Another Master Finger-Picker: Hwajong Kim, “The Dance of a Marionette”

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This is my new video of my second digital single album
‘The Dance Of A Marionette’

I expressed a doll tied to a thread, dancing to the music.
It seems to move happily as people control, but on the contrary, It wants to escape from the strings that control Itself and be free.
But at the end of the music, it finally fails.
I played it imagining a doll’s heart, seemingly unable to recognize its facial expression, possibly forced to dance in front of the audience, all the time.

Guitar : Gopherwood G510
Pickup : Fishman Rare Earth Blend
Mic : AKG C12VR, Schopes MK41(pair)

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:02:34pm

Brian Williams now excitedly reporting Barr’s lie about threatening to quit.

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jaunte  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:05:01pm

It’s becoming more and more difficult to watch talking heads on cable news reporting Trump’s activities from some mental no man’s land in which they feel unaffected by the corruption. At least the late night comedians act like they have some skin in the game.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:06:44pm

To continue from the last thread, the (made for tv) movie that really messed me up as a kid was Sssssss. There were a number of those movies that were kind of disturbing. There was the one with tarantulas that had William Shatner in it. There was the one where the family gets brainwashed by having their eyes forced open for a really long time.

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plansbandc  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:13:56pm

re: #1 jaunte

I’m so fucking sick of our media.

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Chrysicat  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:19:31pm
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:20:44pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:20:59pm

re: #4 plansbandc

I’m so fucking sick of our media.

They want to make this absurdity entertaining. It’s not.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:26:27pm

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

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Funny how Murdoch owning all the media he does means nothing.

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Belafon  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:30:30pm

re: #5 Chrysicat

Not quite sure you answered his question, but I let my middle son read a couple of the Incarnations. Death and Time I thought were pretty good. I never finished all of them, though.

I read Pet Semetary and The Hajj in the eighth grade. I might have read some equivalent books earlier, but I don’t remember. We didn’t have a lot of books.

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retired cynic  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:31:35pm

This needs several playings!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:33:52pm

re: #1 jaunte

Brian Williams now excitedly reporting Barr’s lie about threatening to quit.

Brian Williams back in full Pre$$titution Mode.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:35:34pm
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plansbandc  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:37:11pm

This is STFU in dog.

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Citizen K  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:37:34pm

Hey, they finally remembered she existed!…if only to bury her and buff up the guy that they’re devoting endless coverage to already despite, you know, having not won a single delegate or properly competed in a single race yet.

They’re really pushing for that self-fulfilling prophecy. And it’s seems to be sadly working as far as demoralizing all the right voters. Fuck.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:38:22pm

The whole complaining about Bloomberg thing reminds me of how they don’t care about the Mercers or Koch’s but somehow Soros is a sinister actor. Hmmm what do Soros and Bloomberg have in common that Murdoch, Mercer, & Koch don’t.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:42:03pm

re: #15 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The whole complaining about Bloomberg thing reminds me of how they don’t care about the Mercers or Koch’s but somehow Soros is a sinister actor. Hmmm what do Soros and Bloomberg have in common that Murdoch, Mercer, & Koch don’t.

Gosh, I just can’t put a finger on it...or a foreskin…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:46:18pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon 🌹

Gosh, I just can’t put a finger on it...or a foreskin…

Nah can’t be.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2020 • 8:49:56pm

The local DSA is complaining about the new ballot design for Los Angeles County where there are two columns containing all the candidates running for the Democratic nomination. They’re upset that people won’t find Bernie and that the ballot has been “deliberately designed” to reduce Bernie votes.

On my sample ballot, Bernie is at the top of the second column but Elizabeth is at the very end of that same column.

Get ready for another round of “rigged primaries” from the sore losers!

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JC1  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:01:39pm

re: #15 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The whole complaining about Bloomberg thing reminds me of how they don’t care about the Mercers or Koch’s but somehow Soros is a sinister actor. Hmmm what do Soros and Bloomberg have in common that Murdoch, Mercer, & Koch don’t.

Doubt it’s anti semitism as much as tribalism. They’re not complaining about Sheldon Adelson either.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:07:26pm

Why is Chuck Todd on tomorrows debate panel and not Rachel Maddow? Why?

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Dread Pirate  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:15:01pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:17:02pm

re: #19 JC1

Doubt it’s anti semitism as much as tribalism. They’re not complaining about Sheldon Adelson either.

Fair

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Dread Pirate  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:17:18pm

Barr update.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:18:43pm

I refuse to believe Trump will be reelected. Because if he is, I give up. I should at that point just give up on caring about politics for my own mental health.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:25:02pm

re: #23 Dread Pirate

Barr update.

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You cannot believe anything said by anyone associated with this administration. Both statements could have been true: he told associates he was thinking of resigning but he actually never had any such plans.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:33:10pm

re: #20 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Why is Chuck Todd on tomorrows debate panel and not Rachel Maddow? Why?

Watch! Todd will set up Warren the same way Russert destroyed Kucinich in 2004 with the UFO question.

Todd will toss out the Pocahantas BS and use it to try to sink Warren.

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uriel  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:45:26pm

So, I concede that twitter is largely silly, apart from an interesting post here or there, but…

100 followers! Achievement unlocked!

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:48:11pm

re: #26 Joe Bacon 🌹

Watch! Todd will set up Warren the same way Russert destroyed Kucinich in 2004 with the UFO question.

Todd will toss out the Pocahantas BS and use it to try to sink Warren.

Why does there seem to be this widespread conspiracy to eliminate Warren from contention? What is happening here? The media worked to destroy Hillary. Are they again trying to purge women from contention?

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:48:27pm

Why don’t you just crawl back under the rock from which you came and die already, George?

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uriel  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:51:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:53:01pm

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Renaissance_Man  Feb 18, 2020 • 9:56:58pm

re: #28 Hecuba’s daughter

Why does there seem to be this widespread conspiracy to eliminate Warren from contention? What is happening here? The media worked to destroy Hillary. Are they again trying to purge women from contention?

Yes.

US media stories follow a manufactured narrative. Sometimes certain individuals can take over that narrative, but by and large the narrative is determined by editorial choice. And the few people that make those choices subscribe to a certain view of American culture, which they shape deliberately through the influence of their media platforms. That culture is not one where a liberal woman can gain power.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 18, 2020 • 10:28:53pm
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Sherlock Hound  Feb 18, 2020 • 10:30:56pm

re: #29 DodgerFan1988

Get popcorn, this’ll be good!

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Dread Pirate  Feb 18, 2020 • 11:01:23pm
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Ace-o-aces  Feb 18, 2020 • 11:58:06pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 18, 2020 • 11:58:37pm

Got dragged over to that WaPo column on “empower the party elite more!” :

washingtonpost.com

If you don’t feel like burning a WaPo article on it, I’m responding to a first-order comment calling for a single nationwide primary date (actually, probably a single nationwide primary with no delegates generated) in June.

My point is that the only viable candidates this year would have been Bloomie and Bernie; MAYBE Biden and Warren could have put together the funds too.

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sagehen  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:02:03am

re: #26 Joe Bacon 🌹

Watch! Todd will set up Warren the same way Russert destroyed Kucinich in 2004 with the UFO question.

Todd will toss out the Pocahantas BS and use it to try to sink Warren.

in fairness… Kucinich did deserve to be destroyed by the UFO thing.

For dog’s sake, the man claimed to have had personal contact with extra-terrestrials. I found that totally disqualifying, without even looking at any of his policy proposals.

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sagehen  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:03:42am

re: #28 Hecuba’s daughter

Why does there seem to be this widespread conspiracy to eliminate Warren from contention? What is happening here? The media worked to destroy Hillary. Are they again trying to purge women from contention?

Because she wants to pursue anti-trust actions against both media and tech.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:08:56am

re: #2 jaunte

It’s becoming more and more difficult to watch talking heads on cable news reporting Trump’s activities from some mental no man’s land in which they feel unaffected by the corruption. At least the late night comedians act like they have some skin in the game.

Commentators like Meyers, Oliver and Colbert and Bee are the only ones I can watch. I do not laugh much, but at least I feel that in their satirical, over-the-top way, they actually have a more rational and objective approach to what is going on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:11:11am

re: #7 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They want to make this absurdity entertaining. It’s not.

Right now, they have a 24/7 Political Reality Crime Scandal Show. They have no vested interest in seeing it cancelled by disgruntled voters, even if it means subjecting our nation to four more years of economic, moral, ecological and foreign policy decline…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:12:31am

re: #21 Dread Pirate

Does Trump see Europe as next trade target after China and USMCA deals?

He sees us siding with the UK against the EU

Oceania, Eurasia, Eastasia…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:13:58am

re: #24 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I refuse to believe Trump will be reelected. Because if he is, I give up. I should at that point just give up on caring about politics for my own mental health.

I am afraid he still has a fair-to-middlin’ chance.

As it is right now, it will take decades to undo the damage (waiting for his judicial appointees to die off or retire) and if he is re-elected, I fear the damage could be irreversible…

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:31:57am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am afraid he still has a fair-to-middlin’ chance.

As it is right now, it will take decades to undo the damage (waiting for his judicial appointees to die off or retire) and if he is re-elected, I fear the damage could be irreversible…

He has a fair chance. That being said, the economic impact from the Wuhan Coronavirus is just starting to be felt.

If the situation continues to deteriorate, we could well see a global economic recession by this summer…..just in time for the 2020 elections. Just yesterday, Apple warned that it won’t be able to meet quarterly guidance due to the 2019-nCoV outbreak and manufacturers worldwide are starting to make noises that supply chains are gonna break down real soon.

That being said, I don’t doubt the Fed will engage in some pretty serious quantitative easing in order to juice the economy and that guess on my part is probably why Wall Street keeps going up and up - they think the Fed will stop at nothing to keep the party going. All of the QE in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, while understandable, has created a gigantic moral hazard. Realistically, markets should be reacting to this news. There seems to be a massive disconnect between Wall Street traders and basic economic reality - it’s more than just algorithms at play.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:36:02am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

All of the QE in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, while understandable, has created a gigantic moral hazard. Realistically, markets should be reacting to this news. There seems to be a massive disconnect between Wall Street traders and basic economic reality - it’s more than just algorithms at play.

They are all but giving money away to keep investments going.

Our system is also all about belief.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:40:53am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are all but giving money away to keep investments going.

Our system is also all about belief.

Time to fuel the helicopters and load ‘em up with bags of cash!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:46:14am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

Time to fuel the helicopters and load ‘em up with bags of cash!!

you don’t give money away to poor people, only to “job creators!”

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:50:57am

As an illustration into the evolving global economic impact of the 2019-nCoV outbreak, there’s this from the Financial Times (this is an archive version, because normally, FT is behind a paywall):

South Korea’s president warned that “emergency steps” were needed to prevent a growing crisis in the country’s China-reliant economy, as the fallout from the deadly coronavirus outbreak reverberated across the globe.

President Moon Jae-in called for “all possible measures” to support South Korea’s economy, a day after analysts said Japan was facing a technical recession with the coronavirus disrupting regional supply chains and exports.

“We should take every possible measure we can think of” to support growth, Mr Moon told a cabinet meeting on Tuesday. “The current situation is more serious than we thought . . . we need to take emergency steps in this time of emergency.”

Underlining the growing impact from the virus, Apple, the world’s most valuable tech company whose iPhone is built in China, admitted revenues would be lower than forecast because the economic disruption from the virus had “constrained” production.

archive.is

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:17:57am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

I just heard about a major electronics trade fair that was cancelled, not just out of fear of spreading Corona virus, but out of a realization that there is no point in companies presenting new products if they do not know when they will be able to deliver.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:25:50am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I just heard about a major electronics trade fair that was cancelled, not just out of fear of spreading Corona virus, but out of a realization that there is no point in companies presenting new products if they do not know if they will be able to deliver.

Here in Czech Republic, Škoda Auto is getting nervous about some Chinese-manufactured parts/components for their vehicles. They stocked up a little bit in advance of the usual Chinese New Year production halt, but now they’re growing increasingly concerned as their stockpile will run out by the end of this week and they don’t have replacements.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:11:21am

re: #50 Dr Lizardo

Here in Czech Republic, Škoda Auto is getting nervous about some Chinese-manufactured parts/components for their vehicles. They stocked up a little bit in advance of the usual Chinese New Year production halt, but now they’re growing increasingly concerned as their stockpile will run out by the end of this week and they don’t have replacements.

we are about to see how much globalization really costs.

it is all posited on instant availability

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:21:07am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we are about to see how much globalization really costs.

it is all posited on instant availability

Not just instant availability, but cost as well.

For example, I could likely never afford the desktop computer I’m using if the components weren’t made in China; that’s just a sad reality. Nor could I afford my mobile phone if weren’t (almost entirely) made in China.

Unless governments are willing to subsidize the costs to consumers for non-Chinese-made products, China is going to be the world’s factory for the foreseeable future.

And of course, there are those who would say, “Well, you don’t really need Product XYZ” - which is the same as telling people, “Well, guess you just can’t have nice things, sorry about that”.

Good luck to those folks….though I think they might find themselves a little bewildered when they find themselves the guests of honor at an impromptu “necktie party”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:31:15am

re: #52 Dr Lizardo

Not just instant availability, but cost as well.

For example, I could likely never afford the desktop computer I’m using if the components weren’t made in China; that’s just a sad reality. Nor could I afford my mobile phone if weren’t (almost entirely) made in China.

Unless governments are willing to subsidize the costs to consumers for non-Chinese-made products, China is going to be the world’s factory for the foreseeable future.

yunno, if we were competing with China entirely on wages, then I guess that would be okay, it would be our incentive to work more efficiently.

But we are doing that: the US and Europe have some of the world’s most productive workforces. So why are real wages in decline?

We are also competing with nations like China over health, safety and environmental costs, which are very low in places like China as such regulations are a lot more lax if they exist at all, and then if they are even enforced.

So not only are we shooting ourselves in the foot, we are giving those nations zero incentive to clean up their own act.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:04:51am

Thread is dead

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:08:04am

re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Thread is dead

The American Lizard contingent is probably just now waking up on the East Coast…it’s usually pretty quiet here during the morning and early afternoon hours here in Europe.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:08:04am

re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Graveyard clocked out early is seems’

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:14:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:26:54am

re: #55 Dr Lizardo

The American Lizard contingent is probably just now waking up on the East Coast…it’s usually pretty quiet here during the morning and early afternoon hours here in Europe.

Anymouse is not around, yes…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:32:00am

“… John Rood is the Pentagon’s top policy official and oversees aspects of the Pentagon’s relationship with US allies and partners. Rood was involved in certifying to Congress that Ukraine had embarked on significant reforms to justify its receipt of $250 million in security assistance. That certification undermined one of the justifications — concerns about corruption in Kiev — that some members of the Trump administration made to defend blocking aid to Ukraine. …”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:36:05am

re: #59 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

SCOOP: John Rood, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy at the Pentagon has been asked for his resignation,

Toe the line or hit the highway…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:37:07am

Trump has his highest approval rating in three years at 44.4% at 538.com. A majority still disapprove of him at 51%. My guess is that with the entire GOP and rightwing media, Romney excepted, clearing him of serious wrongdoing and an election coming up, Republican voters are putting their misgivings aside. Trump still has the worst net approval at this point of his presidency of any President since Truman, so he has a tough hill to climb to achieve reelection.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:37:48am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Toe the line or hit the highway…

The purge continues.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:43:09am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we are about to see how much globalization really costs.

it is all posited on instant availability

Yes. Any, even minor, disruption in the supply chain breaks the whole thing. Weakest link and all. The concept is solid, but reality has other plans.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:50:44am

Last night went to see a musical comedy based on The Office. It was fun, but apparently they couldn’t get an African-American actor so Stanley and Dwight never made an appearance. Questionable judgment pretending the two major African-American characters just didn’t exist, except for one reference made to Dwight.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:55:58am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

The feds have been doing QE, just calling it another name, in the repo markets.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:57:57am

re: #65 Shropshire Slasher

The feds have been doing QE, just calling it another name, in the repo markets.

You’re right - I forgot what they’re calling it, but I read about it a few weeks back.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:59:17am

re: #65 Shropshire Slasher

The feds have been doing QE, just calling it another name, in the repo markets.

we can assume that the task of the Fed under Trump is not to maintain a stable flow of money but to prop up figures that he can tout as proof of his economic accomplishments

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 19, 2020 • 5:01:38am

re: #61 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump has his highest approval rating in three years at 44.4% at 538.com. A majority still disapprove of him at 51%. My guess is that with the entire GOP and rightwing media, Romney excepted, clearing him of serious wrongdoing and an election coming up, Republican voters are putting their misgivings aside. Trump still has the worst net approval at this point of his presidency of any President since Truman, so he has a tough hill to climb to achieve reelection.

The entire right wing has not “cleared him” of anything in reality because they are not concerned with his actions at all. They could care less because they consider themselves in an active war against 98% of the world, its modernity, and the majority “liberal” population in America in particular.

The right wing in this country consider themselves soldiers in a holy war demanding absolute allegiance no matter the actions of their commander. Trump’s actions do not matter just as long as they do not diminish the red line of White Supremacism. They have told me so in no uncertain terms and they are not afraid anymore of revealing their intentions and beliefs. All you really have to do is ask them directly.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 19, 2020 • 5:01:52am

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we can assume that the task of the Fed under Trump is not to maintain a stable flow of money but to prop up figures that he can tout as proof of his economic accomplishments

The Fed has to keep the interest rates low, once low interest rates end, the spending party is over, IMHO.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 19, 2020 • 5:07:52am

Waking up this morning, I more and more get the feeling that Bernie is really messing up this election.

There is a fundamental problem with Bernie and his followers - they’re not able to accept the dangers of the effect they have as a minority in this society while trying to pretend they are a majority.

This is where election problems begin - not accepting that other people are never going to vote for you.

So a winning strategy always has to be one which goes out and looks for those who will vote for you.

And Bernie and his supporters don’t seem to realize that the US electorate is composed of a vast number of people who will never vote for someone that the talking-machines will point out supported Stalin. Whether the claim is True or not, Bernie’s long history of not engaging critically with the real world is going to haunt him.

Substantial problems exist in our society and big ones are lurking on the horizon and good leaders will always try to convince the masses that difficult choices are best made by convincing people of the sacrifices that will have to be made, and that those sacrifices need to be made for the benefit of the most people.

Trump fails at this miserably. But so does Bernie (which is why his legislative record is so empty of accomplishments.)

Trump and the GOP are relying on the bread-and-circuses approach to government, with a very heavy emphasis on circuses.

And Bernie doesn’t seem able to grasp how important it is to counter the GOP social narratives. He’s so stuck on his belief of 60+ years that if only we implemented a different economic system that would solve our problems.

But we all know that the systemic issues of racism and bigotry and hatred transcend economic divisions.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 19, 2020 • 5:08:58am

re: #69 Shropshire Slasher

The Fed has to keep the interest rates low, once low interest rates end, the spending party is over, IMHO.

With inflation remaining low, there really isn’t any justification for increasing interest rates.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 19, 2020 • 5:16:56am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 5:17:10am

re: #70 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Waking up this morning, I more and more get the feeling that Bernie is really messing up this election.

There is a fundamental problem with Bernie and his followers - they’re not able to accept the dangers of the effect they have as a minority in this society while trying to pretend they are a majority.

This is where election problems begin - not accepting that other people are never going to vote for you.

So a winning strategy always has to be one which goes out and looks for those who will vote for you.

And Bernie and his supporters don’t seem to realize that the US electorate is composed of a vast number of people who will never vote for someone that the talking-machines will point out supported Stalin. Whether the claim is True or not, Bernie’s long history of not engaging critically with the real world is going to haunt him.

Substantial problems exist in our society and big ones are lurking on the horizon and good leaders will always try to convince the masses that difficult choices are best made by convincing people of the sacrifices that will have to be made, and that those sacrifices need to be made for the benefit of the most people.

Trump fails at this miserably. But so does Bernie (which is why his legislative record is so empty of accomplishments.)

Trump and the GOP are relying on the bread-and-circuses approach to government, with a very heavy emphasis on circuses.

And Bernie doesn’t seem able to grasp how important it is to counter the GOP social narratives. He’s so stuck on his belief of 60+ years that if only we implemented a different economic system that would solve our problems.

But we all know that the systemic issues of racism and bigotry and hatred transcend economic divisions.

The irony for me is for all the talk about Revolution it’s anything but. It’s a 79 year old man’s vanity movement just like it was for Ron Paul.

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jeffreyw  Feb 19, 2020 • 5:26:03am

Good morning!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 19, 2020 • 5:28:38am

re: #74 jeffreyw

The rare appearance of the blue jay. Have the dove-gang not yet pushed them all out?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 5:54:49am

Sigh…

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 19, 2020 • 5:59:16am

I went to a smoke shop to discover that it has been replaced by an apparel store…

Clothes, but no cigar.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:01:25am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

He has a fair chance. That being said, the economic impact from the Wuhan Coronavirus is just starting to be felt.

If the situation continues to deteriorate, we could well see a global economic recession by this summer…..just in time for the 2020 elections. Just yesterday, Apple warned that it won’t be able to meet quarterly guidance due to the 2019-nCoV outbreak and manufacturers worldwide are starting to make noises that supply chains are gonna break down real soon.

That being said, I don’t doubt the Fed will engage in some pretty serious quantitative easing in order to juice the economy and that guess on my part is probably why Wall Street keeps going up and up - they think the Fed will stop at nothing to keep the party going. All of the QE in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, while understandable, has created a gigantic moral hazard. Realistically, markets should be reacting to this news. There seems to be a massive disconnect between Wall Street traders and basic economic reality - it’s more than just algorithms at play.

It’s early 1929 all over again. The crash is coming.

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:01:38am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:03:15am

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🎃

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:05:43am

re: #79 jaunte

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I don’t recognize our country anymore. I am not as pessimistic as some are about beating Trump but I am cynical about about the long game. Does that make sense?

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:08:14am

re: #81 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We have probably had Russians and Russian agents spying here since the 1800s, but the reporting is better now. It’s good to recall they’re making war on us on multiple levels.

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jeffreyw  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:08:51am

re: #75 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The rare appearance of the blue jay. Have the dove-gang not yet pushed them all out?

The doves are non-violent but their sit-ins often crowd out other patrons. Some times they try to mediate between the Crips and the Bloods.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:13:51am

re: #82 jaunte

We have probably had Russians and Russian agents spying here since the 1800s, but the reporting is better now. It’s good to recall they’re making war on us on multiple levels.

Yeah no doubt about that. Our interests aren’t the same. That’s what infuriates me about Trump’s stupid “Wouldn’t it be nice if we were friends with Russia?” We got along best with Russia, well the USSR actually during WWII and that was a marriage of convenience for both of us despite FDR’s “Uncle Joe” naivete. I’d be fine with being allies with Russia if they were democratic, respected human rights, and respected the sovereignty of their neighbors but they don’t and Putin certainly does not.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:14:20am

small apples or small pie?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:16:02am

re: #70 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Waking up this morning, I more and more get the feeling that Bernie is really messing up this election.

There is a fundamental problem with Bernie and his followers - they’re not able to accept the dangers of the effect they have as a minority in this society while trying to pretend they are a majority.

This is where election problems begin - not accepting that other people are never going to vote for you.

So a winning strategy always has to be one which goes out and looks for those who will vote for you.

And Bernie and his supporters don’t seem to realize that the US electorate is composed of a vast number of people who will never vote for someone that the talking-machines will point out supported Stalin. Whether the claim is True or not, Bernie’s long history of not engaging critically with the real world is going to haunt him.

Substantial problems exist in our society and big ones are lurking on the horizon and good leaders will always try to convince the masses that difficult choices are best made by convincing people of the sacrifices that will have to be made, and that those sacrifices need to be made for the benefit of the most people.

Trump fails at this miserably. But so does Bernie (which is why his legislative record is so empty of accomplishments.)

Trump and the GOP are relying on the bread-and-circuses approach to government, with a very heavy emphasis on circuses.

And Bernie doesn’t seem able to grasp how important it is to counter the GOP social narratives. He’s so stuck on his belief of 60+ years that if only we implemented a different economic system that would solve our problems.

But we all know that the systemic issues of racism and bigotry and hatred transcend economic divisions.

Berniebots are just as brainwashed as MAGATs. You cannot engage in a constructive dialogue. Even when you ask how Bernie will pass anything with McConnell in the driver’s seat blocking everything they still insist he will get his way.

If he gets in he will find himself in the same situation as Cuthbert Olson the agnostic Socialist California Governor elected in 1938 who was completely held in check by a Republican legislature. The EPIC movement tried three times to recall Olson because he failed to enact Sinclair’s EPIC plan for the state.

Berniebots will turn on Bernie and he’ll be lucky to last his single term.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:17:38am

re: #39 sagehen

Because she wants to pursue anti-trust actions against both media and tech.

And she is getting punished (as per usual) for stating actual policies rather than spouting platitudes. I will say that I was surprised to see what looks like a cooperative media agreement to act like she doesn’t exist in the nomination process. That she is considered a threat by the financial sector I already knew. That it extended to the media like this, I did not.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:17:44am

re: #81 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I don’t recognize our country anymore. I am not as pessimistic as some are about beating Trump but I am cynical about about the long game. Does that make sense?

We are witnessing the fall of the Modern Rome.

The iron rule of history is that all empires fall.

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Belafon  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:20:42am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:21:10am

re: #57 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Bach. Just the thing for my second cup of coffee this morning. It seems to be distressing the cat somewhat. (Chat Noir has this sort of “WTF is that?” look on his face.)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:21:35am

re: #88 Joe Bacon 🌹

Before we all get too apocalyptic (remember, I’m the pessimist around here…), let us remind ourselves that indeed a majority of Americans have negative views of Trump, and for that matter the GOP.

That Trump sits in the office is problematic.

That Trumpers are full into denial is problematic.

But more of us outside the Trump-delusion actually recognize Trump for what he is.

And that is why the 2018 elections went the way they did.

So there is hope in 2020 that as a collective we can stop Trump and his know-nothings and malicious creeps.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:22:02am

re: #88 Joe Bacon 🌹

We are witnessing the fall of the Modern Rome.

The iron rule of history is that all empires fall.

The corollary to that is new ones rise. India, Brazil, among others will be playing a much bigger role in international relations in this decade and beyond. The biggest fault I have with our current system and I say this as someone who is more economically moderate but capitalism does not begate democracy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:23:27am

re: #92 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

India is doomed. The population growth has now forced them into a kind of frenzy of what to do next. Climate change is already making things difficult but another 1C rise in temps and parts of India will be quite difficult for human habitation.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:24:21am

re: #91 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Before we all get too apocalyptic (remember, I’m the pessimist around here…), let us remind ourselves that indeed a majority of Americans have negative views of Trump, and for that matter the GOP.

That Trump sits in the office is problematic.

That Trumpers are full into denial is problematic.

But more of us outside the Trump-delusion actually recognize Trump for what he is.

And that is why the 2018 elections went the way they did.

So there is hope in 2020 that as a collective we can stop Trump and his know-nothings and malicious creeps.

That’s why I’m not totally cynical. I’ve seen a lot of the positive development in the past four years. I always worry about voter amnesia though. But the first and most important thing is beating Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:24:28am

re: #92 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The corollary to that is new ones rise. India, Brazil, among others will be playing a much bigger role in international relations in this decade and beyond. The biggest fault I have with our current system and I say this as someone who is more economically moderate but capitalism does not begate democracy.

Which is the argument I had with Milton Friedman back in the 70s when I pointed out his support of Pinochet. Friedman insisted that free markets are a key for political and social freedom. I asked where is the freedom in Chile. Friedman’s response, “Well Chile is an exception”…

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:24:28am

re: #86 Joe Bacon 🌹

Berniebots are just as brainwashed as MAGATs. You cannot engage in a constructive dialogue. Even when you ask how Bernie will pass anything with McConnell in the driver’s seat blocking everything they still insist he will get his way.

If he gets in he will find himself in the same situation as Cuthbert Olson the agnostic Socialist California Governor elected in 1938 who was completely held in check by a Republican legislature. The EPIC movement tried three times to recall Olson because he failed to enact Sinclair’s EPIC plan for the state.

Berniebots will turn on Bernie and he’ll be lucky to last his single term.

the democratic process depends upon the recognition of the legitimacy of the opposition.

statesmanship *is* compromise

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:25:25am

re: #81 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I don’t recognize our country anymore. I am not as pessimistic as some are about beating Trump but I am cynical about about the long game. Does that make sense?

again, our corporate media have no interest in seeing Trump defeated: he provides them with a 24/7 political reality crime scandal drama that is ratings gold.

they do not want to see this hit show cancelled just because some voters are disgruntled with how he is running the country into the ground

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:25:28am

re: #83 jeffreyw

Cardinals: Damn. That woodpecker had enough peanuts to get the whole Jay Gang…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:26:20am

re: #93 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

India is doomed. The population growth has now forced them into a kind of frenzy of what to do next. Climate change is already making things difficult but another 1C rise in temps and parts of India will be quite difficult for human habitation.

And that’s the problem. The climate crisis is becoming a political crisis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:27:03am

re: #88 Joe Bacon 🌹

We are witnessing the fall of the Modern Rome.

The iron rule of history is that all empires fall.

Historians will look back at September 10, 2001 as the high point of the American Empire. We recovered a bit after that in 2009 but have been in full decline since 2017…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:28:07am

re: #95 Joe Bacon 🌹

Which is the argument I had with Milton Friedman back in the 70s when I pointed out his support of Pinochet. Friedman insisted that free markets are a key for political and social freedom. I asked where is the freedom in Chile. Friedman’s response, “Well Chile is an exception”…

Argentina was free market as well. I think a lot of what the Friedmanians and Reaganites pushed was pure bigotry. Everyone loves to see Reagan telling Gorby to tear down this wall and ignoring his very real support both political and financial for the dictatorships in Latin/South America and other places. Autocracy is autocracy no matter what side of the economic game they play.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:28:22am

re: #93 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

India is doomed. The population growth has now forced them into a kind of frenzy of what to do next. Climate change is already making things difficult but another 1C rise in temps and parts of India will be quite difficult for human habitation.

They have failed to create a political or economic system that can even solve its basic problems and meet its needs, much less tap into and exploit the strengths of its people and resources.

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:28:37am
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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:29:05am

Trump Purge To Continue

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:29:46am

re: #103 jaunte

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I fucking despise these people and their gaslighting bullshit.

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Belafon  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:30:29am

re: #88 Joe Bacon 🌹

We are witnessing the fall of the Modern Rome.

The iron rule of history is that all empires fall.

We’re not Rome. We’re at best the Holy Roman Empire, the western remnants of the fall of the actual modern Roman empire, Great Britain. That makes India the Ottoman Empire.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:30:52am

Oh we’ll give you “capitalism” but we’ll do it with a strongman because you stupid Latins are too dumb to know what’s best for yourselves. Both the far left and far right never gave a shit about the people of Central and South America. Just used them as pawns in the greater Cold War game.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:34:18am

re: #89 Belafon

Yup. 2 states have voted/caucused.

And so far Buttigieg is the frontrunner by the metrics that count: delegates.

Yet who’s being treated as the frontrunner? Bernie. Weird.

Who’s being treated as the rising candidate? Bloomberg, who’s buying his way into the debates with a massive ad buy. Money talks. Bloomberg is the very kind of billionaire that the GOP positioned Trump as - “self made” business genius. In this case, Bloomberg is actually a self made business guru who is worth something like 20-30 times what Trump is worth (and Trump inherited that fortune). Bloomberg also has a very public record, and has won elected office before. Running NYC is a higher profile position than most and he represented more people and a more diverse population in NYC than in 37 of the 50 states (8.1 million).

Of course, that comes with all the scandals and problems - stop and frisk, his comments about policing, race, and other assorted views. All of that should be vetted and rightfully so.

But there’s a reason that he’s rising in the polls - he’s also willing to attack Trump early and often, and defeating Trump should be job 1. Attacking other candidates is secondary but in a crowded field, the only way to distinguish in a crowded field is to go after others, especially when the differences in policies are granular and don’t really matter when you go into a general election and still face a Senate that is GOP controlled.

Problems to address:
1. win the WH
1a. overcome media messaging (and this applies to everything from how women in the race are represented to ignoring Bernie’s health issues to minorities and who would best protect their rights while media plays their narrative games, etc.)
2. retake the Senate
3. expand control in House

Bloomberg has already said that if he doesn’t win the nomination, he’d still help Democrats downrace and WH runs. That’s what we need. We need the ad buys to help defeat Trump and the GOP. He gets that. And that’s why his support keeps growing.

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BigPapa  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:34:44am

re: #104 jaunte

Trump Purge To Continue

It def will. Will he be purged in November? That’s the only question of value now.

It’s pretty much all hands on deck at this point.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:38:17am

re: #108 lawhawk

Yup. 2 states have voted/caucused.

And so far Buttigieg is the frontrunner by the metrics that count: delegates.

Yet who’s being treated as the frontrunner? Bernie. Weird.

Who’s being treated as the rising candidate? Bloomberg, who’s buying his way into the debates with a massive ad buy. Money talks. Bloomberg is the very kind of billionaire that the GOP positioned Trump as - “self made” business genius. In this case, Bloomberg is actually a self made business guru who is worth something like 20-30 times what Trump is worth (and Trump inherited that fortune). Bloomberg also has a very public record, and has won elected office before. Running NYC is a higher profile position than most and he represented more people and a more diverse population in NYC than in 37 of the 50 states (8.1 million).

Of course, that comes with all the scandals and problems - stop and frisk, his comments about policing, race, and other assorted views. All of that should be vetted and rightfully so.

But there’s a reason that he’s rising in the polls - he’s also willing to attack Trump early and often, and defeating Trump should be job 1. Attacking other candidates is secondary but in a crowded field, the only way to distinguish in a crowded field is to go after others, especially when the differences in policies are granular and don’t really matter when you go into a general election and still face a Senate that is GOP controlled.

Problems to address:
1. win the WH
1a. overcome media messaging (and this applies to everything from how women in the race are represented to ignoring Bernie’s health issues to minorities and who would best protect their rights while media plays their narrative games, etc.)
2. retake the Senate
3. expand control in House

Bloomberg has already said that if he doesn’t win the nomination, he’d still help Democrats downrace and WH runs. That’s what we need. We need the ad buys to help defeat Trump and the GOP. He gets that. And that’s why his support keeps growing.

The media is making it about Bernie and Bloomberg. If I were the other candidates, I’d be furious. I’m hoping for some surprises this Saturday in Nevada.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:42:40am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Historians will look back at September 10, 2001 as the high point of the American Empire. We recovered a bit after that in 2009 but have been in full decline since 2017…

Actually I would point the beginning of America’s decline at October 1973 the first OPEC embargo. Statistics show that point was the beginning of the decline of the middle class.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:42:50am

re: #110 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The other candidates should be furious. Warren in particular. Nevada will be the preamble to the big contest: Super Tuesday. That will decide the campaign race.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:45:38am

re: #112 lawhawk

The other candidates should be furious. Warren in particular. Nevada will be the preamble to the big contest: Super Tuesday. That will decide the campaign race.

I know you know baseball like I do. The media is talking about this whole goddamned thing like the game’s over after a leadoff double. I’m really disappointed with how things turned out. It seems in this era you either benefit from having pre-existing name recon or $$$$. Doesn’t allow any room for candidates that fall in between the two. I’m really disappointed how the situation weakened the candidates I liked most like Harris, Castro, O’Rourke, and Booker. I mean really Tom Steyer? At least Bloomberg has an actual record to run on.

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BigPapa  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:46:00am

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

Actually I would point the beginning of America’s decline at October 1973 the first OPEC embargo. Statistics show that point was the beginning of the decline of the middle class.

Yeah, I’d like to dig into this some more some time. I see this and the separation of wage growth at the beginning of Reagan’s presidency, thought it actually started just before he took office. But the trend grew throughout his presidency.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:46:42am

re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:47:38am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:48:46am

re: #114 BigPapa

Yeah, I’d like to dig into this some more some time. I see this and the separation of wage growth at the beginning of Reagan’s presidency, thought it actually started just before he took office. But the trend grew throughout his presidency.

I’ve only really ever known the US in the post Cold War. I think we’ve made a lot of advances in my lifetime but at the same time, the reactionary ideologies that have come about in this timeline scare the shit out of me.

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BigPapa  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:48:58am

re: #116 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

That’s some Trumper Level Fuquery right there.

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sagehen  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:50:15am

re: #87 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And she is getting punished (as per usual) for stating actual policies rather than spouting platitudes. I will say that I was surprised to see what looks like a cooperative media agreement to act like she doesn’t exist in the nomination process. That she is considered a threat by the financial sector I already knew. That it extended to the media like this, I did not.

6 media conglomerates between them control almost all of broadcast, cable and newspapers.

Tech with streaming is making inroads into media; but they’re their own problem. What Sacha Baron Cohen calls “The Silicon Six”, my broker calls the FAANGs (Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google). Twitter too, but “T” doesn’t fit into the acronym.

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BigPapa  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:52:04am

re: #119 sagehen

6 media conglomerates between them control almost all of broadcast, cable and newspapers.

Tech with streaming is making inroads into media; but they’re their own problem. What Sacha Baron Cohen calls “The Silicon Six”, my broker calls the FAANGs (Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google). Twitter too, but “T” doesn’t fit into the acronym.

FATANG

(washes hands in sink, retires to library)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:53:31am

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

Actually I would point the beginning of America’s decline at October 1973 the first OPEC embargo. Statistics show that point was the beginning of the decline of the middle class.

From a purely economic point of view, yes, the oil embargo is something we had a chance to recover from but refused to do.

But 2001 saw us the victors of the Cold War and undisputed leader of the Free World, Russia was a wreck and China was only just starting to flex its economic muscle.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:53:43am

re: #114 BigPapa

Yeah, I’d like to dig into this some more some time. I see this and the separation of wage growth at the beginning of Reagan’s presidency, thought it actually started just before he took office. But the trend grew throughout his presidency.

In part it was America opting to put its head in the sand after Carter asked for austerity and some belt-tightening to deal with the energy issues.

(Oil in the US is a very weird thing. The country is a major producer with a lot of political interest centered around protecting that and associated price controls to keep the industry profitable. At the same time the country is a net oil importer and thus has an interest to keep oil prices as low as possible to help keep the economy running. And at this point oil exploration in the US is pretty much priced out for the most part.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:55:24am

re: #122 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

In part it was America opting to put its head in the sand after Carter asked for austerity and some belt-tightening to deal with the energy issues.

(Oil in the US is a very weird thing. The country is a major producer with a lot of political interest centered around protecting that and associated price controls to keep the industry profitable. At the same time the country is a net oil importer and thus has an interest to keep oil prices as low as possible to help keep the economy running. And at this point oil exploration in the US is pretty much priced out for the most part.)

And we chose to bail out Chrysler rather than just let it die a normal death which is what the Free Market is all about: unprofitable companies are supposed to fail and clear the way for better, more efficient ones.

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lizardofid  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:55:51am

re: #114 BigPapa

Yeah, I’d like to dig into this some more some time. I see this and the separation of wage growth at the beginning of Reagan’s presidency, thought it actually started just before he took office. But the trend grew throughout his presidency.

I’ve always put it right around Reagan and Stockman.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:56:38am

re: #116 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I wanted to play football when I was a freshman in high school. In hindsight, a bad idea for a lot of reasons but anyhow. We knew heart conditions ran in my family since my mom’s father had a murmur. I got my heart looked at and I got diagnosed with hypertrophic cardio myopathyahy. Cardiologist was adamant that I shouldn’t play football. I did not. If you’re not familiar with that condition, it’s the one that you read about athletes getting posthumously diagnosed with it. when they suddenly have a heart attack on the court or whatever.

Anyhow this gets back to Bernie. He’s a man who turns 80 next year and would be 80+ for his entire presidency and he’s had a heart attack. I don’t think too highly of Bloomberg but there’s a difference between an irregular heartbeat and a heart attack and Sanders would be in a stressful job especially for him since he wants to fundamentally change a lot of our government system. And he’s not the best at delegating either.

So yeah I’ve had it with how the Bernie campaign acts like the Trump campaign more than any other campaign in the Democratic race. They are dishonest. They deflect. And honestly it feels almost like they want to make Bernie into a martyr by continuing to trot him out with his known heart issues. The young people supporting Bernie are quite honestly being morons and I could be a lot meaner than that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 6:59:53am

re: #125 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Bernie’s issue will be a major matter, discussed and analyzed in detail in the media if he is the nominee, while Trump will just wave a note from his White House Physician and that will be the end of it…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:02:03am

re: #116 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Bernie: I can’t be responsible for what my supporters say on Twitter.

Bernie spokesperson: Hold my bath salts.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:03:38am

re: #126 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bernie’s issue will be a major matter, discussed and analyzed in detail in the media if he is the nominee, while Trump will just wave a note from his White House Physician and that will be the end of it…

We know that. That’s why it’s imperative that Democratic voters not help that by nominating Bernie. He’s going to be over 80 for most of his presidency for fuck sake. God, where did we go that our top answers were three guys born during WWII and I genuinely like Biden but the mid-tier Harris, Booker, Castro, Booker, Gillirband all got fucked because they weren’t promising the world, the benefit of universal name recon, and tons of money.

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lizardofid  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:03:41am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

From a purely economic point of view, yes, the oil embargo is something we had a chance to recover from but refused to do.

But 2001 saw us the victors of the Cold War and undisputed leader of the Free World, Russia was a wreck and China was only just starting to flex its economic muscle.

The thing about 2001, and all that followed, is that it was set it in motion on a total budget of a few hundred thousand dollars.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:04:03am

re: #125 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Bernie is just saying he wants to change things fundamentally. In reality, he’s relied on the status quo for decades to remain employed. He’s all talk and won’t actually do a damn thing if elected.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:05:02am

re: #127 GlutenFreeJesus

Bernie: I can’t be responsible for what my supporters say on Twitter.

Bernie spokesperson: Hold my bath salts.

Bernie is a left wing Trump at this point. I’m going to really be disappointed in our system if it comes down to him nad Trump. I don’t like a lot of the things Bloomberg did as mayor of New York but I don’t mind candidate Bloomberg as much since he’s nearly the gaslighting asshole that Sanders campaign is. That said, we could and should do better.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:05:14am

re: #130 GlutenFreeJesus

Bernie is just saying he wants to change things fundamentally. In reality, he’s relied on the status quo for decades to remain employed. He’s all talk and won’t actually do a damn thing if elected.

wont and wouldnt be able to anyway
cf: R majority senate

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:05:24am

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

Actually I would point the beginning of America’s decline at October 1973 the first OPEC embargo. Statistics show that point was the beginning of the decline of the middle class.

March 20, 1854

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:06:31am

re: #130 GlutenFreeJesus

Bernie is just saying he wants to change things fundamentally. In reality, he’s relied on the status quo for decades to remain employed. He’s all talk and won’t actually do a damn thing if elected.

Exactly. Bernie first got elected when I was 3 years old. I turn 33 this summer. He’s had plenty of opportunity to pass bills and make them laws but he’s never been interested. Seriously he’s got the worst of Ron Paul- an egotistical backbencher who thinks he’s always been right and the worst of Trump- constantly attacking and deflecting on to his oponents.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:06:37am

re: #119 sagehen

6 media conglomerates between them control almost all of broadcast, cable and newspapers.

Tech with streaming is making inroads into media; but they’re their own problem. What Sacha Baron Cohen calls “The Silicon Six”, my broker calls the FAANGs (Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google). Twitter too, but “T” doesn’t fit into the acronym.

FATANGs…

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:06:53am

re: #124 lizardofid

I’ve always put it right around Reagan and Stockman.

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To his credit, Stockman understood belatedly the fallacies of “supply-side” economics and disavowed his own program around 2010. By then the crash had happened and the slide of the middle class hastened.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:07:32am

re: #135 Joe Bacon 🌹

FATANGs…

Hey, somebody beat me to it. I love when I’m in the subway and can’t connect to the net…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:07:37am

re: #133 Dr. Matt

March 20, 1854

The Republican Party of 1854 was better than any other major party of that era. I think if you want my opinion, the trouble began when hte GOP discovered it could get the votes of whites resentful about Civil Rights and make that an issue.

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sagehen  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:09:20am

re: #136 Barefoot Grin

To his credit, Stockman understood belatedly the fallacies of “supply-side” economics and disavowed his own program around 2010. By then the crash had happened and the slide of the middle class hastened.

Bruce Bartlett went heretic in 2005.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:28:27am

re: #138 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The Republican Party of 1854 was better than any other major party of that era. I think if you want my opinion, the trouble began when hte GOP discovered it could get the votes of whites resentful about Civil Rights and make that an issue.

Almost more like “whites who were told they should be resentful about Civil Rights”.


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