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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:29:46pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:29:52pm

FUCK TRUMP

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:31:07pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Something tells me that I trust the head of the CDC more than the guy who probably doesn’t know the difference between viruses and bacteria.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:31:14pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:31:44pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

Really inspiring confidence there jackass.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:32:09pm

I told Mrs. FBW this morning that what Trump needed to do would be to hold a press conference, because you need it to come from the top. Then, he needed to say, “Good afternoon. I have here with me (list of peopel who know shit). They’ll be updating you on the current status of the COVID19 outbreak in the US and abroad. Please direct your questions to them.”

And then sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, because he’d only make it worse. That’s what he SHOULD HAVE done.

BUT, I said, he won’t be able to do that because then somebody else would get all the attention.

Did I call it, or what?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:32:27pm

Do you need some comic relief?

Here’s my first attempt at Stand up Comedy. I’m happy with the effort, but……

I created a youtube channel. If you so desire please like and subscribe.

Peace

Gotham Comedy Club, NY, NY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:32:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:33:33pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:33:40pm

Trump’s gonna be shocked when he finds out that a vaccine isn’t something you buy over the counter at Walgreen’s.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:34:05pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something tells me Jackass has never heard of the Flu epidemic. And the only reason why he scared people about Ebola was because AFRICA.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:34:52pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

What I said downstairs, I’m thinking it but I don’t want to say it.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:35:26pm

re: #12 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Say it anyway, you’re among friends.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:37:15pm

re: #13 Ace Rothstein

Say it anyway, you’re among friends.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:37:25pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:37:37pm

And i hate myself for saying that since it goes against everything I believe in.

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plansbandc  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:38:23pm

re: #3 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There’s no probably. The guy knows nothing.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:38:25pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:38:57pm

re: #17 plansbandc

There’s no probably. The guy knows nothing.

VEry true.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:39:26pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:39:45pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:39:48pm

re: #18 The Pie Overlord!

No word of course from the so called Free Peach advocates. //

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calochortus  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:40:05pm

re: #16 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And i hate myself for saying that since it goes against everything I believe in.

And you probably don’t actually believe it. You’re just venting.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:41:11pm

re: #23 calochortus

And you probably don’t actually believe it. You’re just venting.

Yeah I’m just incredibly frustrated. I’m a small letter d- democrat before all else.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:41:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:42:43pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:43:06pm

As a compulsive nose-picker, I’m screwed.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:43:09pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:43:14pm

Now watch the alt-right shitlords beginning with Donald Junior being all like HA HA NOW ALL TEH LIBTARDS IS STOP WARSHING THERE HANDS!!! PWN3D YA LIBTURD!!!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:43:45pm

re: #25 The Pie Overlord!

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Everytime you use the restroom, wash your hands while singing “Happy Birthday To You” twice.

Then go grab the doorhandle that the last X people who didn’t wash THEIR hands touched, to get out of the restroom.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:44:54pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

Everytime you use the restroom, wash your hands while singing “Happy Birthday To You” twice.

Then go grab the doorhandle that the last X people who didn’t wash THEIR hands touched, to get out of the restroom.

The toilet handle and the stall latch are the most contaminated spots in a public bathroom. The toilet seat, not as much.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:45:12pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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I thought it was Trump’s policy to get rid of GUARD rails, not HAND rails.
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calochortus  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:45:15pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

Everytime you use the restroom, wash your hands while singing “Happy Birthday To You” twice.

Then go grab the doorhandle that the last X people who didn’t wash THEIR hands touched, to get out of the restroom.

All of a sudden, those people who open the door with a paper towel which they drop randomly if there’s no trash can by the door don’t seem so OCD do they?

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Teukka  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:45:21pm

FWIW, Björn Olsen, an infectious diseases prof at Uppsala U is on the record[Swedish] saying that we may be headed for a pandemic.
And authorities here in Sweden have raised the incident preparedness level wrt. SARS-CoV-2/CoViD-19.
And to top it all, a hospital here have quietly pulled a proposal to cut back a hundred or two staff…

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:45:32pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

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“Wash your Hands” is the new “Go Shopping”

The republicans have the easy answers for everything, see how easy this stuff is?!?!?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:46:01pm

re: #31 The Pie Overlord!

The toilet handle and the stall latch are the most contaminated spots in a public bathroom. The toilet seat, not as much.

Lucky for me my workplace has autoflush toilets!

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Chrysicat  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:46:07pm

re: #33 calochortus

All of a sudden, those people who open the door with a paper towel which they drop randomly if there’s no trash can by the door don’t seem so OCD do they?

Hey! I was already one of those people, though I never drop it on the floor ever!

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:46:40pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:46:59pm

re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White

Lucky for me my workplace has autoflush toilets!

Wherever they don’t have auto-flush, I have flushed with my foot rather than a hand for possibly two decades.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:47:03pm

re: #33 calochortus

All of a sudden, those people who open the door with a paper towel which they drop randomly if there’s no trash can by the door don’t seem so OCD do they?

Nope. Just annoying as all hell.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:47:37pm

re: #39 Chrysicat

Wherever they don’t have auto-flush, I have flushed with my foot rather than a hand for possibly two decades.

Also avoids getting sprayed in the face as you bend over the bowl.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:47:42pm

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

Do you need some comic relief?

Here’s my first attempt at Stand up Comedy. I’m happy with the effort, but……

I created a youtube channel. If you so desire please like and subscribe.

Peace

[Embedded content]

Way to go! Saved to watch later before I turn in. Congratulations!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:48:20pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:48:29pm

re: #38 DodgerFan1988

Trump throughout history

A house divided on itself cannot stand or maybe it can, who knows, my hat is great isn’t it?

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself, or maybe not, we should fear Nancy Pelosi.

Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for me.

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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:48:51pm

re: #33 calochortus

All of a sudden, those people who open the door with a paper towel which they drop randomly if there’s no trash can by the door don’t seem so OCD do they?

All restroom doors should swing out from the restroom, not in. I don’t know why that isn’t a thing.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:49:02pm

re: #42 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Way to go! Saved to watch later before I turn in. Congratulations!

I interested in feedback about my rush joke (the asshole on AM radio not the band).

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:49:40pm

I’ll watch the community spread maps to judge the optimal time to make a run to MA to get edibles for when I convalesce.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:49:45pm

re: #45 Belafon

All restroom doors should swing out from the restroom, not in. I don’t know why that isn’t a thing.

Because people walking down the hall don’t like getting smacked in the face with a restroom door?

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calochortus  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:49:59pm

re: #45 Belafon

All restroom doors should swing out from the restroom, not in. I don’t know why that isn’t a thing.

Lack of planning?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:50:06pm
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William Lewis  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:50:06pm

re: #14 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:50:12pm

Beginning to think our alien overlords are doing destructive stress testing on our simulation to just how much abuse it takes before we all go to blue screen heaven.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:51:27pm

re: #38 DodgerFan1988

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If you want an answer to that question, you need to ask an expert. Anthony Fauci or Anne Schuchat were both present and would be the right people to address — or does Trump object to having experts provide a response? After all, as a “Very Stable Genius”, he knows more than the specialists in a field. ///

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:51:30pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

I thought it was Trump’s policy to get rid of GUARD rails, not HAND rails.
//

He has trouble with stairs, so handrails are top-of-mind as things that affect him personally.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:51:34pm
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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:53:01pm

re: #48 Blind Frog Belly White

Because people walking down the hall don’t like getting smacked in the face with a restroom door?

The restrooms at my job are built so the the entrance is inset, you step into a space off the hall and then open the door. You still have to pull them.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:54:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:54:51pm
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William Lewis  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:55:05pm

re: #21 Chrysicat

Can you get a prescription that is larger than the limited OTC amounts?

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calochortus  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:55:36pm

re: #56 Belafon

The restrooms at my job are built so the the entrance is inset, you step into a space off the hall and then open the door. You still have to pull them.

I rather like the ones that don’t have a door, just a couple bends in the approach that cut off sight lines.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:56:40pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:58:17pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2020 • 4:59:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:00:02pm
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:01:27pm

re: #46 I Would Prefer Not To

I interested in feedback about my rush joke (the asshole on AM radio not the band).

I will give you feedback but it may not be until in the morning lol, sorry!!!

Proud of ya.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:02:21pm
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Chrysicat  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:02:37pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:03:06pm

re: #51 William Lewis

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:03:47pm

re: #66 NO SMOCKING GUN!

He was basically Rush Limbaugh without the childish name calling but with the same retrograde takes.

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BeachDem  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:04:07pm

re: #25 The Pie Overlord!

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handrails of any kind are very very bad. Keep away from them.

20 seconds of searching

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:04:27pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:06:20pm

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

Do you need some comic relief?

Here’s my first attempt at Stand up Comedy. I’m happy with the effort, but……

I created a youtube channel. If you so desire please like and subscribe.

Peace

[Embedded content]

Not bad for a first timer. I’d be nervous. You’re quite good.

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calochortus  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:06:23pm

As often happens, dinner is not making itself.
Laterz, all.

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Chrysicat  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:07:28pm

re: #72 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Not bad for a first timer. I’d be nervous.

Sometimes visible nerves on stage can be sold as a persona. Jay London made a living that way for 15 years.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:09:36pm

re: #74 Chrysicat

Sometimes visible nerves on stage can be sold as a persona. Jay London made a living that way for 15 years.

I usually need something pre-written by myself. I can’t really do a persona.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:11:00pm

Is Pence going to start a daily “Pray The Plague Away” series of tweets?

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:12:05pm

Take a break sometimes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:13:34pm

re: #75 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I usually need something pre-written by myself. I can’t really do a persona.

Every time I have to do a presentation, I’m nervous as hell. I feel like my mind is running at 2-3 x normal rate, like my voice flutters, like I’m stammering and repeating myself, and like everyone can hear the anxiety in my voice and see it in my manner.

But, according to multiple folks who have seen me give presentations, I come across as “relaxed and knowledgeable”.

I have no idea how I manage to do that.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:15:20pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:15:49pm

re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White

Every time I have to do a presentation, I’m nervous as hell. I feel like my mind is running at 2-3 x normal rate, like my voice flutters, like I’m stammering and repeating myself, and like everyone can hear the anxiety in my voice and see it in my manner.

But, according to multiple folks who have seen me give presentations, I come across as “relaxed and knowledgeable”.

I have no idea how I manage to do that.

Pretty much the only public speaking I’ve done has been at the funerals of my three grandparents. All three were from stuff I wrote but I dread public speaking. If people want to know why I probably have a little more empathy towards Biden, it’s because I too am a stutterer. It comes out when I get nervous and my thoughts come to my mouth before I fully process em.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:16:22pm

re: #79 jaunte

Definitely a legitimate worry. We saw what happened after Solemaini.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:16:51pm

re: #72 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Not bad for a first timer. I’d be nervous. You’re quite good.

Thanks. I was more excited than nervous. I’m still hyped up about it and it was Sunday night. I can see why so many comedians have issues (before and after they started comedy).

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:17:24pm

Probably better that Grenell be unencumbered by any kind of institutional knowledge that would get in the way of his criming.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:18:56pm

re: #79 jaunte

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The CDC shouldn’t count Never-Trumpers who get the Coronavirus, they’re probably intentionally getting it to make Trump look bad!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:21:11pm

PragerU loses preposterous appeal that it has a 1st Amendment right to profit on Youtube. slate.com

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:21:12pm

re: #84 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

You joke, but I think it’s an accurate prediction.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:21:30pm

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:21:42pm

Let me guess, she is selling these masks in all different fun colors at her GOOP site.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:22:37pm

re: #82 I Would Prefer Not To

Thanks. I was more excited than nervous. I’m still hyped up about it and it was Sunday night. I can see why so many comedians have issues (before and after they started comedy).

You definitely got some laughs out of me. You’re self-depreciating. People love that. My good friend did amateur stand up in Arlington, Va a few times. That was fun. Hope you do it again. We need humor right now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:23:34pm

This is how I deal with him, too.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:24:50pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

This is how I deal with him, too.

If there’s an advantage social media has, it’s that we get to see in real time how the rest of the world sees this.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:26:23pm

I wonder if Fox News will choose to protect Trump or try to protect their aging audience.

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:26:41pm

Just kidding.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:26:57pm

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:27:35pm

re: #94 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

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The cat knows equations. Let her speak.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:28:57pm
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:29:30pm

re: #92 jaunte

I wonder if Fox News will choose to protect Trump or try to protect their aging audience.

Trump. If you get the virus it is because you didn’t follow Trumps orders not to get it.

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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:30:01pm
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jaunte  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:30:11pm

re: #97 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

A new test for the prosperity gospel faithful.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:31:35pm

re: #89 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You definitely got some laughs out of me. You’re self-depreciating. People love that. My good friend did amateur stand up in Arlington, Va a few times. That was fun. Hope you do it again. We need humor right now.

Thanks.

I’m trying to line up my dates, working on new material, doing open mics…….

found this on FB

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:32:27pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:35:30pm

re: #100 I Would Prefer Not To

Thanks.

I’m trying to line up my dates, working on new material, doing open mics…….

found this on FB

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What was the original name in the meme before Trump?

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:36:36pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:38:36pm

re: #102 The Pie Overlord!

What was the original name in the meme before Trump?

No idea. And why would 2020 be in the same typeface?

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:38:47pm

Watching the CNN town halls with the top eight Presidential candidates - tonight’s menu is Bloomberg, Biden, Klobuchar, and Warren.

Currently, Biden is up, and I’ll have to say he’s absolutely killing it on this interview. Looking forward to seeing how Warren fares as well.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:42:10pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:42:32pm

Coolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcoolcool

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:44:01pm

re: #100 I Would Prefer Not To

Thanks.

I’m trying to line up my dates, working on new material, doing open mics…….

found this on FB

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Here is the original meme (found on Google image)

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lawhawk  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:44:15pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

I always use the disposable hand towel I used to wipe dry my hands to hold the handle to exit the restroom. Precisely because I know so many people do not wash their hands, or wash their hands long enough to properly clean their hands.

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plansbandc  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:44:17pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

So I guess all those Rs who don’t believe in evolution will be fine then.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:44:19pm

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

Deserves to be remembered as a truly great American. Some things just shouldn’t have a price tag on em. Dr. Salk got that. Oh and he was a first generation American like so many of his generation. The same people that Trump craps on.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:45:45pm

In other news:

taskandpurpose.com

If this is accurate and followed through on all I can say is “about time”.

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lawhawk  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:46:01pm

re: #107 goddamnedfrank

Totally cool.

We’re still trying to understand the transmission path and when/how long a person can transmit the disease as a carrier and not show symptoms.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:46:07pm

re: #105 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Watching the CNN town halls with the top eight Presidential candidates - tonight’s menu is Bloomberg, Biden, Klobuchar, and Warren.

Currently, Biden is up, and I’ll have to say he’s absolutely killing it on this interview. Looking forward to seeing how Warren fares as well.

I hope he keeps it up. He wasn’t even in my top three going in but I genuinely think he’s the best choice not just to beat Trump but to be POTUS.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:46:13pm
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jaunte  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:50:57pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Human beings have been giving viruses and bacteria a crash course in how to fuck us up for at least a hundred years, and their short life cycle means very fast evolution.

One disturbing bit of news that I heard on NPR ‘Science Friday’ last week: growers in Florida have been spraying their groves wholesale with antibiotics to fight citrus greening disease.

“In humans, the drugs, oxytetracycline and streptomycin, are used to treat pneumonia, syphilis and a broad array of infections. In 2016, the compounds were approved for emergency use on citrus trees in Florida, and in December, the agency expanded the use of oxytetracycline for orange groves across the country.”
nytimes.com

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:52:07pm
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Teukka  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:55:36pm

re: #116 jaunte

One disturbing bit of news that I heard on NPR ‘Science Friday’ last week: growers in Florida have been spraying their groves wholesale with antibiotics to fight citrus greening disease.

What the fuck? That’s like asking for trouble…

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:57:17pm

re: #118 Teukka

And there’s this aspect too; it doesn’t work:

Critics are particularly galled because there is also little convincing evidence that spraying will keep the scourge at bay. The disease is transmitted by an invasive psyllid insect and moves through the vascular tissue under the tree’s bark, a circulatory system that is difficult to access. Emergency applications on citrus crops since 2016 have shown that the antibiotics can slow disease progression, allowing growers to eke a few more harvests out of infected trees. But the drugs do not eliminate greening.
nature.com[no phone numbers allowed]8-4

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jaunte  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:59:07pm

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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 5:59:29pm

I don’t know if any of you are fans of Gravity Falls, but if you are:

Summer Vacation

ifunny.co

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:00:13pm

re: #116 jaunte

One disturbing bit of news that I heard on NPR ‘Science Friday’ last week: growers in Florida have been spraying their groves wholesale with antibiotics to fight citrus greening disease.

We’ve had a lot of problems with overuse of antibiotics. Not just with plants, but with farm animals — instead of providing these animals decent living conditions, they are given antibiotics to ward off the diseases they develop because of the unhealthy living conditions they are provided to maximize profits. And then, of course, doctors prescribing antibiotics to fight viral infections, a task to which they are totally unsuited,

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uriel  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:02:58pm
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:09:37pm

I think it is pretty clear. If the Coronavirus gets bad in the USA then Trump will pick another VP to run with him

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:12:44pm

re: #124 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

I think it is pretty clear. If the Coronavirus gets bad in the USA then Trump will pick another VP to run with him

It’s Junior, isn’t it?

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uriel  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:14:15pm

re: #45 Belafon

All restroom doors should swing out from the restroom, not in. I don’t know why that isn’t a thing.

You know, now that I think about it…

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:14:16pm

re: #125 The Pie Overlord!

It’s Junior, isn’t it?

Or Ivanka, Jared or a Russian to be named later.

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uriel  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:14:48pm

re: #125 The Pie Overlord!

It’s Junior, isn’t it?

Narrator: It was.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:28:05pm

My sister told me this afternoon that when we vote in the Illinois primary, if Bernie has the most delegates after Super Tuesday, she’s voting for the candidate in second place; if Bernie is number 2 in delegates, she’s voting for whoever is number 1. Like many though, she believes that if Bernie doesn’t win the nomination, he’s going to take his supporters and stay home. I’m waiting to see what happens.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:30:40pm

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

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Let the free market decide to allow a pandemic to run wild among poor people!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:31:15pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:31:30pm

The control of this virus is airtight.

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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:34:13pm

re: #129 Hecuba’s daughter

My sister told me this afternoon that when we vote in the Illinois primary, if Bernie has the most delegates after Super Tuesday, she’s voting for the candidate in second place; if Bernie is number 2 in delegates, she’s voting for whoever is number 1. Like many though, she believes that if Bernie doesn’t win the nomination, he’s going to take his supporters and stay home. I’m waiting to see what happens.

Most Bernie supporters will still support the Democrat in the election. Those that stay home will be annoying, but I think a lot of the “supporters” we will see online refusing to vote will be bots.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:35:06pm

re: #130 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Let the free market decide to allow a pandemic to run wild among poor people!

Motherf*ckin Alt-Right & Trump Cult Followers already sh*tposting all over social media, wishing the Coronavirus will hit the liberal big cities, undocumented immigrants, and homeless populations.

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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:35:17pm
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lawhawk  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:37:17pm

re: #135 Belafon

Paging Al Haig. Paging Al Haig.

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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:38:39pm
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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:42:50pm

Update on the missing teen, he’s not anymore:

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:55:17pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Why are we supposed to care about what Trump thinks? Where is the Surgeon General or healthcare professional to take charge of our response to this potential medical emergency? He’s such a joke.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 26, 2020 • 6:57:07pm
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:00:01pm

lol, worth clicking on, funny as heck

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:04:27pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:07:54pm

COVID-19 has the possibility of strongly affecting the coming election.

The elderly are particularly susceptible to succumbing to these virus sweeps.

If there are significant numbers of deaths in this country, the Trump administration is going to find it difficult to escape damnation.

Additionally, I notice that Trump, Biden, Sanders are rather elderly. They are not physically stopped yet from being mobile, but they are at an age where their immune system just isn’t going to be what it was when they were young.

I still believe that the death rate in China is due to both poor health practices as well as underreporting of actual infections. How many Chinese, if they exhibit cold-like symptoms, are going to actually be accounted in statistics? My guess that many Chinese in rural areas are just skipped.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:12:13pm

re: #46 I Would Prefer Not To

I interested in feedback about my rush joke (the asshole on AM radio not the band).

Just got off the stage at an open mic myself… will watch when i get home!

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:15:27pm
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calochortus  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:28:25pm

re: #129 Hecuba’s daughter

My sister told me this afternoon that when we vote in the Illinois primary, if Bernie has the most delegates after Super Tuesday, she’s voting for the candidate in second place; if Bernie is number 2 in delegates, she’s voting for whoever is number 1. Like many though, she believes that if Bernie doesn’t win the nomination, he’s going to take his supporters and stay home. I’m waiting to see what happens.

That would be my basic strategy except that we vote on Super Tuesday. So I’m waiting to see what happens in SC and making my best guess. Warren or Biden would be acceptable, although like some of us here, I really wanted Kamala Harris. Come Nov. I’ll vote blue, and all that.

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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:28:26pm

re: #145 goddamnedfrank

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Pence’s job isn’t to direct anything other than the damage control. He’s there to serve as a filter on the agencies responsible for responding to the pandemic, allowing through the happy-shit “All is well!” press releases while muzzling any reports on the actual state of the virus’ spread.

Unfortunately for the WH, this isn’t 1918 and so they can’t put the kibosh on every news story from state and local officials about new/spreading cases. So we’re going to end up with two voices: One from the WH assuring us that the virus is contained and America secure…and the other collective voice saying this shit is getting out of control and we need to start taking emergency measures.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:38:01pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:51:40pm

This is ridiculous — for Illinois residents, CNN is overwhelmed with political ads — not for president — but for the Illinois Supreme Court. IANAL — these are not the campaigns that I should be voting on. How are we supposed to be making these decisions?

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gocart mozart  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:57:41pm
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uriel  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:58:13pm

re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White

Every time I have to do a presentation, I’m nervous as hell. I feel like my mind is running at 2-3 x normal rate, like my voice flutters, like I’m stammering and repeating myself, and like everyone can hear the anxiety in my voice and see it in my manner.

But, according to multiple folks who have seen me give presentations, I come across as “relaxed and knowledgeable”.

I have no idea how I manage to do that.

May not be the same for you, but I tend to find that, when I can’t avoid public speaking outright, my inherent nervousness tend to make me over-prepare. A LOT.

So, while the people listening to me think I’m bringing up good points and structuring my argument well, my interior monologue is going, “Wait! You had at least five more citations you should have made there! How are you going to present ALL the complexities of this topic if you don’t mention EVERY FUCKING DATA POINT!!! YOU IDIOT!!!”

Thing is, no one but me knows I omitted any information at all.

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Citizen K  Feb 26, 2020 • 7:58:13pm
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:02:57pm

re: #107 goddamnedfrank

The individual infected with Coronavirus is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County. The individual had no known exposure to the virus through travel or close contact with a known infected individual.

Then it’s epidemic. And with President Bigbrain Cheeseman in charge and Vice President Mike “Jesus take the wheel!” Pence as his coronavirus czar, we’re doomed.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:05:52pm

If you drive an expensive car you’re probably a jerk, scientists say

The science is looking pretty unanimous on this one: Drivers of expensive cars are the worst.

A new study has found that drivers of flashy vehicles are less likely to stop and allow pedestrians to cross the road — with the likelihood they’ll slow down decreasing by 3% for every extra $1,000 that their vehicle is worth.
Tesla and regulators need to do more to prevent Autopilot deaths, safety agency says
Tesla and regulators need to do more to prevent Autopilot deaths, safety agency says
Researchers from the University of Nevada, Las Vegas speculated that the expensive car owners “felt a sense of superiority over other road users” and were less able to empathize with lowly sidewalk-dwellers.
They came to this conclusion after asking volunteers to cross a sidewalk hundreds of times, filming and analyzing the responses by car drivers.

If I ever take to driving my Rolls-Royce on a regular basis, I will retrofit it with peasant-sighting staffs on the fenders and a large cow-catcher, er brush guard, on the grill to push careless Hondas out of the way. Some of those James Bond Aston-Martin features might also be useful, especially those nifty disk-blade hubcaps. One idea I invented myself was a retractable catapult in the trunk, er boot, that would rise up and hurl fresh cow-pies at pickups, SUVs and other bumpkin-transport that dares to follow too closely. I don’t have a working model yet but I don’t foresee any insurmountable challenges. I even considered adapting airport runway lights to the headlight high beam position to vaporize inconsiderate road-louts who will not dim their own lights. That probably isn’t legal in Texas though.

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gocart mozart  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:07:46pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:09:27pm

re: #154 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

If you drive an expensive car you’re probably a jerk, scientists say

The science is looking pretty unanimous on this one: Drivers of expensive cars are the worst.

If I ever take to driving my Rolls-Royce on a regular basis, I will retrofit it with peasant-sighting staffs on the fenders and a large cow-catcher, er brush guard, on the grill to push careless Hondas out of the way. Some of those James Bond Aston-Martin features might also be useful, especially those nifty disk-blade hubcaps. One idea I invented myself was a retractable catapult in the trunk, er boot, that would rise up and hurl fresh cow-pies at pickups, SUVs and other bumpkin-transport that dares to follow too closely. I don’t have a working model yet but I don’t foresee any insurmountable challenges. I even considered adapting airport runway lights to the headlight high beam position to vaporize inconsiderate road-louts who will not dim their own lights. That probably isn’t legal in Texas though.

Maybe I could turn it into a business with the slogan, “We put the ‘RR’ in Road Rage.”

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:20:02pm

If the number of cases in China is actually much higher than reported, but the number of deaths is not, then the mortality rate is not as high as assumed by many.

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BeachDem  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:23:30pm
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plansbandc  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:26:40pm

Well this isn’t optimal.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:27:17pm

Biostatistics is not for wimps.

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gocart mozart  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:32:23pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:32:45pm

re: #160 Ace-o-aces

re: #159 plansbandc

The reality is that the infected will then infect others before the infected actually get caught either entering a hospital or taken to the hospital.

This is why the CDC and experts dismiss the idiocy of Trump.

It’s clear the virus is in the wild around the world.

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retired cynic  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:36:13pm

re: #111 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Deserves to be remembered as a truly great American. Some things just shouldn’t have a price tag on em. Dr. Salk got that. Oh and he was a first generation American like so many of his generation. The same people that Trump craps on.

Like DT himself. Takes talent to crap on yourself.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:37:50pm

re: #161 gocart mozart

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Yeah I just saw that. Good that she called Bernie’s double standard bs out.

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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:40:23pm
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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:41:09pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:42:40pm

re: #166 Belafon

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The market only responds positively to its own bullshit. Not that of others.

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plansbandc  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:47:41pm

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mmmirele  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:47:43pm

re: #160 Ace-o-aces

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Biostatistics is not for wimps.

If the case had been in Shasta County rather than Solano County, I would have picked out a certain church in Redding as the originating point. But, I’d be asking if the sick person goes to church and where. I am not saying the sick person is a member of the Korean Shincheonji. I am saying that if they go to a big church, the chances of being around someone else who had been sick or out of the country is higher.

On the Japan front, the Minister of Sports has hinted broadly to the Sumo Association that it ought to change the Osaka basho (which begins Sunday, March 8). The options are: holding the matches without spectators and showing them on NHK, postponing the matches or cancelling altogether. You will notice that “hold the matches with no changes” is NOT among the options presented. The Sumo Association meets on Sunday to discuss what it is going to do. I’d note that the Sumo Association is even more sclerotic (rigid, unresponsive) than the Japanese government, so I could see these old guys (they’re all guys) not taking the hint and throwing caution to the wind.

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gocart mozart  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:47:45pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:49:58pm

re: #166 Belafon

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If the markets don’t rebound before COB on Friday, I foresee Azar being another “fired by tweet” statistic for this administration.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:50:00pm

re: #170 gocart mozart

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There’s only one candidate who contributed to the 2020 rules. And it’s Bernie. I’m so fucking tired of our party being extorted by supporters of a man who has never cared about strengthening the Democratic Party except to benefit himself.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:50:46pm
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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:52:23pm
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gwangung  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:54:37pm

re: #174 Belafon

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And we would do it PEACEFULLY. With a smile.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 8:54:40pm

re: #169 mmmirele

Other combat sports and gatherings are canceling their shows. NJPW (the top pro-wrestling company) has canceled their big spring tournament shows, at least the first half of them.

In general the Japanese are super cautious about these things, but they know all too well that in densely populated Japan that an disease will spread very rapidly.

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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:00:53pm
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retired cynic  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:02:01pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

too long

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SteelPH  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:02:57pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

I expect the CDC to be discontinued entirely if they refuse.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:06:16pm

re: #175 gwangung

And we would do it PEACEFULLY. With a smile.

In a proper world, he gets escorted out, and directly to the waiting FBI agents armed with the arrest warrants that weren’t able to be executed until the instant that Trump became ex-President, with matching handcuffs waiting for the rest of the crime family as well.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:08:17pm

re: #180 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

In a proper world, he gets escorted out, and directly to the waiting FBI agents armed with the arrest warrants that weren’t able to be executed until the instant that Trump became ex-President, with matching handcuffs waiting for the rest of the crime family as well.

Montage of all the high Trumpers getting arrested. Hopefully we have someway of reuniting the kids with their parents.

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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:10:17pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

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So he says he’ll hire them when he needs them. And pay them with what, the money he’s cut so he can spend it on building the monument to his ego on our Southern border?

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retired cynic  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:11:16pm

re: #182 Targetpractice

Pay them? DT doesn’t pay people.

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Belafon  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:13:14pm

re: #182 Targetpractice

So he says he’ll hire them when he needs them. And pay them with what, the money he’s cut so he can spend it on building the monument to his ego on our Southern border?

He’ll pay them in heating oil.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:14:46pm
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:14:49pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

How long until we see the first big story about the president and other political officials pressuring the CDC behind the scenes to downplay warnings about the Coronavirus? My guess is three days

Sounds about right. 48 to 72 hours is typical for leaks from this administration.

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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:15:50pm

re: #183 retired cynic

Pay them? DT doesn’t pay people.

True, he probably thinks there’s scores of researchers, doctors, nurses, and assorted lab techs just sitting out front of the local hospital, waiting for him to show up with a pick-up to hire them as day laborers.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:17:09pm

re: #185 DodgerFan1988

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I had a dream I had no idea who Cernovich was. That was nice.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:17:15pm

re: #180 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

In a proper world, he gets escorted out, and directly to the waiting FBI agents armed with the arrest warrants that weren’t able to be executed until the instant that Trump became ex-President, with matching handcuffs waiting for the rest of the crime family as well.

What I’d love to see?

Trump uncomfortably grimacing on the podium as a new POTUS is sworn in next January - and the instant the new POTUS says, “So help me God”, FBI agents approach Trump and slap the cuffs on him.

On live TV in front of an audience of millions. It’d be glorious.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:18:47pm

Eek:

Japanese woman confirmed as coronavirus case for 2nd time, weeks after initial recovery

A woman working as a tour-bus guide in Japan tested positive for the coronavirus for a second time, Osaka’s prefectural government said on Wednesday, the first person in the country to do so amid growing concerns about the spread of the infection.

The second positive test comes as the number of confirmed cases in Japan rose to 186 by Thursday from around 170 the day before. Tokyo has urged big gatherings and sports events be scrapped or curtailed for two weeks to contain the virus while pledging the 2020 Olympic Games will still go ahead in the city.

The 186 cases reported by Japan’s health ministry are separate from 704 reported from an outbreak on a cruise liner that was quarantined off Tokyo earlier this month. A total of seven people have died, including four from the ship.

The woman, a resident of Osaka in western Japan, tested positive on Wednesday after developing a sore throat and chest pains, the prefectural government said in a statement, describing her as being in her forties. She first tested positive in late January and was discharged from the hospital after recovering on Feb. 1, according to the statement.

The health ministry confirmed the case was the first in Japan where a patient tested positive for coronavirus for a second time after being discharged from hospital, the Nikkei newspaper said.

Though a first in Japan, cases of second positive tests have been reported in China, where the disease originated late last year. The outbreak has spread rapidly and widely, infecting about 80,000 people globally and killing nearly 2,800, the vast majority in mainland China.

“Once you have the infection, it could remain dormant and with minimal symptoms, and then you can get an exacerbation if it finds its way into the lungs,” said Philip Tierno Jr., Professor of Microbiology and Pathology at NYU School of Medicine.

He said much remains unknown about the virus. “I’m not certain that this is not bi-phasic, like anthrax,” he said, meaning the disease appears to go away before recurring.

[…]

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:21:08pm

Japanese shares fall for fourth day as pandemic fears rise

Japan’s Nikkei share average fell for a fourth day on Thursday as investors were spooked by the rapid expansion of the global coronavirus outbreak, with the United States reporting its first possible community spread.

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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:23:30pm

Trump basically has himself backed into a corner…again. By staking his position as “The virus is contained & won’t spread,” he’s left himself no wiggle room when the number of cases starts exploding in coming weeks and months.

My personal prediction? As the number of cases starts to rise, the wingnuts ramp up the “DEMS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!” propaganda by actually accusing Trump’s enemies of deliberately going out and getting themselves infected in order to spread the virus beyond containment.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:23:32pm

Saudi Arabia suspends Umrah pilgrimage for fear of COVID-19

Saudi Arabia says it has temporarily suspended entry for individuals aiming to perform Umrah pilgrimage or to visit the Prophet’s Mosque in Medina over concerns of the spread of COVID-19, the novel coronavirus.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia tweeted early Thursday that the temporary suspension of Umrah is a precautionary measure to prevent the spread of the new disease.

Seems like a big deal.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:26:54pm

re: #185 DodgerFan1988

Look, if your life is basically a long improv routine attempting to perform competence and knowledge for an audience you’re going to screw out of cash, at some point you’re going to drop into mysticism…where no one can contradict you because it doesn’t make any damn sense; there’s not even a theology to contradict.

Can’t we all relate to that just a little?

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:34:37pm

Off to work. Back later.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:36:32pm

Warren did say in the CNN townhall that she was offering legislation to transfer the money from the Trump wall to the coronavirus crisis. Hey!! my suggestion!! We’re sympatico!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:37:08pm

Meanwhile, the UK is suffering from floods, once again:

Emergency evacuations from flood-hit Ironbridge

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:37:24pm

re: #196 Hecuba’s daughter

Warren did say in the CNN townhall that she was offering legislation to transfer the money from the Trump wall to the coronavirus crisis. Hey!! my suggestion!! We’re sympatico!

Sounds good to me.

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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:39:05pm

re: #196 Hecuba’s daughter

Warren did say in the CNN townhall that she was offering legislation to transfer the money from the Trump wall to the coronavirus crisis. Hey!! my suggestion!! We’re sympatico!

Bernie has offered a plan as well, though I don’t think a virus will be impressed by an old white guy pointing and shouting about billionaires.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:39:45pm
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SteelPH  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:40:01pm

re: #199 Targetpractice

Bernie has offered a plan as well, though I don’t think a virus will be impressed by an old white guy pointing and shouting about billionaires.

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What, you mean his economic agenda isn’t a one-size-fits-all fix for everything ever? Say it ain’t so!
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:43:43pm

re: #199 Targetpractice

Bernie has offered a plan as well, though I don’t think a virus will be impressed by an old white guy pointing and shouting about billionaires.

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Not true. He’ll put a wealth tax on all the billionaire viruses and give the non billionaire viruses M4A.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:51:49pm

Sure enough, idiot sites like Lew Rockwell are running full on conspiracy articles, encouraging people not to be afraid of the disease, to resist vaccination, etc.

We are suffering a glut of malicious know-nothingism here in the US.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:55:33pm

re: #201 SteelPH

What, you mean his economic agenda isn’t a one-size-fits-all fix for everything ever? Say it ain’t so!
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Should that be “is”, rather than “isn’t”?

Our President’s attitude toward expertise is chilling, especially medical expertise. He is absolute evil but unfortunately he is not the only one who measures everything in money and lives of others are irrelevant to him. If we escape disaster here because the pandemic doesn’t materialize, it won’t be due to any action he’s taken. It will be pure luck. And he will use that escape to justify his attack on the government medical institutions. I remember reading years ago that he was a fan of Ayn Rand — and this would certainly fit in with her toxic philosophy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 9:58:21pm

Here’s The Difference Between ‘Panic Buying’ And Reasonably Preparing For a Crisis

I walked to the grocery store late in the afternoon, as is my habit, and I was shocked at how long the lines were.

I looked at how many checkout lines were open - five as usual.

Normally near the end of the month the lines are short or even non-existent, as people run out of money at the end of the month.

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Are people panicking already?

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sagehen  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:09:03pm

re: #203 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sure enough, idiot sites like Lew Rockwell are running full on conspiracy articles, encouraging people not to be afraid of the disease, to resist vaccination, etc.

We are suffering a glut of malicious know-nothingism here in the US.

Rising CO2 levels, the whole world is suffering hypoxia. That’s why everything and everybody everywhere is stupid.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:10:38pm
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uriel  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:11:24pm

re: #148 The Pie Overlord!

That’s justre: #154 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

If you drive an expensive car you’re probably a jerk, scientists say

The science is looking pretty unanimous on this one: Drivers of expensive cars are the worst.

If I ever take to driving my Rolls-Royce on a regular basis, I will retrofit it with peasant-sighting staffs on the fenders and a large cow-catcher, er brush guard, on the grill to push careless Hondas out of the way. Some of those James Bond Aston-Martin features might also be useful, especially those nifty disk-blade hubcaps. One idea I invented myself was a retractable catapult in the trunk, er boot, that would rise up and hurl fresh cow-pies at pickups, SUVs and other bumpkin-transport that dares to follow too closely. I don’t have a working model yet but I don’t foresee any insurmountable challenges. I even considered adapting airport runway lights to the headlight high beam position to vaporize inconsiderate road-louts who will not dim their own lights. That probably isn’t legal in Texas though.

Nice!

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Dread Pirate  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:11:55pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:12:09pm

Denmark confirms first coronavirus case

Denmark has confirmed its first coronavirus infection in a man who returned from a ski holiday in northern Italy, the Danish health authority said on Thursday.

Exponential growth rate:

Coronavirus cases surge to 400 in Italy

The number of coronavirus cases in Italy has jumped to 400, amid international efforts to contain the spread of the deadly outbreak, the BBC reports.

The rise in Italy, the main focus of infection in Europe, represents a 25% surge in 24 hours.

Several European countries announced new cases traced to Italy.

[…]

Peoples are starting to get edgy with their neighbors:

Armenian Health Minister contacts Georgian counterpart after Tbilisi confirms first coronavirus case

Armenian Health Minister Arsen Torosyan has talked on phone to his Georgian counterpart Yekaterine Tikaradze after the first coronavirus case was reported in Georgia.

[…]

Late on Wednesday Georgia confirmed the first case of new coronavirus. the Health Minister said the infected man, 50, had arrived from Iran via Azerbaijan.

Kenya’s government’s decision to allow flights in from China is riling Kenyans:

Kenya: Uproar as Chinese Plane Lands in Nairobi

Kipsfai said on Twitter, “Who will monitor each of them incase they turn positive? Does GOK/MOH know anything about incubation period?”

Nathan Douglas Ngumi said, “Cleared so fast? If some of them are infected but the disease is still in its incubation phase and does not show visible symptoms how sure are Kenyan authorities that none of them have it?

“Also, how do you advise visitors to self-quarantine? In other countries it is not a choice!”

“Why can other people from China come to Kenya YET healthy desperate Kenyans in Wuhan are barred from returning? All the passengers have to do is board a plane and “self-quarantine”… rubbish,” remarked one Tim on Twitter.

John Dewis , another Twitter user said: “Tutapata hii and all countries will ban flights to Kenya. Sometimes I wonder. Passengers from are free to come to Kenya but our own students can’t.”

[…]

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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:13:33pm

re: #203 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sure enough, idiot sites like Lew Rockwell are running full on conspiracy articles, encouraging people not to be afraid of the disease, to resist vaccination, etc.

We are suffering a glut of malicious know-nothingism here in the US.

Dumbest bit of “advice” in my opinion? “It’s no worse than the flu!” Meanwhile, tens of thousands die annually in the US alone from influenza.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:15:48pm

We’re in a period of transition. My grandparents generation is dying off. While that generation was far from perfect, a lot of what bugs me comes from the idea generations can’t learn from each other or that history and its impacts on the present should be ignored. I listened to Rep Clyburn talk about his wife today. This man and his wife were part of the Civil Rights struggle. I am reminded that Emmett Till was the same age as one of my aunts and his senseless murder happened in my father’s life. I am then reminded that public officials in some states still try to get out of performing interracial marriages. The Cold War also has become a more distant memory too. I don’t think it’s hard to say both we and the Soviets did terrible things in the name of our ideologies.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:16:22pm

Malicious incompetence is not limited to Trump’s administration:

Nigeria: Coronavirus, Ebola, Lassa Fevers Caused By Corruption, Magu Insists

The acting chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, Ibrahim Magu, has insisted that the raging Corona virus is caused by corruption.

He alleged that some lab scientists many have also created the Lassa fever and Ebola viruses with an intention to destroy other people’s lives. “It is created by a corrupt mind,” he said.

The acting EFCC boss said this on Tuesday at the Commission’s headquarters in Abuja.

“Yes, I insist (on) what I said before. Honestly speaking, this virus must have been created by somebody with a corrupt mind,” Mr Magu said.

“Even the Ebola virus was caused by somebody who is wicked enough to create problems for another country.

[…]

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:17:55pm

Legalized Ethnic Cleansing has begun.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:18:20pm

re: #211 Targetpractice

Dumbest bit of “advice” in my opinion? “It’s no worse than the flu!” Meanwhile, tens of thousands die annually in the US alone from influenza.

We have so many people who are convinced they’re right because of their confirmation biases.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:23:29pm

I’m no less guilty. I’ve been wrong on clickbait, misinterpretation, or misunderstanding something but I also don’t just go with whatever headline is most convenient and clickbait. Journalism needs to be about telling stories about real people rather than luring people in.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:24:25pm

re: #214 DodgerFan1988

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Legalized Ethnic Cleansing has begun.

We discussed that earlier. This horrifies me as both a paralegal and a brother in law of a naturalized citizen. And of course an American

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:26:27pm

The Australians the past few years have had their share of wingnuts, but at least the current PM seems on top of things:

Coronavirus pandemic fears prompt Australian Government to activate emergency response

The prime minister has also announced Australia is activating an emergency plan to deal with the outbreak of the coronavirus, amid expectations a global pandemic will soon be declared.

Scott Morrison said the virus had spread rapidly outside of China, which had prompted his government to elevate Australia’s response.

We believe risk of global pandemic is very much upon us and as a result, as a government, we need to take the steps necessary to prepare for such a pandemic,” he said.

[…]

So not like Trump.

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gwangung  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:27:31pm

An ugly thought: a pandemic makes ANY mass action more difficult: getting out the vote, organizing, demonstrations, protest, resistance.

Ponder that.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:28:28pm

re: #219 gwangung

An ugly thought: a pandemic makes ANY mass action more difficult: getting out the vote, organizing, demonstrations, protest, resistance.

Ponder that.

We really are in dark times.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:29:54pm

Because what really matters in life is making the most money one can:

Amazon merchants curb ad spending and hike prices as coronavirus threatens orders

SOME Amazon merchants spooked by the coronavirus fallout are curtailing their ad spending, several report.

In particular, small sellers are buying fewer ads on the site to reduce demand in the event of supply disruptions. And they are starting to raise prices too.

“If we’re going to run out, why not run out at full price,” said Chuck Gregorich, who sells China-made patio furniture on amazon.com. “We have to make sure the sales we have are as profitable as they can be.”

He expects to lose as much as $2m (€1.8m) in sales this year due to factory closures and other coronavirus-related slowdowns.

The sudden shift in sales tactics by merchants like Mr Gregorich threatens Amazon’s fastest-growing and profitable revenue source. Amazon merchants spent about 6pc less on advertising over the past two weeks than they did a year ago, says Daniel Knijnik, who runs Quartile Digital, a New York firm that helps manage Amazon advertising for 2,300 brands selling goods on the site.

[…]

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:31:15pm

re: #219 gwangung

I’ve never done a mail ballot before because I always enjoy going to the voting booth.

But alas, for Super Tuesday I’m now wondering if I should have done a mail ballot for the first time.

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Teukka  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:36:47pm

re: #219 gwangung

An ugly thought: a pandemic makes ANY mass action more difficult: getting out the vote, organizing, demonstrations, protest, resistance.

Ponder that.

re: #220 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We really are in dark times.

Also, should a pandemic get sufficiently out of hand by intention or incompetence, what powers does the executive have to impose measures which make above mass actions impossible or very difficult?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:38:49pm

FYI—I walked past Los Angeles City College on Vermont and took a look at the Early Voting line this afternoon. A real long line outside the Student Union building (Early Voting Site). Now I’m curious about the Early Vote total so far…and on Saturday the 29th there will be a massive expansion of Early Vote precincts.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 26, 2020 • 10:39:49pm

re: #223 Teukka

Also, should a pandemic get sufficiently out of hand by intention or incompetence, what powers does the executive have to impose measures which make above mass actions impossible or very difficult?

That’s a good question but I got a bad bad feeling that the Joint Chiefs are getting fed up with President Asshole…

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Dread Pirate  Feb 26, 2020 • 11:06:25pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 26, 2020 • 11:07:32pm

re: #193 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Saudi Arabia suspends Umrah pilgrimage for fear of COVID-19

Seems like a big deal.

Hmm… Only a couple days ago I was wondering what they were going to do about the Hajj in a few months. If they find they need to suspend the Hajj this year, it will have a dramatic financial impact for global aviation. That’s somewhere near 2 million round-trip passenger fares during the short window.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 26, 2020 • 11:12:55pm

re: #154 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

If you drive an expensive car you’re probably a jerk, scientists say

The science is looking pretty unanimous on this one: Drivers of expensive cars are the worst.

If I ever take to driving my Rolls-Royce on a regular basis, I will retrofit it with peasant-sighting staffs on the fenders and a large cow-catcher, er brush guard, on the grill to push careless Hondas out of the way. Some of those James Bond Aston-Martin features might also be useful, especially those nifty disk-blade hubcaps. One idea I invented myself was a retractable catapult in the trunk, er boot, that would rise up and hurl fresh cow-pies at pickups, SUVs and other bumpkin-transport that dares to follow too closely. I don’t have a working model yet but I don’t foresee any insurmountable challenges. I even considered adapting airport runway lights to the headlight high beam position to vaporize inconsiderate road-louts who will not dim their own lights. That probably isn’t legal in Texas though.

We may soon have an opportunity to identify the truly worst of the worst

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 26, 2020 • 11:24:30pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 26, 2020 • 11:28:51pm

re: #226 Dread Pirate

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And if the publisher can’t make back money on this book, then Bolton has to return their advance, which (IIRC) means he’d be on the line for $3m.

I genuinely wonder if he got some sort of secret assurance from the NSC or OLC that they’d drop the hold on the manuscript after the impeachment hearings concluded. Because that truly would be the cherry on top, Bolton losing any possible profits off his silence because of the infamous Trump pettiness.

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ckkatz  Feb 26, 2020 • 11:29:51pm

Phew… Just caught up with the last few threads.

With apologies to Ms Hecuba’s Daughter, let me add a few thoughts to the question of preparation…

First, a horror ceiling is in order.

From what I understand, likely essential services will continue. These include electricity, natural gas, water, sewage. Other service _might_ have a few delays such as mail and gasoline stations.

Second, so what to prepare for…

There have been a few articles on the grocery store and merchandise supply chain facing some dislocation.

Certainly, this seems to happen in Northern Virginia whenever a dusting of snow is forecast. As far as I can tell, there is some sort of county requirement that everybody congregate in the nearest grocery store and recite the snow mantra “Bread, Milk, Toilet Paper”.

It seems to me that the goal is to have enough supplies to comfortably continue to live one’s life and last out any dislocations in the supply chain. The usual goal is to aim for about 2 to 4 weeks of one’s normal everyday supplies for a start. Assuming of course that one has the space and budget.

The optimum, from what I have read, is a 90 day supply of household needs. But that takes a lot of space, budget, and management.

Additional items might include critical prescriptions and medicines, a supply of hand sanitizer and perhaps some sort personal comfort item, like chocolate.

If you are out of ideas, instant oatmeal with dried fruits like raisins; rice and beans; soups; and sides like Knorr’s pastas and rice dishes to which you can add canned meat, such as chicken.

A couple of years ago a lizard posted a very nice recipe for Hoppin’ John that would work well.

As an aside, my father served in the European Theater in the American Army during World War 2. After the war he was posted to Germany as part of the US Army of Occupation. He and some other officers hired an Italian refugee as cook and housekeeper for their billet. One of her major qualifications was that she knew well over 50 ways to prepare spam.

Interestingly, my Grandfather was part of the US Army of Occupation of Germany after World War 1. His favorite story was about how his friend, an Ojibwa from Wisconsin got drunk and disappeared one day. Everybody went looking for him. They found him in a manure pile. Apparently he had aggravated the local villagers so severely while drunk, that they carried him over to it and dumped him in.

When I get a chance, I’ll post a few links that may offer some ideas. At the moment, my cat is demanding to know why I am not paying attention to her.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 26, 2020 • 11:30:50pm

re: #227 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Hmm… Only a couple days ago I was wondering what they were going to do about the Hajj in a few months. If they find they need to suspend the Hajj this year, it will have a dramatic financial impact for global aviation. That’s somewhere near 2 million round-trip passenger fares during the short window.

The latest statistics do not show a significant increase over the past day in either total number of new infections nor deaths. It’s certainly possible that this time, as with SARS and MERS, we’re avoiding a pandemic that will devastate the economy or lead to massive number of infections. Trump has deliberately undermined our ability to face a pandemic and he is inflicting permanent damage on the CDC, but it seems that once again his malfeasance can continue unchecked and it won’t be until the big one really hits that we will discover how unprepared we are in facing such a crisis, because all our defenses have been eliminated.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 26, 2020 • 11:38:12pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 26, 2020 • 11:52:38pm

If your response to this news is more negative than “Well, it’s about damn time” you may just be a racist piece of crap
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Dread Pirate  Feb 27, 2020 • 12:01:47am
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Dread Pirate  Feb 27, 2020 • 12:06:20am
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sagehen  Feb 27, 2020 • 12:20:35am

re: #235 Dread Pirate

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nah.

If Sanders or Warren is elected, they’ll put forth a bunch of leftist policy proposals that purple-district dems in the House (and Dem senators from the leans-right states) will laugh at, and vote against.

Because Democrats don’t have that lockstep party discipline that Republicans utilize to pass “whatever a president of our party wants”.

Does nobody remember how difficult it was to get Obamacare through? Or the Recovery Act? and that was after significant watering-down to get Max Baucus and Ben Nelson’s half-hearted support.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 27, 2020 • 12:22:02am

Add Denmark and Estonia to the list of countries with CoViD-19

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 1:06:04am

re: #44 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Trump throughout history

A house divided on itself cannot stand or maybe it can, who knows, my hat is great isn’t it?

The only thing we have to fear is fear itself, or maybe not, we should fear Nancy Pelosi.

Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for me.

I cannot not tell a lie

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 1:31:17am

re: #88 The Pie Overlord!

Let me guess, she is selling these masks in all different fun colors at her GOOP site.

I assume that burning one of her vagina-scented candles is “proven” to disperse the virus…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 1:37:47am

re: #115 Charles Johnson

The famous H.G. Wells quote refers to the immunity humans have to viruses and bacteria, gained by millennia of evolution. That immunity is disappearing because they evolve much faster than we do.

and because our overuse of antibiotics is strengthening them while weakening our own immune systems

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 1:41:03am

re: #137 Belafon

This is outrageous. We should use every tool at our disposal, including government manufacturing or contracting if necessary, to make this vaccine available to everyone who needs it. Former Pharma lobbyist Azar should stop putting profits ahead of people’s lives

again, this is putting bottom-line profits ahead of the much larger picture: the costs of a major outbreak.

the Free Market is a useful tool for balancing supply and demand for consumer goods, but not for vital medications.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 1:45:26am

re: #192 Targetpractice

Trump basically has himself backed into a corner…again. By staking his position as “The virus is contained & won’t spread,” he’s left himself no wiggle room when the number of cases starts exploding in coming weeks and months.

My personal prediction? As the number of cases starts to rise, the wingnuts ramp up the “DEMS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!” propaganda by actually accusing Trump’s enemies of deliberately going out and getting themselves infected in order to spread the virus beyond containment.

I have no worries that the Press will not step in and defend him…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 1:48:06am

I have caught up with the thread.

you may resume posting

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 27, 2020 • 1:52:31am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have caught up with the thread.

you may resume posting

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Teukka  Feb 27, 2020 • 2:07:14am

And that Swedish infections diseases prof? He says it’s time to call CoVID-19/SARS-CoV-2 a pandemic.
Sauce: aftonbladet.se

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 2:11:40am

re: #246 Teukka

And that Swedish infections diseases prof? He says it’s time to call CoVID-19/SARS-CoV-2 a pandemic.
Sauce: aftonbladet.se

yeahbut Sweeds are all Socilists

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Teukka  Feb 27, 2020 • 2:39:35am

Now listening to:

Gap

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2020 • 2:52:30am

re: #170 gocart mozart

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 27, 2020 • 3:17:52am

All schools in Japan will be closed effective March 2nd.

Via Google Translate:

Following the spread of the new coronavirus, Prime Minister Abe will be headquarters at the government’s headquarters at 6:00 pm shortly afternoon, starting from next month until spring breaks for all elementary and junior high schools and high schools nationwide. He stated that he would request a temporary closure. He instructed him to urgently prepare the necessary bills to control the spread of infection and minimize its impact on people’s lives and the economy.

The government opened a headquarters for countermeasures against the new coronavirus at the prime minister’s office at 6:00 pm on the 27th.

Prime Minister Abe noted that temporary closure of elementary and junior high schools has been taken in Hokkaido and Ichikawa City, Chiba Prefecture, and said, “Efforts have been made to prevent the spread of infection to children in each region. But the last week or two is a very important time. “

He said, “First and foremost, put children’s health and safety first and prepare for the risk of large-scale infections caused by many children and teachers gathering for long hours on a daily basis.” Expressed his intention to request that elementary schools, junior high schools, and high schools and special needs schools be temporarily closed until spring break.

www3.nhk.or.jp original in Japanese.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 3:22:00am

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

All schools in Japan will be closed effective March 2nd.

Consider how that will effect any economy in which there are large numbers of working mothers…

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 27, 2020 • 3:22:42am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Consider how that will effect any economy in which there are large numbers of working mothers…

It’d be disastrous.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 3:24:55am

re: #252 Dr Lizardo

It’d be disastrous.

But then again, mothers are supposed to stay at home

THIS IS JUST A MANIFESTATION OF GOD’S DIVINE WILL!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 27, 2020 • 3:30:06am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Heh.

Reading in local news that Ostrava Public Transport will disinfect all vehicles (trams, buses, trolleybuses, etc.) because of COVID-19 concerns; they began doing so overnight. Czech Railways will begin doing the same this weekend (travel is typically lighter on the weekends here).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 3:33:17am

re: #254 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

Reading in local news that Ostrava Public Transport will disinfect all vehicles (trams, buses, trolleybuses, etc.) because of COVID-19 concerns; they began doing so overnight. Czech Railways will begin doing the same this weekend (travel is typically lighter on the weekends here).

there was a case of an infected soldier being pulled off a train near Koblenz, Germany, that is going to scare people away from train travel.

I am already concerned for my summer tourguiding schedule: I have over 40 ship-based tours lined up, but who wants to risk being quarantined on a cruise ship overseas? I suspect that many of them will cancel soon.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 27, 2020 • 3:35:55am

re: #255 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there was a case of an infected soldier being pulled off a train near Koblenz, Germany, that is going to scare people away from train travel.

I am already concerned for my summer tourguiding schedule: I have over 40 ship-based tours lined up, but who wants to risk being quarantined on a cruise ship overseas? I suspect that many of them will cancel soon.

That would truly suck. I suspect your suspicion may be right, sad to say. My student this morning was supposed to go to Milan next week with his wife and kid….but needless to say, he’s cancelled the trip.

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SteelPH  Feb 27, 2020 • 3:37:28am

Looking like I may need to cancel my convention attendance this year..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 3:39:21am

re: #257 SteelPH

Looking like I may need to cancel my convention attendance again..

I just had a tour cancelled, it was in connection with a major trade fair in Frankfurt, which was also cancelled.

And that was not so much out of concerns about spreading virus but concerns about being able to deliver the products they were planning to launch at the trade fair.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2020 • 3:49:03am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:14:39am

re: #259 Chrysicat

The only compromise with fascists is whether they prefer hanging or facing the firing squad.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:19:14am

re: #260 Dr Lizardo

The only compromise with fascists is whether they prefer hanging or facing the firing squad.

Nope, shooting is too good for them, hang them like dogs!

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:25:25am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nope, shooting is too good for them, hang them like dogs!

Was it too good for Ceaucescu?

If not, then I’m open to that negotiation for fascists since it was granted to communist dictators.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:29:40am

re: #236 Dread Pirate

Why isn’t the House holding hearings about this? Democrats appear to be sleeping after the impeachment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:33:46am

re: #262 Chrysicat

Was it too good for Ceaucescu?

If not, then I’m open to that negotiation for fascists since it was granted to communist dictators.

a firing squad was considered to be an “honorable” way to execute soldiers

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:40:02am

Off to work again. Back later.

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Teukka  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:42:57am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nope, shooting is too good for them, hang them like dogs!

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a firing squad was considered to be an “honorable” way to execute soldiers

Hence why the Nuremberg tribunal sentenced people to hang, deny them the honor, them being common criminals, basically.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:43:22am

Let the panic begin.

Facial styles that are acceptable for facial respirators:

Clean shaven, soul patch, side whiskers, Zappa, walrus, painters brush, chevron, handlebar, pencil, toothbrush, lampshade, zorro.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:44:20am

re: #267 Shropshire Slasher

that was on Colbert: “Brooklyn is doomed”

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:45:17am

re: #38 DodgerFan1988

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Thoughts and prayers. Works every time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:55:19am

re: #197 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Meanwhile, the UK is suffering from floods, once again:

Emergency evacuations from flood-hit Ironbridge

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 4:57:58am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

If your business has been affected by the devastating flooding in Herefordshire, Shropshire or Telford & Wrekin, please remember there is help available

..I read an article that they are scrambling to beat the deadline for EU assistance funds

talk about tempting fate…

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steve_davis  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:11:36am

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

Everytime you use the restroom, wash your hands while singing “Happy Birthday To You” twice.

Then go grab the doorhandle that the last X people who didn’t wash THEIR hands touched, to get out of the restroom.

I never, ever do this. If I can’t find a way to open the door without using my bare hands, I’ll grab the handle with my teeth. Then, when I return to my desk, it’s a couple shots of Jack Daniels Green, which is technically a mouthwash, even if you swallow it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:13:54am

re: #272 steve_davis

I never, ever do this. If I can’t find a way to open the door without using my bare hands, I’ll grab the handle with my teeth. Then, when I return to my desk, it’s a couple shots of Jack Daniels Green, which is technically a mouthwash, even if you swallow it.

Best to just pee in bottles in your hotel room

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:14:36am

re: #177 Targetpractice

The thing about this particular chapter in Trump’s miserable track record of conning his marks is that for the first time they face an existential threat for real- not a manufactured brown-skinned people hating wall building variety, or one of gun grabbing commie hippies coming for their (often theoretical) well-deserved 2nd mansions.

Fear has been Trump’s con all along and this time fear is his achilles heel as his base support knows they are in the highest risk pool to get sick and die. This means more scrutiny placed upon Trump as well as blame as people and their families fall victim. Poor government policy and defunding services that help fight these sorts of pandemics will be his legacy and there is nothing Trump can do to separate himself from his actions because he himself built the tower of Fear. It will fall down upon him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:17:02am

re: #274 Florida Panhandler

Fear has been Trump’s con all along and this time fear is his achilles heel as his base support knows they are in the highest risk pool to get sick and die. This means more scrutiny placed upon Trump as well as blame as people and their families fall victim. Poor government policy and defunding services that help fight these sorts of pandemics will be his legacy and there is nothing Trump can do to separate himself from his actions because he himself built the tower of Fear. It will fall down upon him.

Fear of Death could well begin to overwhelm their racism and xenophobia. Ebola was seen as an “African Disease” but Corona virus seems to be a lot more color-blind.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:18:50am

re: #203 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sure enough, idiot sites like Lew Rockwell are running full on conspiracy articles, encouraging people not to be afraid of the disease, to resist vaccination, etc.

We are suffering a glut of malicious know-nothingism here in the US.

This may be the hill the conspiracy industry dies on.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:18:53am

Looks like another fun day on Wall Street. It appears that the news conference called to ease fears has had the opposite effect.

Everything Trump touches dies….

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:19:01am

re: #275 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fear of Death could well begin to overwhelm their racism and xenophobia. Ebola was seen as an “African Disease” but Corona virus seems to be a lot more color-blind.

Oh, let’s not fool ourselves on that one. The con artists are gonna ramp up the xenophobia in the same way as they did with Ebola, insisting that the coronavirus outbreak is being spread among “illegals” who are then bringing it across the border into the US.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:20:01am

re: #272 steve_davis

And make sure to sing Happy Burfday out loud and proud. Lead by example!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:21:49am
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:22:04am

re: #279 Shropshire Slasher

And make sure to sing Happy Burfday out loud and proud. Lead by example!!

SURELY THIS AN EQUAL LENGTH TRUMP LOYALTY SONG THAT WE COULD SING?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:25:44am

re: #278 Targetpractice

Oh, let’s not fool ourselves on that one. The con artists are gonna ramp up the xenophobia in the same way as they did with Ebola, insisting that the coronavirus outbreak is being spread among “illegals” who are then bringing it across the border into the US.

They will try that tack but it is clear that the spread of Corona virus is simply part and parcel of globalization.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:26:22am

re: #278 Targetpractice

Oh, let’s not fool ourselves on that one. The con artists are gonna ramp up the xenophobia in the same way as they did with Ebola, insisting that the coronavirus outbreak is being spread among “illegals” who are then bringing it across the border into the US.

They already have. Chinese and Chinese Americans are already being harassed.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:28:29am

re: #283 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They already have. Chinese and Chinese Americans are already being harassed.

Ayep. They’re already demanding a travel ban on all Chinese citizens.

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mmmirele  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:29:20am

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

All schools in Japan will be closed effective March 2nd.

Via Google Translate:

www3.nhk.or.jp original in Japanese.

from the article: 今回の要請に幼稚園や保育所、学童保育は含まれていないということです。
or:
“This request does not include kindergartens, daycare centers and school childcare.”

Little kids are disease-ridden! (I can say this as a former little kid.) This is only going to slow down but not stop the virus.

ETA: I actually understood some of the kanji in this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:30:03am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:30:08am

re: #284 Targetpractice

Ayep. They’re already demanding a travel ban on all Chinese citizens.

Meanwhile Trump gets political advice from a guy who doesn’t believe in washing hands.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:30:16am

Still no name of the shooter from Milwaukee yesterday.

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jeffreyw  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:32:59am

I”ve Got Mine!

Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:33:19am
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steve_davis  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:34:29am

re: #107 goddamnedfrank

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oh that’s great. that means that the virus may have an unknown vector, like being able to ride in on mail, for instance. thank god this thing is 2% fatal and not 60%, like MERS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:35:39am

There is a lot of disinformation out there - while the main concern, especially for the Dow Jones, is going to be the collapse of world trade as our just-in-time logistics system starts to break down and factory production begins to grind to a halt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:39:34am

re: #170 gocart mozart

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steve_davis  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:39:49am

re: #122 Hecuba’s daughter

We’ve had a lot of problems with overuse of antibiotics. Not just with plants, but with farm animals — instead of providing these animals decent living conditions, they are given antibiotics to ward off the diseases they develop because of the unhealthy living conditions they are provided to maximize profits. And then, of course, doctors prescribing antibiotics to fight viral infections, a task to which they are totally unsuited,

it isn’t the unhealthy living conditions. it’s that cows aren’t designed to eat grain, but we stuff them with grain because it’s cheaper than letting them graze. so their stomachs become breeding grounds for all kinds of crap that then has to be warded off with antibiotics. See? I still remember Omnivore’s Dilemma, which I last taught 20 years ago!

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steve_davis  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:44:38am

re: #143 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

COVID-19 has the possibility of strongly affecting the coming election.

The elderly are particularly susceptible to succumbing to these virus sweeps.

If there are significant numbers of deaths in this country, the Trump administration is going to find it difficult to escape damnation.

Additionally, I notice that Trump, Biden, Sanders are rather elderly. They are not physically stopped yet from being mobile, but they are at an age where their immune system just isn’t going to be what it was when they were young.

I still believe that the death rate in China is due to both poor health practices as well as underreporting of actual infections. How many Chinese, if they exhibit cold-like symptoms, are going to actually be accounted in statistics? My guess that many Chinese in rural areas are just skipped.

Biden will survive. Sanders and Trump, dead on arrival.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:45:11am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:45:45am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not only did she win more states, she won the more populated ones. This guy either had an agenda or he’s very uninformed, judging by the way he acted, I’d say it’s the former. And I hope Warren hits more on Bernie’s hypocrisy.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:50:28am

re: #291 steve_davis

oh that’s great. that means that the virus may have an unknown vector, like being able to ride in on mail, for instance. thank god this thing is 2% fatal and not 60%, like MERS.

Or maybe on imported goods from China or elsewhere? Chilling thought.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:53:10am

The Borowitz Report:
PUTIN DENIES MITCH MCCONNELL IS RUSSIAN ASSET: “HE HAS NEVER BEEN AN ASSET TO ANY COUNTRY”

Pushing back against charges that Senator Mitch McConnell is a Russian asset, the Russian President, Vladimir Putin, said on Tuesday that McConnell “has never been an asset to any country.”

“You can scour the four corners of the globe, and you will not find a nation that would ever in a million years consider Mitch McConnell an asset,” Putin said.

The Russian President urged pundits who have called McConnell a Russian asset “to look up the word ‘asset’ in the dictionary.”

“You will find that ‘asset’ means a useful or valuable thing,” Putin said. “The only part of that definition that fits McConnell is ‘thing.’ “

Pressing his case further, he said that it was debatable whether McConnell was even an asset to his home state of Kentucky. “Maybe compared to Rand Paul he is, but that’s setting the bar ludicrously low,” he said.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:53:43am

re: #298 makeitstop

Or maybe on imported goods from China or elsewhere? Chilling thought.

Don’t pop bubble wrap from China, might have Coronavirus air in it! //

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:56:49am

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

Do you need some comic relief?

Here’s my first attempt at Stand up Comedy. I’m happy with the effort, but……

I created a youtube channel. If you so desire please like and subscribe.

Peace

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Video

Very nice! Hope seeing more from you.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 5:58:31am

re: #291 steve_davis

oh that’s great. that means that the virus may have an unknown vector, like being able to ride in on mail, for instance. thank god this thing is 2% fatal and not 60%, like MERS.

Thing is that a disease with 60% mortality rate may infect small numbers but burn out because it’s easy to identify and contain.

A disease that is virtually indistinguishable from a common cold or flu until requiring hospitalization is far more difficult to contain. The mortality rate may be far higher than influenza, which kills hundreds of thousands worldwide every year. If this new disease infects a similar number of people as the flu in a given year, it could result in hundreds of thousands of deaths in the US alone.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:01:54am

I’m no virologist or public health expert but this is why we need experts in government. Why we need to fully fund CDC and NIH. Why we need leaders who don’t believe kooky shit about vaccinations.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:02:15am

One of my favorite teachers.

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SteelPH  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:03:23am

re: #303 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m no virologist or public health expert but this is why we need experts in government. Why we need to fully fund CDC and NIH. Why we need leaders who don’t believe kooky shit about vaccinations.

At this point, Republicans are a direct threat to global public health.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:07:51am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Guess Trump’s presser didn’t calm markets or nerves. Picking Pence didn’t give anyone confidence that Trumpworld knows what it’s doing.

Market futures all pointing lower - and put the market on pace to be in correction territory after the selloff earlier this week.

A correction is 10% decline from highs.

The market futures suggest that the markets will open with more than 10% decline so far this week. And economic data isn’t going to help, as the govt released that the 4Q2019 economic growth was 2.1%, again showing that the economy isn’t juiced from Trump/GOP tax cuts, and that Trump’s trade war continues having an effect.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:08:24am

re: #305 SteelPH

At this point, Republicans are a direct threat to global public health.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:15:08am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:16:20am

A killer asteroid won’t wipe out the human race. Stupidity will.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:16:48am

re: #236 Dread Pirate

They seem like a group worth donating to.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:20:02am

re: #303 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Trump’s comment that he can fire CDC and NIH and then bring back experts should a crisis arise is bass-ackward.

By the time you manage to do that, it’s already too late and the people and resources are fighting against time to just catch up.

The GOP public health posture is the same as their posture on health care:

#GOPDontCare.

It’s their goddamned brand.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:20:19am

re: #236 Dread Pirate

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:21:56am
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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:23:52am
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lizardofid  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:28:40am

re: #299 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Borowitz Report:
PUTIN DENIES MITCH MCCONNELL IS RUSSIAN ASSET: “HE HAS NEVER BEEN AN ASSET TO ANY COUNTRY”

Quite a backhand ole Vlad has there.

Morning!

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:31:20am

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

Do you need some comic relief?

Here’s my first attempt at Stand up Comedy. I’m happy with the effort, but……

I created a youtube channel. If you so desire please like and subscribe.

Peace

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Very well done.
Kudos. (Not kodos)

I thought you were taller

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:32:27am

re: #311 lawhawk

Trump’s comment that he can fire CDC and NIH and then bring back experts should a crisis arise is bass-ackward.

By the time you manage to do that, it’s already too late and the people and resources are fighting against time to just catch up.

The GOP public health posture is the same as their posture on health care:

#GOPDontCare.

It’s their goddamned brand.

Rehiring the fire department every time there is a fire & firing them when it is out is not a good long term strategy. The only other type of employment policy similar to that which works is firing NFL kickers.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:33:30am

re: #313 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

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Maybe this is just a bad mid 2000’s disaster movie where Trump somehow becomes President. It would actually make sense.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:33:50am

re: #311 lawhawk

Trump’s comment that he can fire CDC and NIH and then bring back experts should a crisis arise is bass-ackward.

By the time you manage to do that, it’s already too late and the people and resources are fighting against time to just catch up.

The GOP public health posture is the same as their posture on health care:

#GOPDontCare.

It’s their goddamned brand.

It’s so stupid.

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Shropshire Slasher  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:34:04am

In six months there will be a report stating that there was an increase in deaths on stairs because people were failing to use the handrails.

/

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:34:23am

#primarywarren is trending on twitter due to the Berner cult and Russian trolls.

Because of course.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:36:26am

re: #321 Scottish Dragon

#primarywarren is trending on twitter due to the Berner cult and Russian trolls.

Because of course.

She just won re-election ffs. Yeah I’ll say it here. Fuck Bernie Sanders and the atmosphere he’s created.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:37:53am

Looks like after treading water yesterday, it could be another bad day on Wall Street. The Dow has started down 500 points.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:39:15am

re: #323 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Looks like after treading water yesterday, it could be another bad day on Wall Street. The Dow has started down 500 points.

Trump is losing the economy as an issue so I look to him to scapegoat more.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:39:28am

re: #172 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There’s only one candidate who contributed to the 2020 rules. And it’s Bernie. I’m so fucking tired of our party being extorted by supporters of a man who has never cared about strengthening the Democratic Party except to benefit himself.

the problem with the plurality argument in a one chance vote/race is that the majority wanted someone/anyone else

.:. ranked choice voting

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:41:05am

re: #325 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

the problem with the plurality argument in a one chance vote/race is that the majority wanted someone/anyone else

.:. ranked choice voting

An issue I’ll add that progressives within the Democratic Party have argued for.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:44:34am
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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:45:08am

These people absolutely suck. I’d have put my dog on them if they came to my house with a fucking bullhorn.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:46:41am

re: #326 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

An issue I’ll add that progressives within the Democratic Party have argued for.

I can be progressive when i wanna be

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:47:44am

re: #325 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

the problem with the plurality argument in a one chance vote/race is that the majority wanted someone/anyone else

.:. ranked choice voting

Ironically polling shows that the second choice of many Biden supporters is Bernie Sanders. Not surprising, because the two of them have the highest name recognition in the field, and that is all the info a lot of voters base their decisions on.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:48:28am

re: #328 makeitstop

These people absolutely suck. I’d have put my dog on them if they came to my house with a fucking bullhorn.

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They are Herbertists. Radicals who can never be satisfied or placated.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:48:42am

re: #291 steve_davis

oh that’s great. that means that the virus may have an unknown vector, like being able to ride in on mail, for instance. thank god this thing is 2% fatal and not 60%, like MERS.

It’s probably more like traveler A gave it to airport employee B who gave it to friend C who gave it to this guy.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:49:38am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:50:55am

PS
Imo Warren is the best speaker of the lot of them

Clear
Concise
Facts at her fingertips
Describes without “teaching”
Explains so you can understand
Listens and acknowledge s the question
Very compelling, likeable, generates a feeling of honesty

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:52:09am

Dow down 607

Heckuva job there Trumpie

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:53:06am

re: #335 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Dow down 607

Heckuva job there Trumpie

Oops, there goes another 750 billion in value.

Heckava job there, President Shithead!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:53:17am

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:54:00am

re: #330 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Ironically polling shows that the second choice of many Biden supporters is Bernie Sanders. Not surprising, because the two of them have the highest name recognition in the field, and that is all the info a lot of voters base their decisions on.

I’m ok with however it shakes out because the process leaves a clear winner and less ‘gaming’ of the system

As to motivations, I always say I don’t care who you vote for I care how you decide who to vote for. This is where you change minds

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:54:13am

re: #328 makeitstop

They’re nothing but disruptors and saboteurs.

Meanwhile, the administration which they aren’t protesting against, is going to get many of us killed because the imbecile in charge is worried about NASDAQ and not actual lives.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:54:14am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:54:26am

Maybe, just maybe the boss will reconsider his revocation of teleworking…

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:55:07am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:55:52am

re: #328 makeitstop

These people absolutely suck. I’d have put my dog on them if they came to my house with a fucking bullhorn.

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This is why Bernie will go down in flames against Trump. AND it’s why Putin and his Republican pals want Bernie as the Democratic candidate.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:56:18am

re: #335 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Dow down 607

Heckuva job there Trumpie

In fairness, though there is no reason to be fair to Trump, even if we had a competent President the market would likely be crashing because there is no way to get a vaccine developed in less than a year, and the pandemic in China alone is likely to cause economic disruptions.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:56:26am

re: #324 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Trump is losing the economy as an issue so I look to him to scapegoat more.

Dems fault for existing and talking.

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sagehen  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:56:29am

re: #329 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

I can be progressive when i wanna be

I’m a Teddy Roosevelt progressive.

I’m still deeply attached to what the Republican Party used to stand for.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:57:08am

Are we shaking hands with others today? Friends and business acquaintances?
I’m ceasing that activity for a time.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:57:46am

re: #344 NO SMOCKING GUN!

In fairness, though there is no reason to be fair to Trump, even if we had a competent President the market would likely be crashing because there is no way to get a vaccine developed in less than a year, and the pandemic in China alone is likely to cause economic disruptions.

The markets might not be nearly as volatile with a competent administration; manage the risks better. A better communicator of those risks. A calm president would urge people to be careful, and adjust their expectations during this kind of crisis.

Trump’s not doing any of that. He’s in full on denial and avoidance mode and his howlers are busy claiming a conspiracy is afoot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:58:14am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:59:02am

re: #346 sagehen

I’m a Teddy Roosevelt progressive.

I’m still deeply attached to what the Republican Party used to stand for.

I consider myself an Obama liberal Democrat. Am I probably personally to Obama’s left? Sure but our core ideology of inclusive democracy that works for everyone matters to me.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 6:59:32am

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They were warned is all I can say.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:00:26am

re: #335 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Dow down 607

Heckuva job there Trumpie

Results of Tuesdays debate finally kicked in

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:01:32am

re: #348 lawhawk

The markets might not be nearly as volatile with a competent administration; manage the risks better. A better communicator of those risks. A calm president would urge people to be careful, and adjust their expectations during this kind of crisis.

Trump’s not doing any of that. He’s in full on denial and avoidance mode and his howlers are busy claiming a conspiracy is afoot.

This + a bunch

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:01:48am

re: #352 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Results of Tuesdays debate finally kicked in

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:02:45am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:03:14am

re: #350 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I consider myself an Obama liberal Democrat. Am I probably personally to Obama’s left? Sure but our core ideology of inclusive democracy that works for everyone matters to me.

My core:
Liberty and justice, for *all*

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:05:20am

re: #356 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

My core:
Liberty and justice, for *all*

Yep. From the youngest baby to the oldest person. I think a lot of my ideology is shaped indirectly by the liberal Catholicism of my grandparents and my reading of history.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:06:05am

re: #348 lawhawk

The markets might not be nearly as volatile with a competent administration; manage the risks better. A better communicator of those risks. A calm president would urge people to be careful, and adjust their expectations during this kind of crisis.

Trump’s not doing any of that. He’s in full on denial and avoidance mode and his howlers are busy claiming a conspiracy is afoot.

All absolutely true.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:07:02am

Remember when a Bircher tried to get Mom and Dad involved in their cult. Mom replied, “Gee, I didn’t know Teddy Roosevelt was a member of the…GASP…illuminati…”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:07:55am

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:08:17am

re: #344 NO SMOCKING GUN!

In fairness, though there is no reason to be fair to Trump, even if we had a competent President the market would likely be crashing because there is no way to get a vaccine developed in less than a year, and the pandemic in China alone is likely to cause economic disruptions.

No doubt. But his constant crowing about high indexes equating a booming economy is just so stupid. Everyone but the douchebag himself and his cult know this. When you take responsibility for the success of something you have little to no control over, you deserve all the heat for when it’s falling apart.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:09:00am

re: #360 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Stephen Colbert’s Bush “Great or greatest President” makes even more sense now.

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lizardofid  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:11:14am

re: #344 NO SMOCKING GUN!

In fairness, though there is no reason to be fair to Trump, even if we had a competent President the market would likely be crashing because there is no way to get a vaccine developed in less than a year, and the pandemic in China alone is likely to cause economic disruptions.

re: #348 lawhawk

The markets might not be nearly as volatile with a competent administration; manage the risks better. A better communicator of those risks. A calm president would urge people to be careful, and adjust their expectations during this kind of crisis.

Trump’s not doing any of that. He’s in full on denial and avoidance mode and his howlers are busy claiming a conspiracy is afoot.

Agreed all round. My gut though, is bubbles have been popped by much less.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:12:12am

re: #362 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Stephen Colbert’s Bush “Great or greatest President” makes even more sense now.

You know what’s really depressing?

I wouldn’t be surprised if Federal Employees got an e-mail with something like that requiring us to take a loyalty oath to Trump…oh and sign the NDA, too…

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:12:39am

I have cnbc.com up, and I’m refreshing it regularly to see what is happening. 15 minutes ago, their main article said the Dow drops over 650, and the Dow was at 500 down. Now, they’ve updated it to say 500 down, and the Dow is now 640 down.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:13:16am

Just waiting for coworkers to whine about the next iPhone being delayed…

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:14:04am

re: #365 Belafon

I have cnbc.com up, and I’m refreshing it regularly to see what is happening. 15 minutes ago, their main article said the Dow drops over 650, and the Dow was at 500 down. Now, they’ve updated it to say 500 down, and the Dow is now 640 down.

Volatility, just what the markets love……

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:15:36am

re: #364 Joe Bacon 🌹

You know what’s really depressing?

I wouldn’t be surprised if Federal Employees got an e-mail with something like that requiring us to take a loyalty oath to Trump…oh and sign the NDA, too…

That’s why I’m reluctant to take a job with the feds honestly.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:16:01am

re: #367 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Volatility, just what the markets love……

It’s what plants crave.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:19:37am

re: #364 Joe Bacon 🌹

You know what’s really depressing?

I wouldn’t be surprised if Federal Employees got an e-mail with something like that requiring us to take a loyalty oath to Trump…oh and sign the NDA, too…

If I were one of those employees, I would forward it on to the relevant media outlets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:22:51am

re: #304 Dave In Austin

Thanx Lee. Me and the Public Schools of the 60’s and 70’s.
I tested in the 150’s for IQ and hated school. I would have done better if given the basics and put an a guided path of discovery.

I was even skipped a grade from 2nd to 3rd, but that was suboptimal, I was not emotionally or socially developed enough, especially when I hit the 7th grade, a late pubertizer already a year behind the rest…

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:23:13am

How’s the gig economy doing? (cough)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:24:26am

re: #311 lawhawk

Trump’s comment that he can fire CDC and NIH and then bring back experts should a crisis arise is bass-ackward.

virologists and epidemologists are not like Uber drivers, for chrissakes

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:24:45am

re: #365 Belafon

I have cnbc.com up, and I’m refreshing it regularly to see what is happening. 15 minutes ago, their main article said the Dow drops over 650, and the Dow was at 500 down. Now, they’ve updated it to say 500 down, and the Dow is now 640 down.

-732

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:24:47am

Well, this is somewhat terrifying…

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:26:06am

re: #373 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

virologists and epidemologists are not like Uber drivers, for chrissakes

The pool of qualified people is real, real small.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:26:17am

re: #374 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

-732

“No, Mr. President. The sweats you have from watching your presidency tank are not from the corona virus.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:26:36am

re: #333 Dave In Austin

I used to hang out with James McMurtry when we were students at Arizona University in Tucson. Mostly I played in a bluegrass band with his girlfriend, but we also sat and jammed on some Gram Parsons songs in my living room.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:27:14am

re: #374 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

-732

-792

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:27:51am

re: #348 lawhawk

The markets might not be nearly as volatile with a competent administration; manage the risks better. A better communicator of those risks. A calm president would urge people to be careful, and adjust their expectations during this kind of crisis.

Trump’s not doing any of that. He’s in full on denial and avoidance mode and his howlers are busy claiming a conspiracy is afoot.

Also another President would not make such a personal issue about the performance of the Dow Jones and insist that he is the sole reason it had been increasing.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:29:35am

re: #377 Belafon

If only.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:32:34am

re: #376 Scottish Dragon

The pool of qualified people is real, real small.

and most of them colledge eddicated librul coastall eleits!

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:33:51am

re: #363 lizardofid

Agreed all round. My gut though, is bubbles have been popped by much less.

The bubble here is Corporate Debt. All the big businesses have been unable or unwilling to invest in new products or higher salaries for workers, so they’ve been artificially boosting their stocks prices by borrowing money and doing “Stock buy-backs.”

Basically, using a credit card to boost their checking account.

When the revenues start to slip, they’ll miss payments. And then the banks start getting shifty again…

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:34:41am

re: #379 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

-792

Over 900.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:35:14am

Anyway, if you are voting in SC, and your primary motivation is to stop Bernie, you better vote for Joe Biden. fivethirtyeight.com

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:35:24am

re: #384 Belafon

Over 900.

940

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sagehen  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:36:36am

re: #376 Scottish Dragon

The pool of qualified people is real, real small.

and most of them, when they lost their federal jobs, took state jobs or city jobs. They’re not catching up on their gardening or home repairs waiting to get called back to work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:39:34am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:40:09am

re: #385 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Anyway, if you are voting in SC, and your primary motivation is to stop Bernie, you better vote for Joe Biden. fivethirtyeight.com

Voting for Joe here on Tuesday.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:40:49am

re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and most of them colledge eddicated librul coastall eleits!

Yeah, turns out that the 40-year-long war by the GOP against Smart People has consequences. Whoda thunk it?

Portrait of a Trump voter: Hates & fears educated people. Makes relentless war on expertise for 40 years.
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:45:06am
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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:45:34am

It got down to 950, but is back up to down 800.

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:46:13am

re: #342 Scottish Dragon

How about renaming those forts after All-American buzzwords that would be politically neutral:

Ft. Freedom
Ft. Liberty
Ft. Constitution
Ft. Enterprise
Ft. Justice
Ft. Tranquility
Ft. Independence
Ft. Security
Ft. Capitol

Are just some possibilities.

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SerialUpDinger  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:46:35am

Jeff Tiedrich
@itsJeffTiedrich
all I’m saying is that when fighting a global pandemic, it helps if your president isn’t the stupidest fucking recklessly-impulsive pig-ignorant science-denying toady-hiring government-defunding incompetent dipshit on the planet

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:47:14am

re: #289 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Could be better…

Having a bad feather day.
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:47:18am

re: #394 SerialUpDinger

Jeff Tiedrich
@itsJeffTiedrich
all I’m saying is that when fighting a global pandemic, it helps if your president isn’t the stupidest fucking recklessly-impulsive pig-ignorant science-denying toady-hiring government-defunding incompetent dipshit on the planet

It’s bad enough that he doesn’t know science. It’s even worse that he hates deferring to experts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:49:03am
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:50:22am

Oooops, I guess the Berner Army is fixing to go after Florida now.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:51:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:51:16am

re: #398 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Oooops, I guess the Berner Army is fixing to go after Florida now.

time to berate all those old people and Latinos

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:51:22am

re: #306 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Guess Trump’s presser didn’t calm markets or nerves. Picking Pence didn’t give anyone confidence that Trumpworld knows what it’s doing.

Market futures all pointing lower - and put the market on pace to be in correction territory after the selloff earlier this week.

A correction is 10% decline from highs.

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The market futures suggest that the markets will open with more than 10% decline so far this week. And economic data isn’t going to help, as the govt released that the 4Q2019 economic growth was 2.1%, again showing that the economy isn’t juiced from Trump/GOP tax cuts, and that Trump’s trade war continues having an effect.

It’s going to be a wild, roller coaster ride on the market today. I wouldn’t be surprised with a 1,000 point loss, or a 100 point loss at the closing bell. Currently down 675.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:52:05am

re: #398 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

If that holds, Bernie gets precisely 0 delegates from Florida (15% threshold).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:53:05am

re: #398 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Oooops, I guess the Berner Army is fixing to go after Florida now.

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While a lot of us prefer Warren, Biden is the best positioned candidate to defeat Sanders.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:53:15am

Good to see Donnie’s bullshit propaganda event last night has such positive effects on the markers in early trading.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:53:17am

re: #402 lawhawk

If that holds, Bernie gets precisely 0 delegates from Florida (15% threshold).

And Florida is closed.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:53:24am

re: #401 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The markets are in fits and spasms because there’s no leadership from Trump and he contradicts his own people within moments of speaking. Calm leadership is required, and Trump has none of the skills needed to manage risk.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:54:44am

re: #400 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

time to berate all those old people and Latinos

Whoda thunk that people in Florida still cared about Castro after all of these years?

//

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:55:25am

re: #284 Targetpractice

Ayep. They’re already demanding a travel ban on all Chinese citizens.

And with the outbreaks starting to be publicized about the Middle East they’ll soon expand the harassment to Iranians and brown people in general.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:55:37am

re: #406 lawhawk

The markets are in fits and spasms because there’s no leadership from Trump and he contradicts his own people within moments of speaking. Calm leadership is required, and Trump has none of the skills needed to manage risk.

He doesn’t even have the capacity to shut the fuck up and let the professionals handle it, which would be the absolute minimum we should be able to expect.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:55:41am

re: #403 NO SMOCKING GUN!

While a lot of us prefer Warren, Biden is the best positioned candidate to defeat Sanders.

Although I also prefer Warren, is looking that way. Would hope that Biden will pick Warren as VP if he is nominated.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:57:11am

re: #410 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Although I also prefer Warren, is looking that way. Would hope that Biden will pick Warren as VP if he is nominated.

While she would be a terrific VP, the Democrats really need a person of color on the ticket. Stacy Abrahms!

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:57:30am

re: #357 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yep. From the youngest baby to the oldest person. I think a lot of my ideology is shaped indirectly by the liberal Catholicism of my grandparents and my reading of history.

- liberty means freedom to mostly do what you want and be left alone
- justice means fairness and proportional equity in all things
- for all means everyone’s included - we all put in and we all get out. when it’s better for every one, it’s better for everyone. if it’s not for all it’s neither liberty nor justice.

any spin or twisted interpretation to exclude or gain unfair advantage is downright unamerican. after all, it’s the pledge of allegiance fer cryin out loud

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:57:39am

re: #410 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Although I also prefer Warren, is looking that way. Would hope that Biden will pick Warren as VP if he is nominated.

I think he needs to go younger and with a woman of color. Harris, Abrams, Val Demmings would all fit that bill. I can see Warren being vital for his legislative agenda though or in a cabinet or agency that may fit her skillset.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:58:04am

re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Also another President would not make such a personal issue about the performance of the Dow Jones and insist that he is the sole reason it had been increasing.

Trump’s ego is entirely bound to stock market performance, and watching the markets gyrate and go into freefall because Trump’s policies and statements are making the situation worse isn’t going to help Trump deal with the crisis.

Other presidents would warn that the markets might be volatile, but the interest of govt is keeping people safe. That would help stabilize things, but Trump’s more interested in making sure the markets rise since he’s bound himself to how the markets do as a proxy for how he does (only when the markets are good - it’s always someone else’s fault when the markets decline).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:58:25am

Plus, Warren can hold the Administration’s feet to the fire as a US Senator; she’s one of the best.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2020 • 7:58:27am

Highly likely that the last 6-8 months of gains will be wiped out by tomorrow….because of an idiotic used car salesman is in the White House.

*no offense to actual used car salesman*

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:00:04am

re: #411 NO SMOCKING GUN!

While she would be a terrific VP, the Democrats really need a person of color on the ticket. Stacy Abrahms!

There’s a lot of qualified African-American women for the position. I can think of three right now: Harris, Abrams, and Demmings. And I know exactly who he was talking about when he said when we need an African-American woman on SCOTUS.
en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:00:57am

Molly is at CPAC

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:02:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:02:57am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:04:02am

re: #392 Belafon

It got down to 950, but is back up to down 800.

please put your seat back forward

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:05:21am

re: #419 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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He doesn’t wear pants!

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:06:00am

re: #421 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

The captain has put the seatbelt sign on due to turbulence ahead (and coronavirus in the cabin). Please stow your tray tables and loose items and return your seats to the locked and upright position.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:06:19am

re: #409 NO SMOCKING GUN!

He doesn’t even have the capacity to shut the fuck up and let the professionals handle it, which would be the absolute minimum we should be able to expect.

if he did he could crow about the big win
and would take all the credit anyway
but no…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:06:34am

O_o

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:07:36am

-473
Well, it’s bound to be an exciting day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:11:12am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:11:27am

Upding for the “YOU MANIACS! YOU DID IT! YOU FINALLY DID IT” imagery …

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:11:34am

re: #338 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

I’m ok with however it shakes out because the process leaves a clear winner and less ‘gaming’ of the system

As to motivations, I always say I don’t care who you vote for I care how you decide who to vote for. This is where you change minds

to follow up:

the way many voters make voting decisions is not based on policies, on identifying one’s obvious needs and seeing which candidate matches those needs.

it’s not even based on a logical evaluation of candidates statements and/or behavior.

It is all based on affinity and identity. voting is no longer about politics and governance; it is about the expression of voter identity in political terms.

Republicans can’t run on the truth about their goals because their goals are summed up as making the rich richer and repealed everything related to the New Deal.

so republicans cheat. and when they cheat they are cheating you - whoever ‘you’ are - all of you, all of us, except the mega wealthy.

You are being used and mocked at the same time.

EVERY Trump voter made the same Faustian bargain. Wealthy, ‘fiscally conservative moderates’ sacrificed their reputations and dignity. they traded social justice, the planet, their daughter’s rights, international relations, safe gun policy, the health care of millions and more for their own tax cut. The struggling, white middle class traded it all for a fictional job promise. they all debased themselves and their country to maintain control of the Supreme Court.

every single day that bargain gets worse - what seemed like a temporary political compromise is becoming an indelible moral stain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:12:22am
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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:12:39am

This isn’t good: there’s indications that you do not get immunity to coronavirus even after being infected once. There’s a case in Japan where a woman apparently was diagnosed with the disease two separate times.

If people can’t retain immunity for prolonged periods of time, it likely means that the disease will continue to spread among the population unlike with the flu where you are considered immune to that variant once you’ve had it. It’s acting like the common cold (which you can get over and over again).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:15:02am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:16:03am

re: #399 Scottish Dragon

Yeah, I paged this a few days ago, and people seem to be catching on …

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:16:07am

You have to see this to believe it.

Dancing Nazis and a float with smokestacks.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:17:00am

re: #284 Targetpractice

Ayep. They’re already demanding a travel ban on all Chinese citizens.

Even worse: Uber and Lyft drivers have been refusing to pick up people who look Asian, here in the US.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:17:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:17:49am

re: #434 Scottish Dragon

You have to see this to believe it.

Dancing Nazis and a float with smokestacks.

Or is this a “Springtime for Hitler”-style piss take?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:18:17am

re: #435 Belafon

Even worse: Uber and Lyft drivers have been refusing to pick up people who look Asian, here in the US.

I’ve heard about that.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:18:25am

re: #437 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Or is this a “Springtime for Hitler”-style piss take?

No. It was for real.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:20:08am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

All full of white people.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:20:20am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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damn
that orange….

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:20:41am

re: #438 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’ve heard about that.

The MAGAts will be only too happy to transfer their random beatings and shootings of Muslims to Asians.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:20:44am

re: #439 Scottish Dragon

No. It was for real.

I assume it was part of a Mardi Gras procession, which is often a big political piss-take. (do not take this as any sort of approval, just trying to gain some more context)

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:22:06am

re: #396 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s bad enough that he doesn’t know science. It’s even worse that he hates deferring to experts.

I wish we had President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. At least he knew how stupid he was and he would bring in Not Sure to solve the problem!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:22:48am

re: #444 The Pie Overlord!

I wish we had President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho. At least he knew how stupid he was and he would bring in Not Sure to solve the problem!

I still need to see this movie. I’m probably the only Lizard who has not. I watch mostly series these days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:23:01am

But, please feel free to regulate women’s bodies.

*SPIT*

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jeffreyw  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:23:05am

re: #395 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Could be better…

[Embedded content]

Hate it when that happens..

needs caffeine in the nectar
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:23:48am

re: #445 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I still need to see this movie. I’m probably the only Lizard who has not. I watch mostly series these days.

Have only seen a few isolated scenes.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:24:26am

re: #445 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I still need to see this movie. I’m probably the only Lizard who has not. I watch mostly series these days.

I haven’t yet. It’s like Mike Judge’s other movie, Office Space, I have to figure out when the best time to watch it with my kids is.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:24:30am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

But, please feel free to regulate women’s bodies.

*SPIT*

I’ve seen this stupid logic used by libertarians before. It’s why they’re never going anywhere as a party since they’re complete idiots when it comes to understanding shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:24:44am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:25:47am

re: #449 Belafon

I haven’t yet. It’s like Mike Judge’s other movie, Office Space, I have to figure out when the best time to watch it with my kids is.

I have seen Office Space and I was a big Beavis and Butthead fan in the 90’s. King of the Hill I originally liked but then got a little too blah for me. But my humor has evolved since then too. I just binged on Derry Girls- a show set in Derry, Northern Ireland during the Troubles. Found it hilarious.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:26:21am

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

And I can see Trump opposing this just because they impeached him.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:26:41am

… athough, now that I see how bad Trump supporters are with geography, they might start shooting the Chinese food delivery guy on the general theory that he’s from China so why not?

huffpost.com

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:28:02am

Woot. Black Keys with Gary Clark Jr coming around again. Ticket achievement… unlocked.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:28:20am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

But, please feel free to regulate women’s bodies.

*SPIT*

you know i’m fine with those possibly forseeable consequences
so pass the damn law
let a real 1A problem actually surface
then fight it

you’re not erring on the side of some kind of laudable caution
you’re erring on the side of stupidity and cowardice

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:28:21am

re: #454 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

… athough, now that I see how bad Trump supporters are with geography, they might start shooting the Chinese food delivery guy on the general theory that he’s from China so why not?

huffpost.com

Yeah I’m really worried for Chinese visitors to our country and Chinese-Americans and really Asian-Americans of all kinds.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:28:56am

re: #455 lawhawk

Woot. Black Keys with Gary Clark Jr coming around again. Ticket achievement… unlocked.

Sweet! Where at. I really enjoy both of em. I’m seeing Drive by Truckers on Saturday night in DC.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:30:04am

Who’s he going to open an investigation on? Obama? Hillary? Mueller? Page/Strozk?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:30:25am

Federally protected civil rights is a foreign concept to Yoho, Gohmert, Amash, and Massie. These of course are the same guys who will insist to you that you can’t call Republicans racist since Lincoln. One of the biggest reason aside from their Bizarro Marxist interpretation of economics why I could never be a Libertarian is also their absolute idiocy when it comes to federally protected civil rights.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:30:57am

re: #459 makeitstop

Who’s he going to open an investigation on? Obama? Hillary? Mueller? Page/Strozk?

He found 100 communists at the State Department?

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:31:00am

re: #458 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

PNC Bank Arts Center in NJ

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:33:08am

re: #462 lawhawk

PNC Bank Arts Center in NJ

Sweet. Have fun. Gary’s This Land was such a powerful song:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:36:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:37:25am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:37:39am

re: #464 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

And watch people like Rush use the fact that this individual worked for Obama to discredit them to Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:38:49am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

If he fucks the economy because of this bullshit, I’m legitimately worried. Yeah I think it will help defeat Trump but economic troubles are the shit that demagogues dream of.

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:39:02am

re: #461 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He found 100 communists at the State Department?

He has a list!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:39:46am

re: #468 makeitstop

He has a list!

Yeah on them is Jim’s liquor store in Pensacola which is where he gets his Burnetts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:40:30am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:42:14am

That’s why I refer to CPAC as Assholepalooza

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:43:52am

re: #470 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No one knows how to “weaponize fear” quite like Fox folks.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:44:22am

re: #291 steve_davis

oh that’s great. that means that the virus may have an unknown vector, like being able to ride in on mail, for instance. thank god this thing is 2% fatal and not 60%, like MERS.

Per Wikipedia, MERS is 30+%, not 60%. There were earlier studies when the disease first appeared that suggested a higher death rate but now it seems to have settled at around 30+, still devastating.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:45:20am
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:45:31am

WTAF

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:46:32am

re: #445 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I still need to see this movie. I’m probably the only Lizard who has not. I watch mostly series these days.

Nope. I haven’t either. Just don’t watch many movies now, and watched none for decades while my husband was alive. Just no time!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:46:36am

re: #475 The Pie Overlord!

WTAF

This reminds me of when someone I forget who was telling Stephen Hawking he’d be dead if not for socialized medicine and he responded “Well you know, I’ve been kept alive by it.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:47:15am

re: #476 retired cynic

Nope. I haven’t either. Just don’t watch many movies now, and watched none for decades while my husband was alive. Just no time!

It’s a slightly older one. I’m watching more shows since I think they allow for better character development.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:47:33am
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unproven innocence  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:48:21am

re: #395 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Could be better…

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That there bird sure is a good climber. :) Amazing how many people will swear that Peacocks can’t fly. I’ve personally seen them fly.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:49:07am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

My cousin’s in laws live in Scotland. Her father in law is retired RAF. Don’t know what he is politically there but they have some stories about Trump in Scotland when it comes to his gold courses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:52:41am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:52:53am

DOW down about 600 at the moment.

I am amused by imagining Trump throwing a tantrum about this because his biggest “achievement” is promptly going right down the shitter and there is NOTHING he can do about it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:54:19am

re: #483 Eclectic Cyborg

DOW down about 600 at the moment.

I am amused by imagining Trump throwing a tantrum about this because his biggest “achievement” is promptly going right down the shitter and there is NOTHING he can do about it.

Been saying this since Ukraine first came up but when Trump does not control the narrative, he cannot win. He’s been bragging that all the economic successes are thanks to him. If we get the right nominee, I think we could bury the asshole.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 27, 2020 • 8:59:35am
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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:04:20am
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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:06:42am

The Arrogance of Michael Bloomberg He thought none of his stances would matter if he just spent enough money. Martin Longman, Washington Monthly

Yet, Bloomberg somehow thinks he’s a good fit for this party and this time. Any objective observer would disabuse him of that notion, but he believes he can just overcome dissent with money. I don’t know what offends me the most, the idea that his ambition should cancel out the values of the Democratic Party or the idea that people are so suggestible that paid advertising can cause them to abandon their principles.

Bloomberg has always treated party affiliation (whether Republican, Democratic, or independent) as a matter of strategy rather than principle. Now he appears to believe that he’s the only person who can beat Trump and that he can simply spend the other candidates out of contention and Trump out of office.

It might have worked for Bloomberg if he didn’t have such a public record of being terrible on the things that matter to the left, but it was the height of arrogance for him to think that none of that would matter.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:07:06am

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dr. Matt  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:11:05am

re: #459 makeitstop

Who’s he going to open an investigation on? Obama? Hillary? Mueller? Page/Strozk?

He’s going to re-pledge his fealty to Dear Leader.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:11:16am

The market’s climbing out of its hole. It’s down 360 now. The question that people need to be asking is how much the government is borrowing to buy stocks to change the direction of the market.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:13:02am

re: #486 Scottish Dragon

That would be the second. Africa is also dealing with them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:13:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:14:29am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:16:29am

re: #493 Backwoods_Sleuth

They think we’re all just dying to vote for Bernie. I shocked the hell out of a good friend I’ve known for 30 years by expressing my distaste for Bernie. I had no problem doing it. I needed to point out to him that I’m less left wing than he is right wing. He got his political education from Ben Shapiro. I got mine by listening to people who experienced The Great Depression and the 60’s.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:16:46am

So Pence is spending the day at CPAC, wasting critical moments before the coronavirus possibly ramps up?

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:17:15am

A beautiful Etsy site by Rachel Dein: Botanical Casts

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:17:33am

re: #393 Florida Panhandler

Fort Courage

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sagehen  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:17:39am

re: #414 lawhawk

Other presidents would warn that the markets might be volatile, but the interest of govt is keeping people safe. That would help stabilize things, but Trump’s more interested in making sure the markets rise since he’s bound himself to how the markets do as a proxy for how he does (only when the markets are good - it’s always someone else’s fault when the markets decline).

Other presidents would talk about federal funding for testing, for treating the uninsured, for quarantine and other pro-active public health measures…. once the hospitals, pharmaceutical factories, glove and mask factories, etc, realize they’re getting no-bid massive purchase orders, their stock would go up enough to provide some counterweight to the companies whose just-in-time supply chains have their share prices dropping.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:19:48am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:20:18am

re: #495 Amory Blaine

So Pence is spending the day at CPAC, wasting critical moments before the coronavirus possibly ramps up?

Seriously. If he actually took this seriously. He would cancel his appearance at CPAC. Who gives a fuck about CPAC right now other than right wing manbabies.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:22:11am

re: #493 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:22:59am

re: #497 Sherlock Hound

Fort Courage

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:23:33am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

PELOSI: “The president said something so strange that you really have to wonder. He said the reason the market dropped was because of the debate the other night. Well, the market had dropped 1,000 points before the debate … Let’s not by silly.”

But the markets already KNEW what sort of socialistic anti-Americanism the Democratic candidates would be spouting, so they were just proactive about it…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:24:44am

re: #501 Chrysicat

Honestly, I’d hate a brokered convention but when Trump has directly asked his supporters to interfere in the Democratic primary, it may not be the worst thing possible. However, I’m hoping Biden wipes the floor Saturday and begins a comeback. I really do think he’s the best candidate right now. I know I’m in the minority here as a lot like Warren and I genuinely respect your opinion because ideologically I’m closer to Warren than I am Biden. However, as someone in an increasingly blue state governed by a moderate Democrat, I have seen the positives that come with a capable executive and legislative majority.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:26:33am

re: #501 Chrysicat

Just a thought: Brokered conventions weren’t a problem until the CRA passed. Then the Democrats divided into whites who don’t like minorities and whites who wanted change for everyone, and that fight took place at the 68 convention.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:26:33am

susan’s brow is furrowed

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:27:18am

Thanks for the tool Charles.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:28:24am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:29:17am

re: #505 Belafon

Just a thought: Brokered conventions weren’t a problem until the CRA passed. Then the Democrats divided into whites who don’t like minorities and whites who wanted change for everyone, and that fight took place at the 68 convention.

That is correct. A lot of what we know about modern conventions comes from ‘68 Humphrey and ‘72 McGovern.

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mmmirele  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:29:23am

re: #347 Dave In Austin

Are we shaking hands with others today? Friends and business acquaintances?
I’m ceasing that activity for a time.

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sagehen  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:30:39am

re: #475 The Pie Overlord!

WTAF

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Pretty sure it was “I don’t need a seatbelt, I’m special” that killed Princess Diana.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:31:22am

re: #505 Belafon

Just a thought: Brokered conventions weren’t a problem until the CRA passed. Then the Democrats divided into whites who don’t like minorities and whites who wanted change for everyone, and that fight took place at the 68 convention.

Yes, I recall that there was a big push starting in the 60’s to make primaries more democratic and transparent.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:32:06am

re: #511 sagehen

Pretty sure it was “I don’t need a seatbelt, I’m special” that killed Princess Diana.

Not to mention that she died in fucking Paris., nowhere near the British NHS and I am pretty sure that she was privately insured in any case

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sagehen  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:32:34am

re: #480 unproven innocence

That there bird sure is a good climber. :) Amazing how many people will swear that Peacocks can’t fly. I’ve personally seen them fly.

They sound like a woman being stabbed to death. No amount of pretty feathers can compensate for that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:33:21am

re: #511 sagehen

Pretty sure it was “I don’t need a seatbelt, I’m special” that killed Princess Diana.

Well that and a somewhat inebriated driver.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:34:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:35:58am
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sagehen  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:37:09am

re: #487 retired cynic

The Arrogance of Michael Bloomberg He thought none of his stances would matter if he just spent enough money. Martin Longman, Washington Monthly

It might have worked for Bloomberg if he didn’t have such a public record of being terrible on the things that matter to the left, but it was the height of arrogance for him to think that none of that would matter.

Yeah, okay, he has a public record of being terrible on a couple of things that matter to the left.

He also has a public record being exceedingly wonderful on some other things that matter to the left.

The scales of Bloomberg’s record have weights on both sides.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:37:26am

re: #508 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Are these people asking unaware or just using a rhetorical tactic to get others to spell out how nightmarish pre-ACA was?

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:39:20am

re: #518 sagehen

Yeah, okay, he has a public record of being terrible on a couple of things that matter to the left.

He also has a public record being exceedingly wonderful on some other things that matter to the left.

The scales of Bloomberg’s record have weights on both sides.

“Both sides are bad, but vote for him because he’s the only way you aren’t voting Republican”?

Not a really good look.

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Belafon  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:40:50am

re: #518 sagehen

Yeah, okay, he has a public record of being terrible on a couple of things that matter to the left.

He also has a public record being exceedingly wonderful on some other things that matter to the left.

The scales of Bloomberg’s record have weights on both sides.

My biggest beefs with Bloomberg is that his party affiliation is based on expediency, like a certain senator from Vermont, and that he thinks he can buy his way in. If we had a rational nomination system, he wouldn’t be able to.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:43:33am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:44:15am

re: #519 Chrysicat

Are these people asking unaware or just using a rhetorical tactic to get others to spell out how nightmarish pre-ACA was?

If people want to know why I get annoyed with Sandersbros, it’s because they take for granted how hard it was to get ACA. They’re just like ACA sucks. I can’t get denied coverage because of my heart condition anymore. Is ACA perfect? Nah but can we build on it and improve, hell fucking yeah. And that’s why I refuse to get labeled as a “centrist.” Biden got my philosophy down- progressives get shit(he said stuff) done.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:44:18am

re: #518 sagehen

Yeah, okay, he has a public record of being terrible on a couple of things that matter to the left.

He also has a public record being exceedingly wonderful on some other things that matter to the left.

The scales of Bloomberg’s record have weights on both sides.

If he gets the nod, I’ll hold my nose and vote for him. Personally, he has too many negatives for me to vote for in the primariy. His views on Trans-Women being one of them.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:44:44am

She said, “Love, Lord above,
now you’re tryna’ trick me in love.”
All right now, baby, it’s a-all right now.
All right now, baby, it’s a-all right now.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:44:58am

re: #519 Chrysicat

Unaware and incapable of remembering back to the pre-ACA days. Purposefully obtuse.

The GOP has spent the last decade undermining the PPACA (aka ACA aka Obamacare). Trump and GOP are currently in federal courts seeking to invalidate the entirety of the law, after their repeated failures to repeal it legislatively.

They’ve curbed the expansion. They’ve fought to eliminate the individual mandate that funds this. They fought to eliminate the medical device tax.

Everything they’ve done is about limiting access to coverage and rolling back the expanded options under Obamacare - including the protection for those with preexisting conditions.

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retired cynic  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:45:30am

re: #510 mmmirele

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:46:20am

re: #483 Eclectic Cyborg

DOW down about 600 at the moment.

I am amused by imagining Trump throwing a tantrum about this because his biggest “achievement” is promptly going right down the shitter and there is NOTHING he can do about it.

as powerless as stopping an overflowing toilet

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:46:28am

re: #525 jaunte

She said, “Love, Lord above,
now you’re tryna’ trick me in love.”
All right now, baby, it’s a-all right now.
All right now, baby, it’s a-all right now.

On page 53 of your hymnal….

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:48:53am
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jaunte  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:49:20am

re: #529 makeitstop

I guess Don’t You Worry ‘Bout A Thing was “too urban.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:49:51am

And, towards the end of the article

“… Opponents of transgender service members have argued that their medical and psychological needs degrade readiness and unit cohesion ― particularly if they are diagnosed with gender dysphoria, a type of anxiety associated with feeling one’s mind doesn’t match one’s body.

A similar argument propped up the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” ban on homosexual troops until 2011, though research post-integration has shown no measurable differences.

“For example, a study published just over one year after the repeal of DADT found no overall negative impact from the repeal on morale, retention, unit cohesion or readiness to serve, and instead found that the repeal enhanced the military’s capacity to pursue its missions,” according to The Palm Center, citing research published in the journal Armed Forces & Society.

That study found that being able to openly serve, without the pressure to hide identities, improved morale among troops and their units. …”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:50:42am

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A pardon doesn’t mean you did not do the crime.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:51:09am

re: #511 sagehen

Pretty sure it was “I don’t need a seatbelt, I’m special” that killed Princess Diana.

Years ago there was a TV discussion on how Diana would likely have survived here because under our standard practices, she would have been taken to the hospital much earlier than in Paris, where they do more to stabilize the victim before transporting them.

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lawhawk  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:51:46am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:52:38am

re: #490 Belafon

The market’s climbing out of its hole. It’s down 360 now. The question that people need to be asking is how much the government is borrowing to buy stocks to change the direction of the market.

This is typical market behavior. Once it drops to a certain point programmed trading will start seeing value and then buy.

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Chrysicat  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:52:58am

re: #532 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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And, towards the end of the article

Of course, this regime is surprising me that they haven’t already rolled back to before DADT, let alone “back to it”.

Or have I just forgotten that they discharged all openly gay people along with known transfolk?

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:53:15am

He must be very dangerous.

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lizardofid  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:54:02am

re: #530 lawhawk

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I expect Kudlow is working like a carnival barker to stop the decent in “correction territory” : )

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:54:19am

I’m not sure if this is still accurate two and a half hours later

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:54:54am

re: #506 Backwoods_Sleuth

susan’s brow is furrowed

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Yes Susan, you’ve hitched your wagon to a party and administration that *wants* to screw over poor people as the default option.

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:54:58am

re: #518 sagehen

Yeah, okay, he has a public record of being terrible on a couple of things that matter to the left.

He also has a public record being exceedingly wonderful on some other things that matter to the left.

The scales of Bloomberg’s record have weights on both sides.

i realize this is a primary so to an extent it’s now bloomberg vs old bloomberg

here’s what i posted yesterday:

list the issues a Bloomberg presidency will be better for than another 4 years of Trump: tax distribution, health care, guns, climate change, Supreme Court nominees, border walls, LGBTQ rights (despite his personal expression of opinion, yes i do believe his policy responses will be so much better).

Unless you believe Bloomberg is the same pathological liar about every single thing that Trump is, then on every issue, every consequence, he’d be better.

that’s the only metric that matters

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makeitstop  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:55:41am

re: #531 jaunte

I guess Don’t You Worry ‘Bout A Thing was “too urban.”

They could have gone with ‘End of the Line’ by the Wilburys, despite the title.

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sagehen  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:56:10am

re: #520 Chrysicat

“Both sides are bad, but vote for him because he’s the only way you aren’t voting Republican”?

Not a really good look.

I’m not both-sidesing him v other candidates, I’m both sides-ing his good record and his bad one.

Yeah, stop & frisk was a real thing that actually happened, and he said what he said. And his rhetoric to and about women in the workplace was very 1980’s. There’s a certain amount of demerits due him for those.

But he’s also had extensive real achievements on climate change, guns and health care. Nationally. And he’s consistently said exactly what D’s would want a candidate to say about immigration and reproductive choice and taxes (although his achievements in those last three are local only, it hasn’t been part of his national activism).

I’m not calling him perfect. I’m saying we could do a lot worse. And nominating Bernie would be worse — landslide loss in the general, plus his anti-coattails for House and Senate races.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:56:13am
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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:56:36am

re: #523 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

If people want to know why I get annoyed with Sandersbros, it’s because they take for granted how hard it was to get ACA. They’re just like ACA sucks. I can’t get denied coverage because of my heart condition anymore. Is ACA perfect? Nah but can we build on it and improve, hell fucking yeah. And that’s why I refuse to get labeled as a “centrist.” Biden got my philosophy down- progressives get shit(he said stuff) done.

they were all born after ACA was passed so they think it’s always been this way //

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:57:03am

re: #530 lawhawk

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:57:17am

re: #514 sagehen

They sound like a woman being stabbed to death. No amount of pretty feathers can compensate for that.

Neighbors of my brother at his own place had peacocks. You could hear them all the time even though their house was 80-100 yards away through woods. Another neighbor mentioned at a holiday party that she was constantly tempted to sneak over there some day and strangle the damn birds to shut them up.

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jaunte  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:57:59am
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Amory Blaine  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:59:03am

re: #545 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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lizardofid  Feb 27, 2020 • 9:59:56am

re: #540 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m not sure if this is still accurate two and a half hours later

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So far, as bad is things are, they’ve not yet approached 2008. (fingers crossed)

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 10:00:40am

re: #540 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m not sure if this is still accurate two and a half hours later

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just because the market only closes once per day, at the end of the day, it still hit that low, even though it rebounded somewhat by the close

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 27, 2020 • 10:01:31am

re: #523 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

If people want to know why I get annoyed with Sandersbros, it’s because they take for granted how hard it was to get ACA. They’re just like ACA sucks. I can’t get denied coverage because of my heart condition anymore. Is ACA perfect? Nah but can we build on it and improve, hell fucking yeah. And that’s why I refuse to get labeled as a “centrist.” Biden got my philosophy down- progressives get shit(he said stuff) done.

If the ACA gets trashed without a reasonable replacement I am simply screwed. I’m semi-retired in my mid-50s and thus multiple years from Medicare (and presumably on the heels of killing ACA they trash that too.) I am in the pre-existing condition/high-risk pool for multiple reasons. And though I have savings, it’s not going to handle buying so-so coverage at 4+ times what I am currently paying.

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Targetpractice  Feb 27, 2020 • 10:02:47am

re: #545 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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It’s not just the restaurant industry, it’s pretty much all service industry jobs looking at a labor shortage because (wait for it) people don’t want to work jobs that pay shit wages and subject them to constant abuse by employer and customer alike. So instead of tackling either of those barriers to full staffing, they instead decide to further shrink their manpower needs through increased automation.

(This, of course, in the point in the conversation where the wingnut being argued with whines that “burger flippers” are already overpaid for something that’s supposed to be an “entry level job,” so if a machine is what it takes to ensure they can still harden their arteries with “cheap” burgers, then so be it.)

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#thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)  Feb 27, 2020 • 10:03:12am

re: #548 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Neighbors of my brother at his own place had peacocks. You could hear them all the time even though their house was 80-100 yards away through woods. Another neighbor mentioned at a holiday party that she was constantly tempted to sneak over there some day and strangle the damn birds to shut them up.

ditto here - around 80 yards down the road
hurricane wilma took out the enclosure and they presumably bolted
it’s been quiet ever since

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mmmirele  Feb 27, 2020 • 10:04:17am

re: #527 retired cynic

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 27, 2020 • 10:04:46am

re: #549 jaunte

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Hey, the virus simply capitalized on a new and enlarged available market!
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Mattand  Feb 27, 2020 • 10:05:15am

re: #518 sagehen

Yeah, okay, he has a public record of being terrible on a couple of things that matter to the left.

He also has a public record being exceedingly wonderful on some other things that matter to the left.

The scales of Bloomberg’s record have weights on both sides.

You’re seriously going to Magic Balance Fairy shit like Stop and Frisk? You know, the policy of using the cops to harass minorities for the crime of walking and minding their own business?

What the fuck, dude?

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sagehen  Feb 27, 2020 • 10:05:40am

re: #548 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Neighbors of my brother at his own place had peacocks. You could hear them all the time even though their house was 80-100 yards away through woods. Another neighbor mentioned at a holiday party that she was constantly tempted to sneak over there some day and strangle the damn birds to shut them up.

Justifiable avicide. No jury would convict.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 27, 2020 • 10:08:10am

re: #550 Amory Blaine

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And then you find out the following:
1. Flippy’s maintenance personnel can’t be paid minimum wage.
2. If Flippy breaks during lunch hour you’re SOL - since you have no spare staff to
pick up the slack. (And possibly untrained on the equipment.)
3. If Flippy is not properly maintained I presume you get undercooked* and overcooked food.

* - And this possibly leading to some very nice lawsuits or very unhappy health inspectors.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 27, 2020 • 10:12:57am

re: #555 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

ditto here - around 80 yards down the road
hurricane wilma took out the enclosure and they presumably bolted
it’s been quiet ever since

My guess is that peacocks can’t really fare as well in the wild as pheasant or turkey. So they got picked off in the wild fairly soon afterwards. Though I expect they could sort of fit in the turkey niche since flight is sufficient to get them up into the lower branches of trees at night to roost or otherwise avoid ground predators. (I’ve seen turkeys do this when startled by a cat.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 27, 2020 • 11:27:41am

re: #504 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Honestly, I’d hate a brokered convention but when Trump has directly asked his supporters to interfere in the Democratic primary, it may not be the worst thing possible. However, I’m hoping Biden wipes the floor Saturday and begins a comeback. I really do think he’s the best candidate right now. I know I’m in the minority here as a lot like Warren and I genuinely respect your opinion because ideologically I’m closer to Warren than I am Biden. However, as someone in an increasingly blue state governed by a moderate Democrat, I have seen the positives that come with a capable executive and legislative majority.

And my Republican relatives in South Carolina will all vote for Bernie on Saturday…

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re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

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