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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 10, 2020 • 7:54:46pm
18 U.S. Code § 1513.Retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant. (e)Whoever knowingly, with the intent to retaliate, takes any action harmful to any person, including interference with the lawful employment or livelihood of any person, for providing to a law enforcement officer any truthful information relating to the commission or possible commission of any Federal offense, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.
law.cornell.edu

Enforce the effing law.

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:00:16pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:02:16pm

re: #2 jaunte

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Can he bring his plus one? Their expertise is sorely needed here./:

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:05:17pm

re: #2 jaunte

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Dread Pirate  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:07:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:10:26pm
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jaunte  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:11:13pm

Knowingly doing wrong is the brand.

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:12:35pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:14:25pm

Why Is Giuliani Giving Info To The US Attorney In Pittsburgh?

Hint—google Judge Art Schwab the Federalist Society Stooge who threw the book at Tommy Chong and was continually cited for his partisan bias at the trial of former Allegheny County Commissioner/Coroner Cyril Wecht.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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gocart mozart  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:15:17pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:20:45pm

re: #5 Dread Pirate

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He’d push 9/11 truthers if he felt it would divert attention from his crimes and FNC would overnight become one to accommodate thatZ

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:22:29pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:24:43pm

re: #12 jaunte

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Remember this the next time you hear the GOP jack itself off for supporting states rights.

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:26:42pm

re: #13 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

This kind of politically inspired micromanagement makes me wonder what the DoJ is leaving undone.

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:28:33pm

The weirdest part of Trump convincing his followers that he’s a genius businessman is that everything he does could be the bad example in a management course.

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jaunte  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:30:02pm
Meeting with U.S. Governors in a short while. All States are doing well. “Thank you Mr. President.”

All employees begin updating resumes.

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gocart mozart  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:31:34pm

Adult Video Awards
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BeachDem  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:36:25pm

Apparently, Catherine Rampell is NOT a big fan of Judy Shelton (Shelton’s confirmation hearing is Thursday, and if she gets approved, it’s going to be really awful.):
Yes, Trump’s latest Fed pick is that bad. Here’s why.

In short, Shelton is an opportunist and a quack. Senate Republicans seem to know this — but they still may be too craven to oppose her nomination, for fear of crossing Trump…

Just as troubling as her many opportunistic policy reversals, though, are the ideas Shelton still hasn’t reversed herself on. Especially: her desire to bring back the gold standard…

She has made clear that she would tattle to (sorry, “coordinate with”) the president about Fed meetings. This would make candid discussion — and, therefore, independent policymaking — impossible.

What’s more, she would almost certainly be viewed as a Fed chair-in-waiting if Trump gets reelected.

Nine years ago, Senate Republicans blocked a Fed Board candidate nominated by President Barack Obama on the grounds that the candidate was supposedly unqualified — despite the fact that that nominee, Peter Diamond, had a Nobel Prize in economics. Surely these same lawmakers can be at least 1/100th as picky today.

The global economy depends on it.

washingtonpost.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:37:34pm

Well, I hope their drivers don’t over react like drivers in Georgia when it snows.
One of my current great fears is that it will snow here in Northern Florida.
Florida drivers lose their damn minds when it rains. And, it rains all the damn time.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:40:00pm

Victor Davis Hanson shit-blog. I see he’s in Fresno, good friends with Nunes I guess.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:44:16pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:47:12pm
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Belafon  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:51:05pm

re: #21 Dread Pirate

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I see a lot of replies that miss his point, which I think is that people shouldn’t run from Biden just because he’s being targeted by Trump and his minions. You might have legitimate ones, but the investigation into Hunter shouldn’t be one of them.

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Mattand  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:53:21pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

“I have faith in the bulk of the Senate that they know what they did was wrong,” Joe Biden says on CNN, referring to Republicans who voted to acquit President Trump.

Oh, Jesus Christ, Joe, THIS MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DID, THEY DON’T FUCKING CARE. A GODDAMAN AMOEBA CAN SEE THAT.

Also, Joe: SENATE REPUBLICANS ARE HELPING TO TRY TO FUCKING FRAME YOU AND YOUR KID.

Ugh. This. Right here. Is why Biden should not be President. Obama kept extending his hand and had it taken off up to his elbow. Biden is aiming to become the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Sorry to be shouty. Maybe this Magic Balance Fairy shit is working with the idiot “independents”. It just seems so clueless that he keeps clinging to this idea that the Senate he was in 1991 still exists.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:53:25pm
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Mattand  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:56:46pm

re: #24 Mattand

I had a couple of glaring typos in that rant (shocker, I know). Hopefully got them all.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 10, 2020 • 8:57:10pm

Triggered Conservative Snowflakes still butthurted over South Koreans dominating the Academy Awards yesterday.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 10, 2020 • 9:02:22pm
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danarchy  Feb 10, 2020 • 9:08:50pm

Bloomberg won both the republican and democratic primary in Dixville Notch, as a write in on both sides.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 10, 2020 • 9:09:01pm

Ok here comes the first votes

Bloomberg wins Dixville Notch and he won BOTH the Democratic and Republican tally

Only 5 votes this time

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gocart mozart  Feb 10, 2020 • 9:09:59pm

Today in garbage people

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Dread Pirate  Feb 10, 2020 • 9:13:07pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 10, 2020 • 9:15:50pm

First 3 percents counted in New Hampshire has Klobuchar in the lead.

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mmmirele  Feb 10, 2020 • 9:17:33pm

I’m actually learning something. I actually recognized some kanji (Japanese writing using Chinese characters) in the wild.

天気の子

It’s pronounced “ten ki no ko” and can mean “weather child” or “child of the weather.” It’s also the Japanese name of a movie that is currently in US movie theatres under the name “Weathering With You.”

You have no idea how pleased I am right now.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 10, 2020 • 9:18:48pm
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Belafon  Feb 10, 2020 • 9:19:49pm

re: #34 mmmirele

I’m actually learning something. I actually recognized some kanji (Japanese writing using Chinese characters) in the wild.

天気の子

It’s pronounced “ten ki no ko” and can mean “weather child” or “child of the weather.” It’s also the Japanese name of a movie that is currently in US movie theatres under the name “Weathering With You.”

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You have no idea how pleased I am right now.

Good job, and good movie.

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William Lewis  Feb 10, 2020 • 9:41:29pm

re: #34 mmmirele

I’m actually learning something. I actually recognized some kanji (Japanese writing using Chinese characters) in the wild.

天気の子

It’s pronounced “ten ki no ko” and can mean “weather child” or “child of the weather.” It’s also the Japanese name of a movie that is currently in US movie theatres under the name “Weathering With You.”

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You have no idea how pleased I am right now.

Oh, I think I might have a small bit - When I was there in 1985, I remember learning enough spoken nihongo to order a drink or a meal and get train tickets to go scooting around Tokyo by my gaijin self (a bearded white guy sticks out!). I could read a tiny bit of hirigana script but never could wrap my brain around any kanji. Congrats!

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Belafon  Feb 10, 2020 • 10:18:17pm

My youngest has been learning it from Duolingo.

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sagehen  Feb 10, 2020 • 11:17:05pm

re: #31 gocart mozart

Today in garbage people

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Sadly, my wingnut sister is an Andy Ngo fangirl. She called me the other day aghast at a story he’d done about NYC…. a total bullshit story. About antifa mobs attacking the subway, vandalizing turnstiles by pouring honey in the card-swipe slots, graffitiing the cars, rioting and injuring cops who tried to stop them, etc.

I pointed out that this was the sort of thing that if it had ever actually happened surely there’d have been something about it on the local news, which there most certainly hasn’t been. She didn’t want to believe me. Just went on ranting about antifa.

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Citizen K  Feb 10, 2020 • 11:42:05pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

“I have faith in the bulk of the Senate that they know what they did was wrong,” Joe Biden says on CNN, referring to Republicans who voted to acquit President Trump.

And this is exactly why I can’t put my hope behind Biden. He is far too convinced that the sanctity of comity is there. As Mattand pointed out, Obama tried this, and even he eventually learned that the Republicans are intractable at this point, and they’ve gotten even worse since Trump was elected. What makes him think that they’ll reverse course, when the transition from Bush to Obama had them going off the goddamn rails to begin with?

There’s not going to be a fucking kumbaya moment with the GOP where they’ll suddenly be less averse to working in good faith. Either the current crop that have specialized in bad faith are wiped out and more amenable ones are voted in (look, I’m trying to at least humor the thought for the sake of this), or the party needs to be just completely wiped out because the very core is rotten. And trying to reach out with a fig leaf toward them is begging for not only more bad faith dealing undermining everything you do, but more “both sides same thing” bullshit from the media deciding that somehow, you’re the intractable one for not dropping trou and letting Republicans line up to kick field goals with your crotch as a “show of goodwill”.

….meanwhile…

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 11, 2020 • 12:27:49am
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unproven innocence  Feb 11, 2020 • 1:48:19am

OT: Coronavirus incubation period may be as high as 14 24 days.

Coronavirus: Up To 24 Days Before Symptoms Start Showing?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 11, 2020 • 2:00:08am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 11, 2020 • 2:53:46am

re: #35 Dread Pirate

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I know this war has to end someday, but I grieve for what becomes of the women and girls of Afghanistan if the Taliban return to power.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 11, 2020 • 3:44:08am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 11, 2020 • 4:08:36am

re: #45 Dave In Austin

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As I said in an earlier thread, its strange that the Democratic nominee may be either a socialist or a Republican.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 4:36:15am

re: #34 mmmirele

I’m actually learning something. I actually recognized some kanji (Japanese writing using Chinese characters) in the wild.

天気の子

It’s pronounced “ten ki no ko” and can mean “weather child” or “child of the weather.” It’s also the Japanese name of a movie that is currently in US movie theatres under the name “Weathering With You.”

You have no idea how pleased I am right now.

A buddy of mine lived in Japan and learned to decipher kanji. He pointed out the label on a box he had: Maruchi tereku kasetu rekoda or “multi-track cassette recorder”

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 11, 2020 • 4:37:00am
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 11, 2020 • 4:45:30am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 4:46:05am

re: #45 Dave In Austin

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Add the other 2 midnight precincts in and Amy now leads on the Democratic side…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 4:47:50am

re: #48 Patricia Kayden

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Why is FAUX and FIENDS pushing Jeremy Sanders?

Because they know that Bernie Corbyn will lose in a massive landslide to Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 4:50:02am

re: #51 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why is FAUX and FIENDS pushing Jeremy Sanders?

Because they know that Bernie Corbyn will lose in a massive landslide to Trump.

They are going to attack his opponents until he wins the nomination and then turn on him with a fury we have not seen since George Dukakis.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 11, 2020 • 4:54:49am

re: #48 Patricia Kayden

Because they have tons of shit on Bernie and his wife that they cannot wait to use. Hell, it could be made up shit and it could still work. If FOX wants to see a Democrat in the race, it’s a big clue that they’ve got their ducks in a row to attack that candidate. Nothing else explains their shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 4:55:40am

re: #53 A Mom Anon

Because they have tons of shit on Bernie and his wife that they cannot wait to use. Hell, it could be made up shit and it could still work. If FOX wants to see a Democrat in the race, it’s a big clue that they’ve got their ducks in a row to attack that candidate. Nothing else explains their shit.

and the GOP has no primary process to distract them from all the underhanded meddling they care to indulge themselves in.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 11, 2020 • 4:58:41am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:00:36am

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

Trump told the country there 0 injuries from this attack.

and then indicated that the injuries reported were not serious

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:00:45am

Bernie is the guy FNC has been wanting to run against for years.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:08:17am

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are going to attack his opponents until he wins the nomination and then turn on him with a fury we have not seen since George Dukakis.

They will go after Jane Sanders with a fury that will make their attacks on Hillary look like a Disco 54 Party. By the time they’re finished Bernie Corbyn will go down to a 1972/1984 defeat.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:09:44am

Trump green lighted New Hampshire Republicans to ratfuck the primary and his GOP operatives in South Carolina are issuing the same marching orders—go to the polls and vote for Bernie.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:10:49am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:24:19am

re: #58 Joe Bacon 🌹

They will go after Jane Sanders with a fury that will make their attacks on Hillary look like a Disco 54 Party. By the time they’re finished Bernie Corbyn will go down to a 1972/1984 defeat.

True Berniebros are too idealistic to see that, and that is just what the faux supporters want to effect.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:32:27am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and then indicated that the injuries reported were not serious

Who needs a working brain? Why, you could even be president.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:33:54am

re: #62 BlueSpotinAL

Who needs a working brain? Why, you could even be president.

nothing serious like bone spurs…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:38:14am

I got a feeling if Amy pulls an upset in New Hampshire the Berniebots will go into meltdown mode.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:40:12am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:41:25am

re: #65 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Swift Boating for a new era.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:45:07am

re: #66 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Curious minds want to know!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:46:25am

re: #67 Joe Bacon 🌹

Curious minds want to know!

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No one in his family has ever served. Yet he thinks he can attack the patriotism of others.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:47:15am

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:51:40am

re: #64 Joe Bacon 🌹

I got a feeling if Amy pulls an upset in New Hampshire the Berniebots will go into meltdown mode.

I’d rather have that happen now (or as early as possible) as compared to Sanders maintaining any sort of traction. The sooner Sanders sinks to afterthought as candidate means more time for people to rally around the better candidate. I doubt the fanatic bros will shift, but not all supporting Sanders at this point are fanatics and the time should hopefully bring them around to understand that the foremost priority is making Trump lose the election.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 11, 2020 • 5:54:11am

re: #66 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Swift Boating for a new era.

This is the thing; the GOP is going to fabricate scandal about whoever the nominee is. The difference is that there were decades of lies about Clinton even before the years of investigating Benghazi and her emails. It will be hard for them to gin up that much disaffection against the nominee this year in the short time before the election without the backdrop of decades of lies creating a suspicion of corruption. I don’t believe Bernie will lose badly because the people most likely to cast a protest vote because “both parties are the same” are the Bernie supporters, and splitting the vote is the only way Trump can win.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:00:05am

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

I’m still curious how more than 100 got TBIs, but no other injuries were reported. Something still feels fishy about the incident and how the defense department/WH is reporting the injuries.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:00:56am

I’m not a Bernie supporter, but he is not Jeremy Corbyn. He’s popular, and Corbyn never has been. Corbyn is an honest-to-goodness socialist, and Bernie isn’t, even if he calls himself one. And England is much, much whiter than the US. I’m pretty sure Bernie can beat Trump if he is the nominee.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:02:37am

re: #73 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m not a Bernie supporter, but he is not Jeremy Corbyn. He’s popular, and Corbyn never has been. Corbyn is an honest-to-goodness socialist, and Bernie isn’t, even if he calls himself one. And England is much, much whiter than the US. I’m pretty sure Bernie can beat Trump if he is the nominee.

an analogy, not a comparison: both have a long background of public service that can be easily picked apart and attacked by a merciless conservative press

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:04:05am

re: #69 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Should show his head on a pike with the same thought balloon.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:04:13am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:07:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:10:23am

re: #77 NO SMOCKING GUN!

i have problems with the framing but fundamentally these guys are arguing that “i don’t want anyone recording me” is an acceptable excuse for cops to slack off (or “slow down” if you prefer.) they want to be worshiped as heroes when they’re mostly pathetic cowards and babies.

to turn an old argument on its head “what do have to fear if you are not breaking the law?”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:10:26am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

an analogy, not a comparison: both have a long background of public service that can be easily picked apart and attacked by a merciless conservative press

Which they will do to whoever the nominee is. None of the candidates are perfect people who don’t have a flaw which can be picked at, and even if there was a flawless candidate, the Right would just invent scandals.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:12:45am

re: #73 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m not a Bernie supporter, but he is not Jeremy Corbyn. He’s popular, and Corbyn never has been. Corbyn is an honest-to-goodness socialist, and Bernie isn’t, even if he calls himself one. And England is much, much whiter than the US. I’m pretty sure Bernie can beat Trump if he is the nominee.

respectfully, whatever bernie actually ‘believes’ - whether he’s a democratic socialist, or something else:

they will paint him as an evil socialist

they will absolutely hammer this endlessly. it’ll be in every ad, hashtag and likely it’ll be trump’s ‘nickname’ “socialist bernie” or some such.

it’s a problem because:

Gallup: “More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.”

“Just one group tested — socialists — receives majority opposition. Less than half of Americans, 45%, say they would vote for a socialist for president, while 53% say they would not.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:15:30am

I’m just saying that the pendulum has swung way too far over. In 2016 we thought Trump couldn’t win; now we are terrified that he is nearly unbeatable, when in reality any other candidate with polling like his would be viewed as a bleeding swimmer being circled by sharks. Unified Democrats, energized to beat Trump, should be heavily favored.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:18:00am

re: #76 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Police use of deadly force and excessive force is at a low because of an increased awareness that this is bad. Crime is at all time lows and police training has focused on less lethal means of ending confrontations. It has reduced violence, but the right wingers want to paint NYC as absolutely lawless and that Democrats enable criminals when there are incidents such as when a ex-felon somehow obtained a gun and used it to attack cops in two separate incidents.

But for the easy availability of guns, those incidents would not occur. Nationwide strong gun control would do more for public safety and the wellbeing of law enforcement than any other measure.

The leading cause of death for cops in the line of duty: gun violence.

But for the easy availability of guns, those cops would not be killed. Many more are injured in the line of duty and are saved due to their bulletproof vests. The solution isn’t to upgrade their guns and ammo, but to make it harder for people to engage in straw sales, buy across state lines to circumvent strong gun laws, etc.

As it is, significant numbers of guns used in crimes in places like NYC are coming from outside NY - states with weaker gun laws such as PA, NC, VA, SC, etc. The iron pipeline has consequences.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:21:27am

re: #82 lawhawk

But for the easy availability of guns, those incidents would not occur. Nationwide strong gun control would do more for public safety and the wellbeing of law enforcement than any other measure.

The leading cause of death for cops in the line of duty: gun violence.

We send our police out into a war zone as or more dangerous than Iraq or Afghanistan every day…

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:24:03am

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Open carry states are awful - and discriminate against those who aren’t white. We see this time and again (Tamir Rice, John Crawford, Philandro Castile, etc.) with deadly results.

Concealed carry is even worse - cops don’t know who’s packing, and the most dangerous situations cops encounter are vehicle stops and domestic violence situations.

Yet every other OECD country seems to manage with a lower per capita gun death rate than the US and less gun violence overall.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:24:41am
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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:24:42am

Bloomberg will only get my vote if he’s the nominee, but I really suspect he will pick Abrams to be his running mate, because he’s smart, knows what his weaknesses are, and has worked with her. And I think she’d accept.

I don’t know what pool of candidates Bernie will pick from. There’s a non-zero, though I think small, chance he could pick Tulsi. But he could also end up picking Pete, thinking it’s a radical choice, when it really isn’t. He’s the only existing candidate who could possibly think Gabbard is a reasonable choice.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:25:15am

re: #81 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m just saying that the pendulum has swung way too far over. In 2016 we thought Trump couldn’t win; now we are terrified that he is nearly unbeatable, when in reality any other candidate with polling like his would be viewed as a bleeding swimmer being circled by sharks. Unified Democrats, energized to beat Trump, should be heavily favored.

he’s not nearly unbeatable. he’s very beatable.
what he has this time is advantages he didnt have the first time.
incumbency and a pretty well built propaganda machine that knows how to deliver its message to the willing horde.

and unlike trump, i’ve learned. i am cautiously aware that since he did it once, and so far against the odds, he could do it again.

with all that, as you say, there are many many indications that he’s got some serious structural problems that maybe he cannot overcome.

so for us; vigilanti semper

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:25:44am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:27:04am

re: #88 lawhawk

I got a feeling folks in prison aren’t gonna like the Nixon Tramp Stamp on Stone’s back…

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:30:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:31:54am

re: #84 lawhawk

Open carry states are awful - and discriminate against those who aren’t white. We see this time and again (Tamir Rice, John Crawford, Philandro Castile, etc.) with deadly results.

I haven’t toted out this old chestnut in a while:

If you want to defend your home and family with a gun, then I guess that is your good right, and nobody is coming after those rights.

But if you want to use a gun in a public-shooter setting, you need nerves of steel, years of experience and training, along with excellent situational awareness.

That is not a skills set you can simply purchase over the counter at your neighborhood sporting goods store.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:34:23am

re: #89 Joe Bacon 🌹

I got a feeling folks in prison aren’t gonna like the Nixon Tramp Stamp on Stone’s back…

im guessing he’s not gonna be locked up too long, if at all

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:34:38am

re: #87 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

he’s not nearly unbeatable. he’s very beatable.
what he has this time is advantages he didnt have the first time.
incumbency and a pretty well built propaganda machine that knows how to deliver its message to the willing horde.

He has most of the media on his side, he is ratings gold and they have no vested financial reason to cancel this ongoing political reality-TV crime and scandal show that he stars in every day…

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:35:02am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:35:24am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I haven’t toted out this old chestnut in a while:

If you want to defend your home and family with a gun, then I guess that is your good right, and nobody is coming after those rights.

But if you want to use a gun in a public-shooter setting, you need nerves of steel, years of experience and training, along with excellent situational awareness.

That is not a skills set you can simply purchase over the counter at your neighborhood sporting goods store.

And you have to keep practicing as well.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:36:37am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I haven’t toted out this old chestnut in a while:

If you want to defend your home and family with a gun, then I guess that is your good right, and nobody is coming after those rights.

But if you want to use a gun in a public-shooter setting, you need nerves of steel, years of experience and training, along with excellent situational awareness.

That is not a skills set you can simply purchase over the counter at your neighborhood sporting goods store.

and constant practice and re-training

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:37:14am

re: #95 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And you have to keep practicing as well.

gmta

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:40:11am

re: #85 lawhawk

…After housekeeping kicks back 98% to the owners…

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:46:02am
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jaunte  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:46:40am
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jeffreyw  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:49:24am

Good morning!

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lizardofid  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:51:57am

re: #101 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

STL v, TOR

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:54:09am

re: #100 jaunte

Yesterday, I sent a letter to AG Barr asking for answers after it was reported that Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, has been using a special channel to pass information to the DOJ for them to investigate.

AG Barr answers to nobody but Donald Trump and God, in that order…

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:55:46am

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:57:53am

re: #101 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Looks like the woodpecker brought an enforcer.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:59:07am

re: #102 lizardofid

STL v, TOR

Good morning!

I think the woodpecker brought the blue in for backup. It’s about to go down.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2020 • 6:59:10am

Neediest president* ever grabbing credit.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:01:16am

so much not winning:

Newly revised figures from Trump’s own Department of Labor show that 6.6 million new jobs were created in the first 36 months of Trump’s tenure, compared with 8.1 million in the final 36 months of Obama’s ― a decline of 19% under Trump…

according to…anyone who’s reporting the news.

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lizardofid  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:03:06am

re: #106 Eventual Carrion

I think the woodpecker brought the blue in for backup. It’s about to go down.

I thought he was there for the wooden bats.

//

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:08:34am

re: #86 Belafon

Bloomberg will only get my vote if he’s the nominee, but I really suspect he will pick Abrams to be his running mate, because he’s smart, knows what his weaknesses are, and has worked with her. And I think she’d accept.

I don’t know what pool of candidates Bernie will pick from. There’s a non-zero, though I think small, chance he could pick Tulsi. But he could also end up picking Pete, thinking it’s a radical choice, when it really isn’t. He’s the only existing candidate who could possibly think Gabbard is a reasonable choice.

TBH, I would prefer Bloomberg over Bernie. That is how little I think of Bernie.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:13:43am
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Eventual Carrion  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:14:33am

re: #111 jaunte

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Everything is fucking tRump commercial with these people.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:17:29am

re: #111 jaunte

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:21:36am

re: #113 The Pie Overlord!

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Don Jr not Ivanka will be their father’s political heir. Ivanka is the business heir.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:30:52am

re: #113 The Pie Overlord!

If you consider Trump’s greatest ability to be able to lie and get away with it, Jr. doesn’t even have that skill.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:40:13am

This is by far the most disturbing thing I’ve seen in a long time. Putting it behind the click, because I warned you.

No, seriously. I mean it, it’s really disturbing.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:42:36am

re: #116 makeitstop

Stronger warning next time. That was brutal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:45:15am

re: #116 makeitstop

This is by far the most disturbing thing I’ve seen in a long time. Putting it behind the click, because I warned you.

Looks like a popular TV show on Idiocracy

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:46:43am

re: #117 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Stronger warning next time. That was brutal.

Refresh #116 for stronger warning.

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Semper Fi  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:49:32am

re: #69 Joe Bacon 🌹

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This is absolutely the last time Mitt will do the right thing.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:51:54am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I haven’t toted out this old chestnut in a while:

If you want to defend your home and family with a gun, then I guess that is your good right, and nobody is coming after those rights.

But if you want to use a gun in a public-shooter setting, you need nerves of steel, years of experience and training, along with excellent situational awareness.

That is not a skills set you can simply purchase over the counter at your neighborhood sporting goods store.

I’m all for the castle doctrine - it’s your home. But SYG laws extend that to any public space, and basically give people the right to murder and retcon an excuse that it was done in self defense. We saw that with Zimmerman and we see it elsewhere.

It’s bad law and policy. Public carry of firearms should be held to a much higher standard.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:53:44am

re: #101 jeffreyw

STL v. TOR v. Woody, I’m going to steal your girlfriend away…

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:56:46am

re: #120 Semper Fi

This is absolutely the last time Mitt will do the right thing.

From what I’ve gathered, the state of Utah likes him more than Trump.

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sagehen  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:57:11am

re: #101 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

when our military does war games as a training exercise, blue team represents the US, red team represents The Enemy, green team represents Our Allies.

You could compile your birdfeeder pix into a graphic novel of the war of your choosing, either past or future-hypothetical.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:58:06am

re: #116 makeitstop

This is by far the most disturbing thing I’ve seen in a long time. Putting it behind the click, because I warned you.

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Darwin Award world championship finalists?

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 7:59:38am
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BigPapa  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:02:32am

I’m doing an experiment.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:04:13am

re: #126 lawhawk

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1) Trump pisses key geopolitical allies.
2) ???????????
3) Putin and Xi profit and our status in the world plummets.

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:06:21am

re: #125 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Darwin Award world championship finalists?

That ‘Oh, Gawd, mah jimmies’ meme comes to mind.

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sagehen  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:08:58am

re: #126 lawhawk

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If Trump responds to this by deporting all the Filipinos currently here on work visas… California hospitals would all lose their nursing staff.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:10:09am

re: #128 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

1) Trump pisses key geopolitical allies.
2) ???????????
3) Putin and Xi profit and our status in the world plummets.

4) winning!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:11:26am

re: #131 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

4) winning!

I’m getting tired of it. And I think I mispelled whining because that’s all Trump does when he’s not taking credit for the economy he lucked into and is slowly weakening through his own stupid policies.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:14:22am

re: #126 lawhawk

And the whole point of taking the Philippines from the Spanish in the first place - along with buying Alaska - was for the reach in the Pacific.

I would love for Bolton to understand that he’s enabling the dismantling of the very thing he claims to support.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:14:56am

re: #30 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hey Joe

Where are all those arrests that your relatives promised us? Didn’t they get it straight from Q-Anon’s mouth that there was going to be a roundup yesterday?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:18:44am

re: #134 Hecuba’s daughter

Hey Joe

Where are all those arrests that your relatives promised us? Didn’t they get it straight from Q-Anon’s mouth that there was going to be a roundup yesterday?

Hey they also insisted that JFK Jr was going to reveal himself at the big Q asshole rally a couple months ago!

I did make a discreet inquiry to Mr. Militia about the arrests. But then Mr. Militia insists that Obama was executed a couple months ago at Guantanamo…

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:20:00am
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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:21:57am

AOC has a primary challenger - a now former CNBC anchor:

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:27:56am

re: #137 lawhawk

AOC has a primary challenger - a now former CNBC anchor:

I don’t know much about the district. Do you see this going anywhere?

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:30:22am

re: #138 Belafon

I’ve got to believe that the GOP are intent on getting someone to defeat her by any means necessary. She won an unlikely primary win over Crowley who was an establishment Democrat who had represented the district for 20 years.

Does this person have the backing of enough people in the district? I just don’t know. Before 2018, I wouldn’t have guessed Crowley losing, but he did.

Can AOC lose in the primary? Sure. Because that’s where the action is - the GOP isn’t competitive in that district.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:30:46am

re: #138 Belafon

I don’t know much about the district. Do you see this going anywhere?

Potentially yeah. I like AOC but she benefited from a low turnout primary last time.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:33:36am

re: #138 Belafon

I don’t know much about the district. Do you see this going anywhere?

re: #139 lawhawk

I’ve got to believe that the GOP are intent on getting someone to defeat her by any means necessary. She won an unlikely primary win over Crowley who was an establishment Democrat who had represented the district for 20 years.

Does this person have the backing of enough people in the district? I just don’t know. Before 2018, I wouldn’t have guessed Crowley losing, but he did.

Can AOC lose in the primary? Sure. Because that’s where the action is - the GOP isn’t competitive in that district.

I like AOC, even when she supports Bernie (who I detest). I like her because she knows how to fight and stand up to the haters. I’ve considered donating to her. I live next to her district. Is this weird to help a Bernie supporter? Politics/bedfellows.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:34:11am

re: #126 lawhawk

[

Last time US forces were expelled from the Phillipines:

The U.S. flag is lowered on Corregidor after the Island’s capture by the Japanese on 6 May 1942.

Thanks, Trump, your bud Duterte has not let you down.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:35:39am

re: #141 I Would Prefer Not To

I like AOC, even when she supports Bernie (who I detest). I like her because she knows how to fight and stand up to the haters. I’ve considered donating to her. I live next to her district. Is this weird to help a Bernie supporter? Politics/bedfellows.

Support who feel you should and who you like. Their bedfellows are secondary unless truly vile.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:37:25am

re: #143 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Support who feel you should and who you like. Their bedfellows are secondary unless truly vile.

Good advice. Thanks.

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:38:23am

re: #127 BigPapa

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:40:20am

re: #100 jaunte

I don’t understand why Democrats aren’t holding hearings and gibbing up another round of impeachment. There’s no reason to take the foot off the pedal. Trump is still corrupt and he will continue to obstruct.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:42:34am

re: #146 Patricia Kayden

I don’t understand why Democrats aren’t holding hearings and gibbing up another round of impeachment. There’s no reason to take the foot off the pedal. Trump is still corrupt and he will continue to obstruct.

Nadler has asked the IG to investigate. That’s the start of the next round.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:45:37am

Triggered

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:46:21am

re: #148 Dave In Austin

Triggered

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Lol.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:47:35am

My dream that will not happen — but it would be lovely: Warren and Amy finish 1-2 (either order) in NH primary.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:47:45am

re: #147 Belafon

Good.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:48:08am

re: #149 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Look up up thread for the best of it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:53:26am

re: #147 Belafon

Nadler has asked the IG to investigate. That’s the start of the next round.

Yeah and now Trump is considering firing the IG.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:56:48am

re: #121 lawhawk

I’m all for the castle doctrine - it’s your home. But SYG laws extend that to any public space, and basically give people the right to murder and retcon an excuse that it was done in self defense. We saw that with Zimmerman and we see it elsewhere.

It’s bad law and policy. Public carry of firearms should be held to a much higher standard.

It’s pretty much the Wild West myth - “he drew a gun so I had to defend myself!”

Though it’s interesting how often those praising the myths overlook how towns started making themselves peaceful. By banning the carrying of guns in the town limits.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 11, 2020 • 8:59:30am

re: #126 lawhawk

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This is what happens when you show that you can’t be trusted as an ally or reasonable partner. (Or outright start treating an ally [Iraq] as a puppet with no say in matters.) The former allies close out the agreements and start looking elsewhere or inward in order to assemble a sufficient force or deterrent.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:00:20am

Someone like Stacey Abrahms absolutely has to be the VP nominee. Not that I have anything against Tim Kaine, but picking a vanilla VP was Clinton’s worst campaign mistake. Chasing the votes of Republicans, who detest her, was a fool’s errand. We outnumber them; if we energize Democrats to vote we will win.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:00:20am

New coronavirus will be named ‘Covid-19’: WHO

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:01:30am
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jeffreyw  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:05:27am

re: #124 sagehen

when our military does war games as a training exercise, blue team represents the US, red team represents The Enemy, green team represents Our Allies.

You could compile your birdfeeder pix into a graphic novel of the war of your choosing, either past or future-hypothetical.

You have run up to, and banged your head on, the basic flaw in your tasking suggestion: This boy is way too lazy for that kind of thing.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:08:05am

This is terrifying even if it is a Poe.

But, orange girth and dark lord? WTF?

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makeitstop  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:09:30am

re: #160 Colère Tueur de Lapin

This is terrifying even if it is a Poe.

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‘Glistening orange girth’ does have a certain ring to it.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:10:41am

re: #150 Hecuba’s daughter

My dream that will not happen — but it would be lovely: Warren and Amy finish 1-2 (either order) in NH primary.

I’ll do my part later today!

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BeachDem  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:10:52am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:13:29am

She is that brain dead.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:15:06am

re: #164 Joe Bacon 🌹

She is that brain dead.

I haven’t seen Berners being called Nazis. Just out there.

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BeachDem  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:17:47am

re: #165 Belafon

I haven’t seen Berners being called Nazis. Just out there.

NBC News’ Chuck Todd Under Fire for Quoting Article Comparing Sanders Supporters to Nazi ‘Brownshirts’

thewrap.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:19:16am

re: #165 Belafon

I haven’t seen Berners being called Nazis. Just out there.

Trumpsters yes, Nazis no. Unless people are “conflating” Trumpsters with Nazis (a reasonable epithet) and so by the transitive property of mathematics Berners would be Nazis.

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:20:08am

re: #166 BeachDem

NBC News’ Chuck Todd Under Fire for Quoting Article Comparing Sanders Supporters to Nazi ‘Brownshirts’

thewrap.com

OK. The source was a conservative site, that’s why I missed it.

Someone needs to explain the Krystal that she’s about to validate the association.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:20:13am

re: #164 Joe Bacon 🌹

The name Krystal came from her father, a physicist who wrote his dissertation on crystals.

And had nothing to do with the (un?)intended consequence of equating her name to foresight?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:20:26am

re: #166 BeachDem

NBC News’ Chuck Todd Under Fire for Quoting Article Comparing Sanders Supporters to Nazi ‘Brownshirts’

thewrap.com

He would have been fine and justified to just simply call them ‘assholes’.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:21:03am

I’m going to just point out that Biden has run twice for the WH. He’s failed twice.

He’s not good at the whole primary thing, and we’re watching this unfold once again.

I don’t think he’s going to be the nominee. I also don’t think Bernie will either.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:21:52am

re: #166 BeachDem

NBC News’ Chuck Todd Under Fire for Quoting Article Comparing Sanders Supporters to Nazi ‘Brownshirts’

thewrap.com

Meanwhile, it’s common “knowledge” among Trumpers that the Nazis were socialists and all socialists; Venezuelan, Cuban, North Korean, and Bernie; are exactly the same.

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mmmirele  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:23:01am

I managed to get into a tussle with the leader of “Hookers for Jesus,”one of the religious organizations that got a federal grant to “help” trafficked women.

She continues to respond but I won’t bore you with it.

I am SO not an expert on this, but I am pushing, because I’d bet money they’re proselytizing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:34:47am

re: #173 mmmirele

Does Jerry Falwell Jr. run that scam? Or is this Jimmy Swaggarts Pimping Enterprise?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:38:12am

And the Washington Post now says that the Just Us Crooks Department is reducing their sentencing recommendation for Stone after President Pee Pants said it was too extreme…

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:38:53am

re: #175 Joe Bacon 🌹

Trump is absolutely interfering in the administration of justice.

This too is an impeachable offense.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:41:31am

re: #176 lawhawk

Trump is absolutely interfering in the administration of justice.

This too is an impeachable offense.

Just waiting for Collins to BS again…

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:41:53am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:48:23am

re: #176 lawhawk

Trump is absolutely interfering in the administration of justice.

This too is an impeachable offense.

The GOP has given the Trump the green light to do whatever he wants.

Buckle up.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:48:51am
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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:49:29am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:49:58am

He also desired to attack news organizations, like CNN

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Mike Lamb  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:51:54am

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP has given the Trump the green light to do whatever he wants.

Buckle up.

Reporter: Senator Gardner, do you think it is appropriate for the President to publicly comment on or otherwise insert himself into the sentencing recommendations of the DOJ as it relates to one of President Trump’s long time associates?

Gardner: The question is whether the President has the right to review sentencing for criminal justice reform. And he clearly does.

Reporter: That’s actually not the question.

Gardner: Yes, it was. Of course it was.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:54:26am

re: #180 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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GOP: We need to give more control to local governments. They are closer to the situation, and can determine what their constituents need.

Dems: Ok, we will give them the authority to remove Confederate monuments.

GOP: That’s not fair. That’s not what we meant and you know it. It only applies to restricting trans people’s choice of restrooms and closing down reproductive health clinics.

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:55:01am

re: #183 Mike Lamb

They’ve abandoned ethics and are focused on power. It really comes across in their answers to questions about appropriateness.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:56:18am

Primary challenge. Apparently one of 11

“… In Caruso-Cabrera’s book, “You Know I’m Right: More Prosperity, Less Government,” Caruso-Cabrera unveiled her vision of limited government and explained why Ronald Reagan was her favorite president. (The forward to the book was written by Larry Kudlow, President Trump’s National Economic Council director.) She serves as a member of the board of directors for financial services firm Beneficient. …”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:57:56am

re: #175 Joe Bacon 🌹

And the Washington Post now says that the Just Us Crooks Department is reducing their sentencing recommendation for Stone after President Pee Pants said it was too extreme…

Why doesn’t Trump just pardon him?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:58:02am

Defeating Trump is an absolute necessity and should be our only priority between now and November. To paraphrase Churchill, though, defeating Trump will not be the end, or even the beginning of the end, but it might be the end of the beginning. Trump is not some charlatan tricking a mob of well-intentioned but ignorant rubes, he is the natural outcome and chosen representative of a mass movement, a significant fraction of the American populace, the Republican base.

Peace and justice will not be able to progress until this movement, this base, is eradicated and consigned to the dustbin of history.

No, I am not suggesting that they be rounded up and thrown in re-purposed immigrant cages or out-sourced to Putin as gulag-labor, exquisitely karmic though those options might be. I do think we need a broad-based social, cultural, and economic strategy to eliminate this cancer. It must be identified, mapped, and exposed for what it is, a movement founded on the conscious exploitation of evil impulses and pathological personalities. Government cannot do this, at least not if we want to avoid becoming the thing we fear. It can help though. Congress and the executive can, for example, examine the IRS status of religious quacks, pursue a policy of re-vitalizing organized labor, seek the repeal of Citizens United, pursue un-registered foreign agents, robustly prosecute corrupt local government and its enablers, and expose dark money networks.

There is much more, of course, but the main thing is to have conscious direction, a defined purpose, that millions can apply in their daily lives and activities.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:58:39am

re: #186 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Primary challenge. Apparently one of 11

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Um, is she actually a Democrat?

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 9:59:34am

re: #189 Mike Lamb

Um, is she actually a Democrat?

Only because a Republican will lose in the general election.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:00:00am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Pardons open door to Stone being forced to testify to his actions and those of Trump without any 5A right against self incrimination. It would force Stone to spill the beans.

That’s about the only reason I can figure. We’ve seen Trump pardon Arpaio even before a sentence was handed down, so we know he doesn’t care when the stakes aren’t high, but here it would put himself in jeopardy since Stone knows a lot more than most others in Trumpworld as to Trump’s specific knowledge and crimes conducted on Trump’s behalf.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:00:14am

re: #189 Mike Lamb

Um, is she actually a Democrat?

She’s running as one. You know, just like Bernie

//

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:01:23am
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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:02:34am
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Mike Lamb  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:02:35am

re: #192 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

She’s running as one. You know, just like Bernie

//

Bernie, at least, has policies that track with Democratic policy goals. She’s running as a Blue Dog in a very blue seat in NY, and her book foreword screams Republican lite? What the fuck is that?

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:04:10am

re: #195 Mike Lamb

Someone who has little chance at getting the primary win in that district.

Crowley was far to the left of Michelle Caruso-Cabrera and he lost to AOC.

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:05:25am

Well, someone is finally being held to account for genocide and war crimes, even if it is years after the genocide ended:

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jaunte  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:06:17am
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Dave In Austin  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:07:12am

Working for the block

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:10:55am

re: #195 Mike Lamb

Bernie, at least, has policies that track with Democratic policy goals. She’s running as a Blue Dog in a very blue seat in NY, and her book foreword screams Republican lite? What the fuck is that?

She’s assuming that low turnout primary will help elect her, especially among residents who might have supported Crowley but didn’t vote. Of course, the turnout will be much higher because it’s a presidential year and there is a hotly contested race for the Democratic nominee. But as a native Chicagoan, I remember the bleak year that Larouchies captured a couple positions in the Democratic primary because voters opposed to the establishment candidates were never informed by the media who the challengers were. (I didn’t vote for those positions because I didn’t know anything about these candidates and had learned years earlier not to vote for people as a protest unless you really knew who they were)

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retired cynic  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:13:17am

re: #188 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

… Trump is not some charlatan tricking a mob of well-intentioned but ignorant rubes, …

Although he is that, too. I know some of those ignorant rubes, and they believe what he tells them, and what they see on Fox, and hear from Rush. Etc. Makes me want to cry.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:13:34am

re: #2 jaunte

Make sure he wears his monogrammed flak jacket, and tell him his superior genes means he doesn’t need a mask.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:14:33am

re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter

She’s assuming that low turnout primary will help elect her, especially among residents who might have supported Crowley but didn’t vote. Of course, the turnout will be much higher because it’s a presidential year and there is a hotly contested race for the Democratic nominee. But as a native Chicagoan, I remember the bleak year that Larouchies captured a couple positions in the Democratic primary because voters opposed to the establishment candidates were never informed by the media who the challengers were. (I didn’t vote for those positions because I didn’t know anything about these candidates and had learned years earlier not to vote for people as a protest unless you really knew who they were)

I think AOC will survive a challenge or two. She’s a fighter in a liberal district.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:15:40am

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:15:51am

re: #182 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Oddly, the AP decided it was important to add “Satanist” to the article title, and not really expound on it in the article.
All while they seem to gloss over that he is a right-wing fanatic who desired to kill “anti-fascists”

Very odd that.

And by odd, you mean totally and glaringly obvious?

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:16:29am

re: #201 retired cynic

Although he is that, too. I know some of those ignorant rubes, and they believe what he tells them, and what they see on Fox, and hear from Rush. Etc. Makes me want to cry.

But they also share his racism and anti-immigrant philosophy. They are all people who would have supported Hitler. (For Trumpers who are Jewish, they would have had no problems supporting a Hitler who targeted other groups — e.g. Muslims, instead of Jews)

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Dread Pirate  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:17:57am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:18:12am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:18:12am

re: #189 Mike Lamb

Um, is she actually a Democrat?

don’t read like it…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:19:29am

Think I’m going to miss this one

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jeffreyw  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:19:48am

re: #191 lawhawk

Pardons open door to Stone being forced to testify to his actions and those of Trump without any 5A right against self incrimination. It would force Stone to spill the beans.

That’s about the only reason I can figure. We’ve seen Trump pardon Arpaio even before a sentence was handed down, so we know he doesn’t care when the stakes aren’t high, but here it would put himself in jeopardy since Stone knows a lot more than most others in Trumpworld as to Trump’s specific knowledge and crimes conducted on Trump’s behalf.

I’ve seen the claim that under those circumstances Stone would have to testify but I don’t see any mechanism to force him to talk. Threat of contempt? Who enforces that?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:22:46am
213
Dread Pirate  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:23:42am

Trump’s foreign policy tree is bearing the fruit that you would expect.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:27:40am

re: #213 Dread Pirate

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:27:56am

re: #188 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Along this line, I really like Tom Steyer’s suggestion of a “Commission on Race.”

Tom Steyer- Commission on Race

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lawhawk  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:30:08am

re: #214 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Media outlets will consider any armored vehicle a tank, especially if it has a turret.

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retired cynic  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:34:46am

re: #206 Hecuba’s daughter

But they also share his racism and anti-immigrant philosophy. They are all people who would have supported Hitler. (For Trumpers who are Jewish, they would have had no problems supporting a Hitler who targeted other groups — e.g. Muslims, instead of Jews)

Not sure I would go that far. I think they are wary of people they don’t know, and when they know them on an individual basis, it changes a piece of them. I have seen it happen. Slow chips away at the boulder, perhaps, but it does happen.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:36:22am

re: #216 lawhawk

Media outlets will consider any armored vehicle a tank, especially if it has a turret.

Those Armored Personnel Carriers barely had what could be called “cupolas”, not turrets.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:39:55am

re: #219 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Those Armored Personnel Carriers barely had what could be called “cupolas”, not turrets.

I had a lengthy thesis on what constitutes a tank over at Radley Balko’s old place that resulted in at least one marriage proposal…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:44:12am

(sigh)
One does not need to be a soothsayer to see where this leads

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Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:47:42am

re: #221 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

(sigh)
One does not need to be a soothsayer to see where this leads

To a white supremacist network that we already have at least one of?

223
plansbandc  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:54:46am

re: #201 retired cynic

Some of my “friends” on FB just jumped in to comment on a post about tRump cutting social security etc. saying how good it is that tRump is cutting “entitlements” because he’s really just getting rid of the massive fraud.

Mind boggling.

224
Belafon  Feb 11, 2020 • 10:59:29am

re: #223 plansbandc

Some of my “friends” on FB just jumped in to comment on a post about tRump cutting social security etc. saying how good it is that tRump is cutting “entitlements” because he’s really just getting rid of the massive fraud.

Mind boggling.

I’m curious what fraud that is that doesn’t involve Rick Scott.

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plansbandc  Feb 11, 2020 • 11:01:06am

re: #224 Belafon

All those illegal immigrants are stealing shit. And all those black people are stealing shit too. It’s madness.

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gocart mozart  Feb 11, 2020 • 11:01:44am
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Dave In Austin  Feb 11, 2020 • 11:13:03am

re: #216 lawhawk

Media outlets will consider any armored vehicle a tank, especially if it has a turret.

Tracks……

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 11, 2020 • 11:24:32am

re: #221 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

(sigh)
One does not need to be a soothsayer to see where this leads

[Embedded content]

So JC Watts who Larry Flynt exposed as having several mistresses while he called for Bill Clinton’s impeachment is serving up a black version of FAUX…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 11, 2020 • 11:58:27am

re: #219 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Those Armored Personnel Carriers barely had what could be called “cupolas”, not turrets.

still, these are armored fighting vehicles, not humanitarian aid…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 11, 2020 • 12:12:10pm

re: #212 Scottish Dragon

And recall that there was a pretty big stink, including the media chiming in, when Bush’s DOJ fired some people in a pretty political way.

Not a peep now.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 11, 2020 • 12:14:30pm

re: #220 Scottish Dragon

I had a lengthy thesis on what constitutes a tank over at Radley Balko’s old place that resulted in at least one marriage proposal…

Where did the Swedish Strv 103 fall in that discussion?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 11, 2020 • 12:16:46pm

re: #227 Dave In Austin

Tracks……

I play a game called Arma 3 on-line with a group of people and there is a running joke about people calling BTRs (Russian-built wheeled APC) BMPs (Russian-built tracked IFV).

Though when you’re an infantryman either one of those can ruin your day very quickly.


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