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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 9:57:43am

Got CL’d on last thread.

re: #619 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Looked like he got on a MAGA bus. But joking aside, Trump bragging about his victory last night in Iowa is Peak Trump.

It’s just like his bragging about his approval among REPUBLICANS.

It’s just like saying: “Hey, most Nazis really love Hitler!” or being impressed at how many Packers fans are in the stands at Lambeau for a game.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 9:59:48am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Got CL’d on last thread.

It’s just like his bragging about his approval among REPUBLICANS.

It’s just like saying: “Hey, most Nazis really love Hitler!” or being impressed at how many Packers fans are in the stands at Lambeau for a game.

It really quite honestly one of the most pathetic things I’ve seen from a politician. Like yeah dude we get it, you’re overwhelmingly popular in your own party. It’s not shocking but the 9-5 President just has to be the world’s biggest Twitter troll.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:01:26am

And the rat-fucking begins in earnest in South Carolina. Just got this email from the county party:

We are getting reports that word is spreading that the primary is cancelled or that it is on Tuesday next week.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:02:47am

re: #3 BeachDem

Ugh.

Please don’t tell me this primary season is going to be one long continuous clusterfuck.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:03:26am
Republican Senators including Lamar Alexander, Lisa Murkowski and Marco Rubio spent the weekend offering lame justifications for their vote against calling witnesses in the Trump impeachment trial.

If we allowed witnesses, then there would be witnesses.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:03:27am

re: #3 BeachDem

And the rat-fucking begins in earnest in South Carolina. Just got this email from the county party:

We are getting reports that word is spreading that the primary is cancelled or that it is on Tuesday next week.

They have no primary of their own to keep them from indulging their most spiteful, petty and underhanded pranks.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:04:03am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:04:45am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh.

Please don’t tell me this primary season is going to be one long continuous clusterfuck.

When your shrimp and grits is actually borscht and more borscht.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:05:40am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Yeah, I don’t need to know instantly. This caucus isn’t going to be what determines the primary. As I said, looks like a lot of people may be getting poker chips last night. Now on to New Hampshire and to South Carolina.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:06:31am

re: #8 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

When your shrimp and grits is actually borscht and more borscht.

We don’t need Russians to fuck things up here; we have more than enough Republicans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:07:44am

re: #10 BeachDem

We don’t need Russians to fuck things up here; we have more than enough Republicans.

GOP is working for the Russians, remember?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:08:53am

Latest Darwin Award winners!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:09:53am

re: #10 BeachDem

We don’t need Russians to fuck things up here; we have more than enough Republicans.

True.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:09:54am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:10:18am

re: #11 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GOP is working for the Russians, remember?

Not necessarily for but for the benefit of.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:11:12am
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Belafon  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:11:36am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh.

Please don’t tell me this primary season is going to be one long continuous clusterfuck.

The GOP has been doing this since the 70s.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:13:48am

re: #17 Belafon

The GOP has been doing this since the 70s.

Yeah i misspoke when I said borscht. This is closer to Atwater’s game. Btw has anyone started the new docuseries on Ted Bundy’s ex girlfriend? I knew Bundy had been involved in Republican politics but did not realize he was kind of doing some ratfuck tricks. Who knows, maybe in an alternative universe, we’re bemoaning President Bundy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:21:56am

re: #14 Charles Johnson


And then when we get those accurate results, maybe it’s time for Iowa to have a real primary election instead of this ridiculous caucus stuff.

The problem is, that Iowa won’t pay for a primary.
Another option is for the DNC to refuse to let Iowa go first in the primary season

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:23:30am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

The problem is, that Iowa won’t pay for a primary.
Another option is for the DNC to refuse to let Iowa go first in the primary season

They can’t do that either. They could refuse to accept the ballots. I wonder if that would hurt Democrats chances in the state, though.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:27:20am

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

Latest Darwin Award winners!

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wait, I think the problem….

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:27:53am

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

Latest Darwin Award winners!

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I sincerely hope that this shocking scene is a joke. As a bonus, just in case it’s real, they look young enough not to have reproduced yet.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:29:08am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:31:56am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Yeah this is gonna be a bonkers SOTU. I just hope it’s his last. I know you’re talking about election but the SOTU and the respnse are a part of that. I just feel so sick about all of it. I just want to get a good nominee and take out Trump.

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:33:41am

Kos is hashing through some ideas on redoing the primaries, but includes this little tidbit:

I broke both my legs in a scooter accident and am in too much pain to do so. Wear helmets, people. Mine probably saved my life, or at least my brain.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:33:59am
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plansbandc  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:36:19am

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jaunte  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:38:45am

Is anyone going to enforce the law on Rand Paul revealing the name of the whistle blower, or is it just another IOKIYAR?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:39:35am

re: #28 jaunte

Is anyone going to enforce the law on Rand Paul revealing the name of the whistle blower, or is it just another IOKIYAR?

Unless someone steps forward to prosecute him, his crime will continue to go unpunished.

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retired cynic  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:41:13am

From my good senator (both of mine are good):

Like most Illinoisans, there is a special place in my heart for Lake Michigan.

But more recently, extreme weather & flooding in Illinois has had a major impact on the environment, infrastructure, and economy of the Lake Michigan shoreline. If this weather continues, it will do untold damage to the future of our beloved Great Lake. Link: chicagotribune.com

Climate change threatens so much of what Lake Michigan provides to our state: recreation and relaxation by the shore, clean drinking water, and natural beauty. Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle must recognize the challenge climate change presents and support legislation that addresses both mitigation and resiliency.

Along with a group of bipartisan Senators, I’ve repeatedly called on the Trump Administration to move forward to fund and complete the Great Lakes Coastal Resiliency Study. This study would identify areas in the Great Lakes that are vulnerable to climate change and recommend measures and infrastructure to increase resilience.

I’ve also called on the Army Corps of Engineers to help expand the shoreline project to additional sections of the lakeshore and protect against rising lake levels. I recently spoke to the Assistant Secretary of the Army (ASA) for Civil Works, R.D. James, who oversees the Army Corps, and urged him to make these projects a top priority in this year’s budget.

The bottom line is this: we need to wake up and work together to strengthen our shorelines by letting science, not politics, guide our actions. Lake Michigan has been great to us, and it’s about time we return the favor.
Sincerely,
U.S. Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:43:08am

re: #30 retired cynic

From my good senator (both of mine are good):

But both sides you know. PS, I really admire both of your senators.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:44:46am
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gocart mozart  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:45:25am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:47:34am

re: #33 gocart mozart

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Says Glenn who does nothing but shit talk on Twitter.

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mmmirele  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:47:57am

re: #27 plansbandc

This Japanese kanji means insect:

Its kunyomi (or Japanese, as opposed to Chinese onyomi) pronunciation is むし. Or “moo-shi”.

The mnemonic for remembering what the kanji means and how to pronounce it is “mush insect.” Your cartoon reminded me of that.

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gocart mozart  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:48:10am

David Crosby really hates the Dooes

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:49:18am

re: #36 gocart mozart

David Crosby really hates the Dooes

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Ouch. But I prefer The Byrds, CSN, & CSNY to the Doors.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:50:29am

re: #24 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah this is gonna be a bonkers SOTU. I just hope it’s his last. I know you’re talking about election but the SOTU and the respnse are a part of that. I just feel so sick about all of it. I just want to get a good nominee and take out Trump.

I can’t wait to not watch this SOTU tonight.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:51:12am

re: #38 Sir John Barron

I can’t wait to not watch this SOTU tonight.

Ditto.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:53:29am

War crimes is becoming the American trademark.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 10:58:56am

re: #40 Dread Pirate

War crimes is becoming the American trademark.

And morons still want to act like Trump was the dove four years ago. There was no fucking dove.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:00:45am

What I’m going home to.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:01:01am

Regarding the Iowa caucus flapdoodle, a friend’s sister in Des Moines told her “we’re better at corn and if you wanted results you should have called it corn on the caucus.”

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PrairieQueen  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:04:29am

Per Wiki:

The Iowa caucuses are noteworthy as the first major contest of the United States presidential primary season. Although caucus-goers have been unrepresentative of the nation’s overall ethnic demographic, caucuses are still seen by some as a strong indicator of how a presidential candidate will do in later contests.

With all the other shit we’re swimming in at the moment, this is barely the first leg of a marathon.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:04:35am

re: #35 mmmirele

This Japanese kanji means insect:

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Its kunyomi (or Japanese, as opposed to Chinese onyomi) pronunciation is むし. Or “moo-shi”.

The mnemonic for remembering what the kanji means and how to pronounce it is “mush insect.” Your cartoon reminded me of that.

Cool. This is the character for tooth/teeth: 歯 (pronounced ‘ha’)
Combine it with 虫 and you get “mushiba,” which means dental cavity or bad tooth
(虫歯)

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:05:00am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:05:45am

re: #46 lawhawk

Not a bad idea on his part. No one really won last night and he can increase his exposure. He’s not my pick though. Warren, Klobuchar, or Biden.

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:05:55am

re: #46 lawhawk

I would love to seem him getting GOTV efforts started.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:08:58am

I must say I have been impressed by Bloombergs advertising thus far.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:10:17am

re: #49 Eclectic Cyborg

I must say I have been impressed by Bloombergs advertising thus far.

Yeah I’m not sold on him as a candidate but I don’t mind him as a foil against Trump. Trump must go nuts because Bloomberg as far as his accomplishments as both a man businessman, and politician are everything that Trump is not.

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William Lewis  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:11:40am

re: #50 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I’m not sold on him as a candidate but I don’t mind him as a foil against Trump. Trump must go nuts because Bloomberg as far as his accomplishments as both a man businessman, and politician are everything that Trump is not.

Or even more nuts than he went when Bloomberg was asked why he thought we needed two billionaires running and he asked “Who’s the other one?”

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PrairieQueen  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:11:41am

re: #50 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’d love to see Bloomberg spend some cash in a campaign war, only because he isn’t Trump and can afford it. If he conveys the right ideas it could help which ever Dem rises to the top of the heap, and that’s a good thing.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:13:39am

re: #25 Belafon

Kos is hashing through some ideas on redoing the primaries, but includes this little tidbit:

When I fractured my neck mountain biking, the orderly wheeling me back and forth to cat scan and mri etc was telling about the number of DOA and DSAA* from extremely minor bike accidents - like falling over while stationary - where there was no helmet being worn. My helmet had a deep pointy dent in the forehead area. I don’t want to speculate what that whatever-it-was would have done to me sans helmet. (My sunglasses appear to have saved an eye, as well.)
Somewhere there is a picture of me, bandaged, bloody, and doped to the gills, pitching my wife on the idea that if I had a full-suspension bike, the accident would not have happened. Apparently I had a hard time getting through the pitch without laughing.

*Dead Soon After Arrival. Not official medical lingo as far as I know.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:14:29am

re: #51 William Lewis

Or even more nuts than he went when Bloomberg was asked why he thought we needed two billionaires running and he asked “Who’s the other one?”

He also addressed the idea that he’s against Trump because “he hates him” pretty well. He’s able to explain why Trump is wrong for the coutnry pretty well IMO.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:15:30am

re: #52 PrairieQueen

I’d love to see Bloomberg spend some cash in a campaign war, only because he isn’t Trump and can afford it. If he conveys the right ideas it could help which ever Dem rises to the top of the heap, and that’s a good thing.

I mean this is the world that Republican justices wanted where money = speech, Mike can have at it. Mike unlike Trump actually is self made, ran a successful business, and did a decent job as mayor.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:15:56am

And still nobody’s heard a thing from teleskiguy?

This worries me.

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:16:55am
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sagehen  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:16:59am

re: #48 Belafon

I would love to seem him getting GOTV efforts started.

You mean like this? (January 11 article)

Michael Bloomberg campaigns against voter suppression at voters rights summit in Georgia
The private event was organized by Stacey Abrams’ Fair Fight 2020 Initiative and held in the city of Atlanta
thegrio.com

For the first time since announcing his 2020 presidential run in late November, Michael Bloomberg visited Atlanta, GA. On Friday, the Presidential nominee hopeful kicked off his schedule with an early morning stop at an invite-only voting rights summit organized by Stacey Abrams’ Fair Fight 2020 Initiative. While there, Bloomberg shared detailed thoughts on voting and voter suppression with the handful of media outlets in the room.

Those unaware of the history between Bloomberg and Abrams might raise an eyebrow at their alliance. Bloomberg, however, has been a long time and an early financial supporter of Abrams. She shared that history as she introduced him to the attendees. According to Abrams, when she launched the New Georgia Project in 2014 intending to register 800,000 unregistered voters in the state by 2024, Bloomberg was a generous donor. Then in 2018, when Abrams dared to run for governor of Georgia, a feat that would have made her the first Black woman to hold that position in this country, Bloomberg donated significantly to her campaign.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:17:03am

re: #56 i(m)p(each)sos

And still nobody’s heard a thing from teleskiguy?

This worries me.

Ditto. I know BigPapa and Charles both messaged him and I think BP even reached out to Charlie’s family. I hope he’s okay. It’s been a really tough year here already. I hope he’s okay.

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retired cynic  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:18:05am

re: #56 i(m)p(each)sos

And still nobody’s heard a thing from teleskiguy?

This worries me.

I am really worried, but my hope is that he could not stand the current political climate any more (who can? not I!), and is skiing as much as he possibly can.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:19:57am

re: #60 retired cynic

I am really worried, but my hope is that he could not stand the current political climate any more (who can? not I!), and is skiing as much as he possibly can.

Yeah I hope he’s just enjoying himself in the outdoors. It definitely is a stressful time.

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gocart mozart  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:22:06am
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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:22:57am
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KGxvi  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:23:15am

re: #57 lawhawk

Republicans won one of twelve contests in New Jersey in 2018. So, in a sense, they’ve nowhere to go but up. But their only loss within 2% was the third district; a district that went for Trump 51-45 in 2018. So, there’s potential for them to pick up a seat, or maybe two, but with Trump on the top of the ticket, I’d have to think those chances aren’t particularly good for them.

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:24:46am

re: #58 sagehen

You mean like this? (January 11 article)

Michael Bloomberg campaigns against voter suppression at voters rights summit in Georgia
The private event was organized by Stacey Abrams’ Fair Fight 2020 Initiative and held in the city of Atlanta
thegrio.com

For the first time since announcing his 2020 presidential run in late November, Michael Bloomberg visited Atlanta, GA. On Friday, the Presidential nominee hopeful kicked off his schedule with an early morning stop at an invite-only voting rights summit organized by Stacey Abrams’ Fair Fight 2020 Initiative. While there, Bloomberg shared detailed thoughts on voting and voter suppression with the handful of media outlets in the room.

Those unaware of the history between Bloomberg and Abrams might raise an eyebrow at their alliance. Bloomberg, however, has been a long time and an early financial supporter of Abrams. She shared that history as she introduced him to the attendees. According to Abrams, when she launched the New Georgia Project in 2014 intending to register 800,000 unregistered voters in the state by 2024, Bloomberg was a generous donor. Then in 2018, when Abrams dared to run for governor of Georgia, a feat that would have made her the first Black woman to hold that position in this country, Bloomberg donated significantly to her campaign.

I remember seeing that and it’s pretty cool. I’m kind of Texas centric when it comes to GOTV, and so I would love to see a bunch of money spent here. I think it would really make a difference. Maybe Bloomberg could coordinate with Beto on it.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:25:14am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:25:47am

Truthfully, I just remain exhausted by this.re: #65 Belafon

I remember seeing that and it’s pretty cool. I’m kind of Texas centric when it comes to GOTV, and so I would love to see a bunch of money spent here. I think it would really make a difference. Maybe Bloomberg could coordinate with Beto on it.

We’re definitely going to need surrogates to win this. Beto is someone I would love to see in your state and that region as a whole.

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KGxvi  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:26:01am

re: #63 Dread Pirate

Given Republican political instincts over the last decade and a half or so, I almost feel like Bernie might be the right choice. Every fucking time they’ve done the “don’t throw us in the briar patch” thing, they’ve gotten stuck in the briar patch like a bunch of fucking idiots.

That said, I still don’t trust Bernie and do think he’ll be a disaster in the general and the Oval Office.

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:26:13am

re: #64 KGxvi

They’re hoping everyone has a very short memory. What they seem to ignore is that people are still rightfully pissed at Trump and the GOP, and it’s not going to help Van Drew either. It’s likely setting up for another GOP wipeout in NJ.

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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:26:42am

re: #59 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Ditto. I know BigPapa and Charles both messaged him and I think BP even reached out to Charlie’s family. I hope he’s okay. It’s been a really tough year here already. I hope he’s okay.

I Messaged two sisters on Facebook but no response yet. They seemed like ‘weekly’ posters, not daily. I’ll move on down the list now.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:28:33am

re: #70 BigPapa

I Messaged two sisters on Facebook but no response yet. They seemed like ‘weekly’ posters, not daily. I’ll move on down the list now.

Thanks for all you’re doing. And if anyone wants my contact info, I’ll feel free to share it but please private message me because I don’t like my real name being on the internets outside my FB and LinkedIn.

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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:29:42am

I just pinged Dad. He seems to post every day or other.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:31:28am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:31:34am

You know one thing I never thought about but there were actually places where HRC did better than Obama. I think I saw someone post somewhere in an attempt to debunk the economic anxiety nonsense that the former Obama places that Trump won were places that saw increases in Hispanics. MEanwhile Clinton actually and I think Belafon can vouch for me made some gains in the Texas metro areas and also Arizona. I remember that a lot of people gave Clinton crap about Wisconsin but she was also campaigning in Ohio constantly and also Arizona.

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makeitstop  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:31:48am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

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I had friends in high school who loved The Doors. Although I like a few of their songs better now than I did while they were working, I never got the attraction.

Densmore was an okay drummer, but I could not stand to listen to Robby Krieger’s guitar work and thought Manzarek had a few riffs he played over and over and over.

I always imagined that had Morrisson lived, he would have ended up as the hippie version of Elvis, overweight and proclaiming himself the Lizard King at some casino in Vegas. Maybe shooting a TV here and there.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:34:51am

re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I really wish someone preferably in the Warren campaign would tell the Berners this. You guys wanted to keep the caucuses, you guys wanted ranked vote, and you wanted transparency. You’re getting all 3. Stop fucking falling and pushing conspiracy theories because it looks like your candidate may have lost legitimately by the same rules that his delegates got installed. They want to act like the DNC is this corrupt political body but I got news for them, the DNC has Bernie supporters in it and hell I’m pretty sure Keith Ellison- a former Bernie backer is vice chair but that never gets mentioned because they need their persecution complex.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:34:52am

And, it’s my spirit animal

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Citizen K  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:35:09am

I honest to god wish I could afford to drink at this point. The Caucus is a legit mess, but it’s only going to be magnified by a press desperate to write Trump’s victory speech for him just so they can kick dirt into the Dem’s face more.

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William Lewis  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:35:36am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

I can get that though I went through a phase… still, I have better feelings about Ray Manzerek because 1) he was working with Morrison and that would set hard limits on what they could actually accomplish and 2) he did some great work later, especially with X in the LA punk scene.

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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:36:55am

re: #78 Citizen K

Dems in Disarray!

(runs around hollerin)

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:36:55am

re: #75 makeitstop

I had friends in high school who loved The Doors. Although I like a few of their songs better now than I did while they were working, I never got the attraction.

Densmore was an okay drummer, but I could not stand to listen to Robby Krieger’s guitar work and thought Manzarek had a few riffs he played over and over and over.

I always imagined that had Morrisson lived, he would have ended up as the hippie version of Elvis, overweight and proclaiming himself the Lizard King at some casino in Vegas. Maybe shooting a TV here and there.

I was going to post the same thing. Also, that annoying thing where DJs back in the day felt compelled to play “Riders on the Storm” on every rainy day. “Like a dog without a bone.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:38:07am
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William Lewis  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:39:18am

re: #66 Charles Johnson

And it could have been worse - just as John McCain’s father was an admiral so was Jim Morrison’s. He could have gone to Annapolis, become a meh officer and then a Republican politician from some southern state O_o

I’d say the world was better off that he went with being a hack musician beloved of teen aged boys instead.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:41:52am

“Sure, I’ll happily spend the next several hours stewing in a recirculated atmosphere with you folks”

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:42:26am

re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

For me, blaming Russia is more of a code for “don’t trust information that sounds fishy, especially if it confirms your worldview” than actually thinking Russia did it. We’ve got to go with “that’s crap, what’s your source” rather than just jumping on stuff.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:43:45am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:45:28am

re: #85 Belafon

For me, blaming Russia is more of a code for “don’t trust information that sounds fishy, especially if it confirms your worldview” than actually thinking Russia did it. We’ve got to go with “that’s crap, what’s your source” rather than just jumping on stuff.

I definitely get a stink eye when someone posts something so absurdly easy to debunk and with English that is just a tad off.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:47:06am

re: #75 makeitstop

Morrison has a totally undeserved reputation as a poet and lyricist. His lyrics were pure garbage - managed to be pseudo-profound and painfully clichéd at the same time.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:48:20am

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:48:20am

re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I do agree with her on this: The campaigns themselves need to stop spredding this stuff.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:48:45am

Doors were one of those 60’s bands I liked growing up but not I loved. I would sooner have a Gram Parsons poster in my room than a Jim Morrison one.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:49:51am

re: #90 Belafon

I do agree with her on this: The campaigns themselves need to stop spredding this stuff.

The Warren camp to me seems to have had the best take. If her end goal is to present herself as a healer between the Biden and Bernie wins, I really would like her to succeed there. I probably prefer Biden to her at this point but Biden has his own problems too.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:50:01am

I actually wrote a scathing review of that concert for my high school paper. All these years later I still remember how bad it was.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:50:13am

re: #89 GlutenFreeJesus

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Carry on my wayward moon.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:51:10am

re: #55 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Exactly. And Bloomberg might not be Superman, but I know he isn’t a Brownshirt. Right now the GOP is like a legion of Brownshirts and they are spreading like cancer.

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:52:29am

re: #88 Charles Johnson

So, among those bands/acts you have seen, who would you consider to be the best concert you’ve attended (including those you’ve played in)?

I’ve been to a bunch of shows, and I know the ones that stand out - Pink Floyd during Division Bell, Woodstock 94 (NIN being the standout act; CSN was good, but Melissa Etheridge also stood out as did Peter Gabriel and RHCP).

Some lesser shows that I thought needed something more: 2cellos and Of Monsters and Men - both could have been longer but I think that’s more of an issue over catalog length than their skills.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:54:09am

Do any re: #95 PrairieQueen

Exactly. And Bloomberg might not be Superman, but I know he isn’t a Brownshirt. Right now the GOP is like a legion of Brownshirts and they are spreading like cancer.

Correct.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:55:15am

re: #96 lawhawk

So, among those bands/acts you have seen, who would you consider to be the best concert you’ve attended (including those you’ve played in)?

I’ve been to a bunch of shows, and I know the ones that stand out - Pink Floyd during Division Bell, Woodstock 94 (NIN being the standout act; CSN was good, but Melissa Etheridge also stood out as did Peter Gabriel and RHCP).

Some lesser shows that I thought needed something more: 2cellos and Of Monsters and Men - both could have been longer but I think that’s more of an issue over catalog length than their skills.

Of Monsters and Men. Saw em live for free when they started out. Regret not getting a tee.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:58:29am
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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 11:59:31am

re: #96 lawhawk

There’d be a lot! I’d actually put some of the shows we did with Al Jarreau in there. We had some pretty freaking magical nights, especially when Steve Gadd was playing drums.

I just saw Peter Gabriel once, but that was definitely one of the best ever. And I’ll always remember a Joni Mitchell concert from back in the day, because I was totally crushing on her and her voice was just incredible.

There was one Todd Rundgren concert too, right at the beginning of a tour so his voice was in perfect condition and he absolutely nailed a whole bunch of his songs. Blew me away. Watch out when he gets to the end of a tour though; I don’t think he ever learned how to sing properly without blowing out his voice.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:02:32pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:02:53pm

re: #53 Jebediah, RBG

*Dead Soon After Arrival. Not official medical lingo as far as I know.

It’s semi-official EMS lingo, though.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:03:20pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

Bingo.

The core of most conspiracy theories is they conveniently place the blame on people and institutions BESIDES those that are actually directly responsible.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:04:25pm
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Citizen K  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:04:28pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

Maybe because, try to bear with me here, the conspiracy theories are taking valuable attention away from meaningfully addressing the massive institutional failure

And far too often, these kind of conspiracy theories are excuses to blame shift toward folks actually trying to address these institutional failures and away from those actually responsible for the failures. And usually by those holding grievances and grudges from unrelated things.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:05:13pm

re: #103 Eclectic Cyborg

Bingo.

The core of most conspiracy theories is they conveniently place the blame on people and institutions BESIDES those that are actually directly responsible.

They usually target marginalized groups. It’s sick. It’s why while I obviously had no love for the Bush Doctrine, the truthers and Alex Jones was among disgusted me.

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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:05:33pm

A close friend of mine was Joni Mitchell’s lighting guy for a tour or two, we ended up doing a lot of lighting control systems when he left touring. Said she was a great singer and great person and he reminisced about her shows frequently.

Best shows I remember: Stevie Ray Vaughn about 3 months before he died, with Jeff Back and Terry Bozzio opening. That was a show.

Most shocking: went to go see Red Hot Chili Peppers and saw Primus and Limbomaniacs with no idea of who they were or their sound. My metal days were over that night. A few months later, went to see Primus again, saw some weird band called Faith No More.

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William Lewis  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:06:01pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

I actually wrote a scathing review of that concert for my high school paper. All these years later I still remember how bad it was.

Heh. Made me try to think if I have ever seen a show I thought was really bad. The closest I can think of (outside of drunken Replacements trying to be a bad cover band) was a fill in opening act but I was going to be disappointed no matter what - it was supposed to be The Boomtown Rats opening for Gary Neuman but the Rats had to cancel due to an injury and I had only come for them.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:07:23pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:07:47pm
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BigPapa  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:08:23pm

Going to make somebody mad here: worst I can recall was Crosby Stills and Nash at the Shoreline in Mountain View. Maybe it was them, maybe it was because I was in a box seat with a bunch of pretentious rich people who complained about the service and talked through the whole show only to jump up and holler for a verse or two when a song they recognized came up.

Maybe it wasn’t CSN. Maybe it was.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:09:49pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:11:09pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

What’s the deal with Liz Bruenig, did she drop some acid?

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I dunno but she lost me when she pushed O’Rourke as the big oil money candidate became he got donations from the oil and gas industry workers who you know make up people who work in his state. I wouldn’t approve of calling Bernie a tool of the military corporations for receiving donations the same way.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:11:48pm
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sagehen  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:11:53pm

re: #95 PrairieQueen

Exactly. And Bloomberg might not be Superman, but I know he isn’t a Brownshirt. Right now the GOP is like a legion of Brownshirts and they are spreading like cancer.

One of his under-appreciated achievements as mayor is making every single inch of waterfront, in all five boroughs, public parks. The lawns, the boardwalks and the bike paths are 12-18” higher than their previous sea-level elevation; with absorptive plants and good drainage to quickly alleviate any storm-driven (or rising sea level) flooding. He definitely positioned the city to be more climate-change-resiliant than it would have been.

Some of the developers of riverfront projects wanted private parks and beaches, he’s possibly the only potential mayor who had the ability to withstand their lobbying and refuse. He also insisted on set-back zoning that kept them from putting buildings too close to the water.

ohohoh… also, raised property taxes enough that the abatements for greening up every building made environmental upgrades financially necessary. Double-paned windows, low-flow toilets and showers, gray water recycling, co-generation incinerators that hook to steam and electric, solar panels on the roof; my building’s utility usage has gone down 40% in the last 20 years, and our trash pickup that used to go to landfills is down by 60%.

ETA: this is for a building constructed in 1967.

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Citizen K  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:12:18pm

re: #103 Eclectic Cyborg

Bingo.

The core of most conspiracy theories is they conveniently place the blame on people and institutions BESIDES those that are actually directly responsible.

Kind of similar to how folks try to scream that civil rights pushes, from fighting Jim Crow before to now with feminism, trans rights, etc., are somehow conspiracies by ‘The Elite’ to marginalize and devalue ‘real Americans’, as if this country would have allowed anything but straight white Christian Males to actually be part of ‘The Elite’ to begin with.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:13:33pm
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garzooma  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:14:53pm

re: #78 Citizen K

This guy knows there’s a video out of Trump clowning during the National Anthem, right?

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William Lewis  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:15:25pm

re: #96 lawhawk

Can I play too :)

Best: SRV playing the gym Eau Claire. David Bowie on the Glass Spiders tour. Jackson Browne with Heart opening, mid -80’s both at their peak, Patti Smith.

Paul Westerberg - solo & sober and showing why he was one of the greatest ever.

Hole shortly after Kurt’s suicide and she was stone cold insane. Not in touch with reality.

X twice and John Doe solo once. Glorious work. I’ve got a great photo of him with beer & guitar :D

I’ve seen John Mellencamp 4 times and loved every show.

Had tickets lined up for a Dire Straits concert in London and ended up spending the weekend on alert out in the bushes in my tank instead. It was even more annoying when that show was released as “Alchemy”.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:15:52pm
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Citizen K  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:17:56pm

re: #118 garzooma

This guy knows there’s a video out of Trump clowning during the National Anthem, right?

You have to remember, though, Republicans are never to blame for their actions. Somehow, someway, it’s always a Dem’s fault something happened, because far be it for a Republican to ever be responsible for anything they do or pay a price for any sort of incompetence or two-facedness.

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Thanos  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:19:04pm

As is so f’in well deserved, Black Pumas sold out their European concerts and they are adding dates and cities.

Black Pumas - Colors (Official Music Video)

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:19:32pm

re: #119 William Lewis

Can I play too :)

Best: SRV playing the gym Eau Claire. David Bowie on the Glass Spiders tour. Jackson Browne with Heart opening, mid -80’s both at their peak, Patti Smith.

Paul Westerberg - solo & sober and showing why he was one of the greatest ever.

Hole shortly after Kurt’s suicide and she was stone cold insane. Not in touch with reality.

X twice and John Doe solo once. Glorious work. I’ve got a great photo of him with beer & guitar :D

I’ve seen John Mellencamp 4 times and loved every show.

Had tickets lined up for a Dire Straits concert in London and ended up spending the weekend on alert out in the bushes in my tank instead. It was even more annoying when that show was released as “Alchemy”.

I also caught the Replacements at a gig where they couldn’t finish a song and played things like the Double Mint jingle (Bob in a dress). I was so disappointed. A couple of years before a friend called and asked if I wanted to check out The Kinks as tickets were available at the door and it was super cheap. So we caught John Cougar and the Zone warming up—they were amazing—and then The Kinks on the Celluloid Heroes tour. I wasn’t a huge fan, but it may be the best show I’ve ever seen.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:23:58pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Morrison has a totally undeserved reputation as a poet and lyricist. His lyrics were pure garbage - managed to be pseudo-profound and painfully clichéd at the same time.

One of my older brothers gave me a book of Morrison stuff - can’t remember if it was lyrics or poetry or both. He made some comment about Morrison being a poet and I did a very good job of not saying any of the things I was thinking.
Faux “deep” blecch. Good way, though, to quickly identify people who really really ought to spend some time reading actual poetry. (Or listening to songs by actually great songwriters.)

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:24:06pm

re: #114 Dread Pirate

Someone needs a plackard with “Rand Paul is a Coward owned by Putin.”

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unproven innocence  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:25:54pm

re: #114 Dread Pirate

So at least one Republican senator has been paying attention the Constitution. /

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danarchy  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:26:40pm

re: #87 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I definitely get a stink eye when someone posts something so absurdly easy to debunk and with English that is just a tad off.

The problem with this is so many Americans have a pretty tenuous grasp on the English language.

I have a co-worker, born and raised in Massachusetts, aside from having a pretty wicked townie accent she speaks just fine, but whenever she sends an email it feels like deciphering Sumerian cuneiform.

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Thanos  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:29:04pm

Most of the best musical experiences I’ve had were in small clubs watching small club copy and original bands most people haven’t heard of.

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rhuarc  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:29:47pm

re: #125 Belafon

Someone needs a plackard with “Rand Paul is a Coward owned by Putin.”

I think a better placard would be “Rand Paul’s neighbor was too lenient.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:29:59pm

re: #127 danarchy

The problem with this is so many Americans have a pretty tenuous grasp on the English language.

I have a co-worker, born and raised in Massachusetts, aside from having a pretty wicked townie accent she speaks just fine, but whenever she sends an email it feels like deciphering Sumerian cuneiform.

True. It’s just sometimes someone seems off to me.

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Citizen K  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:30:03pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:32:04pm

re: #131 Citizen K

it’s also really nauseating to see how many reporters and center-to-right operatives are just musing “hmm, what a savvy strategy, expect to see more of this” instead of identifying it as a hugely cynical and deceptive attack on democracy

Again, the GOP is at an advantage here: without a primary of their own to keep them occupied, they can indulge every spiteful, underhanded and sociopathic trick in the world to ratfuck the DNC and put as many spokes in their wheels as possible.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:33:05pm

OT I just came home from jury duty. I did not get dismissed early but I was not questioned by a lawyer or judge. Most of my day was spent in the jury assembly room. It was quiet in there today the TV’s were out and I could read in relative peace. It is the next best thing to getting out of there early (before noon is early).

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:39:31pm

re: #96 lawhawk

So, among those bands/acts you have seen, who would you consider to be the best concert you’ve attended (including those you’ve played in)?
.

Although I am not Charles, I have a few standout shows. REM at UMass, Reckoning tour I think. Not a huge room, and at the end, Stipe sang Moon River accapella with two green spotlights behind him, the he cast a big silhouette on the green-lit walls. I thought his rendition was beautiful. (The rest of the show was awesome, too.)
I thought X as “special secret guests” at a RHCP show at the (sadly gone) Music Machine on Pico were very exciting (even though it was Gilky and not Billy Zoom.)
Sonic Youth and fIREHOSE at Amherst College was great (extra bonus, I got to sit and chat with Henry Rollins for a bit between bands.)

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:42:54pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:43:37pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s semi-official EMS lingo, though.

Cool! I didn’t know that

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Mattand  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:47:40pm

re: #133 PhillyPretzel

OT I just came home from jury duty. I did not get dismissed early but I was not questioned by a lawyer or judge. Most of my day was spent in the jury assembly room. It was quiet in there today the TV’s were out and I could read in relative peace. It is the next best thing to getting out of there early (before noon is early).

No matter how many times I walk by it, I will always take a moment and just marvel at the statuary and artwork that adorns City Hall. Basically an open air Art Museum.

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Belafon  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:51:00pm
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Mattand  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:52:00pm

I’m “on” a live album: the Kinks’ The Road. Part of it was recorded at Philly’s Mann Music Center in 1987.

Christ, I’m old.

REM gave two of the best and one of the worst shows I’ve ever seen.

Saw Tom Petty like 5 times. The Heartbreakers were unreal. That band could just turn on a dime without even thinking.

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SteelPH  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:53:06pm

re: #135 lawhawk

Awful lotta white guys at this supposed “Black for Trump” gathering.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:56:02pm

re: #140 SteelPH

Awful lotta white guys at this supposed “Black for Trump” gathering.

Shut up. Black is white. Learn to see it that way.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:56:26pm

re: #137 Mattand

Yes. It is beautiful outside as well as inside. I was at the Juanita A Kidd Stout Center of Criminal Justice instead of City Hall. For a modern building it is okay and has clean bathrooms. For lunch I went to Reading Terminal and got a bagel from Metropolitan Bakery and some almonds from Iovine Brothers. And of course the City of Philadelphia gave me $9 for the day.

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:56:29pm

Fucking Cilizza. The guy can’t stop finding ways to suck up to Trump. His latest?

While mentioning that Trump has never gotten to 50% approval in any reputable poll, let alone Gallup, he’s at 49% and Cilizza thinks that this is huge accomplishment.

The sole reason for this polling is that the GOP is almost entirely behind Trump. They are a goddamned cult, and Cilizza thinks that this is good. Never mind the actual facts of impeachment, the nonstop lies by Trumpworld, the nonstop hose of conspiracy theories from right wingers, and the agitprop from Faux. He thinks that this is all helping Trump to better polling than Obama at the same point in their first term.

The GOP are entirely off the rails, but Cilizza has to put out a hot mess daily, so here we are.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:56:30pm

re: #139 Mattand

I’m “on” a live album: the Kinks’ The Road. Part of it was recorded at Philly’s Mann Music Center in 1987.

Christ, I’m old.

REM gave two of the best and one of the worst shows I’ve ever seen.

Saw Tom Petty like 5 times. The Heartbreakers were unreal. That band could just turn on a dime without even thinking.

I saw REM in a little club in Atlanta in 1983 and they were great. It was a benefit, though, and so they played a lot of covers. I saw them a couple of years later in the Fox Theater and they just couldn’t get their sound right. It was a shame.

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:56:44pm

re: #140 SteelPH

I know, white?

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Mattand  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:57:57pm

re: #140 SteelPH

These guys don’t see race.

Mostly because they have any non-Caucasians removed from their line of sight as quickly as possible.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:58:18pm

re: #119 William Lewis

Can I play too :)

Best: SRV playing the gym Eau Claire. David Bowie on the Glass Spiders tour. Jackson Browne with Heart opening, mid -80’s both at their peak, Patti Smith.

Paul Westerberg - solo & sober and showing why he was one of the greatest ever.

Hole shortly after Kurt’s suicide and she was stone cold insane. Not in touch with reality.

X twice and John Doe solo once. Glorious work. I’ve got a great photo of him with beer & guitar :D

I’ve seen John Mellencamp 4 times and loved every show.

Had tickets lined up for a Dire Straits concert in London and ended up spending the weekend on alert out in the bushes in my tank instead. It was even more annoying when that show was released as “Alchemy”.

Well now I want to play.
Best 4:
Beatles—Forest Hills
Harry Chapin—one of many, but one night at Blossom, he played for about 4 hours—as long as anyone stayed to listen
BB King, Little Feat, Dr. John
Billy Joel/Elton John

All the live shows I can remember (some multiple times)—long list, so hidden to protect many from boredom

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:58:50pm

re: #144 Barefoot Grin

I’ve been to a couple concerts where loud substituted for good. And it wasn’t good.

Guns and Roses on their tour with Faith No More and Metallica comes to mind. They had the sound turned way up, but Axel was late to the show, and it delayed Metallica closing.

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gocart mozart  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:59:30pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 4, 2020 • 12:59:55pm

My Live Band Highlight was The Who in spring of 1983 (post-Keith Moon)

But they did all my favorite songs, including some obscure ones, like “Tattoo”, “Boris the Spider” and “The Naked Eye”.

And for what it’s worth, I got to see Lynrd Skynrd while they were still all alive and intact (at a big outdoor festival near Chicago in 1976 along with Yes, Peter Frampton and Gary Wright.)

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KGxvi  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:00:26pm

Jumping in to play the concert game…

Saw Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeroes last year at the Greek and that might be my favorite show I’ve attended. There’s just something about that band and their fans that make it magical.

I’ve been to probably 5 or 6 Jimmy Buffett concerts and those are always a good time; though those have probably transitioned to “event” status more than anything.

Metallica probably 20 years ago was pretty damn amazing at the LA Coliseum.

But I really enjoy smaller venue shows now. Saw Valley Queen at a small place in Long Beach before they were Valley Queen. Natalie Carol is amazing.

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Mattand  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:03:17pm

re: #144 Barefoot Grin

I saw REM in a little club in Atlanta in 1983 and they were great. It was a benefit, though, and so they played a lot of covers. I saw them a couple of years later in the Fox Theater and they just couldn’t get their sound right. It was a shame.

The worst show was when they were touring for Green in ‘88. By Stipe’s own admission, he was in the middle of a nervous breakdown.

At one point he started haranguing the audience for drinking Coors out of styrofoam coolers.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:05:23pm

Worst show for me was Bob Dylan. I love Bob but man that was disappointing. It was at GMU’s Patriot Center.

Best, probably this summer. Dawes. I knew Taylor Goldsmith could sing and has some great songs but man he can perform too!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:05:44pm

December 77 seeing the Sex Pistols in Homestead PA with Malcolm McLaren in a mink coat. This was before CNN. Theater packed with punks from all over. Slam dancing in the aisles. So loud my ears rang for a week…

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Interesting Times  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:06:09pm

re: #152 Mattand

At one point he started haranguing the audience for drinking Coors out of styrofoam coolers.

He can be forgiven for that:

The Coors family foundations have contributed at least $12.5 million to conservative organizations in the past six years alone, making the Coors one of the most formidable right-wing donor families on the national stage today.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:06:40pm

Worst band I ever saw was one of the openers for a concert I went to on January 1, 2000.

They were a punk rock band. I don’t remember their name but I do remember the hideous gold suits they all wore on stage. What they played was less music and just repetitive, aggravating noise. Every song sounded almost just like the last one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:07:30pm

My dad comes from the state, but I nonetheless have to remind us all that it stands for

Idiots
Out
Wandering
Around

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Mattand  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:07:58pm

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My Live Band Highlight was The Who in spring of 1983 (post-Keith Moon)

But they did all my favorite songs, including some obscure ones, like “Tattoo”, “Boris the Spider” and “The Naked Eye”.

And for what it’s worth, I got to see Lynrd Skynrd while they were still all alive and intact (at a big outdoor festival near Chicago in 1976 along with Yes, Peter Frampton and Gary Wright.)

Saw The Who duo in May. I went partly since there was a good chance this may be their final tour and I’d never seen them live.

I was really worried about Daltrey’s voice, based mostly their horrendous Super Bowl show from a few years back.

I could not have been more wrong. Goddamn, he was amazing. Really glad I went.

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:13:57pm

re: #158 Mattand

Saw them a few years back and they were good. They had Joan Jett as their opening act and she was surprisingly good. There were a few points where Daltry or Jett had pitch issues and some of their songs were a few beats slower than when they were in their prime, but they did strong sets.

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Interesting Times  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:15:04pm

Well played:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:16:43pm
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uriel  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:17:36pm

If I’m being honest, the best concert I’ve ever seen would be Postmodern Jukebox. Just such an exciting and riveting time.

Also, weirdly enough, Huey Lewis and the News, back when I worked at Popular Creek outdoor amphitheater. Now, I don’t like Huey Lewis at all- but man were they tight. It was just damned impressive. Plus, they gave a free mini-concert for the staff before the gate opened. (A surprising number of acts got really testy about staff watching sound checks.)

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:18:03pm

re: #160 Interesting Times

Snakes on a Plane
99 44/100% pure.

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:20:36pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:27:36pm

re: #96 lawhawk

So, among those bands/acts you have seen, who would you consider to be the best concert you’ve attended (including those you’ve played in)?

I’ve been to a bunch of shows, and I know the ones that stand out - Pink Floyd during Division Bell, Woodstock 94 (NIN being the standout act; CSN was good, but Melissa Etheridge also stood out as did Peter Gabriel and RHCP).

I attended a few Jefferson Starship shows that were decent, but the one show I’ll never forget was when Jefferson Airplane had their reunion tour - had 3rd row seats at DTE Energy Theater at the side of the stage where Jorma Kaukonen and Jack Casady did a Hot Tuna set, and Grace Slick through out little stuffed pandas (one of which I caught.)

Also Neil Diamond and Billy Joel were good shows - last concert I was at was with Big Head Todd and the Monsters and George Thorogood.

I also did classical concerts, both Mahler Symphony no 3 - one with Gunter Herbig and the Detroit Symphony Orchestra at a revamped Orchestra Hall (My friend who went with me snarked after the concert that CD’s suck) and later on that decade with Christoph Esenbach with the Chicago Symphony at Ravinia (where planes from O’Hare would seriously harsh my mellow during the performance….)

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Dr. Matt  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:28:42pm

re: #164 lawhawk

This should induce Max Triggering.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:32:09pm
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Freedom Turnip  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:36:52pm

re: #89 GlutenFreeJesus

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“Mozarkite in the wind” it just rolls off the tongue!

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:42:20pm

Also saw Segovia in concert (was fascinated because of George Harrison’s talking about his influence) and Salvador Dali sat in our row.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:43:45pm

re: #166 Dr. Matt

This should induce Max Triggering.

By people who will insist they are not being triggered.

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Mattand  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:46:03pm

re: #170 BeachDem

Also saw Segovia in concert (was fascinated because of George Harrison’s talking about his influence) and Salvador Dali sat in our row.

Jesus, I was looking at your earlier list. Who haven’t you seen?

The Beatles Forest Hills show caught my attention. Are the cliches true and you couldn’t hear them over the screaming girls?

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:46:06pm

not sure how this topic started…

Santana at the Jones Beach Theater in 93 or 94 in a pouring rain storm is absolutely the most fun a person who missed Woodstock ever had at a concert

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:47:14pm

Are we waiting with held breath … for 4PM Iowa time???????

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:48:22pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

Worst band I ever saw was one of the openers for a concert I went to on January 1, 2000.

They were a punk rock band. I don’t remember their name but I do remember the hideous gold suits they all wore on stage. What they played was less music and just repetitive, aggravating noise. Every song sounded almost just like the last one.

when elvis costello and the attractions first came to the US, they toured upstate new york and played..movie theaters. opening act was the Rubinoos.

We wore suits we bought at salvation army and followed him around for a while

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:49:15pm

re: #173 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

not sure how this topic started…

Santana at the Jones Beach Theater in 93 or 94 in a pouring rain storm is absolutely the most fun a person who missed Woodstock ever had at a concert

My wife and I saw DMB at the New Orleans Jazz Fest a few years ago after I won tickets at work. He was the last act of the night and as soon as he took the stage it started pouring. Still fun as hell to be there. Not so fun to have to go into work the next morning on three hours sleep…

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Mattand  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:50:26pm

re: #174 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Are we waiting with held breath … for 4PM Iowa time???????

Lol, not really. Particularly since if King Bernie the Immaculate doesn’t win, his fucking cult of proto-MAGAts who can write above a third grade level are gonna into full meltdown.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:50:29pm

re: #170 BeachDem

Also saw Segovia in concert (was fascinated because of George Harrison’s talking about his influence) and Salvador Dali sat in our row.

ditto
at the westbury music fair with the circular rotating stage in the center.
i dont believe Dali was there

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:51:08pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

My wife and I saw DMB at the New Orleans Jazz Fest a few years ago after I won tickets at work. He was the last act of the night and as soon as he took the stage it started pouring. Still fun as hell to be there. Not so fun to have to go into work the next morning on three hours sleep…

we were younger then

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gocart mozart  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:52:27pm

[4k, 60 fps] Arrival of a Train at La Ciotat (The Lumière Brothers, 1896)

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Chrysicat  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:52:34pm
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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:52:43pm

re: #172 Mattand

Jesus, I was looking at your earlier list. Who haven’t you seen?

The Beatles Forest Hills show caught my attention. Are the cliches true and you couldn’t hear them over the screaming girls?

Well, as one of the screaming girls (along with my mother—sigh), I have to say it was weird—like the screams were on one decibel level but you could actually hear the music on another (if that makes any sense.)

I also saw them at Shea—for that one, my mother (who glommed onto my Beatle frenzy) took the train into the city (we lived on Long Island at the time) and stood in line for tickets. She didn’t tell anyone until the day of the concert and then said, “Don’t you wish you were going tonight?” Of course, the answer was yes, and then she whipped out 6 tickets.

I know I’ve seen more than are on my list, but it’s hard to remember (I iz old).

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jaunte  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:55:25pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:55:57pm

re: #183 jaunte

That’s a fool’s bet. It will be 30 seconds.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:56:42pm

re: #183 jaunte

That is an even money bet. DT always lies.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:56:48pm

re: #183 jaunte

What’s the odds of him stroking out live on TV?

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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:57:49pm

re: #186 Dr. Matt

What’s the odds of him stroking out live on TV?

Lower than I’d like it to be. Trump dropping dead is literally the only good thing he could do for the country.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:57:59pm

re: #186 Dr. Matt

What’s the odds of him stroking out live on TV?

I’m curious about the over/under on him making fun of Bloombergs height.

/

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Mattand  Feb 4, 2020 • 1:59:52pm

re: #182 BeachDem

Well, as one of the screaming girls (along with my mother—sigh), I have to say it was weird—like the screams were on one decibel level but you could actually hear the music on another (if that makes any sense.)

I also saw them at Shea—for that one, my mother (who glommed onto my Beatle frenzy) took the train into the city (we lived on Long Island at the time) and stood in line for tickets. She didn’t tell anyone until the day of the concert and then said, “Don’t you wish you were going tonight?” Of course, the answer was yes, and then she whipped out 6 tickets.

I know I’ve seen more than are on my list, but it’s hard to remember (I iz old).

Lol, of course, you were at Shea!

Kudos to your mom. That’s basically Greatest Mom Ever material.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:01:09pm
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Mattand  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:01:37pm

re: #186 Dr. Matt

What’s the odds of him stroking out live on TV?

About 50 to oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please

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danarchy  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:05:34pm

Florida Man strikes again!

cnn.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:07:11pm

re: #192 danarchy

Florida Man strikes again!

cnn.com

Was there a jug full of moonshine marked xxx?

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:07:57pm

re: #192 danarchy

re: #193 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

ROFL ::: rolls eyes :::

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Mattand  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:10:06pm

re: #193 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Was there a jug full of moonshine marked xxx?

And a bag of stolen cash with a giant dollar sign on it.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:10:34pm

re: #190 Dread Pirate

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Partial results being reported now. Sanders winning initial preference, Mayor Pete winning more “state equivalent delegates”. Clear as mud.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:11:04pm

re: #186 Dr. Matt

What’s the odds of him stroking out live on TV?

Pelosi should have someone standing by with a stake and a mallet just in case.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:13:41pm

re: #196 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Because Sanders wins big in some caucuses, but Pete wins in more places?

As I thought last night, there isn’t a real winner, but it does appear as if Biden is the big loser.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:14:44pm

re: #189 Mattand

Lol, of course, you were at Shea!

Kudos to your mom. That’s basically Greatest Mom Ever material.

The Beatles were probably the only thing that kept us from killing each other during my teen years. But the woman did love the fab four. Wouldn’t let me take my Beatles albums with me when I went to college—afraid they’d get ruined. Made my father buy her the Concert for Bangladesh album for their 30th anniversary.

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sagehen  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:17:53pm

re: #183 jaunte

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aw, c’monn. It’ll be 45 seconds of sniffing and snorting before he says a word.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:18:20pm

re: #198 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Because Sanders wins big in some caucuses, but Pete wins in more places?

As I thought last night, there isn’t a real winner, but it does appear as if Biden is the big loser.

Yes, Mayor Pete did better in rural areas.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:18:22pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:18:36pm

re: #198 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Because Sanders wins big in some caucuses, but Pete wins in more places?

As I thought last night, there isn’t a real winner, but it does appear as if Biden is the big loser.

Biden in trouble in IA is a useful development. He either tanks or starts taking running as a D in the 21st century seriously. I.e., no more of this ‘I can work with Republicans’ happy horseshit.

A Biden coronation would be the worst case, IMO.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:19:35pm

I don’t want Bernie to win. You know why?

Because he’s NOT A FUCKING DEMOCRAT.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:20:19pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:20:20pm

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t want Bernie to win. You know why?

Because he’s NOT A FUCKING DEMOCRAT.

I don’t want him to win because I don’t think he would be a good President and I don’t think he would give a shit about the down ticket races.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:22:23pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:23:36pm

re: #205 Dread Pirate

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Cut the unemployment rate in half, have a bunch of jackasses cry economic anxiety. Inherit that and take credit for it. White Americans give you credit.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:25:48pm

re: #183 jaunte

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i literally just lol’d

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:27:32pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:27:52pm

re: #192 danarchy

Florida Man strikes again!

cnn.com

northwest florida
nearly alabamida

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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:28:21pm

re: #209 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

A lot depends on how this is scored — is this a bet that Trump will tell lies in the SOTU at a rate of 1 per 45 seconds, or that every 45 second interval of time in the SOTU will include at least one lie?

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:29:05pm

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t want Bernie to win. You know why?

Because he’s NOT A FUCKING DEMOCRAT.

“he’s a democrat for a few months every 4 years”

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jaunte  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:29:44pm

re: #205 Dread Pirate

“Trump’s ratings for handling foreign affairs and trade are his best yet.”

Does anyone know about the tariffs killing all those farming businesses?

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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:30:07pm

re: #210 Dread Pirate

What’s this? Breaking news about Trumpco money laundering just before his Senate show-vote?

Wouldn’t it be funny if there were an Act II of this money laundering story W or Th this week?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:30:32pm

re: #170 BeachDem

Also saw Segovia in concert (was fascinated because of George Harrison’s talking about his influence) and Salvador Dali sat in our row.

JFC, when you drop names, you DO NOT FOOL AROUND!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:31:28pm

re: #210 Dread Pirate

Let’s just say it together. Our president is a mob stooge.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:31:52pm

re: #212 EPR-radar

A lot depends on how this is scored — is this a bet that Trump will tell lies in the SOTU at a rate of 1 per 45 seconds, or that every 45 second interval of time in the SOTU will include at least one lie?

story’s not clear

but boy are we splitting hairs here as if one scenario is worse than the other

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:33:38pm
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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:35:40pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:37:46pm

susan collins will vote to acquit - quelle surprise:

Collins to CBS News: “I believe that the president has learned from this case. The president has been impeached. That’s a pretty big lesson.”

Susan Collins is an idiot.

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jaunte  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:38:43pm

re: #219 Dread Pirate

It’s as if they’ve all forgotten “We must all hang together, or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:38:45pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:38:48pm

re: #220 Dread Pirate

It’s like acting like a lead off double will tell you the out come of the game. Bring on NH, NV, and SC.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:39:02pm

re: #221 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

susan collins will vote to acquit - quelle surprise:

Susan Collins is an idiot.

How is that not the Onion?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:39:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:40:01pm

re: #221 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

susan collins will vote to acquit - quelle surprise:

Susan Collins is an idiot.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:40:10pm

re: #223 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I can guarantee this. Don Jr didn’t know what a “caucas” was until Ted Cruz “stole” it from his daddy four years ago. By the way, for someone who’s supposedly running the family business, he sure as hell a lot of time being the world’s stupidest Twitter troll not named Don Sr.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:41:29pm

re: #228 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I can guarantee this. Don Jr didn’t know what a “caucas” was until Ted Cruz “stole” it from his daddy four years ago. By the way, for someone who’s supposedly running the family business, he sure as hell a lot of time being the world’s stupidest Twitter troll not named Don Sr.

oh, puleeze…Jr. still doesn’t know what a caucas is or even a caucus.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:41:33pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

Terrible for genealogists. Hope all the right wingers I know in that community are happy.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:41:37pm

re: #221 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

susan collins will vote to acquit - quelle surprise:

Susan Collins is an idiot.

susan collins thinks this guy learned something:

Vanity Fair excerpts Sinking in the Swamp by Lachlan Markay and Asawin Suebsaeng: “The 2016 campaign wanted Trump to release an official written statement renouncing birther conspiracy theories and declaring once and for all that baby Barack was born in the United States. His aides asked him for a short and sweet statement…”

“This kicked off what two people on the call independently described as a seven‐minute, meandering spat of word vomit during which Trump kept finding new ways to say that his birther crusade was, in fact, necessary, good, and proper. He repeatedly echoed his past comments on the matter… Really, Trump reasoned, what he did was a smashing success that warranted no apology, and he was happy he helped settle one of the great questions of our time.”

“Had this soliloquy been made public, it would have spanned two pages, single spaced.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:41:54pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, puleeze…Jr.s till doesn’t know what a caucas is or even a caucus.

Ha true.

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bratwurst  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:42:23pm

Greenwald being upset about Sanders underperformance in Iowa is not a GREAT payoff for the clusterfuck we have been enduring…but it is way better than nothing.

Also: if your big argument against Mayor Pete is that he’s a white male, you are not really any better than the person against him because he’s gay.

I am not a big fan, I feel like there are plenty of problems with the guy that can be pointed out without resorting to the arguments above.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:42:25pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:42:51pm

re: #231 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

susan collins thinks this guy learned something:

You know, her act might be somewhat believable if Trump had ever shown any regret about any of this. But nope instead we have heard “READ THE TRANSCRIPT” ad a bunch of sniffles about WHERE’S THE WHISTLEBLOWER. Enjoy retirement, Susan.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:43:18pm

re: #223 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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well there was one actual Iowa caucus in the Caucasus

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:43:39pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Was there ever any doubt SHREWsan would vote to let Trump go scot free?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:45:43pm

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAA

I’ll not be holding my breath

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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:46:00pm

re: #221 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

susan collins will vote to acquit - quelle surprise:

Susan Collins is an idiot.

Collins is not an idiot. She pretends to be one to get the votes of both-siderist idiots in Maine.

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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:47:26pm

re: #233 bratwurst

Greenwald being upset about Sanders underperformance in Iowa is not a GREAT payoff for the clusterfuck we have been enduring…but it is way better than nothing.

Bad news for Spleenwald is good news for just about everyone else.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:47:27pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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this is what i was saying this morning
this kind of reporting idiotic

because the order the precincts reported is mostly random and therefore meaningless

the only total that matters is when all the votes have been counted

and yes i know sometimes there’s a point where you could call it - just like the football analogy 10 seconds to go and down by 30 points, 2 time outs wont help etc.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:47:59pm

re: #235 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You know, her act might be somewhat believable if Trump had ever shown any regret about any of this. But nope instead we have heard “READ THE TRANSCRIPT” ad a bunch of sniffles about WHERE’S THE WHISTLEBLOWER. Enjoy retirement, Susan.

about anything ever

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:48:17pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:49:05pm

re: #239 EPR-radar

Collins is not an idiot. She pretends to be one to get the votes of both-siderist idiots in Maine.

you make a fair point

mine was if she thinks trump learned anything…

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garzooma  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:49:09pm

From the 2018 SOTU:

Preston’s reverence for those who have served our nation remind us why we salute our flag, why we put our hands on our hearts for the Pledge of Allegiance, and why we proudly stand for the national anthem.

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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:49:24pm

re: #221 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

The only thing Trump has learned from this is that he has rock-solid support from Senate Republicans for any further crimes and abuses of office he may come up with.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:50:15pm
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Citizen K  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:50:25pm

re: #239 EPR-radar

Collins is not an idiot. She pretends to be one to get the votes of both-siderist idiots in Maine.

She’s not an idiot, she’s a cynic. She’s prime example #1A far as abusing the assumption of good faith on Republicans part, constantly acting in the worst of faith and still getting treated like the wise sagely middle of the road prophetess and bellwether.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:50:34pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The gun nuts got it wrong. It’s an absolutist interpretation of the 2A that prolongs systematic racism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:51:18pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:51:58pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is what Bernie’s delegates fought so hard to keep sigh.

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plansbandc  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:52:08pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course not. Stand your ground laws are for white men.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:52:24pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Party primaries should be closed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:52:34pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:52:52pm

re: #253 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Party primaries should be closed.

Indeed.

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Citizen K  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:53:02pm
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bratwurst  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:53:16pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bracing myself for the antisemitic 180 all of these pro-Bernie Republicans will be doing if he should secure enough delegates for the nomination.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:53:34pm

*SPIT*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:55:49pm
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Citizen K  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:55:57pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*SPIT*

“Oh, he’s been reprimanded, I’m sure he’ll learn his lesson and behave from now on, there’s no need to do anything more. And if you want more, that just proves how unserious and partisan you are…”

And this will get taken as very serious and sober thought by the usual suspects who will use it to scream about Dem partisanship.

No, fuck you Sen. Collins. Fuck you.

261
Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:56:49pm

Max Boot is right.

The Republican Party Must Die.

262
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:57:13pm

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Correct

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:57:33pm
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Mike Lamb  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:58:14pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*SPIT*

I was typing a wholly different response, but I fucking can’t. I just can’t even. My field of evens is barren, it has been salted, and posted with an “Abandon all Hope, those that enter here”.

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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:58:30pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

Susan Colins is an elected Republican official in DC. Therefore she is a turd.

What makes her case especially irritating is that she’s made a long career out of pretending to not be a turd, and the mainstream media mostly buys into that.

It’s a small and exceptionally annoying part of the Great Both-Siderist lie that dominates US political reporting.

266
EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 2:59:40pm

re: #261 Joe Bacon 🌹

Max Boot is right.

The Republican Party Must Die.

The only bearable Republican in office is one in an impotent minority. Let CA be a model to the nation in this respect.

267
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:00:04pm
268
gocart mozart  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:00:27pm
269
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:01:23pm

because, of course…

270
PrairieQueen  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:01:55pm

re: #265 EPR-radar

The problem with running things down the middle is shit that is clearly unacceptable becomes part of the narrative and is made to seem reasonable. It’s like meeting your rapist at a mediation hearing. There is no middle ground. Wrong is wrong.

271
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:04:00pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh.

Please don’t tell me this primary season is going to be one long continuous clusterfuck.

Sorry. No can do.

272
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:04:55pm

re: #257 bratwurst

Bracing myself for the antisemitic 180 all of these pro-Bernie Republicans will be doing if he should secure enough delegates for the nomination.

They are just trolling to try to split the opposition to Trump, which is his only hope of victory.

273
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:06:01pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

because, of course…

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It will impress Satan when Rush meets him in Hell.

274
Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:07:35pm
275
EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:08:38pm

re: #272 NO SMOCKING GUN!

They are just trolling to try to split the opposition to Trump, which is his only hope of victory.

I remember thinking that Trump would be the easiest GOP nominee to beat in 2016. Unfortunately, I was wrong.

I might die laughing if GOP ratfucking of the 2020 D primary helps Sanders become the nominee, and then he goes on to win in the general election.

276
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:08:53pm
277
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:11:10pm

re: #38 Sir John Barron

I can’t wait to not watch this SOTU tonight.

I honestly cannot think of a more torturous thing to inflict upon myself. Not a chance I’m watching this.

I’ll let you guys bite this bullet. I’ll read your comments.

278
Jebediah, RBG  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:13:15pm

re: #221 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

susan collins will vote to acquit - quelle surprise:

Susan Collins is an idiot.

Maybe, maybe not, but she obviously thinks WE are.

279
PhillyPretzel  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:13:39pm

re: #277 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I will not be watching. I want to get some sleep tonight.

280
Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:14:03pm

Opinion time, folks:

Can you shove a message up a turtle’s ass? And would he actually ENJOY said insertion?

Related: is there a YouPorn channel devoted to this already?

281
Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:14:52pm
282
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:18:12pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’d love for a reporter to call him out as the thin skinned chode he is.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:20:46pm

re: #193 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Was there a jug full of moonshine marked xxx?

I liked this notation on their Facebook page:

Santa Rosa K-9 Deputies recently assisted FHP on a traffic stop on I-10 where a large amount of narcotics were discovered. Note to self- do not traffic your illegal narcotics in bags labeled “Bag Full Of Drugs”. Our K-9’s can read.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:20:56pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, it may be HUGE, Caitlan, but it’s not new—we’ve known the Republicans were going to rat-fuck our primary since Day 1.

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retired cynic  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:25:56pm

re: #207 Dread Pirate

The White Helmets

@SyriaCivilDef
In less than 12 hours, 3 medical facilities have been targeted since midnight until now and destroyed by Russian warplanes in #Sarmin and #Taftanaz in #Idlib. Warplanes continue to spread death in northern #Syria as they carry out their campaign of civilian extermination.

Oh, I’m just sick!!!

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:27:41pm

re: #266 EPR-radar

The only bearable Republican in office is one in an impotent minority. Let CA be a model to the nation in this respect.

Well, I worried that any one party that was so secure in its control, would inevitably lead to crazy legislation and out-of-control spending.

Instead, under Jerry Brown, the California gov’t methodically tried to improve the lives of its residents, socked away billions in a rainy-day fund, and generally tried to govern responsibly.

Beats the living fuck out of the hellscape imposed on poor Kansas when the GOP got into unitary power.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:29:01pm

“Needz more. Needz more”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:30:10pm

re: #287 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“Needz more. Needz more”

Damn it. Didn’t scroll all the way up to #120

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:30:23pm

Russia supports traitor Rand Paul.

290
mmmirele  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:30:44pm

re: #268 gocart mozart

What the hell is spraying chemicals going to do? We’re not talking about keeping down the disease-laden mosquitoes. (Although I really really REALLY do not want to know what Harris County, Texas was spraying in the air on summer nights during the second half of the 1970s.)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:32:05pm

Best Concerts

Bruce Springsteen (River Tour) LA sports Arena four hour set. Saw three shows
Elton John Solo. Old Universal Amphitheater
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Irvine Meadows
The Kinks The Forum
Jethro Tull. The Forum. Songs from the Wood tour
Lucinda Williams Brooklyn Bandshell
Jackson Browne Irvine Meadows
Rolling Stones Some Girls tour Anaheim Stadium
Carol King Beacon Theater, NY, NY

many others I can’t remember due to age/drugs/alcohol and women who wanted to see the show, but were not interested in me.

292
Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:32:33pm

re: #290 mmmirele

What the hell is spraying chemicals going to do? We’re not talking about keeping down the disease-laden mosquitoes. (Although I really really REALLY do not want to know what Harris County, Texas was spraying in the air on summer nights during the second half of the 1970s.)

I’ve read a lot of science fiction. You probably don’t want me to venture a guess on this question.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:33:39pm

re: #290 mmmirele

What the hell is spraying chemicals going to do? We’re not talking about keeping down the disease-laden mosquitoes. (Although I really really REALLY do not want to know what Harris County, Texas was spraying in the air on summer nights during the second half of the 1970s.)

It’s theater

294
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:34:06pm

re: #186 Dr. Matt

What’s the odds of him stroking out live on TV?

Can I lay a bet on that?

295
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:34:46pm

re: #289 Dread Pirate

Russia supports traitor Rand Paul.

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Sanction their ass and bankrupt Putin and we’ll see who’s laughing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:35:33pm

re: #203 EPR-radar

Biden in trouble in IA is a useful development. He either tanks or starts taking running as a D in the 21st century seriously. I.e., no more of this ‘I can work with Republicans’ happy horseshit.

A Biden coronation would be the worst case, IMO.

Better than Bernie.

297
Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:36:51pm

re: #296 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Better than Bernie.

Yes, but I’d prefer Warren over either one.

298
Barefoot Grin  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:37:07pm

Last concert-related post, but private because it’s just about tonight and not experiences.

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retired cynic  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:38:25pm

re: #261 Joe Bacon 🌹

Max Boot is right.

The Republican Party Must Die.

I heard Bill Kristol today on NPR, and he said the same thing. He said for the foreseeable future, he was a Democrat. Said maybe there will have to be a third party, but the current racist and authoritarian GOP must die.

300
Jebediah, RBG  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:39:05pm

re: #288 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Damn it. Didn’t scroll all the way up to #120

Well, I didn’t mind seeing it twice.

301
PrairieQueen  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:39:26pm

re: #274 Charles Johnson

Eventually, that POS will be canonized. You could see that coming a mile away.

302
b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:39:38pm

Evening Lizards:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:40:01pm

Agreed. And it sucks.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:40:18pm

re: #221 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

susan collins will vote to acquit - quelle surprise:

Susan Collins is an idiot.

She’s not an idiot; she’s a liar. Like all Republicans, her loyalty is to party over country.

305
Ace Rothstein  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:43:21pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

The greatest irony of Limbaugh’s current condition is that for thirty years he defended smokers, said they should be awarded medals, and lied that smoking never hurt or killed anyone. Those cigars he has smoked for the same amount of time are about to put his fat ass in a box six feet under by the year’s end.

306
Barefoot Grin  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:44:10pm

Heh….

307
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:44:53pm

re: #297 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, but I’d prefer Warren over either one.

At this point, I think Warren is the best choice left. Then she can pick a younger running mate (Castro? O’rourke?) who is able to campaign well in platform-specific groups.

308
Hecuba's daughter  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:45:36pm

re: #240 EPR-radar

Bad news for Spleenwald is good news for just about everyone else.

Isn’t Greenwald under arrest in Brazil? Doesn’t he need to be spending time with attorneys rather than pontificating about elections in a nation he despises?

309
EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:46:27pm

re: #301 PrairieQueen

Eventually, that POS will be canonized. You could see that coming a mile away.

It’s that whole separate reality thing Republicans live in — to them, Rush Limbaugh is Spiritual Leader of the Redstate Nation.

To everyone else, he is Spiritual Leader of the Pig-People.

310
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:46:42pm

re: #307 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

At this point, I think Warren is the best choice left. Then she can pick a younger running mate (Castro? O’rourke?) who is able to campaign well in platform-specific groups.

Castro I think would be a better fit.

311
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:46:45pm

We’re less than a week away from the NH primary. Iowa will be old news by Wednesday. Maybe they’ll have the final count by then?

312
BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:47:36pm

re: #298 Barefoot Grin

XZHEMZ674BkgwlcfKntkQcTxI8O+d/trxM45c3MIVzjlllOpAVKsL0Fs1kyi6mieQcxQ3WCbRM8qu/U2X9NViB2lvGInoWhrem8dBxLheRrEcaCKLZ5FN7EovyubZUW9Be/2BZfQPRPm5xA6YKgUD7I+/aqD0Bgkv/ZrtP8sHLj1AP0kRVEIMamQuvfEdgbB8Z4C57Cl+IjtrnY3By45DyFmygcMJ+/Xjy5MG3XqOSyitu2w2Od+eCYMM9IUeKOUKFjnhDKQfnCfhgRXik+7Em/dddBSZaEacbTuYJssFLsw23o4bSwwbKUE/pVYx13sYbpKbgpsXmPJbkh0wKmk7BI4zca5S3XY0iRSeys3P5rls6ihZZTgeiviE5o3JLgSnfMcIh39LfqLZ7OYjUV8SvlNZtRNNndr3SJB+G/lahpUomMaAbzDEtj7T2Fkpo/F

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:47:56pm

re: #307 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

At this point, I think Warren is the best choice left. Then she can pick a younger running mate (Castro? O’rourke?) who is able to campaign well in platform-specific groups.

A woman can’t win. I wish it wasn’t so but I believe with every ounce of my being that it’s true.

314
EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:48:39pm

re: #305 Ace Rothstein

The greatest irony of Limbaugh’s current condition is that for thirty years he defended smokers, said they should be awarded medals, and lied that smoking never hurt or killed anyone. Those cigars he has smoked for the same amount of time are about to put his fat ass in a box six feet under by the year’s end.

What turns the irony up to 11 here is that Rush specifically claimed that secondhand smoke was harmless. As I understand it, cigar smokers usually don’t directly inhale the smoke from their cigars. If that was Rush’s pattern, then secondhand smoke is almost certainly what led to his cancer.

315
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:49:43pm

re: #313 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A woman can’t win. I wish it wasn’t so but I believe with every ounce of my being that it’s true.

I’ve told you. I respectfully disagree.

316
Ace Rothstein  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:50:11pm

It can not be understated the amount of destruction that Rush Limbaugh did to the political discourse in this country.

317
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:50:32pm

re: #314 EPR-radar

What turns the irony up to 11 here is that Rush specifically claimed that secondhand smoke was harmless. As I understand it, cigar smokers usually don’t directly inhale the smoke from their cigars. If that was Rush’s pattern, then secondhand smoke is almost certainly what led to his cancer.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer douche.

318
PrairieQueen  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:52:31pm

re: #314 EPR-radar

I hope his wife spends all his money and forgets his name, maybe becomes a lesbian. That’s my secret wish.

319
Barefoot Grin  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:52:41pm

Rudy’s a big time cigar chomper, second-hand smoke inhaler. Not sure where I’m going with this….

320
EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:54:12pm

re: #316 Ace Rothstein

It can not be understated the amount of destruction that Rush Limbaugh did to the political discourse in this country.

He had lots of help. The sheer industrial scale of the right wing noise machine is too often ignored.

321
PrairieQueen  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:55:20pm

re: #318 PrairieQueen

And celebrates the dawn of a new life without that old thang on Ellen’s show.

322
Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:55:30pm

re: #306 Barefoot Grin

Heh….

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Ha ha ha. That’s pretty good.

323
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:56:44pm

re: #316 Ace Rothstein

It can not be understated the amount of destruction that Rush Limbaugh did to the political discourse in this country.

I really do not want to hear “But you have to give him credit.” This is a man who relished in pushing racism and bigotry for cheap laughs.

324
Charles Johnson  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:59:02pm
325
EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 3:59:14pm

re: #323 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I really do not want to hear “But you have to give him credit.” This is a man who relished in pushing racism and bigotry for cheap laughs.

Rush getting cancer don’t make him either better or worse as a person — he remains the same piece of shit he has been in his entire career. I.e., a latter-day version of Father Coughlin.

326
b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:01:42pm

re: #324 Charles Johnson

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keep me posted boss

my sock drawer is a mess and needs some of my attention instead.

327
sagehen  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:05:00pm

re: #244 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

you make a fair point

mine was if she thinks trump learned anything…

He’s learned to cover his tracks better?

328
Eventual Carrion  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:08:11pm

re: #147 BeachDem

Well now I want to play.
Best 4:
Beatles—Forest Hills
Harry Chapin—one of many, but one night at Blossom, he played for about 4 hours—as long as anyone stayed to listen
BB King, Little Feat, Dr. John
Billy Joel/Elton John

All the live shows I can remember (some multiple times)—long list, so hidden to protect many from boredom

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Dan Fogelberg was a good concert. Saw him in Jackson MS around ‘76-‘77. Was a real nice show.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:11:03pm

So today’s words about the caucuses are EPIC, DISASTER, CHAOS, DEBACLE, DEMS IN DISARRAY, HORRORS!!

Let’s hop into the time machine and check some of the reporting on the 2012 Republican caucus situation:

HuffPo—calm and considered:
A final count of votes from the 2012 Iowa Caucus may show that Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum actually won over rival Mitt Romney.

Doubts about Romney’s win surfaced quickly after the caucus, with one vote-counter from Appanoose County coming out less than 48 hours after the caucuses and claiming a mistake gave the former Massachusetts governor 20 extra votes.

Matt Strawn, chairman of the Iowa GOP, responded to the claim with a statement assuring that the final Iowa Caucus results would come after a “two-week certification process for each of the 1,774 precincts.” He also said the Iowa Republican party did “not have any reason to believe the final, certified results of Appanoose County will change the outcome of Tuesday’s vote.”

Politico—ho hum:
Strawn’s Thursday announcement, which placed Santorum ahead but didn’t definitively declare him a winner because eight precincts had yet to report their results, had left enough uncertainty for Romney’s campaign to suggest that the state was a draw.

ABC—
At first
:
DES MOINES, Iowa Jan. 4, 2012— — Mitt Romney won the first presidential preference contest of 2012 by a mere eight votes Tuesday, narrowly edging out a surging Rick Santorum in the Iowa Caucuses.

Then, calm as a bunch of cucumbers:
Final Iowa Results: Santorum Tops Romney, but We’ll Never Know Who Won

On caucus night, precinct officials phoned in results to an automated system after they’d counted the votes by hand. As the last precincts reported their votes, the tally swung back and forth into the wee hours of Jan. 4. Since the Iowa Republican Party announced on caucus night that Romney had edged Santorum by a mere eight votes, it has been collecting certified results forms from Iowa’s counties and precincts.

Thursday’s results are final. Santorum will forever hold a lead with incomplete returns.

NPR—we just want to clarify:
Rick Santorum is officially the winner of the Jan. 3 Iowa Republican presidential caucus. The state Republican Party reversed itself from a previous assertion that it would not declare one, given problems at eight precincts, as The Des Moines Register reported.

In a news release late Friday, the party said it called the race “in order to clarify conflicting reports and to affirm the results released Jan. 18 by the Republican Party of Iowa.”
The preliminary count on the Jan. 3 caucus put former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney ahead by eight votes, as NPR reported that night. Later, the party said there was no official winner, though a recanvassing of the votes showed Santorum won by 34 votes.

Daily Beast:
Did Rick Santorum win the Iowa caucus?

Shot:
This possibility has the Iowa state GOP under new scrutiny as they begin the official certification process, which they have promised to complete by the end of the week.

Chaser:
The national media to date has largely dismissed this story—which was first reported by local Des Moines station KCCI—apparently choosing to trust the state GOP’s initial off-the-record assurances that the story had zero credibility.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:16:05pm

re: #328 Eventual Carrion

Dan Fogelberg was a good concert. Saw him in Jackson MS around ‘76-‘77. Was a real nice show.

My favorite singer/songwriter of all. Never thought he got the recognition he deserved.

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Chrysicat  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:26:10pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A Mom Anon  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:30:27pm

re: #70 BigPapa

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:40:30pm

re: #332 A Mom Anon

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:48:58pm

21st Century Doors

I saw the 21st Century Doors at LA Universal Amphitheater,with Ian Astbury from The Cult in the Jim Morrison (Morrison Hotel) role and Stewart Copeland from The Police in the John Densmore role, along with Manzarak and Krieger. An amazing high crowd energy show that blew away my expectations

Worst: Van Halen Day 2 at US 1983. Too drunk, too inconsiderate to other acts, too pompous and too greedy.

Best part of that show was day three where every band denounced all those traits without mentioning Van Halen and Bowie ( bidding war for top $).then launched into some ferocious sets. Including this then unknown band who played at 0900 and instantly woke us all up and turned us into fans. The band: U2


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A Compline Prayer For those of us who follow traditions that include the daily offices, Compline is the last service of the day, right before going to sleep for the night. It gives a moment to pause and reflect upon the day ...
William Lewis
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200322This was another weekend that doesn't look like much in pictures. We made a cutout in the stock tank for the spillway slab.It weighs 55 pounds. We spent some time figuring how to balance it properly and get a nice ...
I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
5 days, 7 hours ago
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Betrayal-Why Did Trump Believe Chinese Disinformation Instead of US Intelligence? ...This criticism contains an element of truth. As The Wall Street Journal reported in early March, the Chinese government lied about the threat posed by COVID-19 and the coronavirus’s transmissibility to humans, and dragged its feet in informing the ...
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Ozarks Season 3 - Starts Friday Official Trailer for Ozark Season 3. All new episodes arrive on Netflix March 27, 2020. They are all in. The Byrdes are back in business and the stakes have never been higher. As tensions mount surrounding their new casino, ...
Thanos
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Nothing but Thieves - Is Everybody Going Crazy? (Lyric Video) Nothing But Thieves - Is Everybody Going Crazy (Official Lyric Video) Listen to IEGC? here: nbthiev.esSpotify: nbthiev.esApple Music: nbthiev.esItunes: nbthiev.esYouTube Music: nbthiev.esAmazon Music: nbthiev.esDeezer: nbthiev.es Click here to subscribe :: smarturl.it Follow NBT on Socials: Facebook: nbthiev.esTwitter: nbthiev.esInstagram: nbthiev.esSpotify: ...
Thanos
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Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day - I Think We’re Alone Now (Cover) Dear friends.. While we’ve all been in quarantine I’ve been reflecting on the things that matter the most in my life. Family, friends and of course music. I recorded a cover of Tommy James and the shondells “I think ...
Thanos
1 week ago
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