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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 25, 2019 • 6:46:34pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 25, 2019 • 6:47:49pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 25, 2019 • 6:53:11pm

The earlier two tweets

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gocart mozart  Nov 25, 2019 • 7:06:05pm

This was published in May 2019

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gocart mozart  Nov 25, 2019 • 7:30:07pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 25, 2019 • 7:38:22pm
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Belafon  Nov 25, 2019 • 7:39:57pm
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Belafon  Nov 25, 2019 • 7:42:02pm

re: #7 Belafon

Reload

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gocart mozart  Nov 25, 2019 • 7:44:15pm

I can’t stop playing this.

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Belafon  Nov 25, 2019 • 7:48:37pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:00:20pm

Getting ready for the annual cub scout cake auction with grandson number 1.

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gocart mozart  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:00:25pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:01:16pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:02:01pm
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:02:06pm

Here’s how it’s done

ALL WORK AND NO PLAY - VAN MORRISON

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:04:49pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:05:04pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:05:04pm

Been expecting this, and here it is:
Feral hogs in Texas attacked and killed a woman outside a home

A Texas woman was found dead after pre-dawn attack by a group of feral hogs outside a home, the Chambers County sheriff said.

Christine Rollins, a 59-year old caregiver to an elderly couple in Anahuac, failed to show up at her normal time on Sunday, the sheriff’s office said. The 84-year-old homeowner found her lying in the front yard between her car and the house.
Sheriff Brian Hawthorne said in a news conference Monday that “multiple hogs” assaulted Rollins when she arrived at work, likely between 6 and 6:30 a.m., when it was still dark outside.
“In my 35 years, I will tell you it’s one of the worst things I’ve ever seen,” Hawthorne told reporters.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:11:59pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:13:42pm

re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hello my Baby
 spaceballs edition! :)

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Teukka  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:15:41pm

re: #20 The Pie Overlord!

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I like this version better:

Alien Chestburster Goes Looney

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:17:04pm

Youtube seems to be really upping the commercials, at least on videos the channel owner have designated that they want monetized.

Some of the vids I’m watching the past couple of days, on youtube channels I’ve viewed before, are giving me a couple of advertisements every 5 minutes or so. The adverts are the short ones (5 or 10 seconds), but damn, they interrupt the program so much it is now onerous.

And of course the channels that choose to not monetize will be shuffled off the search results by the Youtube search engine.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:21:18pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Been expecting this, and here it is:
Feral hogs in Texas attacked and killed a woman outside a home

This is getting to be more and more like a science fiction “nature’s revenge” monster movie every day. Game wardens and state troopers hunt them with machine guns and from helicopters, the state has authorized the use of poison and lethal traps, and they are considering explosives. There are a million licensed hunters in Texas who can go after them with no limit and no season. Yet the hogs still multiply and expand their range every day. They are the toughest and smartest game animals in the world, and increasingly dangerous. I’ve noticed that they seem to be losing their fear of humans and are harder and harder to simply frighten away.

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mmmirele  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:22:27pm

re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That looks like Shin Godzilla’s first form (not shown in the 2016 movie).

On a completely different subject, the large religious university in eastern Idaho that told students Medicaid did not count for insurance, but boy howdy, their really bad insurance offered by the university itself (which doesn’t meet ACA standards) does, reverses course and “apologizes for community turmoil.” It took the New York Times writing a piece headlined “University to Students on Medicaid: Buy Private Coverage, or Drop Out” to get BYU Idaho’s attention.

REXBURG — Brigham Young University-Idaho has reversed its decision to reject Medicaid as a waiver to its Student Health Plan.

The university issued a statement and an apology for the turmoil the decision caused in a campus-wide email Monday night. University spokesman Brett Crandall confirmed the email, but declined to comment further.

“We have decided that Medicaid, as it has in previous years, will meet the health coverage requirement at BYU-Idaho,” the email says.

The email goes on to say that because of its limited capacity and scope of services, the Student Health Center will continue not serving as a Medicaid service provider.

“The well-being of our students and their families is very important to us,” the notice said. “We are grateful for the feedback we have received from our campus community and for the input of the local medical community. We apologize for the turmoil caused by our earlier decision.”

eastidahonews.com

This was a particular slam because Idaho is expanding Medicaid and many poor young families which go to BYU Idaho will likely qualify for the expansion. It’s still unclear why BYU Idaho was being such shitheels about it, unless they really expected people to sign up for their truly shitty health insurance.

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gocart mozart  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:32:00pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:32:18pm

re: #23 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Because a healthy sow can have a huge farrow, the population will grow rapidly. And our modern treatment of the landscape gives the swine plenty of food. And we no longer have natural predators, which in the case of swine (back in Eurasia) would be large felids or pack of wolves.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:32:54pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:33:03pm

Feral piglet on a rampage. Now imagine this guy weighing 400 pounds. This is why it is no solution to give hunting rights to suburban slob hunters. The hogs will kick their asses.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:37:03pm

This is methed up:

A brother and sister were chased, tackled and arrested by police after a sibling squabble over who got to ride shotgun took a violent turn. Bret and Brianna Brezenski are facing charges of simple assault and resisting arrest after the bizarre incident over the weekend in Olyphant, Pennsylvania.

Police said the fight began when Bret, 27, was picking up his 20-year-old sister Brianna from work, and the younger Brezenski got angry that her brother’s girlfriend was in the passenger seat.

dailymail.co.uk

No word if they are planning to move to Florida.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:48:23pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 25, 2019 • 8:53:16pm

80 years ago:

The Finns put up a hell of a fight, inflicting a monstrous 250,000 casualties on the Soviets but they finally had to agree to an unfavorable armistice after 4 months. A little over a year later, they made the fateful decision to join Nazi Germany’s invasion of the Soviet Union in an effort to recoup their losses.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 25, 2019 • 9:14:47pm

Hey, looks whose getting in on the anti-vax grift now:

The MAGAs, of course, eat this shit up.

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Teukka  Nov 25, 2019 • 9:18:22pm

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

80 years ago:

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The Finns put up a hell of a fight, inflicting a monstrous 250,000 casualties on the Soviets but they finally had to agree to an unfavorable armistice after 4 months. A little over a year later, they made the fateful decision to join Nazi Germany’s invasion of the Soviet Union in an effort to recoup their losses.

And we paid for it. And people wonder why I, as a Finn, am very touchy about fascism


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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 25, 2019 • 9:19:25pm

re: #32 Ace-o-aces

Hey, looks whose getting in on the anti-vax grift now:

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Tell that to Shannon the girl in my second grade class who died from measles or Maddie who was blinded by measles.

I remember being bedridden for 3 weeks, so weak it was a struggle to get up to go to the bathroom. Mom wouldn’t leave my side


FUCK THESE ANTI-VAXXERS AND RFK JR CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF!

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 25, 2019 • 9:19:26pm

re: #14 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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It’s true.
But it’s also fatalistic.
Many of the peeps I follow on Twitter are African-American and they say this often, with good reason. But I’ve seen some of them putting down white fragility and saying “I’m alright, Jack!” in so many words.

I just think of those blacks and other minorities who are disabled or disadvantaged or forced to deal with the court system, and then smug is not a good thing to be.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 25, 2019 • 9:24:25pm

Night people.

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uriel  Nov 25, 2019 • 9:24:31pm

re: #24 mmmirele

This was a particular slam because Idaho is expanding Medicaid and many poor young families which go to BYU Idaho will likely qualify for the expansion. It’s still unclear why BYU Idaho was being such shitheels about it, unless they really expected people to sign up for their truly shitty health insurance.

Oh it’s very easy to see why they did it.

The reason? “Obamady-bamady-BOOO! God has sent us his real chosen leader, and his name rhymes with Ritt Momney!”

(Although, I do admit, I’m pretty happy they got shamed into reversing course. This has been pissing me of all day.)

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Teukka  Nov 25, 2019 • 9:28:58pm

re: #32 Ace-o-aces

Hey, looks whose getting in on the anti-vax grift now:

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re: #34 Joe Bacon đŸŒč

Tell that to Shannon the girl in my second grade class who died from measles or Maddie who was blinded by measles.

I remember being bedridden for 3 weeks, so weak it was a struggle to get up to go to the bathroom. Mom wouldn’t leave my side


FUCK THESE ANTI-VAXXERS AND RFK JR CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF!

I remember getting Rubella and Measles with a spacing of two or three weeks or so as a kid (8-9 yrs). And I had it easy, was just sunk for two weeks a pop. Which figures with the recent science news that both give your immune system a kick in the cojones.

On a related note, if you have the possibility to take this years flu jab, please do. I has sampled this years flu, and found out the following equation:

psoriaticArthritis + flu = OW

This one goes for your muscles and joints pretty well, and is a sneaky bastard. First you get the nose drip and and a day later the throat ache, then you feel better, only to find out it followed you to the dark alley and knocked you over after yet another day. And I am still recovering from that virus (a little weak and tired, but mostly fine).

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uriel  Nov 25, 2019 • 9:41:26pm
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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 25, 2019 • 9:45:31pm

re: #38 Teukka

I was floored for almost all of March with flu that became double pneumonia and required me to go repeatedly to Kaiser for treatment. And having the flu with rheumatoid arthritis is hell because even your aches ache!

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William Lewis  Nov 25, 2019 • 9:54:10pm

re: #34 Joe Bacon đŸŒč

Tell that to Shannon the girl in my second grade class who died from measles or Maddie who was blinded by measles.

I remember being bedridden for 3 weeks, so weak it was a struggle to get up to go to the bathroom. Mom wouldn’t leave my side


FUCK THESE ANTI-VAXXERS AND RFK JR CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF!

In the mid 60’s some ineffective vaccines for measles got through. My sister’s hearing was messed up. Not deaf by any means but noticeably worse for it. I was left sterile by measles. OTOH, that lead to us adopting so I’ll count myself lucky that was all.

I can go to the cemetery in town and see the before and after of vaccines. Fuck anti-vaxxers with a rusty pitchfork.

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Teukka  Nov 25, 2019 • 9:55:12pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon đŸŒč

I was floored for almost all of March with flu that became double pneumonia and required me to go repeatedly to Kaiser for treatment. And having the flu with rheumatoid arthritis is hell because even your aches ache!

I know, right? Like, the floor in my apartment has ever so slight give, so if the Ibuprofen happened to have worn off entirely and mom walked across the floor
 Every damn step of hers felt something akin to someone pressing on a bruise, only in every muscle and joint.

And I experienced the joys of pneumonia as a complication of a flu a little over three years ago. And then a left-sided pleural empyema (fluid in the bag which contains the lung, I had 500 ml-ish) as a complication of the pneumonia, which sent me to the hospital for 12 days. Endured 2 chest drains and 5 or 6 PVC’s and a grand total of 51 days of penicillin either IV or orally (Mental note: IV Penicillin G, a.k.a. Benzylpenicillin, is not a vein irritant if given by syringe, it is an outright vein bully).

Oh, and I was on an immunosuppressant at the time, so yeah, I don’t think I need to relate what I feel about antivaxxers


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Dr Lizardo  Nov 25, 2019 • 10:01:08pm

re: #39 uriel

Mandating ANY vaccine is abominable. My God is sovereign gov’t is not my god. No one is guaranteed good health.

Sounds like Marilyn is stating that God works His mysterious ways through natural selection.

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mmmirele  Nov 25, 2019 • 10:15:44pm

re: #34 Joe Bacon đŸŒč

My mother missed a year of school due to measles and was mildly hard of hearing afterwards. She made for damn sure we got the measles vaccine. Measles was bad, but polio, in her mind, was just so much worse. That was something I got to hear about when I was a kid growing up in the 1960s.

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 25, 2019 • 10:19:48pm

re: #42 Teukka

I know, right? Like, the floor in my apartment has ever so slight give, so if the Ibuprofen happened to have worn off entirely and mom walked across the floor
 Every damn step of hers felt something akin to someone pressing on a bruise, only in every muscle and joint.

And I experienced the joys of pneumonia as a complication of a flu a little over three years ago. And then a left-sided pleural empyema (fluid in the bag which contains the lung, I had 500 ml-ish) as a complication of the pneumonia, which sent me to the hospital for 12 days. Endured 2 chest drains and 5 or 6 PVC’s and a grand total of 51 days of penicillin either IV or orally (Mental note: IV Penicillin G, a.k.a. Benzylpenicillin, is not a vein irritant if given by syringe, it is an outright vein bully).

Oh, and I was on an immunosuppressant at the time, so yeah, I don’t think I need to relate what I feel about antivaxxers


I’m on Pradaxa which means Advil, Naproxen and even aspirin or any other NSAID are no-nos and I have to fall back on weak Tylenol


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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 25, 2019 • 10:21:08pm

re: #44 mmmirele

My mother missed a year of school due to measles and was mildly hard of hearing afterwards. She made for damn sure we got the measles vaccine. Measles was bad, but polio, in her mind, was just so much worse. That was something I got to hear about when I was a kid growing up in the 1960s.

I remember the three Salk polio shots and they HURT LIKE HELL! Then we had to take the Sabin vaccines in 5th grade where they put a drop on a sugar cube.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 25, 2019 • 10:32:25pm

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Feral piglet on a rampage. Now imagine this guy weighing 400 pounds. This is why it is no solution to give hunting rights to suburban slob hunters. The hogs will kick their asses.

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Maybe that is a solution. Just not for the intended problem
 ;)

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 25, 2019 • 10:34:14pm

I thought I’d seen all the antique Griswold cast iron models ever made, but this $12K Lumberjack Waffle Griddle is new to me and crazy af!

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Belafon  Nov 25, 2019 • 10:39:19pm

re: #39 uriel

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Belafon  Nov 25, 2019 • 10:40:52pm

re: #32 Ace-o-aces

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Dread Pirate  Nov 25, 2019 • 10:44:04pm

Trump and Putin are double teaming Europe to act as independent countries instead of a union. This is totally coordinated. EU should start negotiating individual trade agreements with US states. Give US same back.

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Dread Pirate  Nov 25, 2019 • 10:55:12pm

Army translated. “Keep that dumb-fuck away from this.”

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Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2019 • 11:20:40pm

re: #52 Dread Pirate

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Army translated. “Keep that dumb-fuck away from this.”

Aside from securing loans and “investments” through shady uses of the WH, has Jared had any success so far that indicates he could successfully find his ass even with a map?

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Teukka  Nov 25, 2019 • 11:21:36pm

re: #45 Joe Bacon đŸŒč

I’m on Pradaxa which means Advil, Naproxen and even aspirin or any other NSAID are no-nos and I have to fall back on weak Tylenol


Ooof.

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Dread Pirate  Nov 25, 2019 • 11:21:44pm

re: #53 Targetpractice

Aside from securing loans and “investments” through shady uses of the WH, has Jared had any success so far that indicates he could successfully find his ass even with a map?

That’s rhetorical, right?

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Targetpractice  Nov 25, 2019 • 11:23:55pm

re: #55 Dread Pirate

That’s rhetorical, right?

Of course.

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Teukka  Nov 25, 2019 • 11:23:57pm

re: #51 Dread Pirate

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Trump and Putin are double teaming Europe to act as independent countries instead of a union. This is totally coordinated. EU should start negotiating individual trade agreements with US states. Give US same back.

As €trash, I approve of this idea.

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uriel  Nov 25, 2019 • 11:53:28pm

I just got a recommendation on twitter to follow duckduckgo on twitter.

Why the hell would I want to follow a search engine on twitter?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 25, 2019 • 11:58:09pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:00:41am
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Dread Pirate  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:21:30am

re: #60 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Give the bag to bozo

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Dread Pirate  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:31:33am

I just found my second cannabis seed in a bud this month. I labeled the seeds this time so I’ll know the strains of my plants. I now have a Cherry OG, and a West Coast Sunrise - Whyte Rapid seed for spring planting. (WCS=growers. I think all of their strains are a crossbreed of Miracle Alien Cookies) I’m still going to buy 2 clones in the spring to be sure I have 2 female plants.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:53:28am

OMG. It’s spreading. I can’t take it anymore. Joe Walsh. Bill Kristal. And now Piers Morgan? Seriously, which way is up?

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Dread Pirate  Nov 26, 2019 • 2:17:58am
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Dread Pirate  Nov 26, 2019 • 2:26:51am
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Dread Pirate  Nov 26, 2019 • 2:28:36am

I think he suing Adam too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 2:36:38am

re: #60 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Yeah FNC but Obama was a narcissist because he said I.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 3:04:25am

re: #31 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

80 years ago:

The Finns put up a hell of a fight, inflicting a monstrous 250,000 casualties on the Soviets but they finally had to agree to an unfavorable armistice after 4 months. A little over a year later, they made the fateful decision to join Nazi Germany’s invasion of the Soviet Union in an effort to recoup their losses.

In 1939, the Red Army was larger than the entire population of Finland


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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 3:05:45am

re: #33 Teukka

And we paid for it. And people wonder why I, as a Finn, am very touchy about fascism


The “Continuation War” (1941-45) is a touchy issue; on the one hand, you were simply fighting to regain lost territory, on the other hand, you were allied with Nazi Germany


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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 3:07:16am

re: #52 Dread Pirate

Kushner has begun convening biweekly meetings on wall, getting involved in eminent domain and pushing officials to expedite construction ahead of November. That has concerned Army Corps officials and others who say he knows little & laws must be followed.

The military should have learned by now that Orders from the CinC supersede laws.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 3:42:37am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 3:44:03am

In which 36% of Americans show they are either incredibly gullible or just fucking stupid.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 4:30:27am
Dallas Morning News: “In a bizarre political blunder, a document laying out the Republican Party of Texas’s election strategy for the 2020 elections has ended up in the hands of Texas Democrats. Attacking Democratic candidates through websites and mitigating ‘the polarizing nature’ of President Trump are part of the plan.”

my favorite ‘strategy’ is in the last para re: straight ticket voting


the plan details an effort to convince Republican voters to vote for GOP candidates all the way down the ballot manually through a tagline. Some of the potential taglines include: “Vote Right All the Way Down!” “Vote Right To The Bottom!” and “Vote RIGHT Down the Ballot!”

they sure got that ‘right’

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 4:54:21am

re: #32 Ace-o-aces

Hey, looks whose getting in on the anti-vax grift now:

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if you can come up with a scientific reason why a particular vaccine may be be problematic, have at it.

science and medicine will adjust.

“no vaccine should be mandatory” is an opinion. based on nothing

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 4:56:04am

re: #74 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

if you can come up with a scientific reason why a particular vaccine may be be problematic, have at it.

science and medicine will adjust.

“no vaccine should be mandatory” is an opinion. based on nothing

as long as you are willing to live in isolation

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 4:59:06am

re: #44 mmmirele

My mother missed a year of school due to measles and was mildly hard of hearing afterwards. She made for damn sure we got the measles vaccine. Measles was bad, but polio, in her mind, was just so much worse. That was something I got to hear about when I was a kid growing up in the 1960s.

these people dont understand because they live in a post world
they have no idea what it was like or what these things did to do people

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:02:20am

re: #76 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

these people dont understand because they live in a post world
they have no idea what it was like or what these things did to do people

antivaxx is also a place where the echo chamber reaches from one end of the spectrum to the other: on one side, the anti-western science, anti-big pharma naturalist healing types and on the other side, the anti-modern science, anti-gig government wingnuts.

The two sets of pseudo-arguments are mutually enhancing and have led to such a critical mass of idiocy that is threatening people’s health and even their lives.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:05:09am

re: #50 Belafon

how do you feel about malaria or plague?
you know, mosquitoes and fleas. .:. not contagious

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:07:04am

re: #51 Dread Pirate

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Trump and Putin are double teaming Europe to act as independent countries instead of a union. This is totally coordinated. EU should start negotiating individual trade agreements with US states. Give US same back.

if we”ve learned anything it’s how fast one individual, yes with a little senate help, can destroy so much so quickly. not even one full presidential term

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:08:43am

re: #60 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

sure, they could have done a 62 1/2 years coin or some such nonsense

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steve_davis  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:15:06am

re: #59 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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re: #59 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Hey, Pence is only allowed to be in the room with the dog because another person is in there to help him resist temptation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:27:16am

re: #81 steve_davis

Hey, Pence is only allowed to be in the room with the dog because another person is in there to help him resist temptation.

Now come on, it is not about resisting temptation, it is about avoiding anything that could create the impression of impropriety and lead to a smear campaign.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:30:33am

Fox News is blowing their wad this morning because they’ve managed to find a single House Democrat who is not gung ho about Impeachment and is hoping she can convince all her Demcoratic buddies to abandon the whole thing.

The congressperson in question is Michigan rep Brenda Lawrence.

Apparently Fox fails to realize that Trump can still be Impeached even if not every single Democrat in the house is on board for it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:32:18am

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox News is blowing their wad this morning because they’ve managed to find a single House Democrat who is not gung ho about Impeachment and is hoping she can convince all her Demcoratic buddies to abandon the whole thing.

The congressperson in question is Michigan rep Brenda Lawrence.

Apparently Fox fails to realize that Trump can still be Impeached even if not every single Democrat in the house is on board for it.

Have they found some blacks and Latinos who support Trump as well?

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:33:18am

Good morning!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:36:45am

re: #85 jeffreyw

Looks like you got a nice day there, friend.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:37:54am

re: #80 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

sure, they could have done a 62 1/2 years coin or some such nonsense

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It really amazes me how he manages to be both unintelligent and narcissistic as hell at the same time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:38:50am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

It really amazes me how he manages to be both unintelligent and narcissistic as hell at the same time.

proof that he is not at all misogynistic

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:39:07am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

It really amazes me how he manages to be both unintelligent and narcissistic as hell at the same time.

If he hadn’t been born into a wealthy family he’d be screaming on a street corner right now
or be institutionalized.

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ColĂšre Tueur de Lapin  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:40:30am

re: #32 Ace-o-aces

Pretty sure HPV is contagious. And when I say pretty sure, that’s a euphemism that there is no question.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:43:33am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

proof that he is not at all misogynistic

Nah it’s the whole patting himself on the back for a centennial coin and acting like no one else would have done this.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:44:24am

re: #89 Eclectic Cyborg

If he hadn’t been born into a wealthy family he’d be screaming on a street corner right now
or be institutionalized.

He quite honestly is the most ignorant person I’ve ever seen in elected office.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:45:30am

re: #92 HappyWarrior

He quite honestly is one of the most ignorant people I’ve ever seen in elected office.

If you want to be honest, he’s simply one of the most ignorant people around. With everything he has been given (gifted) throughout his life, he’s ignorant about almost everything.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:51:29am

re: #93 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If you want to be honest, he’s simply one of the most ignorant people around. With everything he has been given (gifted) throughout his life, he’s ignorant about almost everything.

For sure. And his ignorance in the WH along with his mindset is a dangerous combination.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:53:54am

I think I mentioned that I recently met a woman who works as a teacher at a military base on Okinawa whose activist mother regularly sends her $20 bills with Harriet Tubman’s face stamped over Andrew Jackson, just daring her to spend them


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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:55:17am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Go’auld? Goddamnit. When the physicists turned on the LHC, they actually activated a stargate.

And swapped us into a multiverse where the dumbest and most corrupt people are running this country.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:55:43am

The centennial coin is a lovely gesture but he’s acting like A) no one else would have done this, B) astonished it took 100 years after
suffrage a centennial coin was commissioned C) acting like a centennial coin was some great accomplishment of his. I’ve often said that Trump has to be the highest extreme. Everything is either the greatest ever or the worst. Examples of the former include the economy, military, etc under him and the latter how he’s been treated. This guy isn’t insightful at all. And I hate to armchair psychologist but a narcissistic dipshit whose worst instincts are constantly enabled.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:56:49am

re: #97 HappyWarrior

“97% of all Trump coverage is negative” because anything that is not fawning, unquestioning praise is automatically “negative”


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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 5:59:28am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think I mentioned that I recently met a woman who works as a teacher at a military base on Okinawa whose activist mother regularly sends her $20 bills with Harriet Tubman’s face stamped over Andrew Jackson, just daring her to spend them


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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:00:27am

that is exactly the point, and she is living in a rather closed military community where things would be easily traced

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:01:33am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“97% of all Trump coverage is negative” because anything that is not fawning, unquestioning praise is automatically “negative”


And, you know, Trump just does a lot of stuff that pisses people off.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:01:44am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“97% of all Trump coverage is negative” because anything that is not fawning, unquestioning praise is automatically “negative”


And that’s the fucking problem. He can’t take any criticism. He watches only news that treats him like a savior. He literally has an Energy Secretary saying he was divinely ordained. If James I was the King who made the divine rule of Kings in England famous, Trump believes the same for Presidents. He also never ever acknowledges that he wasn’t exactly elected in a landslide and calls himself “your favorite president.” He has an 16th century absolute monarch’s combined with a 21st century person who knows nothing about the presidency’s understanding of the oval office

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:03:08am

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

And, you know, Trump just does a lot of stuff that pisses people off.

And Trump thinks he’s done nothing wrong. He gets babied by the fact that Congressional Republicans rightfully see him as a moron but instead of standing up to him, they enable him.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:03:19am

Just one day of normalcy. That’s all I fucking ask. One fucking day. Hopefully this turns out to be nothing, but hope everyone stays safe there.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:03:24am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

And that’s the fucking problem. He can’t take any criticism. He watches only news that treats him like a savior. He literally has an Energy Secretary saying he was divinely ordained. If James I was the King who made the divine rule of Kings in England famous, Trump believes the same for Presidents. He also never ever acknowledges that he wasn’t exactly elected in a landslide and calls himself “your favorite president.” He has an 16th century absolute monarch’s combined with a 21st century person who knows nothing about the presidency’s understanding of the oval office

He favors the Kim Jong Un model of leadership.

Worship me, peasants! 
. or else.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:03:51am

re: #104 lawhawk

Jesus.

Yeah, let’s hope for confused pilot on this one.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:05:09am

re: #105 Eclectic Cyborg

He favors the Kim Jong Un model of leadership.

Worship me, peasants! 
. or else.

I have seen nothing from him that shows he has a moral problem with dictatorships and autocratic behavior. I have seen he disdain democracy and limited power. His allies are all dictators or dictator aspirants.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:09:31am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

And Trump thinks he’s done nothing wrong. He gets babied by the fact that Congressional Republicans rightfully see him as a moron but instead of standing up to him, they enable him.

In the end, I think the whistleblower might have refrained if Trump had not been so blatantly heavy-handed about the quid pro quo with Ukraine.

He could have easily built some layers of deniability into it, simply asking Ukraine to step up its investigations of corruption and perhaps mentioning that the Bidens might be worth looking into, etc, but he just just lean on Zelinsky like a mafia heavy.

Professional diplomats could not just sit idly by and watch him make such a mockery of diplomacy and so egregiously abuse his influence.

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sagehen  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:13:03am

re: #96 lawhawk

Go’auld? Goddamnit. When the physicists turned on the LHC, they actually activated a stargate.

And swapped us into a multiverse where the dumbest and most corrupt people are running this country.

Rodney McKay has never in his life been more grateful to be Canadian.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:13:21am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In the end, I think the whistleblower might have refrained if Trump had not been so blatantly heavy-handed about the quid pro quo with Ukraine.

He could have easily built some layers of deniability into it, simply asking Ukraine to step up its investigations of corruption and perhaps mentioning that the Bidens might be worth looking into, etc, but he just just lean on Zelinsky like a mafia heavy.

Professional diplomats could not just sit idly by and watch him make such a mockery of diplomacy and so egregiously abuse his influence.

I dunno. I think the idea he cared about nepotism and corruption from the start was laughable. He again though provides the rope though. Trumpers should realize that he’s actually impeding their agenda by being a moron who only cares about him himself but Trumpers are even stupider than he is since they think “triggered libs” is good policy.

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:16:03am

re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg

Looks like you got a nice day there, friend.

It was a nice day yesterday. Weather report says 59 and cloudy today, chance of shower with t-storms tonight.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:16:19am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

I dunno. I think the idea he cared about nepotism and corruption from the start was laughable. He again though provides the rope though. Trumpers should realize that he’s actually impeding their agenda by being a moron who only cares about him himself but Trumpers are even stupider than he is since they think “triggered libs” is good policy.

THIS.

I know plenty of right leaning people who are like “If whatever Trump does pisses off Democrats, I support it.”

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sagehen  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:16:29am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

And Trump thinks he’s done nothing wrong. He gets babied by the fact that Congressional Republicans rightfully see him as a moron but instead of standing up to him, they enable him.

Remember in 2012 Grover Norquist said they didn’t need a president to have any ideas or policies? “We just want someone with enough working fingers to hold a pen, Republicans in Congress can do everything else.”

That’s what they got. And they’re pretty damn pleased with it.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:17:02am

re: #109 sagehen

Lt. Col. Cameron Mitchell and Vala would approve.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:17:48am

re: #51 Dread Pirate

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Trump and Putin are double teaming Europe to act as independent countries instead of a union. This is totally coordinated. EU should start negotiating individual trade agreements with US states. Give US same back.

Someone from Europe needs to say “We have studied US history. It was the attempt by the British to negotiate with each US state individually that showed how weak the Articles of Confederation were, and that they needed to stand together in order to truly withstand outside interference.”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:17:53am

Morning Lizards say hi to the newest family member.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:19:09am

The challenge the next Democrat faces is prioritizing cleaning up Trump’s messes. He/she won’t be able to clean all them up and I guess what upsets me is time and time again a Democratic President has a difficult time pursuing an agenda since it’s cleaning up old messes. Carter had to restore faith in the Oval Office after Watergate, Clinton had to clean up the stupidity that was Reaganomics, & Obama had to fix the country’s image after Bush abroad. Republicans often make messes and Democrats get stuck cleaning them up and then the electorate is either too impatient or gets amnesia about the causes of these messes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:20:57am

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

THIS.

I know plenty of right leaning people who are like “If whatever Trump does pisses off Democrats, I support it.”

It’s so juvenile and it tests my faith in democracy. But ultimately my belief is one man, one vote, we all should be able to have a say what happens from a grade school dropout to a person with multiple doctorates.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:23:52am

re: #115 Belafon

Someone from Europe needs to say “We have studied US history. It was the attempt by the British to negotiate with each US state individually that showed how weak the Articles of Confederation were, and that they needed to stand together in order to truly withstand outside interference.”

You can go back to the world wars. Putin knows of the tribalism that caused WWI/II. Trump if he knows Sarajevo if at all is probably because he got a property there but does he know anything of the ugly nationalism that fueled two bloody wars and indirectly the Cold War and war on terrorism? Nope.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:31:04am

re: #38 Teukka

I remember getting Rubella and Measles with a spacing of two or three weeks or so as a kid (8-9 yrs). And I had it easy, was just sunk for two weeks a pop. Which figures with the recent science news that both give your immune system a kick in the cojones.

On a related note, if you have the possibility to take this years flu jab, please do. I has sampled this years flu, and found out the following equation:

psoriaticArthritis + flu = OW

This one goes for your muscles and joints pretty well, and is a sneaky bastard. First you get the nose drip and and a day later the throat ache, then you feel better, only to find out it followed you to the dark alley and knocked you over after yet another day. And I am still recovering from that virus (a little weak and tired, but mostly fine).

I had my annual flu shot yesterday! My arm was itchy and now it’s kinda tender around the injection but flu sucks harder so this vaccine will kick its ass.

My grandpa died 101 years ago in the Spanish Flu pandemic. He was 28 years old.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:31:13am

re: #119 HappyWarrior

You can go back to the world wars. Putin knows of the tribalism that caused WWI/II. Trump if he knows Sarajevo if at all is probably because he got a property there but does he know anything of the ugly nationalism that fueled two bloody wars and indirectly the Cold War and war on terrorism? Nope.

Understood. But the EU is sticking together, and a poke at an ignorant US president would be great.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:33:32am

re: #93 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If you want to be honest, he’s simply one of the most ignorant people around. With everything he has been given (gifted) throughout his life, he’s ignorant about almost everything.

Ignorance, to me, is more than just lack of knowledge.
It implies (imo) that it can be fixed simply by exercising the ability to learn

He and his sycophant followers have demonstrated they cannot learn.
they are not capable

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Sir John Barron  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:34:26am

re: #104 lawhawk

Just one day of normalcy. That’s all I fucking ask. One fucking day. Hopefully this turns out to be nothing, but hope everyone stays safe there.

On a Tuesday during Infrastructure Week? Surely you jest.

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:35:27am

On the one hand, NATO is long due to be revised, as its original mission, namely serving as a counterweight to the Warsaw Pact, is long outdated.

But disbanding it wholesale is not the answer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:36:07am

OT.

Most of you know my cat Eisley. For reference, this is her:

Anyway, she’s primarily an outdoor cat but I do bring her inside at times, especially when it’s pretty cold outside. She usually gets along well with the dogs and is not even that destructive with any of the furniture or fabrics in the house. Basically, she’s pretty chill for the most part.

But some some weird reason when I brought her in last night she was growling a bit and acting quite aggressively, at least towards me. Once, when I picked her up, she took a swipe at me which is something she RARELY does. She still didn’t bother the dogs or tear up anything in the house. When I went out to feed her this morning, she seemed her normal self again.

There was nothing out of the ordinary going on at the house last night, the only people there were people she is used to. I honestly have no idea what set her off. Any other overlord owners had things like this happen?

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:36:41am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“97% of all Trump coverage is negative” because anything that is not fawning, unquestioning praise is automatically “negative”


Well because 97% of what he does is negative
(ETTD)

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Sir John Barron  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:36:46am

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox News is blowing their wad this morning because they’ve managed to find a single House Democrat who is not gung ho about Impeachment and is hoping she can convince all her Demcoratic buddies to abandon the whole thing.

The congressperson in question is Michigan rep Brenda Lawrence.

Apparently Fox fails to realize that Trump can still be Impeached even if not every single Democrat in the house is on board for it.

YOU CANT IMPEACH WITHOUT EVERY DEM! CHECKMATE LIBTARDS!

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Sir John Barron  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:37:50am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“97% of all Trump coverage is negative” because anything that is not fawning, unquestioning praise is automatically “negative”


So, wingnuts control all of talk radio, Faux News is the most watched cable news station, and still, somehow, 97% of DrumpF coverage is negative?

/

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:38:05am
130
The Pie Overlord!  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:41:07am

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox News is blowing their wad this morning because they’ve managed to find a single House Democrat who is not gung ho about Impeachment and is hoping she can convince all her Demcoratic buddies to abandon the whole thing.

The congressperson in question is Michigan rep Brenda Lawrence.

Apparently Fox fails to realize that Trump can still be Impeached even if not every single Democrat in the house is on board for it.

Brenda Lawrence is the rep for my district.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:42:49am

re: #125 Eclectic Cyborg

OT.

Most of you know my cat Eisley. For reference, this is her:

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Anyway, she’s primarily an outdoor cat but I do bring her inside at times, especially when it’s pretty cold outside. She usually gets along well with the dogs and is not even that destructive with any of the furniture or fabrics in the house. Basically, she’s pretty chill for the most part.

But some some weird reason when I brought her in last night she was growling a bit and acting quite aggressively, at least towards me. Once, when I picked her up, she took a swipe at me which is something she RARELY does. She still didn’t bother the dogs or tear up anything in the house. When I went out to feed her this morning, she seemed her normal self again.

There was nothing out of the ordinary going on at the house last night, the only people there were people she is used to. I honestly have no idea what set her off. Any other overlord owners had things like this happen?

We are cats
We do what we want

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:45:29am

re: #116 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Morning Lizards say hi to the newest family member.

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Congrats!! Adorable!!

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:47:03am
GOP leaders in the Kentucky legislature are pushing a bill that would effectively remove Democratic Gov.-elect Andy Beshear’s control over the state’s Department of Transportation, the latest move in an accelerating trend of Republicans stripping power from Democratic governors before they can take office.

The legislation would limit the governor to nominating a transportation secretary from a list chosen by a new a board whose nine members would be selected by the Kentucky Chamber of Commerce and local government associations, with those members subject to a veto by the Republican-run legislature. Lawmakers would also have veto power over Beshear’s nominee, making this the only cabinet position in the state requiring Senate confirmation.

m.dailykos.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:47:05am

re: #128 Sir John Barron

So, wingnuts control all of talk radio, Faux News is the most watched cable news station, and still, somehow, 97% of DrumpF coverage is negative?

/

Because the Mainstream Media is controlled by (cosmopolitans).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:47:25am

re: #121 Belafon

Understood. But the EU is sticking together, and a poke at an ignorant US president would be great.

Well the E.U. will stick together as long as it’s member nations continue to elect reasonable minded men and women.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:47:48am

re: #130 The Pie Overlord!

Brenda Lawrence is the rep for my district.

Is she susceptible to calls from her constituents? My rep supported impeachment before Ukraine and we thought it was late in the game.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:48:30am

re: #133 Belafon

m.dailykos.com

They always do this now. See North Carolina. Lose a close election, restrict power to the Democratic successor. They’ll try to the same thing nationally after Trump.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:49:50am

re: #136 Hecuba’s daughter

Is she susceptible to calls from her constituents? My rep supported impeachment before Ukraine and we thought it was late in the game.

They need to hear from their constituents daily. They need to know that it is supported by the people that elect them. That is the only way things will change.

Even hard core wingnuts need to hear it. If we give up, they win.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:50:13am

re: #136 Hecuba’s daughter

Is she susceptible to calls from her constituents? My rep supported impeachment before Ukraine and we thought it was late in the game.

She is going to hear from me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:50:27am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

They always do this now. See North Carolina. Lose a close election, restrict power to the Democratic successor. They’ll try to the same thing nationally after Trump.

Or make sure that the damage they do is permanent or at least very difficult to reverse. As with judicial appointments


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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:51:02am

re: #73 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

my favorite ‘strategy’ is in the last para re: straight ticket voting

they sure got that ‘right’

three really good disqus comments related to this posted at politicalwire.com:

- what a positive agenda. all those policy proposals to improve the lives of Texans.” //

- “So behind closed doors they admit Trump is the one polarizing the US.”

and finally (edited a tad):

The republican party’s strategy for winning elections hasn’t changed in decades



NO to the Theory of Evolution, YES to creationism
NO to immigration reform, YES to mass deportations
NO to Roe v Wade, YES to a reproductive police state
NO to consumer protections, YES to corporate criminals

NO to LGBTQ rights, YES to homophobia and gay apartheid
NO to environmental protections, YES to protecting corporate profits
NO to social assistance programs, YES to socioeconomic Darwinism
NO to gun control, YES to firearms, gun mongers and the NRA

NO to prosecuting civil rights violations, YES to winking at white supremacy
NO to paying a fair day’s wage for an honest day’s work, YES to busting unions
NO to independent public schools, YES to taxpayer funding of DeVosian madrassas
NO to protecting the rights of minority voters, YES to subverting the electoral system

NO to Obamacare, YES to kicking tens of millions to the health care curb
NO to the separation of church and state, YES to attacking the Constitution and the Civil Rights Act to protect “religious freedom”

And the newest Gee-Oh-Pee campaign strategy


NO to protecting national security, YES to POTUS kowtowing to Putin

Your republican party

. Vote for us or burn in hell!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:51:56am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Or make sure that the damage they do is permanent or at least very difficult to reverse. As with judicial appointments


They’ve already started that.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:52:17am

re: #141 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

three really good disqus comments related to this posted at politicalwire.com:

- what a positive agenda. all those policy proposals to improve the lives of Texans.” //

- “So behind closed doors they admit Trump is the one polarizing the US.”

and finally (edited a tad):

The republican party’s strategy for winning elections hasn’t changed in decades



NO to the Theory of Evolution, YES to creationism
NO to immigration reform, YES to mass deportations
NO to Roe v Wade, YES to a reproductive police state
NO to consumer protections, YES to corporate criminals

NO to LGBTQ rights, YES to homophobia and gay apartheid
NO to environmental protections, YES to protecting corporate profits
NO to social assistance programs, YES to socioeconomic Darwinism
NO to gun control, YES to firearms, gun mongers and the NRA

NO to prosecuting civil rights violations, YES to winking at white supremacy
NO to paying a fair day’s wage for an honest day’s work, YES to busting unions
NO to independent public schools, YES to taxpayer funding of DeVosian madrassas
NO to protecting the rights of minority voters, YES to subverting the electoral system

NO to Obamacare, YES to kicking tens of millions to the health care curb
NO to the separation of church and state, YES to attacking the Constitution and the Civil Rights Act to protect “religious freedom”

And the newest Gee-Oh-Pee campaign strategy


NO to protecting national security, YES to POTUS kowtowing to Putin

Your republican party

. Vote for us or burn in hell!

I want to steal that. Can I tweet it?

144
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:53:51am

re: #141 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

I really wish I could upding this more than once.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:54:26am

re: #141 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

that is an excellent summary of what the GOP is about these days

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Sir John Barron  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:54:39am

re: #133 Belafon

m.dailykos.com

What was that the GOP was whining about the other day about impeachment and congressional hearings being an example of “trying to overturn the result of an election”?

not sure if /

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:55:20am

re: #146 Sir John Barron

What was that the GOP was whining about the other day about impeachment and congressional hearings being an example of “trying to overturn the result of an election”?

not sure if /

This is different.//

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:57:06am

149
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 26, 2019 • 6:57:35am

Looks like the hearings had an effect. Support for impeachment, which had eroded a bit, took a big jump up to close to half, while opposition dropped. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Sir John Barron  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:00:47am

re: #147 HappyWarrior

NOT ILLEGAL! NOT A CRIME! GET OVER IT!

151
The Pie Overlord!  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:02:36am

re: #141 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

The republican party’s strategy for winning elections hasn’t changed in decades centuries



Your republican party

. Vote for us or burn in hell!

ftfy

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:03:00am

re: #149 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Looks like the hearings had an effect. Support for impeachment, which had eroded a bit, took a big jump up to close to half, while opposition dropped. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

We can all but bet on the Senate rejecting it, but then the message will be “Voters, get out there and do the job that the GOP Senate was too craven to finish!”

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:06:53am

re: #136 Hecuba’s daughter

Is she susceptible to calls from her constituents? My rep supported impeachment before Ukraine and we thought it was late in the game.

——-

As more impeachment polls come in, they’re undermining the Republican talking point that the numbers are moving against Democrats: 49% support impeaching and removing President Trump while 44% do not.

and

A new CNN poll finds 53% of Americans think that President Trump had used his office improperly, up from 49% in October, and 56% said Trump’s attempts to persuade Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter was more for personal benefit than to root out corruption.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:07:41am

re: #139 The Pie Overlord!

She is going to hear from me.

i wouldnt like to be on the other end of that tone ;-)

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:11:49am

re: #143 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I want to steal that. Can I tweet it?

i got it from this link

about a third of the way down the first page of comments from “dean barbour”

i dont know where he got it from but i’d go for it

i usually reference a ‘disqus comment’ so it’s clear i didnt write it and still it keeps the poster’s name out of it if i cant ask first directly

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:13:05am
A dog found keeping five kittens warm on the side of a road on a cold night in Canada was rescued and will soon be available for adoption.

Pet and Wildlife Rescue said an animal control officer picked up the family of six after a “good citizen” spotted them in mid-November and called the shelter in Chatham, Ontario.

I’d take them all. That’s a good puppy.
detroit.cbslocal.com

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:17:31am

re: #132 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Congrats!! Adorable!!

Thanks. We mainly got her to be an emotional support dog for my wife/spouse/partner/mate (yeah, we’re still working on a relationship definition) and I can honestly say I have seen a marked improvement in her outlook since Mini (ok, not so original or catchy) came into our lives 3 days ago.. It’s like someone has flipped a switch.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:22:39am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We can all but bet on the Senate rejecting it, but then the message will be “Voters, get out there and do the job that the GOP Senate was too craven to finish!”

i’ve been thinking about this for a little while and i think it’s time to start being more accurate regarding the senate ‘acquitting’, etc.

i’m using your comment as a springboard, but not pointing at you.

A senate ‘verdict’ is not ‘guilty / not guilty’ or worse any sense of ‘innocent / exoneration’.

the senate will vote to:
- remove from office or not
- and/ or disqualify from holding another future office
there is nothing more and nothing less.

there is no ‘acquittal’.

if the house votes by majority, the president is impeached. period. full stop.
for all time.
it doesnt go away. ever.

he will always be a member of a small and ignominious bunch.

further, by my math, if the house votes before 1/30/20, trump gets the record for fastest presidential impeachment from inauguration (ousting johnson)

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:25:16am

re: #157 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Thanks. We mainly got her to be an emotional support dog for my wife/spouse/partner/mate (yeah, we’re still working on a relationship definition) and I can honestly say I have seen a marked improvement in her outlook since Mini (ok, not so original or catchy) came into our lives 3 days ago.. It’s like someone has flipped a switch.

‘better half’ always works ;-)

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:28:33am
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sagehen  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:32:24am

re: #157 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

wife/spouse/partner/mate (yeah, we’re still working on a relationship definition)

Beloved
Inamorata
Significant Other

and if you want to get sappy


b’shaert

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:33:33am

re: #155 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:37:00am

weather.com
Outer Banks awash in sand. Now I don’t mind shoveling snow.
They just got cleaned up too.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:37:41am

re: #162 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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+1

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:39:00am

Senator John Kennedy admits Russia hacked the DNC emails.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:50:03am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The “Continuation War” (1941-45) is a touchy issue; on the one hand, you were simply fighting to regain lost territory, on the other hand, you were allied with Nazi Germany


They were using the Germans for war material to prosecute a war against the people who invaded them and stole their territory. Not really the same thing as what you saw with Italy and Japan who waged imperialist wars of aggression together with Germany and who both carried out horrifying crimes against humanity.

When it comes down to it, we had an alliance with convenience with Stalinist Russia, and Stalin was every bit as deranged and evil as Hitler. I don’t feel I have any room to judge the Finns, considering the company we were keeping

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Mescalero09  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:52:29am
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Jay C  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:58:35am

re: #137 HappyWarrior

They always do this now. See North Carolina. Lose a close election, restrict power to the Democratic successor. They’ll try to the same thing nationally after Trump.

Not sure that’s going to work on a “national” level - no matter what level of “blue wave” sweeps DC after the 2020 election, the last session of the 116th Congress that will be meeting will still have a Democratic-controlled House (with Nancy Pelosi still Speaker), and barring (God forbid) a “red wave” election, the same in the first session of the 117th (from 1/3/21). So the GOP’s capacity for fucking things up past-election is likely to be limited.
Though I’m sure Trump will do his best to leave as much of a mess behind as he can (mass pardons are likely to be the least of it).

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:58:46am
Tim Miller: “According to a report by MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle, Bolton said that he believes there is a ‘personal or business relationship dictating Trump’s position on Turkey.’”

“Wait what? The president’s former national security advisor suggested that the commander-in-chief made life or death national security decisions because of an active conflict of interest related to his business?”

“Even by the standards of Trumpian corruption, this is holy-motherforking-shirtballs level stuff.”*

“Bolton’s accusation, if accurate, would amount to the biggest scandal in the American presidency in half a century: The most senior security staffer, a man with unparalleled access to the president, believes that Trump acted in a way that is indistinguishable from double-dealing despots the world over.”

*kudos for the good place lingo

as for the GOP reaction: “so?”

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 26, 2019 • 7:59:39am

re: #167 Mescalero09

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Maybe the tRump’s need a little giraffe as a pet.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:01:32am

re: #169 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

kudos for the good place lingo

as for the GOP reaction: “so?”

Bolton’s still upset that Trump didn’t bomb Iran after the nice causa belli involving drones and limpet mines on tankers that was arranged for his benefit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:02:57am

re: #171 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Bolton’s still upset that Trump didn’t bomb Iran after the nice causa belli involving drones and limpet mines on tankers that was arranged for his benefit.

They are starting to turn on each other for not being ideologically pure or bellicose enough
and yes, there were business interests to consider

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:05:12am

current mood:

YouTube

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Mescalero09  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:06:14am

re: #170 Eventual Carrion

Maybe the tRump’s need a little giraffe as a pet.

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The spiders in his head count?

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:06:50am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are starting to turn on each other for not being ideologically pure or bellicose enough
and yes, there were business interests to consider

i dont care why as long as they do

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:09:11am

JFC

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Teukka  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:11:11am

Now for a word from one of my favorite series creators:

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:11:40am

If I see another “Hints & Tips For A Perfect Turkey” pop up in my browser one more time, I’m gonna make hot dogs for Thanksgiving. Or maybe pizza.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:13:13am

re: #177 Teukka

Now for a word from one of my favorite series creators:

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And Putin, laughing, spreads his wings.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:14:17am

re: #177 Teukka

Many consider Trump an illegitimate President, but also are not rioting in the streets or creating an armed insurrection.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:17:57am

Russia is an economic world power with more than TEN TIMES the population of Ukraine. They also have a President who happens to be a former intelligence officer.

Now, who do YOU think would more easily be able to pull off a wide scope hack of the 2016 election?

//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:18:12am

re: #180 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Many consider Trump an illegitimate President, but also are not rioting in the streets or creating an armed insurrection.

Yet.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:19:57am

Just because
.

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William Lewis  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:20:13am

re: #178 The Pie Overlord!

If I see another “Hints & Tips For A Perfect Turkey” pop up in my browser one more time, I’m gonna make hot dogs for Thanksgiving. Or maybe pizza.

I’m going to have my son over and he doesn’t like turkey. So I’ll be deep frying shrimp and french fries instead :D

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:21:44am

re: #26 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Because a healthy sow can have a huge farrow, the population will grow rapidly. And our modern treatment of the landscape gives the swine plenty of food. And we no longer have natural predators, which in the case of swine (back in Eurasia) would be large felids or pack of wolves.

Even a pack of wolves would have a problem with full-grown feral hogs. They are little tanks. Innards protected, low to the ground, nimble and intelligent.

There is a reason our Medieval forefathers hunted them from atop armored horses. Using 12-foot spears.

On the other hand, they ARE tasty.

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makeitstop  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:23:09am

Anybody got an update on that airspace violation? I’ve been in head-down mode with work all morning and missed it.

And in other news, Macy’s may ground the balloons in the Thanksgiving parade due to projected high winds. That would kinda remove the entire point of the parade, unless you’re a lover of lip-synced vocal performances from cheesy floats.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:24:55am

re: #159 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

re: #161 sagehen

Well actually, the issue (minor as it is) is in not so much as to what her place /description in our relationship is. She has been and will always be my Wife. After 34 years of marriage, that is not going to change (her words). It’s how do we now describe MY place in the relationship. Obviously, I can no longer be her “husband” and calling me her “wife” will get your head ripped off. We have more or less settled on partner for the time being.
All that being said, labels suck.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:25:13am

re: #185 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Warning: Dogs used for Hunting
;
 Fucking E. Texas

American Hoggers: Jerry Is Chased Out Of His Jeep by A Hog | A&E

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:25:37am

re: #187 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well actually, the issue (minor as it is) is in not so much as to what her place /description in our relationship is. She has been and will always be my Wife. After 34 years of marriage, that is not going to change (her words). It’s how do we now describe MY place in the relationship. Obviously, I can no longer be her “husband” and calling me her “wife” will get your head ripped off. We have more or less settled on partner for the time being.
All that being said, labels suck.

Spouse.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:27:32am

re: #176 The Pie Overlord!

I am fighting for future Presidents and the Office of the President.

Sure, Jan.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:28:06am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are starting to turn on each other for not being ideologically pure or bellicose enough
and yes, there were business interests to consider

As long as they ARE turning on each other, all I can say is
NOM NOM NOM! Eat away!

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:28:40am

re: #72 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

In which 36% of Americans show they are either incredibly gullible or just fucking stupid.

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No, they are not stupid nor gullible. They are evil.

They are evil specifically because they believe in and fight for white supremacism.

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:30:40am

Dershowitz is fucking insane.

Alan Dershowitz appears to have jumped on the “chosen one” bandwagon.

During a Monday night interview on Fox News host Laura Ingraham’s show, Dershowitz weighed in on a federal judge’s ruling that President Trump cannot block former White House Counsel Don McGahn from complying with a congressional subpoena.

After sarcastically saying that “the big winner is Uber, because McGahn will have to get into his car, he’s gonna have to go over to the Capitol, raise his hand, take an oath, and then he can invoke privilege,” Dershowitz argued that the ruling “has no substantive impact.”

Dershowitz then railed against U.S. District Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson of Washington whose decision is a boost for Democrats as they move forward with their impeachment inquiry into Trump.

“The judge went out of her way to say I’m not ruling on the issues of privilege, all I’m saying is he has to show up,” Dershowitz said, before arguing that “she went nuts talking about how the President’s not a king.”

“Of course the President’s not the king. The President’s far more powerful than the king,” Dershowitz said, echoing Trump’s August remark when he said that he was the “chosen one” meant to fix the U.S. economy and trade relations. “The President has the power that kings have never had.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:34:45am

re: #177 Teukka

J. Michael was prescient with some of his B5 storylines and commentary about human nature.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:36:12am

re: #177 Teukka

Now for a word from one of my favorite series creators:

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I think Trump will use Barr in some capacity to ratfvck the election results if he loses and declare the election invalid, and possibly try to bring criminal charges against whoever won.

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Jay C  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:37:33am

re: #186 makeitstop

Anybody got an update on that airspace violation? I’ve been in head-down mode with work all morning and missed it.

And in other news, Macy’s may ground the balloons in the Thanksgiving parade due to projected high winds. That would kinda remove the entire point of the parade, unless you’re a lover of lip-synced vocal performances from cheesy floats.

Not sure exactly who (NYC? Macy’s? NBC?) carries the liability insurance on the Thanksgiving parade, but I’m sure the disappointment over lack-of-balloons has been costed out as being way cheaper than the possible liability for injuries/damage which might be caused by one of them getting loose in a high wind. Those balloons are BIG


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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:38:21am

re: #195 Scottish Dragon

I think Trump will use Barr in some capacity to ratfvck the election results if he loses and declare the election invalid, and possibly try to bring criminal charges against whoever won.

I have a feeling that this election is going to be a major clusterfuck that will make 2000 look like a round of mah-jongg

too many people who want to ensure that the winner does not win

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:39:21am

re: #186 makeitstop

Anybody got an update on that airspace violation? I’ve been in head-down mode with work all morning and missed it.

And in other news, Macy’s may ground the balloons in the Thanksgiving parade due to projected high winds. That would kinda remove the entire point of the parade, unless you’re a lover of lip-synced vocal performances from cheesy floats.

that and Santa at the end of the parade officially announcing the start of the Christmas shopping season

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:39:22am

re: #185 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Even a pack of wolves would have a problem with full-grown feral hogs. They are little tanks. Innards protected, low to the ground, nimble and intelligent.

There is a reason our Medieval forefathers hunted them from atop armored horses. Using 12-foot spears.

On the other hand, they ARE tasty.

Hog hunting is about the only justification for using a military style semi auto rifle. Don’t need them for deer and small game. Pack of hogs, though? Yeah, break out an HK91.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:39:25am

re: #177 Teukka

Now for a word from one of my favorite series creators:

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The 2008 Democrat was considered illegitimate, so that doesn’t really change anything. Democrats will have to govern anyway.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:39:39am

re: #196 Jay C

They’ll make a determination tomorrow morning as to whether the balloons will fly.

As for the airspace intrusion, they lifted the lockdown at the WH and Capitol and continued tracking the aircraft. Not a threat at this time.

My guess is someone wandered into the airspace without realizing it. They will get a talking to now of course upon landing from the USSS among others.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:41:59am

re: #199 Scottish Dragon

Helicopters and 410 shotguns w/slugs.

Sorry folks Feral hogs are BAD.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:42:30am

re: #199 Scottish Dragon

A pack of feral hogs you say? Was the guy’s kids out in the yard playing too?

Where did I hear about this
. oh yeah, the justification for having unfettered access to AR-15s.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:42:59am

re: #186 makeitstop

Anybody got an update on that airspace violation? I’ve been in head-down mode with work all morning and missed it.

And in other news, Macy’s may ground the balloons in the Thanksgiving parade due to projected high winds. That would kinda remove the entire point of the parade, unless you’re a lover of lip-synced vocal performances from cheesy floats.

Or you like the marching bands like this former member does.

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Jay C  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:43:13am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that and Santa at the end of the parade officially announcing the start of the Christmas shopping season

He might as well (like the original SC in Miracle on 34th Street) head off to the nearest bar instead: “Christmas shopping season” has been more-or-less “officially” going on since about the day after Halloween
..

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:43:49am

re: #199 Scottish Dragon

Hog hunting is about the only justification for using a military style semi auto rifle. Don’t need them for deer and small game. Pack of hogs, though? Yeah, break out an HK91.

Cybertruck with a turret.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:44:41am

re: #203 lawhawk

A pack of feral hogs you say? Was the guy’s kids out in the yard playing too?

Where did I hear about this
. oh yeah, the justification for having unfettered access to AR-15s.

There was a story about a women here in Texas that was killed by feral hogs.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:46:19am

re: #205 Jay C

He might as well (like the original SC in Miracle on 34th Street) head off to the nearest bar instead: “Christmas shopping season” has been more-or-less “officially” going on since about the day after Halloween
..

Because they’re trying to overcome the shorter shooting period, this whole week is black week.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:46:25am
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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:46:43am

re: #116 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Morning Lizards say hi to the newest family member.

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Awesome!
Congratulations to both of you!
Looks a lot like my boss & princess Juno. Probably a lot of cute little snuggles in your future

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Jay C  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:47:25am

re: #208 Belafon

“shooting”??

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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:47:42am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have a feeling that this election is going to be a major clusterfuck that will make 2000 look like a round of mah-jongg

too many people who want to ensure that the winner does not win

And yet - Bevin conceded in Kentucky and Beshear will take office. The Democrats will take control of the Virginia statehouse. The worst of the Michigan redistricting attempts got beaten back in court. Even the ham-fisted attempts by my local county Republicans to hang on to control after losing the county executive race to a Dem (first time since 1997) didn’t work - they withdrew their bill after the public outcry got too loud.

When we push back, we win.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:49:39am

re: #212 i(m)p(each)sos

When we push back, we win.

I agree - but if the GOP see that they cannot win, then their next best strategy will be to try to discredit or cast doubts on the election results however and wherever possible.

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Teukka  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:51:43am

re: #194 lawhawk

J. Michael was prescient with some of his B5 storylines and commentary about human nature.

The original Babylon 5 seasons are basically a how-to guide recognize fascism. Along with some really nice dialogue and monologue:

“Every day, here and at home, we are warned about the enemy. But who is the enemy? Is it the alien? Well, we are all alien to one another. Is it the one who believes differently than we do? No, oh no, my friends. The enemy is fear. The enemy is ignorance. The enemy is the one who tells you that you must hate that which is different. Because, in the end, that hate will turn on you. And that same hate will destroy you.”
— Rev. Will Dexter, “And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place” [S03E20]

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:52:14am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:53:27am

re: #204 Belafon

Or you like the marching bands like this former member does.

I played mellophone in marching band, french horn in concert band, and flugelhorn and trumpet in jazz band. Didn’t even pick up guitar until a year or so out of high school. I wanted to sing also and that was so hard to do playing the trumpet.

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:55:06am

washingtonpost.com

Death rates from suicide, drug overdoses, liver disease and dozens of other causes have been rising over the past decade for young and middle-aged adults, driving down overall life expectancy in the United States for three consecutive years, according to a strikingly bleak study published Tuesday that looked at the past six decades of mortality data.

The report, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, was immediately hailed by outside researchers for its comprehensive treatment of a still-enigmatic trend: the reversal of historical patterns in longevity.

The United States, despite massive expenditures on health care, has seen increasing mortality and falling life expectancy for people ages 25 to 64, who should be in the prime of their lives,while other wealthy nations have generally experienced continued progress in extending longevity. Although earlier research emphasized rising mortality among non-Hispanic whites, the broad trend detailed in this study cuts across gender, racial and ethnic lines. By age group, the highest relative jump in death rates from 2010 to 2017 — 29 percent — has been among people ages 25 to 34.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:55:37am

re: #216 Eventual Carrion

I played mellophone in marching band, french horn in concert band, and flugelhorn and trumpet in jazz band. Didn’t even pick up guitar until a year or so out of high school. I wanted to sing also and that was so hard to do playing the trumpet.

I know he has fallen out of favor, but this is one of my favorite Woody Allen gags:

Woody Allen’s Cello Marching Band (from Take the Money and Run )

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Dave In Austin  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:56:00am

LawHawk
cnn.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:56:17am

Banksters, peasants, and Kim Jong Un’s grandpa: A parable for our times.

When Kim Il Sung’s communist army invaded the South in 1950, they initially met with great success. The ill-equipped and corruption-ridden southern army disintegrated, while MacArthur’s hastily assembled UN army was rushed from Japan. Unfortunately, Mac’s forces were also unprepared, thanks to the abominable staff work of his sycophantic subordinates. They were soon pushed into a small pocket around the port of Pusan (now rendered as Busan) and a desperate battle ensued.

In the meantime, the communists set about creating a peoples’ state in the newly won territory. First order of business when they entered a village was to eliminate supporters of the former regime. Kim was brutal but he was not an idiot, so this was not universally applied. Those regime holdovers who seemed likely to be useful could escape the firing squads, with the result that a few policemen, teachers, local administrators and even a handful of priests were spared.

There was one group that was eradicated without exception, though. All bankers and money-lenders were shot out of hand, their assets confiscated and their ledgers consigned to a bonfire in the village square. This initially made the communists very popular with the peasants, for South Korea had no usury laws and the peasants had been held in ruinous debt for their entire lives. This popularity faded quickly when the communists started confiscating food and drafting men to be fed into the napalm- fueled inferno at the front. The lesson was not lost, though, when the communist army was routed after the Inchon landing and fled back north. It took a while, for a few bankers had managed to survive, but their influence had been drastically reduced. The South eventually instituted fair banking and lending practices and the peasants prospered.

It’s hard to prove a connection and there are many other factors involved, but these events took place less than an average lifetime ago, within my lifetime in fact. In that time, South Korea has gone from backward third-world hellhole to one of the most advanced and prosperous countries in the world.

Primary source: This Kind of War by TR Fehrenbach and conversations with my son-in-law’s mother, who was born in South Korea and was an eyewitness to these events.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:56:29am

re: #133 Belafon

Maybe Beshear use the trmp tactic of having an “acting” Secretary of Transportation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 8:57:42am

re: #217 Joe Bacon đŸŒč

The report, published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, was immediately hailed by outside researchers for its comprehensive treatment of a still-enigmatic trend: the reversal of historical patterns in longevity.

The United States, despite massive expenditures on health care, has seen increasing mortality and falling life expectancy for people ages 25 to 64, who should be in the prime of their lives,while other wealthy nations have generally experienced continued progress in extending longevity..

a: “massive expenditures” does not necessarily reflect a higher level of care
b: I think that no small part of it is related to the level stress and uncertainty which has been coming to weigh more and more heavily on people.

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William Lewis  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:04:25am

re: #199 Scottish Dragon

Hog hunting is about the only justification for using a military style semi auto rifle. Don’t need them for deer and small game. Pack of hogs, though? Yeah, break out an HK91.

Imbel licensed FN FAL. I miss the one I had; I’ve never missed an AR pattern rifle.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:05:10am

re: #201 lawhawk

They’ll make a determination tomorrow morning as to whether the balloons will fly.

As for the airspace intrusion, they lifted the lockdown at the WH and Capitol and continued tracking the aircraft. Not a threat at this time.

My guess is someone wandered into the airspace without realizing it. They will get a talking to now of course upon landing from the USSS among others.

that’s the thing about an airplane
eventually it will land
you’d like to be at an airport when it does
and in a case like this, the faa, et al will be waiting at the fbo

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:05:11am

re: #203 lawhawk

Yeah, I remember that guy and the hog thing from him. Of course, you don’t absolutely have to have a detachable mag rifle for hog hunting. Anything .30-30 and above will do. However, large packs of feral hogs are dangerous and destructive, and clearance efforts probably require a degree of firepower that you do not see with other animals. State game officers are using full auto machine guns from what I understand, and explosives are being considered as well.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:07:32am

re: #224 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

that’s the thing about an airplane
eventually it will land
you’d like to be at an airport when it does
and in a case like this, the faa, et al will be waiting at the fbo

Yeah, we haven’t left one up there yet.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:07:48am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I know he has fallen out of favor, but this is one of my favorite Woody Allen gags:

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effing brilliant at the time

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:12:52am

OK that’s it! Hot dogs for Thanksgiving!

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:13:21am

FYI Colorado folks:

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:13:28am

re: #157 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Thanks. We mainly got her to be an emotional support dog 


I expect she will be very good at that job. Juno is very attentive to our mood and health. Not feeling well? Dr. Juno is on it
 Stressed? Here - have 300 kisses on your face followed by curling up and going to sleep on you, with possible cute snoring.
(Her head and face are identical to Juno’s except for color, so I am assuming she is the same, or nearly the same, strain of medicinal chihuahua as Juno.)

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:13:56am

i refuse to testify on the grounds of Canine Immunity

besides, dogs don’t speak english

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:14:58am

re: #228 The Pie Overlord!

So, The Cut’s kelly conaboy posed an interesting question: Would YOU eat a Flamin’ Hot Cheetos turkey? We asked our test cooks, editors, & staff. The results may surprise you.

one of the best Thanksgiving turkeys I ever ate was slathered with peanut butter and roasted diced green chilis, spatchcocked and grilled.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:15:42am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:17:13am

judge jackson: “the president is not a king”

trump worshipers: “you lie, libberuls!”

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makeitstop  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:18:42am

re: #196 Jay C

Not sure exactly who (NYC? Macy’s? NBC?) carries the liability insurance on the Thanksgiving parade, but I’m sure the disappointment over lack-of-balloons has been costed out as being way cheaper than the possible liability for injuries/damage which might be caused by one of them getting loose in a high wind. Those balloons are BIG


I know, we’ve been out there on Thanksgiving Eve while they blow them up. They look even bigger when you’re standing next to them.

And no balloons is going to seriously cut down the running time of the parade, which means the talking heads are going to end up commenting on each others’ overcoats and earmuffs and whatever else it’ll take to fill up the time until the dog show comes on.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:20:53am

Best thing about deep-frying a turkey? The Red Cross will bring you donuts and blankets after the fire.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:24:44am

re: #235 makeitstop

I’ve never been to the balloon filling activities before the parade, but I’ve been to the parade as a kid - a very neat experience. I haven’t been there as an adult, and I can’t stand the parade coverage on tv. It’s nearly always awful.

No balloons? Then spend more time on the marching bands that work so hard to get there.

Expect the talking heads to make the parade coverage more insufferable if the balloons don’t fly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:28:16am

re: #237 lawhawk

That’s why I only keep the parade on for background noise. I usually do watch some of the National Dog Show at some point because, you know, cute puppies and all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:28:23am

re: #234 dog philosopher àźàź’àź”àŻž

judge jackson: “the president is not a king”

trump worshipers: “you lie, libberuls!”

he is above a king, he is appointed by God!!!

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:30:41am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he is above a king, he is appointed by God!!!

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:31:10am

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 191124 edition —————————————->

introducing “The Toad Abode”

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:33:07am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he is above a king, he is appointed by God!!!

So were the Jewish kings. That didn’t stop them from screwing up or prevent God from punishing them if He thought they needed it.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:33:51am

re: #236 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Pressure treated decks burn hot.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:34:34am

re: #230 Jebediah, RBG

I expect she will be very good at that job. Juno is very attentive to our mood and health. Not feeling well? Dr. Juno is on it
 Stressed? Here - have 300 kisses on your face followed by curling up and going to sleep on you, with possible cute snoring.
(Her head and face are identical to Juno’s except for color, so I am assuming she is the same, or nearly the same, strain of medicinal chihuahua as Juno.)

ROTFLMAO! Well that’s the first time I ever heard of a dog being called medicinal. Therapeutic, yes. Medicinal, no.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:35:06am

re: #243 Shropshire Slasher

So too does shaker siding and dried leaves.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:35:14am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wonder if the death rate is attached to the current fentanyl/heroin epidemic.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:37:10am

re: #220 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Banksters, peasants, and Kim Jong Un’s grandpa: A parable for our times.

When Kim Il Sung’s communist army invaded the South in 1950, they initially met with great success. The ill-equipped and corruption-ridden southern army disintegrated, while MacArthur’s hastily assembled UN army was rushed from Japan. Unfortunately, Mac’s forces were also unprepared, thanks to the abominable staff work of his sycophantic subordinates. They were soon pushed into a small pocket around the port of Pusan (now rendered as Busan) and a desperate battle ensued.

In the meantime, the communists set about creating a peoples’ state in the newly won territory. First order of business when they entered a village was to eliminate supporters of the former regime. Kim was brutal but he was not an idiot, so this was not universally applied. Those regime holdovers who seemed likely to be useful could escape the firing squads, with the result that a few policemen, teachers, local administrators and even a handful of priests were spared.

There was one group that was eradicated without exception, though. All bankers and money-lenders were shot out of hand, their assets confiscated and their ledgers consigned to a bonfire in the village square. This initially made the communists very popular with the peasants, for South Korea had no usury laws and the peasants had been held in ruinous debt for their entire lives. This popularity faded quickly when the communists started confiscating food and drafting men to be fed into the napalm- fueled inferno at the front. The lesson was not lost, though, when the communist army was routed after the Inchon landing and fled back north. It took a while, for a few bankers had managed to survive, but their influence had been drastically reduced. The South eventually instituted fair banking and lending practices and the peasants prospered.

It’s hard to prove a connection and there are many other factors involved, but these events took place less than an average lifetime ago, within my lifetime in fact. In that time, South Korea has gone from backward third-world hellhole to one of the most advanced and prosperous countries in the world.

Primary source: This Kind of War by TR Fehrenbach and conversations with my son-in-law’s mother, who was born in South Korea and was an eyewitness to these events.

I like that. Conventional wisdom was that it first took mass protests to get Syngman Rhee out of power in 1959, and then it took the authoritarian regime of Park Chung Hee to make everyone fall into line with promises that soon enough everyone’s boat would rise. When that didn’t happen evenly, it took the KCIA to remove Park through assassination. They went through a lot to get to democracy in the early 1990s; they don’t like corruption (though of course it still happens).

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:38:00am

Needs more heresy!!

(strobe effect, so be careful)

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:39:21am

re: #246 Shropshire Slasher

I wonder if the death rate is attached to the current fentanyl/heroin epidemic.

Some of that is the result of the opioid epidemic (the gateway being drugs prescribed by licensed physicians who believed the pharmaceuticals when they said drugs like oxycontin were not addictive, even though there wasn’t any research to that point).

Some of it is the result of reversing expansion of health coverage to millions of Americans - and health coverage in states that refused to expand coverage under the ACA lag in all manner of health outcome metrics, including life expectancy.

Overall gun violence has dropped, but is still far higher in the US than elsewhere in the developed world.

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Jay C  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:40:33am

re: #229 lawhawk

FYI Colorado folks:

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That’s gotta suck: I-70 AND Rte 6 closed? aren’t those like the only E-W highways for like 500 miles in any direction?

I used to live in Denver in ancient days, and I remember US 6 would be closed for blizzards/avalanches/rockslides every winter: and thinking that it was fortunate I-70 had been so well-engineered to avoid those problems
. //

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:41:11am

re: #186 makeitstop

Anybody got an update on that airspace violation? I’ve been in head-down mode with work all morning and missed it.

And in other news, Macy’s may ground the balloons in the Thanksgiving parade due to projected high winds. That would kinda remove the entire point of the parade, unless you’re a lover of lip-synced vocal performances from cheesy floats.

If Milli Vanilli fell in the forest, would someone else make a sound?

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:41:54am
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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:45:44am

re: #185 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

There is a reason our Medieval forefathers hunted them from atop armored horses. Using 12-foot spears.

Don’t tell Robert Baratheon that!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:46:19am

Melanoma appeared at a youth opioid event to deliver some Be Best bullshit and was met with “a chorus of boos”. She pressed on.

Whatever.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:47:03am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:49:33am

re: #255 lawhawk

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I don’t care, do you?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:50:37am

re: #256 Eventual Carrion

I don’t care, do you?

Beat me to it lol.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:51:42am

re: #181 Eclectic Cyborg

Russia is an economic world power with more than TEN TIMES the population of Ukraine. They also have a President who happens to be a former intelligence officer.

Now, who do YOU think would more easily be able to pull off a wide scope hack of the 2016 election?

//

Russia is a world power because of its military and vast supply of nuclear weapons; but it’s not an economic power. Indeed, its economy is a disaster — other than oil and military weapons, it has nothing of interest to provide to the world. Its life expectancy is in the bottom quartile among all nations. The only way it can succeed is by bringing down the rest of the world — and it’s doing a good job on that with the United States

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:52:19am

re: #255 lawhawk

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Listen to them
children of the night
what music they make


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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:52:38am

Regarding the airspace violation:

- White House lockdown was lifted after 20 minutes.

- FAA reports it was a small aircraft that committed the violation, the plane was escorted out of restricted airspace by fighter jets

So, most likely a pilot who screwed up his navigating somehow.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:52:53am

re: #255 lawhawk

FoxPravda: “Those people should be punished for booing Queen Melanoma!”

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:53:28am

re: #261 Dr. Matt

FoxPravda: “Those people should be punished for booing Queen Melanoma!”

They were when she showed up.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:54:37am

Will the White House schedule two more events to find a group people that will greet her warmly?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:55:47am

This is what I am making on Thanksgiving
roast duck.

juliasalbum.com

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Skip Intro  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:57:16am

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:57:24am

re: #255 lawhawk

This is why Republicans are burning constitutions. The young people are coming, and they don’t like the GOP.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:57:52am

re: #256 Eventual Carrion

I’d go with thoughts and prayers myself
.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:58:00am

re: #187 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well actually, the issue (minor as it is) is in not so much as to what her place /description in our relationship is. She has been and will always be my Wife. After 34 years of marriage, that is not going to change (her words). It’s how do we now describe MY place in the relationship. Obviously, I can no longer be her “husband” and calling me her “wife” will get your head ripped off. We have more or less settled on partner for the time being.
All that being said, labels suck.

Jennifer Finney Boylan , a columnist for the NY Times, is in the similar situation as you — she’s been married to her spouse for 31 years; they have 2 children from before she transitioned.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 9:58:28am

re: #265 Skip Intro

That draws comparisons to Carol Burnett and Carol doesn’t deserve that.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:02:41am

re: #187 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well actually, the issue (minor as it is) is in not so much as to what her place /description in our relationship is. She has been and will always be my Wife. After 34 years of marriage, that is not going to change (her words). It’s how do we now describe MY place in the relationship. Obviously, I can no longer be her “husband” and calling me her “wife” will get your head ripped off. We have more or less settled on partner for the time being.
All that being said, labels suck.

I’m a trans woman and still married to my wife. Yeah, the labels thing gets annoying. Hugs and love to you. I know it’s tough.

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Skip Intro  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:03:18am

This is real. I had to check though.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:03:51am

re: #258 Hecuba’s daughter

Russia ranks 11 or 12 by GDP. It’s GDP is roughly equivalent to the size of New York’s GDP. The US GDP is $21 trillion. Russia? $1.6. NY has $1.7 trillion in GDP.

New York’s GDP is surpassed only by CA and TX, at $3 and $1.8 trillion, respectively.

But for nukes and active military spending, plus ongoing disinformation campaigns, Russia would be an afterthought in the global economy.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:11:09am

re: #265 Skip Intro

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The shower wears it better.

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Jay C  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:17:12am

re: #272 lawhawk

Russia ranks 11 or 12 by GDP. It’s GDP is roughly equivalent to the size of New York’s GDP. The US GDP is $21 trillion. Russia? $1.6. NY has $1.7 trillion in GDP.

New York’s GDP is surpassed only by CA and TX, at $3 and $1.8 trillion, respectively.

But for nukes and active military spending, plus ongoing disinformation campaigns, Russia would be an afterthought in the global economy.

True, but as a military semi-superpower (still smarting from the dissolution of its former “empire”) Russia’s size is pretty much the problem. Too big to be a second-tier Power, but not big enough for the “major leagues”. And then there are those nukes
..

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:18:48am

re: #272 lawhawk

Russia ranks 11 or 12 by GDP. It’s GDP is roughly equivalent to the size of New York’s GDP. The US GDP is $21 trillion. Russia? $1.6. NY has $1.7 trillion in GDP.

New York’s GDP is surpassed only by CA and TX, at $3 and $1.8 trillion, respectively.

But for nukes and active military spending, plus ongoing disinformation campaigns, Russia would be an afterthought in the global economy.

The only reason it ranks as high as 11 or 12 is due to petrodollars. Other than that, it has no real economy. It is a basket case — but one that can blow up the world and destroy everything around it. It is a nation with so much potential but it’s been plagued by incompetent leadership through much of its existence. I’ve always thought that if Trotsky had won the power struggle, the situation might have been different, but who knows?

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ColĂšre Tueur de Lapin  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:21:26am

re: #264 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This is what I am making on Thanksgiving
roast duck.

juliasalbum.com

We’re having duck, too. I really dislike all the traditional (1950s; which this country is fixated on) Thanksgiving food.

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William Lewis  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:22:30am

re: #248 Scottish Dragon

Needs more heresy!!

(strobe effect, so be careful)

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KGxvi  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:24:03am

re: #275 Hecuba’s daughter

The only reason it ranks as high as 11 or 12 is due to petrodollars. Other than that, it has no real economy. It is a basket case — but one that can blow up the world and destroy everything around it. It is a nation with so much potential but it’s been plagued by incompetent leadership through much of its existence. I’ve always thought that if Trotsky had won the power struggle, the situation might have been different, but who knows?

It’s 11th in nominal GDP and 6th in PPP GDP. But per capita it is 60th and 49th respectively. And that’s with the 9th largest population in the world (about half the US population).

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:24:13am

re: #263 Dr. Matt

Will the White House schedule two more events to find a group people that will greet her warmly?

+1

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:26:36am
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KGxvi  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:32:43am

Today would probably be a good day to mute any berniebros you might follow on the twitters:

Former President Barack Obama, who has so far taken a neutral position publicly on the 2020 Democratic presidential primary, privately indicated he would speak up to stop Bernie Sanders from becoming the party’s nominee should the Vermont senator make significant gains, Politico reported Tuesday.

Politico’s Ryan Lizza, who spoke to several of Obama’s advisers, wrote that the former president sees his role in the Democratic primary process as “providing guardrails” to make sure it doesn’t get “too ugly” and “to unite the party when the nominee is clear.”

Obama’s not wrong. But it’s going to be a bitchfest on line.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:33:40am

re: #276 ColĂšre Tueur de Lapin

We’re having duck, too. I really dislike all the traditional (1950s; which this country is fixated on) Thanksgiving food.

My brother wanted to get a Cajun turkey but my grandmother is a stickler for tradition.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:33:57am

re: #269 Belafon

That draws comparisons to Carol Burnett and Carol doesn’t deserve that.

Carol Burnett did it better
(And first)
;-)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:35:34am

re: #281 KGxvi

Today would probably be a good day to mute any berniebros you might follow on the twitters:

Obama’s not wrong. But it’s going to be a bitchfest on line.

I bet Obama can’t stand Bernie because Bernie shat on the coalition that Obama worked hard to build but I think it’s also ideological too. Bernie is an impractical ego maniac while Obama resides on Earth.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:36:34am
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:36:47am

re: #271 Skip Intro

This is real. I had to check though.

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“I had to check” is where we are

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KGxvi  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:36:49am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

My brother wanted to get a Cajun turkey but my grandmother is a stickler for tradition.

The last 10 years or so, we’ve been deep frying our turkey. The first couple of years, we did one in the fryer and one in the oven, but as the gatherings got smaller and the work got to be more, my mom surrendered the turkey.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:38:38am

re: #287 KGxvi

The last 10 years or so, we’ve been deep frying our turkey. The first couple of years, we did one in the fryer and one in the oven, but as the gatherings got smaller and the work got to be more, my mom surrendered the turkey.

Grandma is just set in her ways. She did finally try and surprisingly like Thai food but Cajun means spicy to her. The funny thing is her best friend is from NOLA.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:39:05am

re: #285 Barefoot Grin

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Stop whining Donnie.

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KGxvi  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:39:09am

re: #285 Barefoot Grin

Trump’s either a chickenshit or he knows that if any of his people testify they’ll implicate him in multiple high crimes and misdemeanors.* Ford testified himself about the Nixon pardons. Reagan and the elder Bush let those involved in Iran-Contra testify.

*I know, I know
 why not both?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:40:55am

re: #287 KGxvi

The last 10 years or so, we’ve been deep frying our turkey. The first couple of years, we did one in the fryer and one in the oven, but as the gatherings got smaller and the work got to be more, my mom surrendered the turkey.

I remember a Thanksgiving (I think it was 1999). My dad put the turkey in the oven, set everything correctly and checked on it three hours later to discover
.the oven wasn’t working.

Of course it was a holiday, so no repair option and no stores open at the time. We had to settle for oscar meyer sliced ham (the lunchmeat type stuff) but we still had some good sides and desserts so not all was lost.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:41:45am

Trump knows that if faced with jail time for perjury and saving their own asses, his guys wi’ll do the latter every time. He does nothing to inspire loyalty from his inner circle and I suspect if his cult ever saw him up close they would too but their media paints this picture of Trump hard at work and loyal.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:43:03am

Best piece of good news that I have heard in a long time!

We got him right where we want him!

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:44:03am

re: #285 Barefoot Grin
Came up with this idea all on his own, did he?
I mean constitutional scholar that he is


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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:44:11am

re: #293 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

Best piece of good news that I have heard in a long time!

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We got him right where we want him!

I thought Trump didn’t like losers.

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KGxvi  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:44:12am

This seems like a rather big fucking deal:

The Office of Management and Budget’s first official action to withhold $250 million in Pentagon aid to Ukraine came on the evening of July 25, the same day President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke on the phone, according to a House Budget Committee summary of the office’s documents.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:44:20am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Trump knows that if faced with jail time for perjury and saving their own asses, they’ll do the latter every time. He does nothing to inspire loyalty from his inner circle and I suspect if his cult ever saw him up close they would too but their media paints this picture of Trump hard at work and loyal.

1. Get hired by Trump

2. Promptly suck up all the government money you can while doing a whole lot of nothing. Bonus points for hooking your friends and family up too.

3. Say something publicly that isn’t 100% kissing Trumps ass.

4. Get fired by Trump.

5. Lock in that sweet tell all book deal.

6. PROFIT!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:45:54am

my sympathies go out to all the vegetarians who will be excommunicated and cast into the fiery pit this thanksgiving for committing the blasphemy of refusing to eat turkey

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:46:13am

re: #285 Barefoot Grin

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And interesting that every ex-prez managed to push back and then navigate this problem without any concerns for future generations

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retired cynic  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:46:16am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

Jennifer Finney Boylan , a columnist for the NY Times is in the similar situation as you — she’s been married to her spouse for 31 years; they have 2 children from before she transitioned.

I have a friend in the same situation. Her long-time spouse transitioned last year. They have no children, which might have made it easier.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:47:12am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

I thought Trump didn’t like losers.

There’s a loophole:

Trump is not personally close to Penn, who worked for Stein as his pollster in the 1980s, but admires his political strategy and TV appearances praising Trump, officials said.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:48:05am

re: #301 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

There’s a loophole:

Ah of course. The old butter Donnie’s ass up with flattery.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:48:44am

re: #296 KGxvi

This seems like a rather big fucking deal:

Speaks to evidence.

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Citizen K  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:50:02am

How do you even fight or counteract this kind of mindset?

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:51:09am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:52:09am

re: #304 Citizen K

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How do you even fight or counteract this kind of mindset?

Short of permanently knocking Fox News off the air, it’s very, very difficult.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:52:18am

re: #305 Belafon

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Women vote more than men thank goodness.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:52:26am

re: #270 Scottish Dragon

I’m a trans woman and still married to my wife. Yeah, the labels thing gets annoying. Hugs and love to you. I know it’s tough.

Thanks. We’ve made it this far. I think we will make it the rest of the way as well.

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KGxvi  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:52:30am

re: #304 Citizen K

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How do you even fight or counteract this kind of mindset?

I believe the appropriate response is:

Ok, boomer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:52:36am

re: #305 Belafon

Oh, please let Trump be brought down by women. PLEASE.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:52:45am

re: #304 Citizen K

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How do you even fight or counteract this kind of mindset?

Bourbon

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:53:06am

re: #304 Citizen K

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How do you even fight or counteract this kind of mindset?

The New York Times will do anything to keep Trump in office.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:53:40am

re: #311 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

Upding for beautifully channeling Stonekettle.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:54:41am

trump contends that he really wants his aids to testify, really he does, but he feels compelled to preserve the right of future presidents to violate the law

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:55:10am
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Citizen K  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:56:25am

re: #281 KGxvi

Today would probably be a good day to mute any berniebros you might follow on the twitters:

Obama’s not wrong. But it’s going to be a bitchfest on line.

Am I the only one who’s taking anything Politico says about Obama’s actual opinion on things with a huge ass margarita grade grain of salt?

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:56:57am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:57:04am
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retired cynic  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:57:48am

Beto O’Rourke send out a lovely Thanksgiving letter, about something happening at El Paso: “Border Tuner.” I never heard of such a thing!

bordertuner.net

Beto and his family took part.

An interactive public art installation across the US-Mexico border by Rafael Lozano-Hemmer.
​
Open to the public
November 13 - 24, 2019
Every night, 6:30 to 11:00 PM

Bowie High School, El Paso and
Parque Chamizal, Ciudad JuĂĄrez
​
Three interactive stations on each side of the border will control powerful searchlight beams using a small dial wheel. When lights from any two stations are directed at each other, microphones and speakers automatically switch-on to allow participants to talk with one another, creating cross-border conversations.
​
The project is curated by Kerry Doyle and LeĂłn de la Rosa, with programming direction by Edgar Picazo. While a diverse schedule of invited guests will open the installation each evening, everybody is welcome to participate for free.

So cool!

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:57:58am

re: #314 dog philosopher àźàź’àź”àŻž

trump contends that he really wants his aids to testify, really he does, but he feels compelled to preserve the right of future presidents to violate the law

He is planning on having Don Jr or Jared succeed him — so this is a very real concern.///

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:57:59am

re: #316 Citizen K

Am I the only one who’s taking anything Politico says about Obama’s actual opinion on things with a huge ass margarita grade grain of salt?

No

Charlie Pierce correctly calls Politico Tiger Beat On The Potomac!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:58:47am

re: #280 Joe Bacon đŸŒč

THE CALLS ARE COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE, GLENN! GET OUT NOW!

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Citizen K  Nov 26, 2019 • 10:59:29am

re: #321 Joe Bacon đŸŒč

No

Charlie Pierce correctly calls Politico Tiger Beat On The Potomac!

It just feels like people are just jumping at the chance to use this as proof positive that Obama was the worst thing to ever happen to Dems and is personally responsible for all our declines in fortune. It’s fucking exhausting, on top of all the other politically and spiritually exhausting shit these days.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:01:06am

re: #319 retired cynic

Beto O’Rourke send out a lovely Thanksgiving letter, about something happening at El Paso: “Border Tuner.” I never heard of such a thing!

bordertuner.net

Beto and his family took part.

So cool!

Beto should be where Pete is now sigh.

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KGxvi  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:01:08am

re: #317 Belafon

Frank, your friends are assholes. And your perceived enemies in American politics are not your enemies, just countrymen who disagree about policies. You seem like a nice enough guy on TV, probably the sort that could be friends with people who disagreed with you. But mostly, your friends are assholes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:01:28am

re: #317 Belafon

So, Frank, when are you finally going to join Joe Walsh and abandon your party while it remains in thrall to Putin? Wait, you have even less ethics than Joe F..ing Walsh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:03:12am

A building collapsed in Cincinnati yesterday.
Concrete was being poured when the seventh floor collapsed onto the sixth floor

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:03:24am
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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:03:31am
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retired cynic  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:05:46am

re: #315 Belafon

This is so important! A man I hold very dear, like a son, is Lebanese, and his description of growing up in this beautiful country being torn apart by its location is just horrifying. His father loved the horse races, and he would take his son, but on the way he would tall his son to hit the floor as he drove very fast to avoid the bullets from snipers. What a childhood memory! The people are just wonderful, sophisticated, educated. That DT can make their situation so much worse just for the heck of it. Like Ukraine. Like the Kurds.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:06:55am

re: #306 Eclectic Cyborg

Short of permanently knocking Fox News off the air, it’s very, very difficult.

Thats the real question
How to effectively counteract tee-vee?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:07:24am
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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:08:56am

re: #120 The Pie Overlord!

I had my annual flu shot yesterday! My arm was itchy and now it’s kinda tender around the injection but flu sucks harder so this vaccine will kick its ass.

My grandpa died 101 years ago in the Spanish Flu pandemic. He was 28 years old.

My mother was the only one in her family, that didn’t get the Spanish flu.

She was 6 years old at the time, and said that it seemed that she cleaned house and washed dishes for 2 weeks.

One of her sisters died.

Everyone else recovered.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:10:16am

heh

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:11:34am

re: #323 Citizen K

It just feels like people are just jumping at the chance to use this as proof positive that Obama was the worst thing to ever happen to Dems and is personally responsible for all our declines in fortune. It’s fucking exhausting, on top of all the other politically and spiritually exhausting shit these days.

They’re doing what trump does
setting the narrative early
Then when Bernie doesn’t win
here’s the reason why
Not possibly that enough people didn’t vote for him

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:12:23am

*snerk*

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:15:34am
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:15:47am

re: #329 Belafon

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“Focus on governing”

Oooh I’m dyiiiiiiin’ again (b. Bunny)

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:17:01am

re: #330 retired cynic

This is so important! A man I hold very dear, like a son, is Lebanese, and his description of growing up in this beautiful country being torn apart by its location is just horrifying. His father loved the horse races, and he would take his son, but on the way he would tall his son to hit the floor as he drove very fast to avoid the bullets from snipers. What a childhood memory! The people are just wonderful, sophisticated, educated. That DT can make their situation so much worse just for the heck of it. Like Ukraine. Like the Kurds.

He makes them more desperate for the money
That leads to
..

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Teukka  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:17:23am

This is a public service announcement:

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:22:04am

re: #340 Teukka

This is a public service announcement:

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The cousin of one of my son’s classmates died from the flu last year.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:23:08am

re: #337 Scottish Dragon

See? Even birds hate Trump and want to do something about him.

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Teukka  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:25:44am

re: #341 Belafon

The cousin of one of my son’s classmates died from the flu last year.

I was in a bad shape when I entered the ER with my pleural empyema. Generally sunk and a CRP of 265+. Doc said “I’m gonna throw you upstairs.” You know how sunk you are when you don’t notice the nurse putting a PVC in and taking a couple of vials of blood. I hate to think of what would’ve happened if I hadn’t insisted on getting the results of the X-rays I took a week earlier.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:31:03am

re: #340 Teukka

This is a public service announcement:

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good ad

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John Hughes  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:34:18am

re: #32 Ace-o-aces

Mandating vaccinations against diseases that are NOT contagious

So exactly how does she think people catch HPV?

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Dread Pirate  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:35:48am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:36:17am

re: #328 Patricia Kayden

Worth noting: TruNews regularly gets White House press credentials.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:38:13am

re: #345 John Hughes

So exactly how does she think people catch HPV?

She may be defining contagious as airborne; you are not going to pick up HPV by walking past someone who is sneezing or shaking hands with someone infected.

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retired cynic  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:40:27am

re: #339 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

He makes them more desperate for the money
That leads to
..

It leads to Putin. Of course.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:40:42am

re: #348 Hecuba’s daughter

She may be defining contagious as airborne; you are not going to pick up HPV by walking past someone who is sneezing or shaking hands with someone infected.

Reminds me of all the bullshit being spread about AIDS in the early 80s.

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John Hughes  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:40:49am

re: #51 Dread Pirate

EU should start negotiating individual trade agreements with US states.

Sorry Russia, US, you can’t get me, I’m part of the Union.

EU member states can no more negotiate trade treaties than US states.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:40:52am

re: #345 John Hughes

So exactly how does she think people catch HPV?

Sinful thoughts.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:41:07am

re: #349 retired cynic

It leads to Putin. Of course.

As Nancy said, “All roads lead to Putin.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:42:31am

re: #337 Scottish Dragon

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:43:53am

re: #345 John Hughes

So exactly how does she think people catch HPV?

I remember a lot of the right wing types were screaming about this and saying their daughters had no need for this vaccination because their daughters were not common sluts.

I mentioned once or twice that these parents were betting their daughter’s life on a future husband’s fidelity whom they had never even met.

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John Hughes  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:44:11am

re: #59 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Conan, a Belgian Malinois, seemed much more interested in the head scratches it was getting from Mike Pence

Did Pence know Conan is female? Did mother?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:44:59am
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:45:08am

re: #328 Patricia Kayden

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Dread Pirate  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:47:44am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:48:58am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:50:14am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:50:31am

re: #350 Eclectic Cyborg

Reminds me of all the bullshit being spread about AIDS in the early 80s.

In the early 80’s the experts did not know how AIDs was spread and had no test to identify who was infected; they waited too long to protect our blood supply.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:50:59am

re: #358 The Pie Overlord!

Gefilte fish is a horseradish delivery device.

What’s your most controversial opinion on Judaism?

Hamentaschen are meh and jelly donuts are poor substitutes for chocolate. That is all.

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John Hughes  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:51:23am

re: #78 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

how do you feel about malaria or plague?
you know, mosquitoes and fleas. .:. not contagious

Malaria is not contagious, plague can be.

Not that has anything to do with vaccines.

And, of course, HPV is contagious.

It’s a meaningless argument.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:52:21am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s on heels of a big story in NY about how the Staten Island NY Amazon distribution facility has injury rate 3 times higher than national average for distribution centers. In fact, the Amazon facility is more dangerous than working in a mine or saw mill, and that a significant number of those injured there cannot return to work.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:54:27am

re: #347 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Worth noting: TruNews regularly gets White House press credentials.

well it’s got ‘Tru’ right there in the name, so
.

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:54:46am

re: #364 John Hughes

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:55:34am

re: #358 The Pie Overlord!

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 11:57:06am

re: #348 Hecuba’s daughter

She may be defining contagious as airborne; you are not going to pick up HPV by walking past someone who is sneezing or shaking hands with someone infected.

i tried to allude to that up top - her ‘contagious’ meant spread direct person to person

so i asked what about fleas (plague) and mosquitoes (malaria)?
granted those two arent much of an issue in the United States

what’s the public policy on infections whose vectors are not direct person to person?

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:00:06pm

re: #355 Scottish Dragon

I remember a lot of the right wing types were screaming about this and saying their daughters had no need for this vaccination because their daughters were not common sluts.

I mentioned once or twice that these parents were betting their daughter’s life on a future husband’s fidelity whom they had never even met.

reread your first para in italics ;-)

my daughter would never associate with, let alone marry that kind of man //

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KGxvi  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:00:34pm

re: #365 lawhawk

That’s on heels of a big story in NY about how the Staten Island NY Amazon distribution facility has injury rate 3 times higher than national average for distribution centers. In fact, the Amazon facility is more dangerous than working in a mine or saw mill, and that a significant number of those injured there cannot return to work.

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So, South Park was ahead of the curve on Amazon?

southpark.cc.com

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Dread Pirate  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:01:13pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:02:18pm

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

makes you hunger for the days when the debate was does ‘potato’ have an ‘e’

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:02:47pm

re: #358 The Pie Overlord!

ditto (oops - eta i like gefilte fish)

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:03:44pm

OMG this made me laugh


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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:04:49pm

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

quelle suprise

an incentivized tax break by another name

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:06:08pm

re: #369 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

A vaccine costs a fraction of an illness like malaria or cancer, which is generally not spread person to person.

If you can vaccinate a population against cancer or malaria, you’d see a major improvement in other health outcomes, life expectancy, and health funds can be directed at other ailments. You’d also see economic improvements as less time is spent hospitalized/caring for those who are sick, and the emotional toll of getting sick or watching a loved one sickened or dying from these diseases.

HPV vaccine prevents not only HPV but a variety of cancers. In the US, Gardasil prevents infection from HPV 16 and 18, which account for 70% of cervical cancers as well as five additional cancer-causing types (31, 33, 45, 52, and 58) that together account for 10 to 20% of cervical cancers. So, you can prevent 80-90% of cervical cancers, prevent several other kinds of cancer, and these people think it’s not worth it?

Fuck that. Anyone who knows anyone who has had cancer knows that they’d all give whatever they could to avoid getting cancer. A vaccine? I’d take it to avoid the chance I would get a disease as horrible as that.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:06:58pm

re: #363 lawhawk

What’s your most controversial opinion on Judaism?

it’s not all about the food.

oh, and as an adult you dont have to talk to your mother every day
(yeah, right)

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:07:49pm

re: #378 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

it’s not all about the food.

oh, and as an adult you dont have to talk to your mother every day
(yeah, right)

Latkes are delicious.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:07:59pm
A.C. Moore, a retailer that has a prime location in the Land Title building at South Broad and Walnut streets in Center City, is closing all of its 145 stores.

Leases on up to 40 of the stores will be taken over by the Michaels Co. Inc. and open in 2020 under the Michaels name. It’s unclear which of those locations will be converted into Michaels though Anthony Piperno, CEO of A.C. Moore, said in a statement that information will be disclosed in the next few weeks.

bizjournals.com

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Dread Pirate  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:08:53pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:10:37pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:10:57pm

re: #364 John Hughes

Malaria is not contagious, plague can be.

Not that has anything to do with vaccines.

And, of course, HPV is contagious.

It’s a meaningless argument.

that was exactly my point

the means of transmission is irrelevant to what vaccine or any other public health policy should be ‘mandated’

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:11:21pm

re: #379 Scottish Dragon

Latkes are delicious.

That’s objectively true.

Oil. Fried potatoes and onion. Seasoning. Yum.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:11:39pm

re: #381 Dread Pirate

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:12:04pm

re: #378 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

You don’t realize that until it’s too late.

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Teukka  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:12:29pm

re: #382 gocart mozart

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And cruelty to the fauna, those poor brainworms must be starving and some may have perished already.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:13:21pm

re: #378 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

it’s not all about the food.

oh, and as an adult you dont have to talk to your mother every day
(yeah, right)

It’s OK if you text her.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:15:17pm

He is not moving his left arm much. This was noticed yesterday as well.

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KGxvi  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:17:01pm

re: #385 Scottish Dragon

Maybe she’s going to be his defense counsel in the Senate trial?

Or he wants to appoint her to the federal bench?

Or it’s just show prep?

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:18:29pm

re: #377 lawhawk

i think (and i hope) we are all saying the same thing

as i said just above, i was mocking the idiocy that the means of transmission is somehow a relevant factor in determining public health policy

its severity and the ease with which it spreads
not how it spreads (that’s tactics / strategy)

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:20:28pm

re: #386 lawhawk

You don’t realize that until it’s too late.

you mean the second one, right? ;-)

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:23:40pm

This is also the 9th day since Trump made an unscheduled hospital visit and has not been to one of his golf properties since. He is also reportedly no longer working in the Oval Office and is doing all his work in the WH residence and his bed room.

Something happened. It was serious. We are being lied to.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:25:48pm

re: #393 Scottish Dragon

This is also the 9th day since Trump made an unscheduled hospital visit and has not been to one of his golf properties since. He is also reportedly no longer working in the Oval Office and is doing all his work in the WH residence and his bed room.

Something happened. It was serious. We are being lied to.

it points out yet another aspect of the presidency not covered by the constitution

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John Hughes  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:26:59pm

re: #348 Hecuba’s daughter

She may be defining contagious as airborne;

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:32:13pm

re: #390 KGxvi

Maybe she’s going to be his defense counsel in the Senate trial

Please! Please! Please! Please!

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i(m)p(each)sos  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:33:29pm

re: #394 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

it points out yet another aspect of the presidency not covered by the constitution

It’s exactly what the 25th Amendment was meant to protect against after the abuses of the Wilson presidency, among others. But it depends on Cabinet members and a Congress who put the country first, ahead of party or personal loyalty to the president.

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KGxvi  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:33:58pm

re: #394 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

it points out yet another aspect of the presidency not covered by the constitution

I don’t know. We have the 25th Amendment in the event he’s suddenly unable to perform his duties as president - Wilson and Kennedy were the basic reasons for it - but in this case, he’s still capable of performing his duties.

How much we should know about the president’s health is another story. As is whether or not we are entitled to see his medical records. (This reminds me of the story arch on West Wing when it came out that Bartlett had MS)

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:34:01pm

I’m gonna put this here at the end of the thread.

I forgot to put something into these oatmeal cookies.

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John Hughes  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:34:21pm

re: #369 DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)

i tried to allude to that up top - her ‘contagious’ meant spread direct person to person

Uh, but HPV is spread direct person to person.

But like you (and I) said, even if it’s not contagious, so what? If a vaccine protects you against it who the fuck cares about how you catch it.

(Of course this is what t’s really about — she knows how you catch HPV, and so protecting people against it is bad).

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EPR-radar  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:34:38pm

re: #397 i(m)p(each)sos

It’s exactly what the 25th Amendment was meant to protect against after the abuses of the Wilson presidency, among others. But it depends on Cabinet members and a Congress who put the country first, ahead of party or personal loyalty to the president.

With each and every DC Republican being both a criminal and a traitor, that isn’t going to happen.

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Mescalero09  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:35:43pm
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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:36:14pm

re: #399 jeffreyw

Or you put baking powder in instead of baking soda.

Baking soda is 3x more potent than baking powder.

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BigPapa  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:36:34pm

The next time I request a person email me a picture then they text it to me will be grounds execution. While we’re on the subject of executions:

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Citizen K  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:39:21pm

It must be nice to be so inured to inequality that you can dismiss racism and white supremacy as something that’s “just on TV”.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:39:51pm

re: #399 jeffreyw

I’ll still eat the rejects.

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lizardofid  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:41:48pm

re: #399 jeffreyw

I’m gonna put this here at the end of the thread.

[Embedded content]

I forgot to put something into these oatmeal cookies.

Never too late to put your teeth in em! ; )

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:42:37pm

re: #399 jeffreyw

I’m gonna put this here at the end of the thread.

[Embedded content]

I forgot to put something into these oatmeal cookies.

Raisins, hopefully.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:44:25pm

re: #408 Barefoot Grin

Or cranberries!

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:44:28pm

re: #403 lawhawk

Or you put baking powder in instead of baking soda.

Baking soda is 3x more potent than baking powder.

No, I put in 1/2 tsp of baking soda.
I guess the framing was bad, I should have said, “I forgot to add something in this oatmeal cookie recipe.”

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:44:54pm

re: #408 Barefoot Grin

Raisins, hopefully.

Onetime Grandma put diced dates instead of raisins in her oatmeal cookies and they tasted so good!!!!!!!

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:45:33pm

re: #406 Shropshire Slasher

I’ll still eat the rejects.

The rejects are fine eating!

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:46:03pm

re: #408 Barefoot Grin

Raisins, hopefully.

Actually


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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:52:52pm

re: #397 i(m)p(each)sos

It’s exactly what the 25th Amendment was meant to protect against after the abuses of the Wilson presidency, among others. But it depends on Cabinet members and a Congress who put the country first, ahead of party or personal loyalty to the president.

you are correct of course

i meant the lying about the president’s health status part
the 25th is no help if the cabinet doesnt know the truth either

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:52:53pm

oats

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:54:24pm

re: #398 KGxvi

I don’t know. We have the 25th Amendment in the event he’s suddenly unable to perform his duties as president - Wilson and Kennedy were the basic reasons for it - but in this case, he’s still capable of performing his duties.

How much we should know about the president’s health is another story. As is whether or not we are entitled to see his medical records. (This reminds me of the story arch on West Wing when it came out that Bartlett had MS)

and remember what pissed everyone off was not the MS as such
it was that they hid it and/or he ‘lied’ about it

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:57:41pm

re: #405 Citizen K

my response to that ‘american’ would be
- where the eff do you live?
and
- what do you look like?

418
Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 12:59:38pm

re: #411 Joe Bacon đŸŒč

Onetime Grandma put diced dates instead of raisins in her oatmeal cookies and they tasted so good!!!!!!!

i hate it when a plate of oatmeal raisin cookies masquerade as chocolate chip
i always feel ripped off

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Dread Pirate  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:05:08pm
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Dread Pirate  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:05:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:08:59pm

re: #399 jeffreyw

I’m gonna put this here at the end of the thread.

[Embedded content]

I forgot to put something into these oatmeal cookies.

I’m gonna take a wild guess and say you forgot the oatmeal


if not, then the flour

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mmmirele  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:09:11pm

re: #389 Scottish Dragon

He is not moving his left arm much. This was noticed yesterday as well.

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I reviewed some videos of the 2018 and 2017 turkey pardons. While Trump definitely favors his right arm, he uses his left arm when making wide armed gestures. It seemed like he used his left arm a lot more in 2017 than in 2018, but he didn’t at all at this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:10:06pm

re: #415 jeffreyw

oats

ah
i shoulda continued reading before posting my guess.

:(

424
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:12:05pm

the turkey is insulted

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:12:14pm

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m gonna take a wild guess and say you forgot the oatmeal


if not, then the flour

ding ding ding!

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lawhawk  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:13:16pm

Needle moving?

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BigPapa  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:14:02pm

I had to turn off texting on my work number. I am appalled at how many people text when they should call/leave VM or use email.

I talked to a property manager this AM and told him to take a picture of the thing that broke and email it to me. He texted it to me. I just can’t any more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:15:10pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

of course she didn’t.
he replaced her on the ticket and,since she’s actually a Libertarian,she no doubt voted for John Hicks

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:19:15pm

Speaking of cookies, the cook’s country version of cowboy cookies is almost idiot-proof.

cookscountry.com

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jeffreyw  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:25:04pm

re: #429 BlueSpotinAL

Speaking of cookies, the cook’s country version of cowboy cookies is almost idiot-proof.

cookscountry.com

I was using a similar recipe..hey, waitadamnminute!

431
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:28:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:30:06pm

so, my old Windows7 Desktop computer is stuck in the black screen of death after logging in. I’ll deal with that after the holiday, but


when I was looking to bookmark my local National Weather Service link on my laptop, when I typed “NWS” into Google, a bunch of links came up titled National Weather Service but most of them were NOT NWS.

the links want to install an app onto your computer and wants access to everything.

I checked WHOIS to see just who these asshats may be and MAH SURPRISE
 they are all privacy shielded.

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Belafon  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:30:18pm

re: #426 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Needle moving?

It’s definitely an angle Democrats should keep talking about: The Administration should cooperate because it’s the law and if they are innocent, the there won’t be a problem.

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makeitstop  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:31:18pm

re: #389 Scottish Dragon

He is not moving his left arm much. This was noticed yesterday as well.

[Embedded content]

Wearing that bigass coat again, too.

435
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:32:55pm

re: #434 makeitstop

Wearing that bigass coat again, too.

I think it’s adorable that they believe a kevlar vest is all that’s needed to protect him

436
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:33:31pm
437
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:35:04pm

PeeWee Herman Voice: so funny I forgot to laugh


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Mike Lamb  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:35:06pm

re: #426 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Needle moving?

And here I thought that support for impeachment was now at 25%. Was I misinformed?

(Yes, I know that poll doesn’t ask directly about support for impeachment).

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Citizen K  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:38:31pm
440
gocart mozart  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:38:36pm
441
KGxvi  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:38:39pm

re: #438 Mike Lamb

And here I thought that support for impeachment was now at 25%. Was I misinformed?

(Yes, I know that poll doesn’t ask directly about support for impeachment).

The number I’ve seen floating around lately is 51-43 in favor of impeachment.

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uriel  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:43:16pm

re: #348 Hecuba’s daughter

She may be defining contagious as airborne; you are not going to pick up HPV by walking past someone who is sneezing or shaking hands with someone infected.

She may be. That doesn’t make her any less wrong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:44:15pm

hahahahaha

444
Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:46:44pm

pretty scathing

It proves men like him are more willing to perpetuate the fantastic narrative of negro neighborhoods needing more role models and briefcase-carriers than make the people in power stare into the sun and see the blinding light of racism.

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sagehen  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:53:01pm

re: #440 gocart mozart

Obama could have celebrated the Centennial of Women’s Suffrage 8 or even 3 years ago but he cares more about liberal elitist math than he cares about women’s rights.

Using Arabic numerals, no doubt.

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Joe Bacon đŸŒč  Nov 26, 2019 • 1:56:01pm

re: #439 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

And @jack sees nothing wrong with someone threatening to kill Bernie Sanders


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Eventual Carrion  Nov 27, 2019 • 1:20:45am

re: #402 Mescalero09

[Embedded content]

Plays a mean bass line, who cares


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