In Which Donald Trump Blatantly Lies About an Interview With Ukraine’s President

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This morning our so-called president woke up and struggled into the bathroom to sit on his solid gold toilet and tweet this.

Breaking news! Donald Trump is a blatant liar!

Because here’s the interview to which he’s referring, in TIME. Zelensky is much better at hedging his words than Trump, and he’s very aware of the power differential between Ukraine and the United States, but he says enough to make it clear that he’s not absolving Trump or saying he “did nothing wrong.”

This is how the interview ends, and it’s very different from Trump’s distorted lie.

TIME: When did you first sense that there was a connection between Trump’s decision to block military aid to Ukraine this summer and the two investigations that Trump and his allies were asking for? Can you clarify this issue of the quid pro quo?

Zelensky: Look, I never talked to the President from the position of a quid pro quo. That’s not my thing. … I don’t want us to look like beggars. But you have to understand. We’re at war. If you’re our strategic partner, then you can’t go blocking anything for us. I think that’s just about fairness. It’s not about a quid pro quo. It just goes without saying.

Breaking news: Donald Trump is a con man, and a liar, and a lawless criminal president.

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265 comments

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 10:58:46am

trump’s breaking news is neither ”breaking’ nor is it ‘news’

sadly, Mr. Johnson’s isn’t really either.

(edited because i didnt see the bottom comment)

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KGxvi  Dec 2, 2019 • 10:58:51am
Look, I never talked to the President from the position of a quid pro quo. That’s not my thing. … I don’t want us to look like beggars. But you have to understand. We’re at war. If you’re our strategic partner, then you can’t go blocking anything for us. I think that’s just about fairness. It’s not about a quid pro quo. It just goes without saying.

Translation: it wasn’t a quid pro quo, it was extortion.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:00:38am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:01:52am

re: #2 KGxvi

“Way worse than quid pro quo.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:09:52am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:11:47am

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Congressman Hunter has shown a blatant disregard for the law and engaged in one of the most egregious congressional spending scandals we have ever seen,” said Jordan Libowitz, communications director for the left-leaning advocacy group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington or CREW. “We are glad to see Congressman Hunter will finally face the consequences of his actions. Given that he will now be a convicted criminal for abusing his office, Congressman Hunter must resign immediately.”

Apparently ethics and following the law is a left-leaning thing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:11:49am
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Targetpractice  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:13:52am

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“It’s important not to have a public trial for three reasons, and those three reasons are my kids,” Hunter told KUSI in an interview aired just minutes after the court notice.

Translation: “There was no way I was going to avoid this going to trial, so I’m knuckling under while there’s still a deal on the table.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:14:03am

Chicago Police Chief Eddie Johnson has “resigned”. I say good riddance. And it’s not about when he was caught sleeping in his car pre-shift because he was drunk.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:14:47am

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hunter, who will turn 43 on Saturday, and his wife were charged in August 2018 with 60 criminal counts related to their use of Hunter’s campaign contributions and each faced decades in prison if convicted on all charges.

Sixty criminal counts. SIXTY.

Jeebus.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:16:10am

re: #6 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Apparently ethics and following the law is a left-leaning thing.

yeah try and explain why a guy who abused the public trust by basically spending political contributions he received on himself, should absolutely stay in office.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:16:19am

re: #10 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Weren’t there “only” 7 against Roger Stone?

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:17:35am

re: #9 GlutenFreeJesus

Chicago Police Chief Eddie Johnson has “resigned”. I say good riddance. And it’s not about when he was caught sleeping in his car pre-shift because he was drunk.

i see your quotes
i saw the story a couple of times this morning. didnt read any of them
i saw the word ‘fired’ a lot
no headline used the word ‘resigned’ //

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:17:38am

re: #11 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

yeah try and explain why a guy who abused the public trust by basically spending political contributions he received on himself, should absolutely stay in office.

Issa is running for it now. GROAN

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:17:48am

re: #10 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Sixty criminal counts. SIXTY.

Jeebus.

Yeah, that’s basically every individual purchase illicitly made with campaign funds.. Which run the gamut from airline tickets to a drink at a bar

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KGxvi  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:19:15am

A very old good boy/girl discovered in Russia:

Russian scientists on Monday showed off a prehistoric puppy, believed to be 18,000 years old, found in permafrost in the country’s Far East.

Discovered because of climate change. And so old that two rounds of genome sequencing can’t tell if it’s a dog or a wolf.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:22:28am
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KGxvi  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:23:46am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Donald and Boris are definitely going to find a way to really fuck shit up this week

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Mike Lamb  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:25:11am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Will there still be a NATO after this trip?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:28:27am

re: #19 Mike Lamb

Will there still be a NATO after this trip?

Watch Trump shoot his mouth off for the Tories!

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:36:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:36:23am
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jaunte  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:38:14am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:38:56am

re: #19 Mike Lamb

Will there still be a NATO after this trip?

Is Pompeo so depraved and so complicit that this would not be a step too far even for him? It seems that the entire GOP has aligned itself to Putin and Putin’s policies. “Have you no sense of decency, sir?” Sigh, probably not — traitors all..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:40:26am
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ericblair  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:43:37am

re: #19 Mike Lamb

Will there still be a NATO after this trip?

I think that the shitgibbon may actual play (relatively) nice. He’s got a reduction in US funding to NATO (which ended up being a relatively minor rejiggering of national contributions, here). He’s got Space as an Operational Domain (which is mostly a bureaucratic reshuffling of responsibilities for now, not SPACE MARINES). And Mark Fucking Penn is trying to make him play nice as some sort of impeachment rehabilitation strategy.

The fun will probably be in the Europeans lining up to kick Macron in the balls for going off on his little Gallic power play without sharing it with the class first, and everyone trying to figure out whether Erdogan is really pitching a sulk about the Kurds or just wants something else. Good times.

Of course, the shitgibbon could end up having a bad colon day and all bets are off.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:43:47am

re: #23 jaunte

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Has it been uploaded to Pornhub yet?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:44:22am

This fucking guy is really hammering on this lie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:44:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:45:37am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:51:13am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:54:49am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

Agreed. Trumps predilection to viciously attack any woman or person of color who he feels is against him is absolutely appalling.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:57:37am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

because it comes through twitter, i swear i have to remind myself all the time that this is not some rando.

it’s the actual president of the united states
and his party is 100% behind this behavior

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 2, 2019 • 11:57:45am

With Trump the news is always more broken than “breaking”.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:05:00pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

This fucking guy is really hammering on this lie.

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hey don,

that’s not how any of this works

you’re gonna be impeached.
that’s for all time
it never goes away

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:07:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:10:41pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:10:44pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:14:18pm

re: #38 Dave In Austin

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:14:59pm

re: #38 Dave In Austin

your ‘risk awareness’ isn’t.
there is no science behind it
you are crackpots
shoo

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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:20:43pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:24:35pm
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Belafon  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:25:12pm

re: #40 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

your ‘risk awareness’ isn’t.
there is no science behind it
you are crackpots
shoo

What actual experience would that be, Crazymothers?

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Belafon  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:26:14pm

They also don’t seem to recognize that the risk of vaccines is much, much lower than that of the diseases.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:30:19pm

Never mind

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:33:42pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:36:11pm

Grrrr — just today got 4 cell calls from the Social Security scam. I’ve now blocked the numbers but that certainly is insufficient because they will continue to find other numbers to use. My concern: since they are undoubtedly spoofing the numbers, could my action block legitimate calls?

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:37:57pm

re: #43 Belafon

What actual experience would that be, Crazymothers?

as you know:
‘experience’ = anecdote <> data

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:42:30pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:43:21pm

Emerson Corporation where my Wife works will start laying people off starting tomorrow.
She’s most likely safe as she admins the entire IT Div Executives, but it will be deep.

The Winning has started.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:44:10pm

re: #16 KGxvi

A very old good boy/girl discovered in Russia:

Discovered because of climate change. And so old that two rounds of genome sequencing can’t tell if it’s a dog or a wolf.

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danarchy  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:48:02pm

re: #38 Dave In Austin

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Are they implying that only women are anti-vaxxers? Isn’t Andrew Wakefield like the granddaddy of the anti-vaxx movement?

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:50:03pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

A very old good boy/girl discovered in Russia:

Discovered because of climate change. And so old that two rounds of genome sequencing can’t tell if it’s a dog or a wolf.

At that time, was there a clear divide between dogs and wolves? It would seem that the two species had not really separated then. After all, even today, they can interbreed and produce fertile offspring.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:55:17pm
at least eight states now have laws mandating active shooter drills in schools. But there’s little research yet that shows that those drills are effective. Meanwhile, a new comprehensive report from the U.S. Secret Service underlines the agency’s previous findings that there is one safety approach that does work: threat assessment, as part of a comprehensive program of social and emotional support for students.

NPR

doesnt involve using guns so it doesnt have a chance
way too ‘egghead’ and touchy/feely

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Targetpractice  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:56:37pm

re: #38 Dave In Austin

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House Vs. Anti-Vaxxer | House M.D.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:58:52pm

I’ll await her review, I have no wish to potentially corrupt my RAM

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:58:55pm

Hold on a minute, I just got something in my eye….

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 2, 2019 • 12:59:15pm

re: #53 Hecuba’s daughter

At that time, was there a clear divide between dogs and wolves? It would seem that the two species had not really separated then. After all, even today, they can interbreed and produce fertile offspring.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:01:47pm

re: #54 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

NPR

doesnt involve using guns so it doesnt have a chance
way too ‘egghead’ and touchy/feely

gun humpers are all over this:

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:05:08pm

re: #38 Dave In Austin

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Riffing off their Twitter handle, we should call them “Crazy Motherfuckers”

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:08:05pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

gun humpers are all over this:

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and they will never, ever understand that ‘threat assessment’ et al means that the kid never would have got into the classroom with a gun

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:11:58pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:13:22pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:14:57pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

would that all self described ‘witch-hunts’ end this way

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:18:07pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

NBC Politics

@NBCPolitics
UPDATE: US Rep. Duncan Hunter says he will now plead guilty to misusing campaign funds — a criminal case he had decried as a politically motivated “witch hunt.” nbcnews.to

So when is he going to resign? Better be this week.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:18:15pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:18:48pm

Turley? I see him presented as a liberal law professor, but when I hear him on NPR he comes off as mini-Dersh.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:19:51pm

re: #67 Barefoot Grin

Turley? I see him presented as a liberal law professor, but when I hear him on NPR he comes off as mini-Dersh.

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Turley repeatedly joined the tea baggers in calling for Obama’s impeachment!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:23:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:24:25pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:25:57pm

re: #65 Hecuba’s daughter

So when is he going to resign? Better be this week.

i read somewhere, (no citation) that it would be part of the plea deal

there are 60 counts, i read he’s copping to 1 count.
no way they can let him spin this into “i only did one small thing wrong”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:27:22pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If it comes down to that asshole or Cenk…

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:27:50pm

re: #68 Joe Bacon 🌹

Turley repeatedly joined the tea baggers in calling for Obama’s impeachment!

maybe that’s why

‘during the previous admin your standard for wanting to impeach obama was xxx.
how does this not….’

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:28:34pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Car Thief has talked about running in Hunter’s district. Car Thief would likely win if he did so.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:36:00pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’re calling us anti-gunners now? For fuck sakes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:37:24pm

re: #61 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

and they will never, ever understand that ‘threat assessment’ et al means that the kid never would have got into the classroom with a gun

Agreed 100%, I also personally think we should do what we can to stop them from bringing guns to school in the FIRST FUCKING PLACE.

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William Lewis  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:40:09pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

They’re calling us anti-gunners now? For fuck sakes.

They always have. It’s a standard bit of stochastic terrorism that they use.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:41:14pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

They’re calling us anti-gunners now? For fuck sakes.

Dear Media,
Please retire the use of the term
“anti-gunner”. It is derogatory,
inflammatory, and marginalizes us and
our experiences. It is dismissively
simplistic, highly offensive and
largely false. We politely request
that you refer to us as pro-life.

or something like that

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:43:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:43:58pm

moron

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:49:30pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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They should totally fire the guy who appointed Jay Powell then.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:51:01pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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If Republicans want to argue Trump did nothing wrong than I expect them to shut up if a Democratic President does anything close to what Trump has done. And yes I’m being tongue in cheek because Congressional Republicans have no shame.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:51:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:51:58pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We know what we’re protesting. Their shitty organization hasn’t been about gun ownership in a long time.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:52:24pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

If Republicans want to argue Trump did nothing wrong than I expect them to shut up if a Democratic President does anything close to what Trump has done. And yes I’m being tongue in cheek because Congressional Republicans have no shame.

then present fact witnesses and turn over exculpatory documents

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:53:13pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dude was convicted of lying to the Feds and he thinks he’s this stand up guy. Go away George. No one asked your opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:53:29pm

re: #85 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

then present fact witnesses and turn over exculpatory documents

But they don’t wanna.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:55:22pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Dude was convicted of lying to the Feds and he thinks he’s this stand up guy. Go away George. No one asked your opinion.

i definitely want my rep to be a convicted liar

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:57:36pm
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Florida Panhandler  Dec 2, 2019 • 1:58:04pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Trump wants to turn the entire country into his idea of a proper business model, which is to run up massive debt by a straight up con man and when the shit hits the fan walk away leaving the dumbasses to pick up the pieces.

In the past, Trump’s dumbasses were his fellow millionaire morons stupid enough to loan him money in the first place, eager to ingratiate themselves into the Trump NYC party scene.

This time however the dumbasses will be the American middle class, particularly those with savings as overflowing money supply means their hard-earned dollars mathematically evaporate. Their dumbassery is not to get into Trump’s inner circle of fellow jerk-offs, but to advance an overall white supremacist agenda.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:00:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:02:36pm
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William Lewis  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:05:03pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Latveria” LOL! Good one.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:05:55pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

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all these writings are meaningless drivel
they carry no weight

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:05:59pm

re: #93 William Lewis

“Latveria” LOL! Good one.

I was a little worried no one might get it

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:09:02pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

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History only begins with poor Trump being mistreated.//

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Jay C  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:09:29pm

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So was this the next rung on the judicial ladder before taking it to SCOTUS?

I know the WH is trying to spin this out ALAP - but I hadn’t expected a ruling this quickly.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:10:31pm

re: #96 HappyWarrior

History only begins with poor Trump being mistreated.//

none of his lot are historical or constitutional scholars
they have no sense of anything

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:12:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:14:18pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:15:22pm

This is for everyone clamoring to hear Ben Shapiro talk about orgasms.

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Jay C  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:15:48pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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OK, not quite as creepy as the first Trump-Admin WH Christmas (the one with the white-painted naked-branched “trees” lit from underneath), but still: does Melania think the fact that it’s called the “White House” mean that seasonal decorations with color are banned, somehow? (OK: one room had red flowers - roses??)

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Belafon  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:16:12pm

re: #101 gocart mozart

This is for everyone clamoring to hear Ben Shapiro talk about orgasms.

Dear Ben, that was the sound of a man belittling a woman.

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gocart mozart  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:16:35pm
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Belafon  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:16:41pm

re: #102 Jay C

OK, not quite as creepy as the first Trump-Admin WH Christmas (the one with the white-painted naked-branched “trees” lit from underneath), but still: does Melania think the fact that it’s called the “White House” mean that seasonal decorations with color are banned, somehow? (OK: one room had red flowers - roses??)

She only sees the world in noir.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:17:24pm

re: #101 gocart mozart

This is for everyone clamoring to hear Ben Shapiro talk about orgasms.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:17:53pm

re: #101 gocart mozart

This is for everyone clamoring to hear Ben Shapiro talk about orgasms.

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Ben and Trump are both people I could do without thinking about it let alone hearing their takes on orgasms.

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Jay C  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:18:14pm

re: #105 Belafon

She only sees the world in noir.

More like blanc: YMMV…..

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:19:30pm

re: #104 gocart mozart

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Yeah how dare a private citizen have a problem with potus mocking her from the bully pulpit. Maybe Elizabeth Warren can talk about the impotent bastards that run Fox and need racial and religious hatred to get going.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:20:16pm
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Belafon  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:20:42pm

re: #108 Jay C

More like blanc: YMMV…..

Only reason I said noir was black, white, and red. I’m not saying she pulls if off well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:28:23pm

That GOP Impeachment report is going to one be one big pile of bullshit.

and the Media are going to report on it like its some sort of valid and well thought out defense.

I’m sure it’s filled with bullshit talking points they are hoping to use to shift public opinion.

This is the Barr letter on the Mueller report times 50. We can NOT let them get away with it…AGAIN.

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Belafon  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:29:11pm

And this is why I think Beto should be considered for VP/Ambassador to Texas, he’s taking his Senate and Presidential run resources to try to flip the Texas House: dailykos.com.

Last year 17 Texas State House Republicans won their election by less than 10 points. We can flip these seats by reaching un-registered Democrats.

There are almost 90,000 people in these 17 target districts who have voted Democrat in the past but aren’t registered to vote at their current address.

We only have to win nine of these seats for Democrats to have a majority in the Texas legislature. Victories in these districts will mean an end to racist gerrymandering, and a chance to address gun violence, reproductive rights, Medicaid expansion, criminal justice and climate change in Texas.

Your donation will be used to send them pre-filled voter registration forms with stamped return envelopes.

Flip the Texas House is an organization that came out of our 2018 Senate campaign, “Beto Ambassadors” who are committed to ensuring that Texas lives up to its potential at this defining moment of truth. I couldn’t be more proud of what they’re doing.

Their work will also be very positive for Congressional races, helping us to hold two newly won seats and picking up more — 6 seats were won by Republicans with margins under 5%.

And these newly registered Democrats will help us make Texas competitive for our Presidential nominee.

In 2018, I carried nine of the 17 districts now represented by Republicans. So we know that we can do this.

We just need your help to make sure that we make the most of this opportunity.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:30:32pm

re: #113 Belafon

And this is why I think Beto should be considered for VP/Ambassador to Texas, he’s taking his Senate and Presidential run resources to try to flip the Texas House: dailykos.com.

Beto’s awesome. I still hold out hope that he could be President some day.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:32:37pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s like the first Kay’s Jewelers commercial she ever saw imprinted itself on her somehow.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:33:06pm

re: #102 Jay C

OK, not quite as creepy as the first Trump-Admin WH Christmas (the one with the white-painted naked-branched “trees” lit from underneath), but still: does Melania think the fact that it’s called the “White House” mean that seasonal decorations with color are banned, somehow? (OK: one room had red flowers - roses??)

Lest we forget 2018
The “Car Wash Christmas”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:34:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:37:56pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:40:38pm

She can’t just do a ‘Christmas’ themed Christmas?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:42:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:44:05pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:44:34pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Trump Victory JFC”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:45:16pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:50:06pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:51:18pm

re: #101 gocart mozart

This is for everyone clamoring to hear Ben Shapiro talk about orgasms.

Um yeah, has Ben even ever had an orgasm? I know he claims to be married, to a woman who is an MD no less! and has a son and a daughter by her…

but…

Has anyone ever met Dr. Shapiro? Does she go to another school? Like, in Saskatoon or Winnipeg?

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John Hughes  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:51:50pm

re: #6 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Apparently ethics and following the law is a left-leaning thing.

Uh, sorry to have to break it to you, but it is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:54:13pm
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makeitstop  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:55:03pm

Has this been posted here? I didn’t see it.

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John Hughes  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:55:15pm

re: #16 KGxvi

And so old that two rounds of genome sequencing can’t tell if it’s a dog or a wolf.

This is hard, because a wolf is a dog. They interbreed, they are the same species.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:55:17pm

re: #101 gocart mozart

This is for everyone clamoring to hear Ben Shapiro talk about orgasms.

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Ours always sound like The Great Gate of Kiev from Pictures at an Exhibition—the Ravel orchestration, not the piano original. And that brings us right back to the Ukraine brouhaha.

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Jay C  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:55:45pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Two acronyms come to mind:

LOL. and

YHGTBFKM……..

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:56:08pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Thank you! I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time.

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John Hughes  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:56:23pm

re: #19 Mike Lamb

Will there still be a NATO after this trip?

Maybe. The question is will the UK and the US be members?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 2:58:34pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:00:03pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

That GOP Impeachment report is going to one be one big pile of bullshit.

and the Media are going to report on it like its some sort of valid and well thought out defense.

I’m sure it’s filled with bullshit talking points they are hoping to use to shift public opinion.

This is the Barr letter on the Mueller report times 50. We can NOT let them get away with it…AGAIN.

one difference
this nonsense came out first

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:00:23pm
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John Hughes  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:06:07pm

re: #26 ericblair

The fun will probably be in the Europeans lining up to kick Macron in the balls

Any wimp ass little fucker who trie to “kick Macron in the balls” after he’s just finished the national hommage for the 13 soldiers who died in Mali last week while the rest of NATO sat on their fat useless arses is going to get fist fucked.

Macron told the truth. NATO is brain dead. It’s only real policy for the last 20 years has been containing the US and now that’s failed.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:08:29pm
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William Lewis  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:09:19pm

re: #137 John Hughes

Macron told the truth. NATO is brain dead. It’s only real policy for the last 20 years has been containing the US and now that’s failed.

Poland, the. Baltic States and others in Eastern Europe that haven’t been swallowed by Czar Putin would beg to differ.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:09:25pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:11:08pm

re: #137 John Hughes

Any wimp ass little fucker who trie to “kick Macron in the balls” after he’s just finished the national hommage for the 13 soldiers who died in Mali last week while the rest of NATO sat on their fat useless arses is going to get fist fucked.

Macron told the truth. NATO is brain dead. It’s only real policy for the last 20 years has been containing the US and now that’s failed.

Macron will console himself by polishing one of the 300 or so elements of the Force de Dissuasion.

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gocart mozart  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:15:25pm

Trouble in E Street Land? Who is Eric Carmen? This guy

Eric Carmen - Hungry Eyes


Also Amy Lofgren now follows me.

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gocart mozart  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:17:47pm
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Amory Blaine  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:19:11pm

Dynamic range database

dr.loudness-war.info

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:19:53pm

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

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makeitstop  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:19:54pm

re: #142 gocart mozart

Who is Eric Carmen?

He was well off the rails musically by that point. The day he signed with Clive Davis, he got a one-way ticket to Sappyland.

He was in The Raspberries and wrote ‘Go All The Way,’ which I considered in many ways to be the perfect pop single.

Too bad he’s turned into a complete asshole.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:22:08pm

re: #146 makeitstop

He was well off the rails musically by that point. The day he signed with Clive Davis, he got a one-way ticket to Sappyland.

He was in The Raspberries and wrote ‘Go All The Way,’ which I considered in many ways to be the perfect pop single.

Too bad he’s turned into a complete asshole.

Agree on all points except the first because I don’t know anything about that. But “Go All The Way” is a fun song. It’s a shame about Eric.

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plansbandc  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:22:10pm

Naughty Kitty…

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:22:39pm

re: #128 makeitstop

this i think is one (small) problem for the dems

it’s a moving target with a new revelation almost daily

so if that ‘no quid pro quo’ call that never was is the 18 minute gap
this stuff here are ‘the tapes’

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:22:55pm

re: #142 gocart mozart

Just wait till next week when Eric Carmen does the Kid Rock thing and trashes Oprah…

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gocart mozart  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:26:00pm

Maybe it was this tweet which wasn’t even tagged to him

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:27:37pm

I know you guys are writing Eric Carmen but my brain keeps parsing it as “Eric Cartman”.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:27:54pm

The amazing thing about Trump is that he really brings out the inner asshole of his supporters!

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makeitstop  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:28:33pm

re: #147 Barefoot Grin

Agree on all points except the first because I don’t know anything about that. But “Go All The Way” is a fun song. It’s a shame about Eric.

Clive Davis was the guy who persuaded him that he was an ‘important’ artist and should move in a more ‘adult’ direction.

The result? ‘All By Myself.’ Pretentious, self-important, sappy.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:29:01pm

re: #153 Joe Bacon 🌹

The amazing thing about Trump is that he really brings out the inner asshole of his supporters!

Almost like it’s some sort of prerequisite for being a supporter.
//

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:29:48pm

re: #146 makeitstop

The day he signed with Clive Davis, he got a one-way ticket to Sappyland.

And he stole Rachmaninoff’s scores in making his hits to boot.

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BigPapa  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:30:13pm

re: #143 gocart mozart

That’s some good sheet mayne.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:32:31pm

re: #154 makeitstop

Clive Davis was the guy who persuaded him that he was an ‘important’ artist and should move in a more ‘adult’ direction.

The result? ‘All By Myself.’ Pretentious, self-important, sappy.

I swear the first time I heard that my blood glucose shot up by 100 points.

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BigPapa  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:32:43pm

re: #152 Eclectic Cyborg

I know you guys are writing Eric Carmen but my brain keeps parsing it as “Eric Cartman”.

MEE TOO! Except he’s an old. Otherwise, yeah.

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John Hughes  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:38:08pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

1. Didn’t everybody do this as a kid? I thought that was what Scalextrics was for!

2. This is wrong:

I am amazed at the scientific logic by which he sets a pencil on fire and then tries to do exactly the same thing to just a pencil lead and is surprised by the result

Uh, there is no such thing as “scientific logic”. You do the experiment, like he did, and work out why after.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:38:17pm

re: #154 makeitstop

All By Myself

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gocart mozart  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:39:08pm
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Sherlock Hound  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:46:16pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good old ElectroBOOM!

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KGxvi  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:48:04pm

re: #97 Jay C

So was this the next rung on the judicial ladder before taking it to SCOTUS?

I know the WH is trying to spin this out ALAP - but I hadn’t expected a ruling this quickly.

Most likely this was in front of the trial judge who previously ruled for the committee. Post-judgment stay pending appeal, fairly common. Once they file their notice of appeal, they can seek a stay from the Court of Appeal. My guess is that the trial court judge is confident that (s)he will be upheld on appeal. Then again, a stay by the Court of Appeal doesn’t necessarily mean the panel will be inclined to reverse. This is sort of a “horse out of the barn” scenario where if McGahn is compelled to testify it would likely fall into “capable of repetition yet evading review” that would allow the appellate courts to rule even if the testimony is taken in this case.

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John Hughes  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:49:49pm

re: #139 William Lewis

Poland, the. Baltic States and others in Eastern Europe that haven’t been swallowed by Czar Putin would beg to differ.

Oh yes, and it’s the US and NATO that did that? Or was it their joining the EU?

The joke about the aid that Trump held back for the Ukraine? It was $250 million. EU aid was 3.3 billion EUR. (Yes, I know, the periods and designated uses are not exactly comparable).

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KGxvi  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:54:28pm

re: #165 John Hughes

Oh yes, and it’s the US and NATO that did that? Or was it their joining the EU?

The joke about the aid that Trump held back for the Ukraine? It was $250 million. EU aid was 3.3 billion EUR. (Yes, I know, the periods and designated uses are not exactly comparable).

Considering that most of those nations joined NATO before joining the EU, NATO probably played a pretty fucking big role.

Yes, let’s make sure not to give an ally needed weapons when they are at war with a common adversary who has already invaded their territory. Especially when that aid include anti-tank arms that would actually slow/stop an invasion.

The fuck, man… I mean, seriously, the fuck?

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 2, 2019 • 3:59:22pm

re: #148 plansbandc

Naughty Kitty…

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“Pip pip, cheerio!”

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:00:06pm
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John Hughes  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:00:11pm

ronre: #141 Decatur Deb

Macron will console himself by polishing one of the 300 or so elements of the Force de Dissuasion.

Look, I understand, it’s embarrassing to have a president who resembles a failed casino operator. But when somebody points that out you make yourself look ridiculous by making silly attacks on actual grown-ups.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:00:37pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:03:03pm

re: #129 John Hughes

This is hard, because a wolf is a dog. They interbreed, they are the same species.

To be pedantic — a dog is a subspecies of wolf. One can certainly argue that all dogs are domesticated wolves — but not all wolves are dogs

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:03:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:05:47pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:06:05pm

re: #168 jaunte

Alternate take: Number of Republicans in favor of Dictatorship up significantly

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Dread Pirate  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:09:01pm
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John Hughes  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:09:25pm

re: #171 Hecuba’s daughter

To be pedantic — a dog is a subspecies of wolf. One can certainly argue that all dogs are domesticated wolves — but not all wolves are dogs

“Subspecies” is the closest biology gets to “race”. It’s mostly bollocks.

(I’m in a bad mood, please ignore if you want to).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:12:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:15:24pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:17:07pm

re: #175 Dread Pirate

Bradley P. Moss

@BradMossEsq
Nope, you cannot. Whine harder.

Trump lying once again. Really? Does anyone believe he actually read the Republican report?

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BigPapa  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:18:26pm

Between Perot, Trump and now Steyer and Bloomberg, it clearly makes the case for rich motherfuckers running for office being a no go, fuck no, no fucking way, fuck that law.

Bloomberg’s media holdings blow the opened Pandora’s Box wide open.

In only got 5 fucks in there, this is the way to do it:

F it up - Louis Cole (Live Sesh)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:19:04pm

My arms hurt just watching this…

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:19:57pm

OT, but. All summer walking the dog through black flies, mosquitos, ticks, and her endless need to sniff every damn twig I longed for the first frost and snow that would cover the twigs. Today after 8” of snow I remembered why this is the season of pain. Walking the excited dog in the dark over just-plowed roads that are slick; a dog with a nose that sees through the snow to the smells below (so now I can’t see what she’s trying to eat); shoveling out two cars knowing that a second storm is approaching.

Last year I fell several times on walks as the dog pulled too hard. So my wife bought strap-on cleats at Ocean State Job Lots. Not only did the dog pull by down once on an icy spot, I had lost half the cleats by the time we got back. Better to spend $20 on quality than $5 at Ocean City, of course.

So I got a good pair and will try them out tonight on our last walk of the day. I’m looking forward to many fewer falls. I’m working on better walking habits for her, too. Nothing I can do about her scent drive, though.

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:20:33pm
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jaunte  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:20:49pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:23:54pm

And right on queue Barr disputes IG finding that FBI was justified in opening a probe of Trump’s 2016 campaign!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:25:23pm

re: #185 Joe Bacon 🌹

Post link to above:

washingtonpost.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:27:20pm

From the Post link:

Attorney General William P. Barr has told associates he disagrees with the Justice Department’s inspector general on one of the key findings in an upcoming report — that the FBI had enough information in July 2016 to justify launching an investigation into members of the Trump campaign, according to people familiar with the matter.

The Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, is due to release his long-awaited findings in a week, but behind the scenes at the Justice Department, disagreement has surfaced about one of Horowitz’s central conclusions on the origins of the Russia investigation. The discord could be the prelude to a major fissure within federal law enforcement on the controversial question of investigating a presidential campaign.

Barr has not been swayed by Horowitz’s rationale for concluding the FBI had sufficient basis to open an investigation on July 31, 2016, these people said.

Did we expect that crook to say anything else?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:30:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:32:17pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:34:33pm

re: #146 makeitstop

He was well off the rails musically by that point. The day he signed with Clive Davis, he got a one-way ticket to Sappyland.

He was in The Raspberries and wrote ‘Go All The Way,’ which I considered in many ways to be the perfect pop single.

Too bad he’s turned into a complete asshole.

Clive Davis got fired for being too corporate by The frickin’ Monkees.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:36:14pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:39:13pm
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Jay C  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:40:55pm

re: #187 Joe Bacon 🌹

Gee, what a shocker! Attorney General Barr apparently pissed off that the US Department of Justice might just be more interested in, y’now, Justice: than being Donald Trump’s personal law firm?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:41:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:43:34pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:45:27pm
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William Lewis  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:50:03pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But he is like Trump in that he’s an egotistical ass who thinks he deserves to be president just because he’s rich. Fuck him with the same pitchfork used on Trump.

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:53:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:55:26pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:58:05pm

re: #182 Barefoot Grin

OT, but. All summer walking the dog through black flies, mosquitos, ticks, and her endless need to sniff every damn twig I longed for the first frost and snow that would cover the twigs. Today after 8” of snow I remembered why this is the season of pain. Walking the excited dog in the dark over just-plowed roads that are slick; a dog with a nose that sees through the snow to the smells below (so now I can’t see what she’s trying to eat); shoveling out two cars knowing that a second storm is approaching.

Last year I fell several times on walks as the dog pulled too hard. So my wife bought strap-on cleats at Ocean State Job Lots. Not only did the dog pull by down once on an icy spot, I had lost half the cleats by the time we got back. Better to spend $20 on quality than $5 at Ocean City, of course.

So I got a good pair and will try them out tonight on our last walk of the day. I’m looking forward to many fewer falls. I’m working on better walking habits for her, too. Nothing I can do about her scent drive, though.

Good cleats are great.

A few years ago after a winter meeting at Gooseberry Falls State Park on the north shore of Lake Superior, the meeting leader invited us all to go for a walk on the frozen falls. With cleats, it was a fun walk and there were places that we could sneak behind the ice.

We were in between the upper and lower falls. There was a big red blotch on the ice at the base of the upper falls. We found out that someone trying to walk on the ice above the falls had lost their footing and couldn’t stop themselves as they slid down the ice and over the falls. They had to be helicoptered off to the hospital. I can just imagine how horrifying it felt to lose your footing and realize that you couldn’t stop it from happening, like a slow motion car crash.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 2, 2019 • 4:58:46pm

re: #197 William Lewis

But he is like Trump in that he’s an egotistical ass who thinks he deserves to be president just because he’s rich. Fuck him with the same pitchfork used on Trump.

Yes — he thinks he’s entitled because he’s rich BUT, unlike the other 3 billionaires, he does have real world governing experience — certainly more serious experience than Buttigieg. He didn’t decide that his initial attempt to be elected to office was a run for the presidency, without any prior public service.

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gocart mozart  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:00:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:00:42pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

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gocart mozart  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:04:12pm

Annoy the UK fascists

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:08:30pm
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VaughnIAM  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:09:00pm

re: #68 Joe Bacon 🌹

Turley was the defense lawyer for US District Judge Porteous when he was impeached and removed in 2010.

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stpaulbear  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:21:32pm

re: #190 stpaulbear

Clive Davis got fired for being too corporate by The frickin’ Monkees.

Oops. I got Don Kirshner mixed up with Clive Davis.

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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:22:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:22:41pm

*spit*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:24:55pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:25:51pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:27:13pm

Evening Lizardim. What fresh hell awaits as I finally check out from my personal bubble and re-enter reality?

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Belafon  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:27:44pm

re: #168 jaunte

Presidents COULD operate more effectively if they didn’t have Congress or the courts to deal with. But as much as I would like some things to happen faster, I’m not going to throw away our checks and balances to get there.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:30:26pm
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Romantic Heretic  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:32:54pm

re: #38 Dave In Austin

Lady? I don’t mind you wanting to be a hero.

Just don’t do it over the bodies of babies killed by preventable diseases,

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Belafon  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:33:00pm

re: #175 Dread Pirate

Posting this for the gif:

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:33:34pm

Yep.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:34:57pm

re: #213 Belafon

Presidents COULD operate more effectively if they didn’t have Congress or the courts to deal with. But as much as I would like some things to happen faster, I’m not going to throw away our checks and balances to get there.

And you know they’re only doing this because they’re mad that Trump isn’t getting any of his shitty promises done. If Trump had a sane and rational agenda and was getting things accomplished, working with Congress instead of against them, it wouldn’t be a thing.

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Belafon  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:35:20pm

re: #176 John Hughes

“Subspecies” is the closest biology gets to “race”. It’s mostly bollocks.

(I’m in a bad mood, please ignore if you want to).

And warming doesn’t necessarily mean heating up when you’re using the terms scientifically. There’s a reason they do that. Next thing you know you’ll want to stop using the term “collie”.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:37:13pm

re: #50 Dave In Austin

The Winning has started.

The ambulatory fungus promised we’d be sick of winning, and we are.

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mmmirele  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:37:33pm

re: #67 Barefoot Grin

Turley? I see him presented as a liberal law professor, but when I hear him on NPR he comes off as mini-Dersh.

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He’s a mini Dersh. He was the lawyer for the Utah polygamist family (you know, the ones on TV) that claimed Utah County was being mean to them and they had to move to Las Vegas. Well, he fronted a case to try and declare Utah’s anti-polygamy law unconstitutional, but he forgot (or deliberately ignored) that you need a case in controversy. In this instance, it would require an arrest for practicing polygamy, which never happened. The 10th Circuit drop kicked the case for that reason.

I used to have some respect for the guy, but when he did that, when he is a LAW PROFESSOR and should KNOW BETTER, that just made me think he was a jackass. More recent pro-Trump statements have not changed my mind.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:42:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:48:48pm

oh

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Belafon  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:49:13pm

re: #201 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes — he thinks he’s entitled because he’s rich BUT, unlike the other 3 billionaires, he does have real world governing experience — certainly more serious experience than Buttigieg. He didn’t decide that his initial attempt to be elected to office was a run for the presidency, without any prior public service.

Both Bloomberg and Pete were mayors.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:58:03pm

re: #153 Joe Bacon 🌹

The amazing thing about Trump is that he really brings out the inner asshole of his supporters!

Since those were never well camouflaged that’s not surprising.

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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2019 • 5:58:34pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:00:00pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:00:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:05:01pm
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retired cynic  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:06:10pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Excellent tweet!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:06:26pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Friendly reminder: Mike Pence was about to lose his job as Governor of Indiana before he signed on with Donald Trump.

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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:12:51pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:14:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:14:45pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:16:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:19:34pm

irony is dead

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:20:36pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course they are.

It’s impossible for them to win without cheating.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:21:24pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They should be telling that to Devin Nunes.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:22:18pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

irony is dead

[Embedded content]

Yeah, but he’s just as stupid as when he arrived here.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:23:41pm
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retired cynic  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:27:01pm

re: #240 Dread Pirate

The next president is going to have such an international mess to untangle!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:27:40pm

re: #232 teleskiguy

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Jay C  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:30:54pm

re: #240 Dread Pirate

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Aren’t “Swiss”, “Gruyere” and “Pecorino” cheeses, respectively (duh!!!) Swiss, Swiss, and Italian (rather than French)?

Or is “weird foreign cheese” enough of a “definition” for the Trump regime….?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:32:18pm

re: #243 Jay C

Aren’t “Swiss”, “Gruyere” and “Pecorino” cheeses, respectively (duh!!!) Swiss, Swiss, and Italian (rather than French)?

Or is “weird foreign cheese” enough of a “definition” for the Trump regime….?

I’d assume that they can be made anywhere, regardless of the country or region for which they are best known. That being said, it seems like it’d be more effective if they targeted actual French cheeses.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:35:30pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

Convicted felon says what?

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:36:25pm

re: #227 Dave In Austin

LOL loved that!

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:36:49pm

re: #240 Dread Pirate

Is Ivanka making handbags now?

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retired cynic  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:40:10pm

re: #247 jaunte

Is Ivanka making handbags now?

LOL!

Except that is probably true, and not really funny at all.

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uriel  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:42:28pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dread Pirate  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:42:32pm
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retired cynic  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:43:49pm

re: #250 Dread Pirate

DAMN them.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:47:20pm
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jaunte  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:51:14pm

re: #250 Dread Pirate

owned by a GOP donor

Our new national motto.

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2019 • 6:57:07pm
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jaunte  Dec 2, 2019 • 7:01:27pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 2, 2019 • 7:03:41pm

re: #249 uriel

The gap between rich and poor people that go to prison is quite wide, which Douchesouza would know quite a bit about.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 2, 2019 • 7:07:15pm

That was pretty much a known lie when he said it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 2, 2019 • 7:07:52pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 2, 2019 • 7:11:35pm

re: #258 Dread Pirate

He couldn’t have served again even if he wanted to. It would’ve been highly unlikely that the Senate would have granted him another extension after he was granted a two-year extension at Obama’s request.

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jaunte  Dec 2, 2019 • 7:15:36pm
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plansbandc  Dec 2, 2019 • 9:02:41pm

re: #250 Dread Pirate

It’s going to completely ruin that preserve. And for nothing. His vindictive destruction of irreplaceable things reminds me of the Taliban blowing up ancient artifacts.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 3, 2019 • 3:05:05am

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Redrum

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sagehen  Dec 3, 2019 • 4:24:26am

re: #197 William Lewis

But he is like Trump in that he’s an egotistical ass who thinks he deserves to be president just because he’s rich. Fuck him with the same pitchfork used on Trump.

Not “just because he’s rich”.

Bloomberg was a successful 12-year mayor of a city that contains 13 congressional districts. A total population over 8 million. There’s 35 States that have less than that.

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retired cynic  Dec 3, 2019 • 7:07:24am

re: #264 sagehen

I agree with this, certainly, but I still don’t want him in the race!


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