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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:09:28pm

CL’ed downstairs:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:18:34pm

Photographs from around the world on the coronavirus, including The Netherlands, the Czech Republic, New York City, and Germany.

There is a surgical mask on the Fearless Girl statute in front of the Stock Exchange.

The Olympic Flame arrived in Japan.

starherald.com

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lawhawk  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:20:12pm

Italy has now surpassed China in the death toll from covid19. UK warns mortality rate will be quite high.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:20:13pm

re: #1 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

CL’ed downstairs:

If I sign up, that makes me a student, correct? /s

I presume they would still make me pay.

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LadyBehir  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:21:32pm

Regarding the numbers out of China - second hand via my Spouse - Pol at 4chan has a new theory. Of course they do. But someone there claims to have run the numbers of their phone service subscribers. Since they use their smart phones for all sorts of business transactions and if there’s no activity in a few weeks, the account is presumed inactive due to probable death of account holder. The Pol Critter is claiming that there are millions of these inactive accounts now. And therefore, the official China number is grossly understated and that we’re looking at an even bigger catastrophe than we think we are. I don’t know whether to roll my eyes or check to see if there’s any validity to this. Much as I am not a fan of Pol, sometimes they get it right.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:26:37pm

re: #5 LadyBehir

Regarding the numbers out of China - second hand via my Spouse - Pol at 4chan has a new theory. Of course they do. But someone there claims to have run the numbers of their phone service subscribers. Since they use their smart phones for all sorts of business transactions and if there’s no activity in a few weeks, the account is presumed inactive due to probable death of account holder. The Pol Critter is claiming that there are millions of these inactive accounts now. And therefore, the official China number is grossly understated and that we’re looking at an even bigger catastrophe than we think we are. I don’t know whether to roll my eyes or check to see if there’s any validity to this. Much as I am not a fan of Pol, sometimes they get it right.

I’m not sure when /pol ever gets it right, other than blind chance.

How would someone on /pol have access to Chinese records of millions of inactive accounts in China? Why wouldn’t an inactive account also mean someone might be hospitalised for a different reason, travelling, not even a business account at all, &c.

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William Lewis  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:27:53pm

re: #5 LadyBehir

Ordinarily, I’d just roll my eyes but this is the PRC. All I have to do is remember the great leap forward and the various famines. Yeah, it is _just_ plausible.

North Korea could be even more horrific.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:28:31pm

re: #4 Anymouse 🌹🏡

If I sign up, that makes me a student, correct? /s

I presume they would still make me pay.

You need a student email address, unfortunately.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:30:10pm

Lockdown Sunrise, The Early days

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:30:37pm

re: #5 LadyBehir

Regarding the numbers out of China - second hand via my Spouse - Pol at 4chan has a new theory. Of course they do. But someone there claims to have run the numbers of their phone service subscribers. Since they use their smart phones for all sorts of business transactions and if there’s no activity in a few weeks, the account is presumed inactive due to probable death of account holder. The Pol Critter is claiming that there are millions of these inactive accounts now. And therefore, the official China number is grossly understated and that we’re looking at an even bigger catastrophe than we think we are. I don’t know whether to roll my eyes or check to see if there’s any validity to this. Much as I am not a fan of Pol, sometimes they get it right.

Pol at 4chan has millions of Chinese subscribers? Presumed dead after a few weeks?

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LadyBehir  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:30:47pm

I know. I am highly skeptical. But they were one of the first sources he told me about so I heard about Wuhan. Then I started looking for more reputable sites and found them. There is something hinky about there only being 3255 deaths. In a country as populous as China they’d shut down a quarter or more of the country?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:32:16pm

re: #8 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

You need a student email address, unfortunately.

anymouse@studentemailaddress.org

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:35:31pm

re: #11 LadyBehir

I know. I am highly skeptical. But they were one of the first sources he told me about so I heard about Wuhan. Then I started looking for more reputable sites and found them. There is something hinky about there only being 3255 deaths. In a country as populous as China they’d shut down a quarter or more of the country?

It’s hard to believe some random 4chan outsider would have access to this information. Alternative theory, if true, government deliberately deactivated accounts because it wasn’t happy with information they couldn’t control — the people are alive, their phones aren’t.

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dnlS  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:36:44pm

Most recent doubling time in days. Link to excel here.
drive.google.com
Worldometer does a better job of most of this, but doesn’t do doubling (yet), which tells you how things are changing and lets you ‘guess’ where things may be, assuming you consider the population of the places you are comparing. Guessing may be better on an individual basis in regards to herd/mob behavior. If/when the US has 100k+ cases, or 200k, etc. the psychological impact will not be small.


Not much changed since yesterday. The US is accelerating (even with ‘averaging’) as testing catches up. Germany is very regular. Which is bad from a numbers perspective. However, from a % fatality Germany is doing very well. How/Why?

Below compares Italy, US, Germany on a per capita (cases per million) and % fatality per confirmed cases. How much of this is due to differences in testing, treatment regimes, stage of epidemic, age of population, etc confounds a simple analysis. In a week of bad news, at least the US is consistently closer to Germany’s fatality numbers than Italy. This will unfortunately likely change as the system becomes overwhelmed in Germany and here.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:37:40pm

re: #11 LadyBehir

I know. I am highly skeptical. But they were one of the first sources he told me about so I heard about Wuhan. Then I started looking for more reputable sites and found them. There is something hinky about there only being 3255 deaths. In a country as populous as China they’d shut down a quarter or more of the country?

I don’t believe the Chinese numbers. I also don’t believe millions.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:37:45pm

Okay, after mucking about 4chan to find out where they got that claim about cell phone accounts being dropped equalling a bunch of dead people, it lead to wingnut libertarian conspiracy theory site ZeroHedge.

Beijing’s Claim Of No New Infections Contradicts Reality On The Ground

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makeitstop  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:38:09pm

Long day…

We woke up early this morning and drove out to Lancaster County PA to lay my sister to rest. It was a small service, with 2 of my sister’s four kids (one son is severely immuno-compromised and unable to attend, and her only daughter passed away three years ago), and my remaining siblings (4 sisters, 3 older, one younger) and their families. My heart went out to my sisters. So much pain. We were once 9 in number, now we are 5. The reminiscences in the service were heart-rending, very emotional. It was difficult in that I wanted to hug everyone but couldn’t.

My sister was laid to rest on a hillside in farm country, on what turned out to be a beautiful day. That made it a little easier, seeing the sun break through the clouds. After the burial was done we all went back to the church for a lunch and told stories and laughed. When my wife and I got ready to leave, my sisters each came up and hugged me. I did need those hugs, but I really hope that we all survive them.

Driving back home into New York was surreal. My wife noticed Cuomo’s shutdown order while we were on the road in Pennsylvania, and the normally-clogged highways of Staten Island and Brooklyn (trust me, they’re always jammed) were nearly deserted by comparison, even by choke points like JFK. It’s good to see that people are taking this seriously and staying off the roads.

Once back on Long Island, we stopped at my BiL’s to pick up the dog, where we heard the news that someone in Pence’s office had tested positive for COVID-19. My first reaction was that it was another shiny object tossed out to the media to distract from the horrible response to the pandemic. They had CNN on, and sure enough it was all that Wolf Blitzer was talking about for most of the show that I saw. We’re in some hell of a spot in this country, where all trust and confidence in the government has been utterly squandered.

The only other story that even got a mention was the catastrophic projection of next week’s unemployment numbers. This will the final nail in the coffin for Trump’s reelection chances. One by one, all the things he’s claimed as proof of a great presidency have been shattered. And his reaction to these circumstances in the press briefings that he’s not smart enough to stay away from will continue to highlights just how far over his head he is, and always has been.

Trump is, electorally speaking, a dead man walking. All the tough talk and attempted spin is falling flat, and everybody - even the Red Hats - can see it. There is no saving this presidency, and Trump may be the only person in the country who doesn’t realize it yet.

Goin’ to bed. Have a good night, Lizards. Everyone stay safe.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:40:39pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🏡

ZeroHedge got their stuff from pulling tweets and from the Epoch Times, so that’s reliable.

They report the virus like this:

The CCP virus, commonly known as the novel coronavirus, first emerged in Wuhan in December 2019.

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jaunte  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:43:52pm

“…Additional Resources for Open Source or Volunteer COVID-19 Projects:

One of my favorite how-to sites is Instructables. The DIY Cloth Face Mask has almost 100,000 views. It is a step-by-step instruction for those who need it. Kudos to ashevillejm.

In 2006, CDC released a Simple Respiratory Mask design using heavyweight t-shirts in its Emerging Infectious Diseases journal. More of an academic post, but some ideas in it.

A Facebook group was formed last week: Open Source COVID19 Medical Supplies. It is worth a visit — in just a few short days there are 20,000-plus members and volunteers.

If you are looking for some research and street-level testing of various materials for DIY mask-making, this post from Smart Air Filters is exceptional: What Are The Best Materials for Making DIY Masks? It also includes a few great links at the end of it. “

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:44:47pm

re: #14 dnlS

Most recent doubling time in days. Link to excel here.
drive.google.com
Worldometer does a better job of most of this, but doesn’t do doubling (yet), which tells you how things are changing and lets you ‘guess’ where things may be, assuming you consider the population of the places you are comparing. Guessing may be better on an individual basis in regards to herd/mob behavior. If/when the US has 100k+ cases, or 200k, etc. the psychological impact will not be small.

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The US and Germany don’t have as old a population as Italy. We don’t have as many instances of grandparents living with virus vectors (aka grandchildren). And we don’t embrace and kiss at every meeting and parting. Those might have an effect on how the epidemic unfolds.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:45:03pm
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LadyBehir  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:45:35pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

That sounds more believable.

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:46:15pm

Rocky Mountain National Park became the country’s first national park to close to help prevent the spread of COVID-19, two days after the park’s top boss suspended entrance fees to all national parks.

The park announced late Friday that it is temporarily closing, starting Friday night and lasting “until further notice,” following the request of Estes Park Mayor Todd Jirsa and the local health department.

The park had already closed entrances at Estes Park and to the west in Grand County early in the day Friday due to more than a foot of new snow. Earlier this week it announced the closures of facilities inside the park.

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:47:47pm

C/L’ed from last thread

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Russia is still reporting 253 cases of Covid19 and a single death. Is there one single person anywhere who actually believes this?

Trump and the people he tells to believe it.

The China numbers are a lie, the Myanmar and Laos numbers are a lie.

North Korea? No one will ever know.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:49:15pm

ha ha ha

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:50:11pm

re: #24 b.d. (We’re on our own, Vote!)

C/L’ed from last thread

re: #52 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Russia is still reporting 253 cases of Covid19 and a single death. Is there one single person anywhere who actually believes this?

I don’t trust their numbers, but it is winter there. Not much social interaction, whoch would tend to slow things (as we know).

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LadyBehir  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:50:13pm

Well now that you’ve debunked my news - thank you for that- here’s another item. Pence has a staffer with “no close contact” that tested positive.

azfamily.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:50:36pm

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡

ZeroHedge got their stuff from pulling tweets and from the Epoch Times, so that’s reliable.

They report the virus like this:

Epoch Times is the official news outlet of the Falun Gong religious group, which means they have a serious beef with the Chinese government. That doesn’t make them factually wrong, though, and they definitely have good sources within China.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:51:09pm
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dnlS  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:51:15pm

Worldometer at almost 20k in US. Assuming our sub 2 day doubling moves to 3 then 4 days/doubling or better once semi quarantine/shelter in place start to have an effect, we still have 3 doublings before the end of the month. This does not account for all the recently infected (spring break/EU travel ban/packed airports) that will not start showing symptoms (and going to hospital or being tested) or the increased testing which will likely keep the ‘doubling’ in the

That is 160K (3 doublings) or 320K (4 doublings). Shit is being jet streamed into the fan. This is why shit needs to be shut down, yesterday.

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Broad With Sass  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:52:37pm

re: #19 jaunte

I am getting ready to start doing just this, we need them at when going out to make sure nothing comes home to my handicapped nephew.

And now I need them for work…I work in an ALF in culinary, and they have implemented mask protocols
And now a truly self-centered whine

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:53:58pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

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gwangung  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:54:36pm

re: #30 dnlS

Worldometer at almost 20k in US. Assuming our sub 2 day doubling moves to 3 then 4 days/doubling or better once semi quarantine/shelter in place start to have an effect, we still have 3 doublings before the end of the month. This does not account for all the recently infected (spring break/EU travel ban/packed airports) that will not start showing symptoms (and going to hospital or being tested) or the increased testing which will likely keep the ‘doubling’ in the

That is 160K (3 doublings) or 320K (4 doublings). Shit is being jet streamed into the fan. This is why shit needs to be shut down, yesterday.

The other shoe that’s about to drop is that in order to test and track, you need not only test kits, but personnel and technical support for THEM to track and cordon off these newly discovered infected.

Thanks to the MBA set and Republicans, we don’t have the budget and we don’t have the equipment after years of budget cuts and “efficiency” oriented views of government management.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:57:01pm

re: #29 Ace-o-aces

OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE!!!1!!!!1!!!!1111

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:57:07pm

Here’s the article at Epoch Times. It is free but you have to give them an email to sign in.

Experts Say China’s Claim of No New CCP Virus Cases Not Credible

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:57:37pm

re: #17 makeitstop

…..

Trump is, electorally speaking, a dead man walking. All the tough talk and attempted spin is falling flat, and everybody - even the Red Hats - can see it. There is no saving this presidency, and Trump may be the only person in the country who doesn’t realize it yet.

Goin’ to bed. Have a good night, Lizards. Everyone stay safe.

Sorry — Red Hats are as deluded as ever.

From FB comments of a MAGAt FOAF (friend shares our views — but her friend doesn’t): Trump has taken unprecedented action against the coronavirus, and his administration has been very aggressive with eliminating barriers to stem the flow of the virus. He banned travel from China the end of January and got scourged from the media for doing so. It was the right thing to do and other countries soon followed his lead by banning travel and closing their borders. Trump brought together top hospitals, expert medical professionals, and private businesses under his leadership to help develop a vaccine, implement strategic containment plans, and much more. He has lifted medical roadblocks to develop a vaccine sooner than normal, which is very close to being ready for the public, and is being praised by medical doctors and specialists. Trump has done more and faster than any other President in a similar medical crisis. The media constantly lies about what Trump is doing or has done and uses fear language, which is misleading and dangerous.

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:58:07pm

Can someone send me an email when they are done testing the millionaires and personalizes and start testing what the GOP used to call “Real America?”

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2020 • 7:59:00pm

re: #32 b.d. (We’re on our own, Vote!)

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dnlS  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:00:28pm

re: #20 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I really hope that the differences in age/culture hold true, for us. Northern Italy has/had a health system that ranked higher than most or all of the US. 9.9 vs 6ish for Boston (OECD?/WHO?). I didn’t extensively compare the rest of the US and wondered how much of the lower #s here reflect lack of access. The places I compared were rated much worse.

“Best health care in the world, if you can afford it” will help/hurt depending on who you are. Though I don’t agree with ‘best’ except for a very small piece of the pie.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:00:41pm
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jaunte  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:01:23pm

Don’t go to Florida now, people!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:01:42pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

Our national monuments here are open, if you’d rather visit here … Chimney Rock National Historical Site (in Bayard, Nebraska in my county) and Scott’s Bluff National Monument (in Scottsbluff).

SBNC has the oldest paved road in Nebraska (from the 1930’s) and the only vehicle tunnels in the state.

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stpaulbear  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:01:47pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

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Minnesota is keeping all of its parks open, but the public buildings (park office, visitor centers, exhibits, etc) are all closed. Most of the campground shower/toilet buildings are closed for the winter anyway. They will probably open in the spring if camping isn’t shut down.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:03:10pm

re: #41 jaunte

Just heard from friend whose elderly uncles, both in middling health, have decided to road trip down to Florida for a couple weeks of fishing. Not terribly concerned about COVID-19 and in any case they’ve heard that it’s not as strong in warmer climates. (NOTE: THATS NOT TRUE!)

Fuque Trump with a rusty unsharpened cactus. I can provide one.

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jaunte  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:05:20pm

Now that Trump’s hotel businesses are about to crash, he’s even more susceptible to whatever his DeutscheBank/Russian lenders might ask for.

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dnlS  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:05:59pm

Weird, prior comment was mid edit before I posted. Here:

Worldometer at almost 20k in US. Assuming our sub 2 day doubling moves to 3 then 4 days/doubling or better once semi quarantine/shelter in place start to have an effect, we still have 3 doublings before the end of the month. This does not account for all the recently infected (spring break/EU travel ban/packed airports) that will not start showing symptoms (and going to hospital or being tested) or the increased testing which will likely keep the ‘doubling’ in the

That is 160K (3 doublings) or 320K (4 doublings). Shit is being jet streamed into the fan. This is why shit needs to be shut down, yesterday.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:06:14pm

No shit. Every day is like a decade. Minutes are like years.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:07:40pm

OK, maybe it was a bit drastic. But, at least we finally got rid of all those damn Starbucks everywhere

//

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dnlS  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:07:59pm

re: #33 gwangung

Yeah, the idea of actually tracking, isolating/quarantining, etc that we should be doing everywhere right now just seems like a pipedream.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:08:29pm
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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:09:05pm

I hope that the thing that I am razzed about in the future is for overreacting.

I can live with that with a smug smirk, make it so.

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dnlS  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:09:16pm

Did it again
Worldometer at almost 20k in US. Assuming our sub 2 day doubling moves to 3 then 4 days/doubling or better once semi quarantine/shelter in place start to have an effect, we still have 3 doublings before the end of the month. This does not account for all the recently infected (spring break/EU travel ban/packed airports) that will not start showing symptoms (and going to hospital or being tested) or the increased testing which will likely keep the ‘doubling’ in the ~3 day range and get us nearly 4 doublings by April 1st.

That is 160K (3 doublings) or 320K (4 doublings). Shit is being jet streamed into the fan. This is why shit needs to be shut down, yesterday.

Issue was trying to do equal less than argument. My bad.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:09:20pm

I predicted some years ago that the conspiracy/MLM quack culture would someday cause a catastrophe that would end with the quacks and liars being hunted in the streets.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:09:44pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:12:20pm

The numbers are really pulling away now. I will stop posting updates, since I think everyone knows where to find them.

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:13:30pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

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dnlS  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:14:10pm

Every ~550 deaths in Italy is equivalent to what was lost here on 911. They are at 7.3X right now. Will not be the same country afterwards.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:15:16pm

re: #55 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The numbers are really pulling away now. I will stop posting updates, since I think everyone knows where to find them.

I don’t and I have a poor memory for those sorts of things.

If others don’t want to see them, you can post them privately to me.

We live here in a blissful bubble of no cases in this part of the world, but I imagine that isn’t going to last much longer. There was a scare here a few weeks ago when Regional West Medical Center in Scottsbluff quarantined someone in the hospital, but that person tested negative.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:20:44pm

This is the only reason we have no cases

Sign on a gas station in Sidney, Nebraska near I-80
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:23:12pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I don’t and I have a poor memory for those sorts of things.

If others don’t want to see them, you can post them privately to me.

We live here in a blissful bubble of no cases in this part of the world, but I imagine that isn’t going to last much longer. There was a scare here a few weeks ago when Regional West Medical Center in Scottsbluff quarantined someone in the hospital, but that person tested negative.

COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE)

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sagehen  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:24:03pm

re: #7 William Lewis

Ordinarily, I’d just roll my eyes but this is the PRC. All I have to do is remember the great leap forward and the various famines. Yeah, it is _just_ plausible.

North Korea could be even more horrific.

But has anybody in North Korea had any sort of contact with anybody not from North Korea? Social distancing seems like their specialty.

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stpaulbear  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:25:09pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I don’t and I have a poor memory for those sorts of things.

If others don’t want to see them, you can post them privately to me.

We live here in a blissful bubble of no cases in this part of the world, but I imagine that isn’t going to last much longer. There was a scare here a few weeks ago when Regional West Medical Center in Scottsbluff quarantined someone in the hospital, but that person tested negative.

There are 115 verified cases in MN. 95 of those are in the Twin Cities and suburbs. 16 in my county. Governor Walz may be ordering shelter-in-place very soon.

Just let me get my stereo speakers back from the shop before the shutdown. The speaker shop is already planning on shutting down at 2:00 tomorrow. He finally finished working on them Thursday afternoon.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:25:39pm
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sagehen  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:26:41pm

re: #15 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I don’t believe the Chinese numbers. I also don’t believe millions.

Their population is 1.4 billion.

One-tenth of one percent is more than a million.

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makeitstop  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:27:09pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

Sorry — Red Hats are as deluded as ever.

From FB comments of a MAGAt FOAF (friend shares our views — but her friend doesn’t): Trump has taken unprecedented action against the coronavirus, and his administration has been very aggressive with eliminating barriers to stem the flow of the virus. He banned travel from China the end of January and got scourged from the media for doing so. It was the right thing to do and other countries soon followed his lead by banning travel and closing their borders. Trump brought together top hospitals, expert medical professionals, and private businesses under his leadership to help develop a vaccine, implement strategic containment plans, and much more. He has lifted medical roadblocks to develop a vaccine sooner than normal, which is very close to being ready for the public, and is being praised by medical doctors and specialists. Trump has done more and faster than any other President in a similar medical crisis. The media constantly lies about what Trump is doing or has done and uses fear language, which is misleading and dangerous.

I had two of them, out of a crowd of about 30 people, tell me to my face that they will not vote for him again. Family members, who were so vociferous in their defense of Trump that I literally stopped talking to them for nearly two years. Take that as you will. I see it as a pretty big deal.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:27:26pm

The newspaper in Sidney, Nebr. (the Sun-Telegraph) insists on calling it the Wuhan Coronavirus.

I really wish someone like Mike Bloomberg or Tom Steyer would put their billions to use purchasing media outlets in media deserts like mine.

Wuhan Coronavirus Delays Spring Sports Panhandle Season (goes to the Sidney Sun-Telegraph)

All Panhandle schools, including Peetz, Colo., have been ordered closed for the next two weeks, with tentative plans to reopen Monday, March 30.

Since avoiding large gatherings and concentrations of people has been determined to be the most effective way of slowing and minimizing the effects of the Coronavirus, it has been decided to close schools and therefore delay the start of the spring sports season as a precautionary measure.

(more)

Peetz, Colorado is the next incorporated town south of Sidney (unincorporated Lorenzo, Nebr. is between them).

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:28:33pm

I think that many of the denialists and fatalists are just mathematically illiterate and don’t realize that the exponential progression we are seeing could build into the millions in less than a month.
There is nothing to stop it except a massive shutdown. This will have to be instituted by force thanks to decades of lying lepertarian propaganda about what government can and can’t do.

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William Lewis  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:33:08pm

re: #62 stpaulbear

There are 115 verified cases in MN. 95 of those are in the Twin Cities and suburbs. 16 in my county. Governor Walz may be ordering shelter-in-place very soon.

Just let me get my stereo speakers back from the shop before the shutdown. The speaker shop is already planning on shutting down at 2:00 tomorrow. He finally finished working on them Thursday afternoon.

I’m hoping to get to next Friday first so I can use $250 from that paycheck to get my guitar and my rifle out of the pawn shop.The guitar especially.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:35:36pm

re: #61 sagehen

But has anybody in North Korea had any sort of contact with anybody not from North Korea? Social distancing seems like their specialty.

Like using the MV Diamond Princess as a case study of what happens with unrestricted spread in a closed environment, perhaps North Korea is another case study of a country shut off from the outside. They don’t call it the Hermit Kingdom for nuthin’.

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jaunte  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:38:45pm
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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:40:08pm

re: #61 sagehen

But has anybody in North Korea had any sort of contact with anybody not from North Korea? Social distancing seems like their specialty.

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:46:55pm

My boss said that his wife made him get his shotgun from the lakehouse. He told ne that all he had was dove shot and asked me if that was ok for home defense.

My response was that the scariest sound on the planet was the racking of a pump shotgun in a dark house…….

Dove shot is fine, do not leave it loaded, the racking (loading) sound of a pump shotgun is the scariest sound on the planet….

Ordinarily sane people are starting to freak….

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:49:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:52:18pm

Israeli spies source up to 100,000 coronavirus tests in covert mission (The Guardian)

The lede: Israel ‘utilising all the state’s capabilities … including Mossad’, says Netanyahu’s office

Israel’s secretive Mossad intelligence agency launched a covert international operation this week to fly in up to 100,000 coronavirus testing kits, although the effort may have been in vain as critical parts were reportedly missing.

Domestic news outlets, citing government and health officials, reported that the secrecy of the operation was because the kits were acquired from at least two unnamed countries that do not have good diplomatic relations with Israel, meaning the government could not openly buy them.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:52:29pm
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mmmirele  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:53:11pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think that many of the denialists and fatalists are just mathematically illiterate and don’t realize that the exponential progression we are seeing could build into the millions in less than a month.
There is nothing to stop it except a massive shutdown. This will have to be instituted by force thanks to decades of lying lepertarian propaganda about what government can and can’t do.

Actually, that’s not true.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:54:46pm
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gwangung  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:56:48pm

re: #73 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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It would help if there was a central coordinating organization, that could take all these offers, and hook them up with other organizations like hospitals who could use them.

Just saying…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 8:57:47pm

re: #76 mmmirele

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CleverToad  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:00:59pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

They closed RMNP?
Whoa.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:08:43pm
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jaunte  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:15:12pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:15:46pm

re: #65 makeitstop

I had two of them, out of a crowd of about 30 people, tell me to my face that they will not vote for him again. Family members, who were so vociferous in their defense of Trump that I literally stopped talking to them for nearly two years. Take that as you will. I see it as a pretty big deal.

I can’t say how many incorrigible MAGATs there are, but I have noticed (and posted about) incorrigible berniebots posting on twitter while the “rank and file” are reconciled to Biden, and planning to vote for him. I expect to see something like that here, too.

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calochortus  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:16:36pm

re: #80 CleverToad

They closed RMNP?
Whoa.

Yosemite too.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:17:01pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m not encountering scientific illiteracy, but more basic problems:

Americans are hyper-individualist; people get very offended at the idea of systemic problems, and very frightened by the idea of systemic, cooperative solutions. The object is to win and get laurels…and the inverse is that if you “lose” it was somehow deserved. There’s people who just can’t conceive of the disease as something other than a personal struggle, and are confident that they’ll be fine and most people will be fine. These are generally folks mad at the idea that quarantine/social distancing inconveniences them. And then within that group there are people who specifically state that they understand the numbers, but make a eugenics-lite argument that really the deaths are just going to happen.

The specific variant of this that weirds me out is how much angrier people are the idea of market failure and job losses…because they value money…but lack the perspective to see that the market failure that would occur with a faster pandemic would be worse. I mean, if there were ever a moment to acknowledge that money is an agree-upon social construct to represent exchange value, now would be it. But ultimately people can more easily accommodate the idea of a plague than the idea that money ain’t really real….

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:18:51pm

re: #72 b.d. (We’re on our own, Vote!)

My boss said that his wife made him get his shotgun from the lakehouse. He told ne that all he had was dove shot and asked me if that was ok for home defense.

My response was that the scariest sound on the planet was the racking of a pump shotgun in a dark house…….

Dove shot is fine, do not leave it loaded, the racking (loading) sound of a pump shotgun is the scariest sound on the planet….

Ordinarily sane people are starting to freak….

For heaven sakes, this isn’t the zombie apocalypse. Covid-19 patients are too sick to attack anything.

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William Lewis  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:21:15pm

re: #86 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

The danger is from angry MAGAts who lash out at Others or alleged Libs. With an Asian son, I fear that.

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KingKenrod  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:23:52pm

I missed the last thread, but that makes this a good time to repost this unlisted video of Chris Thile doing another Gillian Welch song.

April14

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:25:02pm

re: #86 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

For heaven sakes, this isn’t the zombie apocalypse. Covid-19 patients are too sick to attack anything.

We’ve got people stocking up on guns and ammo in my neck of the woods, too.

Partly, it’s the end point of gun culture telling people for decades that they can’t actually trust anyone.

But it’s also the equivalent of buying stupid amounts of TP: a way to feel less vulnerable, even though there’s no relationship between the threat and the soothing technique.

Lastly…re-framing coronavirus as a conflict in which an individual can be useful by positioning themselves as a protector wielding violence is a way of taking an inchoate existential threat and transforming it into a familiar comfortable narrative of heroic (violent) opposition to an unidentified malicious Them. Folks want their Gun Hero participation trophy, making them feel important, right when coronavirus is demonstrating that everyone’s vulnerable.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:29:30pm

re: #87 William Lewis

The danger is from angry MAGAts who lash out at Others or alleged Libs. With an Asian son, I fear that.

And I’m in a bright-blue area of blue California, so that didn’t really occur to me. Although such people would be more likely to hit public places than private homes, I would think. I jus hope not to see it at all.

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:31:37pm

re: #86 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

For heaven sakes, this isn’t the zombie apocalypse. Covid-19 patients are too sick to attack anything.

LOL, I do live in Texas and he is my boss so I decided to not fight the battle of him not needing a gun.

the hoards are going to show up needing toilet paper or something!!!

My boss’s wife is huge AM hate radio/FoxNews junkie so it is somewhat sad to see the capitulations to reality he makes, he is rational.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:32:45pm

Only one person can save us from Dishonest Trump!

Beany and Cecil - Super Cecil! (1960)

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uriel  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:36:05pm

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I’m not sure when /pol ever gets it right, other than blind chance

Since the last time I spent much time there was during the last ebola outbreak, which they we’re all convinced and super excited (because racism) that the entire population of Africa would be wiped out in a month or two, I’m going with never

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plansbandc  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:38:02pm

Before we cash the mythical checks are we going to have pledge fealty to the fat orange tyrant?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:42:52pm

re: #94 plansbandc

My honest, if tinfoil hat wearing, guess is that Republicans will try and figure out a way to cut checks for their base, not for every American. I’m similarly afraid that we’ll see aid—masks and ventilators and such—allocating differently to red and blue states.

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uriel  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:47:02pm

re: #89 The Ghost of a Flea

Nicely put.

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plansbandc  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:48:12pm

re: #95 The Ghost of a Flea

I agree. We won’t be seeing checks. And there will be no help from the feds here in my blue state.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:50:39pm

re: #76 mmmirele

I’m not saying that ignorance is the cause in every case. Obviously there are millions of denialists and each one has a shade different motivation. It is a frequent one, though.
Coronavirus deniers and hoaxers persist despite dire warnings, claiming ‘it’s mass hysteria’

“Does anyone know anyone who has the coronavirus? Not just heard about them but actually know them,” the meme said in bold white letters on a blue background. “Statistically none of us are sick . . . yet concerts are canceled, tournaments are canceled and entire school districts shut down. Out of total irrational fear. If you have not previously feared the power of the media you should be terrified of them now. They are exerting their power to shut down America.”

I have seen this (likely Russian-sourced) meme on my own FB page. Just a week ago, by which time the mathematics were obvious, Texas radio yakker Robert Pratt was still making lengthy comparisons of the then-small coronavirus numbers with those for seasonal flu in an effort to “prove” that the whole thing was lefty-generated hysteria designed to undermine President Trump. This is a well-nigh universal trope among less educated people in this part of the country. These people do not make policy but they will go about their business with no concern for mitigation of a virus they think is not a problem, and they are spreading the virus in the process.

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mmmirele  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:51:47pm

re: #98 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My nephew and his wife are stating these things as his mother and father are under quarantine. That’s how insane the disconnect is.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:53:04pm

re: #97 plansbandc

I agree. We won’t be seeing checks. And there will be no help from the feds here in my blue state.

My guess is McConnell and Company are dangling this big cheque/tax break/whatever to do two things:

1) Make sure the conservative base turns out to vote for them this November.
2) Blame things on the Democrats when the money doesn’t come.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:53:34pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:55:05pm

re: #97 plansbandc

I agree. We won’t be seeing checks. And there will be no help from the feds here in my blue state.

The current bill, still under negotiation, includes large payments, including the poorest Americans. Because the Dems won’t budge on it. Negotiations continue tomorrow….

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:55:36pm

re: #78 gwangung

It would help if there was a central coordinating organization, that could take all these offers, and hook them up with other organizations like hospitals who could use them.

Just saying…

I’d be willing to pay a little bit from each of my paychecks to support this organization. With the right leadership, it could make a big difference.

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2020 • 9:59:48pm

re: #101 goddamnedfrank

The boss said that Monday is a work day and unless there are special circumstances, you should be in. I work for a defense contractor.

The flip side, though, is the company is using its resources to acquire and sell eggs, meat, milk, and beans in the cafeteria.

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:04:33pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:07:32pm

re: #99 mmmirele

My nephew and his wife are stating these things as his mother and father are under quarantine. That’s how insane the disconnect is.

You aren’t alone. Relatives believe that if they get sick they will go to church and the elders will anoint them with oil and pray over them.

My patience is at an end.

Now I wonder how many Republican Senators and Congressmen have to take a dirt nap before the rest wake up and kick Trump and Pence out.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:11:13pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:12:26pm

A few weeks ago, the State of Texas had a most convenient (for Republicans) outage on its voter registration site on election day. They are at it again. Right now, their unemployment benefits page is down. Just terrible luck they have with IT systems. I am going to push the next Democratic administration to investigate this pattern.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:16:25pm

In Texas, you can’t get unemployment if the employer doesn’t want you to. They can reduce you to 10 hours a week and move you to a dangerous and wholly unsuitable assignment, and if you refuse it, you are considered to have quit your job and are not eligible. The state screeners make no secret of the fact that they work to protect the interest of employers.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:18:27pm

re: #109 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

In Texas, you can’t get unemployment if the employer doesn’t want you to. They can reduce you to 10 hours a week and move you to a dangerous and wholly unsuitable assignment, and if you refuse it, you are considered to have quit your job and are not eligible. The state screeners make no secret of the fact that they work to protect the interest of employers.

Bottom line—Karma is going to get them. They will learn too late that those who live by Ayn Rand die like Ayn Rand…unless they’re under 65 and don’t have Medicare…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:18:42pm

Eight facts about the guillotine.
history.com

One fact I didn’t know. Nazi Germany authorised the device for capital punishment, and Nazi records indicate in ten years they killed about the same number as France’s Reign of Terror.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:20:19pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:20:53pm

The big Radical Right Xtian Brainwashing Center only 3 blocks from my apartment isn’t stopping services and the Pimp running the franchise orders his flock to attend no matter what.

Which is why I intend to have a staycation in my apartment on Sunday and NOT venture out…

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Kilroy was here  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:26:36pm

This is how they did it old school

The Silent Invader (Westinghouse Broadcasting, 1957)

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:27:08pm

re: #113 Joe Bacon 🌹

The big Radical Right Xtian Brainwashing Center only 3 blocks from my apartment isn’t stopping services and the Pimp running the franchise orders his flock to attend no matter what.

Which is why I intend to have a staycation in my apartment on Sunday and NOT venture out…

While they’re inside, you should get a group together and build a wall around it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:36:33pm

President Lady Macbeth will never wash the blood off of his teeny tiny hands!

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:36:56pm
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Belafon  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:42:19pm
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Sherlock Hound  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:49:03pm

re: #85 The Ghost of a Flea

During the Great Recession of 2008, I read Gawker, specifically Hamilton Nolan. He wrote a series of blog posts profiling unemployed people.

Reading these posts, broke my heart into tiny pieces. The stories people told were sad and infuriating enough. But the comments!

So much whataboutism! Those who dared to tell their stories were blamed. It was their fault, a personal failure for each of them. Hamilton (HamNo) tried to explain that when so many people lost their jobs, it is senseless to blame the individual.

It was and is systemic. I thought it was systemic 25 years ago, when I heard many of the same stories from disabled people on a mail list I ran.

Here we are.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:51:02pm

re: #118 Belafon

Can we clone a couple hundred copies of Rep. Porter?

We’ll take three copies of her for Nebraska.

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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:51:03pm

re: #118 Belafon

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United’s saying “Give us money now or we blow our own brains out!”

I’d buy more popcorn, but there’s none at the stores.

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sagehen  Mar 20, 2020 • 10:51:38pm

re: #95 The Ghost of a Flea

My honest, if tinfoil hat wearing, guess is that Republicans will try and figure out a way to cut checks for their base, not for every American. I’m similarly afraid that we’ll see aid—masks and ventilators and such—allocating differently to red and blue states.

It’ll be like x number of voting machines per county (even though the blue counties, where the cities are, have 20x more people).

If Montana, South Dakota, New York and California each get the same number of masks and ventilators, then we’re just whiny snowflakes looking for special privileges to suggest that maybe NY and CA deserve more.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:00:18pm

re: #119 Sherlock Hound

Whether disabled, homeless, poor, &c. (raises hand for all three), our Calvinist Protestant “work ethic” indicates we are at fault.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:01:05pm

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Whether disabled, homeless, poor, &c. (raises hand for all three), our Calvinist Protestant “work ethic” indicates we are at fault.

Which Max Weber documented long ago…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:05:18pm

This will come from the state emergency fund. Nebraska is one of the few so-called red states which pays more in taxes than it receives from the federal government.

Sara Howard is a Democratic state senator representing the 9th district in Nebraska (part of Omaha).

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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:05:32pm

2 months ago: “Oh yeah, the economy is the greatest evah! Companies are so flush with cash that they’re just ready to start making huge investments! Just another tax cut or another series of deregulations and the economic engine will roar to life!”

2 months hence: “ZOMG! ALL THESE INDUSTRIES ARE ABOUT TO CRASH WITHOUT MAJOR BAILOUTS! WE HAVE TO HELP THEM NOW!!!!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:08:30pm
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Belafon  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:11:05pm

Not an online banner ad I ever expected to see: transformerland.com. Buy or sell Transformers.

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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:12:33pm

I’m old enough to remember when “very serious people” were not only predicting that the Trump Tax Cuts would ensure a Republican landslide in the midterms, but the economic growth from such would guarantee a Trump reelection in 2020.

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:14:31pm

Don’t know the person, but

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:18:51pm

It’s late, I’m exhausted, and I have no idea what to make of this…

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:22:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:26:35pm

re: #131 Ace-o-aces

It’s late, I’m exhausted, and I have no idea what to make of this…

Weird. $5,400 to Joe Arapaio and $5,402,000 to Women Vote, $2,000 to Tammy Baldwin, and $1,000 to Emily’s List, &c. I don’t see anything for Elizabeth Warren though.
opensecrets.org

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Belafon  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:28:01pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:31:47pm

re: #131 Ace-o-aces

It’s late, I’m exhausted, and I have no idea what to make of this…

The claim of a donation to Elizabeth Warren could be rodent copulation. I do not see a donation to her on Open Secrets from this person.

I’m not sure why she would donate to Joe Arapaio though, with all those much larger donations to Democratic PACs and politicians.

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teleskiguy  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:32:10pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:34:15pm

re: #136 teleskiguy

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And somewhere in the darkness
The gambler, he broke even

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EPR-radar  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:35:20pm

re: #28 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Epoch Times is the official news outlet of the Falun Gong religious group, which means they have a serious beef with the Chinese government. That doesn’t make them factually wrong, though, and they definitely have good sources within China.

Unfortunately, the Epoch Times contaminates their perfectly reasonable anti-CCP position with all kinds of extraneous US republican and libertarian bullcrap.

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Targetpractice  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:36:50pm

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The claim of a donation to Elizabeth Warren could be rodent copulation. I do not see a donation to her on Open Secrets from this person.

I’m not sure why she would donate to Joe Arapaio though, with all those much larger donations to Democratic PACs and politicians.

The plausible theory is it was one of those “strategic” moves to boost Arpaio in an effort to fuck with the moderate Repub running in the same race. You know, the sort of bet that has never before backfired on the rich *couTrumpgh*.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:37:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:39:14pm

On flattening the curve in Nebraska:

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:46:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:50:41pm

LOL.

Our one Libertarian state senator (Laura Ebke) left office in 2018 due to term limits. She will probably run in 2020 to regain her state senate seat.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:51:01pm

re: #134 Belafon

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LGF responds!

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:52:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:58:18pm

re: #144 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

LGF responds!

Are you the famed Lord Piltdown of Twitter fame?

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 20, 2020 • 11:58:51pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:01:18am

re: #145 Ace-o-aces

For endless Nineties pop music:

the90sbutton.com

(no account required, no advertising, I’m not sure who or what runs this)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:07:09am

In the deep metaphysical discussions on 4chan/pol, I ran into a thread where there is a discussion on the hoarding of toilet paper.

It is the opinion of the commentariat there that men use one roll a day, whilst women all use two rolls a day.

I’m not sure these people understand either men, women, or toilet paper.

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Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:09:28am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🏡

In the deep metaphysical discussions on 4chan/pol, I ran into a thread where there is a discussion on the hoarding of toilet paper.

It is the opinion of the commentariat there that men use one roll a day, whilst women all use two rolls a day.

I’m not sure these people understand either men, women, or toilet paper.

One roll a day!? Just how much of the roll do they use to wipe per shit?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:10:35am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Are you the famed Lord Piltdown of Twitter fame?

I am he! Definitive proof:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:11:59am

re: #150 Targetpractice

One roll a day!? Just how much of the roll do they use to wipe per shit?

Well, 4chan/pol is full of shit, so they probably need it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:13:31am

re: #151 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I am he!

KEWL! I did not know that! When I run across that Twitter account, I enjoy the snark, but I did not know that was anyone here.

I stand in awe of abilities of my betters here.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:27:11am

re: #136 teleskiguy

I’m not particularly a fan of country music, but Kenny Rogers was a titan of the genre - and left us with quite a musical legacy.

RIP.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:33:47am

I’m going to head off to bed. I’ll catch y’all later… .

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:36:24am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Speaking of Bloomberg. I wonder if he’s regretting wasting half a billion dollars on his “presidential” run. That $ sure could have helped his state in a time like this.

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:44:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:45:24am

re: #54 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

doubling every three days or so, that is exactly what Germany has seen since March 3, (currently reaching 20K cases with 68 fatalities)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:49:15am

re: #86 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

For heaven sakes, this isn’t the zombie apocalypse. Covid-19 patients are too sick to attack anything.

again, like in the Walking Dead, the real threat is not from the infected, but from the healthy ones

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:51:37am

re: #94 plansbandc

Before we cash the mythical checks are we going to have pledge fealty to the fat orange tyrant?

The checks will all have an NDA on the reverse side that has to be signed before the check can be paid out…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:55:06am

re: #109 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

In Texas, you can’t get unemployment if the employer doesn’t want you to. They can reduce you to 10 hours a week and move you to a dangerous and wholly unsuitable assignment, and if you refuse it, you are considered to have quit your job and are not eligible. The state screeners make no secret of the fact that they work to protect the interest of employers.

Ditto in AZ. My sister got fired from her job, then asked to come back for a month. When she went to apply for unemployment, she found out that she was ineligible because she had “voluntarily” left the company

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:56:33am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, like in the Walking Dead, the real threat is not from the infected, but from the healthy ones

Indeed, that’s the moral of the story in your classic zombie apocalypse flicks, like the original Night of the Living Dead. The zombies are a threat, no doubt about it….but it’s the living who are infinitely more dangerous.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:59:07am

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Whether disabled, homeless, poor, &c. (raises hand for all three), our Calvinist Protestant “work ethic” indicates we are at fault.

and that is still the basis behind most American economic, social and labor legislation…cannot give the “immoral” an incentive to continue being lazy…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2020 • 1:04:01am

Rod Serling said it best - perhaps one of the finest summations of the dark side of human nature:

Epilog for “The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 1:08:35am

re: #137 Targetpractice

And somewhere in the darkness
The gambler, he broke even

He just dropped by to see what condition his condition was in

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Teukka  Mar 21, 2020 • 1:28:47am

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unproven innocence  Mar 21, 2020 • 1:34:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 1:34:58am

So a fellow was visiting his doctor, who advised him to get more exercise and even invited him to come out and join their local softball league.

He showed up and the coach asked him if he would like to join in.

“No,” he replied “I just dropped in to see what position my physician was in!”

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2020 • 2:05:49am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2020 • 2:08:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 2:18:31am

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

8 million people who voted for Trump live in counties that have no ICU beds. That’s 1/8 of his support.

Time to start hoarding oxygen tanks!

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2020 • 2:31:55am
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Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2020 • 2:32:54am

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

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Think of it as “natural selection.”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2020 • 2:41:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 2:41:59am

re: #173 Targetpractice

Think of it as “natural selection.”

/

“And this year’s Darwin Award goes to….”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2020 • 2:55:43am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 3:04:09am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 21, 2020 • 3:18:55am

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Thanks for reminding me I live in one of those counties.

For the First Time Ever, Sugar Valley Rally Cancelled (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

Since the first rally in 1989, the Sugar Valley Rally has brought classic cars to the valley for a contest of calculated timed cruises over several days. The rally has been the longest, consecutive race. For the first time since it began, the rally will not take place. The Sugar Valley Rally Inc. Board of Directors announced Friday, March 20 that the 32nd annual SVR event for 2020 is canceled.

In a press release from Rachael Jenkins, event coordinator, she cited the decision as due to the “rarity of individuals and associations knowledgeable about sanctioning precision timed rallied.”

“Rex Gardner, who sanctioned our event through the Vintage Car Rally Association (VRCA), passed away late last year,” Jenkins said. “Since his passing, I have reached out to several other individuals in an attempt to reach someone willing to be our rally master and set up the course instructions. I had arrangements with a gentleman from California, who is associated with The Great Race, but he backed out last week.”

Further down the article, they say the current epidemic of Covid-19 aided the board in coming to that decision.

The Sugar Valley Rally is a big tourist draw here, drawing classic car enthusiasts from all over the country.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 21, 2020 • 3:52:31am

The Atlantic has a sober piece on how we can beat Corona virus:
https://www.theatlantic.com…

Short synopsis: social distancing buys us time while we ramp up testing. Once we get to the point where we can perform wide scale testing we can identify and quarantine every case. The infection rate slows and we can lift social distancing. That buys us time to develop a vaccine.

not earthshaking or billiant. just obvious.

if only we had a government that could be trusted to execute a simple plan.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 4:00:35am

Spain reports 3355 new cases, 233 deaths. Slightly less than the prior report. Perhaps there will be more reports today from them, or their containment scheme is working (??), or the reporting mechanism is now at saturation.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 21, 2020 • 4:01:51am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🏡

In the deep metaphysical discussions on 4chan/pol, I ran into a thread where there is a discussion on the hoarding of toilet paper.

It is the opinion of the commentariat there that men use one roll a day, whilst women all use two rolls a day.

I’m not sure these people understand either men, women, or toilet paper.

consider thst maybe these people are more full of shit than the rest of is

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 21, 2020 • 4:02:27am

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Well, 4chan/pol is full of shit, so they probably need it.

ah gmta

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peguyjaures  Mar 21, 2020 • 4:02:36am

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Germany has almost three times more hospital beds per 1000 residents than the US.
The claims that the US private health care system is “the best in the world” is about to hit a hard wall.
It *does* deliver first-class treatment to those who can afford it, so you can have the *best* treatment in the world if you are among the happy few (well insured and/or rich). But for emergencies and general public health? It’s sub-par.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 4:04:22am

re: #183 peguyjaures

Germany has almost three times more hospital beds per 1000 residents than the US.

Still only 68 deaths for nearly 20K reported cases.

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peguyjaures  Mar 21, 2020 • 4:09:39am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes that’s what I was saying - Germany’s health care system is much better, and better equipped for such an emergency. It will be saturated eventually as well, but will probably hold.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 4:24:15am

re: #185 peguyjaures

Yes that’s what I was saying - Germany’s health care system is much better, and better equipped for such an emergency. It will be saturated eventually as well, but will probably hold.

they have been testing extensively.

and have had restrictions in place since the start of the week

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 4:25:12am

46% of Czech residents returning from Italy did not obey quarantine, says data from bank cards

The data on the payment by bank cards assembled by the Czech technological group COVID19CZ last week have shown that 46 percent of returnees from Italy did not observe at least once the rules of the two-week quarantine, the server Seznam Zpravy said today.

On March 6, the government imposed the quarantine on the returnees from holiday in Italy in order to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus infection.

And thus epidemics become pandemics.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2020 • 4:32:28am

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think that many of the denialists and fatalists are just mathematically illiterate and don’t realize that the exponential progression we are seeing could build into the millions in less than a month.
There is nothing to stop it except a massive shutdown. This will have to be instituted by force thanks to decades of lying lepertarian propaganda about what government can and can’t do.

Replace “I told 2 friends about it” with “I gave it to 2 friends”.

80’S FABERGE ORGANICS SHAMPOO COMMERCIAL W HEATHER LOCKLEAR WAYNE’S WORLD SPOOF

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2020 • 4:36:55am

re: #77 DodgerFan1988

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I love Don’t Give A Fuck Marx

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2020 • 5:07:26am

re: #136 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

RIP Kenny. You can count ‘em now.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2020 • 5:17:41am

re: #162 Dr Lizardo

Indeed, that’s the moral of the story in your classic zombie apocalypse flicks, like the original Night of the Living Dead. The zombies are a threat, no doubt about it….but it’s the living who are infinitely more dangerous.

“A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 5:22:26am

In the UK, when Boris does his daily presser on the pandemic, there is a sign language person also on screen on the BBC.

I wonder how an ASL interpreter could do standing on stage with Trump, trying to put Trumpantics into ASL?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 21, 2020 • 5:24:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 5:38:41am

re: #193 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Every American should see this ad.

(eyes closed, fingers in ears) “La-la-la-la…I’m not hearing it!”

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unproven innocence  Mar 21, 2020 • 5:39:27am

re: #192 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In the UK, when Boris does his daily presser on the pandemic, there is a sign language person also on screen on the BBC.

I wonder how an ASL interpreter could do standing on stage with Trump, trying to put Trumpantics into ASL?

Such an ASL interpreter would likely get good reviews *only* from an ASL expert who can *also* hear what DT was actually saying. Unfortunately.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 21, 2020 • 5:45:39am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 5:49:50am

re: #196 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

He worked the casino circuit around here for years, and probably any place where casinos popped up. His music never did much for me, but he had lots of fans.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 21, 2020 • 5:54:10am

re: #178 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The Sugar Valley Rally is a big tourist draw here, drawing classic car enthusiasts from all over the country.

Now we’ll have to see if the Woodward Dream Cruise gets the Ziggy…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 21, 2020 • 5:58:24am

re: #197 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

He worked the casino circuit around here for years, and probably any place where casinos popped up. His music never did much for me, but he had lots of fans.

Kenny Rogers Roasters

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jeffreyw  Mar 21, 2020 • 6:08:30am

Good morning!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 6:20:52am

re: #156 GlutenFreeJesus

Speaking of Bloomberg. I wonder if he’s regretting wasting half a billion dollars on his “presidential” run. That $ sure could have helped his state in a time like this.

Last I saw, it was $900m almost a billion.

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LadyBehir  Mar 21, 2020 • 6:24:04am

I see the birds aren’t practicing social distancing. Beautiful pic, as always. One of the consistent bright spots of my day.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2020 • 6:24:19am

re: #196 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

RIP Mr Kenny Rogers. The Gambler is gone.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 21, 2020 • 6:24:40am

Time to go shopping for guillotines…

Outrageous! Patent Troll sues Test Kit maker

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 21, 2020 • 6:33:44am

remember that abc/ipsos poll two days ago “majority support trumps efforts” or some such thing?

we can now all sober up

electoral-vote.com this AM. Saturdays are Q&A days and there are two spot on:

read them both in detail. wont take but a minute.

plus a few good explanations about no, nada, zero, zip chance the presidential election gets postponed

snips:

— Truth be told, our answer to your question is that we don’t think his popularity is rising. Silver’s graph (which can be seen at the link above) reveals the same thing you see if you just look at the raw numbers: Trump’s approval rating has been shockingly consistent since the Oval Office address, varying from 43% to 46%….

…t’s not like he’s all of a sudden pulling numbers in the 50s or 60s. And that, in and of itself, is pretty bad news for the President. …If Trump isn’t even spiking right now, or is barely spiking, what will happen to him long term, as the costs of COVID-19, human, economic, and otherwise, become clear?

and

That said, working with the information we have at hand, we seriously doubt that Trump is going to get a bounce from all of this, even if the negative effects only last a few months. There are four reasons we think this way:

- His approval numbers, as we note in the answer above, aren’t really moving. If he’s not getting a bounce now, the odds are not good he’ll get one later.

- Presidential responses to crises tend to be defined by a very small number of very memorable moments. Think, for example, of George W. Bush, whose post-9/11 speech was the highlight of his presidency…t’s very possible that Trump has already given us the defining moments of this crisis, with the disastrous Oval Office address as the leading candidate, and that he will be as unable to change the narrative as Bush was.

- The number of historical examples where handling a crisis “saved” a presidency is vanishingly small…

- On the other hand, there have been many presidencies derailed by crises, particularly economic downturns. In fact, you can make the case that every single president in the 20th century who stood for reelection and failed was done in by an economic crisis…

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jeffreyw  Mar 21, 2020 • 6:35:31am

re: #202 LadyBehir

I see the birds aren’t practicing social distancing. Beautiful pic, as always. One of the consistent bright spots of my day.

Thanks! But remember, the distance is measured in bird feet. 12 cm, where 2cm = 1bf, is sufficient.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 6:36:16am

re: #192 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In the UK, when Boris does his daily presser on the pandemic, there is a sign language person also on screen on the BBC.

I wonder how an ASL interpreter could do standing on stage with Trump, trying to put Trumpantics into ASL?

tenor.com

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2020 • 6:38:26am

re: #192 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In the UK, when Boris does his daily presser on the pandemic, there is a sign language person also on screen on the BBC.

I wonder how an ASL interpreter could do standing on stage with Trump, trying to put Trumpantics into ASL?

It would probably come out as something like Dr. Fauci’s facepalm: over and over……

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 6:42:24am

The NYT runs a daft opinion piece on Trump:

Coronavirus Gives Trump a Chance to Make Good on His Promises

His vision of how to wield American power has a lot going for it in a crisis like this one.

Trump’s vision????? His “vision” is a narcissistic view of hyper-nationalism. Trump’s “vision” is why WWI came about, not to mention many other horrors.

Then I looked at the author, Christopher Buskirk, the guy behind “American Greatness”. Gag.

The NYT once again mainstreams neo-fascism.

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:00:41am

re: #209 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The NYT runs a daft opinion piece on Trump:

Coronavirus Gives Trump a Chance to Make Good on His Promises

Trump’s vision????? His “vision” is a narcissistic view of hyper-nationalism. Trump’s “vision” is why WWI came about, not to mention many other horrors.

Then I looked at the author, Christopher Buskirk, the guy behind “American Greatness”. Gag.

The NYT once again mainstreams neo-fascism.

I read this piece, and Man, what a shit-hod of trite “CW” hackery: all about what Trump *should* do (but probably won’t), while -typically - dismissing as ‘in the past” all the stuff Trump *should have* done (but didn’t). Just more “Presidential pivot” fantasy-mongering, IMO: I’m not surprised they don’t have comments enabled…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:02:56am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:15:03am

I was at the store this morning and I had to repeatedly ask people to not stand so close to me. (Nicely, of course… I’m in Canada after all, eh?)

It pissed me the fuck off. There’s a reason only X number of people can go in at any time. Back the fuck off.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:25:58am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:30:17am

There was discussion upstairs that China most likely has manipulated its number, an assertion I pretty much agree with.

This is anecdotal, but….

Wuhan resident Zhang Ruyi said public trust in the government is at a low ebb, because of attempts by local health officials to cover up the emergence of the new pathogen in December, partly by suppressing information and partly by classifying the surge of new cases as “pneumonia.”

“It’s funny, that,” Zhang said, adding that he is highly skeptical of the claim. “They’re not just lying now; they’ve been lying since the start, by classifying [COVID-19] cases under other diseases.”

“There are 60 million people in Hubei, and they have all just been left to live or die without any help,” he said. “It’s basically down to a person’s immune system.”

“They are saying that only a few thousand died here in Wuhan, but does that sound right?”

But Wuhan residents and citizen journalists have previously reported that funeral homes in the city were working round the clock to cremate bodies during the height of the epidemic there, while advertising to recruit manual workers to collect dead bodies from people’s homes by night.

Social media reports posted by volunteers showed that more than 20 patients were admitted to Wuhan Tongji Hospital on Wednesday alone with symptoms resembling COVID-19.

“There were more than 20 cases at Tongji today,” one volunteer posted. “Wuhan hasn’t dared to report them, because [local officials] are under [political] pressure.”

Calls to the medical and political departments of Tongji Hospital rang unanswered on Thursday.

Wuhan resident Liu Songyang said the city is still under an information lockdown, with ever stricter controls on public speech.

rfa.org

It’s entirely possible that a second wave is beginning in China - and especially now that Beijing has pretty much ordered everyone, “OK you bums, back to work!” I guess we’ll have to wait and see exactly how good their earlier containment measures were…..and whether Beijing can pull off total information suppression.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:38:48am

People who deserve our love and and appreciation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:40:49am

re: #215 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Two 20-somethings have amassed 1,300 volunteers in 72 hours to deliver groceries and medicine to older New Yorkers and other vulnerable people. They call themselves Invisible Hands, and they provide human contact and comfort — at a safe distance.

Adam Smith would be proud…he never neglected the human factor in market relationships. And never used the term laissez-faire. That is something that his pseudo-followers ascribed to him.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:42:24am

re: #200 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Good morning to you!

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A Cranky One  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:45:53am

OT:

Brilliant
sadanduseless.com

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A Cranky One  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:47:11am

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:47:26am

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Okay, after mucking about 4chan to find out where they got that claim about cell phone accounts being dropped equalling a bunch of dead people, it lead to wingnut libertarian conspiracy theory site ZeroHedge.

Beijing’s Claim Of No New Infections Contradicts Reality On The Ground

It’s unreasonable to believe that they got to zero cases.
It’s also unreasonable to believe that millions of people are now dead.

The reality is somewhere in between. The number infected and the number dead are far higher than what they’re reporting to WHO. How to validate/verify?

Not through zerohedge, 4chan, or rando internet sites.

Are there mass graves - like what we see in Iran (and they’re also lowballing the cases/casualties)? Are there hospitals still overwhelmed? Or has China clamped down so hard that no news is getting out? Hard to say.

Then again, they’re also far more ruthless in quarantine efforts than anything contemplated in the West.

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A Cranky One  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:48:28am

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:54:54am

For fucking fuck’s sake. She wants a ‘date certain.’ Take a number of seats, Blondie.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:55:03am

re: #214 Dr Lizardo

The second wave.

And the third.

Those are inevitable as some countries reduce their restrictions or let down their guard. Countries like the US where those measures were haphazardly implemented become the reservoir for spread worldwide, overwhelming the resources locally, despite the measures in place.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:56:30am

Someone told Trump about a possible drug treatment.

It doesn’t save the day. It doesn’t stop the infections from spreading. It’s false hope.

Where are the fucking tests that Trump and Pence promised?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:57:03am

Joy Joy. This should be a shit show to watch.

TWIN FALLS TO CONSIDER DECLARING A STATE OF EMERGENCY IN RESPONSE TO COVID-19

The City of Twin Falls says they’ll consider declaring a State of Emergency in response to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic. During a meeting with the Twin Falls City Council on Monday, the Twin Falls City Manager Travis Rothweiler will ask the Twin Falls City Council to consider the declaration.

It needs to be done and done now. While we only have two (so far) confirmed cases the chances are better than ever of more occurring. Odds are the Magats will be out in force opposing this and demanding we wait until the Governor himself declares an emergency. If it does get declared these self same idiots will still be out in mass panic buying everything in sight.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 7:59:00am

re: #214 Dr Lizardo

It has always been highly unlikely that the Chinese gov’t was able to totally suppress transmission of SARS-Cov-2. Simply put, there are too many people to test.

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Skandal  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:02:14am

re: #224 lawhawk

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BigPapa  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:07:20am

re: #215 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Are they riffing off Adam Smith’s Invisible Hand?

Either way, good on them. People are going to show themselves in this thing and the heroes are already showing up to work.

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:08:01am

re: #224 lawhawk

Someone told Trump about a possible drug treatment.

It doesn’t save the day. It doesn’t stop the infections from spreading. It’s false hope.

Where are the fucking tests that Trump and Pence promised?

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He got that from Laura Ingraham’s Twitter feed.

Watch for him to mention a patient referred to as ‘Lazarus.’ Supposedly a hospital in NYC treated the guy with this drug combo and he recovered so quickly they already released him. That’s the bedtime story Ingraham tweeted.

Crock o’shit, that’s my bet.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:08:53am

Meanwhile, in Russia:

A reported sharp increase in pneumonia cases in the Russian capital and contradictory information around the issue is fuelling fears about the accuracy of official coronavirus data which remains much lower than many European countries.

Russia, which has a population of 144 million, has reported just 199 coronavirus cases and some doctors have questioned how far the official data reflects reality, given what they say is the patchy nature and quality of testing.

A sharp spike in pneumonia cases in Moscow, Russia’s biggest transport hub and a city with a population of around 13 million, has further raised doubts.

“I have a feeling they (the authorities) are lying to us,” said Anastasia Vasilyeva, head of Russia’s Doctor’s Alliance trade union.

reuters.com

I’d be willing to bet that the Kremlin is chalking up COVID-19 cases to “pneumonia” in order to mask the extent of the outbreak in the country.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:09:41am

US Intelligence was warning of a pandemic in January, and Trump did nothing. washingtonpost.com

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BigPapa  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:11:09am

I have no doubt authoritarian regimes are not on the up and up, just like our own. China will be somewhat full of shit but they are also going full bore on suppression. Russia will fuck this up and many will die.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:11:49am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, in Russia:

reuters.com

I’d be willing to bet that the Kremlin is chalking up COVID-19 cases to “pneumonia” in order to mask the extent of the outbreak in the country.

Pretty safe bet that these pneumonia cases were caused by covid-19. My nephew and his friends got pneumonia after a ski trip to Italy.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:12:56am

re: #229 makeitstop

I’m waiting for Trumpists to claim that there’s a vaccine and it’ll be called phalanx*.

All the while, the death toll climbs, the health care system collapses, and Trumpists think this is grand.

*phalanx is the placebo vaccine from World War Z; when people realized it was bogus, it set off the Great Panic.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:13:37am
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lizardofid  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:13:57am

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Can we clone a couple hundred copies of Rep. Porter?

We’ll take three copies of her for Nebraska.

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That’s interesting. Probably UV-C, (100nm to 280nm) I wonder what dose it takes. Those could be replicated fast.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:14:16am

re: #230 Dr Lizardo

The thing about chalking it up to other causes of death is that if you’re reporting the overall deaths in a year, you can identify excess deaths from this year compared to last - and that’s your covid19 effect.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:15:07am

I took a look at Ingraham’s twitter feed, and it’s crazy as fuck. That woman is straight up a danger to the public.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:16:31am

Trump’s shitheadery travels around the world:

Chloroquine Can Cause More Harm Than Good, Lagos Warns Residents

The warning is coming following the announcement of the United States President, Donald Trump, that the drug can now be used to treat Coronavirus.

The Lagos State Government has warned against the unprescribed use of Chloroquine, an antimalarial drug, as preventive or curative drug against the Coronavirus disease.

The warning is coming following the announcement of the United States President, Donald Trump, that the drug can now be used to treat Coronavirus.

The announcement has been countered by the country’s Food and Drug Administration, which said it had not approved the use of the drug for treatment against Coronavirus.

The Lagos State Commissioner for Health, Akin Abayomi, warned residents to avoid consumption of Chloroquine without prescription, noting that it could cause more harm than good to their health.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:18:36am

re: #237 lawhawk

The thing about chalking it up to other causes of death is that if you’re reporting the overall deaths in a year, you can identify excess deaths from this year compared to last - and that’s your covid19 effect.

It is all about maintaining an image. I can imagine that Russia is dismally equipped to deal with a major outbreak, both economically (with oil revenues plummeting) and in terms of medical infrastructure.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:18:51am

In the midst of a pandemic, the traitor Trump continues to destroy our defensive capabilities.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:20:07am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is all about maintaining an image. I can imagine that Russia is dismally equipped to deal with a major outbreak, both economically (with oil revenues plummeting) and in terms of medical infrastructure.

Yeah, this seems to be hitting Russia at the worst possible moment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:20:31am

re: #241 jaunte

Joseph Maguire, Trump’s recently ousted acting intelligence director, joins other former spy chiefs protesting the “unprecedented attack” represented by “the continuing dismissal of career intelligence professionals.”

We just saw a press conference in which Trump dismissively refers to the “Deep State Department”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:21:06am

re: #224 lawhawk

Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have well known ocular toxicity. Without proper use, we’re headed for a different tangential shit-show .

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:22:01am

Cheryl Rofer does an analysis of the modeling of the spread of Covid-19 in the US and Great Britain: balloon-juice.com. Its long, but with some tl:drs scattered throughout.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:22:15am

re: #244 Colère Tueur de Lapin

There’s no way anyone should take medical advice from Trump.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:23:22am

re: #246 lawhawk

There’s no way anyone should take medical advice from Trump.

You know that; I know that. There are people out there that are stupid enough to listen…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:27:05am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:28:34am

re: #244 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Chloroquine and hydroxy chloroquine have well known ocular toxicity. Without proper use, we’re headed for a different tangential shit-show .

Back when I was taking it as a malaria prophylactic we took one tablet a week.
Can’t remember if it was 250-500 mg

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:29:36am

re: #248 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I think you mean the brain cell would be embarrassed to be in the FoxNewz-casters head.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:30:20am

re: #235 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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“Read”, HaHa, you kill me

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:32:10am

re: #246 lawhawk

There’s no way anyone should take medical ANY advice from Trump.

None. Under any circumstances.

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BigPapa  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:33:43am

Just as a reminder for my other contacts

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:34:07am

Kentucky is very fortunate to not have an idiot like this running our state. We may have to close our border with Tennessee (joking, kind of).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:38:05am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:39:11am

re: #254 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Kentucky is very fortunate to not have an idiot like this running our state. We may have to close our border with Tennessee (joking, kind of).

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I believe that’s called culling the herd.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:40:21am

re: #254 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Kentucky is very fortunate to not have an idiot like this running our state. We may have to close our border with Tennessee (joking, kind of).

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Pray for it to go away? Didn’t your god make this? Didn’t your intelligent designer make it act and do what it does? Why are you questioning your god? I thought you said your god was infallible. Do you believe your god was wrong to create and let this loose on us and you have to set him straight with prayer?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:41:17am

re: #257 Eventual Carrion

Pray for it to go away? Didn’t your god make this? Didn’t your intelligent designer make it act and do what it does? Why are you questioning your god? I thought you said your god was infallible. Do you believe your god was wrong to create and let this loose on us and you have to set him straight with prayer?

It’s a test of faith. //

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:41:57am

As much as I hate seeing his mug and listening to his whine, I’m almost tempted to start watching Trump’s COVID briefings for the moment he totally says ‘fuck it’ and kicks over the podium and trashes the briefing room.

It’s coming.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:42:21am

Playing to their type, National Racists Online come to the support of Trump in regards to his pushing a couple of anti-virals as therapies for Covid-19.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:42:47am

Oh yeah.
Be careful on the roads and highways. DOT has waived work hour limits for truck drivers moving essential loads. (which could be damn near anything)
My brother told me he intended to refuse to violate time limits if directed to by his employer.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:44:38am

re: #258 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It’s a test of faith. //

F-

You don’t just fail, you die (or cause someone else’s death).

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lizardofid  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:45:09am

re: #249 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Back when I was taking it as a malaria prophylactic we took one tablet a week.
Can’t remember if it was 250-500 mg

I wonder if it’s being studied as a possible covid-19 prophylactic, like for high risks folks, like healthcare workers?

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:45:41am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:47:52am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Oh yeah.
Be careful on the roads and highways. DOT has waived work hour limits for truck drivers moving essential loads. (which could be damn near anything)
My brother told me he intended to refuse to violate time limits if directed to by his employer.

That seems counter-productive. The last thing we need is accidents on the highway because of tired truckers. Hospitals are not the place to be now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:49:25am

re: #263 lizardofid

I wonder if it’s being studied as a possible covid-19 prophylactic, like for high risks folks, like healthcare workers?

Based on the statements from the professionals thus far, it seems that it is being looked at for therapeutic use, not prophylactic

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:49:44am
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BigPapa  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:50:07am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Oh yeah.
Be careful on the roads and highways. DOT has waived work hour limits for truck drivers moving essential loads. (which could be damn near anything)
My brother told me he intended to refuse to violate time limits if directed to by his employer.

This may sound dumb, but why not have two drivers in a cab driving shifts? The truck could run non-except for fuel and potty breaks.

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ericblair  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:50:36am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is all about maintaining an image. I can imagine that Russia is dismally equipped to deal with a major outbreak, both economically (with oil revenues plummeting) and in terms of medical infrastructure.

Looks like authoritarian coverup: a good article is here, Russia Says It Has Very Few Coronavirus Cases. The Numbers Don’t Tell the Full Story.

The Russian Ministry of Health said (a few days ago) that they’ve run 104 000 tests, and gotten 80-some positive cases. 99.9% negative rate. Either Russian doctors are the stupidest people in the world or there’s something very wrong.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:51:15am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Oh yeah.
Be careful on the roads and highways. DOT has waived work hour limits for truck drivers moving essential loads. (which could be damn near anything)
My brother told me he intended to refuse to violate time limits if directed to by his employer.

Use the crisis to bust unions and further erode workers’ rights…good move.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:52:09am

re: #269 ericblair

Looks like authoritarian coverup: a good article is here, Russia Says It Has Very Few Coronavirus Cases. The Numbers Don’t Tell the Full Story.

The Russian Ministry of Health said (a few days ago) that they’ve run 104 000 tests, and gotten 80-some positive cases. 99.9% negative rate. Either Russian doctors are the stupidest people in the world or there’s something very wrong.

Or somebody is rewriting their reports…

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retired cynic  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:52:21am

re: #268 BigPapa

This may sound dumb, but why not have two drivers in a cab driving shifts? The truck could run non-except for fuel and potty breaks.

I won’t say most, but many of them do. “Son” an ex-over the road trucker.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:52:48am

re: #263 lizardofid

I wonder if it’s being studied as a possible covid-19 prophylactic, like for high risks folks, like healthcare workers?

re: #266 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Based on the statements from the professionals thus far, it seems that it is being looked at for therapeutic use, not prophylactic

Also, use as a prophylactic for large portions of the population would be a problem, as in the past blood donations were not permitted for a lengthy period after use

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:53:10am

re: #247 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You know that; I know that. There are people out there that are stupid enough to listen…

Or desperate enough to grab at straws.

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:55:35am

This is how it’s done, Trump.

Cuomo is putting in work. I’m not even a fan, but he’s winning me over.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:56:39am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2020 • 8:57:35am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:00:58am
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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:00:59am
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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:01:40am

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

Rod Serling said it best - perhaps one of the finest summations of the dark side of human nature:

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Back then people could admit their error and apologize. That’s the most amazing thing about that episode now.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:02:00am

re: #275 makeitstop

This is how it’s done, Trump.

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Cuomo is putting in work. I’m not even a fan, but he’s winning me over.

Competence is in short supply. It’s appreciated that much more no matter who it’s from.

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:02:50am

re: #279 Disloyal Archangel

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The references to ‘President Cuomo’ are showing up all over the place. Here’s hoping Trump sees every single on of them.

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stpaulbear  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:06:43am

re: #275 makeitstop

This is how it’s done, Trump.

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Cuomo is putting in work. I’m not even a fan, but he’s winning me over.

Trump thinks.”Good. I can go back to watching more TV.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:08:26am
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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:10:47am

re: #283 stpaulbear

Trump thinks.”Good. I can go back to watching more TV.”

The problem with that is Cuomo is stealing the show, showing what leadership looks like. Spanky ain’t gonna like it, not one bit.

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:10:59am

re: #264 jaunte

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Also: Azythromycin?
We’ve used the prepackaged “Z-Pack” of this stuff for various things (minor) over the years, and my understanding is that this is close to a generic all-purpose antibiotic: how is this going to be of use against a Coronavirus?

[Insert IANAD disclaimer here]

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:11:29am

re: #285 makeitstop

The problem with that is Cuomo is stealing the show, showing what leadership looks like. Spanky ain’t gonna like it, not one bit.

No he isn’t. New York (and California) will be punished.

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BigPapa  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:12:56am

In treacherous times, the heros and monsters all show themselves.

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stpaulbear  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:13:05am

re: #284 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Every John Waters movie I’ve ever seen, I’ve seen in that theater.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:13:05am

I was trying to hook up my Ring doorbell to my old NetGear modem. Long story short the modem was not fast enough for the Ring doorbell. At least I know my old modem still works and I will keep it just in case.

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:15:30am

re: #287 Skip Intro

No he isn’t. New York (and California) will be punished.

Whatever, man. Cuomo’s getting shit done. Trump’s soiling his fucking diapers.

And people see it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:15:54am

Instacart now booked solid here for the next 4 weeks! Well guess I’ll try to do a milk run at the 7-11 or bodegas…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:15:54am

re: #221 A Cranky One

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Yeah, I wish I could at least have one of those Fury Road bad guy vehicles.

Well, if I get real industrious with a cutting torch…………Nah, better to uphold civilization for a while anyway.

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:16:30am

re: #276 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Maybe Andy ought to borrow a page from the Trump playbook re those overpriced masks: Order them at the gouge price, then stiff the supplier on the payment and make them sue NYS for the balance (at 15 cents on the dollar)….

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:16:39am

re: #291 makeitstop

Whatever, man. Cuomo’s getting shit done. Trump’s soling his fucking diapers.

And people see it.

“No he isn’t” referred to Trump not liking what Cuomo is doing.

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:17:33am

re: #295 Skip Intro

“No he isn’t” referred to Trump not liking what Cuomo is doing.

Ah. My bad. Maybe another cup of coffee will get me up to speed here. :)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:19:03am

re: #151 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I am he! Definitive proof:

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Following YNTBE

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:19:56am
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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:21:26am

Competence, comfort, encouragement, gratitude. Everything Trump completely lacks.

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lizardofid  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:27:38am

re: #273 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Also, use as a prophylactic for large portions of the population would be a problem, as in the past blood donations were not permitted for a lengthy period after use

Ah, ok, understood. I just worry so for the doctors and nurses that are in constant contact.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:29:24am
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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:30:10am
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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:34:27am
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Belafon  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:39:27am

re: #276 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:41:20am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:42:42am

re: #304 Belafon

Aren’t they being ordered from overseas? If so, what options are there to avoid price gouging?

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:45:02am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:46:49am

re: #305 jaunte

Appalling beyond words. This should be treated as a war crime if we actually take this action. Trump has converted us to a rogue nation with no morals or ethics. However, let’s remember that Trump himself, for all his other flaws, is not interested in foreign ventures, except for those that involve constructing hotels adorned by his name.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:47:27am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:48:27am

re: #309 Belafon

Thanks. You made me smile. :)

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:49:23am

re: #306 Hecuba’s daughter

Aren’t they being ordered from overseas? If so, what options are there to avoid price gouging?

In one case, the government could be coordinated local manufacturing. In another they could be ordering a larger amount, which should make them cheaper. And they could also be getting the governments where the companies are to lower prices.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:51:08am

I turned on MSNBC and saw that there’s another misinformation conference today in the WH, so I just as quickly turned it off.

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BigPapa  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:51:17am

OK, had my little morning Big Guy Cry but the Wife Unit soothed me, now it’s off to coffee.

Was washing my cell phone with hot soap and water and it’s killed. Whoops. It sure is fucking clean though.

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A Cranky One  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:51:19am

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:51:21am
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Belafon  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:52:21am

re: #315 jaunte

[Embedded content]

And we note how much safer that has made America.

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:54:38am

re: #316 Belafon

And we note how much safer that has made America.

And likely our Idiot-in-Chief will pronounce that “China is paying the tariffs”, and that they deserve it for launching the virus…..

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2020 • 9:54:43am

re: #279 Disloyal Archangel

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:07:53am
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bratwurst  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:08:39am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:10:17am

A friend of mine who has always been a strong Trumper just messaged me to say how Trumps “rose colored glasses” press conferences were starting to get really fucking annoying.

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Mescalero09  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:13:00am

Looks like the Office Of Stupidity and Delusion is broadcasting

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:13:04am

So the Republicans in the Senate are being recklessly parsimonious in the rescue-stimulus bill.

Quite a contrast to the UK, where the official Conservative party, in control, said yesterday that they did not have an upper limit in how much they are willing to spend to rescue the UK. Really, the Chancellor of the Exchequer said he didn’t have an upper limit. They are going to spend whatever it takes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:13:48am

re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg

A friend of mine who has always been a strong Trumper just messaged me to say how Trumps “rose colored glasses” press conferences were starting to get really fucking annoying.

May this new outlook sweep across the Trumpster community and force them to take off their glasses permanently and see this con man for who he really is! And may they also see the entire GOP in the same light!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:16:39am

re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg

A friend of mine who has always been a strong Trumper just messaged me to say how Trumps “rose colored glasses” press conferences were starting to get really fucking annoying.

Consider responding that they aren’t just annoying but grotesquely irresponsible and deadly. He’s pivoted from denial to false hope and both are causing people to downplay the risk and continue spreading the disease.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:18:40am

::: enjoying the traditional PBS Saturday :::
whyy.org

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Citizen K  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:19:21am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:20:53am

re: #327 Citizen K

Great Victory? Oh yes. Joe Biden will be the next president of the USA.

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:21:32am

re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg

A friend of mine who has always been a strong Trumper just messaged me to say how Trumps “rose colored glasses” press conferences were starting to get really fucking annoying.

That vibe is definitely out there. He’s hurting himself by trying to prove he’s the Greatest Expert on Everything. And he doesn’t even realize it.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:22:20am
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bratwurst  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:23:31am

How many times has Pence said the word “president” in this meaningless prattle he’s presently delivering?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:23:47am

re: #305 jaunte

This is crazy: Pompeo and Grenell reportedly arguing that coronavirus has created window of opportunity for direct strike on a weak and divided Iran.

Remember that in the American Civil War, more troops died from disease than from battle…

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Charmingly Persistent  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:24:38am

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A Cranky One  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:25:17am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:26:34am

re: #323 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the Republicans in the Senate are being recklessly parsimonious in the rescue-stimulus bill.

Quite a contrast to the UK, where the official Conservative party, in control, said yesterday that they did not have an upper limit in how much they are willing to spend to rescue the UK. Really, the Chancellor of the Exchequer said he didn’t have an upper limit. They are going to spend whatever it takes.

because they know that between Brexit and Corona, the UK economy could really hit the tipping point

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bratwurst  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:27:18am

At least Pence was apparently paying attention to movies and TV shows where politicians have to speak to the public during times of crisis.

It’s very clear Trump literally has no idea of what leadership looks like.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:28:53am

re: #333 Charmingly Persistent

Electing Democrats clearly saves lives! At least temporarily. Think of what the numbers would have been if Bevin managed to win.

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:29:45am

re: #336 bratwurst

At least Pence was apparently paying attention to movies and TV shows where politicians have to speak to the public during times of crisis.

It’s very clear Trump literally has no idea of what leadership looks like.

And it’s pretty sad when the President can get shown up (even for just the optics) by the likes of Mike Pence (R-Uninspiring)….

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:32:16am

re: #333 Charmingly Persistent

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:33:15am

Italy’s daily death toll: 793, a new record.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:34:42am

re: #340 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Italy’s daily death toll: 793, a new record.

Germany nearly 22K cases with 77 fatalities

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plansbandc  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:35:04am

I don’t even want to read about what he’s saying at this point. Our Governor and our Mayor will give us the latest info.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:38:15am
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Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:39:24am

re: #343 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

Don’t forget slapping your own ass and then reporting it to “HR.”

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:40:37am

re: #344 Targetpractice

Don’t forget slapping your own ass and then reporting it to “HR.”

/

set out a box of bagels and eat them all

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:41:50am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:42:29am

re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

set out a box of bagels and eat them all

Go ahead. Microwave fish in the “break” room.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:43:09am

re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

set out a box of bagels and eat them all

Announcement: Donuts in the break room!

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Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:43:15am

re: #347 Barefoot Grin

Go ahead. Microwave fish in the “break” room.

Play a browser game while periodically looking around in a paranoid manner.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:43:38am

re: #341 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany nearly 22K cases with 77 fatalities

Yep. And German population is even older than Italy. Of course, out of their 21,854 cases, only 209 have recovered to date. But so far, it is very instructive that they have held mortality to such a low rate (still at least 3 x higher than seasonal flu).

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Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:43:54am

re: #346 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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I can’t see how that could ever be abused by this administration.

////////

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:48:36am

re: #283 stpaulbear

Trump thinks.”Good. I can go back to watching more TV.”

And i think, good. Don’t touch anything

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:50:02am

These RWNJ’s are gonna get people killed. This story is from a few days back:

Brazil confirmed its first coronavirus-related death on Tuesday, as President Jair Bolsonaro continued to deride efforts to mitigate the outbreak as “hysteria.”

A 62-year-old man, who tested positive for the virus, died on Monday four days after being admitted to a hospital in Sao Paulo, officials said. The man, who suffered from hypertension and diabetes, caught the virus domestically, they said, suggesting community transmission of the virus in the South American nation.

After announcing its first case on February 26, infection numbers have risen to 291. The figure is expected to multiply in the coming days, but Brazilians continue to get mixed messages from the top.

In an interview on Sunday with CNN affiliate CNN Brasil, Bolsonaro called preventive measures, such as banning mass events, “hysteria,” and said that the economy came first. “When you ban football and other things, you fall into hysteria. Banning this and that isn’t going to contain the spread,” he said.

“We should take steps, the virus could turn into a fairly serious issue. But the economy has to function because we can’t have a wave of unemployment,” he added.

Hours before, Bolsonaro appeared to shrug off advice from his medical team to self-isolate after several members of his delegation to Florida tested positive for the virus. He instead joined a rally of supporters at a pro-government demonstration, shaking hands, bumping fists and slapping the backs of marchers who turned out to show their support for him amid a political spat with Congress.

He had initially urged supporters to call off the march due to coronavirus fears.

cnnphilippines.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:50:33am

re: #257 Eventual Carrion

Pray for it to go away? Didn’t your god make this? Didn’t your intelligent designer make it act and do what it does? Why are you questioning your god? I thought you said your god was infallible. Do you believe your god was wrong to create and let this loose on us and you have to set him straight with prayer?

They don’t want it to go away. They’re praying that it spares them while it kills and maims the liberals, gays, brown people, etc. etc. Remember, they’re the select and this is God’s plague on those who don’t properly honor and obey him. (And watch for them to start putting lamb’s blood over their doorways, while some will express reservations about this “Jewish ritual”.)

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Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:50:41am

Yes, yes, OH ZOD YES!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:51:56am

re: #353 Dr Lizardo

These RWNJ’s are gonna get people killed. This story is from a few days back:

cnnphilippines.com

Coup in Brazil, three, two……

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:55:52am

How do we know Trump’s done gone and fucked up testing?

Canada has run more tests than the US has. Pence is lying if he claims 400k tests were done, when every other reporting outlet indicates 1/4 that figure, and of the 100k tests, roughly 20% are infected. NY now tops 10k cases alone, and they’ve run about 40% of the tests in the country (25% positive rate).

States are rationing the tests because they don’t have enough. They can’t do the necessary quarantining because they can’t test those around the people who are sick, to try and nip this in the bud. Instead, states are going to start treating cases as presumptive covid19 if they show the symptoms so they can avoid running out of tests elsewhere.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:55:57am

re: #350 Hecuba’s daughter

Yep. And German population is even older than Italy. Of course, out of their 21,854 cases, only 209 have recovered to date. But so far, it is very instructive that they have held mortality to such a low rate (still at least 3 x higher than seasonal flu).

a lot of testing

restrictions in place since start of week

no lockdown, but schools, public offices & facilities closed, non-essential shops as well, restaurants only carry-out or delivery

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Danack  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:57:17am

NHS absorbing most private hospitals in the UK

The NHS has struck a deal with private hospitals to acquire thousands of extra beds, ventilators and medical staff to fight the coronavirus outbreak.

An extra 8,000 hospital beds across England, nearly 1,200 ventilators and almost 20,000 fully qualified staff will be available from next week.

Under the terms of the deal, the private sector will be reimbursed at cost, meaning no profit will be made for doing so.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:58:37am
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:59:02am

I simply adore this sort of thing,.

Steve Vai’s Wild Guitar Collection

Steve Vai’s Wild Guitar Collection | Reverb

“The ham is cookin’, brotha”

ha

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2020 • 10:59:46am
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Belafon  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:00:31am
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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:01:22am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:01:40am

re: #363 Belafon

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Next he’ll be complaining about tongue depressors being thrown out after use. “Waste! Waste!”
///

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:02:20am

I’m reading the tweets coming out about the presser, and he’s a fucking idiot:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:02:38am

re: #364 jaunte

Pence just told people to go fish through their sheds for masks and then drive them to their local hospital.

Hmm, that doesn’t sound terrible at all. Turning centers already burdened with patient care into high-traffic collection points for random garage gear.

And if you can’t pay for treatment, just bring a chicken…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:06:08am

re: #355 Targetpractice

Yes, yes, OH ZOD YES!

[Embedded content]

Yep.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:06:53am

re: #257 Eventual Carrion

Pray for it to go away? Didn’t your god make this? Didn’t your intelligent designer make it act and do what it does? Why are you questioning your god? I thought you said your god was infallible. Do you believe your god was wrong to create and let this loose on us and you have to set him straight with prayer?

These religious right racist KKKraKKKers believe The Big G sent this to kill colored people and queers. THey’re going to get the shock of their lives when they start dropping like flies.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:08:12am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:08:18am

re: #367 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And if you can’t pay for treatment, just bring a chicken…

2+ months into this and we are being treated a country’s executive (and assistant) unwilling to address a definite shortage in testing (either kits (denied) or ability to test) while they push various vaporware panacea “cures” and ask for the equivalent of a WW2 scrap drive to cover shortages of medical equipment. At the same time they refuse to activate powers they have to convert industry towards production of needed supplies and to coordinate state activities as well.

(Per Trump supporters losing their rose-colored glasses I think events going forward are going to do nothing but erode his support. He is at peak now - practically nothing he does will convert someone to vote for him that otherwise would vote for Biden. The reverse is however not true, Trump voters might convert to Biden - perhaps not in huge numbers, but probably enough to ensure he loses. And hopefully that brings the Democrats more Senate seats as well.)

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:08:24am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:09:35am

re: #372 jaunte

After the Media Wars all news was Fox News.
///

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Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:10:03am

re: #370 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Again, as noted yesterday, this is purely about appeasing his ego. He can’t run his Klan rallies or go golfing, so this is the only way to get the sort of attention he craves. In his mind, even bad attention is still attention when the alternative is sitting in his office and doing actual work.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:10:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:10:21am

re: #371 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

2+ months into this and we are being treated a country’s executive (and assistant) unwilling to address a definite shortage in testing (either kits (denied) or ability to test) while they push various vaporware panacea “cures” and ask for the equivalent of a WW2 scrap drive to cover shortages of medical equipment.

Like the Germans collecting winter clothing to send to the Eastern Front…

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:10:47am
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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:11:03am

re: #367 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:12:06am

re: #257 Eventual Carrion

God didn’t do it, the devil did.
//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:12:57am

re: #379 Ace Rothstein

God didn’t do it, the devil did.
//

Trump didn’t do it, Obama did.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:13:05am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:15:15am

re: #284 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Clicky

The lights are dark in Cleveland Park where fans once flocked to a beloved movie palace.

The historic Uptown Theater is closing for good on Connecticut Ave. in Northwest D.C.

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Targetpractice  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:15:18am

Also, you have to consider that Trump sees these daily briefings as the only way he’s going to get any face time for awhile in this election season. Yeah, his campaign will run ads, but he has no rallies and no public events where he can glad hand the rubes. He’s effectively isolated from the public unless he commandeers these briefings.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2020 • 11:53:48am

re: #362 Belafon

Holy cow! Even Lubbock suspended utility cut-offs.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2020 • 12:38:25pm

re: #379 Ace Rothstein

God didn’t do it, the devil did.
//

Of course, and their god was powerless to stop him. Their god is a fucking wimp.


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