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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:15:00am

Work with Judy. Close enough. Made me laugh

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:15:14am
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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:18:03am
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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:20:51am

Good morning Lizards:

I hope you all enjoy another perfectly normal day:

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steve_davis  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:20:51am

and…I now have a moment with the sound down as Nunes provides us with whatever fantasies one arrives at after drinking sterno.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:21:28am

re: #4 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

Good morning Lizards:

I hope you all enjoy another perfectly normal day:

Awww that’s precious. They think they can control him.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:22:30am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Awww that’s precious. They think they can control him.

An audience of one….

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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:22:34am

When the facts are against you, pound the table and attack the media.

Moo.

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Targetpractice  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:23:05am

So the start of the second week of impeachment hearings by Nunes…is to claim that the fact that the Repubs are looking so fucking shitty is because the media are against them.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:23:28am
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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:24:16am

Nunes is being paid by the number of times he says ‘whistleblower.’

Dude needs some new material.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:25:12am

Evidence free accusations are the GOP way.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:25:34am

re: #10 jaunte

It’s only a partisan frenzy since your party is loyal not to the country’s interests but to Trump’s. You’re a bunch of pathetic assholes who sold out the few principles you had to protect a crypto autocratic freak who has no business anywhere near the WH.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:25:41am

I have Nunes on auto mute because fuck that clown amirite

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:25:57am

Our intelligence services are a problem for Nunes.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:27:08am

re: #10 jaunte

Partisan frenzy is what happened when Republicans held multiple hearings about Benghazi culminating in a 10 hour interrogation of Secretary Clinton. Now that was a witch hunt of epic proportions and it was strictly for political gain.

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jeffreyw  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:27:29am

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

I have Nunes on auto mute because fuck that clown amirite

I would pay a dollar for that Chrome extension.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:27:30am

re: #15 jaunte

Our intelligence services are a problem for Nunes.

Well they are at odds with his boss’s bosses.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:27:34am

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

I have Nunes on auto mute because fuck that clown amirite

Me too. I’ll be doing that for the rest of the day.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:27:49am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:27:49am

re: #16 Patricia Kayden

Partisan frenzy is what happened when Republicans held multiple hearings about Benghazi culminating in a 10 hour interrogation of Secretary Clinton. Now that was a witch hunt of epic proportions and it was strictly for political gain.

McCarthy even admitted that.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:28:08am

I thought Hunter Biden made $50K a month? Nunes just said $83K.

Guess he got a raise…

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Teukka  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:28:26am

re: #3 Targetpractice

Downthread in that tweet…

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:28:32am

“Half the country” didn’t vote for the president*

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:28:48am

I unmuted him for a bit and it was a mistake.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:29:11am

re: #22 makeitstop

Hunter Biden is irrelevant to these proceedings.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:29:38am

re: #24 jaunte

“Half the country” didn’t vote for the president*

Fact: More people voted against Trump than voted for him.

Second fact: More people voting for Obama than against him never stopped Devin’s party or President from delegitimizing him.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:30:06am

Excellent!

Trump’s visit to Mississippi boosted GOP turnout in the region he visited by 5%, but boosted Democratic turnout by 12%.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:32:05am

re: #28 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Excellent!

Trump’s visit to Mississippi boosted GOP turnout in the region he visited by 5%, but boosted Democratic turnout by 12%.

There are more of us than them and I think we’re going to see that next fall especially when Trump is oging to have to fight hard to retain states that have been Republican a long time.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:32:27am

Getting her republican creds on the record.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:34:32am

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:35:34am

re: #16 Patricia Kayden

Partisan frenzy is what happened when Republicans held multiple hearings about Benghazi culminating in a 10 hour interrogation of Secretary Clinton. Now that was a witch hunt of epic proportions and it was strictly for political gain.

And she yawned her way though it

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:35:45am

re: #31 goddamnedfrank

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:38:22am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:39:27am

She took notes and transcribed the call. Sent it up to Pence in his daily briefing. Doesn’t know if he read it.

She took notes.

She transcribed the call.

She reported it to pence.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:39:54am

re: #35 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Pence knew.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:40:24am

re: #24 jaunte

“Half the country” didn’t vote for the president*

Sure it did.

If you measure “the country” by square miles, rather than # of resident human beings.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:43:23am

re: #33 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:43:41am

This is brutal. He doesn’t read especially well, nerves likely, but it is devastating.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:43:58am

re: #36 jaunte

Pence knew.

YouTube

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steve_davis  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:44:06am

I like this guy, but jesus, he sucks as a reader.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:44:39am

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:45:12am

re: #39 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This is brutal. He doesn’t read especially well, nerves likely, but it is devastating.

It works for me. Others may see it differently but nobody is going to accuse him of putting on a polished, rehearsed performance.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:47:33am

What stupid procedural question will they interrupt with today?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:48:58am

Pence says the call is classified. Not allowed to answer questions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:49:54am

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

Hunter Biden is irrelevant to these proceedings.

But without him the GOP has no defense…

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:52:02am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:56:07am

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

It works for me. Others may see it differently but nobody is going to accuse him of putting on a polished, rehearsed performance.

This has to be the biggest audience he’s ever addressed. I don’t blame him if he has nerves. Nerves are human.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:57:44am

re: #47 jaunte

rudy’s lawyers

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:57:50am

He’s definitely nailing down all the particulars here.

I don’t see any way anyone on the R side is going to be able to defuse this.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:58:16am

re: #50 makeitstop

He’s definitely nailing down all the particulars here.

I don’t see any way anyone on the R side is going to be able to defuse this.

Oh they’ll try.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 6:59:10am

re: #50 makeitstop

He’s definitely nailing down all the particulars here.

I don’t see any way anyone on the R side is going to be able to defuse this.

They’ll attack him personally. That is all they have.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:00:23am

Or perhaps they’re just now getting around to opening their desk drawers?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:00:59am

re: #52 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They’ll attack him personally. That is all they have.

He’s an American by choice which is something Trump and his cronies cannot say about themselves.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:02:26am
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:02:38am

re: #47 jaunte

The SNL skit was spot on, as usual.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:02:49am

I have now been around the sun 50 times.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:03:00am

re: #53 Barefoot Grin

Or perhaps they’re just now getting around to opening their desk drawers?

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Remember when the W administration charged that exiting Clinton staffers removed all the W keys from the computers?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:03:07am

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mmmirele  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:03:11am

re: #17 jeffreyw

I would pay a dollar for that Chrome extension.

If it mooed I’d pay FIVE DOLLARS.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:04:20am

re: #53 Barefoot Grin

youve been press sec for 5 mos.

who’s this ‘we came into the WH’? you were press sec to the first lady then

you werent in the west wing

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:05:52am

re: #47 jaunte

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Can someone point me to where in the constitution it demands/allows the POTUS to do this? I couldn’t find it right off.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:05:56am

re: #57 Belafon

I have now been around the sun 50 times.

a decidedly heliocentric and not ego-centric thing to say

congrats

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:12:53am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:16:03am

Damn…gotta go to a meeting in a few minutes. Please comment on the testimony if you can. Thanks in advance!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:19:02am

re: #52 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They’ll attack him personally. That is all they have.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:20:14am

re: #57 Belafon

I have now been around the sun 50 times.

Thank you for bringing the planet, and the rest of us who reside on it, along with you on that journey.

Would have sucked if you’d left us behind.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:20:36am

re: #66 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They’re nothing but predictable scumbags.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:20:43am

re: #57 Belafon

I have now been around the sun 50 times.

Happy birthday! Celebrate the big one!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:21:37am

re: #66 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Waiting for the Joseph Welch moment when Republicans are asked if they have no shred of decency left…

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:21:45am

re: #57 Belafon

I have now been around the sun 50 times.

67,000 mph. Congratulations fellow speeder.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:22:30am

re: #58 makeitstop

Remember when the W administration charged that exiting Clinton staffers removed all the W keys from the computers?

It’s like victimhood is coded in their DNA.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:23:54am

re: #72 Barefoot Grin

It’s like victimhood is coded in their DNA.

Well, W’s ascension to the Presidency was pretty controversial.

And that is a pretty funny and relatively harmless prank.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:25:05am

And with this I bid you adieu. BBL

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:25:35am

re: #16 Patricia Kayden

Partisan frenzy is what happened when Republicans held multiple hearings about Benghazi culminating in a 10 hour interrogation of Secretary Clinton. Now that was a witch hunt of epic proportions and it was strictly for political gain.

My favorite bit about that particular nonsense is how she looked after the all-day grilling compared to how Gowdy Doody looked.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:26:06am

I’m loving how Goldman is eliciting Vindman’s testimony. He’s getting him to verify everything while relieving him of looking vindictive or partisan.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:30:32am

In other news…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:35:20am

re: #77 makeitstop

In other news…

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“I don’t know this woman. I never met her. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Have you seen the economy? We’re doing tremendous numbers. Tremendous.”

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:36:46am

re: #77 makeitstop

In other news…

“Of course I didn’t defame her. Look, if Hunter Biden can take a job in Ukraine, and not get in trouble, then there’s no reason I can’t have another Big Mac.”

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steve_davis  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:37:08am

i’m almost tempted to watch republicans here, just to see how bad things can get for them. But no, I will go buy bass guitar picks because I decided my christmas present to me this year would be a rickenbacker 4001. not a new one, because I’m a cheap bastard, but one that the dealer on reverb claims has been looked over by two guitar techs with no sign of anything being wrong (supposedly from a collector’s stable, but that always sounds like buying a car that was only ever driven by a little old lady to church on sundays).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:37:09am

re: #78 Eclectic Cyborg

“I don’t know this woman. I never met her. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Have you seen the economy? We’re doing tremendous numbers. Tremendous.”

I hate to say it, but as long as the job numbers and the stock market indices are looking good, that is going to work in Trump’s favor. He just needs to maintain those figures until November of next year.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:37:25am

Nunes playing eat the clock by asking both witnesses the same largely irrelevant questions.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:37:44am

re: #79 Belafon

“everything her lawyer said is Fake News.”

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steve_davis  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:37:52am

re: #80 steve_davis

sorry, a rickenbacker 4003, not a 4001.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:37:57am
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plansbandc  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:38:09am

re: #59 Joe Bacon 🌹

The inski and outski boxes make it art.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:38:41am

Does cow boy get a cookie for every time he says the name BIDEN?

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:39:08am

re: #80 steve_davis

i’m almost tempted to watch republicans here, just to see how bad things can get for them. But no, I will go buy bass guitar picks because I decided my christmas present to me this year would be a rickenbacker 4001. not a new one, because I’m a cheap bastard, but one that the dealer on reverb claims has been looked over by two guitar techs with no sign of anything being wrong (supposedly from a collector’s stable, but that always sounds like buying a car that was only ever driven by a little old lady to church on sundays).

That’s a nice bass! It’s actually easier to buy a used one, because Rickenbacker’s wait list is a long one.

What color? My fave Ric finish is fireglow.

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dirkdigglerjr  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:39:15am

re: #57 Belafon

Had my 50th nearly 2 years ago. The present from my wife was letting me know my colonoscopy appointment was going to be a week later. What a lady!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:39:29am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I hate to say it, but as long as the job numbers and the stock market indices are looking good, that is going to work in Trump’s favor. He just needs to maintain those figures until November of next year.

Which is looking increasingly unlikely. The economy is already shaky thanks to Trumps Trade war and most economists agree all signs are pointing towards recession. I’m hoping for a fallout around late summer next year so people are plenty pissed come November.

Unless the asshole gets impeached before then.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:40:26am

re: #82 makeitstop

Nunes playing eat the clock by asking both witnesses the same largely irrelevant questions.

They are not really questions, just him reading the facts he wants to into the record

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:40:52am
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:41:20am

re: #91 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

They are not really questions, just him reading the facts he wants to into the record

Someone should tell Nunes his comments will go on the same computer the phone calls were placed.

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plansbandc  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:42:01am

re: #89 dirkdigglerjr

When I turned 50, dude said HB and handed me my AARP card.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:43:33am

I refuse to call myself a senior citizen until I am at LEAST 55.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:43:57am

Evan Hurst at Wonkette pretty much summarized cow boy’s questions:

NUNES: I am going to ask Vindman the same questions, none of which make sense to anybody who doesn’t huff paint off Sean Hannity’s sexxx nipples.

VINDMAN: I have zero idea what the fuck any of you are talking about.

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dirkdigglerjr  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:46:36am

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

But by all means get the discounts if you can. 5 or 10 percent off here or a free food/beverage item there can really add up.

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steve_davis  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:46:45am

re: #88 makeitstop

That’s a nice bass! It’s actually easier to buy a used one, because Rickenbacker’s wait list is a long one.

What color? My fave Ric finish is fireglow.

yep. mine’s a fireglow! It had the UPS label generated yesterday and is supposed to be here Friday. I’ve already ordered a bezel so that I don’t have to try to play around what is wryly known as the “talent inhibitor” they thoughtfully installed over the bridge pickup.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:46:58am

Castor the Clown is up.

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Interesting Times  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:46:59am
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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:47:45am

re: #99 makeitstop

Castor the Clown is up.

Did Nunes just call it an impeachment INQUISITION process or did I hear him wrong?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:47:51am

I’m glad they’re bringing in the false allegations that Ukraine meddled in 2016. That should ultimately be an opening to discussing Mueller Report more.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:48:27am

re: #101 BeachDem

Did Nunes just call it an impeachment INQUISITION process or did I hear him wrong?

He did.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:49:17am

Asshole Nunes gets put in his place.

The GOP are such supporters of our troops…. that they ignore their rank and status when they’re in front of them telling them the truth under oath as to GOP crimes and malfeasance.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:49:52am

re: #99 makeitstop

Castor the Clown is up.

Entry Of The Gladiators - Julius Fucik

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:50:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:52:42am

re: #90 Eclectic Cyborg

Which is looking increasingly unlikely. The economy is already shaky thanks to Trumps Trade war and most economists agree all signs are pointing towards recession. I’m hoping for a fallout around late summer next year so people are plenty pissed come November.

Unless the asshole gets impeached before then.

He still has a lot of executive tricks up his voluminous sleeves…

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Stanley Sea  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:53:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:53:41am

re: #100 Interesting Times

Devin Nunes is what would happen if someone tried to make stupid from concentrate, but forgot to add water.

or rather boiled it down and added a bag of hammers

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:56:29am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:57:42am

re: #100 Interesting Times

It’s a little early to award You Win The Internet Today, but I’m willing to go ahead and offer it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:58:00am

re: #110 makeitstop

“Over here! Over HERE! Look at me! Look at MEEEEE!”

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:58:34am

re: #104 lawhawk

Asshole Nunes gets put in his place.

The GOP are such supporters of our troops…. that they ignore their rank and status when they’re in front of them telling them the truth under oath as to GOP crimes and malfeasance.

Careful, just ‘correcting’ Nunes means the whole process is an ‘inquisition’.

/

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:59:14am

re: #104 lawhawk

Asshole Nunes gets put in his place.

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The GOP are such supporters of our troops…. that they ignore their rank and status when they’re in front of them telling them the truth under oath as to GOP crimes and malfeasance.

Freepers and other idiots have been making a point of trashing Vindman for wearing his uniform. They claim that he normally worked in a civilian suit at the NSC, which is an utter bullshit objection, and that the uniform is therefore some kind of affectation to which he is not entitled. I wonder if they know he was wearing a uniform when he was wounded in Iraq. I’m not 100% sure but I also think it is an actual requirement for active duty officers to appear in uniform when they testify to Congress about anything that has to do with their official duties.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 7:59:24am

re: #110 makeitstop

Oh, there’s always a rock below that bottom to descend to.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:00:11am

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Freepers and other idiots have been making a point of trashing Vindman for wearing his uniform. They claim that he normally worked in a civilian suit at the NSC, which is an utter bullshit objection, and that the uniform is therefore some kind of affectation to which he is not entitled. I wonder if they know he was wearing a uniform when he was wounded in Iraq. I’m not 100% sure but I also think it is an actual requirement for active duty officers to appear in uniform when they testify to Congress about anything that has to do with their official duties.

Sssssh, only the GOP truly loves are troops.

//

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:00:44am

re: #110 makeitstop

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re: #114 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Those same assholes praised Dope Pusher Ollie North when he wore his full uniform at the Iran-Contra hearings!

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:01:05am

My mom, 91 years old, can’t drive this week
She had an issue with a cornea so the doc put some kind of film with medicine in it covers by a clear contact. So mom can’t see. And she’s real uncomfortable.

In any event im sitting in a ladies hair and nails salon.
Probably first time since I’m a child.

It’s an…experience.

Oh and it turns out they all know all about me and my sibs.
And when I say all I mean staff and customers alike

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calochortus  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:01:16am

re: #117 Joe Bacon 🌹

Those same assholes praised Dope Pusher Ollie North when he wore his full uniform at the Iran-Contra hearings!

That was different!
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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:01:20am

re: #110 makeitstop

Question: will DrumpF actually know anyone at this cabinet meeting of acting actings acting assistant to the acting secretaries?

/

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:01:49am

re: #118 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

My mom, 91 years old, can’t drive this week
She had an issue with a cornea so the doc put some kind of film with medicine in it covers by a clear contact. So mom can’t see. And she’s real uncomfortable.

In any event im sitting in a ladies hair and nails salon.
Probably first time since I’m a child.

It’s an…experience.

Oh and it turns out they all know all about me and my sibs.
And when I say all I mean staff and customers alike

That’s a bit…unnerving. lol

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:02:27am

re: #22 makeitstop

I thought Hunter Biden made $50K a month? Nunes just said $83K.

Guess he got a raise…

I saw that on a wingnut board as well; must’ve come from Fox News.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:03:09am

re: #122 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I saw that on a wingnut board as well; must’ve come from Fox News.

It’s the Trump strategy. Keep raising the numbers until they are large enough to attract serious attention.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:03:13am

re: #22 makeitstop

I thought Hunter Biden made $50K a month? Nunes just said $83K.

Guess he got a raise…

in Drump world, doesn’t making more moneys just mean that one is a true Genius and really Smart?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:03:17am

re: #120 Sir John Barron

Question: will DrumpF actually know anyone at this cabinet meeting of acting actings acting assistant to the acting secretaries?

/

Doesn’t matter because they are all there to kiss his ass.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:03:43am

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Freepers and other idiots have been making a point of trashing Vindman for wearing his uniform. They claim that he normally worked in a civilian suit at the NSC, which is an utter bullshit objection, and that the uniform is therefore some kind of affectation to which he is not entitled. I wonder if they know he was wearing a uniform when he was wounded in Iraq. I’m not 100% sure but I also think it is an actual requirement for active duty officers to appear in uniform when they testify to Congress about anything that has to do with their official duties.

That’s the best they got?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:04:14am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

That’s the best they got?

Owned Libtardz!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:04:32am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

That’s the best they got?

Yes. Which oughta tell you how fucked Trump is at this point.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:04:37am

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s a bit…unnerving. lol

She asked if I wanted to wait in the car. I said no.
Now there’s no getting out of it. ;-)

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calochortus  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:04:44am

re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s the Trump strategy. Keep raising the numbers until they are large enough to attract serious attention.

Or to make a Biden bristle and say “that’s not true.” At which point they invite him in to discuss it in front of a committee.
But perhaps I’m giving them too much credit for strategy?

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:06:27am

re: #117 Joe Bacon 🌹

Those same assholes praised Dope Pusher Ollie North when he wore his full uniform at the Iran-Contra hearings!

I wrote downstairs

Oliver north was (maybe rightly) afraid of bin laden..a foreigner and an actual enemy

Vindmans legitimate issue is with fellow Americans goaded on by..his own boss..yes the president of the United States

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:07:09am

re: #118 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

Oh and it turns out they all know all about me and my sibs.
And when I say all I mean staff and customers alike

When they say “all about you”, it’s more than you can imagine.

The most embarrassing moments of your time in elementary school, words you couldn’t pronounce properly when you lost your baby teeth, who first broke your heart and who she married instead, the silliest Halloween costume you ever wore, childhood illnesses and exactly where the chicken pox were located…

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:07:57am
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:08:35am

re: #132 sagehen

When they say “all about you”, it’s more than you can imagine.

The most embarrassing moments of your time in elementary school, words you couldn’t pronounce properly when you lost your baby teeth, who first broke your heart and who she married instead, the silliest Halloween costume you ever wore, childhood illnesses and exactly where the chicken pox were located…

I’ve just curled up in a ball in the corner

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:10:24am

re: #132 sagehen

When they say “all about you”, it’s more than you can imagine.

The most embarrassing moments of your time in elementary school, words you couldn’t pronounce properly when you lost your baby teeth, who first broke your heart and who she married instead, the silliest Halloween costume you ever wore, childhood illnesses and exactly where the chicken pox were located…

Hence my comment about it being unnerving.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:12:12am

This Minority Counsel is really quite lame. The whole sea lion thing is pathetic.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:14:57am

re: #136 Dave In Austin

This Minority Counsel is really quite lame. The whole sea lion thing is pathetic.

The few decent lawyers the GOP has aren’t going to risk adding being a Trump toadie to their resume.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:15:15am

Already walking it back

Grisham clarified to NBC News that she didn’t mean to suggest that the notes were left in every White House office, only in a press area.

“I’m not sure where her office was, and I certainly wasn’t implying every office had that issue,” Grisham wrote, referring to Rice’s office. “In fact, I had a lovely note left for me in the East Wing, and I tracked the woman down and thanked her. I was talking specifically about our experience in the lower press office — nowhere else. I don’t know why everyone is so sensitive!”

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Jay C  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:15:23am

re: #133 lawhawk

So: will they be holding these guys in the prison they used to work at?
Or will that be considered too dangerous for them….??

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:15:35am

re: #136 Dave In Austin

This Minority Counsel is really quite lame. The whole sea lion thing is pathetic.

He’s trying to infer that Vindman’s a traitor by repeatedly bringing up the ‘offer’ of becoming Ukrainian Defense Minister.

Asshole.

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Interesting Times  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:17:09am

Ha:

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Jay C  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:17:15am

re: #136 Dave In Austin

This Minority Counsel is really quite lame. The whole sea lion thing is pathetic.

Is it still Steve (“I drew the short straw”) Castor?

And “sea lion”??

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:17:34am

re: #136 Dave In Austin

This Minority Counsel is really quite lame. The whole sea lion thing is pathetic.

He’s a veteran of Fast and Furious and Benghazi. Getting facts and evidence aren’t his strong suit.

Using these kinds of proceedings to smear witnesses providing damaging testimony to the GOP, and otherwise spreading conspiracy theories are his jam.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:19:50am

Oh—they can’t get Vindman’s title right, but correct him to refer to Rudy as “America’s Mayor.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:20:33am

Pathetic.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:20:49am

re: #144 BeachDem

Oh—they can’t get Vindman’s title right, but correct him to refer to Rudy as “America’s Mayor.”

What I heard when I came back.

BARF.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:21:32am

re: #142 Jay C

Google sea lioning. Smarmily agreeing while disagreeing is the best I can describe it. “Why do you really feel that way”….. shit like that. It’s actually a trolling tactic.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:21:58am

re: #144 BeachDem

Oh—they can’t get Vindman’s title right, but correct him to refer to Rudy as “America’s Mayor.”

JFC that’s not an official title. It’s a fucking nickname that Rudy did nothing to deserve.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:23:06am

re: #144 BeachDem

Oh—they can’t get Vindman’s title right, but correct him to refer to Rudy as “America’s Mayor.”

“I’m sorry is that some sort of rank or title”?

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:23:09am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:23:38am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

JFC that’s not an official title. It’s a fucking nickname that Rudy did nothing to deserve.

What was worse to me was Vindman saying he only knew Rudy as New York’s finest mayor.

Disgusting.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:24:08am

Serve Castor this…

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:24:18am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:25:31am

re: #153 lawhawk

He’s doing that now. In the interview.

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mmmirele  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:26:39am

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

I refuse to call myself a senior citizen until I am at LEAST 55.

59 here and NOT A SENIOR CITIZEN. My mother (79) is a senior citizen.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:27:41am

re: #142 Jay C

Is it still Steve (“I drew the short straw”) Castor?

And “sea lion”??

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:27:57am

re: #155 mmmirele

59 here and NOT A SENIOR CITIZEN. My mother (79) is a senior citizen.

Not calling myself a senior citizen until the Medicare card is in my wallet!

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:28:40am

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

I refuse to call myself a senior citizen until I am at LEAST 55.

You kids get off my lawn

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:29:41am

re: #155 mmmirele

59 here and NOT A SENIOR CITIZEN. My mother (79) is a senior citizen.

71 and I consider myself a Junior senior citizen.

Oy—I see Gym is suited up (not) and ready to go. Time to mute.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:32:58am

There seems to be a concerted effort by Republican gangsters to de-legitimize Vindman’s military service, from Castor’s moronic insinuations to Nun-cow’s “Mr. Vindman” to the goober talking point about his uniform. I would suspect a conspiracy, except that I don’t for a minute believe that the Republicans are that smart. It will convince no one, except possibly the lowest level of the goober base. It is just how they swing, lash out at any and all possibilities in the blind hope that something sticks.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:37:28am

re: #151 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What was worse to me was Vindman saying he only knew Rudy as New York’s finest mayor.

Disgusting.

Ick but you know what? That just tells you that it’s not a partisan cabal out to get Trump, Rudy, and friends.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:38:01am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:38:22am

I hope conservative veterans know that this shit will be done to them if they ever have an independent though regarding Trump Co.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:38:25am

I decided to visit Free Republic, and OW, my eyes! I saw better web page design when the Netscape browser came out.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:38:47am

re: #162 makeitstop

Well considering that the GOP is full of people who think McCarthy was wronged by history, it’s not a big stretch.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:41:17am

re: #164 BlueSpotinAL

I decided to visit Free Republic, and OW, my eyes! I saw better web page design when the Netscape browser came out.

RimJob is still running Freak Republic on his Commodore 64.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:41:46am

who funds The Federalist again?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:44:15am

Oh goody…Gym is up.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:44:34am

re: #164 BlueSpotinAL

I decided to visit Free Republic, and OW, my eyes! I saw better web page design when the Netscape browser came out.

This is the actual homepage of a local Real Estate Broker in my area:

And this is the “About Us” page for said Broker:

Whatever word is stronger than “cringeworthy”, it applies here.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:44:59am

Now Gym will attempt to besmirch Vindman. Because Gym is such an upstanding, honest broker. Ugh.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:45:08am

re: #167 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

who funds The Federalist again?

Yes, Don Jr, attack the guy who has served his adoptive country honorably. Great look there buddy..

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:46:26am

Really if you think Don Jr is a fine upstanding American and Colonel Vindman is not. You’re a pathetic hack.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:46:50am

re: #164 BlueSpotinAL

I decided to visit Free Republic, and OW, my eyes! I saw better web page design when the Netscape Mosaic browser came out.

Fixed that for me. :)

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Disloyal Archangel  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:48:25am
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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:48:34am
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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:48:53am

Gym is despicable. Now accusing not only Vindman but Schiff in the same sentence.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:49:27am

re: #160 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There seems to be a concerted effort by Republican gangsters to de-legitimize Vindman’s military service, from Castor’s moronic insinuations to Nun-cow’s “Mr. Vindman” to the goober talking point about his uniform. I would suspect a conspiracy, except that I don’t for a minute believe that the Republicans are that smart. It will convince no one, except possibly the lowest level of the goober base. It is just how they swing, lash out at any and all possibilities in the blind hope that something sticks.

What are they even saying? I can’t bear to watch or listen myself.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:50:07am

God, listening to this smarmy asshole makes me want to turn it off completely.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:50:51am

re: #178 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

God, listening to this smarmy asshole makes me want to turn it off completely.

Hah—that’s what they WANT you to do!

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:50:52am

re: #150 lawhawk

But what is there to question about his military service? And what about the substance of what POTUS did? Oh, wait, right, the GOP doesn’t care about that.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:51:50am

re: #179 BeachDem

Hah—that’s what they WANT you to do!

I know. it’s not working but fuck if it’s not tempting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:51:58am

re: #167 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Let’s Stop Pretending Every Impeachment Witness Is A Selfless Hero

No, just the ones who still testify despite having received threats to their life and health…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:51:58am

re: #153 lawhawk

This, this, and then some more of this.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:52:39am

re: #167 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

who funds The Federalist again?

Let’s stop pretending that The Federalist has any credibility, and who funds The Federalist again?

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:53:00am

re: #178 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

God, listening to this smarmy asshole makes me want to turn it off completely.

That’s the fucking point.

They want people to tune out because they are smearing witnesses, and hope the media both-sides the hell out of events.

None of this helps Trump.

What have we learned so far? We learned the GOP doesn’t care what fact-witnesses have to say about the call, and continue to seek to out the whistleblower, even though they are hearing from people with direct knowledge of the call.

The GOP refuses to treat a soldier in uniform with even basic respect of the title deserved.

The GOP is pushing the same tired talking points, because the facts and evidence support no other conclusion than Trumpworld engaged in multiple felonies re: Ukraine and extorting the Ukrainians into announcing they are investigating Trump’s political rivals to further Trump’s personal political fortunes.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:53:16am

re: #167 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

who funds The Federalist again?

“These impeachment witnesses are no angels.”

/

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:54:46am

re: #175 lawhawk

Rep. Jim Jordan: Your bosses & colleagues had “concerns about your judgement” & thought you might be leaking to the media. Why?

And we have concerns about your judgment, Gym, and your president’s judgment, and your party’s judgment.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:54:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:55:37am
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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:56:04am

Whoa—getting it on the record that Republicans are total assholes for attacking Vindman’s loyalty. Good job, lawyer Goldman.

Correction—Himes.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:56:24am

re: #139 Jay C

Not sure, but that is definitely a concern. Then again, they may benefit from being allowed to post bail instead of spending any time in jail awaiting trial.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:56:25am

Trump really trying to incite violence against Dems here…

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:56:56am

re: #190 BeachDem

Whoa—getting it on the record that Republicans are total assholes for attacking Vindman’s loyalty. Good job, lawyer Goldman.

That was Hines. Both Dem counsels are excellent.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:57:08am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

And despite what Jim, Don Jr, Devin, Trump, and friends try to claim. There is no evidence he’s partisan let alone that partisan motives are behind his testimony. The one who looks partisan here is Gym not the Colonel.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:58:03am

Experienced leadership is paying off big time here guys. Both on Nancy’s part and Schiff’s.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:58:07am

re: #193 makeitstop

That was Hines. Both Dem counsels are excellent.

Oops—thanks for the correction.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:58:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:59:01am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rep. Himes to Vindman: “Are you a ‘Never Trumper?’”

Vindman: “I would call myself a ‘never partisan.’”

That is a brilliant response to a leading question.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:59:09am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:59:11am

Dude, is there a question in there somewhere? Anywhere?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:59:11am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nice going Republicans.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:59:38am

Ratcliff is almost as smarmy as Gym. And the stack of papers is so fucking lame, Johnny.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:59:41am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

And despite what Jim, Don Jr, Devin, Trump, and friends try to claim. There is no evidence he’s partisan let alone that partisan motives are behind his testimony. The one who looks partisan here is Gym not the Colonel.

Hard to believe the most rabidly partisan administration and congressional GOP in history is complaining about someone else’s perceived partisanship.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:59:54am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

Goddamn Himes. Brilliant.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:01:29am

re: #203 Sir John Barron

Hard to believe the most rabidly partisan administration and congressional GOP in history is complaining about someone else’s perceived partisanship.

Ha I know right? But now the rest of the country sees it. Seriously the optics on this are awful. You’ve got a man in Jordan who has shown zero independence of Trump attacking a man who is serving in the military on his fourth president and calling him partisan since he raised concerns about an issue that 70% of Americans think is a problem. I doubt Gym loses re-election but he’s going to be sweating without wearing a suit jacket next fall.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:01:43am

re: #188 lawhawk

Oh so mister I’m busy working I don’t have time to watch the hearings potus is attacking the witnesses again.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:02:34am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah but what about DJT’s great purple hearts and military service?

///

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:02:59am

re: #164 BlueSpotinAL

I decided to visit Free Republic, and OW, my eyes! I saw better web page design when the Netscape browser came out.

You still can’t post a link on freep without entering the HTML characters yourself. This is the only reason I know HTML even as well as I do. Incredibly, I still have posting privileges at freep.

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Interesting Times  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:04:38am
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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:06:33am

re: #156 sagehen

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Yes….. That! Thank you.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:08:49am

re: #160 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There seems to be a concerted effort by Republican gangsters to de-legitimize Vindman’s military service, from Castor’s moronic insinuations to Nun-cow’s “Mr. Vindman” to the goober talking point about his uniform. I would suspect a conspiracy, except that I don’t for a minute believe that the Republicans are that smart. It will convince no one, except possibly the lowest level of the goober base. It is just how they swing, lash out at any and all possibilities in the blind hope that something sticks.

“Just remember, service members, if you do your duty and defend the Constitution, Republicans will turn on you.”

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:09:24am

When’s the next break? I need to go vote in a runoff city council election between an incumbent I don’t particularly like and a challenger I loathe with the heat of a thousand suns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:09:56am
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:10:20am

re: #164 BlueSpotinAL

I decided to visit Free Republic, and OW, my eyes! I saw better web page design when the Netscape browser came out.

A website only Lynx would love.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:11:14am

got your mostly unscathed though j have started sucking my thumb again

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:11:21am
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Sherlock Hound  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:11:47am

re: #214 Belafon

A website only Lynx would love.

I loved Lynx and would not use it to experience Freepers.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:12:39am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He knows this. He knows Joe & Joan MAGA don’t.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:14:06am

News from goober-world:

Authorities identify man arrested after Monday chase that injured 2 deputies


Lubbock Sheriff’s deputies tried to arrest this mastermind on a domestic violence (strangulation) warrant. He took off, running over one deputy’s foot and hitting another with his car door.
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:14:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:14:33am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Nixon impeachment inquiry didn’t just cover the Watergate break-in and cover-up.

The House Judiciary Committee voted on articles of impeachment over the bombing of Cambodia & tax fraud, and considered a range of other issues, too.

These things are supposed to be expansive.

High Crimes and Misdemeanors, not just “Quid pro Quo or No?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:16:44am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:17:06am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:19:29am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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He’s loyal to his country though. These fucking assholes.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:23:33am

re: #223 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And an officer’s oath is to the Constitution, not the President.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:26:09am

re: #225 Belafon

And an officer’s oath is to the Constitution, not the President.

we can fix that, just like the Germans did in 1934

“Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid,
daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Reiches und Volkes
Adolf Hitler, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht,
unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will,
jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen.”

“I swear to God this sacred oath
that to the Leader of the German Reich and people,
Adolf Hitler, supreme commander of the armed forces,
I shall render unconditional obedience and that as a brave soldier I shall at all times be prepared
to give my life for this oath.”

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:26:44am

Rep. Stewart, is it normal to wear your father’s Air Force wings?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:27:52am

re: #227 jaunte

Rep. Stewart, is it normal to wear your father’s Air Force wings?

That’s different.//

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:28:14am

re: #227 jaunte

Rep. Stewart, is it normal to wear your father’s Air Force wings?

This asshole. ‘As one military family to another.’ Fuck you.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:28:16am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That would take an act of Congress.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:28:23am
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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:29:08am

R’s still trying to pretend this president* doesn’t operate like a Mafia don.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:29:10am

re: #225 Belafon

And an officer’s oath is to the Constitution, not the President.

“I pledge allegiance to the President of the United States of America, and to the house of cards on which he stands, one moron, concerned only for himself, dividing us all, with liberty and justice for rich, white Christians.”

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:29:35am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:30:12am

re: #234 makeitstop

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He ain’t wrong.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:32:09am
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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:33:43am
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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:35:17am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:36:21am

Ugh this bitch again.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:36:26am

Oh fuck, it’s Elise. I need a drink.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:38:29am

re: #238 jaunte

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Glad Breitbart is informing our executive branch.//

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:38:45am

re: #239 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Ugh this bitch again.

She’s beatable. I hope they vote her out of office. She can take her propaganda to Fox News.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:38:50am

re: #237 makeitstop

WTAF?

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Geopolitics. How does it work?

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:38:59am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:39:00am

re: #237 makeitstop

WTAF?

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Unbelievable! Next week is the 69th anniversary of China’s intervention in the Korean War.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:39:35am

re: #240 BeachDem

Oh fuck, it’s Elise. I need a drink.

Time to see if she helps torpedo her re-election chances in NY-21 further. Her last escapade helped her projected opponent raise $1 million in campaign funds.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:40:04am

Didn’t Don Jr. sit on the corrupt board of Trump Org? Trump foundation? A board accused of corruption, bribery and money laundering?

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:40:17am

Welp—Elise is back to impeaching Obama. WTF is she going on about?

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:41:26am

re: #247 Eventual Carrion

Exploring the propriety of nepotism is a big loser for Republicans in general.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:41:30am

A simultaneous fart was just released across the Nation.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:42:01am

Can’t wait to see Stefanik get her comeuppance next year. Her district may be pinkish, but it’s not deep red Trumpland, especially in a presidential year with high turnout. And she’s not the type who’ll have a Fox News spokesblonde career awaiting her after she’s turfed out.

And I have to say, it puzzles me. She went to Harvard. She’s not stupid. She’s veered away from GOP orthodoxy in the past. It would be so damn easy for her to triangulate in ways that would keep her in her seat for decades. And instead she’s driving right off the cliff.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:43:41am

re: #251 i(m)p(each)sos

Can’t wait to see Stefanik get her comeuppance next year. Her district may be pinkish, but it’s not deep red Trumpland, especially in a presidential year with high turnout. And she’s not the type who’ll have a Fox News spokesblonde career awaiting her after she’s turfed out.

And I have to say, it puzzles me. She went to Harvard. She’s not stupid. She’s veered away from GOP orthodoxy in the past. It would be so damn easy for her to triangulate in ways that would keep her in her seat for decades. And instead she’s driving right off the cliff.

She can always go back into plywood.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:44:49am

re: #251 i(m)p(each)sos

Can’t wait to see Stefanik get her comeuppance next year. Her district may be pinkish, but it’s not deep red Trumpland, especially in a presidential year with high turnout. And she’s not the type who’ll have a Fox News spokesblonde career awaiting her after she’s turfed out.

And I have to say, it puzzles me. She went to Harvard. She’s not stupid. She’s veered away from GOP orthodoxy in the past. It would be so damn easy for her to triangulate in ways that would keep her in her seat for decades. And instead she’s driving right off the cliff.

A newspaper in her district (the one in Glens Falls I believe) already put out an editorial on how she came in looking as someone who could do the jump, but has seemingly morphed into a talking-point robot glued to Trump’s ass (so to speak).

And if she trashes Vindman at all that will not help her much since Fort Drum is in her district as well.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:44:56am

re: #244 jaunte

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I didn’t think that Lindsey wasn’t going to be paying attention to this?

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:45:20am

re: #251 i(m)p(each)sos

Can’t wait to see Stefanik get her comeuppance next year. Her district may be pinkish, but it’s not deep red Trumpland, especially in a presidential year with high turnout. And she’s not the type who’ll have a Fox News spokesblonde career awaiting her after she’s turfed out.

And I have to say, it puzzles me. She went to Harvard. She’s not stupid. She’s veered away from GOP orthodoxy in the past. It would be so damn easy for her to triangulate in ways that would keep her in her seat for decades. And instead she’s driving right off the cliff.

I read an article about her statements from last week. She, and other young Republicans, are basically showing that they think Trumpism is where the party will be for a long time.

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Citizen K  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:52:33am

re: #237 makeitstop

WTAF?

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Trump succeeding in burning down decades upon decades of alliance building, foreign policy work, and geopotlicking, in a matter of 3 years.

The only allies we seem to have left are Russia and the anglosphere countries that are having a similar right-wing authoritarian meltdown. And Russia isn’t so much even an ally at this point as it is our de facto parent state thanks to Trump.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:52:34am

Republicans are notably unaware that immigrant soldiers are a strong tradition in the US armed forces. Citizenship has NEVER been a requirement for enlistment. I remember dumb-shit Republicans expressing outrage that Obama was allowing foreigners to join the armed forces, as though it was one of his nefarious innovations, along with the “Obama phone” (actually started by Reagan) and the foreign language requirement in Texas high schools (on the books since 1921).

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:54:13am

re: #257 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Republicans are notably unaware that immigrant soldiers are a strong tradition in the US armed forces. Citizenship has NEVER been a requirement for enlistment. I remember dumb-shit Republicans expressing outrage that Obama was allowing foreigners to join the armed forces, as though it was one of his nefarious innovations, along with the “Obama phone” (actually started by Reagan) and the foreign language requirement in Texas high schools (on the books since 1921).

Ignorance of history and interest in accuracy seems to be a feature (requirement?) of the current GOP rank and file.

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Citizen K  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:54:44am

re: #257 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Republicans are notably unaware that immigrant soldiers are a strong tradition in the US armed forces. Citizenship has NEVER been a requirement for enlistment. I remember dumb-shit Republicans expressing outrage that Obama was allowing foreigners to join the armed forces, as though it was one of his nefarious innovations, along with the “Obama phone” (actually started by Reagan) and the foreign language requirement in Texas high schools (on the books since 1921).

I mean, they go so far as to blame Obama for the existence of racism and literally claim he personally instigated a resurgence after decades of idyllic color-blindness.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:55:37am

Trump’s useful idiots resist thinking of themselves as Putin’s useful idiots, but it’s true.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:57:22am

Ratcliffe back up with his wordplay.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:58:48am

You never actually HEARD heard the president say “it,” did you?

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2019 • 9:59:11am

Ratcliffe had to go to the elbow for that one.

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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:00:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:01:19am
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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:02:11am

Fuck off, Gym, you disrepectful, lying asshole.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:02:30am

Jordan’s voice is so unpleasant people must agree with him just to get him to shut the fuck up.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:02:32am

re: #255 Belafon

I read an article about her statements from last week. She, and other young Republicans, are basically showing that they think Trumpism is where the party will be for a long time.

That’s my hypothesis as well. Look at her and Gaetz. Both under 40 and both solidly defending Trump. Granted Gaetz is from a bright red district so he could be just a young Steve King but Elsie was someone who had a fairly moderate by House GOP standards reputation.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:02:36am

Not enough pizzazz. Nunez needs one of those propeller beanies.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:02:48am
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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:03:20am
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A Mom Anon  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:03:27am

re: #264 gocart mozart

Oh this motherfucker right here needs to stand down and STFU. What a sociopath.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:07:57am

re: #270 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I’ve had shitty, asshole bosses through the years also.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:08:14am

Yes, he’s an imposter. Or he could release his taxes.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:09:04am

Is there a question in there, shouty Gym, or are you just going to rant your bullshit.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:10:28am

Shut up, Boomhauer.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:10:33am

Imposters refuse to submit to lawful subpoenas.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:11:11am

re: #270 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Morrison served in his post for three months in August through October, 2019. I’d trust his eval about as far as I could throw him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:11:32am

re: #277 jaunte

Imposters refuse to submit to lawful subpoenas.

A Democratic Congress cannot issue lawful subpoenas, only hunt witches…

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:12:30am
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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:12:36am

Please, I’m asking nicely, STFU, Gym, you miscreant asshole.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:12:47am

re: #279 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A Democratic Congress cannot issue lawful subpoenas, only hunt witches…

Someone should play clips of witch hunter animes and show why Trump should be scared.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:13:40am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:13:54am
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:14:11am

re: #280 jaunte

That would be a good graphic for the Dems, showing all of the convictions since Trump took office, and contrast it with Obama’s. And put on the poster “We’ll Trump is better than Obama at something.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:15:43am
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Citizen K  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:16:35am

re: #284 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The problem is just how many of those polled are ‘wrong Americans’, not ‘Real Americans’.

Real American-ness is solely the province of Republicans, remember. They ‘re the only ones who are truly and wholly legitimate by default, and everyone else is a fake whose Americanness is conditional.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:17:54am

re: #286 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You wouldn’t want Republicans deciding they should run against Trump, would you? //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:18:47am

re: #287 Citizen K

The problem is just how many of those polled are ‘wrong Americans’, not ‘Real Americans’.

Real American-ness is solely the province of Republicans, remember. They ‘re the only ones who are truly and wholly legitimate by default, and everyone else is a fake whose Americanness is conditional.

They are the only ones who own guns as well.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:19:12am

re: #286 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That the RNC isn’t sharing that data tells you the bottom is falling out and if the party faithful knew the extent of the damage, they’d turn on Trump so fast they’d make your head spin. They would act so fast because time is so short to find a replacement to run in Trump’s stead.

Fuck that- let them all hide the facts so the GOP is blind sided by reality. Let them suffer from the chaos and backstabbing. They deserve all that and more.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:20:36am

re: #279 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A Democratic Congress cannot issue lawful subpoenas, only hunt witches…

Maybe the solution is for the Democrats to find a large duck and then see if Trump and it weigh the same.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:23:55am

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:24:14am

Val Demings (following applause for Vindman)—she’s always good.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:25:53am

This Turning Point nitwit thinks this is damning information. It’s bulkshit spun from nonsense assumptions - that Vindman was source for whistleblower or that Vindman somehow broke the law.

Recall Vindman is testifying under oath, and these right wing yahoos can just spew nonsense without fear of repercussion from Trump on down.

There’s no fact that Vindman went outside the chain of command.

And if the information Vindman was putting together ended up in the hands of the whistleblower because of the WB role in govt, that’s not Vindman if Vindman followed the law.

These people… are fucking nuts.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:30:32am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:30:54am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:31:00am
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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:32:52am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

MIni-Trump!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:35:14am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:38:59am

It’s starting to occur to the Republicans that Trump is essentially finished, but it’s too late for them to abandon the sinking ship. What we now see is the desperate thrashing of trapped rats.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:39:12am

Vindman: If I were to testify against the president in Russia, I would be killed.

Congressman: What makes you say you’ll be okay, telling the truth here?

Vindman: Because this is America.

(applause)

(DNC ad-makers jumping on a useful snippet)

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:39:40am
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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:40:19am

re: #294 lawhawk

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This Turning Point nitwit thinks this is damning information. It’s bulkshit spun from nonsense assumptions - that Vindman was source for whistleblower or that Vindman somehow broke the law.

Recall Vindman is testifying under oath, and these right wing yahoos can just spew nonsense without fear of repercussion from Trump on down.

There’s no fact that Vindman went outside the chain of command.

And if the information Vindman was putting together ended up in the hands of the whistleblower because of the WB role in govt, that’s not Vindman if Vindman followed the law.

These people… are fucking nuts.

Even if Vindman went outside the chain of command, if he believed his superiors were violating the law or not transmitting information regarding violations of the law to their proper superiors he had at the very least a moral obligation to go outside the chain of command to report such.

And coming from Jordan, of all fucking people, this “well, all you have to do is tell your boss” bullshit is just the crystallization of moral cowardice in the face wrongdoing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:42:21am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:45:14am

re: #292 The Pie Overlord!

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:46:49am

re: #303 KGxvi

Even if Vindman went outside the chain of command, if he believed his superiors were violating the law or not transmitting information regarding violations of the law to their proper superiors he had at the very least a moral obligation to go outside the chain of command to report such.

And coming from Jordan, of all fucking people, this “well, all you have to do is tell your boss” bullshit is just the crystallization of moral cowardice in the face wrongdoing.

“My boss (cinc) on Twitter is publicly threatening everyone who is testifying”

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:46:51am

re: #133 lawhawk

Shimon Prokupecz

@ShimonPro

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Be interesting to see who comes on board as their legal counsel.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:47:17am

My meeting ended…are we done for the day? There are more folks testifying today, right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:48:36am
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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:49:21am

re: #306 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

“My boss (cinc) on Twitter is publicly threatening everyone who is testifying”

This bit of it kind of reminds me of the Sandusky/Paterno/Penn St story. If we have learned anything in the time since, it’s not enough to just say “well, I told my boss, that’s all I had to do.” If your boss isn’t going to do the right thing, go to their boss, and all then all the way up if you have to… and if that doesn’t work, there’s the press (or if you’re in government, the Congress)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:49:29am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:50:05am
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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:50:59am
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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:51:36am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

The USMCA… you mean the modest revisions to NAFTA that Trump tried to brag about being some major breakthrough?

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:53:00am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

“We already passed NAFTA. Just because you want to change the name, like you do for post offices, doesn’t mean you’re doing anything really productive.”

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gocart mozart  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:54:08am

Should I be surprised that murder is not a violation of Twitter terms of service?

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 10:57:05am

This may be old news. I didn’t know about it

It’s hard to turn on cable news or scroll through Twitter these days without catching the name “Giuliani.” Rudy Giuliani, President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, is a central character in the House’s impeachment inquiry. Meanwhile, Rudy’s third wife, Judith Giuliani, has commanded her own headlines as she’s aired details of the couple’s contentious, ongoing divorce proceedings. Scarcely mentioned, however, is Andrew Giuliani—the former New York mayor’s 31-year-old son—who works in the White House

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:01:00am

re: #317 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

I saw something about that the other day. My first thought was, whoa, Rudy’s kid is an actual adult (I just remember him from a lot of the post-9/11 stuff being a pre-teen on stage). My second thought was, upon reading that the CoS didn’t want to give him and job and Trump overruled him, “of fucking course.”

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:01:15am

re: #317 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

Ah, Andrew… who I remember when he was scampering around on the stage at Rudy’s inauguration as mayor and making faces….

And then later when he was involved in scandal at Duke where he was ultimately cut from the golf team and he sued (and then dropped the case).

Now, he’s in Trumpworld doing who knows what.

It’s a fitting trajectory.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:01:48am

Glad there’s a break in the action. Off to vote in the city council runoff—voting for the mildly annoying incumbent (who, at one time was Dem county chair, but now will not admit to being a Dem if she wants any chance of winning) over the little twit who destroyed the work my city committee was trying to do and is so far up the mayor’s ass, he can see her tonsils.

South Carolina- too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum.

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BigPapa  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:01:50am

LC Vindman is unflappable.

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:04:49am

re: #320 BeachDem

Glad there’s a break in the action. Off to vote in the city council runoff—voting for the mildly annoying incumbent (who, at one time was Dem county chair, but now will not admit to being a Dem if she wants any chance of winning) over the little twit who destroyed the work my city committee was trying to do and is so far up the mayor’s ass, he can see her tonsils.

South Carolina- too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum.

I question that bit about being too large for an insane asylum. There’s about 327m people in the US. If there’s a crazification factor of 27%, that’s about 88m people. I think we could fit them all in South Carolina. It’d be tight (about 2750 people per sq mile), but it might just work.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:07:53am
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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:07:55am

re: #322 KGxvi

Naw, pick a square state - easier for the borders.

Whisk them all off to…. .COLORADO…. /George Carlin.

Youtube Video

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KGxvi  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:08:59am

re: #324 lawhawk

Naw, pick a square state - easier for the borders.

Whisk them all off to…. .COLORADO…. /George Carlin.

Good skiing in Colorado, and they’d have access to the AF Academy. Maybe Wyoming? Or one of the Dakotas?

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:11:24am

re: #318 KGxvi

I saw something about that the other day. My first thought was, whoa, Rudy’s kid is an actual adult (I just remember him from a lot of the post-9/11 stuff being a pre-teen on stage). My second thought was, upon reading that the CoS didn’t want to give him and job and Trump overruled him, “of fucking course.”

but not nepotism of course
he was the absolutely best person in the entire country for this critical job

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:11:30am

re: #325 KGxvi

Kansas will do.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:13:51am

re: #323 Charles Johnson

resolving cognitive dissonance can be painful

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:15:30am

re: #286 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Mike, you sold your soul like all the other rethugs. Deal with it.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:15:57am
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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:18:24am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:19:07am

re: #330 jaunte

To Don Jr, “chain of command” means “doing whatever my daddy tells you to do and not talking about to anyone”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:20:12am

re: #331 lawhawk

Well, this is newsy:

Assange rape case dropped by Swedish prosecutors.

Well hey, now he can come testify on Trump’s behalf!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:20:17am

re: #330 jaunte

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The Prince of Wails is having a sads!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:20:47am
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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:20:49am

re: #322 KGxvi

I question that bit about being too large for an insane asylum. There’s about 327m people in the US. If there’s a crazification factor of 27%, that’s about 88m people. I think we could fit them all in South Carolina. It’d be tight (about 2750 people per sq mile), but it might just work.

I’ll bring it up at the next convention.

And what are the fucking odds that, while I was talking to a friend/poll worker after voting, the little twit himself shows up at my precinct. Turnout really low—hope it helps the incumbent.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:20:50am

re: #325 KGxvi

Good skiing in Colorado, and they’d have access to the AF Academy. Maybe Wyoming? Or one of the Dakotas?

nah, give them an ugly state the rest of us don’t want. Oklahoma?

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:21:52am

re: #325 KGxvi

Good skiing in Colorado, and they’d have access to the AF Academy. Maybe Wyoming? Or one of the Dakotas?

Combine the Dakotas—that solves more than one problem.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:22:57am

Simple question: Armed forces members take an oath to defend the CONSTITUTION and NOT the President, right?

340
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:23:12am

re: #338 BeachDem

Combine the Dakotas—that solves more than one problem.

Except that someone will obviously sioux about the combination followed by the forced resettlement into the area.
//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:24:12am

re: #325 KGxvi

Good skiing in Colorado, and they’d have access to the AF Academy. Maybe Wyoming? Or one of the Dakotas?

Montana…it has meth…

342
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:24:20am

re: #339 Eclectic Cyborg

Simple question: Armed forces members take an oath to defend the CONSTITUTION and NOT the President, right?

343
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:24:47am

re: #339 Eclectic Cyborg

Simple question: Armed forces members take an oath to defend the CONSTITUTION and NOT the President, right?

and are compelled only to obey all LAWFUL orders

344
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:24:58am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

Montana…it has meth…

What was the point of that…was it to show that anyone could be a meth addict? Or…??

345
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:25:06am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

Montana…it has meth…

Aren’t the Dakotas (or at least one of them) already on meth by their own admittance?

;)

346
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:26:21am

re: #339 Eclectic Cyborg

Simple question: Armed forces members take an oath to defend the CONSTITUTION and NOT the President, right?

Right.

347
sagehen  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:27:47am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

Montana…it has meth…

They can’t have Montana.

Glacier National Park, part of Yellowstone, Whitefish…

348
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:28:24am

re: #345 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Aren’t the Dakotas (or at least one of them) already on meth by their own admittance?

;)

Montana has just unveiled its new meth campaign

349
KGxvi  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:30:42am

re: #338 BeachDem

Combine the Dakotas—that solves more than one problem.

I’m still very confused as to why we had to have two Dakotas

350
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:31:10am

moron is just spewing on twitter…at least two dozen tweets/retweets since Schiff adjourned

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:33:41am

re: #349 KGxvi

I’m still very confused as to why we had to have two Dakotas

Meth Dakota and Oxy Dakota

352
Jebediah, RBG  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:34:16am

re: #80 steve_davis

Cool!
I almost bought a used Ric bass a million years ago. I thought it was the coolest thing I’d seen - nicely worn finish, checkerboard binding, switch tip replaced with either a die or a skull, can’t remember. Put down some money to put it on layaway, when I went back to pay off the rest I found out the shop guy forgot to mark it as sold or to put it in the back and it got sold to someone else, who had zero interest in giving it back. (Big surprise.)
So they sold me a MIJ Precision for about wholesale. All black, black hardware, rosewood fingerboard, and the neck was PERFECT. So of course it was stolen less than a year later.

353
KGxvi  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:36:29am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is just spewing on twitter…at least two dozen tweets/retweets since Schiff adjourned

He’s also appeared in public for the first time since the very routine and not at all unusual medical evaluation on Saturday. We can rule out a stroke.

354
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:37:16am

re: #349 KGxvi

I’m still very confused as to why we had to have two Dakotas

To get more GOP senators apparently.

From wikipedia page on South Dakota:
” …growing population and political concerns (admitting two states meant having four new senators for the Republican Party) caused Dakota Territory to be divided in half and President Benjamin Harrison signed proclamations formally admitting South Dakota and North Dakota to the union on November 2, 1889. Harrison had the papers shuffled to obscure which one was signed first and the order went unrecorded.”

355
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:38:30am

re: #349 KGxvi

I’m still very confused as to why we had to have two Dakotas

Interestingly enough, you can partially blame Republicans. From the Wikipedia entry on the Dakota Territory:

The territorial capital was Yankton from 1861 until 1883, when it was moved to Bismarck. The Dakota Territory was divided into the states of North Dakota and South Dakota on November 2, 1889. The admission of two states, as opposed to one, was done for a number of reasons. The two population centers in the territory were in the northeast and southeast corners of the territory, several hundred miles away from each other. On a national level, there was pressure from the Republican Party to admit two states to add to their political power in the Senate

356
dirkdigglerjr  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:40:02am

re: #345 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

But only North Dakota has Fargo North Decoder!

The Electric Company - Dig Deep by the Dump Before Dark

357
Dread Pirate  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:42:48am
358
KGxvi  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:43:22am

re: #354 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

This write up from Time Magazine covers a lot of the internal issues as well. This bit made me laugh:

Perhaps not coincidentally, there was also a bit of a personality difference between the two regions: the south thought the north was a bit disreputable, Porter says, “too much controlled by the wild folks, cattle ranchers, fur traders” and too frequently the site of conflict with the indigenous population.

359
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:44:45am

The GOP rank and file have turned into lemmings. Or perhaps a better analogy is rats following the Trump Pied Piper off into the wilderness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:45:20am

re: #356 dirkdigglerjr

But only North Dakota has Fargo North Decoder!

Is that a young, un-freckled Morgan Freeman?

361
lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:46:10am

re: #357 Dread Pirate

These fuckers think that they can bluster and bulkshit their way to avoiding impeachment by claiming that the Founders didn’t envision this scenario?

Bulkshit.

They spent a lot of time thinking about impeachment, and giving Congress the power to remove a sitting president who engages in criminal conduct - high crimes and misdemeanors and bribery.

The thing the Founders would never get past is that Trump has engaged in all kinds of misconduct that the Founders would consider treasonous, and they wouldn’t just seek impeachment and removal, but prosecution and execution for treason.

They took those things seriously.

362
dirkdigglerjr  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:46:38am

re: #360 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes it is. The other clip I found had Bill Cosby. Opted not to go with that one.

363
KGxvi  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:47:00am

The larger issue of Trump being in thrall to Putin is part of the reason for the natural born citizen clause. The Founders were concerned that someone who had loyalty to another country couldn’t properly serve American interests.

Granted, it’s a rather pre-modern view of loyalty - that it is something inherent in a person when they’re born rather than something earned over time - but at the time it probably made sense.

But the actions of Trump and Vindman today should serve as a reminder that this pre-modern view of loyalty is stupid.

364
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:48:00am

re: #362 dirkdigglerjr

Yes it is. The other clip I found had Bill Cosby. Opted not to go with that one.

Shame, because I have only the fondest memories of his comedy routines and acting as a kid…

365
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:51:36am

re: #353 KGxvi

He’s also appeared in public for the first time since the very routine and not at all unusual medical evaluation on Saturday. We can rule out a stroke.

I’m still thinking it was a panic attack

366
lawhawk  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:55:07am

Feel good moment….

Sesame Street celebrated their 50th anniversary, and music acts figured prominently during the past 50 years…. and this is one of the all time highlights:

Stevie Wonder - Superstition live on Sesame Street

There is so much funk there….

367
Jay C  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:56:05am

re: #357 Dread Pirate

[Embedded content]

So this is a new Republican talking point? “It’s all political so we should all just forget Trump’s crimes and malfeasances?”

The Founding Fathers wrote the parameters of the impeachment process right into the Constitution: and left them fairly openly-defined. AND: delegated the impeachment power to the Legislative Branch. Impeachments are always “political” in some way: but that doesn’t mean they should be lightly dismissed solely on those grounds.

And if the whole thing is just because “Dems don’t like President Trump” - why are they bothering to conduct these hearings/examine these witnesses with such punctilious regard for legal process (GOP squawking notwithstanding)?

Moron.

368
dirkdigglerjr  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:56:27am

re: #364 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My ex-wife’s fundamentalist relatives thought Bill Cosby was so wonderful because he was funny without being profane. The difference between words and utterly horrific deeds.

Mrsddjr doesn’t have any family alive, though her father was a staunch Democrat who was awarded the Bronze Star for his service at Guadalcanal.

369
sagehen  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:56:39am

re: #357 Dread Pirate

he founders had defeated a monarch and established a republic; their greatest fear was a restoration of the monarchy. Impeachment was their solution.

No.

Their greatest fear was foreign interference in our democracy.

370
KGxvi  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:58:43am

re: #361 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

These fuckers think that they can bluster and bulkshit their way to avoiding impeachment by claiming that the Founders didn’t envision this scenario?

Bulkshit.

They spent a lot of time thinking about impeachment, and giving Congress the power to remove a sitting president who engages in criminal conduct - high crimes and misdemeanors and bribery.

The thing the Founders would never get past is that Trump has engaged in all kinds of misconduct that the Founders would consider treasonous, and they wouldn’t just seek impeachment and removal, but prosecution and execution for treason.

They took those things seriously.

One of the great flaws of American history is that Congress has been too slow to use impeachment. Jackson should have been impeached for the Trail of Tears, Grant probably should have been impeached for rampant corruption, Harrison for the Teapot Dome Scandal, Truman regarding Youngstown Steel and declaring an emergency, Nixon for Watergate, possibly Ford for the Nixon pardons, Reagan for Iran Contra, Clinton’s for perjury/lying under oath, GWB for Iraq lies. There’s probably more examples.

The problem is from the beginning Congress has bristled at executive overreach while also being ok with it. In part because a stronger executive relieves Congress of having to make tough decisions.

371
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2019 • 11:58:48am

re: #368 dirkdigglerjr

My ex-wife’s fundamentalist relatives thought Bill Cosby was so wonderful because he was funny without being profane. The difference between words and utterly horrific deeds.

Especially his stories about childhood, To Russel My Brother and The Giant Chicken Heart, had me in tears

372
sagehen  Nov 19, 2019 • 12:01:46pm

re: #370 KGxvi

One of the great flaws of American history is that Congress has been too slow to use impeachment. Jackson should have been impeached for the Trail of Tears, Grant probably should have been impeached for rampant corruption, Harrison for the Teapot Dome Scandal, Truman regarding Youngstown Steel and declaring an emergency, Nixon for Watergate, possibly Ford for the Nixon pardons, Reagan for Iran Contra, Clinton’s for perjury/lying under oath, GWB for Iraq lies. There’s probably more examples.

The problem is from the beginning Congress has bristled at executive overreach while also being ok with it. In part because a stronger executive relieves Congress of having to make tough decisions.

“Rampant corruption” in the Grant Administration is a slander. It’s a lie, fomented by unreconstructed Confederates who couldn’t stand that he sent the US Army to fuck up the Klan.

373
DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 12:04:45pm

re: #366 lawhawk

Feel good moment….

Sesame Street celebrated their 50th anniversary, and music acts figured prominently during the past 50 years…. and this is one of the all time highlights:

[Embedded content]

Video

There is so much funk there….

sounds like eddie murphy

374
DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 19, 2019 • 12:11:05pm

re: #367 Jay C

So this is a new Republican talking point? “It’s all political so we should all just forget Trump’s crimes and malfeasances?”

The Founding Fathers wrote the parameters of the impeachment process right into the Constitution: and left them fairly openly-defined. AND: delegated the impeachment power to the Legislative Branch. Impeachments are always “political” in some way: but that doesn’t mean they should be lightly dismissed solely on those grounds.

And if the whole thing is just because “Dems don’t like President Trump” - why are they bothering to conduct these hearings/examine these witnesses with such punctilious regard for legal process (GOP squawking notwithstanding)?

Moron.

lets remember what they’re doing

they are building a narrative that’s not totally and completely transparent and moronic which will allow them to (plausibly) vote not guilty so when they are next up for re-election they wont get steamrolled

they are not participating in the process as zealous representing the president’s interests / everyone deserves a defense, etc

they are throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks best (will hurt them least) and will eventually use that as the justification for their vote

they’d not appear at all if that tactic would work better

their calculus is entirely political and as far removed from the facts, evidence and process as could possibly be

there is nothing more to this

thats why im not arguing explaining, point out, correcting, etc, most any of this. it’s a pointless exercise that will fall either on deaf ears or on those who already traffic only in facts

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vgranucci  Nov 19, 2019 • 8:01:11pm

re: #292 The Pie Overlord!

Mazel tov!


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