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1
Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:23:48am

Yikes. Bernie stans have totally swarmed the YouTube comments for this video.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:27:16am

Bob definitely isn’t having a good flight. And he hasn’t even left the ground.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:32:37am

washingtonpost.com

A week before Germany, France and Britain accused Iran of breaching the 2015 nuclear deal, the Trump administration privately threatened to impose a 25 percent tariff on European automobiles if they didn’t, according to U.S. and European officials.

The U.S. effort to coerce European foreign policy through tariffs represents a new level of hardball tactics with America’s oldest allies and could result in the reimposition of sanctions against Iran.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:35:13am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Yikes. Bernie stans have totally swarmed the YouTube comments for this video.

As I said, I haven’t criticized Trump for being divisive and creating a presidency where you can’t disagree with him only to get a left wing version of that. Bernie has a lot of attributes that make me very uncomfortable.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:38:28am
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margotdarby  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:42:00am

This is so true!

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John Hughes  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:43:43am

re: #5 Dread Pirate

And Trump can’t credibly throw Rudy under the bus & say he was lying - Trump told both US diplomats & Ukrainian President Zelensky to talk to Rudy.

Since when has Trump or his supporters cared about credibly?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:47:02am

re: #5 Dread Pirate

Just waiting for Rudy’s disbarment to proceed!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:50:17am

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

updinged, but…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:51:47am

re: #9 Colère Tueur de Lapin

updinged, but…

I imagine NYS will be on that after this all gets sorted out.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:54:50am

re: #7 John Hughes

Since when has Trump or his supporters cared about credibly?

The three groups of American citizens who support Trump:
1. Those whose wealth or livelihood depend on the fossil fuel industry (and that includes miners who are never getting their jobs back)
2. Religious fanatics who want to outlaw abortion and institute other measures favoring theocrats, especially Christian theocrats. Trump personally doesn’t care about these issues but will implement them to retain their support.
3. Racists

They don’t care about ethics or morality or compassion — only Trump implementing policies they favor.

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:57:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 10:59:09am

re: #11 Hecuba’s daughter

The three groups of American citizens who support Trump:
1. Those whose wealth or livelihood depend on the fossil fuel industry (and that includes miners who are never getting their jobs back)
2. Religious fanatics who want to outlaw abortion and institute other measures favoring theocrats, especially Christian theocrats. Trump personally doesn’t care about these issues but will implement them to retain their support.
3. Racists

They don’t care about ethics or morality or compassion — only Trump implementing policies they favor.

I also met some sociopathic fatalists who figure that since our system is going to collapse anyways, Trump is the best man for the job of expediting and speeding up that process so we can just burn everything down and start over again. (I think Susan Sarandon belongs to that ilk)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:00:59am

re: #14 retired cynic

Wow, I was expecting to be a black or Hispanic person.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:02:25am

re: #12 lawhawk

So, if you don’t think Hyde could have actually done to Yovanovich what is being indicated by Parnas, there you go.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:03:35am

re: #14 retired cynic

The DEA seized her father’s life savings at an airport without alleging any crime occurred, lawsuit says, WaPo

Good grief.

“There is no Habeas Corpus for private property”

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:03:36am

Who could have imagined that infinite stupidity was a mathematical probability.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:03:40am

The House voted 228-193 to send impeachment articles over: dailykos.com.

The only Democrat to vote against it was Collin Peterson of Minnesota.

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Citizen K  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:05:34am

re: #18 Dread Pirate

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Who could have imagined that infinite stupidity was a mathematical probability.

I’m surprised he isn’t promising new incandescent bulbs that last longer than LEDs at a penny on the dollar, considering their hard on for them.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:06:58am

re: #20 Citizen K

I’m surprised he isn’t promising new incandescent bulbs that last longer than LEDs at a penny on the dollar, considering their hard on for them.

Trump allows these people to not have to think, to not have to connect a to b. But they’ve been conditioned by Fox and Limbaugh.

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Interesting Times  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:07:16am

o.O

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:08:50am

re: #22 Interesting Times

o.O

I wonder if Trump will schedule an impromptu rally.

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makeitstop  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:09:50am

re: #18 Dread Pirate

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Who could have imagined that infinite stupidity was a mathematical probability.

What did Einstein once say - that the difference between stupidity and the universe was that the universe was finite?

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:09:55am

re: #23 Belafon

I wonder if Trump will schedule an impromptu rally.

He’s having one, right now.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:13:56am
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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:15:07am

This should be good.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:16:58am

re: #11 Hecuba’s daughter

The three groups of American citizens who support Trump:
1. Those whose wealth or livelihood depend on the fossil fuel industry (and that includes miners who are never getting their jobs back)
2. Religious fanatics who want to outlaw abortion and institute other measures favoring theocrats, especially Christian theocrats. Trump personally doesn’t care about these issues but will implement them to retain their support.
3. Racists

They don’t care about ethics or morality or compassion — only Trump implementing policies they favor.

And the Koch brothers sorts who want low taxes and nonexistent regulation so their companies can do whatever they want and aggregate wealth ever faster. They don’t care about any of the other groups except as they can make use of them.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:17:38am

re: #24 makeitstop

There are only two things that are infinite: The universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the universe.

That’s how I remember it.

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makeitstop  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:20:26am

Whoa, some thread here.

Thugs. Common fucking thugs.

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:24:15am

re: #26 Dread Pirate

Once again proving what I said last week. If there was a threat, but no embassy saw heightened security, then Trump was derelict in his obligation to protect our embassies.

But he was worried about embassy attacks?

Yeah, it’s a lie. It was always transparent as a lie.

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plansbandc  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:24:39am

The money hoarders are nuking our democracy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:25:52am

re: #32 plansbandc

The money hoarders are nuking our democracy.

And lying to the masses about economics.

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:28:19am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:28:23am

re: #32 plansbandc

The money hoarders are nuking our democracy.

It is a mental disorder and should be treated as such. And not by a live-and-let-live modality, but with heavy medication.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:29:20am

re: #34 lawhawk

So, how will it play out in the courts? The DOJ has written their memo already, correct?

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plansbandc  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:29:51am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:32:38am

re: #35 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It is a mental disorder and should be treated as such. And not by a live-and-let-live modality, but by heavy medication.

Ben Franklin found the hoarding by the ultra wealthy adherent. The economic right wants to make an America where it is difficult to rise beyond your birth. You can’t preach bootstraps and then cut the leather and give the boots to someone who already has ten pairs of boots. Right wing capitalism is a bastardization of Smith’s vision and the only reason why a good chunk buys it is because right wing politicians told these people that those people benefiting from welfare, more affordable tuition, etc was the USSR. Another fine legacy of Reagan the hypocrite who loved The New Deal until it started helping PoC.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:32:53am

re: #37 plansbandc

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JFC

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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:34:13am

re: #36 Colère Tueur de Lapin

So, how will it play out in the courts? The DOJ has written their memo already, correct?

Lower courts will say it’s good but Roberts will nuke it. The official reason will be limit in the original legislation, real reason will be his personal extreme misogyny.

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Citizen K  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:34:45am

re: #38 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Ben Franklin found the hoarding by the ultra wealthy adherent. The economic right wants to make an America where it is difficult to rise beyond your birth. You can’t preach bootstraps and then cut the leather and give the boots to someone who already has ten pairs of boots. Right wing capitalism is a bastardization of Smith’s vision and the only reason why a good chunk buys it is because right wing politicians told these people that those people benefiting from welfare, more affordable tuition, etc was the USSR. Another fine legacy of Reagan the hypocrite who loved The New Deal until it started helping PoC.

I mean….Smith’s great ‘Invisible Hand’ relied on gov’t guidance to prevent monopolies, rather than discouraged it.

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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:34:49am

re: #38 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m presuming you mean abhorrent?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:35:19am

re: #28 Charmingly Persistent

And the Koch brothers sorts who want low taxes and nonexistent regulation so their companies can do whatever they want and aggregate wealth ever faster. They don’t care about any of the other groups except as they can make use of them.

As far as I’m concerned, Charles Koch wants the inverse of Stalinism where there are no safety nets for the less well off. Pampered rich brat would have done well to actually live under something other than Daddy Fred’s fortune.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:35:27am

re: #42 William Lewis

I’m presuming you mean abhorrent?

Yes

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:37:21am

re: #41 Citizen K

I mean….Smith’s great ‘Invisible Hand’ relied on gov’t guidance to prevent monopolies, rather than discouraged it.

We get people who confuse Ayn Rand with Smith and we get people who confuse Lenin with Marx.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:38:50am

re: #20 Citizen K

I’m surprised he isn’t promising new incandescent bulbs that last longer than LEDs at a penny on the dollar, considering their hard on for them.

TrumpBulbs: pitifully dim, but his voter base insists they’re the brightest thing ever!

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:39:26am
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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:40:44am

re: #45 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We get people who confuse Ayn Rand with Smith and we get people who confuse Lenin with Marx.

Not to mention the differences between what Marx wrote and and Engels edited…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:41:22am

My wife died 21 years today, right around this time of day. She was diabetic and had to have what was considered minor surgery. Something, in fact almost everything, went wrong, and she died. I still think about her every day, and dream about her every night.

The tribute I wrote on her birthday a few years ago.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:42:09am

re: #45 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We get people who confuse Ayn Rand with Smith and we get people who confuse conflate Lenin with Marx.

Just strengthening your point.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:47:38am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:50:24am

re: #38 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Ben Franklin found the hoarding by the ultra wealthy adherent. The economic right wants to make an America where it is difficult to rise beyond your birth. You can’t preach bootstraps and then cut the leather and give the boots to someone who already has ten pairs of boots. Right wing capitalism is a bastardization of Smith’s vision and the only reason why a good chunk buys it is because right wing politicians told these people that those people benefiting from welfare, more affordable tuition, etc was the USSR. Another fine legacy of Reagan the hypocrite who loved The New Deal until it started helping PoC.

This. Exactly. It is the reason I hate these people with the fire of a million suns. If they had prevailed earlier in the 20th century, I would never have gone to Cornell or even escaped from the dusty trailer park where I grew up. They have spent the last 50 years working and plotting, and sometimes killing, to deny the same opportunity to others. They have largely succeeded, as the massive debt and poverty of the millennial generation shows. They want to keep it that way, as the loathesome Betsy DeVos, “Princess Amway,” has shown since Trump gave her the mandate to finish the destruction of democratic education once and for all.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:51:02am

re: #48 William Lewis

Not to mention the differences between what Marx wrote and and Engels edited…

Yeah I was reading Dubcek of the Prague Spring’s autobiography recently. Dubcek talked a lot about discovering that the Marx of reality was totally different than the one that the Soviets linked with Lenin and the anti-communist far right did the same thing. Marxism was never supposed to happened in Romanov Russia or Chiang’s China. The big lie that the economic ideologues tell us IMO is that we have to have a rigid economic system. I’m not an economist and I would even say economics is something I’m not particularly well versed in but I believe that economic policy should be a spectrum and not an ideology. Another thing is we had autocracy long after Capitalism was developed and we had democracy before it was developed. Democracy matters here. If we don’t get a say in how our society works, we’re damned.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:53:28am

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This. Exactly. It is the reason I hate these people with the fire of a million suns. If they had prevailed earlier in the 20th century, I would never have gone to Cornell or even escaped from the dusty trailer park where I grew up. They have spent the last 50 years working and plotting, and sometimes killing, to deny the same opportunity to others. They have largely succeeded, as the massive debt and poverty of the millennial generation shows. They want to keep it that way, as the loathesome Betsy DeVos, “Princess Amway,” has shown since Trump gave her the mandate to finish the destruction of democratic education once and for all.

Without the GI Bill to pay for my late grandfather’s trade school, he gets stuck in the mines and I’m probably on my way to becoming a fourth generation coal miner. We don’t ask for “free stuff”, man I can’t tell y’all how much I hate that phrase but we do want a floor that our parents and grandparents had. But I guess it’s easy just to look down on people when you’ve had everything handed to you like DeVos and Trump did.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:56:24am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:56:43am

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My wife died 21 years today, right around this time of day. She was diabetic and had to have what was considered minor surgery. Something, in fact almost everything, went wrong, and she died. I still think about her every day, and dream about her every night.

The tribute I wrote on her birthday a few years ago.

thanks for sharing.

you were lucky to have each other, if only for a brief period of time.

MAY HER MEMORY BY A BLESSING.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:58:34am

re: #55 Dread Pirate

That’s because the current GOP, and Trump specifically, doesn’t want to cooperate with the world, they want to bend it to do their will.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:58:38am
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sagehen  Jan 15, 2020 • 11:59:47am

re: #45 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We get people who confuse Ayn Rand with Smith and we get people who confuse Lenin with Marx.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:00:03pm

re: #45 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We get people who confuse Ayn Rand with Smith and we get people who confuse Lenin with Marx.

And I will never forgive the Zeppo purge!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:01:05pm

re: #58 DodgerFan1988

In a sane world, the credibility would have been gone as soon as his ACORN scam got exposed. And he’s never apologized for being a sick creep to that CNN reporter he did that creepy shit with the dildo with. O’Keefe is a disturbed man who gets enabled by Sugar Mommies and Daddies to fund his projects because O’Keefe would be broke if he actually had to make it honestly.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:02:08pm

re: #53 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Marx never would’ve imagine his ideas in Russia, or China. Marx was looking at (at the time) highly industrialized societies like England or Germany, societies that had a plentiful proletariat that was on the cusp of class consciousness.

Russia had emerged from feudalism not long before Marx was writing down his ideas and China was, at that time, a mess.

Lenin reckoned he could leapfrog history. He was wrong.

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sagehen  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:04:32pm

re: #54 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Without the GI Bill to pay for my late grandfather’s trade school, he gets stuck in the mines and I’m probably on my way to becoming a fourth generation coal miner. We don’t ask for “free stuff”, man I can’t tell y’all how much I hate that phrase but we do want a floor that our parents and grandparents had. But I guess it’s easy just to look down on people when you’ve had everything handed to you like DeVos and Trump did.

My dad grew up with cardboard in his shoes, and dinner was 4 times a week.

I grew up with a swimming pool, a horse, piano lessons, summer camp and ski trips.

Free college for my dad’s generation is the entire “how’d they do that?”

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makeitstop  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:06:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:08:07pm
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Belafon  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:08:57pm

h/t balloon-juice.com

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:09:32pm

re: #64 makeitstop

Hyde will tell them to get bent, of course.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:09:34pm

re: #63 sagehen

My dad grew up with cardboard in his shoes, and dinner was 4 times a week.

I grew up with a swimming pool, a horse, piano lessons, summer camp and ski trips.

Free college for my dad’s generation is the entire “how’d they do that?”

And you know the thing is, there was a consensus on this sort of thing. Nixon was proposing UBI. Eisenhower thought 90% taxes on the very wealthy was sound. But oh my god propose something like that all Americans should have access to health care or higher education and you get looked at like you proposed changing the National Anthem to The Internationale.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:09:54pm

re: #19 Belafon

The House voted 228-193 to send impeachment articles over: dailykos.com.

The only Democrat to vote against it was Collin Peterson of Minnesota.

His district must be very red, unless he’s thinking that with all the evidence coming to light it would be wise to hold the articles a bit longer.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:10:35pm

re: #66 Belafon

“Her time will come” doesn’t fill me with a sense of peace.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:12:42pm

re: #67 Romantic Heretic

Hyde will tell them to get bent, of course.

If Hyde can help sink the GOP, I’m all for it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:13:20pm

re: #62 Dr Lizardo

Marx never would’ve imagine his ideas in Russia, or China. Marx was looking at (at the time) highly industrialized societies like England or Germany, societies that had a plentiful proletariat that was on the cusp of class consciousness.

Russia had emerged from feudalism not long before Marx was writing down his ideas and China was, at that time, a mess.

Lenin reckoned he could leapfrog history. He was wrong.

It’s why if you look at Marx’s work, he was writing on the condition of the working class in England and Germany. I don’t agree with all his findings. One of my big problems with how Marxist ideology has been interpreted is it often ignores culture at the expense of class but as I said Marx wasn’t Lenin just as Smith wasn’t Rand. In fact, I think both would probably find some common ground because they were seeing systems that exploited people for the benefit of a select few and kept the already wealthy, wealthy and the poor poor unless they lucked out somehow. The worst thing we’ve convinced ourselves economically is a human’s worth is in how much $$$ he is worth.And the biggest drivers of this in 21st century America are spoiled brats who get funded by multimillion or even billionaires to spread the gospel of an economic system that never existed in anyone living’s America.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:17:35pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:18:37pm

re: #73 Dread Pirate

Don’t ever want to hear about how every Democrat who praises diplomacy in foreign relations is Neville Chamberlain ever again with this shit. Trump has definitely coddled these two dictators especially Putin by giving Putin credibility.

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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:24:32pm

re: #69 NO SMOCKING GUN!

His district must be very red, unless he’s thinking that with all the evidence coming to light it would be wise to hold the articles a bit longer.

Near as I can see with a quick look, he’s very blue dog and it’s a conservative district - he’s part of the “pro-life” assholes who asked SCOTUS to toss RvW.

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Alephnaught  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:26:14pm

I must admit, I’m really liking Tame Impala’s new tune “It Might Be Time”.

(Wait till the drums properly kick in… Also, there’s a bit of a Supertramp influence…)

Tame Impala - It Might Be Time (Official Audio)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:26:54pm

re: #75 William Lewis

Near as I can see with a quick look, he’s very blue dog and it’s a conservative district - he’s part of the “pro-life” assholes who asked SCOTUS to toss RvW.

I remember seeing his name a lot in the Blue Dog-Obama struggles. And I guess that’s the thing that gets me when I hear about how Obama moved the Dems to the right. The Blue Dogs aren’t a big factor in the caucus anymore. Yes moderates are but a moderate Democrat in 2020 is different than a moderate Democrat in 2010.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:28:58pm

re: #75 William Lewis

Near as I can see with a quick look, he’s very blue dog and it’s a conservative district - he’s part of the “pro-life” assholes who asked SCOTUS to toss RvW.

BTW I keep on thinking about your one line about how capitalism being content under Hitler, happy with Franco, etc when I see people acting like capitalism is the only thing you need for democracy. I very much like consumer capitalism personally. I like having choices but I also like that there are some things that aren’t privatized. Privatized prisons scare the shit out of me because criminal justice shouldn’t be for sale and I think as a person who had an IEP that private schools greatly ignore children with learning disabilities and who don’t fit in with the private school’s culture.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:32:40pm

Alright guys. I’m all economics out. Gonna finish this Ben Franklin bio and listen to some tunes and contemplate my next read. I’m thinking Korean War because I want to better understand a little of what my grandpa experienced and how we got to that point. Easy to forget that the Koreas were not a household name to most Americans until 1950.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:33:21pm

Here we go again.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:34:09pm

re: #47 jaunte

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Unfortunately, that weakness is the Electoral College.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:34:46pm

re: #80 Dave In Austin

Here we go again.

Call her a bot and move on.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:35:29pm

Cause BernieBro has nothing to do with weaponizing a personality. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:35:31pm

re: #6 margotdarby

Five comments in a little over eight years, with a -59 karma, and this is what you come here to post today and then log out?

and no, I’m not going to click on your website link to see who you are.

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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:35:36pm
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makeitstop  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:36:15pm

re: #67 Romantic Heretic

Hyde will tell them to get bent, of course.

Yeah, you called it…

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:36:39pm

re: #59 sagehen

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One of the best albums!

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Mike Lamb  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:37:56pm

re: #80 Dave In Austin

Here we go again.

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That person sure is progressive!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:39:22pm

re: #86 makeitstop

Yeah, you called it…

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Let them fight…

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Semper Fi  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:41:04pm

re: #80 Dave In Austin

Here we go again.

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My dear, with everything that will be waiting for a Democrat American President, thanks to Trump, a weapon might come in handy.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:41:47pm

re: #78 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think as a person who had an IEP that private schools greatly ignore children with learning disabilities and who don’t fit in with the private school’s culture.

Sometimes the private school suggests to the parents that a different school would be better for them. I guess that looks better than kicking them out.
When kids who need an IEP go to a public school, they are guaranteed a free and appropriate public education - which is exactly as it should be - but, at least here in CA, the principal is not given any budget increase for it. He or she has to take the required money from somewhere else in the school’s budget. Among other things, it leads to resentment from some other parents when other programs or classes get cut to cover the new expense.
I hate that the state does not help with this. To me, it kind of makes a joke of the guarantee of a FAPE. I would love to see this get addressed properly, but I guess I shouldn’t hold my breath.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:42:15pm

re: #35 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It is a mental disorder and should be treated as such. And not by a live-and-let-live modality, but with heavy medication.

and reasonable tax rates

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Mike Lamb  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:42:53pm

re: #90 Semper Fi

My dear, with everything that will be waiting for a Democrat American President, thanks to Trump, a weapon might come in handy.

I’d like to know what she defines as “weaponizing” Warren’s identity and in what sense the purported “weaponizing” somehow detracts or otherwise invalidates her policy proposals.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:42:54pm

re: #37 plansbandc

When presented with a photo showing one of WH staffer Rob Porter’s ex-wives with a black eye she said Porter gave her, the president suggested maybe she ran into a fridge to hurt herself to try to get money from him

Based on personal experience, no doubt…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:44:28pm

re: #49 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

{{shiplord}}

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:45:52pm

re: #45 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We get people who confuse Ayn Rand with Smith and we get people who confuse Lenin with Marx.

The part of Adam Smith that they overlook is when he states that markets are supposed to function for all participants: producers and consumers, employers and employees, landlords and tenants, etc.

He never mentioned anything about laissez-faire. He was opposed to government-licensed monopolies on trade, like the British East India Company.

The modern equivalent of that is a no-bid, cost-plus government contract.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:48:41pm

re: #38 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Ben Franklin found the hoarding by the ultra wealthy adherent. The economic right wants to make an America where it is difficult to rise beyond your birth.

and when we got a President who came from no sort of privileged background and got where he did through hard work, he was immediately derided as a Kenyan usurper, an affirmative-action coddled case or the Devil Incarnate.

It shows how seriously the modern Right takes the “American Dream” that anyone, regardless of race, color, religion or background, can rise to the level of their abilities and efforts.

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aatharuv  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:50:28pm

re: #80 Dave In Austin

I don’t give a *bleep* about weaponizing her identity, not that Senator Warren is doing that. If she’s the nominee, I’ll proudly vote for her. Or the tweeter’s favorite candidate, Bernie. Or whoever the Democratic nominee is.

What everyone needs to remember is The perfect is the enemy of the good.

Though, the Senator (and everyone else running) is at the very least good and a lot closer to perfect than the person who will win if she and people thinking like her don’t vote.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:54:03pm

re: #98 aatharuv

What everyone needs to remember is The perfect is the enemy of the good.

If they can convince enough people not to vote if their personal choice of Democratic candidate is not nominated, then that is a plus for the GOP

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:55:27pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

Five comments in a little over eight years, with a -59 karma, and this is what you come here to post today and then log out?

and no, I’m not going to click on your website link to see who you are.

It is a weird page for a fish hatchery. It is a single text page with a picture of a girl and a strange story.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:56:53pm

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 12:57:16pm

re: #98 aatharuv

I don’t give a *bleep* about weaponizing her identity, not that Senator Warren is doing that. If she’s the nominee, I’ll proudly vote for her. Or the tweeter’s favorite candidate, Bernie. Or whoever the Democratic nominee is.

What everyone needs to remember is The perfect is the enemy of the good.

Though, the Senator (and everyone else running) is at the very least good and a lot closer to perfect than the person who will win if she and people thinking like her don’t vote.

One wonders how much of this is rodent-copulation by Republicans, and rodent-copulation by others.

Any ol’ body can put a rose emoji in their name and claim they are some sort of socialist. That doesn’t make her one.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:00:18pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:00:52pm

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🎃

It is a weird page for a fish hatchery. It is a single text page with a picture of a girl and a strange story.

life is full of random weirdness

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:00:59pm

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹🎃

She also joined in May 2019.

That isn’t conclusive evidence of rodent-copulation, since people join or leave Twitter all the time. But jumping in and immediately bashing everyone but Sanders looks suspicious. Most of Sen. Sanders’s supporters have been on social media for a while.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:01:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:02:18pm

Breaking local news: The company my village contracts to maintain our reverse osmosis units for our water just left my house. My r/o unit is repaired. Yay.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:03:47pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Breaking local news: The company my village contracts to maintain our reverse osmosis units for our water just left my house. My r/o unit is repaired. Yay.

reverse Osmosis is when Donnie switches back to Marie?

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Dave In Austin  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:05:30pm

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

reverse Osmosis is when Donnie switches back to Marie?

My Dad lives through you……… Hi Dad! Everything’s good here!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:06:01pm

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

reverse Osmosis is when Donnie switches back to Marie?

LOL.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:07:39pm

re: #109 Dave In Austin

My Dad lives through you……… Hi Dad! Everything’s good here!

I sometimes wake up uttering bad puns in my sleep, now I know where they come from…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:07:49pm

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

reverse Osmosis is when Donnie switches back to Marie?

Brings back terrors of that AWFUL PRE-RAZZIE Donny & Marie movie Goin’ Coconuts. I was trapped in a theater with a nightmare date and I swore I was watching an LSD flashback on the screen!

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lawhawk  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:09:06pm

So, we’re back to caravans because reasons?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:12:53pm

re: #112 Joe Bacon 🌹

Brings back terrors of that AWFUL PRE-RAZZIE Donny & Marie movie Goin’ Coconuts. I was trapped in a theater with a nightmare date and I swore I was watching an LSD flashback on the screen!

This Donnie and Marie cover of Steely Dan almost made me head into rehab:

bitchute.com

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:13:06pm
A week after a 6.4 magnitude earthquake hit Puerto Rico on January 7, the federal Department of Housing and Urban Development has decided it will finally release $8.2 billion in aid that Congress appropriated to help the island rebuild after Hurricane Maria in 2017. HUD officials readily admitted to Congress in October that they’d blown right past a September deadline to release the aid, because the department was worried about “corruption” in the territory’s government. Since then, the department hasn’t said anything at all about the continuing delays.

(more)

Puerto Rico Finally Getting Its Damn Disaster Aid (Wonkette)

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aatharuv  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:13:08pm

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Agreed, and the same goes in the other direction. Convincing disaffected Trump voters to stay at home, just not vote for Trump, or vote for a Third party candidate is a plus for Democrats, even if its only half as useful as convincing them to vote for the Democratic nominee instead.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:15:47pm

re: #116 aatharuv

Agreed, and the same goes in the other direction. Convincing disaffected Trump voters to stay at home, just not vote for Trump, or vote for a Third party candidate is a plus for Democrats, even if its only half as useful as convincing them to vote for the Democratic nominee instead.

I can only hope that the devotion and ardor they showed for him in 2016 has begun to dampen a bit, perhaps among the Christians who lean towards the New Testament over the Old…

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Dave In Austin  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:15:55pm

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No Static at all……..

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:18:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:19:33pm

re: #116 aatharuv

Agreed, and the same goes in the other direction. Convincing disaffected Trump voters to stay at home, just not vote for Trump, or vote for a Third party candidate is a plus for Democrats, even if its only half as useful as convincing them to vote for the Democratic nominee instead.

I was still on my village board in the 2016 election. As such, I did not see it as appropriate to discourage people from voting, though it was obvious I’d first supported Sanders in the caucus, then Clinton in the general election (something about my yard signs I guess).

That didn’t deter my wife though, who talked to every person in town about what a horrible person Trump was and promoted Gary Johnson as an alternative to voting for Trump.

That might explain the large Libertarian turnout in my town in the last election (though not nearly enough to prevent Trump from taking my precinct by an overwhelming margin).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:21:03pm

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That might explain the large Libertarian turnout in my town in the last election (though not nearly enough to prevent Trump from taking my precinct by an overwhelming margin).

Nebraska.

I am registered in Arizona, which might go blue some day, but for now, my Presidential vote is going to get pissed away.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:21:47pm

re: #64 makeitstop

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Again, the hidden parts in sight (rather than the silent parts out loud)

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:22:30pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:23:11pm

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nebraska.

I am registered in Arizona, which might go blue some day, but for now, my Presidential vote is going to get pissed away.

But you can vote in other Federal-level elections, right? Your votes, plural, for the two Senate seats WILL make a difference!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:24:12pm

re: #66 Belafon

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h/t balloon-juice.com

Slava says:

It’s a crazy exchange, providing the circumstances and the characters involved, but I can’t imagine any Russian who would read this word and think murder or kidnapping.

but earlier Slava says:

Not only does he omit all punctuation and use the completely wrong form of the pronoun “me,” he can’t even spell Lutsenko’s first or last name properly.
This is the Russian of someone who really hasn’t used it in a long time and who was never well educated to begin with.

my emphasis in both comments contradict each other

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:24:21pm

re: #124 i(m)p(each)sos

But you can vote in other Federal-level elections, right? Your votes, plural, for the two Senate seats WILL make a difference!

Of course, but the EC in AZ is gonna go GOP for some time to come…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:25:07pm

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nebraska.

I am registered in Arizona, which might go blue some day, but for now, my Presidential vote is going to get pissed away.

I hear that.

The NDP is building on their successful push in 2018 to elect more Democrats at the local and state level. That resulted in the most women ever elected in the state, flipping a whole bunch of city, school board, and state legislature seats.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:26:56pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I hear that.

The NDP is building on their successful push in 2018 to elect more Democrats at the local and state level. That resulted in the most women ever elected in the state, flipping a whole bunch of city, school board, and state legislature seats.

AZ used to be pretty Democratic (Mo Udall, Bruce Babbit, etc.,) until about the 80’s when it went Deep Red.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:27:15pm

re: #81 Mike Lamb

Unfortunately, that weakness is the Electoral College.

I saw there was a modest proposal to fix that by reducing D. C. to a few federal buildings, create 127 new states out of Washington neighborhoods, then passing a slew of constitutional amendments to give every American equal representation in Congress and abolishing the Electoral College. Not going to happen, but completely constitutional.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:28:00pm

re: #80 Dave In Austin

Here we go again.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:28:54pm

re: #51 jaunte

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They need a little time to write up a fresh set of lies.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:29:29pm

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🎃

The 2018 election caused a weird anomaly in my town.

When our two-room school closed in 2005, the town divided itself up between two different school districts, in Dalton (in the next county south) or Bridgeport (my county seat). My house is in the Dalton school district.

Dalton (pop 300) flipped its school board from Republican to Democratic control, whereas Bridgeport remained under GOP control.

So about half my town has a Democratic school board and the other half a GOP one.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:31:02pm

re: #91 Jebediah, RBG

Sometimes the private school suggests to the parents that a different school would be better for them. I guess that looks better than kicking them out.
When kids who need an IEP go to a public school, they are guaranteed a free and appropriate public education - which is exactly as it should be - but, at least here in CA, the principal is not given any budget increase for it. He or she has to take the required money from somewhere else in the school’s budget. Among other things, it leads to resentment from some other parents when other programs or classes get cut to cover the new expense.
I hate that the state does not help with this. To me, it kind of makes a joke of the guarantee of a FAPE. I would love to see this get addressed properly, but I guess I shouldn’t hold my breath.

Reminds me of an old quote I recently saw again. The world will be a better place when schools get all the money they need, and the Pentagon has to hold bake sales to buy new battleships.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:34:53pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:35:39pm

c-span.org

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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:37:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:42:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:42:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:44:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:45:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:45:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:47:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:48:09pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:49:35pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:51:07pm

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If they can convince enough people not to vote if their personal choice of Democratic candidate is not nominated, then that is a plus for the GOP

It’s about Trump’s only hope for reelection.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:51:44pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:53:10pm

re: #113 lawhawk

So, we’re back to caravans because reasons?

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Gives Fox News something to cover other than impeachment.

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jaunte  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:53:31pm

Hundreds of victims.

“…Epstein, who was found dead in a Manhattan jail cell last year, allegedly brought girls as young as 11 to his private island, known as Little St. James, and maintained a database to track their availability and movements, the lawsuit said.”

There are likely dozens of Epstein associates involved with this.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:55:29pm

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nebraska.

I am registered in Arizona, which might go blue some day, but for now, my Presidential vote is going to get pissed away.

I think there is a real chance of Trump losing Az.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:57:22pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:58:35pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I am Never John Delaney.

Fight me.

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Weaselone  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:59:18pm

I’d still vote Tulsi over Trump.

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uriel  Jan 15, 2020 • 1:59:27pm

re: #136 gocart mozart

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Oh, my god- For some reason, my mind glanced past the avatar and saw Micheal Tracy’s idiotic cartoon thing. I literally read the post three times going, “this seems weirdly reasonable for a Tracy post- where’s the catch? Surely the end of all sanity hasn’t finally taken us all?”

Whew! That was scary!

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:00:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:00:15pm

YIKES!!!!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:00:28pm

re: #152 Weaselone

I’d still vote Tulsi over Trump.

Thank dog we won’t have to make that choice.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:01:50pm

re: #154 Dread Pirate

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i dont have to. you just did.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:03:09pm

oh, yes, ^^THIS^^

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:03:34pm

“But it’s immigrants who brings violence to our communities!”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:03:37pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:03:44pm

re: #148 jaunte

Virgin Islands allege Jeffrey Epstein trafficked girls as young as 11 as recently as 2018

Prince Andrew was unavailable for comment…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:03:48pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:05:26pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

YIKES!!!!

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And you know what given that he was very loyal to Trump, I can totally see Trump and his inner circle embracing him even tho I bet the Connecticut GOP wanted little to do with him as a candidate. Fine with taking his money but that nut isn’t winning a lean Dem seat in Connecticut but Trump and his cronies probably loved his devotion.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:08:11pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

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You know, he doesn’t even know what these judges mean. I think he really believes that he’s singlehandedly “fixed” the judiciary because he’s gullible enough to actually buy McConnell blaming the vacancies he caused on Obama.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:08:42pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:09:59pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oh, yes, ^^THIS^^

Precedent is a motherfucker. If Mitch whines, play ads of him supporting this in 1999.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:10:10pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

Slava says:

but earlier Slava says:

my emphasis in both comments contradict each other

Yeah, that kind of stood out

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retired cynic  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:11:42pm

re: #166 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Precedent is a motherfucker. If Mitch whines, play ads of him supporting this in 1999.

He won’t care. He has no shame.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:12:31pm

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

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Sheesh. But hey public schools and exposure to women make boys act this way. Between this, Covington, & Kavanaugh’s Georgetown Prep, not exactly ringing endorsements of what all boys Catholic high schools teach in how to respect women.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:12:36pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oh, yes, ^^THIS^^

an impeached president should still be able to govern during the process (indicted not convicted)
clinton effectively did.
trump could have if he ever did any work.

one possibility about impeachment is removal from office.
and no one actually knows that it wont happen - not with certainty given what could come out.

when one of the charges is abuse of power of the office there are some things a president in that compromised position should not do / be allowed to do

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:13:54pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

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everything is ‘records’ with him

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:14:17pm

re: #133 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Reminds me of an old quote I recently saw again. The world will be a better place when schools get all the money they need, and the Pentagon has to hold bake sales to buy new battleships.

An old quote, to be sure, but it never stopped being true!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:14:35pm

re: #168 retired cynic

He won’t care. He has no shame.

I’m sure but enough of his colleagues who fear re-election or losing the majority might. McConnell needs to become toxic to the voters for his total lack of interest in being anything but a Trump enabler.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:18:09pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:18:34pm

re: #171 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

everything is ‘records’ with him

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He’s the king of hyperbole. Ironically for someone whose movement claims they like the “ok” sign, never us anything just okay Trump, it’s always the greatest/best or worst/terrible, kinda like how Soleimani was the world’s worst terrorist. There’s no room for nuance with him. His communication is awful.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:21:24pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

It’d be funny if she trolled him and signed them with these (yes they are on the official Trump site):

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Mike Lamb  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:22:26pm

re: #154 Dread Pirate

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I have to admit that I don’t fully track the math.

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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:22:35pm

I did not know this. Oldest public library is in Salisbury. Salisbury is the last town in northwest CT, it borders NY and MASS

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:24:55pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

It’d be funny if she trolled him and signed them with these (yes they are on the official Trump site):

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I’m waiting for my Trump commerative barf bag that I paid 20 bucks plus 10 for shipping and handling. This really is just about profiting off the presidency for him. Even if his claim he doesn’t take a salary is true which I doubt, he’s made so much money off the presidency already. I can already see him trying to sell himself as a President in exile if he’s defeated.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:25:09pm

re: #136 gocart mozart

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If he has the most grass roots supporters, why couldn’t he win the primary last time? Oh right, it was “rigged by the DNC” with their diabolical scheme that the candidate with the most votes, wins…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:25:58pm

re: #178 gocart mozart

I did not know this. Oldest public library is in Salisbury. Salisbury is the last town in northwest CT, it borders NY and MASS

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See this is how Congresspeople act. Not shooting a Halloween mask. Hayes is who Hyde is running against fyi.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:28:45pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

It’d be funny if she trolled him and signed them with these (yes they are on the official Trump site):

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pens
this is on par with billy beer

but obama wrote a book and did a series on netflix after he was no longer president

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Mike Lamb  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:28:51pm

re: #177 Mike Lamb

I have to admit that I don’t fully track the math.

And I should clarify—I understand that there is a net loss even after this super fantastic deal—I don’t get how he arrived at the loss number.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:32:25pm

re: #183 Mike Lamb

And I should clarify—I understand that there is a net loss even after this super fantastic deal—I don’t get how he arrived at the loss number.

Agreed. Seems to me it should be a $29B gain against a $39B loss for a net loss of $10B.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:34:51pm

re: #178 gocart mozart

I did not know this. Oldest public library is in Salisbury. Salisbury is the last town in northwest CT, it borders NY and MASS

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Peterborough, NH claims to have the oldest taxpayer-funded (1833) public library in the world.

peterboroughtownlibrary.org

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:35:04pm
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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:35:12pm

re: #177 Mike Lamb

I have to admit that I don’t fully track the math.

he left the last line out - ‘you do the math’

29b in new promises to buy

less 11b losses + 28b in subsidies = 39b

29-39b is a net loss of 10b

we ‘paid’ 39 billion dollars in subsidies, lost sales and other losses to get a 29 billion dollar promise of new future sales

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:35:52pm

re: #179 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m waiting for my Trump commerative barf bag that I paid 20 bucks plus 10 for shipping and handling. This really is just about profiting off the presidency for him. Even if his claim he doesn’t take a salary is true which I doubt, he’s made so much money off the presidency already. I can already see him trying to sell himself as a President in exile if he’s defeated.

its cheap and crass

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:37:35pm

Mre: #188 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

its cheap and crass

In short it’s Trump.

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:38:21pm

sometimes i despise living in florida

Seven Republican lawmakers in Florida filed anti-LGBTQ bills late Monday, just hours before the deadline to file new bills for the coming legislative session,” NBC News reports.

“If passed, the bills would ban gender-affirming health care for transgender children, repeal municipal and county ordinances protecting LGBTQ workers, and legalize so-called gay conversion therapy in places that had banned the medically debunked practice.”

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:40:38pm

re: #187 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

he left the last line out - ‘you do the math’

29b in new promises to buy

less 11b losses + 28b in subsidies = 39b

29-39b is a net loss of 10b

we ‘paid’ 39 billion dollars in subsidies, lost sales and other losses to get a 29 billion dollar promise of new future sales

Milo Minderbinder-style.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:40:50pm

re: #190 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

sometimes i despise living in florida

Remember when Senator Dick Joke claimed he wanted to return to the Senate to protect LGBT rights. Somehow I don’t think he’s objecting to this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:41:20pm

re: #190 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

sometimes i despise living in florida

“Hey guys, I got an idea! Let’s be cruel assholes just for the hell of it!”

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:41:25pm

Anyone else watching the Senate coverage right now?

I kinda get the impression Mitch isn’t enjoying this part of his job right now. His usual “fuck you, I’m gonna bull through whatever I want to do” arrogance seems to be missing.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:41:33pm

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

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Quite a movement he’s inspired.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:44:40pm

re: #185 Barefoot Grin

Peterborough, NH claims to have the oldest taxpayer-funded (1833) public library in the world.

peterboroughtownlibrary.org

Library Wars!!1!! Open books at 30 paces…

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:46:29pm

re: #194 i(m)p(each)sos

Anyone else watching the Senate coverage right now?

I kinda get the impression Mitch isn’t enjoying this part of his job right now. His usual “fuck you, I’m gonna bull through whatever I want to do” arrogance seems to be missing.

he can do what he wants in the senate.
the house wont let him
and theyre shining a light on him as they fight back

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Mike Lamb  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:48:00pm

re: #187 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

he left the last line out - ‘you do the math’

29b in new promises to buy

less 11b losses + 28b in subsidies = 39b

29-39b is a net loss of 10b

we ‘paid’ 39 billion dollars in subsidies, lost sales and other losses to get a 29 billion dollar promise of new future sales

Ok, that’s what I was coming up with.

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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:48:49pm

Hey, LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior), these two are for you…

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:49:49pm

re: #198 Mike Lamb

Ok, that’s what I was coming up with.

i originally read it wrong - as a 39b loss
that’s why i wrote “you already did the math’

then i realized he did what teachers do:
‘the solution is left to you as an exercise’

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:51:39pm

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:53:53pm

it was a big pot of boston baked beans
and two loaves of brown bread

so tonight’s a delicious repeat

im out

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Mike Lamb  Jan 15, 2020 • 2:57:58pm

re: #200 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

i originally read it wrong - as a 39b loss
that’s why i wrote “you already did the math’

then i realized he did what teachers do:
‘the solution is left to you as an exercise’

Yes, that was the confusing part for me as well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:00:23pm

re: #203 Mike Lamb

Yes, that was the confusing part for me as well.

no one said there would be math tonight…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:03:00pm
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John Hughes  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:05:17pm

re: #77 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yes moderates are but a moderate Democrat in 2020 is different than a moderate Democrat in 2010.

Moderate: Somebody with stupid ideas I agree with.

Extremist: Somebody with stupid ideas I disagree with.

Or, if you’re an extremist like me:

Moderate: someone who’s ok with killing millions of people.

Extremist: Somebody who thinks megadeath might be a bad idea.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:06:26pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:06:52pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

“second amendment sanctuaries” for fuck sake these people are lunatics

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:07:59pm

re: #208 Jebediah, RBG

“second amendment sanctuaries” for fuck sake these people are lunatics

my county did just that in time for Christmas.

sigh

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:08:54pm

re: #208 Jebediah, RBG

“second amendment sanctuaries” for fuck sake these people are lunatics

I mean it’s kind of a waste of money and space, but if they want to provide sanctuary for all the copies of the Second Amendment they can, I’m fine with it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:09:21pm

re: #208 Jebediah, RBG

“second amendment sanctuaries” for fuck sake these people are lunatics

my idiot congresscritter:

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:12:06pm

re: #210 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I mean it’s kind of a waste of money and space, but if they want to provide sanctuary for all the copies of the Second Amendment they can, I’m fine with it.

Ha ha yes I would be ok with that!

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Citizen K  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:12:41pm

Won’t someone think of the poor beleaguered, discriminated guns! What about their feelings?!

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:12:42pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

Massie is yours? You are one lucky duck ////

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:12:46pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

my county did just that in time for Christmas.

sigh

It’s gonna be fucking awesome when one of these sheriffs cites such a local ordinance to refuse to comply with a court order pursuant to a state red flag law, and the subject in question goes on to become an active shooter.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:12:56pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

And all the “a bunch of those firearms deaths are suicides” apologists are in that thread, because suicide doesn’t count.

Oh wait, conservatives aren’t “pro-life,” that’s just branding.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:13:56pm

indeed

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:15:43pm

re: #214 Jebediah, RBG

Massie is yours? You are one lucky duck ////

His mom is a friend of mine..

sigh

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makeitstop  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:15:46pm

re: #171 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

everything is ‘records’ with him

Well, impeachment is now on his permanent record.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:19:12pm

re: #215 goddamnedfrank

It’s gonna be fucking awesome when one of these sheriffs cites such a local ordinance to refuse to comply with a court order pursuant to a state red flag law, and the subject in question goes on to become an active shooter.

I’d like to know where in their oath of office it states that it is the sheriff who determines the constitutionality of a particular law…

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:19:28pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

His mom is a friend of mine..

sigh

Did the apple fall far away from the tree in this case?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:20:14pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:23:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:23:59pm

this is what’s behind all this second amendment sanctuary bullshit in Kentucky:

Pro-gun demonstrators rally at KY Capitol to protest gun control bills

I had a link yesterday or the day before that detailed the actual bill.
As a gunowner, I don’t have a problem with any of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:24:45pm

re: #221 Jebediah, RBG

Did the apple fall far away from the tree in this case?

his mom is nicer than he is

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:25:56pm

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is what’s behind all this second amendment sanctuary bullshit in Kentucky:

Pro-gun demonstrators rally at KY Capitol to protest gun control bills

I had a link yesterday or the day before that detailed the actual bill.
As a gunowner, I don’t have a problem with any of it.

“Gun control bills”

Common sense regulations are NOT Gun control, ASSHOLES!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:29:49pm
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Jay C  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:30:54pm

SO: OT computer question:

I made the mistake this afternoon of trying to “improve the performance” of my old (c. 7-yo) notebook (WIndows 7 Pro) by downloading AVG Tune-Up, which prompted a restart notice in one of its “cleanup functions”. That was about an hour an, and in said reboot, it spwent about 40 minutes in “update” mode, and has now gotten apparently frozen in the start cycle where it says :

Configuring Windows updates
100% complete
Do not turn off your computer

Which it has been doing for about 25 minutes now.

Dare I push it (i.e. force-kill the power)? Or am I more likely to mess it up even further.
AVG, unsurprisingly, were no help. Even less so since I can’t open the program

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:32:53pm

“…no one is above the law…the president has been held accountable…he has been impeached, impeached forever.”

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:33:36pm

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This Donnie and Marie cover of Steely Dan almost made me head into rehab:

bitchute.com

Damn, I was hoping it was “Hey Nineteen”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:33:38pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:34:16pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹🎃

(more)

Puerto Rico Finally Getting Its Damn Disaster Aid (Wonkette)

These fucking scumbags

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:34:31pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:35:30pm

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This Donnie and Marie cover of Steely Dan almost made me head into rehab:

bitchute.com

I remember dear Allee Willis telling me about the time she saw Donny and Marie butcher her song Boogie Wonderland. She almost took out a shotgun to kill her TV…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:35:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:37:44pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:38:28pm

re: #234 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember dear Allee Willis telling me about the time she saw Donny and Marie butcher her song Boogie Wonderland. She almost took out a shotgun to kill her TV

Well, if Elvis can do it, why can’t she?

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:39:05pm
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retired cynic  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:39:28pm

Please Let It Be, Juanita Jean

Senator Tim Kaine says that he may have as many as a dozen Republican votes to support his attempt to “curtail President Trump’s ability to go to war with Iran, thanks to the reportedly disastrous security briefing Secretary of State Mike Pompeo gave legislators last week.”

She also says that the Energy Department agreed to release Ukraine related docs, inc. from Perry. January 28, February 4 and March 16 are scheduled release dates.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:50:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:50:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:52:32pm
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John Hughes  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:52:33pm

re: #228 Jay C
Ok, I know this is too late, but:

1. On Windows: Never use an antivirus other than Microsoft’s one. All “antivirus”
programs are snake oil, at least buy it from the snake breeder.

2. Windows 7 is dead. Dump it. Nothing you can do will make it safe, Microsoft have abandoned it.

3. Windows is inherently insecure. It will always be. Use Linux if you can, or if you’re wedded to some windows program understand that it’s more “convenient” because it’s full of dangerous security shortcuts.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:52:51pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Where are the Big Mac’s?

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:53:43pm

re: #228 Jay C

SO: OT computer question:

I made the mistake this afternoon of trying to “improve the performance” of my old (c. 7-yo) notebook (WIndows 7 Pro) by downloading AVG Tune-Up, which prompted a restart notice in one of its “cleanup functions”. That was about an hour an, and in said reboot, it spwent about 40 minutes in “update” mode, and has now gotten apparently frozen in the start cycle where it says :

Configuring Windows updates
100% complete
Do not turn off your computer

Which it has been doing for about 25 minutes now.

Dare I push it (i.e. force-kill the power)? Or am I more likely to mess it up even further.
AVG, unsurprisingly, were no help. Even less so since I can’t open the program

Wait 10 more minutes. If Windows does not respond, reset the machine (power off, wait 10 seconds, power back up).

What you’re describing is Windows Update, not AVG. AVG just starts Windows Update for you. What you describe is, unfortunately, a common Windows problem. When Windows has many updates, the process of updating can crawl.

When you force reset the machine, depending on its progress, Windows may roll back the updates. Let it do so. As soon as it let’s you into the machne, you may open up the apps window in Settings and remove AVG.

(I don’t use AVG as I have my own procedure for maintenance I prefer using. If I use a multifunction “cleanup” app, I only use one function at any one time until I understand what it is doing.

Bon courage!

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John Hughes  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:56:07pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

Damn, I remember fighting my way through there in Fallout 3.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:57:49pm

re: #243 John Hughes

“Insecurity” is relative. The most secure OS you can use is the one you are familiar with. For some, it will be Linux, but for most people, Windows, Mac or Android will be called for.
I’m familiar with all of these OS’s and none of them are free of bugs or security issues.

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Jay C  Jan 15, 2020 • 3:58:32pm

re: #243 John Hughes

Thanks. I know most of this: the machine in question is to be the backup laptop: I’ve just been holding on to it because as bad as W7 is/can be; I really HATE W10. But obviously, I don’t have much of a choice….

re: #245 Sherlock Hound

Thanks, also. I was thinking of doing just that.

Fortunately, I have a newer laptop as backup: so I can keep LGF “informed”…////

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:01:43pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:02:14pm

re: #243 John Hughes

Ok, I know this is too late, but:

1. On Windows: Never use an antivirus other than Microsoft’s one. All “antivirus”
programs are snake oil, at least buy it from the snake breeder.

2. Windows 7 is dead. Dump it. Nothing you can do will make it safe, Microsoft have abandoned it.

3. Windows is inherently insecure. It will always be. Use Linux if you can, or if you’re wedded to some windows program understand that it’s more “convenient” because it’s full of dangerous security shortcuts.

I also recommend using a virtual PC where possible. That way if it gets borked there’s no risk to your physical hardware or hard drive.

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retired cynic  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:03:31pm

re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg

I also recommend using a virtual PC where possible. That way if it gets borked there’s no risk to your physical hardware or hard drive.

I hate Windows, and use it when I have to only on a secondary laptop in a virtual machine.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:04:18pm

So the Senate is finally getting the Impeachment Articles. That gives them 13 working days between now and the SOTU.

I am going to go ahead and guess they’ll try and have this wrapped up by 1/25.

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:06:38pm

re: #228 Jay C

SO: OT computer question:

I made the mistake this afternoon of trying to “improve the performance” of my old (c. 7-yo) notebook (WIndows 7 Pro) by downloading AVG Tune-Up, which prompted a restart notice in one of its “cleanup functions”. That was about an hour an, and in said reboot, it spwent about 40 minutes in “update” mode, and has now gotten apparently frozen in the start cycle where it says :

Configuring Windows updates
100% complete
Do not turn off your computer

Which it has been doing for about 25 minutes now.

Dare I push it (i.e. force-kill the power)? Or am I more likely to mess it up even further.
AVG, unsurprisingly, were no help. Even less so since I can’t open the program

Mac guy here, but echoing what others have said: if you stay with Windows, get a Win10 machine ASAP. Win7 was end-of-lifed within the last week, making it automatically insecure.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:08:37pm

Religious news from Friendly Atheist:

Dave Daubenmire: Meghan Markle “Poisoned” the Royal Family By Being “Half Black”
E.W. Jackson: U.S. Liberals Are Totally the Same as the North Korean Regime
Oklahoma Lawmaker Files Bill Declaring 2020 “Year of the Bible”

Judge Tosses Atheist Group’s Lawsuit Against IRS Over Its Tax Exempt Status

Back in 2018, the Freedom From Religion Foundation filed an important lawsuit against the IRS after the government revoked the tax exempt status of its charity “Nonbelief Relief,” which had given away more than $590,000 over the past several years to assist disaster recovery efforts, help atheists trying to escape oppressive regimes, and support groups like Doctors Without Borders.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:10:20pm

re: #190 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

sometimes i despise living in florida

Idaho isn’t any better.

Idaho Moves Ahead on Birth Certificate Gender Change Rule

Idaho AG signs on in argument against LGBTQ protections

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:11:58pm

re: #251 retired cynic

I hate Windows, and use it when I have to only on a secondary laptop in a virtual machine.

First world computing problems time: the new MacOS is 64-bit, which is the end of the line for any 32-bit apps. Apple’s been warning developers about this for a few years.

My one 32-bit app I desperately don’t want to lose? Hat-simulator war game Team Fortress 2. Steam itself is 64-bit, but it’s looking like (my guess, nothing else) they’re probably taking all of their 32-bit Mac games out behind the barn, regardless of popularity, and calling it a day.

Hence my likely acquisition of a Windows 10 license, as it will likely be the only way to play TF2 on a modern Mac anytime soon.

LOL, my life is awful.

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Jay C  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:12:21pm

re: #253 Mattand

Mac guy here, but echoing what others have said: if you stay with Windows, get a Win10 machine ASAP. Win7 was end-of-lifed within the last week, making it automatically insecure.

I know.
My main reason(s) for holding on to my old Dell are:
1. I have MS Office/Word (2013) on it with years of documents (and have been trying to avoid having to pay for the new version)
2. I have over 40,000 games of Solitaire recorded on the old After Dark Games, and hate having to lose them (ADG was near-obsolete even in ‘13, and a PITA to port over to W7).

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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:13:53pm

re: #243 John Hughes

Ok, I know this is too late, but:

1. On Windows: Never use an antivirus other than Microsoft’s one. All “antivirus”
programs are snake oil, at least buy it from the snake breeder.

2. Windows 7 is dead. Dump it. Nothing you can do will make it safe, Microsoft have abandoned it.

3. Windows is inherently insecure. It will always be. Use Linux if you can, or if you’re wedded to some windows program understand that it’s more “convenient” because it’s full of dangerous security shortcuts.

I’ll fully agree with 1 and 3. 2, while true, is one of those things only you can decide. I stayed with XP for a long time after it was out of support before finally jumping all the way to 10 for my personal use of Windows. OTOH, I was prepared to wipe and reinstall at the drop of a hat with my important files stored to DVDs.

Right now Warframe needs windows. That means I stay on 10. Your mileage, will vary.

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retired cynic  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:15:21pm

re: #256 Mattand

Losing my 32 bit apps has kept me from upgrading my Macs. I have a list, and moan over it every now and again!

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:15:41pm

re: #257 Jay C

I know.
My main reason(s) for holding on to my old Dell are:
1. I have MS Office/Word (2013) on it with years of documents (and have been trying to avoid having to pay for the new version)
2. I have over 40,000 games of Solitaire recorded on the old After Dark Games, and hate having to lose them (ADG was near-obsolete even in ‘13, and a PITA to port over to W7).

I hear ya. I had a death grip on Adobe Creative Suite CS5 for literally 10 years. Most of the work I do can be done in there. It finally got to the point where I was getting too many jobs from clients who were in Creative Cloud natively, and had to pony up.

I fucking despise the software rental model.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:15:49pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

Josh is really fortunate to have Josh on his team.

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retired cynic  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:17:49pm

re: #260 Mattand

I hear that, too. All Adobe CC2020 here. Just hope I can keep paying the dues. May have to ask my nonprofits to pony up to help on that!

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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:18:09pm

re: #185 Barefoot Grin

Scoville Memorial Library is the public library of Salisbury, Connecticut. Established in 1803, it was the first in the United States open to the public free of charge. It is located at 38 Main Street, in an architecturally distinguished Romanesque 1894 building donated by Jonathan Scoville, a local philanthropist. The building was listed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1982.
(maybe not first taxpayer funded)
en.wikipedia.org

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Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:20:42pm

Just a question here.

Is president impeached now?

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Jay C  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:22:42pm

re: #245 Sherlock Hound

BTW, I followed your advice and restarted the old laptop (in Safe Mode, just to be sure), so for 15 minutes or so now, it’s been still cycling through the “Configuring Windows updates” screen: only this time frozen at 35% complete.

Thanks anyway, Lizards: I’m going on my drinks dinner break…

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:23:05pm
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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:23:42pm

re: #260 Mattand

I fucking despise the software rental model.

I still use Photoshop CS2 for that reason that thankfully runs just fine under 10. I’d use GIMP if I had to but it sucks.

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John Hughes  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:25:17pm

re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg

I also recommend using a virtual PC where possible. That way if it gets borked there’s no risk to your physical hardware or hard drive.

The only important thing about a computer is the information you have on it. The “physical hardware and hard drive” are not worth worrying about, and are almost never damaged by viruses anyway. It’s your private data (credit card numbers, passwords &c) and the works you have made (writing, art in general…) that are at risk. A virtual PC doesn’t help there.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:26:11pm
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John Hughes  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:28:49pm

re: #256 Mattand

My one 32-bit app I desperately don’t want to lose? Hat-simulator war game Team Fortress 2. Steam itself is 64-bit, but it’s looking like (my guess, nothing else) they’re probably taking all of their 32-bit Mac games out behind the barn, regardless of popularity, and calling it a day.

Makes no sense. Any decent OS can run 32 bit apps an a 64 bit system without problems.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:29:48pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“…no one is above the law…the president has been held accountable…he has been impeached, impeached forever.”

Like a dog

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:30:32pm

re: #258 William Lewis

I’ll fully agree with 1 and 3. 2, while true, is one of those things only you can decide. I stayed with XP for a long time after it was out of support before finally jumping all the way to 10 for my personal use of Windows. OTOH, I was prepared to wipe and reinstall at the drop of a hat with my important files stored to DVDs.

Right now Warframe needs windows. That means I stay on 10. Your mileage, will vary.

Hell, I still have a Win 98 box that I use for PC board design (PC-Trace) and an old Canon 465 Laser jet printer to print out the negatives. Needless to say, it’s not hooked up to the house network but is still a viable system that does what I need it to do. If it works, why screw with it?

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John Hughes  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:32:48pm

re: #265 Jay C

BTW, I followed your advice and restarted the old laptop (in Safe Mode, just to be sure), so for 15 minutes or so now, it’s been still cycling through the “Configuring Windows updates” screen: only this time frozen at 35% complete.

I have one laptop that’s been in Windows update for three years now. Every so often I boot from the Linux I usually use back to Windows to try to fix it then give up after an hour or so of faffing around.

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:33:29pm

re: #270 John Hughes

Makes no sense. Any decent OS can run 32 bit apps an a 64 bit system without problems.

Apple has always been particularly ruthless when it comes to cutting off support for older software and hardware. There’s way too many pluses and minuses in that argument to get into here.

In my case, though, not being able to play TF2 at a moment’s notice isn’t exactly the end of the world. To be honest, at my age, I probably shouldn’t be playing any video game, period.

That said, I’m a goddamn awesome Medic.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:34:09pm

re: #266 Dread Pirate

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Schiff is a terrific leader. Great pick to lead this thing. An experienced legislator and former federal prosecutor.

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:34:25pm

re: #264 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

Just a question here.

Is president impeached now?

LOL, yeah, I guess we’re burying the lead here.

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John Hughes  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:34:56pm

re: #272 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Needless to say, it’s not hooked up to the house network

Don’t make the Iranian mistake. Stuxnet is still out there.

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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:35:18pm

re: #274 Mattand

Apple has always been particularly ruthless when it comes to cutting off support for older software and hardware. There’s way too many pluses and minuses in that argument to get into here.

In my case, though, not being able to play TF2 at a moment’s notice isn’t exactly the end of the world. To be honest, at my age, I probably shouldn’t be playing any video game, period.

That said, I’m a goddamn awesome Medic.

People who are willing to play and are good at support roles are a godsend in a team game. I play a similar role as a Loki Main in Warframe.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:36:01pm

re: #269 Dread Pirate

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I know that Helms sided with the Processo tho that was the Senate and not Exec Branch. And Pinochet got Maggie’s forever love by siding with the Brits.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:38:12pm

So, what does Salma Hayek have to do with anything?

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:39:05pm

re: #270 John Hughes

Makes no sense. Any decent OS can run 32 bit apps an a 64 bit system without problems.

I just re-read this. If you’re talking about Valve, they’re actually pretty picky about what they want to work on. They may figure there’s not enough cash in the Mac game market ( a very reasonable business observation) to bother bringing everything over to 64-bit.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:39:26pm

I’ve probably read too much, studied too much, heard too much… and now just random things are leaking out of my mind.

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:39:38pm

re: #280 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So, what does Salma Hayek have to do with anything?

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She’d be a better President than Trump.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:42:11pm

re: #283 Mattand

She’d be a better President than Trump.

And so would the Cookie Monster, but I doubt that is why I thought of her.

Oh… and Alan Alda (and possibly Loretta Swit.)

Maybe I read somewhere that Hayek is producing something… with MASH alumni?

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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:43:22pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:49:48pm

I see the Berners are pushing another stupid hashtag:

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:49:49pm
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Belafon  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:53:07pm

re: #136 gocart mozart

“Grass-roots” doesn’t mean “votes for Sanders.”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:53:08pm

re: #277 John Hughes

Don’t make the Iranian mistake. Stuxnet is still out there.

Damn! That means I’ll need to move my centrifuges over to the C-64.

///

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:53:40pm

re: #285 gocart mozart

We literally have thousand of pages of evidence that Trump is the most crooked POTUS ever, and:

A) it’s still not enough to bring the MAGAts back to reality, so it’s probably fair to call them a cult at this point

B) it’s stil not enough for the “independents” to go “Yeah, any Democratic President has to be better than this monster.”

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Mattand  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:54:34pm

Bernie Bros: the suicide bombers of the Democratic Party.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:54:46pm

So I see in WTF-Google??? today that my google searches are now being filtered so that major news orgs and other organizations’s web pages are coming up first, complete with those little avatars which are too small to be clear.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:55:07pm

re: #289 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Damn! That means I’ll need to move my centrifuges over to the C-64.

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We used to run windfarms on Apple IIs.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:56:23pm

re: #287 goddamnedfrank

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The whole thing is just unbelievable.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:57:34pm

re: #293 Dread Pirate

We used to run windfarms on Apple IIs.

We used to run nuclear ICBMs with hand-made hard wired circuits with discrete components on little boards.

Scary days, those were.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 15, 2020 • 4:58:10pm

The cruelty is the point.

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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:00:12pm

re: #295 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We used to run nuclear ICBMs with hand-made hard wired circuits with discrete components on little boards.

Scary days, those were.

They still run them on PDP-11 based hardware. 8” floppies. And here the CP-M dudes thought they bought enough to keep that media in production! ;)

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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:02:59pm

re: #296 DodgerFan1988

The cruelty is the point.

If I were a rich man with a jet that could make trans-Atlantic hops, it would be fun to imagine kidnapping him (and perhaps a couple of others) and “Rendition” them to the war crimes tribunal at the Hague… ;)

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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:03:29pm
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Weaselone  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:05:57pm

re: #290 Mattand

B) it’s stil not enough for the “independents” to go “Yeah, any Democratic President has to be better than this monster.”

You have to be careful with independents. Remember, they aren’t necessarily paying attention and when they listen to the nightly news they hear things like “Trump responded forcefully to Democrats in a wide ranging speech” to describe his batshit crazy rallies.

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cat-tikvah  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:06:05pm

Having some fun with the Trump bumper sticker generator!
Feel free to share!

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:08:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:10:21pm
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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:12:34pm
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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:13:35pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:13:44pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Do the ban headscarves or Anarchy or Satanist symbols? Hex signs? What if I wore a white flag with the wording “The last Confederate flag”, would that be cool with them?

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:14:32pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:14:37pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:15:04pm

WUT

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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:19:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:20:07pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:29:15pm

re: #311 Charles Johnson

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We’ve never seen anything like this.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:29:20pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:30:13pm

Small things that make you happy. I just found the 4th of the 14 hidden orbs in the game Inside. Once I find them all it will unlock the ending. Sure I could just check out a YouTube vid to find where they are, but what’s the fun in that.

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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:31:13pm
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William Lewis  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:32:07pm

Now for something completely different…

Can’t get time at CERN on one of the particle accelerators to run your experiments? Well, not a problem anymore!

PARTICLE ACCELERATORS THAT FIT ON A CHIP!

If you were asked to imagine a particle accelerator, you would probably picture a high-energy electron beam contained within a kilometers-long facility, manned by hundreds of engineers and researchers. You probably wouldn’t think of a chip smaller than a fingernail, yet that’s exactly what the SLAC National Accelerator Laboratory’s Accelerator on a Chip International Program (ACHIP) has accomplished.

hackaday.com

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:33:10pm

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

“Gun control bills”

Common sense regulations are NOT Gun control, ASSHOLES!

They wanna be a militia, they are gonna be regulated. Second amendment.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:33:44pm

Gonna go out on a limb here and bet that Lev Parnas won’t get a pardon from Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:34:09pm

re: #315 gocart mozart

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The Soros shit is so creepy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:34:25pm

re: #318 Barefoot Grin

Gonna go out on a limb here and bet that Lev Parnas won’t get a pardon from Trump.

Nope.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:35:10pm

re: #313 Dread Pirate

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump tells Hannity state secrets. I really wouldn’t.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:35:17pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:35:52pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cat Stevens - On The Road To Find Out **FULL VERSION**(1971)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:37:24pm

re: #322 Charles Johnson

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I don’t either. He’s a jerk to women who he feels are in his way. Madeline Kunin, HRC, and now Warren. All have had the audacity to run for office as a woman against him.

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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:37:42pm
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Cheechako  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:38:33pm

re: #318 Barefoot Grin

Lev appears to be the type of person who wouldn’t fare very well in prison. He’ll spill every thing he knows to avoid jail time.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:38:56pm

re: #325 gocart mozart

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Uh huh.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:39:27pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:40:01pm

Ayanna breaks from the rest of “The Squad”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:42:21pm

re: #253 Mattand

Mac guy here, but echoing what others have said: if you stay with Windows, get a Win10 machine ASAP. Win7 was end-of-lifed within the last week, making it automatically insecure.

I have my old Win7 laptop about since I still have photos and some other stuff saved on it. But I also have it’s internet access turned off and only boot it up to use USB drives to get stuff off of it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:42:46pm

re: #328 Charles Johnson

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And I think that’s why Obama stood by HRC. They had their past differences but they both were the targets of that. I’m just tired of Bernie Sanders. It’s too bad because he’s capable of making a good point but he can be as patronizing and dismissive as anyone.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:43:08pm

re: #238 Dread Pirate

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So freedom of the press can be restricted, but guns can’t be.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:43:51pm

re: #329 The Pie Overlord!

Adult decisions…..

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:44:31pm

Elsewhere, Costa Rica is sticky hot, but peaceful.

I took most of my pictures with my camera, but here’s one I took with my phone:

On the River

Two days at sea, then I’ll be off to Galapagos. I expect all of you to take good notes so I can catch up on everything when I get back!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:46:58pm

Finished Franklin. Found a new bio of George Marshall on Audible. IMO the epitome of an American statesman.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:50:06pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:52:09pm

re: #285 gocart mozart

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So campaign finance violations too.

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gocart mozart  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:53:17pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:53:33pm

re: #321 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump tells Hannity state secrets. I really wouldn’t.

I WOULD be surprised if Trump DIDN’T tell Hannity state secrets. The man has no filters. None.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:54:35pm

re: #338 gocart mozart

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That “Yeah. Good. Okay.” pretty much sums up how I feel about Steyer being on the stage.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:58:35pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 15, 2020 • 5:59:37pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 15, 2020 • 6:03:12pm

I caught the Nicolle Wallace/Chuck Todd transition and it was awkward af (af=as fuck). Chuck was trying to find a way to say that he thought the march of the articles of impeachment was ridiculous when Nicolle saved him by saying something like, ‘I hear what you’re saying and I too think it may be off time given all of the new information that’s come to light in the last 24 hours.’ Chuck, realizing that Nicolle had saved his ass, said, ‘yeah, I think that’s it, it just feels like too much pomp and not enough substance.’

No wonder there are rumors of some scheduling changes at MSNBC.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 15, 2020 • 6:03:53pm

re: #301 cat-tikvah

Having some fun with the Trump bumper sticker generator!
Feel free to share!

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I like the “Flush with Success” the best

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 6:04:05pm
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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 6:06:00pm

Rachel is on

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 15, 2020 • 6:06:35pm

re: #346 Dread Pirate

Rachel is on

Not watching . please give us the gist. thanks.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 15, 2020 • 6:06:43pm

I want to learn more about her, but in her appearances I’ve seen so far, I have great expectations for Val Demings.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 15, 2020 • 6:08:52pm

Lev will continue to provide more documents as they can find them.

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Belafon  Jan 15, 2020 • 6:09:18pm

re: #292 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So I see in WTF-Google??? today that my google searches are now being filtered so that major news orgs and other organizations’s web pages are coming up first, complete with those little avatars which are too small to be clear.

I think they’re attaching avatars for any website. Google “little green footballs” and you’ll see them for wikipedia and GoFundMe.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 15, 2020 • 6:09:54pm

re: #347 I Would Prefer Not To

Not watching . please give us the gist. thanks.

“Could an associate report to aisle 9 with broom and pan. Beans have been spilled and they’re all over the place.”

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 15, 2020 • 6:29:42pm

re: #336 Charles Johnson

I noted the concern trolls on the CNN thread.
I’ll say this: In their heart of hearts, Bernie Bros don’t care about the election. If Bernie is nominated, it won’t matter if I vote for him or not, because he will be blown out in the general election.

Bernie’s peeps will be OK with 4 more years of Trump. Heightening the contradictions, tearing it all down, and ultimately all of them grifting on what’s left.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jan 15, 2020 • 6:50:16pm

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Things I have repeatedly heard since 1978:

Arizona is about to go Blue

All the good jobs are leaving California for Texas

Environmentalists stop brush clearing and cause fires because of this militance
(when I asked about numerous posted brush clearance regulations here in Ventura County, was told problem was elsewhere)

The Angels have a contending team this year

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sagehen  Jan 15, 2020 • 7:22:51pm

re: #351 Barefoot Grin

“Could an associate report to aisle 9 with broom and pan. Beans have been spilled and they’re all over the place.”

“Can open. Worms everywhere.”


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