R&B From Britain: Jordan Rakei: Tiny Desk Concert [VIDEO]

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Watch Jordan Rakei play “Say Something”, “Mind’s Eye”, “Talk To Me” and “Speak” at the Tiny Desk.

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Jan. 13, 2020 | Suraya Mohamed — Sometimes, things don’t go smoothly at the Tiny Desk. After traveling all night, the soulful R&B artist Jordan Rakei and his band pulled up to NPR in their tour bus at the crack of dawn, only to find the Fender Rhodes we’d rented for him didn’t have the right action. But after quickly ordering a replacement (that arrived moments before the Tiny Desk performance started), Rakei and his band locked-in and played a phenomenal set.

The band opened with “Say Something,” from the group’s 2019 album, Origin. It’s a song that encourages people to take action and speak up for themselves. They followed with “Mind’s Eye,” a commentary on technology that questions whether advancements are always a good idea. After playing “Talk To Me,” from the group’s 2016 debut album, Cloak, they returned to their most recent release to close with “Speak,” a reflective song with a beautiful solo piano accompaniment. Inspired by the TV show and book The Handmaid’s Tale, it imagines a world where nuclear war has left half the women infertile, as technology runs amok.

Despite the sometimes dystopian themes in his music, Rakei’s sound is easygoing and colorful. While steady grooves connect his singular blend of jazz and R&B, his tight chord voicings, compelling rhythms and mesmerizing vocals make for a wonderful performance.

SET LIST
“Say Something”
“Mind’s Eye”
“Talk To Me”
“Speak”

MUSICIANS
Jordan Rakei: vocals, keys; Jim Macrae: drums; Ernesto Marichales: percussion; Jonathan Harvey: bass; Imraan Paleker: guitar; Linda Diaz: vocals; Sam Wills: vocals; Opal Hoyt: vocals

CREDITS
Producers: Suraya Mohamed, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative director: Bob Boilen; Audio engineers: Josh Rogosin, Natasha Branch; Editor: Jack Corbett; Videographers: Bronson Arcuri, Jack Corbett, Morgan Noelle Smith, Maia Stern; Associate Producer: Bobby Carter; Executive producer: Lauren Onkey; VP, programming: Anya Grundmann; Photo: Mhari Shaw/NPR

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:22:13pm

(from downstairs)

re: #152 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Basically, Iowa’s only state-wide newspaper (it’s one of those regional newspapers of old that has a rather notable history, but alas is still succumbing to digital age.)

Watch the Berners trash the DMR now.

To me Warren has some baggage, but on the whole is pretty straight forward as a Democratic candidate. But I am not only a cynic but a pessimist, and I remain to be convinced that the America which is but a few elections away from A Handmaid’s Tale, will openly welcome Warren.

Which is why Biden and even Bernie are polling as good as they are. If Warren was male … she (er, he) would be far ahead of them.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:25:04pm

Don’t know if I’ll re-post my rant about a Luddite here or not. Your call.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:28:57pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:29:46pm

re: #3 Chrysicat

It’s not like she’s wrong…

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:31:05pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:32:38pm

I see the bots are pushing #VotingForBernie on Twitter and those suckers are having a fit because the Des Moines Register endorsed Elizabeth.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:34:46pm

Not that anybody cares that much but I’m pretty close to endorsing Elizabeth Warren myself. Out of this whole slate of Democrats TBH she’s the one I’d really like to see as president.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:38:40pm
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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:40:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:41:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:46:02pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:46:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:48:04pm
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Dread Pirate  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:50:08pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:54:34pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes it will be the biggest case of Athletes Tongue the world has ever seen. Or would it be better to say that if DT’s people keep shooting themselves in the foot.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:55:36pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump also tells the assembled guests that it is “ridiculous” and “wrong” that he can’t hold political fundraisers inside the White House, saying it would save the government money compared to driving him the four blocks to his hotel.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:56:32pm

PowerBall drawing tonight for a big jackpot. Sales have been quite slow, but no one has won the jackpot in a few months so the pile is growing bigger.

Not quite to real money yet… but the expected return is about 50 cents on the dollar. Of course the median return is zero… but let’s not dwell on that.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:57:21pm

re: #17 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I didn’t play. :(

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:58:35pm

Bros still bro-ing on Imani’s thread:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 4:58:39pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He can move to Russia then.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:00:13pm

re: #17 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

PowerBall drawing tonight for a big jackpot. Sales have been quite slow, but no one has won the jackpot in a few months so the pile is growing bigger.

Not quite to real money yet… but the expected return is about 50 cents on the dollar. Of course the median return is zero… but let’s not dwell on that.

I picked up a couple of tickets. I buy tickets every once in a while then daydream about what I’d do with the money for a bit.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:00:52pm

One thing that is common is called the gambler’s fallacy. This is where one thinks a certain number/event/card has to come up because it is “due”. Or if something has come up too often then it will have to rest somehow.

The lottery drawings are easy counter examples to show why that fallacy is indeed counter productive. Numbers repeat, or don’t show up, for long stretches.

Remember that as you play to win that big jackpot.

re: #18 PhillyPretzel

I didn’t play. :(

You still have a couple of hours to go out and get a ticket!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:01:41pm

re: #22 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Not in my neighborhood. :(

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Teddy's Person  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:02:16pm

Here’s a threaded recap of the Parnas tape. Trump sounds like he’s giving a private Nuremberg Rally.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:03:33pm

re: #22 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One thing that is common is called the gambler’s fallacy. This is where one thinks a certain number/event/card has to come up because it is “due”. Or if something has come up too often then it will have to rest somehow.

And this is why roulette tables have those digital boards that show the results of the last 30 spins. “Eight blacks in a row??!! Well red has to come up this time, right??!! $5000 on red!!!”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:03:58pm

BTW, you can sort of apply the gambler’s fallacy to elections and society too.

In other words, one should not presume that something has to happen if it hasn’t in a long time, or that something can’t happen again because it has already occurred.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:05:37pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:06:28pm

re: #25 Ace Rothstein

And this is why roulette tables have those digital boards that shows the results of the last 30 spins. “Eight blacks in a row??!! Well red has to come up this time , right??!! $5000 on red!!!”

Lottery scams, e.g. on twitter, really push “hot” or “cold” as qualities of numbers.

But the numbers are neither hot or cold.

Now, I am not certain if we can ever prove the randomness of any event. We often just presume randomness. The Lottery draws may not in fact be random, and we only presume them to be so. There have been over the years so called tests of randomness, but those are attempts to come to grasp with what is inherently a difficult problem.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:07:15pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:08:24pm

I’m going to hate myself after this but I’m going ot listen to the entire Parnas recording.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:09:14pm

re: #30 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m going to hate myself after this but I’m going ot listen to the entire Parnas recording.

Good luck, my friend.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:09:54pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:10:18pm

re: #30 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Do you have steel brushes ready?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:10:53pm

re: #33 Ace Rothstein

Do you have steel brushes ready?

I’ve got a green friend.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:11:03pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:11:55pm

re: #25 Ace Rothstein

And this is why roulette tables have those digital boards that shows the results of the last 30 spins. “Eight blacks in a row??!! Well red has to come up this time , right??!! $5000 on red!!!”

The gambler’s fallacy is so weird to wrap your brain around. On the one hand, the likelihood of 9 blacks in a row is improbably small, but… on the other hand, as an independent event, the odds of red vs. black literally do not change from spin to spin. It seems like there should be some aggregate probability that a red would come up “soon” that increases with every black that lands, but there really isn’t.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:12:27pm

I believe Pompeo is a true sociopath, an extremely intelligent man who has the ethics of a hyena. He has been associated with the Koch empire since he was in his 20s and with the Tea Party movement since its foundation.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:14:12pm

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Pompeo is an evil motherfucker.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:14:55pm

re: #37 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I believe Pompeo is a true sociopath, an extremely intelligent man who has the ethics of a hyena. He has been associated with the Koch empire since he was in his 20s and with the Tea Party movement since its foundation.

It’s foolish to think all these guys are dumb. I know it’s fun to laugh at them and Trump I definitely do laugh at but there’s definitely some genuinely intelligent people that are part of this.

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JC1  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:15:43pm

Romney claims to likely be a yes vote on witnesses.
thehill.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:15:52pm

Bunch of jackasses laughing at the fact we had to defend South Korea from North Korea. Trump compares them negatively to China.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:16:17pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Interesting Times  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:16:37pm

👀

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:17:29pm

maybe it’s Pompeo who doesn’t know the difference between Ukraine and Bangladesh on a map…

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:17:30pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:18:24pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

maybe it’s Pompeo who doesn’t know the difference between Ukraine and Bangladesh on a map…

Probably Trump since his map of the world has Russia where Ukraine is. What a bizarrely pompous things to say.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:19:01pm

Okay, at least one of these guys is a businessman since he’s complaining about the WTO and saying as a busienssman. Haven’t heard Lev yet though.

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BigPapa  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:19:32pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:23:06pm

Calls EU worse than China.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:23:16pm

re: #48 BigPapa

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PM Pompeo: It’s worth noting Mr. Rogers Neighborhood is not Sesame Street.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:23:21pm

European Union: “We’re all sort of from there.”

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:23:24pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Not that anybody cares that much but I’m pretty close to endorsing Elizabeth Warren myself. Out of this whole slate of Democrats TBH she’s the one I’d really like to see as president.

That’s what I keep coming back to.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:23:33pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:24:05pm

Guys, this is basically meet your oligarchs the American edition.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:24:31pm

“The threat to America is from people who deeply believe that Islam is the way and the light and the only answer.” “They abhor Christians and will continue to press against us until we make sure that we pray and stand and fight and make sure we know that Jesus Christ as our savior is truly the only solution for our world.” -Mike Pompeo, 2014.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:24:43pm

re: #53 Chrysicat

Literally every black person I have talked to openly enough to discuss the issue with, has told me that the N-word is reserved for black people talking to each other. If a white person says it, it is an epic social faux pas.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:25:29pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:25:44pm

re: #56 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s also said differently than how white people say it. A huge difference.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:26:03pm

re: #43 Interesting Times

With or without the ball-gag

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:26:14pm

re: #58 Ace Rothstein

It’s also said differently than white people say it. A huge difference.

That’s something that is never mentioned.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:26:19pm

re: #56 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Thus my response. Along with a suspicion that his pic is stock and that he’s paid in roubles.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:26:39pm

re: #40 JC1

Romney claims to likely be a yes vote on witnesses.
thehill.com

Tell me McConnell isn’t strategically letting a couple of senators go, knowing he’s still holding one or two in reserve to get 51-49 against witnesses, even if he can’t get 53-47.

Romney and Collins vote yes, while Murkowski clutches her pearls over being “offended” last night by Schiff and votes no.

(And what happens in this case on a 50-50 tie? Can Pence still break it?)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:26:54pm

re: #58 Ace Rothstein

It’s also said differently than white people say it. A huge difference.

Exactly.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:26:54pm

Trump really really does not like the South Korean government.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:27:09pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:27:13pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:27:22pm

re: #62 i(m)p(each)sos

No. 50-50 means no witnesses.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:27:57pm

re: #64 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Trump really really does not like the South Korean government.

They didn’t pay him enough.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:28:39pm

re: #66 Patricia Kayden

Be careful Rep Demmings, you’re going to get a lot of white guys that tell you, a former law enforcement officer that you don’t understand this. I really like Rep Demmings. I’d seriously look at her down the road to run against Rubio or Scott in Florida statewide or maybe even challenge DeSantis if she wants an executive spot.

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retired cynic  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:28:50pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lindsay telling us what country we have to be for him to stay? Well. Bye!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:29:41pm

re: #70 retired cynic

Lindsay telling us what country we have to be for him to stay? Well. Bye!

It was like when Rush threatened to leave if Obamacare passed. Bye.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:29:46pm

re: #68 jaunte

They didn’t pay him enough.

Trump Tower Pyongyang apparently didn’t pan out.

Edit: Misread North Korea instead of South Korea.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:30:05pm

Galaxy brain David Brooks says that Trump can’t be accused of interfering with the 2020 election because the election hasn’t happened yet.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:30:33pm

Okay, he talks to some guy whose business is in making material for the wall on this.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:30:39pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:31:55pm

re: #73 Ace Rothstein

Galaxy brain David Brooks says that Trump can’t be accused of interfering with the 2020 election because the election hasn’t happened yet.

Someone missed that Trump immediately filed for re-election not long after he got inaugurated. He’s had an official 2020 campaign manager for longer than he ever had a 2016 one.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:32:43pm

What’s with these British liberals and their anti-trans thing? It’s really weird.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:32:55pm

re: #64 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Trump really really does not like the South Korean government.

bet he can’t find it on a map

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:33:27pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet you he can find North Korea on a map.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:34:20pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

Yeah, J.K. Rowling really threw me for a loop with her homophobic tweet. Not sure what’s going on over there.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:34:43pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

What’s with these British liberals and their anti-trans thing? It’s really weird.

Other than Rawling, who else are we talking? I really don’t get it either but I’m not really surprised. I’ve met some people on the left side of the ideological spectrum who are generally socially liberal but are creepily anti-trans. Live and let live I say. Who the hell am I to tell you that you have no right to be comfortable in the gender you feel you are.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:35:11pm

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

Yeah, J.K. Rowling really threw me for a loop with her homophobic tweet. Not sure what’s going on over there.

Graham Linehan just tweeted something similar at me. I was taken aback. Flabbergasted, in fact.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:35:18pm

re: #79 Ace Rothstein

I bet you he can find North Korea on a map.

Well yeah it’s all Korea on his map, he probably got a nice one from Kim when he visited him.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:35:53pm

re: #69 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Hmmm. After what happened to Gillum, I’m not sure she would win. Every poll I saw, said that Gillum was leading.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:37:25pm
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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:37:54pm

re: #79 Ace Rothstein

It’s that ocean area where the lights are out.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:38:15pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

What’s with these British liberals and their anti-trans thing? It’s really weird.

My quick elevator take on it is that the liberals some how think that trans rights will some how negatively impact women’s rights. Kind of like how African-America civil rights was some how an infringement on white people’s rights. (This is based on what I read when the KJR thing blew up twitter.)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:38:42pm

re: #84 Patricia Kayden

Hmmm. After what happened to Gillum, I’m not sure she would win. Every poll I saw, said that Gillum was leading.

I don’t know Florida Democrats that well but I have come away impressed with the ones I have seen in the spotlight- Gillum, Demmings, and Wilson.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:39:25pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:39:43pm

Laughs at the idea of people trying to cross over being hit with something. Bunch of fucking hyenas.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:42:07pm

He seems to be not surprised to been expected to lose the midterms. Of course, it all changed after it in fact happened.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:42:19pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Sad because I love “The I.T. Crowd” — an absolutely fantastic comedy. Too bad he’s affiliated with such a great show given his strong transphobia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:46:37pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

maybe it’s Pompeo who doesn’t know the difference between Ukraine and Bangladesh on a map…

heh

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:46:41pm

Calls Waters a very low IQ person and the hyenas laugh hysterically.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:47:52pm
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retired cynic  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:48:57pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good for them.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:50:00pm

What rock did all these people claiming “Joe Rogan is a part of our politics” crawl out from?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:50:41pm

re: #97 jaunte

What rock did all these people claiming “Joe Rogan is a part of our politics” crawl out from?

“Our Revolution”

O_o

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:51:01pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Our Revolution”

O_o

That really doesn’t sound pleasant.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:51:20pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

A few days ago I would have had no idea who he was.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:52:29pm

re: #154 Chrysicat

And of course, he prolly also despises capitalism yet hijacks a condolence thread to sell a sort-of novel.

Left hanging on the previous thread:

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹🎃

What a douchecanoe.

Lack of industry would not be able to solve such a problem as a disease outbreak.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:53:38pm

Trump is astonished to know that Ukraine has oil.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:54:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:55:45pm

Chuck C. Johnson’s lawsuit against the Huffington Post. LOL

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retired cynic  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:57:25pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson’s lawsuit against the Huffington Post. LOL

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Has he ever gotten a better pro bono attorney? ROFL

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Dread Pirate  Jan 25, 2020 • 5:58:22pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Oh fuck, he has crotch-fruit.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:00:05pm

To me guys, this recording is why he’s always in Mar Al Lago. This is where he sells off the presidency to the highest bidder.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:02:31pm

Next, Charles C. Johnson sues the internet:

google.com

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:04:00pm

“…On May 24, 2015, Johnson sent a tweet asking his followers for donations to help him “take out” Black Lives Matter activist Deray McKesson. McKesson shared the tweet and took the tweet as a threat. Johnson was permanently banned from Twitter after several users reported him for harassment.[3] In 2018, Johnson sued Twitter for banning him on the grounds that Twitter violated his First Amendment right to free speech. The California Superior Court in Fresno struck down Johnson’s lawsuit on June 6.[22] “
en.wikipedia.org

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:04:39pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:05:10pm

Wingnut media is so sadly predictable. Parnas recording Trump they thing exonerates Trump. If anything, it shows how little regard Trump and his people have for national security.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:05:23pm

re: #108 jaunte

Next, Charles Johnson sues the internet:

google.com

“Chuck C.”, PLEASE!!

I mean, we all know what you mean, but if a stranger happens by?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:06:07pm

re: #112 Chrysicat

“Chuck C.”, PLEASE!!

I mean, we all know what you mean, but if a stranger happens by?

The amusing thing to me is that the linked Google search reveals our little troll’s legal middle name. I was endlessly amused.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:06:38pm

re: #112 Chrysicat

I added the C!

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:07:56pm

re: #87 Teddy’s Person

My quick elevator take on it is that the liberals some how think that trans rights will some how negatively impact women’s rights. Kind of like how African-America civil rights was some how an infringement on white people’s rights. (This is based on what I read when the KJR thing blew up twitter.)

If that’s true, someone might want to explain to them that when some people’s rights are excluded, it becomes easier to deny more people their rights.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:08:22pm

Having an edit function is really a wonderful feature that more places should have, Jack Dorsey.

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BigPapa  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:11:26pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

What’s with these British liberals and their anti-trans thing? It’s really weird.

I’m still weirded out about gay folk and feminists being anti-trans but so much cornfuses me nowadays.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:12:29pm

re: #117 BigPapa

I’m still weirded out about gay folk and feminists being anti-trans but so much cornfuses me nowadays.

I miss the idealism of 2009 so much.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:13:09pm

re: #104 Charles Johnson

Chuck C. Johnson’s lawsuit against the Huffington Post. LOL

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Oh so Ginger Snapped now resides in Texas.

Good.

California’s gain is Texas’ loss!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:14:01pm

re: #117 BigPapa

I’m still weirded out about gay folk and feminists being anti-trans but so much cornfuses me nowadays.

Speaking personally, the LGBTQ+ community is … complicated. Trans people are, unfortunately, caught in a crossfire of politics both within and without. Knowing several trans people personally, I empathize for them, as this is going to be a really bumpy ride while both sides figure out how to manage individuals who are making transitions.

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BigPapa  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:14:05pm

re: #118 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I miss the idealism of 2009 so much.

No shit, right?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:18:58pm

re: #121 BigPapa

No shit, right?

My first year here on LGF actually. I was 22 and had just spent a month studying in Galway, Ireland. I still remember an African-Irish cab driver I met. He was curious about Obama. I proudly told him that I had voted for Obama and I was excited about the future. I really hate what was done to Obama. He accomplished a lot but I really feel that he had a lot of unfair expectations put on him by the left coming in the heels of Bus and the Great Recession.

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BigPapa  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:19:03pm

re: #120 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, it is complex. But it’s a pretty binary thing for me, the middle aged white guy: you’re either for human rights and dignity, all humans in their skin and body configurations, or not. You assume an oppressed minority would have an appreciation of other oppressed minorities, and in many cases that happens. But it’s not a certainty.

All humans share all our traits, even the fucked up ones.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:21:46pm

re: #123 BigPapa

Yeah, it is complex. But it’s a pretty binary thing for me, the middle aged white guy: you’re either for human rights and dignity, all humans in their skin and body configurations, or not. You assume an oppressed minority would have an appreciation of other oppressed minorities, and in many cases that happens. But it’s not a certainty.

All humans share all our traits, even the fucked up ones.

See, I get that. You’re preaching to the choir here. The thing is that even amongst those who should know better, people who are transitioning or evolving are regarded as mysterious, or, to use the politically incorrect term, “freaks”. I know what that’s like, and it’s not pleasant. But the end result is this: Even amongst those who are supposedly “woke”, folks whom you think would know better and be more respectful, there is still resistance to change. People who are undergoing change are scary to everyone.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:22:34pm

After this tape recording is done, I think I’m going to watch something optimistic and happy so I’m going to follow George Harrison’s suggestion from about 50 years ago and watch Raga.

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:22:52pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Not that anybody cares that much but I’m pretty close to endorsing Elizabeth Warren myself. Out of this whole slate of Democrats TBH she’s the one I’d really like to see as president.

Welcome!
We Massholes think so,too!

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sagehen  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:23:28pm

re: #16 Ace Rothstein

Maybe he can sell sleepovers in the Lincoln bedroom. I’m sure Republican senators would find a way to suddenly be okay with that.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:23:34pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Graham Linehan just tweeted something similar at me. I was taken aback. Flabbergasted, in fact.

YouTuber Hbomberguy led a video game speed play of Donkey Kong 64 (arguably one of the slowest games out there) as an FU to Graham Lineham when he went to the UKs version of One Million Moms to protest to the UK Lottery that it should not give money to Mermaids (an organisation which helps trans youth and their families).

Hbomberguy intended to raise $100. By the time he was done, he’d raised nearly $400,000, and separately Mermaids raised hundreds of thousands more.

As his live stream went viral around the world, famous people started dropping in, including Rep. Ocasio-Cortez.

The chat accompanying the live stream turned into people from around the world telling of their experiences as a transgender person.

The spokesperson for Mermaids also dropped into the chat to describe the organisation and its mission.

Hbomberguy speaking at the XOXO Festival in Portland, Ore. last year [34:13] about how the FU to Lineham turned into a worldwide event.

Harry Brewis, Hbomberguy - XOXO Festival (2019)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:26:03pm

Things I have not heard in this recording surprisingly “Michael, we’re bigger than U.S. Steel.” No sign of a knife cutting a giant US shaped cake either.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:26:54pm

Oh god here comes the messiah stuff. So fucking creepy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:27:02pm

re: #129 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Things I have not heard in this recording surprisingly “Michael, we’re bigger than U.S. Steel.” No sign of a knife cutting a giant US shaped cake either.

I lived for years in the shadow of Bethlehem Steel’s great works on the shores of Burns Harbor, IN. Their employees were all unavailable for comment.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:27:46pm

re: #86 jaunte

It’s that ocean area where the lights are out.

Western Nebraska? /s

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:28:42pm

re: #131 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I lived for years in the shadow of Bethlehem Steel’s great works on the shores of Burns Harbor, IN. Their employees were all unavailable for comment.

Yeah my mom’s grandfathers and some of her uncles worked for them too. Steelworkers and coal miners.

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sagehen  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:28:48pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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somebody in the comments asks if any fan petitions have ever worked, ever resulted in the petitioners getting their wish.

To which I respond…

savedanieljackson.com
(2003)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:29:43pm

re: #133 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah my mom’s grandfathers and some of her uncles worked for them too. Steelworkers and coal miners.

Not my folks, but most of my classmates in high school, their parents. My best friend lost his dad to alcoholism as a secondary effect of the Lake Michigan mills closing in the mid-2000’s.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:30:55pm

re: #135 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Not my folks, but most of my classmates in high school, their parents. My best friend lost his dad to alcoholism as a secondary effect of the Lake Michigan mills closing in the mid-2000’s.

It’s why I hate the romanticizing of those places. My mom’s one grandfather died of black lung.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:31:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:32:09pm

re: #100 jaunte

A few days ago I would have had no idea who he was.

I keep track of religious wingnuts, because they are a direct threat to me. I’ve known who he was since he started becoming popular on YouTube.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:33:58pm

re: #136 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s why I hate the romanticizing of those places. My mom’s one grandfather died of black lung.

My dad was in management in the coal mines of West Virginia in the early 1980’s. My mom told me that she sometimes feared that he wouldn’t come home because of how management was so hated by the workers. And unfortunately for him, for good fucking reason.

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sagehen  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:34:40pm

re: #67 Ace Rothstein

No. 50-50 means no witnesses.

Wrong. 50-50 means Roberts can break the tie.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:34:46pm

re: #139 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My dad was in management in the coal mines of West Virginia in the early 1980’s. My mom told me that she sometimes feared that he wouldn’t come home because of how management was so hated by the workers. And unfortunately for him, for good fucking reason.

People who complain about unions need to read about coal mining is all I will say.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:35:02pm

re: #105 retired cynic

Has he ever gotten a better pro bono attorney? ROFL

WTF?

4. Defendant Campbell is a natural person and is domiciled in New York. He may be served with process at his place of employment at 770 Broadway, New York, New York through the Texas Secretary of State.

Why would the Texas Secretary of State have anything to do with a person who lives in New York suing a Delaware corporation?

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:36:15pm

re: #122 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Happy Warrior? I was wondering what happened to you but am just noticing that you changed your name.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:37:51pm

re: #143 Patricia Kayden

Happy Warrior? I was wondering what happened to you but am just noticing that you changed your name.

Yeah changed it on a whim.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:39:07pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🎃

“A number of Texas statutes designate the Secretary of State as a process agent, authorizing the Secretary of State to accept service on behalf of another person.”
sos.state.tx.us

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:39:55pm

re: #141 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

People who complain about unions need to read about coal mining is all I will say.

It was absolute shit on the workers. To be fair to my dad, he was an engineer, and I am sure he did his best to be fair, just knowing him as a man of integrity and compassion (despite being a wingnut dumbass). But I can absolutely understand the sentiment of the times and acknowledge why my mom felt insecure and why he probably felt unsafe at times.

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sagehen  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:40:23pm

re: #115 Belafon

If that’s true, someone might want to explain to them that when some people’s rights are excluded, it becomes easier to deny more people their rights.

“Either everybody has the same rights… or they’re not rights at all. They’re privileges.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:41:06pm

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:41:11pm

re: #116 jaunte

Having an edit function is really a wonderful feature that more places should have, Jack Dorsey.

My understanding is that Mumsnet, the British sorta-like Million Moms March organization is spreading TERF talk. Unfortunately, this talk is recycled from anti-trans propaganda from 20 years ago (by American norms), and blames gay males and their alleged sexual drives for the increased visibility of trans people.

I don’t think Brexit will break down these attitudes any time soon…

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:41:20pm

re: #82 Charles Johnson

Graham Linehan just tweeted something similar at me. I was taken aback. Flabbergasted, in fact.

I got in a twitter disagreement with him over Ed Snowden (my only twitter fight, because i’m almost never there)
Sad, because i love Father Ted

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mmmirele  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:41:33pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Not that anybody cares that much but I’m pretty close to endorsing Elizabeth Warren myself. Out of this whole slate of Democrats TBH she’s the one I’d really like to see as president.

We don’t much get into politics at the too big to fail bank, but we slid from a discussion about John Stumpf paying a $17.5 million fine and being banned from banking for life into a discussion of Warren, who still wants him to go to jail. And this manager who is conservative, he LIKES that idea. He thinks it’s a great idea, in fact. Others nearby nodded their heads.

I think I know why this is—people who have worked at the bank a long time, but not on the banking side, we’re pissed off. We did the best we could and dammit if those bankers didn’t screw up a good thing going. And people are pissed off that Stumpf, Tolstedt and a whole bunch of people basically made off with buckets of cash. Of course, Stumpf is having to cough up, but he’s still got enough money that his wife could plunk down $9.5 million earlier this month on an estate in Paradise Valley.

Look, if Elizabeth Warren can get people who work at a bank that she’s clear she wants to break up to like her and think she’s got good ideas, hmmm, she might have a chance. I’m voting for her in the primary, because, to be blunt, Biden is too old and, Bernie, he’s got red underwear. (What I’m saying is that Bernie’s got a Communist with a C past and you know the Rs have their crap ready to roll out.) Plus, Bernie’s too old. And his bros annoy me. And, by god, I really want to have a woman president before I die.

/end rant.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:42:21pm

re: #148 The Pie Overlord!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:43:42pm

re: #146 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It was absolute shit on the workers. To be fair to my dad, he was an engineer, and I am sure he did his best to be fair, just knowing him as a man of integrity and compassion (despite being a wingnut dumbass). But I can absolutely understand the sentiment of the times and acknowledge why my mom felt insecure and why he probably felt unsafe at times.

Oh absolutely. I’m just saying that mining is exactly why I’m unabashedly for the right to organize.

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retired cynic  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:44:02pm

re: #148 The Pie Overlord!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:44:20pm

re: #153 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Oh absolutely. I’m just saying that mining is exactly why I’m unabashedly for the right to organize.

110% agreed. Miners absolutely got the shaft when it comes to worker’s rights.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:45:30pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JC1  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:46:48pm

re: #62 i(m)p(each)sos

Tell me McConnell isn’t strategically letting a couple of senators go, knowing he’s still holding one or two in reserve to get 51-49 against witnesses, even if he can’t get 53-47.

Romney and Collins vote yes, while Murkowski clutches her pearls over being “offended” last night by Schiff and votes no.

(And what happens in this case on a 50-50 tie? Can Pence still break it?)

Pretty sure that Roberts would be the tie breaker for any votes.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:50:38pm

re: #148 The Pie Overlord!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:50:59pm

re: #155 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

110% agreed. Miners absolutely got the shaft when it comes to worker’s rights.

I’m lucky. No one in my close family died in any mining disasters. But absolutely. Always made me sad hearing my grandmother talk about her Dad being unable to walk at the end- he was 63 but he was a healthy man aside from his lungs. So when Mitch does things like ignore miners with black lung, I resent it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:51:46pm

re: #157 JC1

Pretty sure that Roberts would be the tie breaker for any votes.

Correct. Pence would definitely have to abstain as a member of the executive branch.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:52:06pm

Nugtvall

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:59:00pm

re: #159 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m lucky. No one in my close family died in any mining disasters. But absolutely. Always made me sad hearing my grandmother talk about her Dad being unable to walk at the end- he was 63 but he was a healthy man aside from his lungs. So when Mitch does things like ignore miners with black lung, I resent it.

One of my uncles (by marriage) lost his father and a brother to a mining accident. My grandfather collected checks for black lung as well - though he drove trucks for the mining company and didn’t actually work down in the mines themselves.

(en.wikipedia.org)

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Charles Johnson  Jan 25, 2020 • 6:59:13pm
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sagehen  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:02:06pm

I’m watching Seven Worlds, One Planet (BBC nature show)… and at the commercial break they just ran a promo for The Walking Dead narrated by David Attenborough…

“Walkers travel in groups; they’re slow but never stop…”

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Teukka  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:06:30pm

I know the source is the Daily FailTM, but I’ve heard these numbers from more than one source… 90k or more infected with Wuhan Coronavirus (a.k.a. Wuhan Clan, Kung Flu, Captain Wuhan Trips, et al.).
dailymail.co.uk

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:06:36pm

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:08:51pm
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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:09:39pm
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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:10:30pm

Republicans knew real-time Ukraine military aid was delayed.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:13:59pm

Coal mining is still dangerous but nothing like in the past. Coal mining accidents killed more than 100,000 people in the United States in the 20th century. Worst year was 1907 with 3432 deaths, out of 725,000 workers. There were 11 fatalities in 2019.

Coal Fatalities for 1900 Through 2019

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:14:34pm

re: #147 sagehen

“Either everybody has the same rights… or they’re not rights at all. They’re privileges.”

Liberty and justice for all.
If it’s not for all it’s neither liberty nor justice

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sagehen  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:15:36pm

new SNL tonight.

Adam Driver, Halsey.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:17:09pm

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:21:45pm
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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:30:19pm

Oh there’s more. Sleep tight, Senators.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:31:34pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:35:27pm

re: #175 jaunte

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Oh there’s more. Sleep tight, Senators.

Hope they do this all the way to election day

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Disloyal Archangel  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:38:00pm

re: #177 Dangerman (misuser of the sarc tag)

Hope they do this all the way to election day

Little by little, drop by drop, all the way to November.
Or to Trump’s McStroke, whichever comes first. ;)

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Interesting Times  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:44:22pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

What’s with these British liberals and their anti-trans thing? It’s really weird.

It’s not just British liberals. A FB friend posted an article which started off like this…

FORT DODGE, Iowa — Police say a man killed his ex-girlfriend’s mother at an Iowa home about an hour after officers went to the apartment following a reported assault but left without making an arrest or removing anyone from the tense scene.

… prompting someone else to leave this comment:

They have more respect for men in dresses than real women.

So yeah…that’s what it boils down to - they very much see it as a zero-sum game.

re: #87 Teddy’s Person

My quick elevator take on it is that the liberals some how think that trans rights will some how negatively impact women’s rights.

I’ve heard several variations of this argument as well - things like women losing their own sports to transwomen, women no longer being allowed to talk about things like periods without being called “terfs”, etc. In short, they see transwomen as men trying to either invade or take away female-only spaces, and it’s an extremely effective scare tactic :/

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Disloyal Archangel  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:50:46pm

Been having fun looking up Gematria values that add up to the same value Parnas was using to compare Trump to the messiah.

Seems it holds up nicely in Hebrew as well: Hebrew phrases with the Gematric value of 424 include “drug dealer” (סוחר סמים), “to be hospitalized/locked up” (לאשפוז), “you have sinned” (וחטאת) & last but not least, and perhaps the most fitting, “the madman” (המשוגע).

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2020 • 7:52:57pm

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 25, 2020 • 8:01:53pm

re: #179 Interesting Times

That asshole Brian Camenker of Mass Resistance is from my fucking state! He never stops going on about restrooms!

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Dave In Austin  Jan 25, 2020 • 8:11:39pm
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Dread Pirate  Jan 25, 2020 • 8:15:14pm

“The Jews pull her strings. Hail Trump!”

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retired cynic  Jan 25, 2020 • 8:18:20pm

re: #184 Dread Pirate

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“The Jews pull her strings. Hail Trump!”

Let’s subpoena that SOB!

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2020 • 8:21:55pm

Read this whole transcript. Pompeo has no answers for any of her good questions on Iran or Ukraine. No wonder he lost it. He’s in over his head.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 25, 2020 • 8:26:16pm

re: #186 jaunte

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Read this whole transcript. Pompeo has no answers for any of her good questions on Iran or Ukraine. No wonder he lost it. He’s in over his head.

Then he lied and said she pointed to Bangladesh.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 25, 2020 • 8:31:37pm

re: #187 Dread Pirate

Then he lied and said she pointed to Bangladesh.

Which is bizarre. But then again Trump’s people think we’re all as stupid as he is.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 8:40:29pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 25, 2020 • 8:58:56pm

re: #187 Dread Pirate

Then he lied and said she pointed to Bangladesh.

Maybe that’s where Pompeo thought Ukraine was.
//

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Sherlock Hound  Jan 25, 2020 • 9:01:59pm

re: #189 Chrysicat

Jack seems nice. Didn’t like my gulag reference. I don’t know why I’m never impressed with an ideology that depends on people being “better than them! Really!” I’m old and static!
///

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 9:07:12pm

re: #191 Sherlock Hound

Jack seems nice. Didn’t like my gulag reference. I don’t know why I’m never impressed with an ideology that depends on people being “better than them! Really!” I’m old and static!
///

Doesn’t seem to appreciate the idea that Roganites are even potential Strasserites either.

But I’m not blocking him and he hasn’t blocked me yet, for my part because I don’t have confidence his followers aren’t seeing this, while mine are quickly becoming familiar with my paranoia over Strasserism and I still have 920 or so.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 25, 2020 • 9:36:54pm
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Dread Pirate  Jan 25, 2020 • 9:47:28pm

re: #193 Dave In Austin

or Trump…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 25, 2020 • 10:14:08pm

re: #193 Dave In Austin

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Remember the fool who got the Romney tattoo on his face?

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Dread Pirate  Jan 25, 2020 • 10:23:56pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 25, 2020 • 10:39:09pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Sigh. I really like Michael Bennett and so did they. Too bad that the primary reason he wasn’t considered for endorsement is that he hasn’t caught on.

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uriel  Jan 25, 2020 • 10:48:53pm

re: #39 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s foolish to think all these guys are dumb. I know it’s fun to laugh at them and Trump I definitely do laugh at but there’s definitely some genuinely intelligent people that are part of this.

Your’re not wrong.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 25, 2020 • 10:51:55pm

re: #187 Dread Pirate

Then he lied and said she pointed to Bangladesh.

Technically Pompeo didn’t say that. His words were “It is worth noting that Bangladesh is NOT Ukraine”. The implication is clear but he never said that she pointed to the wrong country. Pompeo may be smarter than Trump (at least on IQ tests) — but he is as vile without the “charisma”. It was shocking to read of his apparent lack of concern about Ukraine — but this is in accord with the complete GOP capitulation to Putin.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 25, 2020 • 10:58:55pm

re: #165 Teukka

I know the source is the Daily FailTM, but I’ve heard these numbers from more than one source… 90k or more infected with Wuhan Coronavirus (a.k.a. Wuhan Clan, Kung Flu, Captain Wuhan Trips, et al.).
dailymail.co.uk

Same here - the 90K/100K number of infected has been claimed over the last 24 hours or so. It actually wouldn’t surprise me at all - and it would certainly serve to explain the hardcore measures Beijing is taking, which seem to be disproportionate to the official numbers.

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Chrysicat  Jan 25, 2020 • 11:05:40pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 25, 2020 • 11:05:45pm

re: #200 Dr Lizardo

Same here - the 90K/100K number of infected has been claimed over the last 24 hours or so. It actually wouldn’t surprise me at all - and it would certainly serve to explain the hardcore measures Beijing is taking, which seem to be disproportionate to the official numbers.

We certainly have to be careful about all these numbers — after all if there were indeed 56 deaths among 100K cases — and those infected were recovering — then the mortality rate is in line with the normal seasonal flu. Of course, given it’s China and this is a novel disease, we cannot be assured that any of these numbers are accurate.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 25, 2020 • 11:09:18pm

re: #202 Hecuba’s daughter

We certainly have to be careful about all these numbers — after all if there were indeed 56 deaths among 100K cases — and those infected were recovering — then the mortality rate is in line with the normal seasonal flu. Of course, given it’s China and this is a novel disease, we cannot be assured that any of these numbers are accurate.

Exactly. I have no reason to simply trust in the official numbers that Beijing is putting out there.

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Dread Pirate  Jan 25, 2020 • 11:35:33pm

Trumps long lost twin brother.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 25, 2020 • 11:56:27pm

Orange County, CA has confirmed a case of Wuhan Coronoavirus:

A person in Orange County has tested positive for the novel coronavirus, according to the Orange County Health Care Agency’s Communicable Disease Control Division.

The case involved a traveler from Wuhan, China.

In consultation with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the California Department of Public Health, the HCA said it following up directly with all individuals who have had close contact with the case and are at risk of infection.

nbclosangeles.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 12:13:57am

Well, this is not the cheeriest of news:

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 1:05:55am
The ability of the coronavirus to spread is getting stronger and infections could continue to rise, China’s National Health Commission said on Sunday, with more than 2,000 people globally infected and 56 in China killed by the disease.

National Health Commission Minister Ma Xiaowei, speaking at a press briefing, said knowledge of the virus was limited.

Ma said the incubation period for the coronavirus can range from one to 14 days, and that the virus is infectious during incubation, which was not the case with Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), a coronavirus that originated in China and killed nearly 800 people globally in 2002 and 2003.

Containment efforts, which have thus far included transportation and travel curbs and the cancellation of big events, will be intensified, Ma told a crowded news briefing on the second day of the Lunar New Year holiday.

nationalpost.com

I’m no doctor or anything, but it seems to me that what Ma Xiaowei is saying here is that when all is said and done, perhaps no amount of screening would work. It’d be impossible to tell who was infected and who wasn’t if they appear healthy…..oh, and he’s also saying that the virus is infectious during the incubation period.

That would seem to be rather bad news, I’d think.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 26, 2020 • 2:47:04am

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

Horrifying news. I’m expecting Trump to ban the entrance to the U.S. of anyone from China pretty soon.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 26, 2020 • 2:57:08am

re: #187 Dread Pirate

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 3:08:50am

re: #208 Patricia Kayden

Horrifying news. I’m expecting Trump to ban the entrance to the U.S. of anyone from China pretty soon.

Well, unless they’ve invested $$$ in Ivanka’s companies. Or are paid-up Mar-a-Lago members. Etc., etc.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 26, 2020 • 3:09:59am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

nationalpost.com

I’m no doctor or anything, but it seems to me that what Ma Xiaowei is saying here is that when all is said and done, perhaps no amount of screening would work. It’d be impossible to tell who was infected and who wasn’t if they appear healthy…..oh, and he’s also saying that the virus is infectious during the incubation period.

That would seem to be rather bad news, I’d think.

This is the sort of thing that would cause fearful governments to start closing off travel, and not just from China and not just to the USA.

The PRC isn’t well-known for handing out information which is damaging to their image. If Ma Xiaowei is putting this out as official information, it would seem the PRC is worried enough it overcomes their reticence to share information with other nations.

Additionally, if there is in fact no way to screen for the disease, then this will also severely impact trade to and from China.

Beijing banning bus service to and from the capital seems to be a pretty severe crackdown for such a large city if the government didn’t believe the disease wasn’t dangerous.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 3:10:48am

re: #208 Patricia Kayden

It’s being picked up by BBC News, so pretty soon, this will be mainstream around the world.

A new coronavirus that has spread to almost 2,000 people is infectious in its incubation period - before symptoms show - making it harder to contain, Chinese officials say.

Some 56 people have died from the virus. Health minister Ma Xiaowei told reporters the ability of the virus to spread appeared to be strengthening.

bbc.co.uk

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 3:13:34am

re: #211 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Seems like they’re acknowledging they’ve got an epidemic that’s like something out of a Hollywood blockbuster disaster flick (well, minus horrific death toll, thus far at least).

You’re right, this seems to be bad enough it’s overcome their typical reticence to share bad news and/or blow sunshine up everyone’s asses.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 26, 2020 • 3:21:59am

re: #213 Dr Lizardo

Seems like they’re acknowledging they’ve got an epidemic that’s like something out of a Hollywood blockbuster disaster flick (well, minus horrific death toll, thus far at least).

You’re right, this seems to be bad enough it’s overcome their typical reticence to share bad news and/or blow sunshine up everyone’s asses.

This is the sort of thing that is more dangerous for cities than rural areas as well. A place like Chicago (where they’ve already identified a case) is much more likely to see it than a place like where I live.

There are articles in the Broadwater (Nebr.) News about the Spanish Flu pandemic from 1918-1919. (My wife spent a lot of time researching the village newspaper for a historical piece she wrote.)

The outbreak when it reached Nebraska hit all the major cities.

Our town’s health board imposed a quarantine on the village to prevent the disease from coming into town. The town was closed off by the health board and the marshal with the blessing of the village board, and a posse was set up at both ends of what is now US-26 to prevent travelers from coming into town.

The town banned large gatherings (well, we didn’t have many more people in 1918 than we do now), closed the Isis Theatre (the town cinema), closed the bar, and closed the restaurant. The grocery stores (there were two then) delivered to people’s homes rather than have people come in the stores (the village health board banned shopping in the grocery stores). Deliveries to keep the stores stocked were unloaded at the town line and people in town brought them to the store.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 26, 2020 • 3:30:03am

re: #203 Dr Lizardo

Exactly. I have no reason to simply trust in the official numbers that Beijing is putting out there.

There’s also the perennial problem of health agencies in any country trying to get accurate numbers. If a person doesn’t go to the doctor, then such a case isn’t reported to the health authorities. Pretty much any epidemic’s reported numbers can be low just from that.

Additionally, it takes time to collate reports and give accurate numbers, so reporting is always a bit behind what is occurring now.

On top of that, if their health ministry is correct about the disease being spread before symptoms appear, sub-clinical cases of infections presumably could also be spread from people who never know they are infected in the first place.

I read an article yesterday where the Chinese police cracked down on an anti-vax protest in the streets of Wuhan on top of all this, as anti-vaxxers are spreading disinformation and anti-science nonsense across the Internet as fast as they can.

If China or another nation was to come up with a vaccine for the virus, expect a whole lot of conspiraderp about vaccines for this disease trying to sway people not to get a vaccination if they are in a high-risk area of contracting it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 3:34:15am

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹🎃

If China or another nation was to come up with a vaccine for the virus, expect a whole lot of conspiraderp about vaccines for this disease trying to sway people not to get a vaccination if they are in a high-risk area of contracting it.

I’m already seeing anti-vax conspiracy theories among the usual suspects in the Czech wingnutosphere. Not surprising, given the prevalence of anti-vax sentiment here as well as a strong and abiding belief in woowoo such as homeopathy among large segments of the Czech population.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 26, 2020 • 3:42:58am

re: #216 Dr Lizardo

I’m already seeing anti-vax conspiracy theories among the usual suspects in the Czech wingnutosphere. Not surprising, given the prevalence of anti-vax sentiment here as well as a strong and abiding belief in woowoo such as homeopathy among large segments of the Czech population.

I’m not on the Faceborg, so I can’t monitor the pro-plague groups there (which Zuck said he was going to get rid of, surprise, he didn’t, they make him money), but I imagine there is quite a bit of derp here too.

We have our own antivaxxers in our area (thanks to the one who’s kid gave me the mumps in 2012 and almost killed me), but the regional newspaper doesn’t allow comments on its articles on-line, so their nonsense isn’t being spread that way through the newspaper’s comments section.

So far there are no letters to the editor opposing vaccinations (it is possible though that the editor is screening them out).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Jan 26, 2020 • 3:54:23am

Comment on Voice of America about the outbreak in China:

Trump needs to tariff the virus . That will stop it from taking advantage Of the U.S.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jan 26, 2020 • 4:16:43am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 4:26:13am

re: #208 Patricia Kayden

Horrifying news. I’m expecting Trump to ban the entrance to the U.S. of anyone from China pretty soon.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 4:26:53am

Suspected Wuhan Coronavirus case in Berlin.

n-tv.de

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jeffreyw  Jan 26, 2020 • 4:39:13am

Good morning!

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 26, 2020 • 4:50:28am

Vanilla waffles for breffist.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 4:53:02am

re: #221 Dr Lizardo

Turned out it was negative. Whew.

tagesspiegel.de

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jeffreyw  Jan 26, 2020 • 5:23:13am

From the archives

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 5:34:08am

re: #219 Sufficient unto the day…

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BTW, if you are so concerned, how many have you taken into your home so you can take care of them

That’s what taxes are for.

So I don’t need my own personal police force, fire Dept, schools etc.
So I don’t have to solve every issue/problem by myself

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 5:35:40am

re: #223 Shropshire Slasher

Vanilla waffles for breffist.

Ditto
Except for the vanilla
And ours are pancakes

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 5:36:16am
Businesses in the eastern Chinese manufacturing hub of Suzhou will stay shut until at least Feb. 8 due to the spread of the new coronavirus, the city government said on Sunday.

China is currently on a week-long holiday for the Lunar New Year, which is due to end on Friday when companies are supposed to resume work.

todayonline.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 26, 2020 • 5:49:52am

Return to sender!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 5:53:32am

re: #229 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Return to sender!

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Where’s Pompeo?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 26, 2020 • 5:58:33am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 5:58:41am
I now live in Maine. I think you need to take Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) more seriously. When she boldly states that she is beginning to think that she might be not unlikely to consider the notion of a motion that would allow a debate about the possibility of voting on whether to call witnesses in a very important trial, she probably means it and she won’t back down even if she changes her mind again

. B.C., Damariscotta, ME

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:02:54am

re: #219 Sufficient unto the day…

BTW, if you are so concerned, how many have you taken into your home so you can take care of them?

CPB is paying the for-profit detention centers $700 per day, per detainee. For that price, I’ll take 10.

It would be cheaper to book them all into Holiday Inn. Give each family a room, including unlimited room service, pay-per-view, room service and a maid.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:09:36am
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Teddy's Person  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:09:46am

It’s up and threatening payback.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:11:37am

re: #235 Teddy’s Person

It’s up and threatening payback.

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This needs to end with him in an orange jumper alone in a federal prison with no access to TwitterS

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:20:25am
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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:22:38am
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Teddy's Person  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:24:07am

re: #236 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

This needs to end with him in an orange jumper alone in a federal prison with no access to TwitterS

Not sure which would drive him more made: incarceration or no one paying attention to him.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:24:54am

re: #237 jaunte

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Good on John Kerry.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:24:56am

re: #237 jaunte

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Kerry would know. I haven’t forgotten Swift Boating and neither has he. Same with Max Cleland and yes McCain. Democrats were always respectful of McCain’s service. They were critical of his judgment but Obama-Biden never cast judgment on his patriotism.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:26:08am

re: #239 Teddy’s Person

Not sure which would drive him more made: incarceration or no one paying attention to him.

I think the latter if you had to ask me. But the former too since no hamburders, Fox News, & violent tv.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:27:29am

re: #238 jaunte

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Oh so he’s making Mary Louise Kelly’s story all the more credible by backing up his pos SoS.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:29:40am

Lankford still desperately maintaining the lie. Wait for Trump to admit the truth and make him look even more like a compromised fool.

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Teddy's Person  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:30:47am

re: #243 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Oh so he’s making Mary Louise Kelly’s story all the more credible by backing up his pos SoS.

This is classic Trump, obnoxiously complain about criticism only to prove the veracity of said criticism.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:31:30am

re: #244 jaunte

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Lankford still desperately maintaining the lie. Wait for Trump to admit the truth and make him look even more like a compromised fool.

Yeah the President just casually let’s random people talk about firing the SoS and he goes along with it. Sigh. At this point, I almost think we’re going to need De-Trumpification.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:31:50am

re: #245 Teddy’s Person

This is classic Trump, obnoxiously complain about criticism only to prove the veracity of said criticism.

Happens every time.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:34:30am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:36:50am

re: #235 Teddy’s Person

It’s up and threatening payback.

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I literally ignore everything he tweets

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Teddy's Person  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:39:22am

re: #246 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah the President just casually let’s random people talk about firing the SoS and he goes along with it. Sigh. At this point, I almost think we’re going to need De-Trumpification.

And de-Trumping is going to be hard and ugly. Republicans seem to have acquired a taste for poo slinging at a Trumpian level (poo slinging that they used to outsource to the likes of Rushbo), and I don’t see them going cold turkey any time soon. It’s like the tea party was the gateway drug to full blown addiction.

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:40:05am

re: #204 Dread Pirate

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Trumps long lost twin brother.

Only snowflakes pay their bills. Real Alphas skip town.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:41:36am

I don’t watch SNL. Too late and I’m an early riser:

This week’s SNL cold open…Some of the characters in “hell” were Dersh, Epstein, and Zuckerberg..who’s best line was “I don’t endorse evil, I just help millions of people share it”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:42:20am

re: #250 Teddy’s Person

And de-Trumping is going to be hard and ugly. Republicans seem to have acquired a taste for poo slinging at a Trumpian level (poo slinging that they used to outsource to the likes of Rushbo), and I don’t see them going cold turkey any time soon. It’s like the tea party was the gateway drug to full blown addiction.

We need someone to heal this country so badly yet hold Republicans accountable for our wounds. I really think Obama’s election 12 years ago scared the hell out of a lot of people and it’s been a shit show ever since.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:45:04am

re: #253 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We need someone to heal this country so badly yet hold Republicans accountable for our wounds. I really think Obama’s election 12 years ago scared the hell out of a lot of people and it’s been a shit show ever since.

Obama’s election - and subsequent re-election - scared the good old-fashioned bejesus out of about 40% of the USA, because they looked at this as a portend of a future in which they were not in charge.

And they didn’t like that idea one damn bit, so they elected Trump, in a final desperate effort to forestall that future.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:45:18am

re: #252 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

I don’t watch SNL. Too late and I’m an early riser:

This week’s SNL cold open…Some of the characters in “hell” were Dersh, Epstein, and Zuckerberg..who’s best line was “I don’t endorse evil, I just help millions of people share it”

Tomorrow is the 75th anniversary of Auschwitz’s liberation. What would the world of 2020 say if they saw that footage for the first time in 2020? I hate to sound cynical but there’s a lot of ugliness that has emerged. Some in the name of $$$, some outta pure hate, some outta ignorance, all uninterested in acknowledging the Earth is all our home.

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Teukka  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:45:42am

re: #235 Teddy’s Person

It’s up and threatening payback.

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In case it gets deleted, here be a screengrab:

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Teddy's Person  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:45:57am

re: #253 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We need someone to heal this country so badly yet hold Republicans accountable for our wounds. I really think Obama’s election 12 years ago scared the hell out of a lot of people and it’s been a shit show ever since.

When the Dems win in November (I’m choosing to be optimistic this AM), the new president needs to hire an adviser with expertise in the de-Nazification of Germany to help with the healing.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:46:56am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:47:14am

re: #254 Dr Lizardo

Obama’s election - and subsequent re-election - scared the good old-fashioned bejesus out of about 40% of the USA, because they looked at this as a portend of a future in which they were not in charge.

And they didn’t like that idea one damn bit, so they elected Trump, in a final desperate effort to forestall that future.

I just hope I look back on this gray not telling our descendants that “2020 was the point of no return” but rather 2020 is when we began to reclaim small bits of human decency.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:49:03am

re: #257 Teddy’s Person

When the Dems win in November (I’m choosing to be optimistic this AM), the new president needs to hire an adviser with expertise in the de-Nazification of Germany to help with the healing.

I’m actually optimistic about winning in the fall. The healing less so. There really is an alternate reality where Trump is what a normal President does. De-Nazification was difficult. Another precedent was the aftermath of the Argentine military junta.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:50:13am

re: #248 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

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The Republican Party is a cornered beast, its constituency’s privilege doomed by demographics and its own culturally embedded weaknesses. This is its death rattle but it is also when it is most dangerous.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:50:15am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:50:53am

re: #260 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m actually optimistic about winning in the fall. The healing less so. There really is an alternate reality where Trump is what a normal President does. De-Nazification was difficult. Another precedent was the aftermath of the Argentine military junta.

We’re going to need something like the Nuremberg Trials and the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

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unproven innocence  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:51:59am

re: #14 Dread Pirate

POTUS: the steel/aluminum tariffs haven’t worked, so they’re being *extended* to downstream articles like nails.

1. For want of a nail… something… something… was lost.
2. The Boston Tea Party was over an imperial tax imposed on something nearly everyone “needed”, but the extra cost was imposed only once —not cascaded like Russian dolls.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:53:26am

re: #262 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

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Josh Hawley is the Tom Cotton of Mike Pompeos.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:54:15am

re: #263 Dr Lizardo

We’re going to need something like the Nuremberg Trials and the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

It’s gonna be a long road.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:55:20am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:55:24am

Now we are going to see a bunch of Bernoid safaris.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:57:01am

STFU NYTimes we already are well acquainted with Trump’s “debate” style.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:57:20am
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Teukka  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:58:06am

N.B.: To my knowledge, this exchange never took place. It’s just a fitting caption to a picture.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:58:32am

re: #268 The Pie Overlord!

Now we are going to see a bunch of Bernoid safaris.

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Now do the one where the only African-American in Vermont’s legislature had to resign and the one where African Americans are pulled over by Vermont’s finest at a considerably higher rate.

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Disloyal Archangel  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:58:52am

Heh. Someone asked me what’s the Jewish Gematric value of ‘self-tanner’ in the context of that Parnas/Trump bit i posted above.
It is 387 - which i just found was the same as “Shunned”, “Crimes of hate”, “Cloning is diabolical”, “Secret seed”… and “Mohammad bin Salman”.
Not 100% sure what crazed conspiracy theory is hiding in there, but I’m liking the overall shape of it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:59:15am

re: #271 Teukka

N.B.: To my knowledge, this exchange never took place. It’s just a fitting caption to a picture.

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Yeah it’s a gag. Believable tho.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 6:59:45am

re: #269 The Pie Overlord!

How would I, Dr. Lizardo, debate Trump?

I’d be the nastiest, most acid-tongued, vicious SOB imaginable. Hell, Trump would probably have a heart attack by the time I got done triggering his tender sensibilities. Then, people would be saying, “OMG you gave Trump a heart attack!!” and I’d be saying, “You’re goddamn right.”

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:00:28am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:00:40am

re: #267 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

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Yeah. He threatens revenge but Schiff was so awful for citing that CBS article. I bet Trump has dirt on every Senate and House Republican.

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Disloyal Archangel  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:00:52am

re: #274 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah it’s a gag. Believable tho.

All too believable. Even after a 2020 wipeout, it’s gonna take a while before “basic intelligence” and the office of the presidency are linked again in the minds of many…

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:01:21am

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:03:30am

re: #278 Disloyal Archangel

All too believable. Even after a 2020 wipeout, it’s gonna take a while before “basic intelligence” and the office of the presidency are linked again in the minds of many…

It aches my heart so much we went from Obama to this.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:07:43am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:08:08am

re: #273 Disloyal Archangel

Heh. Someone asked me what’s the Jewish Gematric value of ‘self-tanner’ in the context of that Parnas/Trump bit i posted above.
It is 387 - which i just found was the same as “Shunned”, “Crimes of hate”, “Cloning is diabolical”, “Secret seed”… and “Mohammad bin Salman”.
Not 100% sure what crazed conspiracy theory is hiding in there, but I’m liking the overall shape of it.

Here is a great thread (with some of your Tweets in it)

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Teddy's Person  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:10:36am

For me, Bernie’s career isn’t something I’ve paid much attention to, and his presidential runs haven’t really compelled me to do much research. But I do have a question. Has he ever faced rabid Republican oppo research? This is what concerns me about him as the candidate. Not just the bullshit that Republicans will heap on any Dem candidate but how they respond to said bullshit. Nightmare fuel to me is the campaign becomes a shout fest between Trump and Sanders, neither one really saying anything and depressing turnout.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:10:50am
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sagehen  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:14:18am

re: #252 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

I don’t watch SNL. Too late and I’m an early riser:

This week’s SNL cold open…Some of the characters in “hell” were Dersh, Epstein, and Zuckerberg..who’s best line was “I don’t endorse evil, I just help millions of people share it”

An extra layer of appropriate that Jon Lovitz plays Dershowitz.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:15:15am

re: #273 Disloyal Archangel

Heh. Someone asked me what’s the Jewish Gematric value of ‘self-tanner’ in the context of that Parnas/Trump bit i posted above.
It is 387 - which i just found was the same as “Shunned”, “Crimes of hate”, “Cloning is diabolical”, “Secret seed”… and “Mohammad bin Salman”.
Not 100% sure what crazed conspiracy theory is hiding in there, but I’m liking the overall shape of it.

Where do they get 424? because דאנאלד טראמפ = 420

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:18:21am

re: #286 The Pie Overlord!

Lousy math skills and lousy political skills.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:18:32am

You can manipulate letters and numbers to pretty much fit whatever result you want.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:19:22am

re: #234 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I misread that as “Cats with threatening anus”

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:20:45am

The value of “messiah” is 358 and “The Messiah” is 363.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:21:07am

re: #254 Dr Lizardo

Obama’s election - and subsequent re-election - scared the good old-fashioned bejesus out of about 40% of the USA, because they looked at this as a portend of a future in which they were not in charge.

And they didn’t like that idea one damn bit, so they elected Trump, in a final desperate effort* to forestall that future.

* Imo destined to fail

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:21:08am

re: #283 Teddy’s Person

For me, Bernie’s career isn’t something I’ve paid much attention to, and his presidential runs haven’t really compelled me to do much research. But I do have a question. Has he ever faced rabid Republican oppo research? This is what concerns me about him as the candidate. Not just the bullshit that Republicans will heap on any Dem candidate but how they respond to said bullshit. Nightmare fuel to me is the campaign becomes a shout fest between Trump and Sanders, neither one really saying anything and depressing turnout.

Not really. I don’t think he’s had a serious campaign since his initial election to Congress.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:21:42am

re: #276 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

But that is true of almost all white men in this country, too. The ones who escape are the “powerful” ones, through position and wealth, who can afford to bully or buy off their accusers.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:22:05am

re: #291 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

* Imo destined to fail

Let’s hope so.

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:22:29am

re: #260 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m actually optimistic about winning in the fall. The healing less so. There really is an alternate reality where Trump is what a normal President does. De-Nazification was difficult. Another precedent was the aftermath of the Argentine military junta.

Spain is only just now starting the reconciliation process from what happened under Franco’s regime.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:22:29am

re: #294 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I second that.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:23:44am

The stated numbers just don’t line up with the truly drastic measures we see from the Chinese government. It could easily be orders of magnitude worse than they are admitting.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:23:44am

re: #291 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

* Imo destined to fail

I think it’s destined to fail as well. This is a last, frantic act of desperation. Sort of an après nous, le déluge moment.

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William Lewis  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:24:58am

re: #295 sagehen

Spain is only just now starting the reconciliation process from what happened under Franco’s regime.

And the fascists are fighting against it tooth and nail. It will be worse here because so much of it has been driven by the Russians …

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:25:11am

re: #269 The Pie Overlord!

STFU NYTimes we already are well acquainted with Trump’s “debate” style.

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that’s so sweet, the NYT is openly, publicly, trying to help Trump with his debate prep.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:25:56am

re: #295 sagehen

Spain is only just now starting the reconciliation process from what happened under Franco’s regime.

Yep and Franco died 46 years ago.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:26:52am

re: #297 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s all to easy to imagine that the Beijing central government is in full-on coverup mode - much like how the Soviets were in dealing with the Chernobyl disaster back in 1986; they knew they had an absolute shitstorm of a disaster on their hands, but they didn’t want to look incompetent or foolish in the eyes of the world.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:27:01am

re: #292 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Not really. I don’t think he’s had a serious campaign since his initial election to Congress.

His wife did a shady real estate deal on Lake Champlain.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:27:16am

Sugar and spice
Black and white
Up and down
North and South

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:27:54am

re: #304 The Pie Overlord!

Forth and back!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:27:56am

re: #299 William Lewis

And the fascists are fighting against it tooth and nail. It will be worse here because so much of it has been driven by the Russians …

Your analogy in the Obama years that this was akin to Spain was spot on. I should reread Beevor’s excellent general history of the war.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:30:34am

re: #292 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Not really. I don’t think he’s had a serious campaign since his initial election to Congress.

They will unleash “socialist” while ignoring the “democratic” part. Fwiw

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:31:13am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:31:23am

re: #293 retired cynic

But that is true of almost all white men in this country, too. The ones who escape are the “powerful” ones, through position and wealth, who can afford to bully or buy off their accusers.

..what he said
All we need to know

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:32:12am

re: #308 jaunte

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Exactly

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:33:47am

re: #307 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

They will unleash “socialist” while ignoring the “democratic” part. Fwiw

Bernie’s loyal legions have a hostility to democracy that bugs me. Democracy matters more to me than ideology at this point. I’m still trying to figure out who is the most democratic of the Dems left. That’s how my primary vote will be decided.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:34:20am

re: #305 jaunte

Forth and back!

Yon and hither!

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:34:58am

re: #312 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

Drang und sturm

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:36:01am

re: #312 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

See - Saw

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:36:43am

Reel and rod.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:37:20am

Effect and cause.

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:38:02am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

It’s all to easy to imagine that the Beijing central government is in full-on coverup mode - much like how the Soviets were in dealing with the Chernobyl disaster back in 1986; they knew they had an absolute shitstorm of a disaster on their hands, but they didn’t want to look incompetent or foolish in the eyes of the world.

If it turns out to be as bad as we can imagine…

The plague really sucked at the time. Utter misery. But 150 years later, the world was much better off for it having happened. There’s times I think the planet might really appreciate if there was 1/3 fewer people on it.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:39:27am

re: #85 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Wow, I can’t even

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:39:32am

re: #303 Shropshire Slasher

His wife did a shady real estate deal on Lake Champlain.

And bankrupted Burlington College.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:39:47am

re: #308 jaunte

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Unfortunately these arguments won’t help

We know what happened
We know the defenses they are grasping at are thin stretches that are largely inappropriate

This pony and dog show of mirrors and smoke is all they got

The vote is predictable, one might say almost preordained

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:39:52am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🎃

This is the sort of thing that is more dangerous for cities than rural areas as well. A place like Chicago (where they’ve already identified a case) is much more likely to see it than a place like where I live.

There are articles in the Broadwater (Nebr.) News about the Spanish Flu pandemic from 1918-1919. (My wife spent a lot of time researching the village newspaper for a historical piece she wrote.)

The outbreak when it reached Nebraska hit all the major cities.

Our town’s health board imposed a quarantine on the village to prevent the disease from coming into town. The town was closed off by the health board and the marshal with the blessing of the village board, and a posse was set up at both ends of what is now US-26 to prevent travelers from coming into town.

The town banned large gatherings (well, we didn’t have many more people in 1918 than we do now), closed the Isis Theatre (the town cinema), closed the bar, and closed the restaurant. The grocery stores (there were two then) delivered to people’s homes rather than have people come in the stores (the village health board banned shopping in the grocery stores). Deliveries to keep the stores stocked were unloaded at the town line and people in town brought them to the store.

really good novel with that basic premise: The Last Town on Earth by Thomas Mullen

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:41:23am

re: #319 sagehen

And bankrupted Burlington College.

And the right holds back on that because they like the narrative of Bernie the pure being victimized by the Democratic establishment because they know it will suppress some Democratic support.

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mmmirele  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:50:42am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Back in the early 1980s, when I went to university, the pandemic of 1918-1919 had been pretty much forgotten. One of the few scholars was historian Alfred Crosby, who taught at my alma mater, the University of Texas at Austin, and wrote a book called “America’s Forgotten Pandemic.”

People know more about pandemics today than they did four decades ago, and about the 1918-1919 flu, we know quite a lot. Scientists have even exhumed bodies buried in Alaskan permafrost to collect samples of the virus. But we still don’t know the source—it’s been alternately speculated to have been France, Kansas (Crosby), or China. The 1918-1919 pandemic is known to be an H1N1 virus with possible avian origins.

I have a bad feeling we may be looking at another awful pandemic.

Oh, there’s a science fiction novel called “The Doomsday Book” by Connie Willis. It’s a time travel novel but in the background is a massive killing pandemic in the present (2054-2055) day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:54:24am

re: #301 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yep and Franco died 46 years ago.

Chevy Chase: “Generalissimo Franco Is Still Dead, but for Some Not Dead Enough”.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:56:09am

re: #323 mmmirele

Back in the early 1980s, when I went to university, the pandemic of 1918-1919 had been pretty much forgotten. One of the few scholars was historian Alfred Crosby, who taught at my alma mater, the University of Texas at Austin, and wrote a book called “America’s Forgotten Pandemic.”

People know more about pandemics today than they did four decades ago, and about the 1918-1919 flu, we know quite a lot. Scientists have even exhumed bodies buried in Alaskan permafrost to collect samples of the virus. But we still don’t know the source—it’s been alternately speculated to have been France, Kansas (Crosby), or China. The 1918-1919 pandemic is known to be an H1N1 virus with possible avian origins.

I have a bad feeling we may be looking at another awful pandemic.

Oh, there’s a science fiction novel called “The Doomsday Book” by Connie Willis. It’s a time travel novel but in the background is a massive killing pandemic in the present (2054-2055) day.

As you all know, I’ve extensively researched my family tree. Anyhow, I had grown up hearing a story from my mom’s father that he had lost two siblings in the Flu epidemic of those years. Grandpa was the youngest and born in 1929 so I had no idea of knowing for sure. Turned out not to be the case but it’s something that I admit that I never really thought too much about. Each of my grandparents either had a sibling die young or had known miscarriages which was the case here with Grandpa and why there was a big gap between him and his closest sister in age and their next closest one and then there was my Dad’s mother who lost her mother young and lost several first cousins at a young age.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:56:21am

re: #323 mmmirele

But we still don’t know the source—it’s been alternately speculated to have been France, Kansas (Crosby), or China.

The political scientist Andrew Price-Smith got access to the Austrian state archives and published data that suggested that the pandemic kicked off in Austria beginning in early 1917. It was in his 2008 work, “Contagion and Chaos”.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:56:44am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:57:08am

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chevy Chase: “Generalissimo Franco Is Still Dead, but for Some Not Dead Enough”.

I really need to read more about the legacy but it was interesting being in Madrid, Pamplona, and Barcelona. Saw a lot of Basque graffiti in Pamplona.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:57:41am

re: #327 jaunte

HOW DARE YOU SUGGEST WE HAVE MORAL COURAGE, THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:58:42am
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Disloyal Archangel  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:58:43am

re: #286 The Pie Overlord!

Where do they get 424? because דאנאלד טראמפ = 420

Answer: In Israel, his first name is spelled דונאלד, which has a value of 425.
Since that was one too much, they just went ahead and omitted the middle letter Aleph (equivalent to the “a” in Donald), which as a value of 1. In short, they misspelled it to hit the value of 424.

Seems Parnas couldn’t get a desired result with the English Gematric variant, so he went with the Hebrew one, and folks are going about the English variant being the result.
It all comes across as a mess and is just nonsensical no matter how you look at it IMHO.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 26, 2020 • 7:59:56am

re: #307 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

They will unleash “socialist” while ignoring the “democratic” part. Fwiw

And what happens when after Bernie’s the nominee, the Russians reveal that he’s been working for them all along? As I keep on saying, he’s as owned by the Russians as Trump. If you look at his votes in the Senate on most Russian issues, they are all Putin friendly. He managed to be absent from the vote on Deripaska. I wouldn’t count on his being loyal to the “democratic” part of his “democratic socialism” mantra.

[tinfoil]Who knows — perhaps his association with civil rights in the 1960’s may have been part of the Russian campaign to highlight the racism in our nation. [/tinfoil]

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:00:17am

re: #331 Disloyal Archangel

Answer: In Israel, his first name is spelled דונאלד, which has a value of 425.
Since that was one too much, they just went ahead and omitted the middle letter Aleph (equivalent to the “a” in Donald), which as a value of 1. In short, they misspelled it to hit the value of 424.

Seems Parnas couldn’t get a desired result with the English Gematric variant, so he went with the Hebrew one, and folks are going about the English variant being the result.
It all comes across as a mess and is just nonsensical no matter how you look at it IMHO.

So basically you can futz around until you get the values you want.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:01:37am

Shit keeps getting more real by the hour:

Shanghai’s government said on Sunday (Jan 26) it was suspending all long-distance bus services into or out of the city, as the authorities scramble to contain a deadly new virus that has spread across the country.

The measure announced by the financial hub’s transportation commission goes into effect immediately followed a similar move made by the capital Beijing. The cities of Tianjin and Xi’an as well as Hebei province in the north, along with the eastern Shandong province, has also imposed such measures.

Shandong province, with a population of 100 million people, said inter-city buses in the province will only be allowed to leave if stations have temperature screening measures, CCTV said.

From 6pm on Sunday, Xi’an will suspend long-distance buses and tourist chartered buses entering the city of 10 million people, local officials said on the Twitter-like Weibo platform, following the announcement of similar measures in Tianjin and Beijing.

straitstimes.com

Personally, I too have a bad feeling that this could end up being a pretty damn serious pandemic.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:01:50am

re: #333 The Pie Overlord!

So basically you can futz around until you get the values you want.

With “Messiah” there is less futzing around:
משיח = 358
המשיח = 363

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:02:21am

flailing

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Disloyal Archangel  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:03:04am

re: #333 The Pie Overlord!

So basically you can futz around until you get the values you want.

In one word: YUP!
That’s really the point of my 3rd tweet in that thread: as with many other artificial constructs, coding can be made to work however you want it to. The only real “hidden message” is the one you try to push.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:03:10am

re: #331 Disloyal Archangel

re: #333 The Pie Overlord!

That is something that my late mother always said. I still remember when she showed me that 1 + 1 = 2 but it can also be 11.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:03:10am

re: #332 Hecuba’s daughter

And what happens when after Bernie’s the nominee, the Russians reveal that he’s been working for them all along? As I keep on saying, he’s as owned by the Russians as Trump. If you look at his votes in the Senate on most Russian issues, they are all Putin friendly. He managed to be absent from the vote on Deripaska. I wouldn’t count on his being loyal to the “democratic” part of his “democratic socialism” mantra.

Who knows — perhaps his association with civil rights in the 1960’s may have been part of the Russian campaign to highlight the racism in our nation.

I think you may be getting into pretty big territory to suggest that his youthful involvement in Civil Rights was Soviet inspired since a lot of young men and women were disgusted by what they heard about Emmett Till for example. However, if his supporters really think that the RNC and right wing opps research aren’t going to focus on that, they’re naive as shit. IMO, I think Bernie and a lot of the left are the other side of Putin’s coin though of manipulating interests in democratic nations. Bernie isn’t the first left wing candidate that the Kremlin’s forces have used against a more center-left candidate.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:03:16am

re: #323 mmmirele

Back in the early 1980s, when I went to university, the pandemic of 1918-1919 had been pretty much forgotten. One of the few scholars was historian Alfred Crosby, who taught at my alma mater, the University of Texas at Austin, and wrote a book called “America’s Forgotten Pandemic.”

People know more about pandemics today than they did four decades ago, and about the 1918-1919 flu, we know quite a lot. Scientists have even exhumed bodies buried in Alaskan permafrost to collect samples of the virus. But we still don’t know the source—it’s been alternately speculated to have been France, Kansas (Crosby), or China. The 1918-1919 pandemic is known to be an H1N1 virus with possible avian origins.

I have a bad feeling we may be looking at another awful pandemic.

Oh, there’s a science fiction novel called “The Doomsday Book” by Connie Willis. It’s a time travel novel but in the background is a massive killing pandemic in the present (2054-2055) day.

My grandmother, who was 11 at the time and lived till 2013, had vivid memories of the 1918 flu. Her school was closed but not soon enough. Her teacher and 6 of her 26 classmates died. She did not contract the flu but her younger brother did. He survived but was permanently weakened and died in 1938 at age 27. She always said it was the worst public event of her lifetime, which encompassed both world wars and the Great Depression.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:03:51am

re: #309 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)

..what he said
All we need to know

Think how long Bill Cosby and that rapper (forgot name) got away with horrible sex crimes. Money.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:04:34am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

flailing

He seems to have a problem with the very idea that impeachment exists which is consistent with him since he criticized the Clinton impeachment too and I’m sure if he wasn’t on coke in NYC in the 70’s would have said the same about Nixon. Take it up with the Founders, jackass.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:04:51am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

“And Congress Shall Be King.”

So he and WSJ are complaining that the body with the closest representatives to the people is royalist? Orwellian.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:05:22am

re: #341 retired cynic

Think how long Bill Cosby and that rapper (forgot name) got away with horrible sex crimes. Money.

R. Kelly. Yeah, he was basically running his very own little sex cult/harem.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:05:59am

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plansbandc  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:06:03am

re: #117 BigPapa

The Data Lounge (sort of a gay reddit) is absolutely filled to the brim with anti trans rhetoric. It’s really sad.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:07:10am

re: #343 jaunte

So he and WSJ are complaining that the body with the closest representatives to the people is royalist? Orwellian.

Yep all the while standing for a guy who lost the popular vote and has an AG in Barr that advocates for a very powerful executive. But it goes to show you this. Trump will tweet anything that kisses his ass and lies about his opponents.

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Disloyal Archangel  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:07:50am

re: #335 The Pie Overlord!

With “Messiah” there is less futzing around:
משיח = 358
המשיח = 363

Yes, but משיח בן דוד (Messiah son of David - which, for those among you not familiar with the term, is one of the common references to the “Jewish savior”) = 424.
It’s like I wrote above: they were essentially spitballing possibilities until something worked.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:08:03am

re: #340 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My grandmother, who was 11 at the time and lived till 2013, had vivid memories of the 1918 flu. Her school was closed but not soon enough. Her teacher and 6 of her 26 classmates died. She did not contract the flu but her younger brother did. He survived but was permanently weakened and died in 1938 at age 27. She always said it was the worst public event of her lifetime, which encompassed both world wars and the Great Depression.

My grandpa died in the Spanish Flu pandemic while my grandma was pregnant with my dad.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:08:56am

re: #346 plansbandc

The Data Lounge (sort of a gay reddit) is absolutely filled to the brim with anti trans rhetoric. It’s really sad.

I can see why it’s not surprising that Milo emerged then. As a heterosexual white guy, it’s easy for me to assume that one minority group member might have empathy for others but that’s not always the case sadly. It’s why I see the whole Trump movement as a movement of resentments and sadly I think the same is true to some extent with the Sanders. I guess I’m cut from a different cloth but my heroes politically were the liberals of optimism- Franklin, Lincoln, and RFK.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:11:20am

And so I said the mountain glen
I’ll meet at morning early.
And I’ll join the bold united men
While soft winds shook the barley.
‘Twas sad I kissed away her tears

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:15:07am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:18:01am

Having listened to the entire Parnas tape last night. I can’t tell you how disgusted I am. I really felt that I wasn’t listening to a President but a mafia boss talk with his cronies. If Parnas is a spy as some of Trump’s suck-ups are now alleging. Well who the fuck let him into the inner circle? That wouldn’t be Rudy? The same Rudy that Trump uses as his fixer now that Cohen is in prison. I can’t imagine how much dirt other countries have on Trump due to his fat fucking mouth.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:19:13am

Read of a new name for DT in the WaPo comment section: Presidunce.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:19:40am

re: #339 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think you may be getting into pretty big territory to suggest that his youthful involvement in Civil Rights was Soviet inspired since a lot of young men and women were disgusted by what they heard about Emmett Till for example. However, if his supporters really think that the RNC and right wing opps research aren’t going to focus on that, they’re naive as shit. IMO, I think Bernie and a lot of the left are the other side of Putin’s coin though of manipulating interests in democratic nations. Bernie isn’t the first left wing candidate that the Kremlin’s forces have used against a more center-left candidate.

I revised my posting to make clear that the assertion was in tinfoil territory (Had tinfoil originally but words didn’t appear). Loyal Americans supported the civil rights movement and some gave their lives — they weren’t working for a foreign power but for this nation. But Bernie’s subsequent move to the very white, and very small, state of Vermont is curious. And it is very troubling that he views all prejudice through the lens of classical Marxist theory — that the only problem is capitalism and not racism and misogyny.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:22:02am

re: #345 The Pie Overlord!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:23:35am

re: #355 Hecuba’s daughter

I revised my posting to make clear that the assertion was in tinfoil territory (Had tinfoil originally but words didn’t appear). Loyal Americans supported the civil rights movement and some gave their lives — they weren’t working for a foreign power but for this nation. But Bernie’s subsequent move to the very white, and very small, state of Vermont is curious. And it is very troubling that he views all prejudice through the lens of classical Marxist theory — that the only problem is capitalism and not racism and misogyny.

I don’t doubt that he views racism that way. I just think it might be a stretch at this point to say he did so as a willing Soviet dupe. I hate to give the CP-USA any credit but they did oppose lynching while FDR was friendly with the Jim Crow Democrats. I think the move to Vermont was interesting but I’m not sure if it was proof of racism or more a desire like a lot of young people had in that era of wanting to be more with the country. My own aunt who is Bernie’s age moved to Colorado for example.

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Teukka  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:25:05am

re: #317 sagehen

If it turns out to be as bad as we can imagine…

The plague really sucked at the time. Utter misery. But 150 years later, the world was much better off for it having happened. There’s times I think the planet might really appreciate if there was 1/3 fewer people on it.

The problem is that back then, you had a natural damper to pathogen transmission because travel was slow compared to today. 14 days of incubation, aerosol transmissibility, “silent carriers”, and no vaccines… That’s a recipe for a pandemic on par with “The Stand”… 2/3 fewer people in the world is not unlikely with the right pathogen, and that’s just counting direct deaths from the pathogen…

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makeitstop  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:26:10am

Morning thought - is Lev Parnas Vladimir Putin’s final act?

After disrupting a presidential election and convincing millions of Stupid-Americans to emotionally invest in a con man, what better way to throw America into total chaos than to send forth a plant with a ton of incriminating evidence against the con man?

Maybe Putin has decided he’s done with Trump and Parnas is the means to destroy him.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:28:07am

I can’t get twitter links to load this morning. Am I cursed, or is something going on?

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:29:40am

re: #339 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think you may be getting into pretty big territory to suggest that his youthful involvement in Civil Rights was Soviet inspired since a lot of young men and women were disgusted by what they heard about Emmett Till for example. However, if his supporters really think that the RNC and right wing opps research aren’t going to focus on that, they’re naive as shit. IMO, I think Bernie and a lot of the left are the other side of Putin’s coin though of manipulating interests in democratic nations. Bernie isn’t the first left wing candidate that the Kremlin’s forces have used against a more center-left candidate.

It was in the Mueller report that Russian twitter-trolls were specifically told to go after Hillary, support Bernie, “we like Bernie.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:30:06am

re: #359 makeitstop

Morning thought - is Lev Parnas Vladimir Putin’s final act?

After disrupting a presidential election and convincing millions of Stupid-Americans to emotionally invest in a con man, what better way to throw America into total chaos than to send forth a plant with a ton of incriminating evidence against the con man?

Maybe Putin has decided he’s done with Trump and Parnas is the means to destroy him.

It would fit his MO. To be honest, I don’t know but whatever Parnas’ motivations, I don’t see any way this tape is a positive for Trump. At best, it reveals he spouts out anything to those who will listen and shows how uninformed he is. I forgot to mention it last night but he appeared to call the Koreas “gook counties.” And he repeatedly crapped on the EU saying that the EU was formed to destroy America. At best, Trump is an uninformed moron, at worst, a willing pawn of Putin. Truth be told, I think might be in the middle. I definitely think Trump’s ego was played on to encourage him to run for President by people more intelligent with more sinister goals than him.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:31:23am

re: #361 sagehen

It was in the Mueller report that Russian twitter-trolls were specifically told to go after Hillary, support Bernie, “we like Bernie.”

Yes, I just don’t know if Bernie is willingly part of that mission. Bernie/Stein/Gabbard are all part of the Kremlin’s chess game here. The question I have though is what kind of piece is Bernie. I think there’s fair evidence that he is more than an average pawn.

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:32:49am

re: #340 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My grandmother, who was 11 at the time and lived till 2013, had vivid memories of the 1918 flu. Her school was closed but not soon enough. Her teacher and 6 of her 26 classmates died. She did not contract the flu but her younger brother did. He survived but was permanently weakened and died in 1938 at age 27. She always said it was the worst public event of her lifetime, which encompassed both world wars and the Great Depression.

When SARS was happening, a NYC local station did some interviews with old people who could remember and describe the 1918 pandemic. Schools and businesses were closed, people wore face masks every time they had to go out, nobody sat shiva for the dead because they didn’t want that many people in too small a space…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:34:52am

re: #363 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yes, I just don’t know if Bernie is willingly part of that mission. Bernie/Stein/Gabbard are all part of the Kremlin’s chess game here. The question I have though is what kind of piece is Bernie. I think there’s fair evidence that he is more than an average pawn.

Look at his votes on Russian issues — he is a willing partner in this. And Putin is laughing at how he is successfully destroying this nation without firing a single shot.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:35:15am

re: #323 mmmirele

Back in the early 1980s, when I went to university, the pandemic of 1918-1919 had been pretty much forgotten. One of the few scholars was historian Alfred Crosby, who taught at my alma mater, the University of Texas at Austin, and wrote a book called “America’s Forgotten Pandemic.”

People know more about pandemics today than they did four decades ago, and about the 1918-1919 flu, we know quite a lot. Scientists have even exhumed bodies buried in Alaskan permafrost to collect samples of the virus. But we still don’t know the source—it’s been alternately speculated to have been France, Kansas (Crosby), or China. The 1918-1919 pandemic is known to be an H1N1 virus with possible avian origins.

I have a bad feeling we may be looking at another awful pandemic.

Oh, there’s a science fiction novel called “The Doomsday Book” by Connie Willis. It’s a time travel novel but in the background is a massive killing pandemic in the present (2054-2055) day.

The book also gives a pretty solid hint where the pandemic originated from - which is interesting given some recent events involving viruses beyond the Wuhan outbreak.

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mmmirele  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:36:12am

re: #345 The Pie Overlord!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:36:14am

To be truthful, I think a lot of people have been dupes of what I’ll call the “Great Chess Game.” Having recently finished a Putin biography, my conclusion is this about the man. I think Putin thought he could charm the US when he first took over for Yelstin. And I think he did initially with Bush which is why you have the now infamous comment about how Bush looked into his soul but and this old Iraq War protester will give Dubya credit eventually saw Putin for who he was I think around the time of the Orange Revolution in 2004 and I think he hoped that Obama was a fool that he could play in 2009 when Putin if you recall stepped down from the Russian presidency and handed it over to his lieutenant but people in Obama’s circle- HRC saw what Putin was too. And I think that’s why you have old Bush linked individuals who I normally wouldn’t want anything to do with making common cause on Trump with us.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:37:06am

re: #365 Hecuba’s daughter

Look at his votes on Russian issues — he is a willing partner in this. And Putin is laughing at how he is successfully destroying this nation without firing a single shot.

I’m not disagreeing. I’m wondering how big of a piece he is. If he is, he plays it a lot more closer to his hand than Trump does. You’re not going to see a quote of Sanders praising Putin like Trump but maybe that’s part of the game.

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:37:37am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:39:08am

re: #244 jaunte

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:41:58am

re: #365 Hecuba’s daughter

Look at his votes on Russian issues — he is a willing partner in this. And Putin is laughing at how he is successfully destroying this nation without firing a single shot.

Even if we recover, and I have to believe we will, he has been successful in slowing us down so that they can catch up. And I don’t believe he will stop. He has no other options in his war with us. I don’t think they are catching up. He has his own problems!

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:43:41am

An interesting piece of the Parnas tape:

Adam Silverman lays out all of the tweets related to the Parnas tape here: balloon-juice.com. A thing to remember is that this recording is before Democrats started lining up to run for president.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:45:34am

re: #372 retired cynic

Even if we recover, and I have to believe we will, he has been successful in slowing us down so that they can catch up. And I don’t believe he will stop. He has no other options in his war with us. I don’t think they are catching up. He has his own problems!

If you want to consider something crazy, consider this, Putin has been in charge of Russia longer than anyone since Stalin. Khrushchev didn’t last even a decade, Brezhnev came close (we really need to have some more scholarship on him given how long he lasted), Andropov/Cherenenko(twas were nothing but hiccups), and then there was Gorby who lasted a little less than Khrushchev. If Putin were to drop dead tomorrow, do we know who in Russia would take over? I sure as hell don’t know but I hope like hell our smart FP people in and out of the State Department do.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:47:19am

re: #289 Shropshire Slasher

I misread that as “Cats with threatening anus”

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Speaking of cats sphincters. I assume those either got very tight, or very loose

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:48:27am

re: #359 makeitstop

Morning thought - is Lev Parnas Vladimir Putin’s final act?

After disrupting a presidential election and convincing millions of Stupid-Americans to emotionally invest in a con man, what better way to throw America into total chaos than to send forth a plant with a ton of incriminating evidence against the con man?

Maybe Putin has decided he’s done with Trump and Parnas is the means to destroy him.

I think Putin’s tool to bring the house down would be a huge Wikileaks dump of RNC server records, bank account information, etc. etc. Get Trump, *and* the GOP leadership all at once - while having the Twitter bots claim it’s a Democrat-backed coup by the Deep State. And that Fox and the US media companies are trying to cover it up as well.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:49:02am

re: #373 Belafon

An interesting piece of the Parnas tape:

Adam Silverman lays out all of the tweets related to the Parnas tape here: balloon-juice.com. A thing to remember is that this recording is before Democrats started lining up to run for president.

I’m seeing the Bros use the fact that Trump thinks Clinton should have chosen Bernie as his running mate as a way of arguing in bad faith that we need to unify behind Bernie. One thing is for sure, we shouldn’t decide our nominee based on that.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:50:22am

re: #376 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I think Putin’s tool to bring the house down would be a huge Wikileaks dump of RNC server records, bank account information, etc. etc. Get Trump, *and* the GOP leadership all at once - while having the Twitter bots claim it’s a Democrat-backed coup by the Deep State. And that Fox and the US media companies are trying to cover it up as well.

Yeah I think Putin’s big explosion would be showing emails and communications between Republicans who profess loyalty to Trump expressing worry about Trump as their party’s standard bearer.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:50:46am
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:54:59am

re: #148 The Pie Overlord!

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Teddy's Person  Jan 26, 2020 • 8:58:17am

His hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:00:08am

re: #381 Teddy’s Person

His hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Anyone can quote Bible verses as Marco Rubio has showed, few can actually live up to them which Marco and Pompeo and certainly Trump never do. Pompeo works for a man who spreads conspiracy theories about everyone who criticizes him.

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Teukka  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:00:56am

Please press play on this here video as soundtrack to the twitter thread below:

Yakety Sax (Long version)

So Emily has a thread on a Nazi nabbed with a weapon he illegally purchased:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:01:19am

Mass shooting to start the week

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:02:39am

re: #384 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Mass shooting to start the week

Can’t wait to hear how the victims should have been armed because you know being armed and alcohol always end so well. Sigh, fucking guns.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:11:04am

re: #380 Eventual Carrion

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:11:05am

re: #370 Belafon

I remember people playing that game.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:13:22am

re: #386 retired cynic

I answered that as though I was speaking to VB, instead of EC. Apologies for being confusing!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:15:24am

re: #388 retired cynic

I minored in Confusion in college. /half

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unproven innocence  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:16:53am
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:17:51am

re: #237 jaunte

Thank you Mr. Kerry for stating the obvious. Republicans aren’t better than that. They’ve never been better than that - - not since at least Nixon’s administration. Certainly not in my lifetime of 51 years.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:21:52am

re: #390 unproven innocence

About 3 hours ago:

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I’m confused. Did Israel actually bar its citizens from visiting Saudi Arabia? Wasn’t it Saudi Arabia that barred Israelis from visiting it?

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:23:39am

re: #391 Patricia Kayden

Thank you Mr. Kerry for stating the obvious. Republicans aren’t better than that. They’ve never been better than that - - not since at least Nixon’s administration. Certainly not in my lifetime of 51 years.

Ford was excellent. Especially as regards Vietnamese refugees. And HW’s failings were all to do with domestic policy; on FP and nat’l security, he was an all-star.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:25:03am

re: #391 Patricia Kayden

Nor in mine of 66 years. And growing up in a Goldwater-voting family, knowing people who worked in the Reagan White House, I’ve seen it from the inside.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:25:42am

Republicans have always been about their own money.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:29:31am

re: #393 sagehen

Ford was excellent. Especially as regards Vietnamese refugees. And HW’s failings were all to do with domestic policy; on FP and nat’l security, he was an all-star.

The better Republican presidents since Ike left have been ones that the conservatives hated- Ford and Bush I. I have my problems with Bush I but there’s no question to me that the GOP goes in a better direction if he beats out Reagan in 1980. Reagan is frankly a big part of why the GOP became such a shit show and the more the Never Trumpers wake up to that, the better off they’ll be. We can learn from both HW Bush and Ford.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:30:09am

“Join now, it’s where people want to be!!11!!”

jeebus

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:31:36am

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

New, Smart and Nimble REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Same as it ever was.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:32:44am

“New, Smart and Nimble…”

pretty sure that’s supposed to be “Stale, Stupid and Slimy …”

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:33:23am

New, Smart and Nimble REPUBLICAN PARTY!

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:33:43am

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

That sounds more like it.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:33:52am

Look, there’s Clint Eastwood.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:33:56am

rere: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Join now, it’s where people want to be!!11!!”

jeebus

He got those judges and SCOTUS members because Mitch blocked Obama’s appointees. Those aren’t his accomplishments. As for the economy and unemployment, he fucking inheirited it from Obama. I’ve seen a wingnut meme and FNC is pushing it and this is how I know Trump is the new Reagan, it uses the unemployment numbers in the President’s three years and uses that to go “See, this is why Trump is awesome and everyone else sucks.” BY their own metric, Reagan is a failuer too.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:34:36am

I used to have a copy of that poster. Should have protected it better, it’s for sale in some places for $1500.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:34:40am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

flailing

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Wherein Schiff allegedly not releasing testimony of 1 of 18 witnesses is a coverup, but blocking all subpoenas for testimony and documents is a strategy for obtaining the truth.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:34:55am
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jaunte  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:36:41am
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Eventual Carrion  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:39:26am

re: #201 Chrysicat

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We already gave Russia a few bases in the middle east. What’s a few donated missiles elsewhere.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:40:01am
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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:41:19am

This is a wonderful article! I’m in tears.

The Polish hero who volunteered to go to Auschwitz — and warned the world about the Nazi death machine

It wasn’t until the 1990s that Zofia and Andrzej Pilecki found out their father was a hero. As teens in postwar Poland, they had been told he was a traitor and an enemy of the state, and they listened to news reports about his 1948 trial and execution on the school radio.
In fact, Witold Pilecki was a Polish resistance fighter who voluntarily went to Auschwitz to start a resistance, and he sent secret messages to the Allies, becoming the first to sound the alarm about the true nature of Nazi Germany’s largest concentration and extermination camp.
Auschwitz was liberated 75 years ago on Monday. In a new book, “The Volunteer: One Man, an Underground Army, and the Secret Mission to Destroy Auschwitz,” former war correspondent Jack Fairweather unearths the story of Pilecki’s heroism. …

I’m not sure I could be able to read that book. The discussion of the Polish resistance is one that I have read about in the novel, While Still We Live.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:41:23am

re: #409 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I agree. NPR needs the money to fight DT.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:43:36am

re: #409 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

AAAAAA! I am a calendar club member of my local NPR station, and every year, they fall a bit short of getting what they need. Any Democratic administration needs to fully support the public broadcasting networks!!!! And the post offices!!!!

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unproven innocence  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:43:40am

re: #392 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m confused. Did Israel actually bar its citizens from visiting Saudi Arabia? Wasn’t it Saudi Arabia that barred Israelis from visiting it?

I’m not clear on what it means either, but apparently, Israeli citizens are now allowed to travel to SA for business purposes or for a pilgrimage to Mecca, provided they also have an “official invitation” from SA government.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:44:21am

re: #409 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If he had his way, he would divert NPR’s funds to FNC. And they’re not really even denying that Pompeo was a jerk to Mary Louise Kelly. They’re attacking her based on her employer and that she dared to ask our Secretary of State a question.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:44:25am

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

Well, this is not the cheeriest of news:

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Yeah, a lot of times science doesn’t give us answers we want to hear.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:46:01am

re: #349 The Pie Overlord!

My grandpa died in the Spanish Flu pandemic while my grandma was pregnant with my dad.

Grandma Bacon was working at the Navy Dept. HQ during WWI as a clerk. She knew FDR when he was the Assistant Secretary of the Navy under Wilson. She got a bad case of the flu the year before the pandemic that left her sick for a month. What she told me about the pandemic was scary! People would start a cough in the morning, but by the afternoon they collapsed and died. Corpses were stacked in school gyms and warehouses. Schools and churches were closed. Everyone went around wearing masks some had them soaked with camphor. Several coworkers including FDR’s assistant and main clerk died. FDR paid for their funerals and final expenses.

Grandma said she lived thru 2 nightmares in her life—the Spanish Flu and the Depression and she NEVER wanted to re-live either one.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:46:02am

re: #410 retired cynic

This is a wonderful article! I’m in tears.

The Polish hero who volunteered to go to Auschwitz — and warned the world about the Nazi death machine

I’m not sure I could be able to read that book. The discussion of the Polish resistance is one that I have read about in the novel, While Still We Live.

We’re getting further away from the men and women who were able to bear witness to the camps first hand and I really think that’s really played a big role in what’s spread denialism. I was fortunate to visit Auschwitz when I went to Slovakia and Poland two years ago. I felt I had to go. I won’t lie to you all. I cried like hell.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:48:19am
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BigPapa  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:49:08am

re: #375 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That poodle is Original Prankster

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:51:03am

re: #416 Joe Bacon 🌹

Grandma Bacon was working at the Navy Dept. HQ during WWI as a clerk. She knew FDR when he was the Assistant Secretary of the Navy under Wilson. She got a bad case of the flu the year before the pandemic that left her sick for a month. What she told me about the pandemic was scary! People would start a cough in the morning, but by the afternoon they collapsed and died. Corpses were stacked in school gyms and warehouses. Schools and churches were closed. Everyone went around wearing masks some had them soaked with camphor. Several coworkers including FDR’s assistant and main clerk died. FDR paid for their funerals and final expenses.

Grandma said she lived thru 2 nightmares in her life—the Spanish Flu and the Depression and she NEVER wanted to re-live either one.

Joe, I was thinking about your grandmother and many of lizardom’s grandparents generations when I watched 1917 the other day. The WWII generation- the children of your grandparents generation gets a lot of attention and rightfully so becaues of WWII but I was thinking about their parents. Thought about my own 8 great grandparents and the vast ranges of experiences of life between the 8 of em. On the one end, you have my father’s maternal grandfather born in Sharon, Pa before the telephone was invented and then you have my mom’s maternal grandmother born close to the dawn of the 20th century in rural Slovakia. All of them were impacted by the world wars, depression, and flu epidemic except my Dad’s maternal grandmother who died in the early 20’s. Unfortunately, my parents didn’t really know their grandparents that well or had and I don’t mean this as a diss on my parents but my fascination with the older generations and their legacies.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:54:17am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:54:41am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:55:23am

re: #418 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Carpetbagger Cenk up to his usual tricks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:55:44am
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BigPapa  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:56:14am

I’d like to see 1917 but I may not. My favorite movie is probably Saving Private Ryan but I may never watch it again. It just get too emotionally wrecked and full of dread. I’ve been listenting to Vietnam vet interviews on YouTube lately which are riveting. War is the most serious thing and it’s fucking chaos and madness. That’s why I have seething rage at motherfuckers who have such a cavalier attitude about it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 26, 2020 • 9:57:25am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jan 26, 2020 • 10:03:20am

Going to see 1917 today. Think of Grandpa Bacon who served as a combat engineer…14 years later he was a Bonus Marcher who got gassed by MacArthur…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 10:05:51am

re: #427 Joe Bacon 🌹

Going to see 1917 today. Think of Grandpa Bacon who served as a combat engineer…14 years later he was a Bonus Marcher who got gassed by MacArthur…

MacArthur is probably one of my least favorite military men from that era. I’m starting to really appreciate Pershing as I read a Marshall biography though. Pershing was against WIlson segregating the military and though he was a Republican, he supported FDR on Lend-Lease and helping the Allies before Pearl Harbor. I don’t dispute that MacArthur was an able general but I’m glad for all his faults that we elected the right WWII general in 1952 and my Dad’s Mom loved Stevenson.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 26, 2020 • 10:09:09am

I’m probably going to see Citizen K next week. That one is a documentary about a former Putin ally turned opponent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 26, 2020 • 10:10:47am
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Disloyal Archangel  Jan 26, 2020 • 10:14:36am

re: #345 The Pie Overlord!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 26, 2020 • 10:20:00am

re: #392 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m confused. Did Israel actually bar its citizens from visiting Saudi Arabia? Wasn’t it Saudi Arabia that barred Israelis from visiting it?

Wouldn’t the Muslim citizens of Israel want the opportunity to visit Mecca?

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Jay C  Jan 26, 2020 • 10:20:00am

re: #421 Patricia Kayden

Is is really likely that that 1974 cartoon was from The New Yorker? It’s by Herblock, and he was employed by the Washington Post (though syndicated nationwide) for virtually his whole career.

re: #428 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

MacArthur is probably one of my least favorite military men from that era. I’m starting to really appreciate Pershing as I read a Marshall biography though. Pershing was against WIlson segregating the military and though he was a Republican, he supported FDR on Lend-Lease and helping the Allies before Pearl Harbor. I don’t dispute that MacArthur was an able general but I’m glad for all his faults that we elected the right WWII general in 1952 and my Dad’s Mom loved Stevenson.

Agree about Pershing, disagree (partly) about MacArthur: I think he was - with one exception - enormously overrated as a general, but evaded much (if not all) criticism during the war because he was An Official Goddam Hero to the press and public, and no one (in that era) wanted to tarnish his rep.

The exception, btw, is the Incheon Landings of September, 1950 (Korean War) - a risky and potentially disastrous maneuver: the Bay of Incheon, IIRC, has huge tides in it, and the amphibious landings had to be timed and executed perfectly with very little leeway. They were, and Mac turned the Korean War around thereby. He went on to mess it up, though: but at least he got one operation right…

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jan 26, 2020 • 2:19:14pm

re: #268 The Pie Overlord!

Now we are going to see a bunch of Bernoid safaris.

Los Angeles Times
As Sanders drives through the city in his Chevy Aveo, he sees a city that reflects his world view

Very small and overwhelmingly white


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