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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 31, 2019 • 10:39:29am

I see that 2019 is going to end about the way it started. I’m hoping for a 2020 with less trump and a little more sanity.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 10:41:54am

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

I see that 2019 is going to end about the way it started. I’m hoping for a 2020 with less trump and a little more sanity.

Less Trump, Putin, Bibi, Johnson, Orban, & the rest of the autocratic and autocratic aspiring assholes.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 31, 2019 • 10:50:55am

There. Is. No. Motherfucking. Southern. White. House.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 31, 2019 • 10:52:22am

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

I see that 2019 is going to end about the way it started. I’m hoping for a 2020 with less trump and a little more sanity.

I hope so too, but unfortunately it looks like 2020 is going to be an order of magnitude worse.

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 31, 2019 • 10:54:30am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I hope so too, but unfortunately it looks like 2020 is going to be an order of magnitude worse.

Sadly, I think you’re right. It’s really gonna ramp up as we head into election season next November.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 31, 2019 • 10:56:49am

re: #3 Barefoot Grin

There. Is. No. Motherfucking. Southern. White. House.

He’s just giving a handjob to the confederates.

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BigPapa  Dec 31, 2019 • 10:56:51am

One thing is for sure: Trump will only get worse, or he will be gone. There will be no in between. Keep your powder dry and your popcorn and drinks topped of. Get in formation.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:06:31am

re: #6 Eventual Carrion

He’s just giving a handjob to the confederates.

He’s definitely trying to make it a thing instead of calling it what it is—chateau des emoluments.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:06:41am

Miami Herald March 6, 2017

The antebellum 1% had their own version of trickle-down economics.

The Confederacy was a con job on whites. And still is.

What the flag symbolizes for blacks is enough reason to take it down. But there’s another reason that white southerners shouldn’t fly it. Or sport it on our state-issued license plates as some do here in North Carolina. The Confederacy - and the slavery that spawned it - was also one big con job on the Southern, white, working class. A con job funded by some of the ante-bellum one-per-centers, that continues today in a similar form.

You don’t have to be an economist to see that forcing blacks - a third of the South’s laborers - to work without pay drove down wages for everyone else. And not just in agriculture. A quarter of enslaved blacks worked in the construction, manufacturing and lumbering trades; cutting wages even for skilled white workers.

Thanks to the profitability of this no-wage/low-wage combination, a majority of American one-per-centers were southerners. Slavery made southern states the richest in the country.

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Dizzy  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:10:10am

Topic-ish and poignant:

Roberston Davies, one of my favourite Canadian authors:

There is no nonsense so gross that society will not, at some time, make a doctrine of it and defend it with every weapon of communal stupidity.

quotationspage.com

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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:14:06am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:14:26am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I hope so too, but unfortunately it looks like 2020 is going to be an order of magnitude worse.

I hate to say it but I agree with you.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:16:23am

Um, WUT

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:16:42am

It’s like the great GOP fallback: When all else fails, bomb Iraq!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:17:06am

re: #13 The Pie Overlord!

Um, WUT

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I’m gonna guess drugs were involved.

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teleskiguy  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:17:45am
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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:19:50am
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lawhawk  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:25:09am

Trump tweets out the staged situation room when al Baghdadi was killed all while Iraq is burning and our embassy is under attack/threat from a mob of Iraqis.

That’s all on him. All of it. He can’t help but deflect and project. Trump was too busy golfing and needed to be pried from the course because the situation in Baghdad was worsening by the hour.

Where are our rapid response forces? After Benghazi, Obama created a rapid response force to deal with threats to our embassies and consulates worldwide - precisely because we didn’t have the capability when Benghazi occurred.

Now? GOP silence and ignoring the crisis Trump created with his reactionary know nothing actions across the Middle East.

Syria, Russia, and Iran are all taking advantage of Trump. Saudis too. All of them. They all know Trump’s a weak reactionary know nothing whose bruised ego is what drives him to act/respond. They are playing Trump and we are weaker for it.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:25:42am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:27:57am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:29:38am

re: #19 Dread Pirate

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Need a hash tag like #Baghazi or something

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:29:49am

Oh shit!

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Targetpractice  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:30:20am

Trump rounds out a shit year by acting in every way as divorced from the realities of his job as Obama was accused of being during Benghazi, yet the media that ripped Obama apart is treating Trump as though he’s still the guy who walked into the Oval Office Jan 2017.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:32:05am

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oh shit!

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Well that is what Obama admin setup wasn’t it? If some shit starts we needed to show a presence quickly.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:35:13am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:36:10am

What are the odds that Trump throws Pence off the ticket and makes Jr or Ivanka his running mate?

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Decatur Deb  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:37:30am

re: #24 Eventual Carrion

Well that is what Obama admin setup wasn’t it? If some shit starts we needed to show a presence quickly.

“Show a presence” =/= “Kill everyone in sight”.

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lawhawk  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:37:36am

re: #26 The Pie Overlord!

Even odds. Then he steps down, and his spawn fills the position, pardons him, and they all continue to grift the hell out of everyone and everything.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:37:57am
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Targetpractice  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:37:57am

OFFS

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Teddy's Person  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:38:47am

re: #26 The Pie Overlord!

What are the odds that Trump throws Pence off the ticket and makes Jr or Ivanka his running mate?

He doesn’t really need Pence anymore now that he’s the religious right’s god king.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:40:06am

re: #27 Decatur Deb

“Show a presence” =/= “Kill everyone in sight”.

Very true of course. And tRump will compare this response to Benghazi without mentioning that the quick response force was started by Obama admin for just such a situation as this.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:40:32am

Still stupid after all these years. Dammit, Janet!

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:41:52am

re: #31 Teddy’s Person

He doesn’t really need Pence anymore now that he’s the religious right’s god king.

Wait for Ivanka to divorce Jared, blame him for the fuckup in the Middle East, and embrace Christianity in order to join Daddy on the ticket.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:43:04am

re: #33 Dread Pirate

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Still stupid after all these years. Dammit, Janet!

Prez Sanderz

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Jay C  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:45:29am

re: #22 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oh shit!

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Why “Oh shit”??
By most accounts, at this point, the violence in Baghdad is over: The Iraqi government let their militia pals have their little riot/”Death to America”-fest; let them collect enough clicks/views/media attention - then cleared everybody out. Everybody, who are probably going to repair to every Internet cafe in Baghdad to click/view/watch themselves make fools of Trump and the US. While those Apache copters circle aimlessly above, burning fuel and doing little.
No Benghazi here - but I’m sure that by the time the WH buffoon circus get through trying to spin things, it will be characterized as a mashup of The Alamo, Gettysburg and Bastogne. With red MAGA hats…..

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Targetpractice  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:45:33am

re: #33 Dread Pirate

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Still stupid after all these years. Dammit, Janet!

President Sanders: Because 4 years of total incompetence is not enough!

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:47:55am

re: #33 Dread Pirate

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Still stupid after all these years. Dammit, Janet!

SLUT!

(Just reliving my younger days in the theater yelling at the “The Rocky Horror Picture Show” and holding a newspaper over my head)

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Teddy's Person  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:50:01am

re: #34 The Pie Overlord!

Wait for Ivanka to divorce Jared, blame him for the fuckup in the Middle East, and embrace Christianity in order to join Daddy on the ticket.

It’s funny (not ha-ha funny but odd) that Ivanka’s name comes up more often than Uday or Qusay as Trump’s successor.

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jeffreyw  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:51:07am

carrot cake - cream cheese frosting with hazelnut sprinkle

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:58:41am

re: #33 Dread Pirate

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Still stupid after all these years. Dammit, Janet!

When I think international relations know how, I think Bernie. One thing is for sure. I don’t envy the foreign service.

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makeitstop  Dec 31, 2019 • 11:58:55am

This would be a shame. Yeah, a real shame…

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:00:31pm

re: #39 Teddy’s Person

It’s funny (not ha-ha funny but odd) that Ivanka’s name comes up more often than Uday or Qusay as Trump’s successor.

It might be amusing to see Ivanka and Donnie Jr fight it out to assume the reigns to the golden toilet seat throne.

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plansbandc  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:00:47pm

Animal twitter is the best twitter.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:01:08pm

re: #42 makeitstop

This would be a shame. Yeah, a real shame…

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Maybe that might restore some sanity.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:01:56pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

It might be amusing to see Ivanka and Donnie Jr fight it out to assume the reigns to the golden toilet seat throne.

Two may enter, one may leave.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:02:01pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

It might be amusing to see Ivanka and Donnie Jr fight it out to assume the reigns to the golden toilet seat throne.

Game of Trumps.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:02:27pm

re: #47 Decatur Deb

Game of Dumps.

FTFY

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Jay C  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:02:49pm

re: #39 Teddy’s Person

It’s funny (not ha-ha funny but odd) that Ivanka’s name comes up more often than Uday or Qusay as Trump’s successor.

Why is it odd? Compared to her brothers, Ivanka is better-looking, has a more-stable family life, a better record in “business” (if a horridly schlocky one); and a record of public statements that (bad as it may be) at least doesn’t make her look like a total asshole/idiot/hack/entitled twat, etc.

I mean, it’s a low bar to hurdle indeed (improvement over Don Jr. and Eric) -and personally, I wouldn’t vote for Ivanka Trump for (the proverbial) dogcatcher Animal Control Director: but then again: I’m a paid-up LGF Lizard (which I’d like to think gives me some sort of intellectual cachet. Though I’m sure I’m wrong about that……).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:04:55pm

re: #49 Jay C

Also, I’m sure the GOP are deluded enough to think that nominating Ivanka will draw some independents and progressives over to their side because they’ll be excited to vote for a woman.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:04:59pm

re: #49 Jay C

Why is it odd? Compared to her brothers, Ivanka is better-looking, has a more-stable family life, a better record in “business” (if a horridly schlocky one); and a record of public statements that (bad as it may be) at least doesn’t make her look like a total asshole/idiot/hack/entitled twat, etc.

I mean, it’s a low bar to hurdle indeed (improvement over Don Jr. and Eric) -and personally, I wouldn’t vote for Ivanka Trump for (the proverbial) dogcatcher Animal Control Director: but then again: I’m a paid-up LGF Lizard (which I’d like to think gives me some sort of intellectual cachet. Though I’m sure I’m wrong about that……).

The misogyny of the typical Trumpster.

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Semper Fi  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:05:22pm

re: #26 The Pie Overlord!

What are the odds that Trump throws Pence off the ticket and makes Jr or Ivanka his running mate?

I expect Pence to be thrown off for some time now replaced by Lindsey Graham or Nikki Haley but Trump would need to dominate each and may not be possible.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:05:34pm

re: #49 Jay C

Why is it odd? Compared to her brothers, Ivanka is better-looking, has a more-stable family life, a better record in “business” (if a horridly schlocky one); and a record of public statements that (bad as it may be) at least doesn’t make her look like a total asshole/idiot/hack/entitled twat, etc.

I mean, it’s a low bar to hurdle indeed (improvement over Don Jr. and Eric) -and personally, I wouldn’t vote for Ivanka Trump for (the proverbial) dogcatcher Animal Control Director: but then again: I’m a paid-up LGF Lizard (which I’d like to think gives me some sort of intellectual cachet. Though I’m sure I’m wrong about that……).

I think it’s she projects relative stability to her brothers especially Don Jr who constantly is RTing nutty shit. Ivanka will come off insensitive but she’s not reckless enough to RT a white nationalist account.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:05:49pm

Article from 2014, when the response task force in the area was being formed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:07:09pm

re: #26 The Pie Overlord!

What are the odds that Trump throws Pence off the ticket and makes Jr or Ivanka his running mate?

Yes, he will get rid of Pence but I don’t think even Trump would select one of his spawn as a running mate — but Nikki Haley would make sense.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:07:47pm

It feels like so much of this is a dystopian story about a reality show presidency.

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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:08:27pm

Right-wing misogyny and admiring Ivanka are not necessarily in conflict.

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Semper Fi  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:09:25pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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Perfectly described IMO.

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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:09:40pm

Considering how she’s remade herself to fit her father’s tastes.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:11:37pm

re: #36 Jay C

Why “Oh shit”??
By most accounts, at this point, the violence in Baghdad is over: The Iraqi government let their militia pals have their little riot/”Death to America”-fest; let them collect enough clicks/views/media attention - then cleared everybody out. Everybody, who are probably going to repair to every Internet cafe in Baghdad to click/view/watch themselves make fools of Trump and the US. While those Apache copters circle aimlessly above, burning fuel and doing little.
No Benghazi here - but I’m sure that by the time the WH buffoon circus get through trying to spin things, it will be characterized as a mashup of The Alamo, Gettysburg and Bastogne. With red MAGA hats…..

Because Trump and whatever minions are in charge are going for max visibility when they should be doing the opposite. What are the Apaches supposed to do? Fire their chain guns into whatever is left of the mob? We couldn’t let the Iranian proxies get away with attacking our troops but a response did not require so public a demonstration as the airstrike, an action that would be sure to incite the Iraqis and undermine the Iraqi government. The Trumpsters are playing to his base with this whole affair. That they are also playing to the Iranian base does not bother them in the least.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:12:09pm

re: #57 jaunte

Right-wing misogyny and admiring Ivanka are not necessarily in conflict.

Ivanka claims to be a voice of conscience for the administration. Where has that conscientiousness been listened to? Imo Ivanka is more cynical than her brothers. She’s interested in one thing only and that’s her brand. That’s why her father favors her over the boys when it comes to being part of the presentation of the presidency.

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plansbandc  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:15:11pm

Definitely worth a watch:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:15:50pm

Trump’s getting ready to hand Iraq over to Putin.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:16:00pm

re: #59 jaunte

Considering how she’s remade herself to fit her father’s tastes.

The way he talks about her is creepy. I’ve seen men proud of their daughters but he’s creepy af to her. I think he sees her the most as an extension of himself.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:16:41pm

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Trump’s getting ready to hand Iraq over to Putin.

And telling us that we should be thankful for that.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:26:56pm

Sure enough…….

Freepers are ecstatic, ignoring that there is a permanent detachment of Marines right at the embassy, and that the high visibility chopper overflight actually took longer to initiate than the Benghazi attack lasted.

‘No Benghazis On His Watch’: Lindsey Graham Praises Trump’s Response After US Embassy Attacked

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Dave In Austin  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:30:20pm
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Jay C  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:31:52pm

re: #55 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes, he will get rid of Pence but I don’t think even Trump would select one of his spawn as a running mate — but Nikki Haley would make sense.

As a desperation move, maybe. I realize Mike Pence has the personal magnetism of your average Indiana fencepost, but I can’t see where Nikki Haley is going to attract any significant number of voters to Trump’s ticket who wouldn’t vote for him anyway.

I mean, I can see some idiot in the GOP campaign organization brainstorming up the notion that “Wow! A female POC* on the Republican ticket! That’ll throw those dumbshit libs for a loop!”; but it’s hard to imagine that would seriously affect a Trump reelection attempt. Then again, there are those linked concepts: “Trump”, “GOP”, “idiot”, etc.

* Though I’m sure that the phrase “Wow! An Indian chick” would be closer to the mark…

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Targetpractice  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:31:59pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sure enough…….

Freepers are ecstatic, ignoring that there is a permanent detachment of Marines right at the embassy, and that the high visibility chopper overflight actually took longer to initiate than the Benghazi attack lasted.

‘No Benghazis On His Watch’: Lindsey Graham Praises Trump’s Response After US Embassy Attacked

Except the attack in Benghazi wasn’t on an embassy as that was in Tripoli, but instead was an attack on a consulate which struggled to provide necessary security in the face of funding cuts. And the “fast” response to the attack on our embassy in Iraq was because of changes implemented by the Obama admin.

And seriously, the gate got bashed down, fires were lit, but we’re supposed to be thrilled? This is like celebrating that “only” two people were killed in a Texas church because there were armed security on the premises.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:32:06pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:36:01pm

re: #70 Teddy’s Person

In an ideal world, Reich would be the Dem frontrunner.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:42:41pm

How amazingly wise and prescient of God’s President Trump to station Marines right at the embassy in Baghdad!
/infinity

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:45:00pm

re: #69 Targetpractice

Except the attack in Benghazi wasn’t on an embassy as that was in Tripoli, but instead was an attack on a consulate which struggled to provide necessary security in the face of funding cuts. And the “fast” response to the attack on our embassy in Iraq was because of changes implemented by the Obama admin.

And seriously, the gate got bashed down, fires were lit, but we’re supposed to be thrilled? This is like celebrating that “only” two people were killed in a Texas church because there were armed security on the premises.

Weren’t the 2 victims part of the armed security? And someone on the armed security brought down the criminal — not the armed civilians.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:45:19pm

re: #28 lawhawk

Even odds. Then he steps down, and his spawn fills the position, pardons him, and they all continue to grift the hell out of everyone and everything.

he’d have to win first / .5

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:47:12pm

re: #33 Dread Pirate

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Still stupid after all these years. Dammit, Janet!

primary candidate sanders lost and was not on the presidential ticket

your only option was Candidate Clinton

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:47:57pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sure enough…….

Freepers are ecstatic, ignoring that there is a permanent detachment of Marines right at the embassy, and that the high visibility chopper overflight actually took longer to initiate than the Benghazi attack lasted.

‘No Benghazis On His Watch’: Lindsey Graham Praises Trump’s Response After US Embassy Attacked

The response team Obama admin initiated and built out

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:49:11pm

re: #67 Dave In Austin

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And your father smells of eucalyptus.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:49:17pm

re: #33 Dread Pirate

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Still stupid after all these years. Dammit, Janet!

oh, you mean this time?

well if he gets the most primary votes, sure .
and if he doesnt, then he’s not all that and you better vote blue no matter who

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:50:39pm

re: #75 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

primary candidate sanders lost and was not on the presidential ticket

your only option was Candidate Clinton

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Sanders would have lost in a landslide and any efforts to challenge Trump would died before they were born. But the Bernie supporters are so blind that they will bring this nation down again — and destroy us — if Bernie again fails to be the nominee.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:52:02pm

re: #55 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes, he will get rid of Pence but I don’t think even Trump would select one of his spawn as a running mate — but Nikki Haley would make sense.

changing VP’s not a sign of confidence or stability (let alone half the cabinet, AG’s, SOS’s (S’sOS?) or whatever)

what substantial block of voters would then vote R who wouldnt if pence were on the ticket?

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:56:36pm

re: #79 Hecuba’s daughter

Sanders would have lost in a landslide and any efforts to challenge Trump would died before they were born. But the Bernie supporters are so blind that they will bring this nation down again — and destroy us — if Bernie again fails to be the nominee.

i cannot wrap my head around “the person who couldnt win the primary would have made a better general election candidate.”

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Targetpractice  Dec 31, 2019 • 12:59:51pm

re: #81 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

i cannot wrap my head around “the person who couldnt win the primary would have made a better general election candidate.”

It’s easy: You just assume the primaries were rigged against him, that the party really wanted him instead of Hillary, and had he won then the voters would have been able to support him and those who didn’t like him would be forced to vote for him because he was the nominee.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:02:15pm

re: #7 BigPapa

One thing is for sure: Trump will only get worse, or he will be gone. There will be no in between. Keep your powder dry and your popcorn and drinks topped of. Get in formation.

He will double down and Republicans along with our useless Press Corpse will continue to kiss his ass!

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:02:42pm

re: #80 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

changing VP’s not a sign of confidence or stability (let alone half the cabinet, AG’s, SOS’s (S’sOS?) or whatever)

what substantial block of voters would then vote R who wouldnt if pence were on the ticket?

Trump doesn’t like Pence. Switching him out will not lose him a single vote among his supporters, and who knows whether it might gain him a few votes. Remember that Trump did not need to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin to become President — he only needed to win one of those three states to be elected.

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:02:54pm

re: #31 Teddy’s Person

He doesn’t really need Pence anymore now that he’s the religious right’s god king.

Trump doesn’t need more problems. Pence has some dirt by now and would be very hard to buy off because he currently has the only two things he wants, adjacency to power and first spot in the line of succession. He’s a religious fanatic who truly believes God wants him to take over after Trump, he’s not giving that up without a fight.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:03:14pm

remember that Collins nonsense this morning? Total bullshit.

here’s how it’s getting played:

Collins’ stance on the parameters of the impeachment trial aligns her with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who has all but promised a swift acquittal of Trump. McConnell has argued for following the framework of the 1999 impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton, which punted a decision on witness testimony until after the initial arguments and senatorial questioning.

What she said:

“I am open to witnesses. I think it’s premature to decide who should be called until we see the evidence that is presented and get the answers to the questions that we senators can submit through the chief justice to both sides,” Collins told Maine Public Radio on Monday.

the effect: get the trial started, then the house / prosecutor / dems are out of moves and it gets shut down quick

collins is not concerned or open to anything. total bullshit

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:05:29pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

It’s easy: You just assume the primaries were rigged against him, that the party really wanted him instead of Hillary, and had he won then the voters would have been able to support him and those who didn’t like him would be forced to vote for him because he was the nominee.

so he wasnt smart/deft/strong enough to overcome ‘rigged’ primaries?
how’s he gonna be smart/deft/strong enough to beat the opponent in the general?

/ not even .5

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:07:35pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sure enough…….

Freepers are ecstatic, ignoring that there is a permanent detachment of Marines right at the embassy, and that the high visibility chopper overflight actually took longer to initiate than the Benghazi attack lasted.

‘No Benghazis On His Watch’: Lindsey Graham Praises Trump’s Response After US Embassy Attacked

Miss Lindsay conveniently stays silent about the 4 servicemen killed in Niger…

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:07:55pm

re: #81 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

i cannot wrap my head around “the person who couldnt win the primary would have made a better general election candidate.”

Theoretically that is possible: primary voters tend to be more fanatic and extreme than those for the election. So candidate appeals to the base, but then in the general election, voters might not show up or might prefer the opposition. Nixon was always going to win in 1972, but his victory would not have been so lopsided if other, stronger candidates, were not driven out.

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plansbandc  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:08:42pm

Unfortunately, I walked through the living room just as CBS was doing a story on the Texas church shooting.

One of the anchors’ (propagandists’) conclusion was, “Thank God for the law that allows people to carry guns in churches.” I screamed at the TV.

TV news is ridiculous pile of bullshit. I really hate that my dude watches it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:11:20pm

re: #90 plansbandc

Unfortunately, I walked through the living room just as CBS was doing a story on the Texas church shooting.

One of the anchors’ (propagandists’) conclusion was, “Thank God for the law that allows people to carry guns in churches.” I screamed at the TV.

TV news is ridiculous pile of bullshit. I really hate that my dude watches it.

I refer to that network as “SEE B.S.”

Walter Cronkite and Edward R Murrow weep in their graves to see how corrupted the SEE B.S. Snooze Division has become!

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Teddy's Person  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:13:08pm

Here’s a good rundown of what Pence brings to the 2020 ticket.

The money quote:

Rep. Debbie Dingell, a Michigan Democrat, told McClatchy that Pence is good at retail politics. “Some people like dull,” she said.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:16:28pm
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goddamnedfrank  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:25:47pm

Shit, now I kind of want to down an entire bag of edibles and go see it.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:35:41pm

I really want for this man not to be president anymore. 2020 is going to be the year of wagging the dog.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:38:31pm

re: #95 Teddy’s Person

I really want for this man not to be president anymore. 2020 is going to be the year of wagging the dog.

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I really wish I didn’t have to think about him anymore. That this man is our President says so much about where we are as a society.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:38:41pm

re: #37 Targetpractice

President Sanders: Because 4 years of total incompetence is not enough!

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Sanders is far from my first choice for nominee, but even he is an order of magnitude better than Trump, who doesn’t possess a single redeeming quality.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:39:48pm

re: #39 Teddy’s Person

It’s funny (not ha-ha funny but odd) that Ivanka’s name comes up more often than Uday or Qusay as Trump’s successor.

She’s daddy’s favorite, but the real heir to the Trump base is Junior.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:42:31pm

re: #98 NO SMOCKING GUN!

She’s daddy’s favorite, but the real heir to the Trump base is Junior.

Correct. And Trump Jr actually believes the whacked out shit. Ivanka only believes in Ivanka.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:42:37pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sure enough…….

Freepers are ecstatic, ignoring that there is a permanent detachment of Marines right at the embassy, and that the high visibility chopper overflight actually took longer to initiate than the Benghazi attack lasted.

‘No Benghazis On His Watch’: Lindsey Graham Praises Trump’s Response After US Embassy Attacked

forget the inconvenient fact that this is NOTHING like Benghazi, because the actual embassy staff was already evacuated

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teleskiguy  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:45:16pm

Scenes from an Italian Restaurant as played by Umphrey’s McGee last night.

(audience sourced recording)

MP3 Audio

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teleskiguy  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:47:06pm

Shit for brains.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:48:46pm

re: #98 NO SMOCKING GUN!

She’s daddy’s favorite, but the real heir to the Trump base is Junior.

Junior makes more sense but doesn’t seem to hold the base as securely in thrall as papa Trump. He got booed off the stage during his book tour because he wouldn’t do a Q&A. Not sure what senior would have to do to get a similar reaction.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:48:50pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Correct. And Trump Jr actually believes the whacked out shit. Ivanka only believes in Ivanka.

Ivanka is sane — evil, but sane — and her tweets are generally polite. Does Jr actually believe the nonsense he tweets, or is he a replica of his father, regurgitating lies to excite the base?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:48:51pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

Shit for brains.

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It’s all a dick waving contest to him.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:49:28pm

re: #104 Hecuba’s daughter

Ivanka is sane — evil, but sane — and her tweets are generally polite. Does Jr actually believe the nonsense he tweets, or is he a replica of his father, regurgitating lies to excite the base?

I think he actually believes them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:49:50pm

Mike Pence is the Dr. Jekyll to Trumps Mr. Hyde.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:53:28pm

re: #103 Teddy’s Person

Junior makes more sense but doesn’t seem to hold the base as securely in thrall as papa Trump. He got booed off the stage during his book tour because he wouldn’t do a Q&A. Not sure what senior would have to do to get a similar reaction.

Show up at a World Series game.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:53:29pm

re: #107 Eclectic Cyborg

Mike Pence is the Dr. Jekyll to Trumps Mr. Hyde.

You are too kind.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:53:55pm

re: #104 Hecuba’s daughter

Ivanka is sane — evil, but sane — and her tweets are generally polite. Does Jr actually believe the nonsense he tweets, or is he a replica of his father, regurgitating lies to excite the base?

I think Ivanka is a narcissist, just like her dad. She has a different style but the substance is all me, me me.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:54:27pm

re: #107 Eclectic Cyborg

Mike Pence is the Dr. Jekyll to Trumps Mr. Hyde.

Very unfair to Dr. Jekyll. Pence is as vile as Trump, but with different sins. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he is as owned by Putin as Trump.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:54:33pm

NC elections may actually be fair next year.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:56:30pm

MAGA!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:57:07pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 31, 2019 • 1:57:13pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:00:45pm

re: #115 Dave In Austin

This reality sucks. Can’t we open a portal to another one?

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:01:20pm

re: #13 The Pie Overlord!

He could be running drugs in his prison pocket.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:01:21pm

re: #115 Dave In Austin

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A President who is golfing while our largest embassy is under siege and whining on Twitter.

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Citizen K  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:02:32pm

re: #115 Dave In Austin

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But reminder that it was Obama who was treated like a Messiah by his supporters, guyz!

Seriously, the legitimate messianism surrounding Trump is fucking terrifying.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:08:44pm

re: #116 Eclectic Cyborg

This reality sucks. Can’t we open a portal to another one?

Other realities are preventing us from doing this. They can see what’s at stake.

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makeitstop  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:09:02pm

Umm…

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Shropshire Slasher  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:13:15pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

In an ideal world, Reich would be the Dem frontrunner.

I think he would come up a little short.

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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:14:04pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:19:38pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:25:39pm

Incels lay out their case. As my first sergeant used to say, these clowns couldn’t get laid in a monkey whorehouse if they owned a banana plantation.

Facebook Post

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:27:18pm

For once, everyone who should’ve been fired was.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:30:26pm

re: #90 plansbandc

Unfortunately, I walked through the living room just as CBS was doing a story on the Texas church shooting.

One of the anchors’ (propagandists’) conclusion was, “Thank God for the law that allows people to carry guns in churches.” I screamed at the TV.

TV news is ridiculous pile of bullshit. I really hate that my dude watches it.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:31:17pm
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BigPapa  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:31:59pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

Oh… shit!

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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:32:55pm

Last day of 2019 from around my neck of the woods. Happy New Year to all denizens of Lizardia, and many thanks to Charles for this refuge of informed comment.

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Disloyal Archangel  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:35:05pm

From the Middle East where it’s already in full effect, happy new year my fellow lizards! Here’s hoping the 20s prove a better, saner, calmer and more successful decade for everyone!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:35:33pm
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BigPapa  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:40:40pm

Thank you Charles. For this place, and, for reminding me to ruin everyone else’ New Decade plans. I’m spreading it around!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:42:44pm
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Teddy's Person  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:48:22pm

I just had to stop by the golf club real quick to make sure the monthly bill for golf carts was sent to the Secret Service.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:50:50pm

LOL

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:51:33pm

re: #125 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Robyn Pennacchia over at Wonkette has a great synopsis of this bro-fest, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:52:08pm

re: #110 Teddy’s Person

I think Ivanka is a narcissist, just like her dad. She has a different style but the substance is all me, me me.

I think she is just completely damaged since childhood…
just look at the photos of her and the orange menace from back then.

and she had NO ONE to turn to who would have been willing to intervene.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:54:26pm

re: #135 Teddy’s Person

Various locations…
Hole 1
Hole 2

Hole 17
Hole 18

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joe90  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:54:54pm

The skies in these parts have taken on a rather pinkish hue.

satview.bom.gov.au

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 31, 2019 • 2:57:38pm

Evening Lizardim. Tonight’s New Year’s festivities have been canceled on account of an ill fishspawn, so here I sit. How go things among the lizardfolk as the end of the decade slowly approaches?

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:00:42pm

re: #141 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I hope the fishspawn gets better soon and that you and your family have a Happy New Year.

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Teukka  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:00:46pm

And CET just went into 2020. Happy new year :fireworks:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:01:24pm

re: #137 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Robyn Pennacchia over at Wonkette has a great synopsis of this bro-fest, too.

Wow, what a shitshow. Almost makes Fyre Fest look like freaking Woodstock.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:05:38pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow, what a shitshow. Almost makes Fyre Fest look like freaking Woodstock.

More frustrated virgins than a papal conclave.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:07:42pm

The 2010s: The Decade of Shitty White People

We were so close.
For a minute there it seemed like America had come to its goddamn senses. It closed out the first decade of the new century by electing its first African-American president, while simultaneously handing him healthy, veto-proof majorities in both the House and Senate after a decade of letting The Fear drive us into the arms of a half-witted dufus by the name of George W. Bush, who seized that opportunity to fail spectacularly at virtually every conceivable measure of the public trust in return.

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Citizen K  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:11:48pm

re: #139 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Various locations…
Hole 1
Hole 2

Hole 17
Hole 18

I dunno, I’m pretty sure this is unfair.

This assumes he can actually play through at least 4 holes before having to fake it.

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Disloyal Archangel  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:16:29pm

re: #33 Dread Pirate

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Still stupid after all these years. Dammit, Janet!

I have absolutely no respect nor kind sentiments to her and others on the Democratic side of things who enabled the Orange menace and his policies and actions - for which some people have paid heavily.

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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:17:12pm
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PhillyPretzel  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:18:37pm

Some of my neighbors are setting off fireworks. :(
This is going to be a very noisy evening.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:23:17pm

re: #139 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Various locations…
Hole 1
Hole 2

Hole 17
Hole 18

From his golf cart that he drove over the line of another golfer’s putt on the green.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:24:03pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow, what a shitshow. Almost makes Fyre Fest look like freaking Woodstock.

$1,999? Is that what you’ll pay me to attend?

Let me think about it….

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:28:32pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:29:18pm

And a Happy New Year to Lizards far and wide from Europe, where it’s already 2020. All the best!

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:30:45pm

re: #154 Dr Lizardo

And a very Happy New Year to you too. :)

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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:40:47pm
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Dr Lizardo  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:44:30pm

re: #155 PhillyPretzel

And a very Happy New Year to you too. :)

Thanks.

Gonna call it a day. Have fun, Lizards.

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CarolJ  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:49:19pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

What self-or even not-self respecting woman would pay $1000 for advice she would get from her: pastor, old grandpa, or a hundred books like Fascinating Womanhood? And that’s not including time or travel either. If I wanted to be lectured by men, I could go back to church or just pay attention to my mansplaining brother for free.

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gocart mozart  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:50:23pm

Account may have been hacked

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:50:44pm

re: #148 Disloyal Archangel

I have absolutely no respect nor kind sentiments to her and others on the Democratic side of things who enabled the Orange menace and his policies and actions - for which some people have paid heavily.

She cared more about her “revolution” than progress. And there’s no introspection and admitting that Clinton would have been much better than the nightmare Trump is.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:53:24pm

re: #154 Dr Lizardo

And a Happy New Year to Lizards far and wide from Europe, where it’s already 2020. All the best!

Happy New York DL and all of Europe. I’m going out a few towns over to get a nice dinner and maybe check out what a bar that one of my cousins manages and see how they’re bringing in the New Year. It’s been a tough year here but I want to make 2020 right.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:54:09pm

Six hours to midnight, and the barrage has begun.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:55:34pm

re: #162 Decatur Deb

Yes. At this moment it is quiet. I am prepared for some really loud noises this evening. :(

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Decatur Deb  Dec 31, 2019 • 3:58:18pm

re: #163 PhillyPretzel

Yes. At this moment it is quiet. I am prepared for some really loud noises this evening. :(

Our current Pyr is very laid back, but the last dog (Sami) would really freak.

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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:02:52pm
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teleskiguy  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:09:16pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:12:07pm

The theme song of 2020?

Hieronymus Bosch Butt Music

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:15:33pm

made some Guinness/beef/mushroom cottage pies tonight:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:20:41pm

“wonderful account”

Fuck all y’all

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:21:05pm

re: #165 jaunte

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Mission accomplished

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retired cynic  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:21:30pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

“wonderful account”

Fuck all y’all

[Embedded content]

barf

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:23:24pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:23:42pm

Well thanks to a medical emergency with brother in law, we are at mom in laws house for the night. So, to cheer us up I went grocery shopping. Steaks, tiny onions and mushrooms. Got potatoes but not sure about what to do. Mashed, baked or roasted?

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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:23:48pm

“…Trump shows little interest in either seriously negotiating or fighting. He has waged economic warfare on Iran while doing nothing to curb its regional aggression; indeed, by withdrawing U.S. troops from part of northern Syria, he has allowed an extension of Iranian influence. So we are left with the worst of all possible worlds: Iran is once again waging a low-intensity conflict, and America once again has no effective response.”

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gocart mozart  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:25:48pm
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retired cynic  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:26:17pm

re: #173 Rightwingconspirator

Well thanks to a medical emergency with brother in law, we are at mom in laws house for the night. So, to cheer us up I went grocery shopping. Steaks, tiny onions and mushrooms. Got potatoes but not sure about what to do. Mashed, baked or roasted?

Mashed is comfort food. But with steaks, I prefer baked myself!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:26:19pm

re: #152 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!

$1,999? Is that what you’ll pay me to attend?

Let me think about it….

I don’t need two grand that badly. I don’t know anyone who’d sit through that drivel, not even for two grand.

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lawhawk  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:29:42pm

re: #173 Rightwingconspirator

I guess it depends on the kind of potato you picked up. Baked is a good standby. I like mashed - instead of butter, use EVOO and some garlic and herbs.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:30:00pm

re: #173 Rightwingconspirator

Mashed. The ultimate comfort food. I hope your brother-in-law gets better soon.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:31:05pm

re: #167 gocart mozart

“Music For His Majesty’s Sackbutts and Cornets”. Hard to find a boss sackbutt these days.

Matthew Locke Suite “Music For His Majesty’s Sackbutts and Cornets”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:35:47pm

re: #36 Jay C

Why “Oh shit”??
By most accounts, at this point, the violence in Baghdad is over: The Iraqi government let their militia pals have their little riot/”Death to America”-fest; let them collect enough clicks/views/media attention - then cleared everybody out. Everybody, who are probably going to repair to every Internet cafe in Baghdad to click/view/watch themselves make fools of Trump and the US. While those Apache copters circle aimlessly above, burning fuel and doing little.
No Benghazi here - but I’m sure that by the time the WH buffoon circus get through trying to spin things, it will be characterized as a mashup of The Alamo, Gettysburg and Bastogne. With red MAGA hats…..

You forgot Wolf 359

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:39:09pm

how about “NO”

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:39:28pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

Are we supposed to have forgotten the fiasco in Western Africa which resulted in four dead soldiers? That happened under Trump’s watch so?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:44:34pm

re: #183 Patricia Kayden

Are we supposed to have forgotten the fiasco in Western Africa which resulted in four dead soldiers? That happened under Trump’s watch so?

pesky detail…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:45:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:46:30pm

fuck all of them

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gocart mozart  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:47:36pm
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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:49:02pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seems like a lot of people in the country could use some competent policy help, not a golfing, bribe-taking chiseler as president*

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:52:00pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:53:53pm

This is breathtaking bullshit

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:56:07pm
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makeitstop  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:56:25pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

“wonderful account”

Fuck all y’all

[Embedded content]

Sure, go ahead and piss everybody off who might try again. Asshole.

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lawhawk  Dec 31, 2019 • 4:57:58pm

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

Not a single one of these things is even being considered. It’s all bulkshit. It’s all vaporware.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:03:46pm

Chonky kitteh needs forever home.

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sagehen  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:03:58pm

re: #148 Disloyal Archangel

I have absolutely no respect nor kind sentiments to her and others on the Democratic side of things who enabled the Orange menace and his policies and actions - for which some people have paid heavily.

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This was not a first offense.

2000, Ralph Nader.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:05:41pm
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:08:42pm

re: #196 Dread Pirate

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But Kim writes beautiful letters I’m told.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:09:45pm

re: #194 The Pie Overlord!

Chonky kitteh needs forever home.

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“Chonky cat known to assume Broadway voices such as ‘Please sir, could I have some more’; beware pitiful looks.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:11:03pm

re: #198 Barefoot Grin

“Chonky cat known to assume Broadway voices such as ‘Please sir, could I have some more’; beware pitiful looks.”

“I’m not chonky…I’m FLUFFY”

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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:11:56pm

re: #190 The Pie Overlord!

He’s just going to lie his way out of the old year and into the new.

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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:12:40pm
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lawhawk  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:16:36pm

Here’s hoping everyone has a happy and healthy and prosperous new year. I know some of you are dealing with family medical issues, and none of that is easy to deal with, but I hope that you find strength and comfort knowing that there are folks here who can at least listen and be some measure of support for you.

Thanks Charles once again for another year of allowing us this forum and sanity amid the chaos.

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mmmirele  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:19:56pm

re: #90 plansbandc

Unfortunately, I walked through the living room just as CBS was doing a story on the Texas church shooting.

One of the anchors’ (propagandists’) conclusion was, “Thank God for the law that allows people to carry guns in churches.” I screamed at the TV.

TV news is ridiculous pile of bullshit. I really hate that my dude watches it.

I won’t attend a church that permits or encourages guns. Because eventually, it’s going to come down to a gun battle in the church building. They were LUCKY this time. LUCKY, I tell you.

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sagehen  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:22:23pm

It’s raining in NYC, cloud cover comes down to below 1000 feet.

Fireworks in Central Park at midnight are going to suck. People in Times Square might not even be able to see the countdown clock and the first part of the ball dropping.

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plansbandc  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:24:02pm

re: #173 Rightwingconspirator

Mash those bad boys. And I will dream of them.

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plansbandc  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:26:30pm

The best thing about Christmas was being offline for 3 days and not paying attention to the orange piece of shit. I absolutely despise him and what he’s doing to our country.

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mmmirele  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:27:08pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

A President who is golfing while our largest embassy is under siege and whining on Twitter.

Not the same thing, obviously, but I’m reminded of the complete cluster that was the building of that embassy and all the crap around it, summed up in the book “Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq’s Green Zone.” The title alone just spells out what a disaster the whole program was, and that book was published in 2007.

amazon.com

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prairiefire  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:28:02pm

Happy New Year!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:29:01pm

Mari Lwyd
In Wales, midwinter is the right time to look a gift horse in its gaping skull-mouth.

Around Christmas and New Year’s Eve, Welsh families might find themselves challenged by a decorated horse (or similar animal) skull waiting for them on their doorstep. Adorned in colorful ribbons and bells, the equine image of death has an especially ghostly appearance thanks to the white sheet draped over the person carrying it. As revelers sing and parade this head-on-a-stick around the neighborhood, doors open to meet the morbid white horse in battle, specifically, a battle of wits through poetry. This is Mari Lwyd, a midwinter, pagan tradition whereby celebrants earn food and drink only after dominating a poetry slam fronted by a skeletal face.
The practice also incorporates the centuries-old tradition of wassailing. From Middle English wæs hæil (“be in health”), wassail was originally a sugared-and-spiced drink of mulled ale, curdled cream, roasted apples, and eggs. Those who partook in sharing a huge bowl of this boozy mixture were “wassailing.” The term evolved to describe the custom of begging for booze around Christmas, a time when poor merrymakers expected generosities that would usually be denied. They’d arrive at the doorsteps of wealthier neighbors and ask to drink from the wassailing bowl or have their own bowl filled.

Modern Welsh wassailing isn’t class-based, but the end goal remains the same. Wassailers earn an invitation to come in by proving themselves through a back-and-forth rhyming battle with the residents. Once inside, it’s traditional cakes and ale all around. Wæs hæil!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:32:20pm

I’m not making it to midnight. My son has a Japanese exchange student friend with whom they will eat “toshi-koshi soba” (“longevity soba”) downstairs while I sleep. Or I might do an “anymouse” and say I’m going to bed but in fact stay up for hours. I don’t know. I’m so tired. So much shoveling; so much reading; so much walking a young dog born, it seems, to pull through snow.

And should add, we cracked the bottle of Cakebread Cellars 2016 Cabernet Sauvignon* when I started cooking at 5:30, but I’ve only had two glasses.

*I posted earlier that one of my wife’s client’s husband gifted her with two bottles of Cakebread Cellars wine and a $125 gift card to a local restaurant.

Ha ha, I forgot the reason for the post: Happy New Year!!!!

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:37:11pm

Happy and Hopeful New Year to all. Still 3.5 hours from it here, and I may not make it that long so I better say it now. Going up to read and that can be fatal to trying to stay awake sometimes.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:38:24pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:39:15pm

re: #163 PhillyPretzel

Yes. At this moment it is quiet. I am prepared for some really loud noises this evening. :(

Been fairly quiet out here so far this evening. Spending some quiet time drinking eggnog (w/rum) and catching up on some computer tasks.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:39:19pm

Off to nap until New Year. If it runs long, a good year to all.

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lawhawk  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:44:17pm

Last day of 2019 and I finally make it over 5k twitter followers. Not too bad considering I’ve been on there since… *checks notes* 2008. Never sought out followers. So thanks to all who do.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:47:03pm

I was wrong (see my number one) 2020 is going to suck. Still hoping for a great 2021.

From the Brig to Mar-a-Lago, Former Navy SEAL Capitalizes on Newfound Fame.

The article is from the NYT. $#%$#%$#% link below.

Since being acquitted this summer, Navy SEAL Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher has been occupied with a variety of projects, including modeling his own clothing brand, Salty Frog Gear.

fuck you trump

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:49:00pm

re: #207 mmmirele

Not the same thing, obviously, but I’m reminded of the complete cluster that was the building of that embassy and all the crap around it, summed up in the book “Imperial Life in the Emerald City: Inside Iraq’s Green Zone.” The title alone just spells out what a disaster the whole program was, and that book was published in 2007.

amazon.com

In personality and temperament, Bush 43 is in many ways the opposite of Trump: married once to a librarian, a devoted father of two, a man who was not racist or misogynist or prejudiced against others, who had people of color holding important positions in his administration, raised with the ideal of public service. Yet, is it clear which administration (to date) was more damaging to the Middle East or the world: his government lied us into a war, mishandled the aftermath of conflict, demonized those who objected to the war, was incompetent at dealing with Katrina, won 2004 by painting gays as the other, ran a vicious campaign against McCain in 2000, outed a spy. So much (other than personal corruption) presaged the Trump debacle that is destroying us.

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retired cynic  Dec 31, 2019 • 5:51:11pm

re: #217 Hecuba’s daughter

Agree!

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A Mom Anon  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:03:35pm

re: #216 I Would Prefer Not To

What In THE Actual FUCK. Hell no. This sack of shit. He’s a fucking psychopath that will hurt someone else. Probably very close to home. I’m guessing a book deal and media tour, maybe some speaking gigs and what a show right after Hannity’s or some shit is next?! I hope this sack of crap is run out of public life, but this is America so, probably not. I really want to punch something and cry.

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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:05:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:07:45pm

re: #220 Dread Pirate

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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:09:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:11:09pm
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retired cynic  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:12:59pm

re: #222 Dread Pirate

dammit

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A Mom Anon  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:13:22pm

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is horrifying.
Damn it.

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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:18:04pm
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joe90  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:18:28pm

re: #220 Dread Pirate

About 800 kilometres north things are dimming and you can smell the smoke.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:18:36pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:25:07pm

re: #228 The Pie Overlord!

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Has Trump tweeted yet that there’s an entire continent that should have been properly raked?
//

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Belafon  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:27:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:29:09pm

There comes a point.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:30:02pm

re: #231 Charles Johnson

There comes a point.

Ah, dammit.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:30:28pm

re: #230 Belafon

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He did that. I had a Sesame Street house as a little kid and the Muppets are iconic. PBS really is a great thing. Between Burns’ provoking documentaries, Mr. Rogers’ humanity, the journalism of Frontline, & so much more.

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Belafon  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:35:22pm

Russia is now pushing that England, France, and the US coordinated with Hitler so that Germany could attack the US: balloon-juice.com

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retired cynic  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:36:15pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I don’t have TV, but I do support NPR on a monthly basis. It is worth doing, even if just a bit.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:36:21pm

re: #232 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I know, but it is what it is. There’s only so much negativity I’m willing to put up with on the internet.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:37:42pm

re: #235 retired cynic

I give to my local PBS station on a yearly basis. It is a very good thing to support PBS. :)

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:38:33pm

Should I bake more Pecan Sticky Buns for New Year? The ones that I baked last week are all eated.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:38:45pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

I know, but it is what it is. There’s only so much negativity I’m willing to put up with on the internet.

I’m not disagreeing, it just sucks to see it. Once good people gone wayward.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:38:50pm

Why am I even asking?

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Nyet  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:40:11pm

Happy New year, Lizards!

PS: I’m f drunk and it’s good

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:40:34pm

re: #241 Nyet

Happy New year, Lizards!

PS: I’m f drunk and it’s good

Headed that way myself, soon. Happy New Year, my friend.

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:42:13pm

re: #241 Nyet

Happy New Year to you too Sergey.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:42:20pm
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joe90  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:42:22pm

Meanwhile, 2000km west.

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retired cynic  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:42:45pm

re: #240 The Pie Overlord!

Why am I even asking?

I have no idea. The answer must always be yes!

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Charles Johnson  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:44:01pm

re: #238 The Pie Overlord!

Should I bake more Pecan Sticky Buns for New Year? The ones that I baked last week are all eated.

No way. Oh OK, way.

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plansbandc  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:45:23pm

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 6:56:58pm

re: #241 Nyet

Happy New year, Lizards!

PS: I’m f drunk and it’s good

Getting there Sergey. Happy New Years all.

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calochortus  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:03:05pm

re: #180 Decatur Deb

“Music For His Majesty’s Sackbutts and Cornets”. Hard to find a boss sackbutt these days.

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Video

Thanks. I just had to listen twice. :)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:03:34pm

Here’s wishing each and every one of you a healthy, happier New Year! May 2020 be better.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:05:49pm

re: #250 calochortus

Thanks. I just had to listen twice. :)

How is it there is a baroque brass album that I don’t have?

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calochortus  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:07:13pm

re: #237 PhillyPretzel

I give to my local PBS station on a yearly basis. It is a very good thing to support PBS. :)

It is! And we don’t really consider it a charitable contribution as we don’t have cable and it’s most of what we watch on TV. We don’t mind paying for quality entertainment.

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William Lewis  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:07:32pm

re: #248 plansbandc

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calochortus  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:13:28pm

And a Happy New Year to everyone, as well. We’ll celebrate early and head for bed at the usual time. Tomorrow we’ll take a little hike at Año Nuevo (New Year) Beach with friends.

It is my sincere hope that the New Year brings good things for everyone except Trump and his enablers. May Trump find himself removed from office and on trial for various financial irregularities.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:14:37pm

Woohoo!!

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:21:15pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:24:05pm

Moron

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retired cynic  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:24:56pm

re: #257 goddamnedfrank

LOL!

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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:27:08pm
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jaunte  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:27:44pm
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makeitstop  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:30:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:32:36pm

re: #260 Dread Pirate

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Wow

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Amory Blaine  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:40:39pm

Met this fella Ken Bush at the legion tonight.

sorry can’t fix pic.
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 31, 2019 • 7:57:00pm

re: #125 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Here I am with the Utah Outcasts Gang speaking of the “22 Convention” and it’s NSFW!

The 22 Convention is Coming to Make Women Great Again

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makeitstop  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:02:37pm

Go, Lizzo

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Belafon  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:02:54pm

re: #265 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here I am with the Utah Outcasts Gang speaking of the “22 Convention” and it’s NSFW!

[Embedded content]

22 men and no women?

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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:10:55pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:20:04pm
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retired cynic  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:21:59pm

re: #269 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Nailed it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:22:02pm
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makeitstop  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:27:04pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:30:09pm

re: #262 makeitstop

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makeitstop  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:36:46pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:38:32pm

835 right now. Idiots have been shooting their guns and launching fireworks since 530…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:43:40pm
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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:45:04pm

One good thing about living in a University town, everyone is home for the holidays, so it’s usually pretty quiet.

Happy New Year, everyone!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:46:43pm

Seriously, Anderson Cooper without Kathy Griffin does not a New Years Eve make

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goddamnedfrank  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:48:24pm

...

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:49:05pm

re: #279 goddamnedfrank

Seconded

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:53:40pm
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retired cynic  Dec 31, 2019 • 8:55:18pm

re: #281 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Oh, no!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:00:38pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:00:50pm

Happy New Year everyone. (Clock just hit midnight here)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:02:10pm

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:06:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:07:10pm

Happy New Year LGF.

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De Kolta Chair  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:08:32pm

Happy New Year lizards!

NRBQ 1984 Briar Patch & Crazy Eights

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Targetpractice  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:08:55pm

And now, as I listen to a half-assed 1812 overture outside, courtesy of amateur fireworks displays, I wish all my fellow lizards a Happy New Year.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:11:42pm

re: #290 Targetpractice

And now, as I listen to a half-assed 1812 overture outside, courtesy of amateur fireworks displays, I wish all my fellow lizards a Happy New Year.

Almost 4 hours of that going on here in the Koreatown section of Los Angeles…and it probably won’t stop for another 5-6 more. And we hear the sirens again…

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BeachDem  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:14:32pm

re: #272 makeitstop

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:15:02pm

re: #292 BeachDem

And in all of them, she’s saying, “Fuck this stupid orange pig.”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:17:23pm

re: #292 BeachDem

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Wish I had asked my grandpa the Slovenian words for “fucking bullshit” because that’s what Melania and her family are.

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BeachDem  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:17:35pm

re: #293 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And in all of them, she’s saying, “Fuck this stupid orange pig.”

I doubt Melon could formulate than many coherent words in a row. (And hey, she fucked him and got what she wanted, so fuck her) And also, she looks like a plastic ghoul.

Oh, and happy new year.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:19:54pm

re: #295 BeachDem

I doubt Melon could formulate than many coherent words in a row. (And hey, she fucked him and got what she wanted, so fuck her) And also, she looks like a plastic ghoul.

Oh, and happy new year.

I can’t disagree with your latter point. That photo of her is horrific. And happy New Year to you, still 41 minutes off by my score. I am definitely rapidly approaching inebriation, though.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:20:52pm
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Dread Pirate  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:32:10pm
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calochortus  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:40:41pm

re: #292 BeachDem

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Melania looks really tense. Her lips keep twitching and her breathing is uneven.

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William Lewis  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:41:19pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:50:56pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 31, 2019 • 9:59:58pm

How else would one bring in New Years Central Time?

Led Zeppelin - Stairway to heaven LIVE

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Dec 31, 2019 • 10:04:18pm

Ice
Spray of lime juice
1 Part Gin
2 parts tonic
1 part cranberry juice

Repeat

Repeat

Happy New Years


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