A Music Video Like No Other: Anna Meredith, “Paramour”

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I literally couldn’t tear my eyes away from this video until it finished. Amazing piece of work on every level. And there are a lot of levels.

Anna Meredith announces her eagerly anticipated second studio album, FIBS, due for release on 25 October via Moshi Moshi: plctrmm.to

The album is heralded by the release of ‘Paramour’, its first single and spectacular accompanying single-take video, featuring 1200 pieces of LEGO track, and a song that forbids you from turning away - its sweeps, jerks and wrong turns pinning your ears to the speakers whilst heading for warp speed at a blistering 176 BPM before rounding the journey out with an (utterly unexpected) tuba-led half-time rock-out.

See her live around the UK in February 2020 - tickets on-sale on now at annameredith.com:
3rd - LEEDS, Belgrave Music Hall
4th - MANCHESTER, Gorilla
5th - LONDON, EartH
6th - BRISTOL, Trinity
8th - GLASGOW, Art School
9th - COVENTRY, Arts Centre
10th - BRIGHTON, Old Market

Directed by Ewan Jones Morris
Lego Master Builder, Gary Davis
Produced by Rachel McWhinney
Additional props by Chloe Lamford
Graded by Conner Coolbear at Electric Theatre Collective

Thanks to Somerset House Studios and the Somerset House Trust.

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242 comments

1
Dave In Austin  Feb 16, 2020 • 5:47:42pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2020 • 5:49:49pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 16, 2020 • 5:54:14pm
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jaunte  Feb 16, 2020 • 5:54:44pm
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jaunte  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:07:52pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:13:26pm
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Patricia Kayden  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:17:35pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:18:27pm

For those of you curious about Steve Millers new wife, here’s a photo. Looks a wee bit ethnic, doesn’t she? 🤔

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:19:07pm

To be honest, I think this might be the best music video I’ve ever seen.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:20:54pm

I know I was given heck for posting an article from WHYY about a store selling DT stuff but now WHYY has this on their site. It is a little closer to what one normally expects from public television.

whyy.org

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:21:41pm

I had to watch it again. The synchronization of the music track to the train track is incredible.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:22:26pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

For those of you curious about Steve Millers new wife, here’s a photo. Looks a wee bit ethnic, doesn’t she? 🤔

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Think about Rage Furby’s (ex-ish) wife.

But, you could show that photo to people who want to back Miller.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:24:22pm

…while thousands of children are suffering in CBP gulags.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:24:50pm

On a different topic, I am increasingly surprised at the amount of free video online, of previously broadcast/cable shows.

For example, Tubi. Lots of stuff there. And there are other providers too. All apparently legal.

As if Youtube already doesn’t have more than I could watch.

No wonder networks are so desperate to hook people into their own over-the-top services.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:24:56pm

I’m getting the impression of an OK, Go video.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:26:45pm

For example, I was pleased to find the cult classic from back in my day, A Boy And His Dog, available on Tubi:

tubitv.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:27:45pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:28:19pm

And speaking of NASCAR, its popularity has really declined substantially.

Trump is mining the old folk and those who want a nostalgia world, that includes big gas guzzling cars.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:42:29pm

re: #18 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And speaking of NASCAR, its popularity has really declined substantially.

Trump is mining the old folk and those who want a nostalgia world, that includes big gas guzzling cars.

I just find it boring to watch people drive around in circles.

/

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:44:27pm

NASCAR = National Association of Silly Cars And Racists

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:55:02pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Love to borrow that to enrage a few MAGAs on FB…

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:57:54pm

re: #17 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Looks like it won’t take 70 years for Butler to get some sort of resolution, so there’s that.

ETA: Oh, and if you believe those officers really thought he’d taken the bus hostage, I have a bridge I want to sell you.

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mmmirele  Feb 16, 2020 • 6:57:58pm

re: #18 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

And speaking of NASCAR, its popularity has really declined substantially.

Trump is mining the old folk and those who want a nostalgia world, that includes big gas guzzling cars.

When I was younger, I liked to watch Nascar as a family bonding experience. It was part of the shared experience of being white and Southern (or in my case, white and descended from Southerners). Now, it’s like Nascar is like the secular version of evangelical churches—they’ve hitched their wagon to Donald Trump and it’s disgusting. Plus I fucking DO NOT GET their playoff system. If you make it too complicated that a university educated person can’t understand it without a spreadsheet and calculator, it’s no fun.

That said, the number of cars that got wrecked yesterday in the Xfinity race was *amazing*. And the cars pretty much *fell apart*. My brother said the cars’ exteriors are now being made of fiberglass. Apparently if you don’t align the hoods JUST RIGHT, they can just peel away and lead to wrecks…

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:00:27pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m a motorsports fan and NASCAR has bored me for a while. I don’t have cable and I can’t watch most of the races (Or it rains at the track and I don’t get to watch anyway.)

I’m waiting for IndyCar and F1 seasons, but I’ll probably not get to watch many races this year.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:02:13pm

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retired cynic  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:03:41pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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retired cynic  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:05:01pm

My father had a friend who owned some cars on a local circuit in central Illinois. He and my brother used to go and enjoy it very much. My mother and I just figured it was cars going around in circles, and somebody might get hurt, and it cost money. IOW, stupid.

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:06:16pm
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Mattand  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:10:41pm

re: #10 PhillyPretzel

I know I was given heck for posting an article from WHYY about a store selling DT stuff but now WHYY has this on their site. It is a little closer to what one normally expects from public television.

whyy.org

Who was giving you shit for it? I was just disappointed in “liberal” WHYY for going down the Cletus safari path, but that’s not your fault.

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uriel  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:14:22pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

For those of you curious about Steve Millers new wife, here’s a photo. Looks a wee bit ethnic, doesn’t she? 🤔

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I used to know a nazi-skinhead who would only date Jewish girls. And when I say girls, i mean he was like 30 years old dating 14 year-olds going through their “rebellious” stage.

For some people, dating people you loath is a perverse turn on. I have absolutely no problem believing that dynamic is what’s going on with Miller. Or Chuck C. Johnson, for that matter.

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retired cynic  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:16:20pm

re: #30 uriel

Is Miller Jewish?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:17:43pm

re: #31 retired cynic

Is Miller Jewish?

Unfortunately

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uriel  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:18:07pm

re: #31 retired cynic

Actually, he is.

But I was mostly going with the “dating people you look down on” thing.

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:18:35pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:19:09pm
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jaunte  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:20:51pm
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retired cynic  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:21:04pm

re: #32 I Would Prefer Not To

re: #33 uriel

re: #35 The Pie Overlord!

That was my recollection. She looks like someone his family might have pressed him to marry. She must know what he is…

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Mattand  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:22:40pm

re: #33 uriel

Actually, he is.

But I was mostly going with the “dating people you look down on” thing.

That’s what I thought as well.

Also, if this woman has decided she wants to spend the rest of her life with a white supremacist who is a self-loathing Jewish guy, I can only imagine how inherently monstrous she is.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:28:21pm

re: #38 Mattand

That’s what I thought as well.

Also, if this woman has decided she wants to spend the rest of her life with a white supremacist who is a self-loathing Jewish guy, I can only imagine how inherently monstrous she is.

Maybe she’s planning to poison him slowly. Or dating someone she loathes is a perverse turnon for her.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:32:55pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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mmmirele  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:34:34pm

In any case, the Daytona 500 basically got rained out today and they’re going to have to run it tomorrow afternoon/evening. It would have happened with or without Trump, but still…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:36:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:37:07pm

re: #40 goddamnedfrank

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Interesting Times  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:58:15pm

re: #39 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Maybe she’s planning to poison him slowly. Or dating someone she loathes is a perverse turnon for her.

She works for Mike Pence so is, most likely, just as loathsome as her betrothed. I imagine their wedding night foreplay will consist of copious videos showing kids in cages.

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 16, 2020 • 7:59:27pm

re: #37 retired cynic

Never underestimate the calculus of someone hedging their opportunity to advance in elite society and wealth in regards to turning a blind eye (at best) towards supremacist and eliminationist behavior.

We see these people throughout history.

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jaunte  Feb 16, 2020 • 8:11:17pm

BENGHAZI !!!

The Trump administration has zeroed out of the State Department budget a request from a nonprofit entity set up in honor of J. Christopher Stevens, the U.S. ambassador killed in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012 terrorist attacks.

The agency’s fiscal 2021 budget proposal cuts $420 million from its educational and cultural programs, including $5 million for the Stevens Initiative, an organization created to memorialize the late ambassador’s dedication to cultivating international exchanges.

This appears to be at least the third time that dedicated funding for the program has been removed by Trump’s budget officials. For the past two years, Congress has restored it.
washingtonpost.com

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plansbandc  Feb 16, 2020 • 8:16:12pm

A little something about the woman we sang with…

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Belafon  Feb 16, 2020 • 8:21:34pm

re: #41 mmmirele

In any case, the Daytona 500 basically got rained out today and they’re going to have to run it tomorrow afternoon/evening. It would have happened with or without Trump, but still…

Are you really sure about that? :)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 16, 2020 • 8:22:44pm
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Dread Pirate  Feb 16, 2020 • 8:31:28pm
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cat-tikvah  Feb 16, 2020 • 8:34:37pm

re: #10 PhillyPretzel

“Like Jeremy Barnard, Richard Drawe supports Trump and is all for increasing border security — he just doesn’t want the wall on his property.”

Of course.

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Chrysicat  Feb 16, 2020 • 8:36:35pm

re: #3 Dave In Austin

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uriel  Feb 16, 2020 • 8:47:09pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 16, 2020 • 9:09:11pm
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uriel  Feb 16, 2020 • 9:40:02pm

re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

God damn, I miss that guy. Like, daily.

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thecommodore  Feb 16, 2020 • 9:43:19pm

re: #55 uriel

God damn, I miss that guy. Like, daily.

So do I. Especially after reading a cheery article like this one:

I spoke to experts on authoritarian rule about Trump’s behavior this week. They say 2020 could be our last free election

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uriel  Feb 16, 2020 • 9:56:09pm

re: #56 thecommodore

So do I. Especially after reading a cheery article like this one:

I spoke to experts on authoritarian rule about Trump’s behavior this week. They say 2020 could be our last free election

I have to say, as time goes by, I find it harder and harder to disagree…

*galactic sigh*

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Dread Pirate  Feb 16, 2020 • 9:58:31pm
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Dread Pirate  Feb 16, 2020 • 10:15:08pm
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thecommodore  Feb 16, 2020 • 10:20:42pm

The first part of this interview with Chuck Todd really struck me because of how it shows how kind and decent a man Joe Biden is, especially when he talks about Hunter, and especially about the rupture of his friendship with Lindsey Graham. He isn’t my first, second, or even third choice for the Dem nomination (1, he’s too moderate for my tastes and 2) his statement that Trump is an aberration, and that there are good Republicans out there who will work with him and bring the country together is nuts), but he is a good and honorable man, and he would be a welcome change in the White House after the monstrous indecency of Trump.

Full Biden: I Would Be ‘Most Progressive’ President In History | Meet The Press | NBC News

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 16, 2020 • 10:23:55pm

I had to find something to celebrate today.

Happy Birthday to Vernon Dent the #1 foil of The Three Stooges!

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uriel  Feb 16, 2020 • 10:30:56pm

re: #30 uriel

I used to know a nazi-skinhead who would only date Jewish girls. And when I say girls, i mean he was like 30 years old dating 14 year-olds going through their “rebellious” stage.

For some people, dating people you loath is a perverse turn on. I have absolutely no problem believing that dynamic is what’s going on with Miller. Or Chuck C. Johnson, for that matter.

Ok- in retrospect, I want to clear one thing up about this anecdote:

I knew *of* the guy. He wasn’t anyone I ever went out of my way to chat with or anything.

Totally the opposite. :-E

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William Lewis  Feb 16, 2020 • 10:42:29pm

re: #62 uriel

Aw, and here I thought you were Besties ;)

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Dread Pirate  Feb 16, 2020 • 11:09:42pm
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BigPapa  Feb 16, 2020 • 11:35:33pm

still nothing on Tele?

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 16, 2020 • 11:55:43pm

re: #65 BigPapa

still nothing on Tele?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 17, 2020 • 3:01:24am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 17, 2020 • 3:28:14am
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steve_davis  Feb 17, 2020 • 4:13:40am

re: #7 Patricia Kayden

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they are people whose lives were already shit because of bad choices they have made. the fact that they then continue to make bad choices that continue to leave them in the same shit is not particularly surprising.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:01:43am

re: #69 steve_davis

they are people whose lives were already shit because of bad choices they have made. the fact that they then continue to make bad choices that continue to leave them in the same shit is not particularly surprising.

There is little reason in their thought processes, just gut reactions.

And broadcast media focus on eliciting such reactions.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:10:19am

Johnson’s Brexity Tory government looking more and more Trumpian:

Pressure grows on Downing Street to sack controversial adviser Andrew Sabisky

The Prime Minister has been urged to remove a new adviser who went on record to support the ‘forced sterilisation of people he considers not worthy.’

[…]

Writing on the website of the PM’s chief aide in 2014 he said: “One way to get around the problems of unplanned pregnancies creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty.

“Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue.”

Mr Sabisky also tweeted “women’s sport is more comparable to the Paralympics than it is to men’s”.

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jeffreyw  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:16:03am

The cardinals go on about their business, ignoring the asshole woodpecker talking to himself at the bar.

Good morning!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:18:36am

re: #16 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

For example, I was pleased to find the cult classic from back in my day, A Boy And His Dog, available on Tubi:

tubitv.com

Fantastic post-apocalyptic movie.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:24:38am

re: #71 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Prime Minister has been urged to remove a new adviser who went on record to support the ‘forced sterilisation of people he considers not worthy.’

Make Eugenics Great Again.

Gee, what sort of class of people were subject to this in the past aside from the poor?

I know, people with disabilities such as epilepsy. At lest this douchecanoe hasn’t suggested we are “feebleminded” like conservatives here did in the past when they were stripping our rights, our outright killing us like Germany did (yet).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:27:41am

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Make Eugenics Great Again.

Gee, what sort of class of people were subject to this in the past aside from the poor?

I know, people with disabilities such as epilepsy. At lest this douchecanoe hasn’t suggested we are “feebleminded” like conservatives here did in the past when they were stripping our rights, our outright killing us like Germany did (yet).

one tenet of modern Conservatism, especially to all those fans of The Bell Curve, is that certain races lack the intellectual capacity of white people…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:28:23am

Now I know why my wife wanted to binge-watch “Dark Shadows” on Hulu.

There is a problem in Hulu doesn’t have episodes 1-200 from the first season, and is missing everything after episode 290.

For Valentines Day, she ordered the complete 131-DVD set from Dan Curtis Productions (the producer of the show), but it hasn’t arrived here yet.

The DVDs come in a coffin-shaped display box, along with DVDs interviewing the actors and a blooper reel, along with a documentary about the show.

I think she ordered it more for herself than me. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:31:54am

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

one tenet of modern Conservatism, especially to all those fans of The Bell Curve, is that certain races lack the intellectual capacity of white people…

I’m a white people.

I’m concerned about the anti-intellectual strain of extreme conservatism. In authoritarian regimes, they tend to round up the intelligentsia (usually defined as college-educated, but in some cases bizarre criteria such as wearing glasses in Cambodia).

In the USA now, they could do it by rounding up people who belong to high-IQ societies, so they can get those who didn’t go to college. Seize those lists and you have the address of every such person in the USA.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:40:35am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🎃

As I noted earlier, Tubi has some TV series for free, including…. Dark Shadows:

tubitv.com

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A Mom Anon  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:43:28am

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Steve Silberman’s book Neurotribes goes into the history of eugenics related to autism. People considered autism to be a mental illness and autistic people were treated accordingly with commitment to asylums, medical experiments, forced sterilization and basic torture. It’s a great book but the history part is sad and disgusting.

Fascists and other authoritarians first dehumanize and set people against each other. Once that takes hold, it’s very easy to rip a nation apart from the inside out.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:44:39am

Sunrise at Chez Tumbleweed.

Happy Washington’s Birthday Observed. May you have many happy returns.

Winter Weather Advisory in effect for the area, as the winter weather moves out of the Rockies and into our area.

forecast.weather.gov

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:49:22am

re: #78 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As I noted earlier, Tubi has some TV series for free, including…. Dark Shadows:

tubitv.com

Hmmm. It does look like they have the whole original series, the reboot series (we’ve seen that already), but not the movies nor the audio drama (which continues the story after the original series ends in 1971).

It turns out there are conventions of fans for the show every year (it was on the air longer than “Star Trek” and has far more episodes), either in Los Angeles or New York annually. Actors from the original series still show up like many other fan conventions, even though the show went off the air fifty years ago (god I feel old).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:50:30am

re: #79 A Mom Anon

Steve Silberman’s book Neurotribes goes into the history of eugenics related to autism. People considered autism to be a mental illness and autistic people were treated accordingly with commitment to asylums, medical experiments, forced sterilization and basic torture. It’s a great book but the history part is sad and disgusting.

Fascists and other authoritarians first dehumanize and set people against each other. Once that takes hold, it’s very easy to rip a nation apart from the inside out.

Aktion T4 The Sequel, coming to a Republican Senate near you.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:50:52am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Tubi does not have the 1966 episodes.

Amazon Prime has the 1966 episodes under a separate title: Dark Shadows, Beginnings.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:51:11am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I’m a white people.

I’m concerned about the anti-intellectual strain of extreme conservatism.

That has a long history, I assume it stems from a certain inferiority complex regarding Europe. Americans saw that they were culturally and technologically more advanced than we were, but insisted that they were morally degenerate and we had remained virtuous and pure because we were not corrupted by their effete brand of culture and intellectualism.

It took the shock of the Cold War and Sputnik to get us to start putting emphasis on education, but that was directed at certain specific goals, and a lot of that was abandoned starting with Reagan and his budget cuts, and continues to this day with Trump and Betsy DeVos.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:52:05am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Now I know why my wife wanted to binge-watch “Dark Shadows” on Hulu.

I recall watching that on TV as a kid, the only soap opera I ever followed…

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A Mom Anon  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:52:27am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That used to be on when I came home from school, I remember watching it sometimes. We weren’t allowed to watch much TV though so I never got into it much.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:52:51am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I wrote too soon. Tubi does have the 1966 episodes, but under a different title, actually same title as Amazon Prime:

tubitv.com

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:55:31am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Hmmm. It does look like they have the whole original series, the reboot series (we’ve seen that already), but not the movies nor the audio drama (which continues the story after the original series ends in 1971).

It turns out there are conventions of fans for the show every year (it was on the air longer than “Star Trek” and has far more episodes), either in Los Angeles or New York annually. Actors from the original series still show up like many other fan conventions, even though the show went off the air fifty years ago (god I feel old).

I remember getting home from school and watching it before running off with my friends. My buddy and I would catch it then head out. Of course no “recording” it in those days.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 5:59:00am

re: #79 A Mom Anon

Steve Silberman’s book Neurotribes goes into the history of eugenics related to autism. People considered autism to be a mental illness and autistic people were treated accordingly with commitment to asylums, medical experiments, forced sterilization and basic torture. It’s a great book but the history part is sad and disgusting.

Fascists and other authoritarians first dehumanize and set people against each other. Once that takes hold, it’s very easy to rip a nation apart from the inside out.

Yikes. I looked up the book on Wikipedia [the font of all human ken, citation needed]. The section on Hans Asperger was pilloried by a few book reviewers as apologia for the Nazi régime.

Dr. Manuel Casanova has also written against Silberman’s perspective that Hans Asperger, one of the first autism researchers, should be forgiven for his involvement in the Nazi regime. “Contrary to Mr. Silberman,” Casanova wrote in response, “I do not defend or condone [Asperger’s] murderous actions.”

NeuroTribes (Wikipedia)

Edith Scheffer, a modern European history scholar, wrote in 2018 that Asperger cooperated with the Nazi regime, including sending children to the Spiegelgrund clinic which participated in the euthanasia program. Scheffer wrote a book further elaborating on her research called Asperger’s Children: The Origins of Autism in Nazi Vienna (2018).

Another scholar and historian from the Medical University of Vienna, Herwig Czech concluded in a 2017 article in the journal Molecular Autism, which was published in April 2018:

Asperger managed to accommodate himself to the Nazi regime and was rewarded for his affirmations of loyalty with career opportunities. He joined several organizations affiliated with the NSDAP (although not the Nazi party itself), publicly legitimized race hygiene policies including forced sterilizations and, on several occasions, actively cooperated with the child ‘euthanasia’ program.

Hans Asperger (Wikipedia)

From the beginning of that article:

Johann “Hans” Friedrich Karl Asperger (/ˈæspɜːrɡər/, German: [hans ˈʔaspɛɐ̯ɡɐ]; 18 February 1906 - 21 October 1980) was an Austrian pediatrician, eugenicist, medical theorist, and medical professor. He is best known for his early studies on mental disorders, specifically in children. His work was largely unnoticed during his lifetime except for a few accolades in Vienna, and his studies on psychological disorders acquired world renown only posthumously. He wrote over 300 publications, mostly concerning a condition he termed autistic psychopathy (AP).

There was a resurgence of interest in his work beginning in the 1980s, and due to his earlier work on autism spectrum disorders, Asperger syndrome (AS), was named after him. Both Asperger’s original pediatric diagnosis of AP and the eponymous diagnosis of AS that was named after him several decades later have been controversial. He was involved highly in the Nazi regime and was appointed to his high position over other Jewish doctors and because he was against the Jewish people.

Not a very nice guy.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:00:32am

re: #83 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Tubi does not have the 1966 episodes.

Amazon Prime has the 1966 episodes under a separate title: Dark Shadows, Beginnings.

We’ll soon have all the episodes BWAHAHAHAHA!

I’m thinking a coffin-shaped 131-DVD box is about as large as a piece of furniture. It’s coming by US Mail, so I imagine my postmistress will deliver it directly to my house (I can’t imagine a box that size fitting in my rural mailbox).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:13:29am

re: #79 A Mom Anon

Asperger’s Syndrome was removed from the DSM-V update and added to Autism Spectrum Disorder specifically because of Dr. Hans Asperger’s association with eugenics and the Nazi Party’s programme of killing children with autism.

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:26:24am
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A Mom Anon  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:26:31am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Steve has apologized, newer editions of the book talk about the controversy. His research into Asperger didn’t delve deep enough initially. Steve is not a Nazi apologist or pro eugenics. He’s a good guy who made a big mistake. To say he’s pro Nazi is bullshit. And I stand by my statement it’s a good book. The DSM took Aspergers off their diagnosis list and changed it to Autism Spectrum Disorder because of Asperger and his Nazi connections/beliefs.

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:26:59am
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Belafon  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:27:35am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:28:07am

re: #83 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Tubi does not have the 1966 episodes.

Amazon Prime has the 1966 episodes under a separate title: Dark Shadows, Beginnings.

Hulu has 1966 episodes, but only beginning at Episode 201.

When “Dark Shadows” launched, it was a Gothic Romance soap opera. It didn’t do well in daytime ratings, and the supernatural arc of the story was added starting with Episode 201.

According to various accounts on the Internet, the reason the show was cancelled was due to a disconnect between sponsors of the show and viewers of the show.

Soap operas were primarily financed by domestic product companies, and tobacco companies. When the show took off with its supernatural arc, it became hugely popular with teenagers and pre-teens, who didn’t buy domestic products like dishsoap.

That wasn’t a problem for the show until the US Government banned cigarette advertising on television on 1 April 1970. With that, the show became unprofitable.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:32:54am

re: #95 Belafon

11th Democratic debate

This is like AOL’s “Endless September” on USENet.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:36:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:38:08am

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Soap operas were primarily financed by domestic product companies, and tobacco companies…

I recall when the Shogun was running on TV, sponsored by Procter & Gamble. Although I found the story & history fascinating, I had to give up watching because every 13 minutes it was interrupted by a Middle American family household having a domestic crisis: unpleasant odors, fading clothes colors, spots on glasses & silverware, etc., which was then promptly solved by a trusted family member, friend or neighbor recommending the corresponding P&G to banish whatever unpleasantness had arisen, and restore the family on its path towards Middle-Class Perfection…

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Targetpractice  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:43:56am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🎃

This is like AOL’s “Endless September” on USENet.

Wake me up when September ends.

/

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:44:11am
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:45:09am

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall when the Shogun was running on TV, sponsored by Procter & Gamble. Although I found the story & history fascinating, I had to give up watching because every 13 minutes it was interrupted by a Middle American family household having a domestic crisis: unpleasant odors, fading clothes colors, spots on glasses & silverware, etc., which was then promptly solved by a trusted family member, friend or neighbor recommending the corresponding P&G to banish whatever unpleasantness had arisen, and restore the family on its path towards Middle-Class Perfection…

Well, Mutual of Omaha was busy sponsoring Jim being killed in a river by an anaconda, or another Jim being trampled by a rhinoceros, or a third Jim being torn apart by a pride of lions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:45:40am

re: #101 jaunte

It’s not often you get the entire political moment summed up in one misplaced apostrophe.

It sums it up in so many ways…

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:47:05am

re: #101 jaunte

Not a federal holiday, dipweed.

If I can write a historical account of the day in an article here, surely someone in the government can fill you in.

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:47:42am

re: #100 Targetpractice

Wake me up when September ends.

/

Today is Billy Joe Armstrong’s 48th birthday.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:48:40am

Who says it’s a cult?

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:49:59am

re: #101 jaunte

Elon Musk keeps advertising his strange Bitcoin giveaway on every Trump tweet.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:51:34am

re: #93 A Mom Anon

Steve has apologized, newer editions of the book talk about the controversy. His research into Asperger didn’t delve deep enough initially. Steve is not a Nazi apologist or pro eugenics. He’s a good guy who made a big mistake. To say he’s pro Nazi is bullshit. And I stand by my statement it’s a good book. The DSM took Aspergers off their diagnosis list and changed it to Autism Spectrum Disorder because of Asperger and his Nazi connections/beliefs.

Sorry I’m late to this conversation. Ironically enough I was watching something on the Nazis. The fact is we still don’t know a ton about how ASD disorders work. I don’t see any signs my parents or any close relatives are ASD. I admittedly haven’t read the up to date research on Asperger and ASD disorders. It’s always tough because I feel like I have an invisible disability.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:51:40am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I don’t see it. They must have me in the ‘doesn’t trust Bitcoin’ database.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:53:16am

re: #106 jaunte

Who says it’s a cult?

“God bows down to Trump?” Geez, I’m an atheist and I know that violates the first commandment.

Revelation does say the antichrist will lead a bunch of Christians astray. Good thing I was never part of the flock; it makes it easy to see the problems of faith (any Pied Piper can come along).

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:55:09am

re: #109 jaunte

I don’t see it. They must have me in the ‘doesn’t trust Bitcoin’ database.

Lately, every time Trump sends a tweet I see one of these in the responses (reposting a tweet is not an endorsement from me /s)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:55:17am

re: #105 Belafon

Today is Billy Joe Armstrong’s 48th birthday.

That’s crazy. Anyhow I always thought Dookie was Green Day’s best. American Idiot I thought tried too hard to be political.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:55:28am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Sign is in Asbury Park, according to a reddit poster:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:55:47am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🎃

This is like AOL’s “Endless September” on USENet.

The debate this week will be interesting since its the first time we’ll see Bloomberg answering questions, and the other candidates I expect will be gunning for him.

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A Mom Anon  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:56:52am

re: #108 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

My son has said similar things too. It’s hard to get people who have no clue to understand that autism is a processing issue in the brain.

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:58:59am

re: #112 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

That’s crazy. Anyhow I always thought Dookie was Green Day’s best. American Idiot I thought tried too hard to be political.

They are, at their core, a punk band, and sometimes you have to write politcal music. It was definitely political. That was it’s point. Considering it was released in 2004, there was a reason it was political.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 17, 2020 • 6:59:05am

The prime age (25-54) employment ratio just hit 80.6, the highest level this century. Note its not the result of a Trump boom, but a continuation of the steady recovery after it plummeted to the lowest level in decades in the wake of the Great Recession. fred.stlouisfed.org

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:00:03am

re: #116 Belafon

They are, at their core, a punk band, and sometimes you have to write politcal music. It was definitely political. That was it’s point. Considering it was released in 2004, there was a reason it was political.

At the time, it was lauded because too few major artists were speaking out about what Bush and the Republicans were doing.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:03:45am

re: #118 Belafon

At the time, it was lauded because too few major artists were speaking out about what Bush and the Republicans were doing.

Yeah I remember. I was a senior in high school. I just thought it tried too hard rather than letting it flow out organically. I’m speaking as a music fan not a political junkie here. I think they had great intentions and I applaud them for that but I think they tried too hard IMO.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:05:23am

re: #116 Belafon

They are, at their core, a punk band, and sometimes you have to write politcal music. It was definitely political. That was it’s point. Considering it was released in 2004, there was a reason it was political.

I understand that. I’m just saying that I think there was political protest music in 2004 and I don’t think American Idiot was that. Against Me, I think really has stayed the test of time for example. I might feel better about AI if it hadn’t gotten to the point where it became a Broadway production.

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:07:02am

re: #119 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I remember. I was a senior in high school. I just thought it tried too hard rather than letting it flow out organically. I’m speaking as a music fan not a political junkie here. I think they had great intentions and I applaud them for that but I think they tried too hard IMO.

As someone who is a big fan of Queensryche’s Operation Mindcrime, Americn Idiot felt like it was also a rock opera.

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:08:49am

re: #120 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I understand that. I’m just saying that I think there was political protest music in 2004 and I don’t think American Idiot was that. Against Me, I think really has stayed the test of time for example. I might feel better about AI if it hadn’t gotten to the point where it became a Broadway production.

I once saw a documentary about Green Day, and one of the funny things was when the punk scene rejected Green Day because they became a commercial success.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:09:04am

re: #93 A Mom Anon

Steve has apologized, newer editions of the book talk about the controversy. His research into Asperger didn’t delve deep enough initially. Steve is not a Nazi apologist or pro eugenics. He’s a good guy who made a big mistake. To say he’s pro Nazi is bullshit. And I stand by my statement it’s a good book. The DSM took Aspergers off their diagnosis list and changed it to Autism Spectrum Disorder because of Asperger and his Nazi connections/beliefs.

Well, I can’t say as I haven’t read the book nor did I know the man.

I can read what was written about him, including Dr. Asperger joining pro-Nazi groups in Austria and sending children to Aktion T-4 murder sites. That’s pretty much undisputed.

Hans Asperger, National Socialism, and “race hygiene” in Nazi-era Vienna (from the peer-reviewed journal “Molecular Autism”, goes to StartPage because LGF thinks the link is a telephone number and won’t reproduce it)

New Evidence Ties Hans Asperger to Nazi Eugenics Program (Spectrum, 2018)

Pioneering autism doctor Hans Asperger sent disabled children to be killed by Nazis, new study claims (The Independent)

Experts say that the history had to be found and made public - but caution that it should cause no distress to anyone who identifies with the syndrome that took his name.

The issue is not he was able to define autism in children (which he called Autistic Psychosis, renamed Autism Disorder), but what he did with his research.

That’s why it was removed from the DSM-V and added to the broader category of Autism Spectrum Disorder in 2013: The American Psychiatric Association really didn’t want a disorder and diagnosis named after a Nazi eugenicist.

Removal of Asperger’s syndrome from the DSM V: community response to uncertainty. (Goes to NIH)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:10:04am

re: #115 A Mom Anon

My son has said similar things too. It’s hard to get people who have no clue to understand that autism is a processing issue in the brain.

It truly is a spectrum. When I’m talking what I know a good amount, I can come off confident and knowledgeable but get me flustered than my stutter comes out and frustration. I haven’t read this particular author’s work but I very much doubt he’s a Nazi sympathizer. When ASD disorders first started getting researched, I believe Dr. Asperger was seen as someone who got it and described people like me, your son, and millions of others to a tee. In fact, I remember reading that he was apparently not that different from the young men he researched as a child. They call people like me and your son “Little Professors”, I’ve had people that don’t know me very well say I should be a teacher of history. I’m always flattered as I deeply admire teachers but I think people don’t understand autism while it definitely has a role in why I have a genuine passion for history, I have a crippling shyness around strangers and it would be really hard for me to have to grade people that I would be getting to personally know. I like talking to people about history but I don’t like the idea of having to grade them. I understand obviously that grading is necessary to academia but it’s not for me.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:12:17am

re: #121 Belafon

As someone who is a big fan of Queensryche’s Operation Mindcrime, Americn Idiot felt like it was also a rock opera.

Yeah and I’ve always liked punk’s raw energy more than structure in that genre. It’s not a bad album but I felt if they had used the style that made Dookie a great album along with the times of 2004, I think AI would have had more staying power to me.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:19:55am

I’m going to bail out. Y’all enjoy your day. It’s way past rum o’clock for me.

giphy.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:32:01am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Lately, every time Trump sends a tweet I see one of these in the responses (reposting a tweet is not an endorsement from me /s)

[Embedded content]

Yeah, it’s some bot piggybacking of the popularity/notoriety of Trumps tweets. All a same as I’m sure you can guess.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:32:07am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹🎃

First link fixed because LGF thinks the link is a telephone number. Now goes to the Search Engine StartPage, the correct article is the first link after the adverts.

Off to bed. Catch y’all later.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:32:46am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Hahahahaha

“Stormtrumpers”

That is such an apt description. Blindly loyal AND hopelessly incompetent.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:34:35am
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jaunte  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:38:41am

Looks like the Bloomberg campaign is now publicizing the negative behavior of some of Bernie’s adherents. I expect they’ll redouble their efforts.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:39:33am

re: #131 jaunte

Looks like the Bloomberg campaign is now publicizing the negative behavior of some of Bernie’s adherents. I expect they’ll redouble their efforts.

Maybe they will consider stop being assholes.

Who am I kidding? HAHAHAHAHA

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:40:26am

re: #113 jaunte

Sign is in Asbury Park, according to a reddit poster:

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Apparently the sign is meant as satire mocking Trumpsters. According to another poster, the homeowner hates Trump and has posted different highly critical anti-Trump signs over the past 3 years.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 7:49:13am

re: #131 jaunte

Looks like the Bloomberg campaign is now publicizing the negative behavior of some of Bernie’s adherents. I expect they’ll redouble their efforts.

I’m no Bloomberg supporter but they should. The harassment alone of that culinary workers union alone.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:01:47am
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jaunte  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:04:54am

re: #135 The Pie Overlord!

Austin relying on that famous leftist George Wallace?

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:09:28am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:24:30am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:24:42am

EIGHT TIMES

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:27:38am

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

EIGHT TIMES

/blockquote>

Thanks Martha, and thank you Muffins, too!!!

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:28:40am

re: #135 The Pie Overlord!

I’m curious what, in this case, Kruse is referring to.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:34:34am

re: #141 Belafon

I’m curious what, in this case, Kruse is referring to.

Someone who refuses to believe that ideological realignment of southern Democrats/Dixiecrats into today’s southern Republicans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:35:20am

re: #142 Barefoot Grin

Someone who refuses to believe that ideological realignment of southern Democrats/Dixiecrats into today’s southern Republicans.

It does not fit into the narrative that the Democrats are the Party of Slavery…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:35:43am

re: #141 Belafon

I’m curious what, in this case, Kruse is referring to.

Idiots like the one pointed out by Dr. Kruse insist that there was no Southern Strategy and nobody but Strom Thurmond jumped from Democrat to Republican.

The idiot forgets about Shelby, Gramm, Deal and dozens of other local Southern Democrats who jumped to the GOP when it embraced white supremacy under Nixon, Buchanan and Colson…

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:36:21am

re: #141 Belafon

I’m curious what, in this case, Kruse is referring to.

….:

No, I’m saying you don’t know basic US history.

There were dozens of Southern Democrats who switched to the GOP.

Nixon didn’t win the Deep South in ‘68 because Wallace took it — but he won it all in ‘72.

And yes, the parties switched stances on civil rights.

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:37:47am

Thanks, everyone. Since I can’t twitter at work, I miss a lot of those details.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:38:12am

re: #145 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

And yes, the parties switched stances on civil rights.

It had more to do with the fact that it took over 100 years after the end of the Civil War for a member of the Party of Lincoln to be able to win an election in the former Confederacy…

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:39:03am

re: #141 Belafon

I’m curious what, in this case, Kruse is referring to.

then the guy doubled down and kruse brought receipts:

Can you name any other Dixiecrat other than Strom who did?

Kevin M. Kruse
Replying to
@austinruse
John Tower, Albert Watson, Jim Martin, William Cramer, Dave Treen, Edward Gurney, Iris Blitch, Bo Callaway, Bill Dickinson, Mills Godwin, WD Workman, Jesse Helms, Taylor O’Hearn, Marshall Parker, Arthur Ravenel, Jack Cox, Floyd Spence, etc etc etc

You know nothing about this.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:39:38am

This mother should call the ACLU on this incident…

A North Carolina mother is blasting law enforcement officers for their violent treatment of her son outside an emergency room during a mental health crisis. The teen is expected in court today facing four charges from the incident, including felony malicious conduct.

In surveillance video of the scene, which happened in December in Lincolnton, outside Charlotte, security guards are seen tackling the teenager. At another point, a sheriff’s deputy punches him in the head while he’s handcuffed, reports correspondent Don Dahler.

His mother, Jessica Long, told CBS’ Charlotte affiliate WBTV that security officers and law enforcement escalated the situation instead of helping her son, who’s been treated for mental illness in the past. “They did the worst; they made it worse,” Long said.

The shocking video shows the moments Long’s 16-year-old son, Hayden, was tackled to the ground and punched twice in the head. “They just immediately went for full-blown physical force,” said Long. “And these were big guys, and my son’s, what, maybe 120 pounds.”

cbsnews.com

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 8:53:45am

re: #149 Joe Bacon 🌹

This mother should call the ACLU on this incident…

A North Carolina mother is blasting law enforcement officers for their violent treatment of her son outside an emergency room during a mental health crisis. The teen is expected in court today facing four charges from the incident, including felony malicious conduct.

In surveillance video of the scene, which happened in December in Lincolnton, outside Charlotte, security guards are seen tackling the teenager. At another point, a sheriff’s deputy punches him in the head while he’s handcuffed, reports correspondent Don Dahler.

His mother, Jessica Long, told CBS’ Charlotte affiliate WBTV that security officers and law enforcement escalated the situation instead of helping her son, who’s been treated for mental illness in the past. “They did the worst; they made it worse,” Long said.

The shocking video shows the moments Long’s 16-year-old son, Hayden, was tackled to the ground and punched twice in the head. “They just immediately went for full-blown physical force,” said Long. “And these were big guys, and my son’s, what, maybe 120 pounds.”

cbsnews.com

cops at hospitals
cops at schools
these events are inevitable because they refuse to recognize the nature of the people visiting hospitals and schools

they are patients and students

the circumstances of the relationship are specific and special
except in obvious and extreme cases the first reaction should never be ‘law enforcement’

kid with a gun is not the same as ‘kid wouldnt move when i told him to’
patients can be stressed, confused, etc. thats why theyre at a hospital. being there is not criminal. medical reactions are not criminal

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:02:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:03:28am

re: #150 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

cops at hospitals
cops at schools
these events are inevitable because they refuse to recognize the nature of the people visiting hospitals and schools

they are patients and students

the circumstances of the relationship are specific and special
except in obvious and extreme cases the first reaction should never be ‘law enforcement’

cops are trained to see things in black and white - and not just in the figurative sense…

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Mike Lamb  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:05:49am

re: #148 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

then the guy doubled down and kruse brought receipts:

Immediately brings this Family Guy exchange to mind:

Brian: What’s it called?
Stewie “Susie”.
Brian: [sarcastically] Wow, a song named after a girl. There aren’t a million of those already.
Stewie: [annoyed] Name twenty!
Brian: “Rosanna”, “Roxanne”, “Michelle”, “Allison”, “Sarah”, “Angie”, “Brandy”, “Mandy”, “Gloria”, “Cecilia”, “Maggie May”, “Jessica”, “Nancy”, “Barbara Ann”, “Billie Jean”, “Layla”, “Lola”, “Polly”, “Helena”, “Jenny from the Block”.
Stewie: Name six more.
Brian: “Sherry”, “Laura”, “Wendy”, “Maria”, “Peggy Sue”, “Minnie the Moocher”.
Stewie: Name five more.
Brian: “Tracy”, “Jean”, “Jane”, “Mary Ann”, “Eleanor Rigby”.
[Short pause; Stewie then throws his guitar on the floor and walks out]
Stewie: Go fuck yourself.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:06:24am

re: #144 Joe Bacon 🌹

Idiots like the one pointed out by Dr. Kruse insist that there was no Southern Strategy and nobody but Strom Thurmond jumped from Democrat to Republican.

The idiot forgets about Shelby, Gramm, Deal and dozens of other local Southern Democrats who jumped to the GOP when it embraced white supremacy under Nixon, Buchanan and Colson…

Thurmond was just the beginning. Pretty much every Southern Republican that ran in the Civil Rights Movement was a disgruntled Democrat running to the right of the Democrats on Civil Rights. These weren’t Rockefeller Republicans or George Romney Republicans. These were people who were longtime Democrats that hated that the Democrats really starting under Truman started being a pro civil rights party.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:07:27am

re: #153 Mike Lamb

Sweet Georgia Brown…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:11:57am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sweet Georgia Brown…

Sylvia’s Mother

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:15:50am

re: #154 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The argument is so wrong it makes you wonder what purpose Republicans have by continuing to bring it up, and getting mocked for it.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:16:48am

So Barr was an asshole from childhood:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:17:02am

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sylvia’s Mother

Dancing Queen

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:18:59am

re: #153 Mike Lamb

LOL. Brian and Stewie together are the best parts of that show.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:20:28am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:21:39am

re: #157 jaunte

The argument is so wrong it makes you wonder what purpose Republicans have by continuing to bring it up, and getting mocked for it.

The great grandparents of the modern day yellow dog Republican in the deep South were yellow dog Democrats. The irony is for all the right’s contempt of so called identity politics is that their entire political success in the South on a federal level is due to it. Goldwater whether you want to label him a bigot or not for opposing CRA-1964 definitely caused more people to trust the Republican party on a federal level in the South. The question we need to ask is why and how that spread. I think Reagan’s the one that perfected it though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:23:11am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Dancing Queen

Amy (whatcha gonna do)

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Belafon  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:24:57am

re: #158 jaunte

So Barr was an asshole from childhood:

Fits right in with Miller then.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:26:27am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Amy (whatcha gonna do)

Rainy Day Women #12 & 35, Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands, Absolutely Sweet Marie, Visions of Johanna (and that’s just one album)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:27:03am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:27:19am

Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:27:53am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rainy Day Women #12 & 35, Sad Eyed Lady of the Lowlands, Absolutely Sweet Marie, Visions of Johanna (and that’s just one album)

Sweet Caroline

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:28:28am

Oh and what about Diana from Paul Anka?

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:29:24am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sweet Caroline

Sara Smile

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:30:02am

Hey Paula

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:31:33am

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey Paula

Edna

Strapped, Edna

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:34:59am

Susie Q.

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:35:56am

Mary Had A Little Lamb
–HAL

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:42:36am

Daisy

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:43:04am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Dancing Queen

Melissa
Elizabeth Reed

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:43:11am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:45:55am

re: #167 Eclectic Cyborg

Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene….

Ruby - kenny rodgers
the other Ruby - donald fagen
there’s a third Ruby i cant place the singer

and that’s before we get to thursday

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:48:42am

That’s one way to celebrate the leap year

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:51:16am

Aja
Rikki Don’t Lose that Number
Josie

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:53:05am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Daisy

Für Elise

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:55:06am

re: #150 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

cops at hospitals
cops at schools
these events are inevitable because they refuse to recognize the nature of the people visiting hospitals and schools

they are patients and students

the circumstances of the relationship are specific and special
except in obvious and extreme cases the first reaction should never be ‘law enforcement’

kid with a gun is not the same as ‘kid wouldnt move when i told him to’
patients can be stressed, confused, etc. thats why theyre at a hospital. being there is not criminal. medical reactions are not criminal

Has law enforcement training changed in some way? Is there some emphasis on establishing and enforcing a position of physical superiority immediately and perhaps not taking account of the situation and perhaps de-escalating the situation via some other method?

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:56:41am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Ivanka’s whole getup is a crime against fashion and let’s not even start on the hair!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 9:58:23am

re: #182 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Has law enforcement training changed in some way? Is there some emphasis on establishing and enforcing a position of physical superiority immediately and perhaps not taking account of the situation and perhaps de-escalating the situation via some other method?

I would say that we have come to stress quantity over quality, force over persuasion, and shooting first over asking questions later…

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danarchy  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:01:27am

re: #182 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Has law enforcement training changed in some way? Is there some emphasis on establishing and enforcing a position of physical superiority immediately and perhaps not taking account of the situation and perhaps de-escalating the situation via some other method?

I say this with no data to back it up, but I don’t think anything has changed but the reporting/social media. Used to be you would MAYBE hear about a story like this if it was local and in any given town this probably doesn’t happen all that often. Now you hear about things like this from all over the country/world so it seems to be a daily occurrence.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:01:47am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would say that we have come to stress quantity over quality, force over persuasion, and shooting first over asking questions later…

Honestly, I think what has changed is we know more about this. Viral recordings have really I think illustrated the abuses that people in our country especially PoC experience with authority figures like cops. I don’t think it appeared out of nowhere.

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William Lewis  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:02:58am

Sweet Jane
Lady Day
Caroline Says

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:03:31am

re: #185 danarchy

I say this with no data to back it up, but I don’t think anything has changed but the reporting/social media. Used to be you would MAYBE hear about a story like this if it was local and in any given town this probably doesn’t happen all that often. Now you hear about things like this from all over the country/world so it seems to be a daily occurrence.

Said it better than I could. It’s not a new problem but it is discussed more now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:04:25am

re: #186 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Honestly, I think what has changed is we know more about this. Viral recordings have really I think illustrated the abuses that people in our country especially PoC experience with authority figures like cops. I don’t think it appeared out of nowhere.

Agreed, but the problem is we now have an Administration that’s very publicly not only condoning this but ENCOURAGING IT.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:05:04am

re: #188 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Said it better than I could. It’s not a new problem but it is discussed more now.

Would we have heard about Rodney King were it not for the (pre-viral) video?

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gocart mozart  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:07:38am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:07:54am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would say that we have come to stress quantity over quality, force over persuasion, and shooting first over asking questions later ever

they look at every situation as if it must be instantly de-escalated - as if every situation would necessarily escalate.
as if every child in school who acts out is instantly going to get massively violent
or someone who’s taken to the ER for treatment because something’s obviouisly wrong is now a criminal because he cant/wont comply…

doesnt meant the hospital staff isnt at some kind of risk. just that doctors and nurses and teachers and admins used to do this years ago without the need or aid of actual police. also doesnt mean some of those situations in the past might have been over their heads. after all we didnt used to metal detect before walking into a school.

but overall imo the police in these situations are treating everyone as a potential criminal and not the special needs student, or stressed patient that they are. which again, is why they are in the building this is happening in.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:09:43am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Would we have heard about Rodney King were it not for the (pre-viral) video?

I would guess not because I don’t think he would have been believed.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:11:08am

two of my personal faves from Credence:

- Have you ever seen Lorraine?
- Who’ll Stop Lorraine?

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danarchy  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:11:26am

re: #193 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I would guess not because I don’t think he would have been believed.

The cops were acquitted, so even with video he wasn’t believed…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:12:21am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed, but the problem is we now have an Administration that’s very publicly not only condoning this but ENCOURAGING IT.

Was merely stating that the police misconduct did not start because of Trump. BLM and the reformist prosecutors/sheriffs movement is a response to decades of shit like this rather than Trump. Trump’s ascendancy meanwhile I think is also related to this since he responded with unquestioned support for LEO that get in trouble for misconduct and yes he has encouraged more abuse.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:13:13am

re: #195 danarchy

The cops were acquitted, so even with video he wasn’t believed…

I meant to be able to lodge a criminal complaint in the first place. I’m saying that without the video and just Rodney King’s word, it’s unlikely it even goes to trial. You’re right. Even with the video, they were still acquitted which is why this is an ongoing theme.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:13:41am

re: #195 danarchy

The cops were acquitted, so even with video he wasn’t believed…

That’s usually how it goes in cases like this. See also: Garner, Eric. Brown, Michael, Rice, Tamir. etc. etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:14:33am

re: #178 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Ruby - kenny rodgers
the other Ruby - donald fagen
there’s a third Ruby i cant place the singer

and that’s before we get to thursday

Ruby Tuesday

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William Lewis  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:15:56am

re: #194 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

two of my personal faves from Credence:

- Have you ever seen Lorraine?
- Who’ll Stop Lorraine?

(because I didn’t think of it :D

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:17:01am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s usually how it goes in cases like this. See also: Garner, Eric. Brown, Michael, Rice, Tamir. etc. etc.

Correct, what I was saying that without the video, I don’t even think Rodney King would have been able to file a criminal complaint even if there was visual evidence of him having been beaten and eyewitness testimony but the video tape made an indictment at least possible. The problem I think is so much of our country has an almost saint likel view of the cops. And I get that to an extent. We all properly remember the heroics of the NYPD on 9/11 in responding at Ground Zero and those guys do deserve our eternal thanks and help as they still deal with the aftermath of that. However, there still needs to be accountability. We can acknowledge cops have stressful jobs and still acknowledge that it shouldn’t be lawful or proper police behavior to beat unarmed suspects or shoot to kill people who are clearly not armed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:17:11am

Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:18:08am

Pictures of Lily

Not your typical song about a girl I concede haha.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:19:36am

re: #182 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Has law enforcement training changed in some way? Is there some emphasis on establishing and enforcing a position of physical superiority immediately and perhaps not taking account of the situation and perhaps de-escalating the situation via some other method?

Warrior Cop training, and its accompanying narrative of how police are always under threat and must respond lethally without hesitation. But more generally, the culture of law enforcement and the culture of firearm ownership have both hardened up their worldviews in which rapid, decisive violence is heroic and the world is filled with people who are a priori greater threats—guess who—that merit immediate violence. It’s not really new, it’s in line with old racist tropes about violence, but the internet has created safe spaces for cops with a certain orientation towards violence to get together and generate a shared just-so story of why they’re the Really Good Guys precisely because they beat people down. There’s also the pseudo-academic legitimization of violence…for pay, since the ideas are sold in seminars…which provides a shared lexicon and set of tropes for why this makes sense.

Mind you, that’s not the whole picture, because institutions like schools are participating in this idea that there’s no de-escalation. They might not take it to lethal force, but restraining and isolating children hard and fast is on the rise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:21:22am

Jeanie with the Light Brown Hair

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:24:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:29:00am

re: #194 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

two of my personal faves from Credence:

- Have you ever seen Lorraine?
- Who’ll Stop Lorraine?

It’s Lorraining Men

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William Lewis  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:37:36am

re: #203 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Pictures of Lily

Not your typical song about a girl I concede haha.

I always loved The Who and I remember when, as an early teen, I figured out what the song was really saying. I laughed so hard and long that day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:40:56am

re: #201 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The problem I think is so much of our country has an almost saint likel view of the cops…. We can acknowledge cops have stressful jobs and still acknowledge that it shouldn’t be lawful or proper police behavior to beat unarmed suspects or shoot to kill people who are clearly not armed.

The issue we saw in Ferguson (and many other places) is that most any DA needs to work with the local police to obtain indictments and convictions, therefore, they are hesitate to indict or convict policemen.

We need a system of outside prosecutors to counteract this clear conflict of interest.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:41:18am

re: #187 William Lewis

Caroline Says

There’s Neil Diamond’s “Sweet Caroline”, and Jefferson Starship’s “Caroline”, and Plain old Al Stewart’s “Carol”:

CAROL - AL STEWART

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:42:28am

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds

Lucille (without sky or diamonds)

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A Mom Anon  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:43:46am

re: #149 Joe Bacon 🌹

This made me cry. I am always worried about my son and the cops. He’s got really long hair, a beard(he looks like a Viking, lol) and he’s autistic. It wouldn’t take much for a southern red neck cop to decide he was an addict or criminal and we know how the story goes. He’s had traffic citations before and the cops were cool, one even figured out he was on the spectrum and gave him his card. Turns out the officer’s kid is on the spectrum as well and is about the same age. Luck. That’s all it was.

If this was my kid, eighty fucking shades of HELL would be raised. Someone would pay and some heads would roll. And how do you even begin to undo the damage? All this shit for what? I’m livid and it’s not even my kid.

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William Lewis  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:45:36am

re: #210 Eric The Fruit Bat

There’s Neil Diamond’s “Sweet Caroline”, and Jefferson Starship’s “Caroline”, and Plain old Al Stewart’s “Carol”:

[Embedded content]

Oh, yeah, that “Caroline” was at Jefferson Starship’s early 70’s peak. Dragon Fly.

Jefferson Starship - Caroline

Thank you for the reminder.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:45:56am

re: #208 William Lewis

I always loved The Who and I remember when, as an early teen, I figured out what the song was really saying. I laughed so hard and long that day.

Also by the Who, “Athena”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:46:28am

re: #214 Eventual Carrion

Also by the Who, “Athena”

The Acid Queen

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:49:11am

re: #148 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

then the guy doubled down and kruse brought receipts:

That guy is using a common, D’Souza-tested tactic - first you deny that the Southern Democrats became the Southern Republicans to get someone to respond.

Next you say, “Name one Dixiecrat besides Strom Thurmond who became Republican!”

Because the Dixiecrats were in 1948, and the Southern Strategy really didn’t start till 20 years later, a lot of the old Dixiecrats in Congress or in state governments stayed Democrats for the seniority and committee assignments. But they were succeeded in office by younger men who HAD switched parties - Trent Lott, for example.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:51:03am
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DodgerFan1988  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:51:30am

British PM Boris Johnson’s version of Stephen Miller.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:54:15am

re: #218 DodgerFan1988

British PM Boris Johnson’s version of Stephen Miller.

It just reminds us how much Brexit was fueled by flat-out racism.

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:55:18am

Lola, Layla, Gloria, Amanda (Boston and Waylon), Sue (Runaround and a Boy Named), Cindy (many—including Cindy’s Birthday)…hell, it would be easier to name songs that DON’T have a girl’s name.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:55:48am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s Lorraining Men

Purple Lorraine.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:55:56am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It just reminds us how much Brexit was fueled by flat-out racism.

Including, oddly enough, the old dislike of Eastern Europeans. As I understand it, there’s a fair amount of discrimination against Poles in the UK.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:56:14am

Venus by Shocking Blue
Venus by Frankie Avalon

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:58:15am

re: #213 William Lewis

Oh, yeah, that “Caroline” was at Jefferson Starship’s early 70’s peak. Dragon Fly.

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Thank you for the reminder.

Also Starship “Jane”

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 10:59:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:01:02am

re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White

Including, oddly enough, the old dislike of Eastern Europeans. As I understand it, there’s a fair amount of discrimination against Poles in the UK.

Especially plumbers who work weekends…

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jeffreyw  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:01:30am

Stormy Monday

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:03:51am

re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White

Including, oddly enough, the old dislike of Eastern Europeans. As I understand it, there’s a fair amount of discrimination against Poles in the UK.

While a lot of their American counterparts who are descendants of Eastern Europeans engage in the same nativism. My mom has a lot of cousins who are big Trumpers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:04:38am

I got into a discussion on FB, with a libertarian-type conservative who’s an IRL friend of New Mexico Bro (aka My Idiot Brother), who is generally able to discuss things respectfully. It was about the Electoral College and that old “We’re a republic not a democracy” wheeze.

One of his friends who joined the discussion posted something from an old Army manual, defining Republic and Democracy. I looked up the original manual, and HOLY HELL! is it racist! It’s about “How To Be A Good Citizen”, but it’s from 1928, and the intro warns that, up until 30 years previous, the US had been mostly populated with good Anglo Saxon stock, who had self-governing traditions, but that more recently immigrants had been coming from Eastern Europe, where there were no such traditions, and this was a DANGER!! to the republic!!

I scanned it. There was almost no mention of blacks, or slavery, or the civil war. It was as if America was entirely - and solely - made up of white people.

It was taken out of circulation in 1932, apparently, and mostly recalled and destroyed. But it give you some idea of the world back then. This was only a few years after “Black Wall Street” was erased in Tulsa.

It’s disturbing that this is still out there, still being quoted by otherwise intelligent people.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:08:50am

re: #227 jeffreyw

Stormy Monday

+1

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Dread Pirate  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:11:05am

The Association - Windy

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:11:37am

So, they’ve been flying Americans home in commercial 747 Freighters, using seat pallets $ bio-quarantine pods

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:13:37am

re: #174 jaunte

Mary Had A Little Lamb
–HAL

mary, mary - the monkees
(a different mary)

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jaunte  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:15:20am

re: #233 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Ave Maria
(I’ve Just met A Girl Named) Maria
Take a Letter Maria

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:19:00am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ruby Tuesday

They have great burgers! 😂

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:19:27am

re: #234 jaunte

Ave Maria
(I’ve Just met A Girl Named) Maria
Take a Letter Maria

angenlina - louis prima

angeline - gregg allman
also gregg allman - queen of hearts

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:20:04am

re: #235 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They have great burgers! 😂

Those are good burgers, Walter!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:20:14am

re: #203 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Pictures of Lily.

See below. 😁

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:24:46am

re: #232 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

So, they’ve been flying Americans home in commercial 747 Freighters, using seat pallets $ bio-quarantine pods

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Nope. I’d be dead by the time we landed. I’m uncomfortable when the window shades are down. That would freak me out. I’ll stay on the death cruise.

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:31:13am

re: #231 Dread Pirate

The Association - Windy

Mandy/Brandy, the other Brandy, Candy, Sandy.

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BeachDem  Feb 17, 2020 • 11:31:56am

re: #234 jaunte

Ave Maria
(I’ve Just met A Girl Named) Maria
Take a Letter Maria

And they call the wind Mariah

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 17, 2020 • 12:36:28pm

re: #106 jaunte

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Who says it’s a cult?

This just goes to show a dominance of the Troll Culture that defines the right wing now and this evidence that they are happy and comfortable to troll each other with over the top signs like this.

We are under the control of the Troll Culture based on rabidly malignant Narcissism. Trump is the result of this, but it has been building its base solidifying the right wing for years. Trump will also be the victim of his own trolling if/when the economy shits the bed and our enormous Federal Credit Card comes due.


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