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Photographs from around the world on the coronavirus, including The Netherlands, the Czech Republic, New York City, and Germany.
There is a surgical mask on the Fearless Girl statute in front of the Stock Exchange.
The Olympic Flame arrived in Japan.
Italy has now surpassed China in the death toll from covid19. UK warns mortality rate will be quite high.
re: #1 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
CL’ed downstairs:
If I sign up, that makes me a student, correct? /s
I presume they would still make me pay.
Regarding the numbers out of China - second hand via my Spouse - Pol at 4chan has a new theory. Of course they do. But someone there claims to have run the numbers of their phone service subscribers. Since they use their smart phones for all sorts of business transactions and if there’s no activity in a few weeks, the account is presumed inactive due to probable death of account holder. The Pol Critter is claiming that there are millions of these inactive accounts now. And therefore, the official China number is grossly understated and that we’re looking at an even bigger catastrophe than we think we are. I don’t know whether to roll my eyes or check to see if there’s any validity to this. Much as I am not a fan of Pol, sometimes they get it right.
re: #5 LadyBehir
Regarding the numbers out of China - second hand via my Spouse - Pol at 4chan has a new theory. Of course they do. But someone there claims to have run the numbers of their phone service subscribers. Since they use their smart phones for all sorts of business transactions and if there’s no activity in a few weeks, the account is presumed inactive due to probable death of account holder. The Pol Critter is claiming that there are millions of these inactive accounts now. And therefore, the official China number is grossly understated and that we’re looking at an even bigger catastrophe than we think we are. I don’t know whether to roll my eyes or check to see if there’s any validity to this. Much as I am not a fan of Pol, sometimes they get it right.
I’m not sure when /pol ever gets it right, other than blind chance.
How would someone on /pol have access to Chinese records of millions of inactive accounts in China? Why wouldn’t an inactive account also mean someone might be hospitalised for a different reason, travelling, not even a business account at all, &c.
re: #5 LadyBehir
Ordinarily, I’d just roll my eyes but this is the PRC. All I have to do is remember the great leap forward and the various famines. Yeah, it is _just_ plausible.
North Korea could be even more horrific.
re: #4 Anymouse 🌹🏡
If I sign up, that makes me a student, correct? /s
I presume they would still make me pay.
You need a student email address, unfortunately.
re: #5 LadyBehir
Regarding the numbers out of China - second hand via my Spouse - Pol at 4chan has a new theory. Of course they do. But someone there claims to have run the numbers of their phone service subscribers. Since they use their smart phones for all sorts of business transactions and if there’s no activity in a few weeks, the account is presumed inactive due to probable death of account holder. The Pol Critter is claiming that there are millions of these inactive accounts now. And therefore, the official China number is grossly understated and that we’re looking at an even bigger catastrophe than we think we are. I don’t know whether to roll my eyes or check to see if there’s any validity to this. Much as I am not a fan of Pol, sometimes they get it right.
Pol at 4chan has millions of Chinese subscribers? Presumed dead after a few weeks?
I know. I am highly skeptical. But they were one of the first sources he told me about so I heard about Wuhan. Then I started looking for more reputable sites and found them. There is something hinky about there only being 3255 deaths. In a country as populous as China they’d shut down a quarter or more of the country?
re: #8 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
You need a student email address, unfortunately.
anymouse@studentemailaddress.org
re: #11 LadyBehir
I know. I am highly skeptical. But they were one of the first sources he told me about so I heard about Wuhan. Then I started looking for more reputable sites and found them. There is something hinky about there only being 3255 deaths. In a country as populous as China they’d shut down a quarter or more of the country?
It’s hard to believe some random 4chan outsider would have access to this information. Alternative theory, if true, government deliberately deactivated accounts because it wasn’t happy with information they couldn’t control — the people are alive, their phones aren’t.
Most recent doubling time in days. Link to excel here.
drive.google.com
Worldometer does a better job of most of this, but doesn’t do doubling (yet), which tells you how things are changing and lets you ‘guess’ where things may be, assuming you consider the population of the places you are comparing. Guessing may be better on an individual basis in regards to herd/mob behavior. If/when the US has 100k+ cases, or 200k, etc. the psychological impact will not be small.
Below compares Italy, US, Germany on a per capita (cases per million) and % fatality per confirmed cases. How much of this is due to differences in testing, treatment regimes, stage of epidemic, age of population, etc confounds a simple analysis. In a week of bad news, at least the US is consistently closer to Germany’s fatality numbers than Italy. This will unfortunately likely change as the system becomes overwhelmed in Germany and here.
re: #11 LadyBehir
I know. I am highly skeptical. But they were one of the first sources he told me about so I heard about Wuhan. Then I started looking for more reputable sites and found them. There is something hinky about there only being 3255 deaths. In a country as populous as China they’d shut down a quarter or more of the country?
I don’t believe the Chinese numbers. I also don’t believe millions.
Okay, after mucking about 4chan to find out where they got that claim about cell phone accounts being dropped equalling a bunch of dead people, it lead to wingnut libertarian conspiracy theory site ZeroHedge.
Beijing’s Claim Of No New Infections Contradicts Reality On The Ground
Long day…
We woke up early this morning and drove out to Lancaster County PA to lay my sister to rest. It was a small service, with 2 of my sister’s four kids (one son is severely immuno-compromised and unable to attend, and her only daughter passed away three years ago), and my remaining siblings (4 sisters, 3 older, one younger) and their families. My heart went out to my sisters. So much pain. We were once 9 in number, now we are 5. The reminiscences in the service were heart-rending, very emotional. It was difficult in that I wanted to hug everyone but couldn’t.
My sister was laid to rest on a hillside in farm country, on what turned out to be a beautiful day. That made it a little easier, seeing the sun break through the clouds. After the burial was done we all went back to the church for a lunch and told stories and laughed. When my wife and I got ready to leave, my sisters each came up and hugged me. I did need those hugs, but I really hope that we all survive them.
Driving back home into New York was surreal. My wife noticed Cuomo’s shutdown order while we were on the road in Pennsylvania, and the normally-clogged highways of Staten Island and Brooklyn (trust me, they’re always jammed) were nearly deserted by comparison, even by choke points like JFK. It’s good to see that people are taking this seriously and staying off the roads.
Once back on Long Island, we stopped at my BiL’s to pick up the dog, where we heard the news that someone in Pence’s office had tested positive for COVID-19. My first reaction was that it was another shiny object tossed out to the media to distract from the horrible response to the pandemic. They had CNN on, and sure enough it was all that Wolf Blitzer was talking about for most of the show that I saw. We’re in some hell of a spot in this country, where all trust and confidence in the government has been utterly squandered.
The only other story that even got a mention was the catastrophic projection of next week’s unemployment numbers. This will the final nail in the coffin for Trump’s reelection chances. One by one, all the things he’s claimed as proof of a great presidency have been shattered. And his reaction to these circumstances in the press briefings that he’s not smart enough to stay away from will continue to highlights just how far over his head he is, and always has been.
Trump is, electorally speaking, a dead man walking. All the tough talk and attempted spin is falling flat, and everybody - even the Red Hats - can see it. There is no saving this presidency, and Trump may be the only person in the country who doesn’t realize it yet.
Goin’ to bed. Have a good night, Lizards. Everyone stay safe.
re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🏡
ZeroHedge got their stuff from pulling tweets and from the Epoch Times, so that’s reliable.
They report the virus like this:
The CCP virus, commonly known as the novel coronavirus, first emerged in Wuhan in December 2019.
Calling All People Who Sew And Make: You Can Help Make Masks For 2020 Healthcare Worker PPE Shortage via @forbes https://t.co/pJovtc3A9L
— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) March 21, 2020
“…Additional Resources for Open Source or Volunteer COVID-19 Projects:
One of my favorite how-to sites is Instructables. The DIY Cloth Face Mask has almost 100,000 views. It is a step-by-step instruction for those who need it. Kudos to ashevillejm.
In 2006, CDC released a Simple Respiratory Mask design using heavyweight t-shirts in its Emerging Infectious Diseases journal. More of an academic post, but some ideas in it.
A Facebook group was formed last week: Open Source COVID19 Medical Supplies. It is worth a visit — in just a few short days there are 20,000-plus members and volunteers.
If you are looking for some research and street-level testing of various materials for DIY mask-making, this post from Smart Air Filters is exceptional: What Are The Best Materials for Making DIY Masks? It also includes a few great links at the end of it. “
re: #14 dnlS
Most recent doubling time in days. Link to excel here.
drive.google.com
Worldometer does a better job of most of this, but doesn’t do doubling (yet), which tells you how things are changing and lets you ‘guess’ where things may be, assuming you consider the population of the places you are comparing. Guessing may be better on an individual basis in regards to herd/mob behavior. If/when the US has 100k+ cases, or 200k, etc. the psychological impact will not be small.[Embedded content]
The US and Germany don’t have as old a population as Italy. We don’t have as many instances of grandparents living with virus vectors (aka grandchildren). And we don’t embrace and kiss at every meeting and parting. Those might have an effect on how the epidemic unfolds.
The juxtaposition of this with the CDC telling doctors and nurses to use bandanas as protective equipment will make a wonderful prologue for a book one day https://t.co/U476BUTjCB
— Gregg Carlstrom (@glcarlstrom) March 20, 2020
re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter
That sounds more believable.
Rocky Mountain NP posted record visitation in 2019 and 1st two months of 2020 … now it’s closed. https://t.co/X4Vui0i5Pr
— Jason ☀️ Blevins (@jasonblevins) March 21, 2020
Rocky Mountain National Park became the country’s first national park to close to help prevent the spread of COVID-19, two days after the park’s top boss suspended entrance fees to all national parks.
The park announced late Friday that it is temporarily closing, starting Friday night and lasting “until further notice,” following the request of Estes Park Mayor Todd Jirsa and the local health department.
The park had already closed entrances at Estes Park and to the west in Grand County early in the day Friday due to more than a foot of new snow. Earlier this week it announced the closures of facilities inside the park.
C/L’ed from last thread
re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Russia is still reporting 253 cases of Covid19 and a single death. Is there one single person anywhere who actually believes this?
Trump and the people he tells to believe it.
The China numbers are a lie, the Myanmar and Laos numbers are a lie.
North Korea? No one will ever know.
New: Michael Cohen’s attorney asks his sentencing judge to switch his client to home confinement to protect him from the coronavirus, in “the absence of Presidential leadership.” pic.twitter.com/oJhFu8AZvq
— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) March 17, 2020
ha ha ha
re: #24 b.d. (We’re on our own, Vote!)
C/L’ed from last thread
re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Russia is still reporting 253 cases of Covid19 and a single death. Is there one single person anywhere who actually believes this?
I don’t trust their numbers, but it is winter there. Not much social interaction, whoch would tend to slow things (as we know).
Well now that you’ve debunked my news - thank you for that- here’s another item. Pence has a staffer with “no close contact” that tested positive.
re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡
ZeroHedge got their stuff from pulling tweets and from the Epoch Times, so that’s reliable.
They report the virus like this:
Epoch Times is the official news outlet of the Falun Gong religious group, which means they have a serious beef with the Chinese government. That doesn’t make them factually wrong, though, and they definitely have good sources within China.
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) March 21, 2020
Worldometer at almost 20k in US. Assuming our sub 2 day doubling moves to 3 then 4 days/doubling or better once semi quarantine/shelter in place start to have an effect, we still have 3 doublings before the end of the month. This does not account for all the recently infected (spring break/EU travel ban/packed airports) that will not start showing symptoms (and going to hospital or being tested) or the increased testing which will likely keep the ‘doubling’ in the
That is 160K (3 doublings) or 320K (4 doublings). Shit is being jet streamed into the fan. This is why shit needs to be shut down, yesterday.
re: #19 jaunte
I am getting ready to start doing just this, we need them at when going out to make sure nothing comes home to my handicapped nephew.
And now I need them for work…I work in an ALF in culinary, and they have implemented mask protocols
And now a truly self-centered whine
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re: #23 teleskiguy
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re: #30 dnlS
Worldometer at almost 20k in US. Assuming our sub 2 day doubling moves to 3 then 4 days/doubling or better once semi quarantine/shelter in place start to have an effect, we still have 3 doublings before the end of the month. This does not account for all the recently infected (spring break/EU travel ban/packed airports) that will not start showing symptoms (and going to hospital or being tested) or the increased testing which will likely keep the ‘doubling’ in the
That is 160K (3 doublings) or 320K (4 doublings). Shit is being jet streamed into the fan. This is why shit needs to be shut down, yesterday.
The other shoe that’s about to drop is that in order to test and track, you need not only test kits, but personnel and technical support for THEM to track and cordon off these newly discovered infected.
Thanks to the MBA set and Republicans, we don’t have the budget and we don’t have the equipment after years of budget cuts and “efficiency” oriented views of government management.
re: #29 Ace-o-aces
OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE!!!1!!!!1!!!!1111
Here’s the article at Epoch Times. It is free but you have to give them an email to sign in.
Experts Say China’s Claim of No New CCP Virus Cases Not Credible
re: #17 makeitstop
…..
Trump is, electorally speaking, a dead man walking. All the tough talk and attempted spin is falling flat, and everybody - even the Red Hats - can see it. There is no saving this presidency, and Trump may be the only person in the country who doesn’t realize it yet.
Goin’ to bed. Have a good night, Lizards. Everyone stay safe.
Sorry — Red Hats are as deluded as ever.
From FB comments of a MAGAt FOAF (friend shares our views — but her friend doesn’t): Trump has taken unprecedented action against the coronavirus, and his administration has been very aggressive with eliminating barriers to stem the flow of the virus. He banned travel from China the end of January and got scourged from the media for doing so. It was the right thing to do and other countries soon followed his lead by banning travel and closing their borders. Trump brought together top hospitals, expert medical professionals, and private businesses under his leadership to help develop a vaccine, implement strategic containment plans, and much more. He has lifted medical roadblocks to develop a vaccine sooner than normal, which is very close to being ready for the public, and is being praised by medical doctors and specialists. Trump has done more and faster than any other President in a similar medical crisis. The media constantly lies about what Trump is doing or has done and uses fear language, which is misleading and dangerous.
Can someone send me an email when they are done testing the millionaires and personalizes and start testing what the GOP used to call “Real America?”
re: #32 b.d. (We’re on our own, Vote!)
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re: #20 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
I really hope that the differences in age/culture hold true, for us. Northern Italy has/had a health system that ranked higher than most or all of the US. 9.9 vs 6ish for Boston (OECD?/WHO?). I didn’t extensively compare the rest of the US and wondered how much of the lower #s here reflect lack of access. The places I compared were rated much worse.
“Best health care in the world, if you can afford it” will help/hurt depending on who you are. Though I don’t agree with ‘best’ except for a very small piece of the pie.
Here’s the latest as of an hour ago:
Trump says it’s up to the states to manage testing, find PPE, coordinate treatment. Their job, not the feds, he says.
But right now - tonight - he is opposing money being added to the next aid bill to help states pay for It all.
wtf— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) March 21, 2020
Just heard from friend whose elderly uncles, both in middling health, have decided to road trip down to Florida for a couple weeks of fishing. Not terribly concerned about COVID-19 and in any case they’ve heard that it’s not as strong in warmer climates. (NOTE: THATS NOT TRUE!)
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) March 21, 2020
Don’t go to Florida now, people!
re: #23 teleskiguy
Our national monuments here are open, if you’d rather visit here … Chimney Rock National Historical Site (in Bayard, Nebraska in my county) and Scott’s Bluff National Monument (in Scottsbluff).
SBNC has the oldest paved road in Nebraska (from the 1930’s) and the only vehicle tunnels in the state.
re: #23 teleskiguy
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Minnesota is keeping all of its parks open, but the public buildings (park office, visitor centers, exhibits, etc) are all closed. Most of the campground shower/toilet buildings are closed for the winter anyway. They will probably open in the spring if camping isn’t shut down.
re: #41 jaunte
Just heard from friend whose elderly uncles, both in middling health, have decided to road trip down to Florida for a couple weeks of fishing. Not terribly concerned about COVID-19 and in any case they’ve heard that it’s not as strong in warmer climates. (NOTE: THATS NOT TRUE!)
Fuque Trump with a rusty unsharpened cactus. I can provide one.
Now that Trump’s hotel businesses are about to crash, he’s even more susceptible to whatever his DeutscheBank/Russian lenders might ask for.
Weird, prior comment was mid edit before I posted. Here:
Worldometer at almost 20k in US. Assuming our sub 2 day doubling moves to 3 then 4 days/doubling or better once semi quarantine/shelter in place start to have an effect, we still have 3 doublings before the end of the month. This does not account for all the recently infected (spring break/EU travel ban/packed airports) that will not start showing symptoms (and going to hospital or being tested) or the increased testing which will likely keep the ‘doubling’ in the
That is 160K (3 doublings) or 320K (4 doublings). Shit is being jet streamed into the fan. This is why shit needs to be shut down, yesterday.
No shit. Every day is like a decade. Minutes are like years.
How many years did you live this week?
— Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) March 21, 2020
OK, maybe it was a bit drastic. But, at least we finally got rid of all those damn Starbucks everywhere
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Starbucks closes nearly all cafes without drive-thrus, will pay staff 30 days whether or not they work https://t.co/8A5SFzG2J4 pic.twitter.com/p1mivBiDIa
— The Hill (@thehill) March 21, 2020
re: #33 gwangung
Yeah, the idea of actually tracking, isolating/quarantining, etc that we should be doing everywhere right now just seems like a pipedream.
The Spanish-language version of “15 Days to Slow the Spread” was posted late Thursday afternoon, 3 days after it was released in English. https://t.co/NxIctGPBOM
— NBC Politics (@NBCPolitics) March 21, 2020
I hope that the thing that I am razzed about in the future is for overreacting.
I can live with that with a smug smirk, make it so.
Did it again
Worldometer at almost 20k in US. Assuming our sub 2 day doubling moves to 3 then 4 days/doubling or better once semi quarantine/shelter in place start to have an effect, we still have 3 doublings before the end of the month. This does not account for all the recently infected (spring break/EU travel ban/packed airports) that will not start showing symptoms (and going to hospital or being tested) or the increased testing which will likely keep the ‘doubling’ in the ~3 day range and get us nearly 4 doublings by April 1st.
That is 160K (3 doublings) or 320K (4 doublings). Shit is being jet streamed into the fan. This is why shit needs to be shut down, yesterday.
Issue was trying to do equal less than argument. My bad.
I predicted some years ago that the conspiracy/MLM quack culture would someday cause a catastrophe that would end with the quacks and liars being hunted in the streets.
Reported US coronavirus cases in March via @CNN:
3/1: 89
3/2: 105
3/3: 125
3/4: 159
3/5: 227
3/6: 331
3/7: 444
3/8: 564
3/9: 728
3/10: 1,000
3/11: 1,267
3/12: 1,645
3/13: 2,204
3/14: 2,826
3/15: 3,505
3/16: 4,466
3/17: 6,135
3/18: 8,760
3/19: 13,229
Now: 18,182— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) March 21, 2020
The numbers are really pulling away now. I will stop posting updates, since I think everyone knows where to find them.
re: #38 teleskiguy
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Every ~550 deaths in Italy is equivalent to what was lost here on 911. They are at 7.3X right now. Will not be the same country afterwards.
re: #55 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
The numbers are really pulling away now. I will stop posting updates, since I think everyone knows where to find them.
I don’t and I have a poor memory for those sorts of things.
If others don’t want to see them, you can post them privately to me.
We live here in a blissful bubble of no cases in this part of the world, but I imagine that isn’t going to last much longer. There was a scare here a few weeks ago when Regional West Medical Center in Scottsbluff quarantined someone in the hospital, but that person tested negative.
re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🏡
I don’t and I have a poor memory for those sorts of things.
If others don’t want to see them, you can post them privately to me.
We live here in a blissful bubble of no cases in this part of the world, but I imagine that isn’t going to last much longer. There was a scare here a few weeks ago when Regional West Medical Center in Scottsbluff quarantined someone in the hospital, but that person tested negative.
COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE)
re: #7 William Lewis
Ordinarily, I’d just roll my eyes but this is the PRC. All I have to do is remember the great leap forward and the various famines. Yeah, it is _just_ plausible.
North Korea could be even more horrific.
But has anybody in North Korea had any sort of contact with anybody not from North Korea? Social distancing seems like their specialty.
re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🏡
I don’t and I have a poor memory for those sorts of things.
If others don’t want to see them, you can post them privately to me.
We live here in a blissful bubble of no cases in this part of the world, but I imagine that isn’t going to last much longer. There was a scare here a few weeks ago when Regional West Medical Center in Scottsbluff quarantined someone in the hospital, but that person tested negative.
There are 115 verified cases in MN. 95 of those are in the Twin Cities and suburbs. 16 in my county. Governor Walz may be ordering shelter-in-place very soon.
Just let me get my stereo speakers back from the shop before the shutdown. The speaker shop is already planning on shutting down at 2:00 tomorrow. He finally finished working on them Thursday afternoon.
@seanspicer pic.twitter.com/w2Ipx7abFA
— Maxine Baptiste (@brownsugar7878) March 21, 2020
re: #15 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
I don’t believe the Chinese numbers. I also don’t believe millions.
Their population is 1.4 billion.
One-tenth of one percent is more than a million.
re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter
Sorry — Red Hats are as deluded as ever.
From FB comments of a MAGAt FOAF (friend shares our views — but her friend doesn’t): Trump has taken unprecedented action against the coronavirus, and his administration has been very aggressive with eliminating barriers to stem the flow of the virus. He banned travel from China the end of January and got scourged from the media for doing so. It was the right thing to do and other countries soon followed his lead by banning travel and closing their borders. Trump brought together top hospitals, expert medical professionals, and private businesses under his leadership to help develop a vaccine, implement strategic containment plans, and much more. He has lifted medical roadblocks to develop a vaccine sooner than normal, which is very close to being ready for the public, and is being praised by medical doctors and specialists. Trump has done more and faster than any other President in a similar medical crisis. The media constantly lies about what Trump is doing or has done and uses fear language, which is misleading and dangerous.
I had two of them, out of a crowd of about 30 people, tell me to my face that they will not vote for him again. Family members, who were so vociferous in their defense of Trump that I literally stopped talking to them for nearly two years. Take that as you will. I see it as a pretty big deal.
The newspaper in Sidney, Nebr. (the Sun-Telegraph) insists on calling it the Wuhan Coronavirus.
I really wish someone like Mike Bloomberg or Tom Steyer would put their billions to use purchasing media outlets in media deserts like mine.
Wuhan Coronavirus Delays Spring Sports Panhandle Season (goes to the Sidney Sun-Telegraph)
All Panhandle schools, including Peetz, Colo., have been ordered closed for the next two weeks, with tentative plans to reopen Monday, March 30.
Since avoiding large gatherings and concentrations of people has been determined to be the most effective way of slowing and minimizing the effects of the Coronavirus, it has been decided to close schools and therefore delay the start of the spring sports season as a precautionary measure.
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Peetz, Colorado is the next incorporated town south of Sidney (unincorporated Lorenzo, Nebr. is between them).
I think that many of the denialists and fatalists are just mathematically illiterate and don’t realize that the exponential progression we are seeing could build into the millions in less than a month.
There is nothing to stop it except a massive shutdown. This will have to be instituted by force thanks to decades of lying lepertarian propaganda about what government can and can’t do.
re: #62 stpaulbear
There are 115 verified cases in MN. 95 of those are in the Twin Cities and suburbs. 16 in my county. Governor Walz may be ordering shelter-in-place very soon.
Just let me get my stereo speakers back from the shop before the shutdown. The speaker shop is already planning on shutting down at 2:00 tomorrow. He finally finished working on them Thursday afternoon.
I’m hoping to get to next Friday first so I can use $250 from that paycheck to get my guitar and my rifle out of the pawn shop.The guitar especially.
re: #61 sagehen
But has anybody in North Korea had any sort of contact with anybody not from North Korea? Social distancing seems like their specialty.
Like using the MV Diamond Princess as a case study of what happens with unrestricted spread in a closed environment, perhaps North Korea is another case study of a country shut off from the outside. They don’t call it the Hermit Kingdom for nuthin’.
This is how it spreads https://t.co/Xx40H5W7Sn
— Jennifer Gunter (@DrJenGunter) March 21, 2020
re: #61 sagehen
But has anybody in North Korea had any sort of contact with anybody not from North Korea? Social distancing seems like their specialty.
My boss said that his wife made him get his shotgun from the lakehouse. He told ne that all he had was dove shot and asked me if that was ok for home defense.
My response was that the scariest sound on the planet was the racking of a pump shotgun in a dark house…….
Dove shot is fine, do not leave it loaded, the racking (loading) sound of a pump shotgun is the scariest sound on the planet….
Ordinarily sane people are starting to freak….
THREAD: I mostly talk about movies on here, but here goes. We are currently pivoting our factory to solely make surgical masks and other medical garments in short supply. We can make 2 million masks a day, and are looking to help in any way possible during this time. #COVID19 pic.twitter.com/dOX7N3e1GJ
— Jeffrey Zhang (@strangeharbors) March 20, 2020
Israeli spies source up to 100,000 coronavirus tests in covert mission (The Guardian)
The lede: Israel ‘utilising all the state’s capabilities … including Mossad’, says Netanyahu’s office
Israel’s secretive Mossad intelligence agency launched a covert international operation this week to fly in up to 100,000 coronavirus testing kits, although the effort may have been in vain as critical parts were reportedly missing.
Domestic news outlets, citing government and health officials, reported that the secrecy of the operation was because the kits were acquired from at least two unnamed countries that do not have good diplomatic relations with Israel, meaning the government could not openly buy them.
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BREAKING: Judge extends online voter registration in Wisconsin through March 30! GOP had opposed this clearly-warranted decision on the lawsuit brought by @wisdems @TheDemocrats @marceelias. Huge numbers of Wisconsinites potentially re-enfranchised.
— Ben Wikler (@benwikler) March 21, 2020
re: #67 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I think that many of the denialists and fatalists are just mathematically illiterate and don’t realize that the exponential progression we are seeing could build into the millions in less than a month.
There is nothing to stop it except a massive shutdown. This will have to be instituted by force thanks to decades of lying lepertarian propaganda about what government can and can’t do.
Actually, that’s not true.
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If ever there was a line in the sand, it’s now. Life as we know it is no longer. You can either be a brainwashed, illiterate fuckstick who worships @realDonaldTrump or you can be a person who is capable of critical thought. Trump is a fucking disgrace to humanity.
— Richard Marx (@richardmarx) March 21, 2020
re: #73 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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It would help if there was a central coordinating organization, that could take all these offers, and hook them up with other organizations like hospitals who could use them.
Just saying…
re: #76 mmmirele
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Too much to say for a tweet.
Reflections from my first two days caring for #Covid_19 patients at the nation’s oldest public hospital, @BellevueHosp in NYChttps://t.co/SWkouHj5H7— Colleen Farrell, MD (@colleenmfarrell) March 21, 2020
Fuck that noise. https://t.co/6kXKRI655l
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) March 21, 2020
re: #65 makeitstop
I had two of them, out of a crowd of about 30 people, tell me to my face that they will not vote for him again. Family members, who were so vociferous in their defense of Trump that I literally stopped talking to them for nearly two years. Take that as you will. I see it as a pretty big deal.
I can’t say how many incorrigible MAGATs there are, but I have noticed (and posted about) incorrigible berniebots posting on twitter while the “rank and file” are reconciled to Biden, and planning to vote for him. I expect to see something like that here, too.
re: #67 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I’m not encountering scientific illiteracy, but more basic problems:
Americans are hyper-individualist; people get very offended at the idea of systemic problems, and very frightened by the idea of systemic, cooperative solutions. The object is to win and get laurels…and the inverse is that if you “lose” it was somehow deserved. There’s people who just can’t conceive of the disease as something other than a personal struggle, and are confident that they’ll be fine and most people will be fine. These are generally folks mad at the idea that quarantine/social distancing inconveniences them. And then within that group there are people who specifically state that they understand the numbers, but make a eugenics-lite argument that really the deaths are just going to happen.
The specific variant of this that weirds me out is how much angrier people are the idea of market failure and job losses…because they value money…but lack the perspective to see that the market failure that would occur with a faster pandemic would be worse. I mean, if there were ever a moment to acknowledge that money is an agree-upon social construct to represent exchange value, now would be it. But ultimately people can more easily accommodate the idea of a plague than the idea that money ain’t really real….
re: #72 b.d. (We’re on our own, Vote!)
My boss said that his wife made him get his shotgun from the lakehouse. He told ne that all he had was dove shot and asked me if that was ok for home defense.
My response was that the scariest sound on the planet was the racking of a pump shotgun in a dark house…….
Dove shot is fine, do not leave it loaded, the racking (loading) sound of a pump shotgun is the scariest sound on the planet….
Ordinarily sane people are starting to freak….
For heaven sakes, this isn’t the zombie apocalypse. Covid-19 patients are too sick to attack anything.
re: #86 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
The danger is from angry MAGAts who lash out at Others or alleged Libs. With an Asian son, I fear that.
re: #86 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
For heaven sakes, this isn’t the zombie apocalypse. Covid-19 patients are too sick to attack anything.
We’ve got people stocking up on guns and ammo in my neck of the woods, too.
Partly, it’s the end point of gun culture telling people for decades that they can’t actually trust anyone.
But it’s also the equivalent of buying stupid amounts of TP: a way to feel less vulnerable, even though there’s no relationship between the threat and the soothing technique.
Lastly…re-framing coronavirus as a conflict in which an individual can be useful by positioning themselves as a protector wielding violence is a way of taking an inchoate existential threat and transforming it into a familiar comfortable narrative of heroic (violent) opposition to an unidentified malicious Them. Folks want their Gun Hero participation trophy, making them feel important, right when coronavirus is demonstrating that everyone’s vulnerable.
re: #87 William Lewis
The danger is from angry MAGAts who lash out at Others or alleged Libs. With an Asian son, I fear that.
And I’m in a bright-blue area of blue California, so that didn’t really occur to me. Although such people would be more likely to hit public places than private homes, I would think. I jus hope not to see it at all.
re: #86 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
For heaven sakes, this isn’t the zombie apocalypse. Covid-19 patients are too sick to attack anything.
LOL, I do live in Texas and he is my boss so I decided to not fight the battle of him not needing a gun.
the hoards are going to show up needing toilet paper or something!!!
My boss’s wife is huge AM hate radio/FoxNews junkie so it is somewhat sad to see the capitulations to reality he makes, he is rational.
re: #6 Anymouse 🌹🏡
I’m not sure when /pol ever gets it right, other than blind chance
Since the last time I spent much time there was during the last ebola outbreak, which they we’re all convinced and super excited (because racism) that the entire population of Africa would be wiped out in a month or two, I’m going with never
Before we cash the mythical checks are we going to have pledge fealty to the fat orange tyrant?
re: #94 plansbandc
My honest, if tinfoil hat wearing, guess is that Republicans will try and figure out a way to cut checks for their base, not for every American. I’m similarly afraid that we’ll see aid—masks and ventilators and such—allocating differently to red and blue states.
re: #95 The Ghost of a Flea
I agree. We won’t be seeing checks. And there will be no help from the feds here in my blue state.
re: #76 mmmirele
I’m not saying that ignorance is the cause in every case. Obviously there are millions of denialists and each one has a shade different motivation. It is a frequent one, though.
Coronavirus deniers and hoaxers persist despite dire warnings, claiming ‘it’s mass hysteria’
“Does anyone know anyone who has the coronavirus? Not just heard about them but actually know them,” the meme said in bold white letters on a blue background. “Statistically none of us are sick . . . yet concerts are canceled, tournaments are canceled and entire school districts shut down. Out of total irrational fear. If you have not previously feared the power of the media you should be terrified of them now. They are exerting their power to shut down America.”
I have seen this (likely Russian-sourced) meme on my own FB page. Just a week ago, by which time the mathematics were obvious, Texas radio yakker Robert Pratt was still making lengthy comparisons of the then-small coronavirus numbers with those for seasonal flu in an effort to “prove” that the whole thing was lefty-generated hysteria designed to undermine President Trump. This is a well-nigh universal trope among less educated people in this part of the country. These people do not make policy but they will go about their business with no concern for mitigation of a virus they think is not a problem, and they are spreading the virus in the process.
re: #98 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
My nephew and his wife are stating these things as his mother and father are under quarantine. That’s how insane the disconnect is.
re: #97 plansbandc
I agree. We won’t be seeing checks. And there will be no help from the feds here in my blue state.
My guess is McConnell and Company are dangling this big cheque/tax break/whatever to do two things:
1) Make sure the conservative base turns out to vote for them this November.
2) Blame things on the Democrats when the money doesn’t come.
Can we all agree now that people just sound better working from home?
Then try to imagine how even more relaxed and comfortable these professional conversations would be if we weren’t all fucking hiding for our lives.
It’s a shame it took this to force most companies to change— Stop acting like this is normal (@goddamnedfrank) March 21, 2020
re: #97 plansbandc
I agree. We won’t be seeing checks. And there will be no help from the feds here in my blue state.
The current bill, still under negotiation, includes large payments, including the poorest Americans. Because the Dems won’t budge on it. Negotiations continue tomorrow….
re: #78 gwangung
It would help if there was a central coordinating organization, that could take all these offers, and hook them up with other organizations like hospitals who could use them.
Just saying…
I’d be willing to pay a little bit from each of my paychecks to support this organization. With the right leadership, it could make a big difference.
re: #101 goddamnedfrank
The boss said that Monday is a work day and unless there are special circumstances, you should be in. I work for a defense contractor.
The flip side, though, is the company is using its resources to acquire and sell eggs, meat, milk, and beans in the cafeteria.
Trump can’t have it both ways.
Either the federal government is going to manage the response and pay for it. Or it needs to pay the states to do it.
States can’t borrow and run deficits.
This is a NATIONAL emergency. Let’s start acting like it.— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) March 21, 2020
re: #99 mmmirele
My nephew and his wife are stating these things as his mother and father are under quarantine. That’s how insane the disconnect is.
You aren’t alone. Relatives believe that if they get sick they will go to church and the elders will anoint them with oil and pray over them.
My patience is at an end.
Now I wonder how many Republican Senators and Congressmen have to take a dirt nap before the rest wake up and kick Trump and Pence out.
any job interview I have from here out when they ask if I have any questions for them: “how did your office respond to protect the health and safety of your employees during the coronavirus outbreak?” pic.twitter.com/t1MetfjVzS
— __ (@Anna__Son) March 17, 2020
A few weeks ago, the State of Texas had a most convenient (for Republicans) outage on its voter registration site on election day. They are at it again. Right now, their unemployment benefits page is down. Just terrible luck they have with IT systems. I am going to push the next Democratic administration to investigate this pattern.
In Texas, you can’t get unemployment if the employer doesn’t want you to. They can reduce you to 10 hours a week and move you to a dangerous and wholly unsuitable assignment, and if you refuse it, you are considered to have quit your job and are not eligible. The state screeners make no secret of the fact that they work to protect the interest of employers.
re: #109 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
In Texas, you can’t get unemployment if the employer doesn’t want you to. They can reduce you to 10 hours a week and move you to a dangerous and wholly unsuitable assignment, and if you refuse it, you are considered to have quit your job and are not eligible. The state screeners make no secret of the fact that they work to protect the interest of employers.
Bottom line—Karma is going to get them. They will learn too late that those who live by Ayn Rand die like Ayn Rand…unless they’re under 65 and don’t have Medicare…
Eight facts about the guillotine.
history.com
One fact I didn’t know. Nazi Germany authorised the device for capital punishment, and Nazi records indicate in ten years they killed about the same number as France’s Reign of Terror.
Americans dramatically increasing their exposure to a fast spreading pandemic so they can panic buy a gun right now is proof that we as a people are just stunningly incapable of properly calculating and assessing risk
— Stop acting like this is normal (@goddamnedfrank) March 21, 2020
The big Radical Right Xtian Brainwashing Center only 3 blocks from my apartment isn’t stopping services and the Pimp running the franchise orders his flock to attend no matter what.
Which is why I intend to have a staycation in my apartment on Sunday and NOT venture out…
re: #113 Joe Bacon 🌹
The big Radical Right Xtian Brainwashing Center only 3 blocks from my apartment isn’t stopping services and the Pimp running the franchise orders his flock to attend no matter what.
Which is why I intend to have a staycation in my apartment on Sunday and NOT venture out…
While they’re inside, you should get a group together and build a wall around it.
The fact that our legislature (which selects for divided government and features ≈ 17 veto points) is antithetical to crisis management is one of many flaws in our Constitution. But good chance it’s what breaks the whole thing once climate chaos heats up https://t.co/gYF6S9WlOh
— Eric Levitz (@EricLevitz) March 20, 2020
On July 15, 2019, your board of directors authorized $3B in buybacks. Please sit down. https://t.co/6s9BTw8ZZh
— Katie Porter (@katieporteroc) March 20, 2020
Not sure we’ve communicated well enough that social distancing interventions will pay dividends in 1-3 weeks. Anything that happens in the next 10 days was already baked in prior to that. A surge in cases now would NOT mean that social distancing isn’t working.
— Kate Allen (@katecallen) March 20, 2020
re: #85 The Ghost of a Flea
During the Great Recession of 2008, I read Gawker, specifically Hamilton Nolan. He wrote a series of blog posts profiling unemployed people.
Reading these posts, broke my heart into tiny pieces. The stories people told were sad and infuriating enough. But the comments!
So much whataboutism! Those who dared to tell their stories were blamed. It was their fault, a personal failure for each of them. Hamilton (HamNo) tried to explain that when so many people lost their jobs, it is senseless to blame the individual.
It was and is systemic. I thought it was systemic 25 years ago, when I heard many of the same stories from disabled people on a mail list I ran.
Here we are.
re: #118 Belafon
Can we clone a couple hundred copies of Rep. Porter?
We’ll take three copies of her for Nebraska.
UNMC experts develop process to decontaminate masks used in coronavirus treatment: https://t.co/xyw1Ge79W6 pic.twitter.com/Zm0gSku5YM
— Omaha World-Herald (@OWHnews) March 20, 2020
re: #118 Belafon
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United’s saying “Give us money now or we blow our own brains out!”
I’d buy more popcorn, but there’s none at the stores.
re: #95 The Ghost of a Flea
My honest, if tinfoil hat wearing, guess is that Republicans will try and figure out a way to cut checks for their base, not for every American. I’m similarly afraid that we’ll see aid—masks and ventilators and such—allocating differently to red and blue states.
It’ll be like x number of voting machines per county (even though the blue counties, where the cities are, have 20x more people).
If Montana, South Dakota, New York and California each get the same number of masks and ventilators, then we’re just whiny snowflakes looking for special privileges to suggest that maybe NY and CA deserve more.
re: #119 Sherlock Hound
Whether disabled, homeless, poor, &c. (raises hand for all three), our Calvinist Protestant “work ethic” indicates we are at fault.
re: #123 Anymouse 🌹🏡
Whether disabled, homeless, poor, &c. (raises hand for all three), our Calvinist Protestant “work ethic” indicates we are at fault.
Which Max Weber documented long ago…
This will come from the state emergency fund. Nebraska is one of the few so-called red states which pays more in taxes than it receives from the federal government.
Gov. Ricketts Requests Emergency Funding for COVID-19, Affirms Reliability of Public Utilities Statewide https://t.co/aTFRfRo5MD
Sara Howard is a Democratic state senator representing the 9th district in Nebraska (part of Omaha).
Looks like I’ll be going back to work in Lincoln on Monday to approve these emergency funds. While I’m concerned about our convening, I know it is absolutely the right thing to do to get this support to our public health departments and hospitals. #neleg https://t.co/ISiYEs6nBp
— Sara Howard (@saraehoward1) March 21, 2020
2 months ago: “Oh yeah, the economy is the greatest evah! Companies are so flush with cash that they’re just ready to start making huge investments! Just another tax cut or another series of deregulations and the economic engine will roar to life!”
2 months hence: “ZOMG! ALL THESE INDUSTRIES ARE ABOUT TO CRASH WITHOUT MAJOR BAILOUTS! WE HAVE TO HELP THEM NOW!!!!”
The first COVID-19 case in Lincoln has been confirmed. Watch the Governor’s press conference now on @NETNebraska: https://t.co/3ZwwdqH1fn
— Senator Megan Hunt (@NebraskaMegan) March 20, 2020
Not an online banner ad I ever expected to see: transformerland.com. Buy or sell Transformers.
I’m old enough to remember when “very serious people” were not only predicting that the Trump Tax Cuts would ensure a Republican landslide in the midterms, but the economic growth from such would guarantee a Trump reelection in 2020.
Don’t know the person, but
Not many people will see this tweet.
But, it is with a heavy heart I must announce that my wife of 48 years, Susan, lost her battle against the deadly coronavirus last night. I’m devastated😞 Please everybody take this virus seriously, that’s all I ask.
Take care, everyone❤️— Geoff Martin 19 Times Birch (@Geoff7Birch) March 20, 2020
It’s late, I’m exhausted, and I have no idea what to make of this…
What the actual fuck?
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) March 21, 2020
So, not you guys then… pic.twitter.com/4DrdlUxgrr
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) March 21, 2020
re: #131 Ace-o-aces
It’s late, I’m exhausted, and I have no idea what to make of this…
Weird. $5,400 to Joe Arapaio and $5,402,000 to Women Vote, $2,000 to Tammy Baldwin, and $1,000 to Emily’s List, &c. I don’t see anything for Elizabeth Warren though.
opensecrets.org
I’ve just helped a small boy build a guillotine, out of a clothes line, a cricket bat, a pizza butter, a bowl and several clothes pegs. And some stones. I do not believe it would work as intended. Fingers crossed.
— Neil Gaiman (@neilhimself) March 21, 2020
re: #131 Ace-o-aces
It’s late, I’m exhausted, and I have no idea what to make of this…
The claim of a donation to Elizabeth Warren could be rodent copulation. I do not see a donation to her on Open Secrets from this person.
I’m not sure why she would donate to Joe Arapaio though, with all those much larger donations to Democratic PACs and politicians.
The Rogers family is sad to announce that Kenny Rogers passed away last night at 10:25PM at the age of 81. Rogers passed away peacefully at home from natural causes under the care of hospice and surrounded by his family. https://t.co/adxAgiMW2s pic.twitter.com/nggWiiotMT
— Kenny Rogers (@_KennyRogers) March 21, 2020
re: #28 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Epoch Times is the official news outlet of the Falun Gong religious group, which means they have a serious beef with the Chinese government. That doesn’t make them factually wrong, though, and they definitely have good sources within China.
Unfortunately, the Epoch Times contaminates their perfectly reasonable anti-CCP position with all kinds of extraneous US republican and libertarian bullcrap.
re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🏡
The claim of a donation to Elizabeth Warren could be rodent copulation. I do not see a donation to her on Open Secrets from this person.
I’m not sure why she would donate to Joe Arapaio though, with all those much larger donations to Democratic PACs and politicians.
The plausible theory is it was one of those “strategic” moves to boost Arpaio in an effort to fuck with the moderate Repub running in the same race. You know, the sort of bet that has never before backfired on the rich *couTrumpgh*.
ME: Why didn’t they [send out #coronavirus tests and prepare hospitals] while it was contained? Get ahead of it?
@KellyannePolls: It is being contained. And, do you not think it’s being contained?
MORE: https://t.co/EDtr5CEyFR pic.twitter.com/CuqXMjsESP— Paula Reid (@PaulaReidCBS) March 6, 2020
On flattening the curve in Nebraska:
“Keep Nebraska Flat,” is what state med director is calling for. Which gets some chuckles.
— Paul Hammel (@PaulHammelOWH) March 20, 2020
It’s true. Vaccines are the #1 cause of death from old age.
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) March 21, 2020
LOL.
Our one Libertarian state senator (Laura Ebke) left office in 2018 due to term limits. She will probably run in 2020 to regain her state senate seat.
If @justinamash and @TulsiGabbard changed their registration tomorrow to Libertarian, we would have two Libertarians in Congress.
If @RepThomasMassie did too, it’d be three Libertarians in Congress.
And then it’s a movement.#justsaying #alicesrestaurant— Nicholas Sarwark (@nsarwark) March 8, 2020
re: #134 Belafon
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LGF responds!
Try this! pic.twitter.com/BAwC6AsQbs
— Lord Piltdown (@jimreynolds54) March 21, 2020
Damn. @richardmarx’s twitter account is making me completely reassess my opinions on 80’s pop music. https://t.co/3HV6c22srT
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) March 21, 2020
re: #144 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
LGF responds!
Are you the famed Lord Piltdown of Twitter fame?
Next time some Trumper opens their yap about how the “media” is promoting “Chinese Communist propaganda” about COVID-19, show them this. https://t.co/jiSyw9S1Vn
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) March 21, 2020
re: #145 Ace-o-aces
For endless Nineties pop music:
(no account required, no advertising, I’m not sure who or what runs this)
In the deep metaphysical discussions on 4chan/pol, I ran into a thread where there is a discussion on the hoarding of toilet paper.
It is the opinion of the commentariat there that men use one roll a day, whilst women all use two rolls a day.
I’m not sure these people understand either men, women, or toilet paper.
re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🏡
In the deep metaphysical discussions on 4chan/pol, I ran into a thread where there is a discussion on the hoarding of toilet paper.
It is the opinion of the commentariat there that men use one roll a day, whilst women all use two rolls a day.
I’m not sure these people understand either men, women, or toilet paper.
One roll a day!? Just how much of the roll do they use to wipe per shit?
re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡
Are you the famed Lord Piltdown of Twitter fame?
I am he! Definitive proof:
Yes, Anymouse, the Shiplord and I are one and the same.
— Lord Piltdown (@jimreynolds54) March 21, 2020
re: #150 Targetpractice
One roll a day!? Just how much of the roll do they use to wipe per shit?
Well, 4chan/pol is full of shit, so they probably need it.
re: #151 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I am he!
KEWL! I did not know that! When I run across that Twitter account, I enjoy the snark, but I did not know that was anyone here.
I stand in awe of abilities of my betters here.
re: #136 teleskiguy
I’m not particularly a fan of country music, but Kenny Rogers was a titan of the genre - and left us with quite a musical legacy.
RIP.
I’m going to head off to bed. I’ll catch y’all later… .
re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡
Speaking of Bloomberg. I wonder if he’s regretting wasting half a billion dollars on his “presidential” run. That $ sure could have helped his state in a time like this.
#NowPlaying Kenny Rogers > The Gambler > The Gambler https://t.co/QTPIj2YX3M
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) March 21, 2020
re: #54 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
doubling every three days or so, that is exactly what Germany has seen since March 3, (currently reaching 20K cases with 68 fatalities)
re: #86 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
For heaven sakes, this isn’t the zombie apocalypse. Covid-19 patients are too sick to attack anything.
again, like in the Walking Dead, the real threat is not from the infected, but from the healthy ones
re: #94 plansbandc
Before we cash the mythical checks are we going to have pledge fealty to the fat orange tyrant?
The checks will all have an NDA on the reverse side that has to be signed before the check can be paid out…
re: #109 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
In Texas, you can’t get unemployment if the employer doesn’t want you to. They can reduce you to 10 hours a week and move you to a dangerous and wholly unsuitable assignment, and if you refuse it, you are considered to have quit your job and are not eligible. The state screeners make no secret of the fact that they work to protect the interest of employers.
Ditto in AZ. My sister got fired from her job, then asked to come back for a month. When she went to apply for unemployment, she found out that she was ineligible because she had “voluntarily” left the company
re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
again, like in the Walking Dead, the real threat is not from the infected, but from the healthy ones
Indeed, that’s the moral of the story in your classic zombie apocalypse flicks, like the original Night of the Living Dead. The zombies are a threat, no doubt about it….but it’s the living who are infinitely more dangerous.
re: #123 Anymouse 🌹🏡
Whether disabled, homeless, poor, &c. (raises hand for all three), our Calvinist Protestant “work ethic” indicates we are at fault.
and that is still the basis behind most American economic, social and labor legislation…cannot give the “immoral” an incentive to continue being lazy…
re: #137 Targetpractice
And somewhere in the darkness
The gambler, he broke even
He just dropped by to see what condition his condition was in
So a fellow was visiting his doctor, who advised him to get more exercise and even invited him to come out and join their local softball league.
He showed up and the coach asked him if he would like to join in.
“No,” he replied “I just dropped in to see what position my physician was in!”
#NowPlaying The First Edition > The First Edition > Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In) https://t.co/pTtJxH4C01
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) March 21, 2020
8 million people who voted for Trump live in counties that have no ICU beds. That’s 1/8 of his support. https://t.co/JdEYoBDbpy pic.twitter.com/TLrUkuuyqR
— Philip Bump (@pbump) March 21, 2020
re: #170 goddamnedfrank
8 million people who voted for Trump live in counties that have no ICU beds. That’s 1/8 of his support.
Time to start hoarding oxygen tanks!
What happens to you if you have a bad case of coronavirus? It’s rather terrifying. A Medical Worker Describes Terrifying Lung Failure From COVID-19 — Even in His Young Patients https://t.co/8q06V9Yeip
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) March 21, 2020
Silicon Valley can’t find its ass with both hands and an AI optimized ass finding algorithm, in contrast to America’s garment workers who are reporting for emergency surgical mask making duty like pic.twitter.com/ExEYFSogQQ
— Stop acting like this is normal (@goddamnedfrank) March 21, 2020
re: #173 Targetpractice
Think of it as “natural selection.”
/
“And this year’s Darwin Award goes to….”
Let us take a moment of silence for the real victims of this quarantine, those poor managers whose only joy in life is being seen managing people
— Stop acting like this is normal (@goddamnedfrank) March 21, 2020
re: #170 goddamnedfrank
Thanks for reminding me I live in one of those counties.
For the First Time Ever, Sugar Valley Rally Cancelled (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)
Since the first rally in 1989, the Sugar Valley Rally has brought classic cars to the valley for a contest of calculated timed cruises over several days. The rally has been the longest, consecutive race. For the first time since it began, the rally will not take place. The Sugar Valley Rally Inc. Board of Directors announced Friday, March 20 that the 32nd annual SVR event for 2020 is canceled.
In a press release from Rachael Jenkins, event coordinator, she cited the decision as due to the “rarity of individuals and associations knowledgeable about sanctioning precision timed rallied.”
“Rex Gardner, who sanctioned our event through the Vintage Car Rally Association (VRCA), passed away late last year,” Jenkins said. “Since his passing, I have reached out to several other individuals in an attempt to reach someone willing to be our rally master and set up the course instructions. I had arrangements with a gentleman from California, who is associated with The Great Race, but he backed out last week.”
Further down the article, they say the current epidemic of Covid-19 aided the board in coming to that decision.
The Sugar Valley Rally is a big tourist draw here, drawing classic car enthusiasts from all over the country.
The Atlantic has a sober piece on how we can beat Corona virus:
https://www.theatlantic.com…
Short synopsis: social distancing buys us time while we ramp up testing. Once we get to the point where we can perform wide scale testing we can identify and quarantine every case. The infection rate slows and we can lift social distancing. That buys us time to develop a vaccine.
not earthshaking or billiant. just obvious.
if only we had a government that could be trusted to execute a simple plan.
Spain reports 3355 new cases, 233 deaths. Slightly less than the prior report. Perhaps there will be more reports today from them, or their containment scheme is working (??), or the reporting mechanism is now at saturation.
re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🏡
In the deep metaphysical discussions on 4chan/pol, I ran into a thread where there is a discussion on the hoarding of toilet paper.
It is the opinion of the commentariat there that men use one roll a day, whilst women all use two rolls a day.
I’m not sure these people understand either men, women, or toilet paper.
consider thst maybe these people are more full of shit than the rest of is
re: #170 goddamnedfrank
Germany has almost three times more hospital beds per 1000 residents than the US.
The claims that the US private health care system is “the best in the world” is about to hit a hard wall.
It *does* deliver first-class treatment to those who can afford it, so you can have the *best* treatment in the world if you are among the happy few (well insured and/or rich). But for emergencies and general public health? It’s sub-par.
re: #183 peguyjaures
Germany has almost three times more hospital beds per 1000 residents than the US.
Still only 68 deaths for nearly 20K reported cases.
re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Yes that’s what I was saying - Germany’s health care system is much better, and better equipped for such an emergency. It will be saturated eventually as well, but will probably hold.
re: #185 peguyjaures
Yes that’s what I was saying - Germany’s health care system is much better, and better equipped for such an emergency. It will be saturated eventually as well, but will probably hold.
they have been testing extensively.
and have had restrictions in place since the start of the week
46% of Czech residents returning from Italy did not obey quarantine, says data from bank cards
The data on the payment by bank cards assembled by the Czech technological group COVID19CZ last week have shown that 46 percent of returnees from Italy did not observe at least once the rules of the two-week quarantine, the server Seznam Zpravy said today.
On March 6, the government imposed the quarantine on the returnees from holiday in Italy in order to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus infection.
And thus epidemics become pandemics.
re: #67 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I think that many of the denialists and fatalists are just mathematically illiterate and don’t realize that the exponential progression we are seeing could build into the millions in less than a month.
There is nothing to stop it except a massive shutdown. This will have to be instituted by force thanks to decades of lying lepertarian propaganda about what government can and can’t do.
Replace “I told 2 friends about it” with “I gave it to 2 friends”.
re: #162 Dr Lizardo
Indeed, that’s the moral of the story in your classic zombie apocalypse flicks, like the original Night of the Living Dead. The zombies are a threat, no doubt about it….but it’s the living who are infinitely more dangerous.
“A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”
In the UK, when Boris does his daily presser on the pandemic, there is a sign language person also on screen on the BBC.
I wonder how an ASL interpreter could do standing on stage with Trump, trying to put Trumpantics into ASL?
NEW: Our ad spotlights @realDonaldTrump’s incompetence, lies, and total failure to prepare and protect the country in the face of the #CoronavirusPandemic. Trump has put millions of Americans at risk, and we’re going to keep holding him accountable. #COVID19 pic.twitter.com/LMTWaBFUY6
— American Bridge (@American_Bridge) March 20, 2020
Every American should see this ad. pic.twitter.com/TEfkrkDsWP
— Matt Rogers 🎙 (@Politidope) March 20, 2020
re: #193 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Every American should see this ad.
(eyes closed, fingers in ears) “La-la-la-la…I’m not hearing it!”
re: #192 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
In the UK, when Boris does his daily presser on the pandemic, there is a sign language person also on screen on the BBC.
I wonder how an ASL interpreter could do standing on stage with Trump, trying to put Trumpantics into ASL?
Such an ASL interpreter would likely get good reviews *only* from an ASL expert who can *also* hear what DT was actually saying. Unfortunately.
Actor-singer Kenny Rogers, who embodied “The Gambler” persona and whose musical career spanned jazz, folk, country and pop, has died at 81. https://t.co/AUw53YSvQc
— ABC News (@ABC) March 21, 2020
re: #196 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
He worked the casino circuit around here for years, and probably any place where casinos popped up. His music never did much for me, but he had lots of fans.
re: #178 Anymouse 🌹🏡
The Sugar Valley Rally is a big tourist draw here, drawing classic car enthusiasts from all over the country.
Now we’ll have to see if the Woodward Dream Cruise gets the Ziggy…
re: #197 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
He worked the casino circuit around here for years, and probably any place where casinos popped up. His music never did much for me, but he had lots of fans.
re: #156 GlutenFreeJesus
Speaking of Bloomberg. I wonder if he’s regretting wasting half a billion dollars on his “presidential” run. That $ sure could have helped his state in a time like this.
Last I saw, it was $900m almost a billion.
I see the birds aren’t practicing social distancing. Beautiful pic, as always. One of the consistent bright spots of my day.
re: #196 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
RIP Mr Kenny Rogers. The Gambler is gone.
remember that abc/ipsos poll two days ago “majority support trumps efforts” or some such thing?
we can now all sober up
electoral-vote.com this AM. Saturdays are Q&A days and there are two spot on:
read them both in detail. wont take but a minute.
plus a few good explanations about no, nada, zero, zip chance the presidential election gets postponed
snips:
— Truth be told, our answer to your question is that we don’t think his popularity is rising. Silver’s graph (which can be seen at the link above) reveals the same thing you see if you just look at the raw numbers: Trump’s approval rating has been shockingly consistent since the Oval Office address, varying from 43% to 46%….
…t’s not like he’s all of a sudden pulling numbers in the 50s or 60s. And that, in and of itself, is pretty bad news for the President. …If Trump isn’t even spiking right now, or is barely spiking, what will happen to him long term, as the costs of COVID-19, human, economic, and otherwise, become clear?
and
That said, working with the information we have at hand, we seriously doubt that Trump is going to get a bounce from all of this, even if the negative effects only last a few months. There are four reasons we think this way:
- His approval numbers, as we note in the answer above, aren’t really moving. If he’s not getting a bounce now, the odds are not good he’ll get one later.
- Presidential responses to crises tend to be defined by a very small number of very memorable moments. Think, for example, of George W. Bush, whose post-9/11 speech was the highlight of his presidency…t’s very possible that Trump has already given us the defining moments of this crisis, with the disastrous Oval Office address as the leading candidate, and that he will be as unable to change the narrative as Bush was.
- The number of historical examples where handling a crisis “saved” a presidency is vanishingly small…
- On the other hand, there have been many presidencies derailed by crises, particularly economic downturns. In fact, you can make the case that every single president in the 20th century who stood for reelection and failed was done in by an economic crisis…
re: #202 LadyBehir
I see the birds aren’t practicing social distancing. Beautiful pic, as always. One of the consistent bright spots of my day.
Thanks! But remember, the distance is measured in bird feet. 12 cm, where 2cm = 1bf, is sufficient.
re: #192 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
In the UK, when Boris does his daily presser on the pandemic, there is a sign language person also on screen on the BBC.
I wonder how an ASL interpreter could do standing on stage with Trump, trying to put Trumpantics into ASL?
It would probably come out as something like Dr. Fauci’s facepalm: over and over……
The NYT runs a daft opinion piece on Trump:
Coronavirus Gives Trump a Chance to Make Good on His Promises
His vision of how to wield American power has a lot going for it in a crisis like this one.
Trump’s vision????? His “vision” is a narcissistic view of hyper-nationalism. Trump’s “vision” is why WWI came about, not to mention many other horrors.
Then I looked at the author, Christopher Buskirk, the guy behind “American Greatness”. Gag.
The NYT once again mainstreams neo-fascism.
re: #209 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
The NYT runs a daft opinion piece on Trump:
Coronavirus Gives Trump a Chance to Make Good on His Promises
Trump’s vision????? His “vision” is a narcissistic view of hyper-nationalism. Trump’s “vision” is why WWI came about, not to mention many other horrors.
Then I looked at the author, Christopher Buskirk, the guy behind “American Greatness”. Gag.
The NYT once again mainstreams neo-fascism.
I read this piece, and Man, what a shit-hod of trite “CW” hackery: all about what Trump *should* do (but probably won’t), while -typically - dismissing as ‘in the past” all the stuff Trump *should have* done (but didn’t). Just more “Presidential pivot” fantasy-mongering, IMO: I’m not surprised they don’t have comments enabled…
As physicians diagnose and care for a growing number of people with COVID-19, distinct patterns are emerging, giving clues about how the illness manifests in patients. https://t.co/r6L9MZygyz
— NBC News (@NBCNews) March 21, 2020
I was at the store this morning and I had to repeatedly ask people to not stand so close to me. (Nicely, of course… I’m in Canada after all, eh?)
It pissed me the fuck off. There’s a reason only X number of people can go in at any time. Back the fuck off.
Chicago Mexicans practice social distancing while they’re in line to stock up on #tortillas.
Limit two boxes per customer 👀 pic.twitter.com/p4vHn1bXH0— Serrato Flores (@HechaEnChicago) March 21, 2020
Travel bans neither stopped the spread of this novel #coronavirus nor prevented it from becoming a pandemic.
This updates our @ThinkGlobalHlth tracker of #COVID19 cases in countries with travel restrictions on China (red) & countries without such restrictions (blue). Thread 1/ pic.twitter.com/9Rh1YS3F3d— Tom Bollyky (@TomBollyky) March 20, 2020
There was discussion upstairs that China most likely has manipulated its number, an assertion I pretty much agree with.
This is anecdotal, but….
Wuhan resident Zhang Ruyi said public trust in the government is at a low ebb, because of attempts by local health officials to cover up the emergence of the new pathogen in December, partly by suppressing information and partly by classifying the surge of new cases as “pneumonia.”
“It’s funny, that,” Zhang said, adding that he is highly skeptical of the claim. “They’re not just lying now; they’ve been lying since the start, by classifying [COVID-19] cases under other diseases.”
“There are 60 million people in Hubei, and they have all just been left to live or die without any help,” he said. “It’s basically down to a person’s immune system.”
“They are saying that only a few thousand died here in Wuhan, but does that sound right?”
But Wuhan residents and citizen journalists have previously reported that funeral homes in the city were working round the clock to cremate bodies during the height of the epidemic there, while advertising to recruit manual workers to collect dead bodies from people’s homes by night.
Social media reports posted by volunteers showed that more than 20 patients were admitted to Wuhan Tongji Hospital on Wednesday alone with symptoms resembling COVID-19.
“There were more than 20 cases at Tongji today,” one volunteer posted. “Wuhan hasn’t dared to report them, because [local officials] are under [political] pressure.”
Calls to the medical and political departments of Tongji Hospital rang unanswered on Thursday.
Wuhan resident Liu Songyang said the city is still under an information lockdown, with ever stricter controls on public speech.
It’s entirely possible that a second wave is beginning in China - and especially now that Beijing has pretty much ordered everyone, “OK you bums, back to work!” I guess we’ll have to wait and see exactly how good their earlier containment measures were…..and whether Beijing can pull off total information suppression.
People who deserve our love and and appreciation.
Two 20-somethings have amassed 1,300 volunteers in 72 hours to deliver groceries and medicine to older New Yorkers and other vulnerable people. They call themselves Invisible Hands, and they provide human contact and comfort — at a safe distance. https://t.co/SPy3X5qSeI
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) March 21, 2020
re: #215 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Two 20-somethings have amassed 1,300 volunteers in 72 hours to deliver groceries and medicine to older New Yorkers and other vulnerable people. They call themselves Invisible Hands, and they provide human contact and comfort — at a safe distance.
Adam Smith would be proud…he never neglected the human factor in market relationships. And never used the term laissez-faire. That is something that his pseudo-followers ascribed to him.
OT:
Brilliant
sadanduseless.com
re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🏡
Okay, after mucking about 4chan to find out where they got that claim about cell phone accounts being dropped equalling a bunch of dead people, it lead to wingnut libertarian conspiracy theory site ZeroHedge.
Beijing’s Claim Of No New Infections Contradicts Reality On The Ground
It’s unreasonable to believe that they got to zero cases.
It’s also unreasonable to believe that millions of people are now dead.
The reality is somewhere in between. The number infected and the number dead are far higher than what they’re reporting to WHO. How to validate/verify?
Not through zerohedge, 4chan, or rando internet sites.
Are there mass graves - like what we see in Iran (and they’re also lowballing the cases/casualties)? Are there hospitals still overwhelmed? Or has China clamped down so hard that no news is getting out? Hard to say.
Then again, they’re also far more ruthless in quarantine efforts than anything contemplated in the West.
For fucking fuck’s sake. She wants a ‘date certain.’ Take a number of seats, Blondie.
So…you want to speak to the manager of Coronavirus.
— moistbuddha (@realmoistbuddha) March 20, 2020
re: #214 Dr Lizardo
The second wave.
And the third.
Those are inevitable as some countries reduce their restrictions or let down their guard. Countries like the US where those measures were haphazardly implemented become the reservoir for spread worldwide, overwhelming the resources locally, despite the measures in place.
Someone told Trump about a possible drug treatment.
It doesn’t save the day. It doesn’t stop the infections from spreading. It’s false hope.
Where are the fucking tests that Trump and Pence promised?
The lack of millions of tests promised means that pushing untested drug combinations on people will have unintended consequences - like more dead and more side effects.
You’re the most corrupt and incompetent person to hold office, and these deaths are on you.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 21, 2020
Joy Joy. This should be a shit show to watch.
TWIN FALLS TO CONSIDER DECLARING A STATE OF EMERGENCY IN RESPONSE TO COVID-19
The City of Twin Falls says they’ll consider declaring a State of Emergency in response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic. During a meeting with the Twin Falls City Council on Monday, the Twin Falls City Manager Travis Rothweiler will ask the Twin Falls City Council to consider the declaration.
It needs to be done and done now. While we only have two (so far) confirmed cases the chances are better than ever of more occurring. Odds are the Magats will be out in force opposing this and demanding we wait until the Governor himself declares an emergency. If it does get declared these self same idiots will still be out in mass panic buying everything in sight.
re: #214 Dr Lizardo
It has always been highly unlikely that the Chinese gov’t was able to totally suppress transmission of SARS-Cov-2. Simply put, there are too many people to test.
re: #224 lawhawk
It’s like they held a competition to find the stupidest most mendacious man in America and the prize was the presidency. https://t.co/cgJ3co9F2E
— Tabatha Southey (@TabathaSouthey) March 21, 2020
re: #215 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Are they riffing off Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand?
Either way, good on them. People are going to show themselves in this thing and the heroes are already showing up to work.
re: #224 lawhawk
Someone told Trump about a possible drug treatment.
It doesn’t save the day. It doesn’t stop the infections from spreading. It’s false hope.
Where are the fucking tests that Trump and Pence promised?
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He got that from Laura Ingraham’s Twitter feed.
Watch for him to mention a patient referred to as ‘Lazarus.’ Supposedly a hospital in NYC treated the guy with this drug combo and he recovered so quickly they already released him. That’s the bedtime story Ingraham tweeted.
Crock o’shit, that’s my bet.
Meanwhile, in Russia:
A reported sharp increase in pneumonia cases in the Russian capital and contradictory information around the issue is fuelling fears about the accuracy of official coronavirus data which remains much lower than many European countries.
Russia, which has a population of 144 million, has reported just 199 coronavirus cases and some doctors have questioned how far the official data reflects reality, given what they say is the patchy nature and quality of testing.
A sharp spike in pneumonia cases in Moscow, Russia’s biggest transport hub and a city with a population of around 13 million, has further raised doubts.
“I have a feeling they (the authorities) are lying to us,” said Anastasia Vasilyeva, head of Russia’s Doctor’s Alliance trade union.
I’d be willing to bet that the Kremlin is chalking up COVID-19 cases to “pneumonia” in order to mask the extent of the outbreak in the country.
US Intelligence was warning of a pandemic in January, and Trump did nothing. washingtonpost.com
I have no doubt authoritarian regimes are not on the up and up, just like our own. China will be somewhat full of shit but they are also going full bore on suppression. Russia will fuck this up and many will die.
re: #230 Dr Lizardo
Meanwhile, in Russia:
I’d be willing to bet that the Kremlin is chalking up COVID-19 cases to “pneumonia” in order to mask the extent of the outbreak in the country.
Pretty safe bet that these pneumonia cases were caused by covid-19. My nephew and his friends got pneumonia after a ski trip to Italy.
re: #229 makeitstop
I’m waiting for Trumpists to claim that there’s a vaccine and it’ll be called phalanx*.
All the while, the death toll climbs, the health care system collapses, and Trumpists think this is grand.
*phalanx is the placebo vaccine from World War Z; when people realized it was bogus, it set off the Great Panic.
the president didn’t read his intelligence briefings https://t.co/c1I8YPMLni
— Anne Applebaum (@anneapplebaum) March 21, 2020
re: #120 Anymouse 🌹🏡
Can we clone a couple hundred copies of Rep. Porter?
We’ll take three copies of her for Nebraska.
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That’s interesting. Probably UV-C, (100nm to 280nm) I wonder what dose it takes. Those could be replicated fast.
re: #230 Dr Lizardo
The thing about chalking it up to other causes of death is that if you’re reporting the overall deaths in a year, you can identify excess deaths from this year compared to last - and that’s your covid19 effect.
I took a look at Ingraham’s twitter feed, and it’s crazy as fuck. That woman is straight up a danger to the public.
Trump’s shitheadery travels around the world:
Chloroquine Can Cause More Harm Than Good, Lagos Warns Residents
The warning is coming following the announcement of the United States President, Donald Trump, that the drug can now be used to treat Coronavirus.
The Lagos State Government has warned against the unprescribed use of Chloroquine, an antimalarial drug, as preventive or curative drug against the Coronavirus disease.
The warning is coming following the announcement of the United States President, Donald Trump, that the drug can now be used to treat Coronavirus.
The announcement has been countered by the country’s Food and Drug Administration, which said it had not approved the use of the drug for treatment against Coronavirus.
The Lagos State Commissioner for Health, Akin Abayomi, warned residents to avoid consumption of Chloroquine without prescription, noting that it could cause more harm than good to their health.
re: #237 lawhawk
The thing about chalking it up to other causes of death is that if you’re reporting the overall deaths in a year, you can identify excess deaths from this year compared to last - and that’s your covid19 effect.
It is all about maintaining an image. I can imagine that Russia is dismally equipped to deal with a major outbreak, both economically (with oil revenues plummeting) and in terms of medical infrastructure.
Joseph Maguire, Trump’s recently ousted acting intelligence director, joins other former spy chiefs protesting the “unprecedented attack” represented by “the continuing dismissal of career intelligence professionals.” https://t.co/ESEhhYbRMI
— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) March 21, 2020
In the midst of a pandemic, the traitor Trump continues to destroy our defensive capabilities.
re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It is all about maintaining an image. I can imagine that Russia is dismally equipped to deal with a major outbreak, both economically (with oil revenues plummeting) and in terms of medical infrastructure.
Yeah, this seems to be hitting Russia at the worst possible moment.
re: #241 jaunte
Joseph Maguire, Trump’s recently ousted acting intelligence director, joins other former spy chiefs protesting the “unprecedented attack” represented by “the continuing dismissal of career intelligence professionals.”
We just saw a press conference in which Trump dismissively refers to the “Deep State Department”
re: #224 lawhawk
Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have well known ocular toxicity. Without proper use, we’re headed for a different tangential shit-show .
Cheryl Rofer does an analysis of the modeling of the spread of Covid-19 in the US and Great Britain: balloon-juice.com. Its long, but with some tl:drs scattered throughout.
re: #244 Colère Tueur de Lapin
There’s no way anyone should take medical advice from Trump.
re: #246 lawhawk
There’s no way anyone should take medical advice from Trump.
You know that; I know that. There are people out there that are stupid enough to listen…
The level of dumb on Fox “News” is off the charts. Dumb doesn’t even start to cover it.
If they had a brain cell or two they’d be embarrassed by it.— Yeah Sure WTF Ever (@YeahSureWhatev2) March 21, 2020
re: #244 Colère Tueur de Lapin
Chloroquine and hydroxy chloroquine have well known ocular toxicity. Without proper use, we’re headed for a different tangential shit-show .
Back when I was taking it as a malaria prophylactic we took one tablet a week.
Can’t remember if it was 250-500 mg
re: #248 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I think you mean the brain cell would be embarrassed to be in the FoxNewz-casters head.
re: #246 lawhawk
There’s no way anyone should take
medicalANY advice from Trump.
None. Under any circumstances.
Just as a reminder for my other contacts
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Kentucky is very fortunate to not have an idiot like this running our state. We may have to close our border with Tennessee (joking, kind of).
“@GovBillLee is encouraging local leaders to bet on human nature and prayer, rather than enforceable mandates, to prevent the spread of the COVID-19 coronavirus.”
Prayer is good. It’s not a substitute for evidence-based decision-making. https://t.co/4Wpkb1px2V— The Tennessee Holler (@TheTNHoller) March 21, 2020
Coronavirus: TV’s Fictional Hospitals Are Helping Real Hospitals in Need
With the rise of the number of COVID-19 cases, television medical dramas are donating their props and costumes to local hospitals and governments for actual use.https://t.co/i3gyoQ6aZH— Yeah Sure WTF Ever (@YeahSureWhatev2) March 21, 2020
re: #254 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Kentucky is very fortunate to not have an idiot like this running our state. We may have to close our border with Tennessee (joking, kind of).
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re: #254 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Kentucky is very fortunate to not have an idiot like this running our state. We may have to close our border with Tennessee (joking, kind of).
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Pray for it to go away? Didn’t your god make this? Didn’t your intelligent designer make it act and do what it does? Why are you questioning your god? I thought you said your god was infallible. Do you believe your god was wrong to create and let this loose on us and you have to set him straight with prayer?
re: #257 Eventual Carrion
Pray for it to go away? Didn’t your god make this? Didn’t your intelligent designer make it act and do what it does? Why are you questioning your god? I thought you said your god was infallible. Do you believe your god was wrong to create and let this loose on us and you have to set him straight with prayer?
It’s a test of faith. //
As much as I hate seeing his mug and listening to his whine, I’m almost tempted to start watching Trump’s COVID briefings for the moment he totally says ‘fuck it’ and kicks over the podium and trashes the briefing room.
It’s coming.
Playing to their type, National Racists Online come to the support of Trump in regards to his pushing a couple of anti-virals as therapies for Covid-19.
Oh yeah.
Be careful on the roads and highways. DOT has waived work hour limits for truck drivers moving essential loads. (which could be damn near anything)
My brother told me he intended to refuse to violate time limits if directed to by his employer.
re: #258 NO SMOCKING GUN!
It’s a test of faith. //
F-
You don’t just fail, you die (or cause someone else’s death).
re: #249 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Back when I was taking it as a malaria prophylactic we took one tablet a week.
Can’t remember if it was 250-500 mg
I wonder if it’s being studied as a possible covid-19 prophylactic, like for high risks folks, like healthcare workers?
Friends who use chloroquine to treat lupus have already started to get in touch with my staff to report that they can no longer get their prescriptions.
Trump is jeopardizing the lives of people using a proven treatment. https://t.co/W7e4XdyWv7— Senator Brad Hoylman (@bradhoylman) March 21, 2020
re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Oh yeah.
Be careful on the roads and highways. DOT has waived work hour limits for truck drivers moving essential loads. (which could be damn near anything)
My brother told me he intended to refuse to violate time limits if directed to by his employer.
That seems counter-productive. The last thing we need is accidents on the highway because of tired truckers. Hospitals are not the place to be now.
re: #263 lizardofid
I wonder if it’s being studied as a possible covid-19 prophylactic, like for high risks folks, like healthcare workers?
Based on the statements from the professionals thus far, it seems that it is being looked at for therapeutic use, not prophylactic
Gov. Cuomo says that **people aged 18-49 years old comprise 54% (!!) of all #coronavirus cases** in New York.
In #SouthKorea—that has widespread #COVID19 testing—nearly 30% of ALL cases are in people aged 20-29 years old.
LOCK DOWN THE COUNTRY NOW‼️https://t.co/QoxSXGw2pz https://t.co/LGKZDzUFiJ pic.twitter.com/W8Vyg7rG6v— Dr. Dena Grayson (@DrDenaGrayson) March 21, 2020
re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Oh yeah.
Be careful on the roads and highways. DOT has waived work hour limits for truck drivers moving essential loads. (which could be damn near anything)
My brother told me he intended to refuse to violate time limits if directed to by his employer.
This may sound dumb, but why not have two drivers in a cab driving shifts? The truck could run non-except for fuel and potty breaks.
re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It is all about maintaining an image. I can imagine that Russia is dismally equipped to deal with a major outbreak, both economically (with oil revenues plummeting) and in terms of medical infrastructure.
Looks like authoritarian coverup: a good article is here, Russia Says It Has Very Few Coronavirus Cases. The Numbers Don’t Tell the Full Story.
The Russian Ministry of Health said (a few days ago) that they’ve run 104 000 tests, and gotten 80-some positive cases. 99.9% negative rate. Either Russian doctors are the stupidest people in the world or there’s something very wrong.
re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Oh yeah.
Be careful on the roads and highways. DOT has waived work hour limits for truck drivers moving essential loads. (which could be damn near anything)
My brother told me he intended to refuse to violate time limits if directed to by his employer.
Use the crisis to bust unions and further erode workers’ rights…good move.
re: #269 ericblair
Looks like authoritarian coverup: a good article is here, Russia Says It Has Very Few Coronavirus Cases. The Numbers Don’t Tell the Full Story.
The Russian Ministry of Health said (a few days ago) that they’ve run 104 000 tests, and gotten 80-some positive cases. 99.9% negative rate. Either Russian doctors are the stupidest people in the world or there’s something very wrong.
Or somebody is rewriting their reports…
re: #268 BigPapa
This may sound dumb, but why not have two drivers in a cab driving shifts? The truck could run non-except for fuel and potty breaks.
I won’t say most, but many of them do. “Son” an ex-over the road trucker.
re: #263 lizardofid
I wonder if it’s being studied as a possible covid-19 prophylactic, like for high risks folks, like healthcare workers?
re: #266 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Based on the statements from the professionals thus far, it seems that it is being looked at for therapeutic use, not prophylactic
Also, use as a prophylactic for large portions of the population would be a problem, as in the past blood donations were not permitted for a lengthy period after use
re: #247 Colère Tueur de Lapin
You know that; I know that. There are people out there that are stupid enough to listen…
Or desperate enough to grab at straws.
This is how it’s done, Trump.
UPDATE: We are sending 1 million N95 masks to New York City.
500,000 N95 masks will go to Long Island.
We are purchasing 6,000 additional ventilators and gathering supplies from every source we can get.— Andrew Cuomo (@NYGovCuomo) March 21, 2020
Cuomo is putting in work. I’m not even a fan, but he’s winning me over.
NY Gov Cuomo says state has ordered millions of surgical masks that normally cost 80 cents. They’re $4 now. “That’s price-gouging,” he says. But we need them, and most of them are coming from overseas.
— Eleanor Clift (@EleanorClift) March 21, 2020
This is a hard look from an ANU geneticist at that widely publicized French study on chloroquine & azithromycin for COVID-19. Tl;dr: the study was worse than I had thought—so bad, alas, that IMO it can’t be used as evidence for anything. They didn’t even measure endpts properly. https://t.co/LQjMFXziSA
— Charles C. Mann (@CharlesCMann) March 21, 2020
The presidency abhors a vacuum hence our new president, Andrew Cuomo. https://t.co/m8xK5spwZZ
— Molly Jong-Fast🏡 (@MollyJongFast) March 21, 2020
re: #164 Dr Lizardo
Rod Serling said it best - perhaps one of the finest summations of the dark side of human nature:
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Back then people could admit their error and apologize. That’s the most amazing thing about that episode now.
re: #275 makeitstop
This is how it’s done, Trump.
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Cuomo is putting in work. I’m not even a fan, but he’s winning me over.
Competence is in short supply. It’s appreciated that much more no matter who it’s from.
re: #279 Disloyal Archangel
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The references to ‘President Cuomo’ are showing up all over the place. Here’s hoping Trump sees every single on of them.
re: #275 makeitstop
This is how it’s done, Trump.
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Cuomo is putting in work. I’m not even a fan, but he’s winning me over.
Trump thinks.”Good. I can go back to watching more TV.”
Think date night will be watching more news.
@UptownTheatre never fails. #StayHome pic.twitter.com/GezcY64isV— Andy Slavitt @ 🏡 (@ASlavitt) March 21, 2020
re: #283 stpaulbear
Trump thinks.”Good. I can go back to watching more TV.”
The problem with that is Cuomo is stealing the show, showing what leadership looks like. Spanky ain’t gonna like it, not one bit.
re: #264 jaunte
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Also: Azythromycin?
We’ve used the prepackaged “Z-Pack” of this stuff for various things (minor) over the years, and my understanding is that this is close to a generic all-purpose antibiotic: how is this going to be of use against a Coronavirus?
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re: #285 makeitstop
The problem with that is Cuomo is stealing the show, showing what leadership looks like. Spanky ain’t gonna like it, not one bit.
No he isn’t. New York (and California) will be punished.
In treacherous times, the heros and monsters all show themselves.
re: #284 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Every John Waters movie I’ve ever seen, I’ve seen in that theater.
I was trying to hook up my Ring doorbell to my old NetGear modem. Long story short the modem was not fast enough for the Ring doorbell. At least I know my old modem still works and I will keep it just in case.
re: #287 Skip Intro
No he isn’t. New York (and California) will be punished.
Whatever, man. Cuomo’s getting shit done. Trump’s soiling his fucking diapers.
And people see it.
Instacart now booked solid here for the next 4 weeks! Well guess I’ll try to do a milk run at the 7-11 or bodegas…
re: #221 A Cranky One
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Yeah, I wish I could at least have one of those Fury Road bad guy vehicles.
Well, if I get real industrious with a cutting torch…………Nah, better to uphold civilization for a while anyway.
re: #276 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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Maybe Andy ought to borrow a page from the Trump playbook re those overpriced masks: Order them at the gouge price, then stiff the supplier on the payment and make them sue NYS for the balance (at 15 cents on the dollar)….
re: #291 makeitstop
Whatever, man. Cuomo’s getting shit done. Trump’s soling his fucking diapers.
And people see it.
“No he isn’t” referred to Trump not liking what Cuomo is doing.
re: #295 Skip Intro
“No he isn’t” referred to Trump not liking what Cuomo is doing.
Ah. My bad. Maybe another cup of coffee will get me up to speed here. :)
re: #151 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I am he! Definitive proof:
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Following YNTBE
Let’s show our gratitude to our everyday heroes.
They’re stepping up for all of us. So when you see them, thank them. I’ll start.
Thank you to every:
-Healthcare worker
-Grocer
-Pharmacist
-Police officer
-Firefighter
-Public transit worker
-Childcare worker
And so many more.— Andrew Cuomo (@NYGovCuomo) March 21, 2020
Competence, comfort, encouragement, gratitude. Everything Trump completely lacks.
re: #273 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Also, use as a prophylactic for large portions of the population would be a problem, as in the past blood donations were not permitted for a lengthy period after use
Ah, ok, understood. I just worry so for the doctors and nurses that are in constant contact.
NOW: McConnell on the floor. Schumer just finished. Among the issues remaining - Dems want unemployment insurance - raising the $ amount and help for states - to be priority. GOP has yet to agree.
GOP seems to have agreed to Dem plan/push for more health/hospital resources.— Lisa Desjardins (@LisaDNews) March 21, 2020
Hey SCROTUS @realDonaldTrump - this is what a REAL leader looks and sounds like.
In other words, nothing even remotely like you.
And the whole world knows it.#Covid_19 #FuckTrump #FuckTheGOP https://t.co/ufOIVfnjBY— Disloyal Arch (@Arch_LGF) March 21, 2020
All may freely publish #infographic “Break the Chain of #Infection:” Staying healthy. Here in #Chinese, #Japanese, #Korean, #Arabic. PDFs: https://t.co/Blxu3INrxQ #Asia #coronavirus #China #Japan #Korea #MiddleEast #MENA @XHNews @dprk_news @KCNA_KoreanNews @kyodo_english @snd pic.twitter.com/YAbtkQUYHy
— Karl Gude (@karlgude) March 21, 2020
re: #276 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Wow, if there was only some body that would ensure that the states wouldn’t get gouged in a time of need.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) March 21, 2020
This is crazy: Pompeo and Grenell reportedly arguing that coronavirus has created window of opportunity for direct strike on a weak and divided Iran.https://t.co/RjE2IfDGIf pic.twitter.com/dMv2IA9h2E
— Paul MacDonald (@pkmacdonald) March 21, 2020
re: #304 Belafon
Wow, if there was only some body that would ensure that the states wouldn’t get gouged in a time of need.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) March 21, 2020
Aren’t they being ordered from overseas? If so, what options are there to avoid price gouging?
At least one member of Congress who voted against Trump’s removal will die of Coronavirus and I have to wonder what it’s like to be so corrupt that it literally kills you.
— JRehling (@JRehling) March 21, 2020
re: #305 jaunte
Appalling beyond words. This should be treated as a war crime if we actually take this action. Trump has converted us to a rogue nation with no morals or ethics. However, let’s remember that Trump himself, for all his other flaws, is not interested in foreign ventures, except for those that involve constructing hotels adorned by his name.
re: #309 Belafon
Thanks. You made me smile. :)
re: #306 Hecuba’s daughter
Aren’t they being ordered from overseas? If so, what options are there to avoid price gouging?
In one case, the government could be coordinated local manufacturing. In another they could be ordering a larger amount, which should make them cheaper. And they could also be getting the governments where the companies are to lower prices.
I turned on MSNBC and saw that there’s another misinformation conference today in the WH, so I just as quickly turned it off.
OK, had my little morning Big Guy Cry but the Wife Unit soothed me, now it’s off to coffee.
Was washing my cell phone with hot soap and water and it’s killed. Whoops. It sure is fucking clean though.
In related news, the Trump administration is still tariffing medical supplies from China. https://t.co/ldKTVkfaYR
— Kai Ryssdal (@kairyssdal) March 21, 2020
re: #316 Belafon
And we note how much safer that has made America.
And likely our Idiot-in-Chief will pronounce that “China is paying the tariffs”, and that they deserve it for launching the virus…..
re: #279 Disloyal Archangel
I live in Texas. I have found it necessary to adopt Andrew Cuomo as my governor.
— Alison (@arschmidttx) March 21, 2020
For the average American the best way to tell if you have covid-19 is to cough in a rich person’s face and wait for their test results
— Harry Moroz (@hrmoroz) March 20, 2020
The idea that the president of the United States has prioritized the cruise ship industry enough to mention it at all at a time like this is insanity. #TrumpVirus #CoronaCrisis #CoronavirusPandemic
— Clay C. (@ClayC1969) March 21, 2020
A friend of mine who has always been a strong Trumper just messaged me to say how Trumps “rose colored glasses” press conferences were starting to get really fucking annoying.
Looks like the Office Of Stupidity and Delusion is broadcasting
So the Republicans in the Senate are being recklessly parsimonious in the rescue-stimulus bill.
Quite a contrast to the UK, where the official Conservative party, in control, said yesterday that they did not have an upper limit in how much they are willing to spend to rescue the UK. Really, the Chancellor of the Exchequer said he didn’t have an upper limit. They are going to spend whatever it takes.
re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg
A friend of mine who has always been a strong Trumper just messaged me to say how Trumps “rose colored glasses” press conferences were starting to get really fucking annoying.
May this new outlook sweep across the Trumpster community and force them to take off their glasses permanently and see this con man for who he really is! And may they also see the entire GOP in the same light!
re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg
A friend of mine who has always been a strong Trumper just messaged me to say how Trumps “rose colored glasses” press conferences were starting to get really fucking annoying.
Consider responding that they aren’t just annoying but grotesquely irresponsible and deadly. He’s pivoted from denial to false hope and both are causing people to downplay the risk and continue spreading the disease.
::: enjoying the traditional PBS Saturday :::
whyy.org
Trump tells Americans that “the history books” will never forget their response. He says, “We’re going to be celebrating a great victory in the not-too-distant future.”
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) March 21, 2020
re: #327 Citizen K
Great Victory? Oh yes. Joe Biden will be the next president of the USA.
re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg
A friend of mine who has always been a strong Trumper just messaged me to say how Trumps “rose colored glasses” press conferences were starting to get really fucking annoying.
That vibe is definitely out there. He’s hurting himself by trying to prove he’s the Greatest Expert on Everything. And he doesn’t even realize it.
How many times has Pence said the word “president” in this meaningless prattle he’s presently delivering?
re: #305 jaunte
This is crazy: Pompeo and Grenell reportedly arguing that coronavirus has created window of opportunity for direct strike on a weak and divided Iran.
Remember that in the American Civil War, more troops died from disease than from battle…
re: #323 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
So the Republicans in the Senate are being recklessly parsimonious in the rescue-stimulus bill.
Quite a contrast to the UK, where the official Conservative party, in control, said yesterday that they did not have an upper limit in how much they are willing to spend to rescue the UK. Really, the Chancellor of the Exchequer said he didn’t have an upper limit. They are going to spend whatever it takes.
because they know that between Brexit and Corona, the UK economy could really hit the tipping point
At least Pence was apparently paying attention to movies and TV shows where politicians have to speak to the public during times of crisis.
It’s very clear Trump literally has no idea of what leadership looks like.
re: #333 Charmingly Persistent
Electing Democrats clearly saves lives! At least temporarily. Think of what the numbers would have been if Bevin managed to win.
re: #336 bratwurst
At least Pence was apparently paying attention to movies and TV shows where politicians have to speak to the public during times of crisis.
It’s very clear Trump literally has no idea of what leadership looks like.
And it’s pretty sad when the President can get shown up (even for just the optics) by the likes of Mike Pence (R-Uninspiring)….
re: #333 Charmingly Persistent
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Does social distancing work?
Yes, this tale of two very different responses to COVID-19 in two neighboring Red States offers an object lesson in how real leadership means listening to experts to save the lives of your people. pic.twitter.com/w0t4wg3zeh— Stop acting like this is normal (@goddamnedfrank) March 21, 2020
Italy’s daily death toll: 793, a new record.
re: #340 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Italy’s daily death toll: 793, a new record.
Germany nearly 22K cases with 77 fatalities
I don’t even want to read about what he’s saying at this point. Our Governor and our Mayor will give us the latest info.
It’s important to shower every day. Blow out that hair. Put on office clothes. Pretend to type up some reports. Refer to everyone as your “new client.” End all phone calls with “Here’s my card.” Ask yourself for a raise. If you say no, embezzle. Right now it’s all about self-care
— Karen Kilgariff (@KarenKilgariff) March 21, 2020
re: #343 goddamnedfrank
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re: #344 Targetpractice
Don’t forget slapping your own ass and then reporting it to “HR.”
/
set out a box of bagels and eat them all
🚨”The Justice Department has quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies” https://t.co/ZBuy9wdvpb
— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) March 21, 2020
re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
set out a box of bagels and eat them all
Go ahead. Microwave fish in the “break” room.
re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
set out a box of bagels and eat them all
Announcement: Donuts in the break room!
re: #347 Barefoot Grin
Go ahead. Microwave fish in the “break” room.
Play a browser game while periodically looking around in a paranoid manner.
re: #341 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Germany nearly 22K cases with 77 fatalities
Yep. And German population is even older than Italy. Of course, out of their 21,854 cases, only 209 have recovered to date. But so far, it is very instructive that they have held mortality to such a low rate (still at least 3 x higher than seasonal flu).
re: #346 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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re: #283 stpaulbear
Trump thinks.”Good. I can go back to watching more TV.”
And i think, good. Don’t touch anything
These RWNJ’s are gonna get people killed. This story is from a few days back:
Brazil confirmed its first coronavirus-related death on Tuesday, as President Jair Bolsonaro continued to deride efforts to mitigate the outbreak as “hysteria.”
A 62-year-old man, who tested positive for the virus, died on Monday four days after being admitted to a hospital in Sao Paulo, officials said. The man, who suffered from hypertension and diabetes, caught the virus domestically, they said, suggesting community transmission of the virus in the South American nation.
After announcing its first case on February 26, infection numbers have risen to 291. The figure is expected to multiply in the coming days, but Brazilians continue to get mixed messages from the top.
In an interview on Sunday with CNN affiliate CNN Brasil, Bolsonaro called preventive measures, such as banning mass events, “hysteria,” and said that the economy came first. “When you ban football and other things, you fall into hysteria. Banning this and that isn’t going to contain the spread,” he said.
“We should take steps, the virus could turn into a fairly serious issue. But the economy has to function because we can’t have a wave of unemployment,” he added.
Hours before, Bolsonaro appeared to shrug off advice from his medical team to self-isolate after several members of his delegation to Florida tested positive for the virus. He instead joined a rally of supporters at a pro-government demonstration, shaking hands, bumping fists and slapping the backs of marchers who turned out to show their support for him amid a political spat with Congress.
He had initially urged supporters to call off the march due to coronavirus fears.
re: #257 Eventual Carrion
Pray for it to go away? Didn’t your god make this? Didn’t your intelligent designer make it act and do what it does? Why are you questioning your god? I thought you said your god was infallible. Do you believe your god was wrong to create and let this loose on us and you have to set him straight with prayer?
They don’t want it to go away. They’re praying that it spares them while it kills and maims the liberals, gays, brown people, etc. etc. Remember, they’re the select and this is God’s plague on those who don’t properly honor and obey him. (And watch for them to start putting lamb’s blood over their doorways, while some will express reservations about this “Jewish ritual”.)
Yes, yes, OH ZOD YES!
MILLENNIALS ARE APPROACHING 40. MILLENNIALS HAVE MORTGAGES. MILLENNIALS ARE GOING BALD. MILLENNIALS LIVED THROUGH RAP METAL AND YET HATE THE RADIO NOW. MILLENNIALS WILL LEAVE A BAR IF IT IS TOO LOUD. PLEASE STOP SAYING “MILLENNIAL” WHEN YOU MEAN “TWENTYSOMETHINGS”
— Erin 🏡 Ryan (@morninggloria) March 20, 2020
re: #353 Dr Lizardo
These RWNJ’s are gonna get people killed. This story is from a few days back:
BREAKING: Italy reports 6,557 new cases of coronavirus and 793 new deaths, raising total to 53,578 cases and 4,825 dead https://t.co/47MXF0XUJ0
— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) March 21, 2020
Coup in Brazil, three, two……
How do we know Trump’s done gone and fucked up testing?
Canada has run more tests than the US has. Pence is lying if he claims 400k tests were done, when every other reporting outlet indicates 1/4 that figure, and of the 100k tests, roughly 20% are infected. NY now tops 10k cases alone, and they’ve run about 40% of the tests in the country (25% positive rate).
States are rationing the tests because they don’t have enough. They can’t do the necessary quarantining because they can’t test those around the people who are sick, to try and nip this in the bud. Instead, states are going to start treating cases as presumptive covid19 if they show the symptoms so they can avoid running out of tests elsewhere.
re: #350 Hecuba’s daughter
Yep. And German population is even older than Italy. Of course, out of their 21,854 cases, only 209 have recovered to date. But so far, it is very instructive that they have held mortality to such a low rate (still at least 3 x higher than seasonal flu).
a lot of testing
restrictions in place since start of week
no lockdown, but schools, public offices & facilities closed, non-essential shops as well, restaurants only carry-out or delivery
NHS absorbing most private hospitals in the UK
The NHS has struck a deal with private hospitals to acquire thousands of extra beds, ventilators and medical staff to fight the coronavirus outbreak.
An extra 8,000 hospital beds across England, nearly 1,200 ventilators and almost 20,000 fully qualified staff will be available from next week.
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Under the terms of the deal, the private sector will be reimbursed at cost, meaning no profit will be made for doing so.
Please don’t listen to @VP do not drop off masks and surgical masks at the nearest hospital. That will cause chaos and they can not be used if packaging has been opened. States are setting up drop off spots. In PHX you can drop off from 10-3pm in PHX Convention Center South.
— Ruben Gallego (@RubenGallego) March 21, 2020
Most of the state governments have been fantastic in the wake of this pandemic. Where I live, they have.
Then you have people like this woman. Shame her. Vote her out.#LakeWorthBeach https://t.co/xL98Kaoo0b— 🌊Christie Chappell 🌊 (@OhSweetCinna) March 21, 2020
He’s so fucking stupid.
— Jo (@JoJoFromJerz) March 21, 2020
These guys are freaking idiots.
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) March 21, 2020
re: #363 Belafon
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Next he’ll be complaining about tongue depressors being thrown out after use. “Waste! Waste!”
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I’m reading the tweets coming out about the presser, and he’s a fucking idiot:
By early next week, he’ll take credit for inventing masks in the first place. “No one ever heard of masks until I said it!” https://t.co/vH3fl7dHAV
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) March 21, 2020
I work in a hospital.
I normally leave my work shoes in the laundry room, but today after a possible exposure to #covid19, my husband met me in the garage, where I took off my scrubs. Lots of tears as he wrapped me in his robe.
This shit is 100% on Trump. #healthcare #PPE— Cakes (sanitize your dirty phone) (@cakes_iam) March 21, 2020
re: #364 jaunte
Pence just told people to go fish through their sheds for masks and then drive them to their local hospital.
Hmm, that doesn’t sound terrible at all. Turning centers already burdened with patient care into high-traffic collection points for random garage gear.
And if you can’t pay for treatment, just bring a chicken…
re: #257 Eventual Carrion
Pray for it to go away? Didn’t your god make this? Didn’t your intelligent designer make it act and do what it does? Why are you questioning your god? I thought you said your god was infallible. Do you believe your god was wrong to create and let this loose on us and you have to set him straight with prayer?
These religious right racist KKKraKKKers believe The Big G sent this to kill colored people and queers. THey’re going to get the shock of their lives when they start dropping like flies.
These briefings are beyond dangerous. It’s the commodification of a president who is obviously unwell and unconcerned with costing human lives. These are stunts, PR, propagandistic stunts, and there’s absolutely no public good to be had here.
— Jared Yates Sexton (@JYSexton) March 21, 2020
re: #367 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And if you can’t pay for treatment, just bring a chicken…
2+ months into this and we are being treated a country’s executive (and assistant) unwilling to address a definite shortage in testing (either kits (denied) or ability to test) while they push various vaporware panacea “cures” and ask for the equivalent of a WW2 scrap drive to cover shortages of medical equipment. At the same time they refuse to activate powers they have to convert industry towards production of needed supplies and to coordinate state activities as well.
(Per Trump supporters losing their rose-colored glasses I think events going forward are going to do nothing but erode his support. He is at peak now - practically nothing he does will convert someone to vote for him that otherwise would vote for Biden. The reverse is however not true, Trump voters might convert to Biden - perhaps not in huge numbers, but probably enough to ensure he loses. And hopefully that brings the Democrats more Senate seats as well.)
In the middle of a worldwide crisis, the president is discrediting one of our major papers of record, required for disseminating vital information to the public.
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) March 21, 2020
re: #372 jaunte
After the Media Wars all news was Fox News.
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re: #370 jaunte
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Again, as noted yesterday, this is purely about appeasing his ego. He can’t run his Klan rallies or go golfing, so this is the only way to get the sort of attention he craves. In his mind, even bad attention is still attention when the alternative is sitting in his office and doing actual work.
Trump pushing for Americans to take a drug combination not approved by the FDA that Drs warn could kill you is just more of Trump’s war on science. It also shows Trump’s DESPERATION because he knows he screwed up badly dealing with the virus so now it’s Hail Mary time. https://t.co/8aeCHU8YMd
— (((DeanObeidallah))) (@DeanObeidallah) March 21, 2020
re: #371 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
2+ months into this and we are being treated a country’s executive (and assistant) unwilling to address a definite shortage in testing (either kits (denied) or ability to test) while they push various vaporware panacea “cures” and ask for the equivalent of a WW2 scrap drive to cover shortages of medical equipment.
Like the Germans collecting winter clothing to send to the Eastern Front…
John Bolton, you realize Trump literally silenced coronavirus whistleblowers, expels journalists all the fucking time, refused WHO help, and concealed counts of death and infections.
Also, YOU fired the pandemic response team. YOU. Stop trying to deflect you fucking dick. https://t.co/p3QVGkvb53— Rebecca Schoenkopf, Wonkette Editrix, King Of You (@commiegirl1) March 21, 2020
re: #367 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Fucking incompetent and dangerous.
1) they’re not sealed and sterile
2) they’re going to expose the health workers to a chaotic situation without any clue what this actually means.
3) people will listen to this in good faith, and it will all go wrong b/c no coordination.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) March 21, 2020
re: #257 Eventual Carrion
God didn’t do it, the devil did.
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“You know a ventilator is a machine?” Trump says. And I’m done.
— The Rude Pundit (@rudepundit) March 21, 2020
Also, you have to consider that Trump sees these daily briefings as the only way he’s going to get any face time for awhile in this election season. Yeah, his campaign will run ads, but he has no rallies and no public events where he can glad hand the rubes. He’s effectively isolated from the public unless he commandeers these briefings.
re: #362 Belafon
Most of the state governments have been fantastic in the wake of this pandemic. Where I live, they have.Then you have people like this woman. Shame her. Vote her out.#LakeWorthBeach https://t.co/xL98Kaoo0b
— 🌊Christie Chappell 🌊 (@OhSweetCinna) March 21, 2020
Holy cow! Even Lubbock suspended utility cut-offs.
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