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Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch testifies on Impeach Inquiry before House Intelligence Cmte – LIVE at 9am ET on C-SPAN2, C-SPAN Radio & online here: cs.pn

Our so-called president is actually engaging in witness intimidation while Ambassador Yovanovitch is testifying.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:24:12am

Just 30 seconds in and I want to smack cow boy for his condescending assholiness.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:24:32am
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wrenchwench  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:25:01am

I only see his tweets here (blocked there).

Thank you for sharing the newsworthy ones.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:25:10am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:25:55am

CL’d on last thread:

re: #380 Ace Rothstein

I don’t know how many more of these Infrastructure Weeks I can handle.

I don’t know, this last one has been kind of fun: Bevin goes up in smoke, Trump admin ground into dust at the Impeachment hearings, Stone guilty on all counts.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:26:26am

Mooooo!!!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:26:45am

And FOX already has commentators talking about how “witness intimidation is not mentioned in the Constitution.”

Pretty weak on it’s face. And very indicative of a complete lack of principles, integrity, and understanding of law and civics. But it’s Fox, so I repeat myself.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:26:51am

She doesn’t look like the crying type.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:27:11am

Schiff is taking zero shit today, shutting down Nunes’ attempt to end run the rules.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:27:44am

schiff is taking no shit from nunes or stefanik

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Amory Blaine  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:28:02am

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:28:06am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:28:14am

JFC he just added another impeachment article in real time.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:28:29am

re: #9 makeitstop

Schiff is taking zero shit today, shutting down Nunes’ attempt to end run the rules.

gmta

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:28:40am

re: #9 makeitstop

The only response here is “Elections have Consequences”.

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Mescalero09  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:28:41am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I see new tattoos in his future.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:30:04am

castor is trying to bracket this as between may and september

she’s here because it started way before that

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:30:44am

GOP counsel is really bad at this.

Gotta run some errands. I’ll check in on what NYC news radio’s take is on all this. Later.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:31:01am

re: #16 Mescalero09

I see new tattoos in his future.

Makes a Long Time Man Feel Bad

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gocart mozart  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:31:33am
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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:35:09am

She’s so much smarter and better spoken than the creepy Republicans, including their dipshit lawyer.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:35:53am

From downstairs.
re: #385 lawhawk

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:36:08am

Keep blabbing Donnie, keep blabbing.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:36:45am

re: #21 BeachDem

They get dumber every election. Soon they’ll be grunting and throwing poo.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:37:18am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:37:46am

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

Keep blabbing Donnie, keep blabbing.

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Actually try making a criminal case instead of crying like a baby on your Twitter safe space or calling Hannity to massage your balls.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:38:34am

re: #25 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

NOM NOM NOM!

I so love it when the right eats itself!

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:38:47am

Listening to NPR on the drive out to the country today; they did an extended report on Parnas and Fruman’s Giuliani connection, their involvement in trying to get Yovanovich ousted, the mystery of where their money was and is coming from. Anyone getting a grounding in the background of all this should be coming to an understanding that the Trump administration is involved in multiple criminal conspiracies, and Republicans are doing their damnedest to cover up, support, and further these crimes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:39:11am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:39:18am
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Jay C  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:40:08am

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

Keep blabbing Donnie, keep blabbing.

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OK: I know I try to keep up with the latest latest, but I’ll admit, this one escapes me: WTH is “Ohr and Nellie”??

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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:40:38am

re: #29 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Wasn’t he lying about his contacts with Wikileaks?

Man, Tracey is a clown.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:42:21am

re: #29 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Uh, one of those counts involved Wikileaks, Mikey. But that won’t stop your sorry ass from lying!

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Amory Blaine  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:42:35am

Hope Stone doesn’t get Epsteined.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:42:55am

re: #25 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Milo needs to be deported

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:44:46am
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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:46:17am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:46:48am

re: #36 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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When did Donald switch topics and start talking about how the media is portraying the GOP and his administration?

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:47:10am

re: #31 Jay C

OK: I know I try to keep up with the latest latest, but I’ll admit, this one escapes me: WTH is “Ohr and Nellie”??

Briefly, from Wiki:

Bruce Ohr is a United States Department of Justice official. A former associate deputy attorney general and former director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF)…In 2018, Ohr became the subject of right-wing conspiracy theories which alleged that he played an important role in starting the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election.[5][6] The conspiracy theories allege that the origins of the Russia probe were biased and were intended to undermine then-candidate Trump.[6] President Trump and many Republicans have falsely claimed the Steele dossier was used to start the investigation…According to a Republican-led investigation, during the 2016 election, Fusion GPS hired Bruce’s wife, Nellie Ohr, an independent contractor and Russia specialist, to conduct “research and analysis” of Donald Trump.[11][13][14] A comprehensive report done by ABC News disputes that Ohr’s wife worked on the dossier, instead stating that she “was not directly involved in the ‘dossier’ while she worked for Fusion GPS.”[3]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:47:25am

re: #36 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So they now convict Roger Stone of lying and want to jail him for many years to come. Well, what about Crooked Hillary, Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper, Shifty Schiff, Ohr & Nellie, Steele & all of the others, including even Mueller himself? Didn’t they lie?….

So you are admitting between the lines that Stone is as guilty as they are…

But it doesn’t matter because her e-mails…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:48:37am

I’d like to see him tell us what crimes they committed and explain how. But this is someone who thinks you sue for treason.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:48:38am
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wrenchwench  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:48:40am
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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:48:44am

Castor really doesn’t seem to be good at his job.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:48:56am
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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:52:01am

Who’s the guy sitting behind Castor? He looks like Harvey Weinstein.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:52:15am

@emptywheel

Castor, who is supposed to be defending Trump, is now asking Yovanovich to lay out all the ways that corrupt billionaires who’ve acquired power via improper means hurt a country.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:54:32am

re: #47 jaunte

@emptywheel

Rudy should hire him. He could turn a jaywalking ticket into a murder conviction!
//

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:55:26am
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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:57:51am

Like, Castor is really bad at his job.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:57:59am
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:58:11am

re: #7 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The regulation of children not being able to buy semi-automatic handguns isn’t mentioned in the Constitution either.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:58:44am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:59:15am

re: #52 Ace Rothstein

The regulation of children not being able to buy semi-automatic handguns isn’t mentioned in the Constitution either.

Nor is Net Neutrality

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2019 • 9:59:17am

re: #16 Mescalero09

I see new tattoos in his future.

The Russian mob have some great prison tats, I hear.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:00:12am
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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:00:46am

Is there a tactic called “Droning” where you bore the witness into stumbling?

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:00:48am

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Ambulatory flea infested merkins?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:01:10am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:02:30am

re: #59 Charles Johnson

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It’s performance art.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:02:55am

shes doing pretty well not giving him an inch o nthis nonsense

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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:03:12am

Outside of insinuating that Manafort was set up, I have no idea what Castor is doing. His body language and presence is awful. His questions are meandering. There is no unified thread to his questioning. Bad bad bad.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:03:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:03:34am

re: #59 Charles Johnson

It’s so weird to see someone who purports to be a genuine attorney asking these wacky questions based on long-debunked conspiracy theories. But this is where the GOP has ended up, in the cul-de-sac of batshit.

They did not want to debunk or even distance themselves from the most outrageous conspiracy theories for fear of alienating their base, but did not notice where it was leading them.

These fantasies are now a matter of RW doctrine and they have to treat them as such.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:03:38am

Castor:
“Oligarchs are a problem.
Social media rudeness is bad.”
Isn’t he supposed to be on Trump’s side?

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mmmirele  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:03:47am

Update on my knee/back:

I’m working today. I’ve got an ice pack strapped to my knee, it does seem to reduce the pain quite a bit. I am supposed to do some light walking. I had to go back to work but thankfully, I can work at home. THANKFULLY. Driving is still a PITA, for some reason my right leg just wants to lock up when I get behind the wheel.

Anyway, so I’m working today, and I was busy from the moment I logged in until now and just missed that the jury found Roger Stone GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY as the short-fingered vulgarian was engaging in witness intimidation. What a cluster.

And now I’m busy again…momentous things may be happening but tech stuff still breaks.

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:03:54am

re: #59 Charles Johnson

Bulkshit is my preferred term. Because they’re operating with warehouse sized portions.

They don’t care how it plays, because they think their base will buy it no matter what, and Fox/right wing echo chamber will amplify and reinforce with still more lies and smears.

It’s worked out that way for the GOP so far, but with Trumpworld, even that is now in question as the crimes pile up all around Trump.

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gocart mozart  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:04:08am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:04:28am

re: #59 Charles Johnson

They’re playing to an audience of one, by and large. They know full well that Trump believes in those conspiracy theories with every fiber of his being, and he’ll continue believing in them until he draws his last breath.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:04:51am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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That Nixon Tramp Stamp ain’t gonna help him!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:05:59am

re: #62 Mike Lamb

Outside of insinuating that Manafort was set up, I have no idea what Castor is doing. His body language and presence is awful. His questions are meandering. There is no unified thread to his questioning. Bad bad bad.

Good good good. 😂

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:06:31am
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:06:35am

he stepped in it again

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Interesting Times  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:07:51am

Needs moar “all of the above”:

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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:08:12am

re: #71 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Good good good. 😂

It’s offensive to me as an attorney. This is basic trial ad.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:09:02am

re: #51 jaunte

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And the javlins.

As mentioned in the perfect call.

I’m like wha???

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:09:37am

re: #75 Mike Lamb

It’s offensive to me as an attorney. This is basic trial ad.

I get it and I’m sorry.

But I’m seriously happy that they’re continuously stepping on their own dicks.

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:09:52am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:12:02am

re: #78 lawhawk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:12:08am

re: #70 Joe Bacon 🌹

That Nixon Tramp Stamp ain’t gonna help him!

Yeah, I think all the Watergate conspirators have long since been released…

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:12:26am

schiff cleaning up the mess nicely

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:12:28am

This is not exactly a persuasive argument for Trump.

Process crimes are crimes. Period. This relates back to the whole boring/unsexy nonsense spewed after hearings earlier this week. They think this isn’t sufficient to prosecute/impeach?

That’s more bulkshit right there. Process crimes are how the GOP sought to remove Bill Clinton, and they don’t care about how it looks when it comes to going after Democrats, but Trump has done more than just process crimes. He engages in witness tampering in real time during the actual impeachment hearings.

He adds more crimes and counts to his impeachment with each passing day. He’s a one man crime spree.

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Jay C  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:12:43am

re: #39 BeachDem

Briefly, from Wiki:

Bruce Ohr is a United States Department of Justice official. A former associate deputy attorney general and former director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF)…In 2018, Ohr became the subject of right-wing conspiracy theories which alleged that he played an important role in starting the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election.[5][6] The conspiracy theories allege that the origins of the Russia probe were biased and were intended to undermine then-candidate Trump.[6] President Trump and many Republicans have falsely claimed the Steele dossier was used to start the investigation…According to a Republican-led investigation, during the 2016 election, Fusion GPS hired Bruce’s wife, Nellie Ohr, an independent contractor and Russia specialist, to conduct “research and analysis” of Donald Trump.[11][13][14] A comprehensive report done by ABC News disputes that Ohr’s wife worked on the dossier, instead stating that she “was not directly involved in the ‘dossier’ while she worked for Fusion GPS.”[3]

So IOW, the usual Trumpian borderline-slanderous groundless conspiracy-theory bullshit deflection?
Just as I thought, thanks…..

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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:13:12am

Schiff got a bit meander-y himself, but nicely got the timeline re: the release of aid on the record.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:13:13am

MOAR SANITY BREAK

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:14:08am

re: #82 lawhawk

This is not exactly a persuasive argument for Trump.

Process crimes are crimes. Period. This relates back to the whole boring/unsexy nonsense spewed after hearings earlier this week. They think this isn’t sufficient to prosecute/impeach?

That’s more bulkshit right there. Process crimes are how the GOP sought to remove Bill Clinton, and they don’t care about how it looks when it comes to going after Democrats, but Trump has done more than just process crimes. He engages in witness tampering in real time during the actual impeachment hearings.

He adds more crimes and counts to his impeachment with each passing day. He’s a one man crime spree.

Crimes are crimes. I wish the media would stop treating this goddamn thing like a fucking reality show.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:14:19am

re: #77 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I get it and I’m sorry.

But I’m seriously happy that they’re continuously stepping on their own dicks.

Throws bottle and flies back at him

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:15:23am

“Won’t you agree that the Godfather has the right to knock off his soldiers?”

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:16:10am

Elise is almost as annoying as cow boy, in a different way.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:18:01am

re: #89 BeachDem

Elise is almost as annoying as cow boy, in a different way.

I’ve been to her district. It’s Republican but not in the way the Freedumb Caucus members’ districts are. It’s actually Kirsten Gillirband’s old one.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:18:30am

Welp, back to impeaching Obama and Biden.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:19:24am

re: #57 Dave In Austin

Is there a tactic called “Droning” where you bore the witness into stumbling?

Yes, I believe that’s known as the Ben Stein Maneuver.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:20:24am

Stefanik understands why they do the practice Q&A, right? She understands that they had the practice Q&A based on what they anticipated the GOP to ask, yes?

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plansbandc  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:22:56am

re: #72 The Pie Overlord!

GIMMEE

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:22:58am

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lizardofid  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:23:24am

re: #89 BeachDem

Elise is almost as annoying as cow boy, in a different way.

Yep, but I see why Nunes wanted to yield all his time to her, and, why Schiff denied it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:24:06am
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plansbandc  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:24:15am

re: #78 lawhawk

It’s funny when ugly bitches call other people ugly bitches.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:25:22am

Yokeling.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:26:17am

JFC
LOLOLOL!

This is ridiculous!

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steve_davis  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:26:23am

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

CL’d on last thread:

I don’t know, this last one has been kind of fun: Bevin goes up in smoke, Trump admin ground into dust at the Impeachment hearings, Stone guilty on all counts.re: #65 jaunte

Castor:
“Oligarchs are a problem.
Social media rudeness is bad.”
Isn’t he supposed to be on Trump’s side?

yeah, he did not notice that Yanakovich just deballed Trump with her answer. Then tried to joke about it himself, but no one laughed, because the laughter was not about social media, but about Trump.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:27:51am

Conaway’s turn for a “What are we even doing here?” set of questions.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:29:07am

re: #72 The Pie Overlord!

Apple Dumplings

Wow!

Would you please publish the recipe on your website.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:29:50am

Ah. Twitter. 😂

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lizardofid  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:30:47am

Turner strategy: Put em all to sleep.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:32:16am

re: #93 Mike Lamb

Stefanik understands why they do the practice Q&A, right? She understands that they had the practice Q&A based on what they anticipated the GOP to ask, yes?

they asked in the practice q&a becaue they figure the r’s would bring it up at the confirmation hearing

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:33:48am

OT:
NY AG goes after B&H for failing to remit proper sales tax - namely on treating how rebates are computed and the taxable value of the gear they sell.

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Interesting Times  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:37:04am
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Stanley Sea  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:38:06am

JOHN KERRY

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:39:58am

when the R’s fast fire questions, she should slow down

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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:42:58am

re: #90 HappyWarrior

I’ve been to her district. It’s Republican but not in the way the Freedumb Caucus members’ districts are. It’s actually Kirsten Gillirband’s old one.

Er, no. Gillibrand’s district was the southern Adirondacks down into the Mohawk Valley and Albany exurbs. Stefanik is the North Country, hard up by Canada.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:43:25am
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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:44:07am

ROGER STONE DID NOT KILL HIMSELF

(sorry… just getting out there a month ahead of what I imagine social media will be like)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:44:16am

re: #111 i(m)p(each)sos

Er, no. Gillibrand’s district was the southern Adirondacks down into the Mohawk Valley and Albany exurbs. Stefanik is the North Country, hard up by Canada.

My bad. I thought they were the same.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:44:58am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:45:17am

re: #113 i(m)p(each)sos

ROGER STONE DID NOT KILL HIMSELF

(sorry… just getting out there a month ahead of what I imagine social media will be like)

You know as disturbed as I am about what happened with Epstein in federal custody, I’m frustrated as hell seeing it reduced to a stupid meme. Not meant at you but all the dummies who think the Epstein didn’t kill himself memes are the funneist thing ever.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:45:43am

re: #112 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

Yes but where’s the pizzazz? //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:46:15am

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Yes but where’s the pizzazz? //

where are the pizzas?

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:46:18am

So…NY news radio’s take was surprisingly straight up the middle. They reported about Trump’s tweet and mentioned intimidation, and played the sound bite of Schiff shutting down Stefanik. That was as satisfying on the radio as it was on TV.

In the 45 minutes or so that I was out driving around, these hearings ate up the lion’s share of air time. This is getting out there, for sure.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:47:17am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

where are the pizzas?

In the Comet Pizza basement.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:50:52am

Slipped the knife in from the side. That hurt and they never saw it coming.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:51:05am

What the hell….

washingtonpost.com

The shirtless 15-year-old screams as he lies facedown on the kitchen floor of his Tucson group home. He has no arms or legs, so he can’t flee or fight back. But a sheriff’s deputy at least twice his size is crouching over him and pinning him to the ground, using his body weight to restrain the quadruple amputee.
The eight-minute cellphone video has now prompted an internal affairs investigation at the Pima County Sheriff’s Department, according to KOLD, which first published the footage on Thursday.
But Pima County Public Defender Joel Feinman told The Washington Post that the disturbing incident likely wouldn’t have come to light if it weren’t for another teenager at the group home, who recorded the confrontation and then had his head pushed into the wall by deputies.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:51:58am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:52:15am

re: #122 Scottish Dragon

What the hell….

washingtonpost.com

The shirtless 15-year-old screams as he lies facedown on the kitchen floor of his Tucson group home. He has no arms or legs, so he can’t flee or fight back. But a sheriff’s deputy at least twice his size is crouching over him and pinning him to the ground, using his body weight to restrain the quadruple amputee.
The eight-minute cellphone video has now prompted an internal affairs investigation at the Pima County Sheriff’s Department, according to KOLD, which first published the footage on Thursday.
But Pima County Public Defender Joel Feinman told The Washington Post that the disturbing incident likely wouldn’t have come to light if it weren’t for another teenager at the group home, who recorded the confrontation and then had his head pushed into the wall by deputies.

Blue lives matter.//

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:52:57am

re: #122 Scottish Dragon

What the hell….

washingtonpost.com

The shirtless 15-year-old screams as he lies facedown on the kitchen floor of his Tucson group home. He has no arms or legs, so he can’t flee or fight back. But a sheriff’s deputy at least twice his size is crouching over him and pinning him to the ground, using his body weight to restrain the quadruple amputee.
The eight-minute cellphone video has now prompted an internal affairs investigation at the Pima County Sheriff’s Department, according to KOLD, which first published the footage on Thursday.
But Pima County Public Defender Joel Feinman told The Washington Post that the disturbing incident likely wouldn’t have come to light if it weren’t for another teenager at the group home, who recorded the confrontation and then had his head pushed into the wall by deputies.

clearly ‘in fear for their lives’

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:54:02am

Pretty much.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:54:14am

while Rep Speier is 100% right that the rest of the foreign service now has to double think eveything, trump only focuses on 5-6 countries and doesnt know the rest exist

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:54:14am

So, returning to Eli Lake’s tweet about claiming that Trump’s statement didn’t compromise witness tampering, it now appears that the likes have more than caught up to the replies - he’s no longer being ratioed. Guess the howler monkeys got their marching orders?

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:55:33am

she should also stop calling him ‘the mayor’
though it is done a bit derogatorily

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:56:36am

Chris Stewart repeating all the magic words.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:56:38am

gah—can’t stand this Stewart asshole. What a smarmy little dick. (And Gym is yet to come)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:56:51am
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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:57:19am
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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:57:56am

Man, the R side of this committee sure are a bunch of whiny bitches.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:58:03am

re: #133 jaunte

Then you have no right to complain about the Steele dossier, Stewart.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:58:34am

re: #134 makeitstop

Man, the R side of this committee sure are a bunch of whiny bitches.

Because that’s what they are. They’ve convinced themselves they’re a bunch of tough guys because they pose with their guns but they’re really a bunch of cowards who carry water for an even bigger coward.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 10:59:29am

Grrrrrr.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:00:03am

re: #137 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Grrrrrr.

So we’re winning again I hear.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:00:23am

Stewart, a supporter of off-the-books diplomacy, doesn’t want to hear about the official process.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:00:26am

The look on her face while Stewart pontificates says, “Man, I thought the crap Trump tweeted was annoying, but this little asshole is truly getting on my last nerve.”

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:01:13am

re: #119 makeitstop

So…NY news radio’s take was surprisingly straight up the middle. They reported about Trump’s tweet and mentioned intimidation, and played the sound bite of Schiff shutting down Stefanik. That was as satisfying on the radio as it was on TV.

In the 45 minutes or so that I was out driving around, these hearings ate up the lion’s share of air time. This is getting out there, for sure.

I mentioned my CERT group in the last thread. The other thing they all agreed upon (not me) is who’s going to watch it anyway other than the beltway types.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:02:03am
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:03:12am

each questioner i am yelling at the screen — ask this, ask that

then the next dem comes up and they handle it

they are smartly spreading it out and not missing anything (imo)

guigley pointing out winding up at georgetown is not what she wanted, is a big step down and this aint a hallmark movie

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:03:24am

I hope someone sends this woman flowers and good bourbon tonite.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:03:42am

re: #142 jaunte

But also “HRC, Obama, and all them belong in jail because our base are a bunch of ignorant morons who are cosplay fascists.”

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:04:15am

Heh

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:04:31am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

Because that’s what they are. They’ve convinced themselves they’re a bunch of tough guys because they pose with their guns but they’re really a bunch of cowards who carry water for an even bigger coward.

I still can’t wrap my head around their doing this for trump. It’s mind boggling.

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:06:06am

Heh…. it’s funny because it’s true. Jordan is Boomhauer.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:06:09am

re: #147 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I still can’t wrap my head around their doing this for trump. It’s mind boggling.

It must be Kompromat!

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:06:46am

Fuck you, Elise.

That is all.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:06:55am

re: #147 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I still can’t wrap my head around their doing this for trump. It’s mind boggling.

They’re desperately afraid of Trump tweeting mean things about them. They’d rather enable him than stand up.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:07:36am

while stefanik is doing this nonsense, yovanovitch should ask “do i gotta sit here or can i come back in 4 minutes”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:07:37am

re: #149 Joe Bacon 🌹

It must be Kompromat!

Some of them I’m sure. But Jordan? This guy was looking the other way on shit long before Trump.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:07:53am

So, Elise has absolutely nothing to contribute to the testimony, just wants to drone on about outing the whistleblower?

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:07:59am

Stefanik is really making herself look small and petty here.

Her sarcasm is really off-putting. What makes a person debase herself like that?

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:08:03am

What does any of this bullshit Elise is reading into the record have to do with the current witness? What an asshole.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:08:12am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:09:10am
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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:09:15am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:09:26am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:09:50am

Rod Dreher thought it would be hilarious to dress his mom in a silly Russian fur hat and deck her out with a mini14 assault rifle to make this anti-Antifa meme the same day more kids got shot at a California high school.

You could just die laughing.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:10:56am

Bad to worst—Elise to Gym. Ugh.

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lizardofid  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:10:58am

re: #160 Charles Johnson

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Well, to be fair, Green Eggs and Ham has been done.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:11:14am

Whenever Gym starts talking it turns into an unintelligible buzz in about 20 seconds.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:11:41am

Jordan shouldn’t be complaining about unavailable witness testimony, Subpoena-Ignoring Party.

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:12:31am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:13:27am

re: #149 Joe Bacon 🌹

It must be Kompromat!

I think it’s also political desperation. They HAVE to do this or else their base will turn on them like rabid dogs.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:15:52am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:17:45am

Good one.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:18:12am
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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:18:31am

re: #164 makeitstop

Whenever Gym starts talking it turns into an unintelligible buzz in about 20 seconds.

It’s working well for me—when the Repugs start talking, I get some work done because they’re great background noise—like the parents in Peanuts’ cartoons.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:18:40am

Fuck you CBS.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:20:13am
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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:21:06am

Will Hurd make a point?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:22:48am
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Ming5000  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:23:08am

re: #173 Charles Johnson

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:23:42am

re: #172 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Fuck you CBS.

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Arrgh. Just because SHE DOESN’T HAVE EVIDENCE doesn’t mean NO ONE ELSE DOES.

Christ.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:24:16am

joaquin castro “trump up charges”…. ;-)

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lizardofid  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:24:31am

re: #174 jaunte

Will Hurd make a point?

Magic 8-Ball says……..”unlikely”

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:28:18am

re: #177 Eclectic Cyborg

Arrgh. Just because SHE DOESN’T HAVE EVIDENCE doesn’t mean NO ONE ELSE DOES.

Christ.

She was gotten rid of to make sure she didn’t have the evidence.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:28:28am

And we’re back to impeaching Obama again. Ratcliff is another smarmy, annoying asshole.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:28:58am

re: #181 BeachDem

And we’re back to impeaching Obama again. Ratcliff is another smarmy, annoying asshole.

Aren’t they all?

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:29:07am

The whole nepotism angle is another window into the incapacity of Republicans to look in a mirror.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:30:04am

NEPOTISM IS BAD
(Not our nepotism.)

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:30:12am

re: #182 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Aren’t they all?

Well yes, but there’s a sliding scale from annoying and smarmy to SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU TOTAL ASSHOLE.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:30:16am

re: #183 jaunte

The whole nepotism angle is another window into the incapacity of Republicans to look in a mirror.

given all the jared and ivanka and don jr stories, why did they have to fixate on biden’s son?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:31:05am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:31:18am

re: #176 Ming5000

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And we are supposed to take tweets from that account as policy? Policy from someone we don’t even know. Who’s running this shitshow?

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:31:34am

re: #186 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They’re grasping at “everybody’s corrupt” straws.
Curiously enough, an FSB tactic.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:33:43am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

At least he’s doing something right.

Now do downstream tickets.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:33:46am

Ring that bell of shame!! Shame!! Shame!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:39:32am

A shame this couldn’t have been set up to where the GOP goes first and the Dems go last.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:41:59am
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lizardofid  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:42:28am

re: #192 Eclectic Cyborg

A shame this couldn’t have been set up to where the GOP goes first and the Dems go last.

Yeah, home team gets last at bat, right? wth?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:42:36am

GOP the party of soundbites.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:44:02am

re: #195 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

GOP the party of soundbites.

That is going to become a major talking point

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:44:54am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is going to become a major talking point

Because one person = every person.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:46:37am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:48:43am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:48:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:50:33am

re: #197 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Because one person = every person.

It looks good as a headline or bullet point “Key witness admits knowing no wrongdoing on part of President!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:50:37am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:51:09am

Ugh—Gym again. STFU (and take a shower and put on a jacket)

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:52:04am
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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:52:21am
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:54:01am

jordan “secretary of state Perry”??

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:54:41am

“Was there a question in there?”. Hahahahaha

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:55:16am
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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:55:17am
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:55:22am

“criticizing” is not ‘meddling’ or ‘influencing’

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:56:32am

re: #208 Charles Johnson

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Shorter Trump. I pooped my diaper.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:56:51am

Speaking of corruption.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:56:52am

re: #195 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

GOP the party of soundbites.

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Was there an allegation that Trump was accepting bribes with respect to Ukraine?

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:56:54am

re: #210 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

“criticizing” is not ‘meddling’ or ‘influencing’

and then she says is

i feel better

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:58:04am

re: #213 Mike Lamb

Was there an allegation that Trump was accepting bribes with respect to Ukraine?

constitution is clear: ‘bribery’. full stop

accepting OR soliciting

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:58:07am

re: #213 Mike Lamb

Was there an allegation that Trump was accepting bribes with respect to Ukraine?

Oh so Mr. Dahmer didn’t kill JFK, I move for an acquittal your honor.//

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plansbandc  Nov 15, 2019 • 11:58:46am

re: #210 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

It is to a malignant narcissist.

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sagehen  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:01:27pm

re: #213 Mike Lamb

Was there an allegation that Trump was accepting bribes with respect to Ukraine?

pretty sure the allegations are that Trump was accepting bribes from/regarding Turkey, both Koreas, maybe China. In re Ukraine, he was the one proferring the bribes.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:02:44pm
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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:03:27pm

Schiff could troll Trump by offering up a seat with his nameplate at the table facing the dais… he could even gold plate it just to make Trump feel at home.

Trump is more than capable of testifying under oath. He probably wants to because his fragile ego hates the fact he can’t control the narrative here. His lawyers, such as they are, are probably doing everything imaginable to keep Trump from agreeing to testify.

Because that would absolutely end Trump. He’d fall apart under direct by Goldman, let alone anything offered by Schiff or the rest of the Democrats. The GOP would be powerless at that point, because Trump is irredeemable, but a few would still try.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:05:34pm

re: #34 Amory Blaine

Hope Stone doesn’t get Epsteined.

This is a legitimate concern of Mr. Stone himself I’m sure. He is a crank, but not suicidal.

He is a rat and everyone knows it. He will talk unless someone shuts him up.

His big hope right now is a Trump pardon. If he feels that is not coming or if Trump is removed and tendered powerless Stone is going to sing like a canary in any criminal proceedings against the Trump Crime Family.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:06:05pm

GOP: Schiff won’t allow us to call the whistleblower as a witness.

Also GOP: It’s totally cool that Trump is blocking Bolton, Mulvaney, etc. etc. from testifying.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:07:56pm

Hope Val brings the power like she did Wednesday.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:12:04pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:13:01pm

re: #222 Mike Lamb

GOP: Schiff won’t allow us to call the whistleblower as a witness.

Also GOP: It’s totally cool that Trump is blocking Bolton, Mulvaney, etc. etc. from testifying.

Has Nunes acknowledged yet that the Dems say the WB is willing to answer in writing any questions they may have under oath?

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:13:15pm

Feels like we’ve had a month’s worth of Friday night news dumps just today, and it’s not even 5pm (but it’s 5pm somewhere).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:13:18pm

What does that sign behind them say?

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:19:38pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:19:56pm

Schiff is a rock star. I’m very proud of how the Democrats have conducted themselves so far.

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Jay C  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:20:28pm

re: #199 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Even discounting the source*, it’s curious that a “pump-priming” question re impeachment would make much of a difference in a Louisiana gubernatorial race. AFAICT, the Governor of Louisiana has no more influence on the impeachment process than you or I. Maybe it’s a sign of desperation that the GOP is trying to drum up reflexive Trump-loyalty to get the vote out?

*McLaughlin usually goes out of his way to merit the “crank” part of his nym.

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danarchy  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:21:09pm

re: #227 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What does that sign behind them say?

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It is a quote from Rep. Al Green
realclearpolitics.com

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:21:25pm

re: #229 Patricia Kayden

Schiff is a rock star. I’m very proud of how the Democrats have conducted themselves so far.

Schiff I think could well replace Pelosi as Speaker. He’s smart as hell and is now tested in the spotlight. He would be our first ever Jewish Speaker too IIRC.

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ericblair  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:21:34pm

re: #226 lawhawk

Feels like we’ve had a month’s worth of Friday night news dumps just today, and it’s not even 5pm (but it’s 5pm somewhere).

It’s well past five o’clock and well into wine o’clock here in Yurp.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:22:21pm

re: #227 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What does that sign behind them say?

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An Al Green quote (out of context)

I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach this president, he will get reelected.

In context:

“I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach this president, he will get reelected. If we don’t impeach him, he will say he has been vindicated. He will say the Democrats had an overwhelming majority in the House and they didn’t take up impeachment. He will say that we have a constitutional duty to do it if it was there and we didn’t. He will say that he has been vindicated.

“But here’s what I say. We are confronting a constitutional crisis as I speak to you. As I look the people of America in the eye, I’m telling you we have a constitutional crisis. When the chief executive officer, the president of the United States, refuses to comply with subpoenas and says he will order others to do so, this creates a constitutional crisis…(and much more)

politifact.com

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sagehen  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:22:43pm

re: #232 HappyWarrior

Schiff I think could well replace Pelosi as Speaker. He’s smart as hell and is now tested in the spotlight. He would be our first ever Jewish Speaker too IIRC.

California deserves two in a row.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:23:00pm

schiff gets an ovation

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:23:44pm

re: #235 sagehen

California deserves two in a row.

They’ve earned them. It sure as hell shouldn’t be Tim Ryan.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:23:51pm

re: #225 Barefoot Grin

Has Nunes acknowledged yet that the Dems say the WB is willing to answer in writing any questions they may have under oath?

‘it’s not the same’

‘well it was good enough for the president’

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Jay C  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:24:18pm

re: #231 danarchy

re: #227 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What does that sign behind them say?

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It is a quote from Rep. Al Green
realclearpolitics.com

I’m still surprised Schiff (and the Committee Dems) are allowing those idiotic signs in a formal hearing. Unless I’ve missed something, those bullshit-meme posters are only on the GOP side.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:25:00pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:32:34pm

re: #240 jaunte

More of this, please.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:33:26pm

Odds on Gov Asshole doing the right thing?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:34:11pm

re: #242 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Odds on Gov Asshole doing the right thing?

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somewhere between really fucking low and can’t even see them with a microscope.

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Jay C  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:35:22pm

re: #242 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Odds on Gov Asshole doing the right thing?

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The family should be ordering a coffin.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:35:23pm

re: #221 Florida Panhandler

This is a legitimate concern of Mr. Stone himself I’m sure. He is a crank, but not suicidal.

He is a rat and everyone knows it. He will talk unless someone shuts him up.

His big hope right now is a Trump pardon. If he feels that is not coming or if Trump is removed and tendered powerless Stone is going to sing like a canary in any criminal proceedings against the Trump Crime Family.

Accepting the pardon, though, opens him up to being forced to testify. A pardon isn’t a blank check.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:35:24pm

re: #242 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The right thing vs. a real demonstration he has the power of life and death?
He doesn’t have the character.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:38:49pm

re: #242 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Abbott is a blood-thirsty maniac. The fact that the inmate is black guarantees his fate.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:39:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:40:53pm
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:41:13pm

I think it’s time for Schiff to subpoena Trump for his testimony.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:45:25pm

re: #242 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Odds on Gov Asshole doing the right thing?

To paraphrase Futurama: Abbott doesn’t want to be seen as going soft on the wrongly accused.

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Teukka  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:47:03pm

re: #161 Scottish Dragon

Rod Dreher thought it would be hilarious to dress his mom in a silly Russian fur hat and deck her out with a mini14 assault rifle to make this anti-Antifa meme the same day more kids got shot at a California high school.

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You could just die laughing.

Yeah. Right wingers are that tone deaf. Had one post a meme in a chat which was even more tone deaf, about immigrants in Sweden and the rape stats.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:47:43pm
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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:49:35pm

re: #253 Belafon

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:50:26pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:51:41pm
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:51:54pm

re: #248 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

remember at this point they didnt want (or care about) an actual investigation

they only wanted the ‘announcement’ of one

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:52:59pm

re: #250 Ace Rothstein

I think it’s time for Schiff to subpoena Trump for his testimony.

Separation of powers would be an issue there.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:53:57pm

re: #254 lawhawk

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Oh shut up Ryan.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:55:01pm

re: #195 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

GOP the party of soundbites.

“Do you have any info that POTUS killed someone?”

“No”

“Checkmate, ballgame, hoax!”

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:57:10pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 12:59:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:00:00pm

re: #261 lawhawk

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Yovanovitch who was promoting democracy while Trump was banging prostitutes. Great hero that Jack, Cass, & catturd have.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:00:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:01:37pm

re: #262 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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You mean people who serve their country regardless of party, Mr. The RNC needed to buy my shitty book. Oh and btw Donnie, your dad appointed Kent and Taylor.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:03:06pm

re: #195 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

GOP the party of soundbites.

“Have you stopped beating your wife/husband?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:03:35pm

re: #152 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

while stefanik is doing this nonsense, yovanovitch should ask “do i gotta sit here or can i come back in 4 minutes”

she should pull out her phone and start playing Candy Crush

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:03:45pm

re: #262 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

stunning display of not understanding whats gonig on here

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:04:44pm

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

she should pull out her phone and start playing Candy Crush

yes better

with the sound not muted

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fern01  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:05:20pm

re: #155 makeitstop

Stefanik is really making herself look small and petty here.

Her sarcasm is really off-putting. What makes a person debase herself like that?

I’m stuck in the question

What makes any woman support Donald Trump

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:07:38pm

Trump Jr is a pathetic toady with no original thoughts. He’s too chickenshit to ever criticize his father.

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Interesting Times  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:07:48pm

re: #270 fern01

I’m stuck in the question What makes any woman support Donald Trump

Racism. Plus, internalized misogyny is a helluva drug.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:08:00pm

re: #261 lawhawk

Catturd2.

Lovely.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:08:20pm

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:09:22pm

re: #273 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Catturd2.

Lovely.

..apparently there was already a ‘1’

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:11:02pm

re: #271 HappyWarrior

Trump Jr is a pathetic toady with no original thoughts. He’s too chickenshit to ever criticize his father.

He’s dying to get something that resembles love from someone incapable of giving (or understanding) love.

I’d feel sorry for junior if he wasn’t such a giant bag of dicks.

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Dread Pirate  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:13:41pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:14:41pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:18:58pm

re: #257 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

remember at this point they didnt want (or care about) an actual investigation

they only wanted the ‘announcement’ of one

If nothing else, the impeachment hearings have raised alarm ahead of any other foreign policy shenanigans coming from the WH.

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:20:48pm

re: #276 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

He’s dying to get something that resembles love from someone incapable of giving (or understanding) love.

I’d feel sorry for junior if he wasn’t such a giant bag of dicks.

Love hell. He doesn’t want to be cut out of the will. Eric either

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Interesting Times  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:21:08pm

And as if you needed it, here’s yet another justification for GOP delenda est:

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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:21:35pm

re: #262 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Trump was hired to appoint Taylor so he could fire him?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:21:43pm
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:24:19pm

re: #277 Dread Pirate
like i said upthread, he only knows about 8 countries total
(not including greenland - and yes, i know)

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:26:16pm

re: #282 Mike Lamb

Trump was hired to appoint Taylor so he could fire him?

dont look for logic in any of this
it just makes your head hurt

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sagehen  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:27:31pm

re: #278 Patricia Kayden

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There was also the judicial nominee last week, when the ABA report of interviews of his co-workers said he couldn’t be fair to LGBTQ litigants. He cried.

Hillary Clinton testified for 11 hours. She did not cry.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:27:51pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:29:56pm

I’m tired. Listening to today’s hearing let me in utter disgust of repubs questioning; gym j.’s tact in questioning was particularly egregious.

My feeling of doom increases; I keep hearing g the dodos theme song from Iceage. Maria Y.s circumstance is magnified by a billion after hearing hear opening statement and then her answers..

Doom Doom Doom.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:30:40pm

Maher closing out his season with at least one show not featuring total right wing assholes. (And he has Jaime Harrison AND Sherrod Brown)

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio); Democratic Senate candidate Jaime Harrison; former Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Donna Brazile; president of Eurasia Group and GZERO Media Ian Bremmer; New York Times columnist Frank Bruni.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:31:19pm

re: #283 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Yet another in a long line of court cases that wingnuts assured us would go their way.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:31:37pm

Cow Boy is reading the “Perfect Transcript” of a completely different phone call.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:33:20pm

Well shoot.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:33:58pm

Adam Schiff is BRINGING IT.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:34:43pm

Am I watching a replay?

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Dread Pirate  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:35:11pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:36:36pm

re: #295 Dread Pirate

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I think I said it earlier today, but I expect if he does show up (there was murmuring he might be a no-show), he’ll be treated by the Repubs on the committee like Cohen was before the Judiciary Committee: a lying liar who does nothing but lies.

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KGxvi  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:38:17pm

I’m reading the second call memo, the April call… Trump really said Ukraine was always well represented in the Miss Universe contests when he used to own it? Really? That’s his point of reference for talking to a foreign leader?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:39:10pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:39:30pm

re: #297 KGxvi

I’m reading the second call memo, the April call… Trump really said Ukraine was always well represented in the Miss Universe contests when he used to own it? Really? That’s his point of reference for talking to a foreign leader?

Do they golf in Kiev?

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stpaulbear  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:40:35pm

re: #295 Dread Pirate

You sure got a lot of bang for that million bucks, Gordo.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:41:52pm

re: #300 stpaulbear

You sure got a lot of bang for that million bucks, Gordo.

Bought himself a footnote in a 2036 PoliSci text.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:43:02pm

Gah. This reality is something.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:43:40pm

re: #301 Decatur Deb

Bought himself a footnote in a 2036 PoliSci text.

Let’s hope a few years in the pokey goes along with that.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:43:42pm

re: #298 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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tell me ‘hogan’ - did vindman put it out all by himself or did anyone else read it?
anyone?
beuller?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:45:06pm

re: #303 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Let’s hope a few years in the pokey goes along with that.

None of these clowns will be in prison long enough to earn a job in the laundry.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:47:05pm

re: #298 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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So again, they just keep digging the hole deeper, coming up with new lies to cover their old ones.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:47:29pm

Uhm.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:48:24pm

re: #302 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Gah. This reality is something.

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See how easy it is to get things FUBARed when you’re just whinging it and making everything up as you go?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:49:11pm

re: #302 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Gah. This reality is something.

Yeah they lie a lot, Maggie. About everything, all the time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:49:45pm

re: #307 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Uhm.

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Did the Secret Service take a late lunch break or something?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:50:02pm

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

See how easy it is to get things FUBARed when you’re just whinging it and making everything up as you go?

Just watch Faux and you won’t notice, OK?

/

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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:50:43pm

Says the totally dependent son who left his wife and five children to be with a Melon wanna be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:50:45pm

re: #245 Belafon

Accepting the pardon, though, opens him up to being forced to testify. A pardon isn’t a blank check.

and don’t think for one New York minute that the Orange Moron’s handlers don’t know that and will prevent any pardon

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:52:07pm

re: #310 Eclectic Cyborg

Did the Secret Service take a late lunch break or something?

I think it’s a safe bet that he’s there with trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:52:22pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

and don’t think for one New York minute that the Orange Moron’s handlers don’t know that and will prevent any pardon

If Trump were to do it anyway with a tweet, would that count?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:53:10pm

re: #310 Eclectic Cyborg

Did the Secret Service take a late lunch break or something?

The place is overrun by exorcists and haruspices, by invitation.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:53:31pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:54:22pm

re: #317 jaunte

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I knew when I heard their names mentioned that the wingnuts were gonna flip out.

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sagehen  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:55:48pm

re: #289 BeachDem

Maher closing out his season with at least one show not featuring total right wing assholes. (And he has Jaime Harrison AND Sherrod Brown)

because Republicans aren’t feeling particularly talkative at the moment.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 1:59:48pm

re: #312 Skip Intro

Says the totally dependent son who left his wife and five children to be with a Melon wanna be.

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I like this response better.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:09:18pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:10:38pm

re: #307 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Uhm.

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Oh no! Taliban infiltrators have occupied the White House! Call out the 3rd Infantry to take it back! We need tanks, A-10s, Apache gunships!
Oh. Wait. The shaman mentioned Jesus. Must be a different gang of anti-American desperadoes. Bomb them anyway.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:12:24pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:12:27pm

re: #321 jaunte

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Great idea: Throw even more doubt on the “totally authentic transcript” that is the entire defense strategy. Absolute (stable) genius!

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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:15:18pm

re: #317 jaunte

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What the fuck is that nonsense?

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Teukka  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:16:08pm

re: #325 Mike Lamb

What the fuck is that nonsense?

:sniff: :sniff:
Desperation?

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:16:21pm

I didn’t get to watch Schiff adjourn earlier. This is beautiful, especially his not even acknowledging the bleating of whoever was whining at the end. Like a damn boss.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:18:18pm

I think the Republicans really are starting to learn that the Trumps truly don’t care about anyone not named Trump.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:18:40pm

WH: “So here’s the perfectly innocent first call to Zelensky that shows that Trump never intended to extort him! CASE CLOSED!”

Reporters: “Uh, this transcript bears no resemblance to the read-out that was released back in April.”

WH: “IT’S ALL THAT LYING BASTARD VINDMAN’S FAULT! WE STAND BY OUR TRANSCRIPTS!”

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:20:17pm

re: #321 jaunte

How much of what we know about Trump is a giant con job??

by now i think we can safely say “all of it”

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:21:01pm

ROFL

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:21:35pm

Today is an unofficial holiday in Michigan-the start of firearm deer hunting season. In honor of the holiday….

Tom Lehrer - The Hunting Song - LIVE FILM From Copenhagen in 1967

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:22:28pm

re: #330 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

I’m telling you. Wait until you see what crazy shit comes out about Trumpland when a Dem administration takes over and can really dig in behind the scenes.

Gonna be insane, y’all.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:23:01pm

re: #324 Targetpractice

Great idea: Throw even more doubt on the “totally authentic transcript” that is the entire defense strategy. Absolute (stable) genius!

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as i said…somewhere, every time a dem reads the ‘transcript’ with the ellipses, they shouldnt just skip over them. they should say out loud “we know this is incomplete and something is missing here”

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:24:02pm

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

I think the Republicans really are starting to learn that the Trumps truly don’t care about anyone not named Trump.

and maybe they’re seeing they’re bailing a leaky boat that’s sinking faster and faster

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:24:30pm

re: #329 Targetpractice

WH: “So here’s the perfectly innocent first call to Zelensky that shows that Trump never intended to extort him! CASE CLOSED!”

Reporters: “Uh, this transcript bears no resemblance to the read-out that was released back in April.”

WH: “IT’S ALL THAT LYING BASTARD VINDMAN’S FAULT! WE STAND BY OUR TRANSCRIPTS!”

it still doesnt mean what you think it means…

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:24:52pm

Oh, this is delightful:

Even Republicans admitted it was problematic for the president to be criticizing the witness, a respected career diplomat, at the same time she was testifying against him. Still, none would directly criticize the president, and many avoided questions about the tweet altogether.

“It’s not something I would do,” Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Texas), who sits on the House Intelligence Committee, told reporters during a break from the hearing.

Asked if it amounted to witness intimidation, Conaway did not offer a direct answer: “I’m not a lawyer, I’m not familiar with it, but it’s just not something I would do. It’s just not my style.”

Several Republicans on the Intelligence Committee dodged the topic entirely. Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio) refused to answer questions about the tweets as he ducked on to the House floor, while Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-Texas) quickly whipped out his cell phone and began talking into it, even though his home screen was visible and there was no call in progress.”

Oh please, oh please, let there be video of this that can be spread across the evening news and the internets.

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KGxvi  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:25:32pm

The California Secretary of State has to publish reports prior to elections. It’s mostly about voter registration numbers and qualified parties and what not. The most recent one was published October 1, found it when I saw a headline saying the special election to replace Katie Hill will take place on primary day. Found these numbers interesting:

Democrats 44.1%
Republicans 23.6%
Independents 26.7%
Third Parties 5.6%

There are now 1.78m more independents and third party voters in the state than there are registered Republicans.

In Orange County, Democrats now outnumber Republicans 34.39-33.9% (that’s about 8,000 voters). Independents in Orange County account for 26.97%. Orange County gained 193k voters since January 2016 which is 5th highest in real numbers of growth (all of the top five counties are LA, San Bernardino, San Diego, Riverside, and Orange County) - and every one of those counties has a Democratic advantage now.

It used to be that to win statewide, a Republican had to win big in those LA suburban/exurban counties. Now it doesn’t look like they could even win them close.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:25:58pm

re: #334 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

as i said…somewhere, every time a dem reads the ‘transcript’ with the ellipses, they shouldnt just skip over them. they should say out loud “we know this is incomplete and something is missing here”

Vindman’s testimony is gonna be lit, considering he stated during his deposition that the July 25th “transcript” leaves out words and even whole portions of the conversation. The WH declaring right now that he’s responsible for the readouts and so any “inaccuracies” in them is only going to further fuel that fire.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:26:48pm

re: #327 makeitstop

I didn’t get to watch Schiff adjourn earlier. This is beautiful, especially his not even acknowledging the bleating of whoever was whining at the end. Like a damn boss.

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Watching it again, I get more than a little Jack McCoy vibe from Schiff.

Law & Order, indeed.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:26:56pm

re: #335 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

and maybe they’re seeing they’re bailing a leaky boat that’s sinking faster and faster

NEVER GET OUT OF THE BOAT!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:27:03pm

re: #337 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Oh, this is delightful:

[Embedded content]

Even Republicans admitted it was problematic for the president to be criticizing the witness, a respected career diplomat, at the same time she was testifying against him. Still, none would directly criticize the president, and many avoided questions about the tweet altogether.

“It’s not something I would do,” Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Texas), who sits on the House Intelligence Committee, told reporters during a break from the hearing.

Asked if it amounted to witness intimidation, Conaway did not offer a direct answer: “I’m not a lawyer, I’m not familiar with it, but it’s just not something I would do. It’s just not my style.”

Several Republicans on the Intelligence Committee dodged the topic entirely. Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio) refused to answer questions about the tweets as he ducked on to the House floor, while Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-Texas) quickly whipped out his cell phone and began talking into it, even though his home screen was visible and there was no call in progress.”

Oh please, oh please, let there be video of this that can be spread across the evening news and the internets.

Not something I would do but something I will tacitly endorse because I know if I outright condemn the orange shitgibbon I’ll get a mean tweet.

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fern01  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:29:02pm

How does Chuck Todd keep his job - so sounds like he is on the trump payroll.

Guess I answered my own question.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:32:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:33:00pm

re: #307 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Uhm.

[Embedded content]

Michael Stone?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:34:36pm
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:35:45pm

once again (i just like hearing it followed by the applause)

and look at the end, front and center, who’s not all that happy ;-)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:37:49pm

re: #333 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m telling you. Wait until you see what crazy shit comes out about Trumpland when a Dem administration takes over and can really dig in behind the scenes.

Gonna be insane, y’all.

QFT. I suspect that some of the weirdest revelations will have to do with the fundy witch-doctors who have been hanging around the place.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:37:54pm

re: #346 goddamnedfrank

Oh fuck you, Greg.

You CAN get through life without bribing people. You should try it sometime.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:38:36pm
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:41:17pm

re: #349 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh fuck you, Greg.

You CAN get through life without bribing people. You should try it sometime.

even if this idiocy was true, art 2, sec 4 makes it impeachable if the president does it

things that some people are allowed to do, others are not
- ie police open carrying a firearm vs a civilian bozo (yes state dependent)

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Mike Lamb  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:43:37pm

re: #333 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m telling you. Wait until you see what crazy shit comes out about Trumpland when a Dem administration takes over and can really dig in behind the scenes.

Gonna be insane, y’all.

You presume that there won’t be a deafening “Tut-tutting” from the media establishment, GOP, etc., saying we just need to move on; the past is in the past; etc.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:45:30pm

when confronted directly, they got nothing (including a spine)
they cant even stand up for their ‘beliefs’
profiles in courage

(cnn)

GOP lawmakers dodged the question when asked whether it was OK for Rudy Giuliani to mount a smear campaign against former ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.

Rep. Jim Jordan, who has been an active participant in the impeachment hearings, went silent at one point when asked.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:48:42pm

an OT question

i’ve noticed in tweets and online postings a recent trend where the lines are sorted in width order from say, shortest to longest

is this a thing?
does this have a name and is it significant somehow?

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2019 • 2:51:02pm

re: #242 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Odds on Gov Asshole doing the right thing?

[Embedded content]

Apparently, pretty good:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 15, 2019 • 3:00:04pm

The first shots are fired in the War on Christmas, 2019!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2019 • 3:00:33pm
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jaunte  Nov 15, 2019 • 3:05:10pm

re: #354 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

It has been called “concrete poetry.”
No.

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gocart mozart  Nov 15, 2019 • 3:20:17pm

re: #346 goddamnedfrank

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2019 • 3:39:21pm

re: #349 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh fuck you, Greg.

You CAN get through life without bribing people. You should try it sometime.

His mother probably had to tie a pork chop around his neck when he was a kid to bribe the dog to play with him.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2019 • 3:47:15pm

re: #323 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

All of those Democrats that sided with Republicans need to lose their seats

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2019 • 4:03:23pm

re: #352 Mike Lamb

You presume that there won’t be a deafening “Tut-tutting” from the media establishment, GOP, etc., saying we just need to move on; the past is in the past; etc.

I’m assuming I won’t care.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2019 • 4:05:05pm

re: #354 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

an OT question

i’ve noticed in tweets and online postings a recent trend where the lines are sorted in width order from say, shortest to longest

is this a thing?
does this have a name and is it significant somehow?

What lines?

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2019 • 4:11:10pm

re: #359 gocart mozart

Now imagine if we really are in the matrix.

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plansbandc  Nov 15, 2019 • 4:48:45pm

re: #355 Targetpractice

I’m so glad.


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