Stunning Finger-Style Virtuosity: Matteo Mancuso, “Havona”

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Hello everyone! This is my new project with Stefano India (Bass) and Giuseppe Bruno (Drums). We had a lot of fun playing this wonderful tune written by the genius Jaco Pastorius. Don’t forget to visit our personal pages! Many thanks to Federico Rizzitello for the video editing :)

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158 comments
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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:13:50pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:14:00pm

It’s raining in NY and the dogs need to go out. And fuck trump.

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SteelPH  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:15:52pm

Fuck Trump.

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calochortus  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:18:09pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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But hey, two hours was all they needed and several senators have said that’s pretty much all they need to acquit Trump, so we’re good.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:18:27pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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There is no transcript. These fucking gaslighting asshole scumbags.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:24:34pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:25:51pm

re: #6 Dread Pirate

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Yep.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:32:18pm

CL’d because of course we’re jumping threads at 15:30 on a Saturday:

re: #115 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

I expect Dianne Feinstein’s seat will be open next election….

re: #117 Chrysicat

Ouch. I almost want to downvote that, though in my head I understand she’s older than even Pelosi…

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:36:53pm

I wasn’t CL’d, but Jeb sure was:
re: #118 Jebediah, RBG

Or racism. (Including environmental racism.)

And even if he were the most progressive, I still wouldn’t support him. His legislative record is nil and his plan for overcoming Congressional resistance to his agenda (“There will be GIANT protests!”) is so childishly naive that it is insulting that he would try to sell it to us as an actual plan. And he certainly hasn’t sold me on him having any foreign policy expertise - which by itself isn’t disqualifying if I can trust that a candidate will have, and listen to, a great Cabinet and other advisors. He comes off as such an obnoxious know-it-all that I am not sure he would listen to qualified advisors.

Giant protests? In this country? We can’t even get 5% of the population blocking the entrance of every open business as the Senate is all-but-literally crowning King Donald!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:40:05pm

re: #9 Chrysicat

I wasn’t CL’d, but Jeb sure was:

Giant protests? In this country? We can’t even get 5% of the population blocking the entrance of every open business as the Senate is all-but-literally crowning King Donald!

My argument is this. You want to do the New Deal 2.0 when we don’t even have a majority in both Houses of Congress and you ignore the courts too. At best, Bernie would look like a lame duck, at worst, he’d be made out to be an uncompromising ideologue. I don’t like that the economic discussion in our country is the way it is either but it is naive of them to expect we’ll turn into Norway because of Bernie.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:40:42pm

re: #117 Chrysicat

Ouch. I almost want to downvote that, though in my head I understand she’s older than even Pelosi…

Dianne Feinstein is 86. She’d be 89 at the beginning of her next term, turning 90 a few months later.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:40:48pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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It really is fortunate for them that Trump’s lawyers are not under oath and thus cannot be brought up on ethics violations, else they’d be facing perjury for continuing to perpetuate the “transcript” BS.

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ericblair  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:46:06pm

re: #5 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There is no transcript. These fucking gaslighting asshole scumbags.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:46:29pm

re: #10 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

My argument is this. You want to do the New Deal 2.0 when we don’t even have a majority in both Houses of Congress and you ignore the courts too. At best, Bernie would look like a lame duck, at worst, he’d be made out to be an uncompromising ideologue. I don’t like that the economic discussion in our country is the way it is either but it is naive of them to expect we’ll turn into Norway because of Bernie.

FDR only got the New Deal enacted because he had supermajorities in both houses of Congress. And even then, he had to make compromises to avoid enough defections to kill his initiatives. And let’s not forget that even after accomplishing that, he still had to face court challenges to much of it.

Only in an optimistic scenario would Bernie have a Senate majority, and even that might require rule changes to the filibuster if he wants to have any hope of passing legislation before his term ends. If he failed to win the Senate, then forget it, he might as well sit in his office and play solitaire.

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Citizen K  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:47:06pm

CL’d as many others were, so…:

re: #108 Jebediah, RBG

Although you are right about which part of your comment is the most important, I take issue with “most progressive candidate in a generation.” Economically progressive, OK, but that isn’t the only measure of “progressive.”

It’s a reminder of just how much contempt they have for that there “Identity Politics”, which is almost always focused on allowing those whose identities have minimized their voice to, you know, actually have a voice. The ones that decry it the most are usually the ones that tend to have their ‘identities’ catered to the most, after all.

And yet, they’re the ones that are the most desperate to take the mantle of ‘civil rights’ all the while dismissing the folks on the ground working for civil rights the most, because they act like it takes focus away from the ‘real’ threat. Like…listen to how many in the trans community have been basically browbeat and told that their concerns must necessarily be trampled for the sake of the ‘big tent’. Especially by those who have gone out of their way to shitkick the entire Dem party for being ‘Republican Lite’ or centrist and having too big a tent.

Not to mention the whataboutism when they bring up Biden and his nostalgia for the olden days of the senate and former segregationist colleagues…you know, like those weren’t heavily called out by the very people calling this shit out. But no, Biden isn’t perfect, Warren isn’t perfect, therefore Sanders must immediately get a pass forever and anon because he is the closet to perfect or some shit.

And it looks like Sanders is actually reaping the rewards of this shit wholesale from the lovefest he’s getting from most mainstream reporters and rising polls. So…fine, fun, fan-fucking-tastic. The marginalized are getting kicked to the side again and stomped back into the corner because fuck it, the votes really don’t matter, do they?

EDIT: Minor typo fix

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:48:37pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:50:04pm

re: #9 Chrysicat

I wasn’t CL’d, but Jeb sure was:

Giant protests? In this country? We can’t even get 5% of the population blocking the entrance of every open business as the Senate is all-but-literally crowning King Donald!

So true, and so obviously true that it really does bother and anger me that Savior Bernie would say it with a straight face.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:50:12pm

re: #16 jaunte

Oops!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:52:10pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

FDR only got the New Deal enacted because he had supermajorities in both houses of Congress. And even then, he had to make compromises to avoid enough defections to kill his initiatives. And let’s not forget that even after accomplishing that, he still had to face court challenges to much of it.

Only in an optimistic scenario would Bernie have a Senate majority, and even that might require rule changes to the filibuster if he wants to have any hope of passing legislation before his term ends. If he failed to win the Senate, then forget it, he might as well sit in his office and play solitaire.

We only have social security as we knew it because FDR had to agree with the Southern Dems to not allow agricultural workers (mostly black) into the program. Meanwhlie Obama gets treated like a Judas by these people because ACA wasn’t expansive enough. Not to mention they attack Obama as a warmonger and ignore FDR’s treatment of the Japanese-Americans during WWII. I think FDR was a great President but using him to shit on modern Democrats really pisses me off because he’s to that circle what Reagan is to Republican, an abstract idea rather than the actual president you describe.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:54:09pm

re: #16 jaunte

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We go to live footage of the Trump team arguing for witnesses:

Sideshow bob stepping on rakes

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:54:41pm

re: #15 Citizen K

CL’d as many others were, so…:

It’s a reminder of just how much contempt they have for that there “Identity Politics”, which is almost always focused on allowing those whose identities have minimized their voice to, you know, actually have a voice. The ones that decry it the most are usually the ones that tend to have their ‘identities’ catered to the most, after all.

And yet, their the ones that are the most desperate to take the mantle of ‘civil rights’ all the while dismissing the folks on the ground working for civil rights the most, because they act like it takes focus away from the ‘real’ threat. Like…listen to how many in the trans community have been basically browbeat and told that their concerns must necessarily be trampled for the sake of the ‘big tent’. Especially by those who have gone out of their way to shitkick the entire Dem party for being ‘Republican Lite’ or centrist and having too big a tent.

Not to mention the whataboutism when they bring up Biden and his nostalgia for the olden days of the senate and former segregationist colleagues…you know, like those weren’t heavily called out by the very people calling this shit out. But no, Biden isn’t perfect, Warren isn’t perfect, therefore Sanders must immediately get a pass forever and anon because he is the closet to perfect or some shit.

And it looks like Sanders is actually reaping the rewards of this shit wholesale from the lovefest he’s getting from most mainstream reporters and rising polls. So…fine, fun, fan-fucking-tastic. The marginalized are getting kicked to the side again and stomped back into the corner because fuck it, the votes really don’t matter, do they?

I just ask calmly this- Senator Sanders has been in Washington since 1990, he’s been in the majority and minority as well as both Houses of Congress, why hasn’t he gotten any of his big ideas passed into law? And if you’re going to blame Congress for that, that’s a shitty excuse. There are other staunch progressives who have gotten their ideas passed into law. The problem with Bernie and his paleo-libertarian twin Ron Paul from 12 years ago is this, neither of them are really actually interested in passing laws. They’re interested in creating an image of themselves alone against a crooked system. And as flawed as Congress is, it’s not what they say it is either. Congress is flawed because of individuals.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:58:34pm

re: #15 Citizen K

And it looks like Sanders is actually reaping the rewards of this shit wholesale from the lovefest he’s getting from most mainstream reporters

That Bernie love-fest you mention feels to me like elements of the press wanting to, AGAIN, put their thumbs on the scale against the Democrats.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:58:37pm

I’ll level. I think Trump’s attorneys have no idea how serious this is and their client even less so. He really has convinced himself because all of the FNC he watches that he’s totally innocent and that he’s done nothing wrong. Not an excuse for him. Hell the total opposite because it speaks to what a lazy piece of shit he is. He’d rather watch Hannity, Jeanne, Fox and Friends, and others appeal to his vanity than actually be President. Trump has and I’ve felt like this from the start acted like a Michael Bay movie’s idea of a President only with even worse screenwriting because I don’t even think a Michael Bay President picks a fight with Denmark over Greenland or contradicts his IC in front of a hostile foreign president (Putin).

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 25, 2020 • 12:59:36pm

re: #20 Targetpractice

OMG. The R’s made the case for the D’s to have witnesses. Remind me to make a list of names of these people and to never hire them.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:00:13pm

re: #22 Jebediah, RBG

That Bernie love-fest you mention feels to me like elements of the press wanting to, AGAIN, put their thumbs on the scale against the Democrats.

I’m really hoping that he implodes in Iowa at this point. But he’s not going to go down easily.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:00:24pm

re: #22 Jebediah, RBG

That Bernie love-fest you mention feels to me like elements of the press wanting to, AGAIN, put their thumbs on the scale against the Democrats.

I characterized it a good while back as the press propping him up for the same reason they did the same to Trump in the summer of ‘15: They don’t see him as a serious contender, they see him as a novelty act that can’t win the nomination and thus will never be a serious challenge in the election itself. So they prop him up for the entertainment value, figuring that having him lighting fires and causing chaos makes for good ratings.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:02:46pm

re: #25 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m really hoping that he implodes in Iowa at this point. But he’s not going to go down easily.

Me too.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:03:27pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

I characterized it a good while back as the press propping him up for the same reason they did the same to Trump in the summer of ‘15: They don’t see him as a serious contender, they see him as a novelty act that can’t win the nomination and thus will never be a serious challenge in the election itself. So they prop him up for the entertainment value, figuring that having him lighting fires and causing chaos makes for good ratings.

Which is kind of why the whole idea that the media “blacks out” Bernie is laughable. Hell if anything, I think more left leaning media over-amplifies him. I got really annoyed with him going on Larry Whitmore a few years ago and talking about how proud he was to be from New York after Ted Cruz made a snide remark about New York. It was like dude, you haven’t lived in New York since the 60’s and you actively dismiss the cultural identities of the people there as “identity politics.” I think that’s what bugs me about AOC, Omar, and Tlaib’s fondness for Bernie. They’re rightfully proud of their cultural backgrounds yet they embrace the bitter old man who tells young people of color not to be proud of that and try to be the first of their group to be something.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:05:04pm

re: #24 PhillyPretzel

OMG. The R’s made the case for the D’s to have witnesses. Remind me to make a list of names of these people and to never hire them.

Not to worry, I’m sure before this is all said and done, they’ll be out there shouting “We meant there should have been cross-examination in the House! IN THE HOUSE! YOU CAN’T HAVE THAT IN THE SENATE!!!”

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makeitstop  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:05:14pm

Man, that kid is good. I can’t even play that fast with a pick.

And that Yamaha RevStar sounds really nice, too (I believe he’s a Yamaha endorsee). Wish I could see what he’s playing through.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:05:31pm

re: #27 Jebediah, RBG

Me too.

I think so many white left wingers have no idea that Bernie Sanders has a lot of Trump in his personality and we should not be wanting that in our nominee. Biden bugs me but Biden I can’t see going on a tirade against Congressmen who don’t treat him like a savior. Biden has an everyman touch that Bernie wishes he had.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:06:06pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

Having trmp as president isn’t a shitty enough outcome to make the reconsider their fucked up priorities.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:06:30pm

By the way, how do I know that the press seems Bernie as a novelty act rather than as a serious contender? Because as soon as the latest debate ended, they were whining that their efforts to spark a fight between him and the other contenders had failed.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:07:47pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Probably. This reminds me of the same inept attorneys that were thrown out of a courtroom because they were challenging a law on principle and not on the facts at hand. And that was to support DT.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:08:54pm

re: #32 Jebediah, RBG

Having trmp as president isn’t a shitty enough outcome to make the reconsider their fucked up priorities.

The media treats this as if it’s a game at times which is why I find the fact that Trumpers hate on the MSM almost amusing. If the media had treated Trump like the empty suit he was in 2015-6 instead of treating his candidacy seriously, he doesn’t get much anywhere. Yeah maybe he still does win the GOP nomination but he’s not treated like a serious candidate. Nominate a woman with Trump’s resume and baggage and tell me how she does. Trump is a byproduct of lingering sexism and racism. Whereas Obama and HRC had to work extra hard to prove themselves as serious candidates, Trump has these pathetic rallies where he goes off on random tangents about bizarre bullshit and the crowds eat it up.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:09:18pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

By the way, how do I know that the press seems Bernie as a novelty act rather than as a serious contender? Because as soon as the latest debate ended, they were whining that their efforts to spark a fight between him and the other contenders had failed.

They so wanted him and Warren at each other’s throats.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:11:16pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:15:34pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

You would think that they would have learned the lesson after the fauxrage about Nadler’s comments but no. Meanwhile Trump again is doing his childish name calling from his Twitter toilet safe space where Sean Hannity’s soothing voice helps his angry shits come out.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:19:26pm

And Then The Saints Came Marching In (goes to Wonkette, more at the link):

In 2018, the Archdiocese of New Orleans released the names of more than 50 clergy members credibly accuse of sexually abusing children. But before doing that, they emailed the owners and management of the New Orleans Saints football team for advice on how to manage the crisis. As one does.

Now, attorneys representing the two dozen men suing the archdiocese want to release those 276 emails, which they say prove that the Saints helped the archdiocese with their messaging, and aided in a “pattern and practice of concealing its crimes,” and the Saints are taking them to court to prevent this.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:20:23pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:26:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:28:10pm

re: #40 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Bernie’s GND is just inadequate to address AGW, as are nearly all proposals. It’s a political gimmick.

That’s the sad bottom line, isn’t it. It’s the most radical proposal on the table, and it’s not even close to being enough.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:31:45pm

re: #35 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The media treats this as if it’s a game

Which they are comfortable with because they, personally, will be OK either way. No concern whatever for those who suffer real harm from, for example, a trmp presidency.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:32:28pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Yeah fuck Rogan’s bullshit.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:33:18pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:35:28pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

I remember Romney smiling all smug before the details of Benghazi came out that Ambassador Stevens and the other three men had been killed. He was convinced that this was going to be his ticket to the WH. Turned out it was Trump’s since the Benghazi blame game got her. Meanwhile we haven’t even had an investigation over the action in Niger that got a few of our troops killed and also revealed John Kelly even more for being an ugly man.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:35:43pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

That old story?? The publisher admitted they made a fucking mistake when they printed the book.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:35:48pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:36:35pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:37:36pm

re: #35 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The media treats this as if it’s a game at times which is why I find the fact that Trumpers hate on the MSM almost amusing. If the media had treated Trump like the empty suit he was in 2015-6 instead of treating his candidacy seriously, he doesn’t get much anywhere. Yeah maybe he still does win the GOP nomination but he’s not treated like a serious candidate. Nominate a woman with Trump’s resume and baggage and tell me how she does. Trump is a byproduct of lingering sexism and racism. Whereas Obama and HRC had to work extra hard to prove themselves as serious candidates, Trump has these pathetic rallies where he goes off on random tangents about bizarre bullshit and the crowds eat it up.

like i said a few threads ago

in 2015 they saw a reality show they didnt have to produce themselves; or fund.
they figured there would be a big payoff for them - clicks, eyeballs, papers, whatever
there was
and now, somewhat like frankenstein, they dont know how to cancel it

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:38:44pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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republicans offended when called out for what they are in fact, doing.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:39:34pm

re: #35 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

One strange thing he’s begun doing is referring to himself “coming down the escalator” as if it was some kind of world-historical sealed train moment.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:39:42pm

re: #44 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah fuck Rogan’s bullshit.

His follow-up tweet to that is here:
archive.is

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:41:04pm

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Oy. And many people will believe him over the facts.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:41:09pm

re: #40 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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science isnt based on popularity

even the argument “overwhelming numbers of scientists believe in global warming” etc is an incredibly bad one

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:42:44pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:43:51pm

re: #53 Anymouse 🌹🎃

His follow-up tweet to that is here:
archive.is

I believe fuck him and his bullsht was pretty clear, he’s also a guy who thought it was a lawl to tweet about being in a predominately African-American theater audience and to tweet about how it was Planet of the Apes. Really fuck edgelord douche humor.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:46:42pm

re: #56 Chrysicat

I wonder if they would have if they knew that he thinks LGBT isseus are just a “distraction.” Those are his words not mine that he uses to tell minority communities of all backgrounds that they should shut up to make the white working class he hasn’t been a part of my entire life feel comfortable. A lot of admirable people have endorsed Bernie, I don’t deny that. What I do feel is that Bernie wouldn’t lead on LGBT rights globally because as I said he thinks it’s a “distraction.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:50:06pm

Bernie has been a Russian asset since way back when Republicans still hated the Kremlin.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:50:14pm

re: #58 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

. What I do feel is that Bernie wouldn’t lead on LGBT rights globally because as I said he thinks it’s a “distraction.”

I am guessing that the actual humans involved would not agree that their lives and rights are a “distraction.”

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:51:05pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:52:26pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:53:29pm

re: #60 Jebediah, RBG

I am guessing that the actual humans involved would not agree that their lives and rights are a “distraction.”

I’m ONE OF THEM by virtue of only being alive because I finally gave in and initiated transition when it looked like we’d be able to be stealth, and equal rights, under even Republicans.

I certainly don’t agree that we need to go to the metaphorical back of the bus. Though I think straight PoC are better off than we are this time, which I guess is a little better than the last time this happened since I still deserve to lie in the bed my white ancestors made for me?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:53:57pm

re: #60 Jebediah, RBG

I am guessing that the actual humans involved would not agree that their lives and rights are a “distraction.”

That’s my problem with Bernie when push comes to shove. Economic rights- the right to organize, affordable health care, etc are ones we should fight for and I’m honestly tehre with him on that but he also dismisses choice, LGBT rights, immigrant rights, etc as a “distraction. It’s very egotistical of a 80 year old white man from Vermont to do that. Bernie Sanders’ family doesn’t have to worry about ICE or some bigoted jackass denying them a service under the guise of “religious liberty.”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:55:44pm

re: #49 Chrysicat

There really are some wilfully obtuse people on Twitter, aren’t there?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:57:19pm

re: #63 Chrysicat

I’m ONE OF THEM by virtue of only being alive because I finally gave in and initiated transition when it looked like we’d be able to be stealth, and equal rights, under even Republicans.

I certainly don’t agree that we need to go to the metaphorical back of the bus. Though I think straight PoC are better off than we are this time, which I guess is a little better than the last time this happened since I still deserve to lie in the bed my white ancestors made for me?

I’m a straight white dude- on the ASD so I don’t know where I fall but being on the spectrum has given me an empathy for marginalized groups because I know if I weren’t a SWD, I would definitely struggle. Hell life can be a challenge even as an affluent SWD on the spectrum but I would never tell you that your civil rights and your desire, the universal desire to live the happiest life you can are a mere “distraction” and that’s the one thing that the new left does that drives me bonkers. I’m sympathetic to leftist economic reform. Hell I even defend Marx even though I’m not a Marxist since I think ignorant people confuse Marxism with Leninism but civil rights and the people who want to take them away aren’t “distractions.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:57:34pm

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🎃

There really are some wilfully obtuse people on Twitter, aren’t there?

The world as a whole.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:58:04pm

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🎃

There really are some wilfully obtuse people on Twitter, aren’t there?

Not just on Twitter. They’ll swarm you on Facebook if you diss St. Bernie!

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:59:51pm

re: #62 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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- corporations are people too, my friend
- we’ve established what he is, we’re just arguing over the price
- if you’re not buying, then what is your $20 doing?

large contributions buy access
small ones don’t. if you think bernie is listening to you for your $20, well….

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 25, 2020 • 1:59:57pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:00:18pm

re: #63 Chrysicat

I certainly don’t agree that we need to go to the metaphorical back of the bus

Nor be treated as an ignorable abstraction. To me that betrays a lack of human empathy, which I expect from Trump but not from someone wanting the D nomination.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:00:29pm

re: #64 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Berners have become single-issue voters, but the single-issue is about the cult of Bernie.

On healthcare - Berners act like Democrats have not fought for subsidizing healthcare for the masses, when it’s been a Democratic party policy since the time of Truman to make health care available to all.

On “the climate” - Bernie is no better than any other politician who gives lip service to AGW but has not made any effective laws the past several decades.

On societal divisions - Bernie more than several of the other candidates seems out of place when discussing how different minorities are disenfranchised in the various ways that our society has set up.

On guns - Bernie is among the least willing to confront the gun-cult.

This idea that Bernie is the great leader of progressivism in this county is laughable.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:00:47pm

re: #68 Joe Bacon 🌹

Not just on Twitter. They’ll swarm you on Facebook if you diss St. Bernie!

I’m kind of grateful though to Bernie in a funny sense. I’m left wing, proud of it, but not to the point where I’ll overlook faults by a left wing candidate. So, I thank Bernie and the bros for showing me that even fi that was never their intention. I’d still vote for him over Trump but we could and we will do better. I don’t like bashing the guy but when his supporters bash men and women who have spent their adult lives trying to impact positive change because they have some skepticism towards Bernie, then you’ve made an enemy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:01:41pm

re: #72 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Berners have become single-issue voters, but the single-issue is about the cult of Bernie.

On healthcare - Berners act like Democrats have not fought for subsidizing healthcare for the masses, when it’s been a Democratic party policy since the time of Truman to make health care available to all.

On “the climate” - Bernie is no better than any other politician who gives lip service to AGW but has not made any effective laws the past several decades.

On societal divisions - Bernie more than several of the other candidates seems out of place when discussing how different minorities are disenfranchised in the various ways that our society has set up.

On guns - Bernie is among the least willing to confront the gun-cult.

This idea that Bernie is the great leader of progressivism in this county is laughable.

You nailed it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:02:22pm

Bernie puts the LEAD in “LEAD-er”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:04:01pm

re: #71 Jebediah, RBG

Nor be treated as an ignorable abstraction. To me that betrays a lack of human empathy, which I expect from Trump but not from someone wanting the D nomination.

I’ll grant Bernie that he has never voted to actively limit LGBT rights as far as I know but I have seen him dismiss concerns. He does it with abortion rights too.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:07:02pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

PBS has this information. I hope they run it over and over and over …
:)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:07:07pm

moron

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:07:53pm

re: #76 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’ll grant Bernie that he has never voted to actively limit LGBT rights as far as I know but I have seen him dismiss concerns. He does it with abortion rights too.

In that same thread is a Bernie supporter (probably Republican since they use the slur “Democrat”) touting a faked poll claiming the overwhelming majority of Democrats want abortion restricted to saving the life of a woman or to incest, along with several foetus pictures.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:08:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:08:05pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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LOL

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:08:17pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

Whining about the judiciary during his impeachment trial. Great look but don’t Schiff dare quote an article, that hurts Republican senators fee fees.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:08:46pm

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🎃

In that same thread is a Bernie supporter (probably Republican since they use the slur “Democrat”) touting a faked poll claiming the overwhelming majority of Democrats want abortion restricted to saving the life of a woman or to incest, along with several foetus pictures.

I have no idea. And yes that’s bullshit.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:10:36pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

Okay wake me when the simulation ends, I’m going for a walk then grabbing some dinner.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:11:46pm

ooops

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:16:35pm

WATCH: Full video of Trump appearing to say Ukraine ambassador should be removed
pbs.org

Caution, vomit-inducing sycophancy.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:18:55pm

Trump on cannabis: “It does cause an IQ problem.”

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:21:33pm

re: #87 jaunte

Trump on cannabis: “It does cause an IQ problem.”

Oh, lord. He’s going to send Feebs and DEA agents at every dispensary in the West this week.
There’s no other reason you volunteer something like that.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:21:48pm

Parnas: “Pam (Bondi) is fantastic.”

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:22:25pm

Background voice: .”..gateway drug…”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:22:40pm

re: #88 Chrysicat

Oh, lord. He’s going to send Feebs and DEA agents at every dispensary in the West this week.

Why would he do that? He loves low-IQ voters.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:25:22pm

None of this conversation is about concerns of the nation.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:27:11pm

Unidentified female suckup: “You were the only one who could have won against her!” (Hillary Clinton).
Trump: “I beat the Bush dynasty!”

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retired cynic  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:27:39pm

re: #93 jaunte

Unidentified female suckup: “You were the only one who could have won against her!” (Hillary Clinton).
Trump: “I beat the Bush dynasty!”

gag me

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:27:53pm

Parnas “That’s right, it’s two dynasties he took out.”
Trump: “Crooked Hillary.”

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:28:39pm

Trump: “Obama would have been easier, second term.”

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:32:44pm

Oh, didn’t realise Jaunte was just liveblogging their listen of the hitman tape.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:34:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:35:49pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:37:36pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

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Oh if someone would hit Ginger Snapped with a SLAPP action…

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:37:46pm
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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:38:15pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:38:38pm

re: #102 jaunte

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Every one!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:41:10pm

Lre: #101 jaunte

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Made it to my walk site but then saw that PBS got the vid. Holy shit. I bet Mar Al Lago is an intelligence agent’s playground.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:41:13pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:45:24pm

re: #101 jaunte

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:46:47pm

re: #106 Chrysicat

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As I said, the so called deep state are some of the most genuinely patriotic people out there. Yovanovitch is one of em as is Colonel Vindman.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:49:50pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:49:51pm

OK, I’m seriously starting to expect a volcano to form on or near the island

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:51:16pm

On people going after the disabled for using plastic straws, a funny and informative takedown. [7:05]

What’s Wrong With Reusable Straws? [CC]

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:51:21pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I’m seriously starting to expect a volcano to form on or near the island

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They should totally impeach their President.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:54:51pm

I really think Trump just makes shit up about how great he is and attributes it to random Republicans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:56:17pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 2:59:00pm

re: #107 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

As I said, the so called deep state are some of the most genuinely patriotic people out there. Yovanovitch is one of em as is Colonel Vindman.

Of course, the very disturbing corollary is that anyone who served under Trump may well be an agent for a Werwolf-type of Deep State in their own right.

And that it would both be unfair to fire everyone upon the new admin, because that would punish any members of the Constitutional Deep State, and at the same time risky to have anyone, even Obama-era holdovers, continue on, because we wouldn’t know if their loyalties had shifted to their last boss.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:02:13pm

re: #114 Chrysicat

Of course, the very disturbing corollary is that anyone who served under Trump may well be an agent for a Werwolf-type of Deep State in their own right.

And that it would both be unfair to fire everyone upon the new admin, because that would punish any members of the Constitutional Deep State, and at the same time risky to have anyone, even Obama-era holdovers, continue on, because we wouldn’t know if their loyalties had shifted to their last boss.

Yeah it’s tough. Trump really has created a dysfunctional executive branch.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:03:22pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:04:29pm

re: #116 jaunte

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It really is a fucking cult.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:04:40pm

Evening Lizardim. What’s new among the lizardfolk on this mild and cloudy Saturday?

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:04:58pm

re: #117 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Using the Drumpf spelling probably screws it all up.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:05:52pm
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BigPapa  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:08:11pm

I got Bernie supporting friends on Facebook in denial about Talibern.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:08:31pm

re: #119 jaunte

Using the Drumpf spelling probably screws it all up.

Having a German surname, I empathize, my last name makes horses scared so you can imagine how my Great Nanna, daughter of a blacksmith felt when she married my Great Granddad.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:10:04pm

re: #122 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Having a German surname, I empathize, my last name makes horses scared so you can imagine how my Great Nanna, daughter of a blacksmith felt when she married my Great Granddad.

Your last name is “Blücher”? But why would you want to advertise that in public when pseudonyms are safest online? (Only half-kidding)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:11:47pm

re: #123 Chrysicat

Your last name is “Blücher”? But why would you want to advertise that in public when pseudonyms are safest online? (Only half-kidding)

It’s actually something else. But there was a family legend that our name means glue. Plus my grandfather’s maternal grandmother did look like Frau Boucher. We have her photo in the hallway. Oldest born ancestor I have a photo of.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:17:28pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:18:07pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Keep up the pressure Senator.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:18:17pm

re: #124 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s actually something else. But there was a family legend that our name means glue. Plus my grandfather’s maternal grandmother did look like Frau Boucher. We have her photo in the hallway. Oldest born ancestor I have a photo of.

A running joke in my family is our Polish name translates to “Smith” in English. (It does not.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:19:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:19:38pm

re: #126 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Keep up the pressure Senator.

If one Democrat voted with the Republicans, the press would charaterise it as “bipartisan.”

If one (or four) Republicans voted with the Democrats, the press would call them “moderates” or “rebels.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:20:23pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:20:49pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I’d love to see vets turn on him in masse.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:21:32pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This VFW member has always known the GOP doesn’t care about us (or active duty and reservists).

I don’t get why so many veterans today think they do.

That said, the latest print edition of Navy Times shows Trump is upside-down in polling of active duty personnel.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:21:43pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹🎃

If one Democrat voted with the Republicans, the press would charaterise it as “bipartisan.”

If one (or four) Republicans voted with the Democrats, the press would call them “moderates” or “rebels.”

Shit, they get called moderates for considering witnesses.

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retired cynic  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:21:54pm

re: #107 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

As I said, the so called deep state are some of the most genuinely patriotic people out there. Yovanovitch is one of em as is Colonel Vindman.

Yes, but those folks he told to take her out weren’t very good at it, since she was finally removed by the State Department a year later. Now maybe they found some people who were good at it, and that is why the SD moved? Or maybe they used the threat to her safety as an excuse to bring her home.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:23:13pm

re: #134 retired cynic

Yes, but those folks he told to take her out weren’t very good at it, since she was finally removed by the State Department a year later. Now maybe they found some people who were good at it, and that is why the SD moved? Or maybe they used the threat to her safety as an excuse to bring her home.

I dunno but I’ve applied for the State Department before for work. I’m relieved I didn’t get in now.

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Disloyal Archangel  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:24:06pm

re: #116 jaunte

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:30:33pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:37:04pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’re great dogs.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:38:39pm
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Disloyal Archangel  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:39:40pm

re: #136 Disloyal Archangel

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You folks know what else has a value of 424 in Jewish Gematria?
“Dollar Collapse” (4+50+20+20+1+80, 3+50+20+20+1+60+90+5), “Death Stalker” (4+5+1+100+8, 90+100+1+20+10+5+80), and “A Dead Putin” (1, 4+5+1+4, 60+200+100+9+40).

Also, to my surprise, Neosporin (40+5+50+90+60+50+80+9+40).

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:40:53pm

re: #140 Disloyal Archangel

You folks know what else has a value of 424 in Jewish Gematria?
“Dollar Collapse” (4+50+20+20+1+80, 3+50+20+20+1+60+90+5), “Death Stalker” (4+5+1+100+8, 90+100+1+20+10+5+80), and “A Dead Putin” (1, 4+5+1+4, 60+200+100+9+40).

Also, Neosporin (40+5+50+90+60+50+80+9+40).

All hail President Neosporin Dollar Collapse, she is in line with prophecy.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:42:07pm
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Disloyal Archangel  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:48:45pm

re: #140 Disloyal Archangel

Seems I missed Skittles (90+10+9+100+100+20+5+90).

That’s coding for you, even in ancient form - fits however you want it to…

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:50:48pm

I know where Greg Abbott isn’t!

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:51:26pm

China coronavirus: Misinformation about origin spreads online (Goes to BBC Monitoring, their foreign-language monitoring service)

Conspiracy theorists and anti-vaccination campaigners have been spreading misinformation on the English-language internet about the origin of the deadly coronavirus that has hit China and recently spread to the US.

At the heart of the claims being circulated on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube lies the false claim that the virus - which causes severe lung disease - is not new, but a known strain of the virus that is now being spread deliberately.

In fact, these conspiracies are based on patents relating to existing strains that are part of the wider coronavirus family, but have nothing to do with that currently spreading in China.

(more)

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 3:59:22pm

re: #102 jaunte

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Dread Pirate  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:00:36pm
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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:00:46pm

re: #146 Chrysicat

Close friends like Saudi Arabia!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:03:10pm
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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:08:28pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:09:50pm

re: #150 jaunte

And, the preceding tweet

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:10:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:14:01pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:18:32pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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And of course, he prolly also despises capitalism yet hijacks a condolence thread to sell a sort-of novel.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:20:54pm

re: #152 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Basically, Iowa’s only state-wide newspaper (it’s one of those regional newspapers of old that has a rather notable history, but alas is still succumbing to digital age.)

Watch the Berners trash the DMR now.

To me Warren has some baggage, but on the whole is pretty straight forward as a Democratic candidate. But I am not only a cynic but a pessimist, and I remain to be convinced that the America which is but a few elections away from A Handmaid’s Tale, will openly welcome Warren.

Which is why Biden and even Bernie are polling as good as they are. If Warren was male she would be far ahead of them.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:26:27pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:02:22pm

re: #156 goddamnedfrank

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So Rudy let a spy into the President’s inner circle. Yeah let’s re-elect that guy with his impeccable judgment.//

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:51:24pm

re: #154 Chrysicat

And of course, he prolly also despises capitalism yet hijacks a condolence thread to sell a sort-of novel.

What a douchecanoe.

Lack of industry would not be able to solve such a problem as a disease outbreak.


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