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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:13:40am

“Thump, thump” goes the wheels on the bus…

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:13:54am

re: #1 Targetpractice

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:15:55am

Jeebus, these dilettantes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:16:24am

re: #1 Targetpractice

“Thump, thump” goes the wheels on the bus…

The buck never stops here.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:17:08am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:18:11am

Seems to me that Rudy, Lev, Igor, and their cronies were the actual deep state. The actual shadow government. They’re not elected, appointed, nor can they pass a security clearance making our foreign policy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:18:44am

So what is the chance that Sondland suprises the Democrats and turns out to be a Trump stooge?

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:18:51am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:19:26am

And let’s check in with the Pulpit Pimps!

Longtime Christian evangelist Jim Bakker claimed Democrats will “kill” President Donald Trump if impeachment can’t remove him from office.

newsweek.com

The far right-wing pastor, 79, who gained notoriety for hosting The PTL Club alongside his first wife in the 1970s-80s, predicted Monday that Trump’s Democratic Party critics will attempt to assassinate him if they can’t oust him politically. Speaking on his Branson, Missouri-based The Jim Bakker Show, the pro-Trump preacher said America is being “ripped apart” by people who hate the president.

newsweek.com

Oh Jimbo going just a tad over the top, isn’t he?????

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:20:31am

re: #9 Joe Bacon 🌹

And let’s check in with the Pulpit Pimps!

Longtime Christian evangelist Jim Bakker claimed Democrats will “kill” President Donald Trump if impeachment can’t remove him from office.

newsweek.com

The far right-wing pastor, 79, who gained notoriety for hosting The PTL Club alongside his first wife in the 1970s-80s, predicted Monday that Trump’s Democratic Party critics will attempt to assassinate him if they can’t oust him politically. Speaking on his Branson, Missouri-based The Jim Bakker Show, the pro-Trump preacher said America is being “ripped apart” by people who hate the president.

newsweek.com

Oh Jimbo going just a tad over the top, isn’t he?????

He needs serious psychiatric help like most Evangelical leaders.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:20:32am

All of Trumpworld is a scam, grift, con, and criminal conspiracy to protect Trump at all costs and to use govt to enrich Trump and his cronies and to attack his political enemies.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:20:35am

Good Morning Charles. History is a hell of a drug. Thanks for the thread so early.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:20:47am

Aaand here we go. Something to be said for jet lag.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:21:55am

re: #1 Targetpractice

“Thump, thump” goes the wheels on the bus…

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The wheel and on the bus go THUMP THUMP OOF!!! THUMP THUMP OOF!! THUMP THUMP OOF!

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:22:26am

re: #1 Targetpractice

“Thump, thump” goes the wheels on the bus…

Some people say 2 + 2 = 5, and in a way that’s true….

/

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:23:04am

re: #14 Scottish Dragon

Looks like everyone in Trumpworld is going to be looking up at the bottom of the bus. Everyone. No one has clean hands in Trumpworld.

They’re all implicated directly.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:23:42am

re: #8 Targetpractice

“All this Sondland news is really bad news for Democrats and Nancy and Schiff who hate the president….”

/

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:23:52am

Nunes is such an incredible hack.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:23:52am

I really hope RICO is used against the Trump Organization. He’s been a criminal for a long time.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:24:44am

re: #18 jaunte

Nunes is such an incredible hack.

Same opening remarks as yesterday, and last week.

Maybe Trump will give him a cookie.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:25:01am

Yes. And I think the House should impeach all these fuckers for obstruction, interfering in ongoing investigations, witness tampering, and criminal conspiracy. That’s the baseline charge sheet for every last one in Trumpworld involved in this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:25:30am

re: #1 Targetpractice

This is just straight up bullshit from Fox’s so-called ‘news division’
Fox News correspondent John Roberts: “President Trump says he doesn’t really know Sondland, and in a way that’s true.”

“I just took a million-dollar donation from him and appointed him to a key ambassadorship, that doesn’t mean I know him from Adam!”

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:25:30am

Wingnut world for the past month:

There was no quid pro quo all these witnesses suck and just hate the president.

OK yeah there was a quid pro quo but so what everybody does it this is all just politics.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:25:38am
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:25:40am

He’s gonna bring up the nude photos again, isn’t he?

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:26:29am

I found something nice to say about Nunes and the Repugs! The interludes when they talk are like TV commercials — a time out to visit the facilities or get snacks. And a break from paying attention.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:26:35am

Can’t wait to hear how Sondland is a Never Trumper who gave me very bad advice and is a terrible person, //

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:26:57am

re: #22 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I just took a million-dollar donation from him and appointed him to a key ambassadorship, that doesn’t mean I know him from Adam!”

“He might even be a Demoncrat who donated just to get appointed ambassador to hurt the POTUS.”

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:27:08am

The GOP will go down with the Trumptanic. No one seems to care to do anything differently. They’re that corrupt and complicit/compromised.

I’ve been using that language since before day one, and this is laying it all bare for all to see.

The GOP has abandoned the rule of law and their oaths of office to enable Trump and his corrupt practices including soliciting help from foreign powers to win elections.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:28:12am

re: #29 lawhawk

The GOP will go down with the Trumptanic. No one seems to care to do anything differently. They’re that corrupt and complicit/compromised.

I’ve been using that language since before day one, and this is laying it all bare for all to see.

The GOP has abandoned the rule of law and their oaths of office to enable Trump and his corrupt practices including soliciting help from foreign powers to win elections.

It was also a Republican that paid for the Steele Dossier. Before he became their base’s sweetheart, a lot of the Republicans especially Lindsay Graham were critical of Trump too. Their support of Trump is fake as hell.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:28:24am

re: #29 lawhawk

Devin Nunes wants people to believe Robert Mueller’s investigation was started by Democrats. It was NOT.

Yes, although even if it had been, that would not have made it illegitimate.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:29:24am

re: #9 Joe Bacon 🌹

And let’s check in with the Pulpit Pimps!

Longtime Christian evangelist Jim Bakker claimed Democrats will “kill” President Donald Trump if impeachment can’t remove him from office.

newsweek.com

The far right-wing pastor, 79, who gained notoriety for hosting The PTL Club alongside his first wife in the 1970s-80s, predicted Monday that Trump’s Democratic Party critics will attempt to assassinate him if they can’t oust him politically. Speaking on his Branson, Missouri-based The Jim Bakker Show, the pro-Trump preacher said America is being “ripped apart” by people who hate the president.

newsweek.com

Oh Jimbo going just a tad over the top, isn’t he?????

They will become increasingly unhinged and hysterical as public support for removing Trump continues to grow.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:29:26am

Nunes tells Sondland that he’ll be “smeared.” Well, at least Devin is giving a heads-up about the Repub strategy for today.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:30:06am

re: #31 Sir John Barron

Yes, although even if it had been, that would not have made it illegitimate.

Absolutely. And also the reason why the Obama administration found the Trump team is that they were investigating the Russians.

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cat-tikvah  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:30:34am

re: #26 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

My husband took the opportunity to go take his morning meds and take a bathroom break.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:30:38am

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

They will become increasingly unhinged and hysterical as public support for removing Trump continues to grow.

I don’t want Trump dead. I want him to spend the rest of his life with his family in prison. (I only wish I had come up with that)

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:30:48am

re: #33 Targetpractice

Nunes tells Sondland that he’ll be “smeared.” Well, at least Devin is giving a heads-up about the Repub strategy for today.

Faux News: Actually it’s totally OK for DrumPf and the GOP to smear Sondland and everyone else who opposes our MAGA POTUS. Smearing people is really good values.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:31:59am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:32:02am

re: #33 Targetpractice

Nunes tells Sondland that he’ll be “smeared.” Well, at least Devin is giving a heads-up about the Repub strategy for today.

It’s as if the Nixon Plumbers set up a Facebook page and posted regularly about their burglaries.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:32:08am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:33:35am

re: #40 Targetpractice

“I’m sorry to say your going to be smeared by the crooked terrible democrats who hate you and the president and what the holy hell are you saying your rat fink sneaky basterd who hates the president well get you!”

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:34:22am

Jre: #30 HappyWarrior

It was also a Republican that paid for the Steele Dossier. Before he became their base’s sweetheart, a lot of the Republicans especially Lindsay Graham were critical of Trump too. Their support of Trump is fake as hell.

Yeah, well, that was then, this is now.
Yes, a lot of GOPers were critical of Trump. But once they realized that, for whatever perverse reasons, only King Orangeanus could command a large personality-cult bloc of their voting base, they changed their tune pretty quick….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:34:49am

re: #42 Jay C

J

Yeah, well, that was then, this is now.
Yes, a lot of GOPers were critical of Trump. But once they realized that, for whatever perverse reasons, only King Orangeanus could command a large personality-cult bloc of their voting base, they changed their tune pretty quick….

It’s scary as shit.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:34:52am

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

Nunes: But you have to admit you’ve seen how we’ve smeared the other witnesses including those in uniform

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:35:14am

Democrats: Sondland is here to testify as to his direct knowledge of Trumpworld misconduct from Trump on down.

Nunes: Sondland will be smeared by Democrats for telling everyone this laundry list of crimes they allege Trump did *and Nunes doesn’t seem to get that Sondland’s opening statement was known and that he’s implicating Trumpworld in all the crimes Nunes just laid out*.

It’s as though the GOP didn’t do their homework, didn’t care, and will now claim that their research was stuck on a secret server by accident.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:36:29am

re: #45 lawhawk

Congressional hearings, when public, are not really about investigating but about making clips for running on mass media and campaign outlets.

Nunes is just recording snippets that will be circulated by his people, and Fox.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:36:45am

re: #45 lawhawk

Democrats: Sondland is here to testify as to his direct knowledge of Trumpworld misconduct from Trump on down.

Nunes: Sondland will be smeared by Democrats for telling everyone this laundry list of crimes they allege Trump did *and Nunes doesn’t seem to get that Sondland’s opening statement was known and that he’s implicating Trumpworld in all the crimes Nunes just laid out*.

It’s as though the GOP didn’t do their homework, didn’t care, and will now claim that their research was stuck on a secret server by accident.

Wednesdays during Infrastructure Week are always the least eventful.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:36:59am
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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:37:46am

Elections have consequences. All elections matter. And only thing that will stop the GOP is defeating them in election after election from now until the end of time. The GOP has done incalculable damage with Trumpworld and the reshaping of the judiciary with right wing extremists in lifetime appointments.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:38:47am

Dayum.

Blasting the State Dept.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:39:09am
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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:39:23am

Sondland opener: hey, really, I’m a good guy!

All those things I said earlier? Just because I didn’t have my notes! Nothing to do with perjury, really!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:40:10am

re: #9 Joe Bacon 🌹

And let’s check in with the Pulpit Pimps!

Longtime Christian evangelist Jim Bakker claimed Democrats will “kill” President Donald Trump if impeachment can’t remove him from office.

newsweek.com

The far right-wing pastor, 79, who gained notoriety for hosting The PTL Club alongside his first wife in the 1970s-80s, predicted Monday that Trump’s Democratic Party critics will attempt to assassinate him if they can’t oust him politically. Speaking on his Branson, Missouri-based The Jim Bakker Show, the pro-Trump preacher said America is being “ripped apart” by people who hate the president.

newsweek.com

Oh Jimbo going just a tad over the top, isn’t he?????

He’s sowing the fertile ground he can then work if Trump suddenly has the “big one” and keels over.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:40:34am

Sondland is accusing Pompeo and State of a coverup by refusing to allow access to papers that are not classified and should be available. It’s part of Trumpworld’s ongoing stonewalling of the investigation.

This is directly implicating Trumpworld in obstruction and interference in federal investigations.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:40:34am
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:40:49am

Here comes that bus.

‘We followed the president’s orders.’

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:40:56am

did he just say that?

did you hear that!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:40:59am

re: #53 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

He’s sowing the fertile ground he can then work if Trump suddenly has the “big one” and keels over.

I have no doubt that if Trump were to die tomorrow, they would claim that Pelosi, Schiff, and the “Deep State” had him murdered because you know we’re just eager for President Pence.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:42:05am

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Dayum.

Blasting the State Dept.

Least transparent admin ever. Taxes, grades, recent health event records, and official records of policy and circumstance doing the business of the nation.

Is any amount of wrongdoing too much for the GOP Senate?

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:42:11am
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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:42:40am
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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:43:22am
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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:43:48am

re: #52 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Sondland opener: hey, really, I’m a good guy! I want to stay out of prison.

All those things I said earlier? Just because I didn’t have my notes! Nothing to do with perjury, really!

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:44:28am

Ya know, when I said on Monday that I expected Sondland’s testimony to be the biggest show this week, I genuinely did not expect him to sing like a canary.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:45:20am

re: #63 Belafon

He’s making the (im)plausible argument that he couldn’t be truthful because he wasn’t able to view the papers to refresh his recollection and state truthfully what happened because Pompeo and Trump were obstructing their release to the House investigation.

It’s an out, but one that directly implicates Pompeo and Trump in multiple federal felonies.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:45:22am

re: #56 makeitstop

Here comes that bus.

‘We followed the president’s orders.’

HOW MUCH IS SCHIFF AND NANCY PAYING YOUR FOR YOUR TESTIMONY AND BETRAYAL HERE TODAY!!!

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:45:34am

re: #64 Targetpractice

Ya know, when I said on Monday that I expected Sondland’s testimony to be the biggest show this week, I genuinely did not expect him to sing like a canary.

To be the biggest show, he would have to outdo Vindeman.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:46:24am
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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:46:38am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:47:39am

re: #68 Targetpractice

Not illegal! Not a crime! Checkmate libtard!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:48:07am

re: #69 lawhawk

Mine fled Europe too. My ancestors would be disgusted by a guy like Trump.

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Ming5000  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:48:34am

I feel Sondland hired good lawyers, and he is listening to them.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:48:43am

re: #15 Sir John Barron

Some people say 2 + 2 = 5, and in a way that’s true….

/

It is a Radiohead song.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:48:49am
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:49:02am

re: #66 Sir John Barron

HOW MUCH IS SCHIFF AND NANCY PAYING YOUR FOR YOUR TESTIMONY AND BETRAYAL HERE TODAY!!!

But seriously - where the hell do Nunes and Jordan go from here?

I cannot wait to see these clowns try to address these charges, it’s gonna be hilarious.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:49:26am

re: #72 Ming5000

I feel Sondland hired good lawyers, and he is listening to them.

Better than buying the Ambassadorship to the EU which he was not qualified for that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:49:58am

re: #75 makeitstop

But seriously - where the hell do Nunes and Jordan go from here?

I cannot wait to see these clowns try to address these charges, it’s gonna be hilarious.

Their narrative I think is going to be that the President can do whatever he wants.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:50:22am

re: #59 Rightwingconspirator

Least transparent admin ever. Taxes, grades, recent health event records, and official records of policy and circumstance doing the business of the nation.

Is any amount of wrongdoing too much for the GOP Senate?

No.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:50:23am

re: #72 Ming5000

I feel Sondland hired good lawyers, and he is listening to them.

Yep

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:50:25am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:51:28am

re: #64 Targetpractice

Ya know, when I said on Monday that I expected Sondland’s testimony to be the biggest show this week, I genuinely did not expect him to sing like a canary.

He’s singing like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir!

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:53:34am

“they knew what we were doing and why”

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Stanley Sea  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:54:13am

Yep, Sondland has good lawyers

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:55:06am

And *bam!*, there’s Bolton hit by the bus’ rear view mirror.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:55:44am

John Cole has the right picture: Shorter Gordon Sondland

Go see the picture. I would copy it over, but I’m at work.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:57:59am

He’s just shoveling them under the bus wholesale.

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Ming5000  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:58:03am

re: #85 Belafon

LOL

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:58:52am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 6:59:13am

I keep on saying this but Trump cannot win when he’s not controlling the narrative. And he hasn’t been able to do it since November 2016. He has few political victories as President and he has no idea how to respond to adversity.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:00:10am

re: #75 makeitstop

But seriously - where the hell do Nunes and Jordan go from here?

I cannot wait to see these clowns try to address these charges, it’s gonna be hilarious.

Nunes keeps to his opening statement and immediately tries to smear Sondland.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:00:18am

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Their narrative I think is going to be that the President can do whatever he wants.

Yeah that’s really been it from the start. They’ve been using both arguments simultaneously:

1. POTUS didn’t do the bad thing you said. This is just an inquisition and illegal coup witch hunt.

2. OK yeah he did the thing but it wasn’t bad or wrong or illegal this is just an inquisition witch hunt.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:00:56am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:01:09am

re: #91 Sir John Barron

Yeah that’s really been it from the start. They’ve been using both arguments simultaneously:

1. POTUS didn’t do the bad thing you said. This is just an inquisition and illegal coup witch hunt.

2. OK yeah he did the thing but it wasn’t bad or wrong or illegal this is just an inquisition witch hunt.

Yeah and it’s not working. The only people who believe are the people who would get fed dog food by Trump and call it the best surf and turf they’ve ever had.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:01:35am

re: #90 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Nunes keeps to his opening statement and immediately tries to smear Sondland.

wont work

sondland has got ahold of himself and his narrative

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:04:17am

This is incredible. This is history.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:05:23am
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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:06:00am

Not enough pizzazz for Chuck Todd.

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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:06:24am
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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:06:34am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:06:46am

re: #97 Amory Blaine

Not enough pizzazz for Chuck Todd.

He’ll get on it as soon as Gordon Sondland reveals his true identity as Hillary Clinton.

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:07:16am

re: #89 HappyWarrior

I keep on saying this but Trump cannot win when he’s not controlling the narrative. And he hasn’t been able to do it since November 2016. He has few political victories as President and he has no idea how to respond to adversity.

He’s done 2 things that he thinks are his victories, but…

The judges? That’s entirely McConnell’s doing. and
Tax cuts? Entirely Paul Ryan.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:07:28am

since the beginning they were always so smug because they thought they never be caught or anything would ever be uncovered. about anything.

they stonewallled: subpoenas, testimony and docs

sondland is applying the crowbar

saying all the evidence is there hidden behind stonewall

since it was a perfect call and no one did anything wrong, it’s gonna be harder and harder to claim no one needs to testify or see any of the written record. conversly, it’ll be one big article of the impeachment

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:07:54am

re: #101 sagehen

He’s done 2 things that he thinks are his victories, but…

The judges? That’s entirely McConnell’s doing. and
Tax cuts? Entirely Paul Ryan.

100% correct. He’s a failure.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:08:55am

I can’t imagine Bolton is feeling too good today about withholding his testimony until the courts rule.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:09:16am
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:09:22am
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:09:50am

What was that bout Bolton requesting Rudy’s contact info? Guess we’ll find out once questioning starts…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:10:10am

re: #105 jaunte

And I hope it ruins their party’s chances electorally and begins the death of the GOP as a political party.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:11:21am

Anyone monitoring freep or the like?

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:13:06am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:14:15am

re: #65 lawhawk

He’s making the (im)plausible argument that he couldn’t be truthful because he wasn’t able to view the papers to refresh his recollection and state truthfully what happened because Pompeo and Trump were obstructing their release to the House investigation.

It’s an out, but one that directly implicates Pompeo and Trump in multiple federal felonies.

May well be enough to keep out of perjury charges tho.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:14:17am

re: #110 Targetpractice

Sigh Wisconsin. You had the chance to have Russ Feingold twice over this guy. Twice.

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Ming5000  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:14:44am

I wonder if Nunes is going to ask for a recess after Sondland’s opening

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:14:59am

re: #110 Targetpractice

And BOOM! goes the dynamite.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:15:17am

my take

sondland’s first stance when he first testified was based on the idea that everything behind the stone wall would stay there

then it turned out that the testimony of the others was enough to damage him personally

then he decided “nope, im not gonna be holding the bag for this bunch”

so today he’s laying out everything that they’re hiding and why no one else is testifying

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:15:34am

damn!

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:15:57am

Has the rage tweeting from the POTUS who’s too busy working to watch the hearings started yet?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:18:24am

This was never ever about corruption to Trump. It was about hurting a potential rival. That’s all this was ever about. He was willing to screw over Ukraine to get it. Trump is easily the worst President in our history also arguably one of the worst people in American history to have any sort of power.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:18:34am

re: #110 Targetpractice

I hope they implicate every one of them that went to Russia last July 4th.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:18:58am

I don’t usually eat popcorn with breakfast but I’m making a special exception today.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:18:59am

With as busy as the EU Ambassador was with all things Ukraine, how did he have time to oversee the million dollar reno on his digs in Brussels?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:20:23am

re: #117 Sir John Barron

Has the rage tweeting from the POTUS who’s too busy working to watch the hearings started yet?

not yet. last tweet was:

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:20:27am

Elect Trump to Get Rid Of Trump Appointees!

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:20:45am

While Sondland’s given up his co-conspirators, he’s still trying to maintain his own innocence as to what he knew and when. I suspect that will be what the Repubs try to attack him up, that he’s trying to paint himself as an “innocent” victim of Rudy’s maleficence.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:21:36am
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Citizen K  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:21:40am

re: #101 sagehen

He’s done 2 things that he thinks are his victories, but…

The judges? That’s entirely McConnell’s doing. and
Tax cuts? Entirely Paul Ryan.

re: #103 HappyWarrior

100% correct. He’s a failure.

They might not be his achievements, but his presence in the office is what allowed McConnell and Paul Ryan to succeed in what they did. It’s not that Trump himself has anything to hang his hat on, but that he’s the rubber stamp for the rest of the GOP’s pathologies. That’s a significant part of why they’re so gung-ho for him. Without that magic R in the White House, they couldn’t get all their unicorns and more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:21:58am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:21:59am

re: #123 jaunte

Listen to Sondland and you’ll understand why America elected Donald Trump president to get rid of people like Sondland.

— Brent Bozell

You can’t make this stuff up. They really tweet things like this.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:22:32am

re: #118 HappyWarrior

This was never ever about corruption to Trump. It was about hurting a potential rival. That’s all this was ever about. He was willing to screw over Ukraine to get it. Trump is easily the worst President in our history also arguably one of the worst people in American history to have any sort of power.

that’s why ‘the president can do whatever he wants’ wont fly

…for personal gain

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:22:52am

re: #123 jaunte

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Elect Trump to Get Rid Of Trump Appointees!

that’s like electing Elvis to get all of the drugs off of the street.

//

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:22:57am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

not yet. last tweet was:

She was already Speaker of the House back when he was pretending to fire people on TV. Nancy will be remembered as one of the great statespeople of this disturbing era. Donald will be remembered as an ugly stain.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:23:19am

“You don’t dispute that part of Mr. Holmes recollection?”.
“No”

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:23:24am

re: #128 Sir John Barron

“These are not the corrupt appointees to a corrupt administration you’re looking for.”

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:23:38am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:23:44am

re: #123 jaunte

Listen to Sondland and you’ll understand why America elected Donald Trump president to get rid of people like Sondland.

— Brent Bozell

So the problem with what Sondland is saying is…what exactly?

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:24:10am

re: #124 Targetpractice

While Sondland’s given up his co-conspirators, he’s still trying to maintain his own innocence as to what he knew and when. I suspect that will be what the Repubs try to attack him up, that he’s trying to paint himself as an “innocent” victim of Rudy’s maleficence.

I wonder if Schiff will let Goldman (I think that was the counsel’s name from yesterday) ask additional questions?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:24:25am

re: #134 Targetpractice

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:25:15am

re: #123 jaunte

Elect Trump to Get Rid Of Trump Appointees!

“If we just let Trump hire and fire enough people, only the good ones will be left.”

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plansbandc  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:25:16am

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why you wanna ruin my one good eye?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:25:21am

re: #123 jaunte

Elect Trump to Get Rid Of Trump Appointees!

Yeah I agree Brent that Sondland shouldn’t have been Ambassador to the EU. However, the people who should have been considered for that job are people who you screech are deep staters. Face it, Brent, you want people who pledge absolute loyalty to Trump to be in our government. That’s what you want. Because you’re a fascist son of a bitch just like your Uncle Bill Buckley was. A man who hates representative democracy and everything that comes with it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:25:36am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:25:37am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

He’ll get on it as soon as Gordon Sondland reveals his true identity as Hillary Clinton.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Chuck U has Alex Jones come on and allege Sondland is an agent of the Bilderbergers!

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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:26:25am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:26:47am

re: #143 Amory Blaine

There’s always a tweet….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:26:50am

re: #135 Sir John Barron

So the problem with what Sondland is saying is…what exactly?

That he had a problem with what Trump did. Bozell has basically acknowledged that he thinks our civil servants should be subservient to the will of the President if it’s a President he agrees with. Meanwhile if it’s Obama and we saw him in the Obama years, it’s to make out those same public servants out to be evil for executing the day to day decisions that the executive branch makes.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:27:00am

i called the president directly

i have no idea who sondland is

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:27:02am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:27:37am

re: #123 jaunte

Elect Trump to Get Rid Of Trump Appointees!

What was it that Mooo Nunes said about Sondland about to be smeared?

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:27:51am
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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:27:57am

re: #92 Stanley Sea

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:28:38am
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jaunte  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:28:41am
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jaunte  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:29:17am

re: #151 Targetpractice

It’s comfortable to be wealthy.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:30:47am

lol, even the Trump cult PR machine know the jig is up

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:31:11am
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:31:42am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:32:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:33:01am
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jaunte  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:33:10am

Oops, weaseling time.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:33:27am
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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:34:38am

re: #152 jaunte

And while that is indeed disturbing, the hearings are also showing that there is a part of America that is willing to expose it. We just have to make sure that part of America gains power next year.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:34:42am
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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:35:36am

re: #154 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

lol, even the Trump cult PR machine know the jig is up

“It’ll be fascinating to see the cross examination here.”

We go live to monkeys flnging poop at each other.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:35:52am

re: #154 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:36:19am
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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:36:46am

re: #164 Ace-o-aces

Sondland: But your cow was.

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:37:13am
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steve_davis  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:37:15am

I want Goldman’s tie.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:37:31am

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Looks like he’s getting the Little Nicky Pineapple treatment!

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:37:35am

re: #163 Belafon

“It’ll be fascinating to see the cross examination here.”

We go live to monkeys flnging poop at each other.

It will be fascinating considering that the guy warning the Ambassador to watch out for being smeared will now be the main guy smearing him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:37:40am

You know your instructions, co-conspirators:

“BOOOOOO! LOCK HIM UP!”

President Donald Trump is coming to Austin on Wednesday. Here’s what to expect.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:37:41am

re: #165 lawhawk

Which really undercuts the idea he was concerned about corruption, he wanted to have the idea that it looked like he cared about corruption. Just like he likes ot present the idea that he cares about anything other than himself.

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Belafon  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:37:44am

re: #165 lawhawk

No, because if it had come out that nothing inappropriate had happened, then that would have been even worse for Trump.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:37:47am

Good.

Goldman is now up and we’ll be off to the races…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:38:32am
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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:40:22am

My god.

If we as a nation allow Trump and his cronies to remain in power after THIS, we have no excuse for anything anymore.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:40:53am

With that discussion of notes and memory-jogging, Goldman smeared Sondland.

All over the floor of the hearing room.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:41:34am

re: #173 Belafon

But he had to know that the investigation would be concluded long after the election was over, and the appearance that there was an “investigation” would be enough to cloud Biden’s run and shape the election to Trump’s benefit.

It’s the same way Comey announced that an investigation was looking at Clinton’s emails just days before the election all while the FBI was silent about ongoing investigations into Trump’s cronies for being undeclared foreign agents (hint: they were).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:41:52am
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:42:01am

Wildest Infrastructure Week since last week.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:42:47am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:43:47am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s certainly a longstanding trademark of the Old Boys Club (tm)

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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:44:11am

What airport lounge is Rudy watching this from?
And who is he dressed as?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:44:33am

Did the Marmalade Shitcannon fire Sondland yet?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:44:35am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey Franklin Graham, care to comment on these great values and awesome character being displayed?

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Ming5000  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:44:53am

GOP going with a new sign at today’s impeachment hearing.

“THIS is GOLD”, says GOP intern.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:45:09am

re: #183 Mescalero09

What airport lounge is Rudy watching this from?
And who is he dressed as?

Be on the look out for this woman.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:45:16am

finally - a distinction between ‘investigations’ and just announcing them

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:45:24am

No one ever said anything about actually carrying out the investigation - only that it would be announced publicly. - Sondland.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:45:24am

re: #185 Sir John Barron

Hey Franklin Graham, care to comment on these great values and awesome character being displayed?

Franky’s backsliding with the Crystal Meth right now….

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:45:46am

re: #186 Ming5000

Why can’t Republicans design anything well?

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:46:01am
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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:46:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:46:09am
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William Lewis  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:46:14am

Not that it will matter, but I sent this to Sen. Johnson under my name a moment ago:

How often do your handlers in Moscow give you orders? Only once a year during your 4th of July visit to our nations Enemies? Or do they give you further orders through the year?

Your Hatred of America and our constitution is was known from that trip in July. Now today we have proof of your involvement in the bribery scandal with Ukraine’s President.

The time has come for you to resign so that Wisconsin can have a senator that supports US not Trump and not the Russian Federation over the US Constitution.

Resign!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:46:32am

re: #184 Joe Bacon 🌹

upding for Marmalade Shitcannon

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jaunte  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:46:40am

Presumably an effort to save their president, and they make a sign that looks like it’s advertising a garage sale.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:46:42am

re: #193 KGxvi

I’m sure he’ll get a nice book deal out of it.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:46:44am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:47:00am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:47:22am

re: #200 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m sure that these weren’t the end times that Pompeo was looking for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:47:46am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:48:07am

re: #157 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:48:39am
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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:48:59am

This is fuckin’ brutal:

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Ming5000  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:49:45am

re: #192 lawhawk

For once, I am curious about what the GOP response to a witness will be.

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sagehen  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:49:46am

re: #161 Belafon

And while that is indeed disturbing, the hearings are also showing that there is a part of America that is willing to expose it. We just have to make sure that part of America gains power next year.

In 1974, I remember my Dad’s parents being absolutely awestruck that this was a country where a corrupt president could be removed without a single shot being fired.

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William Lewis  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:49:59am

re: #199 lawhawk

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Grammies? Oh, that’s the award for top selling records of the year, right?

/ (maybe 1/4)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:50:07am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

I’m sure that these weren’t the end times that Pompeo was looking for.

“”No one lights a lamp and hides it in a clay jar or puts it under a bed. Instead, they put it on a stand, so that those who come in can see the light. For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open. Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what they think they have will be taken from them.”

Luke 8:17 -18

Fun fact: This passage appears just a few paragraphs after the parable that teaches us we reap what we sow.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:50:09am

Amazing how many phone conversations Trump had with somebody he didn’t know.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:50:40am

re: #205 Targetpractice

This is fuckin’ brutal:

It was so young *cries*.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:51:24am

re: #210 BeachDem

Amazing how many phone conversations Trump had with somebody he didn’t know.

Wasn’t Sondland a fellow hotelier and a big fundraiser for him? Yeah he fucking knows him.

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cat-tikvah  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:51:33am

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe, according to Russian/English translation tool:
Лорди, я надеюсь, что есть записи
Lordi, ya nadeyus’, chto yest’ zapisi

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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:51:38am

What snappy Bible verse will Marco Rubio Tweet today?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:52:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:52:51am

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m guessing Sondland won’t be continuing as Trump’s ambassador to the EU.

No, he will be reassigned directly to Ukraine…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:53:01am

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah but you see that was before he testified against Trump.

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Ming5000  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:53:03am

Sondland is pleading the 5th without pleading the 5th

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:53:05am

re: #214 Mescalero09

What snappy Bible verse will Marco Rubio Tweet today?

He’ll probably try to own the Libs with the old “Plank in the Eye” scolding.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:53:28am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No, he will be reassigned directly to Ukraine…

Uh it doesn’t work that way.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:54:07am

re: #219 Eclectic Cyborg

He’ll probably try to own the Libs with the old “Plank in the Eye” scolding.

I would love to see an actual theological scholar show Rubio up for the empty suit he is as a man, senator, and theologian.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:54:52am

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

That was before he remembered that he didn’t actually remember Sondland.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:55:31am

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t Sondland a fellow hotelier and a big fundraiser for him? Yeah he fucking knows him.

he gave the inaugural $1,000,000.00

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:55:51am

Goldman’s just gotten Sondland into possibly perjuring himself re: testimony and conversations with Trump. Or perjury for Taylor and Morrison.

They’re all going to throw everyone else under the bus.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:56:11am

You know though? In a way, Putin got his goal achieved. However, we can still beat him by having a new President that will be transparent and also fight back against Putin’s attempts to reap division and chaos in our country.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:56:24am

re: #223 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

he gave the inaugural $1,000,000.00

That’s right.

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:56:38am

re: #214 Mescalero09

What snappy Bible verse will Marco Rubio Tweet today?

“Jesus wept” ?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:56:49am
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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:57:39am

Here’s another text exchange to refresh your recollection….

*ouch*

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:57:44am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:57:49am

re: #227 Jay C

“Jesus wept” ?

That’s what Marco’s wife says to him whenever he gets home. And yeah that’s a low blow but I am not going to show any respect to a man who acts obnoxiously pious yet is the first person as far as I know made a small penis joke on a presidential debate platform.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:58:06am

re: #214 Mescalero09

What snappy Bible verse will Marco Rubio Tweet today?

He’ll tweet something from Ayn Rand!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 7:59:18am

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’ll tweet something from Ayn Rand!

Nah. Marco is the kind of guy who tweets Bible verses while living his life and actual principles in accordance with Rand. He’s not the same kind of flake like Paul Ryan who claims to be a good Catholic boy while getting his philosophy from that kook.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:00:10am

Testifying that the money was hinged only on an announcement of an investigation is very damning info. Shows Trump didn’t care about corruption, only the appearance of anti corruption. Blows the only real defense the gop has.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:00:40am

If that text says you spoke to Trump, did you? If I did, I did.

Aid was contingent on announcement, but didn’t hear that directly from Trump.

By Sept 8, he was absolutely convinced.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:01:56am

re: #128 Sir John Barron

You can’t make this stuff up. They really tweet things like this.

Lets see how long it takes before Bozell backtracks.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:02:05am

re: #234 Amory Blaine

Testifying that the money was hinged only on an announcement of an investigation is very damning info. Shows Trump didn’t care about corruption, only the appearance of anti corruption. Blows the only real defense the gop has.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:02:58am

re: #236 Eric The Fruit Bat

Lets see how long it takes before Bozell backtracks.

He deleted the tweet. so.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:03:08am

5-10 break…so, that means 20 minutes, folks. Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:03:24am

Goldman’s time is up.
Recess for 5 minutes as Nunes needs time to regroup and come up with another bunch of lies and smears to protect Trumpworld.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:03:24am

Nunes calls for a break. LOL

They’re so fucked.

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steve_davis  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:03:55am

Mr Nunez looks like he thought he was shitting his own pants, but then realized he was actually shitting minority counsel’s pants.

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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:04:10am

Nunes needs a break to change his.underpants.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:04:20am

re: #241 makeitstop

Nunes calls for a break. LOL

They’re so fucked.

Is he waving a white towel? I guess that would be too much to ask.

Maybe team GOP needs time to make another blaring poster board thing distraction.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:04:45am

re: #241 makeitstop

Nunes calls for a break. LOL

They’re so fucked.

The Simpsons - Stop he’s already dead HD

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:05:00am

a break
oh good, cause i gotta pee

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Ming5000  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:05:03am

Schiff, “Let’s take a 5 or 10 minute break.”
Caster, “We’re fuuuuuuuu…”

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:05:04am

Trump is still fucked, but CBS pundits are claiming that Sondland didn’t seal the deal on Trump-Sondland discussion re: quid pro quo.

Circumstantial evidence is more than enough to convict someone for this.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:06:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:06:12am

re: #234 Amory Blaine

Testifying that the money was hinged only on an announcement of an investigation is very damning info. Shows Trump didn’t care about corruption, only the appearance of anti corruption. Blows the only real defense the gop has.

Trump was too ham-handed to even think to build some layers of deniability into this: to have Zelinsky declare a series of investigations into corruption in general, one of which would name the Bidens, for example.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:07:28am

re: #248 lawhawk

Trump is still fucked, but CBS pundits are claiming that Sondland didn’t seal the deal on Trump-Sondland discussion re: quid pro quo.

Circumstantial evidence is more than enough to convict someone for this.

If Sondland was the singular fact witness, then it would be convincing to say that he hadn’t nailed the WH to the wall.

But he’s not, he’s just the latest bombshell dropper in a series of them, with more still to come. The totality of the evidence so far would be enough to secure an indictment, if not a conviction, in virtually any jurisdiction you care to name in this country.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:07:39am

re: #248 lawhawk

Trump is still fucked, but CBS pundits are claiming that Sondland didn’t seal the deal on Trump-Sondland discussion re: quid pro quo.

Circumstantial evidence is more than enough to convict someone for this.

my summary is he’s pointing at all of them
over there - look over there!!!!
- all who wont / cant testify
- all the documents, emails, texts, call records, etc that the admin is hiding / holding back

they all know
they all knew
they’re hiding it all hoping it wont see the light of day

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:07:43am

re: #247 Ming5000

Schiff, “Let’s take a 5 or 10 minute break.”
Caster, “We’re fuuuuuuuu…”

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Gym looking particularly grubby today.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:08:17am

re: #248 lawhawk

Trump is still fucked, but CBS pundits are claiming that Sondland didn’t seal the deal on Trump-Sondland discussion re: quid pro quo.

Circumstantial evidence is more than enough to convict someone for this.

LOLwhut? CBS pundits still not convinced?

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:08:25am
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:08:46am

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump was too ham-handed to even think to build some layers of deniability into this: to have Zelinsky declare a series of investigations into corruption in general, one of which would name the Bidens, for example.

as electoral-vote.com ‘opined’ the other day
he should have called zelensky personally on a burner phone
no one else involved.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:09:13am

Check out Nunes’ face, he appears to be sweating fiercely at the moment.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:09:29am
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Amory Blaine  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:09:48am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:10:33am

re: #239 Targetpractice

5-10 break…so, that means 20 minutes, folks. Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em.

Doesn’t everyone just DVR it and play it at their leisure? That’s my practice — and then I don’t have time to listen to most of it anyway.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:10:45am

re: #255 lawhawk

he did
and he nailed it
the scheme was pervasive
directed by the president
for his personal benefit
and specifically said that’s why they dont want anyone to testify or release dox

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:11:20am

re: #246 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

a break
oh good, cause i gotta pee

You and Gordon Sondland, I’d guess: from all the water he’s been chugging while testifying….

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:13:00am

re: #262 Jay C

You and Gordon Sondland, I’d guess: from all the water he’s been chugging while testifying….

well all the speculation of him taking the fifth, etc. he didnt do badly. maintained his composure. tried to thread the needle. i guess that’ll make a guy thirsty

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:13:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:14:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:15:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:17:09am
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:17:10am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cow Boy is about to have a rough day.

What are the odds that Nunes and Jordan just don’t come back?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:17:54am

re: #254 Sir John Barron

LOLwhut? CBS pundits still not convinced?

CBS = Conservative Bull Shit!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:18:34am
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:18:41am

I’m hoping Sondland eventually ropes Barr into this, too.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:19:00am

Someone check the other wingnut sites

Dailyfail

Ambassador to EU Gordon Sondland tells impeachment probe Donald Trump ORDERED him to work with Giuliani, says Pompeo, Mulvaney AND Pence all knew about linking a Biden probe to Ukraine aid - and has messages to prove it

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:19:41am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nunes’ face says it all. He’d make a really shitty poker player.

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:19:49am

Mrs. Jay and I were (for a change) watching the hearings live, and she brought up an interesting point ( unrelated to Ukrainian stuff): why have the Democrats ( and the media, for that matter) seem to have completely spaced the news of the settlement deal a Trump had to agree to with NYS, where he basically admitted guilt in a major charity fraud?

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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:20:10am

re: #268 makeitstop

Cow Boy is about to have a rough day.

What are the odds that Nunes and Jordan just don’t come back?

If they were smart, they’d come back and start asking questions to bury Trump even further. The writing is on the wall and they’re going to have to do a public Goldwater moment of explaining to the president that he lost the party

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:20:23am
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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:20:29am

Gymbag Jordan thinking he’s never seen a shower scene like this one.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:21:05am

re: #273 Dr Lizardo

Nunes’ face says it all. He’d make a really shitty poker player.

Nunez redoubled Jordan’s 7 No Trump bid ignorant of Schiff holding all four aces…

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:21:34am

re: #277 Mescalero09

Gymbag Jordan thinking he’s never seen a shower scene like this one.

Yeah. It’s golden…..

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:21:40am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Nice try David Duke lite.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:22:04am
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:22:17am

Nunes doubling down on the conspiracy theories…

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calochortus  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:22:28am

re: #272 Stanley Sea

Someone check the other wingnut sites

Dailyfail

Freepers are disgruntled. Started out with the usual talking points, moved to discussing whether Sondland was a deep state, never Trump plant or would surprise us all with his defense of Trump (the latter a distinct minority view,) and are now just grousing about the Democrats and the unfairness of life.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:22:50am

Oh goodie, time to take Devin’s CTs out for walkies again.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:23:01am

dunes is going down the crazy road

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:23:36am

The flop sweat is just covering Devin’s forehead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:23:43am
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:24:03am

re: #284 Targetpractice

Oh goodie, time to take Devin’s CTs out for walkies again.

re: #285 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

dunes is going down the crazy road

What else has he got left at this point?

Sondland not playing along…

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:24:38am

Sondland has a look that says “Where’s he going with this?”

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:24:51am

re: #282 makeitstop

Nunes doubling down on the conspiracy theories…

Uranium 1? Fast & Furious? Clinton Foundation? Release The Memo?

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Mike Lamb  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:24:55am

Manafort was convicted, homey.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:25:27am

re: #290 Sir John Barron

Uranium 1? Fast & Furious? Clinton Foundation? Release The Memo?

He must have called the yam during the break to get some “genius” ideas.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:25:34am

re: #274 Jay C

Mrs. Jay and I were (for a change) watching the hearings live, and she brought up an interesting point ( unrelated to Ukrainian stuff): why have the Democrats ( and the media, for that matter) seem to have completely spaced the news of the settlement deal a Trump had to agree to with NYS, where he basically admitted guilt in a major charity fraud?

I think the Democrats are concentrating on establishing this *one* case since it then throws open the door (or perhaps more aptly breaks the dam) to look at everything else. Once Trump’s on-going corruption is openly established it can be reinforced by going to all the other cases of corruption that he has been convicted of, or is being investigated for.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:25:48am

re: #290 Sir John Barron

Uranium 1? Fast & Furious? Clinton Foundation? Release The Memo?

Ukrainian meanies saying mean things on Twitter.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:26:13am

that the president embraced this CT doesnt make it so

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:26:13am
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Mike Lamb  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:26:37am

So now it sounds like Nunes is making the case that Trump withheld the aide as a personal vendetta.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:26:51am

re: #293 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think the Democrats are concentrating on establishing this *one* case since it then throws open the door (or perhaps more aptly breaks the dam) to look at everything else. Once Trump’s on-going corruption is openly established it can be reinforced by going to all the other cases of corruption that he has been convicted of, or is being investigated for.

yup sondland just gave them the crowbar (imo)

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:27:07am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

So….is Nunes saying the real corruption wasn’t Hunter Biden but….Ukraine’s helping Killary steal the election using the Steele Dossier and that that is the Corruption Donnie wanted to expose?

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:27:08am
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KGxvi  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:27:08am

Nunes is basically a redstate comment thread come to life at this point

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:27:10am

This Tweet aged well:

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:27:16am

Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back, cow boy.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:27:26am

re: #297 Mike Lamb

So now it sounds like Nunes is making the case that Trump withheld the aide as a personal vendetta.

And I don’t think he even realizes what he’s doing! Moron.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:27:56am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:28:08am

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ah, ha! Just proves this deep state operative who donated falsely to the Drump campaign is in deep to his eye balls in the secret conspiracy to…um…something

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:28:26am

Now we have to see if things start spinning so hard that pieces start to break off.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:28:56am

re: #301 KGxvi

Nunes is basically a redstate comment thread come to life at this point

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:29:09am

TV off now — Listening to Republicans questioning witnesses or ranting about their CT is not conducive to maintaining my emotional equilibrium.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:29:10am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shame Nunes came to town today all ready to support Sondland against Dems smears and now he has to turnaround right quick and do the smearing himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:29:40am
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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:29:47am

Nunes is getting angry because Sondland isn’t cooperating with his effort to undermine the last 45 minutes of testimony.

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Disloyal Archangel  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:30:06am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:30:10am

WH talking points throwing Giuliani under the bus.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:30:18am

re: #293 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think the Democrats are concentrating on establishing this *one* case since it then throws open the door (or perhaps more aptly breaks the dam) to look at everything else. Once Trump’s on-going corruption is openly established it can be reinforced by going to all the other cases of corruption that he has been convicted of, or is being investigated for.

Pelosi said earlier this week—or was it last week?—that the impeachment process would likely extend into next year. Of course, maybe that was a warning shot to McConnell.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:30:21am
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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:31:34am

Sondland like—why are you asking me whether they should get Hunter Biden in here—you are a moron, cow boy.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:31:47am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:32:08am

re: #316 lawhawk

Wow, Ken Starr making a strong case for obstruction and contempt of Congress charges on Fox right now. Cites Nixon. Says he’s changed his mind on these proceedings. “It’s over. There will be articles on impeachment.”

Which will get voted down in the Senate.

But that is not the point.

The motto will be to the voters: “Dare to finish the job that the GOP refused to finish!”

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bratwurst  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:32:12am

Nunes earned love from his fat orange daddy once again.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:33:57am

Now Corey’s twin brother of different mothers will lull us to sleep—I’m just sayin’

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:35:03am

re: #318 Targetpractice

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Holy shit.

I think we’re gonna see a whole lot of this today…please proceed, Team Treason.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:35:40am

Ok. Not “Fuck yourself” rather “GO Fuck yourself”

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:36:45am

re: #319 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which will get voted down in the Senate.

I dunno. Let’s give it a few days.

If Ken Fucking Starr is saying the jig is up, the jig very well may be up.

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:38:17am

OMG, Nunes is relying on recycling every schlocky cliche the GOP has used to try to deflect guilt away from Trump and his gang?

Steele dossier?
Burisma?
Hunter Biden?

Democrats in 2016??

Trump the victim of “dirtying”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:38:38am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:39:17am

re: #324 makeitstop

I dunno. Let’s give it a few days.

If Ken Fucking Starr is saying the jig is up, the jig very well may be up.

I would be shocked if the Senate were to actually remove Trump. Getting a couple of GOP Senators to vote for removal is a real possibility.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:39:28am

I’m now awaiting the tweet from DT telling us that he is the least cranky person in the universe. Totally not-cranky. All the time.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:39:31am

Castor seems like someone changed his batteries. They understand how dangerous Sondland is.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:39:37am

re: #324 makeitstop

I dunno. Let’s give it a few days.

If Ken Fucking Starr is saying the jig is up, the jig very well may be up.

A lot of Republican senators are going to have to face the voters knowing they ignored the evidence with Trump. It’s easy to be cynical but Trump could be ballot poison.

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steve_davis  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:40:35am

re: #78 Joe Bacon 🌹

No.

My suspicion is that there will be some Republican senators who will vote for conviction and removal. There may be an argument about whether perhaps the president should just be censured. But I can’t see all Republican senators feeling so invulnerable that they just blindly run down the rabbit hole.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:41:00am

Castor is flailing so badly that I almost feel sorry for him.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:41:34am

castor is working (hoping) on the basis that there is no ‘direct evidence’

that’s because they wont respond to the subpoenas to testify and for dox

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:42:19am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

A lot of Republican senators are going to have to face the voters knowing they ignored the evidence with Trump. It’s easy to be cynical but Trump could be ballot poison.

The problem they have is the deplorable vote they need to win will view them as traitors if they vote to remove Trump. They have a tiger by the tail.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:42:29am

‘president pompeo’

everyone gets flustered someteims

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:42:52am

re: #316 lawhawk

Wow, but I recall like it was just last week someone on Faux saying how Drump rage tweeting at a witness was impeachable and how that has died down.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:43:10am

too good to be true proves correct

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:43:33am

re: #334 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The problem they have is the deplorable vote they need to win will view them as traitors if they vote to remove Trump. They have a tiger by the tail.

Yep. It’s not going to be easy for them and I love it.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:43:39am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

A lot of Republican senators are going to have to face the voters knowing they ignored the evidence with Trump. It’s easy to be cynical but Trump could be ballot poison.

I’ve been saying for a while that self-preservation will eventually kick in.

Given the choice of defending a now-obvious criminal or saving their cushy gig, what do you think they’ll do?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:43:41am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:44:35am

re: #274 Jay C

Mrs. Jay and I were (for a change) watching the hearings live, and she brought up an interesting point ( unrelated to Ukrainian stuff): why have the Democrats ( and the media, for that matter) seem to have completely spaced the news of the settlement deal a Trump had to agree to with NYS, where he basically admitted guilt in a major charity fraud?

They may not be interested in pursuing impeachment based on crimes committed before his election to the Presidency, especially those that were not involved in getting him the office. OTOH, it’s certainly possible that tax crimes could figure in to the impeachment, if they manage to acquire his tax records before the articles are voted on.

Personally, despite all the arguments to the contrary, I really think he may well resign, citing health issues, especially if there is a commitment to not prosecute him for his criminal activities. Question to lawyers: could President Pence pardon him for tax evasion so that he doesn’t have to pay up? Or would the pardon be limited to his not going to jail for tax fraud?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:44:47am

re: #333 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

castor is working (hoping) on the basis that there is no ‘direct evidence’

that’s because they wont respond to the subpoenas to testify and for dox

“Show us the specific spot where POTUS said specifically ‘announce hearings or no aid’ in those direct exact words in order or this whole set of hearings is a witch hunt inquisition to take away will of voters.”

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:44:50am

gasp - the president lied to sen. johnson

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:45:13am

re: #320 bratwurst

Nunes earned love from his fat orange daddy once again.

He’s seriously such a weak POS:

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:45:14am

re: #329 Mike Lamb

Castor seems like someone changed his batteries. They understand how dangerous Sondland is.

But they didn’t update the software, since he’s still coming across as a clueless doofus…

re: #327 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Just my opinion, of course, but I think Moscow Mitch is more-likely figuring out how to game the Senate trial so that he gets the desired acquittal with just enough leeway to make it appear reasonably “fair”… And/or give wavering GOPers the proper level of cover.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:45:58am
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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:46:36am

There are many reasons to disbelieve Senator Johnson.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:46:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:47:10am
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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:47:10am

Sondland just said he hasn’t had that many calls with Trump.

Didn’t someone the other day say Sondland bragged he could call Trump any time he wanted?

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:47:13am

amb s: “i’ve had a lot of conversations with the presidnet about completely unrelated matters” (to ukraine)

but trump doesnt know who he is

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:47:16am

re: #333 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

castor is working (hoping) on the basis that there is no ‘direct evidence’

that’s because they wont respond to the subpoenas to testify and for dox

Awaiting announcement from White House of four minor, but quickly controlled fires. Oval Office, secure files room (hard copies), server room, server backup room at undisclosed location.

Only minor material damage to some equipment and papers. Nothing to see here. Please move on.
//

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:48:34am

re: #341 Hecuba’s daughter

They may not be interested in pursuing impeachment based on crimes committed before his election to the Presidency, especially those that were not involved in getting him the office. OTOH, it’s certainly possible that tax crimes could figure in to the impeachment, if they manage to acquire his tax records before the articles are voted on.

Personally, despite all the arguments to the contrary, I really think he may well resign, citing health issues, especially if there is a commitment to not prosecute him for his criminal activities. Question to lawyers: could President Pence pardon him for tax evasion so that he doesn’t have to pay up? Or would the pardon be limited to his not going to jail for tax fraud?

I don’t think Pence can protect him from New York State getting his ass in any case.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:48:37am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

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that handwritten note:
“I WANT NOTHING”

THREE TIMES IN ALL CAPS

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:49:26am

re: #353 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I don’t think Pence can protect him from New York State getting his ass in any case.

He cannot. And a pardon I think would be career suicide.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:50:31am

re: #331 steve_davis

My suspicion is that there will be some Republican senators who will vote for conviction and removal. There may be an argument about whether perhaps the president should just be censured. But I can’t see all Republican senators feeling so invulnerable that they just blindly run down the rabbit hole.

Some of them have their hands tied by Russian Kompromat, they will not budge. Others are truly ideologically blindered and the rest will just have to run with the herd.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:50:44am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hard to believe he can breathe what with his neck hanging over his collar like that. Jeez.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:51:13am

I’m learning more about Ukraine in the 30’s. I bet Putin could get Trump to downplay the Holodomor and Moscow’s role in it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:52:17am

re: #355 HappyWarrior

He cannot. And a pardon I think would be career suicide.

But Pence will not be the Republican nominee in 2020 anyway. There are plenty of jackals eager to run once Trump is deposed and Pence has no base outside the evangelicals.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:52:25am

re: #341 Hecuba’s daughter

Personally, despite all the arguments to the contrary, I really think he may well resign, citing health issues, especially if there is a commitment to not prosecute him for his criminal activities. Question to lawyers: could President Pence pardon him for tax evasion so that he doesn’t have to pay up? Or would the pardon be limited to his not going to jail for tax fraud?

Paying back taxes owed is independent of serving a sentence or paying a fine for avoiding same.

I don’t think the President has the power to exempt someone’s tax debt.

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mmmirele  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:52:44am

What I hate about my current job is when I get asked to babysit a line of business and technology I don’t have a good grasp on (= I don’t really understand what they’re doing here), I have to pay super close attention and I’m missing out on the good stuff. Blergh.

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:53:11am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:53:12am

Lre: #359 Hecuba’s daughter

But Pence will not be the Republican nominee in 2020 anyway. There are plenty of jackals eager to run once Trump is deposed and Pence has no base outside the evangelicals.

I meant for the party. They’re already seen by many as blindly doing Trump’s will. A pardon would be even worse.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:54:59am

Listening to Dogs on the Pink Floyd album Animals. Very appropriate for GOP apparatchiks.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:55:15am

re: #328 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

I’m now awaiting the tweet from DT telling us that he is the least cranky person in the universe. Totally not-cranky. All the time.

Live, in person, instead of a tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:55:56am

re: #365 BeachDem

Live, in person, instead of a tweet.

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Could have fooled me that he’s always in a good mood.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:57:01am

re: #365 BeachDem

Live, in person, instead of a tweet.

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Trump plays CalvinBall all-day every-day and touches the opposite pole every few minutes. And he has the media constantly singing or humming the “I’m Sorry” song as they both-sider things to make him appear sane.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:58:33am

The gig is all the way up, suckers!

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:59:08am

re: #363 HappyWarrior

L

I meant for the party. They’re already seen by many as blindly doing Trump’s will. A pardon would be even worse.

Feature, not bug.
For a huge segment of the electorate…

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:59:40am

re: #366 HappyWarrior

Could have fooled me that he’s always in a good mood.

and that he never lies and didnt lie to sondland on the phone

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 8:59:59am

re: #369 Jay C

Feature, not bug.
For a huge segment of the electorate…

But the majority? Seems to me. The way they’re messaging this all sucks.

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:00:25am

re: #364 BlueSpotinAL

Listening to Dogs on the Pink Floyd album Animals. Very appropriate for GOP apparatchiks.

‘And when you lose control, you’ll reap the harvest that you’ve own
And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone
And it’s too late to loose the weight you used to need to throw around
So have a good drown, as you go down alone
Dragged down by the stone.’

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Jay C  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:02:05am

re: #371 HappyWarrior

But the majority? Seems to me. The way they’re messaging this all sucks.

I hope that’s true. For the country’s sake.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:02:53am

Castor regretting asking his “regular channel” question big time.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:02:58am

...because you’re not the ambassador to unkraine and the actual ambassador was kept out of the loop and unltimately axed.

that’s the official channel

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:03:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:04:00am

re: #375 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

...because you’re not the ambassador to ukraine and the actual ambassador was kept out of the loop and unltimately axed.

that’s the official channel

there was a discussion about how that was “entirely unusual”

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Mike Lamb  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:05:44am

re: #365 BeachDem

Live, in person, instead of a tweet.

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It’s great that Trump told Sondland he didn’t want a quid pro quo after Trump had been informed of the whistleblower complaint. TOTAL EXONERATION!

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steve_davis  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:05:50am

re: #268 makeitstop

Cow Boy is about to have a rough day.

What are the odds that Nunes and Jordan just don’t come back?

re: #221 HappyWarrior

I would love to see an actual theological scholar show Rubio up for the empty suit he is as a man, senator, and theologian.

My Dad would have done him like Bane did to Batman. It would have been brutal.

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Targetpractice  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:07:07am

ABANDON SHIP!

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:07:07am

Sondland has the same “you’re a moron” look when Castor rambles as he did with Nunes.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:08:15am
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Jay C  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:08:37am

re: #375 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

...because you’re not the ambassador to unkraine and the actual ambassador was kept out of the loop and unltimately axed.

that’s the official channel

And Sondland just admitted that part sir his “remit” was to act as a sort of parallel diplomacy specifically aimed at Ukraine.
And never mind that there was no “regular” Ambassador there because Rudy and his cronies had agitated to get her fired.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:10:01am

re: #382 NO SMOCKING GUN!

This, and not in 30 years.

My expectation is electoral backlash from Senate acquittal given the severity of this scheme & the complicity & duplicity of so many Admin officials. Voters will be frustrated at a political system incapable of upholding the Rule of Law.

And that will be the central message of the DNC: “The GOP Senate punted. Now is the time, voters, to get out there and finish the job they refused to!”

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:10:16am

The notes from Trump’s chopper “talk”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:10:59am

re: #380 Targetpractice

ABANDON SHIP!

[Embedded content]

His reputation sucked before Trump.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:13:06am

Wingnuts were not expecting this:

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Chrysicat  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:13:58am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:14:28am

Hailstorm in Downtown LA right now….

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:14:35am

re: #387 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

Wingnuts were not expecting this:

[Embedded content]

What are they going to do with Fiona Hill tomorrow?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:15:33am

re: #390 Barefoot Grin

What are they going to do with Fiona Hill tomorrow?

Smear her.

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Chrysicat  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:16:13am

Is this Republican suggesting it’s treasonous of Sondland to have obeyed a subpeona?!?

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:16:52am

Goldman just got Sondland to admit that: Perry, Pompeo, and Mulvaney would be key witnesses to add to this investigation.

394
DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:16:53am

key witnesses - blammo

i knew goldman would get to this

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:17:02am

Goldman is so good and Castor is so pathetic.

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wrenchwench  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:17:03am

re: #389 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hailstorm in Downtown LA right now….

The hail, you say…

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:17:19am

re: #391 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Smear her.

Yeah, they’re making “never-Trumper” signs to put on easels as we write.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:19:16am

re: #385 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

The notes from Trump’s chopper “talk”

When did someone’s own notes constitute “receipts”?

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:19:36am

re: #380 Targetpractice

ABANDON SHIP!

[Embedded content]

So his excuse for resignation is that he wants to be a Senator? Mark Sanford did recover from his “hiking the Appalachian trail” controversy. But that did not involve a serious betrayal of public trust, just marital trust. Pompeo has been assiduously working to undermine American security ever since he became Secretary of State. Any competent opponent of his would raise these charges regularly during the campaign. Trump’s entire administration is part of Team Treason (except for those like Carson who are merely part of Team Corruption).

400
DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:19:45am

re: #393 lawhawk

Goldman just got Sondland to admit that: Perry, Pompeo, and Mulvaney would be key witnesses to add to this investigation.

gmta by 0:01!

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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:20:24am

When you take notes……

402
Stanley Sea  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:20:38am

I hope he asks Sondland how many times he’s spoken to the yam.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:20:51am
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Chrysicat  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:21:44am

re: #392 Chrysicat

Oh, NVM. That’s our counsel. Not sure we shouldn’t be trusting our Representatives instead, but he wasn’t calling him out for testifying like I thought; he was calling the others out for ducking.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:22:54am

If Trump’s out there screaming on the lawn it appears that he might be in trouble has gotten into his small mind and seriously grabbed his attention.

406
Stanley Sea  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:24:56am
407
Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:26:12am

re: #406 Stanley Sea

“I’m walking bitch.”

408
Flying Squirrel Girl  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:27:09am

“Black propaganda” being used against American citizens by the President of the United States. Lordy. Trump is so much worse than what I could ever imagine.

409
lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:27:51am
410
HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:28:58am

re: #408 Flying Squirrel Girl

“Black propaganda” being used against American citizens by the President of the United States. Lordy. Trump is so much worse than what I could ever imagine.

[Embedded content]

Let’s be clear. Trump’s interests aren’t the United States.

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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:29:13am

re: #401 Mescalero09

412
Nyet  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:30:17am

That old adage, about keeping the powder dry, that Pelosi has been using on certain occasions… she’s was right all along, whether she knew it or not. It’s on.

413
gocart mozart  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:30:46am
414
Hecuba's daughter  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:32:18am

re: #409 lawhawk

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We need a t-shirt with the message “I read the transcript. Impeach 45!” or maybe substitute Rashida’s more colorful terminology.

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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:32:33am
416
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:32:45am

re: #413 gocart mozart

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:32:48am
418
Egregious Philbin  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:32:58am

re: #411 Mescalero09

Non Compos Mentis

419
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:33:00am

re: #412 Nyet

That old adage, about keeping the powder dry, that Pelosi has been using on certain occasions… she’s was right all along, whether she knew it or not. It’s on.

I assumed that Nancy knows and knew things that most of us did not and trusted her judgement even when others were accusing her of abusing her power and position (Sarah Kendzior, I still love you but I cannot forgive you for giving up on Nancy)

420
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:33:26am

re: #418 Egregious Philbin

Non Compos Mentis

compost mentis

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:33:42am

re: #417 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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McCarthy is a dumbass.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:33:51am

re: #416 Eclectic Cyborg

[Embedded content]

Winner!

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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:34:40am

re: #418 Egregious Philbin

Wet sack of worms.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:37:12am

this is not about the definition of qpq or what specific words or actions were or were not used

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:38:04am

Hey, twitterati, has John Dean weighed in about this testimony?

(Dean had had an attack of conscience, Sondland appears to have been overcome by self-preservation.but the effect may very well be the same.)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:38:07am

re: #412 Nyet

That old adage, about keeping the powder dry, that Pelosi has been using on certain occasions… she’s was right all along, whether she knew it or not. It’s on.

I think she figured Trump would hang himself with his own rope. The other nice side effect is it’s coming out he lied to Mueller too.

427
Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:38:20am

re: #387 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

Wingnuts were not expecting this:

Were you or were you not on the grassy knoll on the morning of November 22, 1963?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:39:25am

re: #426 HappyWarrior

I think she figured Trump would hang himself with his own rope. The other nice side effect is it’s coming out he lied to Mueller too.

He cannot open his mouth without contradicting himself, which he can get away with as long as it does not involve sworn testimony.

Much harder to spin or weasel out of that.

429
Sir John Barron  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:39:44am

re: #51 lawhawk

Alex, I’d like Examples of Self Ownage, for $1000, please.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:39:54am

re: #425 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Hey, twitterati, has John Dean weighed in about this testimony?

(Dean had had an attack of conscience, Sondland appears to have been overcome by self-preservation.but the effect may very well be the same.)

Earlier on CNN. He thinks it’s damning.

He’ll be back I’m sure once they go to break.

431
lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:40:09am

This is meme worthy:

I’ll go first:

I spent a million bucks and all I got was this lousy impeachment hearing.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:40:56am

re: #413 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

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Mescalero09  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:41:11am

re: #431 lawhawk

“Guess who’s driving the bus?”

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:41:18am

there was no qpq but there was

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makeitstop  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:41:48am

436
BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:41:58am

Ugh—now cow boy will sling bovine excrement for several minutes.

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BeachDem  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:42:57am

And Sondland reprises his head nod/please make this moron stop face.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:43:14am

“It could have went?” Geez, Nunes, are you rattled r something?

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lawhawk  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:43:35am

GOP now has 33 minutes to spew bulkshit.

Nunes has the bulkshit down pat, because he’s not getting to an actual question.

Oh, so now Nunes is claiming Schiff engaged in obstruction of justice by not releasing evidence?

That’s bulkshit because that’s not how investigations work.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 20, 2019 • 9:45:30am

Schiff must love adding the extra time. The GOP members get to flail around more and the Democrats get to ask very good questions to clarify things and open up other avenues to be looked at.

And it becomes clearer and clearer that the White House, State Department, and Justice Department are all stonewalling and obstructing.

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Nyet  Nov 20, 2019 • 10:11:53am

re: #438 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

“It could have went?” Geez, Nunes, are you rattled r something?

He’s a living comment section.


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