Impeachment Inquiry hearing with Laura Cooper and David Hale https://cs.pn/2QoK2Bw
For more on the impeachment inquiry and the administration’s response, visit https://www.c-span.org/impeachment/
So we’re going into prime time again, huh?
Also: Current government funding expires at 12:01 AM Friday Morning.
Anybody else missing the audio?
re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg
So we’re going into prime time again, huh?
Also: Current government funding expires at 12:01 AM Friday Morning.
Wasn’t there an extension until December? Or is it waiting for Trump to sign it?
re: #4 Belafon
Wasn’t there an extension until December? Or is it waiting for Trump to sign it?
Passed House, has not passed Senate yet.
Just turned the streaming link on and the audio is working. It may have been off earlier until things started up.
nunes explaining that elections have consequences and that the majority in the house runs the house and makes the rules
kind of how the senate works too
Here’s a rundown of who Sondland implicated in his testimony on Wednesday: (via huffpo)
― Trump
― Giuliani
― Vice President Mike Pence
― Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
― White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney
― Energy Secretary Rick Perry
former special envoy to Ukraine Kurt Volker
Perry’s chief of staff, Brian McCormack
― Former national security adviser John Bolton
― Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)
“Again, everyone was in the loop,” Sondland said.
HOLY MOLY! If you’ve lost “BJ” Starr, you’re finished.
BREAKING: Ken Starr just suggested on Fox News that Sondland’s testimony could prompt GOP to “make a trip to the White House” and ask Trump to resign.
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) November 20, 2019
Yesterday I wished Devin Nunes into the cornfield, but that clearly didn’t work, so today I’m wishing him to turn into a jack-in-the-box. Shouldn’t be too hard, he’s already halfway there.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 20, 2019
I loathe these sycophants more than Tang the Terrible lies. So that means a lot.
as an aside observation, apparently
if thegreatpoolpondconversion post doesnt include pix, it dont get the traffic ;-)
re: #10 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
HOLY MOLY! If you’ve lost “BJ” Starr, you’re finished.
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I think that was retracted long ago. He was apparently quoting Pelosi.
re: #10 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Okay, Ken Starr did NOT say Trump is guilty of bribery. He said this was Chairman Schiff’s position. “This is [Schiff’s] position.” pic.twitter.com/Wib90WW53t
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 20, 2019
Trump’s DOJ tried Warren for the crime of trying to make sure migrants in the desert didn’t die of thirst. (The specific charges were more technical, but that’s the real point.)
First trial ended in a hung jury.
DOJ just now straight up lost the retrial. A rare jury acquittal. https://t.co/lUJTEi0Xzw— John Pfaff (@JohnFPfaff) November 20, 2019
Here’s the whole clip. Nothing about Pelosi and I did not suggest that Starr had said Trump was guilty anyway. Starr was speaking hypothetically before the start of Sondland’s testimony though.
Another GOP talking point bites the dust. https://t.co/9AIS35CIDU
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) November 20, 2019
Ratcliffe making the strong point that lots of people die so this can’t be a murder.
I’m working and have this video on but I cannot work and really listen to it. So I leave it on and just watch the LIzard Wall for the good bits. Works well, recommend.
Did the WH physician always travel with the president?
Arriving in Austin.. POTUS, Ivanka and the White House Physician. pic.twitter.com/Av2nRMV3kt
— Claude Taylor (@TrueFactsStated) November 20, 2019
It’s apples to oranges when talking about other countries with held aid — those other countries are not in a hot war with Russia.
re: #23 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Did the WH physician always travel with the president?
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re: #19 jaunte
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We might be a bit fatigued at this point, but this is a big fucking deal.
Dems: meat, potatos, vegetables
GOP: stale pork rinds, the dust at the bottom of bags of potato chips, boogers, Faygo (flat)
Change my mind.
re: #21 BigPapa
I’m working and have this video on but I cannot work and really listen to it. So I leave it on and just watch the LIzard Wall for the good bits. Works well, recommend.
OMG did you see that???!!!!
😀
re: #28 Mike Lamb
We might be a bit fatigued at this point, but this is a big fucking deal.
This photo is an accurate characterization! After testifying that there was no legitimate anti-corruption rationale for holding aid, Cooper made clear what has long been suspected, that the Ukrainians knew something was up on the same day Zelensky spoke with Trump by phone. https://t.co/JYXm2TUZTf
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) November 20, 2019
re: #23 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I’ve been under the impression that a regular Air Force physician accompanies trips on AF1. So I don’t know how often the WH physician travels.
re: #18 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
The phrase that comes to mind about this Ken Starr comment is ‘plausible deniability’. Restating what he finds credible, but preserving his employment at faux by saying it’s somebody else’s words.
re: #29 BigPapa
Dems: meat, potatos, vegetables
GOP: stale pork rinds, the dust at the bottom of bags of potato chips, boogers, Faygo (flat)Change my mind.
That’s much too kind to the GOP. A food analogy for the Republican party starts with a squirming mass of maggots infesting a hunk of rotten meat. Seasoned with spices from biological, chemical and nuclear superfund sites. Topped off with ground glass.
re: #27 Thanos
Ok boomer.
Us olds still got game. My favorite Old Guys Rule quote:
Guile and treachery will always defeat youth and vigor
Jordan’s constant mewling is annoying even on the closed captioning
— Karoli (@Karoli) November 20, 2019
re: #36 EPR-radar
That’s much too kind to the GOP. A food analogy for the Republican party starts with a squirming mass of maggots infesting a hunk of rotten meat. Seasoned with spices from biological, chemical and nuclear superfund sites. Topped off with ground glass.
And they serve it up at GOP banquets where everybody yells: “Wow!! Delicious!! I want MORE!!!!”
It remains unclear what the president understands “freedom of the press” to mean. He said again today: “We don’t have freedom of the press in this country. We have a phony press.”
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) November 20, 2019
re: #36 EPR-radar
That’s much too kind to the GOP. A food analogy for the Republican party starts with a squirming mass of maggots infesting a hunk of rotten meat. Seasoned with spices from biological, chemical and nuclear superfund sites. Topped off with ground glass.
DAAAAM! Mind changed.
Laura Cooper, deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, testifies her staff showed her an email from State Department on July 25 that said the Ukrainian embassy and House Foreign Affairs Committee were inquiring about security assistance. Day of Trump-Zelensky call.
— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) November 20, 2019
Cooper also says “a member of my staff got a question from a Ukraine embassy contact asking what was going on with Ukraine security assistance.”
— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) November 20, 2019
re: #23 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Did the WH physician always travel with the president?
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Hitler always did didn’t he?
The testimony today and the flailing Republican attempts to defend Trump have been enjoyable and it is so gratifying to see the corruption and graft dragged out into the light.
But (I and don’t want to piss on anyone’s cheerios here) it’s also pretty meaningless.
Articles of Impeachment at this point are pretty much a foregone conclusion, but so is Trump’s acquittal in the Senate. There would need to be 20 Republicans with the courage and integrity to publicly stand up and vote against him (and that means pissing off the gullible, atavistic mob who they need voting for them to keep their own positions). There simply aren’t that many. Years of gerrymandering and a race to the bottom on the right have bred integrity and courage right out of the DNA of the Republican party. It has no heart, no soul, no values left other than IGMFY.
What’s happening now needs to be done and I applaud the Dems for pursuing it even if it does backfire on them electorally but I’ve seriously tempered my expectations as to the eventual outcome.
lol @ Trump pushing that phone call with Sondland where he said “NO QUID PRO QUO!!!!” that was 2 days after the whistleblower complaint. I can’t help but laugh at the bullshit Trump is trying to push.
I don’t buy that a failure to remove Tang from office will result in electoral consequences to Democrats. It’s possible nothing changes. Trump surviving removal won’t win him or lose him votes.
This is the part where the GOP tries to bore us all to death with minutiae.
re: #46 BigPapa
I don’t buy that a failure to remove Tang from office will result in electoral consequences to Democrats. It’s possible nothing changes. Trump surviving removal won’t win him or lose him votes.
If the Republicans in the Senate act like Lindsay Graham has, I can actually see voting against removal hurting the GOP.
re: #44 2020 Blue Wisconsin
As you say, impeachment has to be tried, no matter how unlikely the Senate is to remove Trump from office.
However, consequence-free Senate acquittal of Trump is looking unlikely. Some of those GOP Senators are from purple states where the votes of Trumpist true believers aren’t enough to keep them in office.
McConnell will cheerfully get rid of Trump if he thinks he has to to preserve his Senate majority. Let the deep red states replace any Senate ‘traitors’ in the GOP primaries — those new idiots would still be Republican Senators contributing to McConnell’s majority.
Despite the fierce competion, the renowned SMOTI keeps his title year in and year out.
Meanwhile, Russian state media, amplified by Russian disinfo channels, amplified by US far-right/MAGA disinfo, has a story about how Burisma + Hunter have been indicted in Ukraine. No real news with any evidence yet. https://t.co/vbu0UaTvDP
— Molly McKew (@MollyMcKew) November 20, 2019
re: #46 BigPapa
I agree. I just think a lot of people are looking at these hearings the same way they looked at the release of the Mueller Report. There isn’t going to be some savior or hero to rescue us from this Trumpian nightmare. There is no one who can do that except ourselves come next November.
President Trump just toured a Texas plant that has been making Apple computers since 2013 and took credit for it, suggesting the plant opened today. “Today is a very special day.”
Tim Cook spoke immediately after him and did not correct the record.— Jack Nicas (@jacknicas) November 20, 2019
President Trump: “I said, ‘Someday we’re going to see Apple building plants in our country, not in China. And thats what’s happening.”
This is false. Apple hasn’t built any plants in the U.S. & still makes the vast majority of its products in China.— Jack Nicas (@jacknicas) November 20, 2019
President Trump later repeated the falsehood here.
To be clear: This plant has been open since 2013. https://t.co/smTXqPZMFk— Jack Nicas (@jacknicas) November 20, 2019
Is there any truth to the report that Ukraine cannot use the javelin missiles against Russia? Seems that should come out somewhere in these proceedings while the R’s are stroking themselves off about tRump sending the missiles and Obama sent blankets.
re: #50 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Despite the fierce competion, the renowned SMOTI keeps his title year in and year out.
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Started at Zerohedge, a site run by two bulgarian bros intent on goldbuggery, oil pimping, Russian state propaganda and fleecing rw rubes through pump and dump schemes
Republicans continued to pretend that Trump did nothing wrong because, AFTER the whistleblower came forward, he said, “I want nothing” and the aid to Ukraine—though not a White House meeting—was finally delivered. Republicans are convinced that 2+2=22. https://t.co/mknQJdXiyn
— Max Boot (@MaxBoot) November 20, 2019
“But but Hunter Biden’s baby!”
Yay Speier! She points out that Ukraine is in hot war, so holding aid not the same as it is in other countries.
re: #53 Eventual Carrion
Is there any truth to the report that Ukraine cannot use the javelin missiles against Russia? Seems that should come out somewhere in these proceedings while the R’s are stroking themselves off about tRump sending the missiles and Obama sent blankets.
I don’t know if there is language in the deal that says keep them off the front lines but I would bet that you can find them there, regardless.
Hey, we have a bad president.
If this were a prizefight, they’d stop it!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 20, 2019
re: #59 Charles Johnson
Hey, we have a bad president.
He’s right, though. If this were a prizefight, he’d already be tapping out.
2. I get Twitter’s policy about world leaders and agree with it generally. But heads of state who don’t allow their citizens to have Twitter shouldn’t be allowed to have accounts themselves. @jack
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) November 20, 2019
re: #59 Charles Johnson
Hey, we have a bad president.
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He really thinks Nunes is helping his cause.
Meanwhile, one antisemite talks to another…
Rudy Giuliani claims the US embassy in Ukraine works for George Soros - “They’re all Soros people” pic.twitter.com/xpa1TS9PLh
— Jason Campbell (@JasonSCampbell) November 20, 2019
It’s an impeachable act to hold up the aid for personal reasons, but Republicans have argued that Ukraine would have had to know about it for it to be impeachable.
Okay, Ukraine knew.
Your move, bootlickers. https://t.co/scbyG9I4XX— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) November 20, 2019
re: #63 Joe Bacon 🌹
Meanwhile, one antisemite talks to another…
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Took me a moment to realize that was Glenn Beck. Wow.
re: #63 Joe Bacon 🌹
Meanwhile, one antisemite talks to another…
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JFC. This is straight up Protocols of Elders shit.
re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg
Took me a moment to realize that was Glenn Beck. Wow.
He’s been fingerlicking his way to Trumpism.
re: #44 2020 Blue Wisconsin
Articles of Impeachment at this point are pretty much a foregone conclusion, but so is Trump’s acquittal in the Senate.
Two months ago, people on this site were freaking out that Democrats were never going to bring impeachment to even an investigation. Now, we’re watching the poll numbers indicate that the hearings are necessary and that he should be removed. The Republicans are making fools of themselves, and it’s starting to become obvious that they don’t even care about the military after threats on Vindeman. The inquiries are dominating the news. And Bevin lost in KY.
Just because it’s not going to finish doesn’t make it seriously important. Among other things, it’s showing the world a lot of us care about the rule of law.
The house where Adolf Hitler was born will be turned into a police station after years of debate over how best to prevent it becoming a pilgrimage site for neo-Nazis https://t.co/HcPNYdMSX1 pic.twitter.com/Pgz764zkLB
— Reuters (@Reuters) November 21, 2019
re: #69 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Couldn’t they have just demolished it and put whatever else up in its place?
re: #46 BigPapa
I don’t buy that a failure to remove Tang from office will result in electoral consequences to Democrats. It’s possible nothing changes. Trump surviving removal won’t win him or lose him votes.
If it was bad for Democrats, KY and LA would have turned out differently.
re: #48 HappyWarrior
If the Republicans in the Senate act like Lindsay Graham has, I can actually see voting against removal hurting the GOP.
True. I see no downside to Democrats at all. They need to do their jobs and stick to the rules and roles. Schiff and the Dem team have been on point. This will win votes if any can be won.
The Banana Republicans only have downside risk here. The Senate trial is going to be prone with risk. Unlike the House hearings being run by Schiff, a Senate trial will actually be run by SCOTUS Roberts. I don’t think Graham will have full reign to make it a total shit show.
Is this hearing going to be finished before the debate start time?
re: #71 Belafon
If it was bad for Democrats, KY and LA would have turned out differently.
Yep. Imagine Trump in a swing state.
New Republican argument: we dealt with other countries without trying to extract a bribe so we must not have tried to extract one from Ukraine.
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) November 20, 2019
re: #54 Thanos
Started at Zerohedge, a site run by two bulgarian bros intent on goldbuggery, oil pimping, Russian state propaganda and fleecing rw rubes through pump and dump schemes
Don’t know. Zerohedge based their story on a release from Interfax-Ukraine. The TASS byline is 6 hours earlier than Zerohedge’s. It would be logical to assume that it was the source of the Interfax release. In any case, it was Zerohedge to which SMOTI linked.
Some familiar names crop in this NBC story on the hoax.
As Sondland testified, a misleading Ukraine story spread among conservatives on social media
Within an hour of ZeroHedge publishing its story, the claim of an indictment had been spread on Twitter by tens of thousands of users. According to results on the Twitter analytics tool Hoaxy, the indictment claims were propelled by Charlie Kirk, the leader of the conservative group Turning Point USA, as well as a conspiracy theorist, Jack Posobiec, and the anonymous @BreakingNLive, an account that has become notorious for spreading misinformation. The account also boasts of being retweeted by the president.
More than 10,000 users engaged with the ZeroHedge story on Facebook, which was shared to dozens of pages that totaled more than 3 million followers.
One minute before the ZeroHedge article was published, the anonymous account that inspired the QAnon conspiracy theory — generally known as “Q” — linked to the same Interfax-Ukraine article.
Stefanik: There’s an appearance of a conflict with Hunter Biden, so we should call him as a witness.
Meanwhile, GOP supports Trump not disclosing his tax returns to determine if he has an actual conflict. They’ll hold events at Trump Hotel. And they’re fine with G-7 at Doral.— Chris Lu (@ChrisLu44) November 20, 2019
re: #47 Charles Johnson
The GOP needs everything to fit on a bumper sticker. Minutiae is not in their wheelhouse.
The conviction of Trump’s former campaign chairman for corruption in Ukraine is a pretty strong argument against.
— Frank Stuart (@fstuart2) November 21, 2019
re: #76 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
More than 10,000 users engaged with the ZeroHedge story on Facebook, which was shared to dozens of pages that totaled more than 3 million followers.
I suppose if would be silly to ask if Facebook’s “anti-fake news” policies were brought to bear?
Beck and Screwdy can take their antisemitism and shove it up their asses!
re: #65 Eclectic Cyborg
That’s not Glenn Beck, that’s Colonel Sanders.
re: #76 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Don’t know. Zerohedge based their story on a release from Interfax-Ukraine. The TASS byline is 6 hours earlier than Zerohedge’s. It would be logical to assume that it was the source of the Interfax release. In any case, it was Zerohedge to which SMOTI linked.
Some familiar names crop in this NBC story on the hoax.
As Sondland testified, a misleading Ukraine story spread among conservatives on social media
They’re singing to their own choir. The stupid people will buy it. No one else will.
Putting this behind spoilers because of its gruesomeness:
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The reasons I asked the question above is because war crimes and crimes against humanity just about always cause large amounts of displacement because of the fear they instill in a civilian population.
My tinfoil goes as follows:
[tinfoil]
Shortly prior, to, and during the initial stages of, the refugee wave from Syria, rumors began coming about Russian Federation involvement in Syria, then people started fleeing head over heels.
The refugee wave gave a boost to various alt-right outfits across the West.
Now, what if the refugee wave was intentionally caused?
[/tinfoil]
Good foil, or do I need to scrap this batch?
Odd factoid: via the Wiki on Bill Clinton’s impeachment in 1998: of the 100 Senators who voted in that trial, 14 are still serving in the Senate (7 D, 7 R).
And of the 13 House Managers, 2 (Sensenbrenner and Chabot) are still serving. Another, Lindsey Graham, is… well, we know…
I wonder if that’s a “big” Senate turnover after *only* 21 years…
re: #84 Teukka
Good foil, or do I need to scrap this batch?
Russia is really good at chess. They think and plan and act many moves ahead.
re: #84 Teukka
Putting this behind spoilers because of its gruesomeness:
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The reasons I asked the question above is because war crimes and crimes against humanity just about always cause large amounts of displacement because of the fear they instill in a civilian population.
My tinfoil goes as follows:
[tinfoil]
Shortly prior, to, and during the initial stages of, the refugee wave from Syria, rumors began coming about Russian Federation involvement in Syria, then people started fleeing head over heels.
The refugee wave gave a boost to various alt-right outfits across the West.
Now, what if the refugee wave was intentionally caused?
[/tinfoil]
Good foil, or do I need to scrap this batch?
I think that’s good foil. Population displacement is a familiar strategy of war. Usually the goals are operational, to interfere with enemy logistics and movement by putting a panic-stricken horde of civilians on the road. In this case, with a worldwide psychological and media war, the objectives are strategic, to empower friendly media (the far right) and weaken those of the enemy (the progressive world).
re: #84 Teukka
My tinfoil goes as follows:
[tinfoil]
Shortly prior, to, and during the initial stages of, the refugee wave from Syria, rumors began coming about Russian Federation involvement in Syria, then people started fleeing head over heels.
The refugee wave gave a boost to various alt-right outfits across the West.
Now, what if the refugee wave was intentionally caused?
[/tinfoil]
Good foil, or do I need to scrap this batch?
I wouldn’t toss the sombrero aluminio just yet. Maybe the Syrian refugee wave wasn’t originally “intentional”, but it has certainly had the hell exploited out of it (or more precise it was hell that was exploited) by various (bad) actors both West and East.
Republicans have a “theory” that Trump held up aid to fight corruption, but not one person has testified to support that theory, and especially not one person who could testify that Trump said that.
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) November 21, 2019
So when it’s served his purposes, Jordan delighted to celebrate hearsay— Cooper who has never met the President is now his source for claiming Trump cares about general corruption issues in Ukraine.
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) November 21, 2019
Mr. Jordan, usually in diplomacy you reward and embrace new anti-corruption leaders; you don’t sanction them before they even have their government in place.
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) November 21, 2019
re: #64 Dread Pirate
Next up in Republicans impeachment defense strategy:
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“Calling John Barron to take the stand…” pic.twitter.com/xTeYqi00fX— Apolitical Firebrand (@ApolitFirebrand) November 20, 2019
Adam Shiff just Kung Fu’d the entire Republican Party.
Incredible time capsule here. Also shows how very old (and tiresome) the conservative deficit con is. Buckley’s attacking Dukakis on fiscal responsibility at the very time Reagan has predictably exploded the deficit. https://t.co/5H48ZFiCT7
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) November 18, 2019
Even though he just compared the president to Jews who were literally burned alive (among other horrors), rest assured he’s VERY pro-Israel. 🙄
— Clay C. (@ClayC1969) November 21, 2019
Prince Andrew steps back from public duties – 9 favourite things people are saying about ithttps://t.co/Xk7f7uhnW8 pic.twitter.com/dAOfDk6Yd3
— The Poke (@ThePoke) November 20, 2019
Only four GOP members are still here — not that it matters given the Dem majority but now the vote will be 13-4 instead of 13-9.
— Jeremy Herb (@jeremyherb) November 21, 2019
Now five Republicans here
— Jeremy Herb (@jeremyherb) November 21, 2019
AhHHHhHHHHhhhhHHHhhhHHH they’re gonna do roll call votes for every witness the minority is requesting, it seems, and i am going to DIE in this room.
— Addy Baird (@addysue) November 21, 2019
re: #89 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I think that’s good foil. Population displacement is a familiar strategy of war. Usually the goals are operational, to interfere with enemy logistics and movement by putting a panic-stricken horde of civilians on the road. In this case, with a worldwide psychological and media war, the objectives are strategic, to empower friendly media (the far right) and weaken those of the enemy (the progressive world).
re: #88 sagehen
Russia is really good at chess. They think and plan and act many moves ahead.
My thoughts exactly. Just wanted a second opinion. I find it deeply disturbing that the Russian Federation is sliding into authoritarianism and totalitarianism of the Soviet Union (the overt ideology being different this time). Another thing is the return of certain tactics, such as using proxies and seemingly independent forces to do things, which we have seen in Ukraine already, and it seems they are up to that in Syria as well.
Worst thing is that documents tend to be forged to prove “innocence”, so that one particular event will officially be blamed on “rebels” and appear in the archives as:
1944-07-07: Attacked garrison at Seitajärvi. Killed 94 enemy soldiers.
Despite the garrison obviously being untouched, and if memory serves me right, due to circumstances definetively not a palatable target for the Soviet Union.
Oh, and 80 years ago, give or take a day or so, a certain war began with a false flag attack, The Shelling of Mainila.
Mark Twain was right. “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme”.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I have a simple piece of advice for the 10 Democratic presidential candidates on stage tonight at Tyler Perry Studios in Atlanta, Georgia:https://t.co/vD1CJLDZdp pic.twitter.com/qLQ1Mbfl27
— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) November 21, 2019
re: #90 Jay C
I wouldn’t toss the sombrero aluminio just yet. Maybe the Syrian refugee wave wasn’t originally “intentional”, but it has certainly had the hell exploited out of it (or more precise it was hell that was exploited) by various (bad) actors both West and East.
True. Only the historical record biases me towards it not being unintentional.
The Death Star is operational and you’ve finally dissolved the Imperial Senate? https://t.co/l20awUtpmy
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) November 21, 2019
Nunes is so stupid that he asked for a second roll call on Hunter Biden, making it clear that it was another bloodbath. 13-5.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) November 21, 2019
Jordan now suggesting Cooper invented the new detail — and demoted her as well.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) November 21, 2019
Jordan now lying again that they had 3 witnesses.
— emptywheel (@emptywheel) November 21, 2019
Trump doesn’t get that this 9/9 exchange with Sondland is incriminating, not exculpatory.
Sondland says everyone acknowledged that Trump wanted a quid pro quo. But after the whistleblower complaint goes public on 9/8, Trump tries to change his story.
That shows state of mind. https://t.co/nXGhkq87zv— Scott R. Anderson (@S_R_Anders) November 20, 2019
BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAA
“All four of Gordon Sondland’s lawyers are Democrat Donors.” @TuckerCarlson Despite this, big win today for Republicans!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 21, 2019
HAHAHAHA.
Asked if he wants to hear from Pompeo and Perry he says, it’s their call.
HAHAHAHAHA.— emptywheel (@emptywheel) November 21, 2019
Vindman is telling Fox to retract the espionage story or face consequences:
A lawyer for Colonel Vindman, the National Security Council’s Ukraine expert, sent a warning letter to Fox News on Wednesday seeking a retraction or correction of an October segment hosted by one of the network’s biggest personalities, Laura Ingraham, which baselessly suggested that the colonel, a decorated Iraq war veteran, might be guilty of espionage.
The letter sent by David Pressman, a partner at Boies Schiller Flexner, the law firm run by David Boies, also highlighted inflammatory statements made on the network by others, including President Trump’s son Donald Trump Jr., who has repeatedly attacked Colonel Vindman, and Tucker Carlson, another prominent Fox host.
re: #108 Belafon
Vindman is telling Fox to retract the espionage story or face consequences:
Oh, clean their clocks!
re: #108 Belafon
Vindman is telling Fox to retract the espionage story or face consequences:
The thing that grabbed my attention about that snippet is the name Boies Schiller Flexner. That’s a big-name law firm to be throwing around. Somebody means serious business.
John Dean says the Republican Party clearly doesn’t know what they’re doing https://t.co/e0avFs659i pic.twitter.com/BEANg9llP3
— R. Saddler 📎🗽🌊🌊🌊 (@Politics_PR) November 21, 2019
😂🤣 just saw this on Instagram pic.twitter.com/DnI9jn8tME
— La Femme Nikita (@LaF3mm3Nikita) November 20, 2019
re: #105 Dread Pirate
Why does he lower case the “i” but all-cap the rest?
re: #108 Belafon
Good. Maybe Vindman can go flood Ingraham’s house like Ingraham did to that felon Douchesouza.
re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth
BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAA
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And Gordon Sondland himself donated one million bucks to Trump’s coronation. This is all so pathetic.
re: #97 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Closing statement. Can’t find it. Probably come up later.
Basically said Trump was a corrupt president. Not the “anti-corrupt” president he says he is and was acting on.
Guy has my respect. I would have probably beaten one or two people with my mic stand by now.
Not to be salacious but damn, really?
DNA testing has established, “with scientific certainty,” that Hunter Biden is the father of an Arkansas baby, the Arkansas Democrat Gazette reports.
Biden, son of former vice president Joe Biden, had denied being the father but “is not expected to challenge the results of the DNA test or the testing process.”
re: #118 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
wtf?
We might just need to reform CPB, but we need to wipe a huge number of members off its ranks:
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#BorderPatrolRapeCulture Here is mine: I joined in 1995, not knowing anything about the Border Patrol or the Border. The first day of the academy, they separated the men & women under the guise of needing to talk to women about their hair and makeup.
— Jenn Budd (@BuddJenn) November 17, 2019
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2019
Hey: John Bolton is on my Amtrak train. Gonna go over and say hi.
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) November 20, 2019
re: #118 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
An Arkansas baby is the last straw; I’m definitely not voting for Hunter Biden.
re: #122 Charles Johnson
And you will like it.
re: #124 Dave In Austin
How are you doing? Back coming along ok?
Are Arkansas babies the ones with the sharp sides tapering to a pointy head?
re: #125 jaunte
An Arkansas baby is the last straw; I’m definitely not voting for Hunter Biden.
Thats the general reaction
Not running, not a candidate , can’t be impeached
So freaking what?
re: #132 Barefoot Grin
Merely a flesh wound.
re: #130 goddamnedfrank
Trump actually hand wrote that? Arghhhh. So embarrassing.
re: #131 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)
It also sounds weird, what with travel options surpassing shanks mare, to refer to a baby by its state of origin. Hawaii Baby Becomes Last Decent President.
Really blows my mind that the same crowd who told me growing up that you could hear satanic messages in rock music if you played it backward can’t seem to suss out what the President means by “do me a favor.”
— Daniel “parade balloon” Summers (@WFKARS) November 21, 2019
re: #136 goddamnedfrank
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You see this reply?
Maybe you should play one of his speeches backwards
— blaire with an e (@blairesided) November 21, 2019
re: #130 goddamnedfrank
It’s a minor point compared to the latest eruptions from the Marmalade Shartcannon, but WTF is with official “Aboard Air Force One” stationery?
Way too many parts of the system are designed to make a US president into at least a demigod.
538’s average on impeachment polling has three averages:
On whether to begin the impeachment process (which has already begun, but they began tracking this in March): Support 51%, Don’t Support 44.4%.
On whether to impeach and remove: Support 46.5%, Don’t Support 45.5%
All polls combined: Support 47.4%, Don’t Support 45.6%
In spite of all that has been revealed since the inquiry began, the needle hasn’t moved much. In fact, it has trended slightly towards “Don’t support.”
What will it take?
What a day!
Evening Lizards:
Governor @DevalPatrick was supposed to have an event at Morehouse College tonight. An organizer with the college who planned the event told CNN that Patrick cancelled the event when he arrived and learned that he would not have an audience. (Note, two people came, not pictured) pic.twitter.com/CzNjWYcWKJ
— Annie Grayer (@AnnieGrayerCNN) November 21, 2019
Time to drop out, Bro.
running for the presidency is a humbling experience, @MartinOMalley once told me about an event he attended in Iowa were ONE person showed up https://t.co/dPv31ZpQNp
— Sam Stein (@samstein) November 21, 2019
Is Tulsi REALLY wearing her white science fiction dictator suit again? Does she only shop at the Cobra pop-up store?
— Gay and Bad 🏳️🌈🙄 (@SJGrunewald) November 21, 2019
re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Horrendous news about Prince Andrew’s car crash next month.#PrinceAndrew
— Treasaigh (@T_Soprano7) November 20, 2019
Next on the agenda: The South Korean nuke.
Reminder: 36K Americans — plus countless ROKs & UN personnel — died to keep South Korea free, and hundreds of thousands of Americans have served there since 1953 to keep the peace.
Donnie’s on the edge of throwing that all away.
We deserve an answer.https://t.co/2DhNhvs5mB— John Schindler (@20committee) November 21, 2019
re: #141 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)
What a day!
Evening Lizards:
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We can only hope Bloomberg experiences the same thing.
Would have been nice if Joy Reid was one of the moderators because she’s willing to go right to the heart of the matter!
re: #145 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Next on the agenda: The South Korean nuke.
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My husband served during the Korean War, as a Lt. in the Navy, intelligence. I would have had to hold him down if he heard this. I am just horrified. All those people in SK that are our allies, our work partners, just suddenly being shaken down and endangered right out in the open, and no one saying anything!! GAH! I can’t scream loud enough!!
An important question for Democrats tonight at the #DemDebate is ‘what’s your plan to beat an incumbent president who’s an aspiring authoritarian and has already proven he’ll cheat to win?’
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 21, 2019
re: #97 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Do tell! Please.
Here it is. Shorter version. Magnificent.
“That’s not anti-corruption, that is corruption”
Adam Schiff is really good at this pic.twitter.com/7pd817xGoZ— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) November 21, 2019
I will use this font forever
Donald Trump’s Crazy Handwriting Is Now A Free Font Called Tiny Hand https://t.co/TShR1sjLaw— Carlos Sagan - one with great and unmatched wisdom (@RealCarlosSagan) November 21, 2019
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