The Bob Cesca Podcast: We Impeached Donald Trump

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Law Office of John J. Sheehan, LLC:

We Impeached Donald Trump — NSFW! Last show of 2019; TRex David Ferguson from the TRex Report Podcast his here; Donald Trump is officially impeached; We recap the historic day; Republicans act like poop flinging monkeys; The nobility and decorum of the Democrats; Pelosi scolds Democratic applause; Pelosi to hold articles until McConnell establishes a fair trial; Tulsi voted present; The civil war over Tiny Trump; The Money Man Returns From The Grave; Mark Meadows is retiring; With music by Quivvver and Lizanne Knott; and more!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 19, 2019 • 8:29:31pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 19, 2019 • 8:30:01pm

I see that the WaPo has picked up on that story I mentioned last thread. Right now, it’s the second most-read story.

Christianity Today, an influential evangelical magazine, says President Trump should be ‘removed from office’

The evangelical magazine founded by the late evangelist the Rev. Billy Graham published a surprising editorial by its editor in chief on Thursday calling for President Trump’s removal. The magazine has been critical of Trump but not politically outspoken during his administration.

The piece, which appeared to draw so many readers that the magazine’s website crashed briefly, was written by Mark Galli, who called Trump “a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused.”

“Whether Mr. Trump should be removed from office by the Senate or by popular vote next election — that is a matter of prudential judgment,” the editorial said. “That he should be removed, we believe, is not a matter of partisan loyalties but loyalty to the Creator of the Ten Commandments.”

I’m not going to say ‘yay rah rah!”. I’m more hoping for injuries on both sides.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 19, 2019 • 8:34:14pm

re: #2 stpaulbear

I see that the WaPo has picked up on that story I mentioned last thread. Right now, it’s the second most-read story.

Christianity Today, an influential evangelical magazine, says President Trump should be ‘removed from office’

I’m not going to say ‘yay rah rah!”. I’m more hoping for injuries on both sides.

I’m guessing that Franklin Graham is not in any way associated with the magazine.

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jaunte  Dec 19, 2019 • 8:36:43pm
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jaunte  Dec 19, 2019 • 8:37:17pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 19, 2019 • 8:39:23pm
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plansbandc  Dec 19, 2019 • 8:50:32pm

CL’d

So White Sands is getting an upgrade to National Park. So cool. They’ve been hoping to become a National Park for years.

Can’t believe it happened under tRump’s watch. Must have slipped it by the stable genius, being that he doesn’t represent our state since we didn’t vote for him.

Congrats to the cool rangers we met!

If you get the chance, go there. It’s so beautiful and otherworldly.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 19, 2019 • 8:57:18pm

Coming up early in the morn, 6:36:43 a.m. EST

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wrenchwench  Dec 19, 2019 • 8:59:12pm

re: #7 plansbandc

CL’d

So White Sands is getting an upgrade to National Park. So cool. They’ve been hoping to become a National Park for years.

Can’t believe it happened under tRump’s watch. Must have slipped it by the stable genius, being that he doesn’t represent our state since we didn’t vote for him.

Congrats to the cool rangers we met!

If you get the chance, go there. It’s so beautiful and otherworldly.

QFT, in honor of CL.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 19, 2019 • 9:04:47pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

Giphy

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 19, 2019 • 9:24:56pm

re: #4 jaunte

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Did we expect Fucked Up Franky to respond any other way?

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Mattand  Dec 19, 2019 • 9:30:33pm

re: #2 stpaulbear

I see that the WaPo has picked up on that story I mentioned last thread. Right now, it’s the second most-read story.

Christianity Today, an influential evangelical magazine, says President Trump should be ‘removed from office’

I’m not going to say ‘yay rah rah!”. I’m more hoping for injuries on both sides.

That’s kinda where I’m at. If these folks were serious about any of this, they’ll vote for the Democratic candidate next year. Which they won’t.

As has been pointed out several times before, any Never Trumper is only pissed off that Trump says the quiet parts loud. They’re fine with all the kids in cages and rich people never paying taxes again. They just want someone like Kasich or Romney who isn’t suffering from obvious dementia.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 19, 2019 • 9:48:08pm

re: #12 Mattand

That’s kinda where I’m at. If these folks were serious about any of this, they’ll vote for the Democratic candidate next year. Which they won’t.

As has been pointed out several times before, any Never Trumper is only pissed off that Trump says the quiet parts loud. They’re fine with all the kids in cages and rich people never paying taxes again. They just want someone like Kasich or Romney who isn’t suffering from obvious dementia.

AND

Kasich, Romney, George C and all of the rest of those Republican “Never Trumpers” have absolutely NO problem with all of the evil actions Trump committs!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 19, 2019 • 10:09:36pm

A few years old, but an interesting rendition nevertheless:

Carol of The Bells - Handpan (Hang drum) - VasilisV

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Belafon  Dec 19, 2019 • 10:19:45pm

Two of the past three days my CERT team has been deployed to help firefighters. We are now doing decontamination in addition to supplying water and a rest area if they need one, scrubbing them down after they go into a fire so they don’t carry the stuff back home. The fires both started in the attic, not a Christmas tree fire or anything like that.

Our fire department is mostly voluntary, and I found out that my son’s band director is a volunteer fire fighter, whose job is to drive one of the trucks.

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Belafon  Dec 19, 2019 • 10:20:38pm

I had to upding this post because it has the Pelosi look.

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Targetpractice  Dec 19, 2019 • 10:30:19pm

GOP: We have no intention of taking our oaths seriously and are going to stomp those Articles flat the moment they’re handed to us!

Also GOP: YOU CAN’T WITHHOLD THOSE ARTICLES! YOU’RE NOT TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY!! THERE ARE RULES ABOUT THESE THINGS!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 19, 2019 • 10:49:47pm
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uriel  Dec 19, 2019 • 11:41:25pm

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

You know, I’ve never seen ‘Cats’- either live or the movie version- and yet I have an undying hatred for it sight unseen.

Of all the amazing things T.S. Elliot left the world, the one that the vast majority of people are probably aware of is not Prufrock or Wasteland, but Sir ALW’s jellicle ball nonsense. I know that there are some issues with Elliot’s personal beliefs, but at a minimum, one of those two poems would appear on any top ten list of English poetry. “I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each./ I do not think that they will sing to me.” Is one of the best couplets ever. Not to mention, “not with a bang but with a whimper.”

And all most people know about him is a bunch of air-brushed, Lisa Frank inspired cat-cosplayers. Dancing demanding numbers, I’ll grant. But still.

Flame off. (Although I will admit, Sir ALW did leave us one good thing- and that’s Paul F. Tompkin’s impersonation of him. So, a certain synchronicity there.)

(ETA: I tried to find a youtube for that last bit, but didn’t have any luck. But for anyone who has Netflix, I highly recommend Comedy Bang Bang’s “Casey Wilson Wears a White Lace Dress & a Black Blazer.” Just amazing on so many levels. In fact, I’m going to go re-watch it right now.)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 19, 2019 • 11:45:02pm

Earlier I posted the video put up yesterday, showing mealworms eating styrofoam:

mealworms eating styrofoam

Later Woods put up a short explanation:

Stanford study shows mealworms can eat toxic plastic additives

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gocart mozart  Dec 19, 2019 • 11:54:14pm

Sean Davis Democrats like Monkeys humping a doorknob
My lexicon research

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 19, 2019 • 11:55:42pm

Geminga is about 800ly from Earth:

NASA’s Fermi Finds Vast ‘Halo’ Around Nearby Pulsar

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gocart mozart  Dec 19, 2019 • 11:56:17pm

This is a better mouse trap someone built

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 20, 2019 • 12:03:35am

Heh, catch this easy-listening album from 1968, it has that glee-club feel that is hard to find today:

𝐏𝐞𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐖𝐨𝐨𝐝 𝐒𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐫𝐬 & 𝐎𝐫𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚 / 𝐉𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐂𝐡𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐦𝐚𝐬 𝐒𝐨𝐧𝐠𝐬 / 𝟐𝟎-𝐓𝐫𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐂𝐡𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐦𝐚𝐬

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 20, 2019 • 12:12:10am

Vince Guaraldi put out one of the greatest Christmas music albums of all time back in 1965.

Vince Guaraldi Trio - The Charlie Brown Christmas Songs (FULL ALBUM - GREATEST JAZZ COMPOSER)

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Dread Pirate  Dec 20, 2019 • 12:15:08am
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2019 • 12:30:23am

re: #27 Dread Pirate

That’s crazy.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2019 • 12:32:47am

Insomnia gocart says, Rod Dreher is a dick who is obsessed with genitals but only in a purely heteronormative way.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2019 • 12:37:21am
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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2019 • 12:45:57am
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Dread Pirate  Dec 20, 2019 • 12:49:12am

re: #30 gocart mozart

It’s certainly gonna get interesting when the Giuliani, Toensing, diGenova, Parnas, Firtash, et all story fills itself in.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 20, 2019 • 12:49:14am

re: #30 gocart mozart

You bet, Trump desperately wants to be cleared by a Senate GOP trial, as much for his own narcissistic ego validation as for his re-election chances next year. If Pelosi and the Democrats in the House can continue to deny him that ego validation, he’s gonna end up experiencing some kind of ego breakdown.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 1:08:49am

re: #12 Mattand

As has been pointed out several times before, any Never Trumper is only pissed off that Trump says the quiet parts loud. They’re fine with all the kids in cages and rich people never paying taxes again. They just want someone like Kasich or Romney who isn’t suffering from obvious dementia.

So all they need is 30% rabid Trumpers and enough people willing to overlook his personality deficits and they can gain an EC majority again in 2020.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 20, 2019 • 1:16:00am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So all they need is 30% rabid Trumpers and enough people willing to overlook his personality deficits and they can gain an EC majority again in 2020.

Trump’s pathological personality disorders are now glaringly obvious to everyone and the GOP seems to be keeping their fingers crossed that there’s juuust enough people out there willing to overlook those issues and vote to re-elect him.

As they say, “That’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for ‘em.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 1:18:13am

re: #35 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s pathological personality disorders are now glaringly obvious to everyone and the GOP seems to be keeping their fingers crossed that there’s juuust enough people out there willing to overlook those issues and vote to re-elect him.

As they say, “That’s a bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s see if it pays off for ‘em.”

It worked in 2016, along with massive active voter suppression and enough trolls, bots and ratfuckers to convince people to be indifferent or apathetic (“the parties are all the same” “Hillary is also corrupt”, etc.)

It is the only strategy they have left, so it looks like they have to double down on the voter suppression and outright tampering and manipulation.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 20, 2019 • 1:25:21am

re: #36 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It worked in 2016, along with massive active voter suppression and enough trolls, bots and ratfuckers to convince people to be indifferent or apathetic (“the parties are all the same” “Hillary is also corrupt”, etc.)

It is the only strategy they have left, so it looks like they have to double down on the voter suppression and outright tampering and manipulation.

Well then, let’s keep our fingers crossed that this strategy fails - if it’s the only strategy the GOP has left, then it’s failure will, with any luck, herald their demise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 1:29:22am

re: #37 Dr Lizardo

Well then, let’s keep our fingers crossed that this strategy fails - if it’s the only strategy the GOP has left, then it’s failure will, with any luck, herald their demise.

The GOP have blocked any attempts at making our electoral system less vulnerable to tampering and manipulation, and will be the first one to decry “voter fraud” if they lose.

Heck, even when they one Trump still claimed “massive voter fraud” to explain his popular vote loss.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 2:09:41am

even when they won (precaffeinated state)

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 20, 2019 • 3:08:22am

Heh.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 20, 2019 • 3:16:56am

T-minus 20 minutes

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 20, 2019 • 3:31:46am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 20, 2019 • 3:37:42am

VROOM

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 20, 2019 • 3:38:27am

Max-Q
No Boom

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 20, 2019 • 3:40:09am

SRB separation

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 20, 2019 • 3:42:37am

Main engine cutoff
Stage separation
2nd stage ignition

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Dave In Austin  Dec 20, 2019 • 4:08:38am

Friday!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 20, 2019 • 4:38:36am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 20, 2019 • 4:41:07am

So, he won’t be reading “ET” again????
Silly bastard can’t keep his thoughts straight for two consecutive tweets

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 4:50:16am

re: #48 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

BREAKING: Washington state Rep. Matt Shea participated in domestic terrorism against the United States, an investigation commissioned by the Washington state House found.

If Bundy was acquitted by the courts, why should he feel compelled to back down?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 4:51:14am

re: #49 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So, he won’t be reading “ET” again????

He won’t be phoning home again, either…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 4:51:27am

re: #49 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So, he won’t be reading “ET” again????
Silly bastard can’t keep his thoughts straight for two consecutive tweets

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He’s taking impeachment so well. It’s like he was never impeached. It always goes back to numbers with him but once again more house members voted for his impeachment than anyone else. And he really can’t even pretend to act like he knows what he’s talking about.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 20, 2019 • 4:54:24am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He won’t be phoning home again, either…

Well, in Trump-world “ET” is Entertainment Tonight
And, I’m not sure etonline can use to lose any regular page views these days

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 4:54:51am

so you can choose between a Radical Left Nonbeliever who wants to take your Religion and Guns

or a Stable Genius who wants to grab your daughters by the p***y

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 4:55:28am

Everyday he proves why impeachment was warranted. He’s unfit to be President. He needs absolute loyalty because that’s how he’s run his business empire.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 4:56:32am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Everyday he proves why impeachment was warranted. He’s unfit to be President. He needs absolute loyalty because that’s how he’s run his business empire.

And he tries to run government like his business empire because he has no idea of how government works.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 20, 2019 • 4:59:23am

re: #48 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Good. Use his sorry, stupid ass as an example to the rest of these traitorous shitmuffins. I wonder if he was on the same bridge where these assholes had weapons pointed at law enforcement during that madness at the refuge. I seriously hope charges get filed ASAP. These people create a sickness based on hate, stupidity and paranoid delusions.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 5:02:06am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And he tries to run government like his business empire because he has no idea of how government works.

Precisely. Does anyone really believe Donald Trump has any understanding of how the government works? There’s a reason imo why his cabinet is full of former Congressmen. He goes with who he thinks will be the most slavishly loyal. He doesn’t see Congress as a coequal branch but rather there to do what he demands. Emphasis on demands. There’s nothing democratic about this man. His political role models are tyrants. He’s also profoundly stupid. He really has set the US back and made things easier for state and non state actors that don’t want the US leading on anything so maybe that’s why Greenwald co-signs on his bs.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 20, 2019 • 5:29:43am

so dems want at least *the chance* at a fair trial

They say the trial has to be fair, with senators acting as impartial jurors, and that Mr McConnell’s comments show he has no plans to do this. He earlier said Republican senators would act in “total co-ordination” with the president’s team.

hence the delay at least temporarily

we all know McConnell, one person, one senator of 100 singlehandedly is holding up *all* dem legislation.

now a mere 3 senator majority of 100 (the rs have 53) is controlling the entire Senate impeachment process

not the 2/3 vote. that is a different thing

the house at least has a respectable majority

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 20, 2019 • 5:42:11am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And he tries to run government like his business empire because he has no idea of how government works.

Trump’s goal is to dismantle the administrative state — and he is succeeding brilliantly, with the wholehearted collaboration of the Republican party. All part of the long-time Grover Norquist mission to make the government small enough to drown in the bathtub and Bannon’s quest to destroy everything that makes America “America”. This isn’t a reflection of Trump’s stupidity — but American stupidity as this destruction continues apace in broad daylight. We are diminished daily, shrinking into Trump’s petty personal fiefdom — and not a peep from the Republican Party.

There has been severe criticism above of Never Trumpers — and certainly most are not our friends — but many are, in fact, vehemently and vocally opposed to Trump’s love affair with Putin and other despots; they strenuously object to his actual foreign policy and not just his style.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 5:42:40am

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Precisely. Does anyone really believe Donald Trump has any understanding of how the government works?

In private business you can make everybody sign an NDA. In the government there are whistleblowers.

In private business you can fire the previous staff and replace it with your people. In the government there are career professionals and specialists who are hard to replace.

In private business you can just let everything go to hell, declare bankruptcy, pay pennies on the dollar and walk away from the smoking rubble. In diplomacy, those debts and those partners are not going to just dry up and blow away.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 20, 2019 • 5:48:35am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 5:53:36am

re: #62 Dave In Austin

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My grand uncle actually took that vow of poverty thing seriously. Frank? He’s nothing but a common prostitute for Trump and the worst elements of Christianity.

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Teukka  Dec 20, 2019 • 5:53:54am

re: #27 Dread Pirate

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:01:10am

re: #64 Teukka

I don’t think Sarasota-Brandenton Airport has drive-thru check-in…

Well, now it does.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:09:42am

Looks like Prince Philip has been taken to the hospital.

bbc.com

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:14:18am

Looks like there’s a gunman on the loose in Brno, the Czech Republic’s second-largest city. Here’s ongoing coverage, in Czech: irozhlas.cz

So far, no reports of shots fired (thankfully) but after the mass shooting incident in Ostrava last week, it’s pretty obvious the police here aren’t taking any chances.

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Kilroy was here  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:17:04am

“Once Upon Impeachment,” A Late Show Animated Christmas Classic

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:19:04am

re: #49 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:19:10am

re: #64 Teukka

That truck was on an empty tarmac going full blast towards the building. What the hell happened?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:21:38am

re: #60 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump’s goal is to dismantle the administrative state — and he is succeeding brilliantly, with the wholehearted collaboration of the Republican party. All part of the long-time Grover Norquist mission to make the government small enough to drown in the bathtub and Bannon’s quest to destroy everything that makes America “America”. This isn’t a reflection of Trump’s stupidity — but American stupidity as this destruction continues apace in broad daylight. We are diminished daily, shrinking into Trump’s petty personal fiefdom — and not a peep from the Republican Party.

There has been severe criticism above of Never Trumpers — and certainly most are not our friends — but many are, in fact, vehemently and vocally opposed to Trump’s love affair with Putin and other despots; they strenuously object to his actual foreign policy and not just his style.

BUT those same Never Trumpers agree with what Trump is doing. They want the Republican Wet Dream of killing government and replacing it with Ayn Rand’s Galt’s Gulch where anything goes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:24:29am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:29:44am

SPACE FORCE!

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jaunte  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:30:41am

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

“Everything will be so big you’ll get tired of bigging!”

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jaunte  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:35:32am
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jeffreyw  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:41:53am

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:42:48am

re: #3 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m guessing that Franklin Graham is not in any way associated with the magazine.

Graham supports the magazine.

Naw, just kidding. He attacked the magazine, claiming that it is in thrall with the liberal leftists.

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:44:20am

re: #75 jaunte

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:48:50am

re: #76 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

That’s a lot of red. Has your backyard gone Communist?

/

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:49:56am

Perfectly calm. Perfectly in control.

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:52:35am

Mark Meadows, up to his ass in Russian money, just like the rest of them.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:53:35am
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:56:12am

re: #59 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

so dems want at least *the chance* at a fair trial

hence the delay at least temporarily

we all know McConnell, one person, one senator of 100 singlehandedly is holding up *all* dem legislation.

now a mere 3 senator majority of 100 (the rs have 53) is controlling the entire Senate impeachment process

not the 2/3 vote. that is a different thing

the house at least has a respectable majority

Like I just wrote, house has a larger d majority than the r Senate does

Donald Trump has said he ‘doesn’t feel like’ he’s being impeached because the impeachment inquiry into him was ‘a hoax’. Responding to the question of how it feels to be the third president impeached by the House, Trump criticised the Democratic party saying ‘they happen to have a small majority and they took that and forced people’, adding: ‘they put the arm on everybody’.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:58:23am

You remember on Kitchen Nightmares where Gordon Ramsay would go into the Kitchen of a failing restaurant and just be shocked at how dirty and nasty and messy it is?

That’s what it will be like when the next Administration comes in behind Donald Trump and takes a look around.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 20, 2019 • 6:59:53am

Remember Crystal Mason, a 43 year old woman of color and mother of 3 who was sentenced to up to 5 years in prison for casting a provisional ballot in Texas. She did not know she was ineligible to vote because of a previous conviction for tax fraud.

Well this happened in New Hampshire

A [nice, white, elderly] couple who split their time between New Hampshire and Massachusetts pled guilty on Monday to charges that they voted in both states during the November 2016 election, but they told NHPR they only did so to avoid prolonging an already onerous court battle with the state.

… As a result of their guilty plea, the Flemings were fined $1,000 each, with a penalty assessment of $240, and lost their right to vote in New Hampshire. They were also sentenced to 60 days imprisonment, but that was suspended for one year on the condition of good behavior.

In an earlier interview shortly after the charges were announced last year, the couple told NHPR that the double voting was just an “honest mistake” — that they voted absentee in New Hampshire but forgot that they already mailed in their ballots when Election Day rolled around, and then voted again in-person in Massachusetts. …

I don’t think the Flemings should spend 5 years in prison but neither should Ms. Mason.

And the Trump-voting Mr. Fleming takes his ball and goes home.

“I’m done voting, period,” John Fleming said. “I don’t care what state it is. It’s not worth it. It’s not worth the aggravation I’ve had to deal with, the stress.”

I was assured by John Roberts racism was over in America.

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Nyet  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:00:36am

So, Lizards, I haven’t been following this as closely as the last time, so let me ask - who are your preferred candidates for 2020?

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jeffreyw  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:02:00am

re: #79 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s a lot of red. Has your backyard gone Communist?

/

They are waiting for a jay in order to honor the flag.

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Jay C  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:03:08am

re: #87 jeffreyw

They are waiting for a jay in order to honor the flag.

You rang?

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:04:49am

The reviews for Cats have been the best thing out of this entire year.

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jeffreyw  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:05:39am

re: #88 Jay C

You rang?

They’re waiting for Jay B, sorry! Have some sunflower seed!

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:05:50am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:07:11am

re: #80 The Pie Overlord!

He’s working himself up into a stroke or a heart attack.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:07:57am

re: #92 Dr Lizardo

He’s working himself up into a stroke or a heart attack.

Why is it taking so long?

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:08:19am
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William Lewis  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:08:58am

re: #86 Nyet

So, Lizards, I haven’t been following this as closely as the last time, so let me ask - who are your preferred candidates for 2020?

Warren for president and Buttigieg for VP.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:09:50am

re: #82 Joe Bacon 🌹

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I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:11:28am

re: #86 Nyet

So, Lizards, I haven’t been following this as closely as the last time, so let me ask - who are your preferred candidates for 2020?

Anyone with a D after their name

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Teukka  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:11:42am

Okay, so a rightoid posted this as “just a meme”… I don’t know if it’s legit or a fake.
Is there any way to check?

sSmGHvUDOSFZ1/leQnECewoKSaaJCdJFtd+RsR1sTTqjED/FSeBQU2ANEnyotCCh5cLj7ItHJP/JvwDb2cy8e2Yr/6KVFaaw4nfnW3DEwmPQbhSX0b4YyWvHJzR44rwmh+AnlzbxgkTRrH1X+AUYHU7Trd4vTt5YA85Sp1HPtOaT5iLJ049RLyYjMYXrzzLZUMSaVjRon2IYLPWoe8K/IUwNf7EHrUU/1fRzgYZbYCNvQEKryOAm6OcOXzbn3V9XvbRge8fWAxoTXLfK/+xI15/aTiMlNpGz8qH4hE6eruxGPPJpV/wLGKTLusifG9uxf6myvXHBwCmNZn5gFcQ6T1xs4xbf54QQn3KcJl6FXWEI0+Vlal9FK5T1l5C+hq6cvfXvQzYnpW3fPIcYID1Rjg==

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:13:44am

re: #86 Nyet

So, Lizards, I haven’t been following this as closely as the last time, so let me ask - who are your preferred candidates for 2020?

I would have to go with Warren now that Kamala Harris has dropped out, but again, I would vote for any of them, even Bernie, in a race against Trump.

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Nyet  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:14:28am

re: #98 Teukka

Aside from him still not being at the stage of writing something like this? Well, for example: has anyone credible reported on this? No. -> Fake.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:14:33am

re: #98 Teukka

Okay, so a rightoid posted this as “just a meme”… I don’t know if it’s legit or a fake.
Is there any way to check?

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Teukka  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:15:57am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Teddy's Person  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:15:58am

re: #98 Teukka

Okay, so a rightoid posted this as “just a meme”… I don’t know if it’s legit or a fake.
Is there any way to check?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:16:58am

re: #103 Teddy’s Person

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:17:45am

re: #98 Teukka

Okay, so a rightoid posted this as “just a meme”… I don’t know if it’s legit or a fake.
Is there any way to check?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:17:46am
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Jay C  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:18:08am

re: #98 Teukka

Seems and sounds hugely fake (even for Trump, or “Trump”), but I’m not sure how you distinguish the faux from the real thing.

Basically the underlying problem of the past three years.

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sagehen  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:18:24am

re: #86 Nyet

So, Lizards, I haven’t been following this as closely as the last time, so let me ask - who are your preferred candidates for 2020?

I’m liking Amy Klobuchar.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:19:26am

re: #106 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Just waiting for Fox News to say that letter is a fake…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:20:56am

re: #106 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A 7-year-old boy living with his mother in a domestic violence shelter in Texas writes heartbreaking letter to Santa asking for a “very, very, very good dad.”

I used to deliver flowers in Flagstaff, AZ, one of my regular stops was at the women’s shelter. And seeing some bruised, battered woman break down in tears at receiving flowers from the bastard who did those things to her really tested my faith in humanity…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:21:29am

re: #109 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just waiting for Fox News to say that letter is a fake…

or that his mother is a trollop who deserves it

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:21:30am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:21:54am

re: #106 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Poor kid.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:21:57am

re: #109 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just waiting for Fox News to say that letter is a fake…

Steve Doocey: Yeah, this letter is a radical lefty hoax. What kid wants a [checks notes] compass. By the way, what is a compass? Is it some device to locate the local abortion clinic?

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Nyet  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:24:13am

In 50 years: “Sorry, but Trump was a socialist, just like Hitler, he’s totally yours, lefties”.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:24:32am

re: #86 Nyet

So, Lizards, I haven’t been following this as closely as the last time, so let me ask - who are your preferred candidates for 2020?

Before they dropped out, I liked Harris, O’Rourke, and Gillibrand. Of those that remain, of the top contenders I actually like Warren and Biden the most. Of the ones that are struggling unfortunately right now I like Klobuchar, Castro, and Booker. Booker has annoyed me in the past with his past defenses of Bain Capital and I disagree with him on public education but he’s the real deal on CJ reform.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:25:43am

Pack it up folks. Prof. Kruse won the internets for today.

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:25:46am

re: #98 Teukka

There’s a Trump twitter archive you can compare against. That’s a bogus tweet.

And Trump wouldn’t know what the Hoover dam is let alone West.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:26:57am

re: #115 Nyet

In 50 years: “Sorry, but Trump was a socialist, just like Hitler, he’s totally yours, lefties”.

I seem to recall Shapiro doing that during the primaries three years ago. What he doesn’t get is that there’s a reason why fascism (the ideology I think Trump closely resembles though I think Trumpism has differences) was called “third way.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:27:59am

re: #117 Teddy’s Person

Pack it up folks. Prof. Kruse won the internets for today.

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Be a good time to see Darrell Hammond again and he’s still part of the show since he’s the announcer now. Don’t know who you get to play Andrew Johnson and Kayne though.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:28:14am

re: #94 Scottish Dragon

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The RAZZIES are coming! The RAZZIES are coming!

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Nyet  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:29:11am

The cast should totally make JCSS too, with Elba as Jesus.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:29:24am
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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:30:42am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Be a good time to see Darrell Hammond again and he’s still part of the show since he’s the announcer now. Don’t know who you get to play Andrew Johnson and Kayne though.

Michael Che as Kanye.
Mike Myers as Johnson.

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:32:01am

re: #122 Nyet

JCSS was already done once… and it was spectacular.

I can’t imagine what Hooper would do with it given the mess he made of Cats.

JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR ( Superstar - Carl Anderson - 1973 ) HD

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:32:18am

It is so hard to watch dog videos at the moment. We lost our sweet puppy yesterday. I am devastated.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:33:33am

re: #124 lawhawk

Michael Che as Kanye.
Mike Myers as Johnson.

Good casting. Man last time I saw Myers? Had to been his Inglorious Basterds cameo.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:34:12am
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Teddy's Person  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:34:17am

re: #126 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It is so hard to watch dog videos at the moment. We lost our sweet puppy yesterday. I am devastated.

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I am so sorry for your loss.

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:35:26am

re: #126 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It is so hard to watch dog videos at the moment. We lost our sweet puppy yesterday. I am devastated.

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So sorry, Jay. Losing a pet is the saddest thing. Hugs.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:35:35am

re: #123 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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It to me has always been disturbing how Trump even publicly takes Putin’s word at face value and no one in his party calls it out for how absurd it is. It’s hard to know whether Trump is that naive or he really is that heavily influenced by Putin and he’s saying it aloud that he takes Putin’s word over the IC and he’s fine with advancing Putin’s interests. One thing is for sure he definitely doesn’t know the history of that region.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:36:05am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Be a good time to see Darrell Hammond again and he’s still part of the show since he’s the announcer now. Don’t know who you get to play Andrew Johnson and Kayne though.

Dan Ackroyd for Johnson

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:36:47am

re: #86 Nyet

So, Lizards, I haven’t been following this as closely as the last time, so let me ask - who are your preferred candidates for 2020?

I always stanned for Warren. (I just love Indian jokes, tell me another! Not.)

But I like Biden.
Pissed about Kamala, because I would have chosen her, too!
There’s always a candidate whose ideas I like a lot, but who never gets traction, and that’s Castro. He was the first to discuss disability issues, and particularly SSI/SSDI which is impoverishing all of us who must rely on it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:39:36am

re: #133 Sherlock Hound

I always stanned for Warren. (I just love Indian jokes, tell me another! Not.)

But I like Biden.
Pissed about Kamala, because I would have chosen her, too!
There’s always a candidate whose ideas I like a lot, but who never gets traction, and that’s Castro. He was the first to discuss disability issues, and particularly SSI/SSDI which is impoverishing all of us who must rely on it.

I’d take Castro over Pete and what you’re getting at is exactly why. Julian offers a lot of ideas to the conversation. He also speaks for a growing constituency in the party and no one is better on the immigration issue than he is. I also like that he has executive experience as both San Antonio’s mayor and also as a cabinet secretary so he’s got a good understanding of how government works on a local and federal level. I really hope he’s vetted for VP again or given an important cabinet post.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:40:09am

re: #131 HappyWarrior

It to me has always been disturbing how Trump even publicly takes Putin’s word at face value and no one in his party calls it out for how absurd it is. It’s hard to know whether Trump is that naive or he really is that heavily influenced by Putin and he’s saying it aloud that he takes Putin’s word over the IC and he’s fine with advancing Putin’s interests. One thing is for sure he definitely doesn’t know the history of that region.

All anyone has to do is feed his ego and the rest is like throwing a bone to a starving animal.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:41:51am

re: #135 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

All anyone has to do is feed his ego and the rest is like throwing a bone to a starving animal.

Definitely and that’s dangerous. And I think it’s why dictators have found it so easily to manipulate him into doing things that are against our and our allies’ interests.

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sagehen  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:43:46am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Be a good time to see Darrell Hammond again and he’s still part of the show since he’s the announcer now. Don’t know who you get to play Andrew Johnson and Kayne though.

Peter Dinklage for Tiny Tim.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:44:39am

I just reached 5,000 karma points.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:44:55am

re: #137 sagehen

Peter Dinklage for Tiny Tim.

Who plays Bob Cratchit?

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Teddy's Person  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:45:43am

re: #139 HappyWarrior

Who plays Bob Cratchit?

Will Ferrell

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Decatur Deb  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:52:34am

At this stage of the process,”Who is your favorite?” is two different questions: “Whose presidency do you want to live under?” and “Who do you think can take down Trump?” The second question is the more important.

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Nyet  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:53:34am

re: #141 Decatur Deb

At this stage of the process,”Who is your favorite?” is two different questions: “Whose “presidency do you want to live under?” and “Who do you think can take down Trump?” The second question is the more important.

Gotta refrain from a forbidden joke…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:56:01am

re: #141 Decatur Deb

At this stage of the process,”Who is your favorite?” is two different questions: “Whose presidency do you want to live under?” and “Who do you think can take down Trump?” The second question is the more important.

See for me, I like Warren the most domestically of those left and I actually like Biden the most FP wise.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:56:04am

re: #139 HappyWarrior

Who plays Bob Cratchit?

Adam Sandler.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:56:08am

re: #142 Nyet

Gotta refrain from a forbidden joke…

Trying to recreate it, but I’m drawing a blank. It’s foggy here—the kids are accumulating for our off-cycle Christmas celebration.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:56:30am

re: #144 The Pie Overlord!

Adam Sandler.

He does have a new movie out which is supposed to be good much to my surprise.

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Interesting Times  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:56:41am

re: #141 Decatur Deb

At this stage of the process,”Who is your favorite?” is two different questions: “Whose “presidency do you want to live under?” and “Who do you think can take down Trump?” The second question is the more important.

My big worry here is that every time the Dems have tried to “play it safe” and go with “electability”, they lost (Gore, Kerry) - by close-enough-to-steal margins, but a loss nonetheless.

I don’t blame black voters at all for having no faith whatsoever in certain segments of the white electorate…but it feels to me that, if every Dem is going to be slathered with the “socialist” brush, might as well go with the real reformer.

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Teukka  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:57:13am

re: #112 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Is it just me, or are some rightoids really beginning to give of delusional “unwell” vibes to you Lizardim too?
Last night I chatted with someoneone who got triggered by the one comparing Donald to Greta and implying Greta was the adult one, and the guy quickly escalated, insinuating that there will be a Pinochet-style coup against “the libs/traitors/commies/”whateva, and I “better not choose the side of the Uruk-Hai.”
Now, the thing is, I know the ropes. I know that if the call comes, I have 72 hours to report to active duty. I know the specifics on how the order is given, and the special way it needs to be rescinded in order to be legit.
I know that in both the country where a live as well as the country whose citizen I am, there is no way the military could pull something like that off without foreign assistance.
Taking foreign assistance in order to overthrow a legitimate government is high treason in both Sweden and Finland. No concept of international law and the laws of war, poor sod doesn’t realize that he and his crew will be insta-unlawful-combattants and will be dealt with as such.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:57:38am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

He does have a new movie out which is supposed to be good much to my surprise.

The only movie I have seen of his that didn’t utterly suck was “Fifty First Dates”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:57:51am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

He does have a new movie out which is supposed to be good much to my surprise.

He has a lot of potential that he seems to consistently squander

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 7:59:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:00:05am

re: #148 Teukka

Taking foreign assistance in order to overthrow a legitimate government is high treason in both Sweden and Finland. No concept of international law and the laws of war, poor sod doesn’t realize that he and his crew will be insta-unlawful-combattants and will be dealt with as such.

Soliciting or accepting foreign assistance to meddle in an election is also high treason.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:01:25am

re: #147 Interesting Times

My big worry here is that every time the Dems have tried to “play it safe” and go with “electability”, they lost (Gore, Kerry) - by close-enough-to-steal margins, but a loss nonetheless.

I don’t blame black voters at all for having no faith whatsoever in certain segments of the white electorate…but it feels to me that, if every Dem is going to be slathered with the “socialist” brush, might as well go with the real reformer.

Our state’s primary is so early that a realistic vote for electability is impossible. Wife and I have already committed to work for our “best” choice, across the line in Florida.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:02:14am

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Good casting. Man last time I saw Myers? Had to been his Inglorious Basterds cameo.

He played a fake British Game Show Host for the Gong Show revival a couple of years back. He’s also made a few cameos as Dr. Evil including this one from SNL:

Sam Smith/Dr. Evil Cold Open - Saturday Night Live

And a couple on Jimmy Fallon in the past year or so (including one funny bit where he was pretending he had just been fired from Trumps cabinet).

There’s also supposedly a fourth Austin Powers movie coming together for a release in the next couple of years.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:04:10am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has a lot of potential that he seems to consistently squander

He’d rather make popcorn movies which is his choice but I am glad he’s expanding his range. Sometimes a comedian surprises you with that. Sacha Baron Cohen in the Netflix series about Eli Cohen for example.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:04:29am

re: #149 The Pie Overlord!

The only movie I have seen of his that didn’t utterly suck was “Fifty First Dates”

Punch Drunk Love was surprisingly good. I also enjoyed him in Reign Over Me alongside Don Cheadle.

And I’ve always had a soft spot for The Wedding Singer.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:04:38am

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

He played a fake British Game Show Host for the Gong Show revival a couple of years back. He’s also made a few cameos as Dr. Evil including this one from SNL:

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And a couple on Jimmy Fallon in the past year or so (including one funny bit where he was pretending he had just been fired from Trumps cabinet).

There’s also supposedly a fourth Austin Powers movie coming together for a release in the next couple of years.

Ah! Sweet. I loved the Austin Powers movie as a kid.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:05:52am

re: #149 The Pie Overlord!

The only movie I have seen of his that didn’t utterly suck was “Fifty First Dates”

I never saw that one but yeah his movies are mostly meh to me. I’ll give him credit though. He did see that Steve Buscemi had talent and casted him in a few of his movies in the late 90’s and early 00’s. I love Buscemi. I’ve heard great things about him as a person too. Not just the 9/11 hoerics but other things.

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:07:21am

Friday giant military cats!

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Teukka  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:07:33am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Soliciting or accepting foreign assistance to meddle in an election is also high treason.

Indeed it is.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:07:57am

re: #149 The Pie Overlord!

The only movie I have seen of his that didn’t utterly suck was “Fifty First Dates”

Hotel Transylvania is the only thing for me. Does that count?

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Decatur Deb  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:08:21am

re: #149 The Pie Overlord!

The only movie I have seen of his that didn’t utterly suck was “Fifty First Dates”

I don’t really like him or Drew Barrymore, but somewhow that movie worked well.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:09:35am

re: #161 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Hotel Transylvania is the only thing for me. Does that count?

No. That movie sucked.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:12:58am

re: #151 Scottish Dragon

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ericblair  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:14:40am

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the Captain. I’d like to wish you a HOLY FUCKING SHIT

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:19:28am

re: #165 ericblair

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Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the Captain. I’d like to wish you a HOLY FUCKING SHIT

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:19:57am

re: #165 ericblair

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Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the Captain. I’d like to wish you a HOLY FUCKING SHIT

“In just a few minutes we’ll be heading to beautiful…wait, WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:20:22am

re: #166 The Pie Overlord!

Ooof. That’ll definitely cost some Gs to repair.

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gocart mozart  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:21:12am
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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:22:15am

re: #165 ericblair

Holy shitsnacks. That’s crazy.

I was on the Legend years back for a cruise, and this just reminds me never to do another one.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:22:44am

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

Ooof. That’ll definitely cost some Gs to repair.

Ah, a little Bondo and some Turtle Wax, and it’ll look good as new.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:23:03am
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jeffreyw  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:23:26am

re: #155 HappyWarrior

He’d rather make popcorn movies which is his choice but I am glad he’s expanding his range. Sometimes a comedian surprises you with that. Sacha Baron Cohen in the Netflix series about Eli Cohen for example.

We watched that, and we were asking who is that guy, looks so damn familiar? Went to IMDB and whoa Nelly.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:23:34am

Here’s a really good piece on Joe Biden’s stuttering and how his slip ups—or “gaffes”—might sometimes be the result of internal coping strategies.

theatlantic.com

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:25:00am

Here’s a view from another angle:

Carnival cruise ships colliding, cozumel

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:26:56am

Ramming speed!!!

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:28:49am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Another view, this time from the bridge.

Perhaps Today is a Good Day to Die

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:29:16am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ramming speed!!!

Preparation for the reenactment of the Battle of Lissa is going well, I see.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:31:00am

re: #173 jeffreyw

We watched that, and we were asking who is that guy, looks so damn familiar? Went to IMDB and whoa Nelly.

I was very impressed. And not being familiar with the story heartbroken by the end. One of the better spy thrillers I’ve seen and it definitely was suspenseful.

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Jay C  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:31:34am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

Man, as big as those ships are, I’m surprised they’d even let more than one in a port at a time, still less three.

What’s the turning circle for one of those behemoths? Miles??

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:36:16am

re: #165 ericblair

HOLY IRWIN ALLEN, BATMAN!

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:37:16am

re: #181 Jay C

Depends on speed. Also, many of them have thrusters that allow them to turn in place to berth without need for tugs.

Someone definitely screwed up.

Another view from the bridge:

Starship Troopers - Klendathu Drop Scene

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:44:14am

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

Ah, a little Bondo and some Turtle Wax, and it’ll look good as new.

It’ll buff right out.

/

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Dec 20, 2019 • 8:57:55am

re: #181 Jay C

Man, as big as those ships are, I’m surprised they’d even let more than one in a port at a time, still less three.

What’s the turning circle for one of those behemoths? Miles??

There are multiple cruise ships in port in major tourist areas all the time, without collisions. I’ve seen four or more more than once. Can’t wait to see the inquiry report on this one.

Also, they were lucky as hell they just grazed her. The area they smashed was dining rooms, not likely to be very full at this time of day, but one deck lower is passenger cabins. People likely to be there at this time of day.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:06:51am

re: #181 Jay C

Man, as big as those ships are, I’m surprised they’d even let more than one in a port at a time, still less three.

What’s the turning circle for one of those behemoths? Miles??

They have thrusters, actually pretty nimble for the size. but wind and currents have a vote too. Someone gonna be Captain of a rowboat soon.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:06:53am

I’ve been in boring meetings this morning so my apologies if this has already been posted. This is an EXCELLENT thread:

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:10:25am

re: #187 Rightwingconspirator

They have thrusters, actually pretty nimble for the size. but wind and currents have a vote too. Someone gonna be Captain of a rowboat soon.

Or not. Apparently wind conditions were so bad that the harbormaster closed the port to sail and snorkeling/scuba activities. All it would take when they’re that close is one big gust or rogue wave, and smash!

(Both ships have advised their passengers to enjoy their shore day.)

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:10:53am

Boeing’s troubles continue. Their launch of a starliner to the ISS failed to achieve proper orbit.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:13:36am

Sitting in car dealership.. service

Fox is in the tv

Just a constant stream of out and out lying
They don’t even hide it
Unadulterated brazen lying

The commercials are more calming

Gah

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:18:31am

re: #188 Flying Squirrel Girl

I’ve been in boring meetings this morning so my apologies if this has already been posted. This is an EXCELLENT thread:

[Embedded content]

Lizards here may remember I insisted back in 2015 he was a fascist. Interesting that is actually being taken seriously now.

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Kilroy was here  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:19:24am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

Here’s a view from another angle:

[Embedded content]

Video

Millennium Falcon Asteroid Field Scene - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 (1080p)

Seems fitting today

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:21:44am

re: #193 Kilroy was here

Ben-Hur (10/10) Movie CLIP - Ramming Speed! (1959) HD

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:24:49am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

Here is another view from the Agememnon:

Sheridan’s Duty : Agamemnon’s Last Charge (Babylon 5)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:24:57am

re: #165 ericblair

[Embedded content]

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the Captain. I’d like to wish you a HOLY FUCKING SHIT

Think this was the first cruise ship I ever took. Glad to hear that at least no one was apparently injured, although someone may be losing their job soon.

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Danack  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:24:58am

re: #132 Teddy’s Person

Dan Ackroyd for Johnson

That’s a kind thought, but I’m kind of busy at the moment.

Maybe the actor, Dan Aykroyd, might be available though…

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Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:28:07am

re: #195 Scottish Dragon

Here is another view from the Agememnon:
[Embedded content]

Matt Tuozzo
1 year ago

James: Forward guns are down, we can’t fire!
Worf, watching show at home: Say it.
James: Particle beams coming online for the nearest platform, ready to fire!
Worf: SAY IT.
Shreidan: Target?
James: North America. It’ll wipe out most of the eastern seaboard. John, there’s no one else close enough to stop it.
Worf: SAY IT!
Sheridan: All power to engines. Give me RAMMING SPEED.
Worf: single tear

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:28:29am

But Sam Alito shook his head piously as if to say to Obama, “it’s just not true”:

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Belafon  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:32:45am

re: #190 lawhawk

Boeing’s troubles continue. Their launch of a starliner to the ISS failed to achieve proper orbit.

How many times has this happened before?

Boeing has troubles, but being the first is hard.

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:33:44am

re: #195 Scottish Dragon

BSG The Final Battle: Ramming the Colony (HD, 720p)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:39:22am

re: #190 lawhawk

Boeing’s troubles continue. Their launch of a starliner to the ISS failed to achieve proper orbit.

Are they going to blame this guy?

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Teddy's Person  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:39:57am

Trevor Noah has the perfect response to the now-deleted SHS tweets about Biden.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:43:26am
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Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:49:14am
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Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:49:53am

re: #202 Joe Bacon 🌹

Are they going to blame this guy?

[Embedded content]

[Embedded image]

Danger! Danger!

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:54:05am

Hey, look, it’s our good friends, the Saudis (as my late, lamented pal Bartcop would have said)…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:56:37am

re: #207 makeitstop

Hey, look, it’s our good friends, the Saudis (as my late, lamented pal Bartcop would have said)…

[Embedded content]

I miss Bart… 😢

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 20, 2019 • 9:59:25am

re: #205 Scottish Dragon

That is fucking epic.

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:01:22am

re: #208 Joe Bacon 🌹

I miss Bart… 😢

You and me both, Joe. He was a good egg. Taught me the finer points of tequila drinking, and I’m forever in his debt for that. :)

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nicdanger  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:04:09am

re: #208 Joe Bacon 🌹

I miss Bart… 😢

Me too…i still go thru his archives periodically .Have never ever been able to figure out his Shirley Manson thing tho. R.I.P. Bart

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:04:38am

re: #205 Scottish Dragon

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Amazing photo.

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:04:46am

Should anyone be surprised that the Malhuer NWR standoff involved a GOPer state rep running interference for the Bundy right wing domestic terrorist bunch?

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:05:09am

re: #207 makeitstop

Hey, look, it’s our good friends, the Saudis (as my late, lamented pal Bartcop would have said)…

[Embedded content]

Still exempt from Trump’s Muslim ban…. because reasons.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:05:12am

re: #210 makeitstop

You and me both, Joe. He was a good egg. Taught me the finer points of tequila drinking, and I’m forever in his debt for that. :)

I didn’t know him but I remember his site being mentioned on DU. I was on DU years ago as a teenager.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:05:45am

re: #214 lawhawk

Still exempt from Trump’s Muslim ban…. because reasons.

$$$$ and Jared and the crown prince.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:06:01am

re: #165 ericblair

[Embedded content]

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the Captain. I’d like to wish you a HOLY FUCKING SHIT

Captain, the open bar is for the passengers.

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:10:20am

re: #211 nicdanger

Me too…i still go thru his archives periodically .Have never ever been able to figure out his Shirley Manson thing tho. R.I.P. Bart

He adored Shirley. It was a constant source of amusement for Mrs. Bartcop…

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Charles Johnson  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:10:56am

Roger Simon just left PJ Media to work for these jackweasels.

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:11:52am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know him but I remember his site being mentioned on DU. I was on DU years ago as a teenager.

He was a pioneer. He was blogging for years before the term was even invented.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:12:56am
222
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:14:56am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has a lot of potential that he seems to consistently squander

Smarmy can only carry you so far. And it wears out rapidly.

223
Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:15:17am
224
Scottish Dragon  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:16:43am

re: #222 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Smarmy can only carry you so far. And it wears out rapidly.

I have managed to watch only one Adam Sandler movie from start to finish: The Longest Yard.

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nicdanger  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:16:54am

re: #218 makeitstop

Oh,yes he did adore her.I just didn’t get it. My own personal failure,I know LOL

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jaunte  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:17:54am

re: #221 The Pie Overlord!

171 Supreme Court Justices?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:19:04am

re: #211 nicdanger

Me too…i still go thru his archives periodically .Have never ever been able to figure out his Shirley Manson thing tho. R.I.P. Bart

I can’t because when I tried the tears welled up. I talked to Bart several times when he was ill and it just upset me so much that the good folks are taken away and the scum remains…

228
Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:20:46am

Oddly, Adam Sandler, Sarah Silverman, and Seth Meyers are all from the same area of New Hampshire.

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jaunte  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:21:55am

Muslim ban president* is saving religion itself.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:22:10am

re: #191 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

Sitting in car dealership.. service

Fox is in the tv

Just a constant stream of out and out lying
They don’t even hide it
Unadulterated brazen lying

The commercials are more calming

Gah

My hope when sitting in a car dealership (or doctor’s office) is the waiting area to be empty long enough for me to turn off the TV (or request that it be turned off or muted).

And non-Fox options are not any better. CNN is both-siderism or outright lies as well plus being very repetitive. Network TV is banal and brain dead stuff like “The View”* or Rachel Ray.

* - I remarked the other day that The View had a political personage on to comment after the first day of impeachment hearings… Chris Christie.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:23:31am

re: #229 jaunte

Everything is transactional with him. Everything.

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makeitstop  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:23:44am

re: #227 Joe Bacon 🌹

I can’t because when I tried the tears welled up. I talked to Bart several times when he was ill and it just upset me so much that the good folks are taken away and the scum remains…

My wife and I attended a meetup in DC with Bart. Carville, Brock, Atrios (before he even started blogging and was a mod on the BC forum), all kinds of people were there. And Bart was the ringmaster. We had such a great time that night.

Man, imagine what he’d have to say about Trump. It would be epic.

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:23:44am

re: #229 jaunte

234
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:24:00am

re: #197 Danack

That’s a kind thought, but I’m kind of busy at the moment.

Maybe the actor, Dan Aykroyd, might be available though…

My question on that is that how many people would know who Johnson was without some explanation. Roll out *NIXON* as Impeachment Past and you’d get much more recognition and also allow you to pick out someone to take all the Nixon tropes over the top a’la Nixon’s head in Futurama.

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jaunte  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:24:06am

re: #231 Flying Squirrel Girl

He’s got a lot of disloyal people to get even with.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:24:48am

re: #219 Charles Johnson

Epoch Times is nuts. Read through their site one time, and yikes.

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Interesting Times  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:26:26am

re: #229 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Muslim ban president* is saving religion itself.

Well, when you consider the evangelical dominionists want to force their theocratic, misogynistic, white-supremacy-enabling version of Christianity on everyone else, his tweet contains some truth for once - no president (with Moscow Mitch’s help, of course) has ever done so much for them.

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jaunte  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:26:36am

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

I received one of their publications in the mail a few months ago and saved it as a great example of 21st century Stalinist propaganda, subbing in Trump as the Great Leader. I’ll scan and post it if I get a chance next month.

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nicdanger  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:26:37am

re: #227 Joe Bacon 🌹

I can’t because when I tried the tears welled up. I talked to Bart several times when he was ill and it just upset me so much that the good folks are taken away and the scum remains…

Never spoke with him but we emailed back and forth several times over the years.He was definitely one of a kind.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:26:40am

re: #214 lawhawk

Still exempt from Trump’s Muslim ban…. because reasons.

Do those reasons involve pieces of cloth with “$” on them?

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lawhawk  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:27:29am

re: #240 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Think they’re doing these things in bitcoin. /

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:28:05am

re: #229 jaunte

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sagehen  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:29:05am

re: #230 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And non-Fox options are not any better. CNN is both-siderism or outright lies as well plus being very repetitive. Network TV is banal and brain dead stuff like “The View”* or Rachel Ray.

Animal Planet? Weather Channel? National Geographic? QVC? Cartoon Network?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:30:06am

re: #224 Scottish Dragon

I have managed to watch only one Adam Sandler movie from start to finish: The Longest Yard.

You obviously were not comparing it to the Bert Reynolds version, were you.

The Sandler version was what cemented my view that movies had completely subverted the concept of fair third party officiating (referees) in the period between when those movies were made.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:30:53am

re: #229 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Muslim ban president* is saving religion itself.

Not even President Christ has done more than me!

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William Lewis  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:31:13am

re: #224 Scottish Dragon

I have managed to watch only one Adam Sandler movie from start to finish: The Longest Yard.

That’s the only one I finished as well. The others carried him along to the point where they actually told a story.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:31:27am

Also, it seems Christianity Today is irrelevant in the same way this website is irrelevant.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:33:48am

re: #243 sagehen

Animal Planet? Weather Channel? National Geographic? QVC? Cartoon Network?

Have never seen an office use any of those options. Excepting Wegman’s in a children’s section of their open dining area has some cartoon thing on there and usually ESPN in the main area.

Most ironic was being in a doctor’s office that had some paid real estate commercial thing going that was displaying and pushing nice beach front or near beach front properties in Bermuda. And this was showing right after that hurricane sat there and pounded the island.

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nicdanger  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:33:58am

re: #232 makeitstop

My wife and I attended a meetup in DC with Bart. Carville, Brock, Atrios (before he even started blogging and was a mod on the BC forum), all kinds of people were there. And Bart was the ringmaster. We had such a great time that night.

Man, imagine what he’d have to say about Trump. It would be epic.

I didn’t attend that,but read all about it on his site. Loved his page header”A Modem - A Smart Mouth - and the Truth!”…I first ran into Digby and Tbogg there,as they posted on his forum also.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:37:19am

re: #230 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

My hope when sitting in a car dealership (or doctor’s office) is the waiting area to be empty long enough for me to turn off the TV (or request that it be turned off or muted).

And non-Fox options are not any better. CNN is both-siderism or outright lies as well plus being very repetitive. Network TV is banal and brain dead stuff like “The View”* or Rachel Ray.

* - I remarked the other day that The View had a political personage on to comment after the first day of impeachment hearings… Chris Christie.

The Weather Channel it is then

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:38:11am

re: #250 Eventual Carrion

The Weather Channel it is then

Preferably muted.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:39:38am

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

Epoch Times is nuts. Read through their site one time, and yikes.

It’s odd that it’s connected to a quasi-religion started in China, that was kicked out when it was seen as a threat to the authoritarian regime. Seems odd that they’d back Trump. But there you go.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 20, 2019 • 10:46:05am

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

Epoch Times is nuts. Read through their site one time, and yikes.

Both sides deny it, but the Epoch empire is Falun Gong. They’re not Moonie-quality bullshitters, but they’re trying.


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