The Bob Cesca Podcast: What the Eff Is This All About

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Goldstein and Bashner:

What The Eff Is This All About — NSFW! Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Trump to pardon Bernie Kerik, Michael Milken and Rod Blagojevich; The Democratic primary shovel fighting continues; John Bolton teases major revelations in his book; Trump didn’t destroy 100 percent of ISIS; The Roger Stone trial; More charges to come against Lev Parnas and other henchmen; Liberals who are circulating pro-Trump propaganda; With music by Soul Crackers and Yardsale; and more!

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:08:59am

George Zimmerman announces lawsuit against Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren for $265 million

Conservative filth really do hate earning an actual living and contributing to society. They are either living off of GOP welfare, corporate welfare, or lawsuits.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:10:46am

re: #1 Dr. Matt

George Zimmerman announces lawsuit against Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren for $265 million

Conservative filth really do hate earning an actual living and contributing to society. They are either living off of GOP welfare, corporate welfare, or lawsuits.

This is why we need a Federal SLAPP law.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:11:38am

re: #1 Dr. Matt

George Zimmerman announces lawsuit against Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren for $265 million

Conservative filth really do hate earning an actual living and contributing to society. They are either living off of GOP welfare, corporate welfare, or lawsuits.

there’s a reason everyone thinks youre a bigot, racist and white supremacist

a not guilty verdict doesnt cleanse you in any way

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Belafon  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:11:40am

re: #116 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Let them fight.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:18:20am

A rare morning thread. Cool.

I prefer Bloomberg to Bernie but I REALLY wish Klobuchar or Warren could gain some traction.

I’m so sick of the old, white guy parade.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:18:57am

No sign of a GoFundMe for George Killerman to pay for legal fees, i.e., more GOP welfare.

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:19:01am
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:21:58am

Has Trump pardoned Hunter Biden yet?

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:24:00am

re: #7 jaunte

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murphy?

the senator?

wtf?

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Belafon  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:24:58am

re: #9 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Yeah, I’m really fond of the GOP’s sudden concern that Congresspeople are talking to other countries.

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:25:26am

re: #9 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

He doesn’t know what the Logan act is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:27:50am

re: #11 jaunte

He doesn’t know what the Logan act is.

He assumes it has something to do with having adamantine blades sprout from your knuckles…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:29:01am

Cool. My maple planks are out for delivery. Looks like this is for dinner tomorrow.

Maple Planked Pork Chops with Mushrooms & Shallots

My cedar planks came in yesterday and grilled salmon is also in the near future.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:29:37am

re: #1 Dr. Matt

George Zimmerman announces lawsuit against Pete Buttigieg and Elizabeth Warren for $265 million

Conservative filth really do hate earning an actual living and contributing to society. They are either living off of GOP welfare, corporate welfare, or lawsuits.

So who is he the proxy for? He certainly isn’t paying for the lawyers out of his own pocket.

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:29:40am

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Nobody but me can talk to foreign countries.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:30:41am

re: #11 jaunte

He doesn’t know what the Logan act is.

He thinks it’s something involving using claws to dismember your enemies.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:31:33am

re: #10 Belafon

Yeah, I’m really fond of the GOP’s sudden concern that Congresspeople are talking to other countries.

Ignore a bunch of GOP Senators going to Moscow. Nothing to see here!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:32:02am

re: #16 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

He thinks it’s something involving using claws to dismember your enemies.

beat you to it by three minutes…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:32:35am

re: #14 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So who is he the proxy for? He certainly isn’t paying for the lawyers out of his own pocket.

Rebekah Mercer??????

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:32:51am

re: #13 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Cool. My maple planks are out for delivery. Looks like this is for dinner tomorrow.

Maple Planked Pork Chops with Mushrooms & Shallots

My cedar planks came in yesterday and grilled salmon is also in the near future.

i just started planking
im good for a few reps of 30 seconds

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:33:22am
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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:36:48am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:39:08am

re: #20 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

i just started planking
im good for a few reps of 30 seconds

LoL. :-)

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:41:19am
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Citizen K  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:55:40am

…so I saw that ‘Birtherism’ was trending on Twitter. While I usually don’t pay much attention to the trending, this jumped out like a gigantic Red Flag.

I braced myself for bad things. And I still came away disappointed.

Just….ugh.

And yes, the video was linked in the last thread, but the sheer fact that she was comparing this to the fucking birtherism that Obama still gets shit for is….wow. Just…fucking absolute fucking wow.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:56:10am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:56:15am

He’s got nothing. Nothing at all. Same shit over and over again.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:57:49am

re: #24 jaunte

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The Florida Democratic Party would be foolish if they don’t see Rep Demmings as a potential gubernatorial or senatorial candidate down the road. And I think Pelosi sees something in her too since she was one of the impeachment managers. She’s intelligent, well spoken, and I think could be a big part of a successful Democratic party in Florida.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:59:55am

Lost in the mix of yesterday’s pardons was that Trump pardoned Michael Milken, who was prosecuted by the SDNY.

The prosecutor? Rudy Giuliani.

Milken’s advocates, for example, included all of the above — along with Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal attorney. It was Giuliani who charged Milken with 98 felony counts, including racketeering, insider trading and securities fraud, when he served as the top federal prosecutor in New York City in 1989.

“He paid a big price, paid a very tough price,” Trump said of Milken, who was among a small group of GOP mega donors who spent Election Night 2018 at the White House, according to media reports.

Never mind that Milken’s sentence was light considering the crimes, but it again shows Trump doesn’t care about crimes when his cronies are involved, or he thinks he can personally benefit from reducing the sentences.

Trump also pardoned those who engaged in various kinds of fraud. One, Paul Pogue, was the owner of a construction company who was found guilty of underpaying his taxes. His family donated large sums to Trump’s reelection campaign. Pay - To - Play.

It’s not about justice. It’s about the benefit to Trump.

He doesn’t care about the rule of law for the same reasons.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 7:59:56am

re: #28 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I was impressed with Demings during the Trial.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:00:00am

re: #10 Belafon

Yeah, I’m really fond of the GOP’s sudden concern that Congresspeople are talking to other countries.

Maybe we should target those fuckers that spent the 4th of July in Russia with the Russian government officials?

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:01:22am

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

And for 40%+ of the population, that’s enough.

Baffle with bulkshit. It’s his brand.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:02:17am

re: #13 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Cool. My maple planks are out for delivery. Looks like this is for dinner tomorrow.

Maple Planked Pork Chops with Mushrooms & Shallots

My cedar planks came in yesterday and grilled salmon is also in the near future.

Speaking of maple. Many farmers and Amish around here are starting to gather maple sap already. Been cold nights and warm days, the sap is flowing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:02:45am

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Another thread (Giedner, behind the clicky) with a good deal of info

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:03:42am

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

I was impressed with Demings during the Trial.

Me too. All of them really impressed me in their own ways and what I love what Pelosi did with them is they’re all reflective of our party’s diversity both culturally, geographically, and ideologically.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:04:18am

re: #7 jaunte

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“illegally violated the Logan Act”

good trick, that

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:05:11am

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

“illegally violated the Logan Act”

“illegally violate” = “comply with”

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:06:05am

re: #34 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:07:49am

re: #29 lawhawk

Lost in the mix of yesterday’s pardons was that Trump pardoned Michael Milken, who was prosecuted by the SDNY.

The prosecutor? Rudy Giuliani.

Never mind that Milken’s sentence was light considering the crimes, but it again shows Trump doesn’t care about crimes when his cronies are involved, or he thinks he can personally benefit from reducing the sentences.

Trump also pardoned those who engaged in various kinds of fraud. One, Paul Pogue, was the owner of a construction company who was found guilty of underpaying his taxes. His family donated large sums to Trump’s reelection campaign. Pay - To - Play.

It’s not about justice. It’s about the benefit to Trump.

He doesn’t care about the rule of law for the same reasons.

And this is why people are disappointed about Kamala Harris’s treatment by the political class on and off social media. I don’t consider myself “tough on crime” in the sense that I want to impose harsh sentences on drug dealers and I even oppose the death penalty in nearly every circumstance (war criminals are my exception) but hell yeah I think going after political corruption is something we should do and political corruption along with racism defines Trumpism. And Kamala I think would have articulated the case against that the best of anyone running. She’s free to do whatever she wants but I’d love to see her on the ticket. My dream ticket was Harris-O’Rourke or Castro. I loved the idea of a California-Texas duo who are relatively young.

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:07:57am

Trump-“I’m actually, I guess, the chief law enforcement officer of the country,”
Anyone who agrees needs to stop claiming respect for the constitution and democracy itself.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:08:23am

re: #38 lawhawk

That’s behind the clicky ;-)

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Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:09:09am

re: #25 Citizen K

…so I saw that ‘Birtherism’ was trending on Twitter. While I usually don’t pay much attention to the trending, this jumped out like a gigantic Red Flag.

I braced myself for bad things. And I still came away disappointed.

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Just….ugh.

And yes, the video was linked in the last thread, but the sheer fact that she was comparing this to the fucking birtherism that Obama still gets shit for is….wow. Just…fucking absolute fucking wow.

They really wanna go with “birtherism” as their hill to die upon? Because Obama (i.e. that guy Berners all now universally hate) went the extra mile and personally flew to Hawaii to get a copy of his birth certificate on the campaign trail. He didn’t just have a lawyer drop a letter to the press saying his boss was totally a citizen and there was no reason to look deeper.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:09:49am

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

“illegally violated the Logan Act”

good trick, that

Yean curious choice of words. The funny thing is if anyone violated the Logan Act, it was likely Rudy and definitely not Murphy. Murphy is a Senator, he is an official member of hte US government, Rudy? He’s Trump’s lawyer. America’s mayor blah blah, the man is Michael Cohen’s successor. He’s who Trump gets to do his dirty work.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:11:32am

ps - that’s one creepy picture up top

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:12:42am

re: #40 Rightwingconspirator

Trump-“I’m actually, I guess, the chief law enforcement officer of the country,”
Anyone who agrees needs to stop claiming respect for the constitution and democracy itself.

I’m waiting for him to say members of the armed forces report to him personally. And the subsequent “Oh that’s okay.” Everyday Trump shows us that he is an autocrat in his mindset. Trump claimed there’s not a racist bone in his body. He’s shown us the past four years that there’s not a democratic bone in his body.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:13:25am

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

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He’s got nothing. Nothing at all. Same shit over and over again.

today im the oldest ive ever been in history
by far

heck, that’s not even tweet worthy

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:13:27am

(spit)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:13:43am

re: #42 Targetpractice

They really wanna go with “birtherism” as their hill to die upon? Because Obama (i.e. that guy Berners all now universally hate) went the extra mile and personally flew to Hawaii to get a copy of his birth certificate on the campaign trail. He didn’t just have a lawyer drop a letter to the press saying his boss was totally a citizen and there was no reason to look deeper.

Birtherism is a cornerstone of RWNJ doctrine and no True Conservative doubts that Obama is not actually a Kenyan with a forged birth certificate and a fabricated past…

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:14:51am

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

“illegally violated the Logan Act”

good trick, that

see my ‘small apple pie’ above

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:15:30am

re: #40 Rightwingconspirator

Trump-“I’m actually, I guess, the chief law enforcement officer of the country,”
Anyone who agrees needs to stop claiming respect for the constitution and democracy itself.

ps, you ‘guess’ wrong

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:16:34am

re: #45 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m waiting for him to say members of the armed forces report to him personally. And the subsequent “Oh that’s okay.” Everyday Trump shows us that he thinks he is an autocrat in his mindset. Trump claimed there’s not a racist bone in his body. He’s shown us the past four years that there’s not a democratic bone in his body.

im holding out hope

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:17:52am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Birtherism is a cornerstone of RWNJ doctrine and no True Conservative doubts that Obama is not actually a Kenyan with a forged birth certificate and a fabricated past…

We know that. All of us remember Trump being a Birther. That has nothing to do with Bernie’s press secretary who works for a guy who wanted to primary Obama in 2012 and whose surrogates openly disdain the Obama coalition. That’s what TP is talking about here. Can you actually look at the internal Democratic politics rather than giving us what the RWNJs will say? We all know what they believe.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:18:01am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Birtherism is a cornerstone of RWNJ doctrine and no True Conservative doubts that Obama is not actually a Kenyan with a forged birth certificate and a fabricated past…

see, everyone does it

“no one doubts obama is not…..”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:19:52am

re: #51 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

im holding out hope

IMO the only thing keeping him from going full autocratic are the institutions he can’t control. Look at the individuals and parts of government he goes after the most. They’re ones he can’t control by rage tweets. And I think that’s why McConnell has facilitated him stacking the judiciary and why although I know it is extremely unlikely, I can’t see SCOTUS being increased even though I do want revenge for Garland.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:22:43am

re: #53 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

see, everyone does it

“no one doubts obama is not…..”

The fact of the matter is this. We elected the loudest voice that thought our previous President wasn’t a natural born citizen. Someone whose ties to the United States are in fact longer than Trump’s. It would basically be if we went from having Lincoln to someone who thought the South was morally justified in seceding. Andrew Johnson was an awful President but even he wasn’t that bridge a too far.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:26:19am

re: #52 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We know that. All of us remember Trump being a Birther. That has nothing to do with Bernie’s press secretary who works for a guy who wanted to primary Obama in 2012 and whose surrogates openly disdain the Obama coalition. That’s what TP is talking about here. Can you actually look at the internal Democratic politics rather than giving us what the RWNJs will say? We all know what they believe.

It is amazing that the Democrats do not even need the GOP, they are ratfucking themselves.

The RWNJs of course insist that it was Hillary who initiated birtherism…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:27:16am

Fun fact: No one has ever been convicted under the Logan Act and only two people have been indicted (in 1802 and 1852).

It has been on the books since 1799.

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retired cynic  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:28:22am

Stopića Cave, ROŽANSTVO, SERBIA
Through the colossal entrance to this cave you’ll find limestone tubs and an underground waterfall.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:29:59am

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Fun fact: No one has ever been convicted under the Logan Act and only two people have been indicted (in 1802 and 1852).

It has been on the books since 1799.

Makes it all the more disturbing that Trump is trying to incite criminal proceedings against Senator Murphy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:32:28am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is amazing that the Democrats do not even need the GOP, they are ratfucking themselves.

The RWNJs of course insist that it was Hillary who initiated birtherism…

Or it could be this one campaign that likes to ratfuck a party that their candidate’s not even a member of. The RWNJs can do all they fucking want. The whole country knows why Trump’s political profile rose in the Obama years. They may be in denial about it and think they convinced themselves that Trump was the outsider they wanted but they really were a bunch of resentful assholes who couldn’t accept the changing demographics of country being reflected in first an African-American President and then a Woman President. And that’s really what’s been happening hte past decade. It’s why old white farts like Trump, Bernie, Ron Paul, and others have the niche appeal they have had.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:33:03am

re: #58 retired cynic

Stopića Cave, ROŽANSTVO, SERBIA
Through the colossal entrance to this cave you’ll find limestone tubs and an underground waterfall.

Way cool!

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:33:39am
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Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:34:50am

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Fun fact: No one has ever been convicted under the Logan Act and only two people have been indicted (in 1802 and 1852).

It has been on the books since 1799.

Biggest part of that is the simple reality that talking to a foreign national, even if a member of a foreign government, is not the same as conducting diplomacy. There’s really two reasons why Faux is “reporting” and Trump is repeating this horseshit:

1. They desperately want a Democrat or liberal to be charged with violating the Logan Act as a measure of “revenge” for the prosecution of Mike Flynn

2. They’re also trying to come up with some reason why Trump’s “diplomacy” with Iran has been a total bust that doesn’t mean acknowledging that “maximum pressure” was a mistake and the diplomats who said so were right.

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stpaulbear  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:35:40am

re: #47 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

(spit)

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A book that can go on the shelf next to OJ Simpson’s “If I Did It”’

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:35:46am

If Trump was so concerned about economic anxiety? Why didn’t he do development projects in what his sycophants call “forgotten America” Why does Trump spend all his time in gaudy hotels and resorts when he could have with regular people? Trump at his core was a rejection of what Obama represented. It wasn’t some bullshit about how people were fed up with teh status quo. It was a rejection of the America that our skin color or gender should not preclude us from being presidential material and as a result we elected the most unqualified individual ever nominated by a major party to be President.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:36:20am

re: #55 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The fact of the matter is this. We elected the loudest voice that thought our previous President wasn’t a natural born citizen. Someone whose ties to the United States are in fact longer than Trump’s. It would basically be if we went from having Lincoln to someone who thought the South was morally justified in seceding. Andrew Johnson was an awful President but even he wasn’t that bridge a too far.

sorry, i was going with the unintentional double negative like “illegally violated”

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:38:48am

Oh look. WW3 is starting up and Trump’s decision to pull out of Syria of course has nothing to do with any of this.

yahoo.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:39:29am

re: #66 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

sorry, i was going with the unintentional double negative like “illegally violated”

I think by illegally violated, it’s Trumpsoeak for not doing it in a way that benefited him (Trump). Certainly we know that Trump had no problem with what Cotton did to undermine the Iran deal. I dunno. There’s a part of me that thinks Trump is dumb as a Big Mac left in the sun and another part of me that sees some Machiavellianness to what he’s doing. I think the latter is more the more shrewd ones like Pompeo, Barr, Miller, and others doing their thing though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:39:35am

re: #60 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

…The whole country knows why Trump’s political profile rose in the Obama years. They may be in denial about it and think they convinced themselves that Trump was the outsider they wanted but they really were a bunch of resentful assholes who couldn’t accept the changing demographics of country being reflected in first an African-American President and then a Woman President.

I grew up in the Industrial Midwest during the heyday of the White Working Man, and lots of those well-paid employees were full-on racists back then - without any trace of “economic anxiety” to fuel it…that has changed little.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:39:50am

re: #65 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

If Trump was so concerned about economic anxiety? Why didn’t he do development projects in what his sycophants call “forgotten America” Why does Trump spend all his time in gaudy hotels and resorts when he could have with regular people? Trump at his core was a rejection of what Obama represented. It wasn’t some bullshit about how people were fed up with teh status quo. It was a rejection of the America that our skin color or gender should not preclude us from being presidential material and as a result we elected the most unqualified individual ever nominated by a major party to be President.

Because it was always lip service. He doesn’t care about any of it unless he can personally profit and benefit from it.

Everyone is a mark/con for one of his grifts, and even the criminal justice reform was done so that he could gain votes down the road from the people he thinks will suddenly vote for him because he did that bill.

We’re still awaiting his infrastructure week, to go along with his DOA Middle East peace plan, and his DOA tax cut vaporware effort ahead of the election (repeat of 2018), and his DOA health care vaporware.

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Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:40:24am

re: #47 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

(spit)

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So basically he’s pulling a Kevin Spacey: “Yeah, I crimed, but I’m gay so this is really a case of bigotry!”

FFS, he up and admits he violated the ROE by ordering troops to fire on men they A) could not identify B) he could not see and C) had no reason to suspect were “suicide bombers”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:40:40am

re: #67 Florida Panhandler

Oh look. WW3 is starting up and Trump’s decision to pull out of Syria of course has nothing to do with any of this.

yahoo.com

And Trump of course will oppose any refugees in this country and we will repeat one of the things that FDR rightfully is getting more scrutiny in the annals of history on.

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stpaulbear  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:41:44am

re: #62 jaunte

If Jack was anything other than fascist-friendly, he would shut down Trump’s account.

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Chrysicat  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:45:12am

Strange time for a Cesca podcast to get posted;

also,

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:46:00am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I grew up in the Industrial Midwest during the heyday of the White Working Man, and lots of those well-paid employees were full-on racists back then - without any trace of “economic anxiety” to fuel it…that has changed little.

That’s pretty much what I said. It wasn’t economic resentment. It was social resentment. It was hearing Spanish spoken where only English was spoken in their childhoods even though many of them would have had parents or grandparents that spoke heavily accented English or even not English all. It was hearing African-American activists say that unarmed people who get killed by cops aren’t thugs but human beings deserving of justice. It’s easy to buy the narrative that Trump rose due to economic anxiousness but it’s really a lie.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:46:30am

re: #70 lawhawk

Because it was always lip service. He doesn’t care about any of it unless he can personally profit and benefit from it.

Everyone is a mark/con for one of his grifts, and even the criminal justice reform was done so that he could gain votes down the road from the people he thinks will suddenly vote for him because he did that bill.

We’re still awaiting his infrastructure week, to go along with his DOA Middle East peace plan, and his DOA tax cut vaporware effort ahead of the election (repeat of 2018), and his DOA health care vaporware.

Exactly.

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Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:47:20am

re: #70 lawhawk

Because it was always lip service. He doesn’t care about any of it unless he can personally profit and benefit from it.

Everyone is a mark/con for one of his grifts, and even the criminal justice reform was done so that he could gain votes down the road from the people he thinks will suddenly vote for him because he did that bill.

We’re still awaiting his infrastructure week, to go along with his DOA Middle East peace plan, and his DOA tax cut vaporware effort ahead of the election (repeat of 2018), and his DOA health care vaporware.

And in that usual way history has of repeating itself, we’re now in the midst of the second election where the woman candidate who has actual detailed plans (Hillary in ‘16, Warren in ‘20) have been blackballed by the media, while the old white men who talk a lot about “ideas” but can’t put any of them forward (Bernie & Trump) are treated as totally credible rather than as the bullshit artists they really are.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:50:21am

re: #77 Targetpractice

And in that usual way history has of repeating itself, we’re now in the midst of the second election where the woman candidate who has actual detailed plans (Hillary in ‘16, Warren in ‘20) have been blackballed by the media, while the old white men who talk a lot about “ideas” but can’t put any of them forward (Bernie & Trump) are treated as totally credible rather than as the bullshit artists they really are.

I really hope I never see a seventy year old+ white man who has been part of the system for years run as an outsider. Trump isn’t an outsider. Bernie isn’t one either. Neither were Ross Perot and Ron Paul for that matter. The real outsiders are those who represent a change of how American presidents see themselves. It’s why Obama is infinitely more revolutionary in the truest sense of the word than Bernie ever was. Bernie is just the old socialist dinosaur and Trump’s an old fascist dinosaur.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:53:05am

re: #77 Targetpractice

And in that usual way history has of repeating itself, we’re now in the midst of the second election where the woman candidate who has actual detailed plans (Hillary in ‘16, Warren in ‘20) have been blackballed by the media, while the old white men who talk a lot about “ideas” but can’t put any of them forward (Bernie & Trump) are treated as totally credible rather than as the bullshit artists they really are.

I wonder what would happen if Biden dropped out and started campaigning with Warren?

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BigPapa  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:54:08am

re: #59 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Makes it all the more disturbing that Trump is trying to incite criminal proceedings against Senator Murphy.

What’s amazing is how fast common right wing tropes are being destroyed.

‘Chicago Democrat corruption’ is a very common canard: Trump just pardoned Blago yesterday, not one peep about it.

Logan Act defense trope was ‘it’s an old law never enforced’ yet now it’s trending against Murphy. This is doubly asinine because Trumpers, while still private citizens, were acting as government emissaries engaging with other governments, while Murphy is actually a Senator with the actual power to engage with other governments.
Make that triple asinine: remember Tom Cotton and other senators writing a letter to Iran?

The whole malice vs ignorance vector doesn’t matter, these cretins are cancer.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:55:02am

re: #75 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

That’s pretty much what I said. It wasn’t economic resentment. It was social resentment. …

My mom was a widow so we could not afford to join the White Flight to the suburbs, I stayed and grew up with the blacks and Latinos and all the people the white working class learned to despise and found out that they were decent neighbors just like anyone else.

I recall the hype over Hillbilly Elegy, but one aspect of it seemed accurate: the Appalachian whites who showed up in the 60’s were an ethnic group unto their own, white but not quite like the Central/Eastern European-immigrant whites or the WASP whites in our neighborhood

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:55:40am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I grew up in the Industrial Midwest during the heyday of the White Working Man, and lots of those well-paid employees were full-on racists back then - without any trace of “economic anxiety” to fuel it…that has changed little.

Sure do remember the racism and segregation in the Ambridge PA I grew up in!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:56:09am

re: #80 BigPapa

What’s amazing is how fast common right wing tropes are being destroyed so fast.

‘Chicago Democrat corruption’ is a very common canard: Trump just pardoned Blago yesterday, not one peep about it.

Logan Act defense trope was ‘it’s an old law never enforced’ yet now it’s trending against Murphy. This is doubly asinine because Trumpers, while still private citizens, were acting as government emissaries engaging with other governments, while Murphy is actually a Senator with the actual power to engage with other governments.
Make that triple asinine: remember Tom Cotton and other senators writing a letter to Iran?

The whole malice vs ignorance vector doesn’t matter, these cretins are cancer.

Hell Obama being from the same city made him guilty by association even though Obama was always involved in the reform efforts within CHicago politics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:56:34am

re: #78 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I really hope I never see a seventy year old+ white man who has been part of the system for years run as an outsider. Trump isn’t an outsider. Bernie isn’t one either. Neither were Ross Perot and Ron Paul for that matter. T

All that matters is if they can sell themselves successfully as outsiders to people who are fed up with politicians and politics as usual.

That is what allowed Trump to get away with gaffes that would have ruined the campaign or even the career of any other professional politician.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 8:58:46am

re: #82 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sure do remember the racism and segregation in the Ambridge PA I grew up in!

And I think what Bernie dishonestly has fueled with alot of young people is this idea that white working class people started trending Republican for other reasons. A Democratic candidate hasn’t won the white male vote with over 50% of the vote since 1964. It wasn’t a coincidence that after that, the GOP doubled down on white identity and male identity. I’m not someone who would have supported the pre Southern Strategy GOP but the GOP became a party of white resentment starting with that aftermath and later male resentment.

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Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:01:14am

I’m posting this with a “consider the source” caveat:

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BigPapa  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:01:20am

I see birtherism trending and it’s case in point why cult of personality poltics are such a turn off. I can’t do Leftist Tea Party.

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:01:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:02:18am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:03:56am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All that matters is if they can sell themselves successfully as outsiders to people who are fed up with politicians and politics as usual.

That is what allowed Trump to get away with gaffes that would have ruined the campaign or even the career of any other professional politician.

And I’m asking what it is about our culture that make these political fossils inspire cult like devotion Why does a man like Trump who never shown any civic interest in his life before 2016 get seen as presidential material. Why do two backbenchers like Bernie and Ron Paul who despite being in Congress for eons get treated like crusading outsiders. Bernie, Ron Paul, and Trump are all the same shitty coin. A snake oil salesman who promises radical change but has no political skills at all.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:05:02am

re: #87 BigPapa

I see birtherism trending and it’s case in point why cult of personality poltics are such a turn off. I can’t do Leftist Tea Party.

Bernie really is leftist Trump and Ron Paul. I just can’t with this shit. It’s like people forgot that we elect a President every four years ago rather than a big mouthed asshole.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:07:07am

Fact is I think many Americans want simple answers to complex problems and that’s why I think cult of personalities have developed in the past decade. They’ve always been there. Ross Perot, George Wallace, and others. However, I think the internet amplifies these CoPs.

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BigPapa  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:07:51am

re: #91 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Bernie really is leftist Trump and Ron Paul. I just can’t with this shit. It’s like people forgot that we elect a President every four years ago rather than a big mouthed asshole.

I heard ‘Leftist Tea Party’ and I can’t argue. I recall a time, many decades ago, when I thought ‘there’s no way the this Orange Idiot gets elected, the GOP won’t have a POTUS for a generation’ and now here we are. Which means rules have changed dramatically, fast, and nobody knows where the bottom is.

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Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:07:53am

re: #88 jaunte

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He asks for “resignations” because he’s too scared of actually facing the people he’s firing. He “fires” them via tweets, via phone calls, or has his henchmen take letters to them, but he never directly meets with those he wants gone. Like so much else about him, the reality of him as a coward is totally at odds with the “reality TV” image his wingnut followers love to worship.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:08:38am

A lot of Bernie folks are like “the Democrats promised us cake and only delivered pie, so I hate them and am going to side with the guy who ate everyone’s dessert.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:08:43am

re: #94 Targetpractice

He asks for “resignations” because he’s too scared of actually facing the people he’s firing. He “fires” them via tweets, via phone calls, or has his henchmen take letters to them, but he never directly meets with those he wants gone. Like so much else about him, the reality of him as a coward is totally at odds with the “reality TV” image his wingnut followers love to worship.

Bully mentality. All talk, no walk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:08:48am

re: #92 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Fact is I think many Americans want simple answers to complex problems and that’s why I think cult of personalities have developed in the past decade. They’ve always been there. Ross Perot, George Wallace, and others. However, I think the internet amplifies these CoPs.

Populism.

Populism is not an ideology, we have seen socialist as well as fascist populists on our political landscape.

But it is a matter of offering simple “common sense” answers that appeal to people’s distrust of “elites”.

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Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:09:27am

re: #92 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Fact is I think many Americans want simple answers to complex problems and that’s why I think cult of personalities have developed in the past decade. They’ve always been there. Ross Perot, George Wallace, and others. However, I think the internet amplifies these CoPs.

They want simple answers because those simple answers often don’t involve any effort or contribution on their part. It’s always something or someone else who will shoulder the effort while they reap all the rewards.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:09:46am

re: #94 Targetpractice

He asks for “resignations” because he’s too scared of actually facing the people he’s firing. He “fires” them via tweets, via phone calls, or has his henchmen take letters to them, but he never directly meets with those he wants gone. Like so much else about him, the reality of him as a coward is totally at odds with the “reality TV” image his wingnut followers love to worship.

He’s a fake tough guy. He sold himself as this “tough boss” on The Apprentice but it was just a sham. Trump is quite honestly the biggest moral coward that has ever served as the American President. No one comes close.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:10:31am

re: #95 Barefoot Grin

A lot of Bernie folks are like “the Democrats promised us cake and only delivered pie, so I hate them and am going to side with the guy who ate everyone’s dessert.”

That’s because Trump told them that Warren and Biden were going to take their one cookie they got out of the dozen.
//

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:11:03am

re: #90 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And I’m asking what it is about our culture that make these political fossils inspire cult like devotion Why does a man like Trump who never shown any civic interest in his life before 2016 get seen as presidential material. Why do two backbenchers like Bernie and Ron Paul who despite being in Congress for eons get treated like crusading outsiders. Bernie, Ron Paul, and Trump are all the same shitty coin. A snake oil salesman who promises radical change but has no political skills at all.

they each have demonstrated some political electoral savvy

what they dont have is any governing or statesmanship skills

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:11:09am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Populism.

Populism is not an ideology, we have seen socialist as well as fascist populists on our political landscape.

But it is a matter of offering simple “common sense” answers that appeal to people’s distrust of “elites”.

Because thinking about consequences, fairness, and justice is hard.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:11:22am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Populism.

Populism is not an ideology, we have seen socialist as well as fascist populists on our political landscape.

But it is a matter of offering simple “common sense” answers that appeal to people’s distrust of “elites”.

Right and I’m talking about how that’s grown in recent years. We’ve always had populists going back to our earliest days but in the past, we saw the limits of populism left and right. Populism isn’t all bad I concede. I think it’s not radical at all to say corporations have too much power or the federal government. The problem is the politics of resentment and it’s almost always white resentment.

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Targetpractice  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:11:40am

re: #99 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s a fake tough guy. He sold himself as this “tough boss” on The Apprentice but it was just a sham. Trump is quite honestly the biggest moral coward that has ever served as the American President. No one comes close.

99.9% of “reality TV” is a total sham, either scripted ahead of time or carefully edited after all the footage is in to create a scenario that bears little resemblance to reality. And that .01% of the time? It’s something spontaneous that the producers left in because it helped the narrative.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:12:16am

re: #92 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Fact is I think many Americans want simple answers to complex problems and that’s why I think cult of personalities have developed in the past decade. They’ve always been there. Ross Perot, George Wallace, and others. However, I think the internet amplifies these CoPs.

qft

and if someone does promise, it doesnt matter
- whether they acstually can deliver
- do in fact deliver
- or apparently, even fleece you in the process

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:12:50am

re: #93 BigPapa

I heard ‘Leftist Tea Party’ and I can’t argue. I recall a time, many decades ago, when I thought ‘there’s no way the this Orange Idiot gets elected, the GOP won’t have a POTUS for a generation’ and now here we are. Which means rules have changed dramatically, fast, and nobody knows where the bottom is.

TBH they’ve in a way disillusioned me about the left. I really though we were smarter than this but Bernie and his surrogates seem eager to prove me wrong. Bernie’s run two of the most alienating left wing campaigns that I have ever seen.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:13:10am

re: #104 Targetpractice

99.9% of “reality TV” is a total sham, either scripted ahead of time or carefully edited after all the footage is in to create a scenario that bears little resemblance to reality. And that .01% of the time? It’s something spontaneous that the producers left in because it helped the narrative.

Exactly.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:13:55am

re: #105 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

qft

and if someone does promise, it doesnt matter
- whether they acstually can deliver
- do in fact deliver
- or apparently, even fleece you in the process

Obama gets sold by nutbars on the left and right as a disappointment. I don’t know what the hell was expected of him but I think he delivered in a lot of ways.

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BigPapa  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:18:57am

Just for once, I’d like a resignation letter to read:

‘I resign. You’re a traitor and I hope you rot in prison, your name forever tarnished by the stain of corruption.’

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:19:47am

And now for something completely different…

Pig Papa, are you still here?

The cruise ship will be stopping in Hilo for a day, as usual, and I’ve done (I think) all the standard tourist stuff. I see there’s the Mokupapapa Discovery Center, which is new to me. Is it worth the visit?

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William Lewis  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:20:47am

So in a fit of nostalgia for film, I was trolling on EPrey the other day. The results arrived in this mornings mail:

Nikon N90s film camera. Towards the end of film, can still use all the lenses I have though VR doesn’t work and DX’s have funny black corners :D Still it should be fun to fart with again - not to mention I still have 4+ year old mixed Diafine developer that may still be good. Ah, experiments!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:23:19am

re: #103 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Right and I’m talking about how that’s grown in recent years.

I am sure it related to the decline in the level and standards of public education and the growth of unregulated media corporations.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:23:34am

re: #104 Targetpractice

I love the DIY shows, but all of them are scripted too, right down to the smash cuts where there are issues discovered, and the solution presents itself. Even the home buying shows work the same way. There’s nothing real about any of it.

I think of those shows as ways to get ideas on what to do, but not necessarily how to do the stuff.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:25:21am

re: #109 BigPapa

Just for once, I’d like a resignation letter to read:

‘I resign. You’re a traitor and I hope you rot in prison, your name forever tarnished by the stain of corruption.’

“Fire me. I dare you.”

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:26:44am

re: #106 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

TBH they’ve in a way disillusioned me about the left. I really though we were smarter than this but Bernie and his surrogates seem eager to prove me wrong. Bernie’s run two of the most alienating left wing campaigns that I have ever seen.

A person is smart.

People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:28:43am

re: #115 lawhawk

What’s the catch?

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BeachDem  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:29:07am

re: #64 stpaulbear

A book that can go on the shelf next to OJ Simpson’s “If I Did It”’

And impressive that they misspelled his name on the cover—I’m sure it’s a literary masterpiece!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:29:18am

re: #115 lawhawk

A person is smart.

People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.

a lot of America still believes that the post-war nuclear family with dad as the sole breadwinner and mom at home with their 2.5 kids in a detached suburban house is the social ideal we should aspire to

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:29:20am

re: #115 lawhawk

A person is smart.

People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.

It’s been years since I’ve seen the movie but did they imply that Trump was a secret alien too? I’m remembering the scene where K shows J the TV monitors when they’re monitoring the known aliens and some famous names show up. Really clever movie. I enjoyed it as a kid.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:29:22am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:30:12am

re: #115 lawhawk

….Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat…

I really don’t like the propagation of this myth. The Greeks knew the earth was a sphere; other cultures with demonstrated knowledge of the seasons knew it before the Greeks…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:31:18am

re: #74 Chrysicat

Strange time for a Cesca podcast to get posted;

also,

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:31:36am

re: #121 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I really don’t like the propagation of this myth. The Greeks knew the earth was a sphere; other cultures with demonstrated knowledge of the seasons knew it before the Greeks…

Psst it’s a movie line. Not meant to be taken literally word for word.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:32:43am

re: #123 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Psst it’s a movie line. Not meant to be taken literally word for word.

my bad :o

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:33:01am

re: #120 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

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I don’t like the idea of Bloomberg as a nominee but I love the idea of him trolling Trump.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:33:14am

re: #121 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I really don’t like the propagation of this myth. The Greeks knew the earth was a sphere; other cultures with demonstrated knowledge of the seasons knew it before the Greeks…

For the medieval European view of the earth, see Dante.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:33:36am

re: #124 Colère Tueur de Lapin

my bad :o

All good. It is hard for me to believe that movie will be 23 years old this summer.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:35:38am

re: #86 Targetpractice

I’m posting this with a “consider the source” caveat:

Always a consideration when the rats turn on each other, as I devoutly hope they will do en masse in the near future.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:36:28am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall the hype over Hillbilly Elegy, but one aspect of it seemed accurate: the Appalachian whites who showed up in the 60’s were an ethnic group unto their own, white but not quite like the Central/Eastern European-immigrant whites or the WASP whites in our neighborhood

I grew in an Ohio River rust-belt town in the 1950s. I never heard the N word, but Pollack, Spic, Dago, and a lot more nasty things were heard. Now, many of those Dago, Spic, and Pollack kids in those categories I grew up with are Trumpers in their seventies.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:38:05am

re: #116 jaunte

This is the last good movie Will Smith was in? /half

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:38:10am
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BigPapa  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:38:41am

re: #110 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

And now for something completely different…

Pig Papa, are you still here?

The cruise ship will be stopping in Hilo for a day, as usual, and I’ve done (I think) all the standard tourist stuff. I see there’s the Mokupapapa Discovery Center, which is new to me. Is it worth the visit?

I can’t say, I haven’t been to it. I’m on the other side but go to Hilo quite regular for family stuff. If I was going touristy I’d go there, probably the Pacific Tsunami museum, then eat at Cafe Pesto or Jackie Rey’s.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:40:46am

re: #129 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I grew in an Ohio River rust-belt town in the 1950s. I never heard the N word, but Pollack, Spic, Dago, and a lot more nasty things were heard. Now, many of those Dago, Spic, and Pollack kids in those categories I grew up with are Trumpers in their seventies.

I look at the names of some of the alt right big names and they’re ethnic names. They’re the descendants of people who would have been told that they weren’t “really white” and now they believe this stupid white nationalism that has emerged. It wasn’t PoC telling my white ethnic ancestors that they could never assimilate. It was other white people. This isn’t to say “fuck white people” but rather “No Richard Spencer just because we’re both white doesn’t mean I will ever make common cause with you.” Ethnic is outdated anyhow. People descended from nearly every country and ethnic group on the planet have come here.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:42:50am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:43:33am

Love this entire feed!

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sagehen  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:44:38am

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Always a consideration when the rats turn on each other, as I devoutly hope they will do en masse in the near future.

even if Assange is telling the truth about this visit/offer… doesn’t mean Rohrbacher was telling the truth.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:45:33am

re: #86 Targetpractice

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:45:35am

re: #132 BigPapa

I can’t say, I haven’t been to it. I’m on the other side but go to Hilo quite regular for family stuff. If I was going touristy I’d go there, probably the Pacific Tsunami museum, then eat at Cafe Pesto or Jackie Rey’s.

Thanks. I’ve been to the Pacific Tsunami museum, also Logan House, and was looking at Cafe Pesto (they had me at the word pesto).

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:47:59am

re: #129 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I grew in an Ohio River rust-belt town in the 1950s. I never heard the N word, but Pollack, Spic, Dago, and a lot more nasty things were heard. Now, many of those Dago, Spic, and Pollack kids in those categories I grew up with are Trumpers in their seventies.

For some reason this reminds me of my great-aunt and uncle taking a European tour in the 70s. They had run into a lot of money, sold their farm or something, and heard that the European tour was one of the things you had to do when you had money. So off they went. When they got back, my great aunt said that France is “kind of nice,” but “It-lee was sorta’ run down. It was more like Old Mexico.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:48:09am

re: #137 lawhawk

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Get a Rohrabacher out, get a Gaetz in. That’s the thing. If the GOP retakes the House, Jim Jordan will be chairing the Judiciary Committee.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:51:48am

re: #135 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

O. M. G.

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sagehen  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:55:53am

re: #141 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

O. M. G.

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booties to protect their little paws from the snow is silly; but if they’re going to be on sidewalks or the road, they need it to protect them from salt.

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makeitstop  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:56:48am

re: #59 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Makes it all the more disturbing that Trump is trying to incite criminal proceedings against Senator Murphy.

Conway should be indicted for it before Murphy. She ran roughshod over that law last election.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 9:57:21am

re: #141 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

A Flying Corgi Appears

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:00:47am

pathetic

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:01:02am

With the BernieDolts invoking Birtherism, it’s safe to say that Bernie and his campaign are once again trying to elect Donnie. I despise conspiracy theories like the rest of us, but he’s undermining the Left and the Democratic Party…..as usual. I don’t think this is an accident either.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:01:38am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

pathetic

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OFFS.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:02:17am

Julian is batshit crazy, so I take this with a grain of salt:

Julian Assange says he was promised a Trump pardon if he would lie about Russia’s DNC hacking

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:02:31am

re: #133 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I look at the names of some of the alt right big names and they’re ethnic names. They’re the descendants of people who would have been told that they weren’t “really white” and now they believe this stupid white nationalism that has emerged. It wasn’t PoC telling my white ethnic ancestors that they could never assimilate. It was other white people. This isn’t to say “fuck white people” but rather “No Richard Spencer just because we’re both white doesn’t mean I will ever make common cause with you.”

The Jewish Trumpers who are family and friends don’t see any comparison with what happened with Jewish refugees on the St. Louis and the immigrants at the Southern border. They would all have supported Hitler in the 1930’s if Hitler had the same agenda but the target was a different ethnic group. And they believe Trump was a brilliant businessman.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:02:55am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:03:41am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

pathetic

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“Internal REAL polls”

In other words, shit his aides are just making up.

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garzooma  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:04:09am

re: #148 Dr. Matt

Julian is batshit crazy, so I take this with a grain of salt:

Julian Assange says he was promised a Trump pardon if he would lie about Russia’s DNC hacking

Hasn’t Assange claimed all along that he didn’t get the stolen DNC material from Russia?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:05:31am

re: #146 Dr. Matt

With the BernieDolts invoking Birtherism, it’s safe to say that Bernie and his campaign are once again trying to elect Donnie. I despise conspiracy theories like the rest of us, but he’s undermining the Left and the Democratic Party…..as usual. I don’t think this is an accident either.

It reinforces my notion that there are more people who want to see Bernie nominated than want to see him actually elected…

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makeitstop  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:06:24am

Check it out, Gun Girl finally got what she took all those trips to NYC for - a hit on Fox News.

And she’s no less an idiot for it.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:06:30am

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

What a fucking idiot….he was CAUGHT trying to sell the Senate seat. What a fucking dolt.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:08:21am

re: #154 makeitstop

Check it out, Gun Girl finally got what she took all those trips to NYC for - a hit on Fox News.

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And she’s no less an idiot for it.

She’s only famous because she complained she couldn’t open carry at her graduation. She’s a fraud.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:10:24am

re: #154 makeitstop

Check it out, Gun Girl finally got what she took all those trips to NYC for - a hit on Fox News.

And she’s no less an idiot for it.

This clueless little fool doesn’t realize the legacy she has created for herself. She is forever unemployable by any legitimate and mainstream company.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:10:41am

re: #156 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

She’s only famous because she complained she couldn’t open carry at her graduation. She’s a fraud.

Grifting is all that most of these young Trumpsters can do — they don’t have any skills to land themselves a real job.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:11:44am

re: #158 Hecuba’s daughter

Grifting is all that most of these young Trumpsters can do — they don’t have any skills to land themselves a real job.

They could but it wouldn’t pay as well. Most so called influencers are garbage people imo.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:12:20am

re: #157 Dr. Matt

This clueless little fool doesn’t realize the legacy she has created for herself. She is forever unemployable by any legitimate and mainstream company.

Yep and once she’s not young and pretty anymore…

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:12:21am

re: #157 Dr. Matt

This clueless little fool doesn’t realize the legacy she has created for herself. She is forever unemployable by any legitimate and mainstream company.

As we have seen, there’s money to be made grifting to the far right fringe. We saw Dana Loesch do it. We’re seeing Loomer do it. And now gun girl.

But this is fertile ground, especially if you’re involved in the religious right like the Jimmy Bakkers of the world.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:12:34am

re: #159 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They could but it wouldn’t pay as well. Most so called influencers are garbage people imo.

Carnival Barkers of the Digital Age…

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:13:15am

re: #158 Hecuba’s daughter

Grifting is all that most of these young Trumpsters can do — they don’t have any skills to land themselves a real job.

Social Media Infulencer for the forever p*ssed off.

It will be interesting to see what becomes of this weird crowd when the shine wears off.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:13:23am

re: #146 Dr. Matt

With the BernieDolts invoking Birtherism, it’s safe to say that Bernie and his campaign are once again trying to elect Donnie. I despise conspiracy theories like the rest of us, but he’s undermining the Left and the Democratic Party…..as usual. I don’t think this is an accident either.

Is this trending on Twitter, or is it real? Asking because I haven’t heard a thing about it…

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Interesting Times  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:13:46am

o.O

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Dread Pirate  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:14:29am
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makeitstop  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:15:19am

re: #157 Dr. Matt

This clueless little fool doesn’t realize the legacy she has created for herself. She is forever unemployable by any legitimate and mainstream company.

Someone tweeted something to that effect yesterday - that people like her and Loomer have pretty much destroyed their futures without even realizing it.

And in the ‘lookist’ atmosphere that Fox News has constructed, the grifting opportunities are available to those who spend a lot of dough on cosmetic surgery (Lahren) while being unavailable to those who don’t or can’t.

I can’t really say I can muster up too much sympathy for them, though. Something something made their beds…

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:15:22am

re: #149 Hecuba’s daughter

The Jewish Trumpers who are family and friends don’t see any comparison with what happened with Jewish refugees on the St. Louis and the immigrants at the Southern border. They would all have supported Hitler in the 1930’s if Hitler had the same agenda but the target was a different ethnic group. And they believe Trump was a brilliant businessman.

Don’t leave out BUT HE SUPPORTS ISRAEL!!!!! not to mention JARED & IVANKA!!!!!!!!

GGGAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!1!!!!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:15:27am
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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:16:38am

re: #168 The Pie Overlord!

Don’t leave out BUT HE SUPPORTS ISRAEL!!!!! not to mention JARED & IVANKA!!!!!!!!

GGGAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!1!!!!

With friends like those, who needs enemies?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:17:00am

re: #164 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Is this trending on Twitter, or is it real? Asking because I haven’t heard a thing about it…

It’s real. One his spokescritters equated asking for Bernie’s med records is akin to Birtherism.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:17:14am

re: #169 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Yes, how terrible that we expect a man who will turn 80 years old the first year of his presidency who is known to have a heart attack to be transparent about his health. Bernie and his team are fucking charlatans.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:17:47am

Bloomberg has an ambitious decarbonization plan, that doesn’t require legislation that likely can’t pass. vox.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:20:03am

re: #173 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The problem with executive orders is that the next President can undo them.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:20:13am

re: #173 NO SMOCKING GUN!

A significant part of that plan means reinstating the Obama path and expanding on it to go after not only remaining coal fired energy generating plants, but natural gas plants as well. Convince energy suppliers to rely on alt-energy sources, rather than natgas (or coal).

Couple that with ambition plan to aid HVAC and home/business energy efficiencies.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:20:14am

re: #127 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

All good. It is hard for me to believe that movie will be 23 years old this summer.

thats what they want us to believe

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:21:44am

re: #174 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yes, they can be undone, but when there’s no action from Congress, it’s the next best step.

The article also suggests that whoever takes over after Trump should flood the zone with as many EOs and changes as possible instead of trying an incremental change, because it’s impossible to keep up.

Even the courts can’t stop all of it.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:23:02am

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:23:07am

re: #148 Dr. Matt

Julian is batshit crazy, so I take this with a grain of salt:

Julian Assange says he was promised a Trump pardon if he would lie about Russia’s DNC hacking

You mean the guy who exploited Seth Rich’s death?

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:23:37am

re: #150 Charles Johnson

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don thinks comey was always head of the fbi

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Dread Pirate  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:23:39am
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William Lewis  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:24:43am

I believe there are a number of Harry Turtledove fans here? If you are and aren’t aware of it, he had a new short posted today at tor.com - tor.com

It’s called Manuscript Tradition and is a very Turtledove kind of tale.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:24:45am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:25:37am

re: #183 Charles Johnson

LMFAO at them trying to come at you with Gateway Pundit.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:26:09am

re: #161 lawhawk

As we have seen, there’s money to be made grifting to the far right fringe. We saw Dana Loesch do it. We’re seeing Loomer do it. And now gun girl.

But this is fertile ground, especially if you’re involved in the religious right like the Jimmy Bakkers of the world.

dana loesch is selling hawking a powder of beet extract in tv commercials (superbeets)

doesnt that string of words say it all?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:26:50am

re: #180 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

don thinks comey was always head of the fbi

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He was literally convicted of doing just that and I had to deal with stupid Republicans acting like because Blago and Obama were both from Illinois, it made Obama guilty too. This is all so stupid even for Donnie Do-nothing. Really please Donald, please make Blago one of your surrogates when you run for re-election on how you drained the swamp and you surround yourself with crooks.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:26:59am

re: #157 Dr. Matt

This clueless little fool doesn’t realize the legacy she has created for herself. She is forever unemployable by any legitimate and mainstream company.

Im sure Robert Mercer is paying her bills.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:27:35am

re: #178 b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)

Pardons are only for those who can somehow benefit Trump personally.

Can Trump enrich his campaign or his personal coffers? If yes, then you get a pardon.
Can Trump count on any additional voters going for him? If yes, then you get a pardon.

Those are his motivations. Justice is irrelevant and has nothing to do with any of these pardons.

As with all the other Trump pardons, it’s about Trump. It’s what the pardon does to help Trump. Does he energize his base (Arpaio, D’Souza)? Does he profit? Does he potentially gain voters or proxies who will tout Trump on basis of pardon?

That’s it.

The administration of justice is irrelevant. If he thought justice matters, he’d have commuted a shit-ton of drug convictions for nonviolent offenders that were racially discriminatory (think crack/cocaine sentencing differences based on who were investigated and prosecuted), etc. But that’s not entering into it, because deep down, Trump remains a racist and wont undo those sentences, but rather those of the right (white) kind of people.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:28:31am

re: #166 Dread Pirate

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if this whole assange / Rohrabacher thing is true it’s another QPQ an in fact it’s selling a pardon

pretty sure that’s not allowed, right?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:28:35am

re: #187 Joe Bacon 🌹

Im sure Robert Mercer is paying her bills.

Someone’s paid for her to go to New York City and trash it and its people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:30:41am

re: #189 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

if this whole assange / Rohrabacher thing is true it’s another QPQ an in fact it’s selling a pardon

pretty sure that’s not allowed, right?

In Trumpland, EVERYTHING is allowed.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:32:09am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:32:20am

re: #174 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The problem with executive orders is that the next President can undo them.

By then the energy utilities will have already changed their plans. Despite its repeal by Trump, Obama’s CPP has already achieved its 2030 goal for reduced carbon emissions.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:33:00am

Court rules that poll taxes are still illegal!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:35:20am

re: #178 b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)

Go on Fox News if you want a pardon!

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:35:38am

re: #194 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yeah, it’s getting appealed to the full 11th circuit. The state is arguing that it’d present an undue burden on them should they have to comply with the law.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:36:01am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Go on Fox News if you want a pardon!

it says a lot for how the ‘president’ gets what little information he gets

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:36:01am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Throw $200k at Trump’s campaign and you’re guaranteed a pardon.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:36:03am

re: #194 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Court rules that poll taxes are still illegal!

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Correction; the ruling only applies to those who show an “inability to pay.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:36:58am

re: #196 lawhawk

Yeah, it’s getting appealed to the full 11th circuit. The state is arguing that it’d present an undue burden on them should they have to comply with the law.

Its a terrible burden to let people vote.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:37:28am

re: #200 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Its a terrible burden to let people vote.

The GOP are trying their hardest to relieve people of that burden.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:45:42am

Terry Nichols family should go on Fox and try to get his sentence commuted by Trump because why the hell not. It’s easy as hell for Trump to be convinced that so and so was treated so so unfairly. For fuck sake, Blago is a Chicago Democrat no less and Trump has pronounced him a victim of Comey who once again I’ll note is more of a Republican than Trump ever was.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:46:13am

re: #189 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

if this whole assange / Rohrabacher thing is true it’s another QPQ an in fact it’s selling a pardon

pretty sure that’s not allowed, right?

Like Trump, Assange is owned by Putin so why would he object to lying to the court to support Trump? Of course, the Justice Dept may have the receipts that the Wikileaks material came from Russia. OTOH, Barr will certainly shut this down

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:46:15am

re: #201 lawhawk

The GOP are trying their hardest to relieve people of that burden.

Our social betters will decide for us. //

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sagehen  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:47:26am

Blago’s pardon was of course unwarranted. But… I do like the silver hair better than when he was still dyeing it the color it was in his youth..

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garzooma  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:48:37am

re: #152 garzooma

Hasn’t Assange claimed all along that he didn’t get the stolen DNC material from Russia?

To answer my own question, yes he has:

HANNITY: Can you say to the American people, unequivocally, that you did not get this information about the DNC, John Podesta’s emails, can you tell the American people 1,000 percent that you did not get it from Russia or anybody associated with Russia?

JULIAN ASSANGE: Yes. We can say, we have said, repeatedly that over the last two months that our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party.

The current claim doesn’t make sense. Why offer a pardon in return for something he’s already done?

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:50:50am

re: #198 lawhawk

Throw $200k at Trump’s campaign and you’re guaranteed a pardon.

$1m gets you an ambassadorship
and you can keep it if you dont ever testify

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:53:48am

re: #205 sagehen

Blago’s pardon was of course unwarranted. But… I do like the silver hair better than when he was still dyeing it the color it was in his youth..

I’m not as troubled by Blago as by the others. Blago was given a harsh sentence, worse than George Ryan, his Republican predecessor, whose corruption in selling licenses to unqualified drivers led to the deaths of 6 children. Of course, in Ryan’s case, the corruption occurred before his election to governor. Blago had already served more time than Ryan received.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:56:37am

re: #208 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m not as troubled by Blago as by the others. Blago was given a harsh sentence, worse than George Ryan, his Republican predecessor, whose corruption in selling licenses to unqualified drivers led to the deaths of 6 children. Of course, in Ryan’s case, the corruption occurred before his election to governor. Blago had already served more time than Ryan received.

Especially since he wasn’t pardoned. Commutation I can live with.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 19, 2020 • 10:56:38am

re: #206 garzooma

To answer my own question, yes he has:

The current claim doesn’t make sense. Why offer a pardon in return for something he’s already done?

He said it in public, not under oath. In public you are free to create alternative facts, usually without legal consequences. In a court of law, not so much. But here, as Trump has done before, the offer was that Assange should perjure himself and Trump will pardon him.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:11:13am

re: #206 garzooma

To answer my own question, yes he has:

The current claim doesn’t make sense. Why offer a pardon in return for something he’s already done?

That interview was after Roharbacher visited Assange.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:15:33am

Jon McNaughton, who is like Ben Garrison but MOAR SERIOUS ARTISTE, has introduced a new masterpiece! Send in the Clowns!

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BigPapa  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:16:39am

McNaughton = Serious Garrison?

Well done Pie Overlord, well done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:22:59am

re: #210 Hecuba’s daughter

He said it in public, not under oath. In public you are free to create alternative facts, usually without legal consequences. In a court of law, not so much.

Which is why Trump will never testify under oath. He could not open his mouth in court without contradicting either himself or other sworn testimony…

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:23:29am

this sucks pretty good

?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:25:16am

re: #212 The Pie Overlord!

So wait, Mimes and Kabuki fighters are clowns now?

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:26:01am

re: #216 Eclectic Cyborg

So wait, Mimes and Kabuki fighters are clowns now?

//

anyone with an unnaturally bright painted face qualifies, I guess…

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KGxvi  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:26:31am

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is why we need a Federal SLAPP law.

I can’t remember the rule under Erie as to whether anti-SLAPP laws are considered procedural or substantive.

I’m not even sure we need an anti-SLAPP law so much as a revision of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Maybe adding something to Rule 12? The Supreme Court gets to make the Federal Rules and then Congress can veto them, but they only have like 6 or 7 months, I think. Hell, even a more expansive view of Rule 12(b)(6) might be enough to get an anti-SLAPP rule in place.

Granted, those won’t necessarily entitle the winning side to attorney fees, but it’s better than having to slog through to a motion for summary judgment.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:30:44am

re: #216 Eclectic Cyborg

So wait, Mimes and Kabuki fighters are clowns now?

//

I’m guessing the mimes are the FoxNews guys?

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KGxvi  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:33:25am

re: #219 b.d. (Is Rush Dead Yet?)

I’m guessing the mimes are the FoxNews guys?

Wait, why is there a chimp in the mix?

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:36:20am

re: #220 KGxvi

Wait, why is there a chimp in the mix?

DON’T QUESTION FINE ART!!!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:36:57am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

anyone with an unnaturally bright painted face qualifies, I guess…

Well, I guess this guy is in, then.

/

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:38:29am

re: #146 Dr. Matt

With the BernieDolts invoking Birtherism, it’s safe to say that Bernie and his campaign are once again trying to elect Donnie. I despise conspiracy theories like the rest of us, but he’s undermining the Left and the Democratic Party…..as usual. I don’t think this is an accident either.

His entire campaign seems premised on destroying the Democratic party and replacing it with Jacobinism.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:38:37am
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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:38:49am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:40:35am

re: #225 jaunte

I knew the Berner/Trumper convergence would be complete any day now.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:40:59am

re: #225 jaunte

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Briebrie is a real problem for Sanders, ultimately. She may help lock down the “pox upon both their houses—especially Dems” base, but Bernie’s gonna lose with that nonsense.

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retired cynic  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:41:06am

re: #215 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

this sucks pretty good

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:41:07am

re: #187 Joe Bacon 🌹

Im sure Robert Mercer is paying her bills.

Evidence? (This ain’t Breitbart.)

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:41:24am

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

Apparently her tweet was from 2016. But she hasn’t deleted it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:41:59am

re: #160 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep and once she’s not young and pretty anymore…

Sorry, not sorry, gun girl isn’t especially attractive now.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:42:38am
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:42:57am

re: #169 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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It’s actually Stalinist. I use that term deliberately. They are erasing facts and replacing them with party certitude.

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retired cynic  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:42:59am

re: #231 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Sorry, not sorry, gun girl isn’t especially attractive now.

No one recognizes her face, which is not unpleasant. They just remember that torrent of uncontrolled hair.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:43:44am

re: #231 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Sorry, not sorry, gun girl isn’t especially attractive now.

LOL.

I was actually referring to the RWNJs who fawn over her like she’s Tactical Gear Barbie, not suggesting I personally find her attractive.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:45:12am

re: #212 The Pie Overlord!

Jon McNaughton, who is like Ben Garrison but MOAR SERIOUS ARTISTE, has introduced a new masterpiece! Send in the Clowns!

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I take it this is not an homage to all the excellent comedians reporting the news (better than some of the mainstream)?

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makeitstop  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:45:24am

re: #190 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Someone’s paid for her to go to New York City and trash it and its people.

Nah, I think she’s self-financing.

The proof AFAIC is that Fox News didn’t give her the time of day until her little stunt on a college campus the other day. If she was a Mercer minion, don’t you think she would have been on Fox a lot sooner instead of texting them and practically begging for a hit every time she went to NYC?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:46:58am

re: #225 jaunte

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OMG.

Sanders has to repudiate this. Jesus.

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EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:47:07am

re: #227 Barefoot Grin

Briebrie is a real problem for Sanders, ultimately. She may help lock down the “pox upon both their houses—especially Dems” base, but Bernie’s gonna lose with that nonsense.

Sanders is choosing poorly with some of his most senior campaign people. That bodes ill for both the general election (if he’s the nominee) and his presidency (if he ends up winning).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:47:11am

re: #237 makeitstop

Nah, I think she’s self-financing.

The proof AFAIC is that Fox News didn’t give her the time of day until her little stunt on a college campus the other day. If she was a Mercer minion, don’t you think she would have been on Fox a lot sooner instead of texting them and practically begging for a hit every time she went to NYC?

As far as I know her manager is also her boyfriend and I doubt he really knows what the fuck he’s doing as far as booking her exploits.

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:47:48am

re: #238 Scottish Dragon

Briebriejoy vs. the entire intelligence community.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:49:40am

re: #237 makeitstop

Nah, I think she’s self-financing.

The proof AFAIC is that Fox News didn’t give her the time of day until her little stunt on a college campus the other day. If she was a Mercer minion, don’t you think she would have been on Fox a lot sooner instead of texting them and practically begging for a hit every time she went to NYC?

NRA was sending her to my sons college campus to meet with the college republicans as an “ambassador” to talk last year. So the NRA had footed her bill at least in that instance.

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makeitstop  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:50:10am

re: #229 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Evidence? (This ain’t Breitbart.)

Yeah, Mercer’s becoming our very own Soros…

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retired cynic  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:52:02am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:55:37am

Fascinating.

Researchers at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) report new data that support the hypothesis that remdesivir, a drug with broad antiviral activity, may be a promising treatment against Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV).

They think it may translate to CoVid-19.

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:55:51am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:57:29am

re: #234 retired cynic

No one recognizes her face, which is not unpleasant. They just remember that torrent of uncontrolled hair.

“Not unpleasant” isn’t Fox News attractive. Just sayin’.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:58:35am

re: #237 makeitstop

Nah, I think she’s self-financing.

The proof AFAIC is that Fox News didn’t give her the time of day until her little stunt on a college campus the other day. If she was a Mercer minion, don’t you think she would have been on Fox a lot sooner instead of texting them and practically begging for a hit every time she went to NYC?

She was begging $$ on a GoFundMe for a flat screen TV. Hard to imagine her self-financing much of anything.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 11:59:37am

re: #239 EPR-radar

Sanders is choosing poorly with some of his most senior campaign people. That bodes ill for both the general election (if he’s the nominee) and his presidency (if he ends up winning).

Same as last time. It goes to his lack of character, IMHO. It’s who Bernie is.

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makeitstop  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:00:11pm

re: #247 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

“Not unpleasant” isn’t Fox News attractive. Just sayin’.

Exactly. Ailes developed a stylized look for all his on-air talent, which he enforced on all of them, including Greta van Susteren. Remember when she took that Fox gig and dyed her hair blonde?

Gun Girl = not Fox material. Tomi Lahren = Fox material.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:00:52pm

re: #243 makeitstop

Yeah, Mercer’s becoming our very own Soros…

I interpreted Joe Bacon’s comment as sarc (or half sarc?).

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makeitstop  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:01:04pm

re: #248 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She was begging $$ on a GoFundMe for a flat screen TV. Hard to imagine her self-financing much of anything.

OTOH, if she was being bankrolled by Mercer, she never would have had to beg for money for a TV.

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makeitstop  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:02:24pm

re: #251 Dr. Matt

I interpreted Joe Bacon’s comment as sarc (or half sarc?).

Maybe I missed the sarc.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:02:37pm

re: #250 makeitstop

Exactly. Ailes developed a stylized look for all his on-air talent, which he enforced on all of them, including Greta van Susteren. Remember when she took that Fox gig and dyed her hair blonde?

Gun Girl = not Fox material. Tomi Lahren = Fox material.

Fox will give GÜn Gurl a gig if she gets a boob job, loses 25 pounds, straightens her hair, and starts tanning.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:03:11pm

re: #254 Dr. Matt

Fox will give GÜn Gurl a gig if she gets a boob job, loses 25 pounds, straightens her hair, and starts tanning.

And stops pooping her pants….

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Dave In Austin  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:04:12pm

re: #255 Dr. Matt

And stops pooping her pants….

Her too?

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:04:44pm

re: #256 Dave In Austin

Her too?

Who else is pooping their pants?

edit: Did Kaitlin Bennett Poop Her Pants? Rumors Are Swirling About the “Kent State Gun Girl”

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Belafon  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:06:26pm

re: #250 makeitstop

Exactly. Ailes developed a stylized look for all his on-air talent, which he enforced on all of them, including Greta van Susteren. Remember when she took that Fox gig and dyed her hair blonde?

Gun Girl = not Fox material. Tomi Lahren = Fox material.

Greta also got a nose job. Her talent wasn’t enough.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:06:31pm

re: #257 Dr. Matt

Who else is pooping their pants?

I think this might have been a reference to Chuck C. Johnson.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:07:35pm

re: #257 Dr. Matt

It was a CCJ equation. Not quite, but close

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:08:05pm

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

I think this might have been a reference to Chuck C. Johnson.

CCJ = Floor Pooper
Gun Gurl = Pants Pooper
Donnie J = Diarrhea mouth

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makeitstop  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:10:29pm

re: #258 Belafon

Greta also got a nose job. Her talent wasn’t enough.

That’s right, I forgot all about the nose job.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:11:29pm

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

I think this might have been a reference to Chuck C. Johnson.

Jeez, he finally surfaced hereabouts again.

Can’t say I missed him. It’s kinda like doing a spring cleaning of the garage and finding a dead rat rotting in the corner.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:13:54pm

re: #263 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Jeez, he finally surfaced hereabouts again.

Can’t say I missed him. It’s kinda like doing a spring cleaning of the garage and finding a dead rat rotting in the corner.

If only we were so lucky.

//

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:15:16pm

re: #263 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Jeez, he finally surfaced hereabouts again.

Can’t say I missed him. It’s kinda like doing a spring cleaning of the garage and finding a dead rat rotting in the corner.

Speaking of CCJ, gun gurl should look at his pathetic life to see where she’ll end up.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:16:14pm

re: #265 Dr. Matt

Rubbing shoulders with members of the WH entourage? Again, this is the kind of alternative reality where people fail upwards and make a living doing so.

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makeitstop  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:18:29pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:19:39pm

re: #265 Dr. Matt

Speaking of CCJ, gun gurl should look at his pathetic life to see where she’ll end up.

Worse. She got slammed on campus just the other day with a ton of kids telling her just what they thought of her. Loudly.

It would have been sad if she wasn’t such a pathetic excuse for a human.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:26:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:26:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:27:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:28:29pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:29:31pm

re: #202 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Terry Nichols family should go on Fox and try to get his sentence commuted by Trump because why the hell not. It’s easy as hell for Trump to be convinced that so and so was treated so so unfairly. For fuck sake, Blago is a Chicago Democrat no less and Trump has pronounced him a victim of Comey who once again I’ll note is more of a Republican than Trump ever was.

If Nichols’ family made a $50k contribution to the Trump Campaign, he probably would.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:30:42pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:30:50pm

re: #206 garzooma

To answer my own question, yes he has:

The current claim doesn’t make sense. Why offer a pardon in return for something he’s already done?

Get him to say it under oath.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:31:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:31:53pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:33:10pm

re: #251 Dr. Matt

I interpreted Joe Bacon’s comment as sarc (or half sarc?).

Hey I was trying to be sarcastic! Props to Dr. Matt!

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makeitstop  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:34:58pm

re: #278 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hey I was trying to be sarcastic! Props to Dr. Matt!

Sorry I misread, Joe.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:36:35pm

re: #257 Dr. Matt

Who else is pooping their pants?

edit: Did Kaitlin Bennett Poop Her Pants? Rumors Are Swirling About the “Kent State Gun Girl”

Oh my! Is she Chuck C’s Soul Mate???????

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:37:31pm

of course…

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garzooma  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:38:43pm

re: #276 Scottish Dragon

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Now why isn’t there a movie about Leyte Gulf?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:38:53pm
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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:39:11pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course…

Former Democratic presidential hopeful Yang joins CNN as commentator…to trash the remaining Democratic presidential hopefuls.

I fixed the headline

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:39:44pm

re: #282 garzooma

Now why isn’t there a movie about Leyte Gulf?

Because it might show Halsey screwed up.

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BeachDem  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:41:06pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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1. Previous winners include Ben Carson’s wife, Candy and Helen DeVos.
2. Victoria Jackson’s alma mater.

I know I’m impressed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:42:39pm
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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:43:22pm

re: #285 Scottish Dragon

Because it might show Halsey screwed up.

“Halsey acted stupidly”

Iframe

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:45:49pm

re: #285 Scottish Dragon

He acted stupidly?

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garzooma  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:46:06pm

re: #285 Scottish Dragon

Because it might show Halsey screwed up.

Unlike Pearl Harbor, where no one screwed up//

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:46:34pm

re: #282 garzooma

Now why isn’t there a movie about Leyte Gulf?

Because it’s not one of the WW2 sound bite history battles:
1) Pearl Harbor - Japanese bring us into the War
2) Midway - Japanese fleet mangled by plucky fliers
3) Normandy - USA lands to save Europe’s bacon
4) Battle of the Bulge - temporary setback, Bastogne holds out

A sort of 2A is submarine war, but those are not “large scope” pictures.

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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:49:04pm

re: #291 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

One of the best war movies (and great movie all around): Das Boot.

I’d put it as the top submarine based movie made. Better than even The Hunt for Red October.

Stalingrad could be a totally epic movie subject (or Operation Barbarossa), but that’s focused on the Soviets. The movie that was made was with Jude Law was ok (Enemy at the Gates).

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William Lewis  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:52:01pm

re: #282 garzooma

Now why isn’t there a movie about Leyte Gulf?

Just the Battle off Samar would do. I’d love to see the Samuel B. Roberts, Heerman, Hoel & Johnston brought to the screen against the Yamato.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:52:42pm

re: #292 lawhawk

One of the best war movies (and great movie all around): Das Boot.

I’d put it as the top submarine based movie made. Better than even The Hunt for Red October.

I’ll see your Das Boot, and play you Down Periscope.

Down Periscope - Official Movie Trailer

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:54:45pm

re: #292 lawhawk

One of the best war movies (and great movie all around): Das Boot.

I’d put it as the top submarine based movie made. Better than even The Hunt for Red October.

Stalingrad could be a totally epic movie subject (or Operation Barbarossa), but that’s focused on the Soviets. The movie that was made was with Jude Law was ok (Enemy at the Gates).

I’m biased but I’d like a movie about the Yugoslav Partisans.

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garzooma  Feb 19, 2020 • 12:55:46pm

re: #291 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

[…]
A sort of 2A is submarine war, but those are not “large scope” pictures.

Speaking of screw ups, I just saw a YouTube video on the Mark 14 torpedo. Basically rendered US subs all but useless for the first year of the war.

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William Lewis  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:00:59pm

re: #296 garzooma

Speaking of screw ups, I just saw a YouTube video on the Mark 14 torpedo. Basically rendered US subs all but useless for the first year of the war.

Ah, yeah, that was one of Drachinifel’s best yet. Easily to naval history what The Chieftain is to tanks and Ian McCollum to firearms. His piece on Samar is excellent but perhaps his best work is in the several pieces he’s done to recount the tragedy that was the Imperial Russian fleet and the Russo-Japanese War.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:04:27pm
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William Lewis  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:04:39pm

re: #292 lawhawk

One of the best war movies (and great movie all around): Das Boot.

I’d put it as the top submarine based movie made. Better than even The Hunt for Red October.

Stalingrad could be a totally epic movie subject (or Operation Barbarossa), but that’s focused on the Soviets. The movie that was made was with Jude Law was ok (Enemy at the Gates).

If I were to get a single movie done about the Eastern Front, I’d love to see one on the battle of Smolensk (July-September, 1941) where the Russians, though losing the battle denied the Germans victory and laid the seeds of how they would stop the Germans short of Moscow and, eventually, win the war.

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Interesting Times  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:09:16pm

OMG:

Chuck C. is jealous
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:09:28pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder how much money Bloomberg carries around with him. If only there were some way we could stop him on the street for no reason to search through his pockets.

“You are living in a high tax-evasion area. We need to go through all your financial statements for the past three years.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:09:35pm

re: #299 William Lewis

If I were to get a single movie done about the Eastern Front, I’d love to see one on the battle of Smolensk (July-September, 1941) where the Russians, though losing the battle denied the Germans victory and laid the seeds of how they would stop the Germans short of Moscow and, eventually, win the war.

The Eastern Front has always fascinated me since my grandparents had aunts, uncles, and cousins who got caught up in the middle of it. The reason why I brought up Yugoslavia is according to family lore, my grandfather had a cousin killed and the survivors joined the Partisans. I’m not sure about the cousin getting killed part but I do know through talking to a cousin that we did in fact have family that took part in the resistance and according to a book another more distant cousin wrote the part of Slovenia where our family was from was right in the middle of it. It was sadly in some ways a Civil War since some more distant branches collaborated unfortunately.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:10:59pm

re: #300 Interesting Times

OMG:

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I give up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:12:48pm

re: #295 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m biased but I’d like a movie about the Yugoslav Partisans.

There was one, “The Fifth Offensive” starring Richard Burton as Tito, that certainly spared no expense when it came to blowing up surplus war ordinance.

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William Lewis  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:14:44pm

re: #304 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was one, “The Fifth Offensive” starring Richard Burton as Tito, that certainly spared no expense when it came to blowing up surplus war ordinance.

“Force 10 from Navarone” too.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:16:17pm

re: #304 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was one, “The Fifth Offensive” starring Richard Burton as Tito, that certainly spared no expense when it came to blowing up surplus war ordinance.

I was honestly hoping for something that would be in Serbo-Croatian and or Slovene that would illustrate the divides that existed within Yugoslavia during that time period.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:16:32pm

re: #300 Interesting Times

OMG:

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ROTFLMAO at the 💩 Queen!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:18:07pm

re: #297 William Lewis

Ah, yeah, that was one of Drachinifel’s best yet. Easily to naval history what The Chieftain is to tanks and Ian McCollum to firearms. His piece on Samar is excellent but perhaps his best work is in the several pieces he’s done to recount the tragedy that was the Imperial Russian fleet and the Russo-Japanese War.

Concur that all produce good content and back it up with sources, etc. I also like some of Military History Visualized’s material as well. Sitting down with some coffee and watching/listening to Drach’s Sunday “Dry Dock” episodes is becoming a habit.

My remark on “sound bite history” is that the listed battles are the easy bar, and a movie about something else in WW2 has to get past those to even be considered as a Hollywood production. It hasn’t helped that most of them in the past decade with any sort of large budget have been cliche-ridden CGI fests. And I have trouble with those since my knowledge in the area makes me cringe even watching reviews or snippets.

I also concur that “Das Boot” is an excellent submarine film. But it’s foreign and also almost 40 years old now - pretty far from current Hollywood. We get stuff like “U-571” instead. (Which to be honest is also 20 years old.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:21:31pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:22:47pm

re: #302 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The Eastern Front has always fascinated me since my grandparents had aunts, uncles, and cousins who got caught up in the middle of it. The reason why I brought up Yugoslavia is according to family lore, my grandfather had a cousin killed and the survivors joined the Partisans. I’m not sure about the cousin getting killed part but I do know through talking to a cousin that we did in fact have family that took part in the resistance and according to a book another more distant cousin wrote the part of Slovenia where our family was from was right in the middle of it. It was sadly in some ways a Civil War since some more distant branches collaborated unfortunately.

Only film about Yugoslav partisans that I can recall is “Battle of Neretva” (1969) which showed up on television every so often. Only actor I recall from it is Yul Brynner. (I am not counting the partisans from “Force 10 From Naverone”.)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:23:12pm

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

If Biden had a heart attack, we’d be hearing calls for him to drop out and as much as I genuinely like Biden, it would be the right thing. Anyone who thinks giving a soon to be 80 year old with a recent history of heart troubles the top job in the country, I really question their political judgment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:23:47pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:24:12pm

re: #310 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Only film about Yugoslav partisans that I can recall is “Battle of Neretva” (1969) which showed up on television every so often. Only actor I recall from it is Yul Brynner. (I am not counting the partisans from “Force 10 From Naverone”.)

Interesting. Never heard of that one. I enjoyed Anthropod. Got a kick out of the fact that two Irishmen (Cillian Murphy and Jamie Dorman) played a Slovak and Czech respectively but the Heydrich assassination is a cool story.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:24:53pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

Or who said he liked military memebrs who weren’t captured. It really says a lot that didn’t permanently disqualify him in the minds of a lot of conservatives because tehy hate McCain that much.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:25:19pm

re: #311 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

If Biden had a heart attack, we’d be hearing calls for him to drop out …

Or if Warren got the sniffles.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:25:27pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:27:05pm

re: #265 Dr. Matt

Speaking of CCJ, gun gurl should look at his pathetic life to see where she’ll end up.

Given that Le Furby au Rage lives in Houston, while his ex lives in CA, and also that Le Furby au Rage hung out with a very vile individual who is making coin in facial recognition …

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:27:13pm

re: #315 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Or if Warren got the sniffles.

I mean look at what happened to HRC. 95 degrees and she got sick and they acted like she was dying. There’s a lot of double standard bullshit going on and I’ll be honest it’s making me hope Biden and Warren who weren’t my favorites early on make comebacks.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:28:07pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really hoping for a nice night for him and Liz this evening. They need/deserve it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:28:41pm

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If Elizabeth was coughing they would demand that she drop out.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:29:51pm
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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:30:47pm

re: #307 Joe Bacon 🌹

ROTFLMAO at the 💩 Queen!

Except that it didn’t happen. We have enough fake news around, let’s not encourage it. Or slander strangers, even the unlikeable ones

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:32:16pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

The Social Network may one of tbose bioepics that needs a chapter 2. Been awhile since I’ve seen it but Facebook and social media has changed so much since that movie was made. What a weird bastard.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:34:14pm

re: #321 Charles Johnson

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So he’s too cheap to buy a can of Right Guard…

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Belafon  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:35:05pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, sorry Team Bloomberg, but that wasn’t an endorsement.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:35:07pm

re: #322 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Except that it didn’t happen. We have enough fake news around, let’s not encourage it. Or slander strangers, even the unlikeable ones

That’s fair. Man, really does seem like fake shit spreads easily no pun intended. I’ve caught people I generally agree with posting something that is debunked or way past the date of when it’s happened.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:35:56pm

Das Boot is brilliant, but I could never get past the fact that all the characters were Nazis. I spent the movie hoping they’d lose every battle and be sunk.

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sagehen  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:39:40pm

Tim O’Brien is an EXCELLENT surrogate. Mike Bloomberg made an excellent hire there.

his response to the sexual harassment accusations:

1) somebody wrote a gag book as a birthday present for him. He did not write the jokes. He never said those things. Bernie is misrepresenting those statements.

2) Suits against Bloomberg for harassment were suits against Bloomberg LP, they didn’t accuse him personally. It was about people lower down in the company, but because it happened at work and the company is named after him his name appears on the paperwork. Nobody’s accused him specifically, individually, of having said or done those things. And most of the incidents were while he was mayor, so he wasn’t even at the company at the time.

on stop & frisk:

He has apologized. He will continue to apologize. It’s a stain on his record, he regrets it deeply, but it’s not representative of his overall character or his racial views. During his tenure as mayor he also diversified the police department, reduced incarceration by 40%, and massively increased the percentage of city contracts that went to minority-owned businesses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:41:54pm
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lawhawk  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:42:40pm

re: #327 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

It’s one of those movies that subverts expectations. You think that they’re done when the depth charges hit. They then make it out of that, go to the sub base, only to get caught in an Allied raid where the sub sinks dockside and the crew are killed or injured.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:43:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:45:57pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:47:28pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

Except for fine innocent black kids. Ginger then* the max.

*Give them. Fukkin’ autocorrect.

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A Cranky One  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:47:37pm

It’s true.

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EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:48:45pm

re: #327 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Das Boot is brilliant, but I could never get past the fact that all the characters were Nazis. I spent the movie hoping they’d lose every battle and be sunk.

That reminds me of a book I read long ago (can’t remember the title or author, unfortunately), where the protagonist was basically an honest detective in Nazi Germany. Not an easy setting to deal with.

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William Lewis  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:50:14pm

re: #336 EPR-radar

That reminds me of a book I read long ago (can’t remember the title or author, unfortunately), where the protagonist was basically an honest detective in Nazi Germany. Not an easy setting to deal with.

Fatherland?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:52:03pm
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Dave In Austin  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:52:41pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:53:15pm

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

“While the letter from the mechanic does not in any way indicate whether the vehicle will continue to run, it was a nice letter with words in it which is typical of letters.”

“My totally legit White House Doctor says I’m the healthiest President alive!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:55:04pm

re: #327 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Das Boot is brilliant, but I could never get past the fact that all the characters were Nazis. I spent the movie hoping they’d lose every battle and be sunk.

They were good Germans doing their duty to the Fatherland. They do portray an ardent Nazi supporter who winds up shitting his pants during a depth charge attack and flipping out when the doctor diagnoses him with lice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:55:43pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:56:50pm

re: #336 EPR-radar

That reminds me of a book I read long ago (can’t remember the title or author, unfortunately), where the protagonist was basically an honest detective in Nazi Germany. Not an easy setting to deal with.

Sounds a bit like “The Night of the Generals”, but that’s a movie.

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retired cynic  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:57:55pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hogan Gidley looks like Spanky from Our Gang, grown up, his hair serving as his hat. Sheesh!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 1:59:48pm

this is why Zimmerman is suing Warren:

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EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:00:49pm

re: #337 William Lewis

Fatherland?

That’s almost certainly what I’m remembering. I’d forgotten the alternate history part of it. Instead what remained was the realization that a Nazi society can very plausibly work for a large fraction of the population, with almost everyone agreeing that certain questions about people who disappeared were not to be asked.

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fern01  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:04:45pm

re: #38 lawhawk

Seeking en banc review it is

GOP and voter suppression go together - always - regardless as to what it costs - the govt legal fees would probably cover the outstanding debts of the ex-prisoners.

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retired cynic  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:05:30pm

Charlie Pierce: The Wall Street Journal Excluded Elizabeth Warren From a Poll…Because They Wanted To?
h/t to Lawrence O’Donnell who refused to use the poll on his show.

You know what I wish? I wish that the entire Democratic primary campaign could’ve come down to Warren, Harris, and Klobuchar. Three brilliant, accomplished, formidable women, all of whom generally share progressive goals, but with just enough differences on how to accomplish them to lend some real spice to the debate, and three women who, I guarantee you, would agree to fight ferociously for whichever one of them happened to win. My preferred outcome: President Warren, Attorney General Harris, and Senate Majority Leader Klobuchar. You can mix them up according to your personal preferences. Those are the kind of people we need to clean up this mess.

God, I wish no men were running for president.

Oh, yeah. And then this happened:

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William Lewis  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:07:50pm

re: #346 EPR-radar

That’s almost certainly what I’m remembering. I’d forgotten the alternate history part of it. Instead what remained was the realization that a Nazi society can very plausibly work for a large fraction of the population, with almost everyone agreeing that certain questions about people who disappeared were not to be asked.

To a certain degree, Spain showed that in real life. OTOH, Argentina & Chile shows what happens when people don’t stop questioning and the ground work is laid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:07:53pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:10:28pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Just a few days ago he called for the death penalty for drug addicts.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:13:01pm

re: #327 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Das Boot is brilliant, but I could never get past the fact that all the characters were Nazis. I spent the movie hoping they’d lose every battle and be sunk.

Then you never really watched the movie. The Captain WASN’T a Nazi. Suggest you re-watch it and actually pay attention to his reactions when confronted with a actual Nazi supporter. His disdain is apparent. He was a professional military officer doing his duty. Much like many of our CURRENT military officers doing their duty under this (mal)administration.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:14:08pm

re: #351 goddamnedfrank

Just a few days ago he called for the death penalty for drug addicts.

He’s also repeatedly suggested violent measures for dealing with “illegals”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:17:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:18:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:20:56pm

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Nelson]

HA HA!

[/Nelson]

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EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:21:30pm

re: #353 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s also repeatedly suggested violent measures for dealing with “illegals”.

Nobody believes Trump’s bullcrap about ‘harsh sentences’ except the professional drooling credulous idiots of the both-sides media that fluff up every lying GOP talking point as their only job.

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Chrysicat  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:21:52pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:28:31pm

Great.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:30:53pm

One of the early Simpsons was about them going to Springfield to their new house and getting a housewarming gift from the neighborhood welcome committee. There was something for Marge (“the little lady”) and something for Homer (“the man of the house”). Homer’s present was the “xxx” video “Das Butt.”

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jaunte  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:33:56pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:35:55pm

re: #360 Barefoot Grin

One of the early Simpsons was about them going to Springfield to their new house and getting a housewarming gift from the neighborhood welcome committee. There was something for Marge (“the little lady”) and something for Homer (“the man of the house”). Homer’s present was the “xxx” video “Das Butt.”

Barefoot, I know there’s a reference to someone above you posting about Das Boot in there, but why isn’t there an actual reference to the comment about Das Boot in there?

It can’t be easier to just go to the bottom and assume people will know your original-comment reference than to use the reply button, can it?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:38:19pm

re: #359 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Great.

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Doesn’t Bloomberg already have enough fucking money?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:39:28pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:40:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:41:35pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:42:26pm

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Proving why every election matters. I’m sure young LGBTQ Kentuckians especially like knowing their governor has their back and opposes conversion therapy. I can’t believe we’re talking conversion therapy still. It really reflects the stark difference between a liberal view of America and the conservative view.

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Chrysicat  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:44:48pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:47:03pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also Mike Pompeo: Fuck that stupid woman from NPR.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:47:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:48:22pm

re: #370 Charles Johnson

FFS to tenth power.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:53:36pm

re: #352 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Then you never really watched the movie. The Captain WASN’T a Nazi. Suggest you re-watch it and actually pay attention to his reactions when confronted with a actual Nazi supporter. His disdain is apparent. He was a professional military officer doing his duty. Much like many of our CURRENT military officers doing their duty under this (mal)administration.

I do not love this administration, but I’m not yet ready to equate it with Hitler’s. And even if I sympathize with the crew, I still want them to crash and burn as quickly as possible.

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EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:58:06pm

re: #372 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

I do not love this administration, but I’m not yet ready to equate it with Hitler’s.

It’s true that Republicans are not equivalent to Nazis as of Feb 19, 2020.

Dating such statements is very important because Republicans are working so diligently to erase this distinction.

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Chrysicat  Feb 19, 2020 • 2:59:49pm

re: #181 Dread Pirate

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:00:33pm

re: #372 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

I do not love this administration, but I’m not yet ready to equate it with Hitler’s.

Just curious… How many people have to be placed into camps and/or die for you to make that equation?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:00:47pm

Richard Grenell
Was almost a regular on Tucker Carlson’s show
And yes, the Ambassador that stated he want’ed to bolster right-wing communities in Europe

And no, there is absolutely nothing in Grenell’s past that qualifies him to be more than the spokesperson for the Director of National Intelligence

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:01:30pm

re: #373 EPR-radar

It’s true that Republicans are not equivalent to Nazis as of Feb 19, 2020.

Dating such statements is very important because Republicans are working so diligently to erase this distinction.

Date and time can be found just below your handle on every post.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:01:56pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:03:12pm

re: #377 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Date and time can be found just below your handle on every post.

Of course, but if the text is cut and pasted elsewhere, that date information is lost. Plus the larger point that any denial of Republicans = Nazis is necessarily a date-dependent fact.

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EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:05:03pm

re: #378 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

In Trumpworld there is only one kind of ‘qualification’ — the ability and desire to say what Dear Leader wants to hear at all times.

Having such a tool as US DNI is completely ludicrous.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:05:04pm

re: #375 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Just curious… How many people have to be placed into camps and/or die for you to make that equation?

I recommend “The Holocaust” by Martin Gilbert.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:06:33pm

re: #381 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

I recommend “The Holocaust” by Martin Gilbert.

So the lead up to The Holocaust is irrelevant?

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:08:15pm

re: #382 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So the lead up to The Holocaust is irrelevant?

Sorry, don’t want to play.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:08:53pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:11:08pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:12:14pm

re: #384 goddamnedfrank

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So no matter how hard she kisses up to Trump, she is polling at 39% in Arizona. This keeps up. Mark’s campaign might have an early night. With the right nominee, Arizona can be won. There was a reason why the Clinton campaign started campaigning there.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:13:42pm

re: #362 Chrysicat

Barefoot, I know there’s a reference to someone above you posting about Das Boot in there, but why isn’t there an actual reference to the comment about Das Boot in there?

It can’t be easier to just go to the bottom and assume people will know your original-comment reference than to use the reply button, can it?

Sorry, there were about 30 Das Boot references above. And yes, i was being lazy. Off for a high school band performance. Will check back later.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:15:29pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:16:09pm

re: #383 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Sorry, don’t want to play.

I’m not playing. I think they’re valid questions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:18:50pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:20:24pm
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Belafon  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:21:44pm

re: #374 Chrysicat

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Did they require a constitutional amendment to be removed?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:22:16pm

A shooting in the western German city of Hanau late Wednesday left several people dead and many injured, police sources confirmed. German newspaper Bild has reported that at least eight people have lost their lives, while five others were wounded.

The shooting took place at two shisha bars in different parts of the city, according to local media.

The perpetrators reportedly opened fire at the first shisha bar in Hanau’s downtown, killing three people. They then drove to the neighborhood of Kesselstadt and opened fire at the second shisha bar, where five people died.

Authorities are currently looking for the suspects, who are said to have fled the scene.

Hanau is a city of 100,000 inhabitants in the state of Hessen, some 25 kilometers (15 miles) east of the city of Frankfurt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:23:45pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:24:00pm

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Holy shit. That’s not far from where my family is from originally.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:24:33pm

re: #372 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

I do not love this administration, but I’m not yet ready to equate it with Hitler’s. And even if I sympathize with the crew, I still want them to crash and burn as quickly as possible.

You just lost me. In your original post, you called ALL of the crew nazis. They weren’t . Perhaps as a submariner, I see things differently than you.

I saw the movie as the opposite side of the same coin. Unrestricted warfare against enemy shipping and being hunted and killed for doing so.

It was our doctrine (and theirs) then. It is still our doctrine (and theirs) now.

If called upon, we seek out and destroy enemy shipping, Nothing more, nothing less.

We don’t take prisoners.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:25:07pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:25:25pm

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Multiple shisha bars=anti-Muslim terrorism?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:26:52pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:27:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:30:11pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:32:07pm

re: #372 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

I do not love this administration, but I’m not yet ready to equate it with Hitler’s.

Trump said that the Nazis who marched at Charlottesville were good people.

He locks up innocent people.

Case closed.

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Chrysicat  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:32:32pm

re: #401 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:33:18pm
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Dread Pirate  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:34:02pm
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BeachDem  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:34:11pm

re: #376 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Richard Grenell
Was almost a regular on Tucker Carlson’s show
And yes, the Ambassador that stated he want’ed to bolster right-wing communities in Europe

[Embedded content]

And no, there is absolutely nothing in Grenell’s past that qualifies him to be more than the spokesperson for the Director of National Intelligence

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:36:34pm

re: #406 BeachDem

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Chrysicat  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:37:22pm
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BeachDem  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:41:15pm

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I like no-fucks-to-give Holder.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:41:44pm

It’s so cold I had to chop up my piano for firewood, it only gave me two chords.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:42:28pm

re: #389 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m not playing. I think they’re valid questions.

Sure you are. An honest reply would begin, “I think you’re wrong because…” Instead you’re starting from the assumption that you’re perfectly right and I’m completely wrong. Since nothing is going to change your mind, I refuse to play the justification game.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:46:58pm

re: #402 Joe Bacon 🌹

Trump said that the Nazis who marched at Charlottesville were good people.

He locks up innocent people.

Case closed.

And you’re still working for it ayway?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:47:21pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:50:32pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

Loyalty to Dear Leader is the only relevant qualification for anything in Trumpworld.

Naturally that loyalty is only one way, but I can’t be bothered to feel any sympathy for the soulless Quislings who think they can deal with Trump and not get burned.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:50:59pm

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

That a fucking judge has to order CPB to provide these people with “Basic human needs”…

I wonder if CPB will just ignore this order too?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:51:05pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Also Director of the DIA.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:53:07pm

re: #415 Eclectic Cyborg

That a fucking judge has to order CPB to provide these people with “Basic human needs”…

I wonder if CPB will just ignore this order too?

AbsoFuckingLutely.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:57:44pm

Fucking Rudy - Cyber security Czar.

Sometimes, typing the wrong letter for a website address means sending visitors to a 404 page. When you’re Rudy Giuliani, it means potentially sending hundreds of thousands of followers straight to a virus.

Hackers have been taking advantage of typos in tweets by the former New York City mayor, buying the mistyped domain names and redirecting visitors to a fake page designed to spread malware rather than to the original page that Giuliani had meant to type.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 3:59:24pm

really nice article

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VegasGolfer  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:03:16pm

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

Damn, I was stationed there when I was in the Army

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Dread Pirate  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:05:21pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:06:14pm

Hat tip to the politics channel for the El Goonish Shive Discord (invites available upon request, but be warned it’s a place where most who don’t like Bernie do it because he’s too far right):

Holy effing…!

I would say I hoped that this would destroy his candidacy but somehow I think his base considers this a feature rather than a bug.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:10:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:15:26pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:19:24pm

Ronald Reagan arrested for sexual assault of a child.

LUBBBOCK, Texas — Lubbock Police arrested Ronald Dean Reagan, 22, of Lubbock for sexual assault of a child. The first-degree felony arrest warrant against him was issued out of Midland County.

Late Tuesday night a police officer saw Reagan driving a car with a defective headlight at 82nd. The officer pulled over Reagan learned that he was wanted in Midland County.

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KGxvi  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:24:47pm

re: #422 Chrysicat

Hat tip to the politics channel for the El Goonish Shive Discord (invites available upon request, but be warned it’s a place where most who don’t like Bernie do it because he’s too far right):

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Holy effing…!

I would say I hoped that this would destroy his candidacy but somehow I think his base considers this a feature rather than a bug.

I wonder if, late at night, when nobody else is around and Sanders is alone with his thoughts… if he wonders how the fuck he got here? Like how does a career back bencher with no real legislative accomplishments manage to be the nominal frontrunner for a major party presidential nomination at such an advanced age?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 19, 2020 • 4:56:36pm

re: #422 Chrysicat

Hat tip to the politics channel for the El Goonish Shive Discord (invites available upon request, but be warned it’s a place where most who don’t like Bernie do it because he’s too far right):

[Embedded content]

Holy effing…!

I would say I hoped that this would destroy his candidacy but somehow I think his base considers this a feature rather than a bug.

Yep Bernie is lower than Bloomberg for me at this point. Bernie knows that inter party challenges cripple incumbents chances.


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