Jason Mraz & Raining Jane in a Tiny Brick Room: “3 Things” (Live & Acoustic)

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“3 Things” by Jason Mraz from the album ‘YES!’

Performed live & acoustic in Toronto, ON with Raining Jane
Filmed & Edited by Travis Latam (instagram.com)
Engineered by Alex Seguin (instagram.com)
Mixed by Justin Zuccato (instagram.com)
Grip: Sasha Driedger

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Since getting his start in coffeehouses in San Diego, Jason Mraz has brought his positive message and soulful, folk-pop sound to rapt audiences around the world. Along the way, he has earned platinum certifications for his albums ‘We Sing. We Dance. We Steal Things.’ and ‘Love Is a Four Letter Word,” made pop history with his singles “I’m Yours” and “I Won’t Give Up,” racked up two Grammy Awards, and won the prestigious Songwriter Hall of Fame Hal David Award. In addition to his 2018 album ‘Know.’ making waves on the US Billboard 200, Mraz has also recently made his Broadway debut in the musical Waitress.

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365 comments

1
Anymouse 🌹🎃  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:17:47pm

Just dropping in (then back out) to say that my wife and I arrived in Chicago yesterday.

We barely beat the blizzard (it started snowing when we left home), and we were at the leading edge of sleet in North Platte. We couldn’t go home now if we tried (still coming down hard in central Nebraska).

My sister and cousin are here, and we’re working on helping my mother pack her things.

She is still insisting she’s going to stay in Chicago on her limited income, but so far no dice on finding an apartment within her means.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:31:00pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Glad you made it safely. Sending you love and strength as you work through all of this.

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retired cynic  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:31:19pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🎃

We wish you luck in either finding a place that she can manage, or in getting her to agree to move with family. So glad you beat that weather!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:32:46pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Hoping everything will work out.

Hopefully you’ll be able to get to Lew Mitchell’s for their great breakfast menu!

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:34:24pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Just dropping in (then back out) to say that my wife and I arrived in Chicago yesterday.

We barely beat the blizzard (it started snowing when we left home), and we were at the leading edge of sleet in North Platte. We couldn’t go home now if we tried (still coming down hard in central Nebraska).

My sister and cousin are here, and we’re working on helping my mother pack her things.

She is still insisting she’s going to stay in Chicago on her limited income, but so far no dice on finding an apartment within her means.

I feel for your mom. It’s hard for an older person to move out of their comfort zone to a new place. My kids want us to move to Florida and I’m like NFW.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:39:48pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:44:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:50:16pm

I know some people might find Jason Mraz sappy. But I really like his music because it’s so artless. That’s really him, from everything I’ve heard - a genuinely good person.

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Unabogie  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:50:22pm

These fucking guys. They really do have no loyalty to their country. We’re watching a major political party do a complete sell-out to a foreign power.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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retired cynic  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:51:09pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I enjoyed it. It was just ‘natural.’

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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:53:33pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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He’s a “fighter” in the sense that abusive husbands are “fighters.” He never punches up, he never fights with those who are of equal or greater stature than he. He always punches down, he always goes after those who have less clout than he does, and he always uses his perceived “superiority” to force them to give in to his terms. So when you hear him described as a “fighter,” what you’re really hearing is the person defending him say that he’s an asshole…but he’s an asshole towards the people they hate, so they’re totally cool with it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:54:15pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Just dropping in (then back out) to say that my wife and I arrived in Chicago yesterday.

We barely beat the blizzard (it started snowing when we left home), and we were at the leading edge of sleet in North Platte. We couldn’t go home now if we tried (still coming down hard in central Nebraska).

My sister and cousin are here, and we’re working on helping my mother pack her things.

She is still insisting she’s going to stay in Chicago on her limited income, but so far no dice on finding an apartment within her means.

Glad you beat the blizzard!

Does your mother have any friends with whom she could share an apartment and expenses?

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b.d. (Lock Him Up!)  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:54:50pm

Evening Lizards:

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Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2019 • 5:57:19pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:01:40pm

Just remember while Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib were expressing outrage over the Monsey attack, Trump retweeted this Deplorable:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:04:29pm
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plansbandc  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:05:09pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🎃

((((hugs))))

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BigPapa  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:07:06pm

Trump is still exposed from the Mueller Report. While Volume 1 (Russian Interference) clearly showed ethical and moral failings on a grand scale, and running up and dancing all over the line of criminality in some instances, it would have been an uphill battle to draft Articles much less push through the Senate. Levels of proof, proving intent, and lack of precedent worked against impeachment for Trump.

Volume 2 (Obstruction) is another story. I’m sure the rationale for not running up Articles in V2 will come out, or maybe they were taking their time until Insance in the Ukraine came up.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:11:15pm
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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:12:01pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:12:32pm

re: #7 Dread Pirate

Rob Reiner

@robreiner
We now know that Trump was told it was illegal to withhold aid to Ukraine. Like the career Criminal he is, he didn’t give a shit. Advice to Pompeo, Mulvaney, Bolton: Save your asses-Testify. Per Rick Wilson: “Everything Trump touches Dies”

24.8K
4:12 PM - Dec 29, 2019

Pompeo and Bolton objected to the withholding of aid — There is no evidence that Mulvaney cared; why think that he would ever do what is right? Bolton might — he has serious policy disagreements with Trump and his views are antithetical to those of the President. Who knows what motivates Pompeo? How could he continue in thrall to this President who represents the opposite of the honor that was supposedly instilled in him at West Point? Pompeo appears to be another victim of ETTD.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:12:53pm

re: #20 jaunte

That’s pretty much how I assumed it played out.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:23:49pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:23:56pm
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sagehen  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:25:26pm

re: #21 Hecuba’s daughter

Pompeo and Bolton objected to the withholding of aid — There is no evidence that Mulvaney cared; why think that he would ever do what is right? Bolton might — he has serious policy disagreements with Trump and his views are antithetical to those of the President. Who knows what motivates Pompeo? How could he continue in thrall to this President who represents the opposite of the honor that was supposedly instilled in him at West Point? Pompeo appears to be another victim of ETTD.

I’m guessing that Pompeo’s motivation is he wants Trump’s endorsement for his KS senate run.

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BigPapa  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:26:34pm

Mueller Report:

Fourth, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment. The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.

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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:34:37pm

re: #23 jaunte

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There are moments like these where I remember why I liked Biden during the Obama years and want to see that guy back again. It makes me feel that his nomination, while not my first choice, would be something I could see myself getting behind.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:34:47pm

re: #26 BigPapa

It was a road map of sorts that if carefully read and followed one could say that DT did do wrong. And add all of that information in Mueller’s report and what has been released with the whistleblower’s report. Yes there is more than enough to get him.

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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:38:32pm

By the way, imagine that Biden moment happening at a Trump rally. The simple reality is you can’t because he’d never let a plebe talk to him in such a fashion. He’d almost immediately demand security remove the guy, even encouraging the audience to attack him, before opining about how such men would have been savagely beaten “back in the day…”

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BigPapa  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:38:48pm

re: #28 PhillyPretzel

Yup. There’s 10 investigative avenues that Mueller looked at. I’m going through them for a sort of ‘rating’ as to how proveable each one is. I’m guessing they could have got solid 2-3 Articles on Trump for Obstruction. But I have more homework to do.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:40:05pm

re: #30 BigPapa

And that is why Mueller said, “Read my report.”

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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:43:29pm

re: #20 jaunte

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It’s been my opinion since the revelations of last week about the timing of the initial order to impose the hold that it was totally an impulsive act on Trump’s part, which is par for the course when it comes to such acts. Rudy was not finding Zelensky and his inner circle receptive to demands for investigations, certainly not when the “reward” was a simple White House meeting. So when Zelensky thanked Trump for the defense funds, he saw his opening in withholding those funds and sprung into action.

What he never figured upon was Ukraine holding out for so long, or for anybody not in his inner circle to spill the beans where Congress could hear before he got what wanted.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:43:30pm

Well I’m not gonna be a Bernie guy but got a text from Bernie campaign person. Not a robot, but when asked who I’m with now, I said Pete. HT real human outreach.

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BigPapa  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:44:48pm

re: #31 PhillyPretzel

And that is why Mueller said, “Read my report.”

Yeah, maybe. But Vol 1 showed the level of fuckery pulled by the Russians and Team Trump. There’s some serious issues that need to be addressed with the FEC and foreign interference. I got the feeling that Mueller was warning us about Russia and future elections.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:50:06pm

re: #34 BigPapa

Yes. And the new machines in Philly are on the suspect list. Both voters and those on the elections board must be careful.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:50:29pm

re: #25 sagehen

I’m guessing that Pompeo’s motivation is he wants Trump’s endorsement for his KS senate run.

But wouldn’t his West Point education have taught him that his first loyalty is to the nation? His desire for advancement clearly outweighs any scruples he may have. He is demonstrating that either he is a coward or, like Trump, cares only about his career and not about our country. Of course, it’s also possible, like others before him, that he believes that by cowering before this wannabe dictator he is protecting the nation from even worse.

If these members or former members of the Trump administration ever publicly came out and revealed what they know of Trump’s obeisance to Putin — they could succeed in actually bringing this traitor down but they may all be too compromised themselves to take this stand.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:54:02pm

I would really like to stay up a bit longer but I have to go to work tomorrow. I will again wish everyone a very Happy Hanukkah (or whatever holiday you wish to celebrate). Good Night to my fellow Lizards.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:54:36pm

re: #37 PhillyPretzel

Be well and same to you!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:57:21pm

cnn.com

Didn’t see this posted but John Lewis has stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Makes me sad for so many reasons.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2019 • 6:58:47pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

But wouldn’t his West Point education have taught him that his first loyalty is to the nation? His desire for advancement clearly outweighs any scruples he may have. He is demonstrating that either he is a coward or, like Trump, cares only about his career and not about our country. Of course, it’s also possible, like others before him, that he believes that by cowering before this wannabe dictator he is protecting the nation from even worse.

If these members or former members of the Trump administration ever publicly came out and revealed what they know of Trump’s obeisance to Putin — they could succeed in actually bringing this traitor down but they may all be too compromised themselves to take this stand.

Robert E Lee was a West Point superintendent. Belief in a radical ideology can make you ignore oaths. Most West Pointers are honorable men and women but there’s going to be Pompeos there too.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:02:45pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

Both Rick Perry and Louie Gohmert claim to still honor this oath:

An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal or tolerate those who do.

Oaths taken are not a reliable guide.

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CleverToad  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:03:09pm

re: #33 Rightwingconspirator

Well I’m not gonna be a Bernie guy but got a text from Bernie campaign person. Not a robot, but when asked who I’m with now, I said Pete. HT real human outreach.

I’ve also been texted recently by a real human with the Bernie campaign. I did politely tell her why he was very far down on my list (his long-standing pattern of questionable staff picks and endorsements, ex. Cenk). She didn’t have anything to counter, but did thank me for the opinion. Hope someone is collecting and analyzing the responses.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:03:59pm

re: #42 CleverToad

I’ve also been texted recently by a real human with the Bernie campaign. I did politely tell her why he was very far down on my list (his long-standing pattern of questionable staff picks and endorsements, ex. Cenk). She didn’t have anything to counter, but did thank me for the opinion. Hope someone is collecting and analyzing the responses.

I got texted too. Was a little weirded out tbh.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:04:51pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:06:02pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

cnn.com

Didn’t see this posted but John Lewis has stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Makes me sad for so many reasons.

Yes — Someone posted the announcement in prior thread. I personally know 4 people who were diagnosed with pancreatic cancer over the past 3 years. It certainly seems as though it is becoming more prevalent.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:17:14pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:19:13pm

Mainstream Media will continue to kiss Franky Graham Cracker’s ass while trashing this man.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:21:29pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:22:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:25:19pm

re: #45 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes — Someone posted the announcement in prior thread. I personally know 4 people who were diagnosed with pancreatic cancer over the past 3 years. It certainly seems as though it is becoming more prevalent.

My grandmother was diagnosed a month ago. It’s awful.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:27:33pm
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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:28:12pm

Watching a Russian historical drama, Godunov, on Amazon Prime.
Just saw a scene between Boris Godunov and the ghost of a Tsar who delivers a Trumpian insult:

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:29:01pm

Maybe he got it from all the Russians he’s been hanging with.

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danarchy  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:29:58pm

re: #45 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes — Someone posted the announcement in prior thread. I personally know 4 people who were diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. It certainly seems as though it is becoming more prevalent.

The other cancers that would normally get you sooner are being detected earlier and either treated or prevented(colon cancer, breast cancer etc.) If you live long enough there is a pretty good chance some sort of cancer is going to get you.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:32:58pm

re: #54 danarchy

The other cancers that would normally get you sooner are being detected earlier and either treated or prevented(colon cancer, breast cancer etc.) If you live long enough there is a pretty good chance some sort of cancer is going to get you.

Right. Just an inevitable thing unfortunately which is what we got told about my grandmother who is thirteen years older than Lewis.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:33:36pm

This Tweet wins The Internet

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:35:54pm

PERSON OF THE YEAR FINALIST!!!!

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Mattand  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:41:02pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

My grandmother was diagnosed a month ago. It’s awful.

My dad got diagnosed with it about 8 days before he passed away, although my working theory is that he knew he had it for a while and didn’t tell anyone. Rough stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:44:33pm

re: #58 Mattand

My dad got diagnosed with it about 8 days before he passed away, although my working theory is that he knew he had it for a while and didn’t tell anyone. Rough stuff.

It is tough. I try to talk to my grandmother daily even though she’s not always certain who I am.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:46:21pm

re: #57 jaunte

PERSON OF THE YEAR FINALIST!!!!

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We used to read about people like Trump running countries and wonder how does that happen? How does that endure? Needless to say, I get it now. It can happen anywhere.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:47:39pm

Impeached Like A Dog!

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:50:13pm

Donald Trump is the Robert Mugabe of Leonid Brezhnevs

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:50:35pm

Folks if you think Trump flipped out just wait till the next set of impeachment resolutions pass the House!

He ain’t gonna like being the first President impeached twice…or thrice…

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Mattand  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:52:13pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

It is tough. I try to talk to my grandmother daily even though she’s not always certain who I am.

Sorry to hear about your grandma. Hang in there.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:54:21pm

I don’t even know how I would explain Trump to someone unfamiliar with him. I mean Nixon. Yeah I laugh at Nixon but I also know Nixon wasn’t just a Futurama gag. Trump? We had an impeccably candidate against him but because people are irrational assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:55:11pm

re: #64 Mattand

Sorry to hear about your grandma. Hang in there.

Thanks. Been tough but I’m cherishing good memories.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2019 • 7:56:08pm

I mean yeah the Russian interference matters but it says a lot about our populace that enough people fell for this conman.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:03:17pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

I don’t even know how I would explain Trump to someone unfamiliar with him. I mean Nixon. Yeah I laugh at Nixon but I also know Nixon wasn’t just a Futurama gag. Trump? We had an impeccably candidate against him but because people are irrational assholes.

Hillary was vilified for years — and then the Benghazi hearings were designed specifically to bring down her approval ratings. It also didn’t help that too many of the Bernie my-way-or-the-highway fanatics refused to support her. Of course, ultimately we really don’t know whether the Russians or the Republican owners of the voting machine companies manipulated votes so that the results did not reflect votes cast.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:06:48pm

re: #68 Hecuba’s daughter

Hillary was vilified for years — and then the Benghazi hearings were designed specifically to bring down her approval ratings. It also didn’t help that too many of the Bernie my-way-or-the-highway fanatics refused to support her. Of course, ultimately we really don’t know whether the Russians or the Republican owners of the voting machine companies manipulated votes so that the results did not reflect votes cast.

I will NEVER forgive Comey and the crooks at the New York FBI office who conspired to do the last minute sabotage on Hillary. Ranks right up with Reagan conspiring to keep the hostages in Iran until after he got in and Nixon using Claire Chennault to sabotage the Paris Peace Talks and Harrold Wilson’s secret negotiations with the Russians.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:07:34pm

re: #68 Hecuba’s daughter

Hillary was vilified for years — and then the Benghazi hearings were designed specifically to bring down her approval ratings. It also didn’t help that too many of the Bernie my-way-or-the-highway fanatics refused to support her. Of course, ultimately we really don’t know whether the Russians or the Republican owners of the voting machine companies manipulated votes so that the results did not reflect votes cast.

I know, I know. I’m just trying to think how I’ll explain Trump to someone 25 years from now. Anyhow it’s a little of everything in the end. But that Trump had any appeal really was disturbing is my point.

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Disloyal Archangel  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:09:40pm

re: #16 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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That just infuriated me. I am so done with that lousy jackass.

(The Hebrew hashtags are “shut your damn mouth”, “delete your account” and “go straight to hell”)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:15:39pm

re: #71 Disloyal Archangel

That just infuriated me. I am so done with that lousy jackass.

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Disgusting CENSORED Jill Shill pushing that old fart.

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uriel  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:20:45pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I know some people might find Jason Mraz sappy. But I really like his music because it’s so artless. That’s really him, from everything I’ve heard - a genuinely good person.

You know, if you asked anyone I know, they’d tell you everything about my musical tastes stands in stark opposition to Jason Mraz.

Apart from the fact that I *really* like Jason Mraz.

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:23:40pm

Prince, man. He knew what a stupid joke talk shows were and still went on and had some fun. He is missed.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:25:51pm

“Fuck Cancer” is hardly a revolutionary sentiment but just after hearing this about Rep. Lewis, I got a message from my ex-long-term-GF that her uncle died yesterday evening from cancer(s) I didn’t even know he had. I don’t have a lot of contact with her or her family so the news was out of the blue.

After some digging I found his blog where he’s been writing about battling some really ugly business for almost two years now. His last post was on December 13 about a new treatment plan. Goddammit… He wasn’t elderly or unhealthy in habits. He was a generally technical/geeky guy, worked as a product development manager at a Japanese communications tech company, lifelong Star Trek fan, and just a general favorite of everyone who knew him (myself included).

Justice? Where?

re: #62 The Pie Overlord!

Donald Trump is the Robert Mugabe of Leonid Brezhnevs

Dollar Store Mussolini.

I generally stick to “Moscow Donnie” or “King Piggy” (“Piggy” for short) in conversation.

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sagehen  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:29:18pm

re: #45 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes — Someone posted the announcement in prior thread. I personally know 4 people who were diagnosed with pancreatic cancer over the past 3 years. It certainly seems as though it is becoming more prevalent.

I don’t think it’s any more common than it ever was; but about 10 years ago somebody invented a simple blood test for it before there’s any symptoms (and while there’s still time to treat it), so it’s become part of routine screening for patients over a certain age.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:32:36pm

coming up on 1/9/20, 18 years to the day Dad passed from a rare cancer that affected his platelets. Dr said that they had to consult medical databases to diagnose the cancer. According to Dr it could have been triggered either by asbestos or exposure to low level radiation from the Shippingport nuclear plant where Dad often did Boilermaker work.

Remember the last time I talked to Dad. He absolutely HATED Dumbya and he was continually getting in fights with the rest of the family who gladly slobbered over that ass. If he was here seeing what Shithead is doing he’d be marching on DC…

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Disloyal Archangel  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:32:39pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:34:03pm

Why they’re already preparing the Trump Presidential Library!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:35:25pm

re: #78 Disloyal Archangel

How about a landfill?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:41:42pm

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

How about a landfill?

An eternal dumpster fire given the computers, drives, and paper that will be burning as the administration leaves office.

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BigPapa  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:43:59pm

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

An eternal dumpster fire given the computers, drives, and paper that will be burning as the administration leaves office.

They should name foreign campaign finance laws or FARA violations after Trump.

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sagehen  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:44:27pm

re: #77 Joe Bacon 🌹

coming up on 1/9/20, 18 years to the day Dad passed from a rare cancer that affected his platelets. Dr said that they had to consult medical databases to diagnose the cancer. According to Dr it could have been triggered either by asbestos or exposure to low level radiation from the Shippingport nuclear plant where Dad often did Boilermaker work.

Remember the last time I talked to Dad. He absolutely HATED Dumbya and he was continually getting in fights with the rest of the family who gladly slobbered over that ass. If he was here seeing what Shithead is doing he’d be marching on DC…

The only kind of cancer that comes from asbestos makes for a very distinct x-ray; it’s a thing that can’t be caused by any other factor, and can’t be mistaken for any other disease.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:47:00pm
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sagehen  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:48:55pm

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

How about a landfill?

A swamp.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:50:26pm

re: #78 Disloyal Archangel

A Superfund site, for the most super of presidents.

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BigPapa  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:53:30pm

Sound on, show me your devil horned toad lizards

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 29, 2019 • 8:59:33pm

re: #87 BigPapa

Sound on, show me your devil horned toad lizards

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Oh crap. The sound from that just scared all the cats and they fled the room.

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:01:29pm

Florida Man outdoes himself.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:04:45pm

re: #78 Disloyal Archangel

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A free women’s public restroom in Harlem with him buried directly under the toilets. I want women of color relieving themselves on him… for eternity.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:04:47pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

They got me yesterday, but Snopes and Politifact say no.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:07:06pm

From last thread
Re: #175 Targetpractice

If the universe is just, John Lewis will live long enough to see Trump cuffed and stuffed into the back of a patrol car the moment he leaves the White House gates.

If the universe is just, trmp will die in prison after watching Michelle Obama interviewing a hale and hearty John Lewis on the teevee.

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teleskiguy  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:07:29pm

re: #91 jaunte

Drats!

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Jay C  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:13:56pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

Drats!

Inorite?
And weird as it is, it’s not so unimaginable that it might be real, because Florida….

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:14:49pm

re: #94 Jay C

Inorite?
And weird as it is, it’s not so unimaginable that it might be real, because Florida Evangelicals….

FTFY

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BigPapa  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:15:43pm

Fake But Accurate

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:16:56pm

re: #92 Jebediah, RBG

From last thread
Re: #175 Targetpractice

If the universe is just, John Lewis will live long enough to see Trump cuffed and stuffed into the back of a patrol car the moment he leaves the White House gates.

If the universe is just, trmp will die in prison after watching Michelle Obama interviewing a hale and hearty John Lewis on the teevee.

Unfortunately — as we well know — the universe is not just. A universe that gave us Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, Idi Amin is not just, at least based on our limited human understanding.

May John Lewis go into remission and grace Congress for many years to come.

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:34:56pm
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BigPapa  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:43:03pm

Ivanka Trump to be keynote speaker at Consumer Electronics Show

I haven’t been there for 20 years because it was a joke… now it’s a jokey joke.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:47:21pm

re: #89 teleskiguy

Florida Man outdoes himself.

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Snopes rates this as FALSE. Link below…

snopes.com

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:48:13pm

re: #79 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why they’re already preparing the Trump Presidential Library!

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The apostrophe abuse is just the perfect final touch.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 29, 2019 • 9:48:22pm

This was a crappy weekend. Needed a laugh before I hit the sack.

STYX - Don’t Sit Down On the Plexiglass Toilet

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Dread Pirate  Dec 29, 2019 • 10:02:00pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 29, 2019 • 10:20:08pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 29, 2019 • 10:45:51pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 29, 2019 • 10:47:03pm
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cattlady  Dec 29, 2019 • 11:48:59pm

re: #58 Mattand

Longtime lurker here. This is an oasis of sanity that I visit daily. I consider it the best comment section on the internet, and I enjoy being able to partake of some of the outrageous tweeting and commenting that goes on, as I don’t do the social media stuff. Especially love the animal posts.
As to pancreatic cancer, my husband of fifty years passed away unexpectedly in early November. He went into the hospital on Thursday, was diagnosed with metastatic pancreatic cancer with other organs, including liver, involved. Took him home on Saturday morning, and he died early Tuesday - five days after diagnosis. We had just returned from vacationing in Europe. He had been seen by three different oncologists in the six weeks before our trip, and no one noted anything out of the ordinary (for him) or counseled against the trip. He was being followed as he had been treated two years ago for a throat cancer, but had appeared to be clear. So, we don’t know if it was a met of that cancer or a new one. It was a mercy he went quickly, as he would not have accepted any treatment.

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CarolJ  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:00:03am

re: #107 cattlady

All I can say is condolences and hope you are holding up well. And it’s good your husband didn’t suffer.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:56:24am
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CarolJ  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:13:06am

re: #99 BigPapa

That will be the time everybody goes out to look at the newest usb gadget. She’s vapid even if she wasn’t evil, which she is.

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:39:03am

re: #109 Dread Pirate

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I’m so old, I remember when the Iraq War was going to last a few weeks, cost a couple hundred thousand, and would be paid for with the sale of Iraqi oil.

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steve_davis  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:44:15am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Right. Just an inevitable thing unfortunately which is what we got told about my grandmother who is thirteen years older than Lewis.

the goal is to live like my grandfather, who had two types of cancer but was so old that old age was going to kill him before the cancers did.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:10:42am
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:11:16am
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:12:30am

re: #7 Dread Pirate

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ah gmta

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:23:23am

re: #32 Targetpractice

what he never figured on was a casino losing money, steaks water and wine sucking, people expecting to be educated at a “university”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:23:41am

re: #79 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why they’re already preparing the Trump Presidential Library!

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The special collections should include the magazine used by Stormy Daniels to spank Donny (still rolled up)

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:25:23am

re: #79 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why they’re already preparing the Trump Presidential Library!

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Shouldn’t it be the Presidential Church of the Latter day Trumpsters?

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:31:31am

re: #114 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

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One of the lines that was floated in the last few hearings in the House by Repubs was that Trump was using the hold to “test” Zelensky and his commitment to rooting out corruption. The obvious idea was that this “defense” explained the multiple meetings that Trump had with his inner circle about the hold as them pleading Zelensky’s case, that they were working to assure him that the guy was “on the level.”

Between the emails/texts in the hearings and those obtained in recent weeks, it’s obvious that these meetings were not about convincing Trump about Zelensky…they were about getting him to release the hold because they realized it was illegal, realized that the conspiracy was unraveling, and wanted to get out of the whole mess before Congress caught wind.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:40:13am

re: #82 BigPapa

They should name foreign campaign finance laws or FARA violations after Trump.

“Donnie’s Law”

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:45:13am

re: #111 Targetpractice

I’m so old, I remember when the Iraq War was going to last a few weeks, cost a couple hundred thousand, and would be paid for with the sale of Iraqi oil.

and ‘We Will, In Fact, Be Greeted As Liberators’

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:48:29am

Nancy wakes up this morning
reads the new york times article and says
“Release the Kraken Articles”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:48:44am

re: #106 Dread Pirate

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Corrupt or in layman terms actually knows about policy and isn’t a Trump lackey like Rudy, Pompeo, Sondland, & Mulvaney were.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:59:46am
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:17:50am

You know, these QAnon nuts might actually be getting ready to pop off; I hate to say it, but it’s likely only a matter of time before the shit hits the fan.

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

That was floating around Voat.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:43:07am

re: #119 Targetpractice

One of the lines that was floated in the last few hearings in the House by Repubs was that Trump was using the hold to “test” Zelensky and his commitment to rooting out corruption. The obvious idea was that this “defense” explained the multiple meetings that Trump had with his inner circle about the hold as them pleading Zelensky’s case, that they were working to assure him that the guy was “on the level.”

Between the emails/texts in the hearings and those obtained in recent weeks, it’s obvious that these meetings were not about convincing Trump about Zelensky…they were about getting him to release the hold because they realized it was illegal, realized that the conspiracy was unraveling, and wanted to get out of the whole mess before Congress caught wind.

Which is why absolutely no one has testified

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:44:08am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Corrupt or in layman terms actually knows about policy and isn’t a Trump lackey like Rudy, Pompeo, Sondland, & Mulvaney were.

Corrupt or in trump terms won’t let me do what I want
;-)

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:44:54am

Greets and saluts from the soggy NYC metro area. I’ll take snow over rain, but if this rain was actually snow, we’d be talking about 1-2 feet of it. So, thanks but no thanks.

And at least the temps are warm enough to avoid freezing rain. Sullivan and Ulster Counties were looking at perhaps a half inch of ice from this storm, which means turning those counties into no-go zones.

So, the investigation into the Monsey stabbings at a Chabad House continues, and the alleged assailant apparently has a history of mental illness, and the family lawyer has called for him to get a pysch eval.

Of course, Rudy’s using the spate of attacks as a claim that DeBlasio has failed with policing. Ummm… NYC has seen a spike of hate crimes, which can be tied to Trumpists and Trump’s stochastic terrorism. Nationally, hate crimes have spiked under Trump, because he’s normalized the violence against minorities, and Trump has equated goddamned Nazis and KKK with the people protesting them.

That’s on Trump and the GOP. Even Rudy’s engaged in this bigotry by claiming he’s more of a Jew than a Jew who survived the Holocaust. Rockland County GOPers (the county where Monsey is located) have repeatedly posted anti-Semitic slurs and sought to limit Jewish community growth.

The GOP are completely debased.

Anti-Semitism isn’t limited to the GOP, but the loudest proponents that go unanswered from within the party are coming from the right. Trump has repeatedly quote-tweeted anti-Semitic and bigoted accounts dating back to 2016. Junior too. It’s who they are and what they believe. They are a white nationalist party and the GOP finds this acceptable since that’s who they think should be running things - hence the voter suppression efforts directed at persons of color.

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jeffreyw  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:45:08am

Woodpeckers Have Opinions

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:46:40am

And about that church shooting… that’s not a success. Only two people murdered. That’s what gun rights advocates consider a success? There’s a reason that the per capita gun death rate in the US is higher than every other OECD country. It’s the guns. It’s the easy availability of guns.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:54:43am

re: #130 lawhawk

And about that church shooting… that’s not a success. Only two people murdered. That’s what gun rights advocates consider a success? There’s a reason that the per capita gun death rate in the US is higher than every other OECD country. It’s the guns. It’s the easy availability of guns.

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It would have been over quicker if more parishioners had been armed and if the deacons had had submachine guns trained on the worshippers from the outset.

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:59:45am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Miniguns at the pulpit. Just what we need to keep everyone safe.

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:59:49am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:10:35am

My work buddy this morning.

My helper this morning
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:13:31am

We’re getting sleet right now in northern NE. It’ll likely get worse as the day goes on, so I asked my wife to see about changing a client meeting for this afternoon to tomorrow when it should shift over to rain (she has to drive about 40 miles round trip on country roads).

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:16:45am

re: #132 lawhawk

Miniguns at the pulpit. Just what we need to keep everyone safe.

And the lord said pass the Bazooka. And yeah not a success at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:19:26am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

And the lord said pass the Bazooka. And yeah not a success at all.

The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:21:06am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!

Our lady of the flamethrower. Blessed Francis on the MG.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:22:09am

Blessed are the Colt Peacemakers…

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:27:38am
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Stanley Sea  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:27:43am

re: #133 lawhawk

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Langoliers!!

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:29:05am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

And the lord said pass the Bazooka. And yeah not a success at all.

Bring me…. the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:29:22am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Blessed are the Colt Peacemakers…

So then I went and bought myself a Colt 45
Called a peacemaker but I never knew why
I never knew why, I didn’t understand
Mama says the pistol is the devil’s right hand
- Devil’s Right Hand, Steve Earle

Steve Earle - The Devil’s Right Hand

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:50:22am

I’m seeing a lot of tweets about a Sunday morning interview Ivanka did on CBS (aired yesterday, but was taped 10 days ago). I won’t watch it, but I gather she wasn’t asked about ethical issues or how her mandatory training in how to run a charity is going.

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:52:10am

re: #144 Barefoot Grin

Correctamundo.

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jaunte  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:59:44am
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jaunte  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:59:51am
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HappyWarrior  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:02:42am

re: #146 jaunte

Ivanka knows even less about defense budgets than her Dad does.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:04:33am
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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:06:59am

re: #147 jaunte

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:14:11am

The President* of the United States is retweeting GRU/IRA fake accounts & spread Russian propaganda. THREAD:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:14:34am

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:22:13am

re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹

Spot on…. and tweeted.

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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:24:30am

re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yeah, this really all about sums it up, don’t it?

Especially since all of them have jobs either directly in the Federal Gov’t or in ensuring that Trump profits off all the things he should have divested. All so the family grows richer in all the ways they shouldn’t.

Hunter Biden maybe got the Burisma job on the strength of name recognition? Meanwhile the Trump kids aid and abet what amounts to governmental embezzlement and profiteering…

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:27:49am

re: #150 lawhawk

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It’s just like with Veterans’ Choice. To the Trump faithful it’s simply fact that he “got it done” for Vets.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:31:55am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Trump is by far the worst President in my lifetime. Hands down. No competition. George Bush ‘43 was awful but not an in your face racist or a bully.

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plansbandc  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:36:00am

re: #133 lawhawk

Wow! Looks like art from a science fiction pulp novel.

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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:43:36am

Curious, that. Hrm.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:46:45am

re: #158 Citizen K

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Curious, that. Hrm.

I have noticed this, too.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:50:06am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:51:50am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:53:32am

re: #158 Citizen K

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Curious, that. Hrm.

Media has not figured out a way to blame both sides and especially Hillary as one of the reasons for it.
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jaunte  Dec 30, 2019 • 7:54:55am
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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:00:23am

re: #162 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Media has not figured out a way to blame both sides and especially Hillary as one of the reasons for it.
//

Well, Baquet and Baron yesterday did stress the need to continue to give Trump voters (and apparently only Trump voters) the continued respect that they deserve.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:00:53am

Calling BS on this one.

news.gallup.com
POLITICS
DECEMBER 30, 2019
Obama, Trump Tie as Most Admired Man in 2019

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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:02:40am

re: #165 Rightwingconspirator

Calling BS on this one.

news.gallup.com
POLITICS
DECEMBER 30, 2019
Obama, Trump Tie as Most Admired Man in 2019

Excuse me while I scream into the void in despair.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:06:07am
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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:06:45am

re: #158 Citizen K

Which is allowing the Right to claim it’s liberals, especially minorities.

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CarolJ  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:08:32am

re: #160 The Pie Overlord!

Similar to that guy who sent the bombs in late October 2018. Not a member either, but certainly attracted to toxic ideologies that pretend to explain why their lives are so disordered. And these days with the internet and some cable stations, they can immerse themselves in them in a way that wasn’t possible before to the point that what little connection they have to reality is gone. Add the lessened access to mental health services, and they are walking time bombs.

It doesn’t mean that they didn’t try to join something-but that even those groups were uneasy about making them formal members. Even with lessened memberships, these guys are too sick for them.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:08:58am

re: #165 Rightwingconspirator

Calling BS on this one.

news.gallup.com
POLITICS
DECEMBER 30, 2019
Obama, Trump Tie as Most Admired Man in 2019

In other words, Trump can’t beat a man whose time in office is fading into history.

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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:14:07am

re: #168 Belafon

Which is allowing the Right to claim it’s liberals, especially minorities.

Which is exactly the point. After all, ‘both sides same thing’, right?

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:16:40am

re: #165 Rightwingconspirator

Calling BS on this one.

news.gallup.com
POLITICS
DECEMBER 30, 2019
Obama, Trump Tie as Most Admired Man in 2019

So, once again we see right wing divorced from reality and putting party above all else.

They think Trump is admirable while everyone else still sees Obama as worthy of emulation.

Even GOPers in office know Trump isn’t someone to admire, so what’s going on here?

Blind loyalty and a cult of personality to Trump, even as he’s been impeached for felony conduct and high crimes.

Enough people think that’s admirable? Apparently so.

That’s as damning indictment of the right wing and GOP generally as anything else out there.

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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:17:24am

Predictably, the comments in the linked tweet are a fucking depressing mess.

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:17:27am

re: #165 Rightwingconspirator

Calling BS on this one.

news.gallup.com
POLITICS
DECEMBER 30, 2019
Obama, Trump Tie as Most Admired Man in 2019

This is what will burn wingnuts the most:

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Barack Obama and Donald Trump are tied this year as the most admired man. It is Obama’s 12th time in the top spot versus the first for Trump. Michelle Obama is the most admired woman for the second year in a row.

So yeah, Obama has been top spot 12 years running and Trump only manages to make the top of the list in the third year of his presidency.

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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:17:52am

re: #151 The Pie Overlord!

The President* of the United States is retweeting GRU/IRA fake accounts & spread Russian propaganda. THREAD:

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THAT was an extremely important thread! Wonder what Dan Scavino and Brad Parscale are doing for their money???

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:22:01am

re: #174 Targetpractice

This is what will burn wingnuts the most:

So yeah, Obama has been top spot 12 years running and Trump only manages to make the top of the list in the third year of his presidency.

They polled a bunch of people. 18% named Trump, 18% named Obama and the other 64% it seems named someone else or no one at all.

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:23:24am
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CarolJ  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:24:32am

re: #169 CarolJ

And I’m almost convinced that some groups manipulate the paranoid and mentally disturbed even if they aren’t members so that they can do the things they dare not do themselves. Someone who needs a friend or a guide falls in with similarly minded people, and they feed all of the toxic stuff to them.

And I think Trump has given them permission to fly their crazy flag as well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:26:04am
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:26:33am

re: #163 jaunte

‘his wonderful statement about me” me me me me

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jaunte  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:28:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:29:41am

re: #163 jaunte

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:32:52am

“we must confront the evil scourge of Anti-semitism”

- Dude who previously said that he “only likes guys with Yarmullkes counting my money”.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:33:02am
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jaunte  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:36:52am

re: #184 The Pie Overlord!

Twitter has given us all a fresh window on the conservative contempt for learning.

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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:37:08am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The absolute gall of this man is amazing.

What’s more amazing is the idea that he could get away with it.

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Teukka  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:39:23am

So… Found this on reddit

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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:45:53am

Well, this is par for the course but it’s still just amazing in a morbidly depressing way that this is their take. It always seems to come down to “immigrants is de devil!” to this administration.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:52:51am

re: #188 Citizen K

Well, this is par for the course but it’s still just amazing in a morbidly depressing way that this is their take. It always seems to come down to “immigrants is de devil!” to this administration.

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Who was president in ‘86? We need to string that fucker up for this?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:58:01am

re: #189 Eventual Carrion

Who was president in ‘86? We need to string that fucker up for this?

I see what you did there…

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:58:16am

re: #188 Citizen K

Well, this is par for the course but it’s still just amazing in a morbidly depressing way that this is their take. It always seems to come down to “immigrants is de devil!” to this administration.

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Wow, this must be a red-letter day for Ken. He can finally blame a major act of violence on an “illegal” rather than mumble thoughts and prayers for victims of “evil.”

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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 8:58:58am

re: #189 Eventual Carrion

Who was president in ‘86? We need to string that fucker up for this?

As if they’d lay anything they deem bad at the feet of Lord Reagan the 1st. It all had to be a Dem’s fault somehow.

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:01:42am

re: #189 Eventual Carrion

Weird how the sins of the father (who was granted amnesty) must mean that immigration policy must bend towards the right wing white nationalists.

Let’s just ignore the crime spree by the current WH occupant whose grandfather came here under false pretenses.

Let’s ignore that Trump has sought massive cuts to mental health funding.
Let’s ignore Trump has sought to eliminate Obamacare and its mental health coverage expansions.

Let’s ignore all that.

Let’s focus on the fact that Trump is a stochastic terrorist whose words and deeds encourage violence against minorities, including Jews.

Let’s focus on the fact that Trump’s policies and actions enable bigots and those who have mental illness to act on their violent impulses.

Let’s focus on the fact that the GOP is fine with all this.

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:08:11am

And in the grand tradition of conservative bravery, Sir Ken…has deleted the tweet.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:08:50am

re: #194 Targetpractice

And in the grand tradition of conservative bravery, Sir Ken…has deleted the tweet.

Unfortunately for him the Internet is forever.

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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:09:13am

re: #194 Targetpractice

And in the grand tradition of conservative bravery, Sir Ken…has deleted the tweet.

Knowing this administration, it was only for one minor typo fix that doesn’t change the underlying racism and batshittery.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:17:01am

Firenadoes all over Australia

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:17:38am

re: #193 lawhawk

The Republican Party is the Party of the Boys In The Hoods…

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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:18:53am

re: #181 jaunte

What OTHER such orders should we be looking for? What about those that blocked Lebanese aid? What about Puerto Rican aid?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:22:01am

re: #188 Citizen K

Sins of the father bullshit.

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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:35:47am

John Lewis Is Still Alive
The Civil Rights icon has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, but he needs no epitaph. Let’s not make a marble idol to our own consciences out of him. Charlie Pierce

What is it going to be like, I wonder, when the last of them goes, those American heroes who dared call Jefferson’s great bluff in the pulpits and the courts and in the streets? They have their heirs, no question about it. Bree Newsome. The Reverend William Barber, official preacher of this shebeen. The footsloggers of Black Lives Matter. They have their political successes: President Barack Obama, Senators Cory Booker and Kamala Harris. But having watched over the years as Dr. King’s memory has been sanded down and smoothed out and used as a balm on white America’s guilty conscience—Dr. King wasn’t “divisive”? Then why’d someone shoot him in his head?—I wonder whether or not the entire Civil Rights Movement, and the very organized backlash against it, all that blood and death and massive resistance, will be neutered in history the same way. But John Lewis is still alive.

… dammit, and that should be enough for now.

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Teukka  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:39:39am

re: #187 Teukka

Found some more goodies on reddit:

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:39:49am

re: #187 Teukka

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When I went to one of the local Mexican restaurants the other day, run and staffed by Latinos, there was an old man wearing that hat.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:53:00am

I joined X and The Gang on the latest Utah Outcasts podcasts where we saved this for the last and just goofed on it!

Coming this May, to a convention center of some kind in Orlando, Florida, the most repulsive and least self-aware men on the entire internet will come together to finally teach women a lesson.

A lesson in how to be the women of their dreams.

Yes! For the low, low price of $1,999 a ticket ($999 a ticket and a plus one if you act now!), you can learn all of the secrets to reeling in the kind of man who sits on YouTube all day whining about how women aren’t all barefoot and pregnant anymore. Men like Stefan Molyneux, Mike Cernovich, and organizer Anthony Dream Johnson (who claims he is the 1st President of the Manosphere), along with a bunch of other creepy dudes you’ve never even heard of and definitely have no interest in speaking to for more than five minutes, never mind marrying.

The conference is called The 22 Convention (We do not know why!) and features the tagline “Make Women Great Again.” According to the website, it is “destined to be the mansplaining event of the century.”

wonkette.com

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:58:44am

re: #204 Joe Bacon 🌹

Manosphere, a man used in thought experiments. He’s round, and operates in a vacuum.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:00:17am

re: #204 Joe Bacon 🌹

I may have a clue as to why it’s called the 22 Convention. On a site detailing terminology within Incel communities, I found this:

ER — The short form for Elliot Rodgers, who within the darker parts of the incel community is viewed as a martyr for the incel cause. In 2014, Rodger killed six people and injured 14 others near the University of California, Santa Barbara. In a video posted to YouTube before embarking on a shooting spree, Rodger explained that he intended to punish women for never having sex with him, calling himself “the perfect gentleman,” and lamenting the fact that he was still a virgin at 22. Referred to sometimes as Saint Elliot, The Cut writes: “His likeness has inspired countless memes that straddle the line between lulzy irony and utter sincerity (one widely circulated picture depicts him as a literal saint, his face Photoshopped into a religious painting).”

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:07:34am
“Honestly, I don’t think I would have said anything because obviously he’s not listening to scientists and experts, so why would he listen to me?”

— Teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg, quoted by NBC News, on what she would say to President Trump.

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plansbandc  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:15:38am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:21:17am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:27:10am

See comment #151

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:32:00am
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Teddy's Person  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:36:48am

In Trump’s GOP, it’s every man/woman for themselves. Color me shocked.

Rep. Mark Meadows’ shock retirement — revealed just 30 hours before the filing deadline in North Carolina — has roiled some Republicans in the state who suspect he timed his announcement to benefit a friend of his wife.

Later that day came a campaign launch by Lynda Bennett, a local GOP activist and real estate agent who is friendly with Debbie Meadows, the congressman’s wife, according to sources who know both women.

Online records revealed her campaign website domain had been registered on Oct. 28 by a Scott Meadows, who appears to be the brother of the congressman. The campaign’s Facebook page was created on Dec. 18, a day before the retirement. And shortly after midnight on Dec. 19 — about five hours before Meadows announced — Bennett posted photos of herself with the congressman and his wife at local GOP events in the state. Source

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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:45:38am

re: #211 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

That’s what I’m afraid of. What ELSE is going on!!??

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:47:23am

re: #213 retired cynic

That’s what I’m afraid of. What ELSE is going on!!??

Plenty of the most fucked up, corrupt shit you could imagine, I’m sure.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:53:08am

re: #214 Eclectic Cyborg

Plenty of the most fucked up, corrupt shit you could imagine, I’m sure.

I know a few people in the “fuck you, I’ve got mine” crowd who are fine with this sort of thing because it is exactly what they would do if they were in position to do so.

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:56:22am
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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:58:29am

re: #216 lawhawk

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No shit, this is the sort of stunt that anti-SLAPP laws were written to address.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 10:58:58am

UPDATE | Gov. Justice approves firings over controversial Nazi salute photo

CHARLESTON, W. Va. (WSAZ) - UPDATE 12/30/19 @ 11 a.m.
Gov. Jim Justice is approving firings after reviewing the report on the Division of Corrections (DCR) academy Class 18.

Justice released on Monday that he is approving the recommendations submitted by Department of Military Affairs and Public Safety (DMAPS) Secretary Jeff Sandy to fire all cadets involved in the picture.

Justice also approved the firing of one additional staff member. According to the recommendations, that member didn’t report the content of the class photograph. According to the release, this is the third instructor fired from the incident.

Four additional academy instructors who knew about the picture were also suspended without pay.

The photo was taken in November and handed out to attendees at the division’s Nov. 27 graduation ceremony.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:10:35am
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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:14:41am

A Q-Nut responded with a link to a 400+ page Pro Trump/Pro QAnon paper for anyone interested in a deep dive
AMERICA’S POLITICAL PARADIGM SHIFT
Thesis, King’s College London, 2019
Rachel Wyman, Ph.D.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:18:32am
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jaunte  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:23:57am

Despite Trump’s constant trumpeting of his amazing Electoral College win. Maybe 42% of Republicans don’t know what the EC is?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:23:57am
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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:28:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:29:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:30:50am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:31:43am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

UPDATE | Gov. Justice approves firings over controversial Nazi salute photo

This shows that Nazis can be influenced by something other than brute force (satisfying though that response is). Taking their livelihood and money also works. I seriously doubt that much else (logic, reason, ethics etc.) will though.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:36:00am

re: #227 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This shows that Nazis can be influenced by something other than brute force (satisfying though that response is). Taking their livelihood and money also works. I seriously doubt that much else (logic, reason, ethics etc.) will though.

Goons? What goons? Mobile PD “Homeless Quilt”

al.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:40:25am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:41:15am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

God, this is so fucked up.

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jaunte  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:43:46am

re: #228 Decatur Deb

Always Be Punching Down

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:45:42am

re: #228 Decatur Deb

Goons? What goons? Mobile PD “Homeless Quilt”

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FEMA camp looks better all the time, especially with all the new facilities that will be available once Trump and Miller are gone.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:47:22am

re: #232 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

FEMA camp looks better all the time, especially with all the new facilities that will be available once Trump and Miller are gone.

I’m not working to make Alabama better—I’m trying to keep the rest of you from becoming Alabama.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:54:44am

no, Joe.

Just. No.

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2019 • 11:56:53am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

no, Joe.

Just. No.

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OFFS

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Dread Pirate  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:01:41pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:02:26pm

re: #235 Targetpractice

OFFS

THIS

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:05:41pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

no, Joe.

Just. No.

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The last time a President chose a running mate from another party it did not work out well (assuming that was Lincoln/Johnson) CMIIW

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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:06:29pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

no, Joe.

Just. No.

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This is exactly my worry with Biden. He seems way too tempted to give the GOP an inch for conciliation’s sake even when it’s clear the GOP will never return the favor. And I’m honestly not sure how much that actually plays to the ‘moderate’ crowd in a way that secures votes either.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:08:27pm

re: #239 Citizen K

This is exactly my worry with Biden. He seems way too tempted to give the GOP an inch for conciliation’s sake even when it’s clear the GOP will never return the favor. And I’m honestly not sure how much that actually plays to the ‘moderate’ crowd in a way that secures votes either.

The Democratic president after next can afford to be a unifier.

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stpaulbear  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:10:13pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

no, Joe.

Just. No.

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He’d be asking for instant impeachment.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:11:07pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

no, Joe.

Just. No.

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Zombie Teddy Roosevelt.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:11:18pm

re: #241 stpaulbear

He’d be asking for instant impeachment.

Or a crazed person assassination. I put nothing past these fuckers anymore.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:12:59pm

re: #243 Eventual Carrion

Autocorrect.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:17:22pm

re: #239 Citizen K

This is exactly my worry with Biden. He seems way too tempted to give the GOP an inch for conciliation’s sake even when it’s clear the GOP will never return the favor. And I’m honestly not sure how much that actually plays to the ‘moderate’ crowd in a way that secures votes either.

i am totally guessing on this and have been all along - so take with a barrel of salt…

- i think all his reach across the aisle talk is totally a calculated campaign tactic
- ‘consider’. no, he’d never do it
- he’s trying to convince some/enough r’s that he’s reasonable so as to get their votes.

i do not believe for a second either he or anyone on his staff is naive about what he’d be up against with a Mcconnell senate and how he’d actually have to govern

just one Danger’s opinion

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:19:24pm

re: #244 Decatur Deb

Autocorrect.

Yeah, thanks fixed it

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HypnoToad  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:19:46pm

re: #243 Eventual Carrion

Or a crazed person assignation. I put nothing past these fuckers anymore.

I don’t recommend those crazed person assignations; they often turn into stalkers and can be hard to ditch.

Edit: Didn;t see your #244.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:21:51pm

Another suggestion: the Mueller Report.

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:24:35pm

Nothing like an end of December thunderstorm in the NYC metro area…. because that’s so normal.

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:25:12pm

re: #245 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

i am totally guessing on this and have been all along - so take with a barrel of salt…

- i think all his reach across the aisle talk is totally a calculated campaign tactic
- ‘consider’. no, he’d never do it
- he’s trying to convince some/enough r’s that he’s reasonable so as to get their votes.

i do not believe for a second either he or anyone on his staff is naive about what he’d be up against with a Mcconnell senate and how he’d actually have to govern

just one Danger’s opinion

Fair point. Would he consider such an unlikely scenario? Sure, just as I consider all the time what I’d do if I won the Redneck Retirement Fund (aka: Mega Millions Jackpot). Besides the fact that I rarely play, the odds that I’d win are so astronomically opposed that I’d save time just burning my money instead. But would I consider donating the entire thing to charity if I should win? Sure, I suppose I’d consider it.

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:25:22pm

re: #245 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

Possible. Probable even. However we cannot afford to take that risk; we cannot allow him to become the candidate as a result.

What we need is someone who will say that the Republicans and the Russians are an united existential threat to the nation and cannot be allowed to win again. Honestly I’ll vote for anyone who calls Russian interference in the election process what it is: an Act of War.

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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:34:49pm

re: #251 William Lewis

We cannot allow him to become the candidate?

That sounds a bit… authoritarian.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:36:15pm

re: #252 retired cynic

We cannot allow him to become the candidate?

That sounds a bit… authoritarian.

Sounds to me like the electorate doing what the electorate does. Did you think it was Biden’s choice?

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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:38:04pm

re: #253 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Sounds to me like the electorate doing what the electorate does. Did you think it was Biden’s choice?

If the electorate chooses someone else, that’s fine. He was not first on my list. At this point, no one is really ringing my bells. But Vote Blue No Matter Who is my motto!

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:38:04pm

We don’t have any great candidates. Sorry. Joe needs help but he’s just differentially flawed compared to Warren and Sanders, not worse.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:39:06pm

re: #251 William Lewis

Possible. Probable even. However we cannot afford to take that risk; we cannot allow him to become the candidate as a result.

What we need is someone who will say that the Republicans and the Russians are an united existential threat to the nation and cannot be allowed to win again. Honestly I’ll vote for anyone who calls Russian interference in the election process what it is: an Act of War.

i can see, based on his age and experience why he might think it’s a viable campaign strategy. And i dont think in and of itself it turns away any general election dem voters. (and i’m not defending the man per se.)

meanwhile what you’re suggesting is also a quite viable campaign strategy.

i’m good with both / either. i’m a libra.

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:41:40pm

re: #253 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

Sounds to me like the electorate doing what the electorate does. Did you think it was Biden’s choice?

We Allow what we do by our actions. If we do not get the votees, we Allow the Mango Moron to continue to make us a puppet state of the Russian Federation. Likewise if we pick a candidate who has shown us reasons to not trust his judgment.

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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:46:49pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:52:54pm

re: #255 goddamnedfrank

We don’t have any great candidates. Sorry. Joe needs help but he’s just differentially flawed compared to Warren and Sanders, not worse.

they are all flawed if you drill down too much or use only an issue or two for comparison.

would you vote for this guy? From electoral-vote.com 191225, i cut it all down:

- democratic opponents attack him for supporting too many Republican ideas
- from the left, criticism that he’s too much a part of “the system”
- From the right, not being sufficiently Christian and for being out of touch
- Also from the right, he was flayed for being too liberal by GOP members Senate.
- a very sizable number of high-profile verbal gaffes on YouTube
- accused of plagiarism
- nearly 40% of voters said they don’t think he’s qualified to be president. More than a third of Democratic respondents said he’s their least-favorite Democratic candidate.
- there are also the questions about his age, and whether he’s outside the window where one can be an effective president.

yep - Barack Obama 2008

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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 12:56:38pm

Make No Mistake. Edward Gallagher Will Be a Star of the Republican Presidential Campaign.
The president* is going to use him as a representative of The Troops. by Charlie Pierce

Make no mistake. Edward Gallagher is going to be a star of the upcoming Republican presidential campaign. The president* is going to use him as a representative of The Troops, and as an antidote to his own contempt for military personnel who are as revolted by him as any decent human being would be. Gallagher is going to be the anti-Khizr Khan. He is going to appear at presidential* events. I make him even money to speak at the 2020 Republican National Convention. Edward Gallagher is going to be the symbol of the U.S. military and there’s nobody in the GOP who can stop this from happening.

Nice job, gang.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:01:54pm

re: #251 William Lewis

Possible. Probable even. However we cannot afford to take that risk; we cannot allow him to become the candidate as a result.

What we need is someone who will say that the Republicans and the Russians are an united existential threat to the nation and cannot be allowed to win again. Honestly I’ll vote for anyone who calls Russian interference in the election process what it is: an Act of War.

It’s ok to appeal to the ideal that we’re one people as long as we don’t let it allow Republicans to stop necessary legislation. One of the things Democrats are going to have to do a good job of is selling that legislation is for everyone.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:02:27pm

Don’t worry, Trump knows all about the cyber, more than the experts even.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:04:13pm

re: #260 retired cynic

Trump/Gallagher 2020

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makeitstop  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:05:12pm

re: #248 Teddy’s Person

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Another suggestion: the Mueller Report.

Her oath of office.

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sagehen  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:16:31pm

re: #238 The Pie Overlord!

The last time a President chose a running mate from another party it did not work out well (assuming that was Lincoln/Johnson) CMIIW

It happened tthis season on Madame Secretary… and yeah, it caused problems. Her VP’s former house colleagues were incredibly eager to impeach her, starting on day one, for completely made up reasons, so that he could become pres.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:21:39pm

Wasn’t McCain considering Joe Lieberman for the VP slot in 2008 at one point? And then was essentially told to take Palin or risk losing all the evangelicals.

Though Lieberman was acting very quasi-Democrat at that time as well.

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sagehen  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:23:33pm

re: #265 sagehen

It happened tthis season on Madame Secretary… and yeah, it caused problems. Her VP’s former house colleagues were incredibly eager to impeach her, starting on day one, for completely made up reasons, so that he could become pres.

p.s. — the inquiry got shut down post-haste, only one vote for it in committee. Because Elizabeth McCord was very, very good at her job, and people took to the streets in the millions to support her.

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lawhawk  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:25:51pm

The Newt misinformation network continues spewing nonsense - the War on Christians continues.

Christians aren’t under siege. They’re the dominant religious group in much of the world. They dunk on every other religious group within their sphere of influence, and these nutters think that anyone critical of them means that they’re the ones being discriminated against all while Christian fundamentalists are busy trying to impose their views and theology on everyone else.

Trump and other right wingers are more than happy to exploit this.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:32:51pm

re: #268 lawhawk

There may be a war against Christians in majority Muslim countries. That I wouldn’t deny given what has happened in countries like Pakistan for example. There is no war against Christians in western democracies, however, which is the lie Gingrich and his ilk try to push on us

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:36:02pm

re: #268 lawhawk

The Newt misinformation network continues spewing nonsense - the War on Christians continues.

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Christians aren’t under siege. They’re the dominant religious group in much of the world. They dunk on every other religious group within their sphere of influence, and these nutters think that anyone critical of them means that they’re the ones being discriminated against all while Christian fundamentalists are busy trying to impose their views and theology on everyone else.

Trump and other right wingers are more than happy to exploit this.

Newt is so sad because he can’t find another mistress on Adult Friend Finder!

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:37:29pm

re: #260 retired cynic

Democrats should ask the military personnel/officers who testified against Gallagher to rally for our candidate then. They were the ones who spoke out against his criminal conduct so they would be his best critics.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:40:03pm

re: #271 Patricia Kayden

Democrats should ask the military personnel/officers who testified against Gallagher to rally for our candidate then. It was them who spoke out against his criminal conduct so they would be his best critics.

Violation of the Hatch Act if they are still active duty!

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:45:20pm

This person (“Thames Darwin”) claims to be a “Holocaust scholar and researcher” and he posts anti-Semitic shit like this. Holocaust deniers call themselves “scholars”

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:46:59pm

re: #272 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well then call them to testify at a House hearing into the pardon.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:50:51pm

Ahh, I just checked “Thames Darwin” timeline. He’s an asshole who spewed a whole bunch of anti-Semitic bullshit and got called out on it.

Blockbait.

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BigPapa  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:51:23pm

Which one of you are Ron? Jerk.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:54:35pm

re: #272 Joe Bacon 🌹

Violation of the Hatch Act if they are still active duty!

More importantly, violation of the UCMJ.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:58:13pm

re: #276 BigPapa

Which one of you are Ron? Jerk.

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I just watched that 10x and I’m not going to stop!

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Jay C  Dec 30, 2019 • 1:58:23pm

I’m going to start by saying it really shouldn’t be taken in any way to diminish the heinousness of the Monsey Hanukkah machete attack, but it’s starting to look like the perp is just your common or garden-variety nutcase: (via TPM):

Reverend Wendy Paige, who the Post said was Thomas’ pastor of 10 years, said Thomas “is not a terrorist, he is a man who has mental illness in America and the systems that be have not served him well.” Reports have identified previous arrests on Thomas’ record including for menacing and punching a police horse.

No record on whether or not the horse pressed charges…

I know it’s a “fraught issue” as they say, but while the Monsey attack targeted Jews, it’s hard to see this (at least from available evidence so far) as the case of “antisemitic terrorism” so many public figures seem to want to make it into*. It’s another issue entirely why Grafton Thomas - mental history notwithstanding - seems to have just suddenly snapped and driven all the way to Monsey to hack up Hasidim apparently out of the blue. And unfortunately, I’m thinking we’re probably unlikely to find out.

*Though TBH, it’s an issue better overstated than understated, IMO: you really don’t want to encourage copycats, or give out the impression these incidents aren’t taken seriously.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:00:30pm

The problem with Eddie Gallagher is that he got a taste for murdering civilians and the helpless and he liked it. He liked it and has now been rewarded for it, thrust into the limelight as one of Trump’s champions.

I doubt he’s done.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:00:46pm

I won’t mention it again, but there’s still outrage about the Ivanka interview on Face the Nation yesterday. For me, it made me think of Frank Burns’ famous quote: “it’s nice to be nice…to the nice.”

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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:01:43pm
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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:02:34pm

re: #279 Jay C

I suspect that while he was mentally unstable, he still had full access to the internet and the antisemitism he saw fed part of his brain.

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BigPapa  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:06:21pm

re: #278 Barefoot Grin

I just watched that 10x and I’m not going to stop!

I can’t watch it, I have work to do.

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William Lewis  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:09:31pm

re: #280 goddamnedfrank

The problem with Eddie Gallagher is that he got a taste for murdering civilians and the helpless and he liked it. He liked it and has now been rewarded for it, thrust into the limelight as one of Trump’s champions.

I doubt he’s done.

IF I were CC’ing and ran into him, I’d be very tempted to just shoot first and claim he was a threat under “Stand your Ground” doctrine. It would not be safe to wait with a thug like him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:12:48pm

my surprise…

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Decatur Deb  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:14:02pm

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

Starting to look like a China trade agreement.

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:15:09pm

re: #280 goddamnedfrank

The problem with Eddie Gallagher is that he got a taste for murdering civilians and the helpless and he liked it. He liked it and has now been rewarded for it, thrust into the limelight as one of Trump’s champions.

I doubt he’s done.

The bit that sticks out to me the most wasn’t that he was shooting civilians and casually remarking to other snipers that he’d hit the ones they “missed” with their warning shots, but that he expressed a willingness to put them in harm’s war in order to increase his chances of winning a silver star. Put that together with his response to the story, which is that they’re all a bunch of weaklings who ratted him out because they were afraid to fight, and you’ve got another William Calley.

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makeitstop  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:15:18pm

re: #287 Decatur Deb

Starting to look like a China trade agreement.

Or de-nuclearlization.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:16:12pm
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Citizen K  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:18:19pm

re: #288 Targetpractice

The bit that sticks out to me the most wasn’t that he was shooting civilians and casually remarking to other snipers that he’d hit the ones they “missed” with their warning shots, but that he expressed a willingness to put them in harm’s war in order to increase his chances of winning a silver star. Put that together with his response to the story, which is that they’re all a bunch of weaklings who ratted him out because they were afraid to fight, and you’ve got another William Calley.

The fact that he’s a psychopath is bad enough. Trump personally going to bat for him is a demonstration that he wants our military to take after Gallagher’s example. he wants our Armed Forces to be filled with these kinds of war criminals. That’s the message he’s sending. And it’s no surprise that we seem to be having an even more significant white supremacist influx in said Armed Forces as of late.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:18:23pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Better look carefully at his VP pick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:20:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:20:31pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:23:14pm

re: #271 Patricia Kayden

Democrats should ask the military personnel/officers who testified against Gallagher to rally for our candidate then. They were the ones who spoke out against his criminal conduct so they would be his best critics.

there is no need to ‘counter’ this

he’s dishonored, court-martialed, and convicted
he’s got notoriety because he got pardoned. had to get pardoned

not because of a miscarriage of justice or the ‘deep state’
never once said ‘i didnt do it’

let him and trump have their ignominy.

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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:24:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:25:35pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:26:17pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

So the asshole is finally well enough to golf again, huh?

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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:26:49pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:29:26pm

I get angry at Comey at times, he made a few fatal mistakes in 2016 that have altered US history in profound ways. But when I was reading the comments to this thread I was reminded that Obama’s AG at the time had recused herself because she met with a candidate’s husband for 15 minutes when their planes were near each other on a tarmac. There was no “super-ego” over Comey’s ego.

Edited: sorry, forgot that I was thinking of Comey because of this:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:30:44pm

re: #300 Barefoot Grin

I get angry at Comey at times, he made a few fatal mistakes in 2016 that have altered US history in profound ways. But when I was reading the comments to this thread I was reminded that Obama’s AG at the time had recused herself because she met with a candidate’s husband for 15 minutes when their planes were near each other on a tarmac. There was no “super-ego” over Comey’s ego.

Ah, for the days when we still had government officials who gave a shit about Ethics.

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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:30:59pm

re: #300 Barefoot Grin

Which should have never been such a THING.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:32:26pm

not one speck of originality

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Targetpractice  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:33:00pm

re: #295 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

there is no need to ‘counter’ this

he’s dishonored, court-martialed, and convicted
he’s got notoriety because he got pardoned. had to get pardoned

not because of a miscarriage of justice or the ‘deep state’
never once said ‘i didnt do it’

let him and trump have their ignominy.

That right there is probably what resonated with Cheeto more than anything, that he was not denying his actions but instead proud of them. And that his entire defense strategy was to whine about the process.

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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:34:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:34:59pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:35:20pm

Hmm, since Gallagher was reinstated he’s not allowed to speak while wearing uniform, right? So for a Trump rally he’s just another white guy in a suit speaking about patriotism, blah, blah, blah.

If they go in details about who he is and what Trump did for him I don’t see that as an attractive optic. It’ll play with the base, but that’s no surprise.

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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:36:03pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:36:58pm

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 191229 edition and damage report ———————->

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:39:18pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:44:03pm

re: #304 Targetpractice

That right there is probably what resonated with Cheeto more than anything, that he was not denying his actions but instead proud of them. And that his entire defense strategy was to whine about the process.

and dems dont need to counter an unrepentant, virtually admitted, convict - pardoned or not

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:44:48pm

re: #305 gocart mozart

d’sousa is a crackpot
treat him accordingly

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makeitstop  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:54:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 2:55:54pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:02:13pm

re: #313 makeitstop

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I lived in south-central Indiana for many years and got to know a couple of folk in LE. Their take was that over the generations most of the local LEO could count as many criminal cousins. It was sort of “you gonna become a deputy or sell dope?” I’d guess there’s not much difference in that part of WV.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:04:47pm
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BeachDem  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:08:58pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Meanwhile…

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piratedan  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:10:20pm

re: #259 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

don’t worry about the Joe quote because it’s been posted without the usual context to get us all pissed off…

In short, someone from the Press Corp asked Biden if he would consider a GOP running mate, in theory… Biden essentially said… sure, find me a reasonable Republican to run with and asked for a suggestion as to who that would be….

needless to say, no names were forthcoming..

so… they got maximum outrage for taking what Biden said… out of context without offering Biden’s observation that currently there aren’t any reasonable Republican legislators currently in existence who are stepping up and making themselves known.

So, I am slowly getting the idea that yeah, even Joe gets it and the usual reporting is just more fouth estate ratfucking cherry picking quotes for publication for maximum outrage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:11:43pm
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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:18:36pm

re: #313 makeitstop

Don’t blur their faces. It’s going to require a lot of vigilance to keep them from being hired in police departments, and it may take a few people recognizing them to get them fired after the fact.

Edit: I know you didn’t do it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:20:30pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:41:55pm

Ok, I guess I’m obsessed with keeping this family away from power after dad….

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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:45:00pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:47:34pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:49:58pm

Heaven help us if Ivanka ever becomes President. This country is fucking doomed if we elect a Trump three times in a row.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:50:54pm

re: #324 gocart mozart

(Almost) Every woman in the US bought a ticket to see Titanic. OK, not quite but it became the number one movie on sales to women. Why didn’t these women going to see Little Women?

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:51:57pm

re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg

Heaven help us if Ivanka ever becomes President. This country is fucking doomed if we elect a Trump three times in a row.

That you don’t have to worry about.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:52:10pm

re: #327 Belafon

(Almost) Every woman in the US bought a ticket to see Titanic. OK, not quite but it became the number one movie on sales to women. Why didn’t these women going to see Little Women?

I’m every woman! Ok, I’m not even one woman. But I’m going to see Little Women.

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gocart mozart  Dec 30, 2019 • 3:52:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:03:06pm
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makeitstop  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:09:30pm

More good news for Preznit Fuckmook.

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jeffreyw  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:12:01pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s in the running! Then there is the one where the guy asks David Simon, “Have you ever watched The Wire?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:15:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:18:03pm
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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:18:59pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Charmingly Persistent  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:20:29pm

re: #327 Belafon

(Almost) Every woman in the US bought a ticket to see Titanic. OK, not quite but it became the number one movie on sales to women. Why didn’t these women going to see Little Women?

I kind of hated the book. Jo ends up marrying this guy who shames her for her writing. Even 12 year old me was like “fuck that guy.”

Can’t speak for any other women …

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Charmingly Persistent  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:21:37pm

re: #338 Charmingly Persistent

A person doesn’t have to use spoiler tags for a 150 year old book, right?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:24:00pm
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jaunte  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:27:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:29:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:33:32pm
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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:35:45pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

We always have had possums and raccoons come in to eat with the cats. I still do. We used to catch them and haul them away, across a creek or two, and turn them loose. Now I just let ‘em eat.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:36:47pm

re: #344 retired cynic

We always have had possums and raccoons come in to eat with the cats. I still do. We used to catch them and haul them away, across a creek or two, and turn them loose. Now I just let ‘em eat.

Our outdoor kitteh will chase off raccoons that come to eat her food. If she’s off hunting, I generally don’t care if they stay and eat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:40:36pm
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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:45:07pm

re: #339 Charmingly Persistent

A person doesn’t have to use spoiler tags for a 150 year old book, right?

I don’t think spoiler tags need to be used for anything over a year old. That gives movies time to get through the theater and onto DVD.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:48:18pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m pretty sure the East Room isn’t big enough for the entire Executive branch, but it sure is a purdy simplification of how the Executive would actually work, Mike.

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plansbandc  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:48:22pm

tRump followers remind me of the Flagg followers in The Stand.

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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:50:37pm

re: #348 Belafon

I’m pretty sure the East Room isn’t big enough for the entire Executive branch, but it sure is a purdy OVER-simplification of how the Executive would actually work, Mike.

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Belafon  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:52:24pm

re: #350 retired cynic

Thanks. That was what I was trying to indicate, but it didn’t pop into my head.

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Jay C  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:53:17pm

re: #348 Belafon

I’m pretty sure the East Room isn’t big enough for the entire Executive branch, but it sure is a purdy simplification of how the Executive would actually work, Mike.

Yeah: Mike would being doing a hell of a lot more good going back to his open-plan office, and figuring out a plan to implement.a comprehensive 50-state GOTV and election-security campaign: it probably wouldn’t cost any more than his current vanity project: and would help the country out in the meantime…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:53:37pm
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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:54:25pm

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 30, 2019 • 4:57:39pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:03:10pm

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

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re: #354 retired cynic

OMG!

Our future.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:03:20pm
“It no longer feels as though the most powerful human on the planet is after you. It feels as though a strange and slightly sad old guy is yelling at you to get off his lawn, echoed by younger but no less sad people in red hats shouting, ‘Yeah, get off his lawn!’”

— Former FBI Director James Comey, writing in the Washington Post, describing President Trump as a “shrunken, withered figure.”

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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:05:46pm

re: #357 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

— Former FBI Director James Comey, writing in the Washington Post, describing President Trump as a “shrunken, withered figure.”

That’s the way to hit him where it hurts!

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Dread Pirate  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:06:00pm
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jaunte  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:15:35pm
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retired cynic  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:17:45pm

re: #360 jaunte

WTAF????

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:37:40pm

re: #326 Eclectic Cyborg

Heaven help us if Ivanka ever becomes President. This country is fucking doomed if we elect a Trump three times in a row.

What kills me is how the Pulpit Pimps are coalescing behind Ivanka for a 2024 run!

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 30, 2019 • 5:37:55pm

re: #347 Belafon

I don’t think spoiler tags need to be used for anything over a year old. That gives movies time to get through the theater and onto DVD.

Disagree. Classics are being rediscovered by new generations all the time, and they deserve to be surprised.

(That said, I don’t think a reason for disliking Jo March’s taste in men is much of a spoiler.)

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mmmirele  Dec 30, 2019 • 6:02:27pm

re: #338 Charmingly Persistent

I kind of hated the book. Jo ends up marrying this guy who shames her for her writing. Even 12 year old me was like “fuck that guy.”

Can’t speak for any other women …

Another woman here…

I didn’t read “Little Women” as a girl because I just wasn’t into it. My favorite fiction book as a kid was “Harriet the Spy,” which is pretty far from “Little Women.” I’d note that “Harriet the Spy” gave me a weird look on upper-class New York City in the 1960s. I’m still amazed it got published because it is so incredibly subversive. What other book has an adult character tell the central kid character “sometimes you have to lie”?

But for comfort books, books I’d check out of the library when I just wanted to do some comfort reading, those were the astronomy books. Every single time. And yes, I know I’m weird.

I did read “Little Women” as an adult but it wasn’t like something I just loved. Just like I saw Titanic one time and took away from it how insane the class differences were. There’s a scene where Rose’s mother is helping her dress, lacing her into a corset and basically telling her she has to marry the creepy guy because their finances require it. Mom is so emphatic she laces Rose VERY tight. I’m pretty sure that’s not what James Cameron wanted me to get out of it, but I did.

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uriel  Dec 30, 2019 • 9:18:16pm

re: #349 plansbandc

tRump followers remind me of the Flagg followers in The Stand.

I tend towards Greg Stillson.

Same glorification of ignorance, same fervent appeal to the worst in us, same catastrophic legacy.

Unfortunately, we seem to be out of quirky, vocally dissonant psychics to save us.


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