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1
gocart mozart  Jan 1, 2020 • 8:14:31pm

LOL

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2020 • 8:15:22pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 1, 2020 • 8:22:33pm
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Belafon  Jan 1, 2020 • 8:40:43pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

Following that account for the Doctor Who reference in the bio.

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2020 • 9:03:58pm

My winter break ends tonight. As I go back to work tomorrow, I need to talk about something.

One of the things I did over winter break is read ALL of the Questionable Content online webcomic (I have read huge chunks of it multiple times). It’s a really good comic, but it’s most definitely an adult comic. The strange thing is how depressed it made me. It exposed a giant hole inside me that kind of hurts, the hole being a lack of friends.

I have mostly (not perfect at this) worked really hard most of my life. Some of it was expectations from my family - I was the first person to go to and graduate from college (even if it took 17 years) - but a huge portion of it was self motivation. I studied so hard in college that I burnt out. My solution, because I didn’t know what else to do, was to move from MA back to Texas. Then I joined the Navy. When I was in the Navy, I studied software development. When I got out, I came back to Texas. I worked, went to college, had two kids, and still studied non-school related software development in my free time. Even after my degrees, I still studied in my free time, though that was shortened due to children commitments. I’ve jumped jobs in part for the pay, but at times because of other factors, such as getting out of Nortel before it completely collapsed.

But this break the lack of friends caught up with me. I think what QC kind of hit was that I don’t have any friends that I can relate to. The problem with being a liberal geek at a job full of conservatives is not that they don’t agree with me on politics, it’s that most of them don’t like even a few of the things I like. The one group that I do relate to are the recent college grads, who are the age of my children. They’re the people who I can talk about anime or similar American cartoons, gaming, and cosplay.

So I’ve gone into a funk. I can’t concentrate very well. I’ve done almost no reading except for the above mentioned webcomic. And I have seriously moped.

The hard part is how to fix it. Being and atheist, I’m not going to church, which is the big thing to do here in Rockwall. And the kids parents I know about are pretty conservative, the kind that put Blue Lives Matter signs in their yards, send their kids to summer Bible camps and definitely vote for Trump.

I have found a place in Garland where I can go to meet up for D&D. So I really have to figure out how to build up a friend group from nothing, and with people who probably aren’t close to where I live.

It’s not quite a mid-life crisis, but the end of this year kind of punched me in the gut.

Edited slightly.

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Citizen K  Jan 1, 2020 • 9:13:37pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 1, 2020 • 9:28:53pm

re: #5 Belafon

I can only speak from experience because I’ve been there.

I gave up on politics after Pruneface got elected and took a civil service job. Initially my aunt made me go to her Foursquare church which I DETESTED. I had several women who wanted to marry me but I fell in the trap and wound up paying 18 years of child support at the same time paying off student loans.

So I really got into chess and bridge for therapy. I got into correspondence chess and when I came home from work I’d pop dinner in the oven and start to analyze game moves. I made lots of friends that way. Politically they tended to be on the Right so we just discussed chess analysis.

However chess computers and software took the fun out of playing correspondence chess and sadly a lot of folks cheat with them when you play on the Net. Now I still play chess on the net every once in a while but I now find more solace in bridge. Also started playing Diplomacy online as well.

I learned the hard way that I’m destined to be single and after the terrible experience where I was never able to bond with my son—family life is not for me. In the immortal words of Ricky Nelson

“If you gotta play at garden parties,
I wish you a lotta luck
But if memories were all I sang,
I’d rather drive a truck
But it’s all right now
I learned my lesson well
See you can’t please everyone
So you got to please yourself!”

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2020 • 9:35:39pm

re: #7 Joe Bacon 🌹

I think I also need to get some friends where I could meet occasionally just because. As much as I like being here, I feel like I actually need to start seeing people with my own eyes and hear voices and especially laughter.

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2020 • 9:39:19pm

Oh, and while I can talk to the 25-28ish people at work, I think an attempt at hanging out with them would just be weird.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 1, 2020 • 9:40:45pm

I’m going to hit the rack. Many museums to see tomorrow.

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William Lewis  Jan 1, 2020 • 9:56:25pm

re: #5 Belafon

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danarchy  Jan 1, 2020 • 9:56:58pm

re: #6 Citizen K

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So that story is from November. As far as I can find he is still on the NSC and scheduled to rotate out in July as he always was.

snopes.com

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Belafon  Jan 1, 2020 • 10:20:44pm

re: #11 William Lewis

3733

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Dread Pirate  Jan 1, 2020 • 10:35:32pm

This timeline of stupidity makes my brain hurt.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 2, 2020 • 1:11:37am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 2, 2020 • 1:13:22am

Western music trudged along with church chants for centuries, then exploded in the 17th-19th centuries, but probably hit peak-beauty with Debussy. Maybe Puccini, but probably Debussy.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2020 • 1:34:00am

re: #8 Belafon

I think I also need to get some friends where I could meet occasionally just because. As much as I like being here, I feel like I actually need to start seeing people with my own eyes and hear voices and especially laughter.

Are you close enough to Dallas to go to their comic-con and similar events? People of all ages, panels and/or parties and/or hospitality suites broken down into very specific fandoms, etc.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 2, 2020 • 2:39:04am
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steve_davis  Jan 2, 2020 • 4:29:25am

re: #7 Joe Bacon 🌹

I can only speak from experience because I’ve been there.

I gave up on politics after Pruneface got elected and took a civil service job. Initially my aunt made me go to her Foursquare church which I DETESTED. I had several women who wanted to marry me but I fell in the trap and wound up paying 18 years of child support at the same time paying off student loans.

So I really got into chess and bridge for therapy. I got into correspondence chess and when I came home from work I’d pop dinner in the oven and start to analyze game moves. I made lots of friends that way. Politically they tended to be on the Right so we just discussed chess analysis.

However chess computers and software took the fun out of playing correspondence chess and sadly a lot of folks cheat with them when you play on the Net. Now I still play chess on the net every once in a while but I now find more solace in bridge. Also started playing Diplomacy online as well.

I learned the hard way that I’m destined to be single and after the terrible experience where I was never able to bond with my son—family life is not for me. In the immortal words of Ricky Nelson

“If you gotta play at garden parties,
I wish you a lotta luck
But if memories were all I sang,
I’d rather drive a truck
But it’s all right now
I learned my lesson well
See you can’t please everyone
So you got to please yourself!”

be careful with chess. It sucked me in and ate away about 30 years of my life when I could have been making money or engaging with other people. Chess is basically Thinking Man’s porn.

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plansbandc  Jan 2, 2020 • 5:55:21am

re: #16 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

My favorite composer.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 2, 2020 • 5:57:28am

Morning Lizards.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:00:12am
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:11:59am

re: #17 sagehen

Are you close enough to Dallas to go to their comic-con and similar events? People of all ages, panels and/or parties and/or hospitality suites broken down into very specific fandoms, etc.

Yes. I’ve gone before. I’m not sure how you would meet at something like that and make friends.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:13:04am
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:13:37am
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Belafon  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:15:22am
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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:18:38am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s a new year with the same old problems.

Trump being Trump. A reactionary know nothing whose idiocy is damaging our national security and his base ignores his criminal acts because they think it’s pwning the libs.

Meanwhile, Julian Castro has dropped out of the Democratic party field. Money. It’s all about the money. Doesn’t matter how good your ideas are. If you don’t have the donor base, it’s not going to matter.

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:22:48am

So, here’s another way to compare/contrast the money in the race.

For Democrats who have announced their fundraising totals so far:
Bernie took in $34.5 million.
Buttigieg took in $24.7 million.
Yang took in $16.5 million.

Trump apparently took in $46 million in 4Q 2019. That means Democrats outraised Trump by a huge margin.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:30:26am

re: #27 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s a new year with the same old problems.

Trump being Trump. A reactionary know nothing whose idiocy is damaging our national security and his base ignores his criminal acts because they think it’s pwning the libs.

Meanwhile, Julian Castro has dropped out of the Democratic party field. Money. It’s all about the money. Doesn’t matter how good your ideas are. If you don’t have the donor base, it’s not going to matter.

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Shame. Liked him. And you’re right. It’s all about money.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:32:05am

re: #26 Belafon

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I hate what passes for political discourse in most places in this country these days. The center left has a place and I’m glad it’s here on Lgf.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:32:23am

re: #28 lawhawk

So, here’s another way to compare/contrast the money in the race.

For Democrats who have announced their fundraising totals so far:
Bernie took in $34.5 million.
Buttigieg took in $24.7 million.
Yang took in $16.5 million.

Trump apparently took in $46 million in 4Q 2019. That means Democrats outraised Trump by a huge margin.

A lot of trump’s money is going to be wasted on making trump rich (parties at his hotels, fees to his kids/in laws, etc).

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:32:33am
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jeffreyw  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:35:11am

Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:37:21am

re: #32 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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When I think good people, I think of Michael Flynn offering to do hits for Erdogan and Paul Manafort protecting a Kremlin backed regime in Kyiv and spreading disinformation about pro-western and democracy elements at Vlad’s behest.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:38:08am
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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:39:26am

re: #31 I Would Prefer Not To

Legal defense fund.

He can legitimately use the campaign funds to pay for his legal defense.

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:40:23am

re: #35 makeitstop

And since Mulvaney was both OMB and Chief of Staff, he knew that it was breaking the law, and didn’t care. He conspired with Trump to withhold the aid - meaning that he needs to be held to account.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:42:18am

re: #31 I Would Prefer Not To

A lot of trump’s money is going to be wasted on making trump rich (parties at his hotels, fees to his kids/in laws, etc).

A lot of the Democratic money is going to be worse than wasted—used to subtly or overtly kneecap the survivor.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:42:40am

re: #35 makeitstop

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The more that comes out, the more we see why impeachment was necessary and why removal will too. He threatened their and our national security to get dirt on a rival.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:43:56am

Understatement of the century.

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:44:22am

I noticed Mark McGrath was trending. Why would a singer from a totally irrelevant 80s band be big news today, you ask?

Has-beens for Trump…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:51:19am

re: #41 makeitstop

I noticed Mark McGrath was trending. Why would a singer from a totally irrelevant 80s band be big news today, you ask?

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Has-beens for Trump…

90’s. Yeah. Someone’s desperate for a second act. Okay, Xer. ) I’m making fun of McGrath btw because with all the crap boomers and millennials take, Gen X could stand some ribbing.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:58:33am

re: #24 Belafon

Yeah, those certainly aren’t good numbers for Trump.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:58:54am

Good news.

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BlueGrl21  Jan 2, 2020 • 6:59:01am

re: #5 Belafon

My winter break ends tonight. As I go back to work tomorrow, I need to talk about something.

One of the things I did over winter break is read ALL of the Questionable Content online webcomic (I have read huge chunks of it multiple times). It’s a really good comic, but it’s most definitely an adult comic. The strange thing is how depressed it made me. It exposed a giant hole inside me that kind of hurts, the hole being a lack of friends.

I have mostly (not perfect at this) worked really hard most of my life. Some of it was expectations from my family - I was the first person to go to and graduate from college (even if it took 17 years) - but a huge portion of it was self motivation. I studied so hard in college that I burnt out. My solution, because I didn’t know what else to do, was to move from MA back to Texas. Then I joined the Navy. When I was in the Navy, I studied software development. When I got out, I came back to Texas. I worked, went to college, had two kids, and still studied non-school related software development in my free time. Even after my degrees, I still studied in my free time, though that was shortened due to children commitments. I’ve jumped jobs in part for the pay, but at times because of other factors, such as getting out of Nortel before it completely collapsed.

But this break the lack of friends caught up with me. I think what QC kind of hit was that I don’t have any friends that I can relate to. The problem with being a liberal geek at a job full of conservatives is not that they don’t agree with me on politics, it’s that most of them don’t like even a few of the things I like. The one group that I do relate to are the recent college grads, who are the age of my children. They’re the people who I can talk about anime or similar American cartoons, gaming, and cosplay.

So I’ve gone into a funk. I can’t concentrate very well. I’ve done almost no reading except for the above mentioned webcomic. And I have seriously moped.

The hard part is how to fix it. Being and atheist, I’m not going to church, which is the big thing to do here in Rockwall. And the kids parents I know about are pretty conservative, the kind that put Blue Lives Matter signs in their yards, send their kids to summer Bible camps and definitely vote for Trump.

I have found a place in Garland where I can go to meet up for D&D. So I really have to figure out how to build up a friend group from nothing, and with people who probably aren’t close to where I live.

It’s not quite a mid-life crisis, but the end of this year kind of punched me in the gut.

Edited slightly.

I could have written exactly this, Belafon. Going through the same thing, down to the job you do, the people around you, and the loneliness. It’s punching me in the gut too.

I’m going to work next year on growing friendships. I am pretty introverted and very shy but I can do it.

I have nothing pithy to say for either of us about 2020 being our year. But I believe it will get better.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:02:16am

re: #22 Patricia Kayden

The GOP is heading for an electoral disaster - maybe not exactly this year, but in the not-too-distant future if they don’t find a way to claw themselves back from the abyss.

There aren’t going to be enough rural/white Evangelical/white Catholic voters to save them. And from what I’m seeing, the GOP seems to be going all in on that narrow segment of the electorate, hoping to stave off the inevitable.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:04:34am

Christian Post wrote a pro trump op ed after what Christianity Today wrote.
Their political editor Napp Nazworth wasn’t pleased, so he quit and wrote this scathing op-ed for The Bulwark

it’ll take two minutes to read

it starts with a list of distractions to ‘strip away’:

And to answer the real question—the primary question—you have to strip all of those other considerations away.

- It doesn’t matter how many conservative justices he appointed.
- It doesn’t matter how pro-life he is.
- It doesn’t matter how many people voted for him.
- It doesn’t matter how Christian, or not, his values are.

on and on

he then clearly states what the house R’s have been vehemently arguing against:

- The two articles of impeachment passed by the U.S. House of Representatives…are most certainly impeachable offenses….And presidents can’t be held accountable to the most representative branch of government if they are allowed to obstruct Congress.

Finally,

…when the trial takes place, we should all—especially our senators—put aside partisan loyalties and look at the evidence with an open mind.

If the evidence shows that Trump is guilty of the charges against him, then he should be removed from office.

And if he isn’t, then he shouldn’t be.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:05:37am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

The GOP is heading for an electoral disaster - maybe not exactly this year, but in the not-too-distant future if they don’t find a way to claw themselves back from the abyss.

There aren’t going to be enough rural/white Evangelical/white Catholics voters to save them. And from what I’m seeing, the GOP seems to be going all in on that narrow segment of the electorate, hoping to stave off the inevitable.

I think they hope they can have an Apartheid like reality exist. I don’t know. I have to say. I hope a middle course emerges from the battles on the left between the more leftist types economically and the more conventional types like Biden and Pete. I think that’s why I was so drawn to Castro, O’Rourke, Harris, and others. I’m a social liberal first. I can tolerate a fair range of economic opinions as long as you believe in liberal social views and agree that you need to give people some services to help them out.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:08:23am

re: #45 BlueGrl21

I could have written exactly this, Belafon. Going through the same thing, down to the job you do, the people around you, and the loneliness. It’s punching me in the gut too.

I’m going to work next year on growing friendships. I am pretty introverted and very shy but I can do it.

I have nothing pithy to say for either of us about 2020 being our year. But I believe it will get better.

Join and serve an existing purposeful group. It could be political or whatever.

If you show up at a Habitat build with a cheap hammer, they’ll hand you a real hammer. When the house is finished in a couple months you will have a set of the best kind of friends. And you’ll know how to lay a roof. And someone will have a house.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:12:12am

re: #48 HappyWarrior

I think the GOP’s endgame is the perpetuation of a white, Christian, patriarchal ruling class - their efforts at voter suppression and disenfranchisement are clearly aimed at producing that result and I’m pretty sure that they’ll ramp up those efforts even more as their share of the electorate shrinks further.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:15:42am

Hola and Happy Belated New Year, Lizards (I’ve been away)! Hope every is doing well and looking forward to voting out the orange assclown this year! Cheers

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BigPapa  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:16:29am

Who the hell is Matt Stoller and WTF is this? I’m trying to read it objectively but it’s a mess. No president is perfect but it’s sorta odd push this angle at this time unless your motivation is to push ‘Democrat dysfunction.’ As if that’s going to help.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:17:21am

How much of that $46 million that Trump raised is from foreign sources?

Asking for about 350 million friends.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:20:23am

re: #52 BigPapa

There is a contingent of lefties who hate President Obama. Just listen to Sam Seder from the Majority Report, for example. President Obama never ran or claimed to be a socialist. He ran in the middle and governed from the middle. I don’t see how some on the left missed that.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:21:24am

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

How much of that $46 million that Trump raised is from foreign sources?

Asking for about 350 million friends.

Probably a good-sized chunk of it. Granted, it’s a little more difficult for the Kremlin to launder money through the NRA this time, but I’m sure they’ll find alternative sources easily enough.

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:24:31am

re: #55 Dr Lizardo

Well, Parnas delivered foreign money to the GOP, state GOP orgs, and even Trump himself.

Follow the money, and it inevitably turns up Russian backed oligarchs.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:25:08am
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BigPapa  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:25:18am

re: #54 Patricia Kayden

There is a contingent of lefties who hate President Obama. Just listen to Sam Seder from the Majority Report, for example.

Yeah, I’ve noticed that. And they sure want to keep discussing it 3 years after he’s gone. The question is why. Roundabout support for Old Yeller? Plain old white liberal racism?

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:30:51am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

The GOP is heading for an electoral disaster - maybe not exactly this year, but in the not-too-distant future if they don’t find a way to claw themselves back from the abyss.

There aren’t going to be enough rural/white Evangelical/white Catholic voters to save them. And from what I’m seeing, the GOP seems to be going all in on that narrow segment of the electorate, hoping to stave off the inevitable.

they are:
- destroying the Constitution in order to achieve their evangelical goals. this won’t bode well short term when a dem’s in the office, nor long term for everyone
- driving young people to abandon evangelical/fundamentalist based christianity as well as religion overall.

these are not long term winning strategies

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:33:09am

re: #59 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

The GOP is only thinking ahead to the next election cycle. They don’t seem to have any sort of clearly defined long-term vision beyond “get elected and impose our rule on everyone else”.

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BigPapa  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:38:58am

Stoller got duped by the deceptively edited Biden video, which Eclectic Brotha noted came out right after new polling showing Bernie way behind Biden with black folk.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:39:24am

re: #54 Patricia Kayden

There is a contingent of lefties who hate President Obama. Just listen to Sam Seder from the Majority Report, for example. President Obama never ran or claimed to be a socialist. He ran in the middle and governed from the middle. I don’t see how some on the left missed that.

As far as I’m concerned Obama succeeded. He made our government lead on issues we had not been. He’s not a leftist. And I’m glad. Leftists are too ideologically rigid just like rightists and capitalists.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:48:25am

re: #58 BigPapa

Yeah, I’ve noticed that. And they sure want to keep discussing it 3 years after he’s gone. The question is why. Roundabout support for Old Yeller? Plain old white liberal racism?

Because he didn’t give them everything they wanted. It doesn’t matter we got SSM legalized under Obama, expanded health care, began the loosening of federal marijuana illegality, got out of the Great Recession. Because Obama didn’t give them universal health care, full out legalization, or put Bush or the bankers on trial, he’s a failure to them. Obama was in a tough situation and I think he performed admirably.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:48:57am

re: #44 Patricia Kayden

Good news.

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1. these wage increases are from either blue state legislatures, or voter initiatives. In both cases, republicans campaigned against them.

2. trumpets are going to use them as evidence of “wages ticking up in trump’s economy.”

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:49:33am

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

Now? LOL.

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:52:08am

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Because he didn’t give them everything they wanted. It doesn’t matter we got SSM legalized under Obama, expanded health care, began the loosening of federal marijuana illegality, got out of the Great Recession. Because Obama didn’t give them universal health care, full out legalization, or put Bush or the bankers on trial, he’s a failure to them. Obama was in a tough situation and I think he performed admirably.

And Democrats around him failed him - by not supporting Obamacare as fully as they should have. They didn’t make the case, and let GOP define it to the public, instead of taking ownership for the single biggest reduction in uninsured rate in recent history.

Democrats also failed when it came to doing more to stop McConnell blocking Obama judicial picks. They didn’t take midterms seriously enough, and GOPers got to pack the bench for the next 20-40 years with right wing extremists thanks to their apathy.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:55:29am

re: #66 lawhawk

And Democrats around him failed him - by not supporting Obamacare as fully as they should have. They didn’t make the case, and let GOP define it to the public, instead of taking ownership for the single biggest reduction in uninsured rate in recent history.

Democrats also failed when it came to doing more to stop McConnell blocking Obama judicial picks. They didn’t take midterms seriously enough, and GOPers got to pack the bench for the next 20-40 years with right wing extremists thanks to their apathy.

Exactly. I love parts of my generation but they thought electing Obama would be this panacea. It was never supposed to be that and Obama constantly reminded them of that but so many young people are drawn to politicians like yes Bernie who promise that. Progress isn’t an event, it’s a journey.

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:55:44am

So, Michael Savage apparently walked into a hipster bar and found someone who didn’t like NYC so they moved out.

The odds that someone moved out because of crime is far lower than someone moving out because they don’t like the fact that NYC is increasingly home to folks from all around the world, and is less white than it used to be. Crime rates keep dropping under DeBlasio, so crime isn’t the reason.

It’s because the white bigots are outnumbered.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:56:48am

re: #5 Belafon

But this break the lack of friends caught up with me. I think what QC kind of hit was that I don’t have any friends that I can relate to. The problem with being a liberal geek at a job full of conservatives is not that they don’t agree with me on politics, it’s that most of them don’t like even a few of the things I like. The one group that I do relate to are the recent college grads, who are the age

Two words: Disc Golf (aka Frisbee Golf). Currently the fastest growing sport. Inexpensive in dollars and time. Great fun for all ages: I began twenty years ago at the age of 52 and it has majorly contributed to the best 20 years of my life: pdga.com.

Amazing camaraderie, *unmatched egalitarianism* and sense of community; new friends in minutes at any of the 6,000+ courses in the US. Fun for low skills, walk in the woods throwing a Frisbee, or extremely competitive, you choose.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:57:33am

re: #61 BigPapa

Stoller got duped by the deceptively edited Biden video, which Eclectic Brotha noted came out right after new polling showing Bernie way behind Biden with black folk.

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I was reading that the ancient Slovenians practiced some forms of elementary democracy. The thing is we borrow from a lot of different traditions in our culture both indigenous and from distant shores.

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:58:06am

Meanwhile, Jared and Ivanka are going to the World Economic Forum to rub shoulders with world leaders - the same ones who openly laugh at these two for their abject lack of subject matter knowledge and experience.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:58:18am

re: #68 lawhawk

So, Michael Savage apparently walked into a hipster bar and found someone who didn’t like NYC so they moved out.

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The odds that someone moved out because of crime is far lower than someone moving out because they don’t like the fact that NYC is increasingly home to folks from all around the world, and is less white than it used to be. Crime rates keep dropping under DeBlasio, so crime isn’t the reason.

It’s because the white bigots are outnumbered.

They sure aren’t flocking to Red America:

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BigPapa  Jan 2, 2020 • 7:58:47am

Anti-corporate populists are just as bad as conservatives. Every time I see a leftist use ‘corporatist’ as a slur it makes me realize the right would not have the power they do if they didn’t have the complicit left: the right loves corporations, the anti-corporate left hates them so much they won’t support a Dem unless the Dem wants to destroy them all. The results are the same.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:01:26am

We wanted a savior I concede in 2008 because yeah Bush’s wars and economy was exhausting but it was never going to be solved by one ideological approach let alone man or party so yeah I think a lot of people projected onto Obama. Obama was and is a realist. If there’s a true center in this country, it’s what Obama hoped to achieve and I think we would be if HRC had been able to continue his work.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:05:21am

re: #73 BigPapa

Anti-corporate populists are just as bad as conservatives. Every time I see a leftist use ‘corporatist’ as a slur it makes me realize the right would not have the power they do if they didn’t have the complicit left: the right loves corporations, the anti-corporate left hates them so much they won’t support a Dem unless the Dem wants to destroy them all. The results are the same.

I remember Sanders’ surrogates in the media, cough Sirota attacking O’Rourke for “taking corporate money”, it turned out that Beto had just gotten a lot of donations from the many Texans employed by the oil and gas industry. Bernie’s taken money from people employed by the defense industry. Ain’t no one on the left calling Bernie a tool of the military industrial complex because of that. My problem with the new left is they’re hypocritical and honestly uninterested in real goverance. They’d rather be right than work for a solution and I think that’s the real legacy of the Tea Party for both left and right. I don’t always agree with the Democratic establishment but I see them as at interested in working for process and working based on facts and reality. I don’t see that with those who despise them for “selling” out.

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Mescalero09  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:05:58am

After a bit of insight? Coffee? Reality slap? WTF knows….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:08:49am

I’m just sick of dogmatists when it comes to economics. Smug ass libertarian bros who insist Capitalism can do no wrong and smug ass tankies who think if you don’t embrace what they call Socialism, you must be a greedy asshole. It’s not that fucking simple. Economic ideological absolutism is the problem and I blame supply side right wingers for most of that shit but I also blame parts of the left too for thinking we could just replicate the Nordic states here and all will be fine. It’s not that I don’t think we can learn from them. It’s that the political culture here is different and they refuse to acknowledge that.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:08:54am

re: #58 BigPapa

I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they were bitterly disappointed that President Obama wasn’t as leftist or progressive as they wanted or expected him to be. I wouldn’t claim that they want Trump to win because many of them loathe Trump and what he stands for. I loved President Obama and he accomplished more than I expected given what he was up against once Congress flipped Republican.

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BigPapa  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:10:24am

I’ve been searching for the perfect term for the ‘Tea Party’ left but so far the best I can do is Pot Party. I know there’s something better. The current Talibern/YoungTurk left are rabid reactionary idealists fomented by influence: instead of corporate Astroturf funding this new Pot Party left is juiced up by Russia and the right.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:10:29am

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Thank you. You put it better than I did.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:11:02am

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they were bitterly disappointed that President Obama wasn’t as leftist or progressive as they wanted or expected him to be. I wouldn’t claim that they want Trump to win because many of them loathe Trump and what he stands for. I loved President Obama and he accomplished more than I expected given what he was up against once Congress flipped Republican.

I think the disappointment was real. I think what’s been frustrating to me is how they’re responding to that disappointment. I don’t like Sanders because I really see the non-ideological elements of Trump I dislike- closed-minded, egocentric, one track mind, etc in Bernie and the movement he’s trying to create. My ideal path for the left really would be unfortunately in those candidates that failed to resonate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:12:56am

re: #76 Mescalero09

After a bit of insight? Coffee? Reality slap? WTF knows….

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The Times just seems to love to step in it again and again.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:15:03am

re: #76 Mescalero09

After a bit of insight? Coffee? Reality slap? WTF knows….

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Coming up next—Clint Eastwood’s next movie glorifying Gallagher…

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:15:25am

Doctor Who.

I know they try not to be political. Or at least try to be as subtle as possible about it, but.

Last night’s episode.

The Master has returned. He’s using Facebook and Twitter and Google to take over the world.

Presumably, part 2 on Sunday the doctor will save us.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:15:58am

re: #79 BigPapa

I’ve been searching for the perfect term for the ‘Tea Party’ left but so far the best I can do is Pot Party. I know there’s something better. The current Talibern/YoungTurk left are rabid reactionary idealists fomented by influence: instead of corporate Astroturf funding this new Pot Party left is juiced up by Russia and the right.

Purity Ponies.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:16:07am

re: #79 BigPapa

I’ve been searching for the perfect term for the ‘Tea Party’ left but so far the best I can do is Pot Party. I know there’s something better. The current Talibern/YoungTurk left are rabid reactionary idealists fomented by influence: instead of corporate Astroturf funding this new Pot Party left is juiced up by Russia and the right.

One thing is for sure, I don’t go to Joe Rogan or Cenk and his friends for influence. I read what I already know, those I know, and that/those I want to know more about. I’m willing to seek out people in the distant past like Franklin for political inspiration but also modern leaders like Slovakia’s President who continues to impress me with her democratic and pluralistic style of leadership in a multi-ethnic nation like that one.

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BigPapa  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:18:41am

People seem to forget that broad coalitions are strongest. That’s what sucked about Harris: she had broad support among consitutencies but it was the other things working against her. Obama had broad support. Clinton did as well but had a coalition of forces working against her.

Purity poltics sure don’t win elections and govern. .

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:20:22am

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

Thank you. You put it better than I did.

I mean do I have some disappointments with Obama? Of course. I think he could have been more direct leading on immigration but I also believe we’re products of our circumstances. Obama had to deal with a right wing opposition that didn’t acknowledge him as a fellow American and a left wing one with jerks like Bill Maher and Michael Moore who want him to act like their idea of a black man. Obama is his own man. He’s as much a product of his immigrant father and his multi-generation Kansas mother. What I like about the Dem Congressional leadership at least in the House is how there’s a strong progressive yet pragmatic side to them. Pragmatic progressivism seems to be losing with people my age and I think that’s a shame.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:24:18am

Anyhow time to read. Thanks for listening to me grant.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:24:46am

Who wants to tell him how centuries work?

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:24:53am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

We wanted a savior I concede in 2008 because yeah Bush’s wars and economy was exhausting but it was never going to be solved by one ideological approach let alone man or party so yeah I think a lot of people projected onto Obama. Obama was and is a realist. If there’s a true center in this country, it’s what Obama hoped to achieve and I think we would be if HRC had been able to continue his work.

obama is a great orator
and he delivered what he could

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:25:42am

re: #84 sagehen

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:28:48am

re: #90 Dr. Matt

Who wants to tell him how centuries work?

A Democratic President was impeached for lying about a sexual affair, you got impeached for abusing your power to get dirt on a political opponent from a geopolitical ally in danger from a geopolitical foe that you can’t ever criticize. Go the fuck away you rotten authoritarian aspiring asshole.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:35:38am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

I remember Sanders’ surrogates in the media, cough Sirota attacking O’Rourke for “taking corporate money”, it turned out that Beto had just gotten a lot of donations from the many Texans employed by the oil and gas industry. Bernie’s taken money from people employed by the defense industry. Ain’t no one on the left calling Bernie a tool of the military industrial complex because of that. My problem with the new left is they’re hypocritical and honestly uninterested in real goverance. They’d rather be right than work for a solution and I think that’s the real legacy of the Tea Party for both left and right. I don’t always agree with the Democratic establishment but I see them as at interested in working for process and working based on facts and reality. I don’t see that with those who despise them for “selling” out.

I’m not sure they actually want to win and govern any more than DT did. They just want to attack those who are trying to govern.

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:41:05am

Julian Castro’s Story Should Cause the Democratic Party to Reflect on How It Chooses Candidates, Charlie Pierce

Julian Castro announced on Thursday that he was suspending his campaign for the Democratic nomination for president of the United States. This means that there is no longer a Latino presence in the field. This means that there is no longer a Latino presence in a field that still includes two no-hope white millionaires and a crackpot who thinks you can vibe away your cancer. This also means that there will be no candidate on stage at subsequent debates who reads out the names of the victims of police violence, who points out that police violence is gun violence, and who talks as much about poverty as he or she does about the embattled middle class. All of this should make the Democratic Party wonder about how it chooses its candidates, and it should make the country in general melancholy about the state of affairs as the election season begins.

Castro should have been viable all the way to the convention. (This is also true of Jay Inslee and Kamala Harris.) But the merciless criteria of polls and money worked against all three of them. Their ideas will now get atomized and spread out among the remaining candidates, but that process will be obscured by an implacable, faceless wall of spreadsheets.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:42:51am

re: #5 Belafon

My winter break ends tonight. As I go back to work tomorrow, I need to talk about something.

One of the things I did over winter break is read ALL of the Questionable Content online webcomic (I have read huge chunks of it multiple times). It’s a really good comic, but it’s most definitely an adult comic. The strange thing is how depressed it made me. It exposed a giant hole inside me that kind of hurts, the hole being a lack of friends.

I have mostly (not perfect at this) worked really hard most of my life. Some of it was expectations from my family - I was the first person to go to and graduate from college (even if it took 17 years) - but a huge portion of it was self motivation. I studied so hard in college that I burnt out. My solution, because I didn’t know what else to do, was to move from MA back to Texas. Then I joined the Navy. When I was in the Navy, I studied software development. When I got out, I came back to Texas. I worked, went to college, had two kids, and still studied non-school related software development in my free time. Even after my degrees, I still studied in my free time, though that was shortened due to children commitments. I’ve jumped jobs in part for the pay, but at times because of other factors, such as getting out of Nortel before it completely collapsed.

But this break the lack of friends caught up with me. I think what QC kind of hit was that I don’t have any friends that I can relate to. The problem with being a liberal geek at a job full of conservatives is not that they don’t agree with me on politics, it’s that most of them don’t like even a few of the things I like. The one group that I do relate to are the recent college grads, who are the age of my children. They’re the people who I can talk about anime or similar American cartoons, gaming, and cosplay.

So I’ve gone into a funk. I can’t concentrate very well. I’ve done almost no reading except for the above mentioned webcomic. And I have seriously moped.

The hard part is how to fix it. Being and atheist, I’m not going to church, which is the big thing to do here in Rockwall. And the kids parents I know about are pretty conservative, the kind that put Blue Lives Matter signs in their yards, send their kids to summer Bible camps and definitely vote for Trump.

I have found a place in Garland where I can go to meet up for D&D. So I really have to figure out how to build up a friend group from nothing, and with people who probably aren’t close to where I live.

It’s not quite a mid-life crisis, but the end of this year kind of punched me in the gut.

Edited slightly.

My Trumpster brother lives in Garland. So am not sure whether you will find that these people will share your political views. But, then again, the Dallas mayor is a Democrat.

Have you thought about getting involved with local Democratic politics? That will put you in touch with people who share our political views.

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:46:47am

re: #96 Hecuba’s daughter

My Trumpster brother lives in Garland. So am not sure whether you will find that these people will share your political views. But, then again, the Dallas mayor is a Democrat.

Have you thought about getting involved with local Democratic politics? That will put you in touch with people who share our political views.

I tried a couple of years ago. Somehow that group managed to be older than me. They were very good at meeting once a month for lunch.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:49:05am

re: #68 lawhawk

So, Michael Savage apparently walked into a hipster bar and found someone who didn’t like NYC so they moved out.

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The odds that someone moved out because of crime is far lower than someone moving out because they don’t like the fact that NYC is increasingly home to folks from all around the world, and is less white than it used to be. Crime rates keep dropping under DeBlasio, so crime isn’t the reason.

It’s because the white bigots are outnumbered.

A conservative never-Trumper acquaintance keeps on lambasting Illinois and promoting the stories about people leaving the state — but solely because of taxes. People leaving certain blue states tend to be motivated primarily by two factors (1) cost of living/taxes and (2) weather. And for retirees — weather seems the dominant reason (and also — moving to where their children live)

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retired cynic  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:49:41am

Two haiku from The Rude Pundit today:

From Seattle Steamer:
Nancy moves on Trump
Like a bitch. They let you do
that when you’re Speaker.

From Grumpy, Esq:
War Criminal
Eddie Gallagher
Is the George Zimmerman of
William L. Calleys

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:52:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:53:39am

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“wine by the spoon offerings”

O_o

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:55:41am

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

“wine by the spoon offerings”

O_o

“The most original & expensive cocktail program”

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Mike Lamb  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:56:59am

re: #90 Dr. Matt

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Who wants to tell him how centuries work?

Well, the FBI had its thumb on the scale against Clinton, yet no one is in jail…

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BeachDem  Jan 2, 2020 • 8:57:01am

re: #97 Belafon

I tried a couple of years ago. Somehow that group managed to be older than me. They were very good at meeting once a month for lunch.

Any of these sound interesting and/or within convenient distance?

meetup.com

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Belafon  Jan 2, 2020 • 9:02:41am

re: #104 BeachDem

Any of these sound interesting and/or within convenient distance?

meetup.com

Thanks. I’ll look at it at home.

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Jay C  Jan 2, 2020 • 9:25:55am

Interesting diary over at Daily Kos about the latest negotiations between the State of Wisconsin and Chinese tech giant Foxconn over the state of their much-touted (and much-subsidized) BFD electronics plant project in Racine.

Shorter version (at least AFAICT): Foxconn wants to scale back their commitments to the bare minimum, while keeping as much of the State’s cash as possible. What a surprise….

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 9:43:34am

re: #106 Jay C

Interesting diary over at Daily Kos about the latest negotiations between the State of Wisconsin and Chinese tech giant Foxconn over the state of their much-touted (and much-subsidized) BFD electronics plant project in Racine.

Shorter version (at least AFAICT): Foxconn wants to scale back their commitments to the bare minimum, while keeping as much of the State’s cash as possible. What a surprise….

That entire debacle is a scam that enriches Foxconn and cost Wisconsin taxpayers dearly for a handful of jobs. The state should have clawed back all the tax benefits/incentives, but wont or can’t because the state’s clawback provisions are minimal.

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plansbandc  Jan 2, 2020 • 9:54:14am
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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 9:56:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2020 • 9:56:57am

re: #60 Dr Lizardo

The GOP is only thinking ahead to the next election cycle. They don’t seem to have any sort of clearly defined long-term vision beyond “get elected and impose our rule on everyone else”.

Stacking the courts all the way up to SCOTUS is enough to leave them with a legacy comparable to FDR.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2020 • 9:57:31am
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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 9:57:56am

re: #108 plansbandc

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He didn’t livs through Obama. His movement had a childish tantrum and gave us Trump. This stupid cottage industry and self denying bs.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 9:58:37am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

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And our President goes to Q for wisdom.

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 9:59:20am

Apparently for-profit prison companies think that this is somehow wrong or illegal or improper - company sues California over ban on for profit prisons in the state.

For profit prisons benefit the shareholders. They don’t cost states less money, and there’s far more room for mistreatment. It’s part and parcel of the lie that right wingers tell of privatization as saving people money.

It does no such thing. It just means that government is paying a company more to do something that it previously did in-house.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 9:59:44am

re: #114 lawhawk

Apparently for-profit prison companies think that this is somehow wrong or illegal or improper - company sues California over ban on for profit prisons in the state.

For profit prisons benefit the shareholders. They don’t cost states less money, and there’s far more room for mistreatment. It’s part and parcel of the lie that right wingers tell of privatization as saving people money.

It does no such thing. It just means that government is paying a company more to do something that it previously did in-house.

Rehabilitation shouldn’t be for sale.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:00:56am

re: #73 BigPapa

Anti-corporate populists are just as bad as conservatives. Every time I see a leftist use ‘corporatist’ as a slur it makes me realize the right would not have the power they do if they didn’t have the complicit left: the right loves corporations, the anti-corporate left hates them so much they won’t support a Dem unless the Dem wants to destroy them all. The results are the same.

The German AfD is often classified as “ultra-right” or “neo-fascist”, but in the end they are populists: their social and immigration policies are nationalist and conservative but their economic policies are all full of anti-corporate populism.

Nationalism and socialism…what do you call a party that would combine those two elements?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:01:31am

I can’t wait for conservatives to suddenly care about the debt again the second a Democratic President decides revenue should gasp be invested in programs that benefit the American people and not the scum buckets that bankroll the Republican Party.

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:04:06am

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The German AfD is often classified as “ultra-right” or “neo-fascist”, but in the end they are populists: their social and immigration policies are nationalist and conservative but their economic policies are all full of anti-corporate populism.

Nationalism and socialism…what do you call a party that would combine those two elements?

I did Nazi that coming.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:04:19am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:04:31am

re: #68 lawhawk

So, Michael Savage apparently walked into a hipster bar and found someone who didn’t like NYC so they moved out.

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The odds that someone moved out because of crime is far lower than someone moving out because they don’t like the fact that NYC is increasingly home to folks from all around the world, and is less white than it used to be. Crime rates keep dropping under DeBlasio, so crime isn’t the reason.

It’s because the white bigots are outnumbered.

“Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:04:45am

re: #118 lawhawk

I did Nazi that coming.

Soon zey vill all be Danzig in ze schreets!!!

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:04:46am

re: #117 HappyWarrior

I can’t wait for conservatives to suddenly care about the debt again the second a Democratic President decides revenue should gasp be invested in programs that benefit the American people and not the scum buckets that bankroll the Republican Party.

GOPers will caterwaul over the cost of a health care program, when they didn’t care that their tax cuts exploded the debt and deficit by a trillion dollars in a strong economy.

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lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:05:20am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mother, may I?

Danzig - Mother (original)

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makeitstop  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:09:15am

WTAF

Totally on-brand, though.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:11:30am

re: #119 Charles Johnson

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Hell of a read. Joan like me sees a lot of the genesis for 2016 in 2012 and she’s not wrong. Romney was in many ways running a campaign that laid a blueprint for Trump just without swearing and lewdness.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:12:23am

re: #124 makeitstop

WTAF

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Totally on-brand, though.

Yeah that’s normal behavior but tell us more about enlightened conservatives and triggered libs.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:14:18am

I will never forget Romney smugly smiling after Benghazi and running until Trump the most xenophobic campaign of a major party nominee in my lifetime.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:16:14am

re: #127 HappyWarrior

I will never forget Romney smugly smiling after Benghazi and running until Trump the most xenophobic campaign of a major party nominee in my lifetime.

at least he released one year’s worth of tax returns…

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:16:56am

I’m not sure how I feel about Pete but I agree with many twitter commenters that Julian Castro is the real deal that Pete is trying to seem even as he reveals himself as more and more centrist by the day. The Castro brothers, I hope, will stay active on the national level for a long time to come.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:19:46am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

at least he released one year’s worth of tax returns…

The bare minimum. That’s Mitt. I’m just saying that Romney is an asshole who needs to look at his campaign’s own role in making Trump palatable as a political leader.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:20:55am

re: #129 Barefoot Grin

I’m not sure how I feel about Pete but I agree with many twitter commenters that Julian Castro is the real deal that Pete is trying to seem even as he reveals himself as more and more centrist by the day. The Castro brothers, I hope, will stay active on the national level for a long time to come.

I’m so disappointed that Pete is where I think Julián ought to be. The Castro brothers are imo more savvy than Pete is about the issues and our country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:23:09am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

The bare minimum. That’s Mitt. I’m just saying that Romney is an asshole who needs to look at his campaign’s own role in making Trump palatable as a political leader.

Which he had fudged by not taking certain deductions/deferments to make it look like what he paid was more than the mere 14% he declared.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:26:29am

re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which he had fudged by not taking certain deductions/deferments to make it look like what he paid was more than the mere 14% he declared.

As I said Mitt Romney is an asshole even if he votes to remove Trump. Normalizing Kobach and the other nativist is part of why Stephen Miller works in the WH rather than being seen as a strange kook completely disdainful of what makes America work.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:29:06am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s normal behavior but tell us more about enlightened conservatives and triggered libs.

Per the comments: teach kiddos not to trespass or touch things that belong to others.
And, hahahahhahahahhahaha

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:29:07am

re: #124 makeitstop

WTAF

[Embedded content]

Totally on-brand, though.

Probably staged.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:30:59am

re: #134 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Per the comments: teach kiddos not to trespass or touch things that belong to others.
And, hahahahhahahahhahaha

This is the mindset that thinks it’s okay to run over protesters who disagree with you. Fuck the anti abortion and anti gay rights nuts but anyone who resorts to violence over disagreement is a coward.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:31:53am

re: #135 The Pie Overlord!

Probably staged.

I pay it little attention except as an attempt to paint all who oppose Trump as deranged, intolerant and prone to illegal acts.

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Jay C  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:34:25am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I pay it little attention except as an attempt to paint all who oppose Trump as deranged, intolerant and prone to illegal acts.

And of course, chortled over because of its bonus cruelty (the shock). Hurr hurr hurr…..

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:36:19am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I pay it little attention except as an attempt to paint all who oppose Trump as deranged, intolerant and prone to illegal acts.

It makes Trump supporters look that way. I mean yeah stealing yard signs is lame but shocking someone over it? Makes you look like a petty brat but then again that’s Dan Bongino’s entire existence since he left the Secret Service. He’s a meathead ass with no original thoughts or insights who thinks he’s hot shit on Twitter when he’s really just an echo chamber.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:37:12am

re: #138 Jay C

And of course, chortled over because of its bonus cruelty (the shock). Hurr hurr hurr…..

Conservatives are constantly looking for ways to justify violence against thei ideological opponents which is why so many of them love Pinochet.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:39:20am
142
lawhawk  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:40:46am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I pay it little attention except as an attempt to paint all who oppose Trump as deranged, intolerant and prone to illegal acts.

Hence, I think that it may be staged, as a way to deliver confirmation bias proof to the base.

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gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:46:34am
144
gocart mozart  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:48:26am
145
danarchy  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:49:08am

re: #139 HappyWarrior

It makes Trump supporters look that way. I mean yeah stealing yard signs is lame but shocking someone over it? Makes you look like a petty brat but then again that’s Dan Bongino’s entire existence since he left the Secret Service. He’s a meathead ass with no original thoughts or insights who thinks he’s hot shit on Twitter when he’s really just an echo chamber.

The tweet was from Dan Scavino not Bongino. Different douche, this one is actually in charge of social media for Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:50:01am

re: #143 gocart mozart

“our greatest Warfighters”

jezuz godd

147
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:52:36am

re: #144 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

So fucking stupid…..

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 2, 2020 • 10:57:19am

Of course, The Right worships war criminal Eddie Gallagher. They thought murderer George Zimmerman was a hero too.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 2, 2020 • 11:00:02am

re: #144 gocart mozart

What pit of craziness is that twitter thread? And I went further into the nutjobs by reading
and I feel ill.

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sagehen  Jan 2, 2020 • 11:02:42am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“our greatest Warfighters”

jezuz godd

Here’s our actual greatest warfighters:

anti-fascists preparing to demolish a white supremacist, anti-semitic regime.

151
Dr Lizardo  Jan 2, 2020 • 11:03:16am

re: #147 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sounds like a schizoid.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 2, 2020 • 11:22:00am

re: #145 danarchy

The tweet was from Dan Scavino not Bongino. Different douche, this one is actually in charge of social media for Trump.

Ah my bad.

153
Eventual Carrion  Jan 2, 2020 • 11:53:16am

re: #135 The Pie Overlord!

Probably staged.

That was my first thought

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 2, 2020 • 11:55:40am

re: #147 Joe Bacon 🌹

[Embedded content]

So fucking stupid…..

Wait - the 5th Dimension? So….. the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius?

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 2, 2020 • 11:56:05am

re: #141 Colère Tueur de Lapin

xkcd.com

Yes, back to the year 0 (zero) thing.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 2, 2020 • 12:03:46pm

re: #147 Joe Bacon 🌹

[Embedded content]

So fucking stupid…..

It’s the dawning of The Age of Aquarius


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