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1
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Feb 28, 2020 • 3:56:19pm

Ah, that fresh thread smell.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2020 • 3:56:58pm

This is a good one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:00:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:02:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:05:41pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:06:27pm

re: #1 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Ah, that fresh thread smell.

It was completely sanitized before being posted. New Coronavirus policy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:07:05pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

I posted #5 specially for you!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:08:42pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:08:44pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

I posted #5 specially for you!

Thanks. Voted for Stellaris.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:11:48pm

I just picked up my mail. A pile of “support this” and ” vote for that” plugs. Ha ha, too late, I already voted.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:12:14pm

Because the “Democrat Establishment” hates health coverage and are all “white moderates”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:14:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:16:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:18:21pm

morons
all of them

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:20:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:20:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:20:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:21:46pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

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Disloyal Archangel  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:21:50pm

Trump is a known germophobe. Moving forward, protesters at his godawful rallies shouldn’t bother with signs or shouts.
They should just spread out among the crowd and start loudly coughing at more or less the same time when the rubes and paid participants aren’t cheering.
Hell, people need to start coughing and sneezing whenever he’s out of the Oval Office.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:22:26pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jamie is really savvy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:22:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:23:54pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:27:48pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I listened to that interview with Jesus and Stage 4 Cancer, and Jesus said that he responded to the HIV problem in a “quick amount of time.” Notice he didn’t say exactly how long or what “quick” meant. He also evaded many of the softballs cancer through at him. It was a fucking joke.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:29:07pm

re: #23 Ace Rothstein

I listened to that interview with Jesus and Stage 4 Cancer, and Jesus said that he responded to the HIV problem in a “quick amount of time.” Notice he didn’t say exactly how long or what “quick” meant. He also evaded many of the softballs cancer through at him. It was a fucking joke.

probably completely ignored that fact that he was the one who caused the HIV problem in the first place.

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EPR-radar  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:30:54pm

How many motherfucking hate rallies has this imbecilic pig-fucker had?

Every single one of them is a war crime.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:31:02pm

LOL, good one, Tami!

oh, she isn’t joking…

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:31:29pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:32:14pm

re: #27 Ace Rothstein

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Next they’ll tell us that the GDP went up.

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:32:34pm

re: #27 Ace Rothstein

Good news for people who live for 120 years.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:34:19pm

The only way to combat the libs and their plot to destroy the stock market with corona virus hysteria is tax cuts.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:35:05pm

re: #25 EPR-radar

In Trump’s America there are never enough crosses to burn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:36:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:38:56pm

JFC, he’s all over the place

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:40:19pm

oh…

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:40:46pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

That question about being called black or AA never happened. JFC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:41:55pm

re: #35 Ace Rothstein

That question about being called black or AA never happened. JFC.

HE LIED?!?!?!

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:42:21pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can’t believe it myself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:42:52pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:44:50pm

Yeah, I thought that girl had kind of a “Prussian Blue” vibe….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:45:35pm

good grief

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:45:45pm

Great. Just down the Peninsula.

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EPR-radar  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:45:53pm

re: #39 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, US conservatism is intrinsically racist, so this comes as no surprise.

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EPR-radar  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:47:24pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh joy. It’s in the county I both live and work in. Inevitable, of course, but it’s still bad news.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:48:09pm

re: #42 EPR-radar

Well, US conservatism is intrinsically racist, so this comes as no surprise.

Well, certainly racists are intrinsically conservative.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:51:47pm

re: #39 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, I thought that girl had kind of a “Prussian Blue” vibe….

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No shock there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:57:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 4:59:24pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:01:23pm

Trump said “we’re ordering the medical,” but can someone tell him that it’s the same as recreational just with expedited service and sometimes home delivery?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:03:21pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Add CMOH winners to Trump’s tough guys who cry in front of him.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:05:18pm

The BLR of this thread had me howling when he turned the SOTU into a failed stand-up comedy bit.

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BeachDem  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:06:34pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How can you not love Jaime? Just sent him another $50.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:07:22pm

re: #51 BeachDem

How can you not love Jaime? Just sent him another $50.

that was an excellent ad

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Disloyal Archangel  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:07:26pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

Great. Just down the Peninsula.

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Well…. * CENSORED *.
I mean, sure, it was bound to happen eventually.
But why couldn’t it be after my return flight departs from California instead of just a few days after the tickets were purchased… :S

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BeachDem  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:14:27pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JFC, he’s all over the place

The only thing more nauseating than reading Trump’s rally ravings is reading Jenna Johnson’s hagiography on Nina Turner in the WaPo. (not linking so as to protect you all from it)

Think I’ll go watch a movie.

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:20:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:21:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:22:20pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:22:35pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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He can never stop whining.

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EPR-radar  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:24:46pm

“Whiny brat Trump spends hours lying and sniveling at his latest hate rally, just like Gollum obsessing over his lost Ring” needs to be a headline.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:26:35pm
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aatharuv  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:27:38pm

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

Calling their political policy, conservativism is really just a way of making their political policy sound orders of magnitude nicer than it really is.

They’re a group of bomb throwing radicals that maximizes the short term over the long term, not worrying about tomorrow, and engaging in denial of fundamental truths ranging about human nature or the laws of physics, in the aims of furthering millenialist fantasies which involve putting a boot on human liberty forever, confiscatory redistribution of wealth and income, and class warfare.

And then we have an actual conservative party that believes that government shouldn’t be large enough to intrude into people’s purely personal liberties, that makes changes to law gradually with deliberation as and when we gain a better understanding of human nature and as and when we realize more gaps in the Founders’ ideal that all men [sic] are created equal, that believes in fiscal responsibilty and that government should live within its means, that people who benefit from the government the most should pay their fair of taxes, and that believes in the common welfare.

We call the actual conservatives, Democrats.

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:32:57pm

Incoherent In Chief

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retired cynic  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:35:33pm

re: #39 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, I thought that girl had kind of a “Prussian Blue” vibe….

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Stefan Molyneux, UGH, and he’s misogynistic, too!

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EPR-radar  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:36:15pm

re: #61 aatharuv

I wouldn’t go so far to defend conservatism per se. After all, there’s been a lot of progress in human history, and conservatives have been against all of it.

IMO political conservatism is justified only in extremely rare cases of progress/revolution getting completely out of hand (e.g., the worst excesses of the French Revolution).

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Teukka  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:40:14pm

re: #62 jaunte

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Incoherent In Chief

Behaving like a pandemic outbreak doesn’t exist (and/or is a hoax) is a recipe for disaster…

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aatharuv  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:42:27pm

re: #64 EPR-radar

Agreed. I’d say the Democrats are closer to Burkean conservatives when compared to the modern Republican party (which is arguably in negative impact like the worst excesses of the French revolution).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:44:08pm

re: #62 jaunte

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Incoherent In Chief

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:48:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:50:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:50:30pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:50:39pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is so dangerous.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:50:43pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:51:45pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah things happen. One day you’re not impeached and the next day you are.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:52:24pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

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Indeed. The truly scary stuff hasn’t gotten the coverage.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:54:58pm

IT’S A HOAX

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:56:48pm
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EPR-radar  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:56:50pm

re: #66 aatharuv

Agreed. I’d say the Democrats are closer to Burkean conservatives when compared to the modern Republican party (which is arguably in negative impact like the worst excesses of the French revolution).

Burkean conservatives are much better than the reactionary death cult US Republicans have become.

However, they are still basically useless any time revolutionary terror isn’t a pressing political issue.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:56:58pm

re: #75 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

IT’S A HOAX

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My parents were going to go this summer. Feel bad for my mom since she’s never been overseas before.

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Kilroy was here  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:57:13pm

Oregon has its first presumed case of coronavirus
kgw.com
Go team!

/s

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:59:15pm

re: #66 aatharuv

Agreed. I’d say the Democrats are closer to Burkean conservatives when compared to the modern Republican party (which is arguably in negative impact like the worst excesses of the French revolution).

Even Burke wasn’t that conservative. He supported the American Revolution and the end of the Penal Laws in his native Ireland. He just wasn’t in love with how the French Revolution turned out. He wasn’t a Metternich or a Czar Alexander I.

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Belafon  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:59:23pm

My sister, former Air Force member married to an Air Force chief master sergeant, who works for some part that deals with contracts. She has been sent to a base in Kosovo, to try to find out what needs to be fixed at the base.
Her first shot at fixing things came on the first morning. At four something in the morning, the smoke alarm went off. She went to find the the evacuation plan, which had fallen off. The number on the document was disconnected. She finally found someone who suggested calling 911. She did, and the person on the line asked if they could wait until 8am.
It didn’t take very long for her to get in touch with the right people and a whole lot of changes were put in place the first day.
She traveled into the capitol to get some dinner with some people and found out a couple of things. One, they love Bill Clinton:

Bill Clinton, twice

Yes, both an image and a statue. Also, they have a Hillary store, where you can buy pantsuits: google.com

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EPR-radar  Feb 28, 2020 • 5:59:34pm

re: #76 jaunte

That looks to be among people already in quarantine, as opposed to community transmission.

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:00:37pm

re: #82 EPR-radar

Yes, people from the cruise ship, taken to Lackland AFB.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:01:10pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:02:30pm

re: #81 Belafon

My sister, former Air Force member married to an Air Force chief master sergeant, who works for some part that deals with contracts. She has been sent to a base in Kosovo, to try to find out what needs to be fixed at the base.
Her first shot at fixing things came on the first morning. At four something in the morning, the smoke alarm went off. She went to find the the evacuation plan, which had fallen off. The number on the document was disconnected. She finally found someone who suggested calling 911. She did, and the person on the line asked if they could wait until 8am.
It didn’t take very long for her to get in touch with the right people and a whole lot of changes were put in place the first day.
She traveled into the capitol to get some dinner with some people and found out a couple of things. One, they love Bill Clinton:

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Yes, both an image and a statue. Also, they have a Hillary store, where you can buy pantsuits: google.com

People who claim Muslims hate Americans should go to Kosovo. The Clinton administration did the right thing there after the mistakes of Rwanda.

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Teukka  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:03:53pm

re: #76 jaunte

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:04:21pm

re: #81 Belafon

My sister, former Air Force member married to an Air Force chief master sergeant, who works for some part that deals with contracts.

Sounds remarkably like my daughter, but she deals with base housing.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:05:01pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:06:08pm
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:07:53pm

Hoax?

When it comes down to worrying about your life and the lives of your family or believing some cheerleader, the cheerleader typically loses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:17:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:17:45pm

if only this were true…

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:17:46pm

“The CDC and Vice President Mike Pence’s office, which is coordinating the government’s response to the virus, did not respond to questions for this story. It’s unclear who in the government originally made the decision to design a more complicated test, or to depart from the WHO guidance.”

This is like the story about the U.S. weather service in 1900 who didn’t believe the Cuban forecasters who predicted the storm would threaten Galveston because they were foreigners.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:21:15pm

Rachel is pointing out that estimates in Lombardy are 4% of the population already infected. Last night I calculated that if the 2% mortality rate holds then for every 1/10,000th of the US population that gets infected, 654 people will die. Even with the most optimistic assumptions the raw numbers are going to be grim.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:22:23pm

re: #93 jaunte

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“The CDC and Vice President Mike Pence’s office, which is coordinating the government’s response to the virus, did not respond to questions for this story. It’s unclear who in the government originally made the decision to design a more complicated test, or to depart from the WHO guidance.”

This is like the story about the U.S. weather service in 1900 who didn’t believe the Cuban forecasters who predicted the storm would threaten Galveston because they were foreigners.

I have to wonder if the WHO sanctioned test kits are proprietary, with a limited foreign manufacturing base.
It would be one reason to justify developing a US developed test.

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Amory Blaine  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:26:48pm

Just picked up some Rammstein tickets. Me right now

Old man dancing to Rammstein - Du riechst so gut

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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:30:01pm

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed in a Friday briefing that it is doubling-down on containment efforts against COVID-19 spread in the U.S.

Speaking with reporters in a weekly Friday briefing, Director of the Center for the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases Dr. Nancy Messonnier confirmed that state health clinics and labs will be able to begin coronavirus testing with update kits delivered from the CDC.

Messonnier said that experts had revised faulty tests and removed the third reagent component that gave inconclusive results. The kits now use two reagents, which she says will work properly. The CDC manufactured new test kits through the International Reagent Resource, a branch of the CDC. The test kits are called Research Use Only (RUO) and Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), and available for order from both domestic and international public health partners.
thehill.com

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:31:13pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

Rachel is pointing out that estimates in Lombardy are 4% of the population already infected. Last night I calculated that if the 2% mortality rate holds then for every 1/10,000th of the US population that gets infected, 654 people will die. Even with the most optimistic assumptions the raw numbers are going to be grim.

To illustrate, if we keep the entire infection rate down to the current 4% in Lombardy (pretty optimistic) and if we assume the real mortality rate ends up being 0.2% instead of 2%, then that still means 26K dead Americans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:32:21pm

re: #95 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I have to wonder if the WHO sanctioned test kits are proprietary, with a limited foreign manufacturing base.
It would be one reason to justify developing a US developed test.

I figured that BigPharma guy in the Cabinet figured to make a profit with a US developed test

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:32:26pm
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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:33:08pm

“…Although no labs have received authorization from the FDA so far, the agency says a completed application can be approved within a day in emergencies. The paperwork takes time to put together, but Mina says his lab has already begun that process.

“FDA has engaged with over 70 developers working on tests,” a spokeswoman from the agency told WBUR in an email, adding that the FDA “remains committed to working with developers and the community to ensure the public health need for testing is met.”
wbur.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:34:57pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:36:10pm
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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:39:01pm

“…The CDC has processed more than 3,600 tests for the new coronavirus, according to Azar, who said there is currently no backlog in having them processed quickly.

In comparison, South Korea already has tested more than 78,000 people, including 10,000 tested in a single day, according to the Korean National Health and Human Services Department website.”
abcnews.go.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:39:52pm
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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:43:00pm

10 million people live in Lombardy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:43:38pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:48:07pm
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plansbandc  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:49:29pm

tRump wants us to die. He thinks only poor people and Dems are going to get the virus.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:49:41pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:49:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:50:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:51:52pm
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jaunte  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:53:55pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chaotic Evil

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 6:55:40pm

Utter wraithdom

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Disloyal Archangel  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:04:18pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:05:48pm

The moment of truth comes nigh. Who shall I vote to take down the Trump admin? Torn between Pete and Warren.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:15:42pm
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Disloyal Archangel  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:18:00pm

re: #117 Rightwingconspirator

The moment of truth comes nigh. Who shall I vote to take down the Trump admin? Torn between Pete and Warren.

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Well I don’t know about you, but I can state - with considerable certainty - that I believe that both Michael Ellinger and Mark Stewart Greenstein are, without a shadow of a doubt, the only true candidates whom I’ve no idea even existed until just now…

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retired cynic  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:21:30pm

re: #119 Disloyal Archangel

And that’s just page 2!

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:22:31pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:23:11pm

re: #121 goddamnedfrank

Gee, I wonder if that shit might skew the reporting?

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Disloyal Archangel  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:24:11pm

re: #121 goddamnedfrank

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:39:54pm

re: #123 Disloyal Archangel

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America having its fair share of apocalyptic cults I’m sure there will be some people who deliberately try to spread it far and wide.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:40:03pm

re: #93 jaunte

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“The CDC and Vice President Mike Pence’s office, which is coordinating the government’s response to the virus, did not respond to questions for this story. It’s unclear who in the government originally made the decision to design a more complicated test, or to depart from the WHO guidance.”

This is like the story about the U.S. weather service in 1900 who didn’t believe the Cuban forecasters who predicted the storm would threaten Galveston because they were foreigners.

Why do I suspect there is an underlying profit motive involved as well? In that using the WHO developed test couldn’t be monetized effectively by a US firm, while a CDC-developed one would have been contracted out in such a way to make someone a bit of coin.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:43:02pm
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Amory Blaine  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:59:14pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

Giphy

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 7:59:20pm

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

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“ I didn’t hear that.”
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“ What he meant actually.”

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 8:32:21pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 8:41:44pm
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BeachDem  Feb 28, 2020 • 8:47:02pm

re: #100 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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First of all, Jaime’s side-eye is everything

And also, the moron’s rally was at 7 (or that was when it was supposed to start—he’s always late.) The time stamp on the Tweety interview with Jaime is 7:39—did he think Jaime, after yukking it up with Lindsey and Trump, changed his suit and tie and was ready for an interview at another location? Matthews is a total fool. And, having been around Jaime and, unfortunately, Tim Scott, I can say, conclusively, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SIMILARITY.

I will say Scott is one of those people who gives me the creeps whenever I’m in the same room as he is—weird vibes—same thing as when I met Tulsi.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 8:51:49pm

re: #131 BeachDem

First of all, Jaime’s side-eye is everything

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And also, the moron’s rally was at 7 (or that was when it was supposed to start—he’s always late.) The time stamp on the Tweety interview with Jaime is 7:39—did he think Jaime, after yukking it up with Lindsey and Trump, changed his suit and tie and was ready for an interview at another location? Matthews is a total fool. And, having been around Jaime and, unfortunately, Tim Scott, I can say, conclusively, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SIMILARITY.

I will say Scott is one of those people who gives me the creeps whenever I’m in the same room as he is—weird vibes—same thing as when I met Tulsi.

MSNBC has really disappointed me lately. What kind of dumbass shit is this? I really like Jamie btw. Like Doug Jones, this Virginia Dem is glad to see Democrats competing in places that we typically don’t compete in. Hopefully Bakari Sellers runs too. There’s an exciting new generation of Democrats that get ignored because they’re not promising the entire world but they are pragmatic progressives.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 28, 2020 • 8:57:42pm

I’m willing to bet that once this bigoted piece of sh*t realizes Garth Brooks was wearing a Barry Sanders jersey and not supporting Bernie Sanders, he’ll still be angry with Brooks because Barry Sanders is black.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 8:59:42pm

re: #133 DodgerFan1988

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I’m willing to bet that once this bigoted piece of sh*t realizes Garth Brooks was wearing a Barry Sanders jersey and not supporting Bernie Sanders, he’ll still be angry with Brooks because Barry Sanders is black.

Barry had the best response. Asked Garth to be his running mate. We could do worse.

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:06:09pm

re: #128 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

“ I didn’t hear that.”
“ He didn’t say that.”
“ What he meant actually.”

“I’m very concerned.”

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BeachDem  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:07:33pm

re: #132 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

MSNBC has really disappointed me lately. What kind of dumbass shit is this? I really like Jamie btw. Like Doug Jones, this Virginia Dem is glad to see Democrats competing in places that we typically don’t compete in. Hopefully Bakari Sellers runs too. There’s an exciting new generation of Democrats that get ignored because they’re not promising the entire world but they are pragmatic progressives.

There’s talk of Bakari running for Clyburn’s seat when he retires—of course, there’s also talk of one of Clyburn’s daughters running for the seat as well as several others. As much as I adore Bakari and love seeing him fairly often, I sometimes wish he’d move to another state where he could have a better chance. I do remember the first time I saw him speak, I thought “this must be how people seeing a young Obama felt.”

And he has twins named Sadie and Stokely! (Sadie had a liver transplant last fall

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:09:10pm

So Trump is going after Comcast now. Can’t they both lose?

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BeachDem  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:09:54pm

re: #133 DodgerFan1988

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I’m willing to bet that once this bigoted piece of sh*t realizes Garth Brooks was wearing a Barry Sanders jersey and not supporting Bernie Sanders, he’ll still be angry with Brooks because Barry Sanders is black.

But this was great—

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:15:59pm

re: #138 BeachDem

But this was great—

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Garth responded. Turns out they’re both Oklahoma State University alums. They kinda brightened the day a little for me as did seeing both Kaine and Wexton endorse Joe. I’m thinking about going to work for the Biden campaign pending tomorrow night. I need to get involved and I know I’m a minority here but I think he really is the best to beat Trump and expand majorities and create new ones.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:17:12pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

So Trump is going after Comcast now. Can’t they both lose?

Unfortunately I’ve seen too many Yankees-Sox games and Pats-Ravens games. Why is he going after Comcast tho?

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:18:52pm

re: #140 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Unfortunately I’ve seen too many Yankees-Sox games and Pats-Ravens games. Why is he going after Comcast tho?

NBC. He’s declared them “worse” than CNN.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:23:07pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

NBC. He’s declared them “worse” than CNN.

I guess it wouldn’t be a day ending in day without Trump having an enemy to rail at.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:29:50pm

Got this framed for my brother for his birthday. (Which is still a few months away.)

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:32:33pm

So Trump thinks the whole coronavirus outbreak is a “hoax,” but he’s also throwing a fit that the media and Dems are not giving him credit for “containing” it. And he’s insisting that it’s not spreading in the US, despite two cases that are unrelated to recent travel cropping up within 24 hours of his declaring it to be so.

Oh, and he only started to give a shit about the virus on Monday, when the markets started crashing for reasons unconnected to his awesome skills as a “dealmaker.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:34:54pm

re: #144 Targetpractice

So Trump thinks the whole coronavirus outbreak is a “hoax,” but he’s also throwing a fit that the media and Dems are not giving him credit for “containing” it. And he’s insisting that it’s not spreading in the US, despite two cases that are unrelated to recent travel cropping up within 24 hours of his declaring it to be so.

Oh, and he only started to give a shit about the virus on Monday, when the markets started crashing for reasons unconnected to his awesome skills as a “dealmaker.”

It’s his usual, heads I’m a victim, tails I’m a hero. I cannot wait for this to be all over.

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uriel  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:38:43pm

re: #27 Ace Rothstein

Minute I saw that, I couldn’t help but notice something, that I’m pretty sure fox didn’t want us to notice:

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:46:16pm
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mmmirele  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:57:48pm

For the past few years, a few people in Dalton, Georgia, had been pushing an alleged miracle—a Bible that oozed oil. It was reckoned that the Bible had oozed over 400 gallons of oil since early 2017. The book was kept in a continually sloshing plastic bin of oil, after a Ziploc bag proved not to be sufficient to capture the oil.

In recent weeks, the local newspaper (actually the Chattanooga Times Free Press, which really is local) did some in-depth reporting on the subject and basically busted the “miracle”. Someone (identified as one of the promoters, one Jerry Pearce) had been buying mineral oil by the gallon at the local Tractor Supply. And the oil from Tractor Supply was identified as being identical in chemical structure to the oil from the Bible that was put in small vials and given away.

Overnight, pretty much everything shut down—the weekly church services, the tours around the country with the Bible. (I believe they even came to Phoenix.) It all dried up.

One might just call this the rise and fall of a pious fraud, and it is that. But these people were very much supporters of Donald Trump, and they saw his rise as the harbinger of the oil-producing Bible, which started flowing oil after Trump’s inauguration. And then there was this:

The oil also conferred a kind of political status on the group and provided entree into a circle of Trump-supporting prophets who see themselves as intervening for the president in the spiritual realm. Johnny and Leslie said they were invited by Christian right activist Andrea Lafferty to the Supreme Court confirmation hearings of Brett Kavanaugh, where Johnny said he surreptitiously spilled “a lot” of the oil in the chambers.

One of the promoters also claimed he had a vision of Trump which basically called on pastors not to push Trump forward but to stand with Trump. However, it’s all gone now that this particular Bible has been exposed as being not what it seems.

slate.com

But never fear, the virus is spreading. The Chattanooga Times Free Press reported last week that an acoustic guitar at a church in Cleveland, Tennessee is now dripping oil, and there’s gold dust and flakes appearing at the church. Of course, it should come as no surprise that Jerry Pearce, one of the oil Bible promoters, had attended that church. But not everyone at the church was buying it:

The events splintered the Cleveland church. Members reported leaving, believing they were being deceived by their leader. Harry Brannen resigned from his position as associate pastor a week after the events began. He did not want to be a part of what was happening, he said.

timesfreepress.com

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 9:57:52pm

re: #147 goddamnedfrank

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Meanwhile, the Trump sycophants posing as Congress critters will spend their time in front of the cameras agreeing that it’s a hoax and insisting that the only reason the markets are puking blood is because the media is reporting at all about the coronavirus.

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:02:18pm

Look forward to three different lines from Repubs this weekend:

Admin officials: “REMAIN CALM! ALL IS WELL!”

Trump sycophants: “THIS IS ALL A HOAX! THERE’S NO VIRUS AND IF THERE IS THEN THE CHINESE CAUSED THIS TO UNDERMINE TRUMP! WE CANNOT ALLOW THE DEMS TO DESTROY OUR DEAR LEADER’S REELECTION BID!!!”

“Moderates”: “SORRYCAN’TCOMMENTLATEFORAMEETINGBYE!”

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:03:40pm

re: #149 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, the Trump sycophants posing as Congress critters will spend their time in front of the cameras agreeing that it’s a hoax and insisting that the only reason the markets are puking blood is because the media is reporting at all about the coronavirus.

Cargo cult conservatism, essentially, performing the rituals of confidence that summon success

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:05:51pm

re: #151 goddamnedfrank

Cargo cult conservatism, essentially, performing the rituals of confidence that summon success

Hence the sudden talk about “tax cuts” and “rate cuts” an hour before COB today.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:07:38pm

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:18:41pm

There’s aging poorly…and then there’s this:

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:21:11pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

Hence the sudden talk about “tax cuts” and “rate cuts” an hour before COB today.

If I were Nancy Pelosi I’d immediately pass a bill to quadruple the Social Security Death Benefit, if for no other reason than that is much more likely to be useful as economic stimulus.

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:28:22pm

re: #155 goddamnedfrank

If I were Nancy Pelosi I’d immediately pass a bill to quadruple the Social Security Death Benefit, if for no other reason than that is much more likely to be useful as economic stimulus.

I’m pretty positive Trump was absolutely gleeful the moment that Powell said the Fed might cut rates.

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:30:11pm

This voice. Wow.

Iframe

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:33:23pm

It truly is sad when the Mayor of Amity from Jaws seemed to give more of a shit about his people than the POTUS during a viral pandemic.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:36:27pm

re: #117 Rightwingconspirator

The moment of truth comes nigh. Who shall I vote to take down the Trump admin? Torn between Pete and Warren.

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I voted for Warren last Saturday.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:41:50pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:43:46pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

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So how do you like your pandemic? Contagion? Outbreak? Or 28 Days Later?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:49:40pm
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uriel  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:51:48pm

re: #148 mmmirele

For the past few years, a few people in Dalton, Georgia, had been pushing an alleged miracle—a Bible that oozed oil. It was reckoned that the Bible had oozed over 400 gallons of oil since early 2017. The book was kept in a continually sloshing plastic bin of oil, after a Ziploc bag proved not to be sufficient to capture the oil.

timesfreepress.com

Ok- right there. That right there is the point where I’m writing off anyone believing this nonsense off.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:57:05pm
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2020 • 10:57:53pm

re: #71 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

This is so dangerous.

Only to Trump supporters. If they convince themselves that COVID-19 is all a “hoax” or just “fake news”, then it’s really not too hard to guess who won’t seek medical help when/if they come down with it.

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:03:18pm

re: #162 goddamnedfrank

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The answer is because the rich has managed to con millions of Americans into believing that your pay is a measure of your worth to society. It goes hand-in-hand with convincing those same millions that “upward mobility” is still a thing in America, rather than companies locking pay raises behind “probationary periods” and “performance evals” where they can work you up to 89 days before firing you without cause and force you to work a whole year only to deny you a raise respectively.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:03:58pm

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

Only to Trump supporters. If they convince themselves that COVID-19 is all a “hoax” or just “fake news”, then it’s really not too hard to guess who won’t seek medical help when/if they come down with it.

Not only to Trump supporters. Noncooperative patients with easily transmissible diseases are a straight up public menace

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:08:21pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:11:35pm

re: #168 goddamnedfrank

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:14:46pm

re: #167 goddamnedfrank

Not only to Trump supporters. Noncooperative patients with easily transmissible diseases are a straight up public menace

Fair enough.

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:19:34pm

re: #168 goddamnedfrank

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This is what is ultimately going to kill us, the approach to public health that says “I ‘can’t afford’ to take a sick day.” That even if you have time on the book, your boss will find ways to either deny it or penalize you for doing so. Or that, even if they agree to let you take it, every day you take off will leave you further behind on your work and thus risk disciplinary action for that instead.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:27:05pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:28:29pm
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Dread Pirate  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:37:38pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

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That’s why I don’t dance, I can’t.

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Targetpractice  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:37:59pm

re: #172 Dread Pirate

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Wingnuts will read the headline and totally ignore the article itself, which lays out pretty clearly that A) these “investigations” are court-ordered instead of being pursued by investigators who believe there’s something there, B) are only happening because the law requires investigators to open an “investigation” anytime a petitioner calls for it, and C) odds are these “investigations” are unlikely to go anywhere and will probably be shut once the investigators assigned do just enough looking to satisfy the judge that they met the legal requirement.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:52:35pm

President Pazuzu

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Dread Pirate  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:54:51pm

I’m so fucking lost in season 2 of Altered Carbon. I’m going to have to go back to s1e1 and start all over.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 28, 2020 • 11:57:17pm

This is why Wall Street (and stock markets worldwide) are shitting the bed:

Chinese manufacturing activity plunged to an all-time low in February, with the first official data published amid the coronavirus outbreak confirming fears over the impact on the Chinese economy.

The official manufacturing purchasing managers’ index (PMI) slowed to 35.7, the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) said on Saturday, having slipped to 50.0 in January when the full impact of the coronavirus was not yet evident.

Analysts polled by Bloomberg had expected the February reading to come in at 45.0. A reading below 50 indicates a contraction in sector activity. The farther the figure is below 50, the greater the contraction in activity.

China’s official manufacturing PMI dropped to 38.8 in November 2008 at the start of the global financial crisis.

scmp.com

China has been at 10-25% capacity for over a month with no signs of that going to even 50% any time soon. The central government in Beijing has been propping up their market with shit loads of cash and probably some bullshit numbers and it goes without saying they won’t be able to juice their market forever.

I think we’ll find out in the next few weeks that China is only running at 25% capacity YoY. 25% is pretty much bupkis and when we couple that with processing and shipping lag-times and global distribution, that means major problems for everyone, in every market, that has supply chains based on Chinese manufacturing.

And that’s why we’re seeing COVID-19 market panic; it’s the realization that this pandemic is causing massive supply chain disruptions and those disruptions will harm profitability across a vast swath of industries, from heavy industry to hospitality.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:03:42am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:14:43am

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They are who we think they are…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:52:25am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:57:06am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 29, 2020 • 1:01:12am

re: #182 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

There’s a case like that in Washington state as well, up in Snohomish County; no travel history, no known contact with an infected individual.

It’s probably spreading like wildfire throughout the United States - first in the urban areas, then it’ll make its way to the more rural areas. And the lack of rural healthcare facilities is gonna present a big problem once COVID-19 arrives.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 29, 2020 • 1:04:12am
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Targetpractice  Feb 29, 2020 • 1:10:50am

Checking with a few other sources shows that the whole “investigations” into Biden business is thin gruel. Shokin exploited a legal process in Ukrainian law by which an alleged victim may request the State Bureau of Investigation look into alleged crime, and then petition the courts if the SBI refuses to do so. Shokin originally lost the case, but won on appeal due to a technicality that says the SBI has to at least file paperwork showing they looked into the matter before refusing to do a full investigation.

But now that the SBI has done so, there’s really not much more Shokin can do besides make a lot of noise in the media about “corruption” and “cover-ups.” The SBI is not legally obligated to go further than filing the initial paperwork and could declare as early as Monday that the whole thing is being circular-filed for lack of evidence. But considering the political nature of the matter, the more likely scenario is they’ll simply sit on it until after Biden loses the nomination or the election and then dump it out back behind the bins.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 29, 2020 • 1:17:19am
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TarHellion  Feb 29, 2020 • 3:06:40am

re: #186 DodgerFan1988

Gotta believe that Rep. Lieu will become Sen. Lieu when Feinstein’s seat comes available in 2024. Assuming, of course, that Feinstein does not opt to run again at age 91.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 29, 2020 • 4:59:35am

re: #96 Amory Blaine

Just picked up some Rammstein tickets. Me right now

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Yeah, I got excited when I saw they were coming to PA. Then I saw it was Philadelphia, not anywhere around here in NW PA. Little too much of a road trip for a concert for me. Pittsburgh or Cleveland is about my travel limit for such. Have fun, I bet it will be great.

I did text my son in San Antonio and lamented that they were playing in San Antonio but not around here. He said he has a couple friends that were probably going. They are not quite his cup-o-tea so he wasn’t interested in going.

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jeffreyw  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:16:31am

Good morning!

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sagehen  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:25:13am

re: #187 dirkdigglerjr

Gotta believe that Rep. Lieu will become Sen. Lieu when Feinstein’s seat comes available in 2024. Assuming, of course, that Feinstein does not opt to run again at age 91.

what about Adam Schiff?

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jeffreyw  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:42:21am

re: #177 Dread Pirate

I’m so fucking lost in season 2 of Altered Carbon. I’m going to have to go back to s1e1 and start all over.

I re-binged the 1st season just to be ready. I’m liking the Poe arc in season 2.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:51:26am

can’t happen soon enough. Everyone save this so we’ll have it when that joyous day comes.
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 5:55:00am

re: #190 sagehen

what about Adam Schiff?

I think Schiff might be in line to replace Pelosi as Speaker but I could see him in the Senate. Lieu too. Both are great legislators. But I’m sure there’s a lot of great California Dems. Pity there’s only two Senate seats.

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mmmirele  Feb 29, 2020 • 6:50:51am

Yesterday was an enormous trading day, lot of effort apparently going into propping up the markets. And yet the Dow was still down over 350 points.

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There was a LOT of market action yesterday, a LOT.

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TarHellion  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:19:48am

re: #190 sagehen

Yes, can’t overlook Schiff. Like LeftyRambles (Happy Warrior) noted, Schiff could be someone to replace Pelosi. Be it Lieu or Schiff, California won’t go wrong either way. Schiff will be 64 in 2024 and Lieu will be 55. Gavin Newsom will be 57 and likely into his second term as California governor. Depending on how 2020 plays out, he could be running for president in 2024.

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mmmirele  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:27:00am

And, in France, Roman Polanski got an award at the Césars (French equivalent of the Oscars) and it provoked a walkout.

euronews.com

Yeah, I watched that loop of Adèle Haenel many times.

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TarHellion  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:27:14am

re: #194 mmmirele

re: #194 mmmirele

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jaunte  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:30:40am
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steve_davis  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:31:55am

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“many people will hear his words and will not seek treatment….” many lemmings follow the boss over the cliff. it’s called culling the herd.

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sagehen  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:32:55am

re: #195 dirkdigglerjr

Yes, can’t overlook Schiff. Like LeftyRambles (Happy Warrior) noted, Schiff could be someone to replace Pelosi. Be it Lieu or Schiff, California won’t go wrong either way. Schiff will be 64 in 2024 and Lieu will be 55. Gavin Newsom will be 57 and likely into his second term as California governor. Depending on how 2020 plays out, he could be running for president in 2024.

Newsom’s ex-wife will throw.a wrench into any national aspirations. She’s DJT-Jr’s girlfriend, and god only knows what kind of crap she’ll spew about him. Some of which might even be true, but it won’t matter if none of it is.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:35:47am

re: #195 dirkdigglerjr

Yes, can’t overlook Schiff. Like LeftyRambles (Happy Warrior) noted, Schiff could be someone to replace Pelosi. Be it Lieu or Schiff, California won’t go wrong either way. Schiff will be 64 in 2024 and Lieu will be 55. Gavin Newsom will be 57 and likely into his second term as California governor. Depending on how 2020 plays out, he could be running for president in 2024.

Yeah I could see Newsom running for POTUS. One of my disappointments was that none of the governors emerged as strong candidates this cycle.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:38:10am

re: #200 sagehen

Newsom’s ex-wife will throw.a wrench into any national aspirations. She’s DJT-Jr’s girlfriend, and god only knows what kind of crap she’ll spew about him. Some of which might even be true, but it won’t matter if none of it is.

That’s definitely true unfortunately which sucks since Newsom seems like a nice extension of Jerry Brown. But yeah Kim would definitely air his dirty laundry and we know Don Jr has ambitions of his own. Some of us saw Ivanka as her father’s successor. Which is 1/2 true. Jared and her are going to be on the business side but Don Jr will be the political one. Don Jr gets seriously talked about as a candidate in 2024 despite doing nothing to build up a political resume other than being his daddy’s biggest ass kisser.

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steve_davis  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:39:04am

re: #80 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Even Burke wasn’t that conservative. He supported the American Revolution and the end of the Penal Laws in his native Ireland. He just wasn’t in love with how the French Revolution turned out. He wasn’t a Metternich or a Czar Alexander I.

you’re talking about edmund burke, the one who, when referencing “people,” was only referring to voting property owners?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:42:12am

re: #203 steve_davis

you’re talking about edmund burke, the one who, when referencing “people,” was only referring to voting property owners?

I’m talking about in terms of the 18th century where even our Founding Fathers thought that way. Is he a conservative, even reactionary by modern terms? Absolutely but opposing the Penal Laws and supporting the American Revolution wasn’t conservative by late 18th century standards. I don’t look to Burke as a guide FWIW because of exactly what you say which is why a lot of my political role models are post 18th century.

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TarHellion  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:42:49am

re: #200 sagehen

Gavin could just go all Ray J after Kim K wound up with Yeezy.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:46:18am

What is also going on with the markets right now is that the analysts (and whoever sets the parameters for the programs) are looking at the P/E (Profit/Expense) ratios and other company values to see what stocks might be dropping into ranges where purchasing them is a good (or much better) deal.

You might also see a few companies buying back their own stock as well if the price drops. Protects the value a bit and also gets it back in their own hands and concentrating the remaining value in fewer* hands.

So expect market days to see-saw more until things stabilize a bit. Things have probably not hit bottom yet though. And some industries will handle the coronavirus crisis better than others.

* - i.e. the majority shareholders making said decision.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:49:44am

re: #187 dirkdigglerjr

Gotta believe that Rep. Lieu will become Sen. Lieu when Feinstein’s seat comes available in 2024. Assuming, of course, that Feinstein does not opt to run again at age 91.

I want Adam Schiff.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:53:17am

re: #207 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

I want Adam Schiff.

I definitely hope Californians promote him. I saw him interviewed on Kimmel. What I like about him is he’s able to explain seriously the gravity of what’s all going on but also he’s down to earth too. He was talking about how he was visiting his daughter at college in NYC and someone recognized him and she said “Well Dad, it’s your neck.” We need more people with senses of humor in national politics. Hence why I really liked that Colbert-Warren appearance.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:58:39am

re: #208 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I definitely hope Californians promote him. I saw him interviewed on Kimmel. What I like about him is he’s able to explain seriously the gravity of what’s all going on but also he’s down to earth too. He was talking about how he was visiting his daughter at college in NYC and someone recognized him and she said “Well Dad, it’s your neck.” We need more people with senses of humor in national politics. Hence why I really liked that Colbert-Warren appearance.

Both have very good public personas. But do they have the backroom negotiating and “4 dimensional chess” abilities that seem to be the real key for good Speaker?

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TarHellion  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:59:38am

re: #206 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The S&P ran up 17 percent since the first of October because everyone had turned bullish. We were overdue for a correction, and the corona virus scare only amplified it.

The Fed and the other international rate managers will step in and cut rates, though some nations already are at or below zero. I heard one money manager ask a great question, though: “How does a rate cut get people to fly on airplanes or re-open schools?”

As for P/E ratios, there will have to be some re-assessments on earnings, particularly after Goldman Sachs came out with a note stating there will be zero earnings growth for U.S. companies this year. We’ll get a bounce back simply because stocks are so oversold. But things are going to be really choppy after that, given the corona virus situation and the increased likelihood of a global recession.

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:59:52am

re: #200 sagehen

Newsom’s ex-wife will throw.a wrench into any national aspirations. She’s DJT-Jr’s girlfriend, and god only knows what kind of crap she’ll spew about him. Some of which might even be true, but it won’t matter if none of it is.

Too true, but maybe she and DJT2 will have broken up by then, as he might have traded her in on a younger model.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:01:27am

re: #209 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Both have very good public personas. But do they have the backroom negotiating and “4 dimensional chess” abilities that seem to be the real key for good Speaker?

That’s a good point. I just look at how Nancy has given high profile responsibilities to. But it will be up to the Dem caucus to choose since they work with these men and women on a daily basis. I honestly found myself as a paralegal impressed by all the impeachment managers.

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lizardofid  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:01:33am

re: #208 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I definitely hope Californians promote him. I saw him interviewed on Kimmel. What I like about him is he’s able to explain seriously the gravity of what’s all going on but also he’s down to earth too. He was talking about how he was visiting his daughter at college in NYC and someone recognized him and she said “Well Dad, it’s your neck.” We need more people with senses of humor in national politics. Hence why I really liked that Colbert-Warren appearance.

I came out of the impeachment trial in the Senate sure of at least one thing. If an argument was to be made for my life before a judge, I would want Adam Schiff as my advocate.

Oh, good morning!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:02:55am

re: #213 lizardofid

I came out of the impeachment trial in the Senate sure of at least one thing. If an argument was to be made for my life before a judge, I would want Adam Schiff as my advocate.

Oh, good morning!

Yeah I was very impressed by him too. Gotta give credit to his staff too.

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:05:30am

re: #212 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

That’s a good point. I just look at how Nancy has given high profile responsibilities to. But it will be up to the Dem caucus to choose since they work with these men and women on a daily basis. I honestly found myself as a paralegal impressed by all the impeachment managers.

Yeah, why not Zoe Lofgren? She impressed me!

Not sure if Lofgren, Lieu or Schiff would be better managing the House, like Nancy, but one of those as Senator would be just fine. I like DiFi, but maybe she should retire and have Newsom name her temporary successor. She just looks frailer than she did two years ago, naturally. As an Old, I can say that.

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A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:05:38am

re: #189 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Clear and cool around here.

Stop staring, it’s the latest style!
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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:06:29am

re: #213 lizardofid

I came out of the impeachment trial in the Senate sure of at least one thing. If an argument was to be made for my life before a judge, I would want Adam Schiff as my advocate.

Oh, good morning!

Yes, good morning! I wouldn’t mind Adam Schiff as my President!!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:06:38am

re: #210 dirkdigglerjr

The S&P ran up 17 percent since the first of October because everyone had turned bullish. We were overdue for a correction, and the corona virus scare only amplified it.

The Fed and the other international rate managers will step in and cut rates, though some nations already are at or below zero. I heard one money manager ask a great question, though: “How does a rate cut get people to fly on airplanes or re-open schools?”

As for P/E ratios, there will have to be some re-assessments on earnings, particularly after Goldman Sachs came out with a note stating there will be zero earnings growth for U.S. companies this year. We’ll get a bounce back simply because stocks are so oversold. But things are going to be really choppy after that, given the corona virus situation and the increased likelihood of a global recession.

Yep. This is a longer term crisis and a correction was expected. Sort of wait and see how things start to pan out - depth of correction, whether it dips into a global recession, and what the virus situation does to global markets, trade, and production. China is essentially shutting down for at least a few months, and there are good odds that South Korea and Japan will follow shortly.

Rate cuts and talking about a laughable “tax cut” are simply props in any case. And which will do nothing good and only harm if things last to any extent. Key to handling a recession is government spending on public works and other stimuli directly to the economy - not handing more money to the wealthy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:07:55am

re: #215 retired cynic

Yeah, why not Zoe Lofgren? She impressed me!

Not sure if Lofgren, Lieu or Schiff would be better managing the House, like Nancy, but one of those as Senator would be just fine. I like DiFi, but maybe she should retire and have Newsom name her temporary successor. She just looks frailer than she did two years ago, naturally. As an Old, I can say that.

Jeffries is another name I’ll throw out there. It won’t be Hoyer. Everything people claim they dislike about Pelosi is more Steny. Lofgren might be good but I think they might want to go younger which is why Schiff, Jeffries, or someone else might be. I don’t think it will be Lieu. I do see a committee chairmanship in his future though. I loved the way he questioned Pompeo and called out CPAC for the circus it is.

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lizardofid  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:08:29am

re: #214 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I was very impressed by him too. Gotta give credit to his staff too.

It’s almost like they were selected for their qualifications. rather than some shallow declaration of loyalty. : )

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TarHellion  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:08:31am

re: #218 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

We might actually get a for realz Infrastructure Week!

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:10:49am

My Saturday letter from the Southern Poverty Law Center is about 55 years since the Edmund Pettus Bridge earthquake, and where we are now. It contains the horrifying stat that, since the Roberts Court declared Jubilee (as Charlie Pierce says) and said historically discriminatory states no longer have to be pre-cleared by the Justice Department, we have lost c. 1600 voting sites. And one guess where they are.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:18:32am

re: #220 lizardofid

It’s almost like they were selected for their qualifications. rather than some shallow declaration of loyalty. : )

That’s exactly correct. Trump’s cabinet is full of ass kissers. One of my favorite history books and I’m sure some of you have read it too is Doris Kearns Goodwin’s excellent Team of Rivals. Lincoln’s cabinet and generals were far from Lincoln loyalists. The Union falls if Lincoln only cares about having Lincoln people in his cabinet. Unfortuantely, that is how/why we ended up with Andrew Johnson but I don’t think anyone foresaw the assassination or the murder plot as a whole. I keep on thinking about how that plot if it had succeeded fully as Booth intended could have made things even worse.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:20:34am

re: #222 retired cynic

My Saturday letter from the Southern Poverty Law Center is about 55 years since the Edmund Pettus Bridge earthquake, and where we are now. It contains the horrifying stat that, since the Roberts Court declared Jubilee (as Charlie Pierce says) and said historically discriminatory states no longer have to be pre-cleared by the Justice Department, we have lost c. 1600 voting sites. And one guess where they are.

I still remember Roberts’ pity pot about how VRA discriminated against the South. I called him doughface here for that. The fact of the matter is Southern Republicans are the ideological heirs of the Jim Crow Democrats of hte South.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:31:39am

A school in Oregon is closing do to the presumption that one of its employees has the coronavirus: dailykos.com.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:35:42am
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:36:01am

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:36:07am

re: #179 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:37:24am

re: #227 Ace Rothstein

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OFFS. I really dislike Bernie but this is the kind of shit that fuels his supporters conspiracy bullshit.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:39:33am

These are from the two evacuation planes that arrived at Lackland
from Wuhan and Tokyo, and include 9 Diamond Princess passengers. It is not loose in the community.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:40:16am

Coronavirus is certainly wreaking havoc in Iran — now 43 deaths among 593 reported cases., with high government officials also infected. They need to get experts from WHO to help them out, but it does demonstrate what happens when a country fails to adopt any public measures to stop the spread of the disease — measures they are apparently now finally implementing.

OT: Sigh — hey Anymouse — hope you will be returning to us soon.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:43:50am

re: #192 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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can’t happen soon enough. Everyone save this so we’ll have it when that joyous day comes.

I shed tears for the poor innocent cancer cells that have to be contaminated by Limbaugh’s body!

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jaunte  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:48:22am

Fox News is determined to kill people to defend Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 8:56:47am

re: #233 jaunte

Fox News is determined to kill people to defend Trump.

I’ll preface this. I have always been reluctant to compare modern events to the Nazis but FNC acts like what we saw out of the Third Reich propaganda machine.

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Interesting Times  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:03:19am

Why, why, WHY can’t Bloomberg/Steyer do something useful like this to stroke their egos instead??

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:05:13am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Candidates for Darwin award, or rather Lysenko award

Three people have died after dry ice was poured into a swimming pool at a party in Moscow on Friday.

(Fuck this keyboard with a gnarly pine branch.)
The masterminds tossed 30 kg of dry ice into the pool to cool it off.
Victims apparently suffocated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:08:37am

re: #236 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Bad link.

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They tossed 30 kg of dry ice into the pool to cool it off after complaints the water was too warm.
Victims apparently suffocated.

bbc.com

Ms Didenko is known for posting tips about how to save money on pharmaceutical products on her Instagram page. She has a million followers.

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:17:46am

re: #235 Interesting Times

Why, why, WHY can’t Bloomberg/Steyer do something useful like this to stroke their egos instead??

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And I restate. Fuck Twitter/Fuck Facebook

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:18:05am

re: #235 Interesting Times

Why, why, WHY can’t Bloomberg/Steyer do something useful like this to stroke their egos instead??

And Bloomberg we know is savvy at media.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:19:26am

re: #238 Eventual Carrion

And I restate. Fuck Twitter/Fuck Facebook

Social media becoming an extension of actual journalism has been such a disappointment. I’ve been involved in social media since I was a middle school- going back to AOL Instant Messager. It’s helped me communicate better as someone who communicates much better through writing than speaking but I hate what it’s done to the state of journalism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:22:56am

re: #240 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Social media becoming an extension of actual journalism has been such a disappointment.

Social media is for finding out where your friends and family are hanging or local events. Not as a source of news and information about world events.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:23:39am

What do you all make of Trump’s Taliban deal? I fear it’s going to create a crisis. It’s granted been a while since I read about the Taliban but I vividly remember an Afghan classmate who was Hasara (most Afghans including the Taliban themselves are Pashtun) telling me of the persecution the Taliban did to him and his friends/neighbors. We took 12th grade government together and I still think about it because even though I was a dove in regards to Afghanistan after 9/11, I still deeply thought about how a guy I knew, around my age was impacted by the Taliban and in a way I was not. Really made me think.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:24:47am

re: #242 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:26:01am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Social media is for finding out where your friends and family are hanging or local events. Not as a source of news and information about world events.

It has other uses too I’d say. Great for music and movies in both discussion and promotion. But for journalism, it’s awful. I’ve worked for a newspaper before. Granted it was my college one but I definitely think it is prudent to be accurate as possible. Social media’s merger with journalism gave us the clickbait and we all for it but it’s terrible when it comes to political journalism.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:28:45am

re: #243 Ace Rothstein

I really hope peace can come but I’m worried like hell for the Afghani people especially the religious minorities, women, and others. Watch Russia, Iran, India, and Pakistan in the aftermath of this if it happens. Those two are IMO the most important countries to understanding Afghanistan’s geopolitical importance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:30:34am

re: #244 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It has other uses too I’d say. Great for music and movies in both discussion and promotion. But for journalism, it’s awful.

I recall seeing an article on my ex-GF’s FB feed: “Great Barrier Reef Declared Dead”. Even a cursory reading of the article indicated that although the GBR had sustained serious damage, it was still quite alive. That annoyed me to no end.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:33:09am

re: #246 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall seeing an article on my ex-GF’s FB feed: “Great Barrier Reef Declared Dead”. Even a cursory reading of the article indicated that although the GBR had sustained serious damage, it was still quite alive. That annoyed me to no end.

I probably catch easily a few times a week someone posting an article of something already happened or something that can be debunked. Everyone thinks they’re their own personal William Randolph Hearst these days. I don’t blame people who are skeptical of the media. What I do blame people who are skeptical of media who trust people who have given no reason to be trustworthy in both motive and information. Wikileaks is a great example of that.

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mmmirele  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:36:27am

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

Apparently it’s in the prisons, and a detained British-Iranian woman says she has it. (Her detention is already a diplomatic issue.)

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe, the British-Iranian woman detained in Iran, is suspected of having coronavirus, her family have said.

The Free Nazanin Campaign said despite reports of at least one coronavirus-related inmate death inside Tehran’s Evin prison, staff are refusing to test her.

In a statement issued via the Free Nazanin Campaign, Zaghari-Ratcliffe said: “I am not good. I feel very bad in fact. It is a strange cold. Not like usual. I know the kinds of cold I normally have, how my body reacts. This is different. I am just as bad as I was. I often get better after three days. But with this there is no improvement. I haven’t got one bit better.

The prison is refusing to test her for coronavirus.

theguardian.com

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:44:45am
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:49:01am

Dear Leader is having yet another press conference pertaining to the hoax virus today at 1:30 EST.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:50:54am

re: #249 retired cynic

A rule in the fine print could give Bernie a yuuuge smile on Super Tuesday, WaPo. Not encouraging!

And there’s not much we can do about it, unless candidates and voters decide that today means they should narrow down their choices.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:52:25am

OT I just got my forms from my accountant. I am getting refunds from both the feds and the state. It is a little smaller than previous years. I am going to send it back and have him electronically file both. I am also paying him earlier than previous years. Hopefully I will see my money soon. :)

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:52:37am

Super Tuesday needed to happen at the end of March or early April to give the field more of a chance of thinning out.

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lizardofid  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:52:43am

re: #250 Ace Rothstein

Dear Leader is having yet another press conference pertaining to the virus today at 1:30 EST.

Fortunately the markets are closed today.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:52:51am

re: #250 Ace Rothstein

Dear Leader is having yet another press conference pertaining to the virus today at 1:30 EST.

Probably to brag about his peace deal (not a peace deal) too

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:53:05am

China isn’t holding itself just to fighting Covid 19.

China compels Uighurs to work in shoe factory that supplies Nike, WaPo.

It sounds a lot like forced labor and forced “re-education” to me. Awful. And these may be the “lucky” ones.

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jaunte  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:54:09am

re: #250 Ace Rothstein

Dear Leader is having yet another press conference pertaining to the hoax virus today at 1:30 EST.

Free broadcast advertising for his reelection campaign.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:56:14am

re: #256 retired cynic

China isn’t holding itself just to fighting Covid 19.

China compels Uighurs to work in shoe factory that supplies Nike, WaPo.

It sounds a lot like forced labor and forced “re-education” to me. Awful. And these may be the “lucky” ones.

I think I read somewhere that more people live under dictatorships than democracies now than at the end of the Cold War.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 9:56:43am

re: #257 jaunte

Free broadcast advertising for his reelection campaign.

Also free advertising for his opponents’ ads.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:01:40am

I think the orange dumbfuck has seen some internal polling that shows that his approval has sunk the last week. I’d add that he’s probably going to “clarify” his hoax comments from last night’s cross burning. This guy could fuck up a cup of coffee.

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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:02:11am

In regard to Ratcliffe being nominated as DNI, “In the intricacies of vacancy law, some saw a White House strategy. Ratcliffe is not a popular pick, but if the Senate rejects him, lawmakers will have to contend with Grenell, who as the acting director is harder to check and oversee, current and former officials said. Trump could be trying to call the Senate’s bluff, they said.” WaPo quote

Disgusting and disturbing.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:05:00am

re: #261 retired cynic

In regard to Ratcliffe being nominated as DNI, “In the intricacies of vacancy law, some saw a White House strategy. Ratcliffe is not a popular pick, but if the Senate rejects him, lawmakers will have to contend with Grenell, who as the acting director is harder to check and oversee, current and former officials said. Trump could be trying to call the Senate’s bluff, they said.” WaPo quote

Disgusting and disturbing.

This is Barr’s knowledge of the system at work.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:06:26am

BTW gaming the system is exactly what the non NSDAP right wing enablers of a certain Herr Hitler did.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:07:58am

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:10:21am

This is mainly bad because it removes a bargaining chip for the Afghan government in the ‘reunification’ talks that the US has committed them to with the Taliban

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:12:02am

re: #265 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

This is mainly bad because it removes a bargaining chip for the Afghan government in the ‘reunification’ talks that the US has committed them to with the Taliban

And you know there’s a Trump tweet for that.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:15:52am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:17:16am

re: #267 goddamnedfrank

He’ll call it a hoax again.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:18:07am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:18:55am

Trump’s going to blame Governor Inslee and the fact that climate change is a big part of his agenda. Bank on it.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:20:57am

What’s even worse about Trump’s upcoming dumpster fire is that he’s going to have another cross burning at CPAC thirty minutes after it.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:21:24am

Probably the reason for the press conference.

Trump: IT’S A HOAX!!!
Crowd: *Cheer*
Aid: Well, sir, we’ve had one death from it.
Trump: If he dies on 5th avenue, I’ve got nothing to worry about.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:23:41am

Everyone here knows that by next Tuesday, everything is going to start leaking out. Trump is fucked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:28:24am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:29:14am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Welp.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:29:34am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump needed the deal more than the Taliban.

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jaunte  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:30:24am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:31:54am
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VegasGolfer  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:32:56am

Wow, the lengths people will go to perpetuate a “Dem” hoax

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:34:12am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:34:14am

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Giving the Taliban the keys to the counter-terrorist effort is a big fucking deal. They’re going to use that to go after their enemies. Too many Americans see Afghanistan and just assume “Oh they’re a bunch of Muslims, all will be fine there if we just leave.” The isolationism that has been the response to neo-conservatism that preceded it is dangerous.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:35:14am

Trump has called so many things a hoax that I think it’s made it a word that lost meaning to the average person. It’s very Orwellean.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:36:34am

Someone had time today

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:37:28am

re: #282 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Trump has called so many things a hoax that I think it’s made it a word that lost meaning to the average person. It’s very Orwellean.

a “hoax” is anything that makes him look bad

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:37:53am

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

Someone had time today

We sold out a lot of people to distract from Trump calling Corona a hoax. And it’s going to piss Trump off that it’s not going to work. But he’s just going to become more unhinged.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:38:41am

re: #283 goddamnedfrank

Except we never agreed to a deal that excluded the Afghan Govt, subcontracted our counter-terrorism efforts to the Taliban, released 5k Taliban prisoners in exchange for 7 days of reduced violence, and sold out Afghan women. A Republican named Trump did.

Bolton is jut trying to keep his conservative creds while also risking outright criticism of Trump - true brinkmanship

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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:38:57am

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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John Bolton can just sit down and shut up.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:39:02am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a “hoax” is anything that makes him look bad

Yes, I know what a Trump hoax is. I also know what an actual hoax is. The political hoaxes have all actually been committed or attempted to by Trump. Rule by conspiracy theories is dangerous.

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Skip Intro  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:39:07am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t that the storyline from this year’s Homeland? Damn!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:39:12am

Hey, has anyone seen any reporting on how and when the individual who died in Washington contracted the COVID-19 virus?

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:39:38am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a “hoax” is anything that makes him look bad

The coronavirus is obviously a Democrat because it refuses to bow to the awesomeness that is is Trump.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:40:08am

JFC, fucking idiots.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:40:25am
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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:40:57am

re: #290 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Hey, has anyone seen any reporting on how and when the individual who died in Washington contracted the COVID-19 virus?

I think they’re having a news conference about the death at 1:00 PST

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:42:05am

re: #292 Ace Rothstein

JFC, fucking idiots.

Ah. Washington state. Known for its close proximity to Mexico.

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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:42:33am

re: #295 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Ah. Washington state. Known for its close proximity to Mexico.

Blame Canada.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:43:03am

re: #294 calochortus

I think they’re having a news conference about the death at 1:00 PST

Probably definitely want to get the facts together. I definitely trust Inslee’s Washington government than Trump’s to give a proper response on this. I just hope it doesn’t make people panic and I really worry whatever Trump’s about to won’t help.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:43:31am

I hope the Democrats are paying attention to all of this, because the commercials write themselves. The only thing left is a video of Trump playing golf while Americans are dying in hospitals.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:43:53am

re: #296 calochortus

Blame Canada.

Now I’ve got that song stuck in my head.

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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:44:23am

re: #299 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Now I’ve got that song stuck in my head.

You’re welcome!

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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:46:19am

Hmmm, I thought there was a Trump statement on coronavirus 15 minutes ago. Nice to know he doesn’t worry about punctuality on issues of national health.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:46:42am

Well, I guess those 15 people with the virus that was about to get close to zero was all bullshit.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:47:16am
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:47:55am

re: #301 calochortus

I was just thinking the same thing. I was thinking that Tricky Micky could have gotten through that thick orange skull full of emptiness that being late on an issue such as this is not a good look.

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Semper Fi  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:49:05am

Hmm, wonder what time the President will start his 1:30pm news conference?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:49:34am

He’s going to scapegoat Hispanics for this too isn’t he? Look at the fact that Miller’s wife has a role on Pence’s team.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:50:19am

20 minutes late for a press conference about the health of the nation is not a good look.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:51:09am

He’s delaying it as long as possible so he can get over to CPAC at 3:00.

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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:51:21am

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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:52:02am

Wow, he sounds exhausted. Not a confidence builder.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:52:55am
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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:53:25am

re: #309 calochortus

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:54:22am
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:54:56am

I refuse to watch his bullshit. Is this an actual press conference or a statement?

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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:55:58am

re: #314 Ace Rothstein

I refuse to watch his bullshit. Is this an actual press conference or a statement?

No one knows.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:56:07am

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:56:09am

re: #314 Ace Rothstein

Right now I am watching my videos. Watching DT destroys grey matter. :)

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:56:20am

re: #298 Ace Rothstein

I hope the Democrats are paying attention to all of this, because the commercials write themselves. The only thing left is a video of Trump playing golf while Americans are dying in hospitals.

As I tried to articulate yesterday, just try to imagine a commercial that just runs like this:

Blank screen.

A tiny red dot appears and a date in early January 2020, newscaster audio announcing the newly discovered coronavirus in China starts to play.

The tiny white dot slowly starts becoming thin line as the date advances and more footage plays. As the date advances and the visible timeline grows we see and hear about the first death, China’s horrid early response, censoring the doctor who discovered it, that doctor’s death from COVID-19 …

Then, after a little bit we start to see Trump’s statements interspersed with more footage of COVID-19 spreading. So back to back to back we see his fucking Baghdad Bobesque denials, mental inadequacies, and venial concerns over how the economy reflects on him contrasted with footage announcing more, and more, and more death.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:58:12am

re: #316 Joe Bacon 🌹

he is obviously not comfortable with all those black people touching him

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:58:15am

re: #318 goddamnedfrank

And as the commercial comes to a close, we see a slo-mo of Trump driving his golf cart onto the green waving with that pig smile on his face. Fade to black…

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Dave In Austin  Feb 29, 2020 • 10:58:41am
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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:00:05am

Even Freepers are noticing Trump looks and sounds tired. (I’m listening on the radio and have no idea what he looks like, but he doesn’t sound well.)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:01:02am

re: #322 calochortus

Even Freepers are noticing Trump looks and sounds tired. (I’m listening on the radio and have no idea what he looks like, but he doesn’t sound well.)

If you’re losing Freeperville, you might just be losing middle Wingnuttia. But then again, nothing makes sense anymore.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:01:20am

re: #322 calochortus

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Semper Fi  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:01:28am

re: #309 calochortus

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:01:35am

re: #322 calochortus

Even Freepers are noticing Trump looks and sounds tired. (I’m listening on the radio and have no idea what he looks like, but he doesn’t sound well.)

the stress is building and he is not going to take anybody’s advice on how to avoid a collapse…

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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:01:57am

re: #324 Ace Rothstein

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Ummm, thanks, I think.

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jaunte  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:02:24am
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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:04:00am

re: #325 Semper Fi

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:04:02am

I could only listen to about 5 seconds. That’s a personal best. Do I get a prize?

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:04:24am

re: #330 I Would Prefer Not To

No.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:04:53am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:05:35am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:05:57am

re: #332 Dread Pirate

I wish something would zap in his fat orange ass everytime he says the word hoax.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:06:14am
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:06:22am

I thought we were getting close to zero cases!!!!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:07:07am

re: #336 Ace Rothstein

I thought we were getting close to zero cases!!!!

He’s a medically high risk.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:08:14am

The death in Washington is reported to be a 19-year-old man! (Not confirmed, Washington authorities press conference at 3:00 PST)

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:08:24am

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

If this grows and turns into a major problem, health care officials will burn through those in less than a month.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:08:25am

re: #328 jaunte

Trump said if you are “healthy” you should be fine. This coming from the man who not only hasn’t gotten his annual presidential physical, but was rushed to the emergency room at the end of last year and lied about why.

If we were all healthy we would not need health care or a health care system in the first place, so it must be our own fault for leading a dissolute lifestyle…

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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:09:02am

We have 43 million masks? And roughly how many health care workers are there? And how many do they use daily? Never mind all the people who don’t need them who are buying them up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:09:21am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:09:27am

Sad that we have come to this, but I’m beginning to think (Hope) that this is trump’s Waterloo. So it goes.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:09:40am

43 Million sounds like a big number but there are about 8 times that many people in the US.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:09:46am

Looks like 2PM ET broadcast time

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:10:20am

re: #338 Ace Rothstein

The death in Washington is reported to be a 19-year-old man! (Not confirmed, Washington authorities press conference at 3:00 PST)

If that’s the case, this could be even worse than I thought.

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calochortus  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:10:39am

re: #338 Ace Rothstein

The death in Washington is reported to be a 19-year-old man! (Not confirmed, Washington authorities press conference at 3:00 PST)

Or a 51 year old woman with health problems. The patient is being referred to as “she” by folks at the news conference.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:11:38am

Trump is easily over 300 pounds now. He looks like a bloated corpse.

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garzooma  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:12:13am

re: #344 Belafon

43 Million sounds like a big number but there are about 8 times that many people in the US.

Also, the masks aren’t reusable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:12:43am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:13:22am
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:13:30am

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Super calming to hear that we have enough masks to cover on out of eight Americans.

We’ll be good

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Teddy's Person  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:14:17am

From local Seattle news:

KING COUNTY, Wash. — A man in King County has died from the coronavirus, the Washington state Department of Health said Saturday in a media advisory.

No other details were given about the death as of Saturday morning.

Officials plan to hold a press conference at 1 p.m. with more details. KOMO will livestream the press conference.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:14:30am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The average American does not need to go out and buy a mask.”

I am not for sale: Mask is my last name.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:15:02am

re: #353 Teddy’s Person

JFC, this idiot can’t even get the gender of the deceased correct.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:15:12am

O_o

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:15:39am

re: #352 goddamnedfrank

Super calming to hear that we have enough masks to cover on out of eight Americans.

We’ll be good

Are there youtube videos on how to make them? //

Edited for snarkiness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:15:58am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:16:25am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:16:30am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

Unprecedented? Yeah but not for the reason shithead thinks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:16:47am

from yesterday:

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Teddy's Person  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:17:44am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Looks like spackling job was a bit rushed today.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:17:58am

re: #357 Belafon

Are there youtube videos on how to make them?

Not worth it, an effective mask for viruses has to fit extremely well and use a specific type of filter. Once symptomatic just use a paper mask to reduce spread.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:18:53am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

from yesterday:

Inslee’s presidential run got one and doned prettty quickly but he was probably the most science intelligent candidate running.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:19:11am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:19:15am
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:20:39am

How do you confuse a 19-year-old man with a woman in her late-50’s?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:20:46am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:20:57am

re: #326 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the stress is building and he is not going to take anybody’s advice on how to avoid a collapse…

Every morning when I wake up here in Europe, I fully expect to read a headline saying, “President Trump rushed to hospital after suffering debilitating stroke” or something to that effect.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:21:19am

re: #369 Dr Lizardo

Won’t be long.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:21:40am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:22:29am

Just want to point out the 19 year old may have had a respiratory condition or be immunocompromised.

Not common at that age but certainly not unheard of.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:22:36am
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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:23:08am

re: #363 goddamnedfrank

Not worth it, an effective mask for viruses has to fit extremely well and use a specific type of filter. Once symptomatic just use a paper mask to reduce spread.

Thanks. I forgot to add //.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:23:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:24:49am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:25:27am

re: #375 Charles Johnson

Trump is now facing a real, honest-to-goodness crisis.

He’s gonna fold faster than one of his cheap-ass suits.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:25:32am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’re not smart enough to create it, Trump. But, you’re dumb enough to dismantle our effort at preparing and responding to it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:28:22am

re: #365 Ace Rothstein

Washington state says it’s a 19-year-old male who died from #coronavirus.
[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) February 29, 2020

deleted

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Charles Johnson  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:29:55am
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:30:17am

re: #365 Ace Rothstein

re: #379 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Make a screen shot quick.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:30:39am

Instead of listening to trump’s circle jerk I donated 100 bucks to the warren campaign. If she survives super T I will continue to do so or switch to Biden.

Now, I’ve earned my nap. Latter, lizards

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:31:48am

He’s been fucking lucky to nearly get done an entire term WITHOUT a crisis.

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plansbandc  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:32:41am

re: #330 I Would Prefer Not To

You have me beat by 5 seconds.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:32:50am

Oh dear, I just got retweeted by Giant Military Cats
My mentions are about to blow up

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:34:15am

For those wanting more background on the virus, WHO has released the study they did with Chinese officials on the early onset of the pandemic.

Contrary to the conspiracy minded:

Zoonotic origins
COVID-19 is a zoonotic virus. From phylogenetics analyses undertaken with available full genome sequences, bats appear to be the reservoir of COVID-19 virus, but the intermediate host(s) has not yet been identified. However, three important areas of work are already underway in China to inform our understanding of the zoonotic origin of this outbreak.

These include early investigations of cases with symptom onset in Wuhan throughout December 2019, environmental sampling from the Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market and other area markets, and the collection of detailed records on the source and type of wildlife species sold at the Huanan market and the destination of those animals after the market was closed.

Also this tidbit on how many close contacts get infected:

As of 17 February, in Shenzhen City, among 2842 identified close contacts, 2842 (100%) were traced and 2240 (72%) have completed medical observation. Among the close contacts, 88 (2.8%) were found to be infected with COVID-19.

As of 17 February, in Sichuan Province, among 25493 identified close contacts, 25347 (99%) were traced and 23178 (91%) have completed medical observation. Among the close contacts, 0.9% were found to be infected with COVID-19.

• As of 20 February, in Guangdong Province, among 9939 identified close contacts, 9939 (100%) were traced and 7765 (78%) have completed medical observation. Among the close contacts, 479 (4.8%) were found to be infected with COVID-19.

So it appears the infection rate among close contacts runs from .9% to 4.8%.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:34:19am
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PhillyPretzel  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:36:32am

re: #386 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That is valuable information and I have saved it. Thanks.

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plansbandc  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:36:44am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

Holy shit. He’s Witchy Poo’s older, fatter, and uglier brother.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:38:23am

re: #387 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Guess what, Donny, that means closing borders is useless.

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gwangung  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:39:52am

re: #379 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

kirklandreporter.com has a story.

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jaunte  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:45:51am

Net net, if you don’t recover, you weren’t healthy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:46:36am
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retired cynic  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:47:18am

Charlie Pierce’s Saturday essay says that the Democratic candidates are not operating in reality. The structure of the Senate will stop most really progressive activity. Even if Dems take it.

Lawrence O’Donnell of MSNBC is one of the few people dealing regularly in the most obvious truth of the 2020 Democratic presidential primary process. It is a spirited campaign and an entertaining one and somebody will win it one day and, if God is in his heaven and Billy’s down by the bay, that candidate will become president in January of 2021. And, one day later, that poor unfortunate soul will discover that his or her feet are completely encased in concrete. No matter how well prepared this person is, they will be shocked by how thoroughly their feet will be encased in concrete. Look, the person will say to their chief of staff, or their spouse, or the White House maintenance staff, my feet are thoroughly encased in concrete, so thoroughly encased in concrete that I can’t seem to get anything done here in this lovely office. Somebody get me a jackhammer.
Unfortunately, using a jackhammer on the actual problem likely would be an impeachable offense because the actual problem is the structure of the United States Senate. Using a jackhammer on, say, Mitch McConnell, while undeniably satisfying as a speculative exercise, likely would get you tossed into the federal sneezer for a spell.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:48:38am

Fire season came early this year.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:49:16am

re: #394 retired cynic

Charlie Pierce’s Saturday essay says that the Democratic candidates are not operating in reality. The structure of the Senate will stop most really progressive activity. Even if Dems take it.

Need someone who has experience with Congress. I’ll take the career legislator.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 11:57:21am

re: #394 retired cynic

Charlie Pierce’s Saturday essay says that the Democratic candidates are not operating in reality. The structure of the Senate will stop most really progressive activity. Even if Dems take it.

Which is why Warren is arguing for an end to the filibuster. Because with the current GOP members, there is nothing that is going to get done with them having any kind of power.

I understand the argument that the filibuster prevents bad legislation from getting through, but I think it also lets people off the hook: They vote for people who will destroy their Medicare and Social Security because they know Democrats won’t let it happen. Well, maybe they need to start having to consider this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:00:49pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:03:07pm

re: #397 Belafon

However, what is on ballot is not the Senate filibuster, but the candidate for office of the President.

We’re stuck with the US Senate until the US really breaks.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:04:54pm

re: #399 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

However, what is on ballot is not the Senate filibuster, but the candidate for office of the President.

We’re stuck with the US Senate until the US really breaks.

Who’s in charge of the Senate could change this fall.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:07:55pm

re: #400 Belafon

Who’s in charge of the Senate could change this fall.

Hopefully. But the Democrats can only reasonable expect a handful of Senate seats to flip. Enough to be the majority - yes. But not enough to get rid of the filibuster. And it’s not clear to me that enough Democrats will want to get rid of the filibuster.

The filibuster was used, for example, recently to stop the anti-abortion nuts.

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:08:44pm

I would hope we’re going to be putting the entire Congress on referendum this fall. It’s not just the presidency that is causing this mess.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:08:59pm

re: #345 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

In a countdown hold, probably will be rescheduled

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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:09:48pm

re: #401 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Hopefully. But the Democrats can only reasonable expect a handful of Senate seats to flip. Enough to be the majority - yes. But not enough to get rid of the filibuster. And it’s not clear to me that enough Democrats will want to get rid of the filibuster.

The filibuster was used, for example, recently to stop the anti-abortion nuts.

I understand. And that’s my argument. You don’t like the crap the GOP is proposing. Stop voting for them and hoping the Democrats will stop it.

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Dread Pirate  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:10:47pm
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Belafon  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:11:57pm

Without Congress, here’s some other things that can’t be done:
1. Fixing the places Trump has torn up with his border.
2. Providing care for those kids we’ve kept in cages.
3. Reforming the Border Patrol and ICE.
4. Expanding the courts.
5. Investigating all of the corrupt people Trump has installed.

It’s not just the immediate promices that we won’t be able to keep.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:21:14pm

re: #403 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

In a countdown hold, probably will be rescheduled

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Feb 29, 2020 • 12:37:05pm

re: #407 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Whoops, looks like I was wrong. They’ve gone live

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Nope, scrubbed in the end

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 29, 2020 • 7:46:45pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This hoax is getting fishy.


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