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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 9:56:57am

CL’d because somehow I forgot that 13:00 is always a new thread:

re: #168 Dr Lizardo

A new Czech documentary film will be premiering this week - and it’s likely gonna be somewhat controversial.

radio.cz

As the article notes, police investigations have already been launched against some of those who contacted the decoy girls.

We did that in the twokays. Called it “To Catch a Predator”. It also inevitably led to charging the catfished creepo.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:04:33am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:09:28am
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jaunte  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:10:50am

re: #3 NO SMOCKING GUN!

NSC Creationism.

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:13:47am

re: #3 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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So, Trump is now a Pope, an Anti-Pope, or something?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:14:13am

re: #3 NO SMOCKING GUN!

We’re so fucked.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:15:08am

re: #3 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Therefore, Trump’s tweets are policy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:15:29am

re: #3 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Groans.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:17:17am

re: #3 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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…more champagne corks pop at the Kremlin…makes me wonder when Trump dies will Putin place his ashes in the Kremlin wall?????

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:19:12am

re: #3 NO SMOCKING GUN!

When Trump national security adviser Robert O’Brien convenes meetings with NSC officials, he sometimes opens by distributing printouts of Trump’s tweets on the subject at hand. Their job is to find ways of justifying, enacting or explaining Trump’s policy.

I thought that was Fox News’ job…

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:19:45am

Jesus Christ on a motorized pogostick.

Bernie Sanders is DEFENDING the Castro regime? In Florida?

Not to bring up a sore subject, but Gore lost by 400 votes in 2000, and that was with a so-so opposition from the Gusanos on Calle Ocho.

Not just South Florida, but pretty much any Republican in the southeastern U.S. was just handed a great big stick to beat Bernie with…

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:22:04am

Just in time for coronavirus.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:27:19am

re: #12 jaunte

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Just in time for coronavirus.

I read one of the factors that can be considered to support rejection of a person applying for a green card on the grounds that they may become a public charge is … applying for a green card.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:27:45am

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Jesus Christ on a motorized pogostick.

Bernie Sanders is DEFENDING the Castro regime? In Florida?

Not to bring up a sore subject, but Gore lost by 400 votes in 2000, and that was with a so-so opposition from the Gusanos on Calle Ocho.

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Not just South Florida, but pretty much any Republican in the southeastern U.S. was just handed a great big stick to beat Bernie with…

Florida was already gonna be tough as is. Why does he kneecap us in a state that is vital to a Democratic victory.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:31:12am

I think Warren would do great in Florida. Just saying.

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William Lewis  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:31:49am

re: #14 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Florida was already gonna be tough as is. Why does he kneecap us in a state that is vital to a Democratic victory.

Because his boss, Comrade Putin, told him to? / only 1/2 I fear.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:33:44am

re: #16 William Lewis

Because his boss, Comrade Putin, told him to? / only 1/2 I fear.

I honestly don’t know but his stupidity is going to hurt a lot of vulnerable Democrats if he’s the nominee. I did see that the South Florida Dem house members understandably pounced on it.

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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:33:53am

re: #14 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Florida was already gonna be tough as is. Why does he kneecap us in a state that is vital to a Democratic victory.

Because it’s possible he has less of a filter than I do. I’m autistic and was lucky to even hold down the jobs I did before I was informally diagnosed; why he lacks one too I have no idea!

Also, he may think that Trump got where he is by doing only the exact opposite of what common sense would suggest, so he needs to as well.

And then there’s the minor issue that he really does think Cubans and Venezuelans were better off than anyone below middle management in the US in 1988.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:34:51am

Metallica sent out an email:

Dear Metallica Family,

It pains me to write this, but I have to let all of you know that I cannot make it to Sonic Temple in Columbus and Louder Than Life in Louisville this year. As part of my continuing effort to get and stay healthy, I have critical recovery events on those weekends that cannot be moved. I apologize to all of our fans who have bought tickets for these festivals. We are working with the festival promoters to provide for refunds or exchanges. My intent with this statement is saying “I apologize” to each one of you. The reality is that I have not prioritized my health in the past year of touring and I now know that my mental health comes first. That might sound like a no-brainer for most of you but I didn’t want to let the Metallica team/family down and, I alone, completely compromised myself.

Looking on the brighter side, my therapy is going well. It was absolutely necessary for me to look after my mental, physical, and spiritual health.

I want to stress that the band will play all other announced 2020 shows.

I am looking forward to getting back to playing and seeing all our great South American fans in April. And, of course, playing the Epicenter in Charlotte, Welcome to Rockville in Daytona and Aftershock in Sacramento. We will still play two unique sets at each of these festivals.

Beyond 2020, I am optimistic about the blessings I have been given and what the future brings. I appreciate all the great prayers and support from everyone since I went into rehab last September. Like the moth into the flame, being human in this career has its huge challenges and can be difficult. Your understanding helps the healing.

- James

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:37:56am

There was a discussion downstairs of Supreme Court appointments if DT wins gets a second term. Lawhawk noted that if the Dems have the Senate and the House, he can be prevented from putting in more toadies and traitors.

And Ghost of a Flea spent yesterday (?) texting in support of downticket races (I was phone banking, not for as long).

Please put these three threads together.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:37:56am

re: #18 Chrysicat

Because it’s possible he has less of a filter than I do. I’m autistic and was lucky to even hold down the jobs I did before I was informally diagnosed; why he lacks one too I have no idea!

Also, he may think that Trump got where he is by doing only the exact opposite of what common sense would suggest, so he needs to as well.

And then there’s the minor issue that he really does think Cubans and Venezuelans were better off than anyone below middle management in the US in 1988.

I have no idea but I guarantee this, he wouldn’t like it and I would agree with him completely if he took offense to the narrative that Pinochet wasn’t that bad because of Chilean social security program that right wingers love to laud Pinochet for.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:39:26am

re: #20 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

There was a discussion downstairs of Supreme Court appointments if DT wins gets a second term. Lawhawk noted that if the Dems have the Senate and the House, he can be prevented from putting in more toadies and traitors.

And Ghost of a Flea spent yesterday (?) texting in support of downticket races (I was phone banking, not for as long).

Please put these three threads together.

I think it’s a reasonable bet if Trump wins re-election, he will have retained the Senate at least. Can’t say for sure about the House but at the very least he will not have lost House seats in a re-election. Downticket matters though for sure. My district went to a Democrat for the first time in 40 years.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:43:18am

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Jesus Christ on a motorized pogostick.

Bernie Sanders is DEFENDING the Castro regime? In Florida?

Not to bring up a sore subject, but Gore lost by 400 votes in 2000, and that was with a so-so opposition from the Gusanos on Calle Ocho.

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Not just South Florida, but pretty much any Republican in the southeastern U.S. was just handed a great big stick to beat Bernie with…

Frank Luntz has prepared a massive attack dossier on Sanders. This is a taste of what is to come from Luntz and it will be BRUTAL!

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:43:55am

re: #22 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think it’s a reasonable bet if Trump wins re-election, he will have retained the Senate at least.

That does not excuse you from trying. (Also, what makes you think that? Consider the popularity of some Senators. We only need to pick up four seats.)

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KGxvi  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:43:59am

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Jesus Christ on a motorized pogostick.

Bernie Sanders is DEFENDING the Castro regime? In Florida?

Not to bring up a sore subject, but Gore lost by 400 votes in 2000, and that was with a so-so opposition from the Gusanos on Calle Ocho.

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Not just South Florida, but pretty much any Republican in the southeastern U.S. was just handed a great big stick to beat Bernie with…

Per the 2017 Census estimate, there’s about 2.3 million Cuban Americans across the US. 33k in Nevada, which Clinton won by 27k votes. 28k in Pennsylvania, which is about half the margin that Trump won by in 2016. It’s not just Florida that stupid shit like this could cost Democrats.

I’m Cuban, my mom came with her sister and parents with a suitcase between them in the 60s. A year after my uncle and his cousin came alone so they wouldn’t be conscripted as 12 year olds into Castro’s new army. I’ve got extended family that were Marielitos. You can talk about a new/better policy toward Cuba without offering praise to an authoritarian who killed thousands and exiled millions.

I swear to the old gods, we’re back to the point where one party deserves to lose and the other doesn’t deserve to win.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:44:35am

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Jesus Christ on a motorized pogostick.

Bernie Sanders is DEFENDING the Castro regime? In Florida?

Not to bring up a sore subject, but Gore lost by 400 votes in 2000, and that was with a so-so opposition from the Gusanos on Calle Ocho.

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Not just South Florida, but pretty much any Republican in the southeastern U.S. was just handed a great big stick to beat Bernie with…

This is just the beginning.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:45:22am

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Jesus Christ on a motorized pogostick.

Bernie Sanders is DEFENDING the Castro regime? In Florida?

Not to bring up a sore subject, but Gore lost by 400 votes in 2000, and that was with a so-so opposition from the Gusanos on Calle Ocho.

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Not just South Florida, but pretty much any Republican in the southeastern U.S. was just handed a great big stick to beat Bernie with…

Gore “lost” because Elian Gonzalez’ mother perished on her fateful voyage to the United States and our government returned him to his father in Cuba. If not for that tragic event, the numbers would have not been so close and Gore would have coasted to victory.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:45:54am

re: #24 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

That does not excuse you from trying. (Also, what makes you think that? Consider the popularity of some Senators. We only need to pick up four seats.)

Oh, of course, absolutely. I’m just saying that the odds are if he’s won re-election, he’s kept hte Senate. That said getting back the Senate and retaining/increasing hte House is of utter most importance. That’s why I hope the nominee realizes that.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:48:41am

re: #28 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Oh, of course, absolutely. I’m just saying that the odds are if he’s won re-election, he’s kept hte Senate. That said getting back the Senate and retaining/increasing hte House is of utter most importance. That’s why I hope the nominee realizes that.

You are correct. There isn’t as much ticket splitting as there use to be.

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lawhawk  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:50:15am
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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:51:30am

re: #27 Hecuba’s daughter

Gore “lost” because Elian Gonzalez’ mother perished on her fateful voyage to the United States and our government returned him to his father in Cuba. If not for that tragic event, the numbers would have not been so close and Gore would have coasted to victory.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:51:38am

re: #29 NO SMOCKING GUN!

You are correct. There isn’t as much ticket splitting as there use to be.

Yeah it’s extremely unlikely that Trump wins and loses the Senate. I think it’s more likely that he loses and the R’s retain the Senate than the former but the most likely situation is Trump wins/R’s retain Senate/make gains in House, or Dems win/retain House/gain Senate. It’s why the comments mentioned above aren’t helpful. Three Florida Democrats who are in fairly tight districts won close elections and re-elections. KG’s right, there’s a way to discuss Cuba without this.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:54:46am

OK, this is a little harsh & nasty. But funny.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:55:23am

then this, LOLOLOLOLOLOL:

Cenk is a moron

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:57:10am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cenk is a moron

Cenk can bend his knee to Christy when he’s conceding.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:58:04am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 24, 2020 • 10:58:49am

re: #23 Joe Bacon 🌹

Frank Luntz has prepared a massive attack dossier on Sanders. This is a taste of what is to come from Luntz and it will be BRUTAL!

And yeah, from the previous thread, I *get* that the GOP is going to call any goddam Democrat a Commie because that’s just How They Do.

But fuckballs & funbags, don’t hand them a reasonable-media stick that all the Serious People on the Sunday morning shows can frown & nod seriously about. Six months of Tweetie and his crew moaning about how Real Americans just won’t vote for a Commie, and we’ll have a GOP landslide in the last election that will ever be held in the U.S.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:04:10am

re: #25 KGxvi

I’m Cuban, my mom came with her sister and parents with a suitcase between them in the 60s. A year after my uncle and his cousin came alone so they wouldn’t be conscripted as 12 year olds into Castro’s new army. I’ve got extended family that were Marielitos. You can talk about a new/better policy toward Cuba without offering praise to an authoritarian who killed thousands and exiled millions.

Respect (*thumps chest*)

I was in Cuba in ‘88, and it was the grimmest goddamn place I’ve ever been, and dude, I’ve been to Chernobyl, South Sudan & Azerbaijan.

I have good friends who live & try to work in Cuba, trying like hell to pry the fucking withered, evil claws of the bastards in the Cuban Communist party just a micron off the throats of ordinary people.

I am a full-throated leftie. But Communism does not work. Human nature just isn’t built that way. Free people living & working under common-sense regulations that APPLY TO ALL, especially towards breaking up monopolies, is the best system we’ve come up with, even if the Washington elites starting losing their goddam minds under Reagan and now the middle class is getting roto-fucked.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:04:17am

re: #31 BeenHereAwhile

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This is a lesson, too, that totally unexpected random events can change the course of history. For example, for this year, depending on how it plays out, it could be the coronavirus, assuming that it retains its global impact throughout the year. The Trump administration disbanded the pandemic readiness team — a careful handling of this flawed decision could land a devastating blow on the notion of Trump ability to look out for our nation.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:04:53am

re: #37 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

And yeah, from the previous thread, I *get* that the GOP is going to call any goddam Democrat a Commie because that’s just How They Do.

But fuckballs & funbags, don’t hand them a reasonable-media stick that all the Serious People on the Sunday morning shows can frown & nod seriously about. Six months of Tweetie and his crew moaning about how Real Americans just won’t vote for a Commie, and we’ll have a GOP landslide in the last election that will ever be held in the U.S.

Exactly, you make Sanders the nominee, this is going to be what we’re going to have to deal with. It annoys the crap out of me when Trump says nice things about how certain dictators are tough on drug dealers and I’m not going to give Bernie a pass because he praised a literacy program. If Bernie wanted to say that we need to normalize relations with Cuba because it would help democratic elements there, then I guarantee there wouldn’t be much outrage except for those who want outrage anyhow. And I guarantee that we will see the line of him saying he was disgusted by the sound of JFK’s voice at some point. It’ll be sick and cynical to see Trump citing JFK but Sanders may allow him to do that. We have to prevent that.

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lawhawk  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:05:30am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s always a goddamned tweet with these fuckers. Always. Sometimes in the same day.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:07:16am

re: #38 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Respect (*thumps chest*)

I was in Cuba in ‘88, and it was the grimmest goddamn place I’ve ever been, and dude, I’ve been to Chernobyl, South Sudan & Azerbaijan.

I have good friends who live & try to work in Cuba, trying like hell to pry the fucking withered, evil claws of the bastards in the Cuban Communist party just a micron off the throats of ordinary people.

I am a full-throated leftie. But Communism does not work. Human nature just isn’t built that way. Free people living & working under common-sense regulations that APPLY TO ALL, especially towards breaking up monopolies, is the best system we’ve come up with, even if the Washington elites starting losing their goddam minds under Reagan and now the middle class is getting roto-fucked.

There’s a reason why people risk their lives to come here. One of my biggest problems with Trump has been his hostility to refugees be they the result of economics, warfare, or politics and I’m not okay with saying “Well it wasn’t all bad” when you need a state that has a lot of people there who either they themselves or their parents or grandparents fled with their lives.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:12:09am

Bernie’s comments about Castro show someone who’s not able to say he’s changed his opinion, even when it would be politically advantageous. Apparently it’s not in him to come up with some kind of equivocal statement, like most politicians would. His followers see that as a strength, and that right there is the heart of the problem with Bernie, because we’re in a position where Democrats simply cannot afford to lose the next election. And winning elections does take someone who knows how to play this frustrating but necessary game.

And Fidel Castro was a murderous SOB, no matter what good he may have done. At the very least, Sanders should have acknowledged THAT much. It’s just amazingly tone deaf to phrase it like, “Well, he wasn’t ALL bad.”

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:13:27am

Meanwhile, Stephen Miller is quietly winning his War Against Brown People and the media still wants to focus on white guys wearing flannel sitting in midwestern diners as the bellwether for Real America

This is Ethnic Cleansing. And nobody in the New York studios of NBC, CBS or ABC has the balls to call it what it is.

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ericblair  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:13:42am

re: #41 lawhawk

There’s always a goddamned tweet with these fuckers. Always. Sometimes in the same day.

The dirtbag left are just a bunch of trust fund edgelord asshole bros. It’s all performance. As soon as they feel their wallets getting lightened, then The People can go fuck themselves. I’m glad he’s losing by a ton.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:16:36am

re: #43 Charles Johnson

And Fidel Castro was a murderous SOB, no matter what good he may have done. At the very least, Sanders should have acknowledged THAT much. It’s just amazingly tone deaf to phrase it like, “Well, he wasn’t ALL bad.”

Not just murderous. Utterly incompetent. Friends of mine in Havana have been working on a project to track the effects of the toxic waste left behind by the Soviets, that is poisoning & killing people.

An entire housing development was evacuated when lead & heavy metals were found in basically every surface, and that were killing & deforming children. And then, a year later, the people who fled were rounded up and forced back into the grim apartment blocks, because their continuing emptiness was politically embarassing, an undeniable daily demonstration of failure.

Fuck those murderous bastards.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:19:27am

It wasn’t just the Russians who helped Trump.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:21:07am

re: #47 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The girl on the right should never go out in the sun without wearing at least SPF 50.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:23:21am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cenk is a moron

Carpetbagger Cenk up to his old tricks!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:24:26am

re: #27 Hecuba’s daughter

Gore “lost” because Elian Gonzalez’ mother perished on her fateful voyage to the United States and our government returned him to his father in Cuba. If not for that tragic event, the numbers would have not been so close and Gore would have coasted to victory.

and that photo surfaced of a raid to seize Elian from his family and return him to his father, showing an armed cop pointing a gun at his shocked aunt…

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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:24:27am

re: #47 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It wasn’t just the Russians who helped Trump.

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How much can we rely on that report? The Spectator family of magazines isn’t quite so bad as The American Spectator, but the parent is still the best source of Tory cabinet ministers in the UK.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:27:53am

re: #44 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Meanwhile, Stephen Miller is quietly winning his War Against Brown People and the media still wants to focus on white guys wearing flannel sitting in midwestern diners as the bellwether for Real America

This is Ethnic Cleansing. And nobody in the New York studios of NBC, CBS or ABC has the balls to call it what it is.

The next president should appoint an all-minorty group to investigate Miller’s involvement in the government.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:28:05am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:29:01am

re: #46 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Not just murderous. Utterly incompetent. Friends of mine in Havana have been working on a project to track the effects of the toxic waste left behind by the Soviets, that is poisoning & killing people.

An entire housing development was evacuated when lead & heavy metals were found in basically every surface, and that were killing & deforming children. And then, a year later, the people who fled were rounded up and forced back into the grim apartment blocks, because their continuing emptiness was politically embarassing, an undeniable daily demonstration of failure.

Fuck those murderous bastards.

It really might have been one thing if Sanders had criticized the policy of refusing to have relations with Cuba while doing the dance routine we’ve done with China since Nixon recognized the PRC 48 years ago. However, he came off as very cavalier about what people like your friends and KG’s relatives have experienced in that interview. And I don’t think Castro was doing a literacy program out of decency, he needed some political capital. And what really bugs me is I feel like I can see a Republican ad coming using JFK’s voice that most Americans feel gives them pride juxtaposed with Bernie saying it made him sick and the line used here. I shouldn’t be able to be able to predict the Democratic frontrunner’s hit ads.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:29:05am

re: #51 Chrysicat

How much can we rely on that report? The Spectator family of magazines isn’t quite so bad as The American Spectator, but the parent is still the best source of Tory cabinet ministers in the UK.

I don’t know; I guess we’ll see if this story has legs.

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Interesting Times  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:29:11am

Were Bloomberg staff lurking here and seeing all those “if you have dirt on Bernie, drop it now” posts?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:29:30am

re: #53 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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I don’t have any use for Xi either.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:29:41am

re: #53 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It’s that how he said it in the interview?

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:31:06am

re: #56 Interesting Times

Were Bloomberg staff lurking here and seeing all those “if you have dirt on Bernie, drop it now” posts?

If anyone wants to whine about it, tell them this: It’s better it comes out now than after the nomination. He has time to deal with it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:31:28am

re: #58 Belafon

It’s that how he said it in the interview?

Yeah it came off as “Well people in Cuba supported Castro because of the literacy program.” I mean it’s easy to act like every Cuban exile was a former beneficiary of the Batista corruption but it also ignores that a lot of Cuban refugees are people who participated in the revolution and then turned against Fidel and his brother as it became more autocratic.

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Interesting Times  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:31:57am

re: #59 Belafon

If anyone wants to whine about it, tell them this: It’s better it comes out now than after the nomination. He has time to deal with it.

My thoughts exactly.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:33:49am

re: #61 Interesting Times

My thoughts exactly.

Exactly, vet him, see how he responds to this. He’s had three Florida Congresspeople condemn his remarks on this. Bernie’s nomination as a possibility impacts them too so don’t expect them to be silent especially since he’s being crowned the frontrunner.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:35:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:36:22am
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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:38:22am

re: #60 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah it came off as “Well people in Cuba supported Castro because of the literacy program.” I mean it’s easy to act like every Cuban exile was a former beneficiary of the Batista corruption but it also ignores that a lot of Cuban refugees are people who participated in the revolution and then turned against Fidel and his brother as it became more autocratic.

Anything like that is going to be complicated. If he was initially treating people better that what had come before, then of course they’re going to support him. But I suspect it waned after a while, because the initial results weren’t being sustained.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:39:19am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks like Cenk threw a fit when his staff wants to unionize!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:40:38am
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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:41:36am

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rich tastes gamey.

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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:41:39am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that photo surfaced of the raid, showing an armed cop pointing a gun at his shocked aunt…

It says a lot about the armed federal agent’s training that he didn’t shoot Al Diaz (who took the photograph) after being startled by the camera’s flash.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:41:42am

re: #65 Belafon

Anything like that is going to be complicated. If he was initially treating people better that what had come before, then of course they’re going to support him. But I suspect it waned after a while, because the initial results weren’t being sustained.

I actually watched that Netflix documentary on Cuba recently and I’ve taken a class on Latin American history. I am by NO means an expert on the subject but I think the revolution was an understandable consequence just as I think the Russian revolution was but the final product? Nope. It’s just like not everyone who fled the Russian Revolution was a Czarist or right winger. Hell, I think I read Ayn Rand started out as Menshivik and then completely repudiated any sort of welfare state system.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:42:19am

re: #66 Joe Bacon 🌹

Looks like Cenk threw a fit when his staff wants to unionize!

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Shades of Ralph Nader.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:45:19am
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lawhawk  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:45:22am

And yeah, just realized it’s 7 of 10 currently. He owns the top 5 worst point drops on his watch.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:46:22am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

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As I said, I could do without either of these two.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:47:22am

Two cannibals meet one day. The first cannibal says, “You know, I just can’t seem to get a tender Missionary. I’ve baked them, I’ve roasted them, I’ve stewed them, I’ve barbecued them, I’ve tried every sort of marinade. I just cannot seem to get them tender.”
The second cannibal asks, “What kind of Missionary do you use?”
The other replied, “You know, the ones that hang out at that place at the bend of the river. They have those brown cloaks with a rope around the waist and they’re sort of bald on top with a funny ring of hair on their heads.”
“Ah, ha!” the second cannibal replies. “No wonder. .. those are friars!”

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fern01  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:48:07am

re: #73 lawhawk

Market volatility under trump is higher than I have ever seen. The crash of 89 seems a minor incident in comparison.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:49:19am

re: #76 fern01

Market volatility under trump is higher than I have ever seen. The crash of 89 seems a minor incident in comparison.

I think some of that is the Administration spending a lot of money to prop the market up. It doesn’t last very long. We probably should already be in a decent Wall Street correction.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:51:05am

After actually listening to Bernie’s comment, it seems it wasn’t full throated support for the Castro regime after all. Much different from Trump’s love affair with murderous communist dictator Kim Jong-Un.

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lawhawk  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:51:23am

re: #77 Belafon

Trump’s entire mindset is to convince people the economy is doing swell and buying on credit. He says as much.

The reality is he’s racking up debt and nothing to show for it except millionaires getting rich from the tax cuts.

The economy isn’t growing any faster than under Obama when the TCJA didn’t exist and the GOP weren’t busy gutting the administrative state.

All Trump’s done is made redistribution of wealth to millionaires like himself easier, and the burdens shifted to everyone else.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:51:40am

re: #78 NO SMOCKING GUN!

American politics is rarely about nuance.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:52:58am

re: #80 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

American politics is rarely about nuance.

True and as usual, our side gets roasted for much less egregious behavior than what Trump engages in daily.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:53:01am

Bloomberg knows how to throw bombs on social media. Which can be a good thing. Hopefully whoever is the candidate can encourage Bloomberg to go after Trump like no one else ever has.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:53:18am

re: #77 Belafon

I think some of that is the Administration spending a lot of money to prop the market up. It doesn’t last very long. We probably should already be in a decent Wall Street correction.

the longer they artificially prop it up, the more it crashes, to the point that they have to intervene to artificially resuscitate it.

Like subsidizing agriculture and then paying to buy up surplus production.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:53:52am

re: #78 NO SMOCKING GUN!

After actually listening to Bernie’s comment, it seems it wasn’t full throated support for the Castro regime after all. Much different from Trump’s love affair with murderous communist dictator Kim Jong-Un.

ah, but you actually listened, which is not what 90% of the public is going to do

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William Lewis  Feb 24, 2020 • 11:55:00am

re: #75 Shropshire Slasher

Two chickens were talking the other day and the first one said “I’ve been thinking about going into the priesthood”
“Oh?” The second one goes. “Why is that?”
“I overheard Farmer Brown telling the missus that I would make a great friar.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:00:15pm

Based solely on the fivethirtyeight.com odds, which just upped the chances of Sanders winning a majority of the delegates to 51%, the best chance of stopping him is for everyone else to drop out and endorse Biden, since he has the support of the most Bernie skeptical Democrats, African-Americans. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Dread Pirate  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:00:44pm

Yee haw.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:01:21pm

Markets - not just futures, but equities, etc. - are supposed to be anticipative.

How much of the equity market today is the pricing of Bernie Sanders becoming President?

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lawhawk  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:02:51pm

re: #88 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

None.

And frankly the markets convulsing about coronavirus are also overblown IMO.

We have far more influenza cases being reported nationally and internationally with a far higher body count, and no one seems to pay that any mind. But this novel disease that basically operates the same way is garnering all the press (and conspiracy theories to boot).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:06:07pm

re: #88 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Markets - not just futures, but equities, etc. - are supposed to be anticipative.

How much of the equity market today is the pricing of Bernie Sanders becoming President?

I’ve heard it’s coronavirus, since it appears to be pandemic.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:06:24pm

re: #59 Belafon

And rest assured, he will deal with it in the most incompetent way.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:06:49pm

re: #89 lawhawk

I’m not sure. It is a quandary, how the markets will react to Bernie.

Regarding diseases - I made the case the other day that the flu is still likely to kill more people than the coronavirus. Overlooked quite a bit in this country, unless you or a family member are quite elderly, in which case the flu is a likely method of decease.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:07:20pm

re: #89 lawhawk

Also, there’s the conscienceless calculation that coronavirus is disrupting manufacturing in China because the specific response is to severely limit people’s activity. And South Korea is considering the same kind of safety procedures.

That’s the kind of thing that’s going to scare the market: the possibility of more and more disruption…what will Italy do as the hottest spot in Europe, or what happens if this turns up in a manufacturing center like, say, Jakarta….

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:08:14pm

re: #87 Dread Pirate

Yehaw.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:10:12pm

Oh, and the time for everyone to drop out and endorse Biden is right now, because he’s in a tight race with Bernie in SC, and if Sanders beats Joe there, it will become close to impossible to stop him.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:11:38pm

re: #95 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Oh, and the time for everyone to drop out and endorse Biden is right now, because he’s in a tight race with Bernie in SC, and if Sanders beats Joe there, it will become close to impossible to stop him.

What does polling look like in SC right now?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:11:58pm

re: #87 Dread Pirate

What the fuck kind of gun was that that it could “Accidentally” discharge and still manage to hit SEVEN people?

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William Lewis  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:15:32pm

re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg

Probably 9mm and the others were hit by knocked off framents and shrapnel.

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lawhawk  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:15:42pm

re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg

It was probably one person shot and injured by the bullet, and 7 others who were injured trying to run out of the area and hitting other people/objects on the way (aka trampling).Corrected after reading other articles, it may have involved alcohol and multiple shots fired.

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danarchy  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:15:55pm

re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg

What the fuck kind of gun was that that it could “Accidentally” discharge and still manage to hit SEVEN people?

Probably people injured in the ensuing chaos as people tried to get out.

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danarchy  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:17:25pm

re: #96 Belafon

What does polling look like in SC right now?

pretty tight according to the RCP average, Biden is up on Bernie by about 3 points.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:18:59pm

I really wish our discourse was not so stupid.

Trump speaks wistfully of his dictator buddies’ extrajudicial killings and it’s all good, but Sanders says - correctly - that Castro did something popular that helped consolidate his power by more than just brutal repression, and suddenly he’s “praising Castro”.

It’s a bit farfetched to think that Castro is alone among the world’s dictators in having no support among the people of his country, and that he maintained power SOLELY through brutal repression. Plus, you know, there’s a reason why Cubans supported revolution 60 years ago. It’s ridiculous that we even have to have this conversation, but because Cuban Americans are a key demographic in Florida, we have to pretend that Castro was uniquely bad, compared to all the other dictators.

And I can say ALL THAT without supporting Castro.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:20:17pm

re: #96 Belafon

What does polling look like in SC right now?

According to 538, Sanders has a slightly better chance of winning than Biden, but it’s basically a toss-up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:21:26pm

re: #103 NO SMOCKING GUN!

According to 538, Sanders has a slightly better chance of winning than Biden, but it’s basically a toss-up.

Like I said yesterday, there’s a reason Biden has never been nominated before.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:22:29pm

re: #73 lawhawk

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And yeah, just realized it’s 7 of 10 currently. He owns the top 5 worst point drops on his watch.

The only thing that matters is percentage change NOT point change. The 500 point drop in 1987 was 22%; a 500 point drop today would be about 2%. Absolute numbers are meaningless in this situation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:22:37pm

re: #89 lawhawk

None.

And frankly the markets convulsing about coronavirus are also overblown IMO.

We have far more influenza cases being reported nationally and internationally with a far higher body count, and no one seems to pay that any mind. But this novel disease that basically operates the same way is garnering all the press (and conspiracy theories to boot).

If the market is already in need of correction, something like the CV is going to precipitate the snap. And the global world just-in-time trade and manufacturing system is going to see a serious shock when it can no longer rely on its established sources and timetables.
I just read that a number of major electronics trade fairs have been cancelled, as much out of fear of spreading the virus as out of fear that companies will not be able to supply the new products they are planning to launch there.

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terraincognita  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:22:58pm

re: #96 Belafon

South Carolina Poll (released 23 Feb 20)
CBS News/YouGov

Biden 28
Sanders 23
Steyer 18
Warren 12
Buttigieg 10
Klobuchar 4
Gabbard 1

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:25:12pm

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If the market is already in need of correction, something like the CV is going to precipitate the snap. And the global world just-in-time trade and manufacturing system is going to see a serious shock when it can no longer rely on its established sources and timetables.

If there is a recession, I hope it happens in time to hurt Trump’s reelection bid. Not that I want a recession, but timing is everything.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:27:03pm

re: #108 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If there is a recession, I hope it happens in time to hurt Trump’s reelection bid. Not that I want a recession, but timing is everything.

If the economy is doing well it will only help the incumbent.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:27:45pm

re: #89 lawhawk

None.

And frankly the markets convulsing about coronavirus are also overblown IMO.

We have far more influenza cases being reported nationally and internationally with a far higher body count, and no one seems to pay that any mind. But this novel disease that basically operates the same way is garnering all the press (and conspiracy theories to boot).

Yes — it’s true that seasonal flu so far kills many more BUT we don’t know as yet how far this disease will spread and what its mortality rate is. The speculation by the experts is 2% — and if that is true and COVID-19 becomes as prevalent as normal seasonal flu, it will kill 20 x as many people as the flu. Until we know for sure, this disease has to be treated with the utmost caution.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:28:07pm

re: #105 Hecuba’s daughter

The only thing that matters is percentage change NOT point change. The 500 point drop in 1987 was 22%; a 500 point drop today would be about 2%. Absolute numbers are meaningless in this situation.

Also, the larger the market, the bigger the point drops, so saying Trump has 7 of the 10 biggest point drops is like saying Obama got more votes than anyone before him - there were more votes to get than ever before.

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CarolJ  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:28:44pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

The reason why this is an issue is that for decades certain parts of the American Left have in turn longed for a Benevolent Dictator who was all of the socialist dream without the messy stuff of elections and having to convince people who were not “enlightened”. So they turned a blind eye to the repression. Literacy means little if they tell you what to read and censor the books. Or throw writers and such in jail for daring to write something that the regime doesn’t like.

This is true in China as well-and by the way, they praised Mao too until China at least tried capitalism with a mean face.

Each new revolutionary in turn gets praised until the purgings start, or they prove to be less than woke.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:31:13pm

re: #112 CarolJ

The reason why this is an issue is that for decades certain parts of the American Left have in turn longed for a Benevolent Dictator who was all of the socialist dream without the messy stuff of elections and having to convince people who were not “enlightened”. So they turned a blind eye to the repression. Literacy means little if they tell you what to read and censor the books. Or throw writers and such in jail for daring to write something that the regime doesn’t like.

This is true in China as well-and by the way, they praised Mao too until China at least tried capitalism with a mean face.

Each new revolutionary in turn gets praised until the purgings start, or they prove to be less than woke.

The reason why it’s an issue is that for as long as I’ve been alive, the Right has exaggerated just how large those “certain parts of the American Left” have been, while overlooking the fact that those revolutions did not overthrow benevolent egalitarian democracies.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:31:44pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:33:06pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:33:56pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

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Was he auditioning for the New Zoo Revue?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:34:54pm

JFC!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:35:51pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

JFC!

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My former AG y’all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:36:02pm

re: #112 CarolJ

Each new revolutionary in turn gets praised until the purgings start, or they prove to be less than woke.

counterrevolutionaries supported by foreign governments…

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:36:07pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Also, the larger the market, the bigger the point drops, so saying Trump has 7 of the 10 biggest point drops is like saying Obama got more votes than anyone before him - there were more votes to get than ever before.

Or it’s like saying that a $10,000 drop in income for someone earning a million annually is more meaningful than a drop of $5000 is to someone earning $20,000. For the millionaire, the decline is not noticeable, for the poor worker it has a disastrous effect.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:37:34pm

re: #120 Hecuba’s daughter

Or it’s like saying that a $10,000 drop in income for someone earning a million annually is more meaningful than a drop of $5000 is to someone earning $20,000. For the millionaire, the decline is not noticeable, for the poor worker it has a disastrous effect.

“He paid $10 Million in taxes!” Yeah. On $100 Million in income!

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:39:28pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

JFC!

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Hopefully FoxNews will put up a graphic soon. Shame he has no other data at his disposal?

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BeachDem  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:39:44pm

I don’t think anyone’s dropping out before the SC primary. Here are just some of the events going on this week. Hidden to avoid boring many.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:39:53pm

re: #116 Joe Bacon 🌹

Was he auditioning for the New Zoo Revue?

Has a TV that kinda looks it came from that era. Ours at that time had a bigger cabinet because there was a turntable on one end and a radio/8-track player on the other. With the TV between speakers facing front.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:41:15pm

re: #123 BeachDem

I don’t think anyone’s dropping out before the SC primary. Here are just some of the events going on this week. Hidden to avoid boring many.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:42:00pm

We should just get Bernie to drop out, that would be easier!

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William Lewis  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:42:59pm

re: #113 Blind Frog Belly White

The reason why it’s an issue is that for as long as I’ve been alive, the Right has exaggerated just how large those “certain parts of the American Left” have been, while overlooking the fact that those revolutions did not overthrow benevolent egalitarian democracies.

And the right has bern pushing and praising dictators ever since they turned their backs on reconstruction. There is a reason that few if any Republicans would say ill about Pinochet and wish they could murder leftists as openly for daring to oppose them.

Bah, this is why I spent all Sunday just buried in my photography…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:43:01pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

JFC!

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Somebody tell Ken that he can pick up the telephone and call

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lawhawk  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:44:16pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

Same admin that thinks we don’t need embassy staffers assembling news and gathering intel - it’s something they can get from the internet.

These fuckers are dangerously clueless.

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BeachDem  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:45:56pm

re: #125 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:46:01pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:46:36pm

re: #127 William Lewis

And the right has bern pushing and praising dictators ever since they turned their backs on reconstruction. There is a reason that few if any Republicans would say ill about Pinochet and wish they could murder leftists as openly for daring to oppose them.

Bah, this is why I spent all Sunday just buried in my photography…

“It’s not repression if Anaconda Copper is doing well!”

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CarolJ  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:47:11pm

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not necessarily so. Some people go crazy with power. Some schemes trample over human and property rights. And the messianic zeal takes some over to the point they forget their humanity.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:48:49pm

re: #130 BeachDem

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:52:28pm

re: #133 CarolJ

Not necessarily so. Some people go crazy with power. Some schemes trample over human and property rights. And the messianic zeal takes some over to the point they forget their humanity.

“We just need to leave the military in charge, while we wait for things to calm down enough to hold free elections!” - every successful revolutionary movement.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:52:48pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

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[ETA: I literally had just seen the Dave Fahrenholt tweet a few seconds before, so I didn’t realize it was the same thing.]
Holy shit. Maybe it’s the Roy Room:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:54:10pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:55:49pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

JFC!

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:56:51pm

Does anyone think Trump can pronounce Narendra?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 12:59:05pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:01:29pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Since most convicted rapists are male, ‘accepting the verdict like a man’ would seem par for the course.

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aatharuv  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:03:47pm

re: #139 jaunte

No, I doubt he can pronounce Narendra, but he can tweet in Hindi how he’s going to meet everyone when he goes to India. Everyone.

He can also invite them to the Trump Taj Mahal for Diwali, instead of going to the original Taj Mahal, which Indians of course always go to for Diwali*.

Oh wait, he can’t do that anymore..

*When the Trump Taj Mahal opened up 30 years back, he basically said that very thing.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:03:58pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Christ.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:04:45pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:08:19pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:10:11pm

. re: #145 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Weed and Whiskey.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:13:18pm

^^THIS^^

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:15:03pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:19:13pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But Trump capitalized every letter in troops in a tweet once.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:19:47pm

re: #149 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

But Trump capitalized every letter in troops in a tweet once.

They make excellent props.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:20:18pm

$17,000 a month for a cottage. JFC.

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CarolJ  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:21:40pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Probably not. The “cause” is more important than employee health and safety, more important than paying a living wage. If you work yourself into the hospital due to exhaustion or lose your marriage because of too much overtime it’s all good. Psychic benefits are supposed to make up for other benefits.

Of course this isn’t true for the heads of the venture, who go home after 8 hours and 5 days of work, can take vacations and get a good bulky amount for what they do.
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lawhawk  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:22:13pm

re: #151 jaunte

Bigger question - why the jump in costs to Secret Service at Corruptalago between 2018 and 2019. If they were being charged bare-bones rate (cost), why go from $396 to $650 per night.

Put simply, they’re gouging and racking up the costs with taxpayers filling Trump’s personal coffers.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:24:30pm

re: #153 lawhawk

Other way (they dropped the rate) but yes, why did it start at 650 and then get cut?

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Cheechako  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:25:21pm

O.K. everyone. Time for an afternoon/early evening sanity break. Enjoy:

What the sourdough bathtub controversy of 1946 tells us about changing times in Alaska

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:25:35pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is it because Democrats refuse to use troops as props that Republicans can get away with this stuff?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:26:29pm
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Kilroy was here  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:30:34pm
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lawhawk  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:31:06pm

re: #154 jaunte

You sure? That looks like 2017 and 2018, not 2018 and 2019.

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gocart mozart  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:35:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:39:23pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:42:11pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:43:15pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I have a question. If Bernie hated the Dem establishment so much. Why did he let the DSCC give him money in 2006 when he first ran for Senate. Bernie’s revealed himself to be a hypocrite time and time again. He whines about identity politics but yet has his surrogates use the race card when they’re criticized. And I hope someone hits him on this but his double standard about gun manufacturing liabilty is completely inconsistent with his other positions. The dirty truth about Bernie Sanders is he is what people hate about politicians but he’s selling a generation of young people that he’s not a typical politician. He very much is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:44:52pm
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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:47:01pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

The DOW lost 3.56%, down 1031.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:48:00pm

re: #163 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I have a question. If Bernie hated the Dem establishment so much. Why did he let the DSCC give him money in 2006 when he first ran for Senate. Bernie’s revealed himself to be a hypocrite time and time again. He whines about identity politics but yet has his surrogates use the race card when they’re criticized. And I hope someone hits him on this but his double standard about gun manufacturing liabilty is completely inconsistent with his other positions. The dirty truth about Bernie Sanders is he is what people hate about politicians but he’s selling a generation of young people that he’s not a typical politician. He very much is.

But a typical politician is far less dangerous in office than a revolutionary who actually plans on bringing the house down. OTOH, he may be typical but he doesn’t possess the congenial personality or ability to play well with others that allows a typical politician to accomplish their objectives.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:48:26pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:50:02pm

re: #166 Hecuba’s daughter

But a typical politician is far less dangerous in office than a revolutionary who actually plans on bringing the house down. OTOH, he may be typical but he doesn’t possess the congenial personality or ability to play well with others that allows a typical politician to accomplish their objectives.

Sure but I mean he’s a typical politician in he plays the same political games that people profess to hate about politicians. But you are right, he has no political skills. He’s been in Congress since 1990 and he has little legislation to his name and yet he’s running on radical change. I don’t buy him being effective and I especially don’t when he has the entourage around him that he does that doesn’t encourage challenging the old man on anything and just making him feel like he’s a great hero.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:50:27pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

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God I hate him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:51:33pm

it’s like 3 or 4 am or so in India, and the moron is tweet storming

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gocart mozart  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:52:12pm
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sagehen  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:57:28pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why would the Secret Service need hotel rooms in the city their HQ (and the agents’ homes) are located?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:57:37pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 1:59:23pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good. Can’t wait for the debate and hopefully for Biden to call him on it directly. Bernie was willing to risk us getting Romney because Obama wasn’t good enough for him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:00:34pm

If I am not mistaken todays drop in the DOW was the second largest single day drop ever.

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gocart mozart  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:01:07pm

Early Blondie cover

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:01:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:04:31pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:08:03pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:10:36pm

re: #181 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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The hell is wrong with them

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:11:13pm

re: #177 Eclectic Cyborg

If I am not mistaken todays drop in the DOW was the second largest single day drop ever.

And who knew convicting Harvey would cause such a drop?!

/1/3 since I could be right.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:17:17pm

re: #182 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There is a possible link between how humans contracted the coronavirus and contact with an animal with the current variant of the virus.

But PETA runs with that.

BTW, humans exchange all sorts of pathogens with other animals.

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JC1  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:18:40pm

re: #177 Eclectic Cyborg

If I am not mistaken todays drop in the DOW was the second largest single day drop ever.

Only point wise, which makes headlines but is meaningless. Percentage drop is a much better measure, and today’s drop is probably not in the top 100 by that measure.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:26:25pm

re: #185 JC1

Only point wise, which makes headlines but is meaningless. Percentage drop is a much better measure, and today’s drop is probably not in the top 100 by that measure.

Probably the best measure is to look at one’s own portfolio (if one is fortunate to have such) and its value. Look at the drop in that value as a fraction of you annual income or expected/desired income. That will tell you how meaningful such group (e.g., DJIA, S&P, etc.) are to you.

Because not only have the groups been redefined over time but the value of the dollar has change, in regards to what one dollar means to a person. It meant a lot a century ago, but today a dollar is like the dandruff we shake out of our hair.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:40:08pm

miami herald

tangentially related to coronavirus but more directly to the trump admin rollback of parts of the ACA and junk insurance that’s filling the vacuum

In 2018, President Donald Trump’s administration rolled back Affordable Care Act regulations and allowed so-called “junk plans” in the market. Consumers mistakenly assume that the plans with lower monthly costs will be better than no insurance at all in case of a medical catastrophe, but often the plans aren’t very different from going without insurance altogether.

Hospital officials at Jackson told the Miami Herald that, based on his insurance, Azcue would only be responsible for $1,400 of that bill, but Azcue said he heard from his insurer that he would also have to provide additional documentation: three years of medical records to prove that the flu he got didn’t relate to a preexisting condition.

sure. that’s how they sell this nonsense.
if you have a preexisting condition you can get insurance, so yeah, ‘you’re covered’.
but the plan wont pay anything

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:48:19pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is there someone out there telling the ‘bots and morons to push the “the Dow falling is great, buy low, sell high” spin? This blip is irrelevant in the long term; anyone with oodles of spare cash is already in the market, who are these phantom buyers (that don’t exist)?

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gocart mozart  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:53:53pm
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:54:56pm

re: #188 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Is there someone out there telling the ‘bots and morons to push the “the Dow falling is great, buy low, sell high” spin? This blip is irrelevant in the long term; anyone with oodles of spare cash is already in the market, who are these phantom buyers (that don’t exist)?

and anyone smart enough to ‘buy low, sell high” must have sold off before the drop today, right? i mean they knew, didnt they? being clairvoyant and all.

otherwise how do you know when ‘low’ and ‘high’ are?
oh wait, you’re just guessing, like everyone else
because if anyone had the secret their statements wouldn’t all read:
“past performance is not an indication of future results”

:-|

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:56:21pm

re: #187 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

miami herald

tangentially related to coronavirus but more directly to the trump admin rollback of parts of the ACA and junk insurance that’s filling the vacuum

sure. that’s how they sell this nonsense.
if you have a preexisting condition you can get insurance, so yeah, ‘you’re covered’.
but the plan wont pay anything

Being poor is no excuse for not having GOOD health insurance. I wonder if he did not try the exchange for the lowest price ACA bronze plan in his state.

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JC1  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:56:34pm

re: #188 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Is there someone out there telling the ‘bots and morons to push the “the Dow falling is great, buy low, sell high” spin? This blip is irrelevant in the long term; anyone with oodles of spare cash is already in the market, who are these phantom buyers (that don’t exist)?

Despite near all time highs in the markets, there’s a lot of money on the sidelines, though I doubt this dip would make anyone want to jump in and buy. Commodity markets are pricing for a recession, and until today equities were in lala land. Amazing amount of complacency. Though I guess that’s what you get when you get when we’ve had QE by various names going on for the better part of the decade.

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calochortus  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:56:36pm

re: #188 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Is there someone out there telling the ‘bots and morons to push the “the Dow falling is great, buy low, sell high” spin? This blip is irrelevant in the long term; anyone with oodles of spare cash is already in the market, who are these phantom buyers (that don’t exist)?

Bottom fishing. What a great strategy. However some Freepers are all over it since everything works together to show Trump is a genius.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:56:42pm

re: #189 The Ghost of a Flea

Limbaugh: Democrats who set up George W. Bush to go to war with Iraq now organizing ‘silent coup’ against Trump

so bush was an easily manipulatable idiot?
was cheney asleep for 8 years?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 24, 2020 • 2:58:27pm

re: #189 The Ghost of a Flea

Limbaugh: Democrats who set up George W. Bush to go to war with Iraq now organizing ‘silent coup’ against Trump

Yeah they set him up by *looks at notes* being the minority party in Congress. Fuck off Rush. You were chastising Iraq War critics as terrorist sympathizers. You don’t get to retcon yourself as an opponent.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:01:09pm

re: #190 gocart mozart

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OK, I hadn’t seen the “Hilary Clinton is not in jail yet” part. I LOL’d.

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calochortus  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:08:16pm

Privated because I’m just whining.

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gocart mozart  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:09:17pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:21:54pm

re: #86 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Based solely on the fivethirtyeight.com odds, which just upped the chances of Sanders winning a majority of the delegates to 51%, the best chance of stopping him is for everyone else to drop out and endorse Biden, since he has the support of the most Bernie skeptical Democrats, African-Americans. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

I told Scarborough to fuck off when he said it.

Now I’m going to tell you that screwing over Warren like that is unforgivable, and that the real best chance of stopping Bernie is a brokered convention. A one-on-one race prolly gets him on the first ballot instead.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:23:06pm

Two polls out of Kentucky:

Garin-Hart-Yang:
Amy McGrath (D) 40%
Mitch McConnell (R) 43%
Brad Barron (L) 5%
Undecided (12%)

Change Research
Amy McGrath (D) 41%
Mitch McConnell (R) 41%
Brad Barron (L). 7%
Undecided 11%

MOE’s are 3.5%.

Details here: dailykos.com.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:24:31pm

re: #200 Chrysicat

I told Scarborough to fuck off when he said it.

Now I’m going to tell you that screwing over Warren like that is unforgivable, and that the real best chance of stopping Bernie is a brokered convention. A one-on-one race prolly gets him on the first ballot instead.

Nationally, among Democrats, Warren is second, so it would seem to make more sense for everyone else but her to drop out.

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William Lewis  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:29:45pm

re: #178 gocart mozart

Early Blondie cover

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Damn she was good looking then and still is today.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:33:58pm

OK, I am honestly surprised he’s going to Rikers until March 11th
Obviously, they’ll be keeping him in the hospital ward

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:36:50pm

re: #196 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah they set him up by *looks at notes* being the minority party in Congress. Fuck off Rush. You were chastising Iraq War critics as terrorist sympathizers. You don’t get to retcon yourself as an opponent.

Mr. Anal Cyst can go to hell. I have NO sympathy at all for him. I will celebrate when that pig gets his dirt nap!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:37:18pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:44:09pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:45:22pm

re: #204 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

OK, I am honestly surprised he’s going to Rikers until March 11th
Obviously, they’ll be keeping him in the hospital ward

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:47:04pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:49:15pm

re: #209 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Because who the fuck cares if more people die so long as Trump gets back into the White House?

Most Anti-american President ever.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:55:13pm

re: #203 William Lewis

Damn she was good looking then and still is today.

Yep. I like Blondie’s version of “Hanging on the Telephone,” but I like The Nerves original better:

The Nerves - Hanging On The Telephone, Original version 45, Blondie. 1976.

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BeachDem  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:56:00pm

re: #202 Belafon

Nationally, among Democrats, Warren is second, so it would seem to make more sense for everyone else but her to drop out.

As someone pointed out yesterday, Bill Clinton won ONE of the first 11 primaries in 1992 and at that point had 85 delegates, trailing Tsongas with 170, Harkin with 145 and just ahead of Brown with 70.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:58:34pm

re: #212 BeachDem

As someone pointed out yesterday, Bill Clinton won ONE of the first 11 primaries in 1992 and at that point had 85 delegates, trailing Tsongas with 170, Harkin with 145 and just ahead of Brown with 70.

Saw that. I was just commenting on the of who should remain if the non-Bernie candidates were to drop out. It is still too early to write anyone off right now. I think the right answer is look at who blacks are supporting. If they’re definitive, that person will be the nominee. If they’re as muddled as the rest of us, we’re going to the convention.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 24, 2020 • 3:59:39pm

re: #209 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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At least he isn’t always campaigning like that … Obama did!

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:03:48pm

re: #214 Eventual Carrion

At least he isn’t always campaigning like that … Obama did!

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Trump got around the complaint against Obama—that he used the personal pronoun “I” too much—by replacing all personal pronouns when convenient with “America” or “USA.”

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:07:04pm

Harvey Weinstein is in Rikers, rhymes with bikers, which makes me think of this:

The Jim Carroll Band “People Who Died”

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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:08:04pm
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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:17:07pm

I was told there would be cinnamon peeps

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:24:24pm

Thanks Trump!

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:25:01pm

re: #218 Shropshire Slasher

I was told there would be cinnamon peeps

Dow has to lose 2,000 before we really celebrate! ////

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:25:24pm

re: #198 calochortus

Privated because I’m just whining.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:26:48pm

re: #220 Barefoot Grin

Dow has to lose 2,000 before we really celebrate! ////

I grabbed some root beer peeps instead

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:27:57pm

re: #219 Patricia Kayden

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Dread Pirate  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:28:44pm
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KGxvi  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:29:44pm

re: #212 BeachDem

As someone pointed out yesterday, Bill Clinton won ONE of the first 11 primaries in 1992 and at that point had 85 delegates, trailing Tsongas with 170, Harkin with 145 and just ahead of Brown with 70.

Difference between then and now is that in 1992 on March 3 (the first mini-Super Tuesday after the first four), there were 304 delegates at stake. This time around, there’s 1,344 at stake (a third of the total delegates at stake in the race). We are basically going to either have a Democratic nominee by next Wednesday or we will be looking at a brokered convention of some sort.

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danarchy  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:32:47pm

re: #213 Belafon

Saw that. I was just commenting on the of who should remain if the non-Bernie candidates were to drop out. It is still too early to write anyone off right now. I think the right answer is look at who blacks are supporting. If they’re definitive, that person will be the nominee. If they’re as muddled as the rest of us, we’re going to the convention.

At this point why would anyone drop out before super Tuesday? It is a week away and 1/3 of the delegates are up for grabs. After super Tuesday if we have more than 3 candidates moving forward(not counting Tulsi) I will be surprised.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:33:30pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:34:50pm

I can’t explain why Matthews still has a job

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calochortus  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:35:34pm

re: #223 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I suspect he means we should buy, buy, buy!

However, it occurs to me that being “in contact with everyone” is not necessarily what you want when you’re talking about a possible pandemic. (And yes, I know that doesn’t mean in physical contact.)

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:36:53pm

But climate change is a Chinese hoax.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:39:14pm

WTFITS

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calochortus  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:41:30pm

re: #231 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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I think they lost him at “the dignity of labor.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:42:48pm

Seriously get the man a wheelchair. He is literally using Melania as a crutch.

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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:46:49pm

re: #224 Dread Pirate

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:48:59pm

re: #231 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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He better watch out. That spinning wheel looks like a windmill. He might get cancer.

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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:50:07pm

re: #233 The Pie Overlord!

Seriously get the man a wheelchair. He is literally using Melania as a crutch.

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I didn’t see it. They were holding hands the entire time after leaving the bench area, but while I can’t understand how she can tolerate that type of forced intimacy in public, I didn’t see him placing all or even most of his weight on that held hand.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:51:53pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:54:53pm

re: #236 Chrysicat

I didn’t see it. They were holding hands the entire time after leaving the bench area, but while I can’t understand how she can tolerate that type of forced intimacy in public, I didn’t see him placing all or even most of his weight on that held hand.

He is squashing her hand. They are not holding hands like young lovers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:57:01pm

I got a clickbait-y WebMD email, “Warning Signs of Lung Cancer”, and the first warning sign I thought of was having something like this in your house…

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:57:44pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 4:59:10pm

re: #238 The Pie Overlord!

He is squashing her hand. They are not holding hands like young lovers.

That’s abuse. I wasn’t denying that. I’m denying that he was leaning all his weight into that side.

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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:00:58pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:02:37pm

So this clip came across my TL and I’m like OH NOE NOT MOAR BELGIAN CARNIVAL but it’s an actual Jewish wedding.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:02:39pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:05:36pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:09:12pm
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aatharuv  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:10:18pm

re: #244 jaunte

Wow that’s a butchering of Swami Vivekananda even for him, assuming that’s who he was referring to.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:14:36pm

LIttle-known famous Swami Vivekamunund.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:15:08pm

Vivekamnuchin?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:15:30pm

So apparently, Rush’s take on a disease that’s killed a couple thousand people already amounts to….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:17:51pm

re: #249 jaunte

Vivekamnuchin?

Viveca Lindfors?

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BeachDem  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:18:00pm

re: #227 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I thought that happened 7 years ago:

MAY 10, 2013
We hit a new carbon dioxide milestone yesterday:
Scientific monitors reported that the gas had reached an average daily level that surpassed 400 parts per million

motherjones.com

motherjones.com

Maybe I’m confused (hey)—climate science not really my strong point.

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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:27:08pm

Aaaand in addition if we ever got out of it today, we were already into overnight mode by 20:00.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:34:12pm
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BeachDem  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:34:13pm

re: #252 BeachDem

I thought that happened 7 years ago:

MAY 10, 2013
We hit a new carbon dioxide milestone yesterday:
Scientific monitors reported that the gas had reached an average daily level that surpassed 400 parts per million

motherjones.com

motherjones.com

Maybe I’m confused (hey)—climate science not really my strong point.

Welp, the NBC story acknowledges the 2013 event and says
what was once seen as an alarming threshold has now become business as usual. This year, scientists are forecasting that atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide will likely peak at around 417 ppm, signifying that for every 1 million molecules of gas in the atmosphere, 417 are carbon dioxide.

So the story was right, but the tweet was weird.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:40:37pm

re: #250 Blind Frog Belly White

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So apparently, Rush’s take on a disease that’s killed a couple thousand people already amounts to….

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Uh, no. rhinovirus cause the common cold.

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sagehen  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:40:50pm

re: #255 BeachDem

Welp, the NBC story acknowledges the 2013 event and says
what was once seen as an alarming threshold has now become business as usual. This year, scientists are forecasting that atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide will likely peak at around 417 ppm, signifying that for every 1 million molecules of gas in the atmosphere, 417 are carbon dioxide.

So the story was right, but the tweet was weird.

I seem to remember that too much carbon dioxide/not enough oxygen… makes people stupid. Before it gets bad enough to make people pass out, it makes them unable to process information and make rational decisions.

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mmmirele  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:42:59pm

re: #231 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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It’s a charkha. It’s a symbol of Indian independence. The wheel of the charkha is on the Indian flag. Gandhi had people spin their own cotton and weave their own cloth to break the control of the British over fabric production. (Cotton was sent to Britain, spun and woven into fabric and then sent back.) This is a rather fancy charkha, but I’ve lusted after a book charkha in the past. Cotton is very different than wool or flax to spin. It has very short (by comparison) fibers and needs a small wheel so that you can get more revolutions per minute to get enough spin to keep the cotton together in a thread.

Probably more than you ever wanted to know about charkhas…oh, you mean the bozo people? No idea.

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uriel  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:48:24pm

re: #181 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:50:12pm

Sorry but I’m not an Assange fan. He has supported rightwing fascists in Europe and here in the U.S. I don’t get the lefty love for him.

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retired cynic  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:54:03pm

Justice Sotomayor Just Called Out the Supreme Court’s Conservatives for Being White House Errand Boys Charlie Pierce

Make no mistake. In this dissent, Justice Sotomayor is calling out the new 5-4 conservative majority—which includes Chief Justice John Roberts—for being White House errand boys. This is an astonishing development. You simply do not ever see this kind of attack on the Court’s objectivity from inside the temple. And the hell of it all is that she’s right. There was no reason for the Court to act so precipitously on this noxious principle except to do the White House’s bidding, and, by doing the White House’s bidding in this way, the 5-4 majority submarined the authority of the appellate system all the way down through the federal judiciary.

There was a time when I actually believed that Roberts cared enough about the institution over which he presides that he never would let it become an adjunct chop-shop to a criminal enterprise. Madame Justice Sotomayor just told me how wrong I was. I stand corrected.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2020 • 5:55:38pm

re: #181 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

PETA runs slaughterhouses for unwanted pets so it’s strange to see them pontificating.

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garzooma  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:00:46pm

re: #260 Patricia Kayden

Sorry but I’m not an Assange fan. He has supported rightwing fascists in Europe and here in the U.S. I don’t get the lefty love for him.

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Assange recently revealed that Trumpist Dana Rohrabacher offered a pardon in return for testifying that Russia wasn’t the source of the stolen DNC material. Apparently, it didn’t occur to Rohrsbacher to offer, or to Assange to suggest, that Trump pardon the DNC operative who was supposed to be the source rather than Russia. Probably because outside of the marks, everyone understands that he doesn’t exist.

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aatharuv  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:00:51pm

re: #258 mmmirele

It’s a charkha. It’s a symbol of Indian independence. The wheel of the charkha is on the Indian flag.

Just a minor clarification — the charkha is not actually what’s on the Indian flag. A different type of wheel known as the Ashoka chakra, or the wheel of justice is what’s actually on the flag, named after the Indian emperor Ashoka.

The charka, though, is a symbol of independence, and India’s Congress party (which led the independence struggle, and ruled India for most of it’s time post-independence), still has it on it’s flag.

But it’s easy to confuse the two, especially given their similar names and functions.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:01:26pm

Latest corona virus numbers.

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retired cynic  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:03:22pm

Juanita Jean: “As an aside, people are suggesting the fear that Trump won’t leave the White House if he’s defeated in 2020. I used to hear the same rumors from Republicans about Barack Obama. Trump will leave the White House. I personally know a goat roper with the instincts of a mountain lion and a horse named Prissy who who will bring that piece of livestock out the front door while you time her.”

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:05:26pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:06:16pm
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uriel  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:09:40pm

re: #267 Belafon

I’m not entirely sure that picture is helping, unless the goal is terrifying small children into persistent phobias that Jack Black is hiding under their bed.

(I kid! I kid!)

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:12:43pm

re: #269 uriel

I’m not entirely sure that picture is helping, unless the goal is terrifying small children into persistent phobias that Jack Black is hiding under their bed.

(I kid! I kid!)

Jack, I don’t think there will be a remake of Lord of the Rings.

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retired cynic  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:16:24pm

#Wattlegate: Is the President Digitally Touching Up His Neck? An Investigation The Rude Pundit

OMG, DT is having his videos airbrushed! It is so weird!

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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:18:14pm

re: #269 uriel

I’m not entirely sure that picture is helping, unless the goal is terrifying small children into persistent phobias that Jack Black is hiding under their bed.

(I kid! I kid!)

But seriously, he makes Alan Moore look non-threatening by comparison.

And before she transitioned, Ghastly made very clear what she thought of that idea.

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stpaulbear  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:18:23pm

re: #260 Patricia Kayden

Sorry but I’m not an Assange fan. He has supported rightwing fascists in Europe and here in the U.S. I don’t get the lefty love for him.

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Well if Waters wants him, he can have him and keep him in England. Waters can be kind of a dick too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:19:32pm

re: #271 retired cynic

#Wattlegate: Is the President Digitally Touching Up His Neck? An Investigation The Rude Pundit

OMG, DT is having his videos airbrushed! It is so weird!

#Wattlegate …I love it!

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:20:04pm

re: #271 retired cynic

What do you expect from DT? Mr Reality TV Star of course would have his videos and photographs retouched. He has also had interviewer’s videos edited to make himself sound better.

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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:20:31pm

re: #260 Patricia Kayden

Sorry but I’m not an Assange fan. He has supported rightwing fascists in Europe and here in the U.S. I don’t get the lefty love for him.

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Very simply put? Because once we get to the Image: 85zorfdjbwi41.jpg types, they want to believe the “Clinton body count” as much as the right does, because it makes it easier to rationalise that yes, they want gulags, “but the centre wants us dead”.

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stpaulbear  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:23:22pm

re: #269 uriel

I’m not entirely sure that picture is helping, unless the goal is terrifying small children into persistent phobias that Jack Black is hiding under their bed.

(I kid! I kid!)

That’s what my beard looks like in the morning after wearing a CPAP mask all night.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:23:50pm

re: #260 Patricia Kayden

Sorry but I’m not an Assange fan. He has supported rightwing fascists in Europe and here in the U.S. I don’t get the lefty love for him.

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I don’t know the early Pink Floyd, but I’ve never been a fan of the popular band that Roger Waters was a part of. So it doesn’t hurt me that he’s a Susan Sarandon of the rock world.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:28:26pm

Sarandon poking her ratfucking nose into Kentucky politics

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:31:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:34:18pm

O_o

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:35:33pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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“We were putting cauliflower into the mashed potatoes.”

jeebus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:38:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:38:34pm

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:40:28pm

re: #205 Joe Bacon 🌹

Mr. Anal Cyst can go to hell. I have NO sympathy at all for him. I will celebrate when that pig gets his dirt nap!

Teaser. I did a joke last night in my set about Rush and will post latter in the week.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:53:54pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 24, 2020 • 6:54:38pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I know they can’t possibly be, because no one would be that careless, but those heads look downright shooped onto those bodies.

And for that matter, human-head-based vs feline to boot.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 24, 2020 • 7:46:28pm

re: #287 Chrysicat

I know they can’t possibly be, because no one would be that careless, but those heads look downright shooped onto those bodies.

And for that matter, human-head-based vs feline to boot.

I thought so too.


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