The Bob Cesca Podcast: Caucus Blockus

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Berry Law Firm:

Caucus Blockus — NSFW! Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; The Iowa Caucus debacle; The app and the paper trail; Republican concern trolling; The 2012 GOP Iowa Caucus; Russian trolls checking in; State of the Union expectations; Trump and Kansas City; Trump’s childish fidgeting during the National Anthem; Trump acquittal in the Senate; Joni Ernst accidentally spills the beans; Joe Manchin and censuring the president; Iran and Headaches; With music by Mike Farley Band and I Hate You Just Kidding; and more!

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1
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:06:30pm

I’m already thinking about New Hampshire, and how important it is for all of us that Warren does really well there, hopefully winning. If Bernie wins the Berners will declare any loss of Bernie later a cover-up, like they are doing in Iowa.

I was never really on the Warren bandwagon, but it now seems she’s the only real alternative to Bernie and Biden.

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Skip Intro  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:07:59pm

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

They’re going to do that no matter what so it really doesn’t matter.

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lawhawk  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:08:20pm

So, partial Iowa caucus results were released, and it shows…. what people should consider to be a 4-way race where the candidates will split (checks notes) 41 delegates.

In the precincts reporting, Buttigieg has won nearly 27 percent of the delegates. Sanders follows with 25 percent, and Warren has collected 18 percent. Biden, with 16 percent, is three points ahead of Sen. Amy Klobuchar.

It’s worth reiterating that the 62 percent of the precincts that have been reported are not necessarily representative of the whole state. Sanders, who leads the popular vote, could surpass Buttigieg in delegate count.

This is bulkshit on a stick and anyone waiting breathlessly for a final tally should get on with their lives. There will be no momentum. No one is pulling ahead of the pack, but if there’s a real loser here, it’s Bernie Sanders who has spent the last 4 years claiming that he’s the next rightful nominee, and he’s not able to get a win in a state that is tailor made for his effort - a lily-white state with nothing approximating what the US demographics look like.

4
Sherlock Hound  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:14:55pm

If Bernie loses, I’m afraid for some average small-town clerk. They will get death threats, like when Ron Paul was running in NH.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:18:17pm

re: #4 Sherlock Hound

If Bernie loses, I’m afraid for some average small-town clerk. They will get death threats, like when Ron Paul was running in NH.

They inspire the same kind of people unfortunately

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Dread Pirate  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:18:40pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:19:48pm

I wonder if the murderer Eddie Gallagher will be one of Trump’s guests this evening.

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Citizen K  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:20:29pm

re: #6 Dread Pirate

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I didn’t realize the Amadeus was making a comeback these days.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:21:58pm

I put too much time and effort into this post to leave it dying on the last thread.

re: #329 BeachDem

So today’s words about the caucuses are EPIC, DISASTER, CHAOS, DEBACLE, DEMS IN DISARRAY, HORRORS!!

Let’s hop into the time machine and check some of the reporting on the 2012 Republican caucus situation:

HuffPo—calm and considered:
A final count of votes from the 2012 Iowa Caucus may show that Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum actually won over rival Mitt Romney.

Doubts about Romney’s win surfaced quickly after the caucus, with one vote-counter from Appanoose County coming out less than 48 hours after the caucuses and claiming a mistake gave the former Massachusetts governor 20 extra votes.

Matt Strawn, chairman of the Iowa GOP, responded to the claim with a statement assuring that the final Iowa Caucus results would come after a “two-week certification process for each of the 1,774 precincts.” He also said the Iowa Republican party did “not have any reason to believe the final, certified results of Appanoose County will change the outcome of Tuesday’s vote.”

Politico—ho hum:
Strawn’s Thursday announcement, which placed Santorum ahead but didn’t definitively declare him a winner because eight precincts had yet to report their results, had left enough uncertainty for Romney’s campaign to suggest that the state was a draw.

ABC—
At first
:
DES MOINES, Iowa Jan. 4, 2012— — Mitt Romney won the first presidential preference contest of 2012 by a mere eight votes Tuesday, narrowly edging out a surging Rick Santorum in the Iowa Caucuses.

Then, calm as a bunch of cucumbers:
Final Iowa Results: Santorum Tops Romney, but We’ll Never Know Who Won

On caucus night, precinct officials phoned in results to an automated system after they’d counted the votes by hand. As the last precincts reported their votes, the tally swung back and forth into the wee hours of Jan. 4. Since the Iowa Republican Party announced on caucus night that Romney had edged Santorum by a mere eight votes, it has been collecting certified results forms from Iowa’s counties and precincts.

Thursday’s results are final. Santorum will forever hold a lead with incomplete returns.

NPR—we just want to clarify:
Rick Santorum is officially the winner of the Jan. 3 Iowa Republican presidential caucus. The state Republican Party reversed itself from a previous assertion that it would not declare one, given problems at eight precincts, as The Des Moines Register reported.

In a news release late Friday, the party said it called the race “in order to clarify conflicting reports and to affirm the results released Jan. 18 by the Republican Party of Iowa.”
The preliminary count on the Jan. 3 caucus put former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney ahead by eight votes, as NPR reported that night. Later, the party said there was no official winner, though a recanvassing of the votes showed Santorum won by 34 votes.

Daily Beast:
Did Rick Santorum win the Iowa caucus?

Shot:
This possibility has the Iowa state GOP under new scrutiny as they begin the official certification process, which they have promised to complete by the end of the week.

Chaser:
The national media to date has largely dismissed this story—which was first reported by local Des Moines station KCCI—apparently choosing to trust the state GOP’s initial off-the-record assurances that the story had zero credibility.

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sagehen  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:22:11pm

re: #8 Citizen K

I didn’t realize the Amadeus was making a comeback these days.

Are you sure that’s not the Quaker Oats guy?

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:22:51pm

You don’t say.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:26:49pm

re: #11 Ace Rothstein

You don’t say.

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I really hope that one day all of them are prosecuted.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:27:09pm

My game plan for tonight: finish A Very Stable Genius — a daunting task since there are 270 pages to go and I have shopping to do for tomorrow night’s film group meeting at my house. Plans do not include paying any attention to the SOTU, except for what’s posted here.

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Chrysicat  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:27:18pm

CL’d with a kiss:

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:31:19pm

Looking at the NH preference polling conglomerate:

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

It strikes me that without Biden the results would be very different, with Warren and Buttigieg being likely beneficiaries.

Odd this year is that the Democrats keep stepping on their toes. But then again, I’ve always called the modern Democratic party the I’m-not-a-Republican party, that is, there isn’t so much a coherent set of beliefs but rather the party is a general collection of people who know they don’t like the modern (post-Nixon) Republicans.

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gocart mozart  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:35:34pm
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Citizen K  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:35:52pm

re: #10 sagehen

Are you sure that’s not the Quaker Oats guy?

Nah, too fluffy and curly.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:36:55pm

Speaking of Nate, here he is on his fainting couch:

Iowa Might Have Screwed Up The Whole Nomination Process

Read that headline again.

What Silver really means is that Iowa messed up his nomination process model.

The blog entry title is really over the top.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:37:02pm

And now some good news….

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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:37:38pm

re: #15 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Looking at the NH preference polling conglomerate:

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

It strikes me that without Biden the results would be very different, with Warren and Buttigieg being likely beneficiaries.

Odd this year is that the Democrats keep stepping on their toes. But then again, I’ve always called the modern Democratic party the I’m-not-a-Republican party, that is, there isn’t so much a coherent set of beliefs but rather the party is a general collection of people who know they don’t like the modern (post-Nixon) Republicans.

Another way of saying basically the same thing is that Republicans are now the party of the batshit insane and willfully deluded who are happy to be led by their psychopathic masters.

Everyone with defined politics who isn’t all-in on the GOP insanity needs a different party, so it’s inevitable that Democrats pull in different ways on many major issues.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:42:36pm

re: #19 A Mom Anon

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:45:20pm

re: #20 EPR-radar

Back in the 1960’s the Democratic party split, with HHH leading the progressives but Wallace leading the old bigoted southern white Democrats eventually out of the party.

Since HHH, I can’t really say any Democratic party nominee for President has been ideologically driven. Carter… Mondale… right through Obama and Hillary, were basically calculated choices to bridge a conglomerate of old (back to FDR) voting demos.

The GOP has become the party of Christian white nationalism. That is bad. But they have an ideology and a way of propagating it. That is important, and it is why Trump is in the WH and the GOP controls the Senate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:49:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:52:01pm

PSA:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:52:04pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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People who know him best know he’s scum. People who get the FNC propaganda otoh.

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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:52:32pm

re: #22 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Back in the 1960’s the Democratic party split, with HHH leading the progressives but Wallace leading the old bigoted southern white Democrats eventually out of the party.

Since HHH, I can’t really say any Democratic party nominee for President has been ideologically driven. Carter… Mondale… right through Obama and Hillary, were basically calculated choices to bridge a conglomerate of old (back to FDR) voting demos.

The GOP has become the party of Christian white nationalism. That is bad. But they have an ideology and a way of propagating it. That is important, and it is why Trump is in the WH and the GOP controls the Senate.

Agreed. Say what you will about Christian White Nationalism, at least it’s an ethos.

It’s extremely difficult to unify around “not-Christian White Nationalism”. Hence a circus in every contested D presidential primary.

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BeachDem  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:56:25pm

Sick but funny.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:56:29pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 4, 2020 • 4:59:06pm

re: #15 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Looking at the NH preference polling conglomerate:

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

It strikes me that without Biden the results would be very different, with Warren and Buttigieg being likely beneficiaries.

Odd this year is that the Democrats keep stepping on their toes. But then again, I’ve always called the modern Democratic party the I’m-not-a-Republican party, that is, there isn’t so much a coherent set of beliefs but rather the party is a general collection of people who know they don’t like the modern (post-Nixon) Republicans.

Will Rogers died in 1935 — among the political statements he made:

“I’m not a member of any organized political party…. I’m a Democrat.”

“Democrats never agree on anything, that’s why they’re Democrats. If they agreed with each other, they’d be Republicans.”

It’s not just the modern Democratic party — it’s the party during the entire 20th century and now it’s continuing its disorganized ways into the 21st century.

At one time there was a significant overlap in ideology between the parties but with Nixon’s Southern strategy, the Reagan administration assault on the environment and unions and quiet support for racism followed by Gingrich’s take-no-hostages in taking control, the parties now have no policies or views in common.

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sagehen  Feb 4, 2020 • 5:00:14pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

My game plan for tonight: finish A Very Stable Genius — a daunting task since there are 270 pages to go and I have shopping to do for tomorrow night’s film group meeting at my house. Plans do not include paying any attention to the SOTU, except for what’s posted here.

the authors are on Colbert tonight, for the live show after SOTU

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 4, 2020 • 5:00:38pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2020 • 5:01:05pm

Job well done Iowa Dems. I’m already seeing my Bernie acquaintances having a fit over what happened. “They don’t want you. The fix is in. Again.” yadda yadda yadda.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 4, 2020 • 5:01:58pm

re: #32 GlutenFreeJesus

Job well done Iowa Dems. I’m already seeing my Bernie acquaintances having a fit over what happened. “They don’t want you. The fix is in. Again.” yadda yadda yadda.

Maybe learn to GOTV instead of shit talking on Twitter and Facebook.

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EPR-radar  Feb 4, 2020 • 5:12:10pm

re: #33 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Maybe learn to GOTV instead of shit talking on Twitter and Facebook.

GOTV is work. Internet shitposting is not work. Simple, really.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 4, 2020 • 5:20:32pm

re: #33 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Maybe learn to GOTV instead of shit talking on Twitter and Facebook.

The most work they’re willing to do is to buy tshirts.

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gocart mozart  Feb 4, 2020 • 5:28:34pm

Crosby also hates Mike Love


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