Sufjan Stevens, “Christmas Unicorn”

“It’s all right, I love you”
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A surreal parable for a 21st century Christmas.

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From Sufjan Stevens’ “Silver & Gold” Christmas Unicorn: Songs for Christmas, Vol. 10

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1
nowherenorth2  Dec 25, 2019 • 7:12:06am

I just want to say happy holidays to all on here and for being awesome and helping me with political discussions and also being a voice of sanity in an insane and ridiculous world gone upside down.

Thank you Charles and thank you everybody

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jeffreyw  Dec 25, 2019 • 7:16:19am

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 7:24:52am
4
Rightwingconspirator  Dec 25, 2019 • 7:25:01am

Merry Christmas to all who celebrate, most especially my friends here. Charles thanks once again for hosting this kind oasis.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 7:29:16am

He came across the Canadian border. Did they check his sleigh bags for weed?

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 25, 2019 • 7:31:08am

re: #5 The Pie Overlord!

Santa has been TSA prescreened.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2019 • 7:33:05am

To my lizard family,

Here’s wishing everyone a very Happy Hanukkah, a joyously Merry Christmas, and the best of everything the New Year could possibly bring!

Much love to my friends (and lurkers).

MsJ

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Dec 25, 2019 • 7:38:45am

re: #47 A Mom Anon

Left hanging on the previous thread.

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m sorry to hear of your family difficulties. It really stinks when Christian family members disown you (and their grandchild) because of your own lack of belief.

I hope your hub is doing okay over his brother’s condition.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 25, 2019 • 7:49:43am

My publisher is going a book giveaway on Goodreads.

goodreads.com

good luck.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 7:55:32am

Yeah, nope. He’s not MOAR JEWIE than Soros!

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calochortus  Dec 25, 2019 • 7:59:37am

Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it, although if you celebrate it, the odds are good you’re doing it right now.
We had our lovely traditional Xmas Eve dinner last night. After a lot of to-ing and fro-ing about who would be able to make it, everything settled out, almost all the invitees came and we had a lovely evening. The 5 month old granddaughter (who is incredibly sensitive and easily overwhelmed) even behaved herself and let various members of her adoring public hold her.
This afternoon the immediate family goes over to my daughter’s for the gift opening, such as it is. A few items like books or socks and assorted charitable contributions. Tea, some soup later-very relaxed.

Thanks to Charles and to all the Lizard family for the community here.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:07:31am

Church is starting across the street.

I’m going to go log off and go back to bed.

Have a happy holiday.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:10:59am

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹🎃

You should go over and sit and listen. All are welcome.

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:11:17am

TOMMY CASH - SDUBID (Official Video)

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Dave In Austin  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:11:42am
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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:12:50am

re: #14 Nyet

Heyas! Where you been? Making trouble me hopes.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:14:08am

re: #14 Nyet

It is good to see you in the room again. And have a very happy holiday. :)

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A Mom Anon  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:17:24am

I wanted to thank our host, Charles and any help he may have running this wonderful place. It’s pretty rare at this point to find an online community that’s not full of shit, and this place is totally the opposite of most online community experiences. I sometimes don’t respond much or disappear from the conversation, but it’s mostly because I don’t feel I have much to add and so I read and try to learn. Sometimes this place is too fast for me, but there’s always a place to jump in and begin again. That’s a cool thing. And rare.

And to the rest of you, just thanks. For making me think, laugh, learn and figure some things out. I hope the coming year is better than this one for all of us. Love ❤️ you all.

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:19:33am

If you make puns of onions, they’re punions.

I’m not asking. I’m telling you. It’s a rule so don’t ask.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:19:37am

re: #18 A Mom Anon

You are not the only one. I am not a fast typist and sometimes I have trouble keeping up.

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thecommodore  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:20:50am

Merry Christmas Lizards!

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:21:02am

re: #19 BigPapa

If you make puns of onions, they’re punions.

I’m not asking. I’m telling you. It’s a rule so don’t ask.

What if you’re making buns with onions?

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calochortus  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:21:36am

re: #18 A Mom Anon

I’m hoping you (and everyone here) will have a better year, too.

I know what you mean about not posting a lot. There are times I have nothing to add, or just have a few minutes and hate to post and run, but I do read here every day and it helps me keep up.
Even if you don’t post a lot LGF is a better place having you here.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:23:18am

Pulls blanket back over head……
Let me know when tomorrow is here…….

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calochortus  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:25:47am

re: #24 Dave In Austin

Pulls blanket back over head……
Let me know when tomorrow is here…….

How can we let you know if you have your blanket over your head?

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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:26:55am

re: #18 A Mom Anon

I wanted to thank our host, Charles and any help he may have running this wonderful place. It’s pretty rare at this point to find an online community that’s not full of shit, and this place is totally the opposite of most online community experiences. I sometimes don’t respond much or disappear from the conversation, but it’s mostly because I don’t feel I have much to add and so I read and try to learn. Sometimes this place is too fast for me, but there’s always a place to jump in and begin again. That’s a cool thing. And rare.

And to the rest of you, just thanks. For making me think, laugh, learn and figure some things out. I hope the coming year is better than this one for all of us. Love ❤️ you all.

What a nice thing to log into!

Sometimes, the less I’m around, the more important my visits are. You can speak for me anytime.

[is gramma anon still running?]

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:28:44am

re: #22 Nyet

What if you’re making buns with onions?

Then your feet will have funions

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jaunte  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:31:09am

re: #27 BigPapa

When they run with the grunions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:32:10am

re: #15 Dave In Austin

Basically, it is much the same as with a three-year-old: if you let yourself get drawn into an argument in the first place, you have already lost.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:34:34am

To all who celebrate these holidays: a Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah.

And wishing everyone a happy 2020, full of love, good health, and good friends — and, hopefully, Trump-free before it finishes!

And thank you Charles for providing us a sane refuge from the madness that seems to afflict much of this world.

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jaunte  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:35:09am

re: #15 Dave In Austin

The Parscale guide to winning an argument is simply to make a lot of unsupported assertions like “Trump’s tax cuts have improved the economy.”

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:35:37am

re: #19 BigPapa

If you make puns of onions, they’re punions.

I’m not asking. I’m telling you. It’s a rule so don’t ask.

I spilled some vinegar in my ear and had pickled hearing for a while

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:36:39am

re: #20 PhillyPretzel

You are not the only one. I am not a fast typist and sometimes I have trouble keeping up.

I am neither slow nor fast. I’m halffast

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calochortus  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:36:46am

re: #31 jaunte

Thanks for reading it so I don’t have to.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:37:23am

re: #13 Shropshire Slasher

You should go over and sit and listen. All are welcome.

I’ll pass, thanks.

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calochortus  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:38:25am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’ll pass, thanks.

In your town, you’d probably never hear the end of it if you went.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:39:29am

Yesterday, mrs dms aunt gave her Bennet cerf’s treasury of atrocious puns
From 1968

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:40:04am

re: #36 calochortus

In your town, you’d probably never hear the end of it if you went.

I’ve only been in the church two times.

One, to run off a robber with my shotgun in the middle of the night.
Two, for a flu shot when they held a shot clinic there.

The members of the church are the people who voted in a Nazi on our village board because having an atheist on it was a bridge too far.

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jaunte  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:40:23am

re: #34 calochortus

It’s the usual Bizarro world list of untrue factoids.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:42:17am

re: #18 A Mom Anon

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:42:18am

Annnd
The pun also rises by John Pollack

It’s gonna be brutal around here for a while

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:43:37am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Good to see you!

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:44:03am

re: #39 jaunte

It’s the usual Bizarro world list of untrue factoids bullshit.

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:49:31am

re: #13 Shropshire Slasher

Been there, done that. Pass.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:51:04am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🎃

You said you needed to talk to someone. There is a whole congregation of people to talk to. What you seek you won’t find online. The only person you are hurting is yourself.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:52:41am

EDIT: Put behind spoiler tags to not ruin anyone’s Christmas.

Click to Reveal
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:53:31am

re: #44 Nyet

Nonetheless, happy holidays to one and all.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:54:56am

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No arguments here. It’s basically an unruly child in the house where there are no children.

I don’t like kids.

Go ahead and bash me for it. But I didn’t have children for a reason.
I’ve put on the act for as long as I can and I’m almost to the point of heading to the creek with a bag o weed to spend the rest of the day in sweet sweet isolation.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:55:39am

re: #47 The Pie Overlord!

Actually it’s pretty on brand for that awful bastard.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:55:51am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:57:32am

re: #46 Shropshire Slasher

You said you needed to talk to someone. There is a whole congregation of people to talk to. What you seek you won’t find online. The only person you are hurting is yourself.

I don’t need a religious pitch.

Most of my family has disowned me years ago because I don’t accept their religious assertions.

Grief is not equal to religion.

As for chatting on-line, no amount of chatting with anyone is going to assuage my mother’s, sister’s, or my grief. (Those folks across the street? They think my sister deserves hell for her having “Teh Geyh lifestyle” and my mother and me for being atheists. I hear enough about that other times, I’ll pass on that now.)

Catch y’all some other time. Enjoy the holiday.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:57:52am
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Teukka  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:57:52am

re: #44 Nyet

[Embedded content]

Death To The World (with lyrics)

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BlueSpotinAL  Dec 25, 2019 • 8:58:27am

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Basically, it is much the same as with a three-year-old: if you let yourself get drawn into an argument in the first place, you have already lost.

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag discussion down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:00:09am

re: #53 The Pie Overlord!

Obama is 100 times the human being Trump will ever be.

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jaunte  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:00:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:01:59am

re: #55 BlueSpotinAL

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag discussion down to their level and beat you with experience.

beyond that, we are dealing with people who would rather “win” an argument by any means available than to establish facts, solve a problem or arrive at a rational conclusion

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:02:05am

re: #57 jaunte

Well said. And a very happy holiday to Greta and her family.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:02:42am

re: #56 Eclectic Cyborg

Obama is 100 times the human being Trump will ever be.

he 100% mensch vs 110% putz

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:05:04am

Good morning all.

Received very sad news last night that my dear friend songwriter Allee Willis passed away yesterday. That really got to me because I chatted a bit with her on Facebook Monday night. Allee was a one of a kind dynamo. RIP dear friend!

And we had the gang of idiots here firing off M80s, shooting fireworks and firing their AKs until 2AM. Police, Fire Department and Paramedic sirens kept going off in Koreatown.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:06:20am

I was confined to my bed for a couple of days (viruses suck), but I now feel that it might be worth it to stay alive a bit longer, so…

(Belatedly) {{{{Anymouse}}}} and {{{{AMomAnon}}}}

And, whether it’s Christmas or Hanukkah, Festivus, or Wholly Humbug, I hope you all have a good one.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:08:57am
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calochortus  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:09:03am

I wonder if Trump’s mental decline can be tracked by observing his use of makeup. On average it seems to be getting darker and darker, with poorer blending (as in none at all) on the sides. At times it is approaching some sort of ritual mask look.
His followers seem to be OK with this, though.

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calochortus  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:09:33am

re: #61 Joe Bacon 🌹

Good morning all.

Received very sad news last night that my dear friend songwriter Allee Willis passed away yesterday. That really got to me because I chatted a bit with her on Facebook Monday night. Allee was a one of a kind dynamo. RIP dear friend!

And we had the gang of idiots here firing off M80s, shooting fireworks and firing their AKs until 2AM. Police, Fire Department and Paramedic sirens kept going off in Koreatown.

{{{Joe Bacon}}}

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:10:03am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:14:45am
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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:14:49am

Just heard an interview with Eric Idle on NPR (ostensibly about his book, Always Look on the Bright Side of Life) and learned two things: 1) he was a dear friend of Robin Williams, gave a number of anecdotes, but also said that Lewy body dementia was the cause of his depression and suicide (my husband died of this) and 2) he gave a passionate “hate” on Brexit, saying it was caused by big corporate media that weren’t even British (hello Murdoch) and that it was going to ruin England.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:16:51am

re: #68 retired cynic

Just heard an interview with Eric Idle …he gave a passionate “hate” on Brexit, saying it was caused by big corporate media that weren’t even British (hello Murdoch) and that it was going to ruin England.

The odd thing is that a lot of people know that but are too stiffly upper-lipped to admit it or do anything about it.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:16:58am

re: #46 Shropshire Slasher

Yeah, genius. In case you haven’t been reading LGF for the past several years (which you HAVE been doing), you would know that Anymouse’s local congregations are populated almost exclusively by horrible people that actively hate him.

So yeah, going to that church probably won’t help with grief issues…but you knew that, didn’t you?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:17:19am

re: #63 Dave In Austin

[Embedded content]

Send some “love” to Paul Gosar this Christmas since his whole family deservedly hates every last subatomic particle in his totally corrupted body!

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:18:44am

/re: #64 calochortus

His makeup person quit and he’s doing it himself. Horribly.

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:19:06am

Is it weird to name your boneless leg of lamb roast? Asking for a friend, who wants to call it Seymour.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:19:35am

re: #70 Sufficient unto the day…

Yeah, genius. In case you haven’t been reading LGF for the past several years (which you HAVE been doing), you would know that Anymouse’s local congregations are populated almost exclusively by horrible people that actively hate him.

So yeah, going to that church probably won’t help with grief issues…but you knew that, didn’t you?

SS gets a kick out of that which is why down dings are encouraged…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:19:58am

re: #72 BigPapa

/

His makeup person quit and he’s doing it himself. Horribly.

and he is doing it to the standards that please himself, totally immune to any constructive comments on how to do it…

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:20:24am

re: #70 Sufficient unto the day…

I have been enjoying Anymouse’s posts for many years now. I miss reading him in the morning.

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calochortus  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:20:45am

re: #72 BigPapa

I thought he always did it himself? Might just be cataracts or other poor eyesight issues, but either no one who sees him before he goes out looking like that likes him enough to mention it, or he thinks he’s doing a great job and doesn’t want to hear criticism.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:21:35am

re: #72 BigPapa

/

His makeup person quit and he’s doing it himself. Horribly.

I’m just waiting for Trump to go full Queen Elizabeth with the white makeup…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:21:53am

re: #77 calochortus

I thought he always did it himself? Might just be cataracts or other poor eyesight issues, but either no one who sees him before he goes out looking like that likes him enough to mention it, or he thinks he’s doing a great job and doesn’t want to hear criticism.

He lets nobody proofread his tweets, so it is most likely he lets nobody apply his orange glop.

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calochortus  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:22:12am

re: #78 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m just waiting for Trump to go full Queen Elizabeth clown with the white makeup…

Fixed.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:23:29am

If Trump does the clown makeup thing may Emmett Kelly rise from his grave and kick him in the YOU KNOW WHERE!

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:24:00am

So, do you think Watchmen is watchable? I’ve watched the first ep and I don’t know if I’m convinced, but maybe it gets better?

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:24:34am

re: #73 BigPapa

Is it weird to name your boneless leg of lamb roast? Asking for a friend, who wants to call it Seymour.

Don’t name your food.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:27:14am

Russian Bot Account Of The Day

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calochortus  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:28:56am

re: #83 The Pie Overlord!

Don’t name your food.

Always good advice.

Time for me to finish straightening up after last night’s dinner, and then off to daughter’s house.
Have a wonderful day, all.

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:29:08am

So this scrolled by in my Facebook feed:

Yep. It’s a bona fide Gingerbread Crack House
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:30:54am

re: #83 The Pie Overlord!

Don’t name your food.

HA! My grandfather (bless his soul) always named the two calves he raised each year until he passed. The last two were Rib Eye and Porter House.

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Jay C  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:31:20am

Happy Holiday greetings to all Lizards!
(well, those logged on, anyway!)

Hope your end-of-year days are going well - better than mine, at any rate* - and that 2020 will follow through on the hope of improvement New Years always promise.

Found an interesting link vis dKos this morning: Adam Serwer in The Atlantic on scholarly critique of the New York Times’ 1619 Project.

It’s an interesting piece: not least in the fact it reveals that even professional “critics” of 1619 can’t really find substantive fault with the fundamentals of it: it’s just (IMO, anyway) more of the usual usual when it comes to race relations in this country: the old “history” vs. “ideology” critique: which almost invariable surfaces when anything dealing with race (and more generally, anything that deals with American History in anything other than simplistic rah-rah positivism) comes up in public discussion.

However the really depressing bit was a piece by Allen Guelzo in City Journal that Serwer linked as a point of “conservative rebuttal” (the other two links were to derisive comments by Newt Gingrich and Erick Erickson, so I ignored those) to the 1619 Project. It wasn’t so much the piece itself’s trite dismissiveness of 1619 as a sinister liberal “conspiracy theory” - which seems pretty much like standard RW “analysis” these days (i.e. viciously dumping on the source of criticism while ignoring any actual points which might be made) - but the comments section was the real cesspool. RTWT.

*

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:35:19am

re: #53 The Pie Overlord!

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Compare and contrast #47
Sigh

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:36:06am

Team America: World Police (6/10) Movie CLIP - I’m So Ronery (2004) HD

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:36:32am

re: #55 BlueSpotinAL

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag discussion down to their level and beat you with experience.

The word “Idiot” is pronounced crackpot
Act accordingly

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:36:32am

re: #47 The Pie Overlord!

EDIT: Put behind spoiler tags to not ruin anyone’s Christmas.

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The face that deserves to be whacked with an endless supply of custard pies!

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:37:50am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

beyond that, we are dealing with people who would rather “win” an argument by any means available than to establish facts, solve a problem or arrive at a rational conclusion

Getting an x in the win column is more important than how

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Dave In Austin  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:38:06am

Isn’t LiL’ Kim supposed to do something today?

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:40:11am

re: #94 Dave In Austin

I don’t follow wrappers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:40:16am

re: #93 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

Getting an x in the win column is more important than how

I gave up on a buddy who just trotted out lame talking points in the hopes that he would finally find one that I knew was not made up

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:40:19am

re: #94 Dave In Austin

Isn’t LiL’ Kim supposed to do something today?

Oh the day ain’t over yet…

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:40:41am

re: #83 The Pie Overlord!

Don’t name your food.

Oh no, I would never do that. My friend wanted to name his meat Seymour so after it got eated he would name it See Less.

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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:40:44am

re: #94 Dave In Austin

Isn’t LiL’ Kim supposed to do something today?

Maybe there was a Santa Claus interception.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:44:20am
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:44:23am

re: #87 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

HA! My grandfather (bless his soul) always named the two calves he raised each year until he passed. The last two were Rib Eye and Porter House.

Rare and medium?

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jaunte  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:46:33am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:48:28am

re: #84 The Pie Overlord!

Russian Bot Account Of The Day

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This is going to end badly. I mean Reign of Terror/guillotine badly.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:50:17am

re: #101 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

Rare and medium?

Not that I recall. He usually named them after different cuts. Drove my little sister nuts as she always wanted to make pets out of them when they were little.

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:51:28am

Deep into Part II of the Mueller Report focusing on Obstruction. Feeling like he really fucked up here: there is so much evidence and so many instances of Trump’s guilt I’m still amazed he ended up where it did. Trump is guilty AF of Obstruction and I’m not sure why the House didn’t write Articles up for it.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:51:42am

re: #94 Dave In Austin

Isn’t LiL’ Kim supposed to do something today?

Yes but he’s as big a bullshitter as trump

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:51:49am

Weirdness for today (since I’m home with a sore throat):

We watched 15 straight hours of ‘Little Women,’ and things got weird WaPo

I had no idea there had been so many versions of Little Women. Should not have been surprised!

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Sufficient unto the day...  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:52:34am

re: #76 Shropshire Slasher

You’re not even as good a liar as Trump.

And frankly, I think what you said in #46 indicates that this place isn’t a good fit for you.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:54:52am

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is going to end badly. I mean Reign of Terror/guillotine badly.

The QAnon nutburgers are straight-up cultists. So more than likely, it’ll end up like Jonestown.

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:57:33am

re: #108 Sufficient unto the day…

What am I lying about? The fact that Anymouse is estranged from his son an has no support system where he lives? Merry Christmas.

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Teukka  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:57:48am

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is going to end badly. I mean Reign of Terror/guillotine badly.

If we’re lucky…

re: #109 Dr Lizardo

The QAnon nutburgers are straight-up cultists. So more than likely, it’ll end up like Jonestown.

Or Aum Shinrikyo / Aleph…

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:59:25am

re: #52 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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Jay C  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:59:54am

re: #90 The Pie Overlord!

Wait, wut?

Those close to the president say he has no one close to him.

?

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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:00:00am

re: #107 retired cynic

Weirdness for today (since I’m home with a sore throat):

We watched 15 straight hours of ‘Little Women,’ and things got weird WaPo

I had no idea there had been so many versions of Little Women. Should not have been surprised!

I have a sore throat, too! It’s mild, I hope yours goes away, but I get to be like you, in a tiny way, for a short time!

I don’t have a home. Actually, I do. We move in tomorrow. My thoughts go to those who are still without. Such a growing population.

{{{retired cynic}}}

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:01:52am

re: #109 Dr Lizardo

The QAnon nutburgers are straight-up cultists. So more than likely, it’ll end up like Jonestown.

That’s probably the best outcome, provided of course that they somehow leave the kids out of it.

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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:04:33am

re: #115 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That’s probably the best outcome, provided of course that they somehow leave the kids out of it.

It’s always ‘wimmin ‘n’ children first’.

And now I will retire my cynicism.

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mmmirele  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:05:34am

I’m going off to my mother’s in a bit to eat tamales with her and my brother, smothered in his special queso sauce. It doesn’t feel like Christmas in south central Arizona. It’s raining on and off and I have my heater going (not just for the heat but for the damp). I’ll probably talk to my sister by phone while I’m over there—the one time of the year we talk. This year she fell down the QAnon rathole but thankfully my brother did not!

Overall, it was a good year for me. I got out of a job that was mentally like having a steel trap around my ankle into one that really has its moments, but it pays better.

clbrytIt/dpjYeD5G0f9rdnJ3FogH/3U8fsypZGRbP3Ah6szMQnzi3Xyeuf/ccRKUK+1dLuA8Pbn7TpUw7iWydSr0NRMo5QTBBlo4b62iVEIo3FswEeYgdOKMWn3DfMhqg5uOtULtR9Cn4ctUIYlcEnO3wBegzuY9fnP83ME+ar6yUBjrohPpBOVDuc/a0mjYQrZAxw6SdX5gO+LAx/+h7t9TkF7ENsi

I got to go to Japan again, and the thoughts and pictures I have from that experience make me happy on days when things are just weird. I want to go back next May and visit Tokyo, if possible.

(This picture was taken at a famous garden in Okayama that’s been around since the 17th century and entered its final form about 140 years ago.)

Happy Holidays / Merry Christmas / Happy Hanukkah / Happy Yule / Happy Kwanzaa!

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:05:40am

re: #113 Jay C

Wait, wut?

?

For different values of “close.”

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:06:58am

re: #110 Shropshire Slasher

What am I lying about? The fact that Anymouse is estranged from his son an has no support system where he lives? Merry Christmas.

You are being deliberately cruel and provocative in a person’s time of grief in an ostentatious show of false compassion.

I’ll pray for you.*

*See what I did there? It’s the same type of thing you’re doing to ‘Mouse. Of course I’m not going to pray for you; I’m not a believer, but in doing what I did above, I get to posture passive-aggressively while cloaking myself in false piety.

We all can see what you’re doing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:07:47am

re: #113 Jay C

Wait, wut?

?

I believe the full quote was “He has no one close to him to confide in.”

In other words, he has people close to him but be doesn’t trust any of them.

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makeitstop  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:08:35am

Olear offers up a Christmas song thread.

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wrenchwench  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:10:27am

re: #119 A Three Hour Tour

You are being deliberately cruel and provocative in a person’s time of grief in an ostentatious show of false compassion.

I’ll pray for you.*

*See what I did there? It’s the same type of thing you’re doing to ‘Mouse. Of course I’m not going to pray for you; I’m not a believer, but in doing what I did above, I get to posture passive-aggressively while cloaking myself in false piety.

We all can see what you’re doing.

Sometimes I think he means well, sometimes I think he’s mean. But he may not mean to be mean….

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:11:36am

re: #122 wrenchwench

Sometimes I think he means well, sometimes I think he’s mean. But he may not mean to be mean….

Yeah, but the dissembling thing raises my spidey senses. For the most part I pass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:11:39am

“she was disturbed”

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:12:36am

re: #122 wrenchwench

There are some people like my kid sister who take genuine pleasure in ticking other people off. That is how they get their “kicks.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:12:58am

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

I believe the full quote was “No one close to him to confide in.”

In other words, he has people close to him but be doesn’t trust any of them.

His problem is that Putin has been leaning on him for more deliverables and Trump realizes that even his biggest toadies might find that a step too far if he actually confided in them. He never thought he was going to get elected and this experience has proved to be not as much fun as he thought.

(And no sarc tags because I’m not sure it’s sarcasm)

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:13:34am

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

I believe the full quote was “He has no one close to him to confide in.”

In other words, he has people close to him but be doesn’t trust any of them.

Paranoia and narcissism will do that
Then again no one with two brain cells should trust him

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Teddy's Person  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:14:29am

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

“she was disturbed”

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Until their concern actually influences their votes, the Senate Concern Caucus can fuck right off.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:21:09am

re: #61 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m so sorry for your loss. I hope you find peace and good memories to hold close to your heart.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:23:35am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:24:14am
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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:25:32am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:26:08am

were: #122 wrenchwench

Sometimes I think he means well, sometimes I think he’s mean. But he may not mean to be mean….

Many years ago, a colleague made a very hurtful, cruel comment that he thought was funny — and I never forgave him for it. We had had a good relationship until then but I could not get past his remarks. He was not a malicious person, just a jerk.

But one hard lesson learned throughout the years is people can hurt others, not through deliberate cruelty, but through thoughtlessness —- with no intention to harm. I lost a friend because in her hour of need, I failed to respond with immediate understanding (in that case, she called on my cell when I was at a brunch with other friends and I didn’t really want to talk). I repeatedly made efforts to repair our friendship — but she never reciprocated. So we all fail but hopefully we learn from these experiences and try to become better people.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:26:10am

re: #131 Charles Johnson

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Conservatives make everything political and then complain when we don’t want to hang out with them.

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TedStriker  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:26:30am

re: #131 Charles Johnson

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For people that rail against a supposed “War on Christmas”, they have no compunctions about shitting in the holiday punch bowl and conducting an ideological war of their own against their family and friends…on Christmas.

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:30:24am

National Security
In aftermath of Ukraine crisis, a climate of mistrust and threats
By Greg Miller and Greg Jaffe WaPo

This is a long read about the deconstruction of the administrative state, as Steve Bannon called for. What has happened to people who “stand in DT’s path” is awful.

… Veterans of the Foreign Service are bewildered. “These attacks — I’ve not seen anything like this since I joined the Foreign Service,” said John Heffern, a former senior State Department official who entered the department when Ronald Reagan was president. “Our work is promoting international universal values — freedom of the press and rule of law. Considering what’s happened in the United States, it undermines our ability to project that message to our foreign counterparts.” …

Fiona Hill, the former top Russia adviser at the White House, has endured obscene phone calls to her home phone, according to people familiar with the matter, and vicious assaults from far-right media. Alex Jones, the conspiracy monger who operates the Infowars website, devoted much of his Nov. 22 broadcast to smears against Hill. “I want her ass indicted,” Jones said. “I want her indicted for perjury. Today. Indict that whore.” …

“My entire first year of my tenure at the National Security Council was filled with hateful calls, conspiracy theories, which has started again” amid impeachment, she testified in October. For months, Hill arrived at work nearly each day to find venomous messages left on her work phone by a caller from Florida. The same woman called Hill at home several times, frightening her young daughter, according to two people familiar with the matter. …

Among the first to confront Hill when she joined the White House that year was Derek Harvey, who went to the NSC after working for Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) on the House Intelligence Committee. On one of Hill’s first days on the job, Harvey told her he could not understand why Trump had allowed her into the fold, according to officials who witnessed the exchange. …

For decades, the GOP cast itself as the champion of the FBI, CIA, Pentagon and other national security institutions. But over the past three years, Republicans have repeatedly turned on those agencies when necessary to protect Trump’s presidency.
In their final report on the impeachment hearings, Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee focused on “unelected bureaucrats” as the true villains of the impeachment scandal. These officials made “accusations and assumptions” about the president, were “discomforted at Trump’s call,” and they “chafed at the president’s outside the beltway approach to diplomacy.”

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:32:21am

re: #135 TedStriker

For people that rail against a supposed “War on Christmas”, they have no compunctions about shitting in the holiday punch bowl and conducting an ideological war of their own against their family and friends…on Christmas.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:33:10am
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makeitstop  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:33:28am

Gwar, anyone?

GWAR Sings Christmas Carols

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:33:33am

Google is winning the War on Christmas with their “Happy Holidays” doodle.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:33:38am

Imported direct from Japan, these are Hanafuda cards. These were the original product Nintendo made when they began as a company in the late 1800s. They still make them today.

The cards are great quality but since they are an import all the directions are in Japanese so I’ll have to hunt down some English language instructions.

Pretty cool item to add to my collection regardless.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:38:19am

4 lb ball of love camped out in my lap.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:38:41am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:50:47am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:53:36am

I love me some @RockyMntnMike

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jaunte  Dec 25, 2019 • 10:57:25am

Earth, Wind & Fire - December (Official Video)

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:00:36am

re: #144 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

How did Die Hard not make the list.

Probably because of insufficient revenue. It grossed only about 141 million. It gained its following through television viewing rather than the original theatrical release.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:01:00am

To be honest, Christmas has been kind of rough for me since my mom died.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:01:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:01:44am

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

Probably because of insufficient revenue. [Die Hard] grossed only about 141 million. It gained its following through television viewing rather than the original theatrical release.

My nephew seems to be a member of the cult, must admit that I have never seen it or any of the sequels…

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Cheechako  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:02:23am

Anymouse - I checked and saw that you’re not signed in right now. I do hope you sign in later and see this article:

Dealing with grief during the holidays

I know the grief you and your family are going through. My Grandfather had a massive stroke while shaving on Christmas morning. He died a few days later. This happened over 40 years ago and I still have the memory every Christmas. Every year its gotten a little better. I focus more on the good memories than on that horrible day.

It takes time. An awful lot of time.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:03:55am

re: #151 Cheechako

Yes. It does take time. And everyone one of us has their own way of dealing with grief.

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:05:26am

re: #151 Cheechako

As I said a thread or two ago, my great grandmother, who was a real light of my early life, died on Christmas morning. As a child, I accepted things, but as I have gotten older, and older!, it looms larger in my makeup. It is good to be “home alone” and relax into my memories.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:05:35am

re: #125 PhillyPretzel

There are some people like my kid sister who take genuine pleasure in ticking other people off. That is how they get their “kicks.”

I have family members who delight in doing that in the name of Jesus…

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Jay C  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:07:16am

re: #144 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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How did Die Hard not make the list.

Just a guess, but that list seems not to be a list of “Christmas movies” by theme, per se: it’s more likely a rundown of highest-grossing Christmas-time releases. Some of which, of course, have Christmas-related plots.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:07:24am

re: #32 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

I spilled some vinegar in my ear and had pickled hearing for a while

And ear you are, waxing nostalgic.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:08:28am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My nephew seems to be a member of the cult, must admit that I have never seen it or any of the sequels…

Die Hard and Live Free or Die Hard are must see flicks. If you’re an action movie aficionado, both are pretty epic.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:12:02am

re: #157 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Die Hard and Live Free or Die Hard are must see flicks. If you’re an action movie aficionado, both are pretty epic.

My favorites were Die Hard and Die Hard with a Vengeance — but then I’m a fan of Samuel Jackson. Die Hard was clearly the best of all of them.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:15:28am

re: #158 Hecuba’s daughter

My favorites were Die Hard and Die Hard with a Vengeance — but then I’m a fan of Samuel Jackson. Die Hard was clearly the best of all of them.

Both of us are undecided on which is the best but we both lean towards LFODH. It was freaking awesome - plus, Kevin Smith.

We’ll watch both whenever they’re on, though. And DH is *always* on at Christmas. Several times.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:16:50am

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Also left hanging
re: #52 Jebediah, RBG
short version - I can kinda relate to holiday losses

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:19:12am

re: #117 mmmirele

I’m going off to my mother’s in a bit to eat tamales with her and my brother, smothered in his special queso sauce. It doesn’t feel like Christmas in south central Arizona. It’s raining on and off and I have my heater going (not just for the heat but for the damp). I’ll probably talk to my sister by phone while I’m over there—the one time of the year we talk. This year she fell down the QAnon rathole but thankfully my brother did not!

Overall, it was a good year for me. I got out of a job that was mentally like having a steel trap around my ankle into one that really has its moments, but it pays better.

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(This picture was taken at a famous garden in Okayama that’s been around since the 17th century and entered its final form about 140 years ago.)

Happy Holidays / Merry Christmas / Happy Hanukkah / Happy Yule / Happy Kwanzaa!

If you ever have the chance I recommend visiting Kanazawa—the Kenrokuen garden is fabulous, and the town has a preserved/restored district of old samurai homes.

en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:20:23am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:21:59am

This will not end well.

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:24:40am

I just realized if you got too much of the other stuff in the stock it makes is harder for the fat to rise to the top. Dammit. But it still tastes good, so less dammit.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:24:45am

We have some secret Santa action to announce!

Thanks to some LGF pals who wish to remain anonymous, the following members will now have ad-free subscriptions for one full year. Enjoy!

Ace-o-aces
Cheechako
Dr Lizardo
Eclectic Cyborg
GlutenFreeJesus
Teddy’s Person

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:27:18am

re: #165 Charles Johnson

Wow. Thanks!

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:27:26am

re: #165 Charles Johnson

In the true spirit of the holiday. That is beautiful.

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makeitstop  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:31:38am

re: #165 Charles Johnson

We have some secret Santa action to announce!

Thanks to some LGF pals who wish to remain anonymous, the following members will now have ad-free subscriptions for one full year. Enjoy!

Ace-o-aces
Cheechako
Dr Lizardo
Eclectic Cyborg
GlutenFreeJesus
Teddy’s Person

Excellent.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:33:10am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:35:57am

re: #163 The Pie Overlord!

This will not end well.

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Somebody has been reading too damned many Stephanie Plum novels.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:36:29am
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steve_davis  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:41:28am

re: #25 calochortus

How can we let you know if you have your blanket over your head?

he’s under there with a flashlight.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:44:00am

re: #165 Charles Johnson

Wow!

Thank you so much to my secret Santa!

👍🏻❤️😊

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A Mom Anon  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:48:55am

re: #173 Eclectic Cyborg

Kindness isn’t that hard. And one little thing can make all the difference.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 25, 2019 • 11:51:54am

re: #163 The Pie Overlord!

This will not end well.

[Embedded content]

Grandmas tend to get run over by reindeer. Gotta pack the heat.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:00:40pm

I just turned the TV on and Die Hard is currently playing on five channels.

Tell me it’s not a Christmas movie! 😂😂

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CarolJ  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:01:20pm

re: #113 Jay C

Nobody good wants to be near him, and those who are near him only want something from him and are bad people themselves. He’s never been known as a good person, so I doubt he’s ever had even good aquaintances.

And now that he’s President, he’s even more isolated by being President than ever.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:02:06pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

We have some secret Santa action to announce!

Thanks to some LGF pals who wish to remain anonymous, the following members will now have ad-free subscriptions for one full year. Enjoy!

Ace-o-aces
Cheechako
Dr Lizardo
Eclectic Cyborg
GlutenFreeJesus
Teddy’s Person

Thank you to my secret Santa. I’ve been having an emotional morning. Like many here I have assholes in my family. But now I’m having one of those happy cries. Thank you again you kind and generous spirit.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:04:47pm

re: #170 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Somebody has been reading too damned many Stephanie Plum novels.

Oh gosh, haven’t read a Stephanie Plum book in a number of years. Used to read them when they came out but kind of got burnt out on about #15. I should pick up the series again. Lots of fun.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:07:53pm
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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:10:03pm

Hulu has Die Hard, A Christmas Story, and Parts Unkown S7E1 Manila

(happy BigPapa dance)

Stock report: I baked the bone to get the marrow but most of what looked like marrow was porous bone. So I didn’t get much out. Christmas is not ruined because what I have already is awesome. I’ll probably simmer this off for a bit and taste if it’s worthy. The schmutz of meat fat and gristle is already getting bland flavor so it’s flavor value is about cashed out.

All that flavor is in the liquid in my fridge awaiting the fat to rise, rise, RISE!

Good work, Secret Santa.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:12:35pm

Reminder: None of the figures in the Christmas story , including the Three Wise Men, were white people.

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:12:56pm

So, about kids being alright…

blogs.scientificamerican.com

Rather, according to the spreadsheet data, younger people were more likely to be uncertain or ambivalent about the shape of the Earth, either agreeing that they have recently entertained doubts that the Earth is round or opting for the “Other/Not Sure” choice on the questionnaire. Importantly, these responses weren’t distinctive to those aged 18 to 24 but were comparably prevalent among those aged 25 to 34 and those aged 35 to 44.

independent.co.uk

Far-right activity on university campuses is rising and Holocaust denial is becoming more prevalent among the younger generation, experts say.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:15:23pm

re: #180 Barefoot Grin

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Chuck U Todd needs to be fired.

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:18:28pm

re: #183 Nyet

A robust education system is bad for business. The US one has been under a slow assault, not blows from a hammer or fire, slower… like rust. We don’t have much more time.

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Nyet  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:20:09pm

re: #185 BigPapa

2nd link from the UK…

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jeffreyw  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:20:52pm

Noticed that season 2 of The End of the F***ing World is streaming on Netflix. Season 1 was quirky and fun.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:21:09pm

re: #184 Joe Bacon 🌹

Chuck U Todd needs to be fired.

Unfortunately, he’s receiving awards (no, seriously) and is the head of MSNBC news. He will continue to be a part of the problem for quite awhile.

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Mescalero09  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:27:42pm

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:29:02pm

re: #182 Eclectic Cyborg

Reminder: None of the figures in the Christmas story , including the Three Wise Men, were white people.

Megyn Kelly is furious with you!!

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:29:41pm

re: #186 Nyet

2nd link from the UK…

Yes, saw that. And I follow Australian politics as well since my sister lives in Newcastle.

The Sickness is spreading accross the ‘advanced’ societies. I’ve recently come to the conclusion that, at least as far as the US, conservatism is inherently anti-democracy, anti-government, and pro-fascist. While it evokes an extreme patriotism and nationalistic fervor, it is most definitely anti-patriotic.

I’ve been gathering thoughts on it and studying the idea for a few weeks now. Looking for books to explore on the subject.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:32:58pm

re: #190 Patricia Kayden

Megyn Kelly is furious with you!!

[Megyn Kelly]
“New scholarship reveals a mistranslation in the Biblical story of Jesus’s birth: he was visited by the Three White Men and NOT the Three Wise Men. Here to discuss after a commercial from our My Pillow and Hobby Lobby sponsors, expert theologian Erik Erickson.”
[/Megyn Kelly]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:38:59pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:40:28pm
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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:44:10pm

Now that I’m deep into Part II of the Mueller Report and after recent realizations of Manafort + $391m going to Ukraine:

WTF is Trump not registered with FARA? The whole GOP should be registered under FARA at this point. This is not a sick burn: they are lobbying for Russia. There is evidence of this.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:45:50pm

re: #195 BigPapa

Yes. There is evidence of a lot of this stuff. That is why Mueller said, “Read my report.”

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steve_davis  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:54:52pm

re: #73 BigPapa

Is it weird to name your boneless leg of lamb roast? Asking for a friend, who wants to call it Seymour.

I’m not sure you are allowed to name anything that is no longer capable of boning.

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:56:44pm

re: #196 PhillyPretzel

Yes. There is evidence of a lot of this stuff. That is why Mueller said, “Read my report.”

I’m reading it and taking notes. Actually writing a concise summary I may post here or on FB. I’ve found that writing something out helps me learn it better. I went through the Mueller Report when it first came out but, like most others I suspect, read the Summary then skimmed through looking for the meaty bits. Then I started on the IG Report, read the Summary, then stopped. I realized I needed to take a slower but more methodical drive through.

And also, not be distracted by all the other news and info coming out. There’s just so much shit going on.

I decided to start over on Mueller and read through the whole thing, then I’ll go back to the IG Report and do the same thing. I’ve already read the Steele stuff a few times.

This is my ‘doing something.’ I don’t have the big $ to throw at campaigns now, and I’m in a solid blue district where Toolsi is not going to run again and the contender is a very solid choice (Kai Kahele). Now when I deal with online trolls I hit em with with a Wall of Facts, blocking when they just get ridic. Sooner or later somebody will see something and it will stick.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 25, 2019 • 12:57:41pm

re: #195 BigPapa

Now that I’m deep into Part II of the Mueller Report and after recent realizations of Manafort + $391m going to Ukraine:

WTF is Trump not registered with FARA? The whole GOP should be registered under FARA at this point. This is not a sick burn: they are lobbying for Russia. There is evidence of this.

They should be prosecuted under RICO, the Russian Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act.

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:02:35pm

re: #199 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Totally going to Grand Theft Larceny that one!

Going through some BS with state professional worker licensing right now and the enforcement arm of Hawaii’s state licensing board is called RICO. People keep asking me ‘what’s RICO?’ and I have to remember the organized crime statutues, state licensing enforcement arm, and now the ‘Russian Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act.’

I’ll ask which one then tell them about all 3 because why not.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:06:19pm

re: #194 Patricia Kayden

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Remember how Jesus notoriously raw-dogged the “sinful woman” who anointed his feet (especially outrageous because we know that Pharaoh Ramses invented the condom centuries before). //

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lawhawk  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:06:45pm

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area on this Christmas day. I’ve spent it watching Doctor Who marathon, because why not.

It gives great moments and fun bits, and once in a while there’s a speech worth remembering.

Like the Doctor’s final speech before regenerating (from Capaldi to Whitaker). This bit sticks out as relevant - now and always (skip the pears bit; pears are good):

Never be cruel, never be cowardly. And never ever eat pears! Remember - hate is always foolish…and love, is always wise.

Always try, to be nice and never fail to be kind.

How is it that we have the worst kind of admin in power, and the worst kind of people supporting him and his malicious and malevolent ways. We see that from Parscale’s nonsensical ravings.

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Chrysicat  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:09:25pm

Seriously asking everyone before I open it up. A tablet of one or t’other sort is definitely a great thing.
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Jay C  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:09:38pm

re: #196 PhillyPretzel

Yes. There is evidence of a lot of this stuff. That is why Mueller said, “Read my report.”

Yeah, but what he didn’t say was: “Read my report, then DO something about it”!

Even if he suspected that Trump, Barr, and the rest of the corrupt asshole GOP would simply release a lying bullshit “summary”, then start screaming NO COLLUSION!!1!!11! COMPLETE EXONERATION!!1!!!11! at the top of their lungs hoping (disgracefully, correctly) that the media would simply swallow the lies, and then move on, leaving “The Mueller Report” as “yesterday’s news”.

I think Mueller did a decent enough job in the actual investigations: but he either should have known/guessed that the fix was in from the get-go (he can’t have expected much else from that corrupt pig Barr) - or worse, he knew and just didn’t care.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:09:45pm

re: #202 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area on this Christmas day. I’ve spent it watching Doctor Who marathon, because why not.

It gives great moments and fun bits, and once in a while there’s a speech worth remembering.

Like the Doctor’s final speech before regenerating (from Capaldi to Whitaker). This bit sticks out as relevant - now and always (skip the pears bit; pears are good):

How is it that we have the worst kind of admin in power, and the worst kind of people supporting him and his malicious and malevolent ways. We see that from Parscale’s nonsensical ravings.

I know it’s a long list, but I will not be upset if Parscale is sent to prison for tax evasion or some similar crime.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:09:57pm

pathetic

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:11:42pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

pathetic

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The insatiable need….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:12:53pm
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A Cranky One  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:13:50pm

Step son’s dog wishes all Happy Holidays!

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:22:31pm

weird - I heard holiday sales were down a little bit

If one want to make a comparison to Watergate, it’s this: the cover up (Russia) is worse than the crime (Obstruction). But by all other measures there is no comparison.

The crimes of Russia were probably not convictable in court but there’s also lots of issues where there is no law to regulate or govern seriously troubling issues or behaviour. We’re in a brave new world and a new Admin will have to get the FEC back up to health then add a shit ton of regulation to deal with problems Russia is very good at creating. The Mueller Report made that message loud and clear.

Fredo Jr was on the legal brink with the July 9 2016 meeting in Trump Tower and Mueller explains that there was considerable evidence of crime but A)there were many avenues for defense since some issues had no precedent and B) there were truly dumb asses and could say they didn’t know, even though they acted like they knew it wasn’t on the up and up.

So anybody who thinks being a businessman will make for a good government administrator, Team Trump’s activity with Russia will utterly smash that ignorance. The more I think about people like Fiona Hill, Marie Yovanovitch, and many of the other experienced employees that shined as solemn public servants in those hearings, the more I realize the seriousness of public service and oaths of office.

There are people who shy away from public service. Then there are those that are drawn to it. LC Vindman and many of the immigrant House Reps rose to the occasion in the hearings, they are drawn to it.

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lawhawk  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:22:48pm

re: #207 Barefoot Grin

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:23:46pm

This little boo has discovered pranksterism early. You can’t teach this.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:26:29pm

And it’s Christmas with the Schmenge Brothers!

SCTV Schmenge Brothers “Christmas in Leutonia”

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:39:26pm
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:45:52pm

I just finished watching the Downton Abbey movie again. Julian Fellows is one darn good writer.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:48:55pm

re: #213 Joe Bacon 🌹

And it’s Christmas with the Schmenge Brothers!

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YES! God I wish John Candy was still with us.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:51:42pm

Time to call it a night here in Europe and thanks again to my secret Santa. It’s much appreciated.

Have fun, Lizards.

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gocart mozart  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:53:05pm

re: #84 The Pie Overlord!

99% sure this is a parody account.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:55:40pm
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:56:20pm

re: #218 gocart mozart

I agree.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:57:23pm

re: #218 gocart mozart

99% sure this is a parody account.

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‘His pants were unzipped…. A line of drool dropped from the corner of his mouth and ended up on his sweater.’ (Paraphrasing Olivia Nuzzi’s interview)

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Teddy's Person  Dec 25, 2019 • 1:59:35pm

re: #219 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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I think someone said something similar in 1920s Germany.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:01:05pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

We have some secret Santa action to announce!

Thanks to some LGF pals who wish to remain anonymous, the following members will now have ad-free subscriptions for one full year. Enjoy!

Ace-o-aces
Cheechako
Dr Lizardo
Eclectic Cyborg
GlutenFreeJesus
Teddy’s Person

Some good folks hereabouts
Recipients and grantors alike

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:02:55pm

re: #223 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

There are a lot of good folks here at LGF. :)

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:06:09pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:08:04pm

She follows these related accounts

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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:10:09pm

re: #189 Mescalero09

I’m glad to report that you’re the latest recipient of a secret Santa ad-free subscription. Please enjoy!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:12:28pm

re: #224 PhillyPretzel

There are a lot of good folks here at LGF. :)

Yep. Sure are. When I came out and changed my name, the Lizard Nation was with me 100% with words of encouragement and support.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:13:32pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:20:20pm

It’s my Second Birthday!

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Jay C  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:20:42pm

re: #229 Patricia Kayden

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Considering that said incumbent is Martha (Senator Consolation Prize) McSally, Kelly’s fundraising lead doesn’t seem all that surprising.

re: #227 Charles Johnson

With M09’s gift, by my count, that makes 10 S.S. subscriptions for this year. Yay us! Just out of curiosity, Charles: how many registered users are there at LGF?

When I hit the “Show Users” button, it usually comes up with at least 25-30 online even on the Insomnia Shift (low-numbered hours ET), and rarely less than 60-80 during “normal” hours (if there is any such thing in Lizardom).

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Dread Pirate  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:22:13pm

re: #229 Patricia Kayden

The latest poll on Arizona Senate has Mark Kelly +5 against Martha McSally.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:22:16pm

re: #230 The Pie Overlord!

Have a very happy birthday VB.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:24:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:27:01pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:27:04pm

jfc what a freaking idjit.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:27:17pm

Even during holidays we should remember what’s what

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:29:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:40:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:47:41pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:48:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:49:01pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:49:05pm

re: #225 Charles Johnson

That’s my uncle Abdul - he’s such a show-off….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:51:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:51:27pm

*snerk*

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:53:11pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:53:43pm

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

Those tweets were not deleted. Here’s one… the others are still there too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:54:03pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:54:40pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

Those tweets were not deleted. Here’s one… the others are still there too.

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Probably deleted & then tweeted again without typos.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:56:01pm

asshole

A delivery driver in Detroit, Michigan, who was supposed to be dropping off a package for an Amazon customer for the holidays, instead decided to destroy it.

Surveillance video shows the driver get out of his vehicle, place a package in front of the back tire and then proceed to run it over repeatedly.

It’s the video footage neighbors living on the 3500 block of Bellows Court never imagine cameras would capture.

The truck driver stopped in front of a home and carefully placed a package in front of his rear passenger tire after doing a door knock. He gets back behind the wheel and goes back and forth, crushing what’s inside.

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:56:07pm

Ben Shapiro is a Sith Lord confirmed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 2:59:53pm

morons

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Dave In Austin  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:01:12pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:01:28pm

re: #241 The Pie Overlord!

Crackpot

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:10:53pm

All those Trumpers who tweet about the homeless are empty winds. They care not about the homeless. They don’t understand why people become homeless and they don’t care.

It’s just another scare tactic to work their gullible marks.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:15:45pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

asshole

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Mean people suck

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DodgerFan1988  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:16:13pm

Remembering the children the Trump Administration murdered.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:17:29pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

morons

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President Asshole wants to round up the homeless and give them the immigrants in the cages treatment…

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:20:55pm

re: #258 Joe Bacon 🌹

President Asshole wants to round up the homeless and give them the immigrants in the cages treatment…

President asshole wants to throw around federal muscle on liberal elite socialist California

Another manufactured bogey man and faux controversy

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:22:30pm

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:22:35pm

re: #231 Jay C

… When I hit the “Show Users” button, it usually comes up with at least 25-30 online even on the Insomnia Shift (low-numbered hours ET), and rarely less than 60-80 during “normal” hours (if there is any such thing in Lizardom).

I’m probably shown as “on” all the time, because my computer stays on and my LGF page open, unless I am out of town for some reason. Sorry if that throws off calculations! But I’m usually keeping track of things all day and evening long.

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sagehen  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:24:29pm

re: #255 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

All those Trumpers who tweet about the homeless are empty winds. They care not about the homeless. They don’t understand why people become homeless and they don’t care.

It’s just another scare tactic to work their gullible marks.

I’ll bet HUD striking people from their rolls, reducing subsidies and raising rents at federally-owned premises… could have something to do with it.

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sagehen  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:25:49pm

re: #257 DodgerFan1988

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Remembering the children the Trump Administration murdered.

But they’re not fetuses, so the Trumpers are okay with it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:26:17pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:27:39pm

If you don’t know about my friend Allee Willis who passed away yesterday here’s a link:

theguardian.com

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:28:57pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

morons

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Christmas tweets? Good grief!

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:31:35pm

re: #257 DodgerFan1988

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Remembering the children the Trump Administration murdered.

sob….

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:33:05pm

re: #265 Joe Bacon 🌹

If you don’t know about my friend Allee Willis who passed away yesterday here’s a link:

theguardian.com

She is all over NPR this afternoon, Joe. You would be happy at the honor showed her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:35:24pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:46:33pm

re: #255 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

All those Trumpers who tweet about the homeless are empty winds. They care not about the homeless. They don’t understand why people become homeless and they don’t care.

It’s just another scare tactic to work their gullible marks.

Hell, he’ll use it to cut federal funding and make shit worse.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:51:32pm

re: #255 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

All those Trumpers who tweet about the homeless are empty winds. They care not about the homeless. They don’t understand why people become homeless and they don’t care.

It’s just another scare tactic to work their gullible marks.

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Cheechako  Dec 25, 2019 • 3:59:20pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

We have some secret Santa action to announce!

Thanks to some LGF pals who wish to remain anonymous, the following members will now have ad-free subscriptions for one full year. Enjoy!

Ace-o-aces
Cheechako
Dr Lizardo
Eclectic Cyborg
GlutenFreeJesus
Teddy’s Person

Wow - I humbly thank whomever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:01:20pm
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:03:00pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mighty potent eggnog.

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retired cynic  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:05:33pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, that would put me under!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:05:40pm

i will soon release my update of ‘asphalt jungle’ set in washington dc in 2020, titled ‘asshole jungle’

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:05:52pm

Heavy rain moving into central California. It will be down here by tomorrow morning.

This Nov and Dec we have at least seen rain, unlike some previous years.

The loquat trees, what is left of them, look happy.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:09:32pm

I’m pretty sure the 1:4 ratio is best for mixed drinks, unless it’s a Pusser’s Painkiller #4, there the 1:3 ratio is acceptable.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:09:47pm

re: #1 nowherenorth2

I just want to say happy holidays to all on here and for being awesome and helping me with political discussions and also being a voice of sanity in an insane and ridiculous world gone upside down.

Thank you Charles and thank you everybody

in the theology of trelotheism, the belief that god is a blind, insane child, one logically concludes that it would be blasphemous to attribute the universe - that minute by minute wreaks harm on the innocent, leaves evil unscathed, and, most of all, is indifferent to human kind on our obscure little planetoid - to a wise, beneficent deity who cares about mankind

the idea is absurd on the face of it

no, one must face up to often downright perverse cruelness of being thrust into a life caught in the random play of electrons and quarks. the only law and commandments here are a physics which we barely understand and which often still baffles us

why, then, do trelotheists strive to live a moral life in a meaningless universe?

there is a satisfying symmetry to asking pointless questions to those who believe there are no answers

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Kilroy was here  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:10:22pm

Honest Trailers - Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer (1964)

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:10:30pm

re: #251 DodgerFan1988

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Ben Shapiro is a Sith Lord confirmed.

Garbage Hobbit gonna garbage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:12:47pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:17:36pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:20:09pm

Merry Christmas to you too, fuckface.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:20:40pm

re: #272 Dread Pirate

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Reminder: whose responsible for the DC budget?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:21:03pm

I need a laugh!

“MY STICK!” — A Bad Lip Reading of The Last Jedi

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:26:57pm

re: #278 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Heavy rain moving into central California. It will be down here by tomorrow morning.

This Nov and Dec we have at least seen rain, unlike some previous years.

The loquat trees, what is left of them, look happy.

it’s very confusing that the adjective form of ‘loquat’ is ‘loquacious’

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jaunte  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:40:56pm

re: #288 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

They always seemed so taciturn.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:44:16pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:44:55pm

re: #286 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

Reminder: whose responsible for the DC budget?

Batman and Superman, it would seem.

//

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mmmirele  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:47:56pm

re: #278 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Heavy rain moving into central California. It will be down here by tomorrow morning.

This Nov and Dec we have at least seen rain, unlike some previous years.

The loquat trees, what is left of them, look happy.

The low in Houston today (57) was higher than our high (53) here in south central Arizona. My sister, who lives in Houston, was astonished. But is that going to change her mind on climate change? Nope.

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BigPapa  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:53:58pm

Super Bowl
Superb Owl

Let It Snow
Le Tits Now

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Dread Pirate  Dec 25, 2019 • 4:59:12pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 25, 2019 • 5:02:41pm

re: #294 Dread Pirate

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If he really meant that he would order his bishops to abandon their lockstep support of the Republican Party. But he won’t because of his opposition to abortion.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 25, 2019 • 5:04:43pm

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jaunte  Dec 25, 2019 • 5:05:45pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 25, 2019 • 6:19:26pm

Night lizards. May the Deity of of your choice smile down upon you and yours this night and every night.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 25, 2019 • 9:30:28pm

re: #142 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

4 lb ball of love camped out in my lap.

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adorable!

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 26, 2019 • 12:37:24am

re: #231 Jay C

[snip]

When I hit the “Show Users” button, it usually comes up with at least 25-30 online even on the Insomnia Shift (low-numbered hours ET), and rarely less than 60-80 during “normal” hours (if there is any such thing in Lizardom).

Hey, I’m as normal as I can manage. Thank you very much my friend.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 26, 2019 • 10:06:37am

re: #225 Charles Johnson

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I have no idea, but it sure has cool ears.


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