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gocart mozart  Jan 20, 2020 • 8:32:27pm
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Belafon  Jan 20, 2020 • 8:37:52pm
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Dread Pirate  Jan 20, 2020 • 8:39:20pm
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Belafon  Jan 20, 2020 • 8:41:39pm

re: #280 Dread Pirate

Trump was impeached. We knew that was the most likely outcome, and we should build on that. It would be a shock if Trump were removed, because McConnell is working as hard as he can to end this so that he can concentrate on keeping the Senate. He’s keeping House bills from coming up for a vote so that vulnerable Republicans don’t have to make a choice.

Trump’s removal would cost him his job.

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plansbandc  Jan 20, 2020 • 8:43:30pm

The reason why I fell in love with twitter was the interaction with people who create things I love. I had a great twitter exchange with my fave musician. Lovely.

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William Lewis  Jan 20, 2020 • 9:27:20pm

re: #2 Belafon

Interesting to see William Gibson in that thread, all things considered…

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KGxvi  Jan 20, 2020 • 9:32:24pm

re: #4 Belafon

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Trump was impeached. We knew that was the most likely outcome, and we should build on that. It would be a shock if Trump were removed, because McConnell is working as hard as he can to end this so that he can concentrate on keeping the Senate. He’s keeping House bills from coming up for a vote so that vulnerable Republicans don’t have to make a choice.

Trump’s removal would cost him his job.

McConnell is between the proverbial rock and hard place. Acquitting Trump likely costs him the majority, removing Trump likely costs him the majority. I doubt that he wants to be the Senate minority leader, and it’s entirely possible that losing the majority could even cost him his role as caucus leader. I’ve a feeling 2020 is going to go very poorly for Republicans in the Senate.

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Renaissance_Man  Jan 20, 2020 • 9:35:11pm

re: #7 KGxvi

McConnell is between the proverbial rock and hard place. Acquitting Trump likely costs him the majority, removing Trump likely costs him the majority. I doubt that he wants to be the Senate minority leader, and it’s entirely possible that losing the majority could even cost him his role as caucus leader. I’ve a feeling 2020 is going to go very poorly for Republicans in the Senate.

I think this is overly optimistic, but hopefully you’re right. I don’t see how Republicans lose the Senate at all.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2020 • 9:39:29pm

re: #4 Belafon

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Trump was impeached. We knew that was the most likely outcome, and we should build on that. It would be a shock if Trump were removed, because McConnell is working as hard as he can to end this so that he can concentrate on keeping the Senate. He’s keeping House bills from coming up for a vote so that vulnerable Republicans don’t have to make a choice.

Trump’s removal would cost him his job.

The number of friends/relatives/FB FOAF who remain enamored of Trump is terrifying. My sister repeatedly says that she cannot understand how anyone can look at Trump and think this is the person to lead our nation. Once Trump is “acquitted”, his news media will be proclaiming daily how this was all fake — an unjustified persecution — that he has been exonerated. We need to be louder than they in pushing the narrative that he is as innocent as OJ.

George Conway’s comment downstairs, posted by Belafon, reflects exactly my perspective on the issue:

Any member of Congress who supported Clinton’s impeachment but not Trump’s is especially dishonest and criminal. But every Republican Senator who took the oath to administer impartial justice has perjured themselves unless they can find the courage to demand a fair trial — and that’s not likely to happen under McConnell and his merry band of Putin admirers. We must dislodge them from the Senate in November if we hope our nation to survive this interlude.

But we also need to reflect that significant Trump support in 2016 arose among those disillusioned with our country — with the jobs vanishing due to technology and offshoring — with seeing their children facing grim futures — with the major financial benefits accruing to the wealthy and bypassing the middle and working classes. As Lawrence discussed today, many keep switching their allegiance because previous administrations of both parties have not stopped the hemorrhaging of jobs. So they keep on trying something new — and so far that hasn’t improved their lives.

Let’s hope that 2020 will bring an end to the nightmare that currently envelops us. And that Trump, Pence, McConnell, and Graham are thrown to the wayside.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 20, 2020 • 9:42:11pm

Long thread

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 20, 2020 • 9:45:02pm

re: #9 Hecuba’s daughter

My brainwashed relatives are in the President’s Prayer Team praying for Trump’s exoneration.

This is what we are up against.

They believe he is God’s Anointed King who will bring the Second Coming to fruition.

Nothing will dissuade them from that delusion.

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KGxvi  Jan 20, 2020 • 9:45:24pm

re: #8 Renaissance_Man

I think this is overly optimistic, but hopefully you’re right. I don’t see how Republicans lose the Senate at all.

Arizona, Colorado, Maine, and North Carolina are going to be tough defenses for the GOP. What little polling there has been thus far is showing tight races in places we wouldn’t normally expect, including McConnell’s own race. Hell, Purdue in Georgia against a generic Democrat is only running at 35%. The field might be much wider than we would normally think. Trump’s historically unpopular and there seems to be indications that this might be one of the highest turn out elections we’ve seen in living memory.

I’m choosing to be optimistic, perhaps overly so, because the alternative is just too damn depressing.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 20, 2020 • 9:51:49pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2020 • 9:59:36pm

re: #12 KGxvi

Arizona, Colorado, Maine, and North Carolina are going to be tough defenses for the GOP. What little polling there has been thus far is showing tight races in places we wouldn’t normally expect, including McConnell’s own race. Hell, Purdue in Georgia against a generic Democrat is only running at 35%. The field might be much wider than we would normally think. Trump’s historically unpopular and there seems to be indications that this might be one of the highest turn out elections we’ve seen in living memory.

I’m choosing to be optimistic, perhaps overly so, because the alternative is just too damn depressing.

During a phone conversation last night, a friend insisted that if he ever exhibits any taint of optimism, I have to slap him (metaphorically speaking) to bring him back to reality. But as you say, reality is too depressing. Maybe we should consider that we aren’t living in the Depression nor in the depths of WWII — that life has been far worse here for most people even if the President has never been this vile or treasonous. Of course, my “upbeat” (///) mantra has always been — nothing is so bad that it can’t get worse.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 20, 2020 • 10:11:58pm
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Dread Pirate  Jan 20, 2020 • 10:16:36pm

Negroes were first brought to America in 1620 when England legalized slavery both in England and the colonies and America; the institution grew and thrived for about 150 years upon the backs of these black men. The empire of King Cotton was built and the southland maintained a status of life and hospitality distinctly its own and not anywhere else.

On January 1, 1863 the proclamation emancipating the slaves which had been decreed by President Lincoln in September took effect—millions of Negroes faced a rising sun of a new day begun. Did they have habits of thrift or principles of honesty and integrity? Only a few! For their teachings and duties had been but two activities—love of Master, right or wrong, good or bad, and loyalty to work. What was to be the place for such men in the reconstruction of the south?

America gave its full pledge of freedom seventy-five years ago. Slavery has been a strange paradox in a nation founded on the principles that all men are created free and equal. Finally after tumult and war, the nation in 1865 took a new stand—freedom for all people. The new order was backed by amendments to the national constitution making it the fundamental law that thenceforth there should be no discrimination anywhere in the “land of the free” on account of race, color or previous condition of servitude.

Black America still wears chains. The finest Negro is at the mercy of the meanest white man. Even winners of our highest honors face the class color bar. Look at a few of the paradoxes that mark daily life in America. Marian Anderson was barred from singing in the Constitution Hall, ironically enough, by the professional daughters of the very men who founded this nation for liberty and equality. But this tale had a different ending. The nation rose in protest, and gave a stunning rebuke to the Daughters of the American Revolution and a tremendous ovation to the artist, Marian Anderson, who sang in Washington on Easter Sunday and fittingly, before the Lincoln Memorial. Ranking cabinet members and a justice of the supreme court were seated about her. Seventy-five thousand people stood patiently for hours to hear a great artist at a historic moment. She sang as never before with tears in her eyes. When the words of “America” and “Nobody Knows De Trouble I Seen” rang out over that great gathering, there was a hush on thee sea of uplifted faces, black and white, and a new baptism of liberty, equality and fraternity. That was a touching tribute, but Miss Anderson may not as yet spend the night in any good hotel in America. Recently she was again signally honored by being given the Bok reward as the most distinguished resident of Philadelphia. Yet she cannot be served in many of the public restaurants of her home city, eveen after it has declared her to be its best citizen.2

So, with their right hand they raise to high places the great who have dark skins, and with their left, they slap us down to keep us in “our places.” “Yes, America you have stripped me of my garments, you have robbed me of my precious endowment.”

We cannot have an enlightened democracy with one great group living in ignorance. We cannot have a healthy nation with one tenth of the people ill-nourished, sick, harboring germs of disease which recognize no color lines—obey no Jim Crow laws. We cannot have a nation orderly and sound with one group so ground down and thwarted that it is almost forced into unsocial attitudes and crime. We cannot be truly Christian people so long as we flaunt the central teachings of Jesus: brotherly love and the Golden Rule. We cannot come to full prosperity with one great group so ill-delayed that it cannot buy goods. So as we gird ourselves to defend democracy from foreign attack, let us see to it that increasingly at home we give fair play and free opportunity for all people.

Today thirteen million black sons and daughters of our forefathers continue the fight for the translation of the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments from writing on the printed page to an actuality. We believe with them that “if freedom is good for any it is good for all,” that we may conquer southern armies by the sword, but it is another thing to conquer southern hate, that if the franchise is given to Negroes, they will be vigilant and defend even with their arms, the ark of federal liberty from treason and destruction by her enemies.

The spirit of Lincoln still lives; that spirit born of the teachings of the Nazarene, who promised mercy to the merciful, who lifted the lowly, strengthened the weak, ate with publicans, and made the captives free. In the light of this divine example, the doctrines of demagogues shiver in their chaff. Already closer understanding links Saxon and Freedman in mutual sympathy.

America experiences a new birth of freedom in her sons and daughters; she incarnates the spirit of her martyred chief. Their loyalty is repledged; their devotion renewed to the work He left unfinished. My heart throbs anew in the hope that inspired by the example of Lincoln, imbued with the spirit of Christ, they will cast down the last barrier to perfect freedom. And I with my brother of blackest hue possessing at last my rightful heritage and holding my head erect, may stand beside the Saxon—a Negro—and yet a man!

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Targetpractice  Jan 20, 2020 • 10:18:09pm

If you want to understand the reasoning behind the rules that Mitch plans to drop on the floor of the Senate like a poorly-firmed turd, just keep five words in mind: “State of the Union Address.” When you’ve got a “reality TV” president, the opportunity to stand before the nation in less than 3 weeks time and declare yourself “VINDICATED!!!” is too great to worry about looking fair or impartial.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 20, 2020 • 10:26:27pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

If you want to understand the reasoning behind the rules that Mitch plans to drop on the floor of the Senate like a poorly-firmed turd, just keep five words in mind: “State of the Union Address.” When you’ve got a “reality TV” president, the opportunity to stand before the nation in less than 3 weeks time and declare yourself “VINDICATED!!!” is too great to worry about looking fair or impartial.

You are so right. He could take this chastisement as an opportunity to try to unite this nation and to speak to those of us who have never accepted his rule — but he won’t. He is incapable of learning these lessons — and why should he? His entire life has taught him that lying, bullying, cheating and cruelty pave the road to success — the rest of us are losers. And his election confirmed to him that there is no reason to change his course.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 20, 2020 • 10:31:51pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 20, 2020 • 11:26:24pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

My brainwashed relatives are in the President’s Prayer Team praying for Trump’s exoneration.

This is what we are up against.

They believe he is God’s Anointed King who will bring the Second Coming to fruition.

Nothing will dissuade them from that delusion.

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“When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong - faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it’s too late.”

- Frank Herbert, Dune

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Dread Pirate  Jan 21, 2020 • 12:04:27am
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Dread Pirate  Jan 21, 2020 • 12:05:56am

We’re going to have to call a whole lot of Republicans to testify about their contacts with Lev.

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Targetpractice  Jan 21, 2020 • 12:56:25am

Dems: “THEY CAN’T DENY THE EVIDENCE!!!”

Repubs: “What evidence? *sound of paper shredders starts up*”

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 21, 2020 • 1:11:46am
Governments around the world have always struggled to stop the spread of disease, from the deadly swine flu which struck the globe in 2009, to ongoing attempts to rein in Ebola in West Africa.

No health authority has ever tackled the challenge currently faced by China, however, as the country grapples with a new coronavirus just as hundreds of millions prepare to travel during the Lunar New Year period — the largest annual human migration on Earth.

During the Lunar holiday, people from across the country will cram themselves into homebound trains, buses and planes for family reunions. Others will take advantage of the time off to holiday overseas. Last year, close to 7 million Chinese tourists traveled abroad for Lunar New Year, according to state media.

The holiday — the most important in the Chinese calendar — comes at the worst possible time for health authorities racing to contain the outbreak which has put the rest of Asia on alert.

edition.cnn.com (autoplay video embedded)

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Teukka  Jan 21, 2020 • 1:28:31am

re: #23 Targetpractice

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Dems: “THEY CAN’T DENY THE EVIDENCE!!!”

Repubs: “What evidence? *sound of paper shredders starts up*”

Also Repubs:
*(barely) reads “Maximum number of sheets at a time” sign on shredder*
“Nobody tells me what to do!”
*feeds more than the indicated number of sheets into the shredder*
*shredder jams*

I’ll see myself out…

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Teukka  Jan 21, 2020 • 1:31:44am
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jan 21, 2020 • 2:25:57am

You may groan.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 21, 2020 • 2:50:22am

Most of you know I’m an owl nut and we’ve raided 3 clutches of owlets out of the box next to the house.
I built a bunch of owl nest boxes as I was recovering from my back surgery. We put one up on the other side of the house mainly as a squirrel respite. Well, Ricky became amoured with it so here we are.
There is another video from inside the box down thread.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 21, 2020 • 4:20:08am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 21, 2020 • 4:22:37am

re: #29 Dave In Austin

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Bunch a snowflakes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2020 • 4:32:19am

re: #29 Dave In Austin

Is a Tac helmet a requirement for a black gun now??

What self respecting American needs a tac helmet for hunting or plinking at the range?

Someone help me to understand.

This is him showing his readiness to take up arms against a Tyrannical Government.

Which is what these fellows call one that is democratically and freely elected, but which they disagree with…

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Dave In Austin  Jan 21, 2020 • 4:38:22am

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is him showing his readiness to take up arms against a Tyrannical Government.

Which is what you called one that is democratically and freely elected, but which you disagree with…

So #TyrannyHelmets then…….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 21, 2020 • 4:44:50am

re: #32 Dave In Austin

So #TyrannyHelmets then…….

Brainbuckets

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jeffreyw  Jan 21, 2020 • 5:42:10am

Good morning!

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 5:42:58am

this is something we dont see too often south of Orlando:

…WIND CHILL ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO 9 AM
EST WEDNESDAY…

* WHAT…Wind chills are forecast to range from the mid 20s to mid
30s.

* WHERE…Across South Florida.

* WHEN…Tonight into Wednesday Morning.

the actual temp was 54 this morning, which i know i lot of you are laughing at.

it’s all relative though. while we can bundle up, stay inside, even turn on the heat, palm trees, citrus crops, iguanas and other wildlife arent really built for such low temps, and many of them only get the one chance

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2020 • 5:51:59am

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 21, 2020 • 5:59:32am

re: #8 Renaissance_Man

I think this is overly optimistic, but hopefully you’re right. I don’t see how Republicans lose the Senate at all.

Its possible. Assuming Doug Jones loses in Alabama, the Democrats need to pick up 4 seats. Targets include Co, Me, Az, Ia, NC, Ga and Tx. We’ll need a huge turnout of our voters.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:08:45am

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:11:52am

re: #37 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Its possible. Assuming Doug Jones loses in Alabama, the Democrats need to pick up 4 seats. Targets include Co, Me, Az, Ia, NC, Ga and Tx. We’ll need a huge turnout of our voters.

And Ky got rid of their governor in favor of a Democrat, and McConnell is up as well.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:12:14am
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Belafon  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:13:50am

re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter

During a phone conversation last night, a friend insisted that if he ever exhibits any taint of optimism, I have to slap him (metaphorically speaking) to bring him back to reality. But as you say, reality is too depressing. Maybe we should consider that we aren’t living in the Depression nor in the depths of WWII — that life has been far worse here for most people even if the President has never been this vile or treasonous. Of course, my “upbeat” (///) mantra has always been — nothing is so bad that it can’t get worse.

Explain that there’s a difference between optimism and wishful thinking. Victories are built on optimism, because why fight if you aren’t going to win. But expecting others to do it will not get any of the results you want.

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lawhawk  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:14:29am

re: #29 Dave In Austin

Chairborne rangers are cosplaying militia types who want to intimidate everyone else into acquiescing to their irrational and dangerous demands for unfettered access to guns and ammo that serve no legitimate purpose in civilian hands.

That’s it. They’re terrorizing those who want sensible gun control and limits on the kinds of guns that can be acquired.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:14:43am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:18:24am

re: #43 Belafon

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That’s why I’m half full.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:29:44am
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jaunte  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:37:39am
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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:51:49am

re: #7 KGxvi

McConnell is between the proverbial rock and hard place. Acquitting Trump likely costs him the majority, removing Trump likely costs him the majority. I doubt that he wants to be the Senate minority leader, and it’s entirely possible that losing the majority could even cost him his role as caucus leader. I’ve a feeling 2020 is going to go very poorly for Republicans in the Senate.

Only because doing the right thing with honor integrity impartiality country before party is a hard place for him

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Jay C  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:55:05am

re: #47 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

Only because doing the right thing with honor integrity impartiality country before party is a hard place for him

And when it comes to Senate Republicans, he’s not alone in that “place”.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 6:58:55am

re: #23 Targetpractice

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Dems: “THEY CAN’T DENY THE EVIDENCE!!!”

Repubs: “What evidence? *sound of paper shredders starts up*”

When a majority of the jurors make the rules…

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:01:18am

David Corn:

“…So much of Trump’s presidency has served up causes for impeachment. Yet still the national debate, due to Trump’s incessant shouting of falsehoods and the loud and robotic amen-ing of Republicans and the conservative media, often becomes fixated on debating reality—was an obvious quid pro quo a quid pro quo or not?—rather than what to do about that reality. The founders envisioned the possibility of a scoundrel gaining control of the White House. But could they envision an entire political party putting on blinders and becoming the loyal and unyielding foot-soldiers of that scoundrel? Could they imagine a wholesale attack on the rule of law and the principle that no man is above the law? Could they imagine a party-wide abandonment of the elemental notion of checks and balances?”
motherjones.com

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:01:44am

re: #29 Dave In Austin

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Jake, it’s crazypantstown

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:06:20am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Brainbuckets

Brainlessbuckets

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:07:56am

re: #50 jaunte

Ignoring that they didn’t imagine political parties forming, they didn’t imagine a large number of government officials deciding the president could ignore the law. But then again, they talked about the right to be free while having slaves and women being unable to vote or own property, so it may not have seemed like it was a thing to consider.

But I am having trouble envisioning a system that could be devised that would be resilient to a large enough number of people in power deciding to subvert it. Our best mechanism right now is that we are forced to have elections.

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:08:55am

re: #53 Belafon

And they’re working on that.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:11:46am

re: #50 jaunte

David Corn:

They assumed an honest and faithful Senate
After all there’s no way to corrupt so many of them at once//

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:12:30am

Is it too much to hope that the national broadcast media will turn against Republicans for depriving them of material for a show?

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mmmirele  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:12:51am

Dunno if you all saw this:

A prayer for survival rose from the back of the church last Sunday.

“I pray for this church, getting through this age-discrimination thing,” said William Gackstetter, as the gray-haired heads around him nodded in agreement.

Gackstetter and other members of the Grove United Methodist Church in Cottage Grove are upset enough that their church is closing in June. What makes it worse is that their church is reopening in November — pretty much without them.

The church wants to attract more young families. The present members, most of them over 60 years old, will be invited to worship somewhere else. A memo recommends that they stay away for two years, then consult the pastor about reapplying.

Officials say the church needs a reset, and reopening the church is the best way to appeal to younger people.

But the older church members say they see that as an insult.

“This is totally wrong,” said Gackstetter’s wife, Cheryl. “They are discriminating against us because of our age.”

More at the link:

twincities.com

I found the “church planter” on Twitter and left him a series of snarky tweets.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:14:40am

re: #56 jaunte

Is it too much to hope that the national broadcast media will turn against Republicans for depriving them of material for a show?

There is no silver bullet here
We know what the outcome is gonna be, from the start
It was always a question of how much info could be brought to light first

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:16:11am

This really is a sign of the fucked up times we’re living in:

The White House has been involved in discussions with GOP allies over the last several days to make sure they’re ready in the event Democrats get enough votes to allow witnesses, such as former national security adviser John Bolton, to testify in President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial, a senior administration official and a person familiar with the matter tell CNN.

The sources say part of those discussions involve the implications, such as executive privilege concerns, if former and current White House officials such as Bolton and acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney are forced to publicly testify.

Testimony from those officials could add key revelations to the inquiry because of their first-hand knowledge of the administration’s dealings with Ukraine.


There are a series of contingencies. We’re prepared,” the senior administration official said. The sources would not disclose what the contingencies are.

The President, who contends he did nothing wrong, is terrified of having witnesses at his own trial.

The Republicans are doing everything they can to hold an Impeachment Trial with NO WITNESSES.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:17:09am

re: #57 mmmirele

Dunno if you all saw this:

More at the link:

twincities.com

I found the “church planter” on Twitter and left him a series of snarky tweets.

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You have to “apply” to this church?

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:18:15am

re: #57 mmmirele

Running churches like a business kind of like running government like a business; it only works if you’re willing to dump the kind of people management doesn’t find useful.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:25:13am

re: #57 mmmirele

Dunno if you all saw this:

More at the link:

twincities.com

I found the “church planter” on Twitter and left him a series of snarky tweets.

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I would argue that the people running the church are doing it wrong. They should leave and start a new church, and invite anything to come along with them.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:28:48am

re: #62 Belafon

I would argue that the people running the church are doing it wrong. They should leave and start a new church, and invite anything to come along with them.

Or, if they think that the church’s views need to change, then change them, and let the older people make a decision on if they want to leave or stay.

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retired cynic  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:32:19am

re: #63 Belafon

Or, if they think that the church’s views need to change, then change them, and let the older people make a decision on if they want to leave or stay.

I read the whole thing, and it sounds like what they have done. It sounds like the older folks have a lay-led congregation, and they are offering them the ability to keep doing that, join the new congregation or a neighboring one.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:36:57am

re: #60 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

You have to “apply” to this church?

Church membership can be a complicated thing. It varies widely by denomination.

Most churches I have been familiar with allow anyone to come through their doors, enjoy the Sunday Service and participate in other church events.

However, that doesn’t necessarily make you a member of said Church. Usually in order to become a member there’s a few requirements you have to meet. Most Churches require you to be a member to be in Leadership, members are also the only ones who get a say in how and where the Church spends its money, among other privileges.

The Senior Pastor, in most cases, has discretion to allow or not allow someone to become a member. For example, recently my Pastor had to deal with a situation where a local guy was trying to become a member, but he had a lengthy history of sexual harassment at several prior churches. So my Pastor told the guy: “Look, if you want to come to our church and worship that’s fine, but it’s not appropriate for you to be a member or be in any kind of leadership role at this time.”

As you might have guessed, the dude flounced quickly thereafter.

That said, I think “you’re too old” is a pretty flimsy justification for booting anyone from a Church, though again, the Senior Pastor usually has wide latitude in regards to who he does or doesn’t allow in the church.

I think the Pastor in this case is very stupid and misguided. The contributions of elders should be welcome and appreciated, not something that’s deemed unwanted and offensive.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:40:35am

re: #36 Joe Bacon 🌹

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I think the mass display of ammosexual absurdity may finally have broken the political spell. People are looking at this thinking, “THESE are the people who have held our government in thrall for 50 years? Fuck this. Ignore these goofy fuckers.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:40:39am

re: #57 mmmirele

aLosRyxBhjHqeYMGAin8HMKEOBmKIC4xMku5AQOWnyZtPF/cSNpnYaHtExSTWntS

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:41:44am

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think the mass display of ammosexual absurdity may finally have broken the political spell. People are looking at this thinking, “THESE are the people who have held our government in thrall for 50 years? Fuck this. Ignore these goofy fuckers.”

Never thought I would see Sgt. Bilko with a gun!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:48:57am
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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:49:16am

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think the mass display of ammosexual absurdity may finally have broken the political spell. People are looking at this thinking, “THESE are the people who have held our government in thrall for 50 years? Fuck this. Ignore these goofy fuckers.”

+1

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retired cynic  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:50:11am

re: #69 The Pie Overlord!

B@st@ard.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:52:16am

re: #68 Joe Bacon 🌹

Never thought I would see Sgt. Bilko with a gun!

i am not one to (generally) judge people on looks
(but i will)

this guy is either

- exactly what he looks like - shouldnt be within 50 yards of that weapon

or
- exactly what he looks like - a dead eye from a ludicrous distance

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2020 • 7:56:56am

re: #69 The Pie Overlord!

In his keynote speech, Mr Trump said that it was a time for optimism, not pessimism, in a speech that touted his administration’s economic achievements and America’s energy boom.

Speaking of climate activists, he said: “These alarmists always demand the same thing - absolute power to dominate, transform and control every aspect of our lives.”
They were, he said, “the heirs of yesterday’s foolish fortune tellers”.

He also announced that the US would join an initiative to plant, restore and conserve a trillion trees.

“We’re committed to conserving the majesty of God’s creation and the natural beauty of our world,” he said.

He was speaking hours before his impeachment trial began in the US Senate.

A trillion trees. More bullshit from the king of the bullshitters.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:00:54am

It seems that some people are getting bent out of shape over this assessment by Hillary of Sanders:

In the doc, you’re brutally honest on Sanders: “He was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him. Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done. He was a career politician. It’s all just baloney and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it.” That assessment still hold?

HRC: Yes, it does.

If he gets the nomination, will you endorse and campaign for him?

HRC: I’m not going to go there yet. We’re still in a very vigorous primary season. I will say, however, that it’s not only him, it’s the culture around him. It’s his leadership team. It’s his prominent supporters. It’s his online Bernie Bros and their relentless attacks on lots of his competitors, particularly the women. And I really hope people are paying attention to that because it should be worrisome that he has permitted this culture — not only permitted, [he] seems to really be very much supporting it. And I don’t think we want to go down that road again where you campaign by insult and attack and maybe you try to get some distance from it, but you either don’t know what your campaign and supporters are doing or you’re just giving them a wink and you want them to go after Kamala [Harris] or after Elizabeth [Warren]. I think that that’s a pattern that people should take into account when they make their decisions.

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lawhawk  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:01:20am

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

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retired cynic  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:02:27am

re: #13 Dread Pirate

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Thanks for the link to the Sam Vinograd piece on CNN. She is one smart cookie:

As a matter of routine collection, it is virtually impossible that the IC would not have gathered intelligence on Ukrainian officials discussing Trump’s calls for an investigation into the Bidens, the freeze of military aid (the President and his allies have alleged the Ukrainians didn’t know about the freeze when Trump spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on July 25 — a claim that others have discounted) and more.
Intelligence showing that Zelensky and his inner circle, for example, did think the President’s ask for an announcement into the Bidens was inappropriate would decimate a pillar of the President’s legal defense — that the Ukrainians thought everything was A-OK.
Unless the intelligence community shut down intelligence collection in Ukraine, there has to be intel on issues directly relevant to the investigation. And there is also likely intelligence from other, non-Ukrainian foreign sources discussing Ukraine-related developments. Those may be pertinent to the impeachment proceedings, not to mention to law enforcement.

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lawhawk  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:03:31am

Wait. Wut?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:04:14am

re: #74 Belafon

It seems that some people are getting bent out of shape over this assessment by Hillary of Sanders:

Yeah, I was just reading that. I’m sure if the BernieBros didn’t hate Hillary enough before, they certainly do now.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:05:31am

Madame Defarge did nothing wrong!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:05:42am

re: #77 lawhawk

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Wait. Wut?

That’s what Glenn gets for not hopping a plane to Moscow!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:05:46am

re: #77 lawhawk

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Wait. Wut?

It’s not like we didn’t warn him.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:06:24am

re: #78 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, I was just reading that. I’m sure if the BernieBros didn’t hate Hillary enough before, they certainly do now.

I think it’s fairly accurate. He’s got lefty resentment wrapped around him - not the desire to change things, just the urge to hate - and it isn’t a good thing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:07:30am

re: #82 Belafon

I think it’s fairly accurate. He’s got lefty resentment wrapped around him - not the desire to change things, just the urge to hate - and it isn’t a good thing.

Don’t forget how Nina Turner campaigned for Jill Stein in 2016…

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Jay C  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:08:24am

re: #77 lawhawk

That charge is probably bogus, but it sounds like the sort of accusation a hostile government would want to hoke up if they wanted a “reasonably credible” excuse to harass someone like Greenwald.

I guess this answers the question which has been floating around the Internet since Bolsonaro was elected: i.e. “when are they going to come for Glenn”???

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jaunte  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:09:27am

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

“Après moi, le déluge.”

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:12:14am

re: #77 lawhawk

Greenwald’s flee to Russia in 3…2…1

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:17:51am

re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹

That’s what Glenn gets for not hopping a plane to Moscow!

re: #86 Florida Panhandler

Greenwald’s flee to Russia in 3…2…1

Probably so. But the smart move would be for Putin to refuse him, sacrificing a broken tool to reinforce the propaganda machine’s lame denials of Russian influence. That would also be utterly immoral and treacherous, of course, but this is Putin we are talking about.

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Ace-o-aces  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:18:20am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:19:49am

re: #86 Florida Panhandler

Greenwald’s flee to Russia in 3…2…1

Take the Last Plane To Moscow, Putin’s waiting at the station…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:20:51am

re: #88 Ace-o-aces

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She was a puppet, so Trump would obviously like her.

1972 Swiss Miss Instant Cocoa Mix Commercial

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Dr. Matt  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:21:40am

re: #77 lawhawk

Wait. Wut?

Probably bogus charges….but couldn’t happen to a more deserving and self-righteous asshole.

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Jay C  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:25:09am

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

She was a puppet, so Trump would obviously like her.

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So: “No puppet, you’re the puppet” for realz….?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:26:06am

re: #88 Ace-o-aces

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:26:23am

And the teensy-weensy marshmallows—make those great again too, oh King of Swissland.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:26:44am

Trump makes us all look like idiots.

So infuriating.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:26:58am

Just leaked! Glenn Greenwald’s charming dacha in the picturesque Siberian taiga!

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Teukka  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:27:13am

re: #88 Ace-o-aces

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:29:45am

re the bothsiderism of the press

from The Wire, Season 5, episode 8, a homeless man to the Baltimore Sun editor

A lie ain’t a side of a story. It’s just a lie.

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Jay C  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:30:06am

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump makes us all look like idiots.

So infuriating.

Yeah, but his and his Administration’s policies make us look like marks, so the Davos crowd will just sit, smile, and politely applaud….

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retired cynic  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:30:46am

Parker: Sounds of the Solar Wind (Astronomy Picture of the Day, NASA)

What does the solar wind sound like? A wind of fast moving particles blows out from our Sun, and although space transmits sound poorly, particle impact and variable-field data from NASA’s near-Sun Parker Solar Probe is being translated into sound. The disarming audio track of the featured video recounts several of these reverberations, including spooky-sounding Langmuir Waves (heard first), hurricane-sounding Whistler Mode Waves (heard next), and hard-to-describe Dispersive Chirping Waves (heard last). Also impressive is the video’s time-lapse visual track which shows Parker’s view to the side of its sun shield, and where the planets Earth, Jupiter, Mercury and Venus appear in succession, interspersed with bursts of powerful cosmic rays impacting the imager. The nature of the solar wind near Mercury is surprisingly different from near the Earth, and much study is underway to better understand the differences.

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lizardofid  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:33:37am

re: #93 Joe Bacon 🌹

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My only regret is I have but one up ding to give for the Farfel reference!

Hello everyone!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:34:12am

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Just leaked! Glenn Greenwald’s charming dacha in the picturesque Siberian taiga!

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Is that where Glenn will write his Lara Poems?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:34:59am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:37:41am

re: #103 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Karma is a bitch, isn’t it Glenn?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:37:57am

re: #103 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Man, can’t believe I forgot

“LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL”

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retired cynic  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:38:46am

Important piece by Charlie Pierce concerning McConnell’s “Rules”. I had no idea how much he is f*cking with the evidence. Should not be surprised.

The stage for the farce was set Monday night, when McConnell predictably reneged on months of promises that the impeachment trial would be held according to the rules set by the Senate in 1999 when it considered the case against President Bill Clinton. Instead, McConnell arranged matters so that the trial will be an exercise in accelerated kabuki, something between a Soviet election and a 1930s dance marathon.

esquire.com

Edited.

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retired cynic  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:40:27am

re: #106 retired cynic

Ending paragraph:

Neither Patrick Henry nor James Madison would recognize what is going on in Washington this week. They certainly wouldn’t recognize it as either patriotism or as the workings of a functioning democratic republic. But they would recognize the perils of it, and they would see the foul machinations of illegitimate power beneath the trappings of legislative farce. Those who would destroy self-government must first make it seem ridiculous. We’re more than halfway there.

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Belafon  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:50:39am

re: #107 retired cynic

Ending paragraph:

The job of the majority of the American people is to stay angry at what’s going on. Might be an interesting Amy McGrath ad, more evidence that McConnell is willing to destroy democracy to keep power.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:51:00am

Cute critter break, with some useful info to boot.

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Semper Fi  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:53:55am

re: #103 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Prison in Brazil…what’s not to like?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:54:40am

“King of Swissland” eh? I’ll bet the Swisslanders are really impressed.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:54:50am

I’m sure the charges against Greenwald are bs but man if karma isn’t a bitch.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 21, 2020 • 8:58:46am

re: #112 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m sure the charges against Greenwald are bs but man if karma isn’t a bitch.

They are BS. They are going after him for “publishing” something that was hacked. It’s a fuck you to the press. (Glenn is still a dick)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:00:29am

re: #113 I Would Prefer Not To

They are BS. They are going after him for “publishing” something that was hacked. It’s a fuck you to the press. (Glenn is still a dick)

Yep that’s what I thought.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:01:28am

re: #77 lawhawk

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Wait. Wut?

Hmm. And if I recall correctly Brazil is one of those places with a judicial system where they will put you in prison/custody first and then start carrying out the rest of the process.

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Jay C  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:05:21am

re: #115 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Hmm. And if I recall correctly Brazil is one of those places with a judicial system where they will put you in prison/custody first and then start carrying out the rest of the process.

Or go full Queen of Hearts and commence with the execution….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:05:44am

re: #113 I Would Prefer Not To

They are BS. They are going after him for “publishing” something that was hacked. It’s a fuck you to the press. (Glenn is still a dick)

It may also be due to his sexual orientation.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:06:29am

29 years ago today I was en route to Navy boot camp. I use to be proud of this anniversary. But, Pissboy Donnie has successfully destroyed feeling pride to be an American (at least for me).

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:07:27am

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

It may also be due to his sexual orientation.

I don’t like Glenn, but I really fear for what could happen to him in a Brazilian prison.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:08:18am

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

I don’t like Glenn, but I really fear for what could happen to him in a Brazilian prison.

Yeah I do too. He’s a prick but even pricks have rights.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:09:06am

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

It may also be due to his sexual orientation.

I was going with the “American homosexual is making noise and he’s in Brazil, we can arrest him and figure it all our later” mechanism, too. Bolsonaro being an authoritarian asshole fits the model well.

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lawhawk  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:09:57am

re: #119 Barefoot Grin

And it’s a chilling effect on journalism in Brazil, and Trump would likely see it as something he should try to emulate here in the States.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:10:35am

re: #121 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I was going with the “American homosexual is making noise and he’s in Brazil, we can arrest him and figure it all our later” mechanism, too. Bolsonaro being an authoritarian and asshole fits the model well.

And Glenn’s going to find out that the Trump state department won’t give a fuck about him or do much to help him out. I always thought his arrogance would be his undoing. Appears to be the case here.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:11:15am

re: #122 lawhawk

And it’s a chilling effect on journalism in Brazil, and Trump would likely see it as something he should try to emulate here in the States.

No doubt. Trump probably wish he could do this to his domestic press enemies.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:11:35am

re: #121 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I was going with the “American homosexual is making noise and he’s in Brazil, we can arrest him and figure it all our later” mechanism, too. Bolsonaro being an authoritarian and asshole fits the model well.

Isn’t his husband a politician in Brazil?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:12:03am

re: #123 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And Glenn’s going to find out that the Trump state department won’t give a fuck about him or do much to help him out. I always thought his arrogance would be his undoing. Appears to be the case here.

He let his hatred of Hillary blind him to everything else and he’s getting the karmic retribution for selling his soul to Putin.

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lawhawk  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:12:18am

All Trump does is lie. He can’t help himself. Not a single statistic shows that wealth is getting more diffuse. It’s gotten more concentrated in the past few years, and Trump’s tax scam concentrated it even further.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:12:44am

re: #125 Dr. Matt

Isn’t his husband a politician in Brazil?

Yes, he is. But he may not have much actual power.

129
Barefoot Grin  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:13:05am

re: #125 Dr. Matt

Isn’t his husband a politician in Brazil?

Yeah, that’s the key here.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:13:22am

re: #127 lawhawk

His tax cut was one of the biggest upwards transfer of wealth in the past two decades.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:14:09am

re: #126 Joe Bacon 🌹

He let his hatred of Hillary blind him to everything else and he’s getting the karmic retribution for selling his soul to Putin.

It would be fucking nice if people just admitted they were wrong about her but getting a smug leftist douchebag to admit they’re wrong is like pulling teeth. Greenwald blinded himself about the rise of right wing nationalism and now he might find himself on the receiving end of its ugliness. I feel bad because I do believe in freedom of the press but Glenn I really hope is learning a valuable lesson here about who actually values freedom.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:15:00am

re: #118 Dr. Matt

29 years ago today I was en route to Navy boot camp. I use to be proud of this anniversary. But, Pissboy Donnie has successfully destroyed feeling pride to be an American (at least for me).

be proud of what you did, why you did it, and when.

his bloviating can’t change that

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makeitstop  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:15:33am

Thread.

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:16:23am

re: #127 lawhawk

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All Trump does is lie. He can’t help himself. Not a single statistic shows that wealth is getting more diffuse. It’s gotten more concentrated in the past few years, and Trump’s tax scam concentrated it even further.

well to be fair, they did welfare hand out a lot of money to farmers, and they’re not all rich conglomerates // .5

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lawhawk  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:19:02am

re: #134 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

Socialist bailout.

Yeah, keep that in mind when he said this:

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Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:19:35am

re: #133 makeitstop

Thread.

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this here:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:19:38am

re: #134 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:40:54am

re: #38 HRH Stanley Sea

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:43:22am

re: #25 Teukka

Also Repubs:
*(barely) reads “Maximum number of sheets at a time” sign on shredder*
“Nobody tells me what to do!”
*feeds more than the indicated number of sheets into the shredder*
*shredder jams*

I’ll see myself out…

There are businesses that operate shredding trucks. I’ve long thought they would be an excellent front for the Mafia.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:44:31am

Meanwhile, Glenn Greenwald is complaining because “Trump of the Tropics” Jair Bolsonaro is ginning up a fake criminal case against him, and thugs are threatening to throw him & his husband off rooftops, while tied to chairs.

Sure would be nice if there was an American president who believed in freedom of the press, right?

Sure would be nice if maybe there was a vice-president of the US who didn’t believe that homosexuals are subhumans deserving of extermination, right?

Gee, Glenn. Maybe you were *just a bit* wrong about Hilary? Maybe?

Look for this kind of thing to start happening in Brazil:

Bolsonaro is spinning out of control in Rio, and Greenwald is about to find out how stupid his take on Clinton was.
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Dr. Matt  Jan 21, 2020 • 9:58:31am

re: #140 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Gee, Glenn. Maybe you were *just a bit* wrong about Hilary? Maybe?

And Obama…and Democrats….and everything else. GG farts in a wine glass and sniffs it. He’s smug. A contrarian for the sake of being one. Fuck him.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 21, 2020 • 10:12:17am

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

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