Under Fire for Inappropriate Comments to Women, Chris Matthews Abruptly Retires From MSNBC’s “Hardball”

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This is a bit of a surprise. After 20 years hosting “Hardball,” Chris Matthews has suddenly retired tonight, and his statement makes it pretty clear it wasn’t voluntary.

Mixed feelings over here, because even though I often agreed with Matthews, he could also be totally off the wall — for one example, lavishing praise on Republican Nikki Haley.

But now I’m thinking maybe that was connected to his reason for retiring.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:25:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:26:25pm
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qubit2020  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:26:55pm

It was time. I, too, have mixed feelings.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:27:53pm
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Chrysicat  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:30:55pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:32:46pm

re: #5 Chrysicat

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Please don’t ruin my good name, Lonnie.

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Mattand  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:34:04pm

No mixed feelings here. Good fucking riddance.

One down, one to go *coughCHUCKTODDcough*

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Dave In Austin  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:35:44pm

re: #7 Mattand

No mixed feelings here. Good fucking riddance.

One down, one to go *coughCHUCKTODDcough*

You’ll be waiting, he runs the dept.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:36:36pm

re: #7 Mattand

No mixed feelings here. Good fucking riddance.

One down, one to go *coughCHUCKTODDcough*

Yeah, I’m pretty much on the good riddance side, too. But don’t put it past MSNBC to replace him with someone much worse.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:37:30pm

Karma finally caught up to Tweety.

Oh I remember how Tweety was one of the Four Horsemen leading the charge for Bill Clinton’s impeachment and removal along with Michael Kelly, Maureen Dowd and Tim Russert.

Tweety sure cheered on the Iraq war and I will never forget how he and Gordon Liddy just slobbered over seeing Dumbya climbing out of the jet with a sock in his jock.

Good riddance, Tweety!

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Dave In Austin  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:38:28pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

I’d like to see Nichole Wallace moved up the ladder.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:38:57pm

I just got this thrill up my leg.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:39:10pm

OT I just got a call from a Washington DC number. They left no message and of course I blocked them. I looked up the number and found it was marked as fraud/spam activity. I thought these people are not supposed to call anyone after 8 pm.

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Belafon  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:40:13pm

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

OT I just got a call from a Washington DC number. They left no message and of course I blocked them. I looked up the number and found it was marked as fraud/spam activity. I thought these people are not supposed to call anyone after 8 pm.

It’s normally nine.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:41:30pm

re: #14 Belafon

Ahh. I see. They are trying to get me before I nod off.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:42:46pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:43:35pm

re: #16 Dread Pirate

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Who the fuck is bankrolling this shit?

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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:44:05pm

Question for any New Yorker lizards:
I’m flying to NJ/NY next week (heading from JFK to LA on the 20th), and am currently looking into hotels/apartments in NY for a few days of my time in NY. Haven’t been in the city in the better part of a decade and have heard conflicting things about hostility between the state of New York and AirBnb, and that some law was passed to prevent the use of the service.
The question: in your experience, is it OK to actually book a stay in NY through AirBnb (basically, is it the same as most cities around the world or a bad idea since that law was passed)?
Edit: Also while I’m at it, are there any particular areas that you think I should avoid?

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Belafon  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:44:47pm

re: #16 Dread Pirate

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Now I can be happy my monthly e-subscription to the WaPo can be used to do discovery on his communication.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:44:58pm

re: #11 Dave In Austin

I’d like to see Nichole Wallace moved up the ladder.

Sarah Palin’s handler? No thanks.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:45:31pm

My wife opened a statement from Citibank. Included was a note written in eighteen languages saying in the future they will only send statements in English.

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Belafon  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:46:17pm
The Roman Catholic Church has agreed to partner with IBM and Microsoft to develop an ethical approach for designing artificial intelligence (AI), with Pope Francis’ support. The Rome Call for Ethics asks that AI be designed to benefit the environment and “our common and shared home and of its human inhabitants.” Microsoft president Brad Smith said agreeing on a universal ethical AI model may be impossible because no one has ever agreed on an ethical framework to govern their lives. IBM’s John Kelly said AI would soon affect all occupations, and the best scenario is for humans to work alongside machines. Said Kelly, “AI is so close to human behavior and interaction [that] this is really important to get right, so we are really proud to team up with the Catholic Church to get this one right.”

orange.hosting.lsoft.com;

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:47:55pm

re: #22 Belafon

orange.hosting.lsoft.com;

So when Skynet takes over, it’ll be wearing an outrageously large hat?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:48:12pm

re: #18 Disloyal Archangel

Question for any New Yorker lizards:
I’m flying to NJ/NY next week (heading from JFK to LA on the 20th), and am currently looking into hotels/apartments in NY for a few days of my time in NY. Haven’t been in the city in the better part of a decade and have heard conflicting things about hostility between the state of New York and AirBnb, and that some law was passed to prevent the use of the service.
The question: in your experience, is it OK to actually book a stay in NY through AirBnb (basically, is it the same as most cities around the world or a bad idea since that law was passed)?

I’ve stayed in several AirBNBs in Brooklyn and had no problems. Not sure about the law. I think they were going after landlords who rather rent via airBNB then real tenants. If the place has good ratings on airbnb go for it. Hotels in NY are monopolies that cater to the rich.

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William Lewis  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:49:04pm

re: #22 Belafon

orange.hosting.lsoft.com;

They’ll apply that universal truth: Tweet others as you’d be tweeted…

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Chrysicat  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:49:08pm

re: #22 Belafon

orange.hosting.lsoft.com;

I’m sorry, but if there’s one organisation that shouldn’t be involved in the standards for “ethical AI”, it’s the Roman Catholic Church.

Well, no, check that; if there’s one, it’s the Southern Baptist Convention, but I still don’t want to see the Pope allowed to determine what kinds of robots and intelligent computers are allowed in the future.

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Mattand  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:49:27pm

re: #8 Dave In Austin

You’ll be waiting, he runs the dept.

I know. That’s why it always kills me when Maddow runs on about Chuck’s sharp political insights. He’s the pundit equivalent of the kid in elementary school who’s off in the corner eating paste. She has to be aware of that, him being her boss regardless.

The guy always sounds like he’s trying to audition as Colmes’s replacement for Hannity.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:50:01pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:51:23pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:52:37pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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Thanks for the nightmares.

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jaunte  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:52:45pm

Hardball Of The Walking Dead

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:52:57pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

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If they bring back Luke Russert…or Michael Savage…

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Dread Pirate  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:53:06pm
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Mattand  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:53:21pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Yeah, I’m pretty much on the good riddance side, too. But don’t put it past MSNBC to replace him with someone much worse.

That’s why it always kills me when I hear people say MSNBC is merely the flip side of Fox.

You cannot even find the remote equivalent of a left-leaning Joe Scarborough or Nicole Wallace* on that channel.

Didn’t MSNBC hire Hugh Hewitt as a guest pundit for a while?

*I honestly don’t know what Wallace is like on her show, but she was a fucking loyalist for the Bush administration. Fucking “both sides” hire.

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gocart mozart  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:53:22pm
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Belafon  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:53:58pm
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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:54:25pm

re: #22 Belafon

orange.hosting.lsoft.com;

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:54:43pm

re: #31 jaunte

Hardball Of The Walking Dead

Goes on despite falling ratings and social relevance, drawing regular looks of surprise that it’s still on the air?

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jaunte  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:55:04pm

re: #36 Belafon

There’s that ‘nothing matters but the horserace’ attitude.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:56:04pm

re: #32 Joe Bacon 🌹

If they bring back Luke Russert…or Michael Savage…

Shep Smith, is my guess. He only looks sane because he was only one who was not a drooling sycophant on FoxNews.

It is going to be Megyn Kelly Part 2.

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Belafon  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:56:34pm

re: #36 Belafon

There are some good replies as well:

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:57:09pm

From the previous thread:

re: #223 KGxvi

I voted for Warren over the weekend. First time I’d ever done early voting and first time I ever voted in a Democratic primary. I suspect both she and Biden will be viable in California now that Pete and Amy have dropped out. But who really knows. It’s been a strange early campaign out here.

I’ve seen few ads, other than Steyer and Bloomberg - there’s a Warren PAC that’s been running ads in the last few days - and not really seen any yard signs or other such “indicators” of support either. Haven’t even really got many mailers (maybe that’s because I’m registered as an independent?).

We’ve gotten several mailers her from the Warren and Steyer campaigns, along with several from Trump, though we don’t have early voting in Nebraska (other than absentee ballots). None of the other candidates are paying attention to us yet (possibly because our primary is in May).

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Mattand  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:57:55pm

Hardball with Bill Maher! Where we look at both sides of the issue, and then blame liberals for refusing to be “moderate” by imitating Republicans!

Only on MSNBC!

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Mar 2, 2020 • 5:59:44pm

re: #44 Mattand

Hardball with Bill Maher! Where we look at both sides of the issue, and then blame liberals for refusing to be “moderate” by imitating Republicans!

Only on MSNBC!

Great idea! Michael Moore can fill in for him on his days off.

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EPR-radar  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:01:47pm

re: #35 gocart mozart

This from AOC is very, very good — “The only time religious freedom is invoked is in the name of bigotry and discrimination. I’m tired of it”.

That is so fucking true, and I am so damn tired of so many non-Republican enablers of this set of Republican lies.

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Mattand  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:02:56pm

re: #45 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Great idea! Michael Moore can fill in for him on his days off.

I’m under the impression Moore is in Camp “Trump is Obama’s Fault.” Am I wrong on that? Another site I read is going full Bernie Bro, and that’s a major theme there.

Those folks there were already “There’s no difference between Trump, Obama, W, and Stalin.” I may be unfairly projecting that on Moore.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:04:10pm

So, Hillary has to testify to some utter fucking horseshit brought by a bunch of birthers, but Trumporrhoids can just ignore all subpoenas. JFC.

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EPR-radar  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:04:12pm

re: #36 Belafon

Interesting. Much US political reporting could be explained by too many reporters distancing themselves so thoroughly from politics and its real implications.

The same kind of ‘distancing’ could have been done for Nazi Germany, of course.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:05:34pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:05:46pm

Many progressives may not like a Biden/Buttigieg ticket, but the more I think about what has to happen in this country and in November is that we need, desperately need, a younger face in front of the masses.

Buttigieg gets a bad rap for being insensitive to the needs of African Americans. Well, that is so, at least to some extent, I guess, but I wonder how much puffery the Sanders campaign put into attacking Buttigieg (note how the Berners hated Harris too.)

While I think pragmatically for the sake of governance and representation that Castro is a better pick for VP, Julian does not come off as strong on TV or the campaign trial that Buttigieg does.

At this point I think it is a mistake to put Warren with Biden because like with Hillary the problem once again is that she can be so easily targeted in very subtle ways. Unlike anti-Buttigieg adverts, which will be seen as gay-bashing, anti-Warren hit pieces will sound all serious… even though in the end they will be anti-female.

So all of this leads me to now change my vote tomorrow from Warren to Biden, and just hope that Biden’s people are smart enough to maneuver the campaign waters ahead.

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Mattand  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:05:54pm

re: #41 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Shep Smith, is my guess. He only looks sane because he was only one who was not a drooling sycophant on FoxNews.

It is going to be Megyn Kelly Part 2.

I still think a lot of Shep’s loose cannon act was scripted for the most part. It really does look like he reached his breaking point by actually quitting a multi-million dollar gig and what not, LOL, but still; it was hard to accept the notion of someone bucking the Fox party line.

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gocart mozart  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:06:54pm
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:06:55pm

Voted early in Texas for Warren last week. Going to love seeing those BernieBros assume that my vote would be theirs if Warren just would have dropped out….

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:07:36pm

AYFKM

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:08:03pm

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Many progressives may not like a Biden/Buttigieg ticket, but the more I think about what has to happen in this country and in November is that we need, desperately need, a younger face in front of the masses.

Buttigieg gets a bad rap for being insensitive to the needs of African Americans. Well, that is so, at least to some extent, I guess, but I wonder how much puffery the Sanders campaign put into attacking Buttigieg (note how the Berners hated Harris too.)

While I think pragmatically for the sake of governance and representation that Castro is a better pick for VP, Julian does not come off as strong on TV or the campaign trial that Buttigieg does.

At this point I think it is a mistake to put Warren with Biden because like with Hillary the problem once again is that she can be so easily targeted in very subtle ways. Unlike anti-Buttigieg adverts, which will be seen as gay-bashing, anti-Warren hit pieces will sound all serious… even though in the end they will be anti-female.

So all of this leads me to now change my vote tomorrow from Warren to Biden, and just hope that Biden’s people are smart enough to maneuver the campaign waters ahead.

Julian also hasn’t endorsed Biden yet and I think the Dems see Texas as winnable. The first Hispanic VP would be a great moment too and Julian has worked in the federal executive branch too.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:08:31pm

Someone posted this forty-five second clip of an Ivanka Trump interview after Maggie Habberman (R-NYT) claimed on Twitter that liberals thought of her as a saviour against Donald Trump.

This is conservatism and always has been.

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Belafon  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:09:59pm

re: #49 EPR-radar

Interesting. Much US political reporting could be explained by too many reporters distancing themselves so thoroughly from politics and its real implications.

The same kind of ‘distancing’ could have been done for Nazi Germany, of course.

The idea that avoiding voting indicates a lack of bias is crap. Their job is not to avoid bias. Their job is to report the truth.

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EPR-radar  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:10:11pm

I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade for how they choose who to vote for in the primary.

However, I think it’s fair to point out that the race being inevitably a Biden/Sanders two person race is, at this time, purely a media construct. Only a tiny fraction of the delegates are determined right now.

After super tuesday various kinds of strategic voting could easily make sense. But for now it’s disappointing to see people buy into media narratives instead of voting for their first choice.

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Mattand  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:10:31pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🎃

I got a kick out of Maggie getting ratio’d into oblivion for that idiocy. In shocking turn of events, the NYT did not activate comments for that article.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:11:00pm

This is the big problem with hiring sycophantic far leftists to run your campaign, like Bernie has with Sirota and the rest. Nobody will bring you back to the real world and advise you to apply some nuance to that socialism label they’re going to hang on you.

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gocart mozart  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:12:40pm
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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:13:30pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

This is the big problem with hiring sycophantic far leftists to run your campaign, like Bernie has with Sirota and the rest. Nobody will bring you back to the real world and advise you to apply some nuance to that socialism label they’re going to hang on you.

Yesterday would have been a good day for Bernie to show some sort of outreach towards the middle but instead he blew of Selma and went and hugged Mike Gravel.

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Belafon  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:13:48pm

re: #62 gocart mozart

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The audience question is stupid.

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:13:49pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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Saw an article earlier whose headline was (paraphrased) “Young people don’t care about the USSR.” And it immediately struck me just how much that sums up the problem with Berners, most are simply too young to understand why “socialism” has such a negative connotation in the West. Even my generation are just on that edge of being too young to remember life before The Wall fell. For example, I’m just old enough to remember seeing Star Trek VI in a theater, but still too young to have understood any of the symbolism in it until I grew older and read up.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:14:22pm

TechTimes is so irresponsible:

This A.I. System Can Detect Possible Coronavirus Infection in Less Than A Blink of An Eye!

Scientists have developed the first-ever Artificial Intelligence (AI) system in the fight against Coronavirus in China that can get results in less than a blink of an eye.

High body temperature is among the earliest signs and symptoms of Coronavirus infection. This new AI system, referred to as Firetinas, enables in examining multiple people with high body temperature.

[…]

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:15:07pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

This is the big problem with hiring sycophantic far leftists to run your campaign, like Bernie has with Sirota and the rest. Nobody will bring you back to the real world and advise you to apply some nuance to that socialism label they’re going to hang on you.

As someone who really liked Beto, I was infuriated when Sirota lied about Beto and oil/gas industry. Bernie could be a decent leader if he actually had some decent people rather than lickboots.

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:15:33pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Someone posted this forty-five second clip of an Ivanka Trump interview after Maggie Habberman (R-NYT) claimed on Twitter that liberals thought of her as a saviour against Donald Trump.

This is conservatism and always has been.

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Which liberals, outside of the ones in the media who wanted desperately to tell themselves that voting for Trump didn’t make them racists/bigots/etc, thought Ivanka would be a “moderating influence” on Daddy?

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Mattand  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:16:52pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

This is the big problem with hiring sycophantic far leftists to run your campaign, like Bernie has with Sirota and the rest. Nobody will bring you back to the real world and advise you to apply some nuance to that socialism label they’re going to hang on you.

Seriously. That site I referenced earlier is similar to that. The denizens really seem to think that Bernie is somehow going to magically swat away every anti-Semitic, commie pinko-implying mudslinging Cult 45 throws at him, and our oh-so-astute voting public will see the light.

I’m not saying Sanders is unelectable but they really seem to think (and I’m guessing by extension, the Sandman himself) that Bernie is just gonna landslide his way into the White House.

I really wonder if they really know what a world of hurt is around the corner. That oppo book from 2016 that that journalist saw keeps popping in my head.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:17:16pm

re: #59 EPR-radar

But for now it’s disappointing to see people buy into media narratives instead of voting for their first choice.

Well, I’m in California, and it is clear that if Bernie wins the lion’s share, or even all, of the delegates from here then the nomination is his.

I have no doubt that Klobuchar and Buttigieg got on the Biden bandwagon when they did exactly for this reason: to help Biden get enough votes to reduce Bernie’s share in California.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:17:23pm
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Chrysicat  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:17:23pm

re: #53 gocart mozart

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i(m)p(each)sos  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:17:26pm

$10 in SorosBux says Rachel Maddow doesn’t say a word about Tweety tonight. I think there was some seriously bad blood there.

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b.d. (We're gonna win)  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:17:27pm

OMG, I just had a horrible thought, Chris Matthews is going to be on Morning Joe all the time.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:18:10pm

re: #63 b.d. (We’re gonna win)

Yesterday would have been a good day for Bernie to show some sort of outreach towards the middle but instead he blew of Selma and went and hugged Mike Gravel.

Yep. Could have been a nice photo moment, Bernie shaking John Lewis’ hand. Bernie will never build a coalition. He’s hoping for the Corbyn treatment.

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:18:46pm

re: #69 Mattand

Seriously. That site I referenced earlier is similar to that. The denizens really seem to think that Bernie is somehow going to magically swat away every anti-Semitic, commie pinko-implying mudslinging Cult 45 throws at him, and our oh-so-astute voting public will see the light.

I’m not saying Sanders is unelectable but they really seem to think (and I’m guessing by extension, the Sandman himself) that Bernie is just gonna landslide his way into the White House.

I really wonder if they really know what a world of hurt is around the corner. That oppo book from 2016 that that journalist saw keeps popping in my head.

Too many of them genuinely believe that Bernie can walk to the WH on Trump Hate alone, so they can fly their freak flag all the way to November and suffer no negative consequences for doing so.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:21:35pm

So yes, my vote tomorrow is an anti-Bernie vote. Since the original candidates to which I would have gravitated are no longer running, this protest vote of mine is what I’ve got.

Oh, and voting No on Prop B here in San Diego county.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:22:41pm

re: #75 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yep. Could have been a nice photo moment, Bernie shaking John Lewis’ hand. Bernie will never build a coalition. He’s hoping for the Corbyn treatment.

Every day, Bernie acts more and more like Corbyn. And he’s just as incompetent.

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:24:45pm

re: #75 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yep. Could have been a nice photo moment, Bernie shaking John Lewis’ hand. Bernie will never build a coalition. He’s hoping for the Corbyn treatment.

Biggest positive in such a comparison is that, unlike Corbyn, Bernie has no control over the party membership and thus can’t use party dues to screen out the middle-class vote that hates his guts while encouraging the college vote that wants to hear about all the “free” stuff he’s going to give them when it comes time to vote on the party leadership.

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EPR-radar  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:26:11pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

Too many of them genuinely believe that Bernie can walk to the WH on Trump Hate alone, so they can fly their freak flag all the way to November and suffer no negative consequences for doing so.

It’s really touching when online Berniebros start raving about what FDR accomplished with bold plans, conveniently forgetting:

1) The size of the D majorities in Congress that FDR had to work with

2) Sanders’ apparent unwillingness to put any effort into party-building or down-ticket races

3) The unfortunate fact that voters in 1932 would vote congressional Republicans out of office en masse for their three years of dismal failure, but no such effect can be expected in 2020. Every D victory in Congress that grows the D caucuses will need to be fought for hard.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:26:42pm

There are a whole bunch of judge nominations on the ballot. I don’t know any of them. Probably never will.

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EPR-radar  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:27:45pm

re: #81 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There are a whole bunch of judge nominations on the ballot. I don’t know any of them. Probably never will.

The whole idea of putting judges on ballots is basically a bad idea, IMO.

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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:28:41pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:30:38pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Ok, ok, princess. Let me know next time you panic about making the rent. Or choose between medication and food. Or watch your sick child suffer because you are uninsured (or have junk insurance.)

Or maybe you want to tell me how those things just don’t compare to the terrible Sophie’s choice of “San Moritz or the Riviera for Christmas this year” you clueless oxygen thief.

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Mattand  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:31:30pm

re: #84 Jebediah, RBG

Ok, ok, princess. Let me know next time you panic about making the rent. Or choose between medication and food. Or watch your sick child suffer because you are uninsured (or have junk insurance.)

Or maybe you want to tell me how those things just don’t compare to the terrible Sophie’s choice of “San Moritz or the Riviera for Christmas this year” you clueless oxygen thief.

Chef’s kiss for the bolded.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:32:26pm

re: #80 EPR-radar

3) The unfortunate fact that voters in 1932 would vote congressional Republicans out of office en masse for their three years of dismal failure, but no such effect can be expected in 2020. Every D victory in Congress that grows the D caucuses will need to be fought for hard.

And my proposition for why this is so: Today the battle lines are increasingly drawn on religious grounds, and a desperate attempt to escape the implications of modernity.

FDR came into office when the Republicans of his day had so demonstrated their lack of responsiveness to what was happening. It was a time of making changes for the necessity of being pragmatic.

Sad thing is today that with our built up wealth that modernity has brought that dumb-as-rocks Trumpers can reap the benefits of the past century all the while trying to destroy the past century’s work of bringing them those things (like modern medicine, telecommunications, insulated houses, etc.) So many old Trumpers are totally dependent upon social safety nets that if their idol really got his way (that is, the way of his rich buddies) then Trumpers would be among the hardest hurt.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:33:12pm

From the previous thread:
re: #259 retired cynic

People with astigmatism (hands up here) are very prone to vitreous detachments. I have major floaters in both eyes. It is amazing how well you can manage to “work” around them. An acquaintance with major problems from diabetes has had the fluid in his eyeballs replaced to alleviate the floater issue. I had no idea you could do that, but he is out and about after being virtually blind.

I’ve had floaters in my eyes since I was a child. I never knew that wasn’t supposed to be a thing, much like my astigmatism and severe myopia.

It was only after my sister got glasses as a tween and she commented “look I can see the leaves on the trees!” that I thought my eyesight was a problem.

My grandmother was convinced I was only seeking attention, insisted brown-eyed people do not have poor eyesight as children (and she was a schoolteacher) and took me to the most expensive ophthalmologist in the state (the same guy the state governor used) to have my eyes tested, with the idea I would pay that back to her if he found nothing wrong.

A few days later I had glasses and she was out over $1,000 in the Seventies.

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gocart mozart  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:33:41pm

When Nixon thinks you’re an asshole

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:35:30pm

Over the past few days I’ve posted quite a bit about that Korean fundamentalist Christian denomination that has by its secrecy enabled COVID-19 spread even more quickly.

And when I looked at the Breitbart story on this earlier today, the part of the article written by that website did its best to avoid the word “Christian” in describing that group. Only in quoting other sources did the word “Christian” appear, once.

The bartfarts want to use the word “cult”. The last thing they want to admit is that fundamentalist Christianity is what led that group to act the way they do.

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:36:24pm

re: #69 Mattand

If the sanders campaign is even slightly competent, that book should hold zero surprises. Based on the campaign so far, and on the things the always-pleasant berners shout say, I am going to bet otherwise.

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EPR-radar  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:36:33pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🎃

If you grow up with bad eyesight, you really have no clue how good normal vision can be until steps are taken. IIRC my first set of glasses was in 4th grade. It was probably that late because the school eye tests could be passed with squinting and guessing, for a while.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:37:22pm

re: #238 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The funny thing is I’ve never actually met a honest to god blue collar, working class Sanders supporter.

I was in 2016, but not this time round. (I assume enlisted Navy retiree with no college counts as blue collar.)

All the college educated people in my town (everyone except eight people) were and are Trump supporters.

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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:39:00pm

Well, in a can’t-tell-whether-to-laugh-or-cry election development, Bibi’s whole right-wing bloc has gone down from 60/120 projected seats to 59/120 (Israeli PMS need 61/120 to form a government). If it stays or even drops further, Bibi is every bit as politically FUBARed now as he was the whole past year.
Gonna call it a night, and hope we all wake up to better news. /Waves

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:40:10pm

re: #85 Mattand

Chef’s kiss for the bolded.

Thanks! I think that’s my first one!

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Dread Pirate  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:41:41pm
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Sherlock Hound  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:42:57pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🎃

From the previous thread:

I’ve had floaters in my eyes since I was a child. I never knew that wasn’t supposed to be a thing, much like my astigmatism and severe myopia.

It was only after my sister got glasses as a tween and she commented “look I can see the leaves on the trees!” that I thought my eyesight was a problem.

My grandmother was convinced I was only seeking attention, insisted brown-eyed people do not have poor eyesight as children (and she was a schoolteacher) and took me to the most expensive ophthalmologist in the state (the same guy the state governor used) to have my eyes tested, with the idea I would pay that back to her if he found nothing wrong.

A few days later I had glasses and she was out over $1,000 in the Seventies.

When my retinas detached, the operation involved a tiny drill that was used to cut away the vitreous, which has the consistency of Jello. The pressure in the eyeball was carefully controlled to form an air bubble to hold the retina in place. Over time, the eye regenerates the fluid.

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EPR-radar  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:43:22pm

re: #93 Disloyal Archangel

Well, in a can’t-tell-whether-to-laugh-or-cry election development, Bibi’s whole right-wing bloc has gone down from 60/120 projected seats to 59/120 (Israeli PMS need 61/120 to form a government). If it stays or even drops further, Bibi is every bit as politically FUBARed now as he was the whole past year.
Gonna call it a night, and hope we all wake up to better news. /Waves

So, can Bibi and his gang of crooks call elections from now until the end of time to keep Bibi out of jail (even if he never gets back into office)?

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stpaulbear  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:43:44pm

I stopped at Target this evening to pick up some canned goods and pasta. Not crazy in the store but they were completely out of TP, hand sanitizer and bottled water.
Stopped at Walgreens to pick up a prescription and they were out of hand sanitizer too.
Stopped at the local grocery store - gone.
Finally came home and looked on Amazon. None in stock. Any brand.
I do have a half bottle of Purell at work. I might have to sneak it into my bag…

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:46:58pm

re: #98 stpaulbear

Small sanitizer bottles are regularly given out at trade shows. Hoard them!

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jaunte  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:50:00pm
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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:51:16pm

re: #97 EPR-radar

So, can Bibi and his gang of crooks call elections from now until the end of time to keep Bibi out of jail (even if he never gets back into office)?

Plenty of folks in the country have been reluctantly bracing for a fourth election in the coming months, and it’s actually a possibility.
HOWEVER: it won’t save Netanyahu’s legal hide - he has to go before a court in less than two weeks, and while the Israeli Legal Advisor to the Government has been going to extreme lengths to avoid having to announce that Bibi can’t form a government on account of his investigations, he may have no choice in the end. Especially if the alternative would mean an Israeli Supreme Court decision on the matter, which could be absolutely disastrous to the country for multiple reasons - think constitutional crisis on steroids, cocaine and rocket fuel.
Toss in the fact that Avigdor Lieberman, head of the secular-right party Yisrael Beitenu who hates Bibi with a passion now and can seal his fate, has flat out publicly stated that he will not allow such a thing to happen not matter what.

So i wouldn’t call it a big possibility.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:53:32pm

thread continues

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:53:42pm
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Belafon  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:55:05pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:55:14pm
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Belafon  Mar 2, 2020 • 6:56:27pm

I agree. It’s not blacks who are underinformed.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:00:36pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:02:30pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:02:46pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

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He’ll never be President.

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:02:53pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

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The more they whine, the more obvious it becomes that they have no confidence in their candidate. They were counting on the “moderate” vote being so splintered that Bernie would win in a walk, but the moment the opposition coalesces around a single candidate they start screaming “RIGGED!!! and talking about walking away unless the DNC gives the nomination to Bernie.

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jaunte  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:03:45pm

It takes a lot of energy to willfully misread “the negative reaction that too many Americans have to the word “socialism.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:04:07pm

Biden is on fire.

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EPR-radar  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:04:22pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

This ‘Commie Tommy Chong’ person doesn’t realize that within living memory of a great many people, that cute user name would have seen him blacklisted by fascists with the approval of most of the mushy middle.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:04:43pm

This is too funny..

This response…I want this to be true!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:08:08pm

re: #114 Sherlock Hound

This is too funny..

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LMAO. I want to know what other long deceased Reagan era Senators thought of Tweety.

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:09:32pm

re: #105 gocart mozart

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The analogy totally fails unless Charlie is acknowledging that Trump views the law as a hindrance and circumvents it regularly to enforce his own ideal of “justice.” Unless you’re reaching all the way back to the campy Batman of yesteryear, every version since at least the 80s has ranged from “brooding asshole” to “quasi-fascist bastard.”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:09:42pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

It’s actually depressing to see such a determined effort to miss the point.

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makeitstop  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:09:52pm

Man, Bernie does not look good.

I sincerely hope he’s not hurting himself.

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:13:35pm

re: #118 makeitstop

Man, Bernie does not look good.

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I sincerely hope he’s not hurting himself.

If the man hadn’t already suffered a heart attack on the campaign trail, I’d be hesitant to look for signs of ill health because it reminds me too much of similar efforts to portray Hillary as constantly on Death’s doorstep throughout 2016.

But he has had a heart attack, so all I can do at this point is worry that he might drop dead before November and the political implications of that.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:18:30pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:20:16pm

re: #120 Dread Pirate

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And now we watch as the Sanders campaign plays their 2016 Greatest Hits, sabotaging their own campaign by driving anybody who might be considering him over Biden away by insulting them.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:20:17pm

Lre: #120 Dread Pirate

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He won every county. These people gaslight like Trump.

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CarolJ  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:23:38pm

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

But spamsters/scamsters aren’t going to follow the law, and if calling later means they get people when their more vulnerable,so be it.

It’s the reasoning behind those 3 am infomercials.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:24:29pm

re: #119 Targetpractice

If the man hadn’t already suffered a heart attack on the campaign trail, I’d be hesitant to look for signs of ill health because it reminds me too much of similar efforts to portray Hillary as constantly on Death’s doorstep throughout 2016.

But he has had a heart attack, so all I can do at this point is worry that he might drop dead before November and the political implications of that.

What pisses me off is how his supporters mock Biden but we’re not allowed to question Comrade Bernie’s health.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:25:33pm

fucking idiot who is going to get a huge bunch of people killed because of his fucking idiocy.

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gocart mozart  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:25:59pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:28:33pm

re: #125 The Pie Overlord!

fucking idiot who is going to get a huge bunch of people killed because of his fucking idiocy.

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I’m putting this out there now, I am totally expecting him to push for the clinical trials to be bypassed and any vaccine rushed out there in order to claim “victory” over the pandemic before November. He is going to put people’s lives at risk just to say that he “won.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:31:04pm

re: #127 Targetpractice

I’m putting this out there now, I am totally expecting him to push for the clinical trials to be bypassed and any vaccine rushed out there in order to claim “victory” over the pandemic before November. He is going to put people’s lives at risk just to say that he “won.”

And that vaccine is ineffective…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:32:32pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

It’s actually depressing to see such a determined effort to miss the point.

It’s not the socialism that bothers me the most about Bernie. It’s the other skeletons in his closet that will come out: His wife’s finances, his sex columns from the 70s, his lack of achievement in congress, etc. This stuff is not going away. Have his supporters been living in cave for the pas 16 years?

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ckkatz  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:32:47pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🎃

From the previous thread:
It was only after my sister got glasses as a tween and she commented “look I can see the leaves on the trees!”

That was my very first comment when I got my first eyeglasses at age 8.

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:32:54pm

re: #128 Joe Bacon 🌹

And that vaccine is ineffective…

My greater worry isn’t that it’s ineffective, it’s that it’s toxic to recipients. Resulting in preventable injuries/deaths that would have been caught in clinical trials.

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gocart mozart  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:33:44pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:33:48pm

re: #129 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s not the socialism that bothers me the most about Bernie. It’s the other skeletons in his closet that will come out: His wife’s finances, his sex columns from the 70s, his lack of achievement in congress, etc. This stuff is not going away. Have his supporters been living in cave for the pas 16 years?

They just don’t care.

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jaunte  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:34:26pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:34:50pm

re: #133 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They just don’t care.

They don’t because what exists around him is not so much a following as a cult of personality.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:35:05pm

re: #128 Joe Bacon 🌹

And that vaccine is ineffective…

He wants doctors to give out regular flu shots (or just placebos) and tell everyone that it’s a “vaccine for coronavirus”

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:35:58pm

re: #136 The Pie Overlord!

He wants doctors to give out regular flu shots (or just placebos) and tell everyone that it’s a “vaccine for coronavirus”

The reality-TV president wanting to bullshit the masses into thinking he did something when all he really did was lie to them?

Quelle surprise!

//////

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:37:47pm

re: #135 Targetpractice

They don’t because what exists around him is not so much a following as a cult of personality.

They think every millennial is a closeted Berner. I find it insulting. Bunch of cosplay brocialists.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:40:04pm

“Greatest hits”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:43:43pm

re: #371 BigPapa

DJY7AcWq39U/N3I64BlqTwowEmRLXyW91AR5at/NRpBxBzDiIOxlGGfdtViCeaD8Um0YgPvT3zqvFIfUaxh/lXuqD15lkLOXdeg3vBGr2hbxufPvVtEGmMDB9cmfrV9Fu9xeAjQuEA8MWi4VN2slhoNfPDnns4hwL+GBBtbU8NAKkLHr9/jBbw0hjM55GAokQryIjVXOnW5eLB48ltJ9cnjQ1u8vSlu4WbIJkOuGr4lpkAJRRjUSKpMNkX1JP54SVDcw9QcII46jOOVMuYz/WQAChWECbeES40wEVQv9XnbOcrrLsoNQ/ARnor2obQMOLSS8TeqFUN4WlbOFyAUdud0aQ6OPIakh7rPgrj6IYyxriEaZTm6Kkvw+9CtMJUSrBEsOI7xV5dr4ef3GuQP+EFmvILXf2OVz7CCivLv+SHfhga5J0mRysg==

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Belafon  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:44:25pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:45:58pm

re: #139 The Pie Overlord!

“Greatest hits”

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He’s losing it more daily.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:46:13pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:47:15pm

re: #143 goddamnedfrank

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Princess Sparklefarts blocked me! ☺️

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:47:43pm

THIS! This is so important! The most—and the least—that the disabled community wants, is to be Fucking Listened To! This is why I voted for Warren.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:50:26pm

re: #143 goddamnedfrank

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Seriously. If you like Bernie, you should ask yourself serious questions about his political judgment.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:52:08pm

re: #146 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Seriously. If you like Bernie, you should ask yourself serious questions about his political judgment.

If you think Princess Ivanka and her Consort are incompetent just imaging Bernie surrounding himself with Nina Turner, Cornel West, Princess Sparklefarts and the rest of his groupies!

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:52:28pm

re: #143 goddamnedfrank

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I’ve seen cargo cults that made more sense than this shit.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:52:32pm

JFC look at this happy horseshit

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retired cynic  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:53:46pm

re: #130 ckkatz

That was my very first comment when I got my first eyeglasses at age 8.

Mine, too. Bifocals. Age 8.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:54:49pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:55:43pm

re: #149 The Pie Overlord!

JFC look at this happy horseshit

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This is some banana republic shit right here.

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makeitstop  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:55:49pm

re: #146 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Seriously. If you like Bernie, you should ask yourself serious questions about his political judgment.

And keep an eye on what the oppo is saying…or not saying.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:56:51pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 2, 2020 • 7:57:05pm

re: #150 retired cynic

Mine, too. Bifocals. Age 8.

I had to be fitted with trifocals at age 9 and over since I have to wear them. I tried Progressive lenses once, put them on but got severe dizzy spells I tried to stand up but I got so dizzy I couldn’t. Took a good 10 minutes to stabilize after I took them off.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:02:19pm

I’m suspecting repetitive traumatic brain injury.

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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:03:01pm

re: #156 Dread Pirate

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I’m suspecting repetitive traumatic brain injury.

I’m suspecting a large infusion of liquid assets.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:03:22pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:03:39pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Clue Movie Friends Who Were Socialists

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retired cynic  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:03:43pm

re: #155 Joe Bacon 🌹

I wore hard contacts for over 50 years, starting at age 15, to control the astigmatism. They tried graduated contact lenses. I had the same reaction. Didn’t work! As soon as Medicare hit, I started getting my cataracts taken care of, and they did lens replacements. Best thing since sliced bread! I have never seen so well in my entire life!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:03:58pm

re: #156 Dread Pirate

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I’m suspecting repetitive traumatic brain injury.

There are times when I am so tempted to go on that Wingnut Welfare and spout the most asinine talking points…

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Dread Pirate  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:06:21pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:07:06pm

re: #162 Dread Pirate

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This is what fucks a country in a pandemic, the emergency services becoming unavailable as the people that run such become sick themselves.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:07:09pm

re: #158 The Pie Overlord!

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“Hey Doc, I want that COVID-19 vaccine but can you maybe mix it up with some Tiger Energy?”

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:12:05pm

re: #441 Sherlock Hound

Pence just told on himself: He would love internal passport controls like the Soviet Union had.

All my life conservatives occasionally promoted that idea.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:14:45pm

re: #22 Belafon

Wonderful. The Catholic Church can influence their ethical concerns (your AI pharmacist refuses you contraceptives, medical software recommends against abortion, &c)

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:22:43pm

re: #444 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m curious at this point how that would work, since our roads all pretty much just go places without heed to state lines.

When Colorado passed legal weed, the Nebraska Unicameral proposed closing every unpaved road into Colorado from the main part of the state and the Panhandle, leaving only eleven paved roads total. The idea was they could man checkpoints to look for weed coming in from Colorado (because no one ever did that before). They also proposed allowing vigilante gun owners to use their own time to patrol along the state line (as this is an open-carry state).

It only went down in defeat because of the deafening cacophony of ranchers and farmers along the state line pointing out how that would ruin them.

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mmmirele  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:37:12pm

re: #128 Joe Bacon 🌹

And that vaccine is ineffective…

Life imitating art…

In World War Z (the book), there was a fake vaccine called Phalanx. Oh, it was a real vaccine for real rabies, but was completely ineffective for the “Solanum” virus that made people zombies. But it was sold as effective and people *in the USA* bought it as such, but it didn’t work.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 2, 2020 • 8:43:39pm

re: #91 EPR-radar

If you grow up with bad eyesight, you really have no clue how good normal vision can be until steps are taken. IIRC my first set of glasses was in 4th grade. It was probably that late because the school eye tests could be passed with squinting and guessing, for a while.

Yup, I was really good at notetaking from oral presentations from teachers, and when I needed something from the blackboard I would go up after class and copy it.

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sagehen  Mar 2, 2020 • 9:00:05pm

This seems a good time to re-visit some of my most vivid memories of being infuriated by Chris Matthews.

1) in about Sept or Oct of 2006, when it was becoming apparent that the D’s would take the House and Nancy would be Speaker. Chris didn’t like that, “because a Speaker has to be forceful and stubborn, and everybody hates when a woman does that.”

2) Late in the 2008 primaries; Tweety did a whole segment comparing the necklines on Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama’s campaigning outfits, what kind of jewelry and scarves they wore to enhance their wardrobes, and their hairstyles. Then turns to his panel and says “don’t you think so too?” Andrea Mitchell responds: “They’re both Ivy-League lawyers, dean’s list, law review, graduated cum laude. Maybe what they’re wearing shouldn’t be the most important criteria by which to judge them.”


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