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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:06:36am

Bernie got over half the under 30 vote in NH. the kids really like him. vox.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:15:09am

jeebus

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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:15:17am

re: #1 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Historically, if you’re under 25, you’re less likely to vote than any other demographic group. Older folks are the most likely to vote. Sanders might capture more of that young vote, but if they’re not turning out in numbers, it doesn’t matter. He wont win.

We know that everyone else is splitting the moderate vote - and that a majority of Democrats are voting for someone other than Bernie. They haven’t coalesced around a single candidate, and in a straight up 1-1 fight, I think Bernie loses handily against whoever it is.

And then Bernie will do what he did in 2016 and screw over rank and file Democrats and throw a hissy fit.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:16:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:16:48am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:17:00am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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“How dare you not let me be a dictator!”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:17:37am

Shocked. Shocked I say.

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Interesting Times  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:19:27am

Yes please. Can the House please use *every* mechanism it has to deliver painful consequences that don’t require GOPer support?

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:19:41am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Strongman whines that there might be limits placed upon his rule.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:20:12am
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:21:33am

I’m behind on the previous thread so I hope this wasn’t already posted.

This is hilarious, and the comments are pretty awesome too:

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:22:12am

Jim Bakker, resurrected preacher, pseudoscientist, hawker of snake oil, and all around money grubbing shitbag, claims his colloidal silver solution cures everything. Just skimmed past a Facebook video today that said Bakker claimed his magic silver solution would cure the coronavirus. He already claims it cures venereal disease.

This is where all the circles meet in the middle; people dumb enough to believe him include the anti-vax community, how enough vitamin C cures everything, “Cures ‘They’ Don’t Want You To Know,” everything can be cleaned with white vinegar and baking soda, every word of the Bible is true, hurricanes are caused by gay marriage, random Caps users, and Trump voters.

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:22:38am

Note that the bill the Senate is set to vote upon does not say Trump cannot engage in hostilities with Iran without consulting Congress, it says he must get Congressional approval within 30 days.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:24:18am

re: #10 Dave In Austin

Lol. One of my favorite replies to the original tweet was: “OMG, we can tie his hands? That’s an option?”

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mmmirele  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:26:33am

In other news, the agreement between The University of North Carolina and the Sons of Confederate Veterans over yje dispisition of “Silent Sam” has been voided for lack of standing.

A judge has overturned a contentious settlement that the University of North Carolina system reached with the Sons of Confederate Veterans over the Confederate monument known as Silent Sam.

The November 2019 agreement required the UNC system to give Silent Sam to the Sons of Confederate Veterans, along with $2.5 million for its preservation and display. It was announced within minutes of a lawsuit filed by the group.

npr.org

For those of you into serious amounts of detail and crazy, attorney T. Greg Doucette was in the courtroom and gives a running recount of the hearing. Apparently the judge was up to his eyeballs in this and the result was unexpected. The whole thread is worth a read.

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BeachDem  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:28:19am

Re: Judy Shelton—

CBS—Judy Shelton is a fan of a policy abandoned in 1971 and considered a fringe view by mainstream economists

WaPo—Shelton is an opportunist and a quack

The Hill—Among President Trump’s more bizarre nominations for office has to be his nomination of Judy Shelton

The American Prospect—Trump’s Latest Crackpot

And then, the Times

NYT—Ms. Shelton has unconventional views

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:29:56am

re: #8 Interesting Times

Yes please. Can the House please use *every* mechanism it has to deliver painful consequences that don’t require GOPer support?

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I think it’s way past time the House defunds Trump’s fucking golf trips.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:31:44am

Winning

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:34:32am

re: #13 Targetpractice

As in 30 days after the fact, when everyone is cowed and says it was a brilliant move? FFS

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Sir John Barron  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:35:34am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

Aren’t you supposed to be presidenting today, not spending all this time on the Twitters?

/

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Sir John Barron  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:36:37am

re: #13 Targetpractice

Note that the bill the Senate is set to vote upon does not say Trump cannot engage in hostilities with Iran without consulting Congress, it says he must get Congressional approval within 30 days.

This is kind of like saying, You can’t murder me but if you do, you must notify me within 30 days after murdering me.

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VegasGolfer  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:37:33am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:38:11am
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:38:14am

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Shocked. Shocked I say.

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And he portrayed a Confederate! Shocked again!

The document does not say which side Drake fought for during the reenactments, but email addresses for Drake listed in public records include variations on the word “confederate.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:41:25am
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:42:18am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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He’s really gonna freak out now.

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Disloyal Archangel  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:43:32am
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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:43:38am
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Skip Intro  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:43:55am

re: #26 The Pie Overlord!

Why? He’ll just veto it.

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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:45:24am

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’re just reenacting a scene from Skyfall. /

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:45:29am

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s no NYC Pizza Rat video, or the Fat Squirrel eating an egg roll in a tree, but it ain’t bad

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:46:04am

re: #29 Skip Intro

Why? He’ll just veto it.

maybe because it’s the right thing to do?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:46:26am

re: #28 lawhawk

I’m so old I remember when, way back in 2016, according to the now impotus, the low unemployment numbers were fake and the rising stock market was a bubble.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:47:20am
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makeitstop  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:47:57am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Scout burps unprompted. He’ll just stand there looking at me and burp. It never fails to crack me up.

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Skip Intro  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:48:54am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

maybe because it’s the right thing to do?

This was the statement I responded to.

He’s really gonna freak out now.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:49:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:50:42am
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makeitstop  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:52:54am

re: #31 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

It’s no NYC Pizza Rat video, or the Fat Squirrel eating an egg roll in a tree, but it ain’t bad

Gotta give a shout to Salad Rat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:54:49am

O_o

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:54:49am

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Media: Why did you give him a pass on the criming while saying he’d “learned a lesson”?
Collins: I NEVER SAID THAT! YOU’RE LYING TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD!

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:56:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:57:14am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:59:13am

Happy 211th birthday, Abe Lincoln and Charles Darwin!

BOTH born on February 12, 1809.

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retired cynic  Feb 12, 2020 • 11:59:49am

re: #44 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Happy 211th birthday, Abe Lincoln and Charles Darwin!

BOTH born on February 12, 1809.

Best Days in History!

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:00:07pm

re: #19 PrairieQueen

As in 30 days after the fact, when everyone is cowed and says it was a brilliant move? FFS

re: #21 Sir John Barron

This is kind of like saying, You can’t murder me but if you do, you must notify me within 30 days after murdering me.

The bill says Trump has to remove any troops from military actions against Iran within 30 days unless he gets Congressional approval. Really, it’s just a further restriction on the War Powers Resolution, which would give Trump 60 days to tear ass before the 30 day retreat period kicks in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:00:07pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:03:25pm

re: #28 lawhawk

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Boss: We’re experiencing the greatest profitability in this company’s history! We’re making money hand over fist!

Workers: That’s awesome!

Boss: Unfortunately, we’re also experiencing major financial issues, so all the pay raises we promised have been canceled.

Workers: But you just said the company is profitable!

Boss: Yes I did, which is why that profit is going to our investors. Feel free to thank me for not firing your ass for pointing that out.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:04:27pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

Corporations are people too. Feelings.//

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:08:57pm

We are about exactly one week removed from Trumps acquittal and look what has already happened.

There are THIRTY FOUR weeks between now and election day.

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:09:21pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So let me see if I’ve got this straight: The 4 lawyers assigned to prosecute this case filed a sentencing recommendation with the court that was double what the “guidelines” say they should be, the DOJ only discovered this after Trump railed against it on Twitter, and they stepped in to “correct” the filing without noting at any time that the original filing had been in excess of DOJ “guidelines.”

Wouldn’t it have saved everybody’s time had Barr just let things play out, then made up some BS to justify a Trump pardon instead?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:10:09pm

What do you know.

Sorry I can’t do more, one meeting to another today… But read this.

apple.news

President Donald Trump has defanged Congress’ oversight authority. That became clear when the Senate acquitted the president of obstruction. But one conservative judge isn’t willing to let the executive branch steal power from his branch of government.

In a jaw-dropping opinion issued by the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago on January 23, Judge Frank Easterbrook—a longtime speaker for the conservative Federalist Society and someone whom the late Justice Antonin Scalia favored to replace him on the U.S. Supreme Court—rebuked Attorney General William Barr for declaring in a letter that the court’s decision in an immigration case was “incorrect” and thus dispensable. Barr’s letter was used as justification by the Board of Immigration Appeals (the federal agency that applies immigration laws) to ignore the court’s ruling not to deport a man who had applied for a visa to remain in the country.

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plansbandc  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:11:29pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

But then that wouldn’t be nearly the “fuck you I’m openly criming and you can’t do a thing about”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:11:33pm

re: #42 The Pie Overlord!

[BREAKING: Judge Amy Berman Jackson has *denied* a sealed motion by STONE for a new trial.]

Does it matter? He’s going to get pardoned anyway.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:12:39pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:13:17pm

No Jacket Gym again.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:13:41pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

Nobody was aware anything was out of bounds before it was brought to their attention by a tweet? Uh huh. Last I knew, any smalltown district court keeps better tabs on unpaid traffic tickets.

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:14:21pm

re: #53 plansbandc

But then that wouldn’t be nearly the “fuck you I’m openly criming and you can’t do a thing about”.

Nah, a pardon for bullshit reasons would have filled that quota. All Barr did here was call attention to the fact that he’s little more than a caporegime in this crime syndicate.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:23:01pm

re: #28 lawhawk

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i cant give you a raise. i paid myself first and there’s nothing left

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Charles Johnson  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:27:19pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:28:19pm

Upon further consideration, it’s possible that Barr took action on this in what he thought would be a face-saving measure. That it would somehow look better for Trump to pardon Stone because he disagreed with the man ever being put on trial than because of an “excessive” sentence.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:28:30pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

Boss: We’re experiencing the greatest profitability in this company’s history! We’re making money hand over fist!

Workers: That’s awesome!

Boss: Unfortunately, we’re also experiencing major financial issues, so all the pay raises we promised have been canceled.

Workers: But you just said the company is profitable!

Boss: Yes I did, which is why that profit is going to our investors me. Feel free to thank me for not firing your ass for pointing that out.

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:30:25pm

Of course, it’s also possible that Michael Cohen was right and Trump never had to give an explicit order because Barr understood that a tweet bitching about the sentencing was an implicit order to do something about it.

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plansbandc  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:31:01pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

This one.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:31:31pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

Upon further consideration, it’s possible that Barr took action on this in what he thought would be a face-saving measure. That it would somehow look better for Trump to pardon Stone because he disagreed with the man ever being put on trial than because of an “excessive” sentence.

there is no good or ‘better’ way to look at trump pardoning Stone
it reeks (well it will anyway)

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:31:47pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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I don’t think a day goes by that I don’t reflect upon all those fuckers who insisted that he’d “grow into the presidency” and that there was no need to worry because he’d surround himself with career politicians who’d act as a check on his dumber ideas. And if they failed, Congressional Republicans would be there to stop him from doing permanent damage.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:32:58pm

re: #3 lawhawk

Historically, if you’re under 25, you’re less likely to vote than any other demographic group. Older folks are the most likely to vote. Sanders might capture more of that young vote, but if they’re not turning out in numbers, it doesn’t matter. He wont win.

We know that everyone else is splitting the moderate vote - and that a majority of Democrats are voting for someone other than Bernie. They haven’t coalesced around a single candidate, and in a straight up 1-1 fight, I think Bernie loses handily against whoever it is.

And then Bernie will do what he did in 2016 and screw over rank and file Democrats and throw a hissy fit.

If Sanders is the nominee, old people will still vote, and more young people may vote as well. I’m just saying I don’t think if Sanders wins the nomination its the end of the world.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:33:32pm

The SS believes the future belongs to it.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:35:57pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:38:21pm

In retrospect, it’s obvious that all those who insisted that a Trump presidency was not something to worry about thought that it would be just another Dubya presidency. That Pence would exert some measure of control over Trump’s hiring decisions and stock the place with the same sort of political yes-men that Dubya had surrounded himself with. That Trump would defer to Pence whenever it came down to making decisions with political consequences as Dubya had done with Cheney, with Congressional Repubs working closely with Pence to be on the same page.

Because never before in world history has a man been put into power by a bunch of rubes who thought they could control him, only to discover that his newfound power means he doesn’t have to listen to them.//////

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jaunte  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:39:17pm
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jaunte  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:40:03pm

Barr testifies on March 31. How much damage will be done before then?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:41:28pm

re: #69 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Unhinged.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:41:30pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Trump already showed what he was years before he was elected. There was no reason to believe he’d be anything other than the lying, scheming, cheating, bullying, pussyhound he’d always been. And you know what? Those voters didn’t care. They didn’t care then and they don’t care now. As long as they believe he’s fucking whatever demographic or cause they dislike, they could could come out with zero and still cheer him on. And that is unforgivable. Like WWII Germany, they will accept no blame for enabling this.

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Targetpractice  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:41:52pm

re: #72 jaunte

Barr testifies on March 31. How much damage will be done before then?

I’ll believe it when I see it. I genuinely would not be surprised if he decides (translation: Trump decides) that he’s not going to appear and thumb his nose at any threats to hold him in contempt.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:42:18pm

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200209 edition ———————->

Pondzilla

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retired cynic  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:43:30pm

The United States Has a Deadbeat Leader, So We Won’t Be Paying Our Debts
The latest to get stiffed with the check are the Hmong, by Charlie Pierce

No level too low.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:44:48pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

In retrospect, it’s obvious that all those who insisted that a Trump presidency was not something to worry about thought that it would be just another Dubya presidency. That Pence would exert some measure of control over Trump’s hiring decisions and stock the place with the same sort of political yes-men that Dubya had surrounded himself with. That Trump would defer to Pence whenever it came down to making decisions with political consequences as Dubya had done with Cheney, with Congressional Repubs working closely with Pence to be on the same page.

Because never before in world history has a man been put into power by a bunch of rubes who thought they could control him, only to discover that his newfound power means he doesn’t have to listen to them.//////

‘most’ people who voted for trump didnt know him at all
i mean like new yorkers did

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:45:20pm

re: #74 PrairieQueen

Trump already showed what he was years before he was elected. There was no reason to believe he’d be anything other than the lying, scheming, cheating, bullying, pussyhound he’d always been. And you know what? Those voters didn’t care. They didn’t care then and they don’t care now. As long as they believe he’s fucking whatever demographic or cause they dislike, they could could come out with zero and still cheer him on. And that is unforgivable. Like WWII Germany, they will accept no blame for enabling this.

or this

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:45:52pm

re: #74 PrairieQueen

Trump already showed what he was years before he was elected. There was no reason to believe he’d be anything other than the lying, scheming, cheating, bullying, pussyhound he’d always been. And you know what? Those voters didn’t care. They didn’t care then and they don’t care now. As long as they believe he’s fucking whatever demographic or cause they dislike, they could could come out with zero and still cheer him on. And that is unforgivable. Like WWII Germany, they will accept no blame for enabling this.

We are seeing proof now that there were no ‘good Germans’ back in the day who had innocent reasons for supporting Nazis. There are no surprises with thugs like Trump and Hitler — it’s always clear what they are. So supporters of either can be fairly charged with supporting everything the respective regimes could reasonably be expected to do.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:47:53pm

re: #68 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The SS believes the future belongs to it.

Everything is fine, everything is—

//

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Citizen K  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:48:15pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

This reply to Bakari’s original tweet pretty much sums up the reason why ‘But I personally never did anything racist, so why should I care?” bullshit is so much bullshit:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:48:54pm

re: #77 retired cynic

The United States Has a Deadbeat Leader, So We Won’t Be Paying Our Debts
The latest to get stiffed with the check are the Hmong, by Charlie Pierce

No level too low.

The US has the fourth largest Hmong population in the world. And what’s more they’ve actually suffered persecution for being Christian but the usual charlatans won’t speak out for them. This is all so cruel and sick.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:51:34pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

I grew up in a community of German women, military brides, that lived through WWII. Their excuses for Hitler were chilling. One maintained, “No, Hitler was okay until he got that brain tumor…” Seriously. Everything he did, everything he said, all his bullshit and lies and chest thumping and causes, all the murder and invasions - all of that was okay until he supposedly got “that brain tumor.”

Yup.

That’s exactly how I see Trump supporters now. Exactly. People refuse to see him for what he always was, refuse to take responsibility for allowing it, promoting it, refusing to do anything to stop his abuse of power. They aren’t surprised. No, they’re along for the ride, taking each overstep as a victory lap.

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Citizen K  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:52:00pm

re: #83 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The US has the fourth largest Hmong population in the world. And what’s more they’ve actually suffered persecution for being Christian but the usual charlatans won’t speak out for them. This is all so cruel and sick.

The fact that they’re not White means they’re the wrong kind of Christians, therefore they’re not saved and not worth saving That’s pretty much what it seems to boil down to.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:53:52pm

re: #84 PrairieQueen

I grew up in a community of German women, military brides, that lived through WWII. Their excuses for Hitler were chilling. One maintained, “No, Hitler was okay until he got that brain tumor…” Seriously. Everything he did, everything he said, all his bullshit and lies and chest thumping and causes, all the murder and invasions - all of that was okay until he supposedly got “that brain tumor.”

Yup.

That’s exactly how I see Trump supporters now. Exactly. People refuse to see him for what he always was, refuse to take responsibility for allowing it, promoting it, refusing to do anything to stop his abuse of power. They aren’t surprised. No, they’re along for the ride, taking each overstep as a victory lap.

Reminds me of what even Candace Owens recently said about Nazism that it was making Germany great again until the invasion of Poland. Nazism was an evil ideology from the start so was Leninism.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:56:44pm

re: #54 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Does it matter? He’s going to get pardoned anyway.

Yes, it matters if you want the Judicial branch to act like it’s indpendent rather than just giving up.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:56:55pm

re: #85 Citizen K

The fact that they’re not White means they’re the wrong kind of Christians, therefore they’re not saved and not worth saving That’s pretty much what it seems to boil down to.

Yep. Makes me sick to my stomach.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:57:50pm

re: #86 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah, until that one moment in time they can’t get on board with, and even then they’ll accept it as “ya know, you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs,” feign some semblance of concern for five fuckin’ minutes, but still allow that awfulness to proceed because the bigger picture, eye on the prize, or some such shit.

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retired cynic  Feb 12, 2020 • 12:59:40pm

More Charlie Pierce: Marsha Blackburn Is a Steadfast Defender of Foreign Interference in American Elections
The Tennessee senator did more than just block some election-security bills on Tuesday.

Not only did she block more than one election security bill, saying that Democrats just want fodder for fundraising efforts, she filed a bill “directing the government accountability office to look into the debacle in Iowa.” Wow, what a tool.

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makeitstop  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:00:10pm

re: #75 Targetpractice

I’ll believe it when I see it. I genuinely would not be surprised if he decides (translation: Trump decides) that he’s not going to appear and thumb his nose at any threats to hold him in contempt.

Then they should use the power of the purse.

Salaries, cut off. Lights, water, office supplies, internet - cut off.

Hell, they should do that now. Trump wants a dictatorship, let him fucking pay for it.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:01:03pm

re: #68 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The SS believes the future belongs to it.

Guess, what? Just following orders won’t be a defense.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:02:15pm

re: #91 makeitstop

Be sure to take away their health care coverage too. Being thorough and all…

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makeitstop  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:03:06pm

re: #93 PrairieQueen

Be sure to take away their health care coverage too. Being thorough and all…

I approve this message.

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retired cynic  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:03:10pm

Charlie Pierce on Never Trumpers: The Never Trumpers are attempting to get involved in the vital work of slaying the monster they all spent 40 years creating.

What Kristol is doing here is merely a less crude form of what the president* told his audience to do the other night. I don’t want that Republican determining the Democratic nominee any more than I want Kristol doing so. If the latter wants to hustle up independents in November to support the Democratic nominee—WHOEVER THAT IS—he’s more than welcome, even though, as far as I’m concerned, Bill Kristol hasn’t cleaned enough bedpans at Walter Reed to atone for his activities in the Aughts. Nevertheless, any ally in the run-up to this election was worth having. But now the election’s here, and I don’t want this guy anywhere close to picking the nominee of a party he spent his entire career denigrating and ridiculing. That’s just crazy.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:03:14pm

re: #89 PrairieQueen

Yeah, until that one moment in time they can’t get on board with, and even then they’ll accept it as “ya know, you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs,” feign some semblance of concern for five fuckin’ minutes, but still allow that awfulness to proceed because the bigger picture, eye on the prize, or some such shit.

Honestly, the only real problem the US hard right has ever had with Hitler and the Nazis is that they lost in WWII. Winning isn’t everything to these power-mad freaks, it is the only thing.

And Biden wants to work with these people. Fortunately, it appears that may no longer be relevant very soon.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:06:00pm

re: #89 PrairieQueen

Yeah, until that one moment in time they can’t get on board with, and even then they’ll accept it as “ya know, you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, “feign some semblance of concern for five fuckin’ minutes, but still allow that awfulness to proceed because the bigger picture, eye on the prize, or some such shit.

I swear. I think the only reason why some of them even condemn the Nazis is because lol national socialism libtard. Rise and Fall of the Third Reich was terrifying to read. It’s so distressing how many of our fellow citizens seem to be ok with autocracy if it suits their ends.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:07:36pm

re: #97 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I swear. I think the only reason why some of them even condemn the Nazis is because lol national socialism libtard. Rise and Fall of the Third Reich was terrifying to read. It’s so distressing how many of our fellow citizens seem to be ok with autocracy if it suits their ends.

If Hitler hadn’t declared war on us after Pearl Harbor, I’m not sure we would have done anything in Europe.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:08:33pm

re: #11 Flying Squirrel Girl

That is funny!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:09:49pm

re: #78 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

‘most’ people who voted for trump didnt know him at all
i mean like new yorkers did

They thought Trump was the character he created on “The Apprentice”, a brilliant businessman.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:10:01pm

re: #98 Belafon

If Hitler hadn’t declared war on us after Pearl Harbor, I’m not sure we would have done anything in Europe.

That was one of Hitler’s severest blunders.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:10:27pm

re: #82 Citizen K

This reply to Bakari’s original tweet pretty much sums up the reason why ‘But I personally never did anything racist, so why should I care?” bullshit is so much bullshit:

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Once you know (as if you could claim ignorance at all before), because (finally) it’s pointed out to you, and you still do nothing to change it, then yes, you are one.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:11:04pm

re: #97 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

If people think talking to concentration camp survivors is a wakeup call, try talking to the Germans that looked the other way throughout the war.

I’m not slighting those that survived or died at the hands of the Reich, but I’m pointing out the people that make excuses for what happened - all those “average” people - are scary as hell. And right now those same kinds of people are your crazy uncle at Christmas dinner, or your neighbor, your elderly dad glued to Fox News, or that nice lady at church.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:11:23pm

re: #98 Belafon

If Hitler hadn’t declared war on us after Pearl Harbor, I’m not sure we would have done anything in Europe.

I’m inclined to think you are right which really makes the way a lot of our fellow Americans mock the European powers who suffered most in that war being disinclined to hard power all the more obnoxious.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:11:53pm

re: #101 EPR-radar

That was one of Hitler’s severest blunders.

Easily.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:12:01pm

re: #100 NO SMOCKING GUN!

They thought Trump was the character he created on “The Apprentice”, a brilliant businessman.

A cynic would say a country whose voters are too stupid to distinguish between a good business leader and a clown LARPing (live-action role-playing) as a great business genius on TV deserves what it gets.

But voting for people because of their supposed business genius is already a foundation of stupidity.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:12:09pm

re: #86 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Reminds me of what even Candace Owens recently said about Nazism that it was making Germany great again until the invasion of Poland. Nazism was an evil ideology from the start so was Leninism.

Hitler laid it all out in “Mein Kampf” long before he came to power.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:12:20pm

re: #75 Targetpractice

I’ll believe it when I see it. I genuinely would not be surprised if he decides (translation: Trump decides) that he’s not going to appear and thumb his nose at any threats to hold him in contempt.

Yep. He already ignored a subpoena. He gives no shits.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:12:38pm

re: #91 makeitstop

Then they should use the power of the purse.

Salaries, cut off. Lights, water, office supplies, internet - cut off.

Hell, they should do that now. Trump wants a dictatorship, let him fucking pay for it.

I approve this thought, but I doubt that it’s possible — budgets already in place and all that.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:15:50pm

re: #106 EPR-radar

A cynic would say a country whose voters are too stupid to distinguish between a good business leader and a clown LARPing (live-action role-playing) as a great business genius on TV deserves what it gets.

But voting for people because of their supposed business genius is already a foundation of stupidity.

and i would add that but for the electoral college ‘the country’ did make that distinction. by about 3m votes.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:16:02pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ha! Otis does the same thing - not every time he eats, but pretty often. We think he just eats too fast some time. He cries and whines and sounds genuinely uncomfortable, but a good burping and he is happy again. (Sometimes he does burp without our help.)
Also that dog in the tweet is, in my opinion, a pretty sweetie.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:16:31pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:16:48pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep. He already ignored a subpoena. He gives no shits.

we’ve gone from
“the exec doesnt have to give you anything in an impeachment investigation”

to

“the exec doesnt have to give you anything, ever”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:16:53pm

re: #103 PrairieQueen

If people think talking to concentration camp survivors is a wakeup call, try talking to the Germans that looked the other way throughout the war.

I’m not slighting those that survived or died at the hands of the Reich, but I’m pointing out the people that make excuses for what happened - all those “average” people - are scary as hell. And right now those same kinds of people are your crazy uncle at Christmas dinner, or your neighbor, your elderly dad glued to Fox News, or that nice lady at church.

You ain’t kidding. My youngest brother has quite a few friends with enthusiastic Trumper parents. They’re not having economic anxiety here. My CD is Democratic now but my part isn’t and my state delegate is notorious as a Steve King bigot reactionary. I’ve worked on two campaigns to beat him. No luck.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:17:04pm

re: #103 PrairieQueen

If people think talking to concentration camp survivors is a wakeup call, try talking to the Germans that looked the other way throughout the war.

I’m not slighting those that survived or died at the hands of the Reich, but I’m pointing out the people that make excuses for what happened - all those “average” people - are scary as hell. And right now those same kinds of people are your crazy uncle at Christmas dinner, or your neighbor, your elderly dad glued to Fox News, or that nice lady at church.

What’s difficult to realize is that the Nazi regime was not the Mordor of The Lord of the Rings, with literal orcs running all over the country under the baleful Eye of Sauron.

Yes, it was as evil a regime as ever seen in history, but many people were able to stay out of trouble with the party bosses while more or less tacitly approving of the disappearance of various ‘undesirables’. That attitude is alive and well in the US Republican party.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:19:15pm

re: #107 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Hitler laid it all out in “Mein Kampf” long before he came to power.

Yep. He didn’t get carried away. He wanted a German Empire where all non Germans would be murdered or enslaved. And Mein Kempf was a best seller. Just like Trump has been pretty clear in his autocratic belief system.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:19:23pm

re: #113 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

we’ve gone from
“the exec doesnt have to give you anything in an impeachment investigation”

to

“the exec doesnt have to give you anything, ever”

Exactly. The upper levels of the U.S. Government now have only one purpose: To serve Donald Trumps every whim without question or hesitation.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:20:46pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

Funny, the lie for so long was we were bringing democracy to Iraq. We’ve thrown it away here to someone every bit as corrupt and evil as Saddam, in 4k HD.

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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:25:06pm

In other news, Wes Anderson dropped a trailer for his new film.

If you like his stuff, you’ll like this too (and it’s star studded with stars on top of stars).

THE FRENCH DISPATCH | Official Trailer

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:26:40pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

Definitely well worth the two minutes.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:29:22pm

re: #112 The Pie Overlord!

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Kurt Eichenwald made much the sameness argument yesterday. Basically get off your a senior and do something now or a lot of us are going to be jailed.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:30:22pm

re: #119 lawhawk

Never much cared for him or the Coen Brothers. I found Hotel Budapest nigh unwatchable.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:34:02pm

I am torn on this one. To repair all the damage that the GOP has done to America, it may be essential to basically castrate those fuckers, by weaponizing government to investigate & jail as many as can be rounded up before they hop on private planes to Russia.

Do we do this? Will it even be possible?

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:36:52pm

re: #123 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

I am torn on this one. To repair all the damage that the GOP has done to America, it may be essential to basically castrate those fuckers, by weaponizing government to investigate & jail as many as can be rounded up before they hop on private planes to Russia.

Do we do this? Will it even be possible?

There is nothing you have suggested that breaks a law. The AG can investigate what Trump has done.

What he’s saying is that Democrats could just ignore their president doing a much better job of getting fabricated evidence from another country against Republicans.

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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:36:58pm

re: #122 Scottish Dragon

I get that. Everyone’s got different tastes. I think he’s got a unique voice and take - and that he manages to put together these kinds of ensemble casts is pretty impressive on its own. The stories are interesting and don’t fall into the blockbuster/sequel/remake mold either.

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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:38:55pm

re: #123 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Disagree with him on this one point:

The GOP will never let a Democrat use the powers that Trump is now asserting with abandon. They will seek to impeach, remove, and otherwise lie to get that Democrat out of power. They will hold hearings, hold up nominations, and shut govt down to do so.

They are all or nothing - and power is the ultimate and only goal to inflict their worldview on everyone else (redistributing wealth to rich and the burdens to everyone else).

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:39:16pm

Bernoids are worse than Trumporrhoids at attacking Democratic candidates.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:39:39pm

re: #125 lawhawk

I get that. Everyone’s got different tastes. I think he’s got a unique voice and take - and that he manages to put together these kinds of ensemble casts is pretty impressive on its own. The stories are interesting and don’t fall into the blockbuster/sequel/remake mold either.

My middle son is a big fan.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:40:33pm

another template endorsement

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:41:04pm

re: #127 The Pie Overlord!

Bernoids are worse than Trumporrhoids at attacking Democratic candidates.

“If you think guns should be restricted, you should look at the money Sanders took from the NRA and how he voted on gun bills.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:41:29pm

re: #127 The Pie Overlord!

Bernoids are worse than Trumporrhoids at attacking Democratic candidates.

Yeah let’s listen to Bernie on immigration. The guy who went on fucking Lou Dobbs. The Bernie Bros have no fucking right to go after anyone on this issue.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:41:39pm

re: #125 lawhawk

I get that. Everyone’s got different tastes. I think he’s got a unique voice and take - and that he manages to put together these kinds of ensemble casts is pretty impressive on its own. The stories are interesting and don’t fall into the blockbuster/sequel/remake mold either.

When I mention I’m not particularly a fan of the Coen Brothers (I did like True Grit) people react like I just shot their dog or something.

Watched Ballad of Buster Scruggs this week and the only bit I really enjoyed was The Mortal Remains. Good creepy Twilight Zone story.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:41:53pm

re: #123 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

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I am torn on this one. To repair all the damage that the GOP has done to America, it may be essential to basically castrate those fuckers, by weaponizing government to investigate & jail as many as can be rounded up before they hop on private planes to Russia.

Do we do this? Will it even be possible?

The main problem as I see it is that it only takes 30-40% of the electorate remaining consistently insane/evil/bigoted/willfully stupid to make a civil war inevitable if they persist with this nonsense long enough.

Counting conservatively, the GOP is already at 20+ years of that shit, and Trump is just the latest abominable aberration to show up as a result.

Unfortunately, I haven’t the foggiest idea how to tackle the real problem of the electorate. A maximum D effort in 2020 may rid us of Trump, and might even take back the senate, but we’d still have tens of millions of fucking deplorables to deal with.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:42:47pm

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

another template endorsement

Control V President.

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jeffreyw  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:43:30pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:43:46pm

re: #132 Scottish Dragon

When I mention I’m not particularly a fan of the Coen Brothers (I did like True Grit) people react like I just shot their dog or something.

Watched Ballad of Buster Scruggs this week and the only bit I really enjoyed was The Mortal Remains. Good creepy Twilight Zone story.

Eh. We all have different tastes. I enjoy their films but I’ve never really cared much for the Marvel movies. I have friends who are big fans and I feel like a dope when they’re talking about it because I’ve only seen a few of the comic book movies.

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piratedan  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:45:16pm

re: #123 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

to be honest, this kind of treason, for the sake of maintaining personal power usually results in those that have continued to enforce it against the majority ending badly. Shame, compassion, logic, morality appear to have no effect on these people. Once deposed, I’m of the opinion that I would just as soon not use my tax dollars to continue to feed, house and clothe them. The question remains do we dispose of them with the same casual cruelty that they’ve shown to us, our ideals and our rights. I don’t care for the type of person that they are turning me into to even consider this but when they’ve illustrated that rules and laws are only for those that choose to abide by them, then all bets are kind of off imho. Stick ‘em on an ice flow and fly away.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:45:19pm

re: #126 lawhawk

Every incident large or small would become the equivalent of Hillary’s emails, and any court appointments would be tied up forever.

That is, if they’re the majority party. I would like to see the party’s extinction as we know it today, to be mocked in history as being as on par with Salem-era witch burners.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:46:31pm

re: #131 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah let’s listen to Bernie on immigration. The guy who went on fucking Lou Dobbs. The Bernie Bros have no fucking right to go after anyone on this issue.

That’s even better.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:46:36pm

re: #131 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah let’s listen to Bernie on immigration. The guy who went on fucking Lou Dobbs. The Bernie Bros have no fucking right to go after anyone on this issue.

Amy was a state AG. So putting juvenile delinquents in detention was like part of her job.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:47:41pm

Number of non-white candidates Trump has endorsed today? 1 (Wesley Hunt)

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lawhawk  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:48:05pm

re: #132 Scottish Dragon

The Mrs finds their stuff hit and miss.

I love their quirky sensibility/humor. Raising Arizona was my introduction, but found Hudsucker Proxy to be a classic and timeless critique of the business world.

Hail Caesar was interesting for their take on Hollywood, and No Country For Old Men was a modern Western/horror. And then there’s Fargo, which I find absolutely fascinating in every way.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:48:51pm

re: #139 Belafon

That’s even better.

It’s why the way the Sanders surrogates went after Beto O’Rourke infuriated me so much. O’Rourke and Congressman Castro were the best on that issue. There are a lot of immigrants in my life including my own extended family. Sanders has no credibility on the immigration issue at all.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:48:52pm

O Brother where are thou? is still a classic in my book.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:49:09pm

re: #115 EPR-radar

What’s difficult to realize is that the Nazi regime was not the Mordor of The Lord of the Rings, with literal orcs running all over the country under the baleful Eye of Sauron.

Yes, it was as evil a regime as ever seen in history, but many people were able to stay out of trouble with the party bosses while more or less tacitly approving of the disappearance of various ‘undesirables’. That attitude is alive and well in the US Republican party.

Yeah, but we have to pretend it was fucking Mordor Where The Shadows Lie because if Nazi Germany was just a spectrum of shitty human being ranging from malice to indifference, then it would be comparable to, if still worse than in raw numbers, to the crimes of, say, the Allies in their colonial holdings.

And we’re not fucking do that, okay? Absolutely no reason to dig into who invented concentration camps, how distributed antisemitism was distributed worldwide, where the Nazis cribbed torchlight marches from, or how many people just sort of imported watered down Nazi rhetoric once they thought they could get away with it because Communists Bad.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:49:24pm

re: #140 The Pie Overlord!

Amy was a state AG. So putting juvenile delinquents in detention was like part of her job.

She was a district attorney. Same shit they went after Harris for.

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:50:36pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

I don’t think a day goes by that I don’t reflect upon all those fuckers who insisted that he’d “grow into the presidency” and that there was no need to worry because he’d surround himself with career politicians who’d act as a check on his dumber ideas. And if they failed, Congressional Republicans would be there to stop him from doing permanent damage.

Do you hate them somewhat more or somewhat less than the “I’m voting Jill/writing in Bernie/staying home because Hillary isn’t inspiring enough” fuckers?

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:51:02pm

re: #133 EPR-radar

Unfortunately, I haven’t the foggiest idea how to tackle the real problem of the electorate. A maximum D effort in 2020 may rid us of Trump, and might even take back the senate, but we’d still have tens of millions of fucking deplorables to deal with.

Main problem is Fox News & Hate Radio, pouring poison into the ears of millions of Americans. Without the State Propaganda Network, millions of Americans would no longer live in a delusional alternate-reality bubble.

Remove that, and the cranks will be shoved off to the fringes, where they belong, limited to shitty little websites devoid of advertising, supported only by an ever-diminishing stream Wingnut Welfare, and derided by trusted media sources.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:52:39pm

re: #148 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

What about a vaccination, spay and neuter program?//

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:52:50pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:53:01pm

re: #145 The Ghost of a Flea

Oh wait that should read:

…import Nazi rhetoric and the occasional Nazi…

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:53:53pm

one of my favorite movies is The Natural
seen it lots of times

i had it on today while i was working

there’s a whole sequence where they flash a newspaper to tell a bit of the story

i never noticed this before - always kept my eye on the headlines
i dont know how common it is that they did this in other movies:

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retired cynic  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:55:30pm

re: #106 EPR-radar

A cynic would say a country whose voters are too stupid to distinguish between a good business leader and a clown LARPing (live-action role-playing) as a great business genius on TV deserves what it gets.

But voting for people because of their supposed business genius is already a foundation of stupidity.

I retired. Or did I?

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:56:22pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

O Brother where are thou? is still a classic in my book.

Mumford and Sons say that O Brother Where Art Thou? is the reason they paly the kind of music they do. They said prior to that movie, they’d never heard the kind of music played in the movie.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:56:29pm

re: #150 sagehen

Stacey Abrams was on Seth Meyers last night:

part 1:

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Stacey is right. Republicans like Trump; they aren’t going to vote against him, and its futile to even try.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:56:49pm

re: #150 sagehen

FWIW, I love her.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:57:33pm

re: #154 Belafon

Mumford and Sons say that O Brother Where Art Thou? is the reason they paly the kind of music they do. They said prior to that movie, they’d never heard the kind of music played in the movie.

Lot of good bands came out because of that soundtrack. And for that, I love that movie. It’s a great movie too.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 12, 2020 • 1:59:05pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:00:01pm

re: #140 The Pie Overlord!

Amy was a state AG. So putting juvenile delinquents in detention was like part of her job.

sanders has been in congress since what, 1991?

so what’s his job and how well has he done it? //

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:00:11pm

re: #154 Belafon

Mumford and Sons say that O Brother Where Art Thou? is the reason they paly the kind of music they do. They said prior to that movie, they’d never heard the kind of music played in the movie.

I loved folk music and bluegrass back in the day. The “Soggy Bottom Boys” cover of “Constant Sorrow” is way way better than the dreary Joan Baez version.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:00:22pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:01:20pm

re: #159 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

sanders has been in congress since what, 1991?

so what’s his job and how well has he done it? //

He’s bragged about being tough on crime in the past. I don’t hate him for that but I sure as hell do hate the double standards he and his supporters employ on others.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:01:21pm

re: #123 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

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I am torn on this one. To repair all the damage that the GOP has done to America, it may be essential to basically castrate those fuckers, by weaponizing government to investigate & jail as many as can be rounded up before they hop on private planes to Russia.

Do we do this? Will it even be possible?

Exigent circumstances require it.
Although I do not think anything improper would have to be done - aggressively investigating all the criming, aggressively enforcing the law, and pushing for sentences at the top end of guidelines, and NO FUCKING PARDONS would be sufficient.
I agree, arrest as many of them as quickly as legally possible, but I think being tried (or at least charged) in absentia would help convince the rest of the world that we are genuinely trying to clean up our mess.
I don’t think we could do this without having all three branches, so please let us have a long-coattails nominee.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:01:40pm

re: #148 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Main problem is Fox News & Hate Radio, pouring poison into the ears of millions of Americans. Without the State Propaganda Network, millions of Americans would no longer live in a delusional alternate-reality bubble.

Remove that, and the cranks will be shoved off to the fringes, where they belong, limited to shitty little websites devoid of advertising, supported only by an ever-diminishing stream Wingnut Welfare, and derided by trusted media sources.

I agree that Fox News and Hate radio have to go. But how to do that in a sharply polarized country where Republicans are acting completely in bad faith at all times and on every issue?

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Dread Pirate  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:02:27pm
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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:04:45pm

re: #163 Jebediah, RBG

Look how much effort and money has been spent historically on convicting crime family members. Look at the burden of proof necessary for a conviction. But it’s been accomplished, and successfully. Now just put GOP (or corrupt member of any party) after their name, and proceed as normal. NBD.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:04:58pm

re: #164 EPR-radar

I agree that Fox News and Hate radio have to go. But how to do that in a sharply polarized country where Republicans are acting completely in bad faith at all times and on every issue?

Republicans are going to have to lose a lot of elections. Fox reinforces the view that they deserve the power they have. When they stop getting it long enough, something will have to break.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:05:37pm

re: #163 Jebediah, RBG

Exigent circumstances require it.
Although I do not think anything improper would have to be done - aggressively investigating all the criming, aggressively enforcing the law, and pushing for sentences at the top end of guidelines, and NO FUCKING PARDONS would be sufficient.
I agree, arrest as many of them as quickly as legally possible, but I think being tried (or at least charged) in absentia would help convince the rest of the world that we are genuinely trying to clean up our mess.
I don’t think we could do this without having all three branches, so please let us have a long-coattails nominee.

Enough other Republicans are complicit in Trumpco crimes and the like that there would be little observable difference between following the trail of crime wherever it leads, and a legal decapitation of the Republican party.

The US Powers that Be would almost certainly not permit anything like that.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:06:09pm

re: #167 Belafon

And a steady, ultra-feminizing, soy-based diet. Add that. //

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:06:32pm

re: #155 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Stacey is right. Republicans like Trump; they aren’t going to vote against him, and its futile to even try.

the easiest markets to reach:

- the untapped market of unregistered voters (my guess is it skews dem)
- the undertapped market of registered dems who dont vote

it is far easier to register 10 new voters or get 10 dems to the polls than it is to change the mind of one Republican

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:06:33pm

re: #167 Belafon

Republicans are going to have to lose a lot of elections. Fox reinforces the view that they deserve the power they have. When they stop getting it long enough, something will have to break.

The California model. The only Republicans in office that are mostly harmless are the ones in an impotent minority.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:06:36pm

re: #167 Belafon

Republicans are going to have to lose a lot of elections. Fox reinforces the view that they deserve the power they have. When they stop getting it long enough, something will have to break.

Fox is going to be interesting when Murdoch eventually passes away. His sons apparently have different philosophies. Not sure though. Haven’t read too much about it.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:07:57pm

re: #170 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

…it is far easier to register 10 new voters or get 10 dems to the polls than it is to change the mind of one Republican

Especially since Republicans don’t have minds.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:09:47pm

re: #127 The Pie Overlord!

Bernoids are worse than Trumporrhoids at attacking Democratic candidates.

“you should check out how @AmyKlobuchar sent over ten thousand kids to…..”

kids?
they were just ‘kids’?
nothing else distinguished them? no other reason?
totally unjustified? 10,000 times?
wow

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:13:11pm

re: #145 The Ghost of a Flea

And we’re not fucking do that, okay? Absolutely no reason to dig into who ….

It makes me frustrated and angry that we insist on teaching kids an insanely “rose-colored glasses” version of our history. If the USA is so god damn all-fired perfect and awesome, what’s the harm in honest history? It is a screaming indication of moral cowardice on those responsible; I suppose I can’t blame those who trusted and believed what they were taught.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:15:09pm

re: #152 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

one of my favorite movies is The Natural
seen it lots of times

i had it on today while i was working

there’s a whole sequence where they flash a newspaper to tell a bit of the story

i never noticed this before - always kept my eye on the headlines
i dont know how common it is that they did this in other movies:

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i guess it was how they did the movie because “reserve grand champion chestnut gelding Lord Britian” was not in the movie as a ball player

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Amory Blaine  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:15:28pm

This leftist will advocate for vicious reprisals against the right wing, domestic enemies of America. Assuming there’s victory.

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:18:59pm

re: #167 Belafon

Republicans are going to have to lose a lot of elections. Fox reinforces the view that they deserve the power they have. When they stop getting it long enough, something will have to break.

The way we “fixed” Germany was to reduce it to rubble. Then occupy it for as long as it took until they rebuilt it better.

That method seemed initially to be working in the American South; until Reconstruction got cut short.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:19:22pm

re: #147 sagehen

Do you hate them somewhat more or somewhat less than the “I’m voting Jill/writing in Bernie/staying home because Hillary isn’t inspiring enough” fuckers?

Speaking for myself, I think my hottest rage is reserved for the “you have to earn MY vote” smug, smarmy assholes who refused to see the clear choice in front of them - prevent trmp, or allow trmp. I know that at the time, we hadn’t yet seen all of what trmp would do, but 45 seconds of googling his history would have revealed a lot of his dangerous flaws. Not to mention that Hilary was so clearly, so staggeringly the better, more qualified candidate by any possible metric (except obesity - I will admit trmp has her by an enormous margin there.)

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jaunte  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:19:43pm

re: #176 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Tom Hanks: “There’s no gelding in baseball!”

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:19:58pm

Stage 4 fat fuck Rush can’t stop being the dick he was born to be:

“And they’re saying, ‘OK, how’s this going to look, 37-year-old gay guy kissing his husband on stage next to Mr. Man Donald Trump? What’s going to happen there?’”

“And they got to be looking at that, and they’ve got to be saying, that despite all the great progress and despite all the great wokeness, and despite all the great ground that’s been covered, America’s still not ready to elect a gay guy kissing his husband on the debate stage president,’ he added. “They have to be saying this, don’t they?!”

Mr. Man Donald Trump, the married guy that pays for sex twice: Once to have it, once to shut up the person he had it with. Actually, he pays three times for, if you consider all the nice things current wife needs when he embarrasses her for cheating.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:22:23pm

Haha, he’ll be dead soon. What a great day that will be.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:23:11pm

re: #181 PrairieQueen

Stage 4 fat fuck Rush can’t stop being the dick he was born to be:

Mr. Man Donald Trump, the married guy that pays for sex twice: Once to have it, once to shut up the person he had it with. Actually, he pays three times for, if you consider all the nice things current wife needs when he embarrasses her for cheating.

If Trump’s your ideal of masculinity, you just might be a moron.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:23:52pm

re: #182 Freedom Turnip

Haha, he’ll be dead soon. What a great day that will be.

It’s morbid to make a rank-ordered list of obituaries one wants to read before dying. But Trump and Rush are 1 and 2 respectively on that list for me.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:25:22pm

re: #178 sagehen

The way we “fixed” Germany was to reduce it to rubble. Then occupy it for as long as it took until they rebuilt it better.

That method seemed initially to be working in the American South; until Reconstruction got cut short.

Mine’s going to require the same commitment from our side, but will involve less burning (hopefully).

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:25:45pm

re: #183 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

If Trump’s your ideal of masculinity, you just might be a moron.

Buttigieg on a debate stage vs. Trump will look like a normal human being. Meanwhile, Trump will still look like the Orange Thing that Crawled out of Satan’s Anus to End Life as We Know it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:26:10pm

re: #179 Jebediah, RBG

Speaking for myself, I think my hottest rage is reserved for the “you have to earn MY vote” smug, smarmy assholes who refused to see the clear choice in front of them - prevent trmp, or allow trmp. I know that at the time, we hadn’t yet seen all of what trmp would do, but 45 seconds of googling his history would have revealed a lot of his dangerous flaws. Not to mention that Hilary was so clearly, so staggeringly the better, more qualified candidate by any possible metric (except obesity - I will admit trmp has her by an enormous margin there.)

It’s the arrogance for me to tell people who have been working in the Democratic party and progressive causes in general that they are just sell outs. I’m not a boomer. I’m not even Gen X but I’ve worked on Democratic campaigns of various types of ideology throughout my life and none of these people who insist they are actually the base were there to care.

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William Lewis  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:26:49pm

re: #132 Scottish Dragon

When I mention I’m not particularly a fan of the Coen Brothers (I did like True Grit) people react like I just shot their dog or something.

Sounds like the reaction I get when I tell people I consider Tarantino an unmitigated hack who only makes violence porn.

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:27:21pm

re: #102 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Once you know (as if you could claim ignorance at all before), because (finally) it’s pointed out to you, and you still do nothing to change it, then yes, you are one.

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It’s been awhile since we posted this:

James Baldwin Debates William F. Buckley (1965)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:27:43pm

re: #186 EPR-radar

Buttigieg on a debate stage vs. Trump will look like a normal human being. Meanwhile, Trump will still look like the Orange Thing that Crawled out of Satan’s Anus to End Life as We Know it.

I mean I hate to sound shallow but Trump supporters really shouldn’t be making fun of how anyone looks. Trump looks like a Bond villain. He reminds me of Goldfinger except you know not smart and I think Goldfinger spoke English better.*

* That’s a joke. A reference to the fact that they dubbed in another actor’s voice.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:27:51pm

re: #183 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I believe Rush was the same fat fuck that carried Viagra “for a friend.” The same Rush, that only when he became ultra wealthy, was anything like a real eligible bachelor.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:28:07pm

even the D’s are doing the ‘socialism’ thing

Rep. Joe Cunningham (D-SC), one of only two Democratic congressmen from South Carolina, forcefully rebuked Sen. Bernie Sanders, jolting the state’s “First in the South” presidential primary race just hours after the Vermont senator won in New Hampshire, the Charleston Post & Courier reports.

Said Cunningham: “South Carolinians don’t want socialism. We want to know how you are going to get things done and how you are going to pay for them. Bernie’s proposals to raise taxes on almost everyone is not something the Lowcountry wants and not something I’d ever support.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:28:17pm

re: #181 PrairieQueen

JFC.

I’m not the worlds biggest supporter of the gay lifestyle but I know these people exist and have rights and have relationships and I don’t consider two men (or women for that matter) kissing to be a massive affront to me the same they shouldn’t consider me kissing my wife in public an affront to them.

I really hate how gay people are automatically assumed to be weak and feeble pansies that just can’t cut it in the real world.

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:29:42pm

re: #184 EPR-radar

It’s morbid to make a rank-ordered list of obituaries one wants to read before dying. But Trump and Rush are 1 and 2 respectively on that list for me.

I’d put Rush number 3; 2 is McConnell.

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:29:48pm

re: #183 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

With Rush Limbaugh, cancer couldn’t have found a better life partner.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:29:54pm

re: #189 sagehen

It’s been awhile since we posted this:

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Was thinking of Baldwin recently since I’ve been watching the new Netflix documentary on Malcolm X. I had to read a Baldwin short story in college. And I’m glad I did. We also read an Alice Walker short story the same semester. It was a post WWII American lit class so we read Walker, Baldwin, John Updike, John Cheever, Anne Tyler, Don DeLillo.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:30:48pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

Boss: We’re experiencing the greatest profitability in this company’s history! We’re making money hand over fist!

Workers: That’s awesome!

Boss: Unfortunately, we’re also experiencing major financial issues, so all the pay raises we promised have been canceled.

Workers: But you just said the company is profitable!

Boss: Yes I did, which is why that profit is going to our investors. Feel free to thank me for not firing your ass for pointing that out.

Been on the receiving end of one of those. Corporate income metric for triggering a company-wide bonus was missed due to a multiple million dollar transfer into a account used to pay the top 20 or so company executives *their* special bonus payments.

We later got a “pity bonus” 1/2% bonus for just missing the target instead of the 3% we would have gotten for making the target.

(Only knew about this due to knowing the IT guy who supported payroll accounting that was pulled into a special meeting where they carried out the transfer and made sure it was in the right accounts. If you ever wanted to see rock-bottom cynicism it was that floor of the HQ - IT/Accounting/Treasury. We saw all the shenanigans.)

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:31:06pm

re: #194 sagehen

I’d put Rush number 3; 2 is McConnell.

thankfully all three are relatively old and not in the greatest of health

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:31:20pm

re: #195 Florida Panhandler

With Rush Limbaugh, cancer couldn’t have found a better life partner.

The case of Rush Limbaugh is a medical marvel: Cancer has contracted cancer.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:32:15pm

re: #51 Targetpractice

So let me see if I’ve got this straight: The 4 lawyers assigned to prosecute this case filed a sentencing recommendation with the court that was double what the “guidelines” say they should be, the DOJ only discovered this after Trump railed against it on Twitter, and they stepped in to “correct” the filing without noting at any time that the original filing had been in excess of DOJ “guidelines.”

Wouldn’t it have saved everybody’s time had Barr just let things play out, then made up some BS to justify a Trump pardon instead?

I don’t think so.
A) Trump wants *immediate* gratification after opening his yap.
B) I think some of the intent is intimidation.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:33:19pm

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

JFC.

I’m not the worlds biggest supporter of the gay lifestyle but I know these people exist and have rights and have relationships and I don’t consider two men (or women for that matter) kissing to be a massive affront to me the same they shouldn’t consider me kissing my wife in public an affront to them.

I really hate how gay people are automatically assumed to be weak and feeble pansies that just can’t cut it in the real world.

And even if gay people are more effeminate. So the hell what. I’m supposed to look down on Pete because he doesn’t act like a retrograde idea of masculinity? These guys really are not comfortable with their sexuality or how they present themselves. It’s why they constantly have to mock gay men as being from the most absurd anti gay caricature. I have problems with Pete but it’s got nothing to do with him being gay.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:33:36pm

re: #194 sagehen

I’d put Rush number 3; 2 is McConnell.

McConnell is loathsome, but I remain convinced any GOP senator in his position would have done the same as McConnell did. GOP senators are the lowert of the low, so any leader of their caucus is going to be a giant piece of shit.

So IMO he’s just the face of the Republican Borg.

Rush and Trump are more unique.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:34:09pm

he’s never gonna show up

Attorney General Bill Barr has accepted an invitation to testify before the House Judiciary Committee on March 31, the New York Times reports.

Politico notes the appearance will end a year-long standoff that began when the panel first demanded his testimony in the aftermath of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:35:28pm

re: #203 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

he’s never gonna show up

The thing they will have to watch out for if he does is that they can’t currently punish him for lying.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:36:09pm

CNN

The turnout in Tuesday night’s Democratic New Hampshire primary was the party’s highest ever and provided a hopeful sign to Democrats disappointed by low enthusiasm demonstrated in Iowa last week.

The roughly 291,000 votes counted as of early Wednesday afternoon outpaced the 288,672 who voted in 2008, the previous high for Democrats in the Granite State.
In contrast, the 176,574 who turned out to vote in Iowa last week was well behind 2008’s 239,872, which alarmed Democrats who believe a strong turnout will be necessary to oust President Donald Trump from the White House in November.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:36:30pm

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

I wouldn’t give a shit if Pete was a limp-wristed, lisping guy with the body of a ferret that wore pink panties and danced to Cher in his kitchen if he was smart and tough and made good decisions. Stereotypical masculinity and being smart or tough or capable are not inextricably connected. Sex is sex, and to each their own.

Our current so-called Mr. Man POTUS has to pay for sex, demeans women, got out of military service with bone spurs, reportedly lasts about two minutes in the sack, and seems to think orange skin and raccoon eyes makes him super attractive. How is that any stranger or more acceptable?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:37:54pm

re: #206 PrairieQueen

I wouldn’t give a shit if Pete was a limp-wristed, lisping guy with the body of a ferret that wore pink panties and danced to Cher in his kitchen if he was smart and tough and made good decisions. Stereotypical masculinity and being smart or tough or capable are not inextricably connected. Sex is sex, and to each their own.

Our current so-called Mr. Man POTUS has to pay for sex, demeans women, got out of military service with bone spurs, reportedly lasts about two minutes in the sack, and seems to think orange skin and raccoon eyes makes him super attractive. How is that any stranger or more acceptable?

This.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:39:26pm

re: #164 EPR-radar

I agree that Fox News and Hate radio have to go. But how to do that in a sharply polarized country where Republicans are acting completely in bad faith at all times and on every issue?

Can’t the FCC require that anything calling itself “news” cannot have more than x% bullshit? A “no deliberate lying” policy would ruin Fox, without having to be specifically aimed at them. It might even make a dent in hate radio.

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Chrysicat  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:42:57pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:43:11pm

re: #208 Jebediah, RBG

Can’t the FCC require that anything calling itself “news” cannot have more than x% bullshit? A “no deliberate lying” policy would ruin Fox, without having to be specifically aimed at them. It might even make a dent in hate radio.

only over the airwaves

cable makes it meaningless

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:44:55pm

re: #208 Jebediah, RBG

Can’t the FCC require that anything calling itself “news” cannot have more than x% bullshit? A “no deliberate lying” policy would ruin Fox, without having to be specifically aimed at them. It might even make a dent in hate radio.

It’s a classic case of ‘who watches the watchmen’. Republicans are utterly corrupt, so they would either corrupt the FCC entirely or stop it from acting. They could also define ‘lying’ to suit their needs.

Bottom line is that government agency powerful enough to get Fox News and Hate Radio forcibly shut down is powerful enough to be a Ministry of Truth in GOP hands.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:45:04pm

re: #145 The Ghost of a Flea

Yeah, but we have to pretend it was fucking Mordor Where The Shadows Lie because if Nazi Germany was just a spectrum of shitty human being ranging from malice to indifference, then it would be comparable to, if still worse than in raw numbers, to the crimes of, say, the Allies in their colonial holdings.

And we’re not fucking do that, okay? Absolutely no reason to dig into who invented concentration camps, how distributed antisemitism was distributed worldwide, where the Nazis cribbed torchlight marches from, or how many people just sort of imported watered down Nazi rhetoric once they thought they could get away with it because Communists Bad.

What stood out for Nazi Germany is not the attitudes and being shitty, but that they did it on an organized and industrial scale.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:46:18pm

re: #210 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

only over the airwaves

cable makes it meaningless

That distinction could be wiped out by law, but the larger problem is how to stop the GOP from corrupting any proposed official media watchdogs.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:47:09pm

re: #211 EPR-radar

It’s a classic case of ‘who watches the watchmen’. Republicans are utterly corrupt, so they would either corrupt the FCC entirely or stop it from acting. They could also define ‘lying’ to suit their needs.

Bottom line is that government agency powerful enough to get Fox News and Hate Radio forcibly shut down is powerful enough to be a Ministry of Truth in GOP hands.

in a real sense Fox is the price of the first amendment - speech and press

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Chrysicat  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:47:41pm

re: #210 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

only over the airwaves

cable makes it meaningless

Well, except for the whole “FCC has the right to regulate other parts of cable, it’s just that right now there’s no legislation allowing regulation for content purposes. Which is great inasmuch as it’s allowed to throw around language and adult themes as though every hour were post-Watershed”.

I’m not sure, though, if any act passing Congress to give the FCC the right to regulate content on cable wouldn’t be abused to censor the language and the sex seen on it, so I unfortunately have to agree with you that in the current environment it’d have to remain immune to the Doctrine.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:48:08pm

re: #166 PrairieQueen

Look how much effort and money has been spent historically on convicting crime family members. Look at the burden of proof necessary for a conviction. But it’s been accomplished, and successfully. Now just put GOP (or corrupt member of any party) after their name, and proceed as normal. NBD.

Yes - and given how quickly some of these crimes flip to try and save themselves, there should be oceans of evidence against the biggest fishes.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:48:56pm

re: #160 The Pie Overlord!

I loved folk music and bluegrass back in the day. The “Soggy Bottom Boys” cover of “Constant Sorrow” is way way better than the dreary Joan Baez version.

Weren’t the Soggy Bottom Boys actually Union Station, Allison Krause’s band? Jerry Douglas (I’m a Huge Fan) and all…..

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:49:21pm

re: #160 The Pie Overlord!

I loved folk music and bluegrass back in the day. The “Soggy Bottom Boys” cover of “Constant Sorrow” is way way better than the dreary Joan Baez version.

I saw Alison Kraus and Union Station in Rochester, NY a few years back. Right before they played “Man of Constant Sorrow” Alison Kraus commented that Dan Tyminski’s wife loved it since it was her husband’s voice in George Clooney’s body.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:50:36pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

Enough other Republicans are complicit in Trumpco crimes and the like that there would be little observable difference between following the trail of crime wherever it leads, and a legal decapitation of the Republican party.

The US Powers that Be would almost certainly not permit anything like that.

Sadly I can’t really argue against that position, but if get all 3 branches long enough to enact real campaign finance reform, those Powers will become less powerful.

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retired cynic  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:51:00pm

The Rude Pundit: Trump’s Ultimate Goal: The Erasure of Barack Obama

Some Democrats are defending Obama’s legacy, like Nancy Pelosi did in her press conference after the State of the Union and, obviously, like Joe Biden is on the campaign trail. But it seems like Trump’s lies about Obama ought to be front and center, at least as a reminder that a Democratic president didn’t screw things up. In fact, the job of a Democratic president since Clinton has been to clean up the wreckage left by the Republicans.

Trump’s making a hell of a mess. Let’s not allow him to throw President Obama into the trash heap of history.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:52:08pm

re: #176 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

i guess it was how they did the movie because “reserve grand champion chestnut gelding Lord Britian” was not in the movie as a ball player

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Put me in boss, I’m ready to play. Center field.
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:52:25pm

Poor Max Boot.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:53:08pm

Has anyone listened to any of Jerry Douglas’s Individual work? Just outstanding. He does a lot of old Irish folk songs as well.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:53:25pm

re: #220 retired cynic

The Rude Pundit: Trump’s Ultimate Goal: The Erasure of Barack Obama

One thing even though a lot of his strategy has annoyed me by Biden is to remind people that Obama is a great guy and was a great president. That’s definitely part of why I want no part in someone like Sanders.

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:58:44pm

re: #224 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

One thing even though a lot of his strategy has annoyed me by Biden is to remind people that Obama is a great guy and was a great president. That’s definitely part of why I want no part in someone like Sanders.

Biden only does one thing that really ticks me off — this unmitigated shit about being able to work with Republicans. But that is very irritating.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:59:29pm

re: #203 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

he’s never gonna show up

Barr is also now pretty sure he is safe. GOP Senate majority ensures that he will be untouched, the media won’t report on anything he says with sufficient seriousness (or better yet will spin it as being the Democrats trying to trap him as an election ploy), and he always has the option to say nothing or outright lie some more since no one will hold him to account anyways and he thinks Trump has his back. (Trump has no one’s back, and Barr will eventually learn that the hard way maybe.)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 2:59:44pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

Biden only does one thing that really ticks me off — this unmitigated shit about being able to work with Republicans. But that is very irritating.

Right it’s a big part of his strategy.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:01:15pm

re: #208 Jebediah, RBG

Can’t the FCC require that anything calling itself “news” cannot have more than x% bullshit? A “no deliberate lying” policy would ruin Fox, without having to be specifically aimed at them. It might even make a dent in hate radio.

Would the new department needed to enforce that have to include a special flying squad simply to deal with Gish Gallops?

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:02:11pm

re: #228 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Right it’s a big part of his strategy.

What drives me up a wall about that is that it supports the Great Both-Siderist Lie (h/t Driftglass) that will kill us all if left in place much longer.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:02:19pm

re: #221 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The horse in the newspaper was a chestnut (red/brown base body color, mane and tail) jumper, probably a Thoroughbred or crossbred at that era. Horse in pic is a bay Clydesdale (red/brown body, black mane and tail). Difference between a sports car and a dump truck, but that’s okay LOL.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:02:49pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

Biden only does one thing that really ticks me off — this unmitigated shit about being able to work with Republicans. But that is very irritating.

i dont believe he means it
i think it’s a campaign tactic

he knows full well what’s in store if he should win

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:02:55pm

re: #176 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

i guess it was how they did the movie because “reserve grand champion chestnut gelding Lord Britian” was not in the movie as a ball player

Of course not; geldings have no balls.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:04:14pm

re: #218 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I saw Alison Kraus and Union Station in Rochester, NY a few years back. Right before they played “Man of Constant Sorrow” Alison Kraus commented that Dan Tyminski’s wife loved it since it was her husband’s voice in George Clooney’s body.

She went to my high school, albeit, several years after I graduated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:04:35pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:04:51pm

re: #231 PrairieQueen

The horse in the newspaper was a chestnut (red/brown base body color, mane and tail) jumper, probably a Thoroughbred or crossbred at that era. Horse in pic is a bay Clydesdale (red/brown body, black mane and tail). Difference between a sports car and a dump truck, but that’s okay LOL.

well considering the story in the paper was about the New York Knights baseball team, i’m not sure how much being accurate about the horse actually matters //

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:05:13pm

re: #233 sagehen

Of course not; geldings have no balls.

+1

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:05:35pm

re: #142 lawhawk

The Mrs finds their stuff hit and miss.

I love their quirky sensibility/humor. Raising Arizona was my introduction, but found Hudsucker Proxy to be a classic and timeless critique of the business world.

Hail Caesar was interesting for their take on Hollywood, and No Country For Old Men was a modern Western/horror. And then there’s Fargo, which I find absolutely fascinating in every way.

Passionately loathed No Country for Old Men. Finally watched Fargo and thought it was similar to A Simple Plan. Well made but I have utterly no desire to ever see it again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:05:54pm
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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:06:16pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

His buddy fat fuck Rush was a drug addict, and he got a medal.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:06:25pm

re: #238 Scottish Dragon

Passionately loathed No Country for Old Men. Finally watched Fargo and thought it was similar to A Simple Plan. Well made but I have utterly no desire to ever see it again.

My favorites are “Miller’s Crossing” and “Barton Fink.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:07:24pm

re: #231 PrairieQueen

The horse in the newspaper was a chestnut (red/brown base body color, mane and tail) jumper, probably a Thoroughbred or crossbred at that era. Horse in pic is a bay Clydesdale (red/brown body, black mane and tail). Difference between a sports car and a dump truck, but that’s okay LOL.

Well, most of my horse pictures are Clydesdales since that is what my brother-in-law raised and worked with. And he has had his share of Grand Champion and Reserve Grand Champion showings at the Denver Stock Show.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:09:07pm
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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:09:13pm

re: #236 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Only to a horse person. It’s like when car buffs or gun collectors watch a movie and groan because something is clearly not accurate. Horse people do that too. Like, you watch an old Western supposedly set in the late 1800s and think, well that bit or saddle wasn’t made before 1940. Yeah, you notice those things.

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dell*nix  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:09:35pm

re: #77 retired cynic

In 1967/68 I was TDY to Laos to provide aircraft armament support to the Royal Lao Air Force. Met Gen. Vang Pao. In 1973/74/75 had to sit in Thailand and watch Laos, Cambodia and South Viet Nam fall. Watched how the refugees were dealt with by the countries they got to and what happened to those that did not get out.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:10:57pm

re: #217 Dave In Austin

Weren’t the Soggy Bottom Boys actually Union Station, Allison Krause’s band? Jerry Douglas (I’m a Huge Fan) and all…..

Pretty much all of the that band are on the soundtrack. I’m just not sure if it was all together or in different parts.

I was always impressed that Tim Blake Nelson did his own singing for “In the Jailhouse Now”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:11:21pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:12:05pm

re: #232 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

i dont believe he means it
i think it’s a campaign tactic

he knows full well what’s in store if he should win

I don’t care whether or not he believes in it. It’s damaging as hell just to have this shit out there.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:12:56pm

re: #246 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Pretty much all of the that band are on the soundtrack. I’m just not sure if it was all together or in different parts.

I was always impressed that Tim Blake Nelson did his own singing for “In the Jailhouse Now”.

The soundtrack to O Brother is outstanding,

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:13:22pm

re: #246 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Pretty much all of the that band are on the soundtrack. I’m just not sure if it was all together or in different parts.

I was always impressed that Tim Blake Nelson did his own singing for “In the Jailhouse Now”.

Tim can sing as we also saw in Buster Scruggs. Loved that version of “In the Jailhouse.”

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EPR-radar  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:13:59pm

re: #244 PrairieQueen

Only to a horse person. It’s like when car buffs or gun collectors watch a movie and groan because something is clearly not accurate. Horse people do that too. Like, you watch an old Western supposedly set in the late 1800s and think, well that bit or saddle wasn’t made before 1940. Yeah, you notice those things.

Or like how I notice the chess scene in Blade Runner is all wrong because I know chess does not work as portrayed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:14:21pm

BOOM

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:14:40pm

re: #244 PrairieQueen

Only to a horse person. It’s like when car buffs or gun collectors watch a movie and groan because something is clearly not accurate. Horse people do that too. Like, you watch an old Western supposedly set in the late 1800s and think, well that bit or saddle wasn’t made before 1940. Yeah, you notice those things.

i’ve owned my share of horses.
and yes - i do that with any movie that has motorcycles, scuba diving, small planes, the occasional fencing scene, accounting or taxes, etc.

i was being facetious, as we totally lose focus on the baseball team
and even as a fantasy, the movie got a lot of baseball wrong

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:15:29pm

The Master Race:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:15:47pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BOOM

Why does a Hungarian fascist Anton Levey cosplayer comment on democracy?

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BeachDem  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:15:53pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

In retrospect, it’s obvious that all those who insisted that a Trump presidency was not something to worry about thought that it would be just another Dubya presidency. That Pence would exert some measure of control over Trump’s hiring decisions and stock the place with the same sort of political yes-men that Dubya had surrounded himself with. That Trump would defer to Pence whenever it came down to making decisions with political consequences as Dubya had done with Cheney, with Congressional Repubs working closely with Pence to be on the same page.

Because never before in world history has a man been put into power by a bunch of rubes who thought they could control him, only to discover that his newfound power means he doesn’t have to listen to them.//////

Case in point:

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:18:06pm

re: #210 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

only over the airwaves

cable makes it meaningless

Oh yeah… oops.
If I understand correctly, the FCC regulates over air broadcasting because the frequency spectrum belongs to everybody. We, through the mechanism of the federal government, allow broadcasters to use bits of that spectrum. In return, we demand that they behave.
In most places I have lived, cable options were limited (or there was only one provider for a given area.) Each cable operator needs permission from the local government to operate, and to operate with limited competition as well.
I am unilaterally declaring that that process is sufficiently analogous to the distribution of bits of the broadcast frequency spectrum as to allow for government regulation. I am also declaring that, for this specific purpose ONLY, each local government is a subset of the federal government and therefor the FCC may demand truthful news even from cable news. “Wait,” you say, “aren’t you conflating carriers/distributors with the content creators in a legally flawed manner with potential unwanted repercussions elsewhere?” Yes, yes I am. But Alan Dershowitz assures me that it is all perfectly fine, and he is famous, so there you go.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:18:16pm

re: #253 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

i’ve owned my share of horses.
and yes - i do that with any movie that has motorcycles, scuba diving, small planes, the occasional fencing scene, accounting or taxes, etc.

i was being facetious, as we totally lose focus on the baseball team
and even as a fantasy, the movie got a lot of baseball wrong

Last week I posted about a movie-goer who is also an avid birder. He complained about the plaintive call of the Loon being used in a scene in 1917because the call is a mating call performed on bodies of water (and none were near the historical site of the scene) and the Loon is not native of France. It bugged him throughout the movie, he said.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:18:20pm

re: #254 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

They look every inch the product of superior genetics, and he wasn’t worthy to wear their brand.//

Just as a diminutive fatass like Hitler had an ass wider than his shoulders and had to sit on phone books. Yup, world champion gene pool.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:19:56pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:20:44pm

re: #211 EPR-radar

It’s a classic case of ‘who watches the watchmen’. Republicans are utterly corrupt, so they would either corrupt the FCC entirely or stop it from acting. They could also define ‘lying’ to suit their needs.

Bottom line is that government agency powerful enough to get Fox News and Hate Radio forcibly shut down is powerful enough to be a Ministry of Truth in GOP hands.

All true, but I am stipulating that at this point the GOP has gotten its just reward and is powerless.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:22:05pm

re: #258 Barefoot Grin

Last week I posted about a movie-goer who is also an avid birder. He complained about the plaintive call of the Loon being used in a scene in 1917because the call is a mating call performed on bodies of water (and none were near the historical site of the scene) and the Loon is not native of France. It bugged him throughout the movie, he said.

i remember that post

most of the time i have to remind myself
- it’s only a movie
- it’s the willing suspension of disbelief

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:24:17pm

re: #258 Barefoot Grin

Last week I posted about a movie-goer who is also an avid birder. He complained about the plaintive call of the Loon being used in a scene in 1917because the call is a mating call performed on bodies of water (and none were near the historical site of the scene) and the Loon is not native of France. It bugged him throughout the movie, he said.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:27:23pm

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Albert Ball wasn’t going to live to see his 21st birthday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:27:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:30:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:31:53pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:32:24pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:33:57pm
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jaunte  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:34:33pm
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retired cynic  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:36:19pm

re: #234 Barefoot Grin

She went to my high school, albeit, several years after I graduated.

Alison Krauss is adored by the country music community around here. Union Station, too. They have played in the same venues, and think the world of them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:36:26pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:36:43pm

re: #269 Patricia Kayden

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An interesting adjustment to make. Which won’t matter since the lies that then come out will simply be ignored as both-siderism.

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jaunte  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:36:54pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:37:57pm

re: #268 Chrysicat

Longtime hockey fan here. Trust me when I say Roenick has been a dick for years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:38:48pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:39:37pm

re: #274 jaunte

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:40:45pm

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

Longtime hockey fan here. Trust me when I say Roenick has been a dick for years.

And when I have watch hockey in recent years I’ve simply ignored Roenick’s studio commentary since he is not insightful at all. (A NHL version of Troy Aikman for you NFL watchers - good player, cliche-ridden and relatively vacant commentor.)

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jaunte  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:42:52pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:47:33pm
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Mike Lamb  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:51:04pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just wait.

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Mike Lamb  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:52:22pm

re: #274 jaunte

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“Even in the scales”? What in the fuck?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:54:44pm

re: #282 Mike Lamb

“Even in the scales”? What in the fuck?

“Even the scales”. You threw an extra word in there.

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Chrysicat  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:56:18pm

re: #274 jaunte

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:56:43pm

re: #274 jaunte

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um, there is no such thing as the ‘deep state’

it’s crackpot thinking and you are a crackpot for writing this

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:58:19pm

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Dave In Austin  Feb 12, 2020 • 3:58:52pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:00:05pm

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

I knew he was an a-hole on the ice and in related pursuits because I was watching him whine about Potatoes Lyonnaise in 1996 (Avs fan, stood in line on the uphill side of McNichols to try to get tickets for the Cup Final, though if I’d managed it, I’d likely have scalped them rather’n attending).

I didn’t realise it amounted to him being a full redpilled shitgibbon until I heard about this and I didn’t even hear about it in the original, but only in the “NBC refused to reinstate him and he lashed out” sense.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:09:29pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:10:52pm

re: #288 Chrysicat

There was one time Patrick Roy absolutely owned him. When the Avalanche were playing the Blackhawks in the Western Conference Final in 1996, Roenick got pissed off at no penalty being called on a play that would have given him a breakway on Roy (who was the Avs goalie). When told of the comment, Roy responded: “I would have stopped it anyway.” Then Roenick quipped that he wondered where Roy was in Game 3 (when Roenick had scored on him), famously suggesting he was “up in the rafters looking for his jockstrap.”

When told about this, Roy replied: “Tell Jeremy I can’t hear a word he says because I have two Championship rings plugging my ears.”

Roy and the Avalanche would go on to win the Stanley Cup again after beating the Blackhawks. Roenick never won a cup.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:14:32pm

re: #289 goddamnedfrank

I couldn’t think of the word Venn diagram when I was talking about nutjob Jim Bakker. But yeah, Venn diagram.

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Chrysicat  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:19:46pm

Now that there’re finally comments below my last one, I can add this that I generated almost as soon as I’d posted the last one…

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:20:04pm

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s really lovely. Thanks.

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plansbandc  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:21:11pm

re: #157 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Quite true. It really gave roots, folk, and especially bluegrass a huge bump.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:22:29pm

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

Longtime hockey fan here. Trust me when I say Roenick has been a dick for years.

Is it a coincidence that Roenick looks just like Curt Schilling?

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plansbandc  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:23:41pm

re: #271 retired cynic

I love AKUS!!

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:25:52pm

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Chrysicat  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:27:16pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:31:03pm

re: #201 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And even if gay people are more effeminate. So the hell what. I’m supposed to look down on Pete because he doesn’t act like a retrograde idea of masculinity? These guys really are not comfortable with their sexuality or how they present themselves. It’s why they constantly have to mock gay men as being from the most absurd anti gay caricature. I have problems with Pete but it’s got nothing to do with him being gay.

When you consider that most of these people live like soft French dukes and are built like the portrait of Dorian Gray, realize that it’s not even that they value the manly masculinity they bray about. Manliness, like whiteness, actually doesn’t have any definition, because any definition with hard boundaries would exclude them.

I mean, I’m talking a lot about the hollowing out of meaning, but: seriously, consider how little “manliness” means when it can expand to encompass these syphilitic blanchemanges and their Louis XIVth repro. And the believers are fine with it, because fuck no they’re not going to live up to any of the positive attributes of old-school manliness; they’re just willing to dabble in the concept when it gives them license to be shitty or cruel.

The slightly more nuanced version of this is how they view soldiers as “manly” because they have license to kill, but don’t like the complexity, and someetimes tragedy, of actually being a soldier. A guy who shoots because he’s having fun being cruel is their idea of what a solider is, so Gallagher is one of the good ones. Any person who’s served and come away with “that was hard, and killing is terrible, maybe we should think about how we make the call to fight very carefully” is weak.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:40:10pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:41:11pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:42:54pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

BOOM

Proposed reading 1: Seb Gorka totally has a womb. In a mason jar.

Proposed reading 2: Seb Gorka has a wife, and thus has a womb because it’s not like it’s hers or something…

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:49:12pm

I love this. PREACH IT!

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:51:32pm
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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:56:22pm

re: #303 The Pie Overlord!

I love this. PREACH IT!

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From 2016, I believe, but bears repeating.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:58:12pm

re: #305 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

From 2016, I believe, but bears repeating.

I figured as much since Obama calls him “The Nominee”

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Skip Intro  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:58:58pm

re: #305 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

If it wasn’t already four years old shouldn’t’ it read “Republican”, not “Republicans”?

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:59:16pm

re: #158 Dread Pirate

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Are they cruising in the Arctic? Because I hear warm weather kills this virus.

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Semper Fi  Feb 12, 2020 • 4:59:27pm

re: #303 The Pie Overlord!

I love this. PREACH IT!

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Thanks for posting. It was nice to hear The President again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:01:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:08:04pm
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plansbandc  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:10:48pm

Megadeth tour is actually coming here and I am very tempted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:13:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:16:02pm
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William Lewis  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:16:19pm

re: #312 plansbandc

Megadeth tour is actually coming here and I am very tempted.

If they were anywhere near here I’d go. Mustaine is a serious whackadoo but the music is still some of the best metal ever made. I’d just get a major kick out of hearing “Peace Sells” live, sorta like (well, no not quite) at the U2 show and 50,000 people are singing “Pride (In the name of love)”

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A Mom Anon  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:16:46pm

re: #312 plansbandc

GOOOOO! It’ll be loud and fun!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:17:01pm

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Being poor is not a character flaw]

But being rich often is.

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Mescalero09  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:17:21pm

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trey looks like a spermatozoa with clothes on.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:19:35pm

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:21:05pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:21:13pm

re: #319 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Wait, wait, wait! It gets even WAY WORSE! Obama put dijon mustard on his CHEESEBURGER!!!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:21:57pm

re: #318 Mescalero09

Trey looks like a non-viable spermatozoa with clothes on.

FIFY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:21:57pm

re: #321 Ace Rothstein

and he wore a tan suit!

TAN SUIT!!!!

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Mescalero09  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:22:57pm

re: #322 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

FIFY

Badly clothed non viable

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:24:10pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Malia smoked weed at Lollapalooza! As an ADULT!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:24:45pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:26:25pm

Just discovered my phone can not access network. I last received a text on the 8th. Tells me I need to add minutes. Have over 9600 minutes and 46 days of service remaining on my phone.
Does allow me to contact cell provider customer service though. Unfortunately, in order for them to troubleshoot phone, I must contact them from a different phone. And, I have no local friends/associates to help me. Apparently they do not have a online customer service chat system set up.

Typical

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Amory Blaine  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:29:24pm

Don’t want to piss in anyone’s Cheerios, but knowledge is power.

Megadeth’s Dave Mustaine Claims President Obama Staged Recent Shooting Massacres

We’re not exactly sure what Mustaine truly means by the term, “staging,” but the Megadeth frontman is claiming that either President Obama has fabricated the incidents, or was, in fact, the mastermind behind the ATF gunwalking scandal, the ‘Dark Knight Rises’ movie theatre shooting in Colorado and the recent shooting spree at a Sikh temple in Milwaukee.

“Back in my country, my president [makes puking sign with his finger in his mouth], he’s trying to pass a gun ban, so he’s staging all of these murders,” begins Mustaine. “Like the ‘Fast And Furious’ thing down at the border; [the massacre in] Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there; and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple [near Milwaukee, Wisconsin].”

He persists, “I was talking to J.D., our promoter here tonight… What a great guy. I was saying, ‘I don’t know where I’m gonna live if America keeps going the way it’s going because it looks like it’s turning into Nazi America. And he [J.D.] said, ‘Move down here to Singapore.’”

Dave MUSTAINE alex jones interview

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:29:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:31:11pm
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William Lewis  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:33:47pm

re: #328 Freedom Turnip

As I said, he’s a serious wackadoo. So are some actors in things I like to watch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:43:16pm
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Mattand  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:44:01pm

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mr. President, a couple minor corrections: (1) I have never committed a crime, which is an important pre-req for jail in most countries, still including ours; and (2) there’s just one book, but I think there is a movie coming and I hope you get to see it.

I realize it’s just me, but whenever I see quotes/tweets from the ilk of Jennifer Rubin, Frum, Comey, et. al., I’m all “Fuck you, you frigging morons. You all helped contribute to this fucking mess.”

Comey in particular. I still convinced he October-surprised Clinton to get in Trump’s good graces in order to keep his job after the election. Like most Trump flunkies, he found out Trump is loyal to no one but himself.

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Mattand  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:44:32pm

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wilma the boxer got robbed.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:45:46pm

re: #333 Mattand

I realize it’s just me, but whenever I see quotes/tweets from the ilk of Jennifer Rubin, Frum, Comey, et. al., I’m all “Fuck you, you frigging morons. You all helped contribute to this fucking mess.”

Comey in particular. I still convinced he October-surprised Clinton to get in Trump’s good graces in order to keep his job after the election. Like most Trump flunkies, he found out Trump is loyal to no one but himself.

You took the words right out of my psyche. It absolutely infuriates me.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:48:09pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now give her a Presidential Medal of Freedom. She deserves it unlike the Pill popping cyst.

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Chrysicat  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:48:16pm

re: #304 Ace Rothstein

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:49:56pm

re: #334 Mattand

Wilma the boxer got robbed.

Simone had opinions…

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Chrysicat  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:50:14pm

re: #328 Freedom Turnip

Don’t want to piss in anyone’s Cheerios, but knowledge is power.

Megadeth’s Dave Mustaine Claims President Obama Staged Recent Shooting Massacres

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There is a reason that the vast majority of people who still enjoy rock like Metallica and hate Megadeth. He’s a major portion of that reason, and we already knew that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:56:28pm
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retired cynic  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:57:24pm

re: #299 The Ghost of a Flea

ALL the updings for “syphilitic blanchemanges and their Louis XIVth repro…”

When you consider that most of these people live like soft French dukes and are built like the portrait of Dorian Gray, realize that it’s not even that they value the manly masculinity they bray about. Manliness, like whiteness, actually doesn’t have any definition, because any definition with hard boundaries would exclude them.

I mean, I’m talking a lot about the hollowing out of meaning, but: seriously, consider how little “manliness” means when it can expand to encompass these syphilitic blanchemanges and their Louis XIVth repro. And the believers are fine with it, because fuck no they’re not going to live up to any of the positive attributes of old-school manliness; they’re just willing to dabble in the concept when it gives them license to be shitty or cruel.

The slightly more nuanced version of this is how they view soldiers as “manly” because they have license to kill, but don’t like the complexity, and someetimes tragedy, of actually being a soldier. A guy who shoots because he’s having fun being cruel is their idea of what a solider is, so Gallagher is one of the good ones. Any person who’s served and come away with “that was hard, and killing is terrible, maybe we should think about how we make the call to fight very carefully” is weak.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:58:17pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:59:06pm

re: #337 Chrysicat

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Eisenhower was never in frontline combat until WWII.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 12, 2020 • 5:59:37pm

Evening Lizardim. What’s new as the temperature plummets toward -20 degrees F (-28.9 degrees C)?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:00:05pm
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sagehen  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:00:12pm

re: #333 Mattand

Comey in particular. I still convinced he October-surprised Clinton to get in Trump’s good graces in order to keep his job after the election. Like most Trump flunkies, he found out Trump is loyal to no one but himself.

I don’t see it that way.

I think he October-surprised Clinton because he thought she’d win anyway, and he wanted her pre-weakened before taking office.

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Belafon  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:02:40pm

re: #346 sagehen

I don’t see it that way.

I think he October-surprised Clinton because he thought she’d win anyway, and he wanted her pre-weakened before taking office.

Yep. “See, the men will still be in charge.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:04:14pm

re: #333 Mattand

I realize it’s just me, but whenever I see quotes/tweets from the ilk of Jennifer Rubin, Frum, Comey, et. al., I’m all “Fuck you, you frigging morons. You all helped contribute to this fucking mess.”

Comey in particular. I still convinced he October-surprised Clinton to get in Trump’s good graces in order to keep his job after the election. Like most Trump flunkies, he found out Trump is loyal to no one but himself.

Wasn’t it just that he was afraid of the Giuliani-friendly Trump-loving FBI office in New York and that if he didn’t take action, they would be leaking documents, and discrediting the FBI.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:06:12pm
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retired cynic  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:07:02pm

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Siba the winner of the dog show looks like she was a woman who died in 1986 and came back as a poodle.”

It’s not the dog’s fault.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:08:55pm

re: #349 Dave In Austin

This is a scam. No one has ever won a “Free Trip To Get A Photo Op With Trump” Or maybe the loser just did not want to accept the ticket.

352
PhillyPretzel  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:09:30pm

re: #349 Dave In Austin

If they throw in tickets to meet former Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger I will give them a couple of dollars.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:15:57pm

re: #351 The Pie Overlord!

I just brought it along to make fun of it.
Popcorn with Stephen Miller

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Mattand  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:17:33pm

re: #346 sagehen

I don’t see it that way.

I think he October-surprised Clinton because he thought she’d win anyway, and he wanted her pre-weakened before taking office.

re: #347 Belafon

Yep. “See, the men will still be in charge.”

Yeah, I can see that.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:18:16pm

Rachel is shit hot tonite. Get it on if you can.

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Chrysicat  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:18:23pm

I know, late. I also suspect someone got to it while I was mainly consumed with vidya gaming yesterday, but:

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Mattand  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:21:33pm

re: #348 Hecuba’s daughter

Wasn’t it just that he was afraid of the Giuliani-friendly Trump-loving FBI office in New York and that if he didn’t take action, they would be leaking documents, and discrediting the FBI.

*Puts on tin foil hat*

THAT’S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE!!!!!!

Seriously, though, that is probably the most likely reason. It’s still infuriating because it means for all of his fucking blather about serving the country and the law, he couldn’t control his own goddamn people. Still casts him in a shitty light, particularly when you factor in him hiding the concurrent Trump investigation.

I also go back to the fact that he was a Republican Whitewater prosecutor. Given how he basically was covering for Trump while fucking over HRC, I can’t believe there wasn’t a “I finally got her” motive in there.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:24:58pm

re: #349 Dave In Austin

I hope Alec Baldwin wins.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:29:26pm

WUT

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:33:38pm

re: #355 Dave In Austin

Oh man. Yesterday the electrical outlet that serves my TV, DVR, soundbar and Blue ray quit. Breaker is fine, so gotta wait a week for the fix. I’m on a TV diet. Or fix it myself against the rules.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:35:41pm

Susan Collins is concerned and plans to call the White House for excuses she can use.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:36:44pm

re: #339 Chrysicat

There is a reason that the vast majority of people who still enjoy rock like Metallica and hate Megadeth. He’s a major portion of that reason, and we already knew that.

Metallica and Anthrax. The hell with megadeath.

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Semper Fi  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:37:55pm

re: #360 Rightwingconspirator

Oh man. Yesterday the electrical outlet that serves my TV, DVR, soundbar and Blue ray quit. Breaker is fine, so gotta wait a week for the fix. I’m on a TV diet. Or fix it myself against the rules.

Try extension cord to another outlet.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:39:06pm
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:40:19pm

Btw….just saw the “No Offense” comedy special on Netflix by Theo Von and I can say he takes the absolutely worst parts of Bill Maher’s dudebro sensibility and cranks up the racist/sexist asshole quotient to 11.

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:40:28pm

re: #363 Semper Fi

I might. Hoping that circuit can handle what it does now and the Tv setup.

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jaunte  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:41:15pm

re: #359 The Pie Overlord!

When he was 10?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:42:18pm
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plansbandc  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:48:36pm

re: #365 Scottish Dragon

Gross.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:52:46pm

re: #361 Dread Pirate

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Susan Collins is concerned and plans to call the White House for excuses she can use.

I hope Trump laughs in her face (assuming she actually calls).

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 6:56:46pm

JFC

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 12, 2020 • 7:00:21pm

Maybe because they DIDN’T lie under oath, or threaten witnesses? Just a thought (not that Charlie experiences actual thought)

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Dave In Austin  Feb 12, 2020 • 7:00:26pm

re: #360 Rightwingconspirator

Are you sure you’re there might be a GFI tripped at the receptacle. Little red button on the outlet.

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 12, 2020 • 7:01:47pm

re: #373 Dave In Austin

Are you sure you’re there might be a GFI tripped at the receptacle. Little red button on the outlet.

Thanks but it’s old. No GFI, although maybe the new one will be.

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PrairieQueen  Feb 12, 2020 • 7:11:02pm

re: #371 The Pie Overlord!

He’s a greasy, ratfuck, sonofabitch. Always knew the GOP were nothing but dominionist planetkillers, but this is really sad. Sadder yet, Trump’s legions of dumbfucks that are orgasmic over this ridiculous wall at any cost, all to fuck over other people.

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sagehen  Feb 12, 2020 • 7:19:48pm

re: #359 The Pie Overlord!

WUT

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Maybe when visiting Ivana’s parents?

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CleverToad  Feb 12, 2020 • 7:38:44pm

re: #355 Dave In Austin

Rachel is shit hot tonite. Get it on if you can.

Dang! My Dish Network is down — happens sometimes if there’s snow or ice blocking the signal. MSNBC isn’t letting me sign in to watch online, don’t know if that’s related to the outage.

Will have to see what sections I can see later. Which topic, the DOJ disaster?


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