get people to pay us to shovel and haul the sand around
a very new kind of workout, very exclusive, only one location, be the first!
re: #285 HappyWarrior
Seeing the same. It amazes me how they have this separate reality.
Remember the inauguration crowd photos. That summed it up for me. One nation, two realities.
re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
This was Trump’s baby from the get-go. He is ready to ignore almost every other aspect of governing except strong-arming people to do what he wants.
as this drip drip drips he will not get away with reagan’s “i had no idea what was going on under my nose)
re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Remember the inauguration crowd photos. That summed it up for me. One nation, two realities.
Yep.
re: #290 Mike Lamb
I fully understand where we are in the process. Right now, it isn’t about excupaltory evidence. It’s about whether there is probable cause that a crime occurred (using these terms more conversationally), with the ability to introduce exculpatory evidence in the Senate. But she’s walking into their talking points a bit with her phrasing.
(And as I said, I know this comes off a bit like a concern troll statement, but it just jumped out at me when I read her statement. I don’t have issues with how she’s been handling things, though).
Not really. The only thing preventing Trump and other administration officials from testifying is… Trump. If they had evidence that benefited them, that proved there’s no impeachable conduct, they could testify to such. Hell, Trump himself could testify before Congress (Ford did this regarding the Nixon pardons). If anything, she’s calling their bluff because she knows - like anyone who has paid attention to this investigation knows - they have nothing because they are guilty as fucking fuck.
re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Remember the inauguration crowd photos. That summed it up for me. One nation, two realities.
Trump will probably go nuts when he sees the inauguration crowd for the next Democratic President.
re: #262 Eventual Carrion
Good, Pelosi understands you need to talk to this occupant of the oval office as if he were an 8 year old. Explain the big words to him.
…and everybody else
re: #289 KGxvi
Here’s the thing about arguing “due process” if you think the process isn’t fair, you need to be able to say what process you believe is “due” under the circumstances. If you say “we can’t present evidence” and the other side says “ok, come here and testify” and you say “fuck no” well then you don’t really have a due process argument. You have a tantrum.
Seriously, they can’t cry about what Taylor and Kent testified to and then be totally okay with Trump not allowing Mulvaney and Pompeo to testify.
re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg
Trump will probably go nuts when he sees the inauguration crowd for the next Democratic President.
If he were to go on trial for his crimes, it would be the most covered trial in history. And we know how much he loves his ratings.
re: #256 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
meanwhile, in good news
thegreatpoolpondconversion is getting 20 yards of lake sand delivered momentarily
another appx 55,000 pounds we’ll have to move wheelbarrow by wheelbarrow…
(whose idea was this?)
So when my daughter was in the local Kindergarten, they got a truckload of sand delivered to the front of the property. But the sand pit was at the back, so they called on parents to come help wheelbarrow the sand to the back of the lot.
Three years later, our younger daughters were attending the same Kindergarten and they got another truckload of sand delivered. I came to realize that in the course of that time, an entire truckload of sand had been taken out in small increments in kids’ shoes, pockets, trouser cuffs, hair, nostrils, etc…
re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg
And this wasn’t Reznors first involvement with Country either. He (reluctantly at the time) agreed to allow his song “Hurt” to be covered by Johnny Cash about 15 years ago.
The result, and the the music video that went with it, is now considered one of the all time highlights of Country music.
I admit to being no fan of country music, but if I’d written a song at some point and then later got a call from my agent that Johnny Cash wanted to cover it, I’d have considered that the greatest honor imaginable.
The whistleblower name has not been produced through official channels. Schiff has made clear his staffer has not revealed the name to him. Therefore, Schiff is in exactly the same spot as all Republicans on HPSCI. The difference is he’s playing by the rules and they won’t.
— Susan Hennessey (@Susan_Hennessey) November 14, 2019
re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
There is no way Trump could testify without contradicting either himself or other sworn testimony.
his written answers to mueller
clinton only lied to a grand jury
trump’s is multi levels higher
he lied directly to the special counsel under his own DOJ
re: #291 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
rough calculation, 125 wheelbarrow loads…
maybe we could get people to pay us to shovel and haul the sand around
a very new kind of workout, very exclusive, only one location, be the first!
I’ve actually thought of setting up an “exercise” place along those lines. Have a place that really is a place for building things like furniture or cabinets or other stuff. Have all of the equipment and some people to help. And charge them to be busy. If they want to build something for themselves, they can pay for the additional materials. But the place will have projects being worked on, and they can contribute to that.
Whoa…
Ever wanted to work on a Star Trek TV show?
(Okay, all of you raised your hands immediately. Should have seen that coming.)
In Star Trek: Discovery, Sylvia Tilly works super-hard to get herself into the Command Training Program, which eventually will set her up on the road to becoming a starship captain. Now, CBS and the Star Trek franchise are bringing that concept into the real world, by announcing the Command Training Program: a paid internship program.
The New Star Trek TV Shows Are Hiring Paid Interns for the Job of a Lifetime
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— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) November 14, 2019
re: #301 Dr Lizardo
I admit to being no fan of country music, but if I’d written a song at some point and then later got a call from my agent that Johnny Cash wanted to cover it, I’d have considered that the greatest honor imaginable.
“My first answer is yes, he’s Johnny Cash, of course he can cover my song. Secondly, when can I meet him?” Honestly, I love what Johnny did at the end of his career covering other songs and putting his own take on them. He had a nice version of Redemption Song too.
re: #274 plansbandc
The trumpster contacts on my FB think that the R’s are destroying the Dems in the hearings. In particular, Gym has been devastatingly good and is making the Dems soil their shorts.
Also, Schiff is a bug-eyed freak and an idiot. The hearings are a sham because everything is hearsay and there’s no evidence of wrong doing. Annnd what the Dems are doing is illegal and they’re are just attacking tRump because they hate him. It is, in fact, a witch hunt.
Did you know that tRump has kept every single promise he’s made? Yep. The economy is perfect. Look at all he’s accomplished!! The leftists’ democrat party just can’t handle the truth.
re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg
And this wasn’t Reznors first involvement with Country either. He (reluctantly at the time) agreed to allow his song “Hurt” to be covered by Johnny Cash about 15 years ago.
The result, and the the music video that went with it, is now considered one of the all time highlights of Country music.
That Johnny Cash version is total fucking goosebumps stuff…
re: #279 Eventual Carrion
Yeah but when you’re all done you can sit back and say, “Damn every muscle I have hurts like hell!”.
and we do many sundays
and it is all so well worth it
re: #305 William Lewis
College students. I am sad.
re: #307 wrenchwench
Ooooh, lawyer talk in the morning.
Sorry, sometimes I slip into technical legal jargon.
re: #311 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That Johnny Cash version is total fucking goosebumps stuff…
I always looked at is as Johnny’s farewell to the world. Man I miss him. There are so many great artists that I wish were still with us that have left us in my lifetime: Johnny comes to mind but also George Harrison, Joe Strummer, David Bowie, and I know I’m missing more.
re: #301 Dr Lizardo
I admit to being no fan of country music, but if I’d written a song at some point and then later got a call from my agent that Johnny Cash wanted to cover it, I’d have considered that the greatest honor imaginable.
Ken Burn’s piece on country music actually talked about that. The guy who helped Cash do that album and a previous one had been known for doing albums for some rock musicians, and so people on the country side thought it was a goofy thing for someone like Cash to do. And the first album didn’t really get much attention. But, as was stated, Hurt just blew everyone away.
re: #311 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
That Johnny Cash version is total fucking goosebumps stuff…
Simply one of the greatest covers ever.
re: #317 Belafon
Ken Burn’s piece on country music actually talked about that. The guy who helped Cash do that album and a previous one had been known for doing albums for some rock musicians, and so people on the country side thought it was a goofy thing for someone like Cash to do. And the first album didn’t really get much attention. But, as was stated, Hurt just blew everyone away.
Rick Rubin is who I think you’re talking about.
re: #315 HappyWarrior
I always looked at is as Johnny’s farewell to the world. Man I miss him. There are so many great artists that I wish were still with us that have left us in my lifetime: Johnny comes to mind but also George Harrison, Joe Strummer, David Bowie, and I know I’m missing more.
re: #288 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
this is what i was talking about yesterday
finding out my doctor is a ham radio ace
or that some of you have lives and issues far beyond lgf and the internet (gasp)
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Gene Clark is a guy I’ve sort of discovered lately. I’ve always liked The Byrds but I hadn’t listened to Gene’s stuff he did outside of them and it’s quite good. I still can’t tell you if I like the Gram style Byrds that has more country or the McQuinn that is more folk style. Both were great.
re: #323 HappyWarrior
Two of the greatest ever at their craft.
They should have recorded as Johnny Clash… ;)
re: #322 HappyWarrior
He made it his own.
Oh, definitely. IIRC, Trent Reznor remarked, “That’s not my song anymore” or something to that effect.
re: #318 Dr Lizardo
Simply one of the greatest covers ever.
I think the best covers take a song from one genre and give it a make over in another. That’s what Cash did with Hurt, it went from a hard alt rock song to a (acoustic?) country song.
re: #325 William Lewis
They should have recorded as Johnny Clash… ;)
Man that would have been perfect. Hopefully that’s happening in the great recording studio in the sky. That’s the kind of thing that makes me wanna believe.
re: #326 Dr Lizardo
Oh, definitely. IIRC, Trent Reznor remarked, “That’s not my song anymore” or something to that effect.
Yeah something like that.
re: #290 Mike Lamb
I fully understand where we are in the process. Right now, it isn’t about excupaltory evidence. It’s about whether there is probable cause that a crime occurred (using these terms more conversationally), with the ability to introduce exculpatory evidence in the Senate. But she’s walking into their talking points a bit with her phrasing.
(And as I said, I know this comes off a bit like a concern troll statement, but it just jumped out at me when I read her statement. I don’t have issues with how she’s been handling things, though).
what you say is all true
and it’s still a political process as much as a legal one.
the R’s bloviating and grandstanding won’t affect the legality of the case
while yes some of the D’s posturing might affect some public opinion
re: #327 KGxvi
I think the best covers take a song from one genre and give it a make over in another. That’s what Cash did with Hurt, it went from a hard alt rock song to a (acoustic?) country song.
IMO if you stick with the cover in the same genre, sometimes it ends up sounding like really good karaoke but if you do a new take on it, you can give it an entirely new sound. Here’s a nice example. Milk Carton Kids doing Pink Floyd.
re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg
Trump will probably go nuts when he sees the inauguration crowd for the next Democratic President.
i dare him to tweet “mine was bigger”
re: #298 HappyWarrior
Seriously, they can’t cry about what Taylor and Kent testified to and then be totally okay with Trump not allowing Mulvaney and Pompeo to testify.
they can and they’re gonna try
re: #301 Dr Lizardo
I admit to being no fan of country music, but if I’d written a song at some point and then later got a call from my agent that Johnny Cash wanted to cover it, I’d have considered that the greatest honor imaginable.
Agreed, though Reznor ultimately thought the Cash version kicked serious ass. From the Wikipedia entry on the song:
When Reznor was asked if Cash could cover his song, Reznor said he was “flattered” but worried that “the idea sounded a bit gimmicky.” He became a fan of Cash’s version, however, once he saw the music video.
“I pop the video in, and wow… Tears welling, silence, goose-bumps… Wow. [I felt like] I just lost my girlfriend, because that song isn’t mine anymore… It really made me think about how powerful music is as a medium and art form. I wrote some words and music in my bedroom as a way of staying sane, about a bleak and desperate place I was in, totally isolated and alone. [Somehow] that winds up reinterpreted by a music legend from a radically different era/genre and still retains sincerity and meaning - different, but every bit as pure.”
re: #333 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
they can and they’re gonna try
Oh yeah. I don’t think they’re going to succeed outside the FNC/Trump is never wrong echo chamber though.
re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So when my daughter was in the local Kindergarten, they got a truckload of sand delivered to the front of the property. But the sand pit was at the back, so they called on parents to come help wheelbarrow the sand to the back of the lot.
Three years later, our younger daughters were attending the same Kindergarten and they got another truckload of sand delivered. I came to realize that in the course of that time, an entire truckload of sand had been taken out in small increments in kids’ shoes, pockets, trouser cuffs, hair, nostrils, etc…
yeah
but also wind and maybe some percolation into the soil under…
same with horse paddocks - (what, did they eat the stuff?)
re: #304 Belafon
I’ve actually thought of setting up an “exercise” place along those lines. Have a place that really is a place for building things like furniture or cabinets or other stuff. Have all of the equipment and some people to help. And charge them to be busy. If they want to build something for themselves, they can pay for the additional materials. But the place will have projects being worked on, and they can contribute to that.
It’s called “Habitat for Humanity.”
re: #302 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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this is a perfect example
it’s all posturing
since we all know most if not all the WB statements have been independently corroborated, there’s no putting this back in the bottle
doesnt affect what eventual article of impeachment look like
or what happens at the trial
there’s no ‘admissability’ rule or poisonous tree
the process will go forward
re: #339 sagehen
It’s called “Habitat for Humanity.”
Which would be fine, but I would need to show up for about 30 mintes to an hour, 3 or more times a week, when I get off work or late in the evening, and it would need to be relatively close.
re: #288 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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My good friends father-in-law helps out at a model train shoppe here in our county seat. He is friends with the owner (drummer for the band “The Clark’s”). So I could see Rod liking the relaxation of model train building.
Also works as a tie in with Trent Reznor as The Clark’s have worked with Trent on a couple occasions. Trent grew up between my hometown and the county seat, so was another local boy. And dad still has a Reznor heater in his pole barn. Trent’s relatives no longer own the factory, but the owners still use the name.
Neil Young is huge into model trains, too.
re: #316 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
what a perforated amphora!
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oh yeah. that’s what i was going for ;-)
I’m not really familiar with Trent’s music but he’s from the same part of Pennsylvania where my father’s maternal grandfather was born. Pap Pap wasn’t there long though. Was in his father’s hometown of then Allegheny City by his first appearance in a census record. I have no idea what brought his father to Mercer County but I see it’s in the Youngstown metro area and there’s some evidence that suggests Pap Pap’s mother was from Youngstown though I have nothing on her before 1870.
re: #336 Belafon
Yeah.
Rubin gets around. He made his bones producing the Beastie Boys, but he went way beyond that genre. Just take a look at this roster.
Along with Russell Simmons, he is the co-founder of Def Jam Recordings and also established American Recordings. With the Beastie Boys, LL Cool J, Public Enemy, Geto Boys, and Run-DMC, Rubin helped popularize hip hop music. Rubin has also worked with artists from other genres such as Adele, Linkin Park, AC/DC, Kanye West, Johnny Cash, Justin Timberlake, Metallica, Slayer, System of A Down, Rage Against The Machine, Suitors of Penelope, Limp Bizkit, and Slipknot amongst others.
re: #343 Barefoot Grin
Neil Young is huge into model trains, too.
Ringo Starr too. When I was a little kid. We had an old Lionel train. I always insisted that we have it go around the base of the Christmas Tree. Was really happy to see last Christmas that my brother wanted to do the same for my niece with the tree and a train..
re: #319 HappyWarrior
Rick Rubin is who I think you’re talking about.
Co-founder of DefJam, produced Beastie Boys, Run-DMC, LL Cool J.
“We haven’t heard from the President yet….”
And you won’t Ali…. it’s California.
re: #350 Dave In Austin
“We haven’t heard from the President yet….”
And you won’t Ali…. it’s California.
If we do, it will be an attack on Governor Newsom, Speaker Pelosi, and Rep Schiff.
re: #324 HappyWarrior
Gene Clark is a guy I’ve sort of discovered lately. I’ve always liked The Byrds but I hadn’t listened to Gene’s stuff he did outside of them and it’s quite good. I still can’t tell you if I like the Gram style Byrds that has more country or the McQuinn that is more folk style. Both were great.
Congats on discovering Gene Clark! He had a lot of trouble getting along with record execs so his ouput is pretty disjointed, but he was recording country rock before The Byrds got there. Go look for “The Fantastic Adventures of Dillard and Clark. That may be his best album, along with “No Other”.
He died very young due to the effects of heavy drinking.
re: #274 plansbandc
The trumpster contacts on my FB think that the R’s are destroying the Dems in the hearings. In particular, Gym has been devastatingly good and is making the Dems soil their shorts.
Also, Schiff is a bug-eyed freak and an idiot. The hearings are a sham because everything is hearsay and there’s no evidence of wrong doing. Annnd what the Dems are doing is illegal and they’re are just attacking tRump because they hate him. It is, in fact, a witch hunt.
Did you know that tRump has kept every single promise he’s made? Yep. The economy is perfect. Look at all he’s accomplished!! The leftists’ democrat party just can’t handle the truth.
Sounds just like my family. They worship God’s Anointed King!
re: #352 stpaulbear
Congats on discovering Gene Clark! He had a lot of trouble getting along with record execs so his ouput is pretty disjointed, but he was recording country rock before The Byrds got there. Go look for “The Fantastic Adventures of Dillard and Clark. That may be his best album, along with “No Other”.
He died very young due to the effects of heavy drinking.
I did discover Dillard and Clark too. I really like this one.
Such a beautiful song.
re: #352 stpaulbear
Gah. It’s “Expeditions”, not “Adventures”.
re: #324 HappyWarrior
Gene Clark is a guy I’ve sort of discovered lately. I’ve always liked The Byrds but I hadn’t listened to Gene’s stuff he did outside of them and it’s quite good. I still can’t tell you if I like the Gram style Byrds that has more country or the McQuinn that is more folk style. Both were great.
yes, I remember hearing this piece on an underground FM station in Chicago as a teenager, and only recently discovered who it was
re: #347 HappyWarrior
Ringo Starr too. When I was a little kid. We had an old Lionel train. I always insisted that we have it go around the base of the Christmas Tree. Was really happy to see last Christmas that my brother wanted to do the same for my niece with the tree and a train..
i’ve got my dad’s lionel train set from the 1930s. in some of the original boxes too
i think if we plugged that transformer in we’d take down the power grid
re: #353 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
walk on the wild side made me have to play this
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He hired the most badass pair of rock guitarists for that band - Steve Hunter and Dick Wagner. Those guys ghosted guitar parts for everyone from Aerosmith and Peter Gabriel to Alice Cooper. They were both in one lineup of Coop’s band.
Live updates: Second official overheard Trump’s call with E.U. envoy
The president’s assessment came a day after a historic open hearing in which two career diplomats expressed concerns about the Trump’s actions regarding Ukraine.
Read in The Washington Post: apple.news
re: #291 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
rough calculation, 125 wheelbarrow loads…
maybe we could get people to pay us to shovel and haul the sand around
a very new kind of workout, very exclusive, only one location, be the first!
Should get them to whitewash your fence too while you’re at it.
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