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1
goddamnedfrank  Jan 6, 2020 • 6:31:06pm

Seriously they need to fucking get it together.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 6, 2020 • 6:32:58pm

Another successful SpaceX launch. This first stage has landed 4 times now. We’re truly in the age of a reusable rocket booster. My dad wouldn’t believe the changes in the last 30 years.

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unproven innocence  Jan 6, 2020 • 6:39:48pm

Just a hunch on my part, but I think elements of a deal reached in very late December between Iran and China may have been relevent to Trump’s decision on Jan 2 to go with the drone strikes at Baghdad Airport.

The Point: China, Iran work together on nuclear deal

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 6, 2020 • 6:44:02pm

I check in at Marcy’s twitter feed at least once a day, but more often than not I have no idea what she’s saying.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 6, 2020 • 6:45:41pm

of course

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 6, 2020 • 6:47:08pm

re: #4 Barefoot Grin

I check in at Marcy’s twitter feed at least once a day, but more often than not I have no idea what she’s saying.

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So, simplified, I guess she’s asking if anyone with FOIA expertise can search Department of Defense data to find evidence of correspondence before the decision to get by the B5.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2020 • 6:50:35pm
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Dread Pirate  Jan 6, 2020 • 6:58:57pm

You’ll certainly get trained on toilet seat orientation.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:01:32pm

re: #8 Dread Pirate

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You’ll certainly get trained on toilet seat orientation.

Little Women reboot?

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:06:51pm

Photo break? Caught this street scene just 2 hours ago. 5th and Hill downtown. Something about the light on the buildings, twilight and that bright moon.

Moon Over Broadway
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:10:32pm

re: #7 jaunte

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THAT CENSORED KILLED MY SON!

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:12:55pm

3 word bite-size propaganda bits.

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BigPapa  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:14:48pm

re: #12 jaunte

It’s like Hannity Hate Crackers

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Amory Blaine  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:15:25pm

Derangement, in four panels.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:16:04pm

re: #13 BigPapa

Conspiracy Capsaicin!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:18:14pm

re: #14 Amory Blaine

Derangement, in four panels.

Well observed.

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BigPapa  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:18:35pm

re: #15 jaunte

Conspiracy Capsaicin!

Just need some Smear Schmear and ‘Chef’s Kiss’

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Dread Pirate  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:20:09pm
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jaunte  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:21:19pm

re: #18 Dread Pirate

Rubio knows how wrong he is, but he will persist.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:26:05pm

re: #18 Dread Pirate

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Rubio is a hack. He’s not stupid like Trump is. He’s a thinking man’s liar.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:26:30pm

re: #19 jaunte

Rubio knows how wrong he is, but he will persist.

He’s nothing but a troll.

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:30:33pm
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Dread Pirate  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:46:13pm
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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:47:11pm

re: #23 Dread Pirate

Which of our other allies would honor such a disgusting act?

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jaunte  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:48:09pm

“…here is an entire class of people — hell, not even just a class! In many cases it’s a very specific group of individuals! — whose complete failure, as leaders, as strategists, as analysts, as reporters, as prognosticators, already and in full view of the whole human race killed millions of people, destroyed a society, and fucked up an entire region of the globe… running it back! In much the same positions of authority and prominence as before. The warmongers are never ruined by their mistakes; that’s a consequence they’ll go on assigning to the whole rest of the world, until there’s no world left to bear it.”

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retired cynic  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:52:31pm

re: #25 jaunte

Upding for truth.

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gocart mozart  Jan 6, 2020 • 7:56:19pm
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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2020 • 8:20:10pm
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BigPapa  Jan 6, 2020 • 8:24:48pm

which wunnaya too cheap to call an Uber?

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Dread Pirate  Jan 6, 2020 • 8:33:30pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jan 6, 2020 • 8:39:44pm

As a long-time news junkie, this could be an AWESOME game!

Let me suggest some DLC:
Opening music to famous news shows (“Frontline” WILL NOT LEAVE MY HEAD NOW!)
“Famous” hosts like Hannity and Limbaugh.
A Historical Hosts pack with Cronkite, Reasoner, Huntley and Brinkley.
More historical hosts like Father Coughlin!
(A Julius Streitcher DLC would not be legal in Germany. Thanks for that! And skip Matt Lauer, please!)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 6, 2020 • 8:48:09pm

re: #31 Sherlock Hound

As a long-time news junkie, this could be an AWESOME game!

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Let me suggest some DLC:
Opening music to famous news shows (“Frontline” WILL NOT LEAVE MY HEAD NOW!)
“Famous” hosts like Hannity and Limbaugh.
A Historical Hosts pack with Cronkite, Reasoner, Huntley and Brinkley.
More historical hosts like Father Coughlin!
(A Julius Streitcher DLC would not be legal in Germany. Thanks for that! And skip Matt Lauer, please!)

Father Coughlin????

OH HELL NO!

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BeachDem  Jan 6, 2020 • 8:48:12pm

Meanwhile, as Nikki runs her ignorant mouth on Hannity and Lindsey crawls up into Trump’s abdomen, here in south by dog carolina…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 6, 2020 • 8:49:36pm

re: #33 BeachDem

It would be glorious to see Jamie take out Miss Lindsay!

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Dread Pirate  Jan 6, 2020 • 8:51:52pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 6, 2020 • 8:57:01pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jan 6, 2020 • 8:57:54pm

re: #32 Joe Bacon 🌹

Heh. The government in the game is 1980’s populist, kind of if Nixon never resigned. I can’t wait to see where this goes!

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:04:26pm

re: #24 retired cynic

Which of our other allies would honor such a disgusting act?

Short answer? None. Hell, Russia and China would likely make a big show of violating them just to prove how powerless Trump is.

Not that it really matters, as sanctions that have any real teeth to them would require Congressional approval, something Trump is going to find little of if he tries to seriously go forward with this shit.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:04:37pm

Are there four GOP Senators with the character to demand live testimony in the Senate? I’m not holding my breath. thehill.com

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sagehen  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:05:15pm

So how many of you, if any, watched tonight’s American Experience on PBS? McCarthy. Disturbingly parallel to Trump. Deliberately, I think. Including the “OK” sign…

Reassuring that it was slightly under 4 years before he overstepped to such a degree the Army finally brought him down. Within 2 years of losing his mojo, he was dead from alcoholism (cirrhosis of the liver).

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:10:36pm

Man, 2020 was an unbelievable year.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:12:06pm
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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:13:26pm

re: #39 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Are there four GOP Senators with the character to demand live testimony in the Senate? I’m not holding my breath. thehill.com

So far, all seem to be going along with McConnell’s plan, which is to hold a vote on witnesses after the Senate has heard the AoI sent from the House. The expectation being that the vote will fail on a party line, at which point the Senate Repubs go “Well, I didn’t hear anything from a direct witness,” then vote to “acquit” on the excuse that the evidence was all “hearsay.”

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:17:42pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:21:15pm

re: #43 Targetpractice

So far, all seem to be going along with McConnell’s plan, which is to hold a vote on witnesses after the Senate has heard the AoI sent from the House. The expectation being that the vote will fail on a party line, at which point the Senate Repubs go “Well, I didn’t hear anything from a direct witness,” then vote to “acquit” on the excuse that the evidence was all “hearsay.”

That’s what I am expecting, but maybe they will surprise me. It would only take 4 of them to stop the insanity.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:24:02pm

re: #45 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That’s what I am expecting, but maybe they will surprise me. It would only take 4 of them to stop the insanity.

That’s like playing russian roulette with 1 empty chamber.

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BigPapa  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:25:48pm

Prager was ranting about anti-Zionism being anti-semitic. They cannot compete without bad faith arguments

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:26:01pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

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I got a feeling that’s a Russian Troll slandering Ilhan!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:26:54pm

re: #47 BigPapa

Prager was ranting about anti-Zionism being anti-semitic. They cannot compete without bad faith arguments

The same Dennis Prager who trashed Anne Frank.

Prager is lower than scum.

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Targetpractice  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:32:26pm

re: #45 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That’s what I am expecting, but maybe they will surprise me. It would only take 4 of them to stop the insanity.

Hence why McConnell’s desperate ploy is to offer a “vote” on witnesses, but only after the House hands over the AoI and thus surrenders all leverage.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:37:26pm

Hi.

My wife and I just got home. Probably going to hit the rack soon.

Ten days, two thousand miles, about $2,000, everyone in my family except my mother hates my wife and me.

All in all a pretty good trip. /s

At least we had some good food and I got to go to the Museum of Science and Industry.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:37:47pm

YouTube

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:43:46pm

I gotta count my loose change

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:48:37pm

re: #52 Dread Pirate

PolitiFact

@PolitiFact
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Trump didn’t threaten to target Iran’s cultural sites. He did. bit.ly

From the article:
“President Trump didn’t say he’d go after a cultural site,” Pompeo said. “Read what he said very closely.”

They are all liars in this administration— it’s no different from Trump telling everyone to read the transcript. And these liars assume, with total justification, that MAGAts will accept their word. Trumpsters are incapable of logical thinking; they are religious fundamentalists who treat their orange messiah as infallible and his words as absolute truth.

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:50:09pm

re: #52 Dread Pirate

Liar

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ckkatz  Jan 6, 2020 • 9:53:55pm

re: #6 Barefoot Grin

So, simplified, I guess she’s asking if anyone with FOIA expertise can search Department of Defense data to find evidence of correspondence before the decision to get by the B5.

Yup, she’s talking about Exemption B5 in the Freedom of Information Act. Which, I would guess that she suspects will be used to quash attempts to find out what happened here.

It exempts from mandatory disclosure “inter-agency or intra-agency memorandums or letters which would not be available by law to a party other than an agency in litigation with the agency.”

foia.wiki

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 6, 2020 • 10:06:43pm

Utah Flies Public Employees To Mexico To Fill Prescriptions And Isn’t That Normal AF? (Goes to Wonkette, more at the link):

Utah came up with a great idea to save big money on prescription drugs: Fly public employees who need the most expensive meds to Mexico, where they can purchase the same drugs they’d get in US America for about half what they cost here. And as an incentive, the program, called “RX Tourism,” pays airfare for the employee and one family member, plus $500 per trip to get a 90-day supply of meds. The savings in costs to the state insurance plan more than cover the cost of the travel and the $500 cash payouts. It’s such a big savings for some employers that there’s an entire niche industry built around arranging trips for Americans to purchase drugs at Mexican hospitals. The Salt Lake Tribune ran a jaw-dropping story on the arrangement Sunday.

You know, maybe what we laughingly call our healthcare “system” is completely fucked up if those are the lengths employers and states are going to so they can cover pricey prescription drugs. But at least it’s not socialism!

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2020 • 10:12:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 6, 2020 • 10:23:04pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

Well, that’s a direct violation of the UN Charter (as if conservatives ever gave a crap about that):

(Reuters) - The United States has denied a visa to Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif that would have allowed him to attend a United Nations Security Council meeting in New York on Thursday, a U.S. official said.
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reuters.com

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Dread Pirate  Jan 6, 2020 • 10:34:48pm

Wife and I got flu shots. I told my daughters once a month starting in September. they didn’t go. one daughter is just getting over the flu, other daughter hardly ever gets sick but there’s still more flu season. Just reminded her again to get a shot. Walk in, show card, get shot, leave. It’s not a hassle.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 6, 2020 • 10:41:39pm

Rep. Gosar shared on Twitter a faked picture of President Obama shaking hands with Ayatollah Kahmenei (it was faked from a picture of President Obama shaking hands with India’s prime minister).

When his staff was called on it, they responded with “we didn’t say it was real” and left it on his Twitter feed.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Jan 6, 2020 • 10:42:53pm

This year’s flu is nasty. I had it, and I assume it’s because I got the shot that the worst phase only lasted a day. (It was a very bad day.)

Now if this cough would go away….

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 6, 2020 • 11:02:21pm

The Pentagon is planning to begin the deployment of six B-52 aircraft to the British territory of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean on Monday, according to a US official. The B-52s will be available for operations against Iran if ordered, the official said.
cnn.com

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teleskiguy  Jan 6, 2020 • 11:08:13pm

The ultra-rich seem to be enjoying the benefits of the Trump/GOP tax scam cut.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 6, 2020 • 11:14:38pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

The ultra-rich seem to be enjoying the benefits of the Trump/GOP tax scam cut.

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They are a nice ride. I got to cruise ‘The Main’ in a Rolls Standard. (American Graffiti)

I want a Bentley Continental.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 6, 2020 • 11:32:17pm

Iran’s Jewish community pays condolences after Soleimani death (Jerusalem Post)

Representatives of the Iranian Jewish community visited the home of former IRGC Quds Force commander Qasem Soleimani to pay their condolences after he was assassinated in a US strike on Thursday night.

One of the members of the Jewish community in Tehran told the Israeli, Haredi news outlet Bahadrei Hadarim that “many Jews took part in the funeral” and that members of the community, including the chief rabbi of Tehran, visited the Soleimanis’ house to pay their condolences.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 6, 2020 • 11:51:54pm

When Pete Buttigieg was asked recently in Iowa about the $100 billion the Mormon Church has stashed away and if churches should comply with the same laws as other charities, Buttigieg’s response was LOL no.

Caution for coarse language and Felicia bagging on Buttigieg as an empty suit, 14:27, goes to Utah Outcasts.

Buttigieg Defends Churches Being Privileged Institutions

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 6, 2020 • 11:57:31pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 7, 2020 • 12:07:42am

Well, I’m gonna hit the rack. It’s been a long day and a crappy trip overall. Catch y’all later.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 7, 2020 • 12:34:18am

6.6 quake off the south coast of Puerto Rico. Follow up to the 5.6 earlier.

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danarchy  Jan 7, 2020 • 12:38:15am

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

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You mean al-Baghdadi?

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Dread Pirate  Jan 7, 2020 • 12:39:28am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 7, 2020 • 12:54:33am

re: #70 Dread Pirate

6.6 quake off the south coast of Puerto Rico. Follow up to the 5.6 earlier.

So maybe that 5.6 quake was a foreshock?

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Dread Pirate  Jan 7, 2020 • 1:00:04am
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sagehen  Jan 7, 2020 • 1:12:08am

re: #70 Dread Pirate

6.6 quake off the south coast of Puerto Rico. Follow up to the 5.6 earlier.

does that mean there’ll be a tsunami in Florida?

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Dread Pirate  Jan 7, 2020 • 1:12:52am

re: #75 sagehen

Only if we’re extremely lucky.

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Teukka  Jan 7, 2020 • 1:15:27am

re: #70 Dread Pirate

6.6 quake off the south coast of Puerto Rico. Follow up to the 5.6 earlier.

re: #75 sagehen

does that mean there’ll be a tsunami in Florida?

re: #76 Dread Pirate

Only if we’re extremely lucky.

Why does the following dialogue come to mind?
A:You feel that?
B:Was it over 5.0?
A:Nope.
B:Quit stalling and deal the cards.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 7, 2020 • 1:21:58am

That sounds like here in California. but the last 4.5 right under me did some damage so I’m not going to challenge mother nature. I did that about a lightning storm once and regretted it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 2:57:03am

re: #64 teleskiguy

The ultra-rich seem to be enjoying the benefits of the Trump/GOP tax scam cut.

Carmaker Rolls-Royce annual sales surge 25%]

Just the sort of thing that really benefits working Americans…

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sagehen  Jan 7, 2020 • 3:47:51am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🎃

When Pete Buttigieg was asked recently in Iowa about the $100 billion the Mormon Church has stashed away and if churches should comply with the same laws as other charities, Buttigieg’s response was LOL no.

Caution for coarse language and Felicia bagging on Buttigieg as an empty suit, 14:27, goes to Utah Outcasts.

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Here’s a good church (there are some) who genuinely deserves tax-free status:
the parish was founded in 1844, the large church was completed in 1848 (it’s architecturally significant), but the neighborhood has changed a lot in recent generations and there’s very few Episcopalians there anymore. So they pulled out the pews, the couple of dozen parishioners sit in folding chairs for morning prayer, and then the place turns into a soup kitchen for the rest of the day. 900 meals a day, M-F.

holyapostlessoupkitchen.org

They also give out socks, underwear, soap and toothbrushes, etc to the homeless, and backpacks full of non-perishable food to homeless families, or local low-income families whose kids rely on free school lunches. Volunteers and cash donations come from dozens of smaller congregations around town (multiple faiths), non-faith groups, even corporate sponsors.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 7, 2020 • 3:58:01am

Read this about Ms. Lindsey. Sopan nails him to the wall.

From now on #PilotFish should follow Linsey around for the rest of his days.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 7, 2020 • 3:58:07am
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 7, 2020 • 4:04:54am

re: #23 Dread Pirate

So the politicians of a sovereign country asks you to leave and you sanction them? Keep in mind that we had zero valid reasons for invading their country in the first place and that our invasion destroyed their country and caused the death of thousands of their citizens.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2020 • 4:56:31am
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jeffreyw  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:05:37am

Good morning!

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:25:11am

We’re America, bitch

Many of Donald Trump’s critics find it difficult to ascribe to a president they consider to be both subliterate and historically insensate a foreign-policy doctrine that approaches coherence. A Trump Doctrine would require evidence of Trump Thought, and proof of such thinking, the argument goes, is scant. This view is informed in part by feelings of condescension, but it is not meritless.

But what is mainly interesting about “We’re America, Bitch” is its delusional quality.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:28:46am

The House is not taking this shit

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:29:17am

Make a little birdhouse in your birdhouse

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Varek Raith  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:31:19am

Hello.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:31:39am

re: #87 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

The House is not taking this shit

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I am so sick of his shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:33:51am

re: #87 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

The House is not taking this shit

Nobody should be taking that sort of shit from a public servant (which the President ultimately is)

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:43:01am
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:45:57am

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mmmirele  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:50:18am

re: #70 Dread Pirate

6.6 quake off the south coast of Puerto Rico. Follow up to the 5.6 earlier.

I woke up, saw that and said, “Oh God, Trump’s going to screw over Puerto Rico yet again, isn’t he?”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:52:27am

re: #92 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

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We’re going to be isolated because of this moron.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 5:57:53am

re: #95 HappyWarrior

We’re going to be isolated because of this moron.

Remember all those who see isolation as strength.

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Ming5000  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:08:50am

This fella had a bad day. I laughed a few times when I shouldn’t have:

BATH (WGME) — Eighty-eight-year-old Norman Kenney says that his Friday afternoon was going smoothly.

“I had just returned from the store, parked my car, and when the door closed I heard this little ‘mew,’” Kenney said.

The retired fire chief of Bath says that he thought the sound came from his cat.

“So I looked, and it was a fox, starting to come to me,” Kenney said.

He says the fox was able to take him down after pouncing on him.

“I’m in the middle of that driveway trying to beat it off with a cane, and the cane kept breaking,” Kenney said.

The fox was put down and is being checked for rabies.
Last September Kenney was also attacked by a fox, but that time Kenney was able to stay on his feet and put the fox down himself.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:09:20am

Oh, Maureen Dowd! Do you regret your “Donald The Dove” shit you posted in the Screw York Times?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:12:53am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Make a little birdhouse in your birdhouse

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How about a birdhouse in your soul?

BIRDHOUSE IN YOUR SOUL - THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS ( Complete Original Video )

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:13:10am

Dennis Prager denounces Anne Frank.

Utah Outcasts take that asshole to the woodshed.

NSFW!

Dennis Prager Dunks on Anne Frank’s Wisdom

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John Hughes  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:13:51am

re: #44 Targetpractice

Hey, it worked against Jeremy Corbyn.

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John Hughes  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:16:40am

re: #65 Dread Pirate

They are a nice ride. I got to cruise ‘The Main’ in a Rolls Standard. (American Graffiti)

I want a Bentley Continental.

I want a nice cheap car. A Bentley Turbo R should do. About EUR 20,000 these days.

Probably never be able to afford to turn the engine on though.

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:18:14am

re: #52 Dread Pirate

Don’t think that’s sufficiently loud enough to indicate Pompeo and Trump are liars.

Henry Rollins - Liar - Higher Quality

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:21:46am
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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:22:07am

re: #84 Barefoot Grin

Client number 3 with deep thoughts.

He should have been indicted along with Manafort for conspiracy and accessory to crimes for being the go-between for Trump and Manafort.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:23:02am

re: #104 jaunte

Their opinion doesn’t matter if they’re US citizens. As long as there’s no evidence they’re breaking the law, they’re entitled to have any opinion on it they want, and it’s none of the government’s business.

How do you say “Manzanar” in Farsi?

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:23:05am

re: #104 jaunte

It’s unconstitutional.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:24:44am

re: #107 lawhawk

And how absurd is it to believe this is a way to catch spies. Better to look among the membership of Trump’s golf clubs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:25:37am

re: #108 jaunte

And how absurd is it to believe this is a way to catch spies. Better to look among the membership of Trump’s golf clubs.

This is just a way of sending a message and looking “tough”.

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:28:45am
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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:29:25am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is just a way of sending a message and looking “tough”.

Image is everything. Content is irrelevant. Law is irrelevant. Rules are meant to be broken by the GOP. After all, it’s just a bunch of Muslims who aren’t real Americans.

That’s the GOP line and GOP way. They don’t care that this is illegal and improper conduct that violates the rights of these American citizens - mostly because the GOP doesn’t consider them to be American (they’re not real Americans because they aren’t white and they aren’t GOP supporters).

This is a logical end when the GOP is a white nationalist party intent on imposing their fundamentalist Christian views on everyone and treats those who disagree as unAmerican.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:29:58am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember all those who see isolation as strength.

Yeah morons.

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:30:38am

re: #110 Belafon

There’s no foreign policy here or anywhere else. It’s entirely reactionary, but the sum total of Trump’s actions have been to undermine our national security, decimate our alliances and strategic partnerships, elevate dictators and despots, and enable our rivals and enemies to fill the power vacuum Trump leaves in his wake.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:31:33am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:39:44am

re: #114 jaunte

Everywhere you look, Trump aims to increase Russian influence.

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John Hughes  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:44:26am

re: #83 Patricia Kayden

So the politicians of a sovereign country asks you to leave and you sanction them? Keep in mind that we had zero valid reasons for invading their country in the first place and that our invasion destroyed their country and caused the death of thousands of their citizens.

About a million, actually.

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Jay C  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:44:50am

re: #115 GlutenFreeJesus

Everywhere you look, Trump aims to increase Russian influence.

More like that everywhere Trump aims, he misses, but the Russians usually hit the bullseye….

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:46:59am

Think Trump would not nuke Iran? Think again. the bombers are in place already, out of reach of Iranian attacks. littlegreenfootballs.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 7, 2020 • 6:58:45am

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:00:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:01:59am

re: #119 The Pie Overlord!

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:02:36am

re: #114 jaunte

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All roads lead back to Russia

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:05:31am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:09:55am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Jay C  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:12:20am

re: #119 The Pie Overlord!

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Jay C  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:13:57am

re: #120 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

And of course, we all know “who” is politicizing the Soleimani killing for domestic advantage, right….? //

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:16:27am

re: #126 Jay C

And of course, we all know “who” is politicizing the Soleimani killing for domestic advantage, right….? //

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:18:18am

re: #126 Jay C

And of course, we all know “who” is politicizing the Soleimani killing for domestic advantage, right….? //

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Not mourning the death of this person, mourning the death of our democracy and checks and balances that were established by the founders and the constitution.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:23:41am

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

I think the movie took itself way to seriously although it did have its comedic moments.

Those are what really saved it. That and the music.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:23:49am

re: #126 Jay C

And of course, we all know “who” is politicizing the Soleimani killing for domestic advantage, right….? //

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Fucking liar.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:24:24am

re: #128 Eventual Carrion

Not mourning the death of this person, mourning the death of our democracy and checks and balances that were established by the founders and the constitution.

Something Nikki knows and cares nothing about because she just wants to kiss Trump’s ass.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:24:27am

re: #126 Jay C

“The only ones mourning the loss of Soleimani are our Democrat leadership and Democrat Presidential candidates.”]

Nobody is “mourning his loss”, at most just expressing doubts on how and why he was killed.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:26:33am
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Jay C  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:27:16am

re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nobody is “mourning his loss”, at most just expressing doubts on how and why he was killed.

Doesn’t matter shit to the GOP and the RWNM: anything other than loud, repeated and unqualified praise for Glorious Leader Trump and his brilliant “bold” action can and will be spun as “pro-terrorist”. Loudly and repeatedly.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:28:14am

I’m old enough to remember when the Left were accused of siding with terrorists for opposing dubyah’s invasion of Iraq.

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jaunte  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:28:50am
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jaunte  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:30:31am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:32:53am

Joke read elsewhere: ‘since hearing that cultural sites closely linked to Trump may be targeted by Iran, McDonalds across the DC area have been put on high alert.’

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:32:58am

re: #126 Jay C

of course, we all know “who” is politicizing the Soleimani killing for domestic advantage, right….? //

To the degenerate Republican base, this kind of lying is not a bug but a feature. They regard strawmen and half-truths (“Confederates were Democrats!”) as the very height of rhetorical trickery and wit and the ideal way to own the “thinks-they’re-smart libruls.” Right wing media and political strategists (including their Russian allies) have identified and mapped goober ignorance and resentment, fed it for 50 years, and mobilized it into a voting bloc.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:35:33am

FFS

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HappyWarrior  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:36:03am

re: #135 Dr. Matt

I’m old enough to remember when the Left were accused of siding with terrorists for opposing dubyah’s invasion of Iraq.

Same shit, different year.

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:37:47am

re: #140 Dr. Matt

Dick move.

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sagehen  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:39:36am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

Joke read elsewhere: ‘since hearing that cultural sites closely linked to Trump may be targeted by Iran, McDonalds across the DC area have been put on high alert.’

KFC

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:47:47am

Texas banksters have invented time travel. If you owe them money, the black magic of 21st century technology allows them to grab it instantly. If they owe you money, it’s suddenly 1890 again and you have to wait for the stagecoach to bring it in a strongbox.

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retired cynic  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:48:16am

Dog’s Roasted Sweet Potato Stand
The only thing sweeter than the potatoes is the canine proprietor of this roadside stall.

Apparently, he is not the only one!

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:56:34am
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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:57:10am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:58:09am

re: #140 Dr. Matt

FFS

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Weird way to ask for Dick picks.

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Jay C  Jan 7, 2020 • 7:58:41am

re: #144 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Texas banksters have invented time travel. If you owe them money, the black magic of 21st century technology allows them to grab it instantly. If they owe you money, it’s suddenly 1890 again and you have to wait for the stagecoach to bring it in a strongbox.

Believe me, that’s a trick that has been mastered well beyond Texas: here in New York, funds banks owe you get transferred down the Erie Canal on a mule-boat…..

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:00:41am

re: #119 The Pie Overlord!

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:05:24am

re: #140 Dr. Matt

FFS

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Sully, grasping for relevance.

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:06:33am

re: #119 The Pie Overlord!

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:08:37am

re: #152 lawhawk

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:11:43am

re: #131 HappyWarrior

Something Nikki knows and cares nothing about because she just wants to kiss Trump’s ass.

…be president.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:15:00am

re: #146 lawhawk

this again is like their global warming thinking

nothing’s going to happen today so no worries, we’re fine and there’s nothing to do

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:17:48am

re: #140 Dr. Matt

FFS

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If Queen Andy is so insecure about his Mr. Wee Wee he just needs to go shopping for a pump…

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:26:26am
“The administration tore up the Iran agreement, placed a significant, severe embargo on Iran, and then killed one of their major generals — nobody in their right mind would actually think that that would lead to negotiations. So when Secretary of State Pompeo’s out there saying, ‘Well, maximum pressure, our goal is to get them back to the negotiating table,’ no naive child would believe that, you would have to be brain-dead to believe that.”

— Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), on CNN.

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:27:12am

I’m just waiting for word that Trumpworld’s business ventures were hit with ransomware attack and it shut down all their hotels and golf businesses. Because that’d be the kind of thing Iran could and would do.

And I figure Trump was too cheap to get proper data security in place. Either that, or Iran finds and releases all of Trump’s business information showing he’s leveraged to the gills to Russia.

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:29:00am

re: #110 Belafon

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* disclaimer: Trump Administration reserves the right to change and contradict any and all stances concerning Iran strategy every 5 minutes after speech.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:29:41am

re: #158 lawhawk

I’m just waiting for word that Trumpworld’s business ventures were hit with ransomware attack and it shut down all their hotels and golf businesses. Because that’d be the kind of thing Iran could and would do.

And I figure Trump was too cheap to get proper data security in place. Either that, or Iran finds and releases all of Trump’s business information showing he’s leveraged to the gills to Russia.

actually they dont even have to do anything

just announce they’re gonna target trumps properties and if you have any sense, you’d avoid them

it’ll hit him in the wallet and other than some tweeting, they dont have to lift an actual finger

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:31:31am

re: #159 Florida Panhandler

* disclaimer: Trump Administration reserves the right to change and contradict any and all stances concerning Iran strategy every 5 minutes after speech.

well the Pentagon initially told lawmakers on Capitol Hill the letter announcing U.S. withdrawal from Iraq was faked before they called it a mistake

if you ask them now “we never said ‘faked’. we totally said ‘mistake’. they sound alike. you misheard”

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:34:27am

re: #160 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

actually they dont even have to do anything

just announce they’re gonna target trumps properties and if you have any sense, you’d avoid them

it’ll hit him in the wallet and other than some tweeting, they dont have to lift an actual finger

Or just hit one property.

If they go in and grab credit card info for everyone who stayed at Mar A Larceny, it would kill business in all Trump properties.

Added benefit: If Iran didn’t claim responsibility, there would be absolutely nothing Trump could do to retaliate. I’m sure Iran is gaming all of this out as I type this.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:36:23am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember all those who see isolation as strength.

Trump is a member of the Pat Buchanan wing of the Republican party: white supremacist, homophobic, misogynist, isolationist, supporter of theocracy (yeah — Trump himself is not a theocrat, but supports those who are), fine with dictators elsewhere committing mayhem against minorities.

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:37:15am

re: #162 makeitstop

The Iranians are going to be very patient in their tactical and strategic response to Trump.

And the patience and silence will be deafening to Trump, who’s expecting a response for every outburst.

All the while, Iran will tweak Trump visibly, as when they noted the funeral crowd size compared to his inauguration.

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makeitstop  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:37:55am

Fuck.

Put them all in prison for life. They killed millions of animals and destroyed entire towns. Assholes.

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mmmirele  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:40:22am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🎃

When Pete Buttigieg was asked recently in Iowa about the $100 billion the Mormon Church has stashed away and if churches should comply with the same laws as other charities, Buttigieg’s response was LOL no.

Caution for coarse language and Felicia bagging on Buttigieg as an empty suit, 14:27, goes to Utah Outcasts.

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I pay more taxes so the churches can have unfathomable slush funds. And it’s not just $100 billion. There’s also something like $32 billion in publicly held stocks and properties for this particular organization. What is irritating is that this church tells even the poor and destitute to pay 10 percent. Even if it’s a choice between feeding your kids and paying tithing, pay tithing. God will bless you with a miracle. Nope, families end up on food stamps or just starve.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:41:09am

re: #119 The Pie Overlord!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:41:48am

re: #165 makeitstop

Fuck.

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Put them all in prison for life. They killed millions of animals and destroyed entire towns. Assholes.

Burn them at the [Outback] Steak[house]

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:46:11am

Is it a bird?
Is it a plane?
No! It’s Capitalist Man!

He has a red, white and blue bow tie.

Oh, yeah, and he’s carrying a see-through acrylic briefcase — to which he is handcuffed — that he says contains $500,000 in hundred-dollar bills.

And he’d like to sell you this piece of art — that briefcase full of a half-million dollars — for a million bucks.

Meet the performance artist who calls himself Capitalist Man. He had been asked to leave the recent Art Basel show in Miami. He was apparently causing too much of a stir that was detracting from the artists who had paid to exhibit their works.

If you don’t know what Art Basel is, let me help. It’s the four-day art extravaganza where someone paid $120,000 for a banana taped to a wall. Then someone ate the banana.

Fools and their money are soon parted.

nypost.com

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:46:23am

re: #165 makeitstop

Fuck.

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Put them all in prison for life. They killed millions of animals and destroyed entire towns. Assholes.

After they spend the rest of the fire season on the front lines. Might as well get some use out of them.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:48:50am

re: #163 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump is a member of the Pat Buchanan wing of the Republican party: white supremacist, homophobic, misogynist, isolationist, supporter of theocracy (yeah — Trump himself is not a theocrat, but supports those who are), fine with dictators elsewhere committing mayhem against minorities.

Sounds like Putin’s MO also

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:49:30am

Had to get the Meatman from Preacher into the conversation today.

Lou Dobbs is really reaching new lows in bootlicking and cowardice.

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retired cynic  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:52:30am

re: #172 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Had to get the Meatman from Preacher into the conversation today.

Lou Dobbs is really reaching new lows in bootlicking and cowardice.

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My god… you wouldn’t think that was possible!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:54:03am

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 8:58:56am

re: #174 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Dogs know Trump’s an asshole… so what then?

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:00:24am

re: #172 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Had to get the Meatman from Preacher into the conversation today.

Lou Dobbs is really reaching new lows in bootlicking and cowardice.

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Someone ask him how he served President Obama.

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lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:02:00am
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:03:07am

re: #176 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Someone ask him how he served President Obama.

A daily banquet of lies, vitriol and shit talking.

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Citizen K  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:03:35am

re: #140 Dr. Matt

FFS

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Following that thread, it’s worth reminding that this same rabbit hole Sully goes down has the exact same basis as the myth that black people don’t feel pain the same way other races do and thus therefore don’t need pain management during medical treatment. Sully even married the two together in his indignant demands for proof, even if he didn’t follow it to near the same obsession as his racial penis “science”.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:07:03am

re: #177 lawhawk

The same people that leave a pill box full of bed bugs in a Walmart changing room?

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:10:50am

China’s Belt-and-Road Initiative is more aspirational than reality (draw Asia-Europe-Africa-and South America into a new China-led economic order) but it may have just gotten a huge boost from Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:12:57am

re: #181 Barefoot Grin

China’s Belt-and-Road Initiative is more aspirational than reality (draw Asia-Europe-Africa-and South America into a new China-led economic order) but it may have just gotten a huge boost from Trump.

If China can demonstrate that it is a fair and reliable partner, then why should it not be a world leader?

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:14:21am

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If China can demonstrate that it is a fair and reliable partner, then why should it not be a world leader?

They’re still working on the fair part.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:17:31am

re: #183 Belafon

They’re still working on the fair part.

Trump has trashed the reliable part for the USA.

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Belafon  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:22:11am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump has trashed the reliable part for the USA.

Yep, but that doesn’t necessarily mean the next nation to step up to the plate is automatically the winnner.

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sagehen  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:23:38am

re: #179 Citizen K

Following that thread, it’s worth reminding that this same rabbit hole Sully goes down has the exact same basis as the myth that black people don’t feel pain the same way other races do and thus therefore don’t need pain management during medical treatment.

which, hey, silver lining… black people have a MUCH lower rate of opioid addiction than white people.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:23:40am
188
Belafon  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:26:50am

re: #187 Dr. Matt

They also want to sue Amazon for the same reasons but don’t think they could take on both at once.

189
Dr. Matt  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:26:51am

re: #179 Citizen K

Following that thread, it’s worth reminding that this same rabbit hole Sully goes down has the exact same basis as the myth that black people don’t feel pain the same way other races do and thus therefore don’t need pain management during medical treatment. Sully even married the two together in his indignant demands for proof, even if he didn’t follow it to near the same obsession as his racial penis “science”.

Speaking of ignorant, racist assholes, what happened to Rage Furby?

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:26:51am

re: #162 makeitstop

Or just hit one property.

If they go in and grab credit card info for everyone who stayed at Mar A Larceny, it would kill business in all Trump properties.

Added benefit: If Iran didn’t claim responsibility, there would be absolutely nothing Trump could do to retaliate. I’m sure Iran is gaming all of this out as I type this.

every non 42%’er in his basement is gaming this out
no matter who did it he couldnt retaliate

191
Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:27:26am

re: #164 lawhawk

The Iranians are going to be very patient in their tactical and strategic response to Trump.

And the patience and silence will be deafening to Trump, who’s expecting a response for every outburst.

All the while, Iran will tweak Trump visibly, as when they noted the funeral crowd size compared to his inauguration.

they’re copying the pelosi gambit

192
makeitstop  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:30:47am

Yeah, that DoD letter to Iraq was a mistake. Sure, Jan.

193
Hecuba's daughter  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:33:00am

re: #171 Eventual Carrion

Sounds like Putin’s MO also

Putin is not an isolationist. His goal is to expand his nation, both geographically and in influence.

194
BigPapa  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:33:42am

re: #187 Dr. Matt

I’ve been a Sonos dealer for a decade. Funny that Google screws them, but they screw dealers without a second thought while blowing smoke about how wonderful it will all be.

195
Citizen K  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:33:49am

re: #189 Dr. Matt

Speaking of ignorant, racist assholes, what happened to Rage Furby?

Probably still smoozing his way into policy dinners with GOP Congressmen somehow.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:34:37am

re: #192 makeitstop

Yeah, that DoD letter to Iraq was a mistake. Sure, Jan.

[Embedded content]

In two languages AND on official letterhead….

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:36:16am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump has trashed the reliable part for the USA.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:36:54am

re: #196 Dr. Matt

In two languages AND on official letterhead….

like i said yesterday, in addition to plastering “DRAFT” all over an unfinished doc, you never, ever print it on ‘the good paper’, let alone actual letterhead

199
lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:38:52am
200
steve_davis  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:41:18am

re: #97 Ming5000

This fella had a bad day. I laughed a few times when I shouldn’t have:

The fox was put down and is being checked for rabies.
Last September Kenney was also attacked by a fox, but that time Kenney was able to stay on his feet and put the fox down himself.

well, now we understand the second fox’s motivation.

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gocart mozart  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:41:44am
202
Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:45:15am

re: #186 sagehen

which, hey, silver lining… black people have a MUCH lower rate of opioid addiction than white people.

There was an NPR piece on that this weekend. Seems that doctors discriminate against black folks in pain - not wanting to prescribe opioids because of the perception that blacks are *more likely to become junkies*.

Yep. Stop for a second. Second part is coming.

Other perception: blacks have a higher pain tolerance, and thus don’t need meds.

OK, at this point I was yelling at the radio & may have swerved a bit.

Result has been that black folks haven’t been drowned by Purdue Pharma et al. in oxy pills for the last 20 years, and thus don’t have as high an instance of opioid addiction.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:45:38am

re: #179 Citizen K

Following that thread, it’s worth reminding that this same rabbit hole Sully goes down has the exact same basis as the myth that black people don’t feel pain the same way other races do and thus therefore don’t need pain management during medical treatment. Sully even married the two together in his indignant demands for proof, even if he didn’t follow it to near the same obsession as his racial penis “science”.

When he still had a blog, I followed Eric Alterman who hated Sully with a passion, due to Sully’s support for Iraq and unwavering attacks on those who didn’t share his outlook. But eventually Sully reconsidered his views and then supported Obama. When Eric discontinued his blog, I started following Sully, who seemed reasonable in those days, but I really had failed to pay sufficient attention to his 1990’s support for Charles Murray and the Bell Curve (a vile, dishonest piece of work) and his misogyny. It does seem as though that, after Obama gave him SSM, he started reverting to his racist Tory heritage and now he has returned to full-blown white supremacism. He is an example of how sanity can be a brief interlude in someone’s history — that the pull of racism can overcome rational thoughts.

204
makeitstop  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:49:59am

re: #197 Barefoot Grin

Incidentally…

Again, we get information about meetings with the president from the guest country and not our own government.

205
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:50:43am

ONLY 6 MONTHS FOR FUCKING FLYNN??????

washingtonpost.com

206
lawhawk  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:50:51am

Prosecutors are now calling for Flynn to get sentenced from 0-6 months per sentencing guidelines because his lack of candor/cooperation and refusal to accept responsibility.

Frankly, far too many of the Trump cronies who took deals got slaps on the wrist comparatively speaking. But it’s still prison, and he deserves it.

Trump too. Trump surrounded himself with criminals and undeclared foreign agents.

207
Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:53:10am

Oh yeah, and black folks will sell the pills rather than take them.

But never fear! Purdue Pharma et al. have noticed that black folks aren’t as addicted to their pain meds as the whites.

Why, that’s a market opportunity!

So the pharmabros are hard at work on marketing campaigns to reach out to black/brown communities, to convince them that taking opioids (that are paid for by Medicare) is a REALLY GOOD IDEA.

Fuck. Those. Guys.

208
BigPapa  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:54:39am

re: #205 Joe Bacon 🌹

I thought he’d get 6 months for cooperating. WTF?

209
Shropshire Slasher  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:55:25am

re: #202 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Who knew hillbilly heroin would become such a scourge?

210
Mike Lamb  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:55:40am

re: #206 lawhawk

Prosecutors are now calling for Flynn to get sentenced from 0-6 months per sentencing guidelines because his lack of candor/cooperation and refusal to accept responsibility.

Frankly, far too many of the Trump cronies who took deals got slaps on the wrist comparatively speaking. But it’s still prison, and he deserves it.

Trump too. Trump surrounded himself with criminals and undeclared foreign agents.

Getting a slap on the wrist after several have shown themselves to dispute the terms of guilt as it relates to their plea agreement is particularly galling, though.

211
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:58:20am

re: #189 Dr. Matt

Speaking of ignorant, racist assholes, what happened to Rage Furby?

Have not missed hearing about him at all.

212
Shropshire Slasher  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:58:52am

re: #199 lawhawk

I’m actually interested in this story and was having a hard time finding information. My question is, who pays the fine? Betsy? Me?

213
Jay C  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:59:30am

re: #192 makeitstop

Yeah, that DoD letter to Iraq was a mistake. Sure, Jan.

[Embedded content]

BTW, do we know that that Arabic translation is, in fact, a copy of the original, delivered at the same time as the original “draft”? (Neither document is signed, I notice). I mean, even in this day and age I don’t think everything should be dismissed as fake unless reliably proven otherwise - but when the Trump clownshow is involved, more than the usual dose of skepticism is warranted.

Also: the Arabic letter has a bunch of extra text in the lower left corner: too much to hope that it says: “ignore this letter”???

214
BigPapa  Jan 7, 2020 • 9:59:57am

Team Trump knew what they were doing was wrong. Then then lied about it (which shows they knew it was wrong). What’s clear in all this is they don’t ever exhibit, any of them, a sense of duty or service to the public in their actions. Everything is driven by deals and schemes to make money. Gordon Gecko public service.

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sagehen  Jan 7, 2020 • 10:03:41am

re: #203 Hecuba’s daughter

When he still had a blog, I followed Eric Alterman who hated Sully with a passion, due to Sully’s support for Iraq and unwavering attacks on those who didn’t share his outlook. But eventually Sully reconsidered his views and then supported Obama. When Eric discontinued his blog, I started following Sully, who seemed reasonable in those days, but I really had failed to pay sufficient attention to his 1990’s support for Charles Murray and the Bell Curve (a vile, dishonest piece of work) and his misogyny. It does seem as though that, after Obama gave him SSM, he started reverting to his racist Tory heritage and now he has returned to full-blown white supremacism. He is an example of how sanity can be a brief interlude in someone’s history — that the pull of racism can overcome rational thoughts.

The main reason Sully became an Obama fan is… being HIV+ used to be grounds to deny entry at the airport. Sully couldn’t visit his family, or go to his college reunion, because he was afraid he wouldn’t be allowed back into the country. Candidate Obama promised to change that rule. The Iraq thing was a tangential reason that he only adopted to keep people from noticing too quickly that his true motive was entirely personal.

216
Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 7, 2020 • 10:04:25am

re: #209 Shropshire Slasher

Who knew hillbilly heroin would become such a scourge?

The yokels are still scarfing it up as fast as they can. Only now, since the crackdown & disruption of heroin supplies, it’s mostly powdered milk mixed with fentanyl. Problem is, you can cut heroin down to 20% and if you’re off in a small batch and it’s up to 40%.

(Quick check to research street-level purity and HOLY SHIT!)

Turns out that purity can range from 11% in Canada, to 44% in England, to 60% in Australia!!!

Guess being close to the supply lines from Afghanistan & the Golden Triangle means the junkies in Sydney get a lot more bang for the buck.

217
Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 7, 2020 • 10:07:14am

… anyway, fentanyl is so fucking powerful, that you have to cut it down to 99% filler, 1% drugs. And it STILL will knock you on your ass.

Make a small mistake, or the powder clumps up a bit, and that 1% can become 3%. Or 5%.

Which means that the strength goes up 300% or 500%. Instant OD.

Get the NarCan syringes ready, oh ye hillbillies, for the batches of fentanyl are headed your way.

218
Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 7, 2020 • 10:10:17am

40 POUNDS seized in Ohio.

Christ on a crutch. Headed across the border to Kentucky, West Virginia, and the rest of the Confederacy.

Slow-motion chemical warfare indeed.

219
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 7, 2020 • 10:10:27am

“Those people are all addicts” is what Trump had to say about them

220
sagehen  Jan 7, 2020 • 10:13:29am

re: #218 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

40 POUNDS seized in Ohio.

Christ on a crutch. Headed across the border to Kentucky, West Virginia, and the rest of the Confederacy.

Slow-motion chemical warfare indeed.

[Embedded content]

If it was enough to kill the entire population of Ohio, Kentucky and West Virginia… maybe we should let it?

Just spit-balling here… as long as it happens before the census, and they lose a bunch of EV’s.

221
Shropshire Slasher  Jan 7, 2020 • 10:13:51am

re: #217 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

It’s freaking brutal. Let’s not even start with the carfentanil.

222
ericblair  Jan 7, 2020 • 10:14:01am

re: #213 Jay C

BTW, do we know that that Arabic translation is, in fact, a copy of the original, delivered at the same time as the original “draft”? (Neither document is signed, I notice). I mean, even in this day and age I don’t think everything should be dismissed as fake unless reliably proven otherwise - but when the Trump clownshow is involved, more than the usual dose of skepticism is warranted.

Also: the Arabic letter has a bunch of extra text in the lower left corner: too much to hope that it says: “ignore this letter”???

I’ve done enough time as an action officer for these kinds of government documents. I’m guessing it’s in Farsi, not Arabic, although I don’t know either language. I’d assume the extra text is the translator’s name and details. It depends from country to country which language(s) the document is delivered in, but in this case the Iranians probably wouldn’t put their translation on a US DoD letterhead. ETA: Obviously, you only do the translation on the finished approved document; otherwise, if you make a change to it you have to send it through again.

Most official documents are delivered electronically, even at high levels, and you won’t be able to do much with an electronic signature between different governments, so it’s either a picture of a signature or just the text of the name as signature. So having a blank signature block in the final document wouldn’t be strange.

Any document of significance gets formally staffed per a checklist, and nobody is going to “accidentally” send out a draft to the fucking recipient before that. Drafts are marked DRAFT all over them to avoid this kind of thing. I have no idea what actually happened here because this kind of confusion would not be possible if there had been any sort of normal process for this.

223
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 7, 2020 • 10:14:27am

I don’t think any other President; indeed, all other Presidents combined; have had so many kooks claiming they were literally anointed and empowered by God.

224
Eventual Carrion  Jan 7, 2020 • 10:21:56am

re: #223 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I don’t think any other President; indeed, all other Presidents combined; have had so many kooks claiming they were literally anointed and empowered by God.

[Embedded content]

Frank Amedia says his POTUS Shield network is a “spiritual weapon” anointed by God to protect President Trump from his evil opponents

But your god can’t seem to find the time to protect children from getting ripped from their parents and put in cages to die cold, scared and without parents. If so, then FUCK your god.

225
danarchy  Jan 7, 2020 • 10:56:31am

re: #205 Joe Bacon 🌹

ONLY 6 MONTHS FOR FUCKING FLYNN??????

washingtonpost.com

The only thing he plead guilty to was lying to a federal officer right. Popodopulous spent just shy of 2 weeks in prison for the same offense. I don’t see Flynn doing much more than that.

226
John_Manyjars  Jan 7, 2020 • 12:40:20pm

re: #60 Dread Pirate

It’s unfortunate that innocent kids will pay for their parents’ stupidity. Darwin being cheated….


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