Natalia Lafourcade - Aventurera

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Más de Natalia Lafourcade:
Hasta La Raíz: http://smarturl.it/NLhlr
Lo Que Construimos: http://smarturl.it/NLlqc
Nuncaes suficiente: http://smarturl.it/NLnes

Natalia cuenta que para la realización de este álbum se puso a escuchar diferentes canciones de Agustín Lara, generando que cada una fuera como una caricia a su corazón, tanto la música como las letras del querido Flaco De Oro. Además de contar con diferentes colaboraciones en cada una de las canciones, dándole un sonido más fresco a la música del maestro Lara.

Music video by Natalia Lafourcade a Dueto con Alex Ferreira performing Aventurera. (C) 2013 Sony Music Entertainment México, S.A. de C.V.

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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2019 • 8:58:46pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 4, 2019 • 9:00:48pm

Here’s another good solo

NILS LOFGREN - GREAT SOLO - BECAUSE THE NIGHT

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makeitstop  Dec 4, 2019 • 9:03:02pm

Natalia Lafourcade is wonderful. My wife and I just watched a bunch of her videos. Excellent, thank you.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 4, 2019 • 9:24:06pm

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ckkatz  Dec 4, 2019 • 9:27:29pm

Heh, I was trying to figure out why Natalia Lafourcade looked so young, why her music was less complex, and where the rest of her band was. Then I realized that the video was from 2013.

Nice video and good song, thanks!

edit - added compliment on song.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2019 • 9:56:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 4, 2019 • 10:08:11pm

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

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He’s so full of shit.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2019 • 10:20:56pm

Starting to look like Horowitz and Durham worked together to outmaneuver Barr, so that he couldn’t go out with his deceptive summary spin like he did with the Mueller report. Durham, an institutionalist, doesn’t want to appear openly insubordinate but also also conveniently cannot lie to the IG.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 4, 2019 • 10:24:05pm

Always a tweet:

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Dave In Austin  Dec 4, 2019 • 10:28:46pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 4, 2019 • 11:00:43pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 4, 2019 • 11:08:58pm
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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Dec 4, 2019 • 11:21:57pm

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

The stage where there’s a pro-wrestling personality as president

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Dread Pirate  Dec 4, 2019 • 11:24:05pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:59:23am

It has often been noted that “Christmas” as a holiday in the US is all about nostalgia for the 1940’s to the early 1960’s, and that the music play, overplayed and driven into the ground, is about stimulating feelings of nostalgia.

Well, that’s all true.

And I don’t care.

So here is the iconic sound track that epitomizes the good/bad that Christmas music is:

𝐁𝐔𝐑𝐋 𝐈𝐕𝐄𝐒 / 𝐑𝐮𝐝𝐨𝐥𝐩𝐡 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐑𝐞𝐝 𝐍𝐨𝐬𝐞𝐝 𝐑𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐞𝐫 / 𝟏𝟗-𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐂𝐡𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐦𝐚𝐬 𝐀𝐥𝐛𝐮𝐦

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 5, 2019 • 1:04:34am

There are a couple of wonderful songs on that album. Ok, it also has Charles’ nemesis of an earworm… but I do enjoy some of those songs.

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Teukka  Dec 5, 2019 • 1:16:08am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2019 • 1:22:08am

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

Which developmental stage of Idiocracy are we currently inhabiting?

If Kanye runs for Prez in 2024, we will have reached Full Idiocracy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2019 • 1:41:01am

re: #15 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It has often been noted that “Christmas” as a holiday in the US is all about nostalgia for the 1940’s to the early 1960’s, and that the music play, overplayed and driven into the ground, is about stimulating feelings of nostalgia.

Well, that’s all true.

And I don’t care.

It is for me in any case, problem is that it hearkens back to a time when the minority of non-Christians and atheists/agnostics did not dare challenge the notion of a Christian religious display on public property paid for with tax money.

In other words, before The War on Christmas

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Dread Pirate  Dec 5, 2019 • 2:17:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2019 • 2:20:27am

re: #20 Dread Pirate

If the US doesn’t stop harming the world and join rulemaking, some other countries will make the rules.

The notion behind MAGA and America First is that we make & enforce the rules, and everybody is too afraid or beholden to us to say anything about them, even if we choose to break them…

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LastYearsMan  Dec 5, 2019 • 2:46:01am

re: #20 Dread Pirate

Pretty ballsy take for the GT. Is China about to start following rules? Because Michael Korvig and Michael Spavor would love to hear it. (Not to mention millions of Uyghurs, etc., etc.).

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2019 • 3:15:51am

re: #21 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Awful nice country you got ‘dere, shame if something happened to it.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 5, 2019 • 3:19:01am

re: #22 LastYearsMan

The United States has no claim to moral authority in this world.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 5, 2019 • 3:56:06am

Cheetah teenagers forming a gang:

Spotting A Rare Group of 8 Cheetah! | Seven Worlds, One Planet | BBC Earth

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 4:33:53am

re: #15 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It has often been noted that “Christmas” as a holiday in the US is all about nostalgia for the 1940’s to the early 1960’s, and that the music play, overplayed and driven into the ground, is about stimulating feelings of nostalgia.

Well, that’s all true.

And I don’t care.

So here is the iconic sound track that epitomizes the good/bad that Christmas music is:

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to me commercialized christmas and thanksgiving have a common undertone that everyone is doing and feeling the same thing. That if you’re not, then there is something wrong with you, you are missing out, and you should get with the program. Traveling ‘home’, ‘family’ gatherings, music, food, gift giving, forced revelry, ‘traditions’ that never were in the first place except in the minds of ad-men and lyricists, twisting and turning myths into some ‘sense’ all in pursuit of sales.

i’m reminded of the comedian who said something like ‘it’s the time of year you look forward to traveling home and 30 minutes after you arrive remember why you live 3,000 miles away.’

i’m not a scrooge and i don’t begrudge anyone their dreams, fantasies, or whatever they look forward to. It’s just not for me.

the only music i play every year is Duke Ellington’s Three Suites, and the Lieutenant Kije Suite (which of course had nothing to do with xmas, but was appropriated (Troika) and even put to sappy words.

in fact it’s music so good, i play them all year long. Try doing that with “White Christmas” in May.

YouTube

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2019 • 4:40:17am

re: #26 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

I know that from Britain, where traditionally, the entire burden of Christmas preparation, decoration, baking, pudding-making, gift-wrapping, card-sending, cooking and serving falls on the housewife, and they are somehow expected to be a frazzled mess by the end of it all…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:01:42am

I’m shocked, shocked I say!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:11:05am

re: #28 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m shocked, shocked I say!

And we were convinced that we would have to send in armed Patriots into those neighborhoods to liberate American women from being stoned for appearing in public without a chador…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:26:15am

re: #28 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m shocked, shocked I say!

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Of course they did. They knew they would stir up paranoia but they did it anyway and it helped make Jones not only famous but wealthy. So way to go dumbasses, your fears were used to make Alex Jones rich.

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Citizen K  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:33:57am

The assumption of good faith from the GOP that the media continually extends at all times is going to be the death of us all. Especially when it’s constantly coupled with the assumption of bad faith and illegitimacy on the Dems part. Any fucking hack can spew an attack line from the Republicans and be treated and dignified like they just said a gospel truth. Dems say something true and non-controversial, and they’re screamed down for daring to criticize their betters.

This is why I have precious little faith that anything will come of this process. The media has picked its side, and will ensure that disinformation rules and that the GOP is the eternal victim to be pitied, even as they rob us blind and tear down all our institutions from within.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:39:52am

re: #31 Citizen K

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The assumption of good faith from the GOP that the media continually extends at all times is going to be the death of us all. Especially when it’s constantly coupled with the assumption of bad faith and illegitimacy on the Dems part. Any fucking hack can spew an attack line from the Republicans and be treated and dignified like they just said a gospel truth. Dems say something true and non-controversial, and they’re screamed down for daring to criticize their betters.

This is why I have precious little faith that anything will come of this process. The media has picked its side, and will ensure that disinformation rules and that the GOP is the eternal victim to be pitied, even as they rob us blind and tear down all our institutions from within.

Really clutching their pearls there.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:40:57am

re: #28 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m shocked, shocked I say!

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When relatives INSIST that there are Muslim “no-go zones” in Los Angeles and you tell them there are no such things and they will not believe you because Info Whores says that they exist…Oh I hope those Sandy Hook parents take that fucking Asshole Alex Jones to the cleaners…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:42:59am

re: #31 Citizen K

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The assumption of good faith from the GOP that the media continually extends at all times is going to be the death of us all. Especially when it’s constantly coupled with the assumption of bad faith and illegitimacy on the Dems part. Any fucking hack can spew an attack line from the Republicans and be treated and dignified like they just said a gospel truth. Dems say something true and non-controversial, and they’re screamed down for daring to criticize their betters.

This is why I have precious little faith that anything will come of this process. The media has picked its side, and will ensure that disinformation rules and that the GOP is the eternal victim to be pitied, even as they rob us blind and tear down all our institutions from within.

The American media is absolutely useless. This is why we need British style libel laws to hold these Presstitutes and GOP Stenographers accountable.

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jeffreyw  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:45:42am

Good morning!

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Citizen K  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:46:31am

re: #34 Joe Bacon 🌹

The American media is absolutely useless. This is why we need British style libel laws to hold these Presstitutes and GOP Stenographers accountable.

Sadly we’re more likely to have laws that will allow GOPers to sue the press if factual and relevant info that just happens to be bad for them is reported, because they’ll make it so “fake news” is an instant-win button for them.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:48:42am

These guys court the support of people who talk about hanging journalists. That’s who Barron’s father is supported by. Barron’s mom showed she doesn’t care about refugee kids. Frankly neither of them have shown anything that suggests they really care about Barron as a person but just to use him as a shield for criticism. The point made about barons and the kid’s name was relevant given the undue influence on the presidency that Barron’s older sister and brother in law have as well as the RNC buying his brother’s book in bulk. She also apologized immediately. Right wingers can dish it out but they can’t take it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:50:07am

re: #33 Joe Bacon 🌹

When relatives INSIST that there are Muslim “no-go zones” in Los Angeles and you tell them there are no such things and they will not believe you because Info Whores says that they exist…Oh I hope those Sandy Hook parents take that fucking Asshole Alex Jones to the cleaners…

As far as I’m concerned Alex Jones is nothing more than a Julius Streicher for our times.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:51:15am

re: #38 HappyWarrior

As far as I’m concerned Alex Jones is nothing more than a Julius Streicher for our times.

When pressed into a corner, he really fell back on the defense that it was just “performance art” and not ´meant to be taken literally or seriously.

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Citizen K  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:54:41am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When pressed into a corner, he really fell back on the defense that it was just “performance art” and not ´meant to be taken literally or seriously.

It’s the same defense that Fox made when they were in court over whether they had an obligation to tell the truth, that they were entertainment and thus didn’t have such an obligation.

They won that case, reminder. And yet still treated as the great arbiter of truth by half the country, and the narrative setter by so much of the rest of the press.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:57:57am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When pressed into a corner, he really fell back on the defense that it was just “performance art” and not ´meant to be taken literally or seriously.

He already is. Will the courts agree? TBH I think it is an act for him but it doesn’t change that he’s inspired violence.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:59:02am

re: #40 Citizen K

It’s the same defense that Fox made when they were in court over whether they had an obligation to tell the truth, that they were entertainment and thus didn’t have such an obligation.

They won that case, reminder. And yet still treated as the great arbiter of truth by half the country, and the narrative setter by so much of the rest of the press.

If they want to be entertainment, then they have a responsibility to present themselves as such. Instead they call themselves news and attack actual journalists in the process. They want it both ways.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2019 • 5:59:16am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

He already is. Will the courts agree? TBH I think it is an act for him but it doesn’t change that he’s inspired violence.

Alex Jones and Shithead SMOTI need to be made examples of. They need to be held accountable for the lies they fabricate!

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:00:14am

have you seen this yet?

Joe Biden released a devastating video just minutes after President Trump returned from the NATO summit in London.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:00:48am

re: #43 Joe Bacon 🌹

Alex Jones and Shithead SMOTI need to be made examples of. They need to be held accountable for the lies they fabricate!

I agree. Don’t know of any litigation against smoti but there’s plenty against Jones.

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Jay C  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:02:02am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When pressed into a corner, he really fell back on the defense that it was just “performance art” and not ´meant to be taken literally or seriously.

Riiiiight! All “just a joke” then? All just part of the “post-truth” era?
Bleeech: I can’t figure out what’s the worse scenario: that Alex Jones is just a stock con-man spinning sick conspiracy tales to fleece the rubes, or that he actually (in some part) actually believes the shit he peddled. My favorite line from that NYT piece:

“Look at this great city shot,” he said pointing out the window at Austin’s skyline. As soon as I pulled the camera off him, he reached for the white Dixie cup [filled with vodka] . Is this really how I’m going to die? I thought to myself, imagining the scene: Jones veering too close to the guardrail, ranting about George Soros and Hillary Clinton. Sirens echoing in the distance, flashing lights reflecting off oil-soaked pavement as he grabs the camera and utters his final words, “Hillary … rigged … the car.” His listeners would have believed it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:02:13am

re: #45 HappyWarrior

I agree. Don’t know of any litigation against smoti but there’s plenty against Jones.

Isn’t SMOTI still tagged in the Charlottesville libel case?

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Citizen K  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:02:58am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:03:35am

re: #44 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

have you seen this yet?

Joe Biden released a devastating video just minutes after President Trump returned from the NATO summit in London.

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It’s a good one. Hope he does a follow up showing how he will. I actually trust Biden the most on FP of anyone running. I don’t always agree with him but I know it will be an informed decision.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:03:35am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

He already is. Will the courts agree? TBH I think it is an act for him but it doesn’t change that he’s inspired violence.

Unless you disclaim every day during every “performance”, then the effects are reasonably forseeable

And he can’t disclaim at all because he’d have no audience
Just like Limbaugh. No one would listen if he had to remind them it’s all just a show

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:03:58am

re: #47 Joe Bacon 🌹

Isn’t SMOTI still tagged in the Charlottesville libel case?

I’m not sure.

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LastYearsMan  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:05:07am

re: #24 Dread Pirate

The United States has no claim to moral authority in this world.

Well, I never thought it did. Or not much of one. My point was just that it was quite a position for the Global Times to take, being a Chinese propaganda outlet.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:05:40am

re: #50 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

Unless you disclaim every day during every “performance”, then the effects are reasonably forseeable

And he can’t disclaim at all because he’d have no audience
Just like Limbaugh. No one would listen if he had to remind them it’s all just a show

It was never satire. TDS with Jon Stewart always was. OTOH both Jones and Limbaugh sold themselves as telling the truth. They only fell back on the satire line when they got called out.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:08:26am

re: #52 LastYearsMan

Well, I never thought it did. Or not much of one. My point was just that it was quite a position for the Global Times to take, being a Chinese propaganda outlet.

What China is doing that Trump and his guys are too pigheaded to notice is the soft power game. Trump’s terrible global leadership does put us in a precarious position in how we’re viewed.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:08:28am

re: #53 HappyWarrior

It was never satire. TDS with Jon Stewart always was. OTOH both Jones and Limbaugh sold themselves as telling the truth. They only fell back on the satire line when they got called out.

Precis

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:12:23am

That was a great video, thank you Charles for posting something I’d never find on my own.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:14:32am

Nancy Pelosi is asking for impeachment. Well spoken

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:15:28am

re: #57 Rightwingconspirator

Nancy Pelosi is asking for impeachment. Well spoken

I am happy. Not surprised, but pleased that it has been stated.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:17:12am

re: #57 Rightwingconspirator

Nancy Pelosi is asking for impeachment. Well spoken

Good. He needs to be impeached.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:19:50am

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Good. He needs to be impeached.

He needs to be Impeached and Convicted.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:22:44am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He needs to be Impeached and Convicted.

Well yes.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:23:10am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He needs to be Impeached and Convicted.

And that is the rub; I don’t think that will happen.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:24:12am

re: #62 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And that is the rub; I don’t think that will happen.

The Democrats need to make the case that the Senate Republicans have ignored the evidence. Graham and Kennedy come to mind.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:24:22am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He needs to be Impeached and Convicted.

I’d impeach him and keep the investigations open. Don’t even send it to the Senate, just vote to impeach and let it hang over his head for a year.

Make him soak in it.

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William Lewis  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:24:38am

re: #26 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

I like Christmas Eve and midnight mass. I enjoy the music that day. I can tolerate it the following 12. The rest of Christmas needs to to burn.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:24:43am

re: #62 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And that is the rub; I don’t think that will happen.

And the GOP will call it a victory.

We cannot let them do that. We have to continue to remind the public of the facts that were laid out during the hearings and remind them that the GOP Senate was too craven to do what it had to do, and call on American voters to finish the job for them.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:25:26am

Reminder

In the 1868 Impeachment of Andrew Johnson the House voted to impeach first and then adopted the articles of impeachment a week later.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:27:30am

re: #67 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reminder

In the 1868 Impeachment of Andrew Johnson the House voted to impeach first and then adopted the articles of impeachment a week later.

I did not know that, quite illuminating.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:28:08am

He’s going to do something again that will remind us why impeachment and removal is necessary. The Republicans can claim this is being rushed all they want but they haven’t made any credible defenses of what he will be impeached over. And their own words about wanting to impeach HRC too.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:29:04am

re: #69 HappyWarrior

He’s going to do something again that will remind us why impeachment and removal is necessary. The Republicans can claim this is being rushed all they want but they haven’t made any credible defenses of what he will be impeached over. And their own words about wanting to impeach HRC too.

This.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:29:24am

re: #67 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reminder

In the 1868 Impeachment of Andrew Johnson the House voted to impeach first and then adopted the articles of impeachment a week later.

If Trump has a historical counterpart, Johnson is close.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:32:10am

re: #70 Rightwingconspirator

This.

It’s repeated abuses of power. And there seems to be more. Saw a story today about a former diplomat being fired for having used a story positively referencing Obama. This speaks to what the career diplomatic corps testified in regard to Ukraine that they are undermined by political appointees more interested in aiding Trump personally than effective FP.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:34:55am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:35:59am

Republicans want to act like this is a one time only thing but it’s behavior like this that has defined the Trump presidency. He also sees nothing wrong with what he did which is why censuring him would be an empty gesture.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:36:48am

re: #31 Citizen K

Chelsea Clinton had no comment. She is a much more gracious person than I could be.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:37:56am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He needs to be Impeached and Convicted.

I’m gonna keep pedanting

The house impeaches. Full stop. That stain cannot be erased.
The Senate removes or doesn’t. And/ or bars further office

There is no convict, exoneration, guilty or not guilty

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:38:52am

re: #64 makeitstop

I’d impeach him and keep the investigations open. Don’t even send it to the Senate, just vote to impeach and let it hang over his head for a year.

Make him soak in it.

This!
Lawrence tribe suggested this months ago

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:39:22am

re: #75 Sherlock Hound

Chelsea Clinton had no comment. She is a much more gracious person than I could be.

She’s defended Barron a couple times when people have been out of bounds. If Republicans want to puff outrage, they need to look at how they and their allies have acted. The professor’s remarks were pretty damn tame.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:39:44am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

It’s repeated abuses of power. And there seems to be more. Saw a story today about a former diplomat being fired for having used a story positively referencing Obama. This speaks to what the career diplomatic corps testified in regard to Ukraine that they are undermined by political appointees more interested in aiding Trump personally than effective FP.

was that the one where he was given the duty to fill FOIA requests, so he quit?

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:40:47am

re: #66 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And the GOP will call it a victory.

We cannot let them do that. We have to continue to remind the public of the facts that were laid out during the hearings and remind them that the GOP Senate was too craven to do what it had to do, and call on American voters to finish the job for them.

“Senate R’s are behaving like they are active co-conspirators”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:40:56am

re: #76 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

I’m gonna keep pedanting

The house impeaches. Full stop. That stain cannot be erased.
The Senate removes or doesn’t. And/ or bars further office

There is no convict, exoneration, guilty or not guilty

Trump is too stained for that to be noticed.

The positive aspect that I see coming from this is that the atmosphere and the level of discourse seen and heard at the hearings was much higher than the dumpster fire of the MSM or the fever swamps of social media.

We got to hear from diplomats, legal experts and eyewitnesses and although the GOP did their best to dismiss them, they were not completely drowned out by both-siderism or Russian bots.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:41:19am

re: #79 Colère Tueur de Lapin

was that the one where he was given the duty to fill FOIA requests, so he quit?

re: #79 Colère Tueur de Lapin

was that the one where he was given the duty to fill FOIA requests, so he quit?

It’s this one. m.huffpost.com
You’re not allowed to act like Trump’s predecessor had insight.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:41:24am

I did not know this. They could impeach him again if the first one doesn’t take.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:44:31am

re: #31 Citizen K

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The assumption of good faith from the GOP that the media continually extends at all times is going to be the death of us all. Especially when it’s constantly coupled with the assumption of bad faith and illegitimacy on the Dems part. Any fucking hack can spew an attack line from the Republicans and be treated and dignified like they just said a gospel truth. Dems say something true and non-controversial, and they’re screamed down for daring to criticize their betters.

This is why I have precious little faith that anything will come of this process. The media has picked its side, and will ensure that disinformation rules and that the GOP is the eternal victim to be pitied, even as they rob us blind and tear down all our institutions from within.

PS it was not “derisive”

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:44:53am

re: #73 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE ABUSE OF POWER TURLEY SAID SO!

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:46:03am

re: #78 HappyWarrior

She’s defended Barron a couple times when people have been out of bounds. If Republicans want to puff outrage, they need to look at how they and their allies have acted. The professor’s remarks were pretty damn tame.

Yeah, spare me the snowflakey GOP crocodile tears. Team Trump has been shitting all over everyone for four years.

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Jay C  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:47:45am

re: #83 makeitstop

I did not know this. They could impeach him again if the first one doesn’t take.

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Theoretically, yes.
But unless we somehow get 67 Democrats in the next Senate, it would likely play out the same way.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:47:58am

re: #48 Citizen K

flipping desks

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:48:29am

re: #83 makeitstop

I did not know this. They could impeach him again if the first one doesn’t take.

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And they could take up others of his many impeachable offenses while they’re at it.

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Citizen K  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:48:57am

re: #88 Sir John Barron

flipping desks

There are never enough tables to flip for this kind of shit.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:50:11am
In a tweet late last night he said that he didn’t mean himself when he said “us,” writing: “When I said, in my phone call to the President of Ukraine, ‘I would like you to do US a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it.’ With the word “us” I am referring to the United States, our Country.”

Funny how no one, absolutely no one offered that explanation/”,interpretation” until yesterday after one of the law profs said out loud what everybody already knew:. You were speaking subtly and in coded guarded language

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:50:27am

re: #76 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

I’m gonna keep pedanting

The house impeaches. Full stop. That stain cannot be erased.
The Senate removes or doesn’t. And/ or bars further office

There is no convict, exoneration, guilty or not guilty

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

It is used in the constitution.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:51:08am

re: #87 Jay C

Theoretically, yes.
But unless we somehow get 67 Democrats in the next Senate, it would likely play out the same way.

Unless massive new info comes out
And if course first he’s gotta win and I’m not gonna let that happen

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:54:43am

re: #15 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It has often been noted that “Christmas” as a holiday in the US is all about nostalgia for the 1940’s to the early 1960’s, and that the music play, overplayed and driven into the ground, is about stimulating feelings of nostalgia.

Well, that’s all true.

And I don’t care.

So here is the iconic sound track that epitomizes the good/bad that Christmas music is:

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Sir John Barron  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:55:23am

re: #28 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m shocked, shocked I say!

Fox Viewer: But, but, but, we’ve seen them!

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:55:32am

re: #92 Belafon

It is used in the constitution.

Right. My error.
I’ll take it out of the mix.
There is definitely no “exoneration”.
He will never not be impeached and that gives me some measure of..call it justice

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jeffreyw  Dec 5, 2019 • 6:55:55am

re: #90 Citizen K

There are never enough tables to flip for this kind of shit.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:09:18am

re: #96 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

Right. My error.
I’ll take it out of the mix.
There is definitely no “exoneration”.
He will never not be impeached and that gives me some measure of..call it justice

Yep. The stain of impeachment will be there. Otherwise they’d stop invoking Clinton.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:28:53am

Gee, you think he’s upset?

//

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:30:11am
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:36:20am

Uncle Blazer makes a lot of sense in this great thread:

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:39:42am

re: #101 Flying Squirrel Girl

Uncle Blazer makes a lot of sense in this great thread:

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So they are going to let it hang over his head. Smart move.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:41:42am

There’s still so much more to uncover here. And this will help debunk the ‘Ukraine did it’ conspiracy theory.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:45:02am

re: #101 Flying Squirrel Girl

Uncle Blazer makes a lot of sense in this great thread:

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this is very smart and i hope it’s close to what the actual plan is

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:50:14am

Uncle Blazer makes the excellent point that there is a lot more to discover. And also that the outlines are fairly obvious, but the details need to be found.

I think that there are several other reasons for not being in a rush that he did not mention…

1. It means that the Impeachment process keeps control of the new cycle rather than surrendering it back to the Republicans (Trump and Senate).

2. The Democrats still need to corner McConnell like a trapped rat so that he and the Senate Republicans will either do the right thing or will face severe consequences in November.

3. Continuing the impeachment process seems to be helping the Democratic candidates in National elections. Why surrender that without any sort of benefit from the Republicans.

I think that Ms Pelosi is going to pursue this as long it keeps bringing dividends. And good for her!

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:51:06am

re: #104 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

He’s been right in other threads about how the financial cases would wind through the courts and eventually be decided. I hope he continues to be right.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:51:35am

If time has shown us anything, it’s that Pelosi has a keen understanding of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:52:43am

re: #4 Joe Bacon 🌹

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TFW even Boris Johnson is laughing at you

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:54:34am

This Nazi’s Twitter account was TEMPORARILY LIMITED but VB was PEMANENTLY SUSPENDED.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:55:03am

re: #105 ckkatz

Uncle Blazer makes the excellent point that there is a lot more to discover. And also that the outlines are fairly obvious, but the details need to be found.

I think that there are several other reasons for not being in a rush that he did not mention…

1. It means that the Impeachment process keeps control of the new cycle rather than surrendering it back to the Republicans (Trump and Senate).

2. The Democrats still need to corner McConnell like a trapped rat so that he and the Senate Republicans will either do the right thing or will face severe consequences in November.

3. Continuing the impeachment process seems to be helping the Democratic candidates in National elections. Why surrender that without any sort of benefit from the Republicans.

I think that Ms Pelosi is going to pursue this as long it keeps bringing dividends. And good for her!

i read something a long time back that suggested sending the article to the senate in september or october

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:55:44am

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

This Nazi’s Twitter account was TEMPORARILY LIMITED but VB was PEMANENTLY SUSPENDED.

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Free the Babushka!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:56:13am

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

This Nazi’s Twitter account was TEMPORARILY LIMITED but VB was PEMANENTLY SUSPENDED.

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JFC.

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:56:42am

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

our country has been through a lot

On a phone call with the president of Ukraine you say “our country has been through a lot. Right.

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Jay C  Dec 5, 2019 • 7:59:44am

re: #101 Flying Squirrel Girl

Uncle Blazer makes a lot of sense in this great thread:

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Quite right. And he highlights a point which has (so far) gotten lost in the whole “Ukrainegate” circus: that Donald Trump is a sleazy and corrupt con man who should be impeached in any case for what would, in most countries, would be considered criminal corruption. Which it probably is here, too: except that one of our two major political parties has decided to conscientiously look the other way when it comes to applying any code of ethics to “their” guy.

re: #103 makeitstop

The “Ukraine did it” CT was, AFAICT, debunked from the get-go: however, any more solid evidence proving it nothing more than deflectionary bullshit can’t hurt….

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:00:18am

That would certainly be an interesting development.

I would not be troubled by such a prospect. It would certainly frame Republican dirty tricks in a certain light. And it is pretty certain that there will Republican dirty tricks around then.

I wonder how McConnell would game that and respond. He and Trump have already poisoned politics. And I do not think that the Democrats have any trust that Trump would honor any of his own agreements.

Edited to add: I am responding to Dangerman’s #110. (Apparently I did not hit the ‘reply’ button.)

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:03:53am

I got an email from Sen. Chris Murphy, CN, about the aid to Lebanon. The first half is about a congressional trip to a conference in Bahrain, where he pushed for a halt to the war in Yemen. After talking to a former ambassador to Lebanon about the mysterious hold on military aid, he jumped to Lebanon, and since I can’t find his text on his website, I’m going to copy the whole thing.

The Revolution of the Periphery

On Sunday, I run into Jeff Feltman, the former U.S. Ambassador to Lebanon, at the conference. He had given public testimony earlier in the week about the promise of the organic, growing protest movement in Lebanon. Hundreds of thousands of Lebanese—Christian, Sunni, and Shiite—have been demonstrating for forty days for an end to rampant corruption within the government. Much of the corruption comes from Iranian-backed Hezbollah, which is a political power in Lebanon, and these crowds of young people have their sights trained on reducing Hezbollah’s corruption as much as any other political party. Feltman pulls out his cell phone and shows me the 1,700 Hezbollah-bot generated text messages that have been left on his phone (Hezbollah publicized his cell phone number) since his testimony. “Something different is happening,” says Feltman. “I’ve never seen Hezbollah this nervous. They know these protests are coming for them.”

It’s long; the rest behind the link.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:06:47am

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

This Nazi’s Twitter account was TEMPORARILY LIMITED but VB was PEMANENTLY SUSPENDED.

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Why was VB banned from twitter????

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jeffreyw  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:09:39am

re: #117 Scottish Dragon

Why was VB banned from twitter????

We can only assume that Jack doesn’t like pie.

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:09:46am

re: #116 retired cynic

Wow! Thanks for posting the information on the Lebanon hold!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:10:15am

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

This Nazi’s Twitter account was TEMPORARILY LIMITED but VB was PEMANENTLY SUSPENDED.

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Wiles’s outlet, TruNews, appears to be very well funded for a “fringe” outfit. Right now, his co-host Edward Szall is in London reporting on the NATO summit. British immigration authorities need to be alerted to the real nature of Wiles’s TruNews gang so they can deport this filth, White House press credentials notwithstanding.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:16:33am

re: #115 ckkatz

That would certainly be an interesting development.

I would not be troubled by such a prospect. It would certainly frame Republican dirty tricks in a certain light. And it is pretty certain that there will Republican dirty tricks around then.

I wonder how McConnell would game that and respond. He and Trump have already poisoned politics. And I do not think that the Democrats have any trust that Trump would honor any of his own agreements.

Edited to add: I am responding to Dangerman’s #110. (Apparently I did not hit the ‘reply’ button.)

it forces them to deal with this right before the election - when a significant chunk of the population just starts paying attention

since we more or less know they wont fight on facts, if the case/evidence does snowball, they’ll only be left with ‘let the people decide in a month’.

that will seem even feebler then than it does now because it still excuses / tolerates / condones /oks / rubber stamps / approves of all the behaviors, enumerated or not.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:17:30am

re: #33 Joe Bacon 🌹

When relatives INSIST that there are Muslim “no-go zones” in Los Angeles and you tell them there are no such things and they will not believe you because Info Whores says that they exist…Oh I hope those Sandy Hook parents take that fucking Asshole Alex Jones to the cleaners…

I hope they take every penny he has now and every penny he manages to make for the next 20 years.

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Citizen K  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:18:32am

re: #117 Scottish Dragon

Why was VB banned from twitter????

Never specified, even after VB/Pie had back and forths with Twitter support and got told basically that there was nothing to appeal. No reasoning, no nothing, just total un-contestable lockout.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:20:08am

re: #123 Citizen K

Never specified, even after VB/Pie had back and forths with Twitter support and got told basically that there was nothing to appeal. No reasoning, no nothing, just total un-contestable lockout.

Can she make a new account?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:20:36am
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Citizen K  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:21:45am

re: #124 Scottish Dragon

Can she make a new account?

She already did, but it’s still the point of the matter.

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Jay C  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:22:14am

re: #116 retired cynic

I got an email from Sen. Chris Murphy, CN, about the aid to Lebanon. The first half is about a congressional trip to a conference in Bahrain, where he pushed for a halt to the war in Yemen. After talking to a former ambassador to Lebanon about the mysterious hold on military aid, he jumped to Lebanon, and since I can’t find his text on his website, I’m going to copy the whole thing.
]

This stuff of Sen. Murphy’s (Connecticut is “CT”, btw, not “CN”) ought to be publicized a lot more than it has been - the Lebanese aid hold has been scarcely mentioned in the media, and then mainly in passing.

If Murphy’s analysis is correct - and, if a bit simplified, it probably fundamentally is - this is just another piece of inexplicable foreign-policy malpractice on the part of the (Mal)Administration. Unfortunately, Hezbollah and its people aren’t going anywhere, and are going to be -armed- players in Lebanese politics like it or not. But if aiding the “legitimate” government and supporting non-Hezbollah popular protests can reduce Hezb’s (and Iran’s) influence - on the (relative) cheap, and without (American) bloodshed, holding up military makes little sense.

Maybe there’s a Trump golf course near Beirut that’s having permit problems??

ADD: Ooops, didn’t see Murphy’s addendum about the aid being (quietly) released. Good: but still a questionable policy on the hold in the first place.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:22:30am

Some asshole tried to frame impeachment as Dems ‘hating’ Trump, and Pelosi set him straight in no uncertain terms. Beautiful

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:23:14am

a different perspective for slowing down

Charlie Sykes: “Trump counts on a dizzying, vertiginous cycle of news, outrage and disinformation to move past damaging stories before they are fully absorbed or placed into context.”

this ‘slowing down’ is a republican construct and also a media one.
for the r’s, to buy time, try and distract to biden / burisma, et al
for the media, well, theyre the media.

the dem plan / timetable is probably already laid out - we just dont know what it is.

everything uncle blazer and sykes point out, you can be sure, the dems considered long ago. they are smart and do know what they are doing. the R response is frustration - both that they have little power, and that trump has put them in the position of having to defend this nonsense.

it may look like things are moving swiftly and everyone can bloviate and bellyache about it.

chances are good, that’s not what the plan ever was.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:23:52am

re: #122 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I hope they take every penny he has now and every penny he manages to make for the next 20 years lifetimes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:24:52am

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

This Nazi’s Twitter account was TEMPORARILY LIMITED but VB was PEMANENTLY SUSPENDED.

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Pisses me off that @jack goes after VB but gives that racist asshole Wiles a slap on the wrist.

As for Wiles and his fellow Pulpit Pimps, fuck every last one of them! Kick them off of the tax-exempt gravy train and TAX THE F’N CHURCHES!!!!!!!!!

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:25:29am

re: #128 makeitstop

Some asshole tried to frame impeachment as Dems ‘hating’ Trump, and Pelosi set him straight in no uncertain terms. Beautiful

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For the record, I do hate the motherfucker.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:26:07am

re: #128 makeitstop

Some asshole tried to frame impeachment as Dems ‘hating’ Trump, and Pelosi set him straight in no uncertain terms. Beautiful

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pretty much every R yesterday did that, plus Turley

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:27:23am

re: #117 Scottish Dragon

Why was VB banned from twitter????

For “breaking the Twitter rules” but they never said WHICH RULE.

I’m going to guess that it was the rule that says YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REPLY TO TOPSY LAMPSHADE UNLESS YOU ARE KISSING HER ASS.

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Jay C  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:27:33am

re: #117 Scottish Dragon

Why was VB banned from twitter????

Wasn’t it for complaining about Nazis (the sadly usual reason)??

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:28:33am

re: #124 Scottish Dragon

Can she make a new account?

Yeah that’s @Pie_Overlord

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:29:09am

re: #121 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

it forces them to deal with this right before the election - when a significant chunk of the population just starts paying attention

since we more or less know they wont fight on facts, if the case/evidence does snowball, they’ll only be left with ‘let the people decide in a month’.

that will seem even feebler then than it does now because it still excuses / tolerates / condones /oks / rubber stamps / approves of all the behaviors, enumerated or not.

Excellent points!

As you point out, “Hoist them with their own petard”.

And it looks like some of the Republicans are already getting worried about that position. Hopefully a lot more will.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:30:30am

A democrat. I am wondering how much shit is hiding in everyone’s closets.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:31:14am

re: #132 makeitstop

For the record, I do hate the motherfucker.

All you really need is love, and a fucking effective GOTV.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:33:11am

The asshole who got it with both barrels from Pelosi, predictably, works for Sinclair.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:33:33am

re: #138 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A democrat. I am wondering how much shit is hiding in everyone’s closets.

“Nobody told me there’d be real work!”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:35:04am

Hoping for better weather for today’s launch attempt.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:35:13am

re: #140 makeitstop

The asshole who got it with both barrels from Pelosi, predictably, works for Sinclair.

And got the boot from Fox News over sexual harrassment. Seems nice.

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:36:29am

re: #128 makeitstop

Some asshole tried to frame impeachment as Dems ‘hating’ Trump, and Pelosi set him straight in no uncertain terms. Beautiful

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I agree. That was beautifully done. Thanks for posting!

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:37:24am

re: #138 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A democrat. I am wondering how much shit is hiding in everyone’s closets.

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they left out this part:

Heck wrote. “I will never understand how some of my colleagues, in many ways good people, could ignore or deny the president’s unrelenting attack on a free press, his vicious character assassination of anyone who disagreed with him, and his demonstrably very distant relationship with the truth.”

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:38:46am

re: #140 makeitstop

The asshole who got it with both barrels from Pelosi, predictably, works for Sinclair.

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that woman is swift and nimble

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:39:51am

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

This Nazi’s Twitter account was TEMPORARILY LIMITED but VB was PEMANENTLY SUSPENDED.

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“Rick Wiles is calling for all social media platforms to be nationalized because his Twitter account was temporarily limited yesterday after he used it to post anti-Semitic content”

But I thought government being in control of things was bad!

///

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:42:34am

re: #127 Jay C

Sorry! I knew it was CT! Duh! I have absolutely no idea why it was held in the first place, unless just Iran - Hezbollah. ?

This stuff of Sen. Murphy’s (Connecticut is “CT”, btw, not “CN”) ought to be publicized a lot more than it has been - the Lebanese aid hold has been scarcely mentioned in the media, and then mainly in passing.

If Murphy’s analysis is correct - and, if a bit simplified, it probably fundamentally is - this is just another piece of inexplicable foreign-policy malpractice on the part of the (Mal)Administration. Unfortunately, Hezbollah and its people aren’t going anywhere, and are going to be -armed- players in Lebanese politics like it or not. But if aiding the “legitimate” government and supporting non-Hezbollah popular protests can reduce Hezb’s (and Iran’s) influence - on the (relative) cheap, and without (American) bloodshed, holding up military makes little sense.

Maybe there’s a Trump golf course near Beirut that’s having permit problems??

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:51:15am

re: #143 makeitstop

And got the boot from Fox News over sexual harrassment. Seems nice.

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Back in November 2016, just after the election, I attended a panel discussion put on by the Northwestern School of Journalism Alumni Association about the 2016 election.

This same guy, James Rosen, who worked for Fox at the time, was on it. I found him arrogant, pompous, uninterested in any sort of meaningful discussion, and toxic.

From what I could see, he completely poisoned the discussion. The moderator, Cheryl Jackson and the panel members, particularly Katie Glueck and Kelly O’Donnell tried desperately to save the discussion. But it was hopeless and I left early.

Realizing this makes Speaker Pelosi’s response even more appreciated.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:53:05am

Daughter1 just butt-dialed. Assuming it was a butt-dial since the content was several minutes of her distantly singing bump-and-grind. We get a lot of that since her daughter’s last college role was in Chicago. At least it wasn’t Jingle Bell Rock.

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Teukka  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:55:03am

re: #150 Decatur Deb

Daughter1 just butt-dialed. Assuming it was a butt-dial since the content was several minutes of her distantly singing bump-and-grind. We get a lot of that since her daughter’s last college role was in Chicago. At least it wasn’t Jingle Bell Rock.

And thank heaven, not Amazing Horse….

Click to Reveal

Amazing Horse | 10 Hours

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:55:21am

re: #150 Decatur Deb

Daughter1 just butt-dialed. Assuming it was a butt-dial since the content was several minutes of her distantly singing bump-and-grind. We get a lot of that since her daughter’s last college role was in Chicago. At least it wasn’t Jingle Bell Rock.

Or Wonderful Christmastime!

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John Hughes  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:55:23am

re: #148 retired cynic

I have absolutely no idea why it was held in the first place, unless just Iran - Hezbollah. ?

You’re suggesting that Trump’s policy is, like Bush’s before him, to do everything possible to help Iran[*]? Giving them Lebanon after Bush gave them Iraq?

Can’t be, because that policy is working and I can’t imagine a Trump foreign policy working.

([*] by which I mean, of course, the Iranian government, not the people of Iran).

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retired cynic  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:56:37am

re: #153 John Hughes

No, just that if he thinks of Lebanon at all, he probably thinks of Hezbollah, which means Iran to him. If it means anything at all to him, which is doubtful. It’s the only thing I could think of.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:57:12am

re: #150 Decatur Deb

Daughter1 just butt-dialed. Assuming it was a butt-dial since the content was several minutes of her distantly singing bump-and-grind. We get a lot of that since her daughter’s last college role was in Chicago. At least it wasn’t Jingle Bell Rock.

it’s early yet

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 8:59:58am

re: #151 Teukka

And thank heaven, not Amazing Horse….

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Geez, I forgot all about that. The internet sure has left some debris in its wake. Here’s one now…

We Like The Moon

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:05:25am

re: #152 makeitstop

Or Wonderful Christmastime!

I’m a big Paul Mccartney and Beatles fan but damn if I don’t find that one of the most grating Christmas songs of them all.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:09:59am

President Hates All Women is at it again:

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:11:01am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m a big Paul Mccartney and Beatles fan but damn if I don’t find that one of the most grating Christmas songs of them all.

Horrible. The weed must have been really good that year, there’s just no other way to explain it.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:11:55am

Streaming is going live.

spacex.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:14:04am

Narrated by Sir Patrick Stewart, no less.‘Dear Satan’, An Animated Short About a Girl Who Accidentally Writes Letter to Satan Instead of Santa

Hmmm..
Letters to Satan could possibly explain the commercial orgy of greed and materialism that the hijacked pagan solstice holiday of “Christmas” has become.

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jeffreyw  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:14:29am

re: #156 makeitstop

Geez, I forgot all about that. The internet sure has left some debris in its wake. Here’s one now…

[Embedded content]

YouTube

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:14:46am

OK, Goober.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:15:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:16:40am
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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:17:58am

re: #162 jeffreyw

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Video

See ya and raise ya, mate.

Badgers : animated music video : MrWeebl

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A Cranky One  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:20:57am

re: #166 makeitstop

Badgers? We don’t need no stinkin’ badgers…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:23:18am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He also admitted they were trying to weaken and discredit Clinton with the Benghazi and email stuff. Kev isn’t as sly as McConnell. He’s just ended up here since Ryan and Cantor were forced out by Trump and the TP.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:24:51am

Makes sense.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:25:56am

re: #138 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:26:15am

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

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For the President who is famous for being the face of ha ha snowflakes, he’s proven time and time again that he can’t handle criticism. He wanted to be worshiped.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:26:36am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:27:29am

re: #170 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Any chance to take it? We flipped a GA seat last fall.

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Interesting Times  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:27:37am

re: #172 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:28:01am

T-1 Range is clear.

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jeffreyw  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:29:16am

re: #166 makeitstop

See ya and raise ya, mate.

[Embedded content]

You gotta know when to fold ‘em
And when to walk away

YouTube

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:29:38am

Ignition and lift off.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:29:39am

VROOM

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:31:10am

re: #178 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

VROOM

Max Q

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:31:31am

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

This Nazi’s Twitter account was TEMPORARILY LIMITED but VB was PEMANENTLY SUSPENDED.

[Embedded content]

Incomprehensible, until you factor in $$$

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:31:49am

SpaceX mission control audio and trajectory graphics
about 6 seconds ahead pf the full video stream

CRS-19 Mission Control Audio

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:32:18am

MECO and stage seperation

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:33:45am

Boost back completed. Guide fins deployed.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:35:14am

re: #170 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“I can’t in good conscience oppose him so I won’t remain in office.”

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:36:09am

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Any chance to take it? We flipped a GA seat last fall.

There’s a non-zero chance. We need someone to run.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:36:31am

Entry burn started & Shutdown

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:37:08am

Landing Burn

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:37:33am

I hope you folks are prepared for the “Trump wasn’t conservative enough” hot takes that will surely follow if the orange moron loses next year.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:38:02am

And they stuck the landing again.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:39:13am

SECO and good orbit.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:39:49am

2nd stage separation.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:40:40am

OK, Snowflake.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:41:36am

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope you folks are prepared for the “Trump wasn’t conservative enough” hot takes that will surely follow if the orange moron loses next year.

Either that or “He was never really a conservative!” I expect that too. If he does indeed get drubbed out of office next year, the conservative talking heads will disown him in record-setting time. Hell, maybe even before Election Day if it really well and truly looks like he’s gonna get his ass handed to him.

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ckkatz  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:41:39am

re: #166 makeitstop

So many. So little time…

Don’t forget “Hamster Dance” and “The Song That Never Ends”.

Or maybe we should.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:41:45am

Pumpkin Pinochet is blathering about his fake approval ratings again.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:42:43am

re: #192 makeitstop

OK, Snowflake.

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And now he claims he said ‘effusive.’ Right.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:44:06am

Solar array deployed. Now back to my normal Thursday morning routine.

Today’s Buzz Burbank podcast.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:47:05am

re: #188 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope you folks are prepared for the “Trump wasn’t conservative enough” hot takes that will surely follow if the orange moron loses next year.

Oh of course. And I’m going to enjoy Trump discovering he’s seen as a loser.

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Mescalero09  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:49:43am

re: #35 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

“All that magnificent food you post and the best you can do is cracked corn? CRACKED CORN!?!?!! Yeah, we looking at YOU Jeffrey.
Up the game or we start pooping en masse on that ride of yours.”

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:51:36am

re: #180 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Incomprehensible, until you factor in $$$

pie don’t pay?

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:53:23am

I kind of agree with this, but I think it can be rectified when the Dems use Turley to make the case that they’ll actually have to slow down to get the witnesses he said they have to have.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:54:15am

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

This Nazi’s Twitter account was TEMPORARILY LIMITED but VB was PEMANENTLY SUSPENDED.

[Embedded content]

So Rick is a socialist?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:56:18am

re: #201 Barefoot Grin

I kind of agree with this, but I think it can be rectified when the Dems use Turley to make the case that they’ll actually have to slow down to get the witnesses he said they have to have.

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Why question the GOP hack when he’ll willingly lie and twist to support Trump?

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:56:31am

re: #201 Barefoot Grin

I kind of agree with this, but I think it can be rectified when the Dems use Turley to make the case that they’ll actually have to slow down to get the witnesses he said they have to have.

I think that Rachel Maddow showed the way last night - is there any way to put up the big GOP-style poster boards behind the Dem questioners - posters containing the face of the GOP shill, along with what they said about impeaching Clinton, so they are faced with their own words as they desperately try to lie and spin?

Take away Fox’s ability to just cherry-pick segments that make it seem like Trump is winning duh inpeechmunt!!1!

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2019 • 9:59:03am

re: #204 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

I think that Rachel Maddow showed the way last night - is there any way to put up the big GOP-style poster boards behind the Dem questioners - posters containing the face of the GOP shill, along with what they said about impeaching Clinton, so they are faced with their own words as they desperately try to lie and spin?

Take away Fox’s ability to just cherry-pick segments that make it seem like Trump is winning duh inpeechmunt!!1!

I do think the Dems need to be ready with more video/audio with some of these people.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:02:07am

i was listening to NPR
an observation regarding crowdstrike, 2016 and this other nonsense

the R’s are trying to build/rebuild this into a ‘legitimate’ thing to investigate
never mind that it’s been done and debunked enough times

if they can give it any breath of legitimacy, then they will instantly pivot to ‘this is what trump sincerely thought so he pursued it and so it wasn’t political…’

this ignores all his own intelligence agencies that said it was bunk
how does he ‘prove’ he is smarter than everyone and had legitimate intel on this?
there is no way

and it still doesnt matter.
even if he really thought ‘ukraine didit’ is a real thing, it doesnt excuse how he and his team went about it

- end run around the ambassador, using sondland, rudy, etc instead of normal diplomatic channels
- holding up and conditioning the military aid - i say this part unequivocally because they did not hold up the aid due to concerns about corruption and then settle their concerns within 2 months

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:04:43am

re: #201 Barefoot Grin

I kind of agree with this, but I think it can be rectified when the Dems use Turley to make the case that they’ll actually have to slow down to get the witnesses he said they have to have.

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turley bought into the R talking point that there was no evidence

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:06:00am

Bringing the past back to haunt Kevin McCarthy …

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:06:48am

re: #207 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

turley bought into the R talking point that there was no evidence

Turley made it clear that he believes Republicans are above the law. But he repeatedly demanded Obama’s impeachment multiple times.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:07:16am

OT:

I don’t know why I think talking to my computer makes me think it will be more co-operative when it stubbornly refusing to load something for no apparent reason.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:07:18am

shit’s getting serious - the dozens on an international scale

North Korea threatened to resume insults of President Trump and consider him a “dotard” if he keeps using provocative language, such as referring to its leader as “rocket man,” the AP reports.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:07:40am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:09:08am

New Bond trailer. Looks good.

JAMES BOND 007: No Time To Die Trailer (2020)

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:10:43am

re: #209 Joe Bacon 🌹

Turley made it clear that he believes Republicans are above the law. But he repeatedly demanded Obama’s impeachment multiple times.

who was tried and convicted of…..nothing
interesting, that.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:12:15am

re: #210 Eclectic Cyborg

OT:

I don’t know why I think talking to my computer makes me think it will be more co-operative when it stubbornly refusing to load something for no apparent reason.

i never ‘talk’ to my computer

when necessary or pissed or frustrated i scream, yell, hurl expletives
i feel better. like a cat, it still does what it wants.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:15:35am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:17:13am

re: #216 Charles Johnson

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The Art of the Grift.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:17:57am

re: #213 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

New Bond trailer. Looks good.

[Embedded content]

i was brought up on sean connery. he will always be bond to me
granted an older and different genre

i like daniel craig and his bond as well
he is a better bond for this generation’s nature of crimes and criminals

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:22:06am
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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:22:29am

re: #213 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

New Bond trailer. Looks good.

[Embedded content]

Video

Rami Malek is the villian? Cool!

(An illustration of how far behind the curve I am - a friend introduced me to the first season of Mr. Robot over the weekend. Malek is really good in that, too.)

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:23:11am

re: #216 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

We still need these people to turn around. Better late than never.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:24:53am

re: #203 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Why question the GOP hack when he’ll willingly lie and twist to support Trump?

I was thinking more of Pompeo, Mulvaney, Bolton, etc.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:27:07am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:27:08am

re: #207 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

turley bought into the R talking point that there was no evidence

Toward the end, though, he made the emphatic point that what the Dems have is impeachable, but they need to get those guys who are refusing to testify to come in. Now they can say, we agree with Prof. Turley and we’ll let this hang over Trump for as long as it takes while we keep investigating.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:27:25am

icymi, the rest of what Peloisi said after rosen’s question

“I think the president is a coward when it comes to helping our kids who are afraid of gun violence. I think that he is cruel when he doesn’t deal with helping our Dreamers, of which we are very proud. I think he is in denial about the climate crisis. However, that is about the election,” Pelosi said.

“This is about the Constitution of the United States and the facts that lead to the president’s violation of his oath of office. And as a Catholic, I resent your using the word ‘hate’ in a sentence that addresses me. I don’t hate anyone. I was raised in a way that is a heart full of love and always pray for the president. And I still pray for the president. I pray for the president all the time. So don’t mess with me when it comes to words like that.”

fyi PELOSI ALMOST NEVER returns to the podium like she did here and is good at ignoring shouted questions

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jeffreyw  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:27:57am

re: #199 Mescalero09

“All that magnificent food you post and the best you can do is cracked corn? CRACKED CORN!?!?!! Yeah, we looking at YOU Jeffrey.
Up the game or we start pooping en masse on that ride of yours.”

They need to take it up with management.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:28:46am
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:30:37am

re: #219 The Pie Overlord!

why childcare? why not food, rent?

besides, no one’s preventing you from using your money now.
you can take all the money out that you want.
just pay the tax (if applicable) and the penalty if you’re under 59 1/2.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:32:23am
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A Mom Anon  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:33:16am

re: #227 Charles Johnson

I’m really sick and damned tired of these assholes and their attack of conscience once they aren’t drawing a paycheck or seeing shit fall apart. He had no problem at all drawing a paycheck to spread lies, encourage violence and help get awful people in power. Yeah, how fucking brave. He regrets it? How fucking nice for him. Yeah, better late than never, blah,blah. And?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:35:43am

re: #218 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

i was brought up on sean connery. he will always be bond to me
granted an older and different genre

i like daniel craig and his bond as well
he is a better bond for this generation’s nature of crimes and criminals

Yep. I am waiting for the purists to have a major meltdown over this one though. They are introducing a female 00 agent. Heads will explode and whole Nations will crumble with this newest revelation.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:38:00am

re: #231 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Yep. I am waiting for the purists to have a major meltdown over this one though. They are introducing a female 00 agent. Heads will explode and whole Nations will crumble with this newest revelation.

Not just a female 007, A BLACK WOMAN.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:38:29am

re: #222 Barefoot Grin

I was thinking more of Pompeo, Mulvaney, Bolton, etc.

i think if he was asked directly he’d answer you should wait for the courts
so trump et al could likely beat the clock

i think the dems made a good point yesterday over and over (that was also made by the judge last week in mcghan)
- house has the sole power of impeachment. also the power of investigation and oversight
- subpoena is a legal document that the house has the authority to issue
- there is no mechanism for the executive branch, let alone the prez himself to refuse to appear or to order others not to appear/ignore

the constitution is clear.
there is no ambiguity, there has never been a controversy.

and no, this is not a legal ‘test’. it’s a ploy and a dodge.

it is ludicrous for a case to have to wind its way through the courts for months and months when the supreme’s job should only be to say “the constitution is clear and says what it says” (granted the hail mary is this scotus)

it’s plain black letter. just like the IRS case, ‘shall’ means shall. it doesnt mean something else.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:41:30am

re: #224 Barefoot Grin

Toward the end, though, he made the emphatic point that what the Dems have is impeachable, but they need to get those guys who are refusing to testify to come in. Now they can say, we agree with Prof. Turley and we’ll let this hang over Trump for as long as it takes while we keep investigating.

yes
and likely the D’s will be ready to call them at trial, where, i think it’s gonna be much much harder to not appear.

i posted an article on this last week i think it was
roberts is not gonna rule a subpoena isnt valid or relevant
and the R senate is not gonna overrule roberts on this

once someone appears, how and how much they try to invoke EP is a different matter

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:42:19am

re: #229 Charles Johnson

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One of the very few times I disagree with you. I had some ugly attitudes/beliefs when I was the same age as this guy…and making the kind of money he got from Jones is one hell of an inducement to a young 20 something to go along. The wonder is that he walked away from it in the first place when we see people three times his age in Congress failing this same test of character. If I want some measure of grace applied to my stupidity, I must be able to extend it to others who are willing to learn.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:43:38am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:44:44am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:48:03am

re: #232 The Pie Overlord!

Not just a female 007, A BLACK WOMAN.

Yep.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:48:34am

re: #228 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

why childcare? why not food, rent?

besides, no one’s preventing you from using your money now.
you can take all the money out that you want.
just pay the tax (if applicable) and the penalty if you’re under 59 1/2.

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more on this:

- they’re just using the 401k as a holding place for parents to save money for college
- well there’s 529 plans and other prepaid college options
- and his example of parents AND their kid saving 5k a year each to spend 15k on college… where is this not-yet-a-college-graduate kid working?

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:49:41am

re: #236 Charles Johnson

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Oh FFS why is anybody attacking? This is one of those things ppl can disagree on in good faith and be civil about. What the hell…

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:49:56am

re: #230 A Mom Anon

I’m really sick and damned tired of these assholes and their attack of conscience once they aren’t drawing a paycheck or seeing shit fall apart. He had no problem at all drawing a paycheck to spread lies, encourage violence and help get awful people in power. Yeah, how fucking brave. He regrets it? How fucking nice for him. Yeah, better late than never, blah,blah. And?

as you say, he regrets it because they were exposed and the gravy train ran out

people who believe they have a right not to be hungry can find all kinds of conscience

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:51:10am

re: #235 Scottish Dragon

One of the very few times I disagree with you. I had some ugly attitudes/beliefs when I was the same age as this guy…and making the kind of money he got from Jones is one hell of an inducement to a young 20 something to go along. The wonder is that he walked away from it in the first place when we see people three times his age in Congress failing this same test of character. If I want some measure of grace applied to my stupidity, I must be able to extend it to others who are willing to learn.

Thing is, he’s getting a lot more than grace here. A feature article in the NYT Magazine is NOT deserved, just for suddenly deciding he didn’t want to lie any more. This is the same kind of over-reaction they have to never-Trumpers.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:51:54am

re: #240 Scottish Dragon

Oh FFS why is anybody attacking? This is one of those things ppl can disagree on in good faith and be civil about. What the hell…

I just got attacked on Twitter for having the gall to criticize this guy.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:52:21am

re: #231 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Yep. I am waiting for the purists to have a major meltdown over this one though. They are introducing a female 00 agent. Heads will explode and whole Nations will crumble with this newest revelation.

and me i always assumed there were female 00 agents. just not in the story.
an all male spy service would be ineffective in a lot of circumstances

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:54:55am

Can I just say the rampant partisanship, polarization and unrelenting us vs. them crap is making American politics almost unbearable these days?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:55:03am

re: #243 Charles Johnson

I just got attacked on Twitter for having the gall to criticize this guy.

We got your back, Charles! Sounds like somebody needs some enlightenment about you standing up to the Right!

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Teddy's Person  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:56:20am

Pamela Karlan made a good point about America not having a hereditary aristocracy. As we all know, naming your child Baron, Duchess or Prince doesn’t create a hereditary aristocracy - unless you’re a Trump.

Karlan’s comment pierced the Trump klan’s fantasy and that won’t stand.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:57:08am

Meanwhile, my erstwhile partner Roger Simon is leaving PJ Media and going to work for Epoch Times, the Falun Gong propaganda outlet.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 10:59:41am

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

Can I just say the rampant partisanship, polarization and unrelenting us vs. them crap is making American politics almost unbearable these days?

time to pull out my favorite chestnuts:
——
The complicated business of politics is to negotiate agreements between groups with different interests with the object of finding a common way forward.

At present only one side buys into this premise.
The other does not market any notion of democratic participatory ‘politics’ but rather power, domination, and force of will; authoritarian and dictatorial.
—-
the only hope for democracy was if people respected each other enough to compromise
——-
Why is politics no longer a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently?

Why has it become, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a tribal, degenerative, brutal struggle for office in which ONE side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably?
——
james baldwin: “We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist.”

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i(m)p(each)sos  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:00:14am

re: #248 Charles Johnson

Meanwhile, my erstwhile partner Roger Simon is leaving PJ Media and going to work for Epoch Times, the Falun Gong propaganda outlet.

Epoch Times flies under the radar, but it’s spreading its tendrils out. There’s a trade rag called “TALKERS” that is the industry publication of the RWNJ talk radio industry. ET has been buying a shit ton of ad space with them and they’ve been pimping ET content and sources to their readers, which in turn puts ET deep into the RWNJ AM talk echo chamber that feeds the echo chamber. ET even sponsored an “informational” panel a month or two ago for RWNJ talk show hosts and programmers.

It’s evil, evil shit and almost nobody sees it.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:02:01am
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:02:15am

re: #247 Teddy’s Person

Pamela Karlan made a good point about America not having a hereditary aristocracy. As we all know, naming your child Baron, Duchess or Prince doesn’t create a hereditary aristocracy - unless you’re a Trump.

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Karlan’s comment pierced the Trump klan’s fantasy and that won’t stand.

as i’ve said, she used his name as an example because it fits.
she wasnt nasty or ‘derisive’ in using it
she didnt describe his behavior or call him out for doing anything, or imply anything
the president’s own son has a name indicative of a title of nobility

my guess is she thought this up well in advance and not on the spot.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:03:19am

re: #251 Charles Johnson

I wish I could kick that guy in the nuts on your behalf.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:05:51am

re: #242 Charles Johnson

Thing is, he’s getting a lot more than grace here. A feature article in the NYT Magazine is NOT deserved, just for suddenly deciding he didn’t want to lie any more. This is the same kind of over-reaction they have to never-Trumpers.

Yeah, that may well be true. I don’t pretend to know all the answers and I don’t understand why ppl are giving you grief like they somehow do have all the answers.

FFS it’s ok if we don’t agree sometimes.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:09:13am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:10:50am
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A Mom Anon  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:11:26am

re: #242 Charles Johnson

It’s one thing to be a regular person and have a crappy belief system and then realize you were wrong or misguided, and try to make amends. It’s different when you spent years making that your livelihood and only turn your back on it when the whole thing crashes down and you see yourself going down with the ship. Alex Jones is a stochastic terrorist. He knows exactly the harm he causes and does not give a shit, even now. Sure, this guy has seen the light, but I cannot give him a hearty round of applause. At least he’s not remaining anonymous, but beyond that, meh, I’m not impressed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:12:27am

Why are the first caucuses in Iowa anyway? Seems so random.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:12:37am

re: #244 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

and me i always assumed there were female 00 agents. just not in the story.
an all male spy service would be ineffective in a lot of circumstances

Back then I doubt they would’ve given female agents a “licence to kill.” Not ladylike.

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EPR-radar  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:12:52am

re: #242 Charles Johnson

Thing is, he’s getting a lot more than grace here. A feature article in the NYT Magazine is NOT deserved, just for suddenly deciding he didn’t want to lie any more. This is the same kind of over-reaction they have to never-Trumpers.

As another example, liberals who have been right about Republicans for decades are simply banished from media visibility by the both-siderist gatekeepers of the NYT et al.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:13:43am

uncle’s on the case today

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:13:49am

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

Can I just say the rampant partisanship, polarization and unrelenting us vs. them crap is making American politics almost unbearable these days?

Unfortunately we find ourselves in a war with fascists to save democracy.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:13:51am

re: #259 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Back then I doubt they would’ve given female agents a “licence to kill.” Not ladylike.

A female assassin would probably be very effective given an attitude that a “lady” would be incapable of it.

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Belafon  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:14:25am

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

Why are the first caucuses in Iowa anyway? Seems so random.

Because Iowa and New Hampshire have passed laws to make theirs first.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:16:10am

re: #252 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

as i’ve said, she used his name as an example because it fits.
she wasnt nasty or ‘derisive’ in using it
she didnt describe his behavior or call him out for doing anything, or imply anything
the president’s own son has a name indicative of a title of nobility

my guess is she thought this up well in advance and not on the spot.

I thought it was a simple example to remind the American public of the type of government laid out in the Constitution. Trump has double-down and amplified the victimhood and outrage the right has been nursing for years, and unfortunately, the sleaziest among us have created ways to monetize the all of the perceived and manufactured slights.

I used to say after my parents retired that my dad took up golf and my Fox-watching mom took up nursing grudges. All I’m saying is there’s a market.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:16:30am
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EPR-radar  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:17:10am

re: #261 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

That’s a step in the right direction, but I’d really like to see the courts take it all the way: deem Trump a vexatious and frivolous litigant, and bar the courts to him as plaintiff unless he can get an independent authority to vet his lawsuit as non-frivolous.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:19:17am

re: #263 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

A female assassin would probably be very effective given an attitude that a “lady” would be incapable of it.

Good point, but we are talking about old fashioned public school Brits with rigid attitudes (60 years ago when Fleming wrote these novels).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:20:59am

re: #267 EPR-radar

That’s a step in the right direction, but I’d really like to see the courts take it all the way: deem Trump a vexatious and frivolous litigant, and bar the courts to him as plaintiff unless he can get an independent authority to vet his lawsuit as non-frivolous.

They won’t do that to the President, not even Trump.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:21:28am

re: #256 Charles Johnson

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This is something Trump would say. Joe needs a refresher from his BFF Obama on how to clapback with some style.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:25:38am

A thread about the guy Ghouliani is meeting with.

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:25:56am
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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:26:16am

re: #271 makeitstop

A thread about the guy Ghouliani is meeting with.

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

Huh. And just like that, it’s gone.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:26:37am

re: #272 NO SMOCKING GUN!

To be fair there are plenty of white supremacists in the White House these days.

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Alephnaught  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:26:46am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When pressed into a corner, he really fell back on the defense that it was just “performance art” and not ´meant to be taken literally or seriously.

In the end, does that really matter, if his “performance art” results in dire consequences from followers of his bully pulpit? He’s being doing this stuff for years now, so he must be media savvy. If his act’s all a joke, he’s being negligent if he turns a blind eye to any consequences of his “act“. Given how long he’s been around, this issue most have come up at least a few times in the past.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:28:17am

re: #273 makeitstop

Was it this one?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:28:35am

re: #250 i(m)p(each)sos

Epoch Times flies under the radar, but it’s spreading its tendrils out. There’s a trade rag called “TALKERS” that is the industry publication of the RWNJ talk radio industry. ET has been buying a shit ton of ad space with them and they’ve been pimping ET content and sources to their readers, which in turn puts ET deep into the RWNJ AM talk echo chamber that feeds the echo chamber. ET even sponsored an “informational” panel a month or two ago for RWNJ talk show hosts and programmers.

It’s evil, evil shit and almost nobody sees it.

Their ads are all over You Tube.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:29:58am

re: #274 Eclectic Cyborg

To be fair there are plenty of white supremacists in the White House these days.

I know, I mean sure Miller is a Nazi, but this week we learned AG Barr is also a Nazi, and now we’ve found out Giuliani is brazenly criming in Ukraine and WHEN IS IT EVER GOING TO STOP?

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:30:27am

re: #276 Flying Squirrel Girl

Was it this one?

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That’s the one!

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thecommodore  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:30:32am

Wingnuts are howling about this one.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:31:20am
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Scottish Dragon  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:32:29am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:33:08am

re: #280 thecommodore

Wingnuts are howling about this one.

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So they are using 30 year old Simpsons gags? Okay then.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:34:32am

re: #280 thecommodore

I love how they skip right over all the photographic evidence of Trump and Epstein hanging out together, but they can all tell you how many times Clinton flew on the “Lolita Express.”

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A Mom Anon  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:34:51am

re: #283 Eclectic Cyborg

Look for that to be written on Starbucks cups in the near future. Jesus, these freaking fools have no imagination. Or talent.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:35:08am

Stay classy, asshole!

The Florida GOP candidate whose fundraising email said that Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) should be hanged isn’t apologizing for his attacks against the Muslim congresswoman.

On Wednesday, the Tampa Bay Times reported that George Buck, who was in the running to unseat Rep. Charlie Crist (D-FL), pushed a baseless conspiracy theory in the email sent last month that accused Omar of secretly working on behalf of the Qatari government.

The Times reported that Buck wrote in the email — which also reportedly mentioned House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), and Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) — that “we should hang these traitors where they stand.”

Since the Times’ report was published Wednesday morning, Buck’s campaign Facebook page has posted five links to news articles that take aim at Omar. On Thursday morning, Buck posted a link to Omar saying that she and “every single Muslim in this country
should be tired” of “the discomfort of being a second class citizen. Buck’s latest post aimed at Omar comes the day after he accused “fake RINOs [Republicans In Name Only]” of attacking him for a “fake headline issued by the Tampa Bay Times.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:37:17am

The double standard.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:42:09am

re: #286 Joe Bacon 🌹

“When pressed for comment Wednesday, Buck failed to directly address the NRCC’s decision in an email to CNN. Buck told CNN that he is “a decorated veteran of the 101st Airborne Division” who has taken the oath to defend the Constitution “very seriously.”

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Targetpractice  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:42:49am

re: #287 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The double standard.

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Female candidate loses her cool: “Look at her, being so emotional and probably hormonal. We just can’t have that in the White House.”

Male candidate does the same: “Look at how he stood up for himself! We need that kind of confidence in a president!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:43:11am

re: #287 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The double standard.

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I’m sure all the RW news sites and blogs have “CHOKE-AHONTAS!” stories ready to go in case Warren drops out.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:43:52am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:44:13am

re: #244 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

and me i always assumed there were female 00 agents. just not in the story.
an all male spy service would be ineffective in a lot of circumstances

Agent 99

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:46:14am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:46:54am

re: #256 Charles Johnson

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Joe has a history of this kind of outburst. I remember an incident way back, in the 80s perhaps, in which he angrily challenged a questioner to an IQ comparison. “I’ll put my IQ against yours any time!”
If he doesn’t self-destruct in the primaries, he will self-destruct in the general, with national self-destruction to result once Cheeto is re-elected.
Hang it up, Joe, for the good of the country.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:47:00am

Twitter getting on my last nerve today.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:49:26am

re: #145 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

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they left out this part:
Heck wrote. “I will never understand how some of my colleagues, in many ways good people, could ignore or deny the president’s unrelenting attack on a free press, his vicious character assassination of anyone who disagreed with him, and his demonstrably very distant relationship with the truth.”

So this fucker is just packing it in?

FUCK HIM.

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jeffreyw  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:50:25am

re: #292 Eventual Carrion

Agent 99

Agent 99 was hot. Not sorry about that.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:54:27am
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:56:52am

More news from Uncle Blazer:

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danarchy  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:57:28am

re: #296 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So this fucker is just packing it in?

FUCK HIM.

That seems a little extreme. The guys been a congressman for 7 years, he is 67 years old and decided he doesn’t want to put up with the bullshit anymore. I don’t begrudge anyone who wants to retire, even a congressman. He is from a pretty safe dem district, let someone younger with more zest for the job take over.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:58:46am
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Dread Pirate  Dec 5, 2019 • 11:59:09am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:03:23pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

Twitter getting on my last nerve today.

It does that to me on a lot of days, to be frank.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:03:23pm

I’m just muting people now who come at me with excuses for Biden’s fat-shaming.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:04:10pm

re: #300 danarchy

That seems a little extreme. The guys been a congressman for 7 years, he is 67 years old and decided he doesn’t want to put up with the bullshit anymore. I don’t begrudge anyone who wants to retire, even a congressman. He is from a pretty safe dem district, let someone younger with more zest for the job take over.

As long a the job is done before he goes.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:04:13pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

Twitter getting on my last nerve today.

Turn it off and get something to drink. Always know when to walk away.

BTW…you taught me that ten years ago.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:09:30pm
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EPR-radar  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:12:41pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

It’s bad enough that Pete is getting into this debt/deficit shit, but to validate right wing ‘tax and spend’ memes is unforgivable.

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danarchy  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:12:53pm

re: #305 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

As long a the job is done before he goes.

He’s not quitting, he just isn’t running for re-election. Do you really want someone running whose heart isn’t in it. When is congresses job ever really done?

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aatharuv  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:15:49pm

re: #17 Teukka

Thanks for that. I’ve seen far too many people confuse the two.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:18:23pm

re: #280 thecommodore

Wingnuts are howling about this one.

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Do Stu Padasso next!

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:20:07pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

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I’m getting tired of Mayor Pete.

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makeitstop  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:20:23pm

re: #311 Eventual Carrion

Do Stu Padasso next!

Or Hugh Jass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:21:54pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 5, 2019 • 12:38:37pm

re: #313 makeitstop

Or Hugh Jass.

Haywood Jablome

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 5, 2019 • 1:40:03pm

re: #286 Joe Bacon 🌹

Stay classy, asshole!

The Florida GOP candidate whose fundraising email said that Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) should be hanged isn’t apologizing for his attacks against the Muslim congresswoman.

On Wednesday, the Tampa Bay Times reported that George Buck, who was in the running to unseat Rep. Charlie Crist (D-FL), pushed a baseless conspiracy theory in the email sent last month that accused Omar of secretly working on behalf of the Qatari government.

The Times reported that Buck wrote in the email — which also reportedly mentioned House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Rashida Tlaib (D-MI), and Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) — that “we should hang these traitors where they stand.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

That reminds me, didn’t Jared Kushner get a billion-dollar bailout from Qatar for his building at 666 Fifth Avenue?


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