Bolton Is "Prepared to Testify" in Trump's Impeachment Trial

Bolton Is “Prepared to Testify” in Trump’s Impeachment Trial

PoliticsJanuary 2020 • Views: 23,335

Former national security adviser and rabid war-hawk Islamophobe John Bolton is now saying he’s willing to testify in the Senate impeachment trial… if he’s subpoenaed.

The House has concluded its Constitutional responsibility by adopting Articles of Impeachment related to the Ukraine matter. It now falls to the Senate to fulfill its Constitutional obligation to try impeachments, and it does not appear possible that a final judicial resolution of the still-unanswered Constitutional questions can be obtained before the Senate acts.

Accordingly, since my testimony is once again at issue, I have had to resolve the serious competing issues as best I could, based on careful consideration and study. I have concluded that, if the Senate issues a subpoena for my testimony, I am prepared to testify.

This could be bad news for Donald Trump, depending on how much ill will Bolton has toward him. On the other hand, it wouldn’t be the least bit surprising if he does testify but does his best to whitewash Trump’s crimes.

UPDATE at 1/6/20 10:25:04 am by Charles Johnson

Adam Schiff weighs in:

Bolton is an important witness to misconduct involving Ukraine that he called a “drug deal.”

Bolton refused to testify in the House, following Trump’s orders.

Now he is willing to come forward. The Senate must allow testimony from him, Mulvaney and others. The coverup must end. https://t.co/3JCaw8W8y3

— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) January 6, 2020

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286 comments

I Would Prefer Not To Jan 6, 2020 • 10:18:20am

Its a tarp.

lawhawk Jan 6, 2020 • 10:21:08am

Wow from NYT:

“People close to Bolton have indicated his testimony would likely be damning to Trump and put additional pressure on moderate Republicans to consider convicting him. That could fundamentally change the dynamics around the impeachment trial”https://t.co/qnFViweSMq

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 6, 2020

If Bolton’s willing to testify for the Senate after getting a subpoena, he sure as fuck can testify before the House as to the same.

But this is about pressuring the GOP controlled Senate to allow witnesses, and if he doesn’t testify in the Senate, you can be sure that the House will set up counterprogramming with Bolton’s testimony front and center.

lawhawk Jan 6, 2020 • 10:21:50am

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

Its a tarp.

TARP? That’s a successful bailout.

A trap? That’s what happens when you have a know-nothing running the US foreign policy into the ground to the benefit of foreign powers.

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2020 • 10:27:17am

Bolton is an important witness to misconduct involving Ukraine that he called a “drug deal.”

Bolton refused to testify in the House, following Trump’s orders.

Now he is willing to come forward. The Senate must allow testimony from him, Mulvaney and others. The coverup must end. https://t.co/3JCaw8W8y3

— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) January 6, 2020

Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag) Jan 6, 2020 • 10:32:38am

re: #3 lawhawk

TARP? That’s a successful bailout.

A trap? That’s what happens when you have a know-nothing running the US foreign policy into the ground to the benefit of foreign powers.

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

this is a tarp

It’s a tarp!

I Would Prefer Not To Jan 6, 2020 • 10:34:09am

That’s it, I’m giving up stand up.

Jay C Jan 6, 2020 • 10:34:12am

re: #3 lawhawk

TARP? That’s a successful bailout.

A trap? That’s what happens when you have a know-nothing running the US foreign policy into the ground to the benefit of foreign powers.

1. I think IWPNT was being sarcastic (“it’s a tarp” is a common Internet joke)

2. This could be a trap, in fact: that Bolton’s testimony could be “damning” to Trump is a pretty common assumption, though with this gang of cretins, the idea of “pulling a fast one” - where Bolton gets up and testifies that Trump did absolutely nothing wrong, etc - and then Mitch McConnell and the Senate GOP rush a vote to dismiss all charges and hip hooray - shouldn’t be dismissed out of hand.
Not that they WILL do it, of course: but I’m sure the IDEA has been floated in the WH by some imbecile or other.

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 10:34:59am

I’ll believe what the mustachioed motherfather says when he testifies before the House Intelligence Committee.

garzooma Jan 6, 2020 • 10:35:08am

re: #181 makeitstop

[from previous thread]
I’d love to see them play hell with Trump properties - not necessarily property damage, but […]

Property damage would be useless, since his properties burst into flames on their own (see here). :-)

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2020 • 10:37:25am

Welp, I see Ricky Gervais has completed his transformation into a MAGA - a Make America Great Asshole.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2020

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 10:37:33am

re: #9 garzooma

Property damage would be useless, since his properties burst into flames on their own (see here). :-)

https://t.co/ToZiMYvsk8

— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) January 6, 2020

Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag) Jan 6, 2020 • 10:39:46am

as to the op,

once you’ve stated that you’re willing to speak and not pre-claim any sort of exec priv, then you dont get to decide whose legal demand for testimony you will honor or whose you will ignore

lawhawk Jan 6, 2020 • 10:44:55am

re: #7 Jay C

I doubt that Bolton’s going to say that Trump didn’t do anything wrong, when Hill’s testified to the fact Bolton had her come forward because he thought Trump did something wrong.

HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 10:46:02am

re: #13 lawhawk

I doubt that Bolton’s going to say that Trump didn’t do anything wrong, when Hill’s testified to the fact Bolton had her come forward because he thought Trump did something wrong.

Have to agree and I can’t see Bolton having any sort of loyalty to Trump at all.

Rightwingconspirator Jan 6, 2020 • 10:47:15am

Okay so why is it he would not testify to congress? Or had his guy fight the very idea?

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 10:47:46am

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Have to agree and I can’t see Bolton having any sort of loyalty to Trump at all.

Trump’s Pulpit Pimps are gonna have to double down on the praying to JC and his Sonshine Band when Bolton goes public!

Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 10:49:24am

re: #15 Rightwingconspirator

Okay so why is it he would not testify to congress? Or had his guy fight the very idea?

His excuse on not testifying to the House is that he needed a subpoena, which Trump was challenging through the courts. It will be the same issue with the Senate.

Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2020 • 10:49:47am

Have we really reached such a fucked up point in American politics where our hopes are riding on John Bolton and his horrible mustache to tip the scales against Trump?

Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 10:51:14am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Have we really reached such a fucked up point in American politics where our hopes are riding on John Bolton and his horrible mustache to tip the scales against Trump?

I’m not hoping for anything related to Bolton. I’m almost entirely focused on the elections this fall. Anything that brings Trump down before then will be bonus.

Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag) Jan 6, 2020 • 10:52:56am

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

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BREAKING: intel suggests Iranians have successfully launched a covert attack on Trump properties, infesting them with bedbugs and sabotaging them with bad food, ugly formica, and a design scheme stolen from Saddam’s abandoned palaceshttps://t.co/Wg9lr8Pc9S

— TwoArticleHat (@Popehat) January 6, 2020

HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 10:54:35am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Have we really reached such a fucked up point in American politics where our hopes are riding on John Bolton and his horrible mustache to tip the scales against Trump?

Yes.

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2020 • 10:54:53am

Wow, instant pile-on by Ricky Gervais fans for that one.

Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag) Jan 6, 2020 • 10:55:48am

The President & Sen. McConnell have run out of excuses. They must allow key witnesses to testify, and produce the documents Trump has blocked, so Americans can see the facts for themselves.

The Senate cannot be complicit in the President’s cover-up. #DefendOurDemocracy https://t.co/TQLJsfn0f5

— Nancy Pelosi (@SpeakerPelosi) January 6, 2020

Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Jan 6, 2020 • 10:57:58am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Wow, instant pile-on by Ricky Gervais fans for that one.

I really liked his most recent series, “After Life”, in which he plays a complete asshole, but I think he forgot to hang up the role when the series ended.

jaunte Jan 6, 2020 • 10:59:37am

If John Bolton really wants to tell us whatever he knows about Trump, he can just tell us what he knows about Trump.

It’s not like Americans are prohibited from speaking unless they are called to testify before a congressional committee.

— Ian Millhiser (@imillhiser) January 6, 2020

The country is in a crisis and he’s demanding a subpoena. Fuck Bolton.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 11:05:25am

.@RepJohnYarmuth set to speak at @MoveOn impeachment event in Frankfort. pic.twitter.com/HGoHHwOj3z

— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) January 6, 2020

Yarmuth’s parting words for McConnell on impeachment: pic.twitter.com/QDSepOXMfH

— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) January 6, 2020

don’t hold back, John!

William Lewis Jan 6, 2020 • 11:05:43am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Wow, instant pile-on by Ricky Gervais fans for that one.

Is it a bad thing that I googled his name and still don’t have a clue who he is or why I should give a fuck what he thinks?

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2020 • 11:05:56am

re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I really liked his most recent series, “After Life”, in which he plays a complete asshole, but I think he forgot to hang up the role when the series ended.

That wasn’t an act.

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2020 • 11:06:53am

uh wut?

So that is your standard now for qualifying a MAGA asshole? Good lord. What’s next for you? Telling 7 y.o. boys roughhousing in a playground to curb their toxic masculinity? This shit is nuts! I suppose Chappelle is MAGA according to you?

— Sean Goris (@SeanGoris) January 6, 2020

Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 11:07:18am

re: #27 William Lewis

Is it a bad thing that I googled his name and still don’t have a clue who he is or why I should give a fuck what he thinks?

He was in charge of the Museum in the Night at the Museum movies. He was also the host at the Golden Globes last night.

Hecuba's daughter Jan 6, 2020 • 11:08:36am

re: #25 jaunte

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The country is in a crisis and he’s demanding a subpoena. Fuck Bolton.

Money!! Book sales!! Book sales!!

When is his book ready to be published? Maybe Nancy should delay until reporters have access to the first draft of his magnum opus.

Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 11:09:04am

He was also the boss in the British version of The Office.

William Lewis Jan 6, 2020 • 11:10:02am

re: #30 Belafon

He was in charge of the Museum in the Night at the Museum movies. He was also the host at the Golden Globes last night.

IOW a meaningless actor who I don’t know because I never bothered to watch the so called comedies he was in? Gotcha.

jaunte Jan 6, 2020 • 11:15:31am

was air cover scrambled? When were Trump & Esper notified? What did they do? Where was every last Navy ship in the region? Did they receive warnings of an impending attack? On what server were those warnings stored?

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) January 6, 2020

makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 11:15:32am

re: #32 Belafon

He was also the boss in the British version of The Office.

Also one of the hosts of a show called An Idiot Abroad, where they took some yob and sent him to various spots around the globe.

Hecuba's daughter Jan 6, 2020 • 11:17:43am

Re: Bolton. Despite his other sins — and they are legend — he wants America to bestride the world like colossus, and Trump is succeeding in reducing our nation to an ineffectual laughing stock. So a real conflict for him: he desires war with Iran but hates Trump for his damage to our status in the world. What to do? what to do?

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2020 • 11:20:41am

America’s biggest problem actually is not Donald Trump. It’s Fox News.

Rupert Murdoch’s giant 24/7 right wing propaganda machine has done more than anything else to wreck US politics.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2020

Weaselone Jan 6, 2020 • 11:21:30am

What exactly did Gervais do that goes beyond his general I’m an equal opportunity a-hole schtick?

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 11:22:23am

re: #34 jaunte

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Somebody forgot about how silent Trump and the Republicans got after 4 servicemen were slaughtered in Niger…Note how Republicans just conveniently forgot to hold hearings about that????

VegasGolfer Jan 6, 2020 • 11:23:18am

Fuck Ricky Gervais. He doesn’t use anything made in Chinese sweat shops right? And his butt licking followers didn’t twitter in any devices made in China right?
And him playing an asshole in his roles is him just being himself

Jay C Jan 6, 2020 • 11:26:52am

re: #39 Joe Bacon 🌹

Somebody forgot about how silent Trump and the Republicans got after 4 servicemen were slaughtered in Niger…Note how Republicans just conveniently forgot to hold hearings about that????

So maybe the House Armed Services Committee ought to be looking into the Kenyan attack? And the Niger one? With maybe a few pointed reminders about why these incidents haven’t been publicized by the Admin/DoD/GOP??

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2020 • 11:28:56am

An under-appreciated comic book genre. https://t.co/2yHZGYpfUd

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2020

Mattand Jan 6, 2020 • 11:30:55am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Have we really reached such a fucked up point in American politics where our hopes are riding on John Bolton and his horrible mustache to tip the scales against Trump?

Yep.

The same John Bolton who probably has had a days-long orgasm over the fact that we are on the brink of war with Iran.

It’s also entirely possible that Bolton would sandbag any potential impeachment testimony if the end result meant Trump staying in power and murdering millions of civilians by nuking Iran.

I think his desire for the wholesale annihilation of Iran outweighs any lingering animosity he harbors towards Trump.

HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 11:32:14am

re: #41 Jay C

So maybe the House Armed Services Committee ought to be looking into the Kenyan attack? And the Niger one? With maybe a few pointed reminders about why these incidents haven’t been publicized by the Admin/DoD/GOP??

I remember Rep Wilson and a war widow being mocked because Trump was completely unsympathetic since she was a family friend of the deceased. Then Trump did something else.

aatharuv Jan 6, 2020 • 11:33:55am

I highly suspect that he’s “Prepared to Testify” because he knows McConnell isn’t going to call him as a witness, especially, since he’s apparently saying through backchannels that he’s going to have some damning testimony against Trump.

Shropshire Slasher Jan 6, 2020 • 11:35:48am

President Donald Trump is on the Rush Limbaugh show now.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 11:38:30am

Somehow, I knew Andrew Sullivan’s final form would be arguing about penis phrenology https://t.co/qPZIOkMEZV

— ric flair drippini (@jesseltaylor) January 6, 2020

HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 11:40:52am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s a creepy dick.

Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 11:41:51am

Just asked Sen Rubio if he‘d vote to subpoena Bolton. “I wouldn’t because..I believe you should be constrained by the information that those articles are based on..if the House wants to start a new impeachment inquiry or..add additional elements to it that’s their choice to make”

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 6, 2020

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2020 • 11:44:35am

Yes, very unlikely he’ll be the guy who takes down Trump. On the other hand, there is some serious bad blood between the two of them and Bolton probably doesn’t like the damage Trump has done to US alliances. Be interesting to see if it outweighs his war fetish.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2020

aatharuv Jan 6, 2020 • 11:45:05am

re: #41 Jay C

The Niger attack on American soldiers was a direct consequence of Trump’s Muslim travel ban — it occurred after Chad (which was cooperating with us on anti-Boko Haram operations in West Africa), pulled its troops out and stopped cooperating with us after being placed on the list.

newsweek.com

theatlantic.com

steve_davis Jan 6, 2020 • 11:45:11am

re: #3 lawhawk

TARP? That’s a successful bailout.

A trap? That’s what happens when you have a know-nothing running the US foreign policy into the ground to the benefit of foreign powers.re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Have we really reached such a fucked up point in American politics where our hopes are riding on John Bolton and his horrible mustache to tip the scales against Trump?

I don’t have any confidence in Bolton. I have full confidence, though, in his mustache to tell the truth.

Shropshire Slasher Jan 6, 2020 • 11:49:25am

re: #52 steve_davis

Do you have to subpoena John Bolton’s mustache separately?!

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 11:51:11am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So The Tory Twit agrees with Milo…

Semper Fi Jan 6, 2020 • 12:05:15pm

re: #53 Shropshire Slasher

Do you have to subpoena John Bolton’s mustache separately?!

Bolton must be starving…mustache sweeps everything off the fork before he can get it in his mouth.

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 12:06:17pm

And look who else now wants to be a spoiler for 2020!

Former 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Lincoln Chafee is taking another shot at the White House, this time as a member of the Libertarian Party.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 12:08:26pm

This is Vega. She knows the best swims start with a good dive. Hoping you got her time because that was speedy as h*ck. 14/10 pic.twitter.com/3tBeo3qbgU

— WeRateDogs® (@dog_rates) January 6, 2020

Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2020 • 12:10:32pm

Bolton is demanding a subpeona so he can testify AND keep his GOP cred. With a subpoena he can be like: “Hey look guys, I’m sorry. They made me do this.”

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 12:12:02pm

Take a look at these new charges. The Los Angeles DA is saying that Weinstein literally raped and assaulted women day after day. https://t.co/4N3KZMIoua

— jodikantor (@jodikantor) January 6, 2020

I Would Prefer Not To Jan 6, 2020 • 12:17:38pm

from the AP

U.S.-led coalition tells Iraqi military it will withdraw from Iraq: letter.

Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 12:18:52pm

Letter from US military’s Task Force Iraq said troops would “be repositioning forces over the course of the coming days and weeks to prepare for onward movement.”https://t.co/VqZeAq0lwM

— Al Jazeera News (@AJENews) January 6, 2020

Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2020 • 12:19:29pm

Ricky Gervais fans are still coming at me on Twitter. They seem to think Gervais didn’t know his rant was going to appeal to the right.

He knew.

lawhawk Jan 6, 2020 • 12:20:41pm

re: #60 I Would Prefer Not To

Trump’s going to claim success in his claim that he got the US out of Iraq.

Never mind that he was given the boot, or that he ended anti-ISIS operations in a snit, or that he abandoned our Kurdish allies to be slaughtered by ISIS and Turkish forces, or that abandoning Iraq means Iran has greater sway, or that Russia fills the vacuum left by the US leaving (just as Russia entered and took over bases we abandoned in Syria).

This is about Trump branding failure as success and knowing his base wont give a shit either way.

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 12:20:51pm

re: #61 Dread Pirate

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So where are those troops going to move?

Dr Lizardo Jan 6, 2020 • 12:21:39pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon 🌹

So where are those troops going to move?

Yeah….that’s what I’m wondering.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 12:27:02pm

re: #60 I Would Prefer Not To

from the AP

U.S.-led coalition tells Iraqi military it will withdraw from Iraq: letter.

re: #61 Dread Pirate

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U.S.-led coalition tells Iraqi military it will withdraw from Iraq out of respect for the nation’s sovereignty pic.twitter.com/SaQJgbaGgD

— Reuters (@Reuters) January 6, 2020

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 12:29:14pm

The number two Republican in the Senate, Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) sent a strong signal on Monday that McConnell doesn’t have the votes to prevent witnesses.

https://t.co/SgZYlfkNJk via @politicususa

— Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) January 6, 2020

Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 12:29:19pm

re: #63 lawhawk

Trump’s going to claim success in his claim that he got the US out of Iraq.

Never mind that he was given the boot, or that he ended anti-ISIS operations in a snit, or that he abandoned our Kurdish allies to be slaughtered by ISIS and Turkish forces, or that abandoning Iraq means Iran has greater sway, or that Russia fills the vacuum left by the US leaving (just as Russia entered and took over bases we abandoned in Syria).

This is about Trump branding failure as success and knowing his base wont give a shit either way.

You’re forgetting Trump threating to stay if Iraq didn’t pay up.

Dr Lizardo Jan 6, 2020 • 12:29:30pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

Re-deploy to Saudi Arabia, perhaps? Of course, that could be problematic as well.

lawhawk Jan 6, 2020 • 12:30:56pm

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

Re-deploy to Saudi Arabia, perhaps? Of course, that could be problematic as well.

Al Qaeda’s list of grievances started with US forces being stationed in KSA.

Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 12:32:02pm

McConnell is whining on TV. Fuck him.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 12:32:10pm

guy GOP called as legal expert on impeachment now on Twitter making stuff up abt impeachment https://t.co/N825X0XURe

— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) January 6, 2020

Dr Lizardo Jan 6, 2020 • 12:32:31pm

re: #70 lawhawk

Al Qaeda’s list of grievances started with US forces being stationed in KSA.

Precisely.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 12:34:22pm

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

Re-deploy to Saudi Arabia, perhaps? Of course, that could be problematic as well.

the troops from Ft Bragg are being sent to Kuwait, so that’s a possibility

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 12:35:23pm

Golden Retriever Comes Home With A Baby Koala Whose Life She Just Saved https://t.co/vQDVO4OzEG

— Mary Force (@mary4ce) January 6, 2020

Dr Lizardo Jan 6, 2020 • 12:35:49pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

the troops from Ft Bragg are being sent to Kuwait, so that’s a possibility

Yeah, maybe Kuwait.

What a clusterfuck this has all ended up being. And I’d be willing to bet a dollar or two that right now, Putin is smiling from ear to ear.

makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 12:36:21pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon 🌹

So where are those troops going to move?

KSA, probably. After all, they pay cash.

makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 12:39:04pm

Gosar is a punk.

U.S. congressman sharing a fake photo. This photoshopped from Obama meeting India’s prime minister. https://t.co/7UMjyPwFDQ pic.twitter.com/ckRZx3ktok

— andrew kaczynski🤔 (@KFILE) January 6, 2020

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 12:39:13pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Amazing to see what a prostitute Turley is.

Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 12:39:24pm

U.S. needs to be more flexible in nuclear talks with N. Korea: Moon adviser https://t.co/C7tY3QDSBr

— Yonhap News Agency (@YonhapNews) January 6, 2020

Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2020 • 12:43:45pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon 🌹

So where are those troops going to move?

I hear there are some Trump properties that have a few empty rooms…

Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 12:44:17pm

U.S. oil major Chevron pulls staff from northern Iraq https://t.co/Mv3jFhfi96 pic.twitter.com/DtlRexWMmP

— Reuters (@Reuters) January 6, 2020

Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2020 • 12:44:34pm

re: #78 makeitstop

Gosar is a punk.

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Wasn’t he the dude whose own family aired a PSA against him?

makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 12:45:37pm

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

Wasn’t he the dude whose own family aired a PSA against him?

That’s the guy. The dentist who claims to be a body language expert.

Punk.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 12:45:38pm

Virginia governor backs bill to end Lee-Jackson Day and make Election Day a holiday https://t.co/JkBAX7b0xW

— Matt Murphy (@MattMurph24) January 6, 2020

sagehen Jan 6, 2020 • 12:46:00pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

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16/10.

They’re all good dogs.

Blind Frog Belly White Jan 6, 2020 • 12:46:56pm

re: #55 Semper Fi

Bolton must be starving…mustache sweeps everything off the fork before he can get it in his mouth.

/

You joke, but I had a friend who would let is beard and mustache grow for 6 months between trimming. When he ate soup, the mustache would take some of each spoonful and dribble it down his beard. It was really disturbing to watch. On the plus side, he showered daily, so at least he cleaned the food out on a regular basis.

Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 12:47:38pm

O_o

McConnell attacks Democrats for going after Trump in the aftermath of Soleimani killing. Says there should a moment for national unity, accusing Dems of deepening partisan divide

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 6, 2020

Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 12:48:20pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

Nope, Mitch. Not going to work that way.

I Would Prefer Not To Jan 6, 2020 • 12:49:01pm

re: #89 Belafon

Nope, Mitch. Not going to work that way.

In others words, I’m being investigated, lets start a war.

Jay C Jan 6, 2020 • 12:50:02pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Sure, Mitch: “National unity”??
Good idea: canvass your caucus to vote to remove the Orange Anus: and get Sen. Schumer to go along to make it 100-0.
How’s THAT for “unity”??

makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 12:50:11pm

re: #89 Belafon

Nope, Mitch. Not going to work that way.

If he wanted unity, maybe he should have told Trump to brief everyone on his bonehead move.

Eventual Carrion Jan 6, 2020 • 12:50:12pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ll believe what the mustachioed motherfather says when he testifies before the House Intelligence Committee.

That’s where I am. All the fuckers that ignored the first subpoenas should be subpoenaed again. The court has spoken.

goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2020 • 12:52:09pm

re: #93 Eventual Carrion

That’s where I am. All the fuckers that ignored the first subpoenas should be subpoenaed again.

Only this time the subpoenas should also come with a free swarm of BEES!

gocart mozart Jan 6, 2020 • 12:53:09pm

Fixed it.

(Waaaaaaaaaaaaait for it) pic.twitter.com/s5npGFih2v

— Paul Lidicul (@PaulLidicul) January 6, 2020

Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches) Jan 6, 2020 • 12:53:30pm

Fuck, this is the 1st week back and we gotta deal with this Bullshit?

*Opens twitter*
“Andrew Sullivan is trying to apply race science to penises again.”
*Closes twitter*

— Moira Donegan (@MoiraDonegan) January 6, 2020

Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 12:56:39pm

re: #96 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Fuck, this is the 1st week back and we gotta deal with this Bullshit?

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Andy never heard of Ron Jeremy…

Dr Lizardo Jan 6, 2020 • 12:57:18pm

re: #97 Joe Bacon 🌹

Andy never heard of Ron Jeremy…

Or John Holmes.

Dr Lizardo Jan 6, 2020 • 1:00:50pm

Well, time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2020 • 1:02:44pm

Random thought:

What exactly is the point of organic 200 proof culinary solvent (iow pure food grade ethanol) ?

I mean compared to regular, how the fuck is any meaningful level of pesticide in the corn surviving that level of distillation?

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Jay C Jan 6, 2020 • 1:04:50pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

Random thought:

What exactly is the point of organic 200 proof culinary solvent (iow pure food grade ethanol) ?

I mean compared to regular, how the fuck is any meaningful level of pesticide in the corn surviving that level of distillation?

It isn’t: but then, that’s what you’re paying your whatever-percent “organic” premium for: to be sure.

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Scottish Dragon Jan 6, 2020 • 1:07:12pm

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

If Andrew Sullivan wants to keep writing his race science shit, it’s worth noting (as an intern of his in 2013): At a private meeting, his entire staff challenged him on it until he asked, exasperated, “well, why didn’t Africa conquer Europe, then?”

— Brendan James (@deep_beige) March 30, 2018

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garzooma Jan 6, 2020 • 1:08:15pm

re: #38 Weaselone

What exactly did Gervais do that goes beyond his general I’m an equal opportunity a-hole schtick?

I didn’t see what Gervais did, but here’s an article that discusses it from The Atlantic:

In a generally sour speech—Gervais had earlier emphasized how little he cared about the Golden Globes, and had suggested that Dame Judi Dench licks her nether regions—this was the acid-bomb climax. There was no conciliation, no wink in Gervais’s voice. It’s tempting to call this his moment of moral clarity, and it was likely aimed to be played on loop by Fox News and other outlets that make a habit of questioning Hollywood’s pieties. The passage is so close to saying the necessary thing about those pieties: that they’re often directed at broad causes rather than specific situations stars might actually have the power to change. But Gervais instead devolved into something more incoherent and regressive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 1:12:43pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

Only this time the subpoenas should also come with a free swarm of ~~BEES!~~

WASPS! because, unlike bees, wasps can sting over and over and over again/

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2020 • 1:13:03pm

Yep, it’s a shitshow alright

Couple of things here to note:

1) With unrest and de-ISIS ops stalled, there’s an easy case to be made the retrenching on a few bases makes sense, whether the military ultimately withdraws or not. https://t.co/8QIpZukcJS

— Dan Lamothe (@DanLamothe) January 6, 2020

3) As the memo highlights, the repositioning certainly means the U.S. will need to move about in a very uncertain security situation. Can’t forget that, either.

— Dan Lamothe (@DanLamothe) January 6, 2020

5) SECDEF Esper just addressed reporters at Pentagon (speaking for first time since Soleimani’s death). Per @PaulSonne in the room, he said, “That letter is inconsistent with where we are right now.” But other officials confirm it was authentic, sent and received by the Iraqis.

— Dan Lamothe (@DanLamothe) January 6, 2020

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2020 • 1:13:31pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Dude who admitted he buries almost any legislation Dems send to his desk complains about a lack of Unity.

Sure, Jan.

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HRH Stanley Sea Jan 6, 2020 • 1:15:29pm

Esper adds that his staff is “trying to figure out” what memo is “there are no plans to leave” - may reflect repositioning, but not a withdrawal

— Tara Copp (@TaraCopp) January 6, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 1:16:09pm

re: #103 garzooma

I didn’t see what Gervais did, but here’s an article that discusses it from The Atlantic:

Ricky Gervais Tells Hollywood to “F— Off” in Expletive-Filled Golden Globes Monologue
video at the link

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2020 • 1:19:08pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

Sigh. This is what happens when a bunch of your top officials leave and the President doesn’t consult his advisers before making decisions.

NO ONE knows what the fuck is going on. Jesus H. Christ.

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2020 • 1:19:54pm

Joe Lieberman appears on Fox News and calls Trump’s strike bold and unconventional pic.twitter.com/vNoXz3QHhD

— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) January 6, 2020

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sagehen Jan 6, 2020 • 1:20:02pm

re: #95 gocart mozart

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the woman in the leopard-print, standing behind the woman in pink, looks like Michael Jackson.

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Ace Rothstein Jan 6, 2020 • 1:21:31pm

re: #64 Joe Bacon 🌹

So where are those troops going to move?

Trump Hotel, Istanbul.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2020 • 1:21:45pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

Another old and out of touch guy named Joe.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jan 6, 2020 • 1:23:43pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

Okay, can I have a show of hands of ANYONE who’s surprised by “Even-The-Liberal-Joe” Lieberman praising this shit?

Anyone?

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sagehen Jan 6, 2020 • 1:26:01pm

re: #106 Eclectic Cyborg

Dude who admitted he buries almost any legislation Dems send to his desk complains about a lack of Unity.

Sure, Jan.

Merrick Garland.

Can’t repeat this often enough. Merrick Garland.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 1:26:19pm

“Or: what the hell is going on?”

Evergreen. https://t.co/SpoODuwd3e

— Laffy (@GottaLaff) January 6, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 1:28:55pm

All these “very concerned” Republicans who say they”would like to hear from” witnesses? They’re full of crap. https://t.co/GDvLHPJMOd

— Laffy (@GottaLaff) January 6, 2020

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makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 1:30:35pm

Holy shit, these people are fucking stupid.

This is the single most incompetent administration in modern history, and I am starting to think we’re all going to die soon. https://t.co/4GJRr1eU7a

— Jon Zal (@OfficialJonZal) January 6, 2020

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Eventual Carrion Jan 6, 2020 • 1:34:18pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

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So is taking a shit in the middle of the floor of the Vatican front foyer, doesn’t mean it is right.

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lawhawk Jan 6, 2020 • 1:39:13pm

re: #105 goddamnedfrank

The incompetence is stunning at all levels, because Trumpworld places emphasis on fealty to Trump, not competence, and no one cares about competence or knowledge.

So we get mistakes like this. Huge mistakes. Trump owns this mess. All of it.

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 6, 2020

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Ace Rothstein Jan 6, 2020 • 1:41:06pm

re: #120 lawhawk

$50 says it wasn’t a mistake.

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Citizen K Jan 6, 2020 • 1:41:23pm

All three of these statements are true, @CillizzaCNN.

What kind of bush league “reporting” is this? https://t.co/sXf78sAZ6y

— Travis Akers (@travisakers) January 6, 2020

Reminder: This is exactly the reason why CNN hired Cillizza in the first place. They want such sterling analysis like this, because somehow, it’s supposed to make them look nice and unbiased and hopefully draw conservative viewers in.

The fact that it hasn’t doesn’t matter, it’ll just take a little more kowtowing and Dem-punching and for sure, conservative viewers will take them seriously!!

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lawhawk Jan 6, 2020 • 1:41:42pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, it’s accurate alright - but everyone is so fucking incompetent that they’re falling over themselves because no one knows what they’re doing and messaging and lying and dissembling is what they do.

It’s incompetence on display.

Could it mean that someone wanted to show exactly what Trump was thinking with the draft and released it before it was made official? Yeah - embarrass Trump and get him away from thinking of doing this?

Like that worked so well when offered the opportunity to whack Suleimani?

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sagehen Jan 6, 2020 • 1:44:08pm

Does anybody know when Colbert is back?

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Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 1:44:31pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

“He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named did great things — terrible, yes, but great.” - Garrick Ollivander

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 1:45:49pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

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LIEberman rises from the grave…

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Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 1:46:40pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

They had to find a (male) Democrat somewhere that would agree.

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Targetpractice Jan 6, 2020 • 1:48:39pm

re: #118 makeitstop

Holy shit, these people are fucking stupid.

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Gen. Milley went on to state that he really likes his job and would prefer not to get a tweet from the WH announcing his “retirement.”

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Citizen K Jan 6, 2020 • 1:49:28pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

re: #126 Joe Bacon 🌹

LIEberman rises from the grave…

Lieberman is exactly the kind of person I point to when I hear the laughable shit about how Dems keep going rightward and have gone further right than ever before. It’s like…motherfuckers, you haven’t even seen Blue Dogs in the party since the dumbasses wiped themselves out in 2010 by abandoning Obama en masse. Lieberman’s retirement alone centers the party further left than any post-9/11 point.

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 1:49:52pm

Trump’s Asses are in full hole-ing mode!

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 1:53:56pm

re: #129 Citizen K

Lieberman is exactly the kind of person I point to when I hear the laughable shit about how Dems keep going rightward and have gone further right than ever before. It’s like…motherfuckers, you haven’t even seen Blue Dogs in the party since the dumbasses wiped themselves out in 2010 by abandoning Obama en masse. Lieberman’s retirement alone centers the party further left than any post-9/11 point.

Seriously if the most right wing idea you have for a Dem is Biden, you ain’t seen nothing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 1:55:09pm

A dangerous and provocative decision to target a top Iranian official for killing.

Threats to bomb cultural sites and use disproportionate force.

These are the acts of a President with no functional national security process.

Congress must engage with hearings and constraints. https://t.co/eKZrgvfoxx

— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) January 6, 2020

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Citizen K Jan 6, 2020 • 1:56:04pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Seriously if the most right wing idea you have for a Dem is Biden, you ain’t seen nothing.

I mean…I still have huge concerns about Biden as it is. Nowhere near enough that I wouldn’t vote for him in the general, because hell no I’m letting that happen. But yeah, like…anything analyzing how far left or right the Dem party has gone without mentioning the names Joe Lieberman, Zell Miller, or the words “Blue Dogs” is fucking null and void to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 1:57:23pm

NEW: Trump admin denies visa to Iran foreign minister @JZarif https://t.co/cnoOvdf5Su

— Negar Mortazavi (@NegarMortazavi) January 6, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 1:58:33pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is there any reason the UN would stay in NYC if this is what the US plans on doing? https://t.co/vVZCVBPncW

— Markos Moulitsas (@markos) January 6, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 1:59:36pm

.@realDonaldTrump: “…targeted 52 Iranian sites…important to Iran & the Iranian culture”

.@KellyannePolls: “He didn’t say he’s targeting cultural sites”@SecPompeo: “President Trump didn’t say he’d go after a cultural site”

Me: what a bunch of corrupt lying gaslighting MF’s https://t.co/Nb4r257cyx

— Andy Ostroy (@AndyOstroy) January 6, 2020

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 2:01:11pm

re: #133 Citizen K

I mean…I still have huge concerns about Biden as it is. Nowhere near enough that I wouldn’t vote for him in the general, because hell no I’m letting that happen. But yeah, like…anything analyzing how far left or right the Dem party has gone without mentioning the names Joe Lieberman, Zell Miller, or the words “Blue Dogs” is fucking null and void to me.

Exactly

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aatharuv Jan 6, 2020 • 2:01:15pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s blatantly illegal under the treaties passed to grant the United Nations headquarters its special status — The US must provide visas to people working at UN head quarters or UN member states official staying at the UN, even if they’re limited to free transit between the UN, and limited to travelling into the US through JFK.

I half wonder if Donnie wants to somehow acquire the land where the UN HQ lives…

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 2:01:45pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2020 • 2:02:15pm

re: #138 aatharuv

That’s blatantly illegal under the treaties passed to grant the United Nations headquarters its special status — The US must provide visas to people working at UN head quarters or UN member states official staying at the UN, even if they’re limited to free transit between the UN, and limited to travelling into the US through JFK.

It’s cute how you think this Admin gives a shit about laws.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 2:02:26pm

A Cape Coral family doesn’t want to take their Christmas decorations down because they have a new frequent visitor! Here’s their new “friend” trying to hide from the cold this morning 😂 pic.twitter.com/b4aaBcc8jf

— Jason Dunning (@JasonDunning) January 6, 2020

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Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 2:02:31pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just what the Wingers want.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 2:02:32pm

re: #138 aatharuv

That’s blatantly illegal under the treaties passed to grant the United Nations headquarters its special status — The US must provide visas to people working at UN head quarters or UN member states official staying at the UN, even if they’re limited to free transit between the UN, and limited to travelling into the US through JFK.

You say illegal. I’m having trouble finding what he’s done that is legal.

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Targetpractice Jan 6, 2020 • 2:02:51pm

Leaving aside for the moment the obvious reality that the “draft letter” didn’t end up in the hands of the media without somebody involved in its creation giving it to them, the obvious question is “Why write such a letter if you have no intent on following through with it?” Think it’s pretty obvious that somebody(s) within the Pentagon are sending a clear message that their CinC is out of his gourd and they’re not prepared to fight WWIII.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 2:03:14pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hey it looks comfy enough.

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Targetpractice Jan 6, 2020 • 2:04:05pm

re: #140 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s cute how you think this Admin gives a shit about laws.

/

“He’s the President! He can do whatever he likes under Article II because that was the intent of the Founders! NOBODY CAN QUESTION HIS ACTIONS!”

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aatharuv Jan 6, 2020 • 2:04:56pm

re: #140 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t have any illusions to the slightest, but Zarif has entered the US at times post Trump subject to the traditional restrictions on Iranian diplomats, consular, and other government officials in the US since the Islamic revolution (no more than a certain miles from the UN HQ, or the Iranian interests section in DC)..

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag) Jan 6, 2020 • 2:05:07pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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really mitch?
exactly why should there be a moment for national unity?

McConnell attacks Democrats for going after Trump in the aftermath of Soleimani killing. Says there should a moment for national unity, accusing Dems of deepening partisan divide

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 6, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 2:07:07pm

I was told to ask the WH …@EamonJavers https://t.co/WiQGh7ZUru

— Brian J. Karem (@BrianKarem) January 6, 2020

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Targetpractice Jan 6, 2020 • 2:08:30pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is juvenile level shit. “Go ask your Father.” “Go ask your Mother.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 2:09:41pm

JFC

IJ Tyrakoski in San Antonio just issued a false hearing notice to DHS for my asylum seeking client so that DHS could facilitate her return to Mexico. When I objected she stated she was issuing the notice bc DHS was within its rights to make my client wait in Mexico.

— CBrownImmLaw (@cbrownimmlaw) January 6, 2020

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 2:09:48pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The buck stops with anywhere but here.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 2:10:37pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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It can’t be forgotten that this is still happening.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 2:11:02pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

It can’t be forgotten that this is still happening.

they aren’t even pretending anymore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 2:12:18pm

Dear Iraq,

We’re withdrawing.

Best,,
US Military

Dear Iraq.

We’re not withdrawing.

Best.
US Military

Dear Iraq,

Sorry for all the letters, but wanted to make sure you got letter re: withdrawal.

Best.
US Military

Dear Iraq,

To clarify, non-withdrawal.

Best.
US Military

— Jeremy Newberger (@jeremynewberger) January 6, 2020

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Targetpractice Jan 6, 2020 • 2:13:07pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dear Iraq,

Disregard letter, sent in error.

Best.
US Military

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 2:14:19pm

that escalated quickly
(gustheenglishbulldog IG) pic.twitter.com/L1Y1CUm4hA

— Humor And Animals (@humorandanimals) January 6, 2020

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2020 • 2:15:09pm

General Seely is obviously correct. If Iraq wants us out we will have to leave, and that isn’t going to change just because Trump fucked everything up and is now throwing a tantrum over the predictable fallout

— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 6, 2020

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PhillyPretzel Jan 6, 2020 • 2:16:11pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #156 Targetpractice

::: crossed eyes :::
No one has any idea of what it going on not even DT.

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Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2020 • 2:17:32pm

He’s losing it completely now. Just imagine how he must be raging and screaming at the people around him. https://t.co/9MHKMaQGkS

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2020

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2020 • 2:17:40pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

The buck stops with anywhere but here.

The buck stops uhhhh….somewhere….maybe….to be honest I don’t really know.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 2:19:19pm

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

The buck stops uhhhh….somewhere….maybe….to be honest I don’t really know.

I miss sane leadership. This has been a flustering three years.

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2020 • 2:19:28pm

I know a lot of RWNJs are confused about the withdrawal issue because they assumed that Obama didn’t have to respect the agreement on draw-down that the Bush administration signed. He respected Iraq’s wishes and in the aftermath ISIS gained force, so the right blamed Obama for the creation of ISIS (and it was dumb to call them “JV” to be fair). Anyway, they are operating under the same set of assumptions.

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2020 • 2:19:52pm

re: #162 HappyWarrior

I miss sane leadership. This has been a flustering three years.

And we might have five more left but God, I hope not.

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Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 2:20:04pm

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

The buck stops uhhhh….somewhere….maybe….to be honest I don’t really know.

It goes wherever McConnell puts the House bills.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag) Jan 6, 2020 • 2:20:18pm

re: #158 goddamnedfrank

when we work on unreleased drafts we print “DRAFT” all over the effing thing
- centered
- as a large watermark
- semi-obscuring the text
- on every goddamned page

so there’s no confusion
ever

fucking amateurs

Remember when the President said Alabama was going to be hit by a hurricane & the professionals at NOAA corrected him and it became a huge goddamned thing because Trump can’t ever allow himself to be wrong?

So that’s what’s going on with this draft / not-a-draft Pentagon letter

— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 6, 2020

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2020 • 2:23:18pm

By my calculations things shouldn’t be quite this fucked up yet, but they are. There’s some non-linear add-on fuckery afoot

— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 6, 2020

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2020 • 2:24:54pm

re: #166 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

when we work on unreleased drafts we print “DRAFT” all over the effing thing
- centered
- as a large watermark
- semi-obscuring the text
- on every goddamned page

so there’s no confusion
ever

fucking amateurs

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Yeah I don’t believe for one second that it was a draft. That shit got sent.

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Targetpractice Jan 6, 2020 • 2:26:04pm

re: #163 Barefoot Grin

I know a lot of RWNJs are confused about the withdrawal issue because they assumed that Obama didn’t have to respect the agreement on draw-down that the Bush administration signed. He respected Iraq’s wishes and in the aftermath ISIS gained force, so the right blamed Obama for the creation of ISIS (and it was dumb to call them “JV” to be fair). Anyway, they are operating under the same set of assumptions.

The excuse I was always given for why Obama had “retreated” was that Iraq was obviously wanting us to “renegotiate” Dubya’s agreement and the WH hadn’t taken that seriously. But even if Iraq had really wanted us out, we could just ignore the agreement and their stated intent in the name of “protecting” them.

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HappyWarrior Jan 6, 2020 • 2:26:36pm

Amateur hour from top to bottom.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jan 6, 2020 • 2:29:36pm

Civil War medical museum prepares to amputate Confederate flag from logo

The National Museum of Civil War Medicine, a quirky and fascinating repository of battlefield medical artifacts including skull saws and rusty scalpels, is amputating the Confederate flag from its logo.

172

BigPapa Jan 6, 2020 • 2:31:41pm

Amazing that’s it’s been a year since Trump was impeached. As if we all forgot.

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Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 2:32:13pm

re: #171 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Civil War medical museum prepares to amputate Confederate flag from logo

Just make it white, the only Confederate flag we recognize.

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2020 • 2:35:53pm

re: #171 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Civil War medical museum prepares to amputate Confederate flag from logo

Neither here nor there, but I was once called to school to pick up my then 5th grader because he passed out when a teacher showed a photo of a Civil War battlefield operating tent with the attendant carnage. I wasn’t angry but it does seem like the kind of thing you might not show 5th graders without some preparation.

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2020 • 2:38:24pm

Here we go again. Media holding women candidates to higher standards.

Warren and Buttigieg have added to their initial statements as the’ve taken press questions and done TV interviews. For whatever reason, Buttigieg isn’t getting the same “he used different words, can you trust him?” coverage. https://t.co/zNCWOir5b8

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 6, 2020

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bratwurst Jan 6, 2020 • 2:39:11pm

It’s almost a refreshing change from all the dishonest mistakes being made. https://t.co/rhykJqXAV9

— J. Elvis Weinstein (@JElvisWeinstein) January 6, 2020

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag) Jan 6, 2020 • 2:39:19pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

Amateur hour from top to bottom.

worse imo
clueless incompetents who think they’re brilliant

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 2:39:30pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Don’t mess with the cat. pic.twitter.com/tzrd7FYZTm

— Darwin Award 🔞 (@AwardsDarwin) January 4, 2020

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Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 2:40:48pm

Reprint from moronmajority.com
Following the killing of Iranian military General Qassem Soleimani, Iran has issued an $80 million bounty on Donald Trump’s head.

According to White House sources, Trump is infuriated with this latest move out of Iran. No, not that a bounty was placed on him, but because of the low dollar amount.

“I’m the most powerful man on the face of the Earth and this is all I’m worth?” Trump supposedly said. “They should be talking billions, not millions.”

When Iran’s Supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, heard of Trump’s remarks, he made the “leader of the free world” a new offer. “Show us your tax returns and we will reconsider the bounty offer.”

Unfortunately for Trump, he will not be able to comply with the Ayatollah’s demand as his returns are currently under audit.

Warning - this could be “fake” nooze

dailykos.com

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Targetpractice Jan 6, 2020 • 2:41:03pm

re: #176 bratwurst

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“It was an honest mistake that this letter we never intended to send just happened to get sent out! Totally honest mistake! …please don’t fire us.”

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plansbandc Jan 6, 2020 • 2:42:00pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t think kitty wants to be President.

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John Hughes Jan 6, 2020 • 2:42:19pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

What exactly is the point of organic 200 proof culinary solvent

Makes no difference to how much pesticide you are exposed to, but does reduce the amount of pesticide in the environment.

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2020 • 2:45:41pm

It may have been an “honest mistake” but that mistake was actually sent to the Iraqis. That’s not how drafts work, except in college.

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makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 2:46:41pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Two of the cats were in the office just now and were very interested in Sheba’s message. :)

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Targetpractice Jan 6, 2020 • 2:47:26pm

Looking at the TPM article, the “honest mistake” according to Milley appears to be that the letter was “poorly worded.” That it’s his insistence that Seely meant to convey that US troops will not be leaving, but will instead be moved to new positions within Iraq.

Or, for those taking notes, Milley is making a valiant effort to keep Seely from being drawn and quartered by a frothing mad CinC.

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 2:48:27pm

Never forget!

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makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 2:49:53pm

The deed is done. Our #RemoveTrump floating billboard is securely anchored at Mar-A-Lago! How ‘bout it! Will you chip in for more billboards? Join the fight!! So proud!!!https://t.co/22rzjBZUJE pic.twitter.com/MGOmMLD1VT

— MadDogPAC (@maddogpac) January 6, 2020

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2020 • 2:49:53pm

re: #186 Joe Bacon 🌹

Never forget!

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‘Why can’t we have Norwegians move here instead of from shithole countries?’

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2020 • 2:55:49pm

Jan 2: Cillizza is a vacuous waste of human skin

Jan 3: Cillizza is still a vacuous waste of human skin

Jan. 5: Yup. Cillizza remains a waste of human skin

— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) January 6, 2020

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Eclectic Cyborg Jan 6, 2020 • 2:56:05pm

re: #188 Barefoot Grin

‘Why can’t we have Norwegians move here instead of from shithole countries?’

Plot twist: Trump is doing everything he can to turn us into a shithole country.

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Charles Johnson Jan 6, 2020 • 3:01:04pm

Would Trump actually order the military to commit war crimes, and force the joint chiefs and top officials into a showdown over following his orders? Or is he too much of a coward to take it that far?

I’m leaning toward the latter.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 6, 2020

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Targetpractice Jan 6, 2020 • 3:01:13pm

Think it’s pretty clear from Seely’s letter that the DoD does not want another Fall of Saigon, does not want to have to un-ass without a plan or prep in what would be a truly embarrassing display. And that they recognize that Trump’s position that they will not leave under any circumstances is not sustainable, that if they don’t go willingly then they’ll be kicked out at gunpoint.

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2020 • 3:01:27pm

The Pentagon is really covering itself in glory this week. First they they apparently ran a psyop on Trump by presenting him with the absurd option to kill Soleimani, thinking it would spur him to commit to a more moderate action. That blew up.

Today, the letter to Iraq fuckup.

— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 6, 2020

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 3:04:13pm

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

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Just remember the assholes who are really calling the shots in this administration!

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Targetpractice Jan 6, 2020 • 3:04:33pm

re: #191 Charles Johnson

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I’ll take Option C: Find somebody to take the blame for being forced to order a “retreat,” so that his MAGAt base can keep believing that he’s a messiah who cannot fail but only be failed.

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 3:05:18pm

re: #189 gocart mozart

So you’re posting another tweet approved by a Frank Luntz focus group…

— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) January 6, 2020

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2020 • 3:05:52pm

This should be fun

So Trump tweeted the threat to Target cultural sites, and then Pompeo tried to walk it back, and then Trump said no no no, I 100% meant that, and now Esper is straight-up disavowing. https://t.co/fAzbZnFYEy

— Josh Wingrove (@josh_wingrove) January 6, 2020

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Targetpractice Jan 6, 2020 • 3:07:00pm

re: #197 goddamnedfrank

This should be fun

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Esper has gotta be hating life right now.

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I Would Prefer Not To Jan 6, 2020 • 3:07:24pm

re: #198 Targetpractice

Esper has gotta be hating life right now.

Good.

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2020 • 3:09:27pm

re: #199 I Would Prefer Not To

Good.

Yep, fuck him. He should have resigned when Trump started pardoning war criminals.

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 3:09:41pm

re: #198 Targetpractice

Esper has gotta be hating life right now.

I don’t believe a word any one of these Acting Assholes say. All they do is lie for Trump!

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2020 • 3:09:54pm

Warren at breakfast: This bacon came from a pig

Warren at lunch: The ham on my sandwich came from a pig

Warren at dinner: Did you know these pork chops came from a pig?

Cillizza: WHOA! CNN has learned….. https://t.co/qQRe6G2H9L

— TBogg (@tbogg) January 6, 2020

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retired cynic Jan 6, 2020 • 3:10:04pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Ooooooo, my cat from hell isn’t THAT much of a cat from hell! LOLOL!

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2020 • 3:10:09pm

So I guess IraniansdetestSuleimani is trending (not using hashtag). It’s being used to say the Trump is a hero who won’t be forgotten and the Dems support Suleimani. And of course, it’s being glommed onto by Cernovich and the usual suspects. This stupid world.

Edited: but, hell, if this is a real thing then great. All I’m saying is that the Democrats who actually knew of Suleimani detested him too. They were thinking of consequences.

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Florida Panhandler Jan 6, 2020 • 3:17:06pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

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In case someone hasn’t been keeping score, kicking the UN out of America totally has been a fever dream of the right wing for decades now. This denial of diplomatic standards to Iran increases the pressure on the UN to withdraw at least somewhat on their own. If Trump wins 2020, you can bet the UN will indeed be kicked out and likely the General Assembly moved to Vienna.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag) Jan 6, 2020 • 3:18:41pm

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

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there are no adults / professionals
not one person will push back

The Pentagon is really covering itself in glory this week. First they they apparently ran a psyop on Trump by presenting him with the absurd option to kill Soleimani, thinking it would spur him to commit to a more moderate action. That blew up.

Today, the letter to Iraq fuckup.

— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 6, 2020

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag) Jan 6, 2020 • 3:19:39pm

re: #198 Targetpractice

Esper has gotta be hating life right now.

no sympathy

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TedStriker Jan 6, 2020 • 3:21:46pm

re: #171 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Civil War medical museum prepares to amputate Confederate flag from logo

While I understand the reasoning somewhat, that museum is a place where I can see having the Stars-and-Bars alongside the US flag, even in the logo, because it deals with the how both sides handled battlefield medicine. This (and places like the national battlefields) is exactly a place where I would expect the Stars-and-Bars to be, because it is history; the matter is just relegating it to history everywhere else, where it belongs.

Edit: After reading a paywall-free version of the story, it’s clearer that the logo is the only place the Stars-and-Bars (and also the US flag) is going away from, due to a now-broader mission.

stripes.com

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unproven innocence Jan 6, 2020 • 3:22:57pm

re: #173 Belafon

Just make it white, the only Confederate flag we recognize.

The Confederate flag isn’t white enough yet.
/

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Patricia Kayden Jan 6, 2020 • 3:27:17pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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Gervais was always a douche. Never found him funny. That’s why I love the American “Office” and have only watched a few episodes of the original British version. Gervais has too much of a high opinion of himself. Like Trump.

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makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 3:28:19pm

Trump apparently sent an explanation to Congress…Blumenthal ain’t buying.

Having just reviewed the President’s classified notification to Congress, I can say unequivocally: it is totally unsatisfying, & there is no reason—none—for it to be classified & the American people to be left in the dark.

— Richard Blumenthal (@SenBlumenthal) January 6, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 3:30:04pm

Starting Monday, U.S. Customs and Border Protection will collect swabs from people apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol at the Canadian border in or near Detroit. https://t.co/Hkf0iOO8yd

— The Detroit News (@detroitnews) January 6, 2020

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retired cynic Jan 6, 2020 • 3:31:39pm

Charlie Pierce:

You have been informed, Congress. You have been informed, Iran.

No, really. It’s down there below the cat videos.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jan 6, 2020 • 3:32:36pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

If the AncestryDNA test comes back with anything other than American, you’re getting deported.

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makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 3:35:23pm

re: #204 Barefoot Grin

So I guess IraniansdetestSuleimani is trending (not using hashtag). It’s being used to say the Trump is a hero who won’t be forgotten and the Dems support Suleimani. And of course, it’s being glommed onto by Cernovich and the usual suspects. This stupid world.

Edited: but, hell, if this is a real thing then great. All I’m saying is that the Democrats who actually knew of Suleimani detested him too. They were thinking of consequences.

I checked that out earlier, looks mostly bot-driven.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 3:40:16pm

;)

pic.twitter.com/8sOjUSvKgc

— Tin Tin (@TinTinResists) January 6, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 3:42:16pm

Liar. You tweeted it out because, you’re such a moron, you believed it was real. Also, Rouhani is still in power.

It’s no wonder your family hates you. https://t.co/sDV7crkhlS

— Polly Sigh (@dcpoll) January 6, 2020

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Eventual Carrion Jan 6, 2020 • 3:42:23pm

re: #171 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Civil War medical museum prepares to amputate Confederate flag from logo

See there is one place I can see it being part of the display/logo. That was part of the war and a place that is dedicated to looking at that war kinda has a reason to have depictions of it.

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makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 3:42:54pm

Here’s an interesting thread about a private Russian jet - owned by the head of a Russian bank - landing in Florida while Trump was down there on the weekend, staying 22 hours, then going home.

Russian jet from Moscow, lands in Florida, where the president is, for about 24 hours, arrives and leaves in the middle of the night, and doesn’t want to be identified on flight trackers. This is definitely something.

— Shay (@realdivipro) January 5, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 3:43:27pm

The tweet says the world is a better place without either one in power but Rouhani is still in power.

You really don’t get to call anyone else “dim witted”

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) January 6, 2020

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 3:44:27pm

Also, the Iraqi government acknowledges that it received a copy of said draft mistake letter. https://t.co/Z5zfyr4wVM

— Dan Lamothe (@DanLamothe) January 6, 2020

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Eventual Carrion Jan 6, 2020 • 3:45:24pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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I like the chair tho’. My BeautyRest desk chair is nice and comfy too so I won’t complain much.

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unproven innocence Jan 6, 2020 • 3:48:40pm

re: #219 makeitstop

Here’s an interesting thread about a private Russian jet - owned by the head of a Russian bank - landing in Florida while Trump was down there on the weekend, staying 22 hours, then going home.

Not responding with IDENT signaling from/to airports is a SERIOUS hazard. That’s why it’s fucking illegal.
Air traffic control radar beacon system

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Jebediah, RBG Jan 6, 2020 • 3:54:44pm

re: #101 Jay C

It isn’t: but then, that’s what you’re paying your whatever-percent “organic” premium for: to be sure.

For some folks it is partially for the less-damaging farming practices.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 4:04:34pm

.@PeteHegseth is calling for the commission of war crimes. This isn’t about international law: these actions are outlawed by federal law. Utterly disgraceful he remains employed by @foxnews https://t.co/RKnienphWu

— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) January 6, 2020

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Colère Tueur de Lapin Jan 6, 2020 • 4:06:03pm

re: #224 Jebediah, RBG

For some folks it is partially for the less-damaging farming practices.

OrganIc farming has a much higher soul erosion rate than farming techniques that can use low-till and no-till. And organic farming uses pesticides, they are just not made from petrochemicals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 6, 2020 • 4:07:50pm

1. That meal looks delicious.

2. Who made you go? Did the Film Industry Gestapo come your house, arrest you, and force you to attend the awards? If not, why did you go? Why not attend the BQA Awards instead? https://t.co/KOMgT2wdia

I bet you can get meat in your meal there. https://t.co/32CAHYi5HT

— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) January 7, 2020

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Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 4:10:10pm

I met Kevin Kruse on the elevator, and despite how much he dunks on Dinesh, he’s not as tall as you think. I’m giving him a true height of 6’3’ https://t.co/zomRy4kYcS

— profloumoore (@loumoore12) January 6, 2020

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BigPapa Jan 6, 2020 • 4:15:08pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I would do morally questionable things for good brussel sprouts with a quality risotto.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jan 6, 2020 • 4:17:48pm

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley: “That letter is a draft, it was a mistake, it was unsigned, it should not have been released…poorly worded, implies withdrawal, that is not what’s happening” https://t.co/P3BdjLUYsc

— Ryan Browne (@rabrowne75) January 6, 2020

“I ran out of gas! I got a flat tire! I didn’t have change for cab fare! I lost my tux at the cleaners! I locked my keys in the car! An old friend came in from out of town! Someone stole my car! There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!”

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Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 4:18:47pm

There’s something strange about this explanation. Its 2020. Who today prints draft letters? Why is there no stamp or words on this letter making clear that it is a draft? When I worked in the USG, we always did that. I even do that for unprinted draft documents in my computer. https://t.co/UCzDkLJUdY

— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) January 6, 2020

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe. Jan 6, 2020 • 4:19:30pm

re: #223 unproven innocence

Not responding with IDENT signaling from/to airports is a SERIOUS hazard. That’s why it’s fucking illegal.

Any old Joe Schmoe trying that will have F-16’s dropping by for a friendly visit in short order.

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BigPapa Jan 6, 2020 • 4:20:26pm

Finally some good news:

In today’s inexplicable manifestation of late-stage capitalism: a vending machine by my office that sells RAW CUTS OF SALMON and ONLY!! raw cuts of salmon. Who… who is the target customer?? Who tf is out here buying RAW FISH from a VENDING MACHINE?? pic.twitter.com/s58LFMmGhN

— JY Yang ✍🏼 (they/them) (@halleluyang) January 6, 2020

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2020 • 4:20:31pm

#BREAKING

Q4 2019 Democratic Candidates Totals

1. Sanders 34.5M
2. Buttigieg 24.7M
3. Biden 22.7M
4. Warren 21.2M
5. Yang 16.5M
6. Klobuchar 11.4M
7. Booker 6.6M
8. Gabbard 3.4M #YangMediaBlackout pic.twitter.com/qXOtHwWUcN

— B R A N S O N 🥂🧢 (@gregorious555) January 6, 2020

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DodgerFan1988 Jan 6, 2020 • 4:32:49pm

Kids were throwing snowballs at passing cars — then police say one of the drivers shot them https://t.co/nBTwUgvd5C pic.twitter.com/bwVPGYGQmV

— CBS News (@CBSNews) January 6, 2020

NRA: “Self-defense!”

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Amory Blaine Jan 6, 2020 • 4:32:58pm

The Anarchist Daughter of the GOP’s Gerrymandering Mastermind Just Dumped His Maps and Files on Google Drive

The daughter of late GOP gerrymandering mastermind just put all of his files online in a Google Drive for anyone to read.

Thomas Hofeller, who died in 2018, was crucial to the Republican Party’s redistricting efforts across the country: He drew up tons of maps that the party used to make districts easier for them to win — sometimes at the expense of minorities’ voting rights. In an effort to defend their state’s political map in a lawsuit, Republicans had tried to keep Hofeller’s files secret.

But on Sunday, his daughter, Stephanie, who identifies as an anarchist, tweeted them out. She’d announced her plans to release the files last month and has now made them public on a website: thehofellerfiles.com, which links to a Google Drive full of his emails and documents related to his gerrymandering work.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty! Jan 6, 2020 • 4:33:37pm

re: #233 BigPapa

Finally some good news:

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Well, except that they don’t know how to spell “filet.”

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2020 • 4:34:22pm

Sacha Baron Cohen, for the win pic.twitter.com/xJXUOOoTU1

— Dave Itzkoff (@ditzkoff) January 6, 2020

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Eventual Carrion Jan 6, 2020 • 4:37:58pm

Fucking auto-aimer hacks just ruin first person shooter games. Fucking cheats

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Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 4:41:00pm

Another failed negotiation.

Washington’s ambassador to Afghanistan ended his term and left the country on Monday as scheduled, a State Department spokesperson told AFP, even as US-Taliban peace talks remained on hold https://t.co/6TTYFVbe3o

— AFP news agency (@AFP) January 7, 2020

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Mattand Jan 6, 2020 • 4:42:12pm

re: #239 Eventual Carrion

Fucking auto-aimer hacks just ruin first person shooter games. Fucking cheats

Which game?

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2020 • 4:44:03pm

re: #233 BigPapa

Finally some good news:

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Can whale meat vending machines be far behind? (I have tasted whale; we had a Norwegian exchange student in the early 1970s who revisited us many times over the years; about 20 years ago he smuggled in whale for us to taste. He needn’t have taken the trouble).

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2020 • 4:50:27pm

The Warren-Castro ticket on Inauguration day. pic.twitter.com/DJSheNqfjf

— Adam Best (@adamcbest) January 6, 2020

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Eventual Carrion Jan 6, 2020 • 4:51:08pm

re: #241 Mattand

Which game?

Unreal Tournament.

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 4:51:47pm

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Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 4:52:27pm

.@marcorubio isn’t the brightest bulb or anything, but he is a lawyer, so knows full well that he’s leading the charge for a coverup here, because this is not how trying cases works. https://t.co/sbFlgwdwCu

— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) January 7, 2020

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Barefoot Grin Jan 6, 2020 • 4:55:42pm

On the subject of mustaches—I usually don’t shave over winter break. I made a record of 17 days this year. My wife kind of likes the rugged look for awhile at first, but then she stops kissing me. And since I’m a dilettante, I don’t know how to trim the upper lip. So by yesterday I could feel the heat of my coffee as it soaked into my whiskers. And the itching. Good riddance.

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plansbandc Jan 6, 2020 • 4:57:04pm

re: #210 Patricia Kayden

He’s one of several popular comedians I find totally unfunny.

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sagehen Jan 6, 2020 • 4:58:37pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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worth pointing out…

vegan meals also qualify as kosher, halal, and ok for people who have dietary restrictions since their heart disease and/or blood pressure diagnosis.

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goddamnedfrank Jan 6, 2020 • 4:59:18pm

I love the way Graham feels he has to pussyfoot around making the argument to Trump not to commit war crimes https://t.co/DgxiY1rw6r

— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 7, 2020

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Hecuba's daughter Jan 6, 2020 • 5:01:27pm

<re: #249 sagehen

worth pointing out…

vegan meals also qualify as kosher, halal, and ok for people who have dietary restrictions since their heart disease and/or blood pressure diagnosis.

In my sister’s household, they may have to be gluten free too!

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Shropshire Slasher Jan 6, 2020 • 5:01:41pm

re: #239 Eventual Carrion

Fucking auto-aimer hacks just ruin first person shooter games. Fucking cheats

Headshot!
Headshot!
I loved playing that game. Did they update it? You running windows 98?! /

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Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 5:04:33pm

has anything this crew done or said since killing Soleimani increased the likelihood they know what the heck they are doing?

— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) January 6, 2020

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jan 6, 2020 • 5:05:00pm

Non-life-threatening so no sacrifice for the Tree of Liberty. This time. Even so, surviving a gunshot wound was damned scary and painful for this (then) 33 year old combat veteran when I was accidentally shot in 1982. I can’t imagine what it would be like for an actual child.

Kids, aged 12 and 13, shot by driver after throwing snowballs at passing cars

Two children, ages 12 and 13, were shot after throwing snowballs at passing cars in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, police said.

The pair was hurling snowballs at passing cars with a group of children on Saturday evening, Milwaukee police said in a series of tweets.
One of the snowballs struck a white Toyota, and the driver of the car shot at the children, police said.
Police found the 12-year-old girl and the 13-year-old boy minutes apart. Both of their injuries were non-life-threatening.
Both children are being treated at a local hospital, police said.

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Ace Rothstein Jan 6, 2020 • 5:07:19pm

re: #253 Dread Pirate

Nyet.

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Blind Frog Belly White Jan 6, 2020 • 5:09:09pm

re: #254 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Non-life-threatening so no sacrifice for the Tree of Liberty. This time. Even so, surviving a gunshot wound was damned scary and painful for this (then) 33 year old combat veteran when I was accidentally shot in 1982. I can’t imagine what it would be like for an actual child.

Kids, aged 12 and 13, shot by driver after throwing snowballs at passing cars

Hey, non-life-threatening wounds still bleed, don’t they?

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gocart mozart Jan 6, 2020 • 5:22:00pm

I’m afraid this is only the tip of what’s coming.

— Elad Nehorai (@PopChassid) January 7, 2020

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Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 5:25:27pm

Secretary of State Pompeo indicated to Mitch McConnell he would not run for Kansas Senate seat in 2020, source close to the Senate Republican leader says https://t.co/rGSZKGIYcY pic.twitter.com/F19zfj5nx8

— Reuters (@Reuters) January 7, 2020

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Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 5:27:15pm

NEW: The Pentagon has identified the service member killed in a terror attack on a U.S. base in Kenya as Army Spc. Henry Mayfield Jr., 23, of Evergreen Park, Illinois. https://t.co/BiBhdOtL4l pic.twitter.com/8Lu45h8REX

— ABC News (@ABC) January 6, 2020

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Joe Bacon 🌹 Jan 6, 2020 • 5:27:41pm

re: #258 Dread Pirate

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…because he knew that son of a CENSORED saw the pools that he would lose!

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Amory Blaine Jan 6, 2020 • 5:29:03pm

Unhinged Trumper is my guess.

Suspect in custody for Waukesha County Courthouse bomb threat, sheriff’s department says

The announcement of the arrest comes just a few hours after the Waukesha County Sheriff’s Department released images of a man labeled as a person of interest and his vehicle.

Sheriff Eric Severson said in a news conference shortly before noon that the threat was being treated as serious. He said there was enough information in the threat to warrant the evacuation.

A Milwaukee County K-9 unit swept the buildings. Severson declined to discuss what, if anything, was found.

The evacuation began shortly after a call was received at a local TV news station, WITI, in which an anonymous caller claimed that “five bombs were placed in the courthouse, and the first one was set to go off at 9 a.m.,” Severson said at the news conference, held in the north parking lot along Moreland Boulevard.

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Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 5:42:10pm

pic.twitter.com/JopQCWeSTo

— Democracy wins (@BershodM) January 6, 2020

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jan 6, 2020 • 5:49:56pm

VERY hard to watch, but shows real heroism and humanity.

Sometimes you see a video that makes your heart drop. This one did that to me. It’s of a woman rescuing a badly burnt and wailing koala from the Australian fires. Heartbreaking. #AustraliaFires pic.twitter.com/y6jzAeKN69

— Scott Dworkin (@funder) January 6, 2020

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retired cynic Jan 6, 2020 • 5:51:23pm

re: #263 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

VERY hard to watch, but shows real heroism and humanity.

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tears! good for her!

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Belafon Jan 6, 2020 • 5:52:10pm

re: #263 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There was a DK diary about it yesterday. Sadly, that koala had to be put to sleep due to too many burns.

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retired cynic Jan 6, 2020 • 5:52:36pm

re: #265 Belafon

There was a DK diary about it yesterday. Sadly, that koala had to be put to sleep due to too many burns.

aahh…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jan 6, 2020 • 5:54:40pm

If I am understanding the numbers correctly (8000 in NSW alone), something like 10% of the entire world koala population has been killed in these fires.

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Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 5:58:41pm

if we keep reading the thread, we learn that the letter was a draft that was “accidentally delivered” to the iraqis. our foreign policy is truly a well-oiled machine https://t.co/xciKHiRx4V

— Gerry Doyle (@mgerrydoyle) January 6, 2020

then there’s this: https://t.co/53pAKMUE1W

— Gerry Doyle (@mgerrydoyle) January 6, 2020

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bratwurst Jan 6, 2020 • 5:59:16pm

Sec. of State Mike Pompeo told Mitch McConnell on Monday that he will not run for the open senate seat in Kansas, according to two people familiar with the conversation w/ @JoshNBCNews

First reported by the NY Times

GOP thought Pompeo was the best hope to beat Kris Kobach

— Leigh Ann Caldwell (@LACaldwellDC) January 7, 2020

Bottom line: the priority is for Trump to have a right hand man obsequious enough to please his master for the next 12 months. The Senate majority is in serious trouble with or without Kobach as the candidate.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel Jan 6, 2020 • 6:00:21pm

The Borowitz Report:

Ayatollah Mystified That He Is the Only Dictator Trump Dislikes

Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, is “completely baffled” as to why he appears to be the only dictator whom Donald J. Trump does not like, the autocrat said on Monday.

Speaking to reporters in Tehran, the long-reigning tyrant expressed puzzlement and dismay that Trump had not given him the adulation that he has showered on seemingly every other totalitarian in the world.

“Trump loves Vladimir Putin and Mohammed bin Salman, and he’s even given Kim Jong Un a cute nickname, but, for some mysterious reason, I leave him cold,” the visibly saddened Ayatollah said. “I just don’t get it.”

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Dread Pirate Jan 6, 2020 • 6:04:44pm

Another Trump campaign email Monday is claiming “progress to denuclearize North Korea.” pic.twitter.com/k0KSb15sPp

— William Gallo (@GalloVOA) January 6, 2020

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Renaissance_Man Jan 6, 2020 • 6:07:03pm

re: #267 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

If I am understanding the numbers correctly (8000 in NSW alone), something like 10% of the entire world koala population has been killed in these fires.

30%. Between this and chlamydia, the wild koala is likely to go extinct.

The fires in Australia are an extinction-level event. Not just for wildlife, but for the nation as a whole. An area the size of France is burning. 500 million animals or more are gone. Between low population, large land area, and lack of infrastructure, only the cities can really be defended. Any town smaller than 10,000 people or so is simply evacuated and abandoned. And these fires are likely to intensify and continue for the next two months. They will stop when it rains or when there is nothing left to burn.

Australia’s environment has always been uniquely fragile. It is the canary in the coal mine of climate change, which will render it lifeless far more surely than a nuclear holocaust would. It may be the first nation to have its government fall due to climate change - the first of many across the world, which will lead to untold suffering and bloodshed but unfortunately needs to come if humanity is to survive this crisis.

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unproven innocence Jan 6, 2020 • 6:12:27pm

re: #270 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Borowitz Report:

Ayatollah Mystified That He Is the Only Dictator Trump Dislikes

IMHO, first-class trolling of Resident Trump. Well done.

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bratwurst Jan 6, 2020 • 6:13:01pm

Can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE de-platform Bret Stephens, Thomas Friedman and Andrew Sullivan already?

I contacted a family friend in his late 70s who is a LONG TIME fan of Friedman this weekend begging him not to email out the last column, that I hate for someone I care about to associate himself with a man so utterly and completely discredited on Middle East matters. Even he conceded that he couldn’t understand where Friedman was coming from at all.

The fact that Friedman’s point of view strikes such a bizarre note even in these batshit insane times we are living in is astounding to me.

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jaunte Jan 6, 2020 • 6:16:50pm

re: #269 bratwurst

Sec. of State Mike Pompeo told Mitch McConnell on Monday that he will not run for the open senate seat in Kansas

He has a date… with RAPTURE!

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makeitstop Jan 6, 2020 • 6:22:35pm

Iran’s UN Ambassador just threatened an attack on the U.S. on @NewsHour: “We have to take revenge. When that would happen, how that would happen, where that would happen, that remains to be seen.” Wow.

— Josh Rogin (@joshrogin) January 7, 2020

Shit just keeps getting more insane.

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BigPapa Jan 6, 2020 • 6:28:28pm

we finally got a leader as batshit insane as them

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danarchy Jan 6, 2020 • 6:28:49pm

re: #249 sagehen

worth pointing out…

vegan meals also qualify as kosher, halal, and ok for people who have dietary restrictions since their heart disease and/or blood pressure diagnosis.

Those are all good reasons to serve vegan food, none of them is why they did though. Apparently they had already set traditional menu and ordered everything and someone at the last moment decided the Globes should make a statement and set an example by going vegan. They sent the kitchen scrambling to develop and source a new menu last minute. The chef said he was happy with the decision and pleased with the results, but I guarantee there was a lot of cursing in that kitchen for while.

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Ace Rothstein Jan 6, 2020 • 6:44:34pm

re: #267 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I read that over 500 MILLION animals have died in the Australian wildfires. 500 MILLION.

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Jebediah, RBG Jan 7, 2020 • 1:38:52pm

re: #226 Colère Tueur de Lapin

OrganIc farming has a much higher soul erosion rate than farming techniques that can use low-till and no-till. And organic farming uses pesticides, they are just not made from petrochemicals.

I don’t know anywhere near enough about farming practices to have much of an opinion. I do know that the assumption of less-harmful farming practices contributes to some people’s decision to buy organic. Personally, I would really like to see less pesticide use wherever possible; I am also guilty of assuming that petrochemical-based pesticides might be more harmful than non-petrochemical pesticides.

Does the soul erosion rate indicate that organic farming is Satanic?

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 7, 2020 • 1:49:58pm

re: #280 Jebediah, RBG

I don’t know anywhere near enough about farming practices to have much of an opinion. I do know that the assumption of less-harmful farming practices contributes to some people’s decision to buy organic. Personally, I would really like to see less pesticide use wherever possible; I am also guilty of assuming that petrochemical-based pesticides might be more harmful than non-petrochemical pesticides.

Does the soul erosion rate indicate that organic farming is Satanic?

Farmer here:
all of these statements:

OrganIc farming has a much higher soul erosion rate than farming techniques that can use low-till and no-till. And organic farming uses pesticides, they are just not made from petrochemicals.

are strawman arguments.

There is no reason for organic farming to be singled out in that statement because ANY traditional farming technique is erosive.

I am an organic farmer because I do not like using poisons. The statement used implies that non-petrochemical pesticides = poison, which is complete balderdash.

I also use several old-school farming methods that mitigate erosion.

OTOH, if organic farming is Satanic, then I guess I’m a heathen.

oh, wait, I am a heathen already.

never mind….

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 7, 2020 • 2:15:22pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, to be clear, I do not like to use poisons (or GMO crops) because some of them kill bees and other beneficial insects.

I also do not like having them around where children and domestic animals and wildlife can get at it.

also, I do not want poison in my food.

I’m just weird that way

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Jebediah, RBG Jan 7, 2020 • 2:22:06pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you for the reply and info!
Re the soul erosion - I guess the relevant question is does it turn regular heathens like us into demons, or are we already as heathen as we are going to get?
Or is it having a bad effect on David Soul specifically?

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Jebediah, RBG Jan 7, 2020 • 2:24:02pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, to be clear, I do not like to use poisons (or GMO crops) because some of them kill bees and other beneficial insects.

I also do not like having them around where children and domestic animals and wildlife can get at it.

also, I do not want poison in my food.

I’m just weird that way

I must be pretty weird too, then.
The loss of insects (ESPECIALLY bees) has me a bit freaked out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth Jan 7, 2020 • 3:13:05pm

re: #284 Jebediah, RBG

I’ve been a farmer or work-related to the ag industry most of my life and I usually do not response to provocative (disparaging) posts about organic farming or pro-GMO topics because my initial reactions are not nice.

Farming is my business and I get more than a little prickly when non-farmers butt in with non-supported opinions/sweeping accusations.

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Jebediah, RBG Jan 7, 2020 • 3:51:31pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve been a farmer or work-related to the ag industry most of my life and I usually do not response to provocative (disparaging) posts about organic farming or pro-GMO topics because my initial reactions are not nice.

Farming is my business and I get more than a little prickly when non-farmers butt in with non-supported opinions/sweeping accusations.

I totally get that.There are times when prickliness is totally appropriate. It doesn’t happen to me as much now that I am back in post-production, but when I was teaching I was informed that teacher’s unions are the problem with education, teachers have it SO easy cuz we usually get out early in the afternoon (which is true - but finishing the work I took home frequently kept me busy until 11 pm,) and that it is a terrible thing that the parents of special needs kids try to get them a proper education. Grrrrr.

Worst I get these days is someone insisting that documentaries are not edited - what you see on the screen is the camera running continuously from start to finish. Or not understanding that deceptive editing exists and can be very effective.

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