Tom Misch & Yussef Dayes - Lift Off (Feat. Rocco Palladino) [VIDEO]

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The official video for Tom Misch & Yussef Dayes - Lift Off (feat Rocco Palladino)

Recorded Live in Kyiv.
Directed by Douglas Bernardt and shot on 16mm film.
Mixed by Syed Adam Jaffrey

Taken from the album “What Kinda Music” which will be released on Beyond The Groove / Blue Note on April 24th.

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You can listen to “Lift Off” on all platforms here:
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Production Company: Stink Films
Director: Douglas Bernardt
Executive Producer: Katie Lambert
Producer: Martha McGuirk
DOP: Adolpho Veloso
Choreographer / Dancer: Tolik Sachivko
Dancer: Liza Riabinina
Director Rep: HANDS
Commissioner: Connie Meade & Duncan Murray
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Executive Producer: Kate Galytska
Production Manager: Yuri Galitskiy
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1 st AD: Vadim Yuzba
Focus Puller: Vlad Dobrik
Production Designer: Max Halushka
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Location Manger: Dima Shevchenko
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Chaperon: Andrew Birch
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414 comments
1
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:21:56pm

Australia’s coronavirus infection count spikes 41% in 24 hours to 199 - as terrifying map shows the true scale of the chaos

As many have noted, it is summer in Australia, and summers in Australia are hot.

So much for the idea that warm weather will damp down the pandemic.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:33:34pm

Wasn’t until tonight that I began to recognize that feeling in the air. I don’t mean the warmer weather, I mean that feeling one gets in the back of their mind if they live in an area prone to major weather disasters. That feeling that says shit’s about to get real and the natives are starting to get restless. Usually whenever I get this feeling, it’s just before or shortly after they announce that a hurricane is headed our way. And it tends to herald the beginning of a panic as people start bugging out for “safer” places.

I’ve a sneaking suspicion that this hotel is gonna be a ghost town before month’s end.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:35:10pm

So I see that “California and Washington” is a trend on Twitter… and it’s about Trump’s latest derp about restricting movement in the US.

He’s ignoring that NY has more confirmed cases and that earlier tonight it became clear that the virus is in the community in Texas.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:36:58pm

Also of note, twitter trends are now absent of “covid” and related terms.

The “trends” are just a work. Intentionally pumping up entertainment and sports to sell favors to large companies, that’s what twitter is all about.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:37:25pm

re: #3 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So I see that “California and Washington” is a trend on Twitter… and it’s about Trump’s latest derp about restricting movement in the US.

He’s ignoring that NY has more confirmed cases and that earlier tonight it became clear that the virus is in the community in Texas.

Like most of his brain farts, it’s a day late and a dollar short. The time to consider travel restrictions was weeks ago, when the first cases began cropping up on the West Coast. Putting any sort of stop on domestic travel at this point would not only be pointless, but it would actually further the economic panic as everything from gasoline sales to domestic carriers would be affected.

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sagehen  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:41:01pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:42:35pm

re: #6 sagehen

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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:43:19pm
9
Kilroy was here  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:47:13pm

Oregon just closed its schools state wide starting Monday.
Closure is planned for two weeks.
Gov Kate Brown:

“However, I have heard from superintendents, school board members, teachers, parents, and students that it has now become impossible to functionally operate schools due to workforce issues and student absences. Schools are experiencing critical shortages in staff, and superintendents are concerned for school personnel who are at elevated risk such as those over age 60 and those with underlying medical issues.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:51:07pm

re: #8 Disloyal Archangel

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5. All that talk about how “there’s no money for it” sounds really hollow after the Fed announces $1.5 trillion in “cheap” loans

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:54:06pm
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plansbandc  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:54:29pm

NM schools will be closed for 3 weeks starting Monday. No, I don’t know why they don’t just close them tomorrow.

My choir is on hiatus. I brought gifts to my section leader/Grand Poobah of the choir and her wife to thank them for their awesome work and to thank them for the utter joy I’ve had singing with them and the choir. I fear we will never sing together again.

There will be no opening day for baseball. Over the years I’ve drifted away from the sport, but there has always been something about opening day. And it breaks my heart we won’t have one.

I don’t wish this horrible illness on anyone. Even the fucking assholes who helped put us here.

I can’t believe we’re living in The Stand. I wonder if good and evil will show up and gather the troops.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:54:46pm

Aw damn, I’m not going to bring forward the comment I left hanging on the last thread; it’s probably not that important anyway.

Coronavirus: Asian stocks extend global markets rout (BBC)

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:54:55pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:59:12pm

The problem of reduced lung function came out early, was sort of quieted, but now again is on the front burner. From the SCMP so take with usual precautions:

Coronavirus: some recovered patients may have reduced lung function and are left gasping for air while walking briskly, Hong Kong doctors find

Some patients who recovered from Covid-19 have suffered reduced lung function and now experience problems such as gasping for air when walking quickly, Hong Kong’s Hospital Authority has revealed.

The authority released its findings on Thursday after observing the first group of discharged coronavirus patients.

[…]

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:59:14pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

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Don’t laugh, Laura Ingraham spent time the other night gaming out a hypothetical President Clinton response to the virus by invoking BENGHAZI!!!!.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:59:38pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 12, 2020 • 10:59:56pm

Nepal cancels all climbing permits for the rest of the season to Mt. Everest due to the coronavirus outbreak.
bbc.com

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:02:35pm

Futures are now +500.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:02:51pm

re: #11 Ace-o-aces

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The phrase “You can’t fix stupid” comes to mind.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:11:49pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Aw damn, I’m not going to bring forward the comment I left hanging on the last thread; it’s probably not that important anyway.

Coronavirus: Asian stocks extend global markets rout (BBC)

Like I said yesterday, investors can’t price in what might happen over the weekend so there will likely be a further round of panic selling. No one wants to get left holding the bag if it all goes to hell.

Good morning from Europe, everyone.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:12:11pm

re: #19 Belafon

Futures are now +500.

Great, now we’re only back 2.5 years worth of gains rather that 3.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:13:49pm

re: #19 Belafon

Futures are now +500.

Bargain hunters.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:14:44pm

Coronavirus: How Chinese social media platforms controlled information on the outbreak (Goes to the Hong Kong Free Press, a crowd-funded investigative journalism site in Hong Kong)

The article details the huge effort the PRC government took to censor on-line activity surrounding the coronavirus outbreak as it happened starting in December.

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sagehen  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:14:46pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:23:33pm

re: #25 sagehen

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I suspect before this is all over, we’re going to hear a lot of stories of people who broke their “voluntarily” quarantines because either they couldn’t deal with the isolation…or they couldn’t deal being stuck indoors with their families/roommates for 2 weeks.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:26:04pm

re: #19 Belafon

Futures are now +500.

President Biden had his usual calming effect.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:26:59pm

There are 27 cases of coronavirus in Panama

The Minister of Health, Rosario Turner , reported this March 12 that there are already 27 cases of coronavirus in Panama, most of them patients 40 years of age or older.

The figure has doubled in 24 hours: last Wednesday night, the minister counted 14. The escalation was as follows: on Monday, 1 case was announced; on Tuesday, 8; on Wednesday, 14, and now, 27. All, according to the minister, are Panamanians.

[…]

131 contacts have been investigated and 27 tested positive for Covid-19, said National Director of Health Nadja Porcell.

The infectologist Xavier Sáez-Llorens explained that when speaking of intimate contact, it is the person who was less than a meter away from a person with symptoms and, in general, they are family members and health personnel who attended to the patient. Direct contacts must be isolated and monitored. He said that these people cannot have the coronavirus test if they do not have symptoms.

[…]

So 27/131 “close” contacts test positive.

This suggests that we here in the US are grossly under-testing.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:27:39pm

re: #26 Targetpractice

I suspect before this is all over, we’re going to hear a lot of stories of people who broke their “voluntarily” quarantines because either they couldn’t deal with the isolation…or they couldn’t deal being stuck indoors with their families/roommates for 2 weeks.

Humans are incredibly social animals and with a few exceptions, such as extreme introverts or those with severe social anxiety disorder, prolonged isolation leads to serious mental and emotional issues.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:28:26pm

So the Nikkei finished 6% down.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:28:27pm

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

Humans are incredibly social animals and with a few exceptions, such as extreme introverts or those with severe social anxiety disorder, prolonged isolation leads to serious mental and emotional issues.

I resemble that remark.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:33:40pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

I resemble that remark.

//

Heh. Honestly, I’m quite the opposite, I’m very much an extroverted personality. For me, a quarantine would be a living hell.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:41:10pm

re: #23 Dr Lizardo

Bargain hunters.

Fishermen scattering chum

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:41:25pm

This is an interesting development from Ghana:

Two cases of coronavirus have been confirmed in Ghana, according to Kwasi Agyemang-Manu, the country’s minister of health.

Agyemang-Manu disclosed this at a press briefing on Thursday.

He said two persons who came into the country from Norway and Turkey tested positive after laboratory tests from the Noguchi Memorial Institute of Medical Research.

“Both individuals returned to Ghana from Norway and Turkey. So these are imported cases of COVID-19,” he said.

thecable.ng

That tells me pretty clearly that there’s a high likelihood there’s ongoing community spread in both Turkey and Norway.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:42:21pm

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

Heh. Honestly, I’m quite the opposite, I’m very much an extroverted personality. For me, a quarantine would be a living hell.

I really can’t say I’m an introvert, otherwise I wouldn’t feel comfortable working in the service industry. It’s more a consequence of my work schedule, since working graveyard means that I don’t really get a full two days off. Hence why I usually spend the one truly full day away from work lazing ‘round the house, as I’ve little motivation to do much besides catch up on the rest I’ve been missing.

On the other hand, if I got stuck at home for 2 weeks without the option of leaving, by day 3 I’d be climbing the walls.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:46:24pm

We need some moody music:

Respighi: Works for Piano and Orchestra Concerto in modo misolidio, Toccata

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2020 • 11:56:58pm

When we look at the unusually high death rates in Italy, especially compared to the rest of Europe thus far, it makes me wonder if:

1) Air pollution is a factor; the Po Valley has the worst air quality in the EU.

2) Italy has the second oldest population in the world, only behind Japan. Italy is basically a retirement home.

I’m just speculating, of course, but the combination of poor air quality and a large elderly demographic cohort could account for why we’re seeing such a high CFR in Italy.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2020 • 12:04:08am

My position is if you’re looking for a solid buy signal within the market data, you’re looking in the wrong place.

Because everything in the market right now is being driven by a mathematically chaotic event.

Let’s assume you’re an epic level finance analyst and knowing all the key stats and players surrounding every major corporate stock is your jam. Well, you have a very high degree of uncertainty about which of those key players will be alive next quarter and how all the stress our system is under will break and reshape society.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 12:06:26am

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

My position is if you’re looking for a solid buy signal within the market data, you’re looking in the wrong place.

Because everything in the market right now is being driven by a mathematically chaotic event.

Let’s assume you’re an epic level finance analyst and knowing all the key stats and players surrounding every major corporate stock is your jam. Well, you have a very high degree of uncertainty about which of those key players won’t be alive next quarter and how all the stress our system is under will break and reshape society.

Yep. The Black Swan has landed.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 12:18:51am

Some sat photos of Qom, Iran might reveal the truly horrifying scope of the COVID-19 outbreak there.

Here’s a link to the article with the photos: vox.com

The first photo is a general overview of Qom. If you look towards the top of the first photo, you’ll see the Beheshte Masoumeh cemetery.

The second photo is a closer view of that cemetery. If you look towards the right of the photo, you’ll see what looks to be a newly-opened section of the cemetery, with a big white dot off to the left of that section.

The third photo is, more or less, a close-up of that newly-opened section. You’ll see what looks to be freshly-dug burial trenches and that big white dot looks to be a small mountain of lime.

This would be indicative of mass graves for the dead - and according to local doctors from Qom who are speaking out (regardless of the official line from Tehran), they likely have 500,000 cases and tens of thousands of dead. There are apparently surreptitiously-taken videos of these mass graves in Qom and videos of the deceased basically piled like cordwood in local hospitals.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2020 • 12:19:17am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 12:21:23am

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

Schadenscheiße.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2020 • 12:23:40am

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

Schadenscheiße.

That’s so good

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Dave In Austin  Mar 13, 2020 • 12:41:07am

And here we are.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2020 • 12:55:51am

Apparently I missed this earlier:

There’s now 17 confirmed cases in VA, including 2 here in Va Beach. This time last week, the number was zero and only 3 confirmed cases on Monday.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:18:18am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:21:13am

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

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Yeah, totally. Trump’s the guy in the zombie apocalypse film who’s been bitten and infected and as the infection progresses and he deteriorates, he grows increasingly desperate to hide it.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:22:37am

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

Also, if Trump really does come down with COVID-19*, holy shit, just watch the markets absolutely shit the bed.

*and to be honest, I personally wouldn’t be at all surprised if he does come down with it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:27:07am

re: #21 Dr Lizardo

Like I said yesterday, investors can’t price in what might happen over the weekend so there will likely be a further round of panic selling. No one wants to get left holding the bag if it all goes to hell.

Good morning from Europe, everyone.

I mentioned that confirmed cases in Germany doubled over the course of one day.

Expect a similar development in the US even if it does not show up in the stats. And that is also disconcerting the markets - they really have NO IDEA how widespread things are.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:28:53am

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

Humans are incredibly social animals and with a few exceptions, such as extreme introverts or those with severe social anxiety disorder, prolonged isolation leads to serious mental and emotional issues.

For as much as I am perfectly happy in my own company, I do occasionally go and kick my ass out the door to socialize because I know it is good for me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:32:17am

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

I bet there’s a German word for the mixture of abject horror and worldview vindication many of us are currently experiencing

Weltanschauungsverängstigunbestätigungsschadenfreude

(Schadenscheiße for short)

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:34:05am

re: #47 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, totally. Trump’s the guy in the zombie apocalypse film who’s been bitten and infected and as the infection progresses and he deteriorates, he grows increasingly desperate to hide it.

Trump’s the father from Night of the Living Dead: A loud asshole who’s defensive and violent even before he’s bitten, insisting upon locking himself in the cellar because help has to come eventually. Just you watch, this is all gonna blow over and those beatniks and the ni-CLANG! upstairs who are trying to barricade the place and find a key for the gas pump outside will look foolish once the cavalry arrives.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:35:13am

Presumptive positive case of COVID-19 at Camden County hospital

A patient at a Camden County, Ga. hospital has a presumptive positive test for COVID-19.

According to the Coastal Health District, the Southeast Georgia Health System - Camden Campus was notified of the presumptive positive case late Tuesday evening by the Georgia Department of Public Health. The test result is considered presumptive until the CDC completes a confirmatory test.

A 29-year-old female from Charlton County came to the Camden Campus ER with respiratory symptoms on Saturday, March 7. The Southeast Georgia Health System states the patient was screened according to guidelines. She was treated and released.

According to the health system, the patient returned to the hospital on Monday, March 9, with worsening symptoms. The health system states the patient has no travel history or known exposure to COVID-19. The physicians made the decision to isolate her and requesting a test.

[…]

Yet more evidence that there is community spreading around the US. Not just in California or Washington state.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:36:45am

re: #52 Targetpractice

Trump’s the father from Night of the Living Dead: A loud asshole who’s defensive and violent even before he’s bitten, insisting upon locking himself in the cellar because help has to come eventually. Just you watch, this is all gonna blow over and those beatniks and the ni-CLANG! upstairs who are trying to barricade the place and find a key for the gas pump outside will look foolish once the cavalry arrives.

Good analogy; it’s been a couple decades since I last saw that classic and I’d forgotten about that character.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:37:10am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

Also, if Trump really does come down with COVID-19*, holy shit, just watch the markets absolutely shit the bed.

*and to be honest, I personally wouldn’t be at all surprised if he does come down with it.

If he gets it the 25th could very likely be invoked for legit medical reasons.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:38:21am

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

If he gets it the 25th could very likely be invoked for legit medical reasons.

and political reasons…if they wait and Pence gets it as well, then they have to hand the reins over to Nancy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:43:30am

North Dakota, which is the northernmost land of Trump love:

Fans flock to ND state tourney while pandemic shuts down most gatherings

[…]

Janice Martin, of Bismarck, was at the tournament Thursday to cheer on her nephew, Remington Schatz, who plays for the Dickinson Midgets.

Martin showed no signs of worry over the coronavirus.

“None,” Martin confirmed.

“It’s like the flu,” she added. “They’re overrating it.”

Another Dickinson booster who was there to cheer on a player but declined to give his name said there were scarier diseases than the coronavirus to worry about.

“I’m more of a realist,” he said.

[…]

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:43:53am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and political reasons…if they wait and Pence gets it as well, then they have to hand the reins over to Nancy.

The GOP would sooner see America burn to ashes then let that happen. Yeah, if both Pence and Trump came down it, Pelosi becomes POTUS (albeit, only temporarily until either Trump or Pence recovers…..well, if they recover).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:45:38am

re: #58 Dr Lizardo

The GOP would sooner see America burn to ashes then let that happen. Yeah, if both Pence and Trump came down it, Pelosi becomes POTUS (albeit, only temporarily until either Trump or Pence recovers…..well, if they recover).

Pence perhaps, but realistically, Trump, if he survived, would not fully recover before his term of office was over…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:47:34am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Pence perhaps, but realistically, Trump, if he survived, would not fully recover before his term of office was over…

Yeah - contrary to Trump’s delusions of his own genetic superiority, he’s certainly not in the best of health overall.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 1:48:01am

Meanwhile, getting back to the Super Tuesday results, Warren has pulled ahead of Bloomberg here in California. But at 13.2% she is still way short of getting delegates. There’s still 1.5M ballots left to count.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:02:01am

Here’s a story that has snuck under the radar: Here in Southern California, Hunter-the-Lesser, disgraced and now out of Congress, opened up his seat when he left.

It’s a Republican stronghold, the last one, in the region. Because its the home of the religious right in San Diego county (remember, the Institute for Creation Research started here.)

Well, Car Thief, former US Representative from the rich part of the county, decided to run for this district in the eastern part of the county, though the Thief himself is not from there.

The current results, with 77k ballots yet to count in the county (not all will be in this district):

AMMAR CAMPA-NAJJAR 62,201 36.78%
DARRELL ISSA 38,210 22.59%
CARL DEMAIO 34,621 20.47%
BRIAN W. JONES 18,996 11.23%

Ammar is a Democrat (and of course is the subject of all sorts of bigotry from the Republicans.) Car Thief is second. Demaio is one of those wingnuts who is atypical, being openly gay. Jones is also a Republican and state senator.

So the district is clearly Republican.

And unless there is a miracle, Car Thief is going to find his way back into Congress.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:02:55am

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:08:19am

Kaiser Health News using Politifact to highlight that Trump is wrong:

Trump Wrongly Said Health Insurers Will Pay For All Coronavirus Treatment

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:10:37am

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:14:12am

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:14:56am

Greece:

Yamarellou: 34 new cases of coronavirus - At 133 in total

In fact, 10 out of the total 133 cases are “orphaned”, meaning they do not belong to the family-friendly environment of the cases we knew from the outset.

Infectious disease has estimated that Greece has now entered the third phase of the coronavirus spreading, where “orphan” outbreaks are observed.

Google translate uses “orphan” because that is a literal translation of the Greek, but obviously what is meant is cases without a related contact that can be traced.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:18:13am

re: #67 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Basically, they’re talking about community spread - it’s now endemic.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:34:31am

On a better note. This is good news

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:38:07am

Australian Home Minister Peter Dutton has been diagnosed with COVID-19; interestingly, he met with AG Bill Barr and Ivanka Trump about six days ago.

Australia’s Minister for Home Affairs Peter Dutton announced on Friday that he has tested positive for the new coronavirus, which causes a disease called COVID-19.

In a statement on Friday night, Dutton, 49, said he tested for the disease after waking up with a temperature and sore throat.

Dutton was in Washington, DC, last week for a conference with other representatives for the Five Eyes intelligence alliance, which consists of the US, UK, New Zealand, Australia, and Canada.

businessinsider.com

Mr. Dutton is the person standing to the right of Ivanka Trump in this photo.

Looks to me like the White House is a COVID-19 vector and probably Mar-a-Lago as well. The number of cases who have had contact with Administration officials and personnel isn’t just some kind of a rounding error or uncanny coincidence.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:38:29am

So the twitteratti are wrestling with the vugraph data allegedly from a meeting at UCSF on the 10th.

Whether or not the provenance can be proven, the UK, Ireland, Germany have all worst case scenarios out, and they show indeed ghastly figures.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:40:36am

re: #71 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the twitteratti are wrestling with the vugraph data allegedly from a meeting at UCSF on the 10th.

Whether or not the provenance can be proven, the UK, Ireland, Germany have all worst case scenarios out, and they show indeed ghastly figures.

Confirmed cases in Germany doubled from the 11th to the 12th, I am expecting much the same again when today’s stats are released (usually early afternoon EST)

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:40:44am

re: #71 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the twitteratti are wrestling with the vugraph data allegedly from a meeting at UCSF on the 10th.

Whether or not the provenance can be proven, the UK, Ireland, Germany have all worst case scenarios out, and they show indeed ghastly figures.

Do you have a link to the data? I’d like to take a gander myself.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:51:55am

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:52:45am

re: #74 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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So give it to us straight, just how fucked are we?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:53:11am

So many Americans still in denial about the existence of a pandemic.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 2:55:27am

re: #75 Targetpractice

So give it to us straight, just how fucked are we?

The UK, Ireland, Germany have all come out with expectations that a majority of their populations will contract the virus in the next year.

The lethality is still being debated, but if it is 1% in the big picture, then indeed we’ll be looking at around a 1% drop in the population faster than expected.

Most will be old, expected to die in the next 5 to 10 years, so in the big picture the population dynamics won’t be that big.

However, if one of the victims is close to you, you’ll still suffer the loss of a loved before they would have died otherwise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:00:58am

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

Do you have a link to the data? I’d like to take a gander myself.

Stats for Germany, updated daily, by state (in German)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:01:39am

The know-nothings just don’t get it. Of course, they are know-nothings.

Consider this: every bed filled with a COVID-19 patient is a bed that is not available to another patient needed for a different problem.

Every ambulance which is busy taking a COVID-19 case to a hospital is not available to ferry another person in need, and said conveyance will need to be sterilized in between transports.

Elderly health care providers are in danger, the ones with the most experience. Italy has now lost their senior doctor for this disease… to the disease.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:02:08am

re: #77 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The UK, Ireland, Germany have all come out with expectations that a majority of their populations will contract the virus in the next year.

The lethality is still being debated, but if it is 1% in the big picture, then indeed we’ll be looking at around a 1% drop in the population faster than expected.

Most will be old, expected to die in the next 5 to 10 years, so in the big picture the population dynamics won’t be that big.

However, if one of the victims is close to you, you’ll still suffer the loss of a loved before they would have died otherwise.

Yeah, I haven’t spoken about it until now, but I’m worried for my folks. Not only are both on the cusp of retirement, but they’ve both got health conditions (dad has angina, mom is diabetic), long-time smokers, and both are still working jobs that are physically taxing. Doesn’t help that they’re stubborn as mules, refusing to see a doctor until they’re so sick that they can’t ignore it any longer. My dad’s had bacterial pneumonia twice, both times refusing to seek medical help until it was bad enough that they had to give him the stronger antibiotics. And the cherry on top is both are on a cocktail of various drugs, which means they’re at risk for dangerous drug interactions if there’s a medical emergency.

And yet, both are also convinced that this is all a bunch of needless hysteria, that the whole thing is “no worse than the flu,” and if they get it they’ll just have to spend a few days at home before they can go back to work.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:02:12am

re: #76 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So many Americans still in denial about the existence of a pandemic.

because they were told by Trump, Fox and Rush to ignore it and are the kind of people who would rather double down than back down

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:09:20am

re: #80 Targetpractice

It is illustrating, how many Americans don’t think these things through.

The impact on health insurance providers is going to be astronomic. Thus insurance rates are going to go up.

Americans still don’t realize that other places in the world provide health care as well or better than here in the US. See Japan and South Korea, who so far have been able to keep lethality lower than say in Italy, both because they’re more hardcore about containment but also because they have had sufficient spare capacity in their health care system.

The people in Wuhan were not so fortunate. Death rates are high there, because they got overwhelmed early. Health care providers were among the victims.

We don’t carry much spare capacity in this country because of the attempts to keep costs low, to make profits.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:12:53am

re: #82 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We don’t carry much spare capacity in this country because of the attempts to keep costs low, to make profits.

that was Trump’s rationale for firing the pandemic emergency response team: they were just sitting around doing nothing…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:14:08am

re: #74 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Cool. Thanks.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:22:30am

Indonesia reports 2nd COVID-19 death, man was treated in Central Java

Indonesia confirmed its second death linked to COVID-19, a 59-year-old man who died on Wednesday (Mar 11) as he was being treated at a hospital in Solo City, Central Java.

[…]

The Moewardi Public Hospital, where the man was treated, told local media on Thursday that the patient had no history of travelling overseas. He also did not come into close contact with foreigners.

[…]

Obviously he had to contract it somehow.

We humans are mobile, and travel long distances. Viruses hitchhike on us.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:25:07am

re: #85 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Indonesia reports 2nd COVID-19 death, man was treated in Central Java

Obviously he had to contract it somehow.

We humans are mobile, and travel long distances. Viruses hitchhike on us.

the vectors and the vanquished…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:26:48am

Laudate Dominum | The Queen’s Six | Classic FM Session

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:32:37am
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Ming5000  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:33:15am

A nuance on the “dogs cannot get Covid-19” news that I have not seen discussed; their fur can have the virus.
When you return home from being out and about, assume you are contaminated. Take off your outside clothes and wash your hands correctly.
Don’t pet doggo with the wagging tail and soulful eyes first. You can contaminate their fur. You are a bigger threat than they are.

That is my take.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2020 • 3:35:31am

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:08:05am

re: #9 Kilroy was here

Oregon just closed its schools state wide starting Monday.
Closure is planned for two weeks.
Gov Kate Brown:

The same in Kentucky.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:10:12am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:11:40am

re: #92 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It’s like Disaster Voltron.

Good one.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:14:13am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:20:12am
the most scripted of presidential settings, a prime-time televised address to the nation, President Trump decided to ad-lib — and his errors triggered a market meltdown, panicked travelers overseas and crystallized for his critics just how dangerously he has fumbled his management of the coronavirus,” the Washington Post reports.

“Even Trump — a man practically allergic to admitting mistakes — knew he’d screwed up by declaring Wednesday night that his ban on travel from Europe would include cargo and trade, and acknowledged as much to aides in the Oval Office as soon as he’d finished speaking.”

so he tanked the market
all by himself
because he knows best
and doesn’t listen to anybody
and couldn’t for 10.minutes just *read*

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:23:15am

Iran’s latest report pushed global death total over 5k.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:26:52am

re: #96 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Iran’s latest report pushed global death total over 5k.

If the info in my #40 is to be believed, it’s probably way higher than 5,000.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:29:09am

I hope he has been tested.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:30:20am

Julia Ioffe: “Some 63 million Americans voted for a man who wanted to smash the system to smithereens, either because they felt it wasn’t doing enough for them or because breaking glass just feels so primitively satisfying. Or maybe it’s because the Republican Party has been peddling a dystopian anarchistic anti-government pipe dream to them for the last four decades. Now, it turns out, a functioning government is a good thing to have when a global pandemic arrives on your shores. It turns out that maybe reforming an imperfect system is wiser than just taking a sledgehammer to it, better to trust people who have dedicated their lives to being public servants than trashing them in favor of a one-man, megalomaniacal savior, better to have a functioning system than dancing on its rubble while crowing about the death of the ‘deep state’—or ‘the political establishment.’”

“To those 63 million Americans, I say this: you wanted to smash the system and you got what you wanted—in spades. Now we will all have to pay the price.”
“To those 63 million Americans, I say this: you wanted to smash the system and you got what you wanted—in spades. Now we will all have to pay the price.
—————
want proof?

by 63 to 48% d’s are washing their hands more than r”s in this

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:46:50am

Czech Republic has just closed its border and all travel in and out of the country is prohibited.

RIP, Czech economy. If this continues for a prolonged period of time, the economic consequences could be just as disastrous as a full-on outbreak.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:51:04am

Based on what I’m seeing on the wingnut board I frequent, I’m guessing the Fox News talking point yesterday was what about Obama’s botched response to the swine flu?

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:51:55am

re: #1 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Australia’s coronavirus infection count spikes 41% in 24 hours to 199 - as terrifying map shows the true scale of the chaos

As many have noted, it is summer in Australia, and summers in Australia are hot.

So much for the idea that warm weather will damp down the pandemic.

Trump’s statements were never based in reality. They were all part of his reactionary know nothing approach that has guided him all the time. He doesn’t listen to experts. He ignores anyone who doesn’t tell him what he wants to hear.

And right now, that’s having disastrous repercussions. He has slow walked testing. So instead of admitting that he has to do better, he attacks… Obama. Obama didn’t fail on pandemic prevention. His actions were a lesson in how to respond to a crisis and adapt on the fly.

Heck, this is agile process 101. Initiate process, develop responses, have metrics to measure response, and retrospective to learn what can be done to improve process.

Trump’s doing absolutely none of this. Agile (or scrum or kanban) are all business processes. Trump the businessman isn’t doing ANY of that. He’s just continuing to blame others for his failures, compounding failures, lying about absolutely everything, and he endangers everyone on the planet with this bulkshit on a stick.

Why do I say that last bit?

Because once covid19 has a foothold here, it’ll be here indefinitely. Countries that have managed to contain the spread through aggressive testing would need to keep Americans out. If they let down their guard, they’ll face new outbreaks thanks to our dumbass Trump. This is why a pandemic is so dangerous.

You have to not only think about the steps now, but what happens down the road too.

Trump has failed the math of this outbreak.
Trump has failed the logistics of this outbreak.

Trump has failed, and we are going to be paying the price for a long time to come.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:52:29am

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

Czech Republic has just closed its border and all travel in and out of the country is prohibited.

RIP, Czech economy. If this continues for a prolonged period of time, the economic consequences could be just as disastrous as a full-on outbreak.

The world growing more nationalistic has been one of my greatest disappointments. Haven’t heard anything about Slovakia but my cousin the mayor is doing her best to communicate to the people in her village. A lot of them including her have close family here and elsewhere.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 13, 2020 • 4:58:02am

The Coronavirus panic is official in upstate NY, Walmarts is out of terlet paper. Luckily I only poop at work.

I have a feeling Governor Cuomo is going shut down NY government and state offices today.

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:00:50am

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

Humans are incredibly social animals and with a few exceptions, such as extreme introverts or those with severe social anxiety disorder, prolonged isolation leads to serious mental and emotional issues.

Recently I received a statement from the credit card company about categories that we spent money on, it said $5000 in restaurants last year. I was thinking to myself - “that can’t be right”. When I looked, it was counting brewery taprooms, and then “that’s about right then”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:06:19am
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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:09:24am

re: #104 Shropshire Slasher

Expect the same in NYC too within the next 72 hours. Nonessential workers stay home. WFH where possible. The closures across NYC metro area are coming fast and furious - but the guidance over what constitutes a large gathering differs tremendously depending on the state.

One place might be 50 or more. Another might be 250. Or 500.

The lack of national guidance is a problem too. That adds to the chaos and confusion, which also drives the markets down. Trump’s own dumbfuckery is driving the markets down and all of his responses to the freefall compound the problem.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:12:50am

re: #107 lawhawk

Expect the same in NYC too within the next 72 hours. Nonessential workers stay home. WFH where possible. The closures across NYC metro area are coming fast and furious - but the guidance over what constitutes a large gathering differs tremendously depending on the state.

One place might be 50 or more. Another might be 250. Or 500.

The lack of national guidance is a problem too. That adds to the chaos and confusion, which also drives the markets down. Trump’s own dumbfuckery is driving the markets down and all of his responses to the freefall compound the problem.

Our Band trip to NYC during Spring Break still hasn’t been canceled, but I can’t see it happening. I heard yesterday that Broadway shows have shut down for a month, so even if we went our tickets to Wicked and Blue Man Group would be canceled.

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Teukka  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:15:26am

T-Centralen, the transportation hub in Stockholm City and County, at 1100 local today…

T-Centralen is jam packed with people whenever it is open and it isn’t a major holiday. This is not normal.
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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:17:10am

There’s a bunch more there for those who do the twitter thing… but let’s just say, Trump isn’t a very good businessman and doesn’t do what any businessman would be doing in a situation like this. He’s fucking up daily and his fuckups are compounding themselves, all because he can never admit to being wrong. His ego is so fragile and stunted that he can’t do it. He is a fuckup and everyone around him feeds into this because they do only what he wants and tell him only what he wants to hear, not what he must hear.

And right now, he must hear that he’s fucked up bigly and that he has to adapt and change to the circumstances. Instead, he’s claiming that he’s doing great, but his slow response is due to others (when the facts are otherwise).

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:19:08am

re: #110 lawhawk

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There’s a bunch more there for those who do the twitter thing… but let’s just say, Trump isn’t a very good businessman and doesn’t do what any businessman would be doing in a situation like this. He’s fucking up daily and his fuckups are compounding themselves, all because he can never admit to being wrong. His ego is so fragile and stunted that he can’t do it. He is a fuckup and everyone around him feeds into this because they do only what he wants and tell him only what he wants to hear, not what he must hear.

And right now, he must hear that he’s fucked up bigly and that he has to adapt and change to the circumstances. Instead, he’s claiming that he’s doing great, but his slow response is due to others (when the facts are otherwise).

I keep on going back to this. People voted for an uniquely unqualified man over an uniquely qualified woman. They can’t tell me there’s no sexism in our society and honestly my generation is no better than the rest especially other whites of my generation. Trump would be a joke in Congress let alone as POTUS but people had to buy the stupid lies about Clinton

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:28:27am

NYC Mayor DeBlasio: We have 95 cases in NYC. By next week, he expects 1,000.

That’s due in part to more aggressive testing, but even that isn’t going to be sufficient to contain. He’s trying to limit the damage done by Trump slow walking the testing at the outset.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:38:38am

Trump’s again pitching tax cuts - the payroll tax cut to 0% through the end of the year as his solution.

That’s the GOP way - destroy the safety net funding mechanism that does nothing to stop the spread of covid19.

Fuck this entire GOP with a rusty chainsaw sideways. They all own this mess. All of them. From Trump on down to the local GOP dog catcher. ALL of them. You voted for him? You own this fucker.

This disaster is on you and you alone. We warned everyone that an incompetent know nothing bigot would do incalculable damage to the nation and would fail under a crisis.

He failed after Maria. He’s failed here too. He’s incapable of doing the job - and sabotaging federal govt is what the GOP and End Times lunatics want. They think this is going to make their craptastic dreams come true.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:39:41am

re: #108 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Live Nation has cancelled all concerts and tours for the next few weeks/months, so take that in to account as well.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:40:00am

re: #112 lawhawk

NYC Mayor DeBlasio: We have 95 cases in NYC. By next week, he expects 1,000.

That’s due in part to more aggressive testing, but even that isn’t going to be sufficient to contain. He’s trying to limit the damage done by Trump slow walking the testing at the outset.

Trump cared more about whining about the impeachment, his stupid rallies, etc than actually doing anything. The virus itself obviously isn’t his fault but it’s yet another example of failed leadership from the top aided and abetted by complicit Republicans in Congress, his cronies who are at best over their head, ,media allies who want to make him the American strongman, & nihilistic both sides assholes who think they are most informed but not at all. I just want a boring presidency again. I want to know we have a President that actually gives a shit about the world and has an actual moral compass.

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lizardofid  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:55:33am

re: #112 lawhawk

NYC Mayor DeBlasio: We have 95 cases in NYC. By next week, he expects 1,000.

That’s due in part to more aggressive testing, but even that isn’t going to be sufficient to contain. He’s trying to limit the damage done by Trump slow walking the testing at the outset.

When future scholars study this pandemic, they will certainly note the importance of testing, and how woefully the US failed in getting ahead of it. Thanks Donald.

“Both countries saw their first cases of the disease called COVID-19 in late January. South Korea has since reported 67 deaths out of nearly 8,000 confirmed cases, after testing more than 222,000 people. In contrast, Italy has had 1,016 deaths and identified more than 15,000 cases after carrying out more than 73,000 tests on an unspecified number of people.”

Link

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 5:59:25am

re: #99 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

want proof?

by 63 to 48% d’s are washing their hands more than r”s in this

want more?

ABC News/Ipsos poll:

“Although unease over the coronavirus is high, it also strongly breaks along partisan lines. Among Democrats, 83% are concerned about getting coronavirus, including 47% who are very concerned, and among Republicans, 56% are concerned, including only 15% who are very concerned. Only 17% of Democrats are not concerned while a larger 44% of Republicans are not concerned.”

they buy whatever idiocy is dangled in front of them

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jeffreyw  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:00:32am

Lonesome Do Woodpecker
Good morning!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:02:25am

re: #117 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

want more?

ABC News/Ipsos poll:

they buy whatever idiocy is dangled in front of them

It’s going to be a long road to fix the rot Trump and his Republican allies have infested our society with. Gotta win this fall of course.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:02:27am

re: #101 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Based on what I’m seeing on the wingnut board I frequent, I’m guessing the Fox News talking point yesterday was what about Obama’s botched response to the swine flu?

…what?
so it’s ok for us to screw this one up worse????

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:03:23am

re: #91 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The same in Kentucky.

All public and private schools shutting for two weeks starting Monday, and the third week is Spring Break week.

We are going to our “Virtual Day” procedure we use for snow days. We have an online learning platform, and all of our students have computers(some school issued). I’ll be doing some livestream classes and the like over the next couple of days. We are really only in school today to prep the students on what each individual class has as plans to handle the next two weeks.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:03:37am

trump doesn’t want to do this because it goes against everything he has been saying and makes him look bad. Meanwhile, states cannot get assistance they need without the declaration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:04:39am

re: #106 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Donald J. Trump

For decades the CDCgov looked at, and studied, its testing system, but did nothing about it. It would always be inadequate and slow for a large scale pandemic, but a pandemic would never happen, they hoped. President Obama made changes that only complicated things further…..

Herman Göring

For decades the Luftwaffe looked at, and studied, its airborne supply system, but did nothing about it. It would always be inadequate and slow for a large scale tactical crisis, but a German army would never be surrounded at Stalingrad, they hoped. Air Minister Milch made changes that only complicated things further…..

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lizardofid  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:05:07am

If any country in the world was going to come up with “drive-thru” Covid-19 testing it would have been the US. But no, it’s S. Korea.

Link

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:08:40am

re: #122 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

trump doesn’t want to do this because it goes against everything he has been saying and makes him look bad. Meanwhile, states cannot get assistance they need without the declaration.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:10:21am

re: #121 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

All public and private schools shutting for two weeks starting Monday, and the third week is Spring Break week.

We are going to our “Virtual Day” procedure we use for snow days. We have an online learning platform, and all of our students have computers(some school issued). I’ll be doing some livestream classes and the like over the next couple of days. We are really only in school today to prep the students on what each individual class has as plans to handle the next two weeks.

Much the same in Kentucky. Counting Spring Break, the kids will be out of school 4 weeks.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:11:00am

re: #124 lizardofid

If any country in the world was going to come up with “drive-thru” Covid-19 testing it would have been the US. But no, it’s S. Korea.

Link

Our leadership has been terrible on this. And it’s on Golfy Orange Rageface.

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lizardofid  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:13:50am

re: #127 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Our leadership has been terrible on this. And it’s on Golfy Orange Rageface.

All the best people!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:16:35am

re: #128 lizardofid

All the best people!

Hey Jared’s got this. Ivanka too!

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:17:07am
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jaunte  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:17:52am

“Kraus said the organization is carefully monitoring the status of the respiratory illness in Palm Beach County”

How?

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:18:31am

“Trump also hosted over 1,000 supporters at two fundraisers at Mar-a-Lago last weekend, shaking hands with VIP donors in Mar-a-Lago’s smaller, gilded ballroom.”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:19:05am

re: #130 jaunte

Florida @GovRonDeSantis has suggested gatherings should be limited to fewer than 250 people to limit coronavirus

But 700 are expected at this dog-rescue charity fundraiser w/the daughter-in-law of @realDonaldTrump at his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, FL

Well, then - I guess we’ll find fairly soon if Mar-a-Lago is a COVID-19 vector or not, won’t we?

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:19:38am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:21:17am

re: #134 jaunte

Yep….upthread I posted a photo of the Aussie in question. He’s standing right next to Ivanka, and I mean shoulder-to-shoulder. And Ivanka, she’s right next to AG Bill Barr.

🤨

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:23:04am

re: #134 jaunte

Met with Barr too.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:25:49am

re: #130 jaunte

Because we all know a virus does a head count of all guests and only enters once the 250th person arrives.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:26:09am

Dow opens in 5.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:26:51am

re: #137 GlutenFreeJesus

Because we all know a virus does a head count of all guests and only enters once the 250th person arrives.

all about flattening the curve.

while not quarantining everyone.

there is no completely right approach, just degrees

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:27:01am

This Washington Post column criticizes Biden for an ad that they assert has manipulated images. Fighting fire with fire?

If Hillary had been elected President, the GOP probably would still be in charge of both Houses but it’s possible that the WH pandemic team would have intervened at an early stage and stopped coronavirus before the disease started its deadly march throughout the world. OTOH, it is still likely that by the time anyone outside had heard of the outbreak, it was too late. We would be living with a pre-Trump Republican Party that commanded respect and deference throughout the media. The GOP would be claiming that their approach would have done a better job of protecting us during the pandemic and the public might have fallen for it.

But now, if we are fortunate, Trump’s clear malfeasance abetted by the entire Republican Party could lead to a sea-change in Washington, with Democrats finally taking control of the Senate and regaining the upper-hand with the judiciary. The fascist rot that infests the entire GOP is open to all to see — and this ultimately may do more to facilitate a progressive agenda than a Hillary victory in 2016. This may ultimately lead to M4A when we finally realize that it’s the only solution to dealing with a health crisis we are now facing.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:27:11am

re: #131 jaunte

“Kraus said the organization is carefully monitoring the status of the respiratory illness in Palm Beach County”

How?

“carefully monitoring”

/

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:28:27am

re: #127 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Our leadership has been terrible on this. And it’s on Golfy Orange Rageface.

This is what I come here for.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:28:36am

re: #140 Hecuba’s daughter

This Washington Post column criticizes Biden for an ad that they assert has manipulated images. Fighting fire with fire?

If Hillary had been elected President, the GOP probably would still be in charge of both Houses but it’s possible that the WH pandemic team would have intervened at an early stage and stopped coronavirus before the disease started its deadly march throughout the world. OTOH, it is still likely that by the time anyone outside had heard of the outbreak, it was too late. We would be living with a pre-Trump Republican Party that commanded respect and deference throughout the media. The GOP would be claiming that their approach would have done a better job of protecting us during the pandemic and the public might have fallen for it.

But now, if we are fortunate, Trump’s clear malfeasance abetted by the entire Republican Party could lead to a sea-change in Washington, with Democrats finally taking control of the Senate and regaining the upper-hand with the judiciary. The fascist rot that infests the entire GOP is open to all to see — and this ultimately may do more to facilitate a progressive agenda than a Hillary victory in 2016. This may ultimately lead to M4A when we finally realize that it’s the only solution to dealing with a health crisis we are now facing.

Perhaps, some day, we will stop looking at healthcare costs (including hospitals) as profit centers. There is so much profit surrounding healthcare it is a herculean task.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:29:35am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

For as much as I am perfectly happy in my own company, I do occasionally go and kick my ass out the door to socialize because I know it is good for me.

This is a good to 80% accurate assessment of me, too.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:30:00am

re: #106 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This is very good mister president sir all our sports leagues will start back up and the schools can open again sooner.
//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:30:39am

re: #140 Hecuba’s daughter

This Washington Post column criticizes Biden for an ad that they assert has manipulated images. Fighting fire with fire?

But now, if we are fortunate, Trump’s clear malfeasance abetted by the entire Republican Party could lead to a sea-change in Washington, with Democrats finally taking control of the Senate and regaining the upper-hand with the judiciary….This may ultimately lead to M4A when we finally realize that it’s the only solution to dealing with a health crisis we are now facing.

It took nothing less than the threat of massive civilian casualties at the outset of WW2 to get Great Britain to implement its National Health Service, which Churchill sought to abolish after the war until it turned out to be too popular to be don away with.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:31:04am

re: #101 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Based on what I’m seeing on the wingnut board I frequent, I’m guessing the Fox News talking point yesterday was what about Obama’s botched response to the swine flu?

yeah, top notch stuff these people

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:31:37am

Head of BT gets coronavirus. CEOs of O2, Three and Vodafone UK now “self-isolating”

It has been announced that Philip Jansen, the CEO of the incumbent UK telco BT, has been diagnosed with CoVID-19. He fell ill four days after attending a meeting in Westminster, London with Oliver Dowden, the new Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport. Also at the gathering were the chief executives of O2, (Mark Evans), Three (Dave Dyson) and Vodafone UK (Nick Jeffrey) and several so-far unnamed “members of trade bodies representing the mobile industry”.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:31:41am

Ah, Mitchell & Webb.

Just replace “the poor” with “pensioners”.

Mitchell and Webb - Kill The Poor

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:32:39am

re: #141 Sir John Barron

They have the top people working on it.
Who?
Top people.
Cut to office janitor washing down floor in an empty room.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:33:38am

re: #101 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Based on what I’m seeing on the wingnut board I frequent, I’m guessing the Fox News talking point yesterday was what about Obama’s botched response to the swine flu?

Whoever funds The Federalist is going with The Protocols of the Elders of Wuhan caused this.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:34:20am

re: #134 jaunte

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If none of the Trumps have been infected, Satan must be protecting them.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:34:33am

re: #148 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Due to nature of international travel and geopolitics, we’re seeing people at the upper echelons of government and business getting infected (or being identified first because they get tested first). That follows where Iranian ministers/parliamentarians were infected and some have already died. International travelers were the initial vector.

Trumpworld is a vector here too.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:35:26am

re: #142 Sir John Barron

This is what I come here for.

I did after all have a GG Grandmother from Scotland.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:37:01am

re: #95 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

so he tanked the market
all by himself
because he knows best
and doesn’t listen to anybody
and couldn’t for 10.minutes just *read*

Yeah but, but, Obama swine flu and this coronavirus is a hoax turn the machines back on!!!!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:37:14am

Naturally enough, once one Utah Jazz player was diagnosed, everybody on the team got tests, despite the test shortage. I believe the owner is a Trump supporter.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:38:03am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:40:50am

re: #157 Ace-o-aces

I keep on saying this but the motherfucker’s whole career in politics is due to the fact that he hated Obama. It wasn’t a great calling to public service. It was the fact that he thought he could do it better than Obama and he thought he could do it better than Obama because he’s a racist asshole.

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lizardofid  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:43:27am

re: #156 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Naturally enough, once one Utah Jazz player was diagnosed, everybody on the team got tests, despite the test shortage. I believe the owner is a Trump supporter.

Let’s face it, as pointed out above, it’s pay to play healthcare in this country. Unfortunately, if race horses could contract this virus, some would be getting tested ahead of the great unwashed.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:45:06am

re: #152 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If none of the Trumps have been infected, Satan must be protecting them.

NO SHIT!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:46:19am

re: #152 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If none of the Trumps have been infected, Satan must be protecting them.

can’t be infected if you don’t get tested amiright

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:47:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:49:18am

re: #156 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Naturally enough, once one Utah Jazz player was diagnosed, everybody on the team got tests, despite the test shortage. I believe the owner is a Trump supporter.

It’s about their value to society, I posted an article yesterday about how the highest-paid public salary in 40 of our 50 states is a college sports coach…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:50:04am

Falwell Jr is apparently spreading crazy shit on FNC that the virus is a NK weapon. First off, that’s dangerous bullshit. Secondly, his fucking buddy Donald has been talking up Kim Jong Un for years. Rupert Murdoch dying would be a good thing. I mean that. FNC is a danger to society because they spread and give airtime to conspiracy theorists like Falwell Jr to protect the failings of Rupert’s right wing nationalist agenda.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:50:31am

re: #164 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Falwell Jr is apparently spreading crazy shit on FNC that the virus is a NK weapon. First off, that’s dangerous bullshit. Secondly, his fucking buddy Donald has been talking up Kim Jong Un for years. Rupert Murdoch dying would be a good thing. I mean that. FNC is a danger to society because they spread and give airtime to conspiracy theorists like Falwell Jr to protect the failings of Rupert’s right wing nationalist agenda.

yeah this is just what we need

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:50:38am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s about their value to society, I posted an article yesterday about how the highest-paid public salary in 40 of our 50 states is a college sports coach…

Yes I’ve seen that. College sports is big $$$$. The professional game is even more so.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:51:50am

re: #165 Sir John Barron

yeah this is just what we need

I remember when I learned about the 20’s in high school. We learned about how the Jazz age wasn’t just that. It was also a period of great disillusionment. I’m feeling a lot of that now even though I’m confident we will beat Trump. I just feel cynical about if we’re going ot learn anything.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:52:32am

re: #166 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yes I’ve seen that. College sports is big $$$$. The professional game is even more so.

The NCAA is just a state-financed minor league for the NBA & NFL.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:55:53am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Weltanschauungsverängstigunbestätigungsschadenfreude

(Schadenscheiße for short)

Ausgezeichnet!

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 6:57:32am

re: #111 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I keep on going back to this. People voted for an uniquely unqualified man over an uniquely qualified woman. They can’t tell me there’s no sexism in our society and honestly my generation is no better than the rest especially other whites of my generation. Trump would be a joke in Congress let alone as POTUS but people had to buy the stupid lies about Clinton

Calm down. In fact, while far too many people voted for DT, he lost the popular vote by quite a bit (which people seem to keep forgetting). And judging by subsequent elections, the huge numbers who stayed home wouldn’t have voted for him.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:00:45am

Good morning. Welp, feeling a cold coming on. So I can’t go to work. This sucks. Pretty damn unlikely it’s anything but a cold. But rules are rules.

The American Orchid Society had one of its big annual shows in Santa Barbara this week. They pulled the plug. Which makes sense. But all the exhibitors were there. The wife and a crew of four people had set up a massive display. 20 feet wide. Full of some of the best examples of Orchids available.

Which will be torn down before anyone sees it. Except for this photograph she took.

She even got interviewed by an NPR reporter. No word on when that airs.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:04:06am

re: #118 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Lonesome Do Woodpecker
Good morning!

Whatever floats your boat…

We don’t do lonesome.
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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:05:08am

Reading through the stories about the various Trumps’ contacts and it looks like they’re all going to be vectors for the virus into the family. They can all blame each other.

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jeffreyw  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:07:52am

re: #172 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Whatever floats your boat…

[Embedded content]

We call it social distancing now.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:08:28am

Trump currently experiencing physiological confusion.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:09:12am
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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:10:29am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:10:33am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:11:46am

re: #177 Belafon

JFC.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?!?!

I slept terribly last night and this kind of shit is exactly why.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:11:55am

re: #178 Dr Lizardo

Translation:

According to the first consistent reports from Brazilian media, the president #Bolsonaro , who dismissed #Corona days ago as “fantasy”, has tested positive for #COVID19 . #Brasilien .

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:12:00am
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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:12:44am

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

JFC.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?!?!

I slept terribly last night and this kind of shit is exactly why.

I’m pretty sure Trump heard that Pelosi was getting credit for this and that set him off.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:13:01am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:13:37am

re: #178 Dr Lizardo

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Bolsonaro has tested positive? I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump has, and is keeping it secret. He looked terrible Wednesday night.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:14:30am

re: #184 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Bolsonaro has tested positive? I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump has, and is keeping it secret. He looked terrible Wednesday night.

As his skin turns paler, he’ll apply more orange.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:14:47am

These are the “experts” the White House is relying on:

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:15:04am

re: #184 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Bolsonaro has tested positive? I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump has, and is keeping it secret. He looked terrible Wednesday night.

Weekend at Bernie’s Donnie’s. Coming soon to a theater near you!

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:16:24am

re: #158 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I keep on saying this but the motherfucker’s whole career in politics is due to the fact that he hated Obama. It wasn’t a great calling to public service. It was the fact that he thought he could do it better than Obama and he thought he could do it better than Obama because he’s a racist asshole.

Actually, I’m pretty sure he had plans going back to 2004 at least. Obama may have given him more incentive.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:17:13am

re: #186 The Pie Overlord!

These are the “experts” the White House is relying on:

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Asking scientists would be to admit they were wrong.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:18:08am

re: #188 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Actually, I’m pretty sure he had plans going back to 2004 at least. Obama may have given him more incentive.

Actually I think he formed his first exploratory committee ahead of the 2000 Election if memory serves.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:18:51am

Gaetz has tested negative, but has decided he likes paid sick leave for himself, so he’s staying self-quarantined.

m.dailykos.com

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:19:24am

re: #181 Belafon

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Heard most of them from one of the owners in a company meeting yesterday. I was thinking, what the hell, I haven’t heard of any of those.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:20:05am
Coronavirus live updates: Brazil president Jair Bolsonaro tests positive, local media report

theguardian.com

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:22:51am

re: #193 Dr Lizardo

theguardian.com

Trump and him were slobbering all over each other last weekend.

Keep avoiding those doctors Donnie! You don’t want to look like a wimp!!!

Thoughts and prayers…..

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:24:18am

re: #194 b.d. (Voting is not a Plot)

Trump and him were slobbering all over each other last weekend.

Keep avoiding those doctors Donnie! You don’t want to look like a wimp!!!

Thoughts and prayers…..

Privately, behind closed doors, Trump’s probably alternately raging and sweating bullets.

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:24:57am

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

Privately, behind closed doors, Trump’s probably alternately raging and sweating bullets.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:25:26am

re: #118 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Lonesome Do Woodpecker
Good morning!

The woodpecker ate the food house?

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:27:14am
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jeffreyw  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:28:28am

re: #197 makeitstop

The woodpecker ate the food house?

We swept the splinters off the table, as one does.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:29:58am

re: #198 The Pie Overlord!

Absolutely everything he does is breathtakingly stupid.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:32:53am
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:33:20am
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:34:21am

Shit. Shit. Shit.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:39:08am

And because of Trump’s refusal to be tested for COVID-19, it’s entirely likely we - and the rest of the world - will first hear about it in a breaking news alert, something like, “President Trump rushed to Walter Reed due to respiratory failure”.

With an update 24 to 48 hours later, “President Trump in critical condition, reported to be on a ventilator”.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:40:54am

re: #204 Dr Lizardo

And because of Trump’s refusal to be tested for COVID-19, it’s entirely likely we - and the rest of the world - will first hear about it in a breaking news alert, something like, “President Trump rushed to Walter Reed due to respiratory failure”.

With an update 24 to 48 hours later, “President Trump in critical condition, reported to be on a ventilator”.

And then his allies claiming that the deep state poisoned him.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:42:28am

Dallas county is now banning gatherings of more than 500. I fully expect Abbott to call a special session to remove that authority from cities: wfaa.com

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:43:31am

re: #205 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And then his allies claiming that the deep state poisoned him.

Oh sweet baby Jesus, the conspiracy nuts would be wall-to-wall. I imagine Freeperville would go into meltdown and Alex Jones and Sean Hannity would be foaming at the mouth.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:44:06am

re: #206 Belafon

Dallas county is now banning gatherings of more than 500. I fully expect Abbott to call a special session to remove that authority from cities: wfaa.com

The way Republican governors have gone after the decisions made by cities and localities to me shows that states rights was always a load of shit. Though it was like this in the Civil War too. The CSA didn’t take too kindly to secession within its own borders.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:44:44am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

Oh sweet baby Jesus, the conspiracy nuts would be wall-to-wall. I imagine Freeperville would go into meltdown and Alex Jones and Sean Hannity would be foaming at the mouth.

I expect it even though Trump is ignorant on both a policy and personal level about how important public health is.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:47:48am

re: #57 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

North Dakota, which is the northernmost land of Trump love:

Fans flock to ND state tourney while pandemic shuts down most gatherings

Damn! The deplorables really are going to self-eradicate.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:57:05am

I’m not sure I buy all of this, but all I can do is laugh in the “you had it coming to you” laugh.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 7:57:26am

re: #211 Belafon

Reload

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:00:16am

re: #211 Belafon

Definitely sounds like something he’d do, but I’ll wait for corroborating sources on this one.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:00:20am

re: #211 Belafon

Tweet seems to be gone.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:01:10am
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calochortus  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:01:29am

re: #171 Rightwingconspirator

Good morning. Welp, feeling a cold coming on. So I can’t go to work. This sucks. Pretty damn unlikely it’s anything but a cold. But rules are rules.

The American Orchid Society had one of its big annual shows in Santa Barbara this week. They pulled the plug. Which makes sense. But all the exhibitors were there. The wife and a crew of four people had set up a massive display. 20 feet wide. Full of some of the best examples of Orchids available.

Which will be torn down before anyone sees it. Except for this photograph she took.

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She even got interviewed by an NPR reporter. No word on when that airs.

Tell her the photo has been seen and appreciated. :)

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:02:31am
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:04:15am

I am disappointed in “The Nib” I usually enjoy their cartoons but they have gone full Berner and are falsely accusing Joe Biden of being against healthcare, climate action and student debt relief. This is not helpful.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:04:49am

re: #211 Belafon

That’s actually entirely plausible. But, a better, more credible source is needed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:06:19am

re: #217 The Pie Overlord!

Trump knows this — it’s his idiot acolytes who he’s trying to convince — and they can be convinced of anything.

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Citizen K  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:06:27am

In addition to the conspiracy theorycraft that he’s pulling to fearmonger toward NK…yeah, giving the game away. They don’t care about actual people, just land.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:06:49am

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:07:44am

Why is this news? Ford allowed me to work from home after my foot surgery 3 years ago, even though contractors are usually discouraged from doing so.

They should shut down the entire iTek building. That place is like a fucking airport, and workers are set up shoulder to shoulder at long tables instead of cubicle farms.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:09:05am

re: #221 Citizen K

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In addition to the conspiracy theorycraft that he’s pulling to fearmonger toward NK…yeah, giving the game away. They don’t care about actual people, just land.

We voted for them. Your party shat on the population centers in Virginia and now you’re paying the political consequences. Maybe try a platform other than gays ew, abortion never, & tax cuts uber alles next time and you might actually compete in real Virginia rather than your Virginia of 1920.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:09:08am

re: #220 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump knows this — it’s his idiot acolytes who he’s trying to convince — and they can be convinced of anything.

You really think he knows this? I think he knows what he knows, and mere facts won’t sway him from his opinion.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:09:29am

re: #219 Dr Lizardo

That’s actually entirely plausible. But, a better, more credible source is needed.

Looks like a joke to me.

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BigPapa  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:10:26am

re: #219 Dr Lizardo

That’s actually entirely plausible. But, a better, more credible source is needed.

filed under ‘Fake But Accurate’ for the time being.

I do think Trump has CV.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:11:27am

re: #218 The Pie Overlord!

I am disappointed in “The Nib” I usually enjoy their cartoons but they have gone full Berner and are falsely accusing Joe Biden of being against healthcare, climate action and student debt relief. This is not helpful.

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There’s an unfortunately not subtle growing hostility to actual democracy in the Berner ranks. They can’t accept that Biden beat them at the polls. My hope is Biden is a great President so they learn something from the bs that Sanders and his allies have fed them about the democratic process. It’s not our fault that Bernie is a rigid ideologue.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:13:20am

Oh good.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:13:37am

re: #221 Citizen K

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In addition to the conspiracy theorycraft that he’s pulling to fearmonger toward NK…yeah, giving the game away. They don’t care about actual people, just land.

I mean, I guess he gets credit for being honest?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:14:09am

re: #225 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

You really think he knows this? I think he knows what he knows, and mere facts won’t sway him from his opinion.

And there the best description of why Trump is an awful President and why Biden will be a good one. Biden’s open minded. I’m drawn positively to him precisely because he’s not an ideologue. He’s got a core set of principles but he’s not dismissive of other people. That’s why my vote last week was easy.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:14:53am

The story about Brazilian President Bolsonaro has broken on FNC.

foxnews.com

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:15:25am
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calochortus  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:15:31am

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:15:34am

re: #214 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Tweet seems to be gone.

He seems have replaced it with this:

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:17:12am

re: #223 The Pie Overlord!

Why is this news? Ford allowed me to work from home after my foot surgery 3 years ago, even though contractors are usually discouraged from doing so.

They should shut down the entire iTek building. That place is like a fucking airport, and workers are set up shoulder to shoulder at long tables instead of cubicle farms.

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It’s news because it’s still not the norm.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:17:23am

re: #235 Belafon

So basically it’s just a theory he’s spinning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:18:00am

re: #235 Belafon

President Bolsonaro tested positive for coronavirus.

Literally days after he called the crisis a “fantasy.”

This one is for you, Mr. B:

Dear Mr. Fantasy

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:18:46am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:18:54am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

So basically it’s just a theory he’s spinning.

A joke! Not a theory.

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BigPapa  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:18:58am

re: #234 calochortus

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:21:22am

re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This one is for you, Mr. B:

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How could you forget this?

Aldo Nova - Fantasy

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:21:38am

re: #241 BigPapa

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:21:53am

re: #239 The Pie Overlord!

What could possibly go wrong??

//

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:24:20am

re: #204 Dr Lizardo

And because of Trump’s refusal to be tested for COVID-19, it’s entirely likely we - and the rest of the world - will first hear about it in a breaking news alert, something like, “President Trump rushed to Walter Reed due to respiratory failure”.

With an update 24 to 48 hours later, “President Trump in critical condition, reported to be on a ventilator”.

Will a detailed medical examination find a number of GOP Congressmen up his anus and also a set of strings apparently leading to Russia?
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:25:59am

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

How could you forget this?

how about this old 70’s radio fave?

Bad Company - Rock n Roll Fantasy

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steve_davis  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:26:02am

re: #97 Dr Lizardo

If the info in my #40 is to be believed, it’s probably way higher than 5,000.

I would be very surprised by this. I have a couple of Iranian graduate students living next door, with the wife on the phone with her relatives every freaking day (I know because I’m learning Farsi by osmosis as I sit in my apartment and work). If thousands of Iranians were dying, they would be absolutely freaking out.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:26:37am

re: #228 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

There’s an unfortunately not subtle growing hostility to actual democracy in the Berner ranks. They can’t accept that Biden beat them at the polls. My hope is Biden is a great President so they learn something from the bs that Sanders and his allies have fed them about the democratic process. It’s not our fault that Bernie is a rigid ideologue.

Based on what I’ve seen on the ground, it’s a small group of twittering berners, in no way representative of the vast majority of his supporters.

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:27:39am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

The story about Brazilian President Bolsonaro has broken on FNC.

foxnews.com

Mar-A- Corona-Lago is the filthy breeding ground epicenter.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:28:20am

re: #247 steve_davis

I would be very surprised by this. I have a couple of Iranian graduate students living next door, with the wife on the phone with her relatives every freaking day (I know because I’m learning Farsi by osmosis as I sit in my apartment and work). If thousands of Iranians were dying, they would be absolutely freaking out.

Fair enough.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:28:33am

re: #248 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Based on what I’ve seen on the ground, it’s a small group of twittering berners, in no way representative of the vast majority of his supporters.

Good to know

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:28:47am

re: #249 b.d. (Voting is not a Plot)

Mar-A- Corona-Lago is the filthy breeding ground epicenter.

Mar-a-Coronavirus. Heh.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:29:24am

re: #234 calochortus

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:29:59am

Question here for lawyer: if both Trump and Pence are temporarily out of commission being treated for coronavirus, who runs the government in their absence? It wouldn’t be Pelosi, would it? If yes, what power would she have? My guess there isn’t any law dealing with this circumstance, but IANAL.

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:30:26am

re: #254 Hecuba’s daughter

Question here for lawyer: if both Trump and Pence are temporarily out of commission being treated for coronavirus, who runs the government in their absence? It wouldn’t be Pelosi, would it? If yes, what power would she have? My guess there isn’t any law dealing with this circumstance, but IANAL.

Al Haig.

//

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:30:59am

re: #255 b.d. (Voting is not a Plot)

Al Haig.

//

He’s still in charge here!

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:31:01am

re: #253 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

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steve_davis  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:31:45am

re: #105 BlueSpotinAL

Recently I received a statement from the credit card company about categories that we spent money on, it said $5000 in restaurants last year. I was thinking to myself - “that can’t be right”. When I looked, it was counting brewery taprooms, and then “that’s about right then”.

somehow Quicken thought my rent payments were “entertainment.” Well, no, they’re really not.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:33:02am

re: #258 steve_davis

somehow Quicken thought my rent payments were “entertainment.” Well, no, they’re really not.

More entertaining than living in your car?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:33:19am

re: #247 steve_davis

I would be very surprised by this. I have a couple of Iranian graduate students living next door, with the wife on the phone with her relatives every freaking day (I know because I’m learning Farsi by osmosis as I sit in my apartment and work). If thousands of Iranians were dying, they would be absolutely freaking out.

He wasn’t saying 5,000 dead in Iran — it was reported total dead worldwide.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:34:06am

re: #260 Hecuba’s daughter

He wasn’t saying 5,000 dead in Iran — it was reported total dead worldwide.

Correct. This is the current approximate worldwide total of deaths.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:34:25am

re: #257 calochortus

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:35:10am

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

How could you forget this?

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Aldo Nova’s ‘Fantasy’ - AKA ‘Jane’ by Jefferson Starship.

(Nova got there first.)

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:35:17am

re: #105 BlueSpotinAL

Recently I received a statement from the credit card company about categories that we spent money on, it said $5000 in restaurants last year. I was thinking to myself - “that can’t be right”. When I looked, it was counting brewery taprooms, and then “that’s about right then”.

A few years ago, there was a story out that, on average, people in the metroplex eat out, which includes takeout, 11 times per week. So it wouldn’t be very hard to beat that number.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:36:59am
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steve_davis  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:38:13am

I just had a moron on a sports board (I know….that’s redundant, right?) respond to my post about how a best-case scenario is 750,000 dead with “People under 40 have nothing to worry about.”

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BigPapa  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:38:24am

I told my Mom yesterday that all our decisions need to be taken thinking of two weeks in the future. How bad could it be in two weeks, and what would you do? Do that now, today. So she agreed not to go to dinner tonight but wants to go to the DMV.

I told her to plan on my coming by but to think of what that would look like. I love to play with her puppers but I may have to quarantine from them.

I joined the local Democratic Party in HI. I’m the youngest in my Precinct. In the group email I asked any who are self quarantining to pipe up if they need runs to the grocery store or for provisions. This is what it’s going to take.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:38:24am

re: #262 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:38:48am

re: #248 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Based on what I’ve seen on the ground, it’s a small group of twittering berners, in no way representative of the vast majority of his supporters.

I hope some of that number of vast supporters who don’t approve of this speak up. Otherwise it’s a bit like the large number of Christian denominations that keep silent while others yell and scream about immigrants, atheists, gays, etc. etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:40:09am

re: #269 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I hope some of that number of vast supporters who don’t approve of this speak up. Otherwise it’s a bit like the large number of Christian denominations that keep silent while others yell and scream about immigrants, atheists, gays, etc. etc.

Remember that a lot of “Bernie supporters” are not supporters at all, they are paid trolls and ratfuckers from the GOP or Putin or both…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:40:36am

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:42:00am

re: #221 Citizen K

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In addition to the conspiracy theorycraft that he’s pulling to fearmonger toward NK…yeah, giving the game away. They don’t care about actual people, just land.

The “land mass” elite, aka “hinterland gentry,” is the heart and soul of the Republican Party. Besides bigotry and steady loss of privilege their maniacal desperation is driven by another, perhaps more important but seldom mentioned factor: Generational decay. We all know the self-made local rich guy whose children and grandchildren turned out to be drooling idiots. This is largely the result of poor reproductive choice and bad child-rearing practices (both deeply embedded in this patriarchal demographic). Falwell and Frankie Graham are choice examples.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:42:34am

re: #267 BigPapa

I joined the local Democratic Party in HI. I’m the youngest in my Precinct. In the group email I asked any who are self quarantining to pipe up if they need runs to the grocery store or for provisions. This is what it’s going to take.

Our local neighborhood listserve (not, I hasten to add, NextDoor) has featured a couple of those offers already. No one has taken them up yet, but it is a nice feeling to live in a community where people are happy to help each other.

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Interesting Times  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:43:05am

Ha:

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:43:18am

re: #269 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I hope some of that number of vast supporters who don’t approve of this speak up. Otherwise it’s a bit like the large number of Christian denominations that keep silent while others yell and scream about immigrants, atheists, gays, etc. etc.

Many (most?) Bernie supporters don’t have a big social media presence so they are unaware of how vile BernieBros are. My Bernie loving friend is occasionally on FB but, like her Bernie friends, only knows the Vote Blue No Matter Who crowd and did not know of this terrible hostility that a few can generate — probably magnified by Russian bots out there.

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Mescalero09  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:48:23am

Schools are closing in the Susquehanna Valley here in Pennsylvania. From York Lancaster through to Sunbury because of suspected exposure. My wife has today off and we are driving to Harrisburg to Costco and a dinner. Might be the last time we eat out for a while. Going to just top off some items and then come back and chill.
My younger son phoned us yesterday and was concerned (our age) for our well being. We assured him we were being careful.
There are quite a number of older and elderly in my area. Most are right wing dolts.
I was at my local supermarket yesterday, and I had a hand wipe on the rail of my cart, and I walked by an older well dressed woman who was sitting by the pharmacy. She actually glanced at my wipe on the cart and made a “uhh” noise and shook her head as if I was a fool.
I couldn’t help myself.
I looked at her and said “Bye grandma”.
Am I a bad man?

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:49:07am

JFC

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:50:04am

No, Team Trump doesn’t sound scared at all…

Best comment: ‘Imagine being proud of being this repulsive.’

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:50:11am

re: #277 Dr Lizardo

JFC

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Which makes Trump being infected even more likely.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:51:52am

re: #36 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We need some moody music:

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Ooo, Respighi!

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:52:29am

re: #274 Interesting Times

Now we need Brain Purell.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:53:59am

Mirror Link: mirror.co.uk

And Bolsonaro so far has strongly denied testing positive.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:55:22am

re: #271 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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I prefer the Quargarita

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:55:30am

re: #276 Mescalero09

Schools are closing in the Susquehanna Valley here in Pennsylvania. From York Lancaster through to Sunbury because of suspected exposure. My wife has today off and we are driving to Harrisburg to Costco and a dinner. Might be the last time we eat out for a while. Going to just top off some items and then come back and chill.
My younger son phoned us yesterday and was concerned (our age) for our well being. We assured him we were being careful.
There are quite a number of older and elderly in my area. Most are right wing dolts.
I was at my local supermarket yesterday, and I had a hand wipe on the rail of my cart, and I walked by an older well dressed woman who was sitting by the pharmacy. She actually glanced at my wipe on the cart and made a “uhh” noise and shook her head as if I was a fool.
I couldn’t help myself.
I looked at her and said “Bye grandma”.
Am I a bad man?

Yes, you are a bad man, but as someone who lived in Lancaster for several years, I applaud you.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:56:07am

re: #278 makeitstop

Donald Trump is the same bloated, beached whale he’s been his entire fucking life.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:56:20am

re: #277 Dr Lizardo

Miami Mayor tests positive for coronavirus after event with Brazil President Bolsonaro

Odds on DT being admitted to hospital without being tested?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:56:26am

Checked Facebook for the first time in a while and a fraternity brother was spouting the “Obama screwed up Swine Flu response” talking point. I replied that:
1. That’s deflection. Even if Obama messed up that doesn’t excuse Trump ineptness.
2. Go find a good set of facts on the Swine Flu response, read them, and then get back to me.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:57:09am

re: #286 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Odds on DT being admitted to hospital without being tested?

I still think he’s been tested. Possibly without him knowing about it.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:57:18am

President Pelosi keeps sounding better and better to me.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:58:58am

re: #289 Ace Rothstein

President Pelosi keeps sounding better and better to me.

The issue is dumb fuck Trump being the vector that takes out most of the leadership at the federal level.

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jeffreyw  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:59:01am

re: #283 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I prefer the Quargarita

Yes! The 64 oz size!

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:59:08am

re: #269 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I hope some of that number of vast supporters who don’t approve of this speak up. Otherwise it’s a bit like the large number of Christian denominations that keep silent while others yell and scream about immigrants, atheists, gays, etc. etc.

I don’t really care whether they outshout the twitterati on Bernie, I care if they VOTE for Biden. And judging by the ones I’ve encountered, I expect they will.

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Mescalero09  Mar 13, 2020 • 8:59:44am

re: #284 calochortus

Where I live makes Lancaster look like a liberal stronghold.
Off to the future. bbl

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:00:05am

when to publix for a chicken
figured we needed to inoculate ourselves with some soup
no poultry. zero.
wow what people took and what they left behind.

so we’ll be having a corned beef instead.
it’s in the crock pot slooooowwww cooking right now

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:02:10am

re: #268 calochortus

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lizardofid  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:04:14am

The largest expo of Printing and packaging equipment in the world, DRUPA, is held every four years at the Messe in Dusseldorf Germany. It was scheduled for June. I has just been pushed to April of 2021.

Link

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:04:17am

re: #276 Mescalero09

Schools are closing in the Susquehanna Valley here in Pennsylvania. From York Lancaster through to Sunbury because of suspected exposure. My wife has today off and we are driving to Harrisburg to Costco and a dinner. Might be the last time we eat out for a while. Going to just top off some items and then come back and chill.
My younger son phoned us yesterday and was concerned (our age) for our well being. We assured him we were being careful.
There are quite a number of older and elderly in my area. Most are right wing dolts.
I was at my local supermarket yesterday, and I had a hand wipe on the rail of my cart, and I walked by an older well dressed woman who was sitting by the pharmacy. She actually glanced at my wipe on the cart and made a “uhh” noise and shook her head as if I was a fool.
I couldn’t help myself.
I looked at her and said “Bye grandma”.
Am I a bad man?

Hope it shocks some sense into her.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:04:37am

re: #155 Sir John Barron

Yeah but, but, Obama swine flu and this coronavirus is a hoax turn the machines back on!!!!

hoaxwise, i wonder how actual individual R’s (ok maga’s) are going to react when they themselves get infected

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:04:59am

Yesterday, based on the tweet from the woman who met an elderly couple at a Walmart parking lot and bought food for them, my wife and I wrote up a document on how to use the walmart website to order food. Via people I know who know people here in Rockwall, it is going to get posted on various emergency sites here in town. Hopefully it will help a few people get stuff they need.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:05:49am

re: #295 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:05:52am

Speculation grows…

I’ve been in the ‘Trump has COVID-19’ camp for days.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:05:59am

Ha!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:06:31am

re: #287 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Checked Facebook for the first time in a while and a fraternity brother was spouting the “Obama screwed up Swine Flu response” talking point. I replied that:
1. That’s deflection. Even if Obama messed up that doesn’t excuse Trump ineptness.
2. Go find a good set of facts on the Swine Flu response, read them, and then get back to me.

It’s amazing, isn’t it, how the MAGAs will just instantly regurgitate whatever DJT or Faux tells them without a moment of thought.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:06:45am

re: #288 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I still think he’s been tested. Possibly without him knowing about it.

Can one get the test without knowing about it? I think if someone shoved a swap down my throat (or into my sinuses), I’d notice.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:07:16am

re: #302 The Pie Overlord!

Ha!

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Do they have enough people to guard the border? //

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:08:39am

Usually at this time of year (just before Passover but not TOO CLOSE) Z & I like to take a couple days off to visit Toronto. That is not happening.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:08:56am

If we ever get our shit together in terms of a response (which will most likely come from the states not the fed), and manage to beat current expectations for deaths and spread of the virus, the kicker will be Trump trying to take all the credit, while the MAGAs currently talking about media hysteria, it’s just the flu, Democrats politicizing the pandemic, etc., will immediately and smoothly pivot to how Trump saved us from the most dangerous infectious disease outbreak in more than 100 years.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:09:23am

Frightening thread.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:10:08am

off to play what could be my last paid gig for some months: a hotel party (around 90 guests and staff)

I suggested that instead of performing as we usually do in the dining room, we position ourselves outside the restrooms and play 20-second songs every time someone washes their hands…

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lizardofid  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:12:01am

re: #305 Belafon

Do they have enough people to guard the border? //

Build a wall! ///

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:13:04am

re: #300 calochortus

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:13:10am

Brutal. Also probably very accurate.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:14:42am

So, the #democrathoax is now a national emergency.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:18:57am

We had search and rescue training last night. One of our CERT members is a retired physician. As I’ve mentioned before, almost all of the CERT group is conservative, and she is no exception. Being a physician, at least she knows covid-19 is real, but last night she was arguing against mass testing. There’s just still some blinders on then even if they are smarter than the average person.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:19:27am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

So, the #democrathoax is now a national emergency.

Has there finally been a formal declaration?

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:19:42am

re: #313 Dr. Matt

So, the #democrathoax is now a national emergency.

Our master plan is working out splendidly.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:21:13am

Rush led off his show with more whataboutism about Obama and swine flu.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:22:08am

Off to do something constructive-which will not include listening to/watching 24/7 COVID-19 coverage. There are cooking shows to watch, music to listen to and some cleaning and mending to keep me busy for a while.

BBL

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:23:20am

Dear Leader to address the nation at 3:00 EST. Because all his other statements have worked out so well.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:24:20am

re: #315 Eclectic Cyborg

Has there finally been a formal declaration?

Trump is expected to announce it this afternoon, from what I’ve read.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:25:56am
Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, who met and dined with President Donald Trump at his Florida resort over the weekend, tested negative for the new coronavirus, his official Facebook page announced Friday.

His son, Eduardo Bolsonaro, who has shared updates about the Brazilian leader’s coronavirus testing, also said that the results came back negative.

“Result of Jair Bolsonaro @jairbolsonaro for coronavirus it was NEGATIVE,” Eduardo Bolsonaro said, a translation of his tweet shows.

cnbc.com

Question is, is Bolsonaro being completely honest?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:26:30am

re: #320 makeitstop

Trump is expected to announce it this afternoon, from what I’ve read.

What chance the market rallies based on that expectation and Trump’s announcement is one word, “Psyche!”
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:27:33am

re: #314 Belafon

We had search and rescue training last night. One of our CERT members is a retired physician. As I’ve mentioned before, almost all of the CERT group is conservative, and she is no exception. Being a physician, at least she knows covid-19 is real, but last night she was arguing against mass testing. There’s just still some blinders on then even if they are smarter than the average person.

What type of testing did she favor? I could see limiting the testing to (1) people with symptoms and (2) people in direct contact with someone who tested positive.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:27:41am

re: #309 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

off to play what could be my last paid gig for some months: a hotel party (around 90 guests and staff)

I suggested that instead of performing as we usually do in the dining room, we position ourselves outside the restrooms and play 20-second songs every time someone washes their hands…

I’ve got one on tap at a club in NYC tomorrow night, and one for a restaurant out here on LI a week from today. I got word last night that another corporate thing out in Brooklyn has been canceled.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they both canceled at this point, although the club gig looks like it’s still on for now. And if people don’t make reservations at the restaurant, they probably won’t want to shell out money for a band.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:28:15am

re: #321 Dr Lizardo

cnbc.com

Question is, is Bolsonaro being completely honest?

Well, we know someone in his cabinet tested positive. The Miami mayor tested positive and was in contact with Bolsinaro (probably with the other member of the delegation that tested positive). Given that Bolsinaro is on record as calling this a fantasy and he’s very much a Trump persona, I think there is a lot of incentive to lie.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:28:27am
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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:28:29am

re: #317 Ace Rothstein

Rush led off his show with more whataboutism about Obama and swine flu.

He doesn’t really have cancer, does he?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:28:55am

re: #301 makeitstop

Speculation grows…

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I’ve been in the ‘Trump has COVID-19’ camp for days.

took my mom to see her neurologist this AM
his first words “did you see trump on tv? he looked terrible”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:29:14am

re: #326 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“The King and The Land are One!”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:29:45am

re: #303 Sir John Barron

It’s amazing, isn’t it, how the MAGAs will just instantly regurgitate whatever DJT or Faux tells them without a moment of thought.

that’s why their model works. idiot tested. results guaranteed.

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VegasGolfer  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:30:08am

Well I’m assuming the market is up today since there isn’t second by second posting of how bad it’s doing?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:30:39am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:31:09am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:31:34am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:32:07am

re: #326 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

This is so stupid. But that’s how every Trump displays the electoral map. It’s always how many acres went red, rather than how many people.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:32:15am

re: #331 VegasGolfer

Well I’m assuming the market is up today since there isn’t second by second posting of how bad it’s doing?

All of them up about 1.5% as of 12:30pm Eastern time. I saw a blurp as well that Bitcoin lost 30% of it’s value this week.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:32:20am

re: #331 VegasGolfer

Well I’m assuming the market is up today since there isn’t second by second posting of how bad it’s doing?

It’s all over the place. Was up at least 700, I saw it around +84, and it’s now around +370.

CNN’s chyron can’t keep up.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:32:30am

The dead cat bounce in progress. Crude oil and Russell 2000 is back in the red.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:32:42am

Who would be surprised if he used the Stafford Act to put more money into the stupid goddamn wall?

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Teukka  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:35:05am

So this happened…

The stuff people forget in the store…
The above is a one-litre bottle of Tullamore Dew with a good deciliter of the sauce left.
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:35:26am

re: #315 Eclectic Cyborg

Has there finally been a formal declaration?

what’s the rush?
it’s only been two months since the first US case…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:36:18am

re: #319 Ace Rothstein

Dear Leader to address the nation at 3:00 EST. Because all his other statements have worked out so well.

biden should be out there at 3:30

‘i see the president has adopted everything i said yesterday’

but cool joe wouldnt

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:37:15am

My new concern. The Senate races.
Turning senate seats blue is going to require turnout. Reduction in candidates campaign events favor the incumbents. Voter registration activities will be reduced virus concerns and social distancing measures. GOP run states reduction in polling places, causing massive delays/wait times and long lines will also be a further impediment to turnout during early voting and on election day.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:37:31am

re: #342 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

biden should be out there at 3:30

‘i see the president has adopted everything i said yesterday’

but cool joe wouldnt

Warren can pop up at 3:30pm to reiterate what the House should send to the Senate as a relief bill.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:37:43am

re: #329 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

“The King and The Land are One!”

Merlin: ‘speak the words…’

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:38:16am

re: #343 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

My new concern. The Senate races.
Turning senate seats blue is going to require turnout. Reduction in candidates campaign events favor the incumbents. Voter registration activities will be reduced virus concerns and social distancing measures. GOP run states reduction in polling places, causing massive delays/wait times and long lines will also be a further impediment to turnout during early voting and on election day.

Or they send in the police to break up long lines to vote since that’s too many people gathered in one spot.
////

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:38:42am

re: #335 Hecuba’s daughter

This is so stupid. But that’s how every Trump displays the electoral map. It’s always how many acres went red, rather than how many people.

one citizen one vote
not one acre one vote

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:38:46am

re: #343 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Push voting by mail. HARD.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:39:40am

re: #278 makeitstop

No, Team Trump doesn’t sound scared at all…

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Best comment: ‘Imagine being proud of being this repulsive.’

Imagine when trump, who refuses to be tested, becomes an actual rotting corpse.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:40:01am

re: #325 Mike Lamb

Well, we know someone in his cabinet tested positive. The Miami mayor tested positive and was in contact with Bolsinaro (probably with the other member of the delegation that tested positive). Given that Bolsinaro is on record as calling this a fantasy and he’s very much a Trump persona, I think there is a lot of incentive to lie.

Headline in three weeks - “Brazilian President Dies From Flu Complications”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:41:19am

re: #348 Eclectic Cyborg

Push voting by mail. HARD.

today’s electoral-vote.com

Some politicians, however, are taking a slightly longer view; thinking less about this week and this month, and more about what happens when people try to cast their ballots in November. In particular, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), for whom election security and ballot access have always been something of a crusade, is thinking in this way. He has filed a pair of bills in the Senate, one that would provide $500 million to states to help cope with voting-related disruptions caused by COVID-19, and another that would make voting-by-mail nationwide and mandatory under certain circumstances.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:41:23am

Well, the Florida GOP will be fund raising off of this

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:41:48am

re: #332 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

With regard to quarantines, wouldn’t it just be easier to quarantine the elderly and the vulnerable? That seems to be approach the Swiss are going with.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:42:07am

re: #350 Dr Lizardo

Headline in three weeks - “Brazilian President Dies From Flu Complications”

Memorable Movie Deaths #2: Monty Python’s The Meaning Of Life: The Salmon Mousse!

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:42:44am

re: #334 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

One year? Are they expecting the outbreak to last that long?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:43:40am

re: #343 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

My new concern. The Senate races.
Turning senate seats blue is going to require turnout. Reduction in candidates campaign events favor the incumbents. Voter registration activities will be reduced virus concerns and social distancing measures. GOP run states reduction in polling places, causing massive delays/wait times and long lines will also be a further impediment to turnout during early voting and on election day.

Phone banking. Even more effective than “events.”

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:43:40am

re: #343 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Call me crazy. I worry if the election will happen on schedule. Get your mail ballots folks. We are assuming and hoping this burns out in a couple months. But nobody knows, and that’s ignoring unexpected knock on events.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:43:51am

re: #355 Dr Lizardo

One year? Are they expecting the outbreak to last that long?

Well most medical organizations believe a vaccine won’t be widely available until then at the earliest.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:44:33am

re: #348 Eclectic Cyborg

Push voting by mail. HARD.

Mail.absentee voting is different in every state. Some seriously restricted. Florida it’s available to all, so that’s a plus for the Presidential election

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:45:11am

“Louisiana has postponed its presidential primaries set for next month, becoming the first state to take the step as fears about the coronavirus outbreak spread,” CNBC reports.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:45:12am

re: #323 Hecuba’s daughter

What type of testing did she favor? I could see limiting the testing to (1) people with symptoms and (2) people in direct contact with someone who tested positive.

I’m assuming it’s those. I tend not to get in too many arguments with them.

What concerns me, though, is that we’re not going to “flatten the curve” without testing as many people as possible. By the time you’re testing for symptoms, they’ve already infected many others when they could have been quarantined. And I just don’t think she gets that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:45:28am

re: #352 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Well, the Florida GOP will be fund raising off of this

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:46:31am

In the meantime, we’re going to have whole ‘burbs going up in massive, super-intense conflagrations fed by huge stockpiles of alcohol-based hand sanitizer and toilet paper, with the occasional million round ammunition hoard cooking off to spread the flames.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:47:09am

re: #358 Eclectic Cyborg

Well most medical organizations believe a vaccine won’t be widely available until then at the earliest.

Meanwhile, many countries in Europe are doing lockdown measures, such as Italy. I really don’t think Italy’s economy will survive a one-year lockdown….not to mention the Czech economy.

And I have a question I’d like to ask some politicians, here and around the world. Namely, what’s Plan B if your measures don’t work? What then? Do they just say, “Fuck it, let ‘er rip!” or what?

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:48:26am

re: #343 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

My new concern. The Senate races.
Turning senate seats blue is going to require turnout. Reduction in candidates campaign events favor the incumbents. Voter registration activities will be reduced virus concerns and social distancing measures. GOP run states reduction in polling places, causing massive delays/wait times and long lines will also be a further impediment to turnout during early voting and on election day.

We still have time. We’re going to have to do some things on a more compressed time scale, but it can be done.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:49:05am

single minded ghouls

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin told CNBC that the coronavirus pandemic presents “a great investment opportunity,” insisting that global markets spooked by the public health crisis will rebound eventually.

Said Mnuchin: “This is a short-term issue. It may be a couple of months, but we’re going to get through this, and the economy will be stronger than ever.”

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Teukka  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:49:34am

In Swedish SARS-CoV-2/CoVID-19 news… Two major hospitals in the county, having earlier been in “stabsläge” (first degree of incident preparedness), have entered “förstärkningsläge” (second degree of incident preparedness). Only degree left is “katastrofläge”, which is reserved for stuff like mass casuality incidents on the order of magnitude of the Boxing day tsunami…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:50:32am

I used to spend the day at the local branch when I stopped going to school. Surprisingly, in the late 70’s no one questioned a teenager reading in the library during school hours

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Teukka  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:51:43am

re: #367 Teukka

In Swedish SARS-CoV-2/CoVID-19 news… Two major hospitals in the county, having earlier been in “stabsläge” (first degree of incident preparedness), have entered “förstärkningsläge” (second degree of incident preparedness). Only degree left is “katastrofläge”, which is reserved for stuff like mass casuality incidents on the order of magnitude of the Boxing day tsunami…

Hospitals in question are DS and SöS.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:52:20am

re: #366 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

single minded ghouls

There was a suggestion in The Telegraph in an opinion piece that it might just be better for all concerned to simply let nature take its course. After all, the piece noted, it’s largely the elderly and the infirm who would be most affected by COVID-19, and there would likely be some benefit in it as well, chiefly, saving money when those populations die off.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:54:16am

maybe

It has taken a good deal longer than it should have, but Americans have now seen the con man behind the curtain. The president, enraged for having been unmasked, will become more desperate, more embittered, more unhinged. He knows nothing will be the same. His administration may stagger on, but it will be only a hollow shell. The Trump presidency is over.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:56:02am

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

There was a suggestion in The Telegraph in an opinion piece that it might just be better for all concerned to simply let nature take its course. After all, the piece noted, it’s largely the elderly and the infirm who would be most affected by COVID-19, and there would likely be some benefit in it as well, chiefly, saving money when those populations die off.

So some are already headed into “One death is a tragedy, a million deaths a statistic.” turf I see.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:56:24am

re: #371 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

maybe

I’ll believe it when I see it. His base still worships him and accepts his word as gospel.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:56:33am

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

There was a suggestion in The Telegraph in an opinion piece that it might just be better for all concerned to simply let nature take its course. After all, the piece noted, it’s largely the elderly and the infirm who would be most affected by COVID-19, and there would likely be some benefit in it as well, chiefly, saving money when those populations die off.

triage is important and appropriate.
it’s not a ‘let’s not bother’ first response.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:57:58am

LOL, we’re boned here in Czech Republic:

Although Prime Minister Andrej Babis (YES) announced on Thursday with great fanfare that Prague has opened new places since Friday where people can get tested for coronavirus, they still do not work and in fact, failed completely. The news brings the story of Mr. P., who tried Friday to get tested at the Central Military Hospital in Prague (UV), but in vain. It has been proven that he has, in fact, come into contact with other infected individuals.

Doctors sent the man with the symptoms home, and nobody was concerned about him going by public transport.

Original, in Czech: novinky.cz

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:58:54am

re: #365 Belafon

We still have time. We’re going to have to do some things on a more compressed time scale, but it can be done.

That depends on voter registration deadlines in various states

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 9:58:57am

re: #372 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So some are already headed into “One death is a tragedy, a million deaths a statistic.” turf I see.

That was the first quote that came to mind.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:00:32am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:02:31am

re: #366 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

single minded ghouls

The Black Death jump-started the Renaissance by essentially doubling per capita wealth in Europe. It was great, if you weren’t among the half that was eliminated.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:02:38am

re: #373 Hecuba’s daughter

I’ll believe it when I see it. His base still worships him and accepts his word as gospel.

agreed.

nevertheless, i think this cements his historical legacy.
unprepared, incapable, incompetent

the job’s easy (more or less) when nothing goes wrong // 1/2

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danarchy  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:03:19am

re: #361 Belafon

I’m assuming it’s those. I tend not to get in too many arguments with them.

What concerns me, though, is that we’re not going to “flatten the curve” without testing as many people as possible. By the time you’re testing for symptoms, they’ve already infected many others when they could have been quarantined. And I just don’t think she gets that.

I have heard the tests have a high false positive rate among asymptomatic individuals. Which is why they do multiple tests.

This study found up to 50% of asymptomatic individuals may be false positives. This probably argues we need better testing, but also large scale testing of healthy individuals may do more harm than good.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:03:57am

re: #378 gocart mozart

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Conservatives are reaching the conclusion that democracy must be jettisoned in favor of remaining in (or regaining) power.

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BeachDem  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:03:58am

re: #352 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Well, the Florida GOP will be fund raising off of this

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For what it’s worth…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:05:04am

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

There was a suggestion in The Telegraph in an opinion piece that it might just be better for all concerned to simply let nature take its course. After all, the piece noted, it’s largely the elderly and the infirm who would be most affected by COVID-19, and there would likely be some benefit in it as well, chiefly, saving money when those populations die off.

It seems that Republicans and the greed culture demographic will be disproportionately affected; indeed, including Trump’s inner circle; so maybe they are on to something.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:06:49am

re: #379 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Black Death jump-started the Renaissance by essentially doubling per capita wealth in Europe. It was great, if you weren’t among the half that was eliminated.

it isnt so much that they think this way; we’ve always known that
whether they are self aware or not, it’s that they’re just brazenly saying it for all to hear

—-
(good thing you got a model project to keep you occupied)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:07:17am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:07:25am

re: #379 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Black Death jump-started the Renaissance by essentially doubling per capita wealth in Europe. It was great, if you weren’t among the half that was eliminated.

The aftermath of the Black Death in Europe was a little over a century of prosperity and peace. Now, that’s not saying that Europe didn’t get its hair mussed, ya know, with 40% to 60% of its population wiped out, but if you were in that lucky half that survived, there were considerable improvements in your living standard at that time.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:09:54am

re: #386 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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So now we have an administration that is incapable of doing two things at once?

Weren’t they also busy planning the murder via missile of a Iranian general too?
/// hmmph

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:11:14am

On a family note. Talked to my sister last night. She lives in one of those north lest coast states. Se just got hired full time by a large global tech company. $20K raise, $5K signing bonus. This is while they’ve already sent her home to work.

Oh, and she thinks she may now be recovering from a mild case of coronavirus. Last week the doctor, after phone consultation, sent her for testing for strep throat.

And, her and husband are getting ready to close on selling their house, while also breaking ground on their new home build. Which, as you can imagine, they’re starting to wonder how the current situation might effect access to workers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:11:57am

re: #386 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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And that’s why he fired the pandemic preparedness unit a couple years earlier? They always have excuses.

If he had been a real president — like Clinton or even Nixon — he would have shown his leadership by taking actions earlier and ignoring the impeachment.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:12:38am

re: #381 danarchy

I have heard the tests have a high false positive rate among asymptomatic individuals. Which is why they do multiple tests.

This study found up to 50% of asymptomatic individuals may be false positives. This probably argues we need better testing, but also large scale testing of healthy individuals may do more harm than good.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Sometimes, it’s bad when a false positive occurs, and there are times when it’s ok. When your spam filter checks your email, it’s better to have fewer false positives. In this case, if we had an adequate system such as paid sick leave, wouldn’t it be better to have false positives stay at home than to have real positives running around?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:13:11am

re: #390 Hecuba’s daughter

And that’s what he fired the pandemic preparedness unit a couple years earlier? They always have excuses.

If he had been a real president — like Clinton or even Nixon — he would have shown his leadership by taking actions earlier and ignoring the impeachment.

If he had been a real President he never would have been impeached in the first place.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:13:46am

re: #383 BeachDem

For what it’s worth…

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Cory Booker was once found in a home that was on fire.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:14:01am

re: #386 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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It’s called being able to chew gum and walk at the same time. Previous presidents have done it. The babying this fuckup is nauseating.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:15:35am

re: #386 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:16:40am

re: #390 Hecuba’s daughter

And that’s why he fired the pandemic preparedness unit a couple years earlier? They always have excuses.

If he had been a real president — like Clinton or even Nixon — he would have shown his leadership by taking actions earlier and ignoring the impeachment.

…had a competent team around him, and trusted and relied on them

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Jay C  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:17:00am

re: #388 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So now we have an administration that is incapable of doing two things at once?

Weren’t they also busy planning the murder via missile of a Iranian general too?
/// hmmph

Well, as far as the “President” is concerned, yes: outside of tweeting while shitting, Trump’s attention span (in both time and space) for doing simultaneous tasking probably really IS that limited.

But SRSLY: just another in the panoply of lame excuses that this sad-sack Administration keeps trotting out: the House impeached the President: not the pandemic-response division of the CDC: that’s on the Trump gang.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:17:11am

re: #395 Belafon

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And the bastards accused him of waging the dog.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:18:17am

re: #397 Jay C

Well, as far as the “President” is concerned, yes: outside of tweeting while shitting, Trump’s attention span (in both time and space) for doing simultaneous tasking probably really IS that limited.

But SRSLY: just another in the panoply of lame excuses that this sad-sack Administration keeps trotting out: the House impeached the President: not the pandemic-response division of the CDC: that’s on the Trump gang.

The buck stops anywhere but here.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:18:24am

re: #386 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:18:28am

re: #395 Belafon

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clinton didnt have to spend all that time tweeting and watching fox

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:20:14am

Also, when was Trump’s impeachment trial over? Like 17 years ago?

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Jay C  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:21:09am

re: #401 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Wait: are we talking “Clinton” (as in President Bill) - or Obama?

Actually, I think both were accused by the Usual Gang Of Hacks of “wagging the dog” to try to divert attention away from various “scandals” (of GOP making, but never mind…..)

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:21:49am

re: #397 Jay C

Well, as far as the “President” is concerned, yes: outside of tweeting while shitting, Trump’s attention span (in both time and space) for doing simultaneous tasking probably really IS that limited.

But SRSLY: just another in the panoply of lame excuses that this sad-sack Administration keeps trotting out: the House impeached the President: not the pandemic-response division of the CDC: that’s on the Trump gang.

see re: #99 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

especially

…”Some 63 million Americans voted for a man who wanted to smash the system to smithereens, either because they felt it wasn’t doing enough for them or because breaking glass just feels so primitively satisfying

…Now, it turns out, a functioning government is a good thing to have when a global pandemic arrives on your shores.

…better to trust people who have dedicated their lives to being public servants than trashing them in favor of a one-man, megalomaniacal savior…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:22:11am

re: #401 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

clinton didnt have to spend all that time tweeting and watching fox

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Or doing rallies where he trashed the process to cheering crowds.

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danarchy  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:22:32am

re: #391 Belafon

Sometimes, it’s bad when a false positive occurs, and there are times when it’s ok. When your spam filter checks your email, it’s better to have fewer false positives. In this case, if we had an adequate system such as paid sick leave, wouldn’t it be better to have false positives stay at home than to have real positives running around?

Not sure that’s the case with a rate that high you could be sending half the country into unnecessary quarantine. We are already doing all the things recommended for flattening the curve. Limiting large public events, closing schools having those who can work from home, social distancing etc.

There is no cure so doctors are just treating the symptoms whether you have a positive test or not.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:22:58am

re: #402 Belafon

Also, when was Trump’s impeachment trial over? Like 17 years ago?

Feels like it.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:23:59am

re: #403 Jay C

Wait: are we talking “Clinton” (as in President Bill) - or Obama?

Actually, I think both were accused by the Usual Gang Of Hacks of “wagging the dog” to try to divert attention away from various “scandals” (of GOP making, but never mind…..)

yes i meant president Bill, who, during the impeachment still was able to go to work every day and didnt have his calendar clogged with ‘exec time’ (ie tweeting) bullshit

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:27:59am

re: #388 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So now we have an administration that is incapable of doing two things at once?

Weren’t they also busy planning the murder via missile of a Iranian general too?
/// hmmph

Yeah, walking, talking and chewing gum is sort of a requisite of being president.

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John Hughes  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:38:20am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Yep….upthread I posted a photo of the Aussie in question. He’s standing right next to Ivanka, and I mean shoulder-to-shoulder.

How else do you think he caught it?

The “Mar-a-lago flu”.

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John Hughes  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:43:05am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It took nothing less than the threat of massive civilian casualties at the outset of WW2 to get Great Britain to implement its National Health Service, which Churchill sought to abolish after the war until it turned out to be too popular to be don away with.

Nope. The NHS was created after the war, it was a major part of the Labour party manifesto.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2020 • 10:51:50am

re: #402 Belafon

Also, when was Trump’s impeachment trial over? Like 17 years ago?

It sure feels like it, doesn’t it?

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PrairieQueen  Mar 13, 2020 • 11:33:19am

re: #352 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Here’s my idea of what happened (totally fictitious):

Andrew, being an African America, was responsible to supply drugs to the party (that’s where all of America’s drugs come from) where Katy Perry and Hillary Clinton were going to appear, and they were all (all the Dems in attendance) going to partake in stabbing effigy cakes and eating human flesh, probably from aborted full term babies and elderly Christians, since they’re all Satanists and closeted lesbians.

And the coronavrius is a lie to make the dear President look bad, since it can be cured with either Jim Bakker’s or Alex Jones’ super secret colloidal silver, but the librul FDA and other deep state commissions want it off the market to watch the population diminish (because they hate life and God) and create more dependency on government.

And for the record, I only made up about 10% of that. The rest I’ve heard stated as fact, labeled under “things the Democrats don’t want you to know,” or “things Tucker Carlson told me,” or “The News,” meaning Fox.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 13, 2020 • 11:41:51am

re: #331 VegasGolfer

Well I’m assuming the market is up today since there isn’t second by second posting of how bad it’s doing?

21,697.20 496.58 (2.34%)

Better then the last few days


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