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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:08:17pm

Any Clampers here?
The Clampers: A historical drinking society or a drinking historical society?-

It is, most definitely, a drinking society rife with pranksterism. And they do a little history stuff to keep it respectable. I joined 1989 but it’s been a while. No chapters in HI.

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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:14:10pm

I had my leather vest patched up. My favorite:
‘Don’t tell Mom I’m a Clamper. She thinks I play piano in a whore house.’

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makeitstop  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:25:39pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:26:25pm

On the topic of water damage from last thread, my landlord is pretty good about taking care of stuff, but if I mention water he’s here yesterday. He installed a dehumidifier in the sort-of half basement and lowered our rent to offset the electricity bill increase for running it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:26:33pm

I think we can unplug the internet now.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:27:13pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I think we can unplug the internet now.

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Beautiful.

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Citizen K  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:29:54pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I think we can unplug the internet now.

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Just give it until after the Dem Convention and a nominee is chosen. This will be the actual GOP talking point.

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:31:38pm

From Jen Rubin (even though she spelled JAIME’s name wrong, I’ll take it):

Don’t worry, Sen. Graham. No one thought you’d be fair.
And for all his suckuppery to Trump, Graham is only two points ahead in the latest polling against Democratic challenger Jamie Harrison. Maybe South Carolinians would like a senator they need not be embarrassed to represent them.

washingtonpost.com

And speaking of South Carolina asshats, my rep wrote this fact-free pathetic attempt at Huckabee-like humor today. Don’t quit your day job, Tommy—although you do a shitty job at it, it’s all you have.

Tom Rice: Speaker ‘Poll’osi’s political circus

myrtlebeachonline.com

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Dread Pirate  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:34:10pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:35:44pm

ALLIE FOR THE WIN

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Unabogie  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:36:25pm

re: #3 makeitstop

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Seeing some pushback on this, but I think it’s a fine idea. No, we shouldn’t put him in charge of anything, but we should absolutely let him speak and argue in favor of conviction. There are ten spots for House Managers. Let’s put Amash in one of them.

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Citizen K  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:37:51pm

Just…what the fuck

And in similarly revolting news…or perhaps bullshit mythologizing masquerading as news:

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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:43:34pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate

It’s been some time but there ain’t nothing like fresh dungies, hot sourdough, and cold chardonnay at Pier 39 in San Franciso.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:46:59pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:47:08pm

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:47:55pm

re: #13 BigPapa

2 out of 3 aint bad (I don’t eat dungies). I’ll double up on the sourdough and wine, and hop over to Ghirardelli Square for chocolate.

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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:52:56pm

re: #16 lawhawk

2 out of 3 aint bad (I don’t eat dungies). I’ll double up on the sourdough and wine, and hop over to Ghirardelli Square for chocolate.

Then get some chowda. Though there may be crab in it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:55:38pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:58:04pm
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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 2:58:18pm

I’m lucky with my landlord. When we were shutting the biz down we got booted out of our condo and had to find a new place, stressful because my credit is now shot and we don’t have much dough. Found an apt near my work, good price. Wife shoots out to meet… the landlord knows me because he owns a cabinet shop and we’ve worked together. Bam! Told him about the credit sucking and biz closing and he said don’t worry about it, as long as you guys can make rent I’m good. Turn out it’s a downstairs end unit, the people upstairs are ghosts, and we have 5 mango trees outside. They’re going to start fruiting again in a few months then this lizard will be eating mango daily again, for free.

I just cancelled a cheapo golf club membership and signed up for WaPo and Judd Legum’s Popular Info. Not sure if any other media sources are worth paying for. NYT won’t get a dime from me. Might squeeze out another LGF membership and one more newspaper, if anybody has any recs besides WaPo and PI. And not NYT.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:02:39pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:03:14pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

The schadenfreude is delicious.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:04:16pm

heh

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lawhawk  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:05:05pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:07:25pm

re: #20 BigPapa

Mother Jones? Esquire?

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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:10:50pm

Oh, didn’t think about Mother Jones. Thought about Vanity Fair. But MJ might be a better choice. Irony: when I first started commenting online, Mother Jones comments section was where it all started. They shut it down and I looked for other places… leading me here.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:12:28pm

re: #12 Citizen K

God blesh tay United Schhhhtatez

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Thanos  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:15:50pm

me? I’m the arachnid sheep eating daisies.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:16:59pm

So the local food store chain (part of the Albersons-Safeway megacorp) wants to give me a free candy bar, a “Kinder Bueno”.

Sure, why not. I take free food.

But it appears to be another one of those European hazelnut creations. I’m not so hot on hazelnuts, but they seem to get in everywhere in European desserts.

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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:17:02pm

I thought about Rolling Stone but remembered Taibbi. Nope.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:18:34pm

re: #29 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes. The same here with the local Acme. They are part of the Albertson’s chain. Last week it was peppermint bark.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:20:22pm

re: #31 PhillyPretzel

Food retail in this country pretty much is in the hands for four megacorps:

Albertsons-Safeway
Kroeger
Walmart
Amazon.

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retired cynic  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:20:53pm

re: #25 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Mother Jones? Esquire?

Agree on Esquire. Charlie Pierce is worth it.

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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:21:36pm

I’ve followed Charlie Pierce for a bit. Good fella.

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retired cynic  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:21:44pm

re: #29 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the local food store chain (part of the Albersons-Safeway megacorp) wants to give me a free candy bar, a “Kinder Bueno”.

Sure, why not. I take free food.

But it appears to be another one of those European hazelnut creations. I’m not so hot on hazelnuts, but they seem to get in everywhere in European desserts.

You can send them to me. I LOVE them.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:22:12pm

Aldi trying a push in the US, but I’m not sure if the fact that they mostly sell their house brands is going to help or hurt them. Frankly, I have no problem paying a few pennies more for a name brand if the packaging is better, etc.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:22:24pm

re: #32 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes. I can see that. That is why from time to time I will head out of the city to go to Wegman’s. They have their own chain of stores. At least when you make a complaint they will listen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:25:52pm

jfc

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:26:14pm

re: #20 BigPapa

I’m lucky with my landlord. When we were shutting the biz down we got booted out of our condo and had to find a new place, stressful because my credit is now shot and we don’t have much dough. Found an apt near my work, good price. Wife shoots out to meet… the landlord knows me because he owns a cabinet shop and we’ve worked together. Bam! Told him about the credit sucking and biz closing and he said don’t worry about it, as long as you guys can make rent I’m good. Turn out it’s a downstairs end unit, the people upstairs are ghosts, and we have 5 mango trees outside. They’re going to start fruiting again in a few months then this lizard will be eating mango daily again, for free.

I just cancelled a cheapo golf club membership and signed up for WaPo and Judd Legum’s Popular Info. Not sure if any other media sources are worth paying for. NYT won’t get a dime from me. Might squeeze out another LGF membership and one more newspaper, if anybody has any recs besides WaPo and PI. And not NYT.

mango ice cream for sure
mango juice cocktail (mango, oj, water, sugar)

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:27:07pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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shorter: any poll that doesnt have me ahead is wrong

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:27:14pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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“Congressional Do Nothing Democrats are being absolutely decimated in their districts on the subject of the Impeachment Hoax. People that voted for them are literally screaming in their faces. Crazy Nancy is finding defending Shifty Schiff harder than she thought!”

Trump: I’m gonna stay with “Shifty Schiff” because that’s a beaut. But “Nervous Nancy” didn’t make a dent. How about “Crazy Nancy”? Let’s run it up the flagpole and see who salutes! Ok, “Crazy Nancy” it is. Am I genius or what?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:27:20pm

Traveling around this big country, I believe the best grocery stores are the employee-owned types, the Woodman’s in Wisconsin, or even better, the Hy-Vee in Iowa and surrounding states.

Trader Joe’s has its moments but it insists are locating itself in tight spots, and their penchant for squeezing people at the end of the counter is just maddening.

I remember when Henry Boney had his old large market in downtown San Diego. Unfortunately in recent years Henry’s legacy has fallen prey to the vulture capitalists.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:31:28pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:31:29pm

they’re getting there:

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler accused Senate Republicans of violating their oath to be impartial jurors in an impeachment trial, as GOP senators defended their right to work for President Trump’s acquittal, the Washington Post reports.

Said Nadler: “That’s in violation of the oath that they’re about to take, and it’s a complete subversion of the constitutional scheme,”

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retired cynic  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:32:27pm

re: #44 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

they’re getting there:

Good! Keep pushing!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:33:18pm

re: #42 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Traveling around this big country, I believe the best grocery stores are the employee-owned types, the Woodman’s in Wisconsin, or even better, the Hy-Vee in Iowa and surrounding states.

Trader Joe’s has its moments but it insists are locating itself in tight spots, and their penchant for squeezing people at the end of the counter is just maddening.

I remember when Henry Boney had his old large market in downtown San Diego. Unfortunately in recent years Henry’s legacy has fallen prey to the vulture capitalists.

I’ve become a fan of Market Basket since moving to New England. Our move was just before some in the family of owners tried to sell it off and the workers—non-union—walked off the job to ensure that it stayed in the family under control of the cousin who was more devoted to the legacy. They finally settled. Their produce is often a little on the “pre-picked” side (IMO), so we go to Shaw’s for that. There’s a Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s about 10 miles away. I don’t feel the need to travel that far.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:34:41pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sure, they seem cute, but they’re among the most destructive things on the planet.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:34:55pm

Laurence Tribe said, “What it looks like is that the majority leader is going to conduct this trial as though he’s a member of the defense team.”

“You know, it’s an ancient principle, actually over a millennium old, that you can’t be a judge on your own case, and effectively to allow Trump to call the shots, violates that principle.”

“However, Tribe said the approach, ‘may backfire’ because an exoneration — if that’s what emerges by a Senate that is essentially rigged and fixed….. really doesn’t clear the name of the accused so that the president will go down in history as having been essentially found guilty by the House in a proceeding where he had a chance to defend himself but didn’t. …… and then blockaded the inquiry as though he were a dictator.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:36:13pm

re: #47 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sure, they seem cute, but they’re among the most destructive things on the planet.

I was amazed that the little shit literally ate itself out of the egg

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:36:27pm

re: #42 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Traveling around this big country, I believe the best grocery stores are the employee-owned types, the Woodman’s in Wisconsin, or even better, the Hy-Vee in Iowa and surrounding states.

Trader Joe’s has its moments but it insists are locating itself in tight spots, and their penchant for squeezing people at the end of the counter is just maddening.

I remember when Henry Boney had his old large market in downtown San Diego. Unfortunately in recent years Henry’s legacy has fallen prey to the vulture capitalists.

If you want a grocery story full of intrigue, check out Market Basket and the DeMoulas family story:

en.wikipedia.org

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:37:06pm

re: #42 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I agree. A few years ago Philly had a large storm coming in and I managed to get the day before the storm came in, off. Everyone in Center City was rushing to Trader Joe’s to stock up before the snow storm. I was at my credit union getting some money to do my shopping and I saw the line outside Trader Joe’s and I heard from one of the tellers that they were only letting 10 people in at a time. I went to the local gourmet food store Di Bruno Bros and got all the food I wanted. The only thing they were sold out of was white eggs. The brown ones made great hard boiled eggs and I did not have to wait in any line.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:37:13pm

and schiff:

“I think there are any number of witnesses that should be called in the Senate trial, and many witnesses the American people would like to hear from that the administration has refused to make available. And perhaps of equal and if not greater importance are the thousands and thousands of documents that the administration refuses to turn over. I would hope that every senator of both parties would like to see the documentary evidence.”

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:37:30pm

re: #42 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Trader Joe’s has its moments but it insists are locating itself in tight spots, and their penchant for squeezing people at the end of the counter is just maddening.

Around here anyway, they really seem to love inadequate parking.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:38:08pm

re: #36 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Aldi trying a push in the US, but I’m not sure if the fact that they mostly sell their house brands is going to help or hurt them. Frankly, I have no problem paying a few pennies more for a name brand if the packaging is better, etc.

They’re doing well enough here in the Metroxplex that Rockwall has two, along with two Kroger’s, two Tom Thumbs, a Walmart and a Walmart Market, and a Target with a food section (not quite a Super Target since it was added well after the store opened).

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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:38:09pm

re: #46 Barefoot Grin

I’ve become a fan of Market Basket since moving to New England. Our move was just before some in the family of owners tried to sell it off and the workers—non-union—walked off the job to ensure that it stayed in the family under control of the cousin who was more devoted to the legacy. They finally settled. Their produce is often a little on the “pre-picked” side (IMO), so we go to Shaw’s for that. There’s a Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s about 10 miles away. I don’t feel the need to travel that far.

Damn—I was too late because I had to put a link to the wiki page!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:39:53pm

re: #53 Jebediah, RBG

Around here anyway, they really seem to love inadequate parking.

It’s one of their hallmarks, just like inadequate space at the counter fronts.

I assume some psychologist told them long ago that people feel better not being alone in a large space or something.

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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:40:04pm

re: #39 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

The Wife Unit and I have been adjusting our eating and trying to lose weight. One thing I want to do is oatmeal, the real kind without the added sugars, in the AM, and smush banana or ripe mango into it for sweetening. Sorta looking forward to that.

A friend recommended Sriracha on mango. Said that sugars and capsicum hit the same receptors, and at the same time, sugar wins over the capsicum. He pickles habaneros with rice wine vinegar which has a little sugar in it and says it deheats.

Who am I to argue? I’m now hungry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:43:21pm

re: #57 BigPapa

any capsicum source is a great match to any sugar.
but most folks find it too frightening to try

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:45:11pm

oh and BTW…we gots snow in the Ohio River Valley

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retired cynic  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:46:41pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh and BTW…we gots snow in the Ohio River Valley

Ditto up the Illinois…

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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:46:52pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

any capsicum source is a great match to any sugar.
but most folks find it too frightening to try

Yeah, but I like spicy food. Sriracha isn’t too hot either so Imma give it a go. Just need some mangos. Shit’s expensive, even in HI. Once you have friends or sources with trees nobody wants to pay for it.

Now if I could find a friend with a guava tree. That shit is crazy good. Never find it in the stores because it ripens so fast. That’s why they make jams/jellies and such.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:47:12pm

Arghhhh

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:47:21pm

re: #56 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s one of their hallmarks, just like inadequate space at the counter fronts.

I assume some psychologist told them long ago that people feel better not being alone in a large space or something.

Maybe it was the same psychologist who told them to frequently discontinue items that shoppers have gotten fond of.
As for space, I have been in two with large-ish (by Trader Joe’s standards) interiors. I am so used to being squeezed in that I was temporarily discombobulated.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:47:30pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #60 retired cynic

And this is what is coming to Philly. :(
weather.gov

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:47:51pm

not The Backwoods, but Ohio River Valley

pretty

for now…

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:49:21pm

Once again, this is how you bankrupt a casino.

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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:51:50pm

Now if I could find an avocado tree. I’ve found the ‘secret sauce’ to having fruit year round. Part of the problem with mango and avocado is that it takes a year to fruit, then it’s a glut, then it’s done for the year. The mango produces fruit over maybe a 1-2 month period then it’s done. Then there’s a lot of it.

The trick is to have a few trees but of different species. My landlord has 4 diff mango species, one tree of each. Same with the avocado. Now you have fruit for 6 months at a time as the diff species pop off at slightly diff times.

Papaya is another problem. It produces fruit year round, but the tree keeps getting taller and taller. After 3 years you have to cut it down and start over. So it’s a lot more work than the mango and avocado, which besides the occasional prune, you don’t need to do anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:52:05pm

re: #64 PhillyPretzel

And this is what is coming to Philly. :(
weather.gov

most counties in the Wilmington OH NWS area are under a Winter Advisory for snow/ice (but TheBackwoods is in the clear for now)

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:52:08pm

re: #66 jaunte

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Once again, this is how you bankrupt a casino.

I can’t read the WSJ, so are their complaints that it now protects workers?

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Weaselone  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:53:08pm

re: #66 jaunte

To be fair when the WSJ says worse, it probably just means that it doesn’t hose labor as much as the old version.

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retired cynic  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:54:07pm

re: #67 BigPapa

Speaking as someone in the snowy midwest, you have a problem I wouldn’t mind having. As my father would have said, are you bragging or complaining?

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:55:27pm

re: #69 Belafon

re: #70 Weaselone

Basically that:

The shame is that in many respects the new deal is worse than Nafta, especially its bows to politically managed trade. The new deal tries to steer auto investment with new rules of origin that 75% of a car’s content must be made in North America, up from 62.5% under Nafta. This raises the cost of manufacturing, making North American products less competitive worldwide.

Also reducing North American competitiveness is a new rule mandating that 40% of an auto qualifying for tariff-free trade in the region has to be produced by workers earning $16 an hour. Mandating wage rates ignores the relationship between productivity and output and sets a bad precedent for future trade deals. Mr. Trump is using the mandate to make Mexico less competitive for car production.

The Trump Administration made these labor provisions worse in concessions to the AFL-CIO to get Speaker Nancy Pelosi to allow a vote on the House floor. The unions battered Mexico to allow a new enforcement process that will give American unions a new way to intrude in Mexican labor disputes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:55:30pm

re: #62 Patricia Kayden

Arghhhh

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:56:01pm
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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:56:08pm

WSJ shocked to discover “politically managed trade.”

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:56:54pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

Narrator: “They didn’t extend the deadline.”

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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:57:08pm

re: #71 retired cynic

Speaking as someone in the snowy midwest, you have a problem I wouldn’t mind having. As my father would have said, are you bragging or complaining?

I’m complaining that I’m not able to brag as much as I would like to.

My dream, after we get our finances worked out, is to move to a little higher elevation and have mango and avocado trees, and guava.

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:58:39pm

re: #74 The Pie Overlord!

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Will the Dolly Parton statue be a bust?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:58:55pm
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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 3:59:19pm

re: #74 The Pie Overlord!

Love Dolly. I’ve tweeted at her twice to make a song called ‘Man in My Mentions’ with a Jolene vibe to it but alas, no bueno. I’ve also pestered Weird Al to spoof Cypress Hill with ‘Insane in the Ukraine.’ Sooner or later one of them will succumb to my pestering.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:00:28pm

blast from the past:

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:04:26pm
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BeachDem  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:05:45pm

re: #80 BigPapa

Love Dolly. I’ve tweeted at her twice to make a song called ‘Man in My Mentions’ with a Jolene vibe to it but alas, no bueno. I’ve also pestered Weird Al to spoof Cypress Hill with ‘Insane in the Ukraine.’ Sooner or later one of them will succumb to my pestering.

Dolly’s Imagination Library program makes me smile.

imaginationlibrary.com

And I just want to say that Whitney Houston ruined “I will always love you.”

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mmmirele  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:06:08pm

Ok, and HOLY CRAP.

I keep an eye on some people Just Because. And this drifted through my Instagram feed this morning. Bethel Music is the moneymaking arm of Bethel Church Redding, which is trying to take over the city of Redding, California. I’m putting it behind the private button because not everyone is interested in pictures of a bunch of Trump-worshiping lunatics asking people to pray for a dead toddler to be resurrected. And they are Trump worshipers, as quite a number of Bethel and Bethel-affiliated people were in a picture with Trump from Friday, December 6 passed out by Bethel Music song leader and wannabe congressman Sean Feucht, who was also there.

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I have so many questions I want to ask. As in, why is this particular toddler so special that thousands of people can be called upon to pray for her resurrection? What about other dead toddlers? And how is the funeral home handling what is probably an influx of people wandering in and wanting to lay hands on the child’s little coffin and tell God that she has to be raised from the dead. Is she even at a funeral home, or are the parents ignoring biological reality?

I feel terrible for the parents and any siblings or other relatives that are around. This is not going to end well and I hate to be THAT PERSON to say it.

It’s shit like this that makes me want to bag Christianity and Jesus completely. COMPLETELY.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:06:31pm

re: #82 jaunte

From the typeface that looks like a NYT article.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:09:28pm

If you want to look up a good Christmas movie that isn’t your typical ones, watch Tokyo Godfathers. The only place online that seems to have it for streaming is Sony Crackle, crackle.com.

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William Lewis  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:10:01pm

re: #57 BigPapa

The Wife Unit and I have been adjusting our eating and trying to lose weight. One thing I want to do is oatmeal, the real kind without the added sugars, in the AM, and smush banana or ripe mango into it for sweetening. Sorta looking forward to that.

A friend recommended Sriracha on mango. Said that sugars and capsicum hit the same receptors, and at the same time, sugar wins over the capsicum. He pickles habaneros with rice wine vinegar which has a little sugar in it and says it deheats.

Who am I to argue? I’m now hungry.

When I do oatmeal, I get steel cut oats and cook it over night in a crock pot with heavy cream and dried fruit (apricot and apple are my favorite, ).

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:12:13pm

re: #85 PhillyPretzel

From the typeface that looks like a NYT article.

It is indeed:
nytimes.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:13:25pm

It blew a hole in the sky

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:14:29pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hot Gas Jellyfish

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:15:32pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It blew a hole in the sky

OK, was tempted to delete, as the clip is like 10 years old
But, leaving it since it’s still an interesting clip

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BigPapa  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:18:30pm

re: #87 William Lewis

When I do oatmeal, I get steel cut oats and cook it over night in a crock pot with heavy cream and dried fruit (apricot and apple are my favorite, ).

Damn, that’s a good idea. I don’t want to take the time to boil water in the am. The steel cut is the good stuff. Wifey wants to get an Instant Pot so maybe that’ll be the trick.

(checks steel cut oatmeal recipes online)

Hell yeah will check this out.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:18:44pm

re: #67 BigPapa

Now if I could find an avocado tree.

You could make a fortune selling to millennial toast enthusiasts who apparently can’t afford homes due to their avocado addiction.

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William Lewis  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:19:12pm

re: #84 mmmirele

It’s shit like this that makes me want to bag Christianity and Jesus completely. COMPLETELY.

SMH. All I can say to you is Amen to that. They’ve completely missed the boat.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:22:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:23:34pm

fucking snowflakes

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:25:17pm
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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:25:39pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Outrages”

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:26:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:28:54pm

re: #99 jaunte

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Time to shine some more, Senator Harris.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:31:44pm

This really is at the heart of America’s problems*:

*Edit to say, I didn’t mean to snark because I believe it’s symbolic of lots of other problems that adversely affect the powerless.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:33:25pm

re: #101 Barefoot Grin

“Why don’t you go where the real money is?”
“Because the poor are defenseless.”

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:40:03pm

re: #99 jaunte

In which all the testimony requested will be denied and then it will go the SCOTUS, am I correct?

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:40:26pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It blew a hole in the sky

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Pixies - Monkey Gone To Heaven (Official Video)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:42:51pm

re: #12 Citizen K

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:46:15pm

re: #14 jaunte

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:48:47pm

re: #13 BigPapa

It’s been some time but there ain’t nothing like fresh dungies, hot sourdough, and cold chardonnay at Pier 39 in San Franciso.

For me, it’s She-Crab Soup made from scratch! My aunt knew how to make it so good with sherry!

South Carolina She-Crab Soup with Chef Michelle Weaver

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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:50:42pm

re: #99 jaunte

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The response will (of course) be that they don’t need to hear from any more witnesses because they’ve enough “facts” to declare the whole thing a “hoax,” so they won’t “waste time” doing exactly what they insisted Dems refused to do and “negotiate” with the White House to secure testimony from Mulvaney or Bolton.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:52:36pm

This country is drowning in assholery. In business, more and more managers increase productivity simply by bearing down harder on increasingly helpless workers. Too many managers are stupid, lazy and dishonest because they don’t have to be anything else. Our system allows, indeed rewards, this. Something has to give. As Nick Hanauer said 5 years ago, the pitchforks are coming.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 4:58:42pm
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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:01:27pm

re: #110 jaunte

Susan Collins is also answering to her husband, and probably also realizes she’s going to lose next year. Who wants to do business with the husband of a woman who helped try the president?

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:06:24pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

Best hour on television? Nah. Actually it was March 5, 2016 and it was 1 hour and 35 minutes. The last regular episode of Downton Abbey.

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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:06:38pm

re: #110 jaunte

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In a sane world, it would also put the WH in a tough spot, arguing publicly against allowing any of its staff to testify but demanding that Dems agree to allow Schiff, Pelosi, and the WB to testify.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:07:53pm

re: #111 Belafon

Susan Collins is also answering to her husband, and probably also realizes she’s going to lose next year. Who wants to do business with the husband of a woman who helped try the president?

Had to google. I had zero faith that she would do the right thing anyway, but now I’d call her pro-trump vote a certainty.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:09:51pm

re: #109 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This country is drowning in assholery. In business, more and more managers increase productivity simply by bearing down harder on increasingly helpless workers.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:15:56pm

So I went and got my free Kinder Bueno candy bar… and, well, meh.

Like so many of these European confections, palm kernel oil is a key component. Yuck.

It was ok as a freebie, but I won’t be buying any.

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Interesting Times  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:20:22pm

re: #115 jaunte

That brings me to arrogance. What’s astonishing about our elites is how…arrogant they are…and how ignorant they are…at precisely the same time. Finland just elected a 34 year old woman as a Prime Minister from the Social Democrats. Finland is a society that outperforms ours in every way — every way — imaginable. Finnish happiness is way, way higher — and so is life expectancy, mobility, savings, real incomes, trust, among others. And yet instead of learning a thing from a miracle like that, our elites profess to know a better way…while they’ve run our societies into the ground. What the? Hubris would be an understatement. I don’t think the English language has a word for this weird, fatal combination of arrogance amidst ignorance. Maybe cocksure stupidity comes close.

Read the whole thing - devastatingly accurate assessment of how America set itself on fire so “those people” would burn.

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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:30:27pm

re: #110 jaunte

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Reading the comments to that tweet is absolutely illuminating, mostly in how wingnuts are so stuffed into their own little reality that they don’t get that McConnell’s leverage with regards to the Senate “trial” is limited at best and non-existent at worst.

In the minds of several of them, all McConnell has to do is impose Federal Rules of Evidence, declare that all the testimony heard in the House as “hearsay,” and move to either dismiss or acquit on the argument that no evidence exists to show Trump did anything wrong.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:30:55pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:36:56pm
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mmmirele  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:38:22pm

re: #109 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This country is drowning in assholery. In business, more and more managers increase productivity simply by bearing down harder on increasingly helpless workers. Too many managers are stupid, lazy and dishonest because they don’t have to be anything else. Our system allows, indeed rewards, this. Something has to give. As Nick Hanauer said 5 years ago, the pitchforks are coming.

rant on…

No shit. My office is full of highly-compensated tech people, some of whom are specialists in networking, telecom, server management, that sort of thing, and some, like me, who are generalists very good at getting everyone on the phone and working through a (potentially) serious problem. But did they bother to ask us about the room they were building out for us? No!

So here we are, we have this huge room, desks all lined up in a row, with the monitors ALL AT THE SAME HEIGHT, and the room is freezing. (It was 66.5F on Friday.) Every day I finish with a major crick in the neck because I have to point my head in an unnatural fashion to look at the monitors. I HURT at night. Yet getting someone in to fix the height of the monitors is like asking for the moon or something, because this room was supposed to be perfect. It’s not.

I was at the optometrist’s on Saturday, picking out a new pair of frames for glasses and I just drooled at the optician’s setup—at the right height, very nicely done, and here I am working for a big employer that has a group that all they do is workplace ergonomics, but in order to get them in, I have to take a class and work to adjust my workspace myself. All I can do is raise or lower my chair and my desktop, and neither are my problem. I’ve got the chair all the way up and the desktop all the way down, but the monitor bottoms are still at a craptastic 8.5 inches from the desktop.

Yesterday, my brother got tired of me whining about how I needed a wool sweater and threw a catalog at me, told me to pick one out and he’d buy me one, so I did. At least when the major management comes in sometime early in the New Year to look at the new office, I’ll look spiffy in my charcoal gray wool sweater, my black fingerless gloves, my long sleeved shirt and my nifty red slacks and boots. Dressed more for a day outside, not for a day in a room that should not be 66.5 degrees with these damnable monitors.
/end rant

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:38:22pm

I liked The Dark Knight and I think Ledger’s Joker is one of the best. I had a thought, after seeing a clip of him being used as a meme: Imagine if it had been made after Deadpool and Logan and wasn’t afraid to go rated R.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:47:26pm
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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:48:36pm
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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:49:56pm
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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:50:54pm

re: #123 jaunte

If Laura Trump is a grape, then KellyAnne would be her as a raisin.

Edited

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Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:54:41pm

re: #123 jaunte

We’re decades into this pathetic “can’t say Christmas” propaganda. Pretty much my entire adult life.

This isn’t tricky. If I know what you celebrate, I wish you a good Christmas/Hannukah/Fast/Festivus. If it’s not obvious, you get “Happy Holiday”. So has it always been.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:58:46pm

re: #127 Decatur Deb

You would think at some point their audience would connect with their real life experience of always getting to say Merry Christmas without any pushback, but no.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 5:59:48pm

“Merry Christmas saying must be forbidden somewhere, the news is always talking about it.”

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Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:02:06pm

re: #129 jaunte

“Merry Christmas saying must be forbidden somewhere, the news is always talking about it.”

It’s not about the mythology, it’s about the fucking good will.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:02:28pm

re: #128 jaunte

You would think at some point their audience would connect with their real life experience of _______________________, but no.

always getting to say Merry Christmas without any pushback
walking out their door every day and not being robbed by blacks
seeing hardworking Latinos
seeing promises that tax cuts will make their lives better not happening
etc.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:02:53pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:07:31pm

re: #123 jaunte

Christian friends of mine go out of their way to write “Merry CHRISTmas!!!” Such an annoying lot.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:08:08pm

Took this pic after my ride today. Three weeks of rain have the place starting to look like Ireland!

Canada Road, 15Dec19

Compare to this - the same spot in September. By November, of course, it was even worse!

Canada Road, 13Sep19
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:08:26pm

re: #133 Ace Rothstein

Christian friends of mine go out of their way to write “Merry CHRISTmas!!!” Such an annoying lot.

Ugh, what a bunch of self-centered assholes.

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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:08:57pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The level of pretzelization that is going on in the GOP ranks to argue that Trump wasn’t trying to corrupt the 2020 elections by siccing Ukraine on the Bidens is just fascinating to watch. In six months, I expect them to be screaming that Trump never even mentioned the name “Biden” to Zelensky.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:09:11pm

re: #133 Ace Rothstein

I hope they aren’t putting up any pagan fir trees.

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mmmirele  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:10:49pm

re: #133 Ace Rothstein

Christian friends of mine go out of their way to write “Merry CHRISTmas!!!” Such an annoying lot.

I’m reminded that the anti-ChristMAS Puritan elders of the Massachusetts Bay Colony would have fined them or WORSE for their perfidy. To them, Christmas was popish foolery and not to be celebrated in the least.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:12:12pm

re: #137 jaunte

Or singing carols, since that originated with drunken pagan Europeans dancing around stone circles.

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William Lewis  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:12:45pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

It’s not about the mythology, it’s about the fucking good will.

I had a right wing friend go ballistic from the abbreviation Xmas - never mind that was started by people trying to remind of Christ and the Cross :)

But really, maybe we would have been better off if the Puritans had won on it and it remained a purely religious holiday - as a nation we’d be over it by now.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:13:33pm

re: #139 Ace Rothstein

Oh, there’s no place like home for the holidays Merry Christmas!
‘Cause no matter how far away you roam
If you want to be happy in a million ways
For the holidays Merry Christmas! you can’t beat home sweet home!

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:15:32pm

re: #141 jaunte

Oh, there’s no place like home for the holidays Merry ChristCHRISTmas!
‘Cause no matter how far away you roam
If you wanna to be happy in a million ways
For the holidays Merry ChristCHRISTmas! you can’t beat home sweet home!

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Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:15:48pm

re: #140 William Lewis

I had a right wing friend go ballistic from the abbreviation Xmas - never mind that was started by people trying to remind of Christ and the Cross :)

But really, maybe we would have been better off if the Puritans had won on it and it remained a purely religious holiday - as a nation we’d be over it by now.

Our ancient nuns were mildly anti-“X”, said it was lazy. (Especially if not written fully in the Palmer Method.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:15:50pm

Really, people who go out of their way to be religiously obnoxious are doing it just to draw attention to themselves and appear pious in front of others. It’s every bit as hypocritical as Jesus accused the Pharisees of being in his day.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:19:50pm

re: #133 Ace Rothstein

Christian friends of mine go out of their way to write “Merry CHRISTmas!!!” Such an annoying lot.

I deal with those radical Xtains on the job. “We’re going to say ‘Merry CHRISTmas’ no matter what…even at Starbucks”.

Doesn’t stop there with them. Once of them ordered food as “Mary Christmas” and when the guard desk called me I had no clue who ordered the food, so it went back…then the same thing with another food order…

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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:20:28pm

“Happy Holidays” is a phrase that historical evidence shows has been around since at least the 16th century, and in popular American usage as far back as 1863. Companies have been using it to hock goods for the Christmas season as far back as the 1910s. So the idea that it’s a phrase of contemporary vintage created by corporations being “PC” is total horseshit.

What is a recent phrase? “War on Christmas,” with roots in the far-right freakouts of the early 00’s. Like so much of the projection that has gone on ever since the GOP rebranded themselves as the party of “family values,” the idea that “Happy Holidays” is an attempt to be “PC” is really all about whipping the evangelicals into an annual froth over a manufactured “War” that is portrayed as trying to reduce their influence on American culture.

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jaunte  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:21:03pm

re: #145 Joe Bacon 🌹

The real agenda is forcing other people to say it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:21:26pm

I took the Big Galoot (Rango) for a walk to the Dam yesterday. He was a happy boy!

Later, when Rango was sacked out blowing like a bellows, Dory curled up on the couch to chill for a while…

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Jay C  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:21:55pm

re: #124 Belafon

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So basically, after a month of WH/GOP “defense” of Trump (i.e., hysterical denialism, high-volume deflection, conspiracy-theory handwaving, etc.), they’ve succeeded in moving the needle on impeachment ONE percentage point. IN FAVOR of impeachment and removal.
Swell job, guys..

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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:24:24pm

re: #149 Jay C

So basically, after a month of WH/GOP “defense” of Trump (i.e., hysterical denialism, high-volume deflection, conspiracy-theory handwaving, etc.), they’ve succeeded in moving the needle on impeachment ONE percentage point. IN FAVOR of impeachment and removal.
Swell job, guys..

How bad are the polls on impeachment for Trump? So bad that I’ve seen wingnuts forced to argue that the polls that really matter are the ones in swing states. That the national polls aren’t reliable because if Trump is doing well in the swing state polls, then it means impeachment is gonna hurt Dems in November.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:26:07pm

re: #139 Ace Rothstein

Or singing carols, since that originated with drunken pagan Europeans dancing around stone circles.

Loved the way the Italian kids in our town did it. They combined Christmas caroling with Trick-or-treat while collecting lire “for the Church”. It went funny- bad one year because we weren’t on their postal system and our mailbox speaker was disconnected. When we didn’t notice them at the end of the long driveway, they put an M-80 in the box. That stirred up the carabinieri, because isolated American families were on their watchlist.

Here is the holy vandals Christmas carol:

Andrea Bocelli - Tu Scendi Dalle Stele

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:27:45pm
153
makeitstop  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:32:30pm

For those who are interested, Red Hot Chili Peppers have announced that John Frusciante is returning to the band.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:33:46pm

re: #152 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The big difference is that Republicans were going to Nixon and telling him he had to resign or they would vote him out. The news control now is to keep GOP senators in line.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:37:42pm

It kills me to hear grifter class entrepreneurs respond to critics by asking, “Have YOU ever had to make payroll?” as though you have to have people working for you to qualify for an opinion on economics, taxation, etc.
My response is, hell yes, I did make payroll and more importantly, making payroll is no great achievement and you are a sad excuse for a business manager if you have to sweat it every cycle. Making payroll is the very least you can do, the absolute minimum requirement, for staying in business. In Texas they have a surprisingly strict payday law, in that it has criminal as well as civil penalties, including jail time. As I told one grubber, they will seize not just you assets but your ass if you fail to pay people their due wages.

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Mattand  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:40:19pm

re: #149 Jay C

So basically, after a month of WH/GOP “defense” of Trump (i.e., hysterical denialism, high-volume deflection, conspiracy-theory handwaving, etc.), they’ve succeeded in moving the needle on impeachment ONE percentage point. IN FAVOR of impeachment and removal.
Swell job, guys..

Josh Marshall was writing the other day that for all of the people worrying about the boomerang effect, the public was against Clinton being impeached and responded by re-electing him.

As you pointed out, and as even a Fox News poll shows, the public wants Trump impeached, if not gone outright. Although I get the feeling far too many Americans think that impeachment is removal.

I really hope that’s the case. Because if it’s one thing that Trump, the GOP and the various and sundry MAGAts have show over the last three years, the Constitution doesn’t mean jack shit if one party is in a full-on power grab.

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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:41:20pm

re: #154 Belafon

The big difference is that Republicans were going to Nixon and telling him he had to resign or they would vote him out. The news control now is to keep GOP senators in line.

It helps to remember that when Nixon resigned roughly a week after the 18 min of “missing” tape was turned over, the public was actually capable of being shocked about what the man had done and had ordered be done. We totally lack that here, to the point that I doubt even the release of the actual transcript from its password-protected hiding spot would do much to sway his supporters that he needs to go. When Nixon resigned, it was because even the party faithful believed he’d crossed the line. If Trump resigns, it will be despite the party faithful believing that he can do no wrong.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:41:53pm

re: #156 Mattand

Half the country thinks impeachment is unconstitutional.

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Mattand  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:43:16pm

re: #140 William Lewis

I had a right wing friend go ballistic from the abbreviation Xmas - never mind that was started by people trying to remind of Christ and the Cross :)

But really, maybe we would have been better off if the Puritans had won on it and it remained a purely religious holiday - as a nation we’d be over it by now.

I purposely write “Xmas” anymore: partly to piss off any Xmas warriors out there, and partly because it’s faster.

I saw a War on Xmas meme today that, surprise, surprise, was a sentence entirely bereft of proper capitalization. I mentioned that author of the meme should ask Jesus to leave some remedial grammar lessons under the tree this year.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:44:04pm

re: #156 Mattand

Josh Marshall was writing the other day that for all of the people worrying about the boomerang effect, the public was against Clinton being impeached and responded by re-electing him.

As you pointed out, and as even a Fox News poll shows, the public wants Trump impeached, if not gone outright. Although I get the feeling far too many Americans think that impeachment is removal.

I really hope that’s the case. Because if it’s one thing that Trump, the GOP and the various and sundry MAGAts have show over the last three years, the Constitution doesn’t mean jack shit if one party is in a full-on power grab.

Part of the reason Moscow Mitch is trying to avoid a Senate trial is having a presiding judge will make it look more formal, and I think some of the Republican voters - like my coworkers - who are confused by the current news coverage, will ending up getting a much clearer picture of what is going on.

I also think putting Amash on the House group arguing for impeachment would be a good idea.

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Mattand  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:45:05pm

re: #158 Ace Rothstein

Half the country thinks impeachment is unconstitutional.

More than half the country thinks “freedom of speech” means “freedom from criticism” and that “freedom of religion” translates into “the US is a Christian theocracy”.

We ain’t the brightest bulbs on the planet at times.

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sagehen  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:46:24pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:47:39pm

re: #156 Mattand

Josh Marshall was writing the other day that for all of the people worrying about the boomerang effect, the public was against Clinton being impeached and responded by re-electing him.

As you pointed out, and as even a Fox News poll shows, the public wants Trump impeached, if not gone outright. Although I get the feeling far too many Americans think that impeachment is removal.

I really hope that’s the case. Because if it’s one thing that Trump, the GOP and the various and sundry MAGAts have show over the last three years, the Constitution doesn’t mean jack shit if one party is in a full-on power grab.

IIRC, the polls regarding Clinton’s impeachment never got above 45%, with a lot of disapproval over how the Repubs were handling the whole mess. And even at his worst, Bill’s job approval number dipped below 56% from the moment he denied having an affair til the day the Senate voted against his removal. While his personal approval numbers tanked and have never fully recovered, that wasn’t enough to sink his presidency.

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Mattand  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:47:42pm

re: #160 Belafon

Part of the reason Moscow Mitch is trying to avoid a Senate trial is having a presiding judge will make it look more formal, and I think some of the Republican voters - like my coworkers - who are confused by the current news coverage, will ending up getting a much clearer picture of what is going on.

I also think putting Amash on the House group arguing for impeachment would be a good idea.

I just read something in the last half hour that was along the lines of “Trump didn’t get a fair trial in House”.

Shoot me now…

165
Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:48:50pm
A California-based immigrant rights group, Freedom for Immigrants, is suing the Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) for shutting down a toll-free hotline that gave detained immigrants the ability to report custody issues. The group filed a lawsuit last week to reinstate its National Detention Hotline, a free and confidential source.

Freedom for Immigrants created the hotline in 2013 to allow immigrants in custody to not only connect with their families, but find resources, and report physical and verbal abuse. The hotline was shut down Aug. 7 by ICE, two weeks after it was featured in the final season of Netflix’s Orange Is the New Black.

Characters in the show discretely shared the number for the hotline and even warned one another to be careful. “You have to be careful, though. Apparently, if they figure out that you’re using the hotline, Big Brother shuts it down.” The warning became true when ICE later blocked all access to the hotline stating it was not a government-approved assistance provider.

According to Los Angeles Magazine, ICE told Freedom for Immigrants that toll-free numbers for pro bono attorneys and organizations must be approved by the Executive Office for Immigration Review and that those not on the list are removed from the system. ICE standards allow detainees to make free calls to make free calls to legal service providers on the approved list “for the purpose of obtaining initial legal representation.”

dailykos.com

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 15, 2019 • 6:50:11pm

re: #164 Mattand

The hearings in the House are like a grand jury, for fuck’s sake.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:00:37pm

Don’t know if anyone here saw this, but Newtown High School (CT.) won the state championship on a last-second play on the anniversary of Sandy Hook.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:02:06pm
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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:04:54pm

Here’s your feel good story, and something to keep fighting for: Single Dad Fostered 33 Kids, And Just Adopted Five Tots Before They Were To Be Forever Separated.. I am only going to copy the last part because you just need to go read it:

Single father of 12, Lamont Thomas.

A very good man.

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Mattand  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:05:32pm

re: #168 Dread Pirate

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I don’t qualify as poor, but this is why I report every penny that comes in. I figure that a small time freelancer is a more inviting, easier target than even a medium-sized corporation.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:18:59pm

Regarding the Cyriak video.

Who knew the Elder Gods were teddy bears and some sort of sheep thingies?

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Interesting Times  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:19:30pm

re: #156 Mattand

Josh Marshall was writing the other day that for all of the people worrying about the boomerang effect, the public was against Clinton being impeached and responded by re-electing him.

Impeachment happened after he won a second term, though:

The impeachment of Bill Clinton was initiated on October 8, 1998, when the United States House of Representatives voted to commence impeachment proceedings against Bill Clinton, the 42nd president of the United States, for “high crimes and misdemeanors”. The specific charges against Clinton were lying under oath and obstruction of justice.

So…I wonder what Josh Marshall actually meant?

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:20:20pm

re: #140 William Lewis

I had a right wing friend go ballistic from the abbreviation Xmas - never mind that was started by people trying to remind of Christ and the Cross :)

But really, maybe we would have been better off if the Puritans had won on it and it remained a purely religious holiday - as a nation we’d be over it by now.

Claire Connor described that very trope: Raging over “XMAS” was a John Birch ratfuck.

And Jesus is not the reason for the season.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:24:46pm
175
Mattand  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:26:36pm

re: #172 Interesting Times

Impeachment happened after he won a second term, though:

So…I wonder what Josh Marshall actually meant?

It means I fucked up remembering the article. I think he was talking about the congressional elections where the Dems picked up seats. Sorry about that.

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Jay C  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:32:32pm

re: #172 Interesting Times

Impeachment happened after he won a second term, though:

So…I wonder what Josh Marshall actually meant?

I was wondering too: Josh should know his political history better than that. As I recall, Clinton’s impeachment (and subsequent inconclusive Senate trial) basically did little to affect his polling numbers one way or another. What it did do, IIRC, was affect Al Gore’s election chances in 2000: As I remember it*, he was loath to associate himself too closely with Clinton, and lukewarm about having Bill campaign for him, presumably because he was afraid the scandal-stink would cling to him (and having Designated Moral Scold Joe Lieberman as a running mate didn’t help much).

*quite possibly unclearly

re: #175 Mattand OK. Never mind.

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Citizen K  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:34:10pm

re: #176 Jay C

I was wondering too: Josh should know his political history better than that: As I recall, Clinton’s impeachment (and subsequent inconclusive Senate trial) basically did little to affect his polling numbers one way or another. What it did do, IIRC, was affect Al Gore’s election chances in 2000: As I remember it*, he was loath to associate himself too closely with Clinton, and lukewarm about having Bill campaign for him, presumably because he was afraid the scandal-stink would cling to him (and having Designated Moral Scold Joe Lieberman didn’t help much).

*quite possibly unclearly

That’s what I remember of it too. A lot of it from his advisers basically steering him away from any sort of association with Clinton and being as milquetoast and inoffensive as possible to avoid any kind of attachment to the impeachment process.

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Weaselone  Dec 15, 2019 • 7:59:55pm

re: #168 Dread Pirate

This isn’t exactly ground breaking. I’ve been seeing articles about the need to increase funding for the IRS for the last 2 decades. The underfunding is done deliberately to make it impossible for the IRS to do more than its basic functions. It doesn’t have the resources to hire the numbers of high caliber lawyers and forensic accountants it needs to go after the high dollar tax frauds.

I see a lot of people in the responses going, yeah but they could get lots of money from those big tax cheats. The problem is the IRS isn’t structured that way - they don’t get to keep the money they get from the audits, so hiring the expensive lawyers, auditors and accountants doesn’t do much for them. They’re better off with more boots on the ground to carry out the basic work of the organization.

There’s fixes to this - one is to just give them more money. Another is to allow the IRS to keep a portion of the funds obtained from high value cases to supplement their budget.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 15, 2019 • 8:01:56pm

From downstairs:

re: #107 BigPapa

This piece in Rolling Stone is epic:
False Idol — Why the Christian Right Worships Donald Trump
By ALEX MORRIS

It’s articles like this that can persuade people that there was merit to Karl Marx argument that “Religion is the opium of the people”. There are so many who are inspired by their religion to help others but too many are captured by a prosperity gospel or by white evangelicals and other conservatives (such as William Barr) who have an outsized presence in the public arena and who use their religion to bludgeon others.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 8:04:25pm

re: #178 Weaselone

This isn’t exactly ground breaking. I’ve been seeing articles about the need to increase funding for the IRS for the last 2 decades. The underfunding is done deliberately to make it impossible for the IRS to do more than its basic functions. It doesn’t have the resources to hire the numbers of high caliber lawyers and forensic accountants it needs to go after the high dollar tax frauds.

I see a lot of people in the responses going, yeah but they could get lots of money from those big tax cheats. The problem is the IRS isn’t structured that way - they don’t get to keep the money they get from the audits, so hiring the expensive lawyers, auditors and accountants doesn’t do much for them. They’re better off with more boots on the ground to carry out the basic work of the organization.

There’s fixes to this - one is to just give them more money. Another is to allow the IRS to keep a portion of the funds obtained from high value cases to supplement their budget.

You’d have to figure out a way to make it more costly for rich people to buy Congressmen than it would be to go through an audit.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 15, 2019 • 8:09:51pm

re: #170 Mattand

As a freelancer myself, as long as you’re consistent every year, you’ll probably never get into any trouble.

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Weaselone  Dec 15, 2019 • 8:14:25pm

re: #180 Belafon

You’d have to figure out a way to make it more costly for rich people to buy Congressmen than it would be to go through an audit.

You’d have to find a way to make most Americans care first. In general, they don’t like the IRS so the reality that it’s chronically underfunded doesn’t register with them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 15, 2019 • 8:17:15pm

re: #180 Belafon

You’d have to figure out a way to make it more costly for rich people to buy Congressmen than it would be to go through an audit.

The problem is that, as mentioned above, these tax returns are extremely complex and require excessive resources and extreme expertise to untangle efforts to deceive auditors. Indeed, it is possible that the accountants working for the IRS do not have the level of knowledge of arcane practices to untangle the returns.

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Chrysicat  Dec 15, 2019 • 8:20:53pm
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 15, 2019 • 8:52:30pm

re: #145 Joe Bacon 🌹

Doesn’t stop there with them. Once of them ordered food as “Mary Christmas” and when the guard desk called me I had no clue who ordered the food, so it went back…then the same thing with another food order…

You know Mary - she married Warren Christmas.

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stpaulbear  Dec 15, 2019 • 8:57:35pm

re: #145 Joe Bacon 🌹

I deal with those radical Xtains on the job. “We’re going to say ‘Merry CHRISTmas’ no matter what…even at Starbucks”.

Doesn’t stop there with them. Once of them ordered food as “Mary Christmas” and when the guard desk called me I had no clue who ordered the food, so it went back…then the same thing with another food order…

I bet they followed up by giving the restaurant a bad review.

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Belafon  Dec 15, 2019 • 8:58:21pm

re: #185 Grunthos the Flatulent

You know Mary - she married Warren Christmas.

I met a woman named Carrie Grant. She had to explain to people that she married into that name.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 15, 2019 • 9:16:25pm

re: #115 jaunte

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Trickle down really means golden parachutes for the rich and golden showers for everyone else!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 15, 2019 • 9:18:14pm

re: #109 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This country is drowning in assholery. In business, more and more managers increase productivity simply by bearing down harder on increasingly helpless workers. Too many managers are stupid, lazy and dishonest because they don’t have to be anything else. Our system allows, indeed rewards, this. Something has to give. As Nick Hanauer said 5 years ago, the pitchforks are coming.

Don’t get me started about the agency I work for where the motto is “Do More With Less” ever since I started working for it in…1978!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 15, 2019 • 9:24:26pm

re: #158 Ace Rothstein

Half the country thinks impeachment is unconstitutional.

Meanwhile the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine is cranked up to 11 calling for the impeachment of Pelosi and Schiff!

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sagehen  Dec 15, 2019 • 9:25:49pm

re: #187 Belafon

I met a woman named Carrie Grant. She had to explain to people that she married into that name.

I went to college with a guy named Brook Trout.

I last saw him at a reunion; he brought his daughter Rainbow.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 15, 2019 • 9:28:06pm

re: #189 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t get me started about the agency I work for where the motto is “Do More With Less” ever since I started working for it in…1978!

So by now you must be doing everything with nothing.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 15, 2019 • 9:31:08pm

re: #179 Hecuba’s daughter

From downstairs:

It’s articles like this that can persuade people that there was merit to Karl Marx argument that “Religion is the opium of the people”. There are so many who are inspired by their religion to help others but too many are captured by a prosperity gospel or by white evangelicals and other conservatives (such as William Barr) who have an outsized presence in the public arena and who use their religion to bludgeon others.

Well, people are always looking for excuses to be dicks to other people.

And religion is a favourite excuse.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 15, 2019 • 9:32:28pm

re: #192 Grunthos the Flatulent

So by now you must be doing everything with nothing.

Almost…

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Cheechako  Dec 15, 2019 • 10:20:02pm

re: #189 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t get me started about the agency I work for where the motto is “Do More With Less” ever since I started working for it in…1978!

I started with the Feds in 1962 with the same motto. Actually, that motto was in effect every one of the 45 years I worked for them. Someone always asked “Where do I cut and what target(s) should I give up?” and there is never an answer.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 16, 2019 • 12:21:21am

re: #32 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Food retail in this country pretty much is in the hands for four megacorps:

Albertsons-Safeway
Kroeger
Walmart
Amazon.

Yeah, our local Giant Eagle is closing up. Walmart up the road has killed them.

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Jay C  Dec 16, 2019 • 1:54:53am

re: #191 sagehen

I went to college with a guy named Brook Trout.

I last saw him at a reunion; he brought his daughter Rainbow.

Is that a true story?
Sounds fishy to me…

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 16, 2019 • 3:39:05am

re: #191 sagehen

I went to college with a guy named Brook Trout.

I last saw him at a reunion; he brought his daughter Rainbow.

There’s something fishy about that story.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 16, 2019 • 5:45:58am

re: #36 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Aldi trying a push in the US, but I’m not sure if the fact that they mostly sell their house brands is going to help or hurt them. Frankly, I have no problem paying a few pennies more for a name brand if the packaging is better, etc.

They’re doing just fine here in my little NW PA town. They just renovated their store to add a little more space on the property.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 16, 2019 • 7:34:20am

re: #187 Belafon

I met a woman named Carrie Grant. She had to explain to people that she married into that name.

In California when I was a kid I lived next door to a kid named Charlie Brown. And I went to high school with a kid named Robin Hood.


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