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1
Rightwingconspirator  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:09:21pm

Ahhh nice music break.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:25:08pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:27:03pm
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retired cynic  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:27:12pm

re: #2 Dread Pirate

One can only hope that she ends up in jail for her part in this whole mess. Or, at least, loses what she has earned out of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:29:12pm

A bit of distressing news from the Balkans involving a dispute between the Montenegran and Serbian Orthodox churches (this a German news article zeit.de)

It involves settling property disputes dating back to the founding of Yugoslavia and the dissolution of the original Montenegran Orthodox Church, the point is that the Serbian minority in Montenegro opposes it and is now calling on Russia for support in the name of “Orthodox unity”.

This is all starting to smell like 1914 all over again…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:29:18pm

re: #4 retired cynic

One can only hope that she ends up in jail for her part in this whole mess. Or, at least, loses what she has earned out of it.

Won’t happen. She’ll get a pardon from Trump.

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Teukka  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:31:47pm

re: #5 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A bit of distressing news from the Balkans involving a dispute between the Montenegran and Serbian Orthodox churches (this a German news article zeit.de)

It involves settling property disputes dating back to the founding of Yugoslavia and the dissolution of the original Montenegran Orthodox Church, the point is that the Serbian minority in Montenegro opposes it and is now calling on Russia for support in the name of “Orthodox unity”.

This is all starting to smell like 1914 all over again…

Only this time, things can turn so, much, much more ugly.

:sighs:

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:33:03pm

re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹

Won’t happen. She’ll get a pardon from Trump.

His pardoning power expires in January 2021.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:37:12pm

re: #8 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

His pardoning power expires in January 2021.

Hopefully. But I fully expect Trump to pardon everyone in his administration!

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:37:13pm

re: #8 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

His pardoning power expires in January 2021.

Let us hope!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:39:29pm

re: #10 Hecuba’s daughter

Let us hope!

Agreed. I’m still not overly convinced Trump will be a one term President.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:40:37pm
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:40:56pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

You are not the only one but I remain hopeful.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:41:03pm
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makeitstop  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:42:41pm

They remind me of everyone from Michael Jackson to Scritti Politti to Go West to Level 42. What a crazy mix of chops and melody.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:42:44pm

morons

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:45:14pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

morons

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Big city has same problems as other big cities. Film at 11.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:46:11pm

Dude, hang it up already

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Teukka  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:49:03pm

Dunno if I should spoiler this?

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 28, 2019 • 12:58:52pm

re: #7 Teukka

Only this time, things can turn so, much, much more ugly.

:sighs:

Locally, maybe, but I don’t see it triggering a continent-wide conflagration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:00:46pm

re: #20 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Locally, maybe, but I don’t see it triggering a continent-wide conflagration.

Putin is using Orthodoxy and the Russian ethnic diaspora as his own Sudetendeutsche to project and expand his military and political influence all over Europe and Central Asia.

This distresses me.

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:03:09pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed. I’m still not overly convinced Trump will be a one term President.

I agree with Michael Moore’s latest assessment that Trump will win 2020 despite losing the Popular vote by 5 million.

White supremacism will advance and a de facto Judicial dictatorship will be enacted comprised of Trump appointees for the next 30 years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:04:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:05:16pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:06:59pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I don’t believe in violence,” said the guy who’s stockpiling firearms

“I’m not a racist,” said the guy holding a Confederate flag and giving a Hitler salute…

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:07:25pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What he does believe in is White Supremacy and the lies and myths inherent within.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:10:28pm

re: #26 Florida Panhandler

What he does believe in is White Supremacy and the lies and myths inherent within.

Their claim of patriotism and not white supremacy / nationalism (from the article) rings hollow to me.

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Teukka  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:16:52pm

re: #21 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Putin is using Orthodoxy and the Russian ethnic diaspora as his own Sudetendeutsche to project and expand his military and political influence all over Europe and Central Asia.

This distresses me.

It distresses me too, as my fatherland is the sights of the clique he hangs out with…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:18:07pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Still don’t think the Screw York Times is GOP propaganda?

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:18:07pm

re: #22 Florida Panhandler

I agree with Michael Moore’s latest assessment that Trump will win 2020 despite losing the Popular vote by 5 million.

White supremacism will advance and a de facto Judicial dictatorship will be enacted comprised of Trump appointees for the next 30 years.

Even if he wins — and the Repugs’ election history has been disastrous beginning in 2018 — if they don’t keep the Senate, he won’t be making judicial appointments.

Moore got lucky once, doesn’t make him a prophet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:21:22pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:32:59pm

re: #28 Teukka

It distresses me too, as my fatherland is the sights of the clique he hangs out with…

My grandparents all came from parts of the old Austro-Hungarian Empire.

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Unabogie  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:35:44pm

re: #30 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Even if he wins — and the Repugs’ election history has been disastrous beginning in 2018 — if they don’t keep the Senate, he won’t be making judicial appointments.

Moore got lucky once, doesn’t make him a prophet.

This is absolutely true. Obama won in 2008 and 2012. Hillary got more total votes in 2016. What happened is that too many people thought 2016 was a freebie and they could take it easy since Trump was never going to win. 2018 shows what happens when people work hard against the GOP. We will win if we don’t take it for granted and work hard together. That’s it. That’s the challenge. Let’s do it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:36:53pm

re: #22 Florida Panhandler

I agree with Michael Moore’s latest assessment that Trump will win 2020 despite losing the Popular vote by 5 million.

.

I ignored MM’s predictions about 2016, but, as he wrote, that was a matter of pure electoral mathematics.

And again, Trump just has to retain the states that the Republicans carried in 2012 (no real problem there) and carry the four rust-belt states of OH, PA, MI and WI, or three of those plus Florida.

He can do that despite a massive deficit in the popular vote, which he can then ascribe to “Democrat voter fraud”.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:36:56pm

re: #33 Unabogie

Exactly. DT must be fought from the grassroots.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:38:00pm

re: #35 PhillyPretzel

Exactly. DT must be fought from the grassroots.

and again, apathy and indifference are the best forms of voter suppression…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:38:15pm

This week in “Imagine if Obama”

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Charles Johnson  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:39:31pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some of these lunatics could definitely snap and commit violence on an individual or even mass scale (e.g. Timothy McVeigh), but they’re not going to launch a civil war. These are empty threats from dumbasses.

The Confederacy was basically an entire nation, united to defend the slave economy. There’s nothing analogous to that today.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:43:40pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t get to travel much but have spent a few days in SanFrancisco about 10 years ago. And yes we saw homeless people and poverty. But honestly the city was cleaner and felt safer than Atlanta any day of the week. And it was pretty, pretty buildings, lovely parks, and really nice people. If I could afford to live there I would leave Georgia in a heartbeat. These idiots need to get out more, with what they get paid, they could afford to. But they’re too busy being assholes to bother to actually see the places they hate to much because conservatives tell them to.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:49:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:49:33pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:49:46pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Meal-Team 6 could take out all the libtards; don’t need that many people. They gots all da guns

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:50:34pm

Well damn, thought this had been swept under the carpet
Prosecutors appear to be pushing back against the judges early ruling favorable to Kraft

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:55:53pm

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I ignored MM’s predictions about 2016, but, as he wrote, that was a matter of pure electoral mathematics.

And again, Trump just has to retain the states that the Republicans carried in 2012 (no real problem there) and carry the four rust-belt states of OH, PA, MI and WI, or three of those plus Florida.

He can do that despite a massive deficit in the popular vote, which he can then ascribe to voter fraud”.

Take a look at DT’s polling in those states.

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Jay C  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:59:21pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

Some of these lunatics could definitely snap and commit violence on an individual or even mass scale (e.g. Timothy McVeigh), but they’re not going to launch a civil war. These are empty threats from dumbasses.

The Confederacy was basically an entire nation, united to defend the slave economy. There’s nothing analogous to that today.

Not to mention the fact that the secession movement was fostered by, and organized by the bulk of the political Establishments of the slave states: Senators and Congressmen, Governors and state legislatures, all quasi-officially organizing the “Secession Conventions” whose results they gleefully adopted; and voting themselves into the Confederacy with little substantive opposition*. It’s hard to see, today, even the reddest of red-state legislators - outside of the usual rabble of nuts - lining up in any great numbers to try to break up the Union. Over Donald Trump…?

*Yes, I know, pro-secession, pro-Confederacy sentiment was far from universal, even in the “Deep South”. But it still didn’t stop the course of events.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2019 • 1:59:54pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m really tired of constantly reading about White Trump supporters. Can the media please interview the POC who support Democrats and flipped the House in the midterms? We matter too.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:04:32pm

re: #6 Joe Bacon 🌹

Won’t happen. She’ll get a pardon from Trump.

I can’t wait to see how many of his admin he preemptively pardons
Especially ones barely on the criminality radar

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:07:36pm

re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth

morons

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He’s really got a system down. He doesn’t say a lot
He gets others to do it
Then retweets as if the original represents ” lots of people are saying”

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:09:31pm

re: #22 Florida Panhandler

I agree with Michael Moore’s latest assessment that Trump will win 2020 despite losing the Popular vote by 5 million.

White supremacism will advance and a de facto Judicial dictatorship will be enacted comprised of Trump appointees for the next 30 years.

Well I wasn’t going for the bourbon today, but now..

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:09:32pm

Sigh

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:11:41pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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There won’t be any violence if I get what I want and you do what I say

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:13:04pm

re: #33 Unabogie

This is absolutely true. Obama won in 2008 and 2012. Hillary got more total votes in 2016. What happened is that too many people thought 2016 was a freebie and they could take it easy since Trump was never going to win. 2018 shows what happens when people work hard against the GOP. We will win if we don’t take it for granted and work hard together. That’s it. That’s the challenge. Let’s do it.

Ok a small bourbon

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:16:55pm

re: #46 Patricia Kayden

I’m really tired of constantly reading about White Trump supporters. Can the media please interview the POC who support Democrats and flipped the House in the midterms? We matter too.

To be fair there aren’t a whole lot of others

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:20:44pm

Why the hell is Live PD so addictive?
And, when then hell did half the adult population of the US start driving vehicles without licences?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:26:44pm

re: #44 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Take a look at DT’s polling in those states.

polling numbers, votes cast and votes actually counted/registered are entirely different matters…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:32:12pm

re: #4 retired cynic

One can only hope that she ends up in jail for her part in this whole mess. Or, at least, loses what she has earned out of it.

putting kellyanne in jail is not fair to other prisoners.

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:35:54pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:38:54pm

re: #30 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Even if he wins — and the Repugs’ election history has been disastrous beginning in 2018 — if they don’t keep the Senate, he won’t be making judicial appointments.

Moore got lucky once, doesn’t make him a prophet.

YES. Also, the Democratic nominee is going to be spending a lot of time/money in the three or four states that matter. This will get lots of coverage and the bad farm/manufacturing news does not help trump. I don’t think trump is anywhere near a lock for 2020.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:40:32pm

re: #57 jaunte

Expect a lot more rulings like this in the future now that Trump has stacked the judiciary.

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bratwurst  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:44:23pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:49:21pm
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Jay C  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:53:28pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

Expect a lot more rulings like this in the future now that Trump has stacked the judiciary.

Actually, the judge who issued the GA ruling was an appointee of President Obama’s. And, even though IANAL, I can see the reasoning behind his decision (State v. Federal grounds) - even if I don’t particularly agree with it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:53:53pm

re: #61 Rightwingconspirator

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“Liberal elite member of the swamp”.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 28, 2019 • 2:57:22pm

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

polling numbers, votes cast and votes actually counted/registered are entirely different matters…

Really?! Why didn’t someone tell me that?!

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:06:03pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:08:42pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:15:40pm

Why NY Times? Why?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:17:48pm

nutzo

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:18:21pm

re: #67 I Would Prefer Not To

Why NY Times? Why?

They want Trump re-elected

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:22:35pm

Evening Lizardim. What did I miss during my week away from reality? One thing I didn’t - we somehow miraculously avoided the annual Christmastime Airing of Political Grievances. For once, my dad kept his giant yapper shut and we actually had a peaceable, enjoyable week. How go things now that I am safely ensconced behind a moat of glassy ice?

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can't think of a decent username  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:23:31pm

re: #67 I Would Prefer Not To

Why NY Times? Why?

The Times has a long history of favoring fascists.

At this point, maybe we should ask why liberal columnists and reporters haven’t turned in their resignations.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:23:58pm
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retired cynic  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:24:00pm

re: #71 can’t think of a decent username

The Times has a long history of favoring fascists.

At this point, maybe we should ask why liberal columnists and reporters haven’t turned in their resignations.

Not enough jobs to go around anymore!

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:24:02pm
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retired cynic  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:31:27pm

re: #74 jaunte

Maybe not normal for “a” president, but for “this” president, unfortunately…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:31:32pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:33:55pm

What has she stood up to do? Claim that she’s concerned? That’s not praiseworthy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:36:44pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:38:06pm

MSNBC is airing a Chuck Todd special on Media and Disinformation tomorrow night. Reports are that WaPo’s Marty Baron and NYT’s Dean Baquet (sp?) will be featured. I have some respect for Baron, but I hope this isn’t just another “it’s not our responsibility” promo.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:41:44pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:42:57pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I love that. Our rescue looks much like that dog. When we picked her up she was so scared, but once finally in the car, about 15 minutes into the drive home, she came up briefly from the back seat and gave me one lick on the cheek and then went back to the back seat until we got home. She was actually pretty jealous of my wife and youngest son for the first month or two, but now she gives wife kisses, too. But when we sit together on the sofa she tries to get up between us. She gets sent to the love seat.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:47:24pm

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

What has she stood up to do? Claim that she’s concerned? That’s not praiseworthy.

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This is the defense mechanism that Repub “moderates” have developed in the past few years, making noises about “concern” or “dismay” or “disappointment” so that the media wastes ink portraying them as “principled,” right before they vote the party line on some BS excuse. Nobody should be the least bit surprised when Murkowski and her fellow “moderates” do something like blaming Schumer for why they’re voting for a sham “trial.”

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:49:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:52:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:55:07pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still giggling over “Wonderwench”

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retired cynic  Dec 28, 2019 • 3:59:01pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still giggling over “Wonderwench”

I enjoyed that movie.

/

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:00:51pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

Those Haggard Hawks have found some unusual words. And I agree wonderwench is a good one. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:02:41pm
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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:14:39pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hungary’s population has been declining and their median age has been climbing since 1985.
worldometers.info

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:19:47pm
…Despite government efforts and the costly family policy system, Hungarian couples don’t appear motivated to have bigger families. The new national statistics reveal the true extent of the population loss and reflect the dismal reality of the country’s fertility rates.
At the beginning of January, PM Viktor Orbán announced a seven-point action plan for family protection which includes a preferential loan, tax breaks, new creche places, a state-sponsored grant for buying a new car and child-care available for parents and grandparents.”
hungarytoday.hu

When all else fails, blame immigrants.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:21:24pm

there were daily posts in the thread, and then this happened tonight:

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:23:41pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jenga and Zagat; great names.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:28:57pm

This planet is overpopulated as is. A few declines here and there aren’t necessarily a bad thing.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:30:21pm

re: #93 Eclectic Cyborg

This planet is overpopulated as is. A few declines here and there aren’t necessarily a bad thing.

Butbutbut WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:30:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:32:48pm
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Jay C  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:34:19pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Hopefully, that’s a bulb, not a lit candle?
Otherwise, it might be just a tad of a hazard…

Who was it from the Olden Days, Hannibal, I think? He was besieged by a Roman army, so he rounded up a herd of cattle, tied torches onto their horns, then stampeded them, on fire, towards the Roman lines. Hoping, I guess that all the flammables were on the other side of the field…..

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Dread Pirate  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:34:47pm
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Citizen K  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:39:17pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

*waves hands frantically in the air*

THIS SHOULD BE MUCH BIGGER NEWS!

Should be! But nah, lets insinuate that Biden is really the one obstructing justice because he’s refusing to rise to bait because God-King Cheeto demands he be held to a higher standard instead. Lets laud Serious Person David Brooks and Totally-Not-A-White-Supremacist Bretbug Stephens for their clear minded displays of bothsiderism and racial analyses, respectively.

As if being surrounded by folks on all sides who insist that Trump’s election is purely the fault of Hillary and the DNC for being the worst candidate and party in all of history and if only a certain Saint was nominee we’d all have a utopia by now wasn’t bad enough. Fuck.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:40:52pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:41:06pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:44:18pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate

The linked article has a photo of a truck wreck that I drove past on my way home from fish country. One of five such wrecks, in fact. It was a … fun drive.

Also, that intersection where that video was taken, I drove through it about 4 hours later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:47:04pm

re: #97 Jay C

Hopefully, that’s a bulb, not a lit candle?
Otherwise, it might be just a tad of a hazard…

Who was it from the Olden Days, Hannibal, I think? He was besieged by a Roman army, so he rounded up a herd of cattle, tied torches onto their horns, then stampeded them, on fire, towards the Roman lines. Hoping, I guess that all the flammables were on the other side of the field…..

yes, a bulb

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:52:46pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:52:56pm
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danarchy  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:55:13pm

re: #44 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Take a look at DT’s polling in those states.

He is unfortunately either leading or within the margin of error in all of them in head to head polling with the leading Dem candidates. He needs to thread the needle to win, but he needed to do that last time as well.

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plansbandc  Dec 28, 2019 • 4:55:22pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

It’s going to be a door-to-door escalation of violence. Agreed that there won’t be a particular dividing line, but it will be a Civil War of sorts. And it will not be solved. Ideological opposites will never be happy together in the same country. I do not think the US as we know it survives much longer.

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:02:17pm

re: #98 Dread Pirate

Brings back memories of riding a shuttle bus over Austin hills during an ice storm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:05:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:31:07pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:32:50pm

re: #94 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Butbutbut WHITE PEOPLE!!!!!

Go dig up the newspapers from the 1910s and see what the Conservative press was calling the Hungarian immigrants to the US at that time.
//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:37:55pm

re: #111 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Go dig up the newspapers from the 1910s and see what the Conservative press was calling the Hungarian immigrants to the US at that time.
//

my maternal grandfather was a Rom born in Budapest in 1889, came here around 1904.
kinda familiar with how they were welcomed.

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:41:55pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:43:02pm

re: #111 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Go dig up the newspapers from the 1910s and see what the Conservative press was calling the Hungarian immigrants to the US at that time.
//

Step back another generation and see what they were calling my immigrant ancestors, the Irish.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:46:58pm

re: #114 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Step back another generation and see what they were calling my immigrant ancestors, the Irish.

Yep. And not long before that they were ranting about the Germans.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:51:49pm
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A Mom Anon  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:52:08pm

re: #113 jaunte

Hell to the HELL NO. Covered in tons of NOPE sprinkles.

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:54:39pm

re: #117 A Mom Anon

Those rides always make me wonder who won the low bid on bolts.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:55:31pm

re: #118 jaunte

I see no good reason to have this. Humans are weird.

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:56:42pm

re: #22 Florida Panhandler

I agree with Michael Moore’s latest assessment that Trump will win 2020 despite losing the Popular vote by 5 million.

White supremacism will advance and a de facto Judicial dictatorship will be enacted comprised of Trump appointees for the next 30 years.

Naaaah.

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William Lewis  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:56:59pm

re: #113 jaunte

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I have always wanted to try that ride.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:57:14pm

As Stephen Hawking (Not Ashkenazi & not Jewish) famously said, “People who boast about their IQ are losers”

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:57:36pm

re: #121 William Lewis

What’s it called? I’ve not seen that one in real life.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:58:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:58:54pm

re: #114 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Step back another generation and see what they were calling my immigrant ancestors, the Irish.

Paternal side of my family…arriving here in the early to mid-1800s

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2019 • 5:59:31pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

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“Shmendrick” is Yiddish for “dumbass”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:00:16pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

Paternal side of my family…arriving here in the early to mid-1800s

Mid-1700’s here, on the same side. Mother’s side of the family is largely descended from a Hessian soldier who came over and decided to stay after surviving the war.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:00:46pm

re: #126 The Pie Overlord!

“Shmendrick” is Yiddish for “douchebag”

Oh, please tell me this is actually true.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:01:18pm

re: #128 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, please tell me this is actually true.

Edited: Yiddish for “dumbass”

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:02:00pm

It’s a generic word for a stupid, obnoxious person.

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jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:02:41pm

“Schmendricks, Mandrake!”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:02:44pm

re: #130 The Pie Overlord!

It’s a generic word for a stupid, obnoxious person.

I have a new favorite word. Thank you.

133
Jay C  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:03:07pm

re: #130 The Pie Overlord!

It’s a generic word for a stupid, obnoxious person.

Illustrated with a picture of Bret Stephens.

134
A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:04:33pm

re: #106 danarchy

He is unfortunately either leading or within the margin of error in all of them in head to head polling with the leading Dem candidates. He needs to thread the needle to win, but he needed to do that last time as well.

I don’t know where you’re getting your polls, but that’s not what I ‘m seeing.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:09:47pm

re: #106 danarchy

He is unfortunately either leading or within the margin of error in all of them in head to head polling with the leading Dem candidates. He needs to thread the needle to win, but he needed to do that last time as well.

I just don’t see it.

538

projects.fivethirtyeight.com
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Belafon  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:15:11pm
Iowa’s metropolitan areas, some of the fastest growing in the country over the past two decades, have given birth to a new political front where Democrats saw gains in 2018…

There are also signs Iowa Democrats have shaken some of the apathy that helped Trump and hobbled Clinton in Iowa in 2016.

Democratic turnout in 2018 leaped from the previous midterm in 2014 from 57% to 68%, according to the Iowa Secretary of State. Republican turnout, which is typically higher, also rose, but by a smaller margin.

Overall turnout in Iowa, as in more reliably Democratic-voting presidential states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, was down in 2016, due mostly to a downturn in Democratic participation.

“The trend was down, across the board,” said Ann Selzer, who has conducted The Des Moines Register’s Iowa Poll for more than 25 years. “So it doesn’t take much to create a Democratic victory in these upper Midwestern states.”

“I think the success in the midterms kind of made people on the Democratic side believe that ‘we can do it,’” Selzer said…

apnews.com

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:18:29pm

re: #135 Rightwingconspirator

I just don’t see it.

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projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Unfortunately, that’s his national numbers, which as we saw in ‘16 only meant that Hillary beat his ass by millions of votes while he won the election in key states by a few thousand. Running up the score nationally don’t mean much if he’s winning key battles where he needs to.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:19:59pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

Look at the far left. The numbers were literally inverted from now.
RCP Ohio-Trump loses to Biden bigly.

139
Citizen K  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:20:31pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

Unfortunately, that’s his national numbers, which as we saw in ‘16 only meant that Hillary beat his ass by millions of votes while he won the election in key states by a few thousand. Running up the score nationally don’t mean much if he’s winning key battles where he needs to.

And we’re in a possible position where the Dem could rack up an even larger popular vote lead and still lose the Electoral College because of that shit.

140
Rightwingconspirator  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:24:10pm
141
Decatur Deb  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:24:15pm

re: #139 Citizen K

And we’re in a possible position where the Dem could rack up an even larger popular vote lead and still lose the Electoral College because of that shit.

We can win. It’s going to take 2-3 times as much effort and money as 2016.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:25:29pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

Unfortunately, that’s his national numbers, which as we saw in ‘16 only meant that Hillary beat his ass by millions of votes while he won the election in key states by a few thousand. Running up the score nationally don’t mean much if he’s winning key battles where he needs to.

Again, we are not fighting the last war. We know where we need to fight. The candidates (Warren, Biden, Sanders) all know this. Hillary, hindsight is 20/20, should have spent more time there. Trump doesn’t campaign, he holds rallies. The democrat candidate will meet a lot of people, shake a lot of hands, and offer something other than hate. Doesn’t mean we are going to win, but we are going to fight in the most important places on the map. I predict we will win the EC. trump is not getting more popular.

Edit. I really like Warren’s ground game. I think it can deliver in MI, WI, and other states.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:26:12pm

re: #138 Rightwingconspirator

Look at the far left. The numbers were literally inverted from now.
RCP Ohio-Trump loses to Biden bigly.

That’s now. What’s it look like in 6 months? In 9?

None of us foresaw Comey so blatantly putting his thumb on the scale a week before the election in ‘16 by sending a letter he knew would leak to the press saying that he was “reopening” the Clinton investigation. Not because there was new evidence, not because of new “revelations,” but simply to avoid a potential “leak” from the FBI NY office which he knew to be packed with agents that hated her with a fiery passion.

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:26:50pm

re: #142 I Would Prefer Not To

Again, we are not fighting the last war. We know where we need to fight. The candidates (Warren, Biden, Sanders) all know this. Hillary, hindsight is 20/20, should have spent more time there. Trump doesn’t campaign, he holds rallies. The democrat candidate will meet a lot of people, shake a lot of hands, and offer something other than hate. Doesn’t mean we are going to win, but we are going to fight in the most important places on the map. I predict we will win the EC. trump is not getting more popular.

And 2018 was not an anomaly.

145
jaunte  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:26:56pm

re: #140 Rightwingconspirator

Douchebag Pipers.

146
I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:28:12pm

re: #145 jaunte

Douchebag Pipers.

Closet Cases.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:28:59pm

By the way, I’m not saying we can’t win or that the Dems haven’t learned from 2016. I’m simply cautioning that we need to avoid the same complacency that gripped us then. If the polls say Biden is up by 10, we should be working to drive it up to 15, 20, or even higher. Why? Because 10 point leads can vanish like a 28-3 lead in the Superb Owl.

148
sagehen  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:29:24pm

re: #118 jaunte

Those rides always make me wonder who won the low bid on bolts.

Decades ago, I used to sell magic mushrooms. When I found out that one of my regular customers worked at Magic Mountain, his job was to walk the track of one of the roller coasters every night, testing the bolts and tightening those that needed it… that was the last time I ever went to that park.

149
Mattand  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:33:02pm

re: #141 Decatur Deb

We can win. It’s going to take 2-3 times as much effort and money as 2016.

Pretty much this.

We’re up against:

• Russian interference
• A GOP base who is energized by the idea they got the dictator they’ve always wanted
• the Bernie Bros (if Sanders doesn’t get the nom); aka, the suicide bombers of the Democratic party
• A purported news network that is essentially a GOP propaganda mill.
• My personal fave, the fuckwit “independents” who’ll go “Gosh, my finances are fine and I’m sooooo tired of being reminded that Trump is unfit for office! I don’t know how I’ll vote.”

It will not be easy.

150
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:33:50pm

Speaking of the revered Moose and Squirrel:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:35:43pm

re: #140 Rightwingconspirator

Sgt. Pences Lonely Hearts Club Band

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:37:34pm

OK. this is too depressing, logging off for now, but let me leave you with this thought. Trump has a lot more time to do many stupid things and lose more votes. and he will do stupid things……

so good night sisters and brothers

peace and love & love and peace.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:37:50pm

re: #151 Eclectic Cyborg

Sgt. Pences Lonely Hearts Club Band

Manksy is humbled in defeat. OMG that’s perfect.

154
Decatur Deb  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:40:09pm

re: #149 Mattand

Pretty much this.

We’re up against:

• Russian interference
• A GOP base who is energized by the idea they got the dictator they’ve always wanted
• the Bernie Bros (if Sanders doesn’t get the nom); aka, the suicide bombers of the Democratic party
• A purported news network that is essentially a GOP propaganda mill.
• My personal fave, the fuckwit “independents” who’ll go “Gosh, my finances are fine and I’m sooooo tired of being reminded that Trump is unfit for office! I don’t know how I’ll vote.”

It will not be easy.

And
*The genuine practical power of incumbancy
*Somewhat successful GOP voter suppression efforts.
*The continued growth of the economy/employment that started under Obama.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:42:24pm

re: #140 Rightwingconspirator

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:43:01pm

re: #151 Eclectic Cyborg

Sgt. Pences Lonely Hearts Club Band

Wide Stance

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sagehen  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:45:27pm

re: #122 The Pie Overlord!

As Stephen Hawking (Not Ashkenazi & not Jewish) famously said, “People who boast about their IQ are losers”

Our physical, inherent intellectual potential is pretty much the same as everyone else’s.

What we do have is a long, long history of escaping, or being thrown out of, a lot of countries. Usually on short notice; you can’t bring your house or furniture or livestock or tools or money. And then you have to start over again, from scratch, somewhere new.

We’ve internalized over the generations that the one thing nobody can ever take from you is your education. Whatever you know, it comes with you to the new place. That’s why we put so much emphasis on education, and our kids never hear the end of it if they don’t make it their priority too.

That’s why we have so many doctors, lawyers and rocket scientists.

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uriel  Dec 28, 2019 • 6:52:51pm

Whoops! Hit return too soon!

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A Mom Anon  Dec 28, 2019 • 7:04:48pm

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

Below Average White Band (with no rhythm at all….)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 28, 2019 • 7:19:15pm

re: #159 A Mom Anon

Below Average White Band (with no rhythm at all….)

All the rhythm has been bred out of my people

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:00:48am

re: #106 danarchy

He is unfortunately either leading or within the margin of error in all of them in head to head polling with the leading Dem candidates. He needs to thread the needle to win, but he needed to do that last time as well.

The needle wasnt widely enough recognized in 2016


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